Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #903: Skinwalkers, Occult Entities & A Psychedelic Journey to Jesus Christ w/ Chris Mathieu

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

Chris Mathieu is a passionate truth-seeker whose journey has been shaped by powerful synchronicities and profound contact with his higher self. His path took a sharp turn after harrowing sleep paralys...is experiences and a disturbing relationship with a reptilian-like ex-girlfriend that left him questioning the nature of reality. In his latest film, Chris dives deep into the mysterious threads connecting dreams, near-death experiences, altered states of consciousness, and non-human encounters — all tied together by the phenomenon of synchronicity, which seems to guide experiencers toward deeper truths. His investigations led him to Spacewolf Research, adjacent to the infamous Skinwalker Ranch, where he witnessed an array of unexplainable phenomena, including covert military operations, dark occult rituals, werewolf-like creatures, shapeshifters, and the spiritual warfare of Ute rituals battling dark forces. Through these extreme experiences, Chris came face to face with the divine, undergoing what he describes as an intense, life-changing NDE that led him to rediscover God and reconnect with Jesus Christ in a deeply personal way. Please subscribe to the new Tin Foil Hat youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@TinFoilHatYoutube Check out Sam Tripoli new crowd work special "Black Crack Robots" now for free. https://youtu.be/_FKugOeYaLc Check out Sam Tripoli’s 2nd New Crowd Work Special “Potty Mouth” on YouTube for free. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22j3Ds5ArjM Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/415fDfY Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Tuesday At 4pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now!  Go to samtripoli.gold and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show. LiveLongerFormula.com: Check out LiveLongerFormula.com/sam — Christian is a longevity author and functional health expert who helps you fix your gut, detox, boost testosterone, and sleep better so you can thrive, not just survive. Watch his free masterclass on the 7 Deadly Health Fads, and if it clicks, book a free Metabolic Function Assessment to get to the root of your health issues. CopyMyCrypto.com: The ‘Copy my Crypto’ membership site shows you the coins that the youtuber ‘James McMahon’ personally holds - and allows you to copy him. So if you’d like to join the 1300 members who copy James, then stop what you’re doing and head over to: CopyMyCrypto.com/TFH You’ll not only find proof of everything I’ve said - but my listeners get full access for just $1 Want to see Sam Tripoli live?  Get tickets at SamTripoli.com: San Diego:  Sam Tripoli and Tin Foil Hat Comedy Live July 17th-19th https://americancomedyco.com/collections/sam-tripoli-live-july-17-19   Boston, MA:  Tin Foil Hat Comedy Night Headlines Nick's Comedy Stop  August 1st https://www.nickscomedystop.com/event-details/special-event-tin-foil-hat-comedy-with-sam-tripoli-and-eddie-bravo-live   Broadbrook Ct: Tin Foil Hat Comedy and Swarm Tank at 8pm on August 2nd https://broadbrookoperahouse.thundertix.com/events/246069   Please check out Chris Mathieu's Internet: website:  https://forbiddenknowledge.news Podcast:  Forbidden Knowledge News- https://bit.ly/44yfQrT   Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedy Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/ Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/    Thank you to our sponsors:    MeUndies: MeUndies signature super-soft MicroModal fabric is breathable, stretchy, and oh-so-comfy, making it ideal for all-day wear. If you need something even more breathable and summer-proof, check out the MoveMe line with Breathe fabric, which has moisture wicking and anti-odor technology perfect for working out or just keeping you extra cool on those sweltering days. Right now as a listener of my show, you can score sizzling summer deals like up to 50% off at MeUndies dot com slash tinfoil and enter promo code tinfoil. That’s MeUndies dot com slash tinfoil, promo code tinfoil for up to 50% off! MeUndies—comfort that’s made for summer. Home Chef: Home Chef delivers fresh ingredients and chef-designed recipes, conveniently to your doorstep to simplify your cooking experience.  Users of leading meal kits have rated Home Chef #1 in quality, convenience, value, taste, AND recipe ease. For a limited time, Home Chef is offering my listeners FIFTY PERCENT OFF and free shipping for your first box PLUS free dessert for life! Go to Home Chef dot com slash TINFOIL.      

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tin foil hat. Yo, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tin Foil Hat. We go deep home, boys. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge!
Starting point is 00:00:27 There's lizard people everywhere! That's some interdimensional shit! Wake up, Aaron! This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind blown? Revolution will be podcasted. All right. Welcome to Tim Fall hat live from the wise Wolf, gold and silver studios.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Go to center, bleed, doc gold. Use a promo code Tim fall and you'll get in on the press. Smells game for as little as $50 a month sent right to your house, man. Very excited to have our next guest on. He's been a guest multiple times. He's got a new film out. He's got multiple films out. He's got a great podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Please welcome from Forbidden Knowledge News, Chris Matthews. How are you, buddy? Chris Matthews Hey, Sam. Thank you so much for having me back on. I am so ready to get weird today. Let's do it. Chris Matthews Yeah, you've grown your hair out. I have. Like it represents the vibe, man. Yeah, you got a coast to coast vibe. I'm liking it.
Starting point is 00:01:33 It's really nice. Explain your background real quick. What's going on behind you? A collection of high strange items that I've accumulated over the years and it's just on display right there and oh yeah Illuminati confirmed by the way the checkerboard That will happen. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's like getting ridiculous here the new thing on the internet about me I have a filler which one which Which one? Which one? Lip filler? I'm like, dude, please stop. I do not have DSLs at all.
Starting point is 00:02:08 That's not even a good look for a guy. Why would you do that as a man? Why would you do that as a woman? I think you'd rather be controlled opposition. Yeah, for sure. So nuts. The internet is out of control. You see I posted that video, that crowd work about SpaceX? Oh yeah with Elon.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Oh they went they still going nuts. They're still going nuts. It's weird I don't understand because you're right it seems like they're bots but I mean they must be using AI right because I got with the with the Asian thing is a bunch of people with no followers who were just calling me a white pig and stuff. Yeah. Who is that? You are a is that? Who are those people though that are coming into the thread? Who are these people? So do you think it's like another like a foreign adversary who's trying to stir up dissent in the country? Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. I think about that a lot like or it's giant corporations. Could be. You know, like if we get back to show but if you go into like if you're going after SpaceX and you have an employee saying
Starting point is 00:03:05 We didn't go to space. That's not good could be Twitter doing it then Elon, right? Well 100% I guarantee if you bring up Elon or bring up SpaceX you get pounded on it. We would have before our Bots expensive Johnny like a bot farm. I mean a bot farm I mean, you however much it costs to hire a bunch of Chinese I'm sure it was expensive before AI. Yeah. Now it's nothing. Yeah. I mean, like no one talks about that. All the bot farm employees, no one ever talks about that. But Chris, for those who were not familiar, are not familiar with your last couple appearances, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our
Starting point is 00:03:44 listeners can find you? Yeah, I am host and producer of Forbidden Knowledge News, founder of the Forbidden Knowledge Network, where we feature over a dozen other podcasts and content creators, some you might be very familiar with, like Raised by Giants, Day Zero, we feature Legit Bat, a few others, and I have made two films. First one is Occult Louisiana. That one is available on Tubi and multiple other streaming platforms. That one came out about two years ago, and just a couple of months ago, Doors of Perception was released on Amazon prime. That's where you can find that one right now. If you want to go check that out, we'd really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And it should be available on the other streaming platforms within a couple of months, and we are now making films, continuing with the podcast thing. Blessed to be able to do this on a daily basis and make a list. Tech is getting weird, bro. I'm telling you how the tech is getting weird. That's weird. Oh, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:04:53 It's everywhere now, dude. I'm telling you, this is the slow rollout. I'm telling you right now they're slow rolling out, controlling the internet. And you're just seeing glitches here and there. It's coming. So Chris, what I love about you is that you're in Louisiana, you're doing your thing. I'm in Colorado now, I was in Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:05:16 When did you move? I moved a few years ago. I just went back to Louisiana. I was born and raised there, lived there most of my life. Then I moved to Colorado in 2020. Went back to film the movie, but I live in Colorado now. Oh, that's nice. That's great. Why'd you get out of Louisiana? The whole, it was just not the right, it was not the right type of energy for me for what I was trying to do. There was very little creative outlets. And when I first started
Starting point is 00:05:45 waking up, it was almost impossible to try and get information across, especially I started waking up in 2012 and trying to talk to friends and family members about some of this stuff that I was getting into is almost impossible. I was almost kicked out of my family. I thought I was a crazy man. So that and I just always wanted to move out to the mountains. Something called me out here. It's beautiful out here and the energy in Louisiana is very dense and kind of low vibe at times. So I find the energy out here much more uplifting. Well, I love it, man. I wish I could move like you just all the time,
Starting point is 00:06:27 just constantly be moving. That'd be great. So we're living in crazy times right now. There's a spiritual battle going on. Everyone's got an opinion on it. And it gets kind of overwhelming at times to try to decide what is the truth. And the question is, is there a truth? Is there one truth? Is there multiple truths? Are there multiple realities
Starting point is 00:06:56 where there's multiple truths? What is your whole thoughts on that? Where we live and all that and you know, like what religions right? What, what, what? So it's, it's really a crazy time right now. We have more information than ever and I don't know if that's good because they can't control it. So they flooded it and that's what we're dealing with right now. Yeah. Well, this is what my journey has been about, trying to figure out all those questions that you were just throwing out there. And I will be honest, I have no answers. I have more questions the more I learn, the more questions I have. I have much deeper understandings than I did when I first started, and I have a much more powerful spiritual connection
Starting point is 00:07:46 to what you would call God. I have a connection to Christ again, which I didn't have before. I had several very powerful spiritual contact experiences. But my understanding so far is this is an experiential realm. We are here to learn and grow and experience and grow our consciousness. We are the experiential arms, or feelers, or eyes, or everything of what you would call God or source, and the information we process and learn here in this realm gets sent to that mainframe, which you would call God or whatever your term is that you use, and it continues to learn from our experiences here. And I think the good, the bad, the indifferent, everything in this realm is meant for us to learn and process from.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And there is an argument and a consideration for me if there has been some sort of parasitic infiltration into our consciousness, some sort of spiritual parasite that has tipped the scales in a sense, and that is why our realm is so inverted and backwards right now, and we are experiencing the things we have and have been for thousands and thousands of years. That is debatable, whether that parasitic influence is the cause of our human condition, or if it is just based on this, if that is the case. Like in The Matrix, they tried to make a paradise, but we weren't having it, so they had to add a little strife and conflict in there for us to enjoy ourselves. But I think it's more about learning from it, because if we only knew the good and the
Starting point is 00:09:45 positive and love and light, we wouldn't be good teachers for anything else, if that's the case. If we're supposed to learn and grow and then pass that information on, maybe it's some kind of cosmic school, and once we graduate, we get to teach other cosmic beings how to experience things. But again, I have no answers. I have some fun considerations. I get to talk to the most amazing people every day for my job and learn from them every day, and it's a blessing to be able to do so. But I will say that I am grateful to have been able to make that spiritual connection again through doing this, through conspiracies, through studying all these high strangeness and paranormal and everything I have been interested in. And yeah, that's where I'm at so far. It's super interesting Johnny, I was watching this video where this atheist was debating D'Souza who is drives me nuts now.
Starting point is 00:10:52 The next decision. Yeah, I liked him at first when he was doing all the cameras and then I listened to him debate Nick's Nick Fuentes who I would love to get on the show. If it's not, I didn't know that who Nick Fuentes. No, no, no, no. atheist? I didn't know that. Who? Nick Fuentes? No. No, no, no. Okay, I crossed the streams there. I watched Azusa debate another, in another debate with an atheist. Last night I watched him debate Nick Fuentes and I thought he just got his his lady dick kicked in.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Nick Fuentes is formidable in a debate. Here's the problem. It's like when you're like, and Nick Fuentes obviously is been shadow banned to the dark realm. So I don't know if I would call him mainstream at all, but he's still kind of in that world where what data are they going to use and what data they're not going to use.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And just the neocon talking points that D'Souza is using but D'Souza was the debating and this other debate Me and the reason I bring up the next flint stuff is because I just lost all respect for D'Souza after that It's like more zionist Just throw up them is just complete bullshit from a different time Yeah, and you know it's like and and nick Nick Flint has brought up all the, what he said about the Iraq War, which is exactly what he's saying about the Iran War. And he's like, we learned up.
Starting point is 00:12:11 It's like, shut up, dude. You know, but the atheist, you know, the atheist is debating D'Souza, and he brought up the thing in the Bible, where the Bible is talking about, you know, take slaves. And I just want to give you your flowers, Johnny, because I think you're totally right in that it would, listen, I understand that the Bible, as we're told, is the Word of God, right? But it is written by man. And I said this in a recovery meeting the other day, everything you hate about God is
Starting point is 00:12:42 probably the actions of man and not the actions of God. And so you're totally right on that. It was written in a time where everybody had a slave, you know? Even slaves had slaves, right? So, I found that very interesting. But again, going back into bringing it back to here, it's like, who knows what the rules are? I mean, you just like, you try to understand the rules and it just, it just seems to be like love is the rule. I think you have to feel your way through. That's what the Holy Spirit thing is, you know? It's like the, that's the thing that kind of guides you to the truth. And these things like sin, like if you go through all the sins and I go through it in life, obviously I don't murder and I, I don't steal, but we put all that other stuff aside
Starting point is 00:13:25 like I'm like, yeah, ruin my life, ruin my life, ruin my life, ruin my life, blood, knee, lust, ruin my life, ruin my life, ruin my life. Yeah, none of that shit's good for you on that list. Right? So at the end of the day, it's like you could have your problems with religion, but these rules are really rules about, you know, energy. Even the weird old dietary laws, if you think about them in a modern context, it's probably had something to do with germs and burying contaminated plates.
Starting point is 00:13:52 How do you explain that to people who don't know about microbes? So you tell them to bury contaminated plates. So I saw in one of your notes that you said a higher self and I think about that all the time. You know, anybody listening here in the room, listening in your pocket, I want you to think of your most embarrassing moment where you're like, oh, if your mom heard about that, she'd be so upset.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And I'm sure some of ours are worse than others, right? We're not talking murder, we're not talking any of that stuff. We're talking about just like your moment of deviousness, right, when you had this moment of weakness and you did some deviant shit. And then you kind of start to think like, did you have a higher self
Starting point is 00:14:39 that was controlling you at that moment? Like they were playing Grand Theft Auto and they just made you go do this weird ass shit, and you're like, oh dude, someone was controlling you at that point. Mine was so bad where I literally saw the devil and the angel, or the devil saw me keep going, and then the angel was like, no you shouldn't,
Starting point is 00:14:56 but I'm like, but this is what I wanna do. You saw that? No, I literally pictured like, in my head, it was like, don't do it. So you were on drugs. No, I was actually sober, but I was drunk drunk but I remember doing this thing where it was, I mean I'll say like it was drinking and driving, I knew I shouldn't have drove in, but it was to go get pussy. Okay. And my brain was go, and then my conscience like don't,
Starting point is 00:15:16 and then it was a moment my mom would be like dude for like embarrassing that you almost got a DUI risk of his life over ass. Yeah, but I had those two, but I either though to do it to don't do it. But I think about that, like at your most devious moment, your higher self is like, let's see how this goes. Right? Like when you're controlling grand theft, all you're like, let's run over the hooker. That sounds like possession almost. I mean, that's in a weird way. So what do you get into higher self? What are we talking about here? So for me, this is based on my experiences and my understanding. I have made what you would consider contact with what I understand as a higher self, or
Starting point is 00:15:59 you could say spirit guide, or your purest self, your purist connection to Source. Others call it different things, but I'll explain the first experience that got me in contact with this so you can have a better understanding. And the way I see it now is it's something that everyone has. If you wouldn't, you wouldn't be here. It is maybe what would be considered an over soul and it communicates with you your entire life. It's your conscious. It's exactly like you were saying that little voice that says no don't do that. That was a stupid move. Maybe you should have done something differently and I understand that that has
Starting point is 00:16:46 been speaking to me my entire life, but now I can immediately recognize that. And it's not as if it's something separate from yourself, although for me the communication comes through as it would be like psychic communication from a separate entity the Way it came through the way it first started was in 2020 I was doing forbidden knowledge news, but it was not my career at the time. I had no idea how to Turn that into a career. It was just a fun hobby at the time. I was working at a corporate sales job that I really did not like. It was a rough period in my life and I was going through a breakup, all kinds of nonsense that I was going through. But deep down, I really wanted to turn this show into something to to be able to make it into a career and
Starting point is 00:17:48 Do something that I was passionate about creatively and I had all these doubts and all those programming That's you know, you get growing up that you know, you can't do certain You can only do certain jobs. You try and do something creative you might fail all these things that many of us are programmed to believe. And at this time in 20, it was 2020 and we were just hearing about the COVID operation starting to kick off. We had really no idea what was happening. It was kind of chaotic and there was a lot of fear
Starting point is 00:18:26 going around. And I was in a bad place. I came home from my job. At the time, I was starting to do more spiritual shows. I started out looking at UFOs a lot, a lot of paranormal and mainstream conspiracy stuff. I wasn't really getting into the deeper spiritual consciousness connections and how everything fits together yet. And this one evening I came home from work and I was also getting into talking about meditation on my show and trying it very unsuccessfully most of the time. This one evening though, I get home from my job and I decide I'm going to meditate. I'm going to take the advice of a few people that I've been speaking with, maybe use some 432 Hertz tones, see what'll happen there. Before I can go inside
Starting point is 00:19:16 to do that though, I don't know if this is connected, it's just an interesting synchronicity that occurred. I look up and I see this this what I can only describe as UFO. It's three bright orange flames in the sky that were slowly moving up and then kind of blipped out of existence disappeared But it was something that I had never seen before but I just kind of marked it as interesting still don't know Louisiana this was in Louisiana at the time. Where did you live in Louisiana? Like what was, how would you describe the city or town you lived in? It was about 45 minutes south of New Orleans, but in a very rural, swampy type area.
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Starting point is 00:24:51 And the way it went down was I was in a very peaceful state, very still. I cut out as much thought and chatter as I could, and in my subconscious vision it was just blackness, it was just blackness. It was just darkness, but it was very peaceful and relaxing. And next thing I know, in my subconscious vision, I can see this blue light manifesting. And as the blue light manifests, I feel love like I have never felt before. It was like some kind of love drug and I thought I knew what love felt like. This was something that was so undeniable. It was like a fraction of what you feel, the love of your mother or father or spouse. It was that times a thousand
Starting point is 00:25:40 and this blue light was getting brighter and brighter, and I just was overcome with this this love feeling, and then something spoke telepathically to me. It was very kind and benevolent sounding. It said, hello, and would you like to speak? And I freaked out. I grew up Catholic, had a lot of residual dogma at the time. I said, I said, in the name of Jesus Christ, are you a demon? And I sensed that whatever this was, was kind of laughing, but in a loving way. And at the same time, before I could even finish asking that question, it said, no, I am of Christ, I am benevolent, things of that nature. And I was just immediately put at ease. And this communication was that it was just a blue light that I could all I could perceive was this blue light in
Starting point is 00:26:33 my subconscious vision. But the communication was undeniable. Well, I wasn't talking to myself. This was something else that I'd never experienced before. And it asked if it could have a conversation, if we could have a conversation and the communication was instantaneous. It was the probably the easiest way that I've ever communicated with anything before I could even finish a thought. It had an answer that was processing through my mind and it wasn't
Starting point is 00:27:01 like it was regular speech. It was a combination of emotions and images and just knowing, knowing whatever this was was speaking and it was extremely profound and it asked if I'd like to have a conversation because it said it had been with me my whole life and it's time for me to get to know it and it has some information if I would be willing to receive it because it would be beneficial on my journey. So I was like, yeah, you know, I was calmed down at that point, didn't think it was a demon anymore. And I realized that I had actually popped out of my meditative state and was standing up and was still communicating with this being.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I was no longer actively meditating, but yet still communicating with something. I asked if it had a name. It said, just call me whatever you want. The names doesn't really matter. So I immediately, I called it Laird. It just popped into my head. It's the name of one of my cousins I had growing up. I thought it was a cool name. Laird. It just popped into my head. It's the name of one of my cousins I had growing up I thought it was a cool name. Laird. Laird. You had a cousin named Laird? What's that? You had a cousin named Laird? I did, yes. Have you ever heard that name before? Yeah, Laird Hamilton, the famous surfer.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Have you heard that? I've never heard of it. It was a unique name, so it just kind of popped up. All right, Laird. I've never heard of it. It was a unique name. So it just kind of popped up. All right Laird Laird Yeah, so I'm speaking little air this blue light. Was it cool was like, okay, I'll go with Laird and that's Okay Laird fine, I mean whatever he's gonna go back to the other higher beams like dude the guy named me Laird He was cool with it, Pete Slauson Okay. Jared Larson So, we can, we continue to have our conversation and it said that I was about to experience profound changes, not only in my life, but there would be very profound changes on the planet and I needed to prepare myself mentally, physically, and spiritually. And some of the main points it started to just throw at me was,
Starting point is 00:29:07 you need to heal childhood trauma. You've got some residual muck and emotions, and you're getting into shitty relationships, toxic relationships, crazy women, all this bad stuff. And it was, you know, relaying all these things that I was basically fucking up in my life. I was just dumbfounded. It was things I didn't want to hear at all, never thought I'd be hearing it from this
Starting point is 00:29:33 random voice that popped in my head. And then it said, you need to quit your job and do what you're really passionate about. Do this show. And that was the thing that terrified me most, more than healing childhood drama or any of that stuff because I had no idea how I was going to do that. And it was pretty incredible. This voice continued to communicate for a couple of hours, telling me things that I can do to get better at what I was doing, to have a stronger spiritual connection, things that I should start looking to, people that I'm close with that I should
Starting point is 00:30:13 maybe have more conversations with. It was a very, such a profound experience, but I still, in that moment, didn't know what was happening, didn't know if I was having an acid flashback or just going crazy or something. And eventually, after a couple hours, the communication just wasn't there. I wasn't able to perceive it anymore. It was like slowly fading and I couldn't understand it and then it was just gone. And I didn't know what to do with that. So I had to recreate, I had to do it again, because if I wouldn't have, I would have just thought it was just a moment of insanity. And I tried for
Starting point is 00:30:51 days and days until one day I did, and I actually did this in the bathtub because I don't know why something intuitively told me to do it in water. And it was such a powerful experience. I was able to achieve that meditative state extremely fast. The intelligence came through, layered, appeared very quickly, and started showing me a vision of a very traumatic childhood experience that I had completely forgot about and just brought it to me. It was a very- No, now you say you forgot about it, but when you saw it, you remembered it? I remembered it. It was something I had blocked out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Okay. Yeah. And it was a very emotional moment. After that, I start to ask, what are you? Who are you? What is going on? And- What was the trauma? What are you who are you what is going on and? What was the trauma? Well, it was a very it was just a very Negative experience that I had at a childhood family friend's house
Starting point is 00:31:56 Abusive experience. Yeah You know a family I got molested by Larry Watts Yeah, well it was it was something along those lines actually so it was it was a pretty traumatic Yeah, so we go through that and then After I kind of relive that experience. I asked who are you? What are you and the next bits are We're kind of blurry and I don't remember everything that was said. I'll tell you what I do remember. It said, we reach out to those that are seeking Christ consciousness that are ready to receive it. I said, that's wonderful, all right. And then I started getting a vision
Starting point is 00:32:49 started getting a vision of these beings that were they looked in my vision like animal-human hybrids in robes but they were kind of cartoonish looking and I will tell you my understanding of why they appeared this way but they were all beaming this incredible love. They asked if I was ready to fulfill my requested mission in this incarnation or something along those lines. It was such a beautiful experience and they were basically asking me if I was ready to pull up my big boy pants and do what I'm supposed to do here on this planet. And they again started giving me more information on how to proceed. The most profound experience I've ever had in my life, it was a confirmation that there was something happening here.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And one of the oddest things that they suggested was if I wanted to speed along the process of healing my childhood trauma and rewire those negative connections in my brain, psilocybin is the way to go. Now, the last time I did mushrooms was like a teenager and the experiences were terrifying. That was the last thing that I would ever think of. But I was like, okay, psilocybin, whatever. And they were like, quit your job. Quit your job. This is an interesting being, dude. I mean, it's super. Well, you know, I understand. It's just me. It was me. Like, it's like future me reaching
Starting point is 00:34:21 out. What if you got the druggie guy, the druggie guardian angel, like the deadbeat guardian angel? It doesn't surprise me looking at my background, man. What if you got the guy that runs everything's kid, and he just got the job? He'd be homeless if it wasn't for his dad. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:34:38 He just wanted to get high again. Yeah, so it's interesting, because I've told this story before on the show, but one of the big moments in my life is at the beginning of this show You know in the early year I'd say Ryan off the grid Ryan which and people ask me where he is I haven't heard from him forever It's this has gone longer than last night. He really is off the grid You thought he was joking when he first called himself that or who? Did you give him that nickname too? Probably, probably. Sam I would have met. Yeah that's what I do. Sam brings the nicknames. That's what I do. I'm nickname
Starting point is 00:35:10 trippler. Well you nailed this one. I mean you just gave yourself a nickname. So you know the show was taken off and we got to start getting new fans. This guy that made Joey Diaz mushroom chocolates sent us a bunch of mushroom chocolates. And I decided to take them and go to the K-Rock Weenie Roast, no, Acoustic Christmas. And I took one and then I ate a half another one because I'm an alcoholic and I can't have enough. And so I took the second one
Starting point is 00:35:42 and then I just remember hearing this voice clear as day go Don't worry about everything anything. You're exactly where you need to be and I've never and it just hit me like a ton of bricks I stopped right there. I was like, holy shit. I needed to hear that and I've never worried about my career since them Where are these shrooms at? I mean, dude, this was like seven, eight years ago. They sound like life changing. Well, they did.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Because, you know, the big thing, you know, you see this in like, especially people in Hollywood where it's like, you know, Tony Hinchcliffe, I talk about it, he used to have day shift stripper eyes where he's just like, man, how's this gonna end, dude? How's this gonna, and then you kind of get to end, dude? How's this going to end? And then you kind of get to this place and now you're calm, you're chill, everything's good and you just see this weight come out of your eyes.
Starting point is 00:36:32 So it did, it did change my life and it's allowed me to accept my path compared to when I compare myself to the people I were around, people I put on the path, you know? So yeah, I get this dude. I get all that Yeah, and I I owe everything To actually taking that advice quitting my job moving to Colorado where Synchronistically mushrooms were legal
Starting point is 00:36:58 Legal to grow legal to use on your own and that's what I started doing I had I had myself a little mushroom farm and you grow mushrooms. I do. I am on a hiatus temporarily, too busy with all kinds of other stuff, but I have been growing mushrooms for a few years. Yes. But that's what I did. And man, the experiences were wild. I'll just say that you know, it's interesting because Uh, and this is a really deep conversation that I think goes into like What I see society and culture pushing on people You know is like this this desire and drive to go against your own
Starting point is 00:37:43 Will to go against your own your own to go against your own body, what am I saying, your wiring, your natural drive, right? People are being pushed to kind of go into this direction that isn't, I believe they're calling, and that is where anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts, all that stuff comes into it. And again, it's like I say all the time, it's simple versus easy. And going off on this path where you feel like, you know, it's like when we see the blue-haired feminists, do they ever look happy? Ever!
Starting point is 00:38:21 No. Like you always want to see, like, if you want to take life advice from somebody Look at them and tell me are they happy such a good point Do they have a positive energy vibe or are they walking around in a state of permanent offense? Yeah, are they always miserable and that is how they that's how they feel something is by getting offended And the answer is most of these people aren't. They're angry at life. And again, listen, I had friends of mine
Starting point is 00:38:52 who were on medication, schizophrenia. We can get into maybe schizophrenia is something totally different that we don't, we're just society has decided not to try to understand it. We have two people on the show right now talking about hearing voices and now now we take the people hear voices And we throw them away Yeah, but you know you have this voice inside you telling you to do something and you'd go against it and That's where the misery comes from. I really do believe that is going against your your natural calling
Starting point is 00:39:27 100% I was so depressed that the time period before I Quit my job was awful to an extent where I would wake up and not want to Stay awake. I just want to stay awake. I just want to go back to sleep. I absolutely loathed every moment of the day, loathed what I was doing because it was a toxic job
Starting point is 00:39:54 where I was trying to sell a grandma phone she couldn't even afford and all these, you know, things that you do at a sales job. But after that experience, when I made contact with this higher self, the days at work got so awful. It was like things started to happen. Either I started to become aware of things that were so much worse that I didn't even realize before, or the universe started throwing more things at me that would make it extremely difficult to stay working at that job at that time.
Starting point is 00:40:30 We got a new manager that was a complete dick, all these new policies, then COVID hits and we have to wear a mask at work every day. And then that was probably one of my final straws, where I was like, no, I took out my 401k and just jetted out to Colorado on a wing and a prayer. And it was pretty incredible how everything progressed. I was terrified. The podcast wasn't making any money when we got out there, but within about six months, I was busting ass doing six seven shows a week trying to get sponsors and Promote everything and working my ass off and then within about six months. I check your revenue and it's like, holy shit I can pay rent this month and then a couple of months
Starting point is 00:41:17 I'll buy I can pay rent and eat this month and it just kept getting better So it was you know, build it and they will come. Yes, sir. And you know, it's like, I say this all the time, but it's like, when you trade in a nine to five, you end up getting a 24 seven, but there's something freeing about being your own boss. There's a lot of different pressure and it's all the time, but it just becomes part of who you are. So it's like when you're, they say this thing, when you take a job somewhere with a company, a corporation, they're basically paying you
Starting point is 00:41:56 to give up your dreams. Here's the money to give up your dreams. Now this is not negative to anybody who has a great job out there. They're happy at their work. I'm very you know If you are happy do your thing, but if you have this calling coming You might want to look into it And it's just like I would rather fail than never try
Starting point is 00:42:19 It's much easier to say hey, I tried if, I sucked at it. That's a freeing thing, you know? I, 100%, but I also gotta play like devil's advocate because sometimes I see my friends, and we'll go on vacation, and they just get the check. They don't gotta create a content, they don't come out with a t-shirt, because you know how it is here, we gotta book someone, we gotta make merch, we gotta sell tickets.
Starting point is 00:42:44 They just go to work, and the check lands, and they don't care as long as they show up and they don't harass no one or get called by HR. No, no, no, I get it. And I'm a little sometimes like, that's not as bad as it sounds because then they look at me and they're like, yours sounds fun when you're 21 but as a third year old. Oh yeah, because you're going to raves and doing drugs with 22 year old chicks No tends to be a 20 year old thing But as you grow listen, i'm not i'm not saying you're not wrong
Starting point is 00:43:14 There is something about Conforming to that and I know in that word tends to have negative connotations, but I don't think there's anything wrong with that um Again, my biggest issue with working for somebody else is they can decide like this, you no longer work there. That is it, and you see that happening a lot with older employees. They build the company up, and then the company thinks, oh, we can save a couple bucks here,
Starting point is 00:43:39 we're gonna go in a different direction. And again, teachers, working in offices, I love everybody. If you're happy, you do it, it's just, I learned this when Tommy the old booker at the comedy store. That guy put his heart and soul into the comedy store for 13 years. Yeah, they come doing some shady shit, and that was the excuse to fire him,
Starting point is 00:44:02 but when they fired him, his entire life work was gone. And I always learned that. I go, oh man, I'm never gonna put all my eggs into somebody else's basket. And I'm not saying that, some people are just built different. Like my best friend from high school has been graphic designer at this college
Starting point is 00:44:23 for like, gotta be going on 30 years. God bless him. You know, God bless him. I think some people just built for that kind of like 100%. There are that and it's just like who are you and what are you and what are you miserable? Yeah, because I mean when I worked that kind of schedule I was just miserable for years. Hey guys, real quick I want to tell you about one of our favorite sponsors, and that is Home Chef. Listen, it's summertime, but instead of relaxing, you're stuck in a meal planning rut,
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Starting point is 00:46:30 I would not have guessed that. Yeah, I would have said 10, 11 guys. No. Okay. Go to the gym. But now we're at a gym, you got a job, you're getting up at 5.36. You know. Johnny lives that lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I know Johnny. Well, Johnny goes to bed at 5.30. Yeah. But going back to his like, you know, I'm going lifestyle. I know Johnny goes to bed at 5 30. Yeah But going back to his like, you know, I'm gonna be honest with you You know, you're you you have a different vibe this time When you're on the show You have a very different vibe and it's shown that you've kind of broken through on some stuff Oh, definitely man. I have done some
Starting point is 00:47:05 very rigorous spiritual work, very rigorous, just work into the show, trying to, like, the movie, for example, this was an experiment for me. This was for me to push myself to see if I could do this, to see if I could get a film on a streaming platform. And yes, it was the things that I was interested in. It was my passion went into it, but the expectation of what would happen was pretty much up in the air. And I just wanted to push myself to see if I would be able to do it Was the name of this movie? The first film was a cult Louisiana the forbidden documentary a cult Louisiana I came on a couple of I think it's maybe a year and a half ago on this show to talk about that one and
Starting point is 00:48:01 Yeah, and I I was able to break through, like you said, doing lots of meditation, lots of introspective work, and utilizing the psilocybin and psychedelics, not for a party sense, not to have fun in any way, in a very meditative, structured, spiritual, ceremonial sense, and they, it was, most of those experiences were not fun at all. They were very tough work. I had to quote unquote face my demons and go into a lot of things that I never thought I would be reliving or looking into and do a lot of healing through a lot of that process. But the beautiful thing about that was I didn't realize after I got through the tough work of healing and getting through the muck and trauma, the experiences after that were just like Mr. Toad's wild ride. I would get to learn all this incredible stuff, meet with these celestial
Starting point is 00:49:07 entities, have these strange out of body and time travel experiences, and there is one of the most profound experiences I ever had I'd like to share with you guys, because I think you and the audience would appreciate it and it involves an Ex-girlfriend that shapeshifts into a reptilian what okay? I'm listening. Yes, please Alright, so this was about two and a half years ago Chik no no, okay I'm in Colorado at this time and I was already, I'd already able to convert the business into something that I was doing full time.
Starting point is 00:49:52 It was a podcast and I had not started my first film yet. And I'm married now, happily married with a wonderful, beautiful woman. Shout out to my wife, Jennifer. But a couple of years ago, I was with this other chick that we were together through a mutually kind of beneficial relationship, and we were living together, which was a huge mistake, but, you know, she was hot, yada, yada, yada. So, we're together and I am actually rigorously having these psilocybin experiences, trying to do these healing journeys and things of that nature. She is a quote-unquote psychic medium healer
Starting point is 00:50:33 type person, but she's never done psychedelics of any kind and she's expressed interest. She would like to try this. So, I said,, we're going to have an experience together. So I doser, not too much, just a couple of grams. Liquid acid or? No, only psilocybin, only natural, baby, no acid. So we, the mushrooms, magic mushrooms. So I doser a couple of grams of mushrooms and I, you know, I take my usual, I think I'm taking like three or four grams at this time for every session. And I'm doing this about once a month.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I'm not frying my brain every day with this stuff. So we go in and where I am having an experience, I'm feeling the psilocybin, but she's not, it's like an hour and a half in and she says she doesn't feel anything. And this is red flag number one. I'm like, Oh, what's going on here so no that that she to two hours three hours ago she doesn't Alex and you say I don't feel anything and then somebody gives you more drugs this is what exactly what happened I gave her about five grams total and nothing like even two or three
Starting point is 00:51:44 hours and she's like, no I'm kind of sleepy I don't feel it and I am off my rocker. What's funny is sometimes you do get sleepy you get the yawns but it's because it's about to kick in. Yeah but she's no not at all. I mean you hear about gurus like Neem Kareli Baba I think was handed a bunch of acid by Ram Dass and he pretended that he was losing his mind temper and then he just kind of pulled it and laughed at it. I mean, it's like, I live like this all the time.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I wonder if this is maybe similar to- Well, you should hear the rest of the story before you come to any conclusions here. All right, I'm in. All right, so I am off my rocker. She is, she suggests, oh well hey, why don't we do a little regression therapy for you while you're in this state and I'm like, you stupid, yeah sure, why not? So she proceeds to do this kind of regression therapy trying to locate childhood trauma and that experience was fine. It seemed like it was cool to me, and it was after this that things took a turn. We're having a conversation.
Starting point is 00:52:53 We've got this, you know, weird classical music playing in the background, and she's talking to me, and all of a sudden she's saying something that just doesn't click right with me. And this is what I hear her say. She says, you know, I found you. I helped you get where you are. I thought we were in love, but I'm getting the sense that you don't need me anymore. You're going to leave me and you don't love me anymore. And as, as she said that, I shit you not. What I saw is her shape shift into a reptilian with yellow eyes, big yellow teeth. She even grew a couple of feet taller. What?
Starting point is 00:53:31 She was like six foot tall. She was in my ex-girlfriend's like 90. And it's a reptilian being and it's like, you don't love me anymore. Dude, I ran, like I took off. I'm running to my basement and I hear these footsteps behind me and this being like, you don't love me anymore. I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 00:53:52 I run downstairs to my basement and I'm like, all right, so this is the first time someone has overdosed on mushrooms. I'm in hell and that's the only information I don't know. I've never had such a vivid, hallucin- And this is why we have locks on gun sakes, by the way. This is exactly why you have a lock on a gun safe. Yes. So dude, all right.
Starting point is 00:54:14 So then next, my entire house turns into like a dungeon. I look outside and the sky is like blood red. I've got these dingy bars that appeared on my windows. I'm completely freaking out. I run back upstairs and I'm trying to like look around the corner, see if there's a reptilian that I can avoid. And I run into my room and I don't know what to do. I jump in the shower and just turn on water and I'm like, oh God, what is happening? So, I just said, I'm going to pray. I started praying and before I could even finish, oh God, I felt this rumbling like in my chest and stomach and this voice, loud commanding voice says, you are being deceived. And I
Starting point is 00:54:59 puked up this black, oily goo stuff down into, down into the drain. And it felt like the room shook and everything snapped back to normal. It was like no more dungeon. I felt okay. I didn't even feel scared anymore. I felt like there was something like protecting me or something. And I walk out and my ex-girlfriend is there again, not a reptilian, and she's like, what the hell just happened? What is going on? Now it's like, I'm going to go to bed, I'll tell you later. I grabbed a bottle of wine and just started downing it. I was like, I don't know, but this is, this is, tie everything together. The following days and weeks I started noticing a persona
Starting point is 00:55:46 about her that she was not either not displaying before or again I did not see before. Very manipulative, cold, dark, maybe you could say reptilian like personality that started to show itself and she was just plain evil after that experience and my understanding of this is My mushroom showed me something about who she really is or maybe she's a reptilian. I don't know I doubt that but my perception is maybe it was psychically showing me that this person is has some nastiness inside her and maybe that's what kind of came out of that experience because bro after that
Starting point is 00:56:31 she was a completely different person and I would compare her personality to reptilian that's crazy I think your shoes were laced with methamphetamines. No, man. I grew them myself. I only put methamphetamine on the other month's dose. So it's interesting. So the next day, what did she say? Why did you think I was a reptilian? She did and I just kind of avoided everything. I was like, I was tripping. I was going crazy. It's all right. It's all right. And it took a while for me to just understand the progression of things and how she started to display that behavior. But I mean, within a day or two, I was like, oh, there's something going on here. And then eventually I had to kick her out and broke up with her.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Reptilian. Out of here. That's it. Reptile clothes and go. You got to watch out for those reptile girls It reminds me of like every time I used to watch stack to when she when she shaped Tillion tits. Yeah. Yeah. Well reminds me every time I would watch like the Incredible Hulk and he would expand but his pants stayed on Yes
Starting point is 00:57:41 This giant lizard but somehow the 90s Somehow they still conform to what censorship required of the times. We can't see Green Dong on the shelf. Luke Frigno's giant hammer. What if everything got bigger by his wiener just saying the same thing? Oh, so he's like, Shaq? Yeah, that would be terrible. That would be hilarious.
Starting point is 00:58:01 That would suck. Yeah, that would suck. So you seem like you have some experiences You know word on the trees you had a sleep paralysis Yeah, yeah, so this was a long time ago up Johnny I was about to write if I sleep during the day I get it. I don't get any weird Entities or anything but just kind of trapped in lock feel locked in, you know for the okay. So let's let's hear about you Yeah, this was in. Oh man, I was like 25 and this was during my first marriage and it was
Starting point is 00:58:33 right around... How many man times have you been married? This is my second time, so... Congratulations. Thank you, sir. We're going to try and keep it at number two there. Yeah, that would be much better. Jared Yeah. So, first wife, right before we decide to get a divorce, things are really not bad, really bad in my life. And I can't sleep at night, so I try to nap during the day, like on my lunch break or, you know, my days off from work. And every time I would get into this state
Starting point is 00:59:06 where I'd be falling asleep and almost there, everything start feels like tingly, like it's vibrating and I'm feel stuck. And I can still perceive slightly out of my vision. I can still kind of see my eyes are slightly closed, but I can't move. And all of a sudden I start feeling presences. I feel these shadow, like a sea, I can perceive out the corner of my eye these shadow people
Starting point is 00:59:33 that either peek inside my door or they're walking around and it's not just one or two, it's like a shadow people party in the next room, and they, each time it's like they get a little bit closer and a little bit closer and there'll be one entity that enters the room walking towards my bed and then the next time there'll be two of them walking towards my bed. And this went on for months until actually after I started to feel better after the divorce was over, after I got a lot of the stress out of my life, it stopped. But the last few experiences were crazy because they really ramped up. Bunch of shadow people just kind of barging in surrounding me very menacingly and the
Starting point is 01:00:19 feeling is like these things are not good. They're not pleasant. And then I start hearing this extremely loud banging noise coming from my ceiling above my ceiling fan. And it'd get louder unless sounds like someone was trying to break through my ceiling. And the last time that happened, it just, I really expected a shadow person to fall out of my ceiling and fall on top of me, but it didn't. And I busted through, and that was the last time that it happened.
Starting point is 01:00:51 That's the last experience I remember. But I don't know. I don't know if it's correlated to stress or whatever, but that's, I was definitely in a bad state. What did you feel? How did it feel? It felt like a kind of tingly sensation at first, like your whole body is kind of tingling and then you notice that you can't move.
Starting point is 01:01:11 And you're trying to move? Trying to move, definitely trying to move everything. You're still conscious and, but it's almost like, I don't know if you've ever been in, been aware of the state when you write about to fall asleep and you kind of like jerk awake That feeling right before you jerk awake is like what I felt but in a paralyzed state Have you Sam so you've never had sleep paralysis ever no, but I mean I my big problem lately is that I can't fall asleep Yeah, like sometimes I go right to bed and then I'll just lay in this kind of like in between sleep and being awake. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:50 We're like times flying, but I'm still like, I'm bad rest though. You're not, you're not refreshed. Yeah. Sleep paralysis. See for me, if I, if I sleep during the day often, or with lights on in the room, cause that's how they stimulate it in a laboratory setting they put, or lucid dreaming, they do the same thing. They put these masks on your eyes and kind of flashlights and it can stimulate sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming when they study
Starting point is 01:02:13 it. But for me, it's always been and at first I thought, so I would just feel trapped in my body and I can kind of open my eyes a bit, you know, just enough and they're like twitching, you know, because I'm fighting to keep them open. And I can see around the room a bit, just a bit. But what I realized after years of this, happening maybe a few times a year, is that what I see in the room is not actually in the room, it's not the room.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Like sometimes I'll- You're making it up? I think it's almost like a dream state. Because sometimes it will be the wrong room It'll like I'm at home and Encino, but I'm seeing the room back in North Carolina or something like that and so I I I think probably you're in this kind of liminal state between when it's not involving entities like I have you're in this liminal state between dream and
Starting point is 01:03:03 sleep and And you're just about to wake up, But yeah I'm fighting, my arms are twitching, it's it's rough. Knees weak, arms are heavy, mom's spaghetti. It's not fun dude. I am with you. Because you're trying to like, if I'm in bed with Danielle, it'll like, she can hear me trying to like, help. like that. And she'll shake me away. I get twitchy when I sleep. The only time it happens to me is when I try to take a nap and I have somewhere, somewhere to go where I'm not supposed to go to sleep, but I'm like, oh, I'm going to do 30 minutes.
Starting point is 01:03:34 That's me in the airport. And it's like, your body's like trying to nap, but it also knows it can't. So it's like, that's when I've had it. Sleep paralysis is only when I know I'm on a time crunch. When I have to get up for the airport, I get the worst sleep. Because I'm so afraid of losing, missing my flight. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Hey, have you guys had Vicki Joy Anderson on? I don't think so. She used to have her on. It's very interesting, her research. I had her in my film to discuss her thoughts on sleep paralysis experiences, and she talked about her study that she's been doing for a very long time with dozens of people, if not hundreds, who have had sleep paralysis and documenting their experience. And she approaches it through a, I guess you could say, biblical spiritual lens. She believes people are having demonic experiences during these sleep paralysis events, and she has some very interesting theories about it,
Starting point is 01:04:34 and it's based on the experiences that people have told her about, and she claims that the experiences people are having are changing collectively. Maybe in the 80s, 90s, early 2000s, people were continuing to have these experiences with shadow people, shadow entities, but she said in recent times, specifically with younger generations who spend a lot of time online or with technology, that they are having these sleep paralysis experiences, but they're being visited by these cyborg-like digital entities, and the experiences seem to have a technological feel to it. Like Johnny said, it sometimes seems like he's not really in his room,
Starting point is 01:05:25 maybe a different location. She believes their consciousness may be actually being transported or they're phasing into a different reality where they're encountering some of these strange beings, but she believes there is a quote-unquote demonic agenda behind this. Now, I'm not sure if I subscribe to that. I think it's a very interesting theory, but she cites how during the experiences at times, they are very sexual. He used to have the succubus that would seduce the man or the incubus that would seduce the woman. Well, now she believes that there is this etheric gay grooming program by entities- What? Now we're in it.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Uh-oh. Ethereal gay groomers. Oh, boy. Ethereal gay groomers that are approaching children during sleep paralysis states and initiating sexual activity or enticing them to perform different sexual acts. Oh, that got dark. Basically grooming young children to be attracted to the opposite sex. And this is based on her study, this isn't me, but I just do find it very interesting that she is actually
Starting point is 01:06:46 re- you know, reiterating that people are having these types of experiences and the changes in the sleep paralysis experiences. As far as gay grooming interdimensional beings, I don't know. It's just a fun little tangent. No, it's a weird little tangent for sure. I think there could be something to that. You know, I don't know about the sleep paralysis part. I'm not saying it's not real. It's definitely possible. You know, so I got to watch more of that Peter Thiel interview. Oh boy, it's wild, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:07:22 I mean, it is the most insane thing I've ever heard in my life. And you have a guy who's gay lover got thrown off or fell off a balcony. Who calls himself a Christian. Who's now calling himself a Christian and telling everybody the Orthodox Church is in the transhumanism. Yeah. Yeah, he says that they don't go far enough for Christians. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, so we're like, we're turning dicks in the vaginas.
Starting point is 01:07:50 That's not enough. We got to go farther. And you're like, dude, it is the craziest interview you will ever want. And like, even the guy, I don't know if he's friends with Peter Thiel, but even he had to like go, whoa, bro. Well, he's a, he's a pretty respected journalist, kind of a somewhat right wing guy. I can't remember. He went, he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can tell he was like, whoa, you are way off the ranch on this one. And you've got this guy that just sweats all the time. He wasn't that sweaty in that interview.
Starting point is 01:08:21 That was the one exception. He did it. He must've gotten Botox or something, so he stopped sweating. But you know, this guy who's gay love, I don't do it, again, I don't care what adults do, but this guy, I mean, every time we see someone fall off a balcony, it's very suspicious.
Starting point is 01:08:40 That's why they have like the fence wall right there that you're not supposed to go over. Do you think it's on purpose? Because I mean we're all we're all like kind of overreacting to it Do you think it's theater that he's kind of like pushing it like the narrative? Like someone must tell him like hey, this is a little crazy for no I think it's what him in that group want to do I mean you got Elon Musk talking about an AI God is coming you You got, you got, you know, uh, that, that weirdo carp who's just like, you know, we're going to haunt your dreams. You got Larry Ellison who was like, we're going to, you know, make sure you're on your best behavior.
Starting point is 01:09:18 These are the people who are all sexual deviants are all telling us about being on our best behavior. But the reason I bring that up is that if it's happening here in this realm, why wouldn't it happen in the other realm? Well, there's also the theory about hacking dreams, using frequencies to be able to access people's inner consciousness, subconsciousness, and dream states, and what if they can hack in there and present as an entity that is giving them information? And honestly, this could also be happening with people's psychedelic experiences. I think, you know, people like you talk about all the time in the Silicon Valley, nerd-dark
Starting point is 01:10:03 realm that are microdosing. Who knows if they're maybe contacting some type of entities, but there's theories that they are indeed, you know, frequencies out there or some kind of exotic tech that can hack people's dreams and cause certain images and information to show up there. Pete Slauson I wouldn't doubt it, dude. I mean, to me, the biggest proof of God is demons, devils, and darkness. If we know we live in a yin and yang world, that's the biggest, you know, I mean, God's love and all that stuff. But, you know, if you even want to talk about with an atheist, like, there's these demons. Like, we had that guest the other day, you know, and it was an enjoyable conversation, but his inability to
Starting point is 01:10:51 look at Alistair Crowley as a dark entity is like, it's telling. But Alistair Crowley makes me believe that there's God, because he is so dark, there must be a counter to it. So if we have this gay agenda happening, again, I have so many problems in my life, I don't care what adults do. As long as you're not hurting people and particularly children, I can't control you. God gave us free will. They have chosen their path, whatever,
Starting point is 01:11:26 and I'm not saying anything about that, but if you think that is a sin, then they will deal with that with God. That's my opinion. And it's not gonna make people happy. But I just can't, I can't ask people to stay out of my life, the government stay out of my life, and then micromanage other people's lives. And I do believe that there are certain groups out there, women, gays, blacks, you
Starting point is 01:11:52 know, Jews, that need to start doing some serious self-centering, self-censoring. And you see now in the black community with the, you know, the black fatigue and the black conservatives. What do you mean by you mean like self-policing each other? Yeah themselves Yeah, I mean because look, you know, the narrative is pushed that white people for the for the beginning of through time I've been racist and there's probably something to it. I would tell you that everybody was racist Yes, of course But though the white racism has been highlighted by the media in Hollywood who runs that and then you know, but then there became a self-regulating and it's like it's shunned and now there's kind of an over an overreaction to it. Then now we're just talking shit about everybody, which I think is how it should be,
Starting point is 01:12:46 by the way. I think there should be no protected classes, and nobody should be above criticism and comedy. And you can pass all the laws you want, it's never gonna stop, it's actually gonna make it worse. So there needs to be a regulation, there needs to be a regulation of the crime issue in the black community, there needs to be a regulation. There needs to be a regulation of the crime issue in the black community.
Starting point is 01:13:05 There needs to be a regulation of the hoflation with women. And you know, it's like, you know, I watch Andrew Tate and I'm not a big fan. The guy talked about this before, but you know, his whole thing with Bonnie Blue, that woman who set the record for most guys in one night, acting like she's achieved something, you know? In a society built on getting money and getting pussy, it's not really an achievement, right?
Starting point is 01:13:30 The only reason giving money is seen as unnoble is because it's taken away from you. When you give up ass, it's not really taken away. You don't realize it until later, the ramifications of it. It's really the men who should be commended for their sacrifice. Yeah, at least the guy that won't last. God bless him. What women don't understand is women always go, well, guys are like, uh, celebrated when they get a lot of women because they got to convince a woman to give it up.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Right? Like that is, that is, it's almost when you get in the marriage, why is a marriage such a big deal for a woman, because a man decided he wanted to get married. He's giving up a certain bit of freedom in that, which, and it's very noble, and the family unit's very important, you know, but the giving up of the ass is like as easy as giving away money.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Right? If we're downtown in San Diego where everyone's partying, I got a hundred bucks or a chick will in the sling. It's a real debate, which goes first. It's a real debate, you know, so that needs to be regulated. And you see the anti-feminism movement within women happening right now now because it's been Disastrous and like Andrew Dates said he goes women have chosen this we can't we can't judge That's the that's the road that they've chosen Yeah, because it's instant Graphication and it's had disasters of facts and before you yell at me look at the level mental illness
Starting point is 01:15:03 What are they saying like 60 70 of women say they experience mental illness. Really? It's like a huge number. When you're younger, boys are on more medication. Why? Because they're trying to just numb them out so they sit in school and shut up. They're not meant to sit down. They're meant to run around and explore forests and stuff like that. So we're domesticating boys, but as you get older women tend to be have a higher level of mental illness. Postpartum is a big one. Postpartum, but even before that because the the the feminist lie is just drilled into them.
Starting point is 01:15:42 And then they get to the real world and they realize it doesn't exist. It's not real. Or worse, you've left your baby making years without a baby and you realize you want one. And that's the worst. And now you're, you know, and it's just like, and it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:16:01 And then now you're gonna start seeing that with Jews, with Zionists, you know, and you're gonna start seeing that with Jews, with Zionists. You know, and you're seeing a big pushback in the Jewish community. I know I can hear Adam Green screaming at me right there, but you know, I do see it happening. I mean, I don't know if you guys seen it, but the Candace Owens versus 20 Feminist?
Starting point is 01:16:18 She does pretty good. I mean, they all have their points where they push back, but she kind of ends up winning where she's like, you're gonna be sad if you wanna to keep because and it's just statistics I hate that don't they they hate it. She's like cuz cuz and one of her points she's like so you're saying you rather have a Award-winning book or your kids and she's like look the book was great But the books never gonna come to my deathbed and said thank you for doing this for me mom Yeah, the books not gonna wipe your ass when you can't move.
Starting point is 01:16:45 And they hated when she said that. She's like, I would take my kids over the award-winning book I sold, and some of them were like, and she's like, yeah, my kids bring me more happiness, plain and simple. Here's the thing that people don't understand. This is for men and women.
Starting point is 01:16:59 And it's experienced in different ways. But there comes a point point around 35 years old, the phone starts ringing less and less and less and less. And it's not that people don't like you, it's not that people don't, that you're no longer important. Everyone around you, your age, their worlds get smaller. They stop leaving the house as much. They start focusing on the ones that have children,
Starting point is 01:17:23 focusing on their children. The phone just doesn't ring anymore. And that becomes convenient only to hang out with other people who have kids because, you know, you can kind of communally. Because bitch about, oh god, these kids are running me up. And the kids can all get together, yeah. Yep, it's just the way it is.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Now we see that. Yeah, so let's get into, let's get into Skidwalker Ranch. You went out there, what was that like? Oh, dude Ryan burns is like one of my clothes. I know I want us all to go We should we me next year shoot it and you just go out there I need to start looking at my calendar and going okay. I got one weekend booked and stand up I got to make my money, but if I have like three weeks open maybe we go somewhere weird do something weird we should shoot some tinfoil hat just productions yeah and I mean we got the cameras here now in the
Starting point is 01:18:12 studio we can shoot anything we want yeah it was I highly recommend you go and check it out Sam he has space wolf research and it is literally right next door to skinwalker Ranch. I could stick my foot through the fence and touch the property. And we stayed there a couple of nights. What I'll say is the paranormal thing is pretty impressive. UFOs all over the place. Had some very creepy things happen.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Possibly a hitchhiker follow me and my wife home but the the most concerning thing was he running i mean no no not a hitchhiker entity which you call a like a ghost hitchhiker type thing so we're out there during during the date the first day you know Ryan's just telling us some crazy stories that he's experienced and As soon as nightfall comes the whatever the hell is shooting across the sky is happening constantly all night It's not there are satellites there are planes, but a lot of the stuff stuff I couldn't tell you what it is orbs things that shoot across the sky at an extremely high rate of speed some that kind of just Pass pretty slow and they just like floating like floating orbs that aren't even that high
Starting point is 01:19:39 over the mesa they had these What Ryan says are portals that open up. You could see this bright white light kind of manifest open and the smaller little beads of light would shoot out of them and then they'd close up and this was happening constantly. We got some pretty interesting footage of that. The most concerning thing over there wasn't the UFOs or the possibility of getting eaten by a skinwalker or ghosts. It's when Ryan broke out the night vision goggles and we started to look around the areas near us and there were people that were
Starting point is 01:20:19 shining these lasers at us. It turns out these people were teams of Black Ops, uh, military groups that have that area under constant surveillance. They're always out there. If you go out there, you're going to be surveyed by the military, by these Black Ops teams. They had these weird purple lasers they were pointing at us. You could see them moving around and the reason is because this may not come to a surprise to you, but that entire area is mainly an exotic military weapons testing area. They use the paranormal stuff as a cover. Yes, a lot of high strangeness happens there, but I guarantee you most of the shit that people are experiencing and seeing is our military, is these aerospace companies experimenting with everything from UFOs, nanotechnology,
Starting point is 01:21:13 frequencies that can make you hallucinate, make you see things, make you sick, give you certain diseases. The nanotechnology, Ryan claims, he has witnessed these nanobots form into a coyote, then shapeshift into a humanoid, and attack one of his friends by pinning him against the wall, then shapeshift back into these nanoparticulates. And he doesn't believe it's anything paranormal or unexplained. You think it's very exotic technology that they've been testing out there So that was the most probably the most concerning things But some of the stories he told me about the shit he's experienced is
Starting point is 01:21:59 so Extremely wild. I'll tell you a couple of the things the first one was extremely wild. I'll tell you a couple of the things. The first one was his security guy one evening. I think this was maybe a couple years ago. He's out patrolling the area on the ranch and he has these like storage units and trailers spread out across the property and his security guy comes up on one of them and they have these three guys rummaging through trash and he is armed. So he points his firearm at him and he tells them to freeze. And at the same time, they synchronistically all freeze and get down on all fours like canines and stare up at the dude and they have eye shine like like dogs and he's scaredy-guys like don't fucking move
Starting point is 01:22:52 don't do anything and at the same time it's like they were moving in unison they stood up and started lunging at him on all fours like dogs he was far enough to where he was able to start unloading on them. He claims he hit them multiple times. It took them several shots to start to be deterred. But once they were, they synchronistically turned around and started running on all fours the opposite direction, leaping over fences, multiple fences, until they were no longer visible. The craziest part about that was the next day there was police reports about four members of the Ute tribe that were found dead in four separate locations of gunshot wounds.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Whoa! Yeah, crazy shit. Whoa! Well, crazy. Well, now that suggests a supernatural explanation. That does definitely suggest a supernatural. Maybe it's a nice stew of that, of government. I mean, the government worked with aliens before. There are a slew of occultists out there now. Not just people who want to go out there and do rituals and stupid teenagers. There are high level military generals and entities and people that go out there to do rituals and shadow work.
Starting point is 01:24:14 And Ryan facilitates his property for a lot of these people. They throw money at him and he's like, sure, come do whatever the hell you want. Yeah, Ryan's doing great. And he has these aerospace companies, but people are doing basically satanic rituals out there all the time. And these, the you tribe is notorious for being linked with the skin Walker. And there's a lot of stories about these members of the you tribe that are using sorceryy black magic and the skin Walker magic to affect a lot of things out there and they're one of the primary real supernatural things that you're gonna witness you still want to go Johnny
Starting point is 01:24:55 no no I'm out bro we're going dude I didn't tell you the holy water story yet. Pete Slauson Okay, let's hear the holy water story. I'm in. Jared Sussman So, Ryan has this dude living on his property, just kind of fenced off on his own. And the guy is a self-proclaimed Satanist. Ryan and him have his own deal going. He's renting him the property for whatever reason. Love Ryan. Ryan's actually a Christian. He's a great dude, amazing guy. Pete Slauson He's a great guy. Jared Slauson And I think he's just so nice to everyone that he'll let a Satanist stay at his place. So, that's probably what's going on and this
Starting point is 01:25:35 guy's on his property. Pete Slauson I mean, if you're running paranormal Disneyland, everybody's invited. Jared Slauson Yeah, everybody wants to go. So, this Satanist dude has a tent and an RV, and on top of the tent he has these lights that he claims will summon the old ones at night. Oh, no, not the old ones. We don't need the old ones. To project all kinds of things. We're fine without the old ones. Yeah, if you want old ones, go to senior citizens.
Starting point is 01:26:02 We don't need any more old ones. So, yeah, claiming to try and summon the old ones, he walks around in this red robe and hood all the time. That's all you ever see him in. He's got this weird magical staff. I mean, he looks the part for sure. There was a period of time where Ryan let him stay in his main trailer for some reason. When Ryan gets back, he finds that this Satanist dude has left sigils and markings and weird symbols all over the inside of his trailer, written in this black, unidentifiable substance. And the guy can't be found for a while to figure out how to get it off. Ryan is trying everything to get these symbols off. he's trying to wash them off with everything known to man and they will not come off. So he's like, what do I do with this? So he goes talk to a member of the U tribe who's also a healer and spiritualist and
Starting point is 01:26:55 medicine man, and he says, well, you know what you got to do, you got to get holy water, that's the only thing that's going to work. And he's like,'s like bullshit but lo and behold they go and get some holy water from I believe the nearest church and they when they threw the holy water at this sigil it burns it like dissipates into a mist and disappears holy waters the only thing that got those symbols off this should be a show on Apple I Don't know why you're on hasn't pitched that he's also got naked youth women running around with medicine Hope inflation dude the paranormal was doing whole place way before everybody else Damn, dude. I'm telling you man
Starting point is 01:27:46 Like i'm usually not into that stuff You ever hear that the the mothers of darkness have you ever heard of them? We've talked. Yeah, I think we've talked briefly about them on the show before but supposedly they have this castle and these stupid tourists Went there and for some reason the guy The guy's chick went and knocked on the door. To the mothers of darkness? Castle. Are they like mothers against drunk driving?
Starting point is 01:28:10 No, they're mothers against God. They're basically like all this demonic shit, right? No thank you. Yeah, if you look it up, mothers of darkness, they have a castle. Great band name, but not a great group. I wanna say it's in Switzerland, but I could be wrong But it's really dark and this chick goes knocks on the door
Starting point is 01:28:30 Somebody opens the door grabs her closes the door and she's never heard from again. Whoa That's why would you go knock on that door? What's her name? Who is she who the? The woman who disappeared at the Mothers of Darkness house. That's crazy. Yeah. Crazy. Are we looking for her? Did anybody call the police? Yeah, I'm sure if you're, hey, my girlfriend's inside the Mother of Darkness castle. Can you come help me? I'm sure you hear, they hang up on you right there. I think it's in Belgium? Oh yeah, the Mother's of Darkness castle. Yeah, that's it, Chateau des Améros, Amérus, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:13 Amérois. Amérois. That'll probably be an episode. Amérois maybe? Well maybe episode 100 we can go there? No, we already know, dude, we didn't even. Episode 100 of that conspiracy, that's a whole different show, we're not gonna call it 10-4. We'd call it Sam's adventures. Yeah, dude. I am NOT going in To near the mother so wait until you want to fake your own death and then we'll
Starting point is 01:29:40 Something you've been trying to fake your death who's this new roommate you have all this one Johnny's onto something. You've been trying to fake your death. Johnny, who's this new roommate you have? Oh, that's Juan Guerrero's. You can't use my name. Pick a different name, Sam. Oh, shit! You just gave it away! Guerrero! Yeah, everyone knows my last name. Okay, okay. Maybe I'm your cousin, your fat old cousin. Don't go Mexican right now. You don't go Mexican right now. Swamp in brown face?
Starting point is 01:30:01 Yeah, don't go Pablo. I think he's got makeup on. No, dude, he's just got a skin disease. He's very weird. It's Villalago. It's Fidelago. Like Michael Jackson. Yeah, I mean that's crazy shit, dude. That is crazy. So, real sense of danger around Skinwalker, huh? Is that right? Well, I had an uneasy feeling the entire time and it wasn't just because I was expecting something around the corner or entire time and it wasn't just because I was expecting something around the corner or because of the UFOs or anything else. It's just the energy there is dense and dark and fake. It could be a little bit if you add in the military aspect, there's a lot of fake and gayness going on there. But yeah. And when we left, my wife and I are best friends. We never are Baby and we you know, we're fine, but when we left there like the entire ride home
Starting point is 01:30:58 It was this heaviness we get home and like we're depressed for some never depressed. We're sad We have all this kind of angst, we're sad. We have all this kind of angst, we're arguing, we're like, what the hell is going on? And the only thing we can think is, oh, I don't know, maybe there's some kind of hitchhiker effect. I did find a rock from there that I was messing with that I had thought I'd taken out of my bag, but it was still in my bag. So, we went and got rid of that thing and said some prayers and that seemed to work. Because after that, it seemed like, you know, energy is lifted and stuff. But I don't know, it does have, definitely
Starting point is 01:31:38 have a sense of, you know, darkness and dread. And I think there's a lot of oppression with the the people around there and a lot of experimentation obviously that they don't even know about Ryan was telling me about a guy who died because he was Walking along just minding his business and he sees this massive UFO coming along and it's getting closer to him and he starts running and it starts chasing after him So the only thing he can do is find his nearest retention pond and he jumps in the UFO turns on this
Starting point is 01:32:15 Bright ass red light that lights up the whole area and goes Swooping in almost a few feet over him and he jumps into the retention pond in almost a few feet over him and he jumps into the retention pond he said he can feel this immense heat from the red light that was slowly passing over him as the UFO passed over the retention pond it slowed down to slowly pass over him with whatever this huge red light was he gets out and his entire body is sunburned even like underneath his clothes somehow. And a few months later, he's diagnosed with cancer and dies. Oh, I'm not going there.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Johnny. Well, if I show up, I'm dressed Russian Orthodox. I'm showing up in straight up Christian gear, dude. We don't need to go there. Okay. Johnny's out. Johnny's out. Johnny's no longer going to do our fun show. Tim Fall on the road. TFH Road? Okay, we'll drive by.
Starting point is 01:33:11 No, the one he really wants to do is Bledsoe's ranch or their house or whatever. Yeah, I would like to go to North Carolina and do that for sure. No, it's funny because it's right up his house. That's why. I figured out why he wants to go back to the ranch. It's like an hour and a half down the road. Not too far. That's the opposite side of the spectrum. That's the love and light beings as opposed to the skinwalker, no rapey beings. I hope so. So, let's get into your near-death experience to help you find God. We'll wrap it up with that.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Oh, man. Well, I'm going to have to condense this because it's got a lot to it. Well, I'm going to have to condense this because it's got a lot to it. But I really thank this experience for my understanding of everything and my reconnection with God source and Christ. This happened this past year, May the 4th, may the 4th be with you all. It was 2024 and May the Fourth be with you all. It was 2024 and things were going good. And I was finishing up with my, I was starting with my second film. And I, but I still didn't have that real spiritual connection I wanted. I had all these considerations. I grew up Catholic, but that scared the hell out of me growing up. Fire, brimstone, crazy dogma, vengeful God stuff. But I knew there was something to it. I knew there was something there.
Starting point is 01:34:31 I resonated with the teachings of Jesus Christ, but I didn't know where I fit into everything and what I should really be looking into and what I should pursue as my spiritual path, if I should even pursue anything, if I should just have these considerations, because there were so many possibilities that I considered at this time. Well, this one morning, wake up, my wife wants to go to a metaphysical fair, and usually I find those things kind of fun, but for some reason something was just irking me about it, and we get there and I just have this kind of nasty feeling for some reason. She wants to, she wants me to get an aura photography, which
Starting point is 01:35:13 is they take a picture of you and you can see in the picture this like light shining around you. And the psychic lady who takes a picture is supposed to interpret what the aura means. I couldn't tell you if that's all bullshit or not, but it was fun, so I decided yeah, I'll do it. Felt very strange about it, didn't know why. Then when it comes to the lady interpreting my aura, she says, you know, she's telling me all these things that are kind of like ringing true. She's like, oh, you have a very powerful voice. It looks like you do something with your voice and telling me all these other things. And voice. It looks like you do something with your voice and telling me all these other things and she gets to above my crown chocker and she's saying something about beliefs and I wasn't paying attention. Somebody came up and distracted me. It was one of the friends we're with and they
Starting point is 01:36:00 were joking around. They said, how rich is he going to be? And they're like, well, I don't know because he has no concrete beliefs. And I was like, oh, shit, I kind of don't. And that really bothered me. It's kind of stuck with me. And we left and I was pouting and I was like, what does that mean? And this psychic lady, why is she bringing that up? Especially at this during this time where I'm thinking about it so much so this was also the day that I was going to have my Monthly psilocybin journey, so I thought maybe I'll get some answers going in there and speaking with the guides and so I did I dosed up I Made contact with layered and He didn't have any answers for me.
Starting point is 01:36:46 It was the strangest interaction. He said, this one's for you, bud. Have fun tonight. And that was it. I couldn't get any more conversation. And then the series of events to follow were absolutely insane. I had a friend over that evening and usually I would just be by myself and this friend was staying over. He was hanging out with my wife and a couple other people and I was
Starting point is 01:37:11 going to have my own little experience on the other side of the house. But that didn't work out because you know, my guide took off on me. So I was like, all right, I'm going to go watch TV with, you TV with some friends up there. And I just started to, what's that? You're on shrooms. Shrooms. Yes. I started to feel uneasy.
Starting point is 01:37:31 And then I go outside, one of my friends follows me and we're having a conversation just about the business. He was, he's a, he's a partner of the business and we're talking about things. And I, above my head, I can see like a thought bubble, like in cartoons. he was he's a he's a partner of the business and we're talking about things and I Above my head I can see like a thought bubble like in cartoons and in that thought bubble I see that I've lived this life thousands of times and I could see that Each time I would learn and it would refine the experience in my life would get better each time and I thought catching up to now This seems like I'm doing pretty good. And then all of a sudden, something weird took me over
Starting point is 01:38:10 and I started to get angry that the majority of the population hasn't woken up yet. And I was like, why can't everyone wake up? They're holding us back. And I just started to get very angry. And all of a sudden, my I just started to get very angry, and all the sudden, my friend who is sitting there with me, he starts to talk to me, but I know it wasn't him talking, because I asked if he said these things the next day, and he said, I said, nothing of the sort, no. But something took over my perception and was speaking through him. I don't know how this worked, and was speaking through him. I don't know how this worked, but it said that at some point all of that becomes a reflection of yourself. And this is something that this dude would have never said and I was like, wow that makes
Starting point is 01:38:55 a lot of sense. And after he said that, something came over me and he's sitting there just staring at me and I something a knowing came over me that he's sitting there just staring at me and I, something, a knowing came over me that this is no longer your friend and you are no longer in material reality. And I was like, what does this mean? Oh, the next thing comes over me, this knowing, I knew, I don't, I can't explain it, I just knew that I died. I said, this knowing came over me that I died this evening and I am on the way to the other side. And I've started to freak out because I don't know why I'm this knowing is coming over me. And I asked my friend, I said, am I dead? And he's like, you might be. And I said, well, can I go back? He's
Starting point is 01:39:43 like, if you do, you have to start all over like you've done before. And I said, well, can I go back? He's like, if you do, you have to start all over like you've done before. And I said, what the fuck? And I'm just freaking out. He goes inside and I follow him in and then I'm freaking out talking to him and he turns around and he's like back to normal. It's him again. He's like, I don't know what you're talking about, dude, but you might be having a bad trip, go sit down. I go sit down and I didn't feel right at all, man. Something like this weird knowing, like I said, it felt like I had died. And then all of a sudden, this like demon face came out of my TV, growled at me. I look over at my friend and he is literally a corpse. He's dead, but he's talking to me He says all you gotta do is just sit back and watch TV and enjoy everything. I Freak out I will run back to my wife and she is also
Starting point is 01:40:33 I'm perceiving her as a corpse and she's yelling at me and all these things that very out of character for her so I completely freak out and run outside and The outside looked much different. It seemed like all the streetlights were out, and I just knew, I said, I have died, and because I didn't have a belief, I am stuck in some sort of purgatory. So, I immediately said, okay, Jesus, God, help me something, what is going on? And then I just decided, you know what, if I'm dead, and friend, wife wasn't coming outside to look for me, so I'm thinking, you know, this is it. I've really died somehow. I don't know, but I'm going to figure this out.
Starting point is 01:41:18 So, I start walking through my neighborhood, okay, and I'm thinking to myself, I'm going to find God and I'm going to find out what the hell's going on. And so I'm thinking to myself, I'm going to find God and I'm going to find out what the hell's going on. And so, I continue to walk and as I'm walking, I'm having a life review, a legit life review. I'm remembering almost everything in my life and feels like it's, you know, being shown to me in a sense that I could also experience what other people felt when I was being a dick and all of these things. It was very detailed. And I thought, oh, this is going to be a long fucking night. I keep walking and there's this crossroads. I can take a right and it's kind of dark down
Starting point is 01:41:56 that road or I could go straight and it's a row of streetlights. I start to walk straight and the first streetlight blows out as I walk under it. And I said, okay, that may be a sign I shouldn't go this way. I turn right and I'm walking and I just, I feel hopeless. I feel like I don't know where I'm going. I don't know if I'm going to find God. I'm still just believing. It's like this knowing I'm dead and I've accepted it. I'm like, okay, I'm dead. I just got to find God. And then I just decide to lay down in the middle of the street. I'm like, maybe, so maybe if I lay down here, I'll float up to heaven, angels will come get me, or I'll seep down to hell and I'll give the devil a piece of my mind and tell him how I feel.
Starting point is 01:42:39 So, none of these things happened. I'm just sitting there laying and I'm looking up at the stars and I'm like, wow, the stars are pretty beautiful here in the afterlife, especially in Purgatory. You wouldn't expect this kind of beauty. And then this voice came back and it said, even in the afterlife, it's all about perspective. And I just got up and I was like, that's okay. That's very interesting. And this voice said, look for a light, but close your
Starting point is 01:43:06 eyes and find it there. So I did. I closed my eyes and I'm looking for this light. And at first, I don't see anything but darkness. And then I'm moving my head around and I see this light in the distance. It closed my eyes. There's this light and I said, I'm going to head that way. So I'm walking and all of a sudden I enter this new neighborhood that I've never been in before and the houses are really nice and looks like a, you know, pretty rich neighborhood. And I'm walking around and I'm like, wow, this may be a different section of the afterlife. And then I just said, you know what, I'm gonna have to go and knock on one of these doors because I think maybe one of these doors
Starting point is 01:43:44 will lead me to where I need to go. And this is what is just coming to my mind at this time. So I see a huge welcome sign at one of these houses at the end of the street and it was lit up brighter than any of the other houses. It's a beautiful big white house. They had a huge white truck in the driveway. So I'm like, that's gotta be it. I'm either gonna ring this doorbell and whoever's there is gonna call the cops. But since this is
Starting point is 01:44:11 the afterlife, they're gonna bring me to hell anyway and I'll just speak with the devil. So this is all going through my mind. It's like, or it could be an angel that answers the door and I'll be brought to heaven. I ring the doorbell and this beautiful blonde haired lady answers the door and I'm like, is this where I'm supposed to be? And she said, oh, hold on a second. She closes the door. A few minutes later, this dude answers, big burly dude. And he's got this beautiful energy about him and he's smiling and he's like, hey son, can I help you? And I said, sir, I think I died. And he said, he said, really? I don't know. Let's see. Shake my hand. And I shook his hand. He's like, I don't think he died. You're here and I'm alive. So what else could it be? I was like, well, I did eat a bunch of mushrooms, but that can't be it. I don't know. So, he's like,
Starting point is 01:45:06 well, son, would you like to pray with me? And I said, yes. And in my heart, I knew, I was like, this is it. This is the angel that's going to bring me to heaven. I'm still thinking I'm dead. So, we get down and we start praying, and I'm crying, and it's such a beautiful experience. And he says, well, let's get you home. And I'm like, how am I supposed to do that? And then I'm crying and it's such a beautiful experience. And he says, well, let's get you home. And I'm like, how am I supposed to do that? And then I'm thinking, oh, I'm going to wake up in the hospital on an operating table. I've been in a coma and I'm a pop back.
Starting point is 01:45:33 And that's what this whole experience has been, a near death experience. And I'm literally thinking this and he's like, oh, well, let's get you home. Let's get you in my truck. It's like, we're going to take your truck there. And I'm like pointing to this guy He's like he's like no
Starting point is 01:45:50 So I was like, all right, we're at whatever I don't know how we're gonna do that and Somehow I give him directions punches in the GPS and we're driving and he's I was like man, you you know JC, right? I should talk about him more on the show. And he's like, yeah, yeah. And I forget the rest of the conversation. I get home and I'm like, how am I supposed to go there? I'm still thinking I'm dead. He's like, maybe just open the door and walk in. I was like, all right, I will give it a shot.
Starting point is 01:46:18 So I give him the biggest hug and I go inside and there's my friend, there's my wife and they're worried as shit, and they look normal and everything's fine. And they're like, what happened? I said, I don't want to talk about it. I grabbed a bottle of wine, went down it. But here's where everything comes together.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Again, the next day, I'm shook. I had no idea what that was all about. So I go and I'm like, I got gotta find this dude. I drive directly to his house and I don't know how because I couldn't remember how I got there the night before. I drive directly there. I knock on the door. Same beautiful blonde-haired lady answers the door. She's like, Chris, I'm so glad you're okay. And she gives me a hug. And she said, I'm not going to say his name, but my husband is, he's giving a sermon right now, he's a preacher, would you like to come to the service? And I said, holy shit. I was like, yes,
Starting point is 01:47:14 yes, I would. So, man, I went there and I still didn't know what it was all about. Am I supposed to denounce everything? I'm going to find Jesus and go, you know, become a member of the church and denounce all my heathen friends and all of this stuff. And I was kind of just scared about what it all meant because it was such a profound thing that I was asking to find God and this experience brought me to a preacher's house. So that's a big thing. I go to the church and as soon as I sit down in the pew, I start getting what you call downloads. Everything starts becoming clear. The voice is like,
Starting point is 01:47:54 we led you to this very moment, that first time we spoke with you during that meditation. This is what started everything and you are right where you need to be and your understanding will come together. And it started to come together a little bit, but now it's full circle. I had a conversation with the preacher after and it's exactly what I was concerned about. That church and that Christian belief along with many others is filled with toxic dogma and there's fear behind it. And the people in the church, I could feel their fear just behind if they make a mistake, will I go to hell? And the doctrine that keeps them
Starting point is 01:48:42 in a box and prevents them from living their life and understanding things truly. It's a destroyer of worlds, I believe. I believe dogma is one of the most toxic parasitic things that has made itself known on the planet, and especially Abrahamic religion dogma, the dogma associated with that. And I think that's a parasite. And my understanding is that J.C. came along with the easiest set of understanding that anyone could have about this reality. That's your matrix keys right there, the teachings of J.C. And all I needed to do is follow those teachings and I'm okay. And yes, I do believe in the teachings of Jesus.
Starting point is 01:49:29 I believe in Jesus and I consider myself a Christian, more of a Christian mystic, but again, I really don't like labels. I consider myself a spiritual person and the understanding I'm at now is the most comforting beautiful thing that I have ever Experienced because first of all, I know that there is a God I know that there's something that led me on that crazy near-death journey out there and has led me exactly right here onto tin foil hat show so Bang bang pow Chris great show dude. That was fire. Yeah, that was crazy
Starting point is 01:50:07 I do you think that maybe your trips are the reason you don't grow shrooms anymore Yeah, well, I don't do them anymore. I mean after that that was it. That was my cap I do I do not need them anymore like McKenna says you get the message you hang up that damn phone I got the message There's no need for me to can I really going back? I respect that one more time tell me where they can find you Chris. Yes, sir Website forbidden knowledge dot news. That's also the forbidden knowledge network You can find a bunch of other incredible podcasts that we feature. We're on all podcast platforms
Starting point is 01:50:42 we're on rumble we are still some of the few survivors on Rockfin. Let's see, the films. You can watch the Forbidden Documentary, Occult Louisiana, right now on Tubi and other streaming platforms, Roku, Apple, all the other ones. And Doors of Perception just came out Amazon Prime super proud of this film working on the sequel right now and it should be available on the free streamers within a month or so well it was great episode best episode you've done so far it was really great and we had a great time talking to you and I thought was fun and look forward to the next one. And let's break down the episode. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino where the excitement is always on deck.
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Starting point is 01:52:33 If it makes you find pieces He found Jesus it was a he knocked on the right door Seriously took him home that chick didn't go get her big husband go thump on him Yeah, he's really lucky that he didn't knock on a different door. Yeah, I get Been what was that place you were talking about where they just grabbed that person and pulled him inside and never saw them again Dude how about uh, how about a story about the the guy shooting a dog man and then four different Natives were found shot to death in different places. Wild. That's a crazy story dude. It is. It truly is.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Yeah. I mean let's not forget his reptilian girlfriend. Yeah that was like. What if she would turn, what if she was just really sweet and he was just having a bad trip but she's like a sweet girl. It might, that might have be a part of it dude. Because you ever, you ever like sometimes my girl have a dream about like me or something I did something bad and then that whole next day. She's just mad at me for nothing And you're like I didn't actually do anything. Yeah, what if his girl was just like this Johnny this is what this will help when she goes. I dream I saw you cheat on me. You asked her was she hot? this will help, when she goes, I dream last night you cheated on me,
Starting point is 01:53:43 you ask her was she hot? Was she hot? Are you trying to get me kicking the balls? Was she hot? I wonder if women have dreams of their guys cheating on them with ugly people. That would really piss me off. Yeah, that would be.
Starting point is 01:53:59 I remember when I was at the hotel I was valeting at and Kobe Bryant was there, and I'm likeeting at and Kobe Bryant was there and I'm like if Dana called me and was like Kobe wants to hit I go okay enjoy it I can't really hate you for that. I can't really hate you for that. No but you're right if my girlfriend like woke up in the morning she's like you were cheating on me in my dream and I asked is she high and she said no she's ugly I'd be upset.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Yeah then you both met at each other. Have you ever had a dream where somebody else is cheating on you by the way girls only women have those dreams I've never had a dream About that. Yeah, that's a woman dream. Totally like I've never known a guy to have a dream like that I've had a dream where like guys dream about like fighting stuff Saving the world. It's that it's that Mitch Hedberg joke where he's talking about putting together a Go-kart with his gym teacher from seventh grade, you know, it's weird shit like that. It's that it's that Mitch Hedberg joke where he's talking about putting together a go-kart with his gym teacher from seventh grade You know, it's weird shit like that. It's not
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Starting point is 01:59:08 Yeah. I mean, and it, and I say this a thousand times, anybody in kids entertainment that doesn't have children is suspect to me. And I, and I mean, universally, I don't know why you'd be like, Oh, there's a lot of money in it. Okay. But why did you come up with it? And it just, it's just, it's really, especially men. It's shady. Yeah. I get women, maybe you're natural, naturally got maternal instincts. Yeah. Guys, it creeps me out every fucking time. Well, especially him. I always just found him creepy, honestly.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Well, it's, you know, and this is what we get into when, when we talk about queer theory and how, like there's this famous, um, video of this professor basically debating an entire class on the history of, of, uh, queer theory. And it's, he says it's roots are pedophilia. Oh boy. And do you got beep that? Yeah, I will. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:11 Okay. Well, he says it's the roots of blah, blah, blah. Right. Yeah. And he brings up all the, the, the kind of the forefathers of the term queer theory and he quotes their books and it's all in there so you have this guy Paul Rubin who lets you kind of look into who he really is I've met this dude a thousand times in LA the corporate hey guy slitting throats dude, slitting throats.
Starting point is 02:00:45 Is this necessary? Yeah, that's it. You want to watch it real quick? Yeah, watch it. This is great. This is a masterclass. There is a long correlation between anarchism and pedophilia and support for pedophilia. Did he say anarchism is that what he said?
Starting point is 02:01:00 Yeah, but it leads into what we... Okay. Queer theory. Okay. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,opardy. This is, we're going to play queer theory, pedophilia, and Jeopardy. Okay, answer. Commonly called the godfather of queer theory. Who is Foucault? I got it. Okay, 100 points.
Starting point is 02:01:42 Foucault, another way to ask this is who argued, no I guess the answer would be, argued for the eradication of age of consent laws as in down to infants. Who is Foucault? Thank you. Okay, next one. The author of the founding document of queer theory. Who is Gail Rubin? What percentage, don't know the answer is, 50%. Question is? question is the amount in that article that was in defense of pedophilia specifically quote boy lovers oh
Starting point is 02:02:32 this is wild class and since you're not believing me quote quote this is in the founding document of queer theory like communists and homosexuals in the 1950s boy lovers are so stigmatized that it is difficult to find defenders of their civil liberties, let alone for their erotic orientation. That's in the founding document of career theory. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm using facts. This is a master class.
Starting point is 02:02:58 A thousand apologies. One must never let facts in the way. Oh, she also compared, by the way, she compared pedophilia to a preference for spicy food. The thing is, I have never heard of anyone who has to have years of therapy because they ate hot and sour soup. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:03:20 So up to 200. Now it is pedophilia and queer theory for 300. That would be author of Montrell Sluts. Who is it? Author of Montrell Sluts and public sex. Pat Caliphia. Pat Caliphia.
Starting point is 02:03:35 We see you. Wait, wait, wait. What was it somebody said? Stay relevant. Okay, let's talk about Pat Cliff, yeah? Why don't you respond? Because I can't respond. You can't fucking transphobe.
Starting point is 02:04:02 Have you noticed it's just all women giving it back? Yeah, 100%. Okay, here's something from one of Pat Filippi's books. You know, it's really interesting. It's really interesting that when I actually start talking about the relationship between queer theory and anarchism and pedophilia, that it becomes... They really want to shut me up now. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:26 Okay, so here's Pat Califia. This guy's great. He's so great. This is like the worst hell gig ever. Yes. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Just a second. Just a second.
Starting point is 02:04:38 I was accused of homophobia because I'm against pedophilia. Yes. Right? Who is it who actually makes the connections between that? Got you. Okay, here's something by Pat Califfia. Pat Califfia has written, any child old enough to decide whether or not she or he wants to use... If you'd like to hear the rest of this episode, subscribe to Broken Simulation in your podcasting app or check us out at youtube.com slash Sam Tripoli. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino where the excitement is always on deck.
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