Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #856: The Broligarchy of the Surveillance State with Jason Bassler

Episode Date: February 7, 2025

Jason Bassler of the Free Thought Project joins us this week to talk about the modern tech oligarchs -- "broligarchs" -- and how this may be a new paradigm in American politics. We also discuss the rebranding of the War on Drugs and the War on Terror, and whether Trump is truly "anti-war." Listen to us recap this week's headlines at 01:41:58! Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/415fDfY Check out Sam Tripoli's new special "Why is Everybody Gettin Quiet?" that drops Oct 15th on Rumble.com, Twitter X, Youtube and SamTripoli.com! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now! Go to samtripoli.gold and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show. If you want to feel your best, head to GetSoul.com and use code "TINFOILHAT" for 30-percent off your order! Get your confidence back with visibly thicker, fuller hair at www.hims.com/tinfoilhat!  You can find Jason Bassler at www.thefreethoughtproject.com. You can find his podcast there, and he is also on X at @jasonbassler1 and on Instagram at @jason.e.bassler! Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Thursday At 2:30pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Want to see Sam Tripoli live? Get tickets at SamTripoli.com: Columbus, Ohio:  Tin Foil Hat Comedy Live At the Columbus Funnybones Feb 6th https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/75622775/tin-foil-hat-comedy-night-columbus-funny-bone-comedy-club-columbus   Pottstown, Pa: Feb 7th:  Tin Foil Hat Comedy Live At Soul Joels Feb 7th https://www.souljoels.com/shop/tickets/swarmtankspecialevent/   Morristown, Nj: Tin Foil Hat live at The Dojo Of Comedy Feb 8th https://www.tiffscomedy.com/events/103149   Phoenix, Az:  The House Of Comedy Arizona Feb 27th- March 1st https://aztickets.houseofcomedy.net/event/sam-tripoli-9938398e   Please Check Out Nick Alvear's internet: Website: https://www.goodlion.tv Twitter: https://x.com/GoodLionTV Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goodliontv/   Please check out SamTripoli.com for all things Sam Tripoli. Please check out Sam Tripoli's Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/ Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/

Tin foil hat. Yo, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tin Foil Hat. We go deep home, boys. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.

There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind blown? Yeah. Yeah, I'd love to get your mind blown? Yeah. Yeah, I'd love to do your podcast.

It'd be great. My schedule has been kind of crazy, but here we are. I'm, I love it. It's a blessing. I feel like it's, it's crazy times. I love following your Twitter. Cause I feel like I align with you a lot, uh, politically. Um, I feel like.

Like, I don't know, I would describe myself as an, politically, an atheist nihilist. I believe in nothing and I trust nobody. And that's kind of where I am right now. Even if there's little things I like that Trump is doing, I have Whitney Webb whispering in my ear constantly, not to get too excited about it. And that's what I like about you, because you do call out both sides. And I think that's why people like you are very important. I don't like people to get like totally black-pilled, but it's like, you can be excited about these things, but you also have to go, is there another shoe that's dropping? What are your thoughts on that? That makes too much sense, man. Yeah.

There is a fine, there is a fine line there without being black pill, you know, but you also have to be skeptical, you know, and like, it's feel like that part of it's. Disappeared from the right completely, which I guess is to be expected, you know? Yeah, for sure. So, um, yeah, we were just talking about this USA aid stuff and that, like how crazy it is. What is your take right now on where Twitter is?

Like in some cases it's, it seems pretty open, but then in other cases it's like, is there control? Yeah, there is certainly a level of control. Absolutely. And obviously the old regimes gone and we have the free speech absolutist, you know, Elon Musk in there now, but it doesn't mean that we're still seeing what we should be seeing or what we expect at least from a social media platform. And, you know, I'm from the old school, I'm from the golden age of social media and it's just a big departure from all that. You know, Musk has said

himself, you know, it's freedom of speech but not freedom of reach. And I think that kind of aligns with like what we're saying, you know, anybody seems to be kind of critical of the new regime or anybody that they kind of want to put in a corner as being a leftist. I wouldn't say anybody, but a lot of people, especially people speaking out about the Gaza situation. I've seen a lot of people complaining about censorship and the lack of reach. And even for my own personal encounters, like our free thought project Twitter account, man, it's like it might as well does not exist. I mean, we get so little reach there. Yeah, mine doesn't exist anymore. I'm still suspended. I would love to get my ex back.

Well, Johnny, it's like you've been ex-communicated on Twitter and on Coinbase and you're not even that bad. Obviously, one of us here is the most provocative, I will say. I mean, it was honestly, I think on Twitter, I got tangled up with that guy who's got, who has some connections to Ukraine. And he was like, I'm going to destroy you now. And he, he did, he nuked. That's so crazy to me. That's so crazy that anyone has that kind of power to get you ran off. But you do see that a lot, you know, a lot of these, uh, you know, Israel very much has

that where they have just this bar army that they can You know my friend Leonardo, Joanie some people think she's a ghost a little too hard to pay. I understand what she's doing You know and she got reported and doxxed by a giant Indian group who just went after her So that is definitely out there. That is something we have to deal with when it comes to these, um, comes to just the internet. But I do feel in a weird way that Twitter right now has the feel of old school YouTube, right? Like old school where you could kind of like a lot more craziness is on there than, than

we have through Jack. So I don't think it's totally locked down. Right. Uh, but there are, I think once you start criticizing certain groups, certain things that, that we, you do start to see the levers of control to be pulled. Sure. No, I agree with that completely. And, um, it's not perfect. Absolutely.

But it does seem to be probably one of the best options that we have right now. And there's a bunch of smaller social media platforms, but they just don't have the reach. You can't reach the same amount of people. So again, we're kind of backed into a corner here. And I do think, though, that there has been a ripple effect with Elon coming in.

I mean, we just saw Zuckerberg, what was it, a couple weeks ago, announcing the end of fact checkers and, you know, apparently restoring some reach for news outlets and news publishers and stuff. So I do feel like there has been some good with Elon coming in, but I think he's far from what we would expect to be like a free speech absolutist. And I know there's boundaries there. You know, you can't be posting like illegal stuff or like child porn or stuff like that. I get that. I'm not asking for that, but there does seem like an ideological bent that is like involved with some of the moderation policies even still.

Yeah. I mean, well, one thing you can't criticize Elon, you know, that seems to be one thing. Yes. Maybe it's, it maybe it's, you know, it's his, it's his toy, I guess, you know, you pay that much money. You get to, you know, you get to control it. And we've seen people take them out. I just, you know, I don't get shocked when people get censored as somebody who came into the space, you know, right around Hillary Clinton's election, when she was

stealing the, you know, the primary from Bernie Sanders, you know, right around Hillary Clinton's election when she was stealing the, you know, the primary from Bernie Sanders. You know, I just saw a giant censorship, I mean, just a boom to the point where, and maybe you might see this as well, that, you know, old school conspiracy theorists, obviously I'm not David Icke, but, you know, I've been in the game almost 10 years in terms of content creating the conspiracy world, old school conspiracy theorists, content creators, they still seem to not like us as these new guys kind of come in. They seem to have a little bit more free range, but yeah, because we need cap Hillary Clinton because we called out the pizza gate stuff, regardless of what your opinion on that is, they seem to have still have a real eye on us and a real hatred towards what we did in like 2015. What are your thoughts on

that? Well, don't get me started on the censorship stuff, man, because we've dealt with a lot of censorship. I don't know how long you've been following me or the Free Thought Project, but several years ago, we were taken down by both Facebook and Twitter on the same day We had amassed around 6 million fans altogether And we had a whole network of pages and accounts and stuff. So to me. Yeah, it is a clusterfuck. Absolutely, dude But there are like certain elements of this which it does seem like, you know Again, there are some things that are picking up now like Facebook all of a sudden is like my reach on Facebook,

which I thought was completely dead, is now actually doing okay again. And my police accountability stuff like which I thought, you know, after the George Floyd stuff, like nobody was really as interested in it. We're seeing kind of a reemergence of that as well. But you're right, dude, you know, I think it was a right around COVID, around the health freedom movement is when we started to see like these kind of new players enter the game, enter the scene and they have a lot of momentum and they still have a lot of momentum. And you know, they built big audiences very fast

calling out all the crazy COVID policy stuff. And a lot of them, you know, tend to align with the right. So it seems like that's kind of like where all the rage is at on Twitter right now. And there's some decent sized left wing and even like moderate and libertarian accounts on Twitter. But if you want to be in the in crowd, you're definitely on the right. Yeah, that's that stuff. It's really weird how that kind of like swings right it kind of so you know ever since Obama got in you know it seems like I wouldn't say conservative is punk rock but this kind

of like desire not to play into the Marxist communist kind of playbook that we see like on display and almost all forms of art. I know DI is kind of getting its ass kicked right now for I believe good reason. I also believe it's being blamed for things that isn't really its fault, but it's kind of the fall guy. And they're just like, all these fires, lesbians. It's really like, oh, well, you completely allowed this situation to manifest by pulling all the water, you know, destroying the budget and all that stuff. It's a bunch of lesbians. That's the problem.

You know, when in Lahaina, it was all guys and the same thing happened. So I think that's punk rock. I think what is punk rock right now is common sense. Sure. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, it's that counterintuitive kind of information because when anything goes mainstream, there's like an automatic counterculture push

away from it, you know? And a lot of the progressive kind of archetypes definitely became more mainstream over the past, geez, I don't even know, what, eight years or so? Even during the Trump administration, the first Trump administration, a lot of this stuff was kind of ramping up. So, and you started off this conversation by saying,

well, we can't always point at Trump's bat, like the bat stuff he's doing. I think a lot of what he's doing, at least on the cultural level, will have some positive effects down the road. We might not see it immediately, but he just freed Ross. There's all these other things too that he's doing that seemed to be like aligned with What we would at least as libertarians consider myself a libertarian to be like some positive steps forward

but there's also other things which you're just saying Whitney Webb and you know, my colleague Derek Rose and Ryan over at the last American Vega bond, you know Those guys are like on the tip of the spear right now talking about all the other side of shit that isn't being discussed. And so I'm just a little worried that we're getting into this like right wing circle jerk and like nobody's really paying attention to like what exactly is happening behind the scenes because we're all just too busy cheering, you know? And we're live from the Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Studio.

That's right. Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Studio. Sam Tripley.gold. Live from the Wise Wolf Gold and Silver studio. That's right Wise Wolf Gold and Silver go to Sam Trimbley dot gold use a promo code Kin foil and get in on the precious metals games for as little as fifty dollars a month. He's an in there at outlaw He's the co-founder of the free thought project founder of the blue the police the police which I love Okay, he is Jason Bassler and we're excited to have him on Jason. For those who may not be familiar with you, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? Yeah, brother. Well, first of all, thanks for having me on.

I know we tried to set up this conversation. We've been working on it. We've been working on it and uh, it's a crazy windy day here. So if I do get disconnected, my apologies, but uh, hopefully it doesn't impede the conversation. And also before I get my little bit of an origin story here, I just want to say thank you, Sam, for all the retweets, brother. I really appreciated all the support.

Sometimes I'll just be going down my wall and I'll be like, why is that one doing so well? Oh, Sam retweeted it. Like, thanks, bro. Yes. No problem, brother. We gotta help each other out. So true, especially the bigger accounts.

I don't think that's something that really gets enough airtime, airplay. But yeah, man, I grew up in the bigger counts. And I don't think that's something that really gets enough air time, airplay. But yeah, man, I grew up in the Bay Area. I grew up in the Santa Cruz area. And just naturally growing up in that area, I was interested in like punk rock, skateboarding, surfing, all that kind of stuff. That was kind of my background.

I played in punk rock bands. All they really knew was like, growing up in my teens was like, Republicans are bad. That was basically it, you know. But I around 2011 had just started to kind of tune into what was going on. Just like you, I think we've probably been in this for a little over a decade now. And I don't know if you remember the Occupy Wall Street movement or not, but that was kind of, yeah, more or less like kind of the catalyst that got me interested in all this stuff. And I was doing some activist stuff before that. But

again, like I didn't really have like an ideological foundation. So I was very much inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement. What was going on online, I was starting to see citizen journalists like Luke Radowski, Dan Dix, Adam K Kokash, people like those, those guys out in the streets. They're doing man on the streets interviews. They were backing politicians into corners doing guerrilla journalism, stuff like that. So it inspired me, man. It totally inspired me. I wanted to get involved somehow. And before that, I already spent a lot of time on social media. I know everybody talks about MySpace, but like I'm pre my space. Like I was on Friendster way back. Oh, damn dude. Has anyone checked in on that guy? He's doing cause social media is everywhere

and that guy kinda came up with that in a weird kind of way. Yeah. A real way. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Which is kind of weird because we can, and then we'll get, I want to get back to your, so everyone knows where to find you, but like it of weird because we and then we'll get I want to get back to your so everyone knows where to find you But like it's weird because we have this theory that social media is a DARPA invention Hmm, but yeah, here's a guy that created Friendster and just it just didn't take off and he must be going nuts I mean, they don't really invent anything do they they just co-opt things? So they yeah, they just saw a trend and then co-opted it for sure. There's not activity there

It's what you're always saying Sam about how they don't really have the creative spark, you know They just lizards don't have creativity brains. They don't get rest know how to destroy So, uh, yeah back to back to my little origin story here I see a Ron Paul sign in the back behind Johnny there. Yeah, that's my 2008 sign right there. Yeah, bro. So, yeah, you're definitely more of an OG than I am. I got in right before the 2012 campaign, but during the Occupy Wall Street movement stuff,

I found Ron Paul and I'm so glad that I did because he really was kind of like the person who steered me into libertarianism and I take that back. I steered myself into it as more of his writings that inspired me. And so yeah, man, I was doing like banner hangs for Ron Paul. I was doing like tabling. I was doing all this stuff out in the streets and I kind of just had like this epiphany at one point. I was like, man, like, this is great. I'm definitely like interacting with people, but I could reach so many more people online, you know?

So, uh, yeah, not too long after that, I started some Facebook pages, started some Tumblr accounts Tumblr. Yeah. I don't know if you guys remember that one. It used to be fire, bro. And then it just, now it's kind of, I don't even ever go too far left. Or like middle school girls hang out now it's yeah yeah yeah exactly it was fire back in the day dude like again

when you talk about this golden era of the internet that we were blessed to be a part of by the way you mentioned someone who I don't think it's enough credit and I just like to briefly bring up his name again Adam Kokesh Adam versus the man that guy that guy was fearless I mean he got arrested for he's been on the show yeah he has a long time ago I don't know what I haven't seen anything you should check into it you want me to go to his wedding I just couldn't get there I would love to find out what he does last time I heard he's you remember you hosted that debate show with him too remember yeah with him and Ben Glebe yeah yeah Bangalore. Yeah, that was funny.

Yeah. But anyway, props to Adam Kokesh. I'm a big fan of his and I miss that guy. Yeah. Yeah. I miss the old Adam as well. He kind of went off the reservation. And some people say that he kind of lost his mind. So I don't know. I won't weigh in with my opinion on that one. But definitely check.

We love you, Adam. We love you, buddy. Definitely check in for sure. So around that time during Occupy Wall Street, I was witnessing a lot of police brutality. And I was like, what the fuck? This isn't something I'm familiar with. It raised a lot of red flags. To me, I was always told, and I definitely genuinely believe this, that cops were here to protect our rights to serve this the community and all that nonsense So basically at that point I just had enough like I had a fire inside that lit and I was like, you know What I'm just gonna do whatever I can using the free tools in front of me with social media to hold police accountable

however, I can and That was it man. That's all it took. I started police the police in 2012 a year later and That was it, man. That's all it took. I started Police the Police in 2012, a year later. And very shortly, within a few months, that thing started to take off. It started to blow up because there was a huge demand for police accountability information that wasn't necessarily like couched in some of the leftists kind of movement, leftist rhetoric. And so libertarians are starting to see like the militarization of the militarization of police, um, the police state that was kind of starting to form. And so a lot of people were kind of concerned and worried about what was

happening. So, uh, that immediately took off. And around that same time, I met my business partner and the editor in chief for the free thought project, Mr. Matt Agarist, who you guys should definitely have on the show sometime, but, uh, down, let's do it. Yeah, yeah, no, he's a good guy, great writer. And we decided we were both working for a website at that point. We decided we could do kind of the same internet journalism stuff and do it better and do it with our own flavor of information and whatnot. So in 2013, we started the Free Thought Project.

And man, within a short period of time, we were rolling bro. Like the page, the accounts, the website, like everything was blowing up and taking off. And again, yeah, the golden era of social media, like we had full organic reach. They weren't throttling us, they weren't shadow banning us. So there was a desire, there was a hunger for this type of information

and people really, really wanted it. So we were kind desire, there was a hunger for this type of information and people really, really wanted it. So we were kind of just feeding that market demand and we were able to, within a very short time, put together a team of seven different writers, a whole social media team, a video editing team. We're reaching millions of people, man, like upwards of like 30, 40 million people a week, like just blowing and mainstream media out of the water. And I know it sounds crazy. I have all the screenshots. I have all the receipts like hit me up. I'll show them to you. Yeah, we were, you know, bringing in like 20, 30,000 new followers a week. Like it was rolling, man. We were thriving. And I think it was in 2017, we even had like a billion video views.

So like things were, were definitely going well for us. And during that time, like we were the pioneers of alternative media, you know, where there's a group of us, there was the anti-media, there was press for truth, there was punk rock libertarians, we kind of had this whole network that we would all share information with, share posts with and stuff. And starting around like 2017, then at 2017, 2018, we started to notice there was a lot more shadow manning going on,

a lot more censorship. Of course, that's when the Trump fake news narrative came in. We started seeing fact checkers, you know, at play. And everything started to change. And by October of 2018, we were taken down by both Facebook and Twitter as I was just mentioning and we lost six million fans within a couple hours. So it was definitely coordinated as you can imagine you know Twitter and Facebook like

how do they and there was more too I think we got a YouTube strike that same day as well. But yeah man it was devastating we had to let go of our entire team. And that's kind of like where the story climaxes. But luckily, just recently, even though we've been putting in the work over the years to kind of build up our fans and kind of build up a new social media presence, just recently we've garnered some funding again, We had an angel investor come in. And so the story arc is still continuing, thank God. And we're putting the band back together and kind of getting back on our feet here. So the story isn't over yet.

But through all that shit, man, I basically kind of realized that the most important thing here is we started this really believing that we could change the world with social media, but like we kind of found like that Aldous Huxley quote, it's like, you know, I wanted to change the world. But I've only found that the only thing that you could actually change is yourself, you know, and so over the past few years, just kind of, yeah, I've gotten more inward, done my own work. And as much as I love sharing the information and trying to change hearts and minds like it's Increasingly more difficult with the way that social media is set up now, so I'll shut up for a second, but that's kind of no dude It's fire, bro. It's so it's so funny I'll go on podcasts and I'll just talk and at the end I'll be like I didn't shut up. I'm sorry They're like, it's great, bro. It's great. The worst is when someone doesn't talk. So it's great, dude Don't don't even worry about that

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I love it, dude. And you know, it's great to talk to somebody like you who has been through it, because I can't express enough to people what it is like when you are shadow banned. And we used to get like 200,000, 150,000 views on our YouTube channel. I mean, we were cooking with gas. The show was this culturally phenomenon of conspiracy and comedy, and you hadn't seen that. I'm sure there were other shows, but nobody had seen it. It was bringing in these giant comics on the show, Joey Diaz and all these really great comics and people were really resonating with it.

And then it became serious. Like we started getting real people on the show and that became a big thing and bang, just the hammer gets dropped. And I'm too dumb to like that. Yeah. Nobody liked it. Like you talk about everyone going after you we had one guest come on talk about a particular family in which we do not mention on the show ever and Within one week actually the almost on the same day Facebook Twitter YouTube and Facebook Twitter YouTube and I forget the other one There's four of them just bang just nope. Oh Apple Apple was the other one. There's four of them just bang, just nope.

Oh, Apple, Apple was the other one. They said nope and they either took down our channel, banned us, told us we were in jail, like all at one time. So it definitely does happen and it hurts like Jimmy Dore says, it's like in the 80s the phone company telling you you can't use the phone for your business. It absolutely destroys it and we've seen the rise somewhat of stupid too. I really hate when people are like people are getting dumber. I'm like ah they're just getting saturated with useless knowledge.

They're really just dumping just dumb on them and that's all they know. And it's really hard for them to find people like us, and particularly you, way more you than us. But, you know, and it's just really hard. And so when you talk about not changing anybody, I'm in that exact same place. I am done fighting with people on trying to show them what is going on outside my girlfriend who still watches MSNBC and just wants to argue with me about it. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I love to put out

the info and let people find it and those who find it if they want to digest it and try to understand what I'm saying to get a piece of the puzzle, and which for me is I don't like getting lied to, and I don't wanna fall for their psyops. Once you understand that, that's like real power, because everything's an occult, in my humble opinion. It's all occult mysticism, and they're trying to manipulate your energy,

and they get you to fall for it Whether it's believing that Iraqis need to die because of 9-eleven or that you have to take this kovat shot or whatever It is I don't fall for it because I know it's not real or like I ran shot down our our drones You know thoughts and prayers to the drones family. Why you know, it's like I don't fall for any of that stuff Because I know they're game plan and I think that's the important thing. But the days of arguing with people on conspiracies, I'm done with it. Okay. And I tell people my show has been going eight years.

It's been a top 100 comedy podcast for eight years. If I was wrong more than I was right, nobody would listen to this show. Sure. Yeah. So true, man. I used to say that if I wasn't arguing or debating with somebody on Facebook, like something is wrong with me, like physically or mentally, you know, because that's the way I used to be. And I used to think that, yeah, like if I just typed

enough, if I presented enough logic or something, like people would finally get it. But I think people are so entrenched into their political bias and their own political identities that they there's just no incentive. And you know, intellectual integrity is dead, bro. You know, like the idea that you're so right. The idea that somebody is actually going to come to you and like, try to have a logical debate using reason and facts and evidence. Like that's just, I don't know, man. I think that's from the old school.

You know, I want to believe it still exists, but it doesn't really, you know, like it's just a hot take after hot take, or, you know, you want to believe it still exists, but it doesn't really, you know, like it's just a hot take after hot take or, you know, you have your opinion, I have mine. And yeah, I'm right there with you, man. I don't even check my DMs anymore. I don't even check the comments most of the time, my notifications. I just post the shit and like, just let it go, you know, and it's like whoever it's going to resonate with. Yeah, whoever it's going to resonate with, it's going to resonate with.

I'm not going to, I'm not going to spend my time trying to convince you anymore. And that is part of our work. And I'll let more of like the free thought project do that with our articles and stuff, because we are still trying to plant seeds in the minds of people who are on the fence, right? Like if you're too politically entrenched in your own bias and your own beliefs, like good luck, you're not going to really be able to change people's minds. But there are still people out there like me during the Occupy Wall Street movement who were seeking some type of philosophical ideological foundation. Like they realized that it was an existence.

I didn't, it didn't exist in my mind. And in the age of information, ignorance is a choice, you know? So like you have that choice, you have that option, you have a computer and your, your pocket, like, you know, like all this information is out there. Yet people just become, you know, too. They circle the wagons and they get too involved with their own camps, you know, and it's like, man, I just, I've lost a little bit of faith in the hearts and minds approach, unfortunately.

Yeah, I'm with you. And people are very arrogant about their ignorance. Sure. They get so emotional. Like everything is meant with emotion. Now, nothing is a discussion. Everything is met with emotion and I just kind of over, I'm not saying I don't have my moments where I go zero the felony and want to start throwing nuts on everybody. Right. But I just realized that just like most algorithms are the new tower of Babel. Yeah. Everyone gets their own algorithm

and they get fed this information and they think that's reality but they don't realize that that is a data point being fed to them so they see the world in a certain way and then they can't communicate with people who see the world the other way. And again this gets into when we're looking at Trump, right? Can we separate good things that he does versus bad things that he does? And is that okay to do? Is it okay to celebrate certain things like him wanting to kind of take on USA aid, whatever that is? You know, I know you said you haven't really done a lot of research into it yet, but let's just say this is a mechanism which funds everything we hate in the world, right?

Sure. And he's like, I want to dismantle it or I want to move it over here. I want to take it. That's good. Like we can celebrate those moments, but we also have to go, okay, but now you're giving arms to Israel and you are, you're allowing the genocide of people. Like, you know, it's like, okay, we We can we can be like Israel has a right to exist if you want believe that not the expense of humanity and not the expense of other people

Like the Palestinians. I just don't understand how people can accept that and it's like how quickly people That aren't there are okay with death and destruction How many people are are pro-war when they're know they know they're never gonna go fight a war I remember the last time we were gonna have a build up for um, I think it was I think it was Iraq Wasn't Iraq but they were like this guy's like we should be going to war and they go how old are you guys like? I'm 25. It's like you're old enough to join the military. Do you want to go down? Oh, yeah, you got no skin in the game that's why you don't want to join it because you know it's not there you see war is a television show and not like people are dying that did nothing to anybody man that's so spot on sam and it's amazing

to me this kind of group think mentality this collectist mentality that seems to be kind of plaguing the right more right now because even just this morning I was debating with people who are literally telling me that I'm just complacent with this whole we're gonna take on the cartels rhetoric that Trump's taken that's you know that's kind of his new thing he just classified them as terrorists and basically painting the picture that I'm just sitting on my hands here while we that you know they consider themselves we go after them and it's kind of this more of like this uh American exceptionalism kind of mentality you know or like yeah we're all this broader collective and we are the government and of course that we weren't the government when Biden was

president but now we are because Trump's in. I mean, this type of rhetoric, this type of mindset is absolutely dangerous, man. It's like this tunnel vision that people have for making America great while they're missing X, Y, and Z. I mean, all these different things that are going on kind of behind the scenes, and you hit the nail on the head earlier. It's like there's zero nuance.

It's just all this black and white thinking. And as long as our team's winning and owning the libs, you know, then everything's good. And it's just so it's the opposite of logic. And especially when you start seeing these videos of what's going on in Gaza and Palestine and all this, I mean, it's so destructive, man. I don't know how anybody in their right mind could be supporting that, you know, but, you know, either I don't get it either in their right mind could be supporting that, you know, but You know either I don't get it either and it upsets me I don't know why my computer is having because I'm grabbing my mic all the time. Sorry guys

But I don't get it either and it upsets me when people Are okay With people dying like and this notion like if it's not us, it's somebody else. It's like this way of kind of like avoiding karma of what's being done. And I do believe a lot that's going on in the country right now is karma from what we did in the Middle East, what we did to the Iraqis.

You can't genocide four million people and not have a karma blowback from that. That's my opinion. I would love to get you what you think about the cartel situation. Their role in fentanyl, I personally believe cartels are just extensions of the CIA and this is how they make black ops money outside of the USAID stuff that they're getting to fund. the and contra-affair, the people who are meant to stop it are the ones who are basically creating the problem to cash checks and make money. So what are your thoughts on that?

Absolutely, man. No, that sums it up perfectly. And all of a sudden we're tunnel vision, once again, tunnel vision on fentanyl, right? Like nobody's talking about any of these other drugs. And that's intentionally created that way. I mean, that's like a orchestrated Psyop, you know? Because yeah, they wanted to place emphasis on this. I'm concerned about this, to be completely honest with

you. Not only is Trump revamping the drug war, you know, the 50-year-old-plus drug war that has been an utter failure, we can't even keep drugs out of prisons. I mean, I know that's a bit cliche to say even at this point, but I mean, it's true. It just logical proof right in front of us. And so in my opinion, this is only gonna exacerbate the situation. Not only is Trump starting to revamp and repackage the war on drugs, he's also revamping and repackaging the war on terror. We just bombed Somalia a couple of days ago.

I don't know if you guys happen to see that. That's the first overseas bombing that the Trump administration's participated in. He's already bombed, I think he bombed, Trump bombed Somalia more than Bush and Obama put together. This is something that obviously he's going to continue. Not only that on top of it, now he's starting a trade war too with the tariffs that's going to be happening. I know Mexico and Canada are starting to kind of play ball here a little bit, but like, what about the countries that don't? And I don't know, this is all just very concerning to me.

But back to your point here, the drug war, man, that's the problem. We already experienced prohibition in this country as being a failure with alcohol and how many lives were lost, how many people are imprisoned over that, and we ended up ending that, but yet people still believe the rhetoric, especially the people on the right, as we were just saying.

It amazes me that people still think that there is a way to win the drug war. We have the largest prison population in the entire world. Yes, including Russia. Yes, including China. You can look up those stats. It's mind blowing. In the prison industrial complex, man,

it's just gonna make more money. It's gonna continue to fill the jail cells with nonviolent offenders. I think it's half of people that are sitting in jail cells right now are nonviolent drug offenders. That's insane, man. That's absolutely insane. So to me, the fact that we're continuing to ramp this up,

I know this is all part of Trump's image and persona of the law and order candidate that he, you know, put forth. But like to me, man, like this is the absolute wrong way of going about it. And I don't see even my libertarian friends in our libertarian circles talking enough about this. I know it's still just a couple of days old, you know, this, uh, designating the cartel members as terrorists, but like, this is kind of intertwining the drug war with the war on terror. And it's only going to add, and badly for Americans and especially people on the border, the cartels aren't going to just back down.

That's not something that's going to happen. My problem with labeling anybody terrorist is like who's funding them and we always know it's us That's that's my problem. So you bring up you bring up Somalia Somalia is the whole thing is there's ISIS in Somalia Which is the laughable right? It's just laughable and because we are we are bombing ISIS in Somalia But we're celebrating ISIS in We are bombing Isis in Somalia, but we're celebrating Isis in Syria. Like that's why everything, this is why the whole thing is just ridiculous. Yeah.

And so many people just want to check out because it's like, you have to constantly be paying attention to what's going on and this notion that Isis and this notion that Al Qaeda and all these people or 19 high pulled some Luke Skywalker, but it just constantly does it. Sorry guys. Luke Skywalker BS. Just laughable to me. The whole thing is just laughable. It's just absolutely sad and pathetic. Well, they need their boogeyman, right? Like, there we go. I'm not going to touch it again. It's absolutely laughable.

It's just laughable. And this, this notion, I just got a discussion with a buddy of mine yesterday who's like, uh, I would say he's a progressive and like, he's okay with our intelligence agencies and our, our, our military manipulating other countries. If it means we win against, let's say Russia or China, which is like mind blowing, that anybody would be excited about that. Yeah, they need their boogeyman. They need somebody to point at.

There has to be a bad guy. I mean, this has been the same playbook for decades now, and we're seeing the war on terror just being extended. So yeah, it It's really disheartening Especially somebody who's claimed to be an anti-war candidate and the right eats that up to you know Like how many people have you heard saying? Well Trump was the anti-war candidate? I mean I could go down the list of all the reason that's that's complete BS, you know, and it's just list of all the reasons that's complete BS. And it's part of being the in crowd, the in group. And it's kind of why we saw a lot of these big tech figures also kind of transition into being at

the inauguration and now being friendly with the Trump regime because they realize that there's a shift happening. They realize that there's going to be money allocated, especially through Trump just announced the $500 billion Stargate project, which I assume is going to be taxpayer funded. I know that they said that it's gonna be privately funded. I truly doubt that. But I mean, things are moving quickly here.

And again, it's just this kind of tribalistic mentality. Like, our group is winning, we're doing all these good things. And again, I'm right there with you. I'm not trying to be too black and white on this. There are some good things that Trump's done. I mean, yeah, ending USAID's great. Deregulating these markets that were overly regulated

with plenty of regulatory capture. I mean, an excess of regulatory capture. That's a good thing. And I'm not saying that's bad, but what's taking its place? You know, like, are we remaining skeptical? Are we actually looking at things critically? And I don't think enough people are. And to me, that's just a huge red flag, man.

Um, I agree with a lot of that stuff. And I don't think enough people are and to me that's just a huge red flag, man I agree with a lot of stuff my my question to you is I Don't know what the answer under drug war is. Okay. I do I agree with you that it is a giant failure you know locking up people in in prison for, um, non-violent. I always say prisons should be meant for violent people and people who steal from people, like in particular white collar people, right? But even on a lower level. And we've seen people do the thing where they decriminalize drugs and it just seems to make it even worse. Like if I put you in charge, I'm asking, I'm not trying to press you.

I'm asking you honestly, like what would you do to, to deal with the drug situation? Well, I think you, yeah, you're right, man. I know there has been a couple of places. I think it was Oregon who rescinded their um, they ended up putting drug laws back into place. I think maybe it was in Portland. I don't know if it was the whole state of Oregon, but um, yeah, I get it, man. There's obviously a cultural problem. There's obviously a spiritual problem happening. Uh, there's a deeper desire for why people are using drugs. And I don't think that gets discussed enough. I think that has to be acknowledged.

I think that needs to be reprimanded in its own right. But honestly, what's going to make it worse is more violence, more people in cages, and more laws that, you know, it's only gonna amplify the police state. They're not going to be using these new laws or whatever Trump's going to do to take on these cartels. Again, I think it's going to be targeted towards the American people because there's not, they're

going to be ambiguous. The laws are going to be ambiguous. It's going to give the police state more power. So ultimately, we just have to decriminalize drugs, we have to give the options of drug rehabilitation centers. I'm not saying they have to be, don't have to be publicly funded necessarily, but like, I'm sorry, what were you saying? But no, no, but I'm totally agreeing with you. They can't be publicly funded. If we have privatized prisons, why can't we have privatized rehabs? Sure. Sure. But I mean go you don't throw them in cages and you

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It's because there's no jobs anywhere. The only job that is hiring is the military industrial complex and there's no way to work. Your family's been blown up. Everyone you know is dead and only the option you have is grab a gun and run into here and do the same thing to others what was done to you. And traumatize them. So now we got generational problems. And eventually the people who pay you are going to try to assassinate you because they're going to be fighting terror. You know. So I don't know what the answer is on drugs. I know that, you know, when I did drugs, part of, because I had a drug problem, part of the problem was, you know, I had to get drugs. You know, I had to go through this process of buying the drugs and then finding somewhere to do the drugs. I don't think it's natural to allow human beings to know it's go here grab drugs there's

gonna be no consequences for the drugs and you can just destroy your life that seems to me to be the thing that stops a lot of people from doing drugs I don't know what the answer is because we've seen and you know because you were talking about cops earlier you, we've seen what happens when there are no cops. Like what do we do? And I'm asking an honest question because it seems when you pull law enforcement out, the gentlemen agreement of, you know, in the food court or wherever we're all meeting,

we used to have social contracts where we would all agree, we're not gonna do this. We're all going to just show each other respect. That seems to have gone out the door, especially when they don't think there's consequences and hurt people tend to hurt people. Well, what are your thoughts on that? Because I agree with you.

I think if you have cops and there's no consequences for your actions, people just go crazy. But when you don't have cops, people seem to go crazy as well. Right. Yeah. Well, yeah, this is a bit of one, a bit of a, you know, important topic and it'll take a second to unpack here, but I mean, ultimately I'm a libertarian.

I believe in the right to self-defense. Right. So obviously I think more people should be armed. second to unpack here, but I mean, ultimately I'm a libertarian. I believe in the right to self-defense, right? So obviously I think more people should be armed. I think more people should be proficient and training and knowing how to use their firearms. Armed society is a polite society, right? But at the end of the day, I also believe in the division of labor. I don't think that just because you own a gun, you have AR and underneath your bed or whatever that you're going to want to be doing neighborhood patrols all the time, every day, all day.

So I get this a lot. People say, well, you just hate all cops. You don't want cops to exist. No, that's not correct. That's not my position. My position is I don't want a monopoly on law enforcement. And I think that's where all of the problems come from when it comes to law enforcement and police, because ultimately to to me it's an economic

issue. It doesn't have to do with racism like the mainstream wants to point at and the left wants to point at. It might be a part of it but to me this is an economic issue. It's the fact that law enforcement is funded by our extracted tax dollars involuntarily. So every other market function in society we voluntarily pay for because we find value in it. But law enforcement and police, they get funded through our taxation regardless of their performance, regardless of how effective they are, how efficient they are, their accountability or willingness to improve. They don't have to worry about any of that stuff because one way or another they have their flow of cash coming in. So that to me is ultimately the problem.

Now I know that gets a little confusing for people because they think, well, what does that mean? There's a gang of various different private security and protection companies that are running around like the Pinkertons and they end up all killing each other or whatever. I don't think it's going to be quite like that, but I do believe that that is a better option because we actually have a real life example. I have a friend in Detroit and you might even know this guy's turned into a meme over the past couple of years, but his name is Dale Brown from the Detroit Threat Management Center. He's he's he's been all over the internet because he's

doing these self defense like videos and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know him. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's a good friend. He's a bit of lefty. He's a little out there when it comes to his politics and stuff, but he's actually proven in Detroit, in a not very good area of Detroit, that he has a zone private security company protection agency that, you know, it's been going now for what, 25 plus years. They've never had anybody on their watch be killed, any of their customers, any of their employees have never been arrested or anything like these guys are the professionals. And as the name says, they're threat management. So they try to deescalate situations. They have

a whole mental toolbox of how to deescalate situations rather than escalate them like law enforcement does. So there are, there is somebody out there that we could point to, to say like this guy is the way that we're supposed to do it. This guy's doing it correctly because the whole approach to police culture and the way that police view protection is completely half ass backwards. This guy Dale Brown has a completely different approach to it where it's actually based in love, not just this monopoly security agency that claims the right to initiate force on you. And that's more or less what police do right now.

They claim the legal monopoly to initiate violence on people. And that's more or less where I think is kind of the problem here. And listen, the listeners of the show are wonderfully open-minded people. And I know they're listening. There could be a couple people that might get upset with that. What you're saying, I just want to bring up that just remember during COVID, right? During COVID, they were just all about forcing businesses to shut down and all that stuff. My cousin's a cop.

He tells me all the time how hard it is to be a cop My heart goes out to him. My grandfather was a cop. I understand It's a very tough thing, but you're right, man You're right If you take a look at these LA fires Rick Caruso had a like almost like a privatized city and he had his own Fire department and they were able to handle everything right there and you go, okay, that's great. So my question, well, okay. And maybe you answered it. Detroit, maybe poor neighborhoods, the neighborhood regulates itself or is that what you're talking about?

That is one option. Absolutely. But I would say that people are more inclined to probably pay for those types of services. And by doing so, we actually, by paying voluntarily, we have more control over these types of agencies or firms that would produce this type of protection security service for us. Right now, we can't take our dollar and our money away from current law enforcement that's currently protecting us or serving our community, right? And that gives us so much more leverage it kind of takes out the possibility of any type of coercion. I am also gives us better options because look if let's say the security company that we paid for. Decides to stop my you know sixteen year old son while he's driving home and rough them up.

you know, 16 year old son while he's driving home and rough them up, well, guess what? Like we take our money elsewhere, me and the community or a neighborhood or however small it's fragmented into, we actually have the option to be like, you know what? Like this firm sucks. Like that's the way they're gonna behave. Let's go somewhere else.

Let's find a different provider for this. But we don't have that option right now within law enforcement. And just a quick caveat, you know, I'm sure that your cousin, your uncle are good people who are cops and I'm not a collectivist. I'm not one of those people that think that like every cop is bad because that's an individual.

And I know that each individual has their own mind. And what I'm saying is the institution itself is flawed through the very mechanism of its funding. So if it wasn't a monopoly, there would be a significant difference. And we would see actually quality protection and security services. And that's just something we don't have right now. Yeah, it's interesting. So what you brought up, George Floyd from somebody from your perspective,

what are your thoughts on the whole George Floyd thing? Uh, well, you know, to me, it was, it's kind of a bit surprising that that one was the one that met mega viral. That was the one that everybody kind of focused on because even prior to that, like a week before that we were covering stories that seemed much more graphic and brutal and just horrific and don't get me wrong, the way that George Floyd died, of course, wasn't exactly pleasant,

but I feel like it got turned into a mantra for the left. And part of me understands that because prior to George Floyd, there was so many huge national police brutality stories that went mega viral that people across the country were protesting. And I think people just had enough. They had enough with the recklessness of law enforcement. And so I think a part of that was an organic response to what had happened to George Floyd and people's just being at a fever pitch. They were just frustrated and tired and they didn't know any other way to express their their dismay, their dissatisfaction.

The other part of me does see how it was co-opted by the mainstream, by the Democrats, by the left. Black Lives Matter all this obviously blew up. During that time, ironically, nobody was reaching out to me or police the police for interviews or to talk about us because again it was. This assumption that anything that has to do with police accountability it's baked into this left form of activism you know and so they didn't want to hear what I was just explaining to you. That we can't actually have incremental reform we're not gonna have politicians that are gonna fix police they didn't't want to hear that the answer is privatizing these things. The answer to them was, oh, we just point fingers at the racist cops and we ask politicians to maybe make a few marginal changes and eventually everything is going to get better. And that's completely delusional. We've been protesting police brutality in this country since 1886. That's as far as I know, the very first police

accountability protests is called the Haymarket riot, where they are protesting people killed by police. 1886, Sam, that's a long time. And the fact that things haven't changed through incremental reform, through politics, should be all the evidence that we need that it's never gonna change.

And you know what does change things? This right here, a phone. Actually recording when people are being brutalized when people are being hurt or even killed by police viral videos Actually create change in society people realize now What's actually happening within law enforcement that they are? Largely a gang of you know rogue actors who don't have to abide by the law largely a gang of rogue actors who don't have to abide by the law. So it's a, yeah, it's a very interesting place that we kind of found ourselves in. But as I was saying, you know, in the beginning of this podcast, it does seem

like there is a resurgence, there is a resurgence for people interested in this kind of information. So, uh, I am with you again. There's people that could be going, you know, oh, bad way. You hate cops. I'm, I listen, again, I think, you know what I think the new punk rock is? Common sense.

Common sense is the new punk rock, right? And there's times where I look at like Ruby Ridge or Waco and I go, we'd understand there's a heavy hand to that, you know? There needs to be a way of, because the more and more I study law enforcement, the more and more I go, it seems like law enforcement's biggest job

is protect the property, the businesses of the elite. Sure. Right? Like that seems to be the big, big businesses of the elite. Sure. Right. Like that seems to be the big, big thing that they're doing. Like last night and we can get into the Bolsheviks. I think we're in the middle of a Bolshevik revolution. Uh, that's my opinion. Uh, Karen Bass, pulling the cops back, uh, during what was most likely, you know, uh, you know, immigration protests,

which seems a lot like Antifa and BLM all over again, which are, listen, you know, I am free Palestine to the bone, you know, but I don't understand why stopping people from getting to the airport for their plane is going to help the Palestinians, but it does is piss people off. Absolutely. And that seems to be a bigger part of it, you know?

So it seems like the government has a monopoly on violence. Absolutely. No, 100%. I mean, that's the only tool that government does have. That's how it enforces its laws. Uh, that's how it extracts funds. That's the only tool that government has. And I think that's another thing that, yeah,

we need to talk about more is that, do we really wanna live in a society where like this is the peak, you know, is government violence? Like that's the mechanism that binds us all to this so-called social contract, you know? Like I think we could do better. I think we should strive to do better. And going back here for a second, you're absolutely right, Sam, there has been a

couple of different legal presidencies that have stated, one being Warren versus DC in 1981, that police don't actually have a legal obligation to protect us. That's not part of the job description. And I know, again, that's a misnomer, that's something that people believe is absolutely true. It's probably the public school indoctrination that they've gone through. But we even saw during the Parkland shooting, they ruled it once again, that cops don't have an obligation to protect us. That's not part of their job. Their job is to uphold laws, regardless if they like them, regardless if we like. And that's exactly what happened during COVID. I mean, you talked about it earlier,

like people are gonna be violently apprehended because they weren't wearing a mask in a certain place or whatever it was. I mean, I know there was plenty of cops that spoke out about a lot of the heavy-handed COVID policies and not trying to enforce them, but there was plenty of cops that spoke out about a lot of the heavy-handed COVID policies and not, you know, trying to enforce them. But there was plenty of cops that did too. And I think that's, you know, exactly the problem with any type of order follower. You know, whether it be somebody is a soldier or a cop, you have to follow orders regardless of your own moral inclinations.

You know, you're a libertarian. I am a registered libertarian. I was Democrat for a very long time. I think the Democrats absolutely went crazy. They lost the narrative. You know, we always talk about moments in history that kind of changed the country. I think Hillary stealing the primary from Bernie Sanders is one of those where where the you know you want to go into courts a Democrat saying we don't have to give

you the candidate you want we're going to give you which is it's so crazy because they go to court Debbie Wasserman Schultz all them argue we're a private entity We don't have to give you the candidate you want. We, we can put in whoever we want. Fast forward to Kamala Harris and they just inserted her and it causes ripple chaos with everybody is even, even the biggest scumbag in the country. Gavin Newsom gets irked with it. Cause I think he thought he had a chance to run for it. They didn't even give them a chance. They just insert her and it goes exactly how everyone knew it would go Um, I mean they're primary they had primaries that were they just said oh that didn't count and and then they met again

The the elites of the party met again and said we're picking her when when is where's that written that? That's a thing that can happen. You know what? what I mean they just they completely called notable and and took any any remaining facade of democracy and just lit it on fire with respect to primaries they're meaningless from now on yeah sorry that was that's not been given enough attention and I think no you're you're totally right. Everyone just moved on, and then they're all like, what happened? How did she lose? She lost because nobody wanted her.

Of course, yeah, because she wasn't elected. The Democrat has completely acquiesced to international corporations. I'm not saying the Republicans haven't done that either, but I do think that Trump likes to govern more than Kamala Harris would have governed. I think she was going to be the first Kardashian president where she would just go around and take pictures with rappers and get free gifts and stuff like that.

And then the blink in who I think was running everything behind closed door, or at least he was one of a couple people that were actually running the government would continue to run the government. And it would go into what, uh, Jeremy Ryan Slate said, where it's like at the end of the Roman empire Empire they just inserted placemats these these these czars were just placemats and barbarians outside barbarians were running everything and I think that's what's gonna happen now I'm not saying that Trump obviously we know he's doing it with Israel and what that is.

So I think she would, I think, I just can't believe she couldn't talk. That's the craziest thing about a public, a public prosecutor who can't talk. Yeah. I mean, what do we talk? What? That makes you question the whole entire narrative. It seems like we're spiraling into idiocracy and she was maybe a little less than a commacho president commacho, but damn close, you know, maybe her predecessor would have been a commacho like figure, but absolutely, man, it really is.

It's been a sharp decline. That's one thing I will say at least Trump has a little gravitas. At least he has a little bit of a spine. At least he, even though he has people whispering in his ear, you know, at least he kind of has a sense of direction. And I'm all for this idea of America first, you know, like I'm not a big nationalist or any of that kind of stuff. But like, look, like if we're sending billions of dollars to Ukraine and Israel, and by the way, I tried to keep track of how many billions were sent to Ukraine

and I lost track after about a year. Like I think people say it's over 200 billion. It's absolutely insane, but I'd rather see that money obviously be reinvested into our country. Yeah. To our crumbling infrastructure. I mean, I don't think that's asking a lot. I don't think that really takes away

my libertarian anarchist card by saying that, but I do feel like that is the direction that we needed to go. And that's why Trump won a landslide, because people are tired of the globalist kind of performative, what we've seen from the Democrats for years. And if we did have Kamala,

we'd be dealing with price controls now and more agenda 2030 BS and more of just an extension of Biden's presidency than another four years of Biden's presidency. So I think they like to say that Joe Biden stole the 2020 election. At least this time around, it seemed like maybe it was a little more legitimate, a little bit more organic, because I think people have realized that Trump is just Better for America in many ways and god damn. I can't believe I just said that but I love it, dude I mean like listen, I listen I totally get everything you're saying right now

Yeah, like you are you are my spirit animal at this moment or how I feel I'm gonna quote tweet you on that Okay. Yeah, I am I can't trust any of these guys as far as I can kick them. 52 years of data says we're about to get F'd. But there are things that I go, okay, I trust this guy way more that would count Kamala Harris or, or Joe Biden. Yeah. But when you tell me it's like Marco Rubio that's leading the charge on USAID, I'm like, okay, Marco.

No, I'm with you. It's like, why is that guy in there? I get it, man. Yeah, right there with you. It's such a mixed bag. And it's a little confusing to me too, because obviously we're knee deep in the info wars here, what Dr. Robert Malone calls fifth generation warfare.

And we just had like, what? Four years of people more or less kind of realizing that like anything that's mainstream is probably co-opted, right? But now like Elon, I mean, you know what, he's just like one of the biggest figures on earth and multi-billionaire, the richest man on earth. Like who better would be the court jester to kind of lead in a Trojan horse into a different paradigm? And that's kind of what I'm worried about here is that, you know, while everybody's watching the right hand, the left hand is still kind of doing things behind the scene. And, you know, the MAGA movement, if you don't mind me tweeting myself here, I think this kind of sums it up is that the MAGA movement seems blind to the fact that while they're celebrating the collapse of the legacy paradigm, they're unknowingly kind of paving the way for this new tech-driven

tyranny fueled by biometrics, AI, and mass digital surveillance. And I mean, if you look at the people that Trump's surrounding himself with, some of the policies that are already putting into place with this $500 billion for AI and, like I said, inauguration, I mean, Bezos was there, Zuckerberg was there, they're already sticking their hands out, you know? There's something going on here. And I don't know. To me, it's like if this dismantling of the old dying globalist paradigm, it could just be a performative ploy. People know, and we were talking about PsyOps earlier, like people know that this is a sinking ship, right? So like what better way to re-emerge than having a whole new actor come in with a whole

new set of goals. And you know, it seems like there is a tech bro conglomerate that's trying to reconfigure the military and surveillance complex into more of like a public-private alliance and and they become oligarchs by doing that that really guards I think is the term what was that bro leg arcs bro leg arcs yeah but that's that's that's what I mean we become much like Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union with all of these you know oil companies who yes who are you know in charge of their little tech fiefdoms that have responsibilities also now with the government and are getting paid by the government on the books this time.

Yeah, exactly. It doesn't sound better necessarily. Elon has control over the US Treasury. It's crazy. Yeah. What? What are your thoughts on that? Some people are like, even my girlfriend who I disagree with

are almost all the time politically. I love her to pieces, but she was like, why does he get that data? And I go, I don't know why it gets the data. There's no answer to that. And I wasn't elected and he's getting data on competitors. Like he will know, you know, it's, it's open. Come on now, as far as he's concerned. No, it's crazy. If it was the opposite, if it was Bill Gates and Biden's and, you know, Biden's administration, the right would be losing their mind. But because it's Elon and they've positioned Elon as being the savior, much like Trump, I don't think anybody's pushing back. They think it's for the better for the country. You know, they think that Elon's this genius. And I know there's mixed feelings about Elon.

You know, I don't particularly hate the guy. I'm not completely convinced that he's like a CIA asset or some type of Psyop, but like there are some reasons to potentially consider that he might be, you know? And so again, like if he's the court jester, kind of like ushering all this stuff in through a Trojan horse, like what better way to do it, right? Like through this brilliant eccentric billionaire.

So, uh, who is the number one defense contractor? I mean, like, why would he ruin that? I mean, why would he destroy his relationship with the deep state, which is the Pentagon? I mean, I don't understand why people can't at least go, hey, man, maybe we should be guarded in our optimism. Sure. Well, I mean, don't forget Starlink also, you know, his Starlink satellites also aid the U.S US drone programs. And here's a fun fact,

he's also the grandson of the Canadian Technocracy Party leader. So he's got this whole like technocracy background, transhumanist background, and Mr. Brainship, don't forget about that part. I don't know, man, it is all very peculiar. And I don't, again,, I'm not trying to paint with too broad of a brush here, because I'm somebody who values nuance. But there are some things that

we should be paying attention to. And I see a profound lack of skepticism coming from the right, you know, like we have to stay vigilant. That's much more important than owning the libs or winning any culture war, you know, it's like, if if are, let's just say like, this is theoretical, right? But like, if they are performing this controlled demolition so people will readily accept this technocratic surveillance state, like they're doing a damn good job of it. And nobody's even think twice right now,

especially the right who has been so up in arms since COVID about all this stuff. You know, are they gonna say anything if Musk does say, well, guess what, guys, like, your driver's license now need to be mobile driver's license is a digital ID. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Hopefully they'd push back. I've seen mixed reviews of people online. Some people say that, yeah, maybe the hardcore MAGA would but like the red pill MAGA, the people who just supported them because they think he was a better option,

like they would push back on it. But I don't think the MAGA camp would. I think they're too deep, like they're knee deep in this stuff, you know, and they just don't have what it seems to be real critical thinking skills. It is really hard. Your ID has gone forward too, you know, that's, I mean, I got to get one by mayor. I'll say can't fly, which I battling hard not to want to fly because they definitely don't want us flying. If we're in 50, if they want some 15 man cities, why do they want us on planes?

And they're just like, I, I'm still not convinced anybody was on that black hawk. I'm not, I mean, I don't know who was in that black hawk. I'm not. I mean, I don't know who is in on any of it. Sure. Sure. I don't know who's in on any of the planes, any of that stuff. I don't know any of that stuff, dude, you know, but you're totally right.

And cause you get into mega bros, you get into all that stuff. You kind of, you know, my belief again is that if you're going to live in a big city, you're going to live under our wellian rules. Yeah. And if you want to, if you don't want to live in under that, you're going to move to the small, you're going to move to these small cities on the outskirts where they're not just going to care. They're going to be like, okay, you know, you want to live in 2000 people, go

have a good time, but if you want to live where all the businesses You're gonna have to play ball. You're gonna be okay with us. Just having having zero privacy on anything Yeah Our comfort will be our enslavement. That is exactly what's gonna happen. I Can put my hand on here? Ah Look, I can try look. I'm an Amazon. I could put my hand on here. Ah, look, I can charge. Look, I'm at Amazon. I could put my hand down and it charges my hand. It's so much easier than having to get out my phone and my credit card. You're like, you just you have no clue what you're signing up for.

Sure. I mean, that's the predicate of, you know, the CBDCs. And I know that they seem like they're dead in the water now. But I wrote a book in 2023 about how to prepare for CBDCs. And that's always been the rhetoric that comes from these ruling class elites is that it's going to be more convenient and it's going to be more inclusive. And those two things are supposed to be kind of like two other scariest words ever said. Sure.

Convenient and inclusive. Whenever you hear inclusive, run. Just run. Get out. So what is your take on crypto? I am a crypto proponent. I like the idea. Now this gets a little bit confusing, right? Because even just recently, there has been kind of a shift with the Bitcoin community. And, you know, the Bitcoin community. And, you know, I've been doing this for a long time, as you guys have been as well, obviously, and to watch Bitcoin go from like, what was it?

You know, $7 and it went up to like a couple hundred to a couple thousand, and now it's like at a hundred thousand. Like, I feel like there's some momentum there. And I really love that it is catching on and becoming more widely accepted but there are also aspects of it that are concerning because Now we saw that Trump just signed these orders to basically kill off Biden's research into CBDC's

But there's speculation and this is kind of what Whitney Webb gets into, and even somebody like Bitcoin Jesus Roger Veer, that Bitcoin has been hijacked. It was hijacked during the block wars, and they've basically made it so it's not something that will ever reach the same destination that it was intended to by Satoshi Nakamoto, which was to be peer to peer electronic cash.

What's become is more become digital gold become something that's an investment become kind of gamified like the stock market and i think that was intentional i think that. At least what rogers book hijacking bitcoin suggest is that there were intelligence agency actors who got involved with bottlenecking some of the transaction processes and the speeds with the lightning network and making it more difficult for people to use. If you look at like, I think it's something like, it's ridiculous. It's like six transactions per minute or something crazy like that, or excuse me, per second. And I think that's like, it's something like a Visa or MasterCard has like 100,000 transactions per second. So these numbers might be a little wrong, but like it's the general

ballpark of kind of illustrating the point I'm making is that they've made it incredibly difficult to use as a peer to peer. So I am in big support of things like Zano, like Monero, support of things like Zano, like Monero, pirate chain, pirate coin, stuff like that, more privacy oriented crypto. And I think that's the way forward, especially if we do get into this kind of digital money kind of realm, which, you know, has been dangled in front of us. And it seems like it still could possibly be something that happens. But I think there was enough pushback against the CBDCs widely that they kind of realized that they had to change directions on it a little bit.

So there are aspects of crypto that I think are liberating and could change kind of the paradigm that we're living in right now. But we also have to be, once again, kind of skeptical, especially when things go mainstream like Bitcoin has. So what is your take on, uh, do you have any thoughts on bricks? Um, yeah, I mean, the whole de-dollarization is certainly happening as well. And when, you know, your currency is backed by literally nothing except for military might, that's going to piss off a lot of people, you know your currency is backed by literally nothing except for military might that's gonna piss off a lot of people You know and I think that we've backed a lot of corners into a country or a lot of course countries into a corner excuse me and

it's Something that they're realizing they actually can control they can push back on the US dollar and create their own can control. They can push back on the US dollar and create their own currencies and their own reserves. So it, yeah, I mean, this is all just symptoms of a dying empire, as well as, you know, people like Kamala and Trump. I really do believe that they're just going to exploit the dying empire until the wheels fall off, you know, and that's kind of what we're seeing with the bro-legarchy, the tech bro takeover and all that stuff. It's maybe not to the same degree as in your face as like a Camilla administration would be or Kamala.

Sorry, I always get that wrong. But, uh, it is, it is concerning. Yeah. What does that look like the end of the empire to you? What, what, what happens to America? Ooh, boy. I haven't spent a lot of time actually visualizing that.

I talk about what to do before that case. And in my book, I talked about three ways to prepare for CBDCs, but I don't know if I could really envision prolonged periods of unrest in the US. I don't really think Americans have it in them, but I think if things get bad enough, if the dollar does crash, if there's no food on the shelves in grocery stores, yeah, there's going to be some chaos, most definitely. But that's exactly the reason why we need to start kind of

taking action now. And yeah, buying cryptocurrencies, learning how to use cryptocurrencies, learning how to grow your own food, learning how to barter and trade and all types of stuff like that. I mean, that's really important. I don't think people understand that this is the time to be doing it right now, not when shit hits the fan. You know, when shit hits the fan, good luck. You know, like you need to be prepared now. You need to understand how to use a firearm.

You need to know how to do basic repairs, self-sufficiency, all these things. You need to train, man. I just bought a whole new plate carrier and everything for myself just recently. I'm taking this shit seriously, man. I'm preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. Build your kit, buy your AR, do what you got to do. Like train, man. It's not just for preparation either. It's also a show of force to remind law enforcement to remind government that we're out here, we exist and we're going to uphold our rights one way or

another, you know, and I don't know if that mentality is prevalent enough. I think we need to be pushing back more with, with that kind of thinking. Uh, you know, I just did Tim Pool and it was a great experience and Tim wasn't feeling good, but they had a co-host sitting in and he was great. I don't know how deep into conspiracies he is, which I find that weird. After all the last 20 years, how you can't be you can't be like Yeah People people don't conspire. I go you don't think people conspire because that really at its core is what conspiracy is people are Conspiring to do something. Um, but I told them and I believe this whole hardly We should be the most paranoid

Yeah Population out there. We should be paranoid that what happened to China, Russia and Germany could easily be done here. I think there's an illusion that they won't ever do that here. And the people that do that don't care. A great example, this is going into some weird stuff, but the Dallas Mavericks right now, just stick with me, the Dallas Mavericks, there is this belief right now that they traded their number one player Who's a generational player a top three player in the league because they want to bottom out the Mavs So they can threaten to move the Mavs to Las Vegas

Just think about this level psychopath that takes Just think about the level of psychopath that takes to trade a generational player like that to bottom out a franchise that you just bought in for a couple of bills. If they're going to do that with sports, why wouldn't people even hire up? I mean, you're talking about the owner of the math is a woman who just gave what? A hundred million dollars to Trump to flatten Gaza. Yeah. You don't think those people wouldn't implode this motherfucker to bring in what they want. Cause they're psychopaths and they believe they're

above it. Yeah. Yeah. You guys are delusional about what you're up against. You're up against people that do not care. And just like on a man, just like on animal planet, the hunters never stop hunting. They're always hunting. The prey is just trying to live its life. I just want to eat some grass, knock up my chick, have some kids, live my life. but the hunters are hunting. Sure. No, you absolutely hit the nail on the head there, Sam.

Uh, it's been a great conversation and yeah, you know, government is the gun in the room and I use this analogy often. Everybody's trying to get the gun in the room. This is a trillion dollar machine that they'll be able to control. Trillion plus. I mean, well, technically we're 36 trillion in debt, but nevertheless, obviously the levers of power that come with government control are vast. So why wouldn't they use every Psyop, every piece of propaganda, everything at their disposal to continue to run this empire and control that gun in the room, control the

trillion dollar machine. So I'm right there with you, man. And just a quick caveat, Tim Poole, yeah, he's a little skeptical of conspiracy theories. I think that's absolutely correct. And just really quick, when we were taken down by Facebook and Twitter on the same day, he suggested, I think I saw the screenshots, he suggested that it was our fault for not complying with their community standards And he said that he said that straight up. So Yeah, I don't have a lot of like or respect for mr. Tim pool But glad to hear that you're on a show at least well, it's it's it's weird to me

That something could be like you're not playing along With with their rules if you're like the rules with, with their rules. If you're like, the rules are they're hiding the truth. Like we, we are the product. We create the social media. They need us. We don't need them, but we've been corralled away from again, the golden era of websites, see, oh, you got to have a website. Well, I know people that don't even have websites.

They just go to my Instagram, go to my TikTok, go to my, they corrals into this because it's convenient and that we abandoned everything else. We abandoned the rest of the internet for convenience, you know, but then to say, Hey dude, you're spending this whole thing about misinformation. It's like golf and Tonkin was misinformation. Weapons of mass destruction was misinformation. The story of nine 11 is misinformation. All of it is missing.

Even before you get the weapons of the mass destruction, the story that is told was about 19 Milleesterners Hijacking a plane in which nobody does anything if you're like, dude, you're hijacking this plane. I'm gonna fuck you guys up I'm going out anyways. I'm gonna fuck you guys up, right? But nobody did that. They are too busy making calls Oh, come on. Come on. It's so stupid And then michael churyoff whose father is a Tulumod scholar and his mother was a part of something called Operation Magic Carpet in which she smuggled Zionists out of other countries into Palestine. And he's the one who's like, Hey, get all these dancing Israeli,

send them back to Israel. You don't think there's something there? You're so worried about the slippery slope to goose stepping that you're okay with a genocide going on in Iraq. Right. It's just like, it's absolutely insanity to me. So we have these people that lied and it's like, it's so memory hold now. It's so crazy to me. That's memory hold.

And you know, what's interesting to me is like, you said something earlier about suddenly your Facebook is picking up Yeah, I out of nowhere suddenly have three million views on my on my Instagram I don't know where those views are coming from I go and I try to coordinate What is the video that's getting all the views? I? Can't find it so I know they lie about numbers. I've caught them so many times lying about the video numbers I wonder if they're that's it too because I don't have anything that has a bazillion views that would That would warrant three million views in 30 days Sure, but I'm with you. They're starting to let me dance a tiny they're letting daddy dance just a tiny bit

we'll see if this new duck is, is what he said. I don't trust him as far as I can kick that lizard, but it's interesting. Let's get into a real quick. Your book, you, you are, you are doing a, um, kids book. Yeah. Well, yeah, we published it last year. Um, yeah, thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk about it real quick here. We, we spend a lot of time, a lot of effort. I've never made a children's book before it takes a little bit

more energy and then you would expect but no we did release last year in April, a book called Little Freethinkers. Oh, it's not going to be able to Little Freethinkers know your rights. I guess I got the blur on you kind of hold it yourself. Pull it back. Yeah, there it goes. There it is. There we go. Little Freethinkers Know Your Rights.

And it's a labor of love. We spent a lot of time working on it, as I just mentioned. And, you know, as we've been in the police accountability realm for a decade plus, we've covered a lot of stories about kids who were arrested or had their rights violated. So it felt like a good time to write a children's book about knowing your rights. And it was definitely inspired by the Tuttle Twins. I don't know if, do you guys have kids? If you guys have

kids, you probably know of the Tuttle Twins. Which ones are the Tuttle Twins? Yeah. So they're, they're more of like right-leaning conservatives, but, uh, they put together a series of books and they sell like hotcakes because they're kind of outside of the norm of like the public school education stuff. And, uh, so yeah, we, we decided to do kind of our own teaching kids about their constitutional rights.

Hopefully if it does well, which it has been, it's still selling. We were sold out for a little while, but you can find them now, but this will be the first in their constitutional rights. Hopefully if it does well, which it has been, it's still selling. We're sold out for a little while, but you can find them now. But this will be the first in a series of many books similar to this. So that's a plus if it continues to sell. But the book was written after this individual right here who is actually a real-life whistleblower cop. She was fired from her department, so we wanted to make her the main character. And yeah, it just more or less teaches kids

about due process, free speech, the First Amendment, the Bill of Rights, probable cause. And I would say it's probably geared towards kids more like ages six to 10. So yeah, guys, check it out. It's at littlefreethinkers.com, and there's sample pages over there. Um, yeah, give your, your kids a foundation of Liberty.

You know, there's so many other people that are, uh, putting, you know, different ideas and thoughts into their mind, propaganda, propagandizing our children. So why not do it yourself with a foundation of freedom and peace? So, yeah, I have a, I have a children's comic book called The Chaos Twins. It's based on my daughter's. They're turning five soon. Can't believe it. And we watched these things. I remember watching YouTube, and there was a guy trying

to teach kids how to do sorcery. I'm like, OK, all right. Like YouTube, is this OK for kids if you say no good luck on being seen anywhere Right, but then you're like, oh, why is this drag queen reading to the children? And again, I have no listen I'm a live and let live guy. I I I think when we become puritans about sexuality we allow blackmail to happen and You know if someone's doing some with their consenting adults and the privacy of own home. It's none of my business Absolutely, I don't care what you're doing. It does not matter to me

Okay, and if it's a religious or spiritual that's between them and God God gave free will don't get mad at me. I live I'm trying to live the best I can I'm a knucker-draggers Weirdo, okay. I'm doing trying to do the best I can. I'm a knucker, dragger, weirdo, okay? I'm trying to do the best I can. I make no allusions to that, okay? But, you know, there's no reason why a man dressed like a truck stop hooker needs to be reading books to kindergartners. It's just, there's no logic to that.

Again, common sense says that's algebra, and these kids are trying to learn one twos and threes Sure, and it's it's submissive. I mean it's it's it's subversion. It's subversion and You know the last thing I want to say then we'll let you go is that I'm on this kind of thing on on Instagram Where I'm just I'm again, I got three million views which is the most I've had since they gave it back to me when I had to pay three grand for my my

Instagram back right I had to give them yeah I had to give them three grand and somebody this guy somebody yeah I gave somebody three grand they actually I gave him fifteen hundred up front going show me what you got then I'll pay the rest you know but this this guy had gotten all these adult film stars they They actually, I gave them $1,500 up front going, show me what you got, then I'll pay you the rest. Sure. You know? But this guy had gotten all these adult film stars had gotten their Instagrams back by paying this guy and he said, three grand, I'll get you back.

I go, I'll give you 15. Once I get back, I'll give you the next. He goes, deal. And so I did it. But when I got it back, I was getting like 5 million views. And then of course, because I just can't play nice in the sandbox, I wanted to press Instagram. So I started taking videos that were getting hundreds, if not millions of views, which I thought were politically incorrect, right? Like Instagram has signed off on that.

I'm going to see if I can do a reaction video where I just point to the video and see if they get upset and they got upset. Even though I wasn't doing anything. So now it's back but the point of this whole thing is that I believe political correctness is a tool to drive us apart and again if we're bringing emotion to everything you're never going to solve any problems and this kind of move right now the final thing I want to talk to you about now I'll let you go is this movement to outlaw anti-Semitism. I think it's going to blow up in their face and they could push it so hard at the bottom of a barrel that the facade of any kind of First Amendment may be destroyed But I think it's gonna blow up in their face. It's gonna be the Streisand effect

Because what's gonna happen particularly white people are gonna go why are you passing this law? When white people have been getting murked on social media for the last 10 years being blamed for everything all the time and now you're now we're just kind of calling out people for doing the exact same thing and now you're passing laws that we can't we can't do it what are your thoughts on the whole anti-semitism bill that's that they're trying like this whole thought about the the right in particular which is the if there is a the There, there's a butthurt about Zionism. Uh, what are your thoughts on it? Well, let's say that Trump has made a lot of enemies within the two way community.

Right. After he said, take the guns first. And he banned the bump stocks. I don't think this is going to do them any favors with the one a community as well. And believe it or not, there is a pretty vibrant, uh, one a communities, particularly on YouTube. I don't know if you guys ever watch the YouTube First Amendment auditors that are on there. They're basically like cop watchers, but they go to all these different various governments, institutions, and installations, and they basically just have their cameras. They film any type of government employee

or official or even police who show up. And they often expose that they don't know their own laws. And I don't mean to get too far off on that tangent, but I say all that because there's this saying within the 1A community, the auditor community, which is our rights, Trump feelings every single time. Your rights always are more important than somebody's feelings. And I feel like that's exactly what's happening right now with Trump is that

he wants to try to make the Zionist faction of his regime and potentially other people, Israel supporters feel like they have a safe space in the U S so that they can't have their feelings hurt with any types of critiques or criticisms of what the Israeli government is doing and Here's the kicker. I Looked it up when when Trump first signed that executive order Anybody within the country they don't have to be a citizen has the right to freedom of expression You don't have to be a citizen Anywhere within the borders and boundaries of the US you have have the right to first, the first amendment to the freedom of expression. So he's basically turning that on its head.

And you know, unfortunately, that the people who should be speaking out about it, the right conservatives are too busy licking his boots and, you know, cheering them on. So that part of it is entirely frustrating to me. It's certainly not going to paint them very well in the annals of history. Anybody who stomps on free speech is always the enemy. So, um, yeah, I do think you're right. I think it will escalate. I don't think that this is a smart move at all. And I, I'm wondering where it's coming from.

It could be his Zionist cabinet or his funders, uh, but it seems, it seems like this is one of those things that maybe somebody whispered in his ear. Unfortunately, he's ran with it. I think it's going to blow up in their face. I don't know what that means. The last question, the future of Israel, what do you think the future of Israel is? Well, obviously we have to defend Israel, right, even if that means completely leveling Palestine completely with carpet bombs. That's a good question, man. I don't see its influence shifting much, at least over the next four years. I think Trump is too deeply indebted to his financial backers, Muriel Adelson being one of them.

There's big money within people who have the Zionist views, pro-Israel views. So I don't think, I assume we're gonna send more billions of dollars, more equipment, whatever it takes. And all of this is on the back of it potentially being a false flag. I'm sure that you guys did the research after October 7th. I mean, like, this is all just completely frivolous and, you know, there's a lot of

shady evidence surrounding it. So yeah, to me, this could have been something that was orchestrated from the beginning as a land grab and even worse, you know. So it's, yeah, I don't see it changing much, unfortunately, not for quite a while. It's so sad, dude. And so obvious. It's a false flag. It's so obvious. I don't know if Hamas is the smartest people I've ever seen. The way they make Israel look so bad. They bring out these hostages. They look great. I mean, like they parade them out. I think I'm about to watch a hot dog eating contest, the way they

put them in front of a table. I'm like, what is going on here? And then they bring out the, the, the Palestinian prisoners, Israel, and they all look like they just got back from Auschwitz. And it's just like, you're losing on every, every front, you're losing on every front. I understand that AI is so smart, but you can't control it. I think it's only going to get worse and worse and worse. Or I think people are going to get more and more knowledgeable about

the whole history of Zionism and people are going to wake up and into the U S Liberty, nine 11 JFK. I think it's coming. And you know, I love Jews, but I don't think Israel has the right to exist at the cost of the Palestinians. Absolutely. I'll second that brother. It's definitely bad optics to say the least.

And, um, yeah, it's, it's been horrific to watch what's happened, you know, and I don't say that lightly, it's been. Absolutely atrocious. So it's a trial and everyone just sits there and just, everyone just sits there and just everyone has just short-term memory. Just short-term memory. They don't remember 9-11. They don't remember any of these wars of this bullshit that's going on and this notion that we should be killing people so that they don't kill us even though it never seems like that's an option.

Like this delusion of grandeur. Anyways, Jason, great show. Thank you for coming out. One more time, push where they can find you. Absolutely, brother. Well, hey, I just wanted to say, let me know. I'll send you out one of these for your kids as well. We'd love that, dude.

I'll send you my, before you log off, I'll give you my number and we'll go from there. And I'll be able to send you my address to send me those things for sure. Thank you, brother. Appreciate that. Yeah. I mean, our home hub is the freethoughtproject.com guys. So check that out.

There at the top on the tab, you can see our podcast. Hopefully I'll have Sam on sometime soon, but we've had a lot of excellent guests. We had Dr. Ron Paul, Dr. Robert Malone, who I mentioned earlier, Ben Swan, Peter Schiff, Tom Woods. I mean, all the legends of Liberty and, uh, and some, you know, we even just recently had a dude talking about the Malaysia MH370 flight that disappeared. He's like an expert. This dude named Ashton Forbes on Twitter.

I want to get them on too. Dude, get them. It was a mind blowing podcast. So definitely Yeah, yeah, dude, get them. It was a mind-blowing podcast. So definitely check out our podcast, guys. But otherwise, you can find me on Twitter at JasonBassler1 or Instagram at Jason.Ebassler. What a wonderful conversation, guys. Again, go to samtriplee.com, get my dates, and let's break down this episode. Get ready for a Las Vegas-style action at Bet MGM, the king of online casinos!

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He's like Jason too. He's on the front lines. Yeah. I mean like, dude, you listen, when you are a nihilist, an atheist, an anarchist of any Thought right a politics or anything it can get scary dude and like people who are emotionally invested May not like that and I'm with them on a lot. So I'm with them. I'm totally with them again, the drug discussion is a real discussion because

ultimately You should only be in jail if you're if you're violent committing violent crimes or or threatening violent crimes or stealing so ultimately I if I do drugs I shouldn't be in jail but we also know if we don't do something to discourage people, people will just do drugs on the street and our neighborhoods go to crap. So I don't know what the answer is to that. I think, I mean, the answer is, is you kind of touched on it, but the answer is, and we've seen this even in like rat studies, you know, where they administer drugs to rats. You'd have rats that were alone would do this cocaine

water until they killed themselves and then when they if they were with other people with a community they would not and the answer is to just uplift as many people as possible you know to bring back the nuclear family where possible and we're not possible to find a replacement for that in the community that's got to be the answer. We've got to heal the society. That's a big problem and it does it's not a political problem. It's something that people like us have to solve. Well it is political because we've seen this play. We shouldn't look to the answers is what I'm

saying from the politicians. It's something that we should internalize and see as our own responsibility I think. To reach out to your friends and family and find them where they are and do what you can. Well it gets it gets and see it as our own responsibility, I think, to reach out to your friends and family and find them where they are and do what you can. Well, it gets through, you know, they pulled this playbook they did with the natives, and then they did with the black community, and now they're doing it with suburban,

big city and suburban whites, which is flood them, take away the jobs empower women And listen, I have daughters Of course, I want my daughters to be able to achieve it the most they can achieve But when you as a society and a government make it your decision to promote women over men That then we get this thing where men lose their purpose men's purpose is to provide that's what we love to do We love to provide. The peas, and I got this off of a Whitlock show, Jason Whitlock show, not off of, I'm not coming out.

The men are about the peas. Protect, provide, procreate. That's what men like to do. And once you take away a lot of that stuff, it really goes, it really is crazy how desperate and lost men become and they they try to fill the void with drugs and alcohol because it takes them out of themselves so I again I'm not Johnny we have discussion all the time on a lot of

shows we battle how we all the time I would love that they brought back you know manufacturing to America. I still think they can. Uh, unfortunately it's probably going to be more AI than anything. And then you're going to see the rest of the world just implode because. There's going to be no jobs to manufacture shit. It sucks. I don't know what the answer is.

It's kind of crazy. It's just kind of, I think it's entirely possible that it's just something that cannot be reversed the manufacturing having left this country. I just I it's it's on so but how do you give people jobs? I Mean well first of all looking to the government to give people jobs not the answer. Yeah, I agree But yeah, I don't I don't know man., I just, I think that they have effed this thing to the point that it's un-effable now. Un-un-effable. Does that make, you know what I'm saying?

I mean, it's just irreparable to use English. I worry that it's that way. I'm still here, by the way, my camera over here. Okay, I like it. This should be the whole show. Even if people people are on the show it should just be on me as I talk and listen this should be the show. Hi oh great point Jason that was great I wish you guys could see what he how he looks but the show is just me maybe we should offer Johnny just a just an option where for five dollars a month you could just

watch me watch the show Oh like LeBron cam where they have LeBron cam Yeah, a Sam cam just Sam cam. We're just like that's premium. Yeah, that's premium Johnny that is premium But yeah, I don't I don't man those are just those are just huge questions that I don't have answers for I mean You know my inclination is to to see the government get smaller and less regulation. People can't, Johnny. People can't come to grips with that.

They just cannot understand slimming the government. They just lose their mind. They just lose their mind. They don't understand how much overspending is being done. And it's so so effing ridiculous. Well I'm hoping the Doge thing will shine a light on that because I think their plan I think they have a real PR plan to leak not leak out but you know meet out these stories over months about the government waste and all these because there's no I don't think they're gonna keep dropping it

all at once like a waterfall like this is gonna come and drips and draps did you see that and this was from CNN that the White House this is their headline White House is drafting order to initiate education departments elimination it's not confirmed that it will happen but this is this is the lead the Trump administration has begun drafting an executive order that would kick off the process of eliminating the Department of Education. The latest move by President Donald Trump to swiftly carry out his campaign promises, two sources familiar with plans told CNN. That, to me, is no way to spend that as a bad thing.

That's Well, here's the problem, Johnny. Happy with it. As somebody who has a daughter who is autistic, IPs are very important. That's where you get like kind of like a personal, like help with your daughter, with your autistic child. A lot of people are concerned those would go away if you did that.

So, again, I think we have to get like almost surgical with our cuts. What are we cutting? What are we saving? I think, you know... I think it's time to take it down to the foundation and then bring back, you know, thin add to that. I think it's just too, you can't say it would just be a monstrosity if you try to do what you just said. I think it'll just be all these weird. So eliminate it, then rebuild it.

Yeah, I think so. I think so, because it's just been, think about how long they spent screwing the country up. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm with you, Johnny. I think that's an interesting take. It's a nuclear. I do believe like you have to get rid of all this unnecessary

spending. I'm sorry. Yeah. And like, dude, we got to get rid of all of these BS cultural Marxist bullshit, you know, and USAID is a big part of that man. And so cut it down. We weren't talking about this a ton before and now like suddenly it's just obvious that this has to be done away with you know because it's it's totally I mean it's what you said during the show it's it's at the core of so many of the things we hate I mean that that are bad for the world and for our country even more importantly. that are bad for the world and for our country even more importantly.

Like just gut like dude, I'm sorry. Get rid of critical race theory. Get rid of it. Yeah. No, did you see the Rubio interview where he was like, you know, we weren't trying to lobotomize us aid, you know, we weren't trying to cut it out, but they were just completely refusing to comply with us like like they weren't they they acted like they weren't part of Like, like they weren't, they, they acted like they weren't part of the government. Like they weren't accountable to anyone. Like that they were, they were more like global aid versus us aid. Uh, and, and he was like, then we decided like, all right, we're not going to play ball. We're going to strip it. That's my opinion. That's my opinion. I am really not enjoying this right now with me just on the screen. I'm going to be honest with you. I thought you, thought you you boy you really seem to love it there for a second. No, I don't and now I don't it seems really weird Now it's just like me hearing voices in my head. Yeah, I just I I'm we're going through all this shit and

It's just like what what USA aid has funded is absolutely nuts AID has funded is absolutely nuts. Like, dude, going off on a George Soros shit? Like they funded, they gave George Soros 20 million dollars so he could buy off all of the prosecutors. Like that to me is absolutely insane. George Soros, who? George Soros! Has plenty of money already. He doesn't need money. Johnny, it's absolutely insane when Soros who George Soros has plenty of money already he

doesn't Johnny it's absolutely insane when you see that 20 mil to his prosecutors fun doesn't make any sense yeah I mean and then you look at all I guarantee you once they start drilling down into all the projects they have ongoing overseas like you saw Bill Gates was out there giving an interview today saying that he's worried that this will cause millions of deaths Because they have USAID has been integral to his projects around the world when you I guarantee when they start drilling down Into all the things that they've got their hands in it. Yeah, it's gonna be it We're gonna be like why weren't we are gonna be shocked to our core and what the Fed has funded through USAID

Yeah, I think so everything you hate has been funded through USA aid terrorism domestic terrorism Domestic political Politicians like Johnny, let's say You why you get 20 mil to, to, um, this, this George Soros, right? This fund for prosecutors you take, and let's say source throws another mail in, so it's 21 mil.

You could find seven of the biggest cities and throw each of those prosecutors who are going to do what you want, which is complete another chaos, $3 million to win their election. That changes the game on a local level. Of course it does. Yeah. Of course it does. Uh, yeah. No, man, it's, you know, he brought what Jason brought up was also interesting because he talked about how we might be Hmm going from one form of bad government to another when you think about now Trump introducing the sovereign wealth fund Which could that's scary another form of this though. It could just be hey, we're getting rid of this and now we're introducing a sovereign wealth Fund to to do the same things but just you know with a different agenda, maybe

Kind of by the government buys tick-tock Kind of creepy, right? Yeah, it's super creepy because you know The government is gonna run it and then it's like if the government's running it. What about my free speech bitch? Oh Yeah, I mean forget about it. It ain't happening Oh, yeah, I mean forget about it. It ain't happening Okay, I do but I mean I'm liking I'll get rid of that I know they want to absorb us a into the the the defense the put budget which isn't a good idea either Right because then you just gonna be funding terrorist groups all over the country all of the world so you could so you could go And fucking bomb the shit out of them later I will say one thing out

of defense that I did like was did you see that they are going to start first of all why why journalists need a permanent home in the Pentagon I've never understood but for a while now in the Pentagon they've had office spaces for certain publications and for the first time Trump has said that they're going to rotate some of them out. So you've got like NPR being and a lot of these like left-wing, I think it was like the Times maybe and a couple others, are getting rotated out for more like One America news and are getting rotated out for more like, like one America news and, uh, Oh, it was bright Bart, bright. Bart's going to have an office now in the Pentagon.

Isn't that crazy? Well, it's interesting that he's letting all, uh, he's letting all these, uh, these independent people come into the press conferences now, which is, I think is important. I think that's important, but yeah, I don't know why journalists need an office I don't need to get it, dude. No. Well, it just needs you being in bed more and sympathizing with the people you're supposed to be uh covering It's a big it's like the journalists flying along with politicians. It's you know, they get more inside intel that way But they also end up

just being friends with them and not wanting to tell the truth Well and kind of buying into the hype, you know what I mean? And that's the worst thing That's the death of journalism is when you start buying into the hype So yeah, it's crazy. So again, I like things Trump's doing. I also looked through it through a lens of guarded optimism. I'm not going to get fully excited. I'm going to support him. If he gets rid of the Fed and the IRS, come on, dude. Let's go.

If you get rid of the Fed, the IRS, and USA, come on. Is he not after the greatest two months of all time? Absolutely. Now, do I think he will? Now that it seems like the terrorists were just a political ploy because it seems like they're not happening now, at least with Canada, do I think we could get rid of, they'd have to cut a lot, man, unless they just want to increase the deficit and they're okay with deficits.

And so I don't, I don't know if that's going to happen, but I would love for it to. I love how everybody took like Trump putting Trudeau over his knee and spanking him as Trudeau winning. You just see the left. It doesn't matter. Well, I get it though because there's a lot of the stuff Trudeau announced was just stuff that they had already said they were going to do like last year and he just put it out like it was some new thing that they were doing and I, and I saw a lot of that stuff. Was that what they were saying? So, okay.

Interesting. Yeah. The one thing that he announced, the only new thing that he announced apparently was the fentanyl czar, uh, whatever that means one person. Well, isn't that crazy that we all thought most, a lot of the fentanyl is coming from Mexico, but it's really coming from Canada. Or a big chunk of it. Never would have guessed that Yeah, never would have guessed that. No never would have guessed that dude and that they're labeling the cartels

Terrorist organizations, which I find feel about that. I don't know how I feel about that You know Because something must be done about I mean, they're just running roughshod over Well, dude, they've completely corrupted Arizona politics. It's crazy that Katie Hobbs is like, she's taking money from them in like shady property deals. This is what we got shut down. Like, listen, our government's corrupt, but I want our politicians to be the corrupt ones,

not some cartels telling our corrupt politicians what to do. Cause they will, we know one thing about our politicians. They will do whatever the party tells them to do. They are whores, bro. They are only fans getting a thousand guys running trains on them. Whores. It used to be, you know, that I can't remember that FBI guy that got killed by the cartel and then the American government kind of went Flip mode on the cartels for a while and then it became a rule after that. I can't remember the guy's name That you don't mess with feds, right? But I think we may see that kind of you know that Gentlemen's agreement between the two organizations Ended here and then things could get really ugly. Oh, so you think the cartels could go after US government people?

I mean, why not, man? If it really gets to that, we're there desperate, you know? Well, it's going to be the CIA versus US military. That's the craziest part of all this is like we're paying both sides. It's so crazy to me. Yeah, no, you're, you're right. Uh, it's, I mean, I can't, it's the first time in a while where I can't really predict what's going to be happening in a few months. You know what I mean? It's we're at a singularity, political singularity here. I don't know what the hell's gonna happen.

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including that Epstein threatened Gates over an affair he had. The two met a few times, Gates says, to discuss philanthropy. Do you think, looking back at that moment, that you were being played? She's giving you an altitude. Yeah. In retrospect, I was foolish to spend any time with him and he sort of got time with various people by spending time with other people.

So yes, I think I was- What did you just say? I thought it would help me with global health philanthropy. In fact, it failed to do that. And really? Yeah. Yeah. Your father was a eugenics, you're full of shit and you, and your daughter

wonders why nobody likes her. And in that same interview, he says it was basically just one dinner he had. And then I just want to, if for anybody who might be inclined to believe that, just listen to what his wife said about many things that I did not like, not like that he'd had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein. He was evil personified. I had nightmares about it afterwards. Melinda French Gates opens up following her and Bill.

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it's not coming out yet, but we have a guy who's about to come on. Uh, we're about to release that episode. He's a J sixer. And he was basically talking about how, what? Yes. I just said, yes, great episode. Yeah. Great episode. He had a, he has a story about someone who was in the room with Linda Gates and she was talking about how she was pissed because Bill Gates

wouldn't come back home because he's having so much. Allegedly, allegedly, we can't get into that here, right? I mean, what the thing that Jay Jay was known for? Gates was enjoying so much of that he wasn't coming back home. It's the allegation. If you want to hear more about it, check out the tinfoil that's about to drop. We have Larry Ellison here this is kind of unbelievable this is the guy who is going to be you know embedded in the government now effectively with the Stargate project here we go. The police will be on their best behavior because

we record we're constantly recording watching and recording everything that's going on. Citizens will be on their best behavior. Can you see it? Because we're- No, it just stopped. Oh, hold on. Can you see me? Yeah, I can see you, but I can't see the video. Oh, that's weird.

It said it was sharing. Hold on, this is Larry Ellison. I'll try it again. Recording everything that's going on. Can you hear it? Citizens will be on their best behavior. All right, it's recording. Because we're-

Dude, the guy who looks like he loves like just the most deprived shit. He's telling us about being on our best behavior. Yeah, well, he's talking about universal AI surveillance is what you're guessing. Of course. And it's he says it's unimpeachable. You can't hear the cars have camera, you know, cameras on time, using cars and camera, camera cars like car cameras on cars kind of applications integrating them. If we can use AI and we're using AI to monitor the video. So if that altercation had occurred, it occurred in Memphis, the chief of police would be immediately notified. So anything happens, the police are immediately notified that looks sketchy or the authorities or the CIA or the FBI, of course. That scares me. I don't want that guy having anything to do.

Yeah. People think I'm crazy when I'm like, I'm happy that fucking Chinese AI came and just curb stomped these guys. I'm happy. It's fascinating. Deep seek. Yeah. Trump pulled Fauci's security clearance, or his security

detail rather. Can you hear this? Yeah. You can hear it. Fauci made a lot of money. They all did. So if they felt that strongly, I think that certainly I would not take responsibility. He was asked there if he would take responsibility if something happened to Fauci after Putin. We took some off other people too. But you can't have a security detail for the rest of your life because you work for government. Can we take an officer?

Well, we'll see what happens. Would you feel partially responsible if something were to happen to, say, Dr. Fauci or John Bolton? No. we'll see what happens you know they all made a lot of money they can have their own security at this weekend that's wonderful if you if you're so right why do you need security why do you need a pardon why do you know if you didn't do you know i don't need a pardon but you took it

still plenty of people there are people, Dave Smith pointed this out, that did not accept them. They didn't feel they were necessary because they didn't do anything wrong. Yeah. I agree. If you'd like to hear the rest of this episode, subscribe to Broken Simulation in your podcasting app or check us out at youtube.com slash Sam Trippoli. Aaron, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning.

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