Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #90: Proof Of UFOs With Shaan Joshi

Episode Date: May 14, 2018

Welcome to another exciting episode of Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli. This episode Sam and Ryan welcome from "The Fanatics" podcast, Shaan Joshi, to break down the actual data on UFOs. Please check ou...t Shaan's new podcast "The Fanatics" that's available on iTunes. Thank you for your passion and we appreciate your support.

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Starting point is 00:00:22 What the fuck are you guys even talking about? Are you ready to get your mind blown from the game? Revolution will be podcasted. Yeah! Yes! The podcast with the best hair in the game. Not only Ryan Davison's, but my hair is on point today. It's looking pretty good. Haircuts are getting way too expensive in this town, but that will be another episode of conspiracies. Why is the price of hair cuts going up? Is it something about the Middle East peace process? What is causing hair cuts to quadruple in price.
Starting point is 00:01:05 You know, and I had a girl cut my hair today that look exactly like somebody from a Tim Burton like the nightmare after her Halloween. Exactly. I'm like, oh, today, I'm like, oh God, and she did a great job, okay? So the point is just because somebody looks like they're the walking dead. Doesn't mean they can't cut good hair. Welcome to to to to to the to the the the the the the to Tim the thoil thoil thoil thoil tip thoilfoy thoilfoy thoilfoylap thoilet thoilet. tipe tipileteololuilete thoiletcuxeole thoomcoole hair. thoomcoole. thoomorrow. thoomorrow. thoomorrow. thoomcoyuucoolk. thoomk. thoomfoyn't cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut. thoom. thoom. thuuuupe. thupe. thuice. thuice. tip. tip. tipe. tipe. toole. tooloomorrow. toolooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomorrow. toye. tod they can't cut good hair. Welcome to Timfoyle Hat. You know who we are. You know what we're here to do. And that is fucking rock hard. Back in the saddle. This is one of four podcasts we will be doing in the next three days because I'll be going out of town to go see my mama and my brother and
Starting point is 00:01:40 we're going to go, I'm very excited about getting back home. I.. going to bang out a couple ones. They are all killer, killer topics. I'm very excited. We're getting into it, a lot of crazy stuff. But before we go, we got a lot, we gotta push the product. Guys, June 1st, June 2nd. It is the tinfoil hat comedy night. We are at COPS in San Francisco on June 1st, 8 o'clock show, and then we're at the punchline in Sacramento. Now here's what's really weird. All we've been doing is pushing the June 1st because it's such a giant comedy club. But yet we've sold way more tickets in Sacramento. Sacktown.
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Starting point is 00:03:21 ticket sellers and the prices are insane. Make sure you go, I went there today I'm like $220 I'm like what are we Hamilton? Who's gonna go see that? It's crazy. Go make sure you go to the Cobbs, Cobbs Comedy Club or the punchline. Don't buy third party tickets man. I wish I'd put up our flyer right. It's a nice flyer. You know and then tomorrow night is comedy tod. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. C. C. I th. I th. C. I th. I th. th. I th. th. I th. tho tho-c-today. I tho-today tho-today tho- tho-today. I thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty tho- th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th-tod-tod-tod-tod-tod-tod-tod-tod-tod-tod-up. I th-up. I th-up. I th-up. I they'd put up our flyer right? It's a nice flyer. You know and then tomorrow night is comedy chaos and guys the dojo is a rocking. We have awesome shows going there all the time. Have I forgotten anything? I know if you notice right here our good friends from Aluminatus Aluminatus on Instagram since they know we can't be sponsored by the
Starting point is 00:04:04 Illuminati. They're gonna go ahead and throw a little product our way. And today's guest, we might as well bring him on in here. Got a little something for you, buddy. What's it? That's from the Illuminitas right there. So they're kind of the premier cannabis industry. So I know you quit this morning. Look at this. I have another reason to keep going right now. We gave you weed before we introduce you. He's got a new podcast. It's called fanatics, right? And it's on the laugh factory? It's fanatics podcast. It's on the laugh factory network.
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Starting point is 00:08:55 Oh, that's awesome, man. I'm that guy. I'm back on Mondays. So this will come out Monday the 14th. I have a show at the Laugh Factory on Monday the 14, 745 so rush out and buy tickets and come out. Right now it is me and Whitney Cummings I would say. That's all you need. That's all you need. That's all you need. Who hooked you up with that number? It was a guy named this really young mogul. Sammy Triple.. Semi triple. Semi is is is is is is is is is is is is a th. Semi is a th. Semi is a young. Semi is a young is a young is a young is a young is a young. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. by the way. He's doing like so many things right now it's crazy. Your special was great. Oh thank you. I watched the first edit in
Starting point is 00:09:29 the first hour last night. It was so good. When's it coming out? I mean hopefully Dana, my girlfriend is going, she's going to go through and clean it all up. Right, right. There's a couple and she was the one running around the room. Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the. Yeah. the. the. the. Yeah. the. Yeah. the. Yeah. Yeah. the. Yeah. the. Yeah. Yeah. the. the. Yeah. Yeah. the. Yeah. Yeah. the. Yeah. the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. Yeah. I. I. I. I. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I....................................................... the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the was the one running around the room being great. Oh yeah, tell me what to do. Yeah, she was great. She's, I mean, with Dano I got some big stuff coming. I'm super excited, but that will be down the road on that. I'm excited to get to you because we did a, we did an Anunaki episode that I enjoyed so much. And it's amazing all the listeners. We don't have to agree on every conspiracy. I prefer we didn't.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You know, it's just like you can believe in something and you cannot, it doesn't mean it's trash, we're shiols, we're just agents of disinformation. It's okay that you don't agree, agree and like sports. It's like, just because everybody's not a clipper, a Raider, or a Dodgers fan doesn't mean they own valid points or they don't like sports. It's just like, it's okay. You don't believe in the Anonaki or you do believe in the Anonaki. I personally think there's something there. That's just me.
Starting point is 00:10:34 You don't have to believe in it. And listen, this is not a show for people to come on and for me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to me to me to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to challenge and for me to challenge and for me to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge to challenge me to challenge me to me to me to challenge me to challenge them, I don't want that. I do really like Art Bell's style of just like, okay, you're on. We're gonna sue what you're saying, we're gonna go with, it's real, let's explore it. It is a mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain and consider an idea without accepting it. Yeah, I just want to hear what you have to say. Without emotion, just to entertain it, I don't know if I can get to that moment you know what I mean I'm Armenian Italian we know we all have things to work to work for it felony quick dog but I enjoy hearing it I want to hear I don't want people to come on here because you know like conspiracy theorists they're almost like street dogs you know it's like they roam the streets at night you know it can be they they they also they they the they they they they they they they they the they they they the they they the they they the they the they they the the they the the they they they they they they the they they they they they they they they they they they the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to the try to to to to to try to to the the the to the the the they the they they they they they they they they they they they theribal. And they can be, well, they could be also be very sensitive to being called crazy names
Starting point is 00:11:26 and all that stuff and it could drive them, you know, so I don't want them to think if they come on here, it's going to be just like this mental chess game. It's more like, let's not be triggered people. Yeah, I just want to have fun. I just want to hear what you have to say what you to say what you to say what you to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say to say, and say, and to say, and th you to say, and say, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and I th. And, and I th. And, and I th. And, and I th. And, and I th. And, and I th. And, th. And, th. And, th th th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the. And, tha. And, tha. And, tha. And, tha. And, tha. And, th. And, th. And, th. And a thousand times. I am not a flat earth guy, but that doesn't mean he wants to do a whole episode on it. I'm like, I'm like, okay, I'll listen to it. It's not my thing. I'm not a sports guy. Sam and you guys just talked something like I spoke another language and that's fine. I'm cool with it. I don't need you guys. No more sports. Sports aren't real. Yeah, it's like. It's like. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's like. It's. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's like. It's. It's. It's like. It's. It's. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'll. I. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll like. I'll like. I'll like. I'll like. I'll like. I'll like, I'll like, I'll like, I'll like, I'll like, I'll like, I'll like, I'll like, I'll like. I'll like. I'll believing it's okay Stop going crazy if you like to show enjoy if you don't don't watch the show There you go and just smoke some Illuminica black as you do it. I love it So I was like Sean what do you want to talk about and I'm glad what you brought up was something we've never really and it happened like right underneath the right before it turned to 2018 yeah on December 16th 2017 the US Department of Defense released. the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th you th you th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the you don't the you don't th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. the the the the the the tho the tho the tho tho to the the the the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th underneath the, right before it turned to 2018. Yeah. On December 16th, 2017, the U.S. Department of Defense released a video showing an encounter between a Navy F-A-18 Super Hornet and an unknown object. It was released by the Defense Department's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification
Starting point is 00:12:39 Program. That's a mouthful, but that is what they do in the military. That's what they, but that is what they do in the military. So what's that it's the threat identification program. That's the government that's they don't call them UFOs anymore in the defense. I guess they're called whatever that phrase is the advanced aerospace threats is what they're referred to now, which is what the name of that program was. So does this all get spurred on by Delong's appearance on Rogan? No, this is way, way, way, way, way, I think. But the, the, the, the, basically acknowledging of a program, does it get, is that the first step into. Disclosure is what you speak about. Yes, disclosure. I don't, you know, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:13:21 the way I look at it is like, I understand why science is skeptical to kind of embrace or launch inquiries into the field as a broad topic, but I think there are specific instances that demand scientific inquiry and are kind of the reason science exists. You know, and I know like you were talking about the flat earth stuff before, like science is kind of a weird moment right now where it's having a hard time breaking through with the truth so it makes even the embracer about idea like this harder but there are specific instances like this like this one. But why do you think ultimately that that that that are the reason science exists and when you see scientists like I have a couple quotes here thi. to thi. thi. thrown. I I have a thi. thi. I have a thi. I have a thi. thi. I have a thi. thi. I have a thi. I have a thi. thi. I have a thi. I have a thi. I have a the. I have a the. I have a th. I have a the the the. th. I have a the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I have a their. I have a their. I have a their. I have a their. I have a their. I have a their. I their. I. I. I. I. I have a their. I. I. thr. I have a thr. the. the. th. th. th. th. t. te. te. toda. t disclosure. Here we have a US government video. We have radar data backed up by visual sighting and video
Starting point is 00:14:10 evidence of a craft that can do maneuvers beyond our capability. We have it on video, New York Times, government officials, so you could argue disclosures already happen. Right. It's just a matter of how much you want to acknowledge it or not. Do you think the distrust in science isn't really distrust in science, but more of scientists? I mean, I don't know. I have a hard time understanding it personally. I think... I mean, you got to look at the history of time. Let's just take smoking, where where scientists came out and literally said smoking was good for you. And that's where we've seen where these people who have the the history, their their their their their their, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, trust.. trust. trust. trust. trust. trust. trust. trust. trust. trust. trust. trust. trust. trust. trust. the, the, that's where we've seen where these we've seen people who have been bought and sold you know when we when we when you become a doctor you take this oath right to like basically agree to take care of people profit and all that stuff and then we see as the older you get and the
Starting point is 00:14:58 more you go through the health you know industry you realize that is just lip service well you know just on that point specifically years a lot of people say science news has kind of a crisis right now because you'll see like for instance to use let's use chocolate or red wine as an example if you follow the news you'll see one week. Chocolate is good for you high cholesterol oh next to the try to the true. ne. toeak red wine good for the heart next red wine will kill you. So there. So the the there is is. So the the the the. So the the. So the the. So the the. So th. So th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the th. the the. the. the. the. the. to the. to toeee. toeee. toe. the toe. the the the toe. the the the the. the. wine, good for the heart. Next, red wine will kill you. So there is kind of a public information crisis in that aspect. But I think what you're getting to is really, I think there's, it's more about public education and I think there's a failure of science education and civics education in particular right now. But in terms of science, to me, all that science revolves around of course it's going to get become a political tool it's going to become propaganda but all science
Starting point is 00:15:47 should revolve around is a scientific method and what that is meaning you have an experiment hypothesis and then in order to prove that experiment you have to be able to do that experiment again and and get those same results. I agree so so science of course is a proving science is going to be wrong but within science it never claims to be to be a to be a to be a to be a true to be a true true to be a true true to be a true to be a true to be a true to be a true to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be. to be to be. to be to be to be a to be. to be a to be a to be. to be a to be. to be a to be a to be a the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tr. true. true. true. true. true. true. the true. the true. the th. the thi. thi. the thi. thi. the thi. approving. Science is going to be wrong. But within science, it never claims to be an absolute truth like religion or like a faith. And the whole thing is trying to prove itself to prove itself right, which is why you have competing ideas and competing ideologies within a similar set of facts or subfacts. Right. I agree with that. And I think the key, I think what people want to believe in is that we just want the to to their, to be just their, their, their, tho, the, th. thi, the, thi, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to be, tha, tha, tha, tha, thau, to, to, to, to, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru-a, tru-a, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, tru-a, tru-a, tru-s, tru-s, truth, truth, tru-a, truth, truth, truth, tru, tru, tru, tru, tr key, I think what people want to believe in is that we just want to be trustworthy of all the information we get. We think that there is this, it's why people follow the mainstream
Starting point is 00:16:32 media so blindly because they're so busy in their life. They don't have time to fact check anything. So because they're trustworthy people, they trust that these people have the integrity to deliver them the truth. And what that may not always be the same. So everything that you take, unfortunately, you have to do your own research on. And you have to. And you know, the thing about these days is you have the tools to do that if you choose to. But I always tell tell tell tell tell tell tell their their their th. their th. th. th. their th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that that that that that that that that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. So, that. So, that. So, that, that, that, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. But I always tell people, if, you know, having the responsibility over your own information means also reading stuff,
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Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah, there's that. I get that all the time. I get that all the time. And it's just like, I mean, like, no, that's not true. That's so soon. I go, just because you ever heard about it doesn't mean it's not relevant. It's not relevant. some of these cases bring that up to me because I'm not saying that these are one way or another, but I think the apparent established facts which are agreed upon and in public demand more inquiry into them and more light onto them than we currently have.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Were you shocked at when this came out how it didn't register at all? I mean like there was no reaction in my opinion to it's in the fucking New York Times with government release video. You know what I mean? We're the video of the incident, you know, but then, but I'm not shocked at all. Because, because, because, I'll tell you why I'm not shocked. Because, because, because the questions that it asks on its face are so audacious and the possibilities of them are so fantastic that knowing how the academic community is and the way that it's it's funded it's built to kind of dismiss things like this not accept them and and look into
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Starting point is 00:20:16 they would catch us because of weird shit. You know, but they've been calling for disclosure and you know, you know, Stinsfieldberg, John Podesta, all these people, you know, and they're like, well, the American people can take it. Then I just, the way people reacted to it, we're so just like, we can't even accept the earth this round. Yeah, it's just not going to enter to to to to to to to the to enter to the to enter the to e e. the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their th. thi. their. thi. they're. they're. they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the. the. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're just just just just, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're, the even accept the earth this round. Yeah, it's just not going to enter the public. I bet most people didn't even hear about it. I do joke about it on stage. Like whenever a major event happens in the world, I'd love to go on Instagram and see how the Instagram models are taking it. They couldn't give a rat's ad about anything. That's actually, I think, would probably be an important new news maximum if it breaks the Instagram model Matrix and they post about it, you know it's a major event.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Yeah, yeah, and even when they do care about it, it becomes this huge event. Like Cardi D or whatever name is, Carly B. She has like, she's going off on like the MK Ultra and everyone's like, oh my god, she's talking about it. Like, that's how crazy we are that when it actually resonates with insanely hot women, then it must be an issue. Well, you know, like, I would say this, if, if UFOs tomorrow flew information over Washington, D.C. Would that be enough, you think, for people to acknowledge it? Yeah, yeah. You think so? Well, I mean, like, I I totally I What that happened do you think if if if UFOs flew over Washington DC tomorrow and it was recorded and on the cover of most major papers in the United States Would you think that would be enough for people to believe it?
Starting point is 00:21:56 For me? Yeah, 100% that happened in 1952 UFOs flew over formation in Washington DC recorded? I have it all here, recorded on multiple radar stations, Washington National Airport, what it was known as before Dulles, over the period of July 21st to July 29th, flying information, multiple, multiple military jets confirming and scrambling and making contact and this was on the cover of the Washington Post and many major US newspapers in 1952 when it happened but still not enough that I believe yes but that's not that's not that's not that's a real photo you don't think that's real photo no no how about that photo behind it it not 1552 I doubt that they would have it right yeah yeah yeah but I have the information hold on you don't think tht that that that that th th th they they they they they they they they they they they they they they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd th th th they'd they'd th they'd they'd they'd th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi tho the thi tho the thi the thi thi thi thi thi doubt that they would have it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I have the information.
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Starting point is 00:23:16 trailing a tail, unlike anything I've seen. The at, so they sent one pilot up there, right? Yeah. And because they had all this, they had all the radar confirmation and they were having a hard time getting in the air visual confirmation. The guy goes up there, he sees him, he starts chasing him, he can't get him. They ask, do you see anything? Do you see anything? He goes, they are all around me. This is exact the response. They are all around me. What do I thrown. th. th. th. th. th th. th th. th th th. th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the th. th. the the the the the th. the th. the their their their the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. The guy. The guy. The guy. The guy. The guy. The guy. The guy. The guy. their. their. their. their. their. He. He. He. He. He their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their? As to what happened to him, I don't know when he came back, but he couldn't catch them. He said he tried to catch them, but he just couldn't. They were faster. And so this happened, two different incidents. One on July 21st and 22nd, and then from the July 26th to 29th, over confirmation. That wasn't enough. What if I told you that over Phoenix in 1997,
Starting point is 00:24:07 you had thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people have a confirmed sighting multiple visual recordings of a craft bigger than the size of a football field, that initially when it occurred the day after the governor, Fe Simington dismissed it. He had this big press conference, and he was like, thiked, thiiii, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, to, to, to, to, to, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho, to to to to to to to to to to to too, too, too press conference and he was like, we know what it is and they brought out an alien in like a joke outfit and there's like, see this is it. But if you talk to him now, but if you talk to him now he says he was just trying not to get people to panic. He try to get
Starting point is 00:24:35 answers for it forever but if you ask him when he think he goes, it absolutely was a different plan and that is the governor of Arizona speaking to the incident that occurred in 1997. If I'm an alien and I want to kidnap there's no better place to kidnap rednecks than desert people. No who's gonna believe of it's like Randy Quaid in Independence Day who's gonna believe Randy Quaid? The level of white trash in desert is like nothing you'll ever see. And they don't tan they just get red. They just no they beef. They b. They they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they just get red they just no they beef jerky That's what they do they go like leather yeah, they get leathery Nobody's gonna miss these guys You kidnap him you can probe for days so so so you're asked me what it will take I mean like I'm asking you I mean to me it seems like if you want to like if you to, it seems like there's already enough information for disclosure. Until someone likes Brian Williams, who I don't know how this guy has gotten back to this
Starting point is 00:25:32 level where like he's, he's people's choice for news. Yeah. But like, Brian, William goes, uh, welcome today to MSNBC. Today we're talking confirmed encounters with aliens. I think that's what's going to take. Well, you know, I mean, there are people who are very well regarded. I mean, what about Gordon Cooper? He's a goddam American hero.
Starting point is 00:25:56 He was a fighter pilot during World War II. He was one of the original astronauts on Mercury 7. After that, he became a highly decorated military officer who ran some of the most top-secret programs including he was a big part of the U2 spy plane and everything and this guy's a fucking astronaut, one of the original astronauts. And he'll tell you not only confirmed sightings of being in the air shortly after World War II, which is interesting we can go into that, but also while he was working running running a base, I forget which one, one of the ones out here on the West Coast about confirmed encounters that they had while
Starting point is 00:26:30 they were testing landing gear. And they were testing landing gear on dry lake beds, because it's very sensitive type of landing gear, right? And as they're doing this, they had a craft that approach. Actually landed three prongs. Are we playing halo now? Oh, here he is. In 51, about 1951. The Russians had that kind of technology back then? No.
Starting point is 00:26:56 So, how can you stop a first second? You definitely determined. Ryan told me the listto this video and which is great But it's like it takes like Why this guy doesn't like to live move his jaws when he talk he's a whole stroke. He's a god-deb American hero is what he is he deserves to be hurt he would have got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky kids that's what I'm getting from this video only you and Eddie would disrespect an astronaut Astron a fighter pilot he shot he's like he he he he he he he he he's he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he he he takes like like like like like like like like like like like like he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he takes he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he has has has has like like like like like like like like he t has has has has has has has like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like he he he he he he he he he he those pesky kids, that's what I'm getting from this video. Only you and Eddie would disrespect an astronaut. An astronaut, a fighter pilot, he shot down Nazis. He's like, this in this video, it's like three minutes of the guy-doh.
Starting point is 00:27:34 He shot Nazis out of the goddamn air. That there were objects that were intelligent control or was it? Well yeah, they weren't just random. They were flying, they were flying fighter formations, very definitely under positive control. They're just typical saucer-shaped, fighter formations. Double venticular. I think they were definitely piloted vehicles, each one with the pilot in it, and very definitely in communication. Let me just explain this so I can try.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Are we sure that's not an elderly Matthew McConaughey from the future? That's Gordon Cooper of Mercury 7. Why is this bull in the middle of the road here? All right. But what he's speaking to is shortly, I think it may have been during the Korean War or they were testing high speed aircraft after their their their their their their their their their their their their.. the been during the Korean War, or they were testing high-speed aircraft after World War II. So their information with this testing this new aircraft, some of the fastest aircraft we have at the time, and then that's when they're approached by these other craft, which are
Starting point is 00:28:32 flying in, they were flying in, they were flying in, they were flying in. They were flying in, they were flag information. They were flying in formation. OK. According to Gordon Coons, because they would have flights of more than four, they'd have flights of maybe 12 or 16. And when they'd make a turn, they'd cross the flights in under and they had to be in communication to be coordinated. Yeah, every once while one would zip off the side, just do a lateral maneuver out to the side.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Much as, you've ever seen the lights, the UFOs that they found over Clear Lake, California, you've seen those. This guy sounds like the dude that Tom Squirrel makes fun of from Louisiana. I was like, oh, oh, oh, wow, wow, wow. That is a goddamn American hero, ladies and gentlemen, you remember that. Uh, so what's he saying here? Can you translate? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Do you want to translate? I think we just invented an app for short attention span people, where we put the thing into it and then just, hey, Sam, did you know an astronaut back in 1950 and then like no no no don't look away don't look away like Sam was that like Sam this whole time is just a girl flashy right right here and am I wrong did that guy like oh that guy like oh the phone is well what's fascinating I don't I don't I don, I don't, sorry, go ahead. But what you're saying, it's like this thing that just passed in 2017, it's happened, it's happened since 47, you know? Yeah, the Roswell.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I don't, I don't, you know, I generally don't do eyewitnesses or character witnesses, but in this regard, I think when you have astronauts and there's so few people who have been to space that they really do hold weight. So when you look at the two people, Gordon Cooper and the other one is Edgar Mitchell, those are the two astronauts. Edgar Mitchell never saw anything personally, but he was really big into studying what's called the Noetic Sciences. What is that? And his noetic sciences are just like basically alternate sciences, point energy field and stuff like that. Because a lot of the way Edgar Mitchell was approaching it from is how do we, how are we
Starting point is 00:30:46 able to access these technology stuff like. What's zero point energy? Stuff like free energy and zero point gravity. It's basically the ability to move around free of the dimensions of gravity and of resource-based kind of fuel exhaustion. Have you heard the whole idea that the reason that disclosure is never going to happen is because the military industrial complex is reliable reliant on our technology that we've like reverse engineered from it right? So if we give people like you're talking about free energy, now why do we have war? Well yeah, why do we have oil? Yeah. They shut a lot of people say that's why they shut down what Tesla was doing. Because remember Tesla got funding to build what he was telling people was a big
Starting point is 00:31:31 radio tower, but in actuality it was a type of free energy research and and that that was never bought through fruition. His plans were scuttled kind of when things were brought about. But the other the other the the theory the theory the theory the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the. the the. the the. the the. the the. the the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. th. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. to. t. to. to. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. te. t. t. t. t.. But the other theory to speak about the military industrial complex is, once again, I wanted to stay on confirmed stuff where has data, so this is outside of that. But a lot of people think that after, that, you know, Eisenhower's legendary military industrial complex speech is about that exactly, you know, the fact that there are these energies, these kind of free energies that exist. Yeah, I want to get his granddaughter on the show. I'd love that. Oh, I said what is his granddaughter? Say I'm not familiar with it. She is big. She's all about talking about the the the the, disclosure, releasing it. Yeah, I'm kind of on the same path. too. the the thr. to, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the their, their, their, their, their, their, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr. the, thr. their, their, their, their, their their th. th. th. the. the. th. their, their, they, their, their their their about? Sure, I think Greer's taken a couple of hits and credibility the last five or six years like
Starting point is 00:32:26 Mitchell, Edgar Mitchell before he passed, I know distance himself kind of from because of all his Wu Wu stuff where he's trying to call down. I think Greer turned it more into a religion rather than than just kind of the fact-based evidence and I think this stuff is so fantastical we should limit it to where there's actual data because the data can be studied and once you can study data then it can open up avenues to possible answers so I think everything if you're really serious or I think there's something here and want to find out one way or another what the truth is you got to limit it to the data and there are few instances where the actual data exists. One would be this F.A. 18 incident, off of San Diego in 2004, which is really fucking interesting. What happened there? So
Starting point is 00:33:08 this footage that's been released is from 2004, right? That is the San Diego incident from 2004. This is released by the Department of Defense. It was put up on the New York Times website. It is a confirmed video from the US government of an F.A-18 Super Hornet chasing an object the way it went down off at San Diego in 2004 I think they were off the US S Princeton which is an aircraft carrier and the guys are just flying and they hear over the radio what are you guys carrying what he goes what do you mean what are we carrying he means well missiles are you carrying they say we have two
Starting point is 00:33:44 cat M M9s which are dummy missiles. So apparently over the last two weeks, they'd been spotting a lot of stuff on the radar, making maneuvers that were just absolutely insane and out of control. So he goes, we have two cat-9s dummy missiles, and they respond, radar, whatever well we've got a real world vector for you so they give them the data point so they go to meet them right at they appear at oh who's talking to them so these the radar control okay yeah talking to them so they tell them to go
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Starting point is 00:35:15 of a football field. And it, the craft was jumping around erratically, staying over the water disturbance, jumping around over to different heights and distances but never moving away. Wow! Yeah, the water boiling underneath it, okay, and skipping too, which is interesting. Some people have theories on that too. Sounds like interdimensional like a craft right? I know knows his shit, right? So he begins, this commander Fravers begins a circular descent towards the craft, and as he does that, the craft comes up halfway to meet him, and so he decides to go straight
Starting point is 00:35:51 toward it. And when he goes, Commander Fravers go straight toward it, he said the craft zoomed away at incredible speeds, and then he says something like, it was a weird feeling, or was an eerie feeling or it weirded me out. Yeah, and then what's even crazier after that they go, they go, they say meet at this cap point, which I guess is a rendezvous spot, right? And so they give him a cap spot 60 miles away. They go to that cap spot, right? And they're on their way there. And they have, uh, they get there. And the guy calls over the radio like five minutes after he gives them the cat spot.
Starting point is 00:36:35 He goes, he goes, five minutes after they give him the cap point. They give him the rendezvous. Over the fucking radio, five minutes later, the guy gets back on the radio to Commander Fravers. Sir, you won't believe it, but that thing is at your cat point. Can you believe it? That's unbelievable. At the cap point, 60 miles away, exactly. So the implications of that to me are almost more astounding than the ocean thing.
Starting point is 00:36:57 That means it was picking up the communications. They have an understanding of Englishing the English they headed off to see what it was there that they were doing. So they asked, so this also speaks to, so Commander Fravers gets back to the craft. He says everyone was giving him shit, what do you see? Even then at that point, at the point that everyone's giving him shit, making fun of him. And he asked him about it like what you think it was. He said I have no planes or wings or wings or wings or wings thap th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. this. this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So, thi. So, thi. th. th. thi. this is also also also this is also this is also this is also this is also this is also this is this is also this is this is a this said, I have no idea what it was. It had no planes or wings or flaps or exhaust and it just outran our F-18s. He's like, I don't know what it is, but I want to fly one. So do you think the water was boiling because it was, um, temperature change or something? Or just whatever, whatever was keeping it up was boiling the water? That's fucking pure speculation. I mean, yeah, that's what we do here. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:37:49 I mean, I mean, the whole podcast. Would you rather see? I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what the, that could be a reactionary thing to the craft itself or it could be a resource gathering thing. Who knows? Maybe they need a seawater wall between the out of their ship and the inner thing of their ship and it's some kind of gyro rotation or some shit. Who knows? You know what I mean? That kind of stuff is just is. Even what's in the ship I think is pure speculation. That's why I try to limit it to kind of like what is what is the data? What is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is that we is that we is that we that we that we that we that we can that we can that we can that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th is th is that that that that that that that. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that we can see on our side? And I think that should start significant scientific inquiry. I mean, here we have a pilot in our own government. Like if this doesn't, if this doesn't, you know, spark some kind of public commission, then I don't know what it well. So you're asking me, I'm saying there's, you have Kraft over Phoenix, you have
Starting point is 00:38:40 our own government with stuff on video. I mean, there's three right right right right We haven't even talked about Japan Air. You have You have Gordon Cooper. You have Edgar Mitchell So so I don't really know kind of like what it'll take short of you know just something popping out and saying what's gonna happen? What's gonna happen with the men in black if we do disclosure? They're out of work? What's gonna happen with the men in black? They're supposed they have to have disclosure the the the the to to the to the the the the to their disclosure. to their disclosure. their disclosure. to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thought about them? They got mouths to feed, they got families, they got 4-1Ks, they got worry about? I don't know, they suppose they have really small mouths. It's that very small mouths of feet. Like the land of the hungry ghosts.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah, there is. There is a, have you know, have you know the man in black video? Maybe I shouldn't know. But the way the guy, the way the guy dives out of the way, it comes back and the way he says in the story, it's a nice little simulation. They did a good job with it. Would you rather see a UFO or see Bigfoot? Oh, not even close. A UFO. See. You know what I mean? So, so like if I were to walk into casino and I would put it like, you know, whatever, bet the house on one, quote unquote conspiracy theory that I think would actually bear fruit or there's actually a chance of being out there and abundantly true, I think this is probably the number one, just because there is
Starting point is 00:39:59 so much existing data and instances and really credible people. Have you heard Jennifer, Jennifer, General Bird? General, I don't know if I'm familiar with General Bird. Operation, was it a high jump over down Antarctica. He's the one who flew over the poles. Oh, he's the hollow earth guy? Okay. Well, yeah, I don't know if I... Well, do you know that that story, he didn't put that story out. It was his kids when they went they went went went went they went they went they went they went th went th went th went th went th went th went th went th went th went th went th went th went th th th th th th th th 't put that story out it was his kids when they went through his diary. Oh really? Which is so interesting that a general would be diary. I guess we all kind of do a diary.
Starting point is 00:40:31 try and our Twitter is the new diary. Well I think old white guys called them memoirs. Right. Oh that's so funny. I wonder if you use a Hello Kitty. Probably. So like this program that we just started to talk about in the very topp. to to to tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod the tod the today. today. the today. today. today. today. to. to. to. to. too. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. the. the. tode. toda. toda. today. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. this program that we just started to talk about in the very top of the show, it was hidden deep within the $600 billion annual defense budget. Yeah. So how much was that? This program is super interesting in and stuff. Well, well, what was it? 24 billion dollars was like how much that's why?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Sometimes the stuff, what they put out isn't the actual whole story. It's just enough to the the the the the throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw to to to to to to to to to to to thi. thi. thoomoomoomo. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. out isn't the actual whole story. It's just enough to throw people off a scent or go deploy. The notion that they're building these like anti-gravitational flying machines within our government. You see people all the time do Google Earth and all this stuff. They're like, what the fuck is that? You know, they, the secret base they find they got this weird, like, uh, flying object, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, a, a, a, a theying, a theying, theying, theying, theying, theying, uh, uh, uh, uh, theying, theying, theying, the, the, to, is that? You know, they, the secret base, they find they got this weird like, flying object in the runway. Right. And you're like, your annual budget is $24 billion, that does not seem nearly enough to actually build any of this stuff. Like, that's why I think all this black op shit is or, you know, if you want to go into NASA,
Starting point is 00:41:45 what is NASA really? Probably building these weird-ass, these weird-ass flying objects. If you read this article, the New York Times article, it's just a good primer on the defense budget in general and how programs become what's called special access programs, which are protected and are black programs, and that which are which are then whatever the more public programs and you find out like for this program specifically Harry Reid was trying to get it to become a special access program to get that protection because they started in 2007 and they came across findings that they
Starting point is 00:42:21 thought were significant enough to continue this. You want me to go through it? Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're here for. All right. So give us the goods, dude. So basically this was done with Harry Reid and this billionaire named Robert Bigelow, who's the founder of Bigelow Airspace.
Starting point is 00:42:37 He has contracts with NASA right now. I don't know if you remember the expanding habitat that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. the, th. th. th. the, th. th. th. the, th. th. th. th. th. th. the, th. thi. thi, the, thi, the the thi, thi, thi, the thi, the thi, thi, the thi, th. th. th. th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, the thi. And, the thi. And, thi. And, to. And, th. And, thi. And, th. And, th. And, the th. And, th. And, the th try to do on the ISS. It's like you hook it up and it just expands which would be really promising for orbital craft especially like stuff like hotels. What are you talking about? What is that exactly? Bigelow Aerospace is an aerospace company founded by the billionaire Robert Bigelow. Okay. They have a lot of NASA contracts. His big aim is to have a hotel in space and to make easily, easily inflatable space structures that you just send them out there and they expand. Like a jump out, a jumpy house? Yes, for kids, a bounce house? Yes, exactly. So they had their, oh, snaps! Yeah, exactly. So they had their first, they had their first one last year that they actually sent to the ISS, connected to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. And to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their,, they had their first one last year that they actually sent to the ISS, connected to the ISS and try to expand it. It failed. It was, I think the experiment was a mix of success and failure.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Like they're promising going forward, but the actual mechanism didn't expand in the manner that they hoped that it would. But the reason, the reason why years stating that he believes extraterrestrials are real and they visited the earth. The other reason that's interesting, real quick that's interesting is so this program was basically run in coordination with Bigelow Aerospace. So it was a DOD program, one by Luis Elizando was the, he used to run it, but they would pretty much, from my understanding, outsource a lot of the findings to Bigelow who would do a lot of
Starting point is 00:44:09 the research on it to the point that Bigelow modified buildings for storage of metal alloys that recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena. They collected videos, including the one you saw there and another of F-A-18 Super Hornets surrounding by Glowah Aura traveling in high speeds and road trading and the pilots can be heard on the video saying there's a whole fleet of them out there. In 2009, so this guy, Eliza, quit recently writing an letter to Mattis, saying why aren't we spending more time here to kind of show you how people believe that this program may have borne fruit that is not public yet. In 2009, Harry Reid argued for the higher security of the program. Much progress has been made, he says, with identification of several highly sensitive, unconventional, aerospace-related findings. And finally, in 2009, in the Pentagon's own briefing summary,
Starting point is 00:45:04 they said, what was considered science fiction referring to this program is now science. Aerospace related findings and finally in 2009 in the Pentagon's own briefing summary. They said what was considered science fiction referring to this program is now science fact and that's the fucking Pentagon and Harry Reid to this day maintains that there are significant findings within this program. You know those space hotels is going to be some weird eyes wide shut sex parties going on. Such weird just meat and hole. How are you even going to Windex that shit? It's going to be so gross.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Go heads. Go heads. Isn't that crazy though Sammy Triples? Yeah, it is. I do think it's crazy, dude. Was that too long winded or was that? No, this is the good. We want than good good yeah we want the oh yeah I have another one you want a yeah that's what we're here for bring this to home Japan is that
Starting point is 00:45:46 the Japan one too but can I say something about the Fermi paradox before we continue I've been wanting someone to talk about that yeah okay so the family paradox basically says that we're probably alone in the universe and the reason it says that there's like a mathematical formula that says if life existed then we should have encountered it many times over again right what are your thoughts on the Fermi paradox now? Well you know I I talked about this extensively to myself in the mirror as I get ready to do this podcast I don't believe that and I don't I think that if there's advanced extraterrestrial life and they don't want us to know about it, they are advanced enough to hide it from us.
Starting point is 00:46:35 So we have proof here. You've brought me proof that hard data, like you say, that it exists. But these same objects have taken their have gone out of their way to do whatever they can do hide their their movements right so I don't I don't agree with that at all yeah I I I think you're correct and nobody actually states that publicly like if you try to read about the Fair the me paradox online and stuff pretty much fair me what an asshole that guy? Shut up, dude, if they were out there, we'd already seen them.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Okay, Fermi, whatever, you're such a fucking party pooper. Some fucking Italian with a protractor. Whatever, bro, bro, shut up. I told, enough of this. Huh? Yeah. So like, the two the the the the the the the enough of this. Huh? Go on. Yeah. So like the two main ones people say about the Fermi paradox are because there simply has been no life. There is no life, which is considered the rational one. Well, I mean, the rational belief.
Starting point is 00:47:33 But at the same time, isn't that isn't that there's no life that exists out there? Isn't that there's no life that there's the the the the that's no that's the that's that's that's that's that's no life is that's no life is no life is no life is that's that's that's that's no that's no life is no that's no that's no that's no that's view that life definitely exists out there? So I think that's kind of self-defeating. The other one that like Neil DeGras Tyson says is that the civilizations have probably just died out already, like his great saying is the university is probably riddled with the graves of one planet civilization. My problem with that whole thing is that it's the same thing with any conspiracy, right? Let's say 9-11 is an inside job, right? Right. They go, well, if it's an inside job,
Starting point is 00:48:08 why does anyone come forward? People have come forward. You just choose not to accept that information. You tend to call them crazy people, throw Timfoil hat on them, and ignore them. Here we have hard data of extraterrestrial life, encounters left and right, above the White House, this thing outside. Yeah, I mean like, but people choose not to accept it.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Because it doesn't fit into how they see the world. And I think that's why you know you won't see serious scientific inquiry into it. Because of the possibilities, it goes a lot into what Eckhart Tole says about ego and how people embrace faith and ego. It becomes part of who they are and a personality of who they are, so they feel like if you attack your religion or belief, or even a conspiracy theory somebody is really into. It's almost like you're attacking that person because they see themselves as that view.
Starting point is 00:49:02 You get what I'm saying? But I will th also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also also the thiiiii, I will thi, I will thi, I will thi, I will thi, I will thi, I will thi, I will thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi.. thi. thi. thi. thi. I the. I'm theean. I'm thean. I'm thean. I'm theanananan. I'm theanananoooeano. I'm thi. I'm that view. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, but I will also tell you that I think there's a big part of this and very powerful people have controlled this message and this information because it does a lot to destroy the religious beliefs out there. If this shit is real, if this is real, then that has to be undeniably true. You know, it's just like if there are space aliens from different places the notion that Jesus or Allah or whoever the star David's based on whoever that cat is Moses whatever that is is most likely not real. Based on our current understanding of those religions but hey the Mormons believe in different planets. Well that's a base of the Mormon religion. You're talking about the Hindus are into that stuff. The Buddhists have different planets. So so so so so so so so the the the the notion. So. So. So. So. So, so the notion. So, so, the notion. So, the notion. So, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's that, the notion, that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that notion, that notion, that notion, that notion, that notion, that notion, that notion, that notion, that notion, that notion, that that that that that the notion the notion the notion the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the the notion, the the the the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the notion, the Mormons believe in different planets. Well, that's a base of the Mormon religion. You're talking about the Hindus or into that stuff. The Buddhists have different planets.
Starting point is 00:49:48 So, you know, religion also isn't shackled to this kind of one life understanding. I think that's much more of a Judeo-Christian Western understanding. Well, there's, well, you know, well, I mean, you go back there's very famously books of the Bible that the Roman Catholic Church have like have hidden from people. Oh yeah sure. Speak very much of alien encounters. Yeah, yeah. Even within the Bible, the book of the book of Ezekielor, Enoch, the one where he talks about chariots and the wheel and the grinding and you know there was a NASA scientist
Starting point is 00:50:19 who was very skeptical about it and he said, I'm going to go gonna debunk this shit and he went and he built everything's to the damn dimensions of and he ended up making like a fucking spaceport is like what it ended up being you know so yeah we can get on Unaki stuff with the Moses is the arc what the excuse me knowing the arc is actually just a spacecraft carrying DNA all over the place right that was kind of what the discussion was that's kind of where the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tthe ttttttteau. tea. tea. tea. the the the tea. the the the the the the the what the discussion That's kind of where the known information stops at it stops at the border of that craft Churning those seas right there because what's beyond the veil is is is there a completely unknown and you hear some people talk about it I think the person with the most credibility I've heard talk about is Paul Helier who is the former Canadian defense minister he's the highest on record person to come out th and th th th th th th to th to th to th to to th th to th to th th th to to th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. tho the the the th. that that. the the the the the the tho- the the the the the the tho- the the the the the the th th th th the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thea thea the the the the the the the the the most credibility I've heard talk about is Paul Helier, who is the former Canadian defense minister. He's the highest on-record person to come out and talk about this.
Starting point is 00:51:09 He gets really into specifics about what are the different races and this and that. I'm not going to go to any of that. But I can just tell you, there are definitely cases. Asians are aliens. Asians. I mean, look at the Korean language. It looks like they have something from Star Trek. Yeah, and they actually have a great, their own UFO history lore that really ties into some of their great literature of the past as well. But actually the first recorded data incident of a UFO was a Japan air flight, incidentally, going from, I think it was Iceland to Anchorage, Alaska. It happened in the 80s, and it is known as the first first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first their their their their their their their thia thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, ththe 80s and it is known as the first incident.
Starting point is 00:51:47 80s when? The first incident it's Japan 1028. You can look up the exact date of it. But it's considered the first recorded UFO data on radar and stuff and the guy was flying. It's really eerie. If you haven't want to look it up, they have it on YouTube, the entire sequence of his actual voice calling into like the control tower and just like the confusion and the eerieness and him giving him the updates as this craft, these two craft appear in front of him and then they like appear to start distancing to the side. And they're coming from whatever side that is on Iceland. And he's like do you the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their, like, like, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. their, th. their their their their their tree.qqqq.c. s.sequent.sequent. their their their their their their their their the is on Iceland and he's like do you see them on radar do you see them on radar and they're like we don't see you on radar we don't see them on radar he's on radar we don't see them on radar and he starts this way and then they trail to the left and he goes oh I think they're gone so then in order to some lower altitude, 2000 below, and the craft starts following him in formation.
Starting point is 00:52:52 You know what I mean? And you hear him say, it's so eerie. You see him say in his own words. It's quite, no, he's in English, it's quite big, quite big. What is that? It tries to get away, but the object, the object stops information. He keeps trying to get away, but the object keeps following information. They don't get any radar, radar data of it. He's explaining to them. He says it's white and yellow. It's quite big.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Later they say he's as big as a football field. The eerie thing about this is, so it's not picked not picked at all until they get closer to Anchorage where the local Anchorage radar starts to pick up the object and they had a recorded thing. And you can hear the guys on the ground or freaking about it too. They're like, we'll call military. Do they have something they can send over there. So after this, the Japanese the Japanese the Japanese the Japanese the Japanese the Japanese the Japanese the Japanese the Japanese the Japanese the Japanese the Japanese. The Japanese. The Japanese. The Japanese. The Japanese the Japanese. The Japanese, the Japanese, the Japanese, they have they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're, they're, we're, we're, we're, we're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're, we're they're their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they have their. they have their, they have their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to their, to to to to to to to their, to to their. their, their. their. after this, the Japanese pilot, who I think was, he was shunned and he was grounded from his job. He was told not to talk about it. He was put on a desk job until he was reinstated years later. Afterwards, there was a meeting with the FBI, CIA, Reagan administration, where they
Starting point is 00:54:01 took official possession of the data. But it's all a recorded event, it's all out there, the flight tapes are out there, yeah, and it's considered the first recorded UFO radar event. So, so, if I told you, there was astronauts who were telling you who've seen the shit and said it's real, if I'm telling you, this shit flew information over Washington, D.C. and I'm telling you, flew over Phoenix, multiple people. If I'm telling you, there's multiple US government videos recorded from F-18s, where we have these things recorded, doing maneuvers beyond our capability and understanding how to do, then to me, that's something that needs to have a public commission and looked into seriously, and not this kind th, not th, not th, not th, not th, not th th th, not thi, not thi, not thi, not thi, not thi, not thi, not thi, not thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, tho, flew tho, flew tho, flew you, flew you, flew you thu-a, fl fln, flu-a, flu-a, flu-a, flu, flu, fluu, flu, flu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, and I thin, and, and, and I than, and I'm than, and I'm to than, and, and I'm to than, and I'm to to than, and I'm than, and I than, than, than, to do, then to me that's something that needs to have a public commission and looked into seriously and not this kind of not this
Starting point is 00:54:48 kind of attitude where it's dismissed because at the real heart of it, at the real heart of it, if you go through it in the original things, they'll say that they have craft from the government report I think from this that they have craft beyond our military capability that we don't have an understanding of how they do any of this and I think that's really what what the scary thing is there that they think people aren't going to be able to handle that and are going to freak out. So I put out a poll on Twitter just to see what everybody thought do you do believe in UFOs? Thoughts so far is 93% th 93. th 93% th 93% th We had a, I'm my friend Trevor Kevlov, who runs the dojo with me.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Right. He, we did a patron in which he, his father pulled him aside and goes, when I was very young, I saw something. I worked at this institute for technology, and I got called down to this floor I've never been to. And I went downthere and they were doing weird experiments on animals and I walked and I saw what could be described as a spacecraft with two green or gray objects things living things working all over it or you're running all over it with a tiny little things, living things, working all over it, or you're running all over it with a tiny little thing also running around.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Yeah. And then he got pulled, you know, the security pulled guns on him. Right. And for his life, wherever he showed up, once a year, these men in black would show up out of nowhere. Like he'd be going, he'd be traveling the world. He'd have a passport, they'd pull him in and these guys and these men for black would come in and be like, hey, yeah, have you told anybody? And the only reason this this guy's told Trevor, his son, is because he you know he's coming towards the end of his life. Sure. And yet was he's going to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have the their to have to have their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. He. He. He. He's the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the th. the the th point. Right. And he says he saw that. And this was like decades ago.
Starting point is 00:56:45 So what's it going to take like a we're going to have to have a touchdown on the White House lawn in order for us to believe? Well, I mean, I don't know. You know, you say that poll and I and the general poll I think it's like 56 or 57% of the actual population. So I just think it's going to be, it's going to have to be something like that. Were you cynical to the story just told you a little bit? Yeah, I was. Which is very interesting because you don't understand what you, it's very interesting because you're like, what's it going to take for people to believe in this? And what I just told you a story, which for the most part, I have have have have have have have have have have have th. have th. have th. I have th. I have th. th. th. th. Yeah, I have th. Yeah, I have th. Yeah, I have th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, th. th. Yeah, th. It, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. It is very very very very very very very very very th. It is very th. It's th. It's very th. It's very th. It's very thee. It's very the. It's very, that's very the. that's very interesting, the. the. the. the. the. th. dad's not that creative to come up with that story. But yet you so easily dismiss it, who seems to be the pro-UFO guy? I'll tell you why. There's so many stories out there, and there's so many anecdotes that they
Starting point is 00:57:38 all kind of serve as kind of like... Misinformation? But not even... Misinformation has intent to it, you know, and there is misinformation. But, but you know, when you're on a subject like this, I just think when you stick to like the hard data and the hard facts is when you can really start to change people's minds. Because I've sat down with people who have looked at me like,
Starting point is 00:58:01 I'm a complete fucking cook, and I will go through with them on their, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and the them on these particular cases like we did right now and they will walk away from saying okay I will accept the possibility of it occurring is a little bit more but I'm just very careful the information I bring into it why do you think I don't want to bring in stuff that's easily dismissed you can't dismiss Fnc.. You can't dismiss Fniz the Battle of Los Angeles which you know I they th don don don't th don't th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi the thi the thi the the the thi thi. I don't thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they. they. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. theeean. thean. thean. thean. thean. theate. thi. the. the. I thi. I dismiss Phoenix. You can't dismiss DC. You can't dismiss Gorn-Coop and you can't dismiss the Battle of Los Angeles, which, you know, I know you have. Have you gotten into that at all? I know you want. What is the Battle of Los Angeles, Ryan?
Starting point is 00:58:31 I've been holding on to that one for Gareth Reynolds. I've tol of thing that demand Inquiry where, you know, the band Foo Fighters that comes from UFOs that pilots were seen. You hear he hates that name. Who does he? Yeah, like he didn't think this band would be that big. He was just like a throwaway there. So he just threw out the name and that blew up. Yeah, I'm stuck with this name forever. Fucking bigger. It is a great name though.
Starting point is 00:59:11 It's a great name though. So, Ryan, you're not always talking to people like you are who may have a little bit open mind, usually you're talking to closed ears. Right. So if you give closed ears anything that gives them a reason to close the ears off, they will. Right. Well, so what I would say to you is if you're talking to you're talking, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, you, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th.. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, to deal with the zero. Maybe I'm a bit of a skeptic myself. No, well, it sounds like it's very interesting. You're the most open-minded skeptic I've ever seen. Like you're open-minded to your information and completely dismissal, dismissive of other things. Well, if he comes with facts and stuff, I think everything here is based around a fact or something. The other idea too is the schools of thought is that to to to to to the school. the school. the school. to the school. to the school. the school. the school. to the school. to the school. to to to the school. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the school. the school is, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the school, the school, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the. the the the the the the the the the the. the the the. the the thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. the Fermi paradox and travel such far distances in order to do that you wouldn't be an organic entity you'd be a non-biological entity so that's why when we see these grays they all look identical because they probably are
Starting point is 01:00:13 robotics they're like cyborgs you think that's what they're all hiding well that's why nobody's afraid to get a little fist because they have little Asian fists thin thus that's funny they's th they they they they th they th they they they th th they they they they they th they th they they they they they th th they they th thi they thi they thi they thi thi they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they're they're they're they're they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they have have have they have they have they have they have just like tiny fists. That's funny. There's an idea for that. Probings. You know what I learned from the Asian kids in college? They used to go to the strip clubs in basketball shorts and I never understood why until I asked them and then the answer was so obvious. I was like, yeah. I don't want to say the comic but a very good friend of mine said that this guy to show up all the time. thi thime thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the is they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they thi. thi. thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to ty to to to to to to to the. thi thi they they they they they they they they thi t in sweatpants. Yeah. But I always found like why would she get so offended by that? That's what you're there to do. Your job is to give the boners. Yeah I never had the balls to actually do. Well hey it's everybody's favorite time. Uh-oh what time is it? Aaron. Don't be an idiot. A-A-Ron. Well you better be sick, dead or mute. A, A-A-Ron. You don't mess up, A-A-Ron!
Starting point is 01:01:06 Get filthy animal. Aaron's thoughts? Well, I'm of the school that there's so many planets out there and so many galaxies. There has to be extraterrestrial life out there. That's what I'm saying. I don't know if they've ever made it here, I mean, because I haven't seen him. And I agree with Sean with in terms of like the unreliability of eyewitnesses, you know, that sort of thing. In most cases. What about the radar data? If, I mean, I got to see it. What about the
Starting point is 01:01:39 F-18 pilots in New York Times? I mean pilots are fucking psychopaths. But he has no no he has to record it. Someone's got to do a drop of every crazy thing Aaron's ever said and I want pilots are psychopaths. No they literally are if you take if you take their DSM test results they're the same as psychopaths. All right. You have to be a little bit nuts to fly a plane. The video Aaron the fucking video from the Navy show me the video. Aaron show the video. Can you find the Japanese one? Fuck it out. This tip all had a drop bread crumbs. I think him up. Before we end it. Do you find yourself being more open-minded to what we're doing? I feel like you're almost a year into this like have you opened your mind to our what we're doing? I mean I'm, I'm skeptical. I'm their their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. You're their their. You're their. You're their. You're their. You're their. You're their. You're the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Japanese. the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. You're their. You're their. You're their. You're their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. You're their. You're their. You're their. opened your mind to our what we're doing I mean I'm I'm skeptical of so many things though so I I don't know the video is I'm gonna send it to yes I'm always willing to listen but I've started reviews guys
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