Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #772: The Great UFO Psyop With Ryder Lee

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Starting point is 00:02:28 Now he's here to talk a little UFO with us. Please welcome, independent researcher. Rider Lee, Rider, how are you? What's up, Sam? Thanks so much for having me. How's it going next year. Brother I couldn't be happier with that you're back on with that t-shirt. That shirt, that button up is awesome. I'm in my wacky shirt phase.

Starting point is 00:02:51 Like I just get a bunch of wacky shirts now. How old are you, Ryder, may I ask? 30. Okay, you're still young for a little young. Maybe you're an old soul. And that's why you're going with with with with with with with with with with with with with with the wacking with the wacking with the wacking with the wacking the wacking the wacking. the wacking. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a little little little little little little little little little little little little little little young, that's a little, that's a little, that's, that's, that's, that's a little, that's a little, that's a little, that's a little, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's a little, that's a little, that's a little, that's a little, that's a little, that's a little. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a little little little little, a little, that's a little, that's why you're going with the wacky shirts, but it's a great shirt and I feel like you dressed up for us, so thank you. Ryder, for those who may not be familiar with your last couple of appearances, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you? You can find me on Rays by Giants on YouTube and Indian All Podcasts platforms. I basically just host a platform for people to come on and talk. UFOs, Spiritual, sp spirituality, sp spirituality, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, that, that, that, that, thi. Thank thi, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. Thank, thi. And thi. And that, that, that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. And that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. that's thria. Right, thii. Right, thi. Right, thi. Right, thi. Right, thi platform for people to come on and talk UFO spirituality really but I think that it's a really solid look and a in a

Starting point is 00:03:34 foundational look at some of the more it's like a grounded view. I kind of tend to think an alternative look to the alternative community is what I've been labeling at now. An alt look to the alt look. Yeah, that's right. Double double baby. Yeah, is that like a gay, gay person, which is a straight person? It could be. Yeah, I appreciate that.

Starting point is 00:03:56 So real quick, how did your doc do that you did? Did you get a lot of love for it? Yes, we did. It has been a very successful Amazon has actually been pushing it out on the new releases tab on Amazon Prime. It has done very well and succeeded expectations, yes. Well, I'm happy for you. I love when anybody has a vision and they work towards it and they achieve their goals. And so it's great to see you do that. And you know, Ryder, I mean, I think the world of you, I always enjoy having an interview. And I just love that the internet now has allowed people

Starting point is 00:04:33 to become their own, their own studio. Their own studio. They don't need, we don't need to pitch our ideas of somebody just out of school that doesn't have the same vision as we do. We can go out there where we can create our own thing. The docs are so amazing now and yours is one of them. So I'm super happy for you and congratulations on that. Where do you want to start brother on today's episode? Well, I'd really like to start with Kenneth Arnold here and the UFO topic and yeah, thank you for I appreciate that a lot Sam because we were 100% independent. We did it all on our own very low budget. So it's been an amazing success and we're actually working on a second one right now that has a lot to do with

Starting point is 00:05:19 M. K. Ultra Stanley Kubrick the Shining and infiltration of these intelligence organizations into media and Hollywood and serial killers and we're just kind of going all over the place. These are a few of my favorite things. It's going to be really awesome. We're actually working on it right now. But for today's topic I really want to focus on Kenneth. Hold real quick before we get into that because I do want, I do want to go where you want to go, but I want to ask you, based on your research, is everything an intelligence trick?

Starting point is 00:05:56 It really seems like it, really whatever you dive deep into really any topic, you uncover things that are very suspicious and leads almost directly to the intelligence community and the military. So it's like, wow, yeah, once you take a really solid good look at a lot of different topics like we're going to be looking at today with the UFO and the extraterrestrial phenomenon. We see the intelligence community to the CIA, the NSA, Air Force special investigations, putting out several deception operations toward UFOs and extraterrestrial. It's really where the myth and how this whole ball starts rolling on these UFO and extraterrestrial sightings.

Starting point is 00:06:43 It comes from the NSA and the Air Force. And with Kenneth Arnold, it's, see a lot of people like to cite Kenneth Arnold as being the first in modern times to see a UFO, but many use his statements not really knowing what he said exactly, and really where the entire modern myth starts is with Kenneth Arnold in 1947. Now that's not where the phenomenon starts right, it tracks back way way back some say thousands of years but they weren't called UFOs or flying saucers back then. They were called shields, pillars, flying chariots. And I'm just saying that because I realized that the history of this stuff,

Starting point is 00:07:25 and just because I don't mention it, doesn't mean that I don't know about it. And you always have that one person in the comment section, you guys know, referencing the Vedas or the Book of Ezekiel to reinforce their preconceived notions about UFOs and extra trash trails. And they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would they would would they would be right in saying that some of the phenomenon goes back farther than 1947, which it does, but where we're going to be focusing on here today is modern sightings and how the term flying saucer came to be because they weren't called flying saucers before

Starting point is 00:07:56 Kenneth Arnold in 1947. And Kenneth Arnold really kicked off this whole term flying saucers. So for people that aren't familiar with Kenneth Arnold, he was a very well-respected aviator, a businessman, and later on he became a politician, he was the first in modern times to witness and report a strange craft in the sky at approximately 3 p.m., June 24th, 1947.

Starting point is 00:08:24 Kenneth Arnold was piloting his A2 plane in the skies near Mount Rainier, Washington, searching for missing marine aircraft and claimed to have witnessed a string of objects, a string of nine objects to be more specific at around 10,000 feet. They flew at amazing speeds of what Arnold estimated at 1,500 miles per hour. Now, after witnessing these craft, he landed his plane in Yakima, Washington. He told his friend Al Baxter about the siding. Arnold then shared his story with other pilots

Starting point is 00:08:56 that had said maybe that what he had saw were military missiles or military aircraft. And that's a pretty good explanation because when you look at Arnold's depictions of the craft it looks similar to an B-2 stealth bomber. But Arnold not being convinced by the explanations from other people and his other friends about what he saw, the next day he walked into a local news station and told a story to a gentleman named Nolan Schiff. Now, Nolan published a short article with the headline that said something like impossible, but maybe seeing is believing. And that story was then forwarded to the Associated Press for Worldwide Distribution. And boom, the term Flying Saucer was born. Now, it's important in the beginning to realize that Kenneth Arnold was very reserved about his encounter with the craft and the craft that he witnessed, but as the story progressed and public interest became very popular, it turns into a gigantic media frenzy. Now, when you look at Arnold's testimony, which he did a lot of interviews and radio shows,

Starting point is 00:10:06 he never used the term flying saucer to describe the shape of the craft. He said that it was bat-shaped, crescent-shaped, boomerang-shaped, with wings, and he often said that his comments on the sightings of these craft were misunderstood. And later on, worked hard up into the end of his life in 1984 to combat the entire flying saucer narrative. So there were sketches that Kenneth drew to describe what he saw, and it doesn't really even come close to the commonly accepted version of what UFOs are. And later on in 1960, an artist's rendition of what Arnold saw came out and doesn't look

Starting point is 00:10:46 anything like a flying saucer. But we're going to circle back to that here in a few minutes. So now what it happened was Nolan Skiff, the journalist that he went to, published that Arnold's story in the newspaper and said that Arnold cited nine saucer-like aircraft. And what it happened was is the media took nine saucer-like aircraft. And what it happened was is the media took the saucer-like aircraft and ran with it and created a bunch of different headlines saying saucer-shaped craft were spotted when Arnold literally never referred to the shape of the craft as salser in shape. It was bad-shaped. Do you think that was done on purpose? Do you think that was done as kind of this, this kind of siop to get people to believe in whatever

Starting point is 00:11:34 they want us to believe about aliens and stuff? It's possible, but then also when you look at like headlines and stuff like that, like what's the more catch-yer headline? Man spots flying saucers in the sky or man spots strange weird craft in the sky, you know? Yeah. So Johnny was all about a click bait when he worked at a newspaper, the things he would write were just unbelievably. Of course. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so an interview with Arnold by the United Press he said that he was very adamant in what they look like he would

Starting point is 00:12:13 say that they were shaped like a pie plate or a pie pan he said they were half moon shaped, bat shape that he said that they were oval in the front and convex in the back. So in 1960 Arnold Arnold finally came out with a drawing of the craft he saw, and it's a bat-shaped, circular and winged in the back, exactly like what he was trying to describe. And you would think with Arnold coming out with the drawing of the craft that would stop all the flying saucer talk, but it didn't. That would, because that was 13 years later, after his initial citing that this artist's rendition of the craft came out.

Starting point is 00:12:53 The flying saucer narrative had become such a huge topic, and others reporting, seeing flying saucers, that it wasn't, there wasn't any correcting it at that point. So the narrative has been spun in the flying saucer direction at this point. So it became such a frenzy and media topic with everyone reporting Strangecraft and there's actually a quote directly from Arnold that says which is in relation to what everybody else was claiming to see during that time. He said what other eyewitnesses are reporting are something else completely different or it's nothing at all.

Starting point is 00:13:32 So even Arnold, we're telling people back in the late 40s that they're just making shut up, and another quote from Arnold states that he feels that the, um, it should be labeled something different than a flying saucer. It should be a strange type of aircraft instead of flying saucers. So on April 7th, 1950, Arnold really spills the beans on the flying saucer misrepresentation and misquote. Arnold said that the objects that he witnessed fluttered like they were boats on really rough water. And this next part is a very important part. He said that when they flew, they flew like a saucer thrown across the water. In all the newspapers and all the reporters misunderstood and

Starting point is 00:14:24 misquoted him saying that the shape of the craft was saucer in shape. When Arnold said that they flew like saucers thrown across water, they misquoted him. The craft was saying that the craft was flew like it was saucer skipping across water and they misquoted that as seen that the shape of the craft was saucer in shape, right? And it's probably the biggest misquote of all time. What do you think he met by that on how it moved? That it like fluttered, that it moved like it was moving on like rough water, like it was going, it was of bouncing like up and down as it went kind of kind of like a bird that's crazy yeah now and here's the most interesting part of this whole thing I

Starting point is 00:15:16 think really answers your question Sam about if this was like a an operation to get people thinking about something that it really wasn't. Now, when you get into the term, and this is very perplexing for a lot of people, and a lot of people don't even really know about this, and when they find out about it, they don't really even know what to think. So when you get into the term of what a flying saucer actually was before it was associated as a UFO, flying saucer actually was before it was associated as a UFO. Flying Saucers was a sport that redated Arnold's sightings by over 60 years, which was called trap shooting, which was started in the late 1800s as a way to train hunters and shooters in which they would release live birds from a cage.

Starting point is 00:16:05 I know that you guys have all seen that where they would, before they used the clay disc, the clay disc, it was live birds and they would shoot at the birds for like target practice. And then later that was changed to these little clay flat disk. And those little clay flat discs were named flyingucers by a man named Charles Lewitsky in 1880. And he dubbed these little clay flying disc Flying Saucers, right? So by the early 1900s flying saucers, which are now clay pigeons have become a very popular sport. There were competitions, there were championships, and there was newspaper articles that said that the skies of North America were covered in flying saucers flying through the

Starting point is 00:16:51 air and exploding and falling to the ground, which is an exact replica of the phrases that everyone thought several decades later with Kenneth Arnold sightings in the Roswell incident and in the sightings in the 50s, right? It's more than just a coincidence. So by the 20th century, the name Flying Salser had become a commonplace name being used for over two decades. The sport of flying saucers had become so popular that it was adopted by the Olympics in 1916. The number of participants in the sport of flying saucers was around 600,000 people in the U.S. They all knew the term flying saucers and all these little clay pigeons flying saucers.

Starting point is 00:17:35 The military even adopted it to train their soldiers in target practice in the beginning of World War II. So you got to put a two and two together there. And as well trapshooting these little flying saucers really started to die off with people losing interest. So and it's also, then you start to understand the military's role in so much of this because who begins pushing the term out. Exactly. So we have clay pigeons being called flying saucer since 1880, hundreds and thousands of

Starting point is 00:18:17 people being familiar with the term. The military adopting the term in practice in the early 40s during World War II. And two years after the war ended, we get the term flying saucer, but under a different context. Right? And I just want to give a shot out really quick to one of my friends, Chris Albeck, that has really documented all of this in his book, Saucers. You can get it on Amazon Prime. He's laid all this out in great detail. I've had him on my show a couple a the the the the the the the the the the the the war a the war a the war a th the war a the war a th. A th. A thoing thoing thoing tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. tie. tie. tie. tie. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. te. te. te it on Amazon Prime. He's laid all this out in great detail. I've had him on my show a couple of times. So you're basically saying this has been like kind of a siop by the military? I think it's been a siop from the very jump.

Starting point is 00:19:00 So really what we have here is that the entire subject of UFOlogy is based on the fallacy And UFOlogy has been using the shape of a round disc when it was never described by Arnold as a disc or a flying saucer So we've literally had the shape of the craft wrong this entire time for 77 years. We've essentially been telling and regurgitating a misrepresentation in a misquote of what Arnold said that he saw and out of Arnold's own words what other claim what other people were claiming to us all at the time wasn't the same or nothing at all right so it's the flying saucer mythology is essentially a lie, a fallacy, a misnomer, and a misrepresented quote from newspaper reporters, journalists and researchers and still the most popular symbol of ufology to this very day even

Starting point is 00:19:50 though it's not called flying saucers anymore flying saucers are the basis and the root of modern uphology every conference every UFO documentary YouTube thumbneels and I do it to use the saucer art when it's a lie. That's never what they look like. Now, you'll find quotes of Arnold saying that the craft was bat-shaped, boomerang-shaped, or shaped like a pie pan. Never did you say that the shape of the craft was a saucer. Hey guys, real quick.

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Starting point is 00:22:50 When everything came out, did he ever like, are you it? Just try to prove it that that's not what he saw or did he just Yeah. Yeah, that's why you just. I know. But like, how much? Did he just fucking tell him? Did he fight it?

Starting point is 00:23:05 Did he, that's what I'm trying to ask, like, how much did he grow into proving that that's not what he saw? Because obviously, it still fell through. Yeah, I think that he tried quite a bit, but with the media and the newspaper and other people reporting the same things as him calling them............ their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theateateate. theate. thi. thi. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that, I, I, I, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I. I's. I's. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's, that's, that's, thi. th. that's, th. th. that's th. that's just just, that's that's that's that's that's thi. the same things as him calling them flying saucers regardless if they actually were in a saucer shape or not. I mean, less than 1% of supposed UFO sightings before Kenneth Arnold, there's only 1% of claims that are legitimate that they're actually saucer shaped. And up until the 80s and 90s, only 5% of sightings

Starting point is 00:23:49 that could be considered legitimate were saucer shaped as well. What is the purpose of labeling it? Do you think, why do you think they labeled it as a saucer? Because it was probably the easiest, because the term had already been in the consciousness of everybody in the public since 1880s with these, with trap shooting and these little clay disc being called flying saucers. And if you look up these clay disc on Google, they look very similar to what is commonly represented as a UFO.

Starting point is 00:24:24 So they needed something that the public could relate to what is commonly represented as a UFO. So they needed something that the public could relate to the phenomenon so they use the term flying saucers. I guess you see what you know right? Exactly so if they can correlate something that some that the public is already familiar with which they were to something new and then you change the context of what that thing actually is, then it gives people a good representation of something that never really even existed, which is a coincidence because George Lewiske, the guy that the coin the term flying is also for these clay pigeons, which is another thing to to Kenneth Arnold. He said he said the exact same thing

Starting point is 00:25:10 When he was coming up with the idea of the sport of flying saucers in 1880? 67 years before Kenneth Arnold sightings, excuse me, he said the exact same thing. He said that he got the idea of using clay pigeons, which were called flying saucers, from watching kids toss saucers across the water. Make that one make sense. Oh weird, dude. It's so weird. It's just such a weird, I guess, I guess you could look back and go, that's very naive because where we are right now and people like yourself and everybody else is trying to

Starting point is 00:25:51 get all this information out about UFOs, but then you go, what is the purpose of them wanting us to believe in this stuff? Like, is it just, is it just demoralize us that we're not the head, you know, the top of the pyramid? What do you think it is? Well, you really get into that reason when you look into the events of Paul Benowitz and all the events that surround him in 1978. Paul Benowitz was an American businessman and a UFO investigator.

Starting point is 00:26:28 Benowitz was born in Kansas. He earned a bachelor's degree from Arizona State, and during World War II, he was a radio electronics engineer for the Coast Guard. He worked as an engineer for San Francisco, CBS Station and a radio station in Tucson. And in 1949, Benowitz married his wife, Cindy Brunch, in Phoenix, Arizona. And around 1953, Benowitz moved to New Mexico and began his own industrial sales company.

Starting point is 00:26:54 And in 1966, Benowitz acquired the rights to a humidity sensor from the Sedona National Laboratories. He founded a scientific company called Thunder Scientific, which was a small family business with his wife Cindy, and they've developed high-powered instruments for NASA and the Air Force. So during the 1970s, Benowicz, he became interested in UFOs and in these types of strange anomalies, and he became a member of the Arizona aerial phenomenon research which was an organization ran by a it

Starting point is 00:27:32 was a civilian UFO investigation group. So by the mid-1970s cattle mutilations have become very highly associated with UFOs and people were thinking that, you know, these, all these counter mutilations had to do with extraterrestrial craft that would come in to duck them and cut them open and drain their blood and take their organs out and all that and mutilate them, right? So on April 20th, 1979, U.S. Attorney Thompson and U.S. Senator Harrison Schmidt how to public meeting about cattle mutilations.

Starting point is 00:28:05 The meeting was attended by about 80 people and one of the attendees was Paul Benowitz. Now, some people correlate this meeting about cattle mutilations is where the targeting of government officials likely first happened because at this meeting, Paul Benowitz was introduced to a highway patrol officer named Gabe Valdez, who was investigating these incidents, which is important for later on, so remember that. In these meetings about cattle mutilations, Paul Benowicz was introduced to a highway patrol officer named Gabe Valdez, right? So Benowitz later listed that July in 1979 was the beginning of a personally funded study into UFOs because Benowitz reportedly began filming strange

Starting point is 00:28:57 lights and recording strange audio signals over Kirkland Air Force Base. So Benowitz would essentially post up on his back patio. Kirkland Air Force base was So Benowit would essentially post up on his back patio. Kirkland Air Force Base was only a half a mile away. He would see these strange lights lift up off of the ground, mainly two bright lights, and they were slowly lift up off of the ground, and then they would zip around and then zip around and back around the mountain. So if common sense would tell you that if you're seeing something strange next to a military base and you're probably seeing advanced military technology, right? So, I mean, it's kind of like some of these other people that, you know, claim to have a video of UFOs and all the stuff, and

Starting point is 00:29:37 there's a military base right underneath it, right? That's a common thing that always happens. I mean, Jeremy Corbell is taking some pictures of some flares over a military base and calling them UFOs when they're proven to be flares, right? It's something that happens literally all the time. So Paul being a radio expert, he was very well-versed in radio technology. He decided to try and listen into the communications at Kirkland Air Force Base to try and figure out what these strange lights were or if the military knew what these strange lights were. So he apparently decoded a bunch of the transmissions and put together on his own that it was about technology and that the technology wasn't from here. So this began his whole journey into the extraterrestrial

Starting point is 00:30:24 around. Okay, real quick before we move that, I just want everybody to go to Sam Tripli.com and check out my dates. I'm going to be in Bellflower this Saturday night. Then I'm going to be at the La Jolla Comedy Store for the greatest ever comedy chaos. And at the end of the month I'm at the La Hoya comedy store to 24 through 26. So where do you, where do you land on Project High Jump and its connection to all this stuff? Before we go deeper into the mutilation and all that stuff. Well, I think that Project High Jump was a very real military operational. As far as, what is his name, I'm blanking on what his name is, Bird?

Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah, Admiral Bird. As far as Admiral Bird going to Antarctica, because there's all those stories previously of him going into Antarctica and going down into this into the inner earth and meeting with these beings that tell him about nuclear war and to never come back. I personally believe that all those are fake. Those were that whole story came from diaries of his and pretty sure that those diaries were forgeries. But as far as Operation High Jump it was a very real... I'm pretty sure that those diaries were forgeries. But as far as Operation High Jumb it was a very real military operation

Starting point is 00:31:51 where they did go to Antarctica. Now there's not too much information of exactly what happened. Now people would like to claim that it was a UFO attack by a Nazi craft that happened during that time. And they used the basis of that whenever I think that he went to, he took his fleet to South America and talked to a news reporter and said that the military needs to get in line because they're going to have to fight some kind of craft that goes from poll to poll within a matter of minutes or something craft that goes from pole to pole within the matter of minutes or something

Starting point is 00:32:25 like that. But really nobody knows exactly what happened in Antarctica. But do you buy into the meeting with like Eisenhower and with the you know Klaus Schwab's dad going either we're fucking or I'm fucking which one you know it's like that that whole story and then which sets up them missing 4-1 which is a very interesting story do you buy into all that? I do not because as you'll see as we get further into the okay with story the whole entire mythology of Eisenhower signing a contract with extraterrestrial came from Paul Benowitz so in October of 191-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 Benowitz. So in October of 1980, Benowitz contacted Kirkland Air Force Base to report his findings and like any good Samaritan would do, but at this point Benowitz is, you know,

Starting point is 00:33:20 kind of teetering on the edge of thinking maybe it's aliens, maybe it's not. So November 1980, Benowitz briefed the people at Kirkland Air Force Base on his findings. The military personnel possibly thought that maybe this could have been a Soviet threat or another country or someone planning to invade the base. So to figure out more about what Paul Benowitz knew and what footage he had and able to make sure that it wasn't a possible threat per se, they put him in contact with a gentleman named Richard Doty, which Richard Doty is an AFOSI Air Force Office of Special Investigations. Now Paul not really knowing what he had because he didn't analyze the information properly. Richard Doty figuring out pretty quickly after going to his house to speak with him that

Starting point is 00:34:11 what he had was top secret radio transmissions from the Air Force base that didn't have anything to do with extra trash trails and that he had footage of top-secret military craft that he was filming. Richard Doty then convinced Paul that it was extraterrestrials and that it had to do with extraterrestrial craft. Now he didn't outright tell him that for a fact, but he was planning seeds into Paul Benowitz's head that may be that what he has and the information and the radio transmissions and some of the footage could have possibly come from extra trash trails, right? And excuse me, and UFOs. And with Paul being a World War II vet, it was very easy for Richard Doety to convince him to keep quiet about it for a time being.

Starting point is 00:35:06 Like, you know, be quiet, Paul. You owe it to your country not to say anything about this, anyone in order to try and keep a lid on the advanced technology that the military is working on, right? Keep all this information to yourself, Paul. But it turns out that it wasn't just Doaty that was doing this. All of the generals of the generals of the generals of the generals of the generals of the generals of the generals of the generals of the generals of the generals the generals the generals the general the general the general the general the general the general the general the general the the the th. th. th. to to to to to th. th. th. to to to to to to too. too. too. too. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. to, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. the. the. the. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to, to, thi. the, turns out that it wasn't just Doty that was doing this. All of the generals during Paul's briefing at the Air Force base was in on it. After Paul showed them footage of what he had captured, the strange craft, which was a top-secret experimental military aircraft, a burglargear general stood up and said, you got some pretty convincing evidence there, Paul, and ask him what he would like the Air Force to do about it. Now Paul wanted... That is not a good idea. Imagine if you're in a meeting and a guy stands up going, oh you got a lot of evidence. What would you like us to do about? You're like, oh dude, I'm in trouble right now. They are, they are dancing. They're definitely

Starting point is 00:36:02 circling the wagons around me, you know, I mean.. Oh, they, they, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're like, they're, they. That's, they're, they. That's. That's. they. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That, th. That, th. That's. That's. That's. That's, th. definitely circling the wagons around me, you know, I mean, Yeah, I'm certainly right, but they're circling around me, dude, like a pack of wolves. Yeah, it becomes a lot of paranoia, right? So, like, if you go into like Bill Cooper, you know, brought up the whole like UFOs and all this stuff on documents. Then Bill Cooper came to believe thats and all this stuff on documents. Then Bill Cooper came to believe that he was fed that information so that he would spread the word. Exactly and that's exactly what they did to Paul Binowicz as well. Later on Bill Cooper came to the conclusion that it's all military

Starting point is 00:36:39 craft and that more specifically that it was in his words Nazi military craft and later on more specifically that it was in his words Nazi military craft and later on he was killed and now him dying really didn't have anything to do with his investigations in the UFOs. I think there was a tax evasion that the police ended up killing him for which is still kind of suspicious but during the end of Bill Cooper's career in UFology he was wanting to take a step back he was like no this isn't what everyone thinks that it is you think everyone thinks that it's these extraterrestrials and all

Starting point is 00:37:13 this but when it's really just military aircraft so he was trying to take a step back from the community and when he discovered that he had been duped by people and that it wasn't extraterrestrial craft. Okay, I just see them planting this stuff all the time on these people and you're just like kind of, what is the purpose of it? And it almost becomes this, what's this panoptagon prison where like they want us to be so in fear of what they're doing and I think this is kind of part of that right? Well when you think of the term national security that's something that a lot of people in the community like to throw around you know especially some of the military people that have

Starting point is 00:37:58 seen some advanced form of craft they'll be like yeah well these things are invading our airspace is a threat to national security. But see, these terms and these ideas and these things that they say have multiple meanings. It's not a national security because there's some extraterrestrial race that's invading our airspace. It's national security because if another country gets a hold of the technology that we have then we're exposed. You see that they play they play a little word games with people. Yeah I get what you're saying. You don't think any of that is some

Starting point is 00:38:39 other government? Absolutely. Yeah you don't think it's all 100% USA, right? Oh, you think like what, like Russians may be? Absolutely. Russians got more Nazi German scientists after World War II than the United States did. So if we have that kind of technology, then Russia definitely has close or similar types of technology now. It's... Go ahead. Sorry. Now, I was going to ask about the the the th. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to to to to to to th. Like, th. Like, th. th. th. th. th. th. to. th. th. thpes of technology now. Go ahead, sorry.

Starting point is 00:39:06 Now I was going to ask about the origins of the technology. Also terrestrial, you'd say? Yes. All man-made, yes. I mean, we have proof of that going back to the Sonora era club in the early 1800s. They were creating these airships. And then if you go back through the newspaper articles of that time you'll see people seeing strange things in the sky and that correlates to the the time that they were actually creating these man-made airships. What's the explanation for keeping

Starting point is 00:39:32 the secret text so far ahead of what we deploy in war? Well that would be in my personal opinion, I mean there's not any proof or any evidence of the reason why they keep it a secret other than they don't want other less developed countries to know that we have this advanced technology and that is our technology. So they put it out so far out of reach and make it about extraterrestrials in order to cover up the fact that it's ours because there's nothing that you can do about extraterrestrial craft, right? Extraterrestrial craft is so far advanced than anything that we possibly know, right? They got tractor beams, they got lasers and all this stuff. So if you put it so far out of the realm of possibility,

Starting point is 00:40:15 then it makes it easy to cover up on on the nature of the globe, but even calling it that I know is biased. But are they are they in space? These that I'm not 100% sure of. Now drones for sure I mean Sean Kirk that ran Arrow for a really long time they just came out with the historical UFO report. And basically I've been saying the same thing since 1947 with Project Grudge and Project Sign and Project Blue Book. But now they're admitting that these craft are military craft and more specifically military drone. Unmanned military drones. Yeah, because the the G's they're pulling right, no

Starting point is 00:41:05 one could survive what we've what we see on tape, right? That's right, so it wouldn't, it's not out of the realm of possibility that if these are indeed drones, which is the official response to Arrow, which is a government sanctioned investigation into UFOs and UAPs that they would be able to take a drone into space. Hey guys, hey guys, hey guys, hey guys, let me tell you about Helix Sleep. Listen, I use Helix Sleep mattress. I love it. I love it. I love it comfy. Every time I stay on it, I feel like I'm staying in a high-end 5-star hotel. It's so comfortable. I love it.

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Starting point is 00:46:08 So, so, they are talking about how in the Ukraine right now, they're using AI weapons, like straight up, they're doing like Terminator shit over there. Like it's crazy where we are and we're just like, oh yeah, you know, it's like it's it's it's all this stuff is military. So you do believe, okay, I will ask you at the end of this because I don't want to find where you're going right now, but it just seems like there's just they have to they have to run simulations with these things. So they're like, when's the weirdest time the weirdest the weirdest the weirdest the weirdest the weirdest the weirdest the weirdest. the weirdest. the weirdest. We we we we we we the weirdest. the weirdest. We we're the weirdest. We the weirdest. We're the weirdest. We're the weirdest. the weirdest. the weirdest. the weirdest. the weirdest. the weirdest. the weirdest. the weird. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. to run. their. their. their. We. We're, their. We're, th. We're, they. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, the. It's. It's, the. It's, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the things. So they're like, when's the weirdest time we could do this when we know like one or two people are going to see and then we'll just call them crazy people. So to deny their whole story, right? That's basically what they do right now.

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Starting point is 00:47:58 He thinks that it's extraterraceals. These Air Force command is telling them that it's probably extra terraceals. You got Richard Doty saying that this was extraterrestrial. So whenever the Burgadier General stands up and says, well, what would you like us to really do about this, right? Paul Benowitz wants a grant to continue his investigations into UFOs on the Air Force base and also a grant to continue his contact with aliens. They claimed that he had. Now this caught the Air Force off guard because he's saying that he has contact with these aliens right and this is where things get really sinister, very sinister. Now, we've

Starting point is 00:48:46 established that the Air Force special investigators like Richard Doty and really all of the Air Force personnel were involved in the briefing, were pushing Paul in the direction of extraterraceals and UFOs, when what he was really getting was video footage of top secret experimental aircraft and radio transmissions from the Air Force Base. But another agency was also involved in this. Now what had happened was is Paul was picking up these signals from Kirkland Air Force Base, which he didn't really know that that was the case. He didn't realize that these were military transmissions.

Starting point is 00:49:22 So the NSA posted up across the street and would directly beam radio signals into Paul's antenna, into his house, to make Paul believe that what he was getting, was from extraterrace. And what he was seeing on the computer screen was what he should be seeing and what he was getting was what he should be getting, right? The NSA literally broke in the Paul Benowitz's house, replaced his computer with an NSA modified computer, the computer has software installed onto it to decode the messages that were being sent to Paul in his house and the way that they wanted Paul to see them. And in these messages... That is crazy!

Starting point is 00:50:10 They did that, that's how far it's gone, yes. Crazy, dude. So I said this before, man, and people could call me nuts. I used to like, back in the day when I would find like a video that had like some really interesting information, and I go, all the that.. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th th th-and th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- th- that is that is that is that is th--- th- th- th- that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is the messages, the messages, th--------------------------------------------that is th, th, th, th-tha th-s that-s that-s that-s that-s that-s me that-s me that-s me that-s me that-s me that-s me that-s me that-s me that-s me that-s th like back in the day when I would find like a video that had like some really interesting information and I go oh this is going to be wiped off the internet I'm gonna pull this video right? Well one day back at this is my old place I would go into the video I'd have a file on my computer and the video I would go into the videos right and? And the videos, all the audio was gone.

Starting point is 00:50:47 Like they'd replaced the videos with videos with no audio. And it never happened since. It was all this crazy, like early on when we were like, pizza gay, all that stuff. You were like pulling all these crazy videos with all this crazy information. One day I go on my computer, all those videos had no audio on them. That's interesting. Maybe you were being stocked by the NSA. Well, I, well, Ryder, I definitely didn't tell you this, and this is even before

Starting point is 00:51:22 both these guys were on the show. Back early, early, early into the show. I got like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I, I, I, I, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, all th, all th, all th, all th, all th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. I, th. I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th is even before both these guys were on the show. Back early, early, early into the show, I got like an email that had a U.S. Navy email that sent me all this stuff on Q. And I'm like, and now later on when we realize that Q is just basically Operation Trust, right? You're like, oh, do they sent me that to give me like the push, like, like, along the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, like, like, like, right? You're like, oh, do they send me that to give me, like the push, like, along the lines of what you're talking about now. That's right, I've gotten some of those emails too, where they're trying to recruit you

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Starting point is 00:52:31 Yeah. Made up for your last awful question earlier in the show. Go on. We basically asked the way to say that. I think it's a possibility that Bob Lazar was shown something. Now, if he actually worked on this craft, like he said that he worked on this craft, it is really up in the air because there's no information that confirms that he even had a degree from the place that he went.

Starting point is 00:52:57 Now people still say, oh well the men and black came in and erased all that information which possibly, right? But I'm just going to say one thing, writer, and this is, and I'm going to put you in touch with this guy I know. His father told him a story as he was going out of this world about how he was like a handyman at the like this Chicago Institute of Something. And I did it very early on on the Patreon. I probably have the episode somewhere on one of my drives.

Starting point is 00:53:34 But his name's Trevor Cavallollow, and I don't think his dad's with us anymore. His dad actually passed away, I think like two, three years ago. And his dad told him that, and he goes, my dad doesn't make up stories like this. This has never has th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th like two three years ago and his dad told him that and he goes my dad doesn't make up stories like this this has never been my dad he goes his dad was like a handyman he got called down to go fix like a printer at this lower level and he goes down there and it's a level he's never been to and he walks in he sees like weird weird like things in rooms,

Starting point is 00:54:08 horses, like being experimented on, animals being experimented on. And then he goes in, there's this giant hanger at the lowest level, he says, his dad tells him this. And he looked at the hangar inside, there a shh kind of a craft in there And he said he could see little like green and gray things crawling all over this craft And as he's staring at the craft suddenly there's a gun in his face going what are you doing here? And he goes I was asked to come down here and fix Fix something there's something to be fixed. This isn't where the printer is? Is it? Yeah, oh, yeah, this is this? This? This? This? This is this? This is this? This is this? This is? This is? This is? This is? This is? This is? This is? This is? This is? This is? This is? This is? th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the green? the, the green, the green, the green, the green, the green, the green, the green, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the green? the green? the green? the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the th. the the green, the green, the green, the green, the green, the green, the green, the green, the green, the green, the green, the green, the green, the green,'s something to be fixed. This isn't where the printer is, is it? Yeah. Oh yeah, this is what his dad tells him. His dad tells him, his dad tell. He's never heard the story. His dad tell the slay, he drone. And then his dad says that throughout his life, whenever he gets traveled, he would, whenever he traveled internationally internationally internationally internationally internationally internationally, he would, he would, he would he internationally internationally internationally internationally internationally internationally, fucking men in black would show up and ask him,

Starting point is 00:55:05 have you told anybody what you saw? And you go, like I told nobody, it wasn't until he's going on his way out. They told him that. So it's like, and that's a weird ass story because Trevor Cavalos, a friend who I would say is borderline retarded. So, well, that's the guy you believe, yeah. But I mean, like, he's not a guy that like, he's not, and basically he's, I don't think he's a guy who's connected. Here's what you have to ask yourself though. What are the odds that they let a printer tech, who doesn't even work there into the bowels of one of the most secret facilities on the planet.

Starting point is 00:55:49 Unless they want him talking about it. Yeah, but why would they want to, he didn't tell anybody and they threaten his life. Yeah, but that's the game that gets played Johnny, I'm watching the jinx right. This guy, he can't shut up. And he still did a talk. J that's. J that. J th. J th. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. And th. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. th. J. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the they. the they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. He. He the. He the. He the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. He th. He can't shut up. Yeah, he can't shut up. Right, and he still did a doc on it. And then, dude, this is how crazy, and we'll get back to this. This is how crazy a story. He does, he kills the people. Does a doc tell him they didn't kill the people? Then watches the doc as they try try, try, try, try, try, try, tha, tha, tha, tha, the. the. the. the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, and, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to, to, the, the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. to. to. to, to. to. t try to show everybody how he killed everybody. And it wasn't until episode five, they goes, oh, I'm in trouble.

Starting point is 00:56:26 And he tries to flee. Yeah, that's great. Right? So my point is, they know who my, I'm just telling you, it's like that big foot story where the guy's like, where it goes into the mountains and try to look for big foot. And then they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find they find. It was. they find. It was. It was. It was. It was. they. they. they. they. they. they, it was. they, it was. they, it was. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It was. It was. It was, it. It was, it. It was, it. It was, it was, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was just, it was justthey it was just a bunch of guys who just knew this tweaker would talk Yeah, I don't know I maybe not printer text maybe podcasters you invite them down to the basement But not I mean, I'm just saying sorry writer, but I like I'm just saying this is a story told to me by a guy that I mean unless he's a larp which I don't think Trevor the point is Trevor's a friend of mine. He's not hea. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi is just is just is just is just is. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. is he is he is he is he he he he he he he he is he he is he he he he is he is he is he he is he he he he he he he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is a he is a he is a he is a he is a th. He is a th. He is a he is a he is a he is a he is a he is a he is a he is a he is a he he is he he he he hetalk about it. Which is what I mean, well he and he kept to his word it sounds like he didn't tell his son until he's on his deathbed. So they did, if they were,

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Starting point is 00:58:07 That's, I just want to put that story out because it fits into that Bob Lazar like letting people see something and even even the Bill Cooper where he's like, they just let me see this stuff because they want me to tell everybody. And I think that that's the case with the Bobb is our stuff. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. that's that's that that that that's that that's the case with the with the Bablazar stuff that I mean it's highly possible. Again, I don't have any proof for any evidence about it, but it's highly possible to me personally that he was shown something in order for him to go out and talk about it. Now there is something that's really interesting that Bob Bazaar says that I do think th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th there is something that's really interesting that Babazar says that I do think is possible, is that he talked about, because whenever he's questioned, he, like by where the craft come from, right, and one of his responses is that he was under the impression that at least one of the craft was dug up in an archaeological dig. Which makes a lot of sense on where some of the stuff may have possibly come from,

Starting point is 00:59:14 which is another kind of switching of the terminology and switching of the meaning of what a crash retrieval actually means. So when people hear the term crash retrieval, they think, oh well, it's something of modern times, right? Or the military or someone saw this craft go down, or they saw it on radar, and they immediately went to discover it or went to figure it out. Which fits, but a crash retrieval doesn't necessarily need to need to be something in modern times. It can be something that has been dug up, right? If we all for, let's say we all four decided to go to Afghanistan or Iraq or somewhere in the Middle East and we did an archaeological dig, the four of us, let's say we're highly advanced

Starting point is 01:00:01 archaeologists, we know what we're doing, right? We do an archaeological dig, we find something, we find some sort of strange craft. That would still be a crash retrieval. It doesn't matter the amount of time that is passed in between the crash and them discovering it is still crash retrieval. Yeah, okay, interesting. Interesting, for sure. Would you say Roswell was planted? You think that was all fake and let let some people see it on a go tell people, oh, there was a crash and then the whole hot air balloon thing, you think that was all pretty much

Starting point is 01:00:36 get the ball rolling more? I think so. I think it was a thing to get the mythology going quicker and the thing about Roswell further on in the story story th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi that that that that that that that that was that was that that that that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thate thate thate thate that. that. that. that. that. that was all that was all that was that was that was that was that mythology going quicker. And the thing about Roswell, which gets into Roswell further on in the story about Paul Benowicz, because he's also connected to some of the Roswell incident. But Roswell really wasn't popularized and became a site of UFO folklore until 1980. With a book titled The Roswell Inc. Which I'm going to talk about here soon. So there's a big labs.

Starting point is 01:01:12 Shut up XG, let him talk. No, it's a really good point. He brings up a really good point there. All these events are really connected and they all regurgitate each other and then a little bit of mythology gets out and then other people compound upon their mythology and then it comes become something that it was never intended to be in the first place. So we have the NSA posted up across the street. The NSA is broken in to Paul Benowitz's house,

Starting point is 01:01:36 replaces computer with an NSA modified computer. The computer had a special NSA software installed on it to decode these messages that were being sent to Paul Benowitz in the way that they wanted Paul Benowitz to see him. And in these messages that Paul thought that he was receiving or getting from extraterrestrials that he thought that he was in communication with through his computer, which was really the NSA. Dude, that's so crazy. That's so crazy. In these messages, they said that, and a lot of the mythology comes from this, the NSA messing with Paul Benowicz, a lot of the extraterrestrial mythology.

Starting point is 01:02:18 They said that they were from another planet, that they had no water, that they were here for our resources, and to take over Earth, and that they only trusted Paul because Paul was the chosen one. How many times that we heard that throughout the times, right? Only I can communicate with the extra-terrestrial. Only I can communicate with Ashtar, Galactic Command, you know, George Van Tassel in the early 50s, you know, you got the cult the cult the cult the c the c the c the c got the ca th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thu-inus, the, they they they were only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only th-a, th-a, th-a, thu-a, thu-a, thu-a, thu-a, thu-a, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-s, throooooa-s, thea'-s. throa'-s. throa'-s. throooo'-a, the only only only know, you got the cult of I am in the early 30s that basically created the entire St. Germain mythology and was claiming that he was the only one that was in contact with St. Dermain. You know, and it's that same type of rhetoric that the NSA is saying to Paul Benowitz. And they also said all kinds of other things, which a lot of those things are still talked about within the community to this very day.

Starting point is 01:03:09 And with Paul believing he's in communication with these extraterrestrials, it's still a common, regurgitated thing within the community. And it's all completely made up by NSA agents. So if you didn't think that that was bad enough with the NSA breaking in the Paul Benowitz's home and replacing his computer to make him believe that he was in communications with extra terraceals, it gets worse. So in May of 1980, state police in New Mexico received a report from a woman calling herself, Murna

Starting point is 01:03:47 Henson. She described a story which was involving extraterrestrial aliens, bright lights, herds of cattle being sucked up into UFOs. The police then referred to the case to their colleague in Dulce named Gabe Valdez. Remember Gabe Valdez that I talked about earlier in the conversation? They knew Gabe Valdez to be the cattle mutilation guy because he basically put on this conference that first introduced Paul to this gentleman or his interest in the cases. Now Valdez, in turn, then contacted Paul Benowitz.

Starting point is 01:04:27 So on May 7th, 1980, Murna Henson and her son traveled to Albuquerque to meet with Benowicz. They stayed at his home. Henson explained to Benowicz that on May 5th, 1980, while she was driving on the road with her son near Eagle Nest, New Mexico. They had witnessed two large silent objects approximately the size of a Goodyear blimp hovering over a madow. It looks like a blimp. Seems like a blimp is probably a blimp. So they then contacted a gentleman named Leo Sprinkle, which was a psychiatrist and a professor at the University of Wyoming, who had been investigating UFO contact E reports.

Starting point is 01:05:19 Now, Benowitz arranged for Sprinkle to fly to Albuquerque to hypnotize Henson. Now when Sprinkle arrived, Henson and Benowicz insisted that the sessions be conducted in Benowins's Lincoln Town Car parked inside the garage with the car windows covered in aluminum foil. Right. Paul is literally out of his mind at this point, which I don't blame him, right? You got the NSA right across the street, stocking you. You got to be paranoid. You got the Air Force telling you that you're right about the aliens, but you can't tell anyone. So Sprinkle decided to regress this woman in the infoiled car in Benowitz's garage. And during her first regression, she really, them, right, right, right, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, right, right, right, right, them, them, them, them, them, right, them, right, right, right, right, them, right, right, right, right them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, th. I th. I the, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, the, the, this woman in the enfoiled car in Benowitz's garage.

Starting point is 01:06:07 And during her first regression, she reported a recollection of a cow being sucked up into a hovering spacecraft by a tractor beam. Right? Then on May 11th and 12th of 1980 under hypnosis, Hinson then reported recollections of being abducted and being taken to an underground base with body parts floating in vats. These regressions would later on evolve into the mythology of the Dulce base and Phil Schneider. So during the session, she also talked about Roswell, Roswell, New Mexico. Although, like I was mentioning earlier, the public had not connected the town of Roswell to UFO mythology yet, which is really the perfect setup because Bill Moore's book, the Roswell incident,

Starting point is 01:07:08 just a few months later in October of 1980, which was all missing disinformation about the alien craft crashing in Roswell, which popularized the myth and the lore and brought it to the forefront of Uphology. This was a perfect setup for that. And Bill Moore is also a known asset to the military in these three-led organizations. He was working with Richard Doty, which was the AFSOI Air Force agent that was feeding Paul all this missing disinformation and deception. So Bill more writes his book on Roswell, which gets the lore and the mythology really rolling. No one cared about it, no one knew about it before his book came out.

Starting point is 01:07:48 And it just became its own entity, and it got the whole thing rolling. And Bill Moore even stood up in front of a Moufant conference in 1989 and tried to tell everybody that there was this was bacon made up nonsense. And they boot him off of the stage. And no one has heard from him since. So with Hansen claiming to see these large blimp-like crafts, she also recalled having given an alien implant by the aliens during her regression, right, that's where the alien implant lore comes from. Sprinkle returned to visit Benowitz later on to perform another regression with Hinson

Starting point is 01:08:31 to figure out more made up stuff and he found that Benamits was basically out of his mind. He was armed with a pistol and a rifle saying that he was concerned that he was vulnerable to being attacked by aliens. You know, these people were literally driving Paul out of his mind to the point where he thought that he was going to be attacked by aliens. It's really a sad story. And he was armed up with guns and thinfoil to protect himself and his family in Henson and thinking that uh, Sprinkle was a, Leo Sprinkle was an alien or whatever he thought, he told him to leave.

Starting point is 01:09:11 Then he contacted another hypnotist by the names of James Harder, which James Harder had also conducted the hypnotic regression on one of the most famous abductees, which is Travis Walton in 1975. And Benowitz and James Harder came to the conclusion that Henson was under the influence of alien beams and wrote detailed instructions on how to use aluminum foil to shield a room from these alien beams. This is literally where all the tinfoil stuff comes from. Hey, no one has any idea that it came from the government miss and disinformation surrounding.

Starting point is 01:10:00 So let me ask you some writer, are you here today on this show? Are you saying that you feel all of this is bullshit? Any anyone who says they were abducted? Anybody who says they were probed? The, the, the, the, area 51, all that stuff. You think that is all bullshit upon bullshit? Well, I'm not here to tell people what they did or didn't experience. I'm just here to lay out the deception, how far the NSA and the government and the Air Force and the military has gone to spread deception about UFOs and aliens.

Starting point is 01:10:46 I don't tell somebody what they experienced. Put to the fire, gun to the head. Do you think that it's all, what we perceive as alien encounters is bullshit? Well, you have Stephen Greer that, uh, one of the first people to say that they would just stage alien abductions that they would have these military people dressed up as little great aliens and abduct people and they would make them believe that they were on an extra terrestrial craft when they were really in a military bunker. You know so it's like I don't don't know, it's the conclusion that, you

Starting point is 01:11:29 know, people need to come to on their own. I'm just here to, you know, give you the information. Right, right. And I'm okay. But if I had a gun to my head and they said, you know, is, you know, is this made up, or aliens real real I would have to say that it's the military and it's always been the military. It's and it sounds crazy you saying that military people dressed up like green little aliens or monsters or whatever they were at that moment in time but I mean they gave people LSD operation climax they don't care they really like if you think about it like now you mention it they don't mind adopting someone putting them in a base tel they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they. they their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th the. the. the. theee. their their they. their their their they. the like, now you mention it, they don't mind adopting someone, putting them in a base, telling you you got abducted and then here go wrong with it. Because when you believe everything, when you hear Operation Climax, that's when you believe like, holy fuck, they don't care. Giving you hooker and LSD PSYOP over the getting probed by aliens?

Starting point is 01:12:27 Like, well, they knock you out and just, just wreck your hole and then you wake up going, oh, it's aliens, dude. I have a follow up to that really quickly. Now, do you think there is a difference in the agenda of the people within the government who are promoting the idea of it being aliens versus those who suggest it's spiritual? Because that's kind of a new thing we've seen over the last five years I would say is that this idea that you know you remember the story about like there's somebody in the Pentagon who thinks it's demons, you know, do you think they're different agendas at play within the government? I think so too. We've seen a, we've seen a recent uptick in people saying that they are demons.

Starting point is 01:13:11 And there's always been this kind of division within the, within UFology that one side thinks it's a 100% physical phenomenon and the other side thinks that it's like a more spiritual phenomenon. Now I can tell you that a big reason that I personally feel feel feel that that th feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel that thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the their their thi their their their their their thi, um their their thi, um, we've their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi ti ti ti tipeee. thi thi thi thii thi thi thi thi thi thi th side thinks that it's like a more spiritual phenomenon. Now I can tell you that a big reason that I personally feel that they switched it from UFO to UAP is to encompass more phenomenon because UAP can be anything, it can be plasma, it can be a ball lightning, it can be a satellite, it can be an air balloon, right? So I think that they switched that name from UFO, which I believe UFO was actually, the term UFO started with Project Blue Book. I'm pretty sure they're the ones that coined the term UFO. So then they switched it again to UAP to actually encompass more of the phenomenon. So now anything that you see that strange can be considered a UAP and I'm

Starting point is 01:14:17 sure that they probably know that some of it has to be like weird plasma. Yeah, well and there are some, you mentioned ball lightning, I mean that is among the weirdest natural phenomenon, incredibly rare. Have you heard of ball lightning, Sam, do you know what this is? It's, yes, I've heard of it. Yeah, I mean it's, I, the story tell actually what it is. He doesn't know what it is. The stories of people who have witnessed it. It's just an incredibly rare instance where a ball of electricity, I mean, there are stories of people who had it enter like through a window into their room. I don't know if I buy those, but there, I mean, there's ideas that it started like historical fires. But yeah, it's just like a ball of lightning that floats around on its own and then, you know, it goes goes their their their their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. is, th. is, th. is, th. is, th. is, th. is, th. is, th. is, thi. is, thi. is, thi. is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, is its own and then, you know, goes off. And they have no idea what causes it.

Starting point is 01:15:05 It's, yeah, it's fascinating. And if you saw that, I mean, I could totally see you, you know, especially to someone without a knowledge of it, being indistinguishable from magic or spiritual, you know, entity entering your space. So shit, man. So Johnny brought that up and you were talking about modern UFOs. What do you think about people that saw stuff in like medieval times or you see it like in a painting?

Starting point is 01:15:28 What would you say that is that was just? Well, it was it was never called UFOs or flying saucers back then. It was different. It was pillars. It was columns in the sky. it was chariots, it was, you know, different types of things that they could try and relate it to in that time period, just like they tried to relate what the flying saucer was in a different context of something that people was already familiar with. As far as those types of sightings, they've happened so long ago that it's hard to depict exactly what they were seeing. I mean, if you had just a

Starting point is 01:16:14 slightly more advanced community of people during that time, they would think that what they were seen was something completely magic when it could have as easily been something that was man-made. And I don't think that that's out of the realm of possibility. Again, no proof, no evidence, but that there was a slightly more advanced race of people on the planet during this time, just like we live amongst savages in the Amazon rainforest, right? We're this highly advanced technological group of what we consider technologically advanced group of people that live in most of the world, but there's also very

Starting point is 01:17:11 un-technological and savage people also here sharing the planet with us. So, so in the big picture, do you believe any of the, the mysticism of this realm? Are you a god guide? Do you believe in God? Do you believe in maybe extraterrestrial from extra lands beyond any of that stuff? Are you into any of that alternative view of our reality? I think that it's highly possible that, again, that there may possibly be an advanced reason of, I mean it's the cryptotereal theory, right, that these aren't beings from outside of our world or off of our planet or from another planet, they're actually from here. Now if I were to throw my hat in the ring on the extra terrestrial theory, that's what I would boil it down to. If they exist, I'm not saying that they do exist, but if they do exist, they're not coming from off the planet.

Starting point is 01:18:12 They're coming from here. Which then gets into a whole other theory as well, because people, they like to say, oh, well, they're here. They've always th th th th th th th th th th th tho th. They're th. They're th. They're thi thi thi thi. The thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. tho tho thoe. thi. thi. the. tho. tho. tho tho tho tho tho thoe. I the. I the. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. theeeea. thea. thea. the.to say oh well they're here they've always been here they're all around us they're making they're making hybrid alien human hybrid beans well if you travel to another country Sam Johnny if you travel to another country if you travel to another country he's not allowed to hear he's here illegally so he has to stay he's worried if he leaves he won't be able to get back in, so he's got to stay here. So, so me and Johnny, we could travel.

Starting point is 01:18:50 Okay, if you guys travel to another country, you would be considering an alien. That's what you would be. You would be an alien because you would be an. You're not from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from that from from that from there, you're an alien. And then like you just mentioned, illegal alien. If you just put illegal on the front of alien and you get in a completely different context of what an alien is, right? And you think of, oh well, they are all around us. They have always been here. I mean, look, what's just below the United States, Mexico. What's north of the United States, Canada. If someone illegally comes in from a the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front. the front. the front. the front. the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front the front their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. And their their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their their their th. And. And. And. And. And, you're th. And.ea.ea.ea.ea. And. And. And. And. And. And, their their their their their their their their th. States, Mexico, what's north of the United States, Canada. If someone illegally comes in from Canada or from Mexico, they're an illegal alien. They're around us all the time, 24-7.

Starting point is 01:19:33 See it's another play-on words that the community uses when it actually means something completely different, but the perception of what it's been made to mean is wrong. Interesting, bro, it's all so interesting. What you're saying about it being military makes a lot of sense though too, because I mean, we've, you know, with a different reasoning, we've heard that, oh, they appear over military facilities because, you know, they want to keep tabs on it or whatever, but if they are being deployed from military facilities, that would make as much as th, th, th, th, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to keep tabs on it or whatever but if they are being deployed from military facilities that would make as much if not more sense. I mean and him and then on that too I mean what a coincidence they came up after World War two after the nukes and all that they start popping up a lot more often so it

Starting point is 01:20:18 leans more on that. Well when it comes to this this Mernan Henson lady I kind of want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to to to the the to the to the the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theen. the thu. theen. theen. theen. the. the. the. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thean is. thean is more more more more more. theanan is more. theanneenenenenenen. thinnnnn. thean. thinneeanneeanneeanneeananan. theananananananananananananan. theananananan. theenenenenen it comes to this, this Mernan-Henson lady, I kind of want to wrap up this whole Paul Benowit's case and this whole Paul Benow's story here really quickly. It's hard to figure out anything about this. Mernan lady was because Mernan is also the name of a famous actress and model who won Miss USA in 1953. So it's practically impossible. Yeah. So it's impossible to figure out who she was.

Starting point is 01:20:52 You can't find anything on her. It's hard to research and figure out anything about her. But I'm willing to bet that she was sent by the intelligence community directly to give him Miss and disinformation and it's a perfect cover too because you can't find out any information about who she is right and We get into the whole full swing of this this dole say that's so interesting what you're saying started to cut you off. That's exactly what and Cony is crazy, but that's exactly why why he said they made Black Panther Marvel made Black Panther so you couldn't look up the Black Panthers. So every time you look up Black Panthers it goes in a movie and not the movement. Yep. That's an old tactic. Yeah, they did the same thing with looking glass as well. They did the Alice and Wonderland. That's an old tactic. They did the same thing with looking glass as well.

Starting point is 01:21:48 They did the Alice in Wonderland through the looking glass. So now if you try and look up anything about Project Looking Glass, you get nothing but Alice, they's the only about Alice and Wonderland stuff. Walt Disney as that Frozen movie can't look him, that he's supposed to he's frozen and stuff like that. Same theory where they just made up the new frozen, frozen pops-so. Walt Disney Frozen, you can't look it up. That's so interesting, dude. And so they named this agent named after a famous actress that you put in her name, all you find

Starting point is 01:22:21 out is the famous actress and not the the agent that is so interesting dude Yeah, so really it makes sense to me that this Mernat Henson lady is an agent that was sent to Paul Benowitz to Probably by the NSA because Air Force wasn't technically involved at that time of the Mernet-Henson case, but I wouldn't put it past them either. But hergiving Paul Benowis all this information and later evolving into a lot of the mythology and a lot of the lore surrounding UFOs and extraterrestrials, in 1981, a letter to US Senator Paul Schmidt, Paul Benowitz wrote a letter and explained that he knew the location of this alien base in northern New Mexico and the northeast of Dulce, New Mexico, and

Starting point is 01:23:14 he knew someone in the military, here's where it comes. He knew someone in the military that made a deal with the aliens several years ago, giving the Indian land battle and many other things in the apparent assurance of safety to the aliens in trade for technology, in the form of an atomic-powered ship. This whole theory came from the mis-information surrounding Paul Benowitz. In 1984, Benowicz again talked about the conflict at the Dulce base, led to the closure of this alien human base, which was completely made up fiction by the NSA, which would later be repeated, the Dulce base would

Starting point is 01:24:09 be regurgitated by John Lear, Bill Cooper, and most famously Phil Schneider. Now, now we know where all these stories come from, and that's what Bill Cooper always talked about in the mid-80s, was a contract with the U.S. government and extra trash drills for technology. But all Bill Cooper did, he just changed it just slightly and added that it was Eisenhower that made this contract and sealed the deal. Hold on, did you just say Bill Cooper is full of it too? Wow. He got the information from Paul Binowitz. Ryder Lee, he chose violence today. Damn!

Starting point is 01:24:49 Well, I mean, when you see where these things originate from, you have no choice but come to the conclusion that that's where all these people got this information from, I mean, Phil Schen, Paul Benowitz was out in the UFO circuit. He was talking to all these people. He was talking to Bill Cooper. He was talking to, uh, what's John Lear? He was talking to all these people about the, the miss, and unknowingly, the deception and the miss and disinformation that he got from Murna Hansen, the NSA hacking into his computer, breaking into his home, replacing his computer with an NSA modified computer to make him believe that he was talking to

Starting point is 01:25:34 the extra trash trashills were giving him all this information, right? I mean, this it's the only conclusion that you can really come to is where this folklore and where this mythology starts, and it starts with Paul Benowit. And he contacted all these UFO researchers, John Muir, Bill Cooper, senators, Harrison Smith, and began to spread his ideas regarding the Dulce-A-Base with others in the UFO-logical community. the UFO-I with others in the Uphological community. And the UFO mythology that came directly from the NSA and what I believe was an intelligence

Starting point is 01:26:19 agent in Marnahenson and Air Force agents was born. And Paul Benowitz suffered many psychiatric hospitalizations after 1980 due to the Air Force and the NSA deception operations. And he ended up passing away in June, on June 23rd, 2003, in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Wow. Wow. That you came, dude, you came loaded for bear, dog.

Starting point is 01:26:58 Damn, baby. And everything that I just said is all documented. It's all documented in, uh, the 2005 book, Project Beta, the story of Paul Benowitz National Security and the creation of the modern UFO myth, Mark Pinkerinton's book called Mirageman, that was published in 2010, and then the book was also adapted into a 2013 documentary under the same name, Paul Benowit. I mean, uh, uh, under the same the same the beta. I mean, uh, the the the the th. th. th. th. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, the the the th. Yeah, the the the the th. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. Yeah, the th. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. th. th. B. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, t. I, t. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I the th. I t. I' I' I' I' I've, I've, I've t. I've to. I've to. I've to. to. today. to. today. also adapted into a 2013 documentary under the same name, Paul Benoway, I mean, under the same name as Mirage Ben, and that has former special agent U.S. of the Air Force Richard Doty. You know, straight up said that in the 1980s he was tasked with hoaxing documents and feeding false information to UFO researchers, including Linda Moulton, Howe, Bill Moulton, their, and, and, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I mean, th, th, th in the 1980s he was tasked with hoaxing documents and feeding false information

Starting point is 01:27:46 to UFO researchers including Linda Moulton Howe, Bill Moore and Paul Benowitz. Wow. Wow. Rider Lee, he ain't fucking around dude. He says fuck your sacred cow. Okay. Damn dude he just want to alien on a cow right now mutilated it. Uh, Ryder, you're the man. One more time, tell him where they could find you brother. Rates by Jans on YouTube and any and all podcast platforms you can find my information. And I would, uh, I appreciate you guys for having me on, really appreciate it, we appreciate you having an open mind and me being able to come on

Starting point is 01:28:30 here and just talk about the research because I think that's the most important thing. And again, I can't tell people what they experienced or what they didn't experience it, but I can let people know the government involvement, NSA and military involvement in the deception and the mythology of UFOs and extraterraceals. I appreciate each one of you gentlemen and I hope the viewers and listeners really liked it. Well my question. Well I got one last one. Okay. What do you have any thoughts on? Ononakie? I know that's like not modern UFO, but is do you any thoughts on them being real messing with the human DNA at all? No? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. the. Okay. the. the. the. the. Okay. A. Okay. Okay. the. Okay. Okay. Okay. I. I. I, the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the human DNA at all no the Ananaki? Yeah. I think that I don't think that they were

Starting point is 01:29:12 gods I think that they were just human beings. I think that we are you a guy do you believe in God? I believe in that there is I mean I don't think that the universe was just created out of nothing. I think put it to you that that that that that that that that that that the that that the that the that the the th th th th th. I th. I don't the th. I don't th. I don't the th. I don't the th. Do th. Do the th. Do the the the the the thi th. Do th. Do the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. I th. I th. No. No. I th. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. is, I mean I don't think that the universe was just created out of nothing. I can put it to you that way, I don't think that all this stuff just happened by chance. I'm more under the impression that it's highly possible in some sort of simulation that we're in. That's an advanced computer simulation. Rider Lee, he chose violence today. All right, let's break down this episode. Damn, dog, I'm gonna be honest with you, man.

Starting point is 01:29:50 This is how the episode went for me. Very dense, a lot of information up front, a lot of names, a lot of data, and then someone pulls out heavy alternative, all to, you know what I'm talking about. Art are artillery and just starts blasting away dude That's crazy Hey if you had someone called called bill Cooper a siop on your bingo card you won today. You definitely won today. That was crazy So Johnny I should a question you were asked me. I didn't have a question. Yeah. You did ask me a question before the comment.

Starting point is 01:30:28 I said you would love calling, asking people if they believe in God. And to me, that's like, I think a lot of people think that's like a personal thing, right? I just know it's a lot of people when you ask they're like uncomfortable I can tell and then but you just you love asking that question I get why I ask the uncomfortable questions Johnny it's the kind of thing I want to know I want to know anybody I meet if they believe in God I want to know that because it says love about the reason I ask that is because it like okay so you don't believe in aliens from other planets do you believe there's a higher power or a God that create everything? Or do you believe this is just all random? I think it's very important question to ask.

Starting point is 01:31:12 When you're... Yeah, but I mean you ask a lot of people that question. You know, I think God all the time, dude. What do you think, what do you, does that change anything about UFOs and UAPs? Well, I've always thought there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was the notion that does that change anything about what you think about? UFOs and UAPs? Well, I've always thought there was the notion that they come from other plants as a giant sire. I've always thought that and this just I mean dude, it just becomes how deep do we go down the rabbit hole? Right, but do you think the military has all that technology? What's that? Do you think it's our military that's just putting all those things up there?

Starting point is 01:31:48 You think it's all their technology? I do. You don't think it's even like the spiritual element then? You just think it's just military. Well, I mean, I think, I think, I they they they they're, I they're, I they're, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, they're, they're, I, they're, they're, I, I, they're, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, they're, they're, I, I, they're, they're, they're, they're, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's just, thin, thin. th. th. thin. th. thin. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's just, th we never really get to get to because everything's a military crap is what the media focuses on. It's like what about this things that Ryan Bletso's dad calls down from the sky? Those are the military you know like they're just waiting for him and they no I had that I think fault I mean I don't know bro I again I believe the I believe they. I believe they're seen it I've just just just just just just just just just just just just just just the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. I'm just they. I they. their just their just their just their just their just their just their just their just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. the. I think I think I think I think I think I think I think. the. the. the. the. I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think. the. the. I think I think I think I think I think I again, I believe the, I believe them. So I believe they're seeing it.

Starting point is 01:32:26 I mean, I've seen videos of it. There's people that they just had a, I don't know what it was. I saw it on Facebook, I think. They just had a whole group down there on the beach, you know, like a tour. And then that night you can see them they come in their their they come they come they come that's the military, just waiting up. Yep, Mr. Bletz I was calling us guys, Scramble the fighters, you know, and then they just zoom out there. No way, right? I mean, I believe that, I believe that, I believe what he sees is authentic to angels. See, I was, it's kind of like a little sad to me, for me, because I grew up with like ancient aliens and I really at one point I really was like they're also believe in Chupacabras.

Starting point is 01:33:06 I did at one point this cover channel and planet Earth got to me. But no no for all though I kind of ruins it for me because like you know at one point you're kind of like any bravable tenth planet the like I'm not a type of stuff and then you come in here this and you're like dude this is all government. All those, all the abductions, if they did, they did operation midnight, they can definitely abduct someone and then just be like, go run with it. Just like Bob Lazar, how do you know they, like you said, they didn't let him see something and go tell,

Starting point is 01:33:34 go on Joe Rogans and let everybody know. I agree, I mean, that's my opinion, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th mean, that's my opinion, I mean, but I'm a god guy. You were never, uh, aliens were from outer space. No, when I was young and dinosaurs exists and all that, all that stuff. Hey, Xavier, do you think you asked the question today? Because you weren't listening as you were battling the sleepy monster? Do you think you were doing at that some point? You literally asked the question of what he just got done asking. No, I was asking him because like, who was going to go asleep. It's okay.

Starting point is 01:34:11 You can say it. You were asleep. It's no problem. We all sleep. It's early. We started earlier, like, I didn't get to. Like, I didn't get to. get like how much did he push back did he go like on newscast did you make go on newspapers and fact-checked himself did you let people know like you know like you know I did not see a us what is it a spaceship or a saucer in the

Starting point is 01:34:33 sky I mean I was wondering like how much how much did he push back I mean yeah I guess that's a great question that's a great question that's a great question would you guys anything anything else, anything else, Sintra? I thought it was a great episode. I thought it started very dense and then it got, it went fucking nuts. No, I want to see all the citations. I might email him actually. I want to read a lot of his primary sources because a lot, I mean, if, and I have no reason not to believe, to believe, to believe, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the thi, to be to be th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a thi. I was a thi. I was a th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I have a th. I have a great, I have a great. I have a great. I have a th. I have a th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I have th. I have th.that we trusted if what he's saying is the truth though and that's that would surprise me greatly. You know the names he named, especially

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Starting point is 01:38:52 Fisher claims he has been turned down by three agencies because they said they just weren't looking for white men. Do you think it was justified? Now this is the guy, if you're listening. He's actually I really like this guy. He's a great th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the the th. thea. thi. thea. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the. the. the. this is the guy, if you're listening. He's actually, I really like this guy. He's a comedian. He's a great comic and he's totally right. Like everything he's saying is right. No, yeah, of course, yeah, I mean that's why I think it's great.

Starting point is 01:39:13 But he's there's some kind of panel and he's kind of in the panel that seems to be on the other side of the issue of course For me to be told we can't represent you you don't have the chance to now compete for jobs because you're white yes or no was that no was that that no was that that the the the the the the the other side. I think that what is described by you... Don't give me your little bubble rap. Yes or not. Become mumble rap. You can't get that job because you're white does not sound right to me. It's also illegal, right? It's also illegal, right?

Starting point is 01:39:55 It's not he's making this up. But let me say this. He recorded the call with an agent. He claims he he he he he he he he he claimed he he claimed he he he cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cl cla. He he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he the call the call. He c. He c. He the call he the call he the call he the call he the call he the call he the call. He that he that he the call. He the call. He the call. He is the call like, explicit that they're not taking on any, like white men, or is it like, case by case? If on-camera talent stand-up, probably not. Okay, so no, so no white men are allowed for on-camera stuff. I guess it's right now where it stands,, but like yeah, the changing the year depending on if casting directors, that's not the feedback anymore. Or not the casting director. I love the picture in the back.

Starting point is 01:40:32 The soldier man. It's like, this is what we're looking for. What do we do about heart surgeons? Like how far do we want to go with this? And he goes on like that. But the call is with a fascinating part. Listen, Johnny, this is my whole thing in comedy right now. Okay? There's like two people doing this. And maybe, okay, I'll say there's four people right now, five that are saying anything. And it's like Joe Rogan, me, Jeff Dye, Owen Benjamin, and Josh Denny. And you could have a lot of opinions on each one of those guys, okay?

Starting point is 01:41:11 Here's the thing. Here's why everything I do on stage is based in reality. It's because what that guy is saying, every single one of your favorite fucking comics, all these fucking guys have complained about the exact same thing. And you know what they've said? Nothing. They say nothing. And they sit quietly.

Starting point is 01:41:38 Even the ones who don't need this shit. Never come out and say a fucking thing. And that's my problem. The world is burning right now and everybody wants to do fart jokes. Like that's my biggest problem with how dumb comedy's gotten right now. It's gotten into really keep it simple, stupid. Which most of your people who are blowing up on Instagram right now, most of them if this was 20 years ago wouldn't work at all. Yeah, a lot of them that this was 20 years ago wouldn't work at all.

Starting point is 01:42:06 Oh yeah, a lot of them aren't even in comedy, really. And before you say, Sam, you didn't work, I had a show 16, 17 years ago on television, so save it, okay? I was actually doing it. Back when you, back when you, there were actually suits. I love it, you're so quick. You're debating yourself. No, no, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, th. th. the, th. th. the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Sam, th. Sam, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. Sam, th. Sam, th. Sam, th. Sam, th. Sam, th. Sam, th. Sam, th. Sam, th. Sam, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th it, you're so quick. You're debating yourself in your head. No, no, I just know what people are saying. You guys don't understand. It's like, I got rejected very early and I still got on television. And every time I got on TV, it would do really well. And then I was, again, the earliest form of this,

Starting point is 01:42:36 which is this isn the naughty show. And their little, their literal line was, we love the show, we don't like Sam. So anyways. Here's who those opportunities are going to, by the way, because I saw this story right after I saw this Dr. Phil thing, headline from the Daily Mail, Megan Rapino to produce lesbian soccer show based on novel clut. With wife, their playing toy. cleat cute with wife Sue Bird as US women's national team World Cup winners

Starting point is 01:43:05 life after her playing career starts to take shape. So these are where the jobs are going. No Johnny. And this is what we're talking about. This is what we talked about today when we were texting about ESPN yesterday. Yesterday was one of the greatest days in basketball NBA history. The games were all insane. They were insane. It's exactly what you want in basketball. Yes, the refs were involved.

Starting point is 01:43:34 Anytime on a playoff, one team gets way up, especially if the other team has players that the NBA likes. Luca, right? They don't want to see Luca get. It's the best, and I've known this for like decades watching the NBA. It's the best betting opportunity in basketball is when a team like that gets up by 20, 30 points. You can always bet on that coming back down. Yeah, yeah. Every time. If you have a team right, like the Clippers that's a second team in the market, right. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their. their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. the best. the best. the best. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their best. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. the best. the best. the best. the best best best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. their best second team in the market, right? And you have going up against a team that has someone like Luca that the NBA can't stop talking about, right?

Starting point is 01:44:08 That is the future of they're not gonna let him get blown out, dude. No way. They're not gonna let it happen. Never happened. So anyways, it's, the New York game was amazing. With bell palsy, thi, th Like, nobody, nobody's going, how did you get Bell's palsy, dude? Are you dumb enough to get another vaccine? Did you do that? Uh-oh. So, so we had that. And what did ESPN start with? Candace Parker's retirement? I can't believe that. And not just, like, a quick, like, hey man, give it it up she's going out like a three

Starting point is 01:44:46 minute interview with an NBA player nobody's ever heard I didn't know she was still playing basketball I got to be honest like it's just it's just so f-eff and again if you want to talk about her retiring it's fine you don't open with it you don't open with and then the second biggest story they want to talk about was Caitlin Kark's first first fucking practice that's what they start th they they they they they they they th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that's they they they they they're they're they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they tha tha tha tha to tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' tha' thi thi thi thi they they they they they they they they they they they the second biggest story they wanted to talk about was Caitlin Karks first first fucking practice. That's what they started with. And then they teased big night in the with the Knicks and the Philadelphia. Dude, the Knicks were like the third story. It's crazy man. So stupid. So this is something not news that happened to me and I just thought it was hilarious. So Uber the other day I ordered some food right. And about about. It. It. It. It th. It th. It th. It th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the th. the th. the th. the the th. the the the the the th. the the th. th. th. the th. th. th. the first. the first. the first. That's, the first. That's, the first. That's, the first. That's, the first. That's, the first. That's, the first. That's, the first. That's, the first. That's, the first. the first. the first. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the first. First, the the first. First, the the the thea that happened to me and I just thought it was hilarious. So Uber the other day, I ordered some food, right? And about 10 minutes later, I get this pop-up on my phone. And this is what it was right here. Check this out. Pick it up, get it faster, get $13.50 back.

Starting point is 01:45:39 So they are asking me now, I go from paying them to deliver food to me to working for them. That is so crazy. They now want me to pick up my own food that I'm working for Uber now. Dude that is so crazy. So you're just paying them to put the order in for you. That's all they want? And they take their fee and then they give me the $13 that the driver would get. You always talk about how they've inserted themselves into the podcast process. Now they just insert themselves into ordering food.

Starting point is 01:46:10 And the restaurants, because they aren't getting a big enough cut, a lot of the restaurants have jacked up their prices just on the mobile apps, on Uber eats. So you're paying more already just for everybody except Uber. The only time I ever use Uber is if I live, if I'm in a city, I don't know anything. Oh yeah, yeah, but if I'm gonna order, I go right to the restaurant. Yeah, yeah, and unless I don't have to. I give them the money.

Starting point is 01:46:32 Yeah, but think about that. I went from paying them to bring me food to look at the Taylor Swift dance that's been going on? I mean, it's just awful. Uh, this tweet went viral of a guy saying, uh, she's, she's, she's, she's, we go deep home, boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron.

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