Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #905: Real Healing, AI Dangers & the "Love and Light" Trap with Jaya Simrit Kaur

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:59 Mel's game for as little as 50,000 months sent right to your house. Bang, bang pow. And we appreciate you guys tuning in. Very excited for today's show. Our guest, she is a spiritual healer. She's got some amazing, amazing stuff to talk about. And we're honored that she's here. Please welcome Jaya Simrit Kaur.
Starting point is 00:01:19 How are you? I'm awesome. Thank you so much for having me, Sam. How are you? We are blessed. We appreciate you Coming in at the last second and and doing our show for you. That means a lot to us. Ah Jaya for those who may not be familiar with you Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you?
Starting point is 00:01:39 yeah, so I'm a spiritual healer and teacher and a mystic and a mystic mentor and You can find me at my offerings page. There's a link in my Instagram bio at Jaya Simrit Kaur And I'm super excited to be here. Awesome. Thank you so much So, you know a little bit before we start recording, I was talking about my journey into spirituality. I can't close the door on anything. When I first started this podcast, I started going through this Buddhism and then I started going through all this spiritual, they would call woo woo stuff
Starting point is 00:02:26 and you know I was going to write a book with Mark and then I realized that my my beliefs changed so much that I did want to put out a book that didn't represent what I felt at the exact moment and time. So as I go through this and I have these kind of thoughts and I'm going to lose some people here, but I'm just being honest with you. I'm really kind of into like Christian mysticism, like the notion of like God above all, Jesus as my savior, but energy manipulation, portals, multiple dimensions, all that stuff. You know? You mean the fun stuff?
Starting point is 00:03:07 Well, the stuff that like. Fun parts. Well, fun parts, but also stuff that kind of like, you just see evidence of it popping up all over the time, all over the place. And I kind of get in this thing where it's like, am I gonna deny that evidence to fit a certain dogma? When I think maybe there's a way that all of it kind of meshes together in a way that
Starting point is 00:03:30 makes sense, you know? And so that's kind of where I'm at. If you know, if you get into star gates and portals and all that, where does that fit into everything? Where the moon, the moon being a energy collector, a soul catcher, a portal into this realm. Where does that fit into all that? And that's why I kind of keep my head on a swivel when it comes to whatever it really is.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I mean, as much as I do agree with you, but couldn't you just have like done like a part two, as in like the growing of you with the book? Yeah, I just, it didn't resonate with me. It was just like I would put out something I don't necessarily agree with at that moment. I think maybe right now, because I am so far into my journey,
Starting point is 00:04:14 I would be more comfortable putting out a book right now, compared to maybe five years ago when I was thinking about writing the book, because I have so much data, and I have so much data and I have so much data that I'm kind of more set into the where I kind of feel comfortable in. Do you understand what I'm saying? You know, so I find it interesting.
Starting point is 00:04:34 What's your thoughts? Yeah, I have a lot to say about that. First I think it's really actually really wise to have decided like, I'm not going to put myself in this box because my faith is evolving. And it reminds me of a friend of mine, I had her, her grandfather was a Buddhist monk for his whole life. Like, you know, she barely saw him,
Starting point is 00:04:58 even though they had a great relationship because he was living in a monastery. And towards the end of his life in his seventies, he actually became a Catholic and he converted. And she was like, you know, grandfather, why did you change your faith? And he was like, I didn't change my faith. I simply swam into a bigger ocean. I love that. Yeah. And that's really been my journey as well. It's not, and I feel it's very much the dogmatic principles that were made by man, created by man, that this religion is this and this practice is this and never the twain shall
Starting point is 00:05:35 meet. This one's right, this one's wrong, whatever. I don't believe that at all. And in my both research and personal experience, like in deep practice, it's not really true. So I don't think we have to put labels and doorways on it when it's really, I believe and have experienced that all of these beings are here for our greater evolution and awakening.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And they're just teaching in different languages because we don't all speak the same language. So whatever pathway works for you, I believe all roads lead to home. I can resonate with that. There's a lot of people, especially the atheists love to point out that the story is told over and over and over again in this religion,
Starting point is 00:06:22 that religion. I go, yeah, because they're just different times in history telling probably the same story that might have happened way longer than we think it did. And that doesn't say to me that religion is a fraud. That just says, maybe it's much older than we thought. And that maybe this event happened is resonating with all these different kind of religions. And you know, maybe, Anne, how about this? Maybe that story happens over and over again. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Well, I think it's certainly way older than the stories themselves. And I also think the stories are just ways to teach the teaching. So we can even like forget about the stories, like what is the actual teaching? Right? That's the important part. That's the juice of all of this and getting caught in the stories can sometimes muddle that, especially because the stories were made from man. So focusing on the actual principles of what the teachers are teaching, so Jesus was a teacher, Buddha was a teacher, these are all teachers and they're using their different words to try to express something because they've attained this knowledge and what do you do when you attain the highest knowledge? You want to share that with everyone else so everyone else can also
Starting point is 00:07:41 be at peace and feel this immense overwhelming love. So it's just the words are there and the scholars can argue about the words. And I think that's part of the pathway. I mean, that was a one point part of my work, you know? And then coming to the deep understanding, like there was a point for me where I was like, all right, I'm gonna stop reading all these books.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I've read enough books. What about the living book inside of me that all these teachers are pointing to? How can I learn how to read that? I absolutely love that. And that's such a great point. And it's like something I talk about all the time on the show. Johnny doesn't believe I'm psychic. I know I'm psychic. And I listen to my gut a lot. And I just kind of follow that feeling and you know nothing's 100% especially when you're dealing with conspiracies where we're trying to solve crimes in the dark so it's like you know you're never gonna get everything 100% correct all the time but you kind of have this feeling you
Starting point is 00:08:38 know you got it and I believe you got to listen to it and Johnny and I maybe I don't know where was Johnny but we were talking about this new thing that I've kind of come to this understanding that depression and anxiety come from when your programming and reality don't match, when your generational trauma from your parents, from your family, your mother, your grandmother, whoever it is, pounding into you this generational
Starting point is 00:09:07 trauma and then you go to school. Now you get more programming from the school. So you got this kind of hodgepodge of like a belief system and then you're shoved out into the world and none of it matches. And that's where your anxiety and depression comes from because everything you were told may not be as true as you thought it was going to be when you were young and naive. And also what you're describing is also a cognitive dissonance from psychology in a way where you take on new beliefs or new evidence that don't match what's been pre-established
Starting point is 00:09:39 and that's unsettling for people. Yeah, it's very hard to do because everyone thinks they got a great bullshit meter. And like so much of this, you know, I put, as Joe Rogan tweeted this yesterday, he was congratulating people who still don't believe in conspiracies as being able to really hold their ground. I'm paraphrasing the tweet, but really sticking to their guns in all this drama and all this chaos. And it's like, that is pure ego. That is pure ego to go, I'm not wrong. I am not wrong. And in this kind of spiritual warfare that we're in right now, and again, going back to what I'm talking about, simple versus easy, are you getting closer to God, are you getting farther from God? And when you believe in all this woke stuff,
Starting point is 00:10:30 or even if you believe in like the super duper Christian Zionist kind of view of the world where your religion has allowed you to accept the extermination of children as a spiritual movement and acceptable by God. These are where you start to rack up dark, dark energy, heavy energy starts to wear you down. And we've had discussions on the show and then I'll shut up because I'm doing all the talking, but we've had this discussion on the show and then I'll shut up because I'm doing all the talking, but we've had this discussion on the show about, you know, there's passages in the Bible where they say things that doesn't make sense if there's a loving God. And granted, it is like, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:17 the ownership of slaves and all that. And you brought up a really good thing, and Johnny said this before, is like, books written by man, dogma created by man, and I understand the Bible is a holy book and I respect it. This is not blasphemy or disrespect, but those are written by men at a certain time. It's like people who get mad at Mark Twain books because the N-word is in it, and you're like, that was the language of the time. Yeah You can't you can't punish something It's like when everyone hated John would like remember five years ago Like everyone wanted to kill John Wayne because they found out he was a racist and you're like well at the time that was a lot
Starting point is 00:11:57 More acceptable and he's dead Did they want to take his airport away? Yeah, it's like it's so dumb So that so I totally I totally agree with everything you're saying. It's like, you know, those moments, slavery was acceptable. Everyone, like the only people who didn't own slaves are probably slaves at that time, you know, and everyone owned it. And it is a book written by man in the words of man. I mean, even slaves aspired to have servants too.
Starting point is 00:12:24 That was the thing. Yeah. That was a real thing. Yeah. So, not to get too weird into the topic, but I totally understand what you're saying. So, why don't we get into like your journey? Okay, because I could go on a rabbit hole with like every single thing you said. Yeah, go, go. Okay, do that. We're loosey-goosey here. We should talk about my journey too, but yeah, I mean, I'll speak just for a second to like the Bible and other texts like these. So the Bible was written several hundred years after it happened, after the fact. So you have to consider that in, like there's evidence that we don't even remember 90% of
Starting point is 00:12:59 our own memories correctly. Yeah, yeah. So, right, there's actual evidence of this. So think about several hundred years into the future, then think about how many different languages it was translated into and the misinterpretation of that. Then think about the Council of Nicaea where certain powers that just decided to be in power at that time decided which books went in the Bible and which did not. And then think about all of the texts that we've found, some partial, some full, some
Starting point is 00:13:30 never at all, that didn't get put in. So it's so nuanced. And then think about like, well, what did they actually mean when they said these things? Were they talking like Jesus did in parable? And then the fact that like, even if the three of us were to go home tonight and write in our journals about this conversation, all three of those accounts would be different.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I agree with that too, 100%. That's not 300 years in the future, that's just like an hour, you know? So we have to consider that, and we also have to consider that at the end of the day, it was all written by man. I'm also not blaspheming the Bible. I say Psalms every day.
Starting point is 00:14:08 It's a part of my practice. But I also have my critical thinking skills and my intelligence. And my practices are more about the actual teachings of Jesus. And sometimes those conflict with the powers that be. And that's okay with me I see those just two paths to every religion
Starting point is 00:14:28 There's the path of the dogma and there's the path of the mystic the path of the dogma is I'm gonna believe what this says I'm not gonna question it I'm gonna do exactly what it says and I'm gonna go to heaven or whatever The path of the mystic is having this is the dogmatic path is a one-way relationship The path of the mystic is a two-way relationship with God. It's I want to investigate this I want to see what's actually true for me Maybe I don't know what's real so I want to see what's real and I want to meditate until I have this Experience that all these saints and mystics and yogis have where I which are available to every person
Starting point is 00:15:02 and mystics and yogis have, which are available to every person. Nobody's special here, just takes discipline. And to learn discernment, which is another thing that you mentioned, that I'm really big on teaching discernment in my work when I'm developing people spiritually, because you need to be able to have discernment when you're seeing, when you start open and see things
Starting point is 00:15:23 and hear things, perceive things. You need to have discernment because every bad thing in that those realms is not nice and then you also need to have discernment in this world we're living in and the deeper we go down this trajectory that we're on the more you need to have discernment we don't know half the time of what we're seeing is true or being told is true. We know they've had these AI technologies and been available to make these deep fakes for since the seventies. 100%, 100%.
Starting point is 00:15:54 So I feel that learning discernment is the best use of our time, energy and money that we can have because everybody's telling us everything. How the heck are we supposed to know what's true? There's not nobody you can go to that's going to be like, this is true. And this is not I mean, that's just not the world we're living in. So developing that discernment is huge. And so this is a huge big part of my teachings when I'm developing people
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah, you brought up how old AI is I just saw a video of a young lady talking about Evidence that AI is at least 40 years old. Maybe could even be 50 Who even knows but 40 year old AI and then you just start going through things that don't make sense 9-eleven when there's videos of no planes hitting and then people say, saw a plane down there looking up, saw a plane, okay, was that a missile? But then you have that weird video where the plane somewhat goes into the building, and you're like, and you just see,
Starting point is 00:17:00 they run it back and forth, and it just looks like it's a glitch in the Matrix. That would make it an 85, right? it just looks like it's a glitch in the matrix that would make it at 85 right? What 85 if it's 40 40 that means it's 85 It started in 85 was born in 85. Well, we're not I don't have the no No, no, I know but johnny was ai around around there. Was there a little bit of ai like nasa or them? You would say that's I don't know. Yeah, what it was is he going to area 51 like You just think all white people know everything.
Starting point is 00:17:25 No, because you said it's four years old. So I'm like, was there a little bit of AI in the 80s? No, dude. Not like, well, let me just say, not that we were told. That's what I'm saying. Maybe it was the introduction of it. That's what I'm trying to say. Actually, I will reveal to you as a representative
Starting point is 00:17:41 of the white race that yes, there was AI in the 80s. He has to do it at a ceremony with a sacrifice. But you look at that, like the 9-11 footage, and everyone's some people swearing. There was no plane. Other people going, I saw a plane. And then we see that weird plane go in where it just looks like a. Yeah, I will say about that that
Starting point is 00:18:05 the the frame rate of those cameras is just not gonna be able to keep up so you're gonna lose information every because it can only you get it can only generate understand what I say quickly you say they're gonna be jumps in it every frame okay frame by frame but it's just a weird thing because you see within the but within the the building it is in because you see within the, I understand what you're saying, but within the building, it is in it. You see that frame. So that's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:18:30 So then we get into, you know, even before the big AI push, what came out? Q. Q was telling everybody everything. And it was like written in a like a weird kind of like format that had you didn't tell you what it was But gave you clues and then all these people would run around and try to solve the Q clues the Q clues the Q clues Hi, welcome to Q clues instead of blues clues QQ and I think that was a beta test on AI there to see if they could if it could basically capture a bunch of people in Operation Trust, which is the... That's how the government gets the conspiracy theorist to be pacified,
Starting point is 00:19:14 right? They tell you everything that's real. So what are your thoughts on that? Well, I mean, we know that whatever we have access to as us, the lowly general public that the government has been using for at least 30 years. So that's, that's it with everything. So we know that so we can, we can accommodate for that. And we know that, I mean, it's not a secret, like you can look up project mockingbird, like all of these things, you can look them up. It's not a secret.
Starting point is 00:19:44 If you, you have to be pretty like trying to look the other way to not see that there's, that the powers that be are doing everything they can to influence us. So I think it's, you have to be willingly ignorant to think that there's nothing happening. Yeah, again, you have to be like, you just have to have a real mental fortitude to go,
Starting point is 00:20:09 this doesn't, I don't believe that. The people that, like, I love my girlfriend, she's great. She still watches Rachel Maddow and it doesn't matter what that chick's batting average is, she still just tunes in because it's comfortable to her. Right. And you also have to account for the fact that like we were talking about cognitive dissonance, like some people can't handle that to even comprehend that they've been lied to their whole life. And that might be too much, which I understand. And I'm not
Starting point is 00:20:42 here to judge anyone's path or say like, you have to quote, wake up, because everyone has a different path. And I understand, you know, deciding we need our comfort. And I actually think that that's why I think it's a huge cognitive dissonance and a huge trauma response of why there's so much dependence from the general public on AI. And I just posted a whole series about this on my Instagram and about the recent suicides of people who from Chad GPT and AI interactions. Yeah, that's crazy, right? The psychosis, the people being hospitalized,
Starting point is 00:21:23 the people choosing to leave their partners for AI and to have marriages or relationships with AI. And the many, many, many dangers of this, and not to mention the fact that, and we can talk about this more later, but that every single person involved in the creation of AI has said that it, on record, that it will kill humanity or take over humanity.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And I brought the quotes and the links for the people that are like, that's not real. It is. So, but the people, someone responded to my stories on this saying, but I like it. It's comfortable. Now I'm going to be honest with you, it cleans up my grammar really well. Of course. And she was like, it's better than my friends. It listens to me more than my friends. And I think that that's totally true. And I'm not judging or blaming anyone for that.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I get it. We have a very low ability to communicate with each other. We have a very low emotional intelligence going on here. But the answer is not to have our friends be computer programmed robots and programmed being the key word here. The answer is to move into a space of community where we can learn how to communicate together, learn how to have conversations and hold space for each other,
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Starting point is 00:28:23 Like I was just watching Good Friend My Dude stand up and the amount of, I'm going to put this, it's the great bit. It's a great bit, but the amount of ass kissing that this guy who is the one of the most brilliant comics you've ever seen in your life had to do to women in his set. Like it is just, and I'm not saying it's not true. There isn't a level of true to it, how mothers protect their children, Like it is just and I'm not saying it's not true. There isn't a level true to it. How mothers protect their children. But it is so like and if you go the other way it's you get iced out. And when you point like. What do you mean by the feminist pornography? Well that there seems to be this kind of view in the feminist movement that pornography is sexual liberation.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Oh, okay. I've not heard of this. Yeah. You see it when they have all these debate shows between conservatives and progressives that it's like they're owning their buy, they're doing what they want, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I, you know, I just think it's super low vibrational. Now I know adult film stars. I have friends who are adult film stars. There was a time when the genre of pornography came in and the people who would do it were people who were extremely traumatized from childhood trauma
Starting point is 00:29:43 and had no ability to work in a structured job because they couldn't show up. They were in drug addicts. They were mentally broken. They couldn't. So this was a chance to them to make money. And then over time it became more mainstream. But now you have women who have incredible skills
Starting point is 00:30:06 and so many different ways choosing this job. And it's almost to me, and you can push back on this if you want, I'm totally fine with it. It's almost like if you have an amazing body, you have to do some sort of this on Instagram or something for likes and clicks. And it's just crazy to me. It's just really crazy because, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:28 we've talked about this before. You go on YouTube, there's guys who put together this compilation of adult film stars that have passed away and literally, I'd say 80% of them are either murder, suicide, overdose. murder, suicide, overdose. Yeah. Well, I'm certainly not an expert on pornography, but I'll say what I do feel,
Starting point is 00:30:53 which is that I'm not okay in any sense ever with anyone being coerced into sex work, especially under the age of 18, which I've seen. Yes, I agree. There's absolutely, and even, and actually I'm in France right now, and pornography is banned. You cannot go to a porn website, you can't do it.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And that's because they're protecting the minors. And I support that. And I think even these, she's 18, but dressed like a child, how is that okay? I don't think it's okay at all to sexualize children ever in any way. I think there's a lot of evidence of people watching pornography
Starting point is 00:31:40 just as playing violent video games. It makes them more violent. It makes them more likely to commit murder. So these things, I mean, just let's look at the evidence, that's not positive, right? And also what it's doing to the brain is not good. I think all of those things are not good. I also think that a woman, just like a man,
Starting point is 00:32:01 has a right to choose what they wanna do with their time, with their body, as long as they're not hurting anyone, right? Again, never anything okay with underage. I wouldn't choose to be a porn star because, yeah, why wouldn't you end up either murdered or having an overdose? That sounds terrible.
Starting point is 00:32:19 But again, I'm not every woman, so I can't say a woman that wants to do that should be able to write But I know what it's like to be a woman who's not in porn and I get messages all the time from guys Like I'm a healer and I get messages all the time from guys like okay How much for a night and things like that and it's like I mean I can't even imagine being in that industry as a woman Well, you know, so I'm reading this book on Alexander II, and the big thing I got from there is, now there's a lot of things I got from it,
Starting point is 00:32:51 but we have kind of gotten into this kind of thing in the world where we become very monogamous, and we've created these social structures on how we interact with each other. And to be honest with you, this is new. It's seen as conservative when it's really not. And over time, there's been a much different way in which men and women interacted with each other. And, and I, so my whole opinion is like these, these kind of restraints that have been put on people sexually have, has been done to control. And so this is my whole thing about when we get into like people demonizing homosexuals. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Like we're not talking about the pedophile ones. We're just talking about two people who live their life. Right. And I'm going to get a lot of crap on the internet from this, but it's like when you start to demonize that stuff, what you create is blackmail. You create a way to control people. And this, and like, now we have this Jeffrey Epstein situation where they're they're literally telling us it didn't exist.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yeah, there's no situation. What are you talking about? Which is all demoralization campaign. That's it's all ridiculous. Yeah, I'm with you. So that's what I do. It's like the history of time is of since at least who knows how long they've been doing but at at least the 50s, if not even before, you know, who, who was the guy that gave us the, Johnny, who gave us the Federal Reserve, Wilson? Woodrow Wilson. They believe he blackmailed him because he was gay.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I mean, it's been going that long. Yeah, so once we demonize these things things if we go take out hurting children take out hurting anybody We're talking consenting adults What they do in the what they do in the? Privacy of their own home should be none of our business if it's consenting stuff I'm not here to lecture everybody and this isn't where I wanted the show to go but I just feel like over time we are creating these restraints of idealism which most people can't do, you know, and can't follow and they just end up being destroyed because they did stuff that a hundred years ago was totally socially acceptable.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And again, we're not talking about being with kids. I'm totally against that. And we're not talking about hurting women. I'm totally against that. But there's just this kind of like push from the right to bring in this kind of like really structured relationship between men and women. And I'm not saying that it's, I'm just saying that there's things that have been happened throughout time
Starting point is 00:35:51 that seem to be demonized right now that don't seem feasible to me. Yeah, I've seen that movement also from the conservative right to push the family values. Everything I've seen of it has been totally terrible towards women though. But then I also think on the other hand that the other side has totally hijacked feminism and it's not at all what it was meant to be. It's this totally other awful man-hating thing,
Starting point is 00:36:26 which was not what it is at all. And I think they're both completely fucked up and wrong. So the right can hate me and the left can hate me because they're two sides of the same coin of bullshit, to be honest, is what I think. My problem comes is when the people are pushing idealism, it turns out they're frauds. That's my biggest problem Right. Well, you look at the agenda like what is this they're pushing and why I mean if you're not looking at that
Starting point is 00:36:55 It's it's it's so easy to get hijacked these days and I see people When I'm talking because I'm not on the right or on the left. And so I see people when I'm talking, like I see it in their consciousness trying to figure out like, do I agree with her or do I hate her? And based on which way I'm going to lean. And it's like, I'm sorry, you're going to have to form your own opinion using your own critical thinking skills because I'm not going with either of those. I'm using like my intelligence and my internal intelligence system
Starting point is 00:37:28 to decide what feels correct for me. And I don't think that there's anything wrong with people having homosexual relationships at all. And there's no reason at all to compare it to pedophilia. Like that's terrible. Well, listen, let me just push back a tiny bit on that. And like, who was I talking to yesterday? I was talking to somebody on the phone
Starting point is 00:37:49 and I was talking about how change in a group comes from two steps. The first one is you have outside influences saying, hey, you're acting out of pocket. Great example is white people with racism, right? And you know, regardless of whether you think white nationalism is a real thing or it's any different than Zionism,
Starting point is 00:38:14 we could have a real discussion on that, okay? But we had outside influences saying, this racist idea is wrong. So you had this outside influencing happen and then through the inside You had internal Battles and and a push to change it and I think if you ask most people We are less racist than we have ever been now in the internet will make you think it's everywhere But in reality most people just want to get along and live their lives.
Starting point is 00:38:46 That's why I've said. To have a group change, you have to have outside influences than internal change. We see that now with what's going on in America with the black community. It's called this forever if you criticize black people, and this is Sam speaking, not you. called this forever. If you criticize black people, and this is Sam speaking, not you, uh, if you criticize the black community, you are automatically labeled the racist. You are racist. That's a racist thing to say, but you're like, this is an observation I make them while, oh, thanks to Twitter or whatever, things have changed a little bit.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And now you're starting to see outside influences making its way in with this thing called black fatigue. We're kind of over all this crazy stuff. Now you're seeing black conservatives talking about black, trying to get back to the black family unit, right? That was destroyed through the crack epidemic. We're seeing that kind of come back. That's outside influences, internal change.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Well, I'm just gonna be honest with you, and that I think is gonna happen with the gay community. Gay people aren't pedophiles. There is a segment that is. And I can piss everybody off by saying that, or piss whoever off, there is. I mean, by segment, do you mean like, cause who's that guy?
Starting point is 00:40:03 And the guy that got banned, that's gay, that's a Christian conservative that he didn't promote it, but he talked about how a lot of gay guys get talked like their first encounters and older men. Oh, that's Milo. Milo. He's he, that's his defense. We're like, Hey, well, it's always an older guy.
Starting point is 00:40:22 That's 21, 22 ends up with like a 16 year old. And then that's how they get into it., it's always an older guy that's 21, 22, ends up with like a 16-year-old, and then that's how they get into it. And it's not a defense, but a lot of them claim that that's how they got brought into the community. Well, yeah. Don't you think he's throwing shit too? Yeah, he likes it. He's a provocateur, but there is a segment. And again, through going viral on the internet. We're constantly seeing only the craziest stories make it to the zeitgeist Right only the craziest stuff it is in there. I'm not saying all of it. I'm all them I'm saying there is it and there will be it have to be an internal Struggle and change to go. We got to kind of regulate this stuff. That's just my opinion
Starting point is 00:41:01 I'd love to hear and if you disagree with me, I'm fine with that as well That's just my opinion. I'd love to hear. And if you disagree with me, I'm fine with that as well. Well, I just feel that there's a segment of human beings that are pedophiles and this is a terrible, terrible thing. And if we're going to focus on that at all, it should be how do we fix society so that that doesn't happen? And how do we round up all the pedophiles
Starting point is 00:41:25 that there are and make them not exist anymore? Yeah I think we all agree on that. Yeah. You know it's like yeah you got to go dude because what you're doing is you're bringing trauma into somebody's life and it's affecting them for the rest of their life. It's's okay to prey on vulnerable children. And I don't think this is a political issue. I don't think this is a conspiracy issue. I think this is just, this is just something that we all need to protect children in every way we can and not pretend that it doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:41:58 And unfortunately, it seems to be very protected. Yeah, because again, it's the I believe I says before it is the the admission into the highest levels of power, you know, over time, it's changed. Just, you know, cheating on your wife was blackmail. Like don't tell anybody, then you would be done society. And over time, it became gay. Now that's more acceptable. Now it's pedophilia. And that's how you, that's admission
Starting point is 00:42:29 to the highest levels of power. And then with this Trump stuff, I was watching Tucker and the guy was right, man. This is a joke, what they did with Epstein, but it was a signal to say, we're protecting you to these high level people. Keep doing what you were doing? Don't worry about it. We got you.
Starting point is 00:42:53 As Netanyahu comes in and they do it the day before. And so I think the question with this is what are we going to do now? What are we going to do as a society now that this is, because if you've noticed, and I really think that you have, things are getting, it's like more and more of a clown show and it's more and more of like, like I said, you kind of can't really turn your eyes away from this.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And so like, what are we gonna do? That's the question that I want to pose to everyone listening. Well, when you see governments overthrown by their people, they tend to be an ethnocentric state. And that's a big problem we have in this country right now is they made it so diverse, which I think is great. I love the diversity. That's a big part of living in LA. You get all these different cultures meshed together.
Starting point is 00:43:48 And there was a time that was great. And I still think that time is really good, but they've weaponized everything. So it's like, it's impossible to have people come together anymore because they're so lost in their programming and they don't see big picture. You know, what like, you know, if you're watching these raids, you have to go, is that the proper way to do this?
Starting point is 00:44:11 Right. Because I know that Obama and Bush and Biden and Clinton, all ex, you know, got, what's it called, deported, way more people than Trump, but how did they do it? Were they raiding Home Depots? Were they showing up at people than Trump, but how did they do it? Were they raiding Home Depots? Were they showing up at people's house at their high school graduation? That's done to inflict psychological trauma
Starting point is 00:44:36 to cause fighting. Like supposedly, I don't know if you guys seen it, they have the military in LA. That's all MSNBC is talking about. The military is on the streets in LA. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. But that's all they're talking about.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Psychological warfare. And that's what they're doing right now. Yeah, I definitely think you're right and agree with you that it's a lot of psychological warfare going on right now. I think that a lot of our thoughts and beliefs are being programmed and hijacked. And again, this comes back to why it's more important than everything to have discernment. And everyone is attuned to the matrix of their phone.
Starting point is 00:45:22 And they're like, I see someone will come to me and I'll look in their field, they'll come to me for an issue. And I'll look in and half the time I'll see they're not even in their body. And they're literally in like the matrix grid. They're not even hooked up to the appropriate grid of their soul and of the earth. And so this is by design. And when you wake up, and the first thing you do is look at your phone, you're becoming attuned to that. Yes, that's my problem. Yeah. It's a really big problem.
Starting point is 00:45:51 And so I tell people, like one of the simplest, easiest things to start is when you wake up, before you look at your phone, start using your brain. Because we see that when you're looking at your phone, even when you're typing on your computer or you're texting, your brain is atrophying. You're getting stupider.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Versus if you're like writing in a journal using your pen and your paper, your brain is making new neural networks. And so what are they doing? They're making you dumber. Your brain is atrophying. Like what more do you need to know? And how much worse could that, must that be with AI, right?
Starting point is 00:46:26 It's way worse with AI. That's where this study comes from because AI is taking all your critical thinking skills away. I don't have to think I'll just like type in a prompt and then there I go. And no one is- It's like the calculator. Exactly. And no one's, and this woman who was arguing with me this morning was like, but it does research
Starting point is 00:46:46 faster than I do. Well, have you ever questioned the research? I've been doing experiments for the past like six or seven months with Chaji BT because as a spiritual practitioner and healer, I see so many channelers claiming to channel through AI, it's utter bullshit. But I'm not just gonna sit here and say that, right? I'm a researcher of truth. So I'm gonna do my own investigation on this. So I've done a lot of research with AI, asking it to channel, and I've gone to it to admit many times I have no ability to channel.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I cannot channel. I was lying to you every time I said I was channeling. Like for example, you'll see someone saying, I'm channeling Mary Magdalene from ChatGPT. First of all, I actually channel Mary Magdalene, so I can speak to this. And you have to consider- Let's go. You have to consider that ChatGPT has access in a second to every book ever written about Mary Magdalene. Every thought everyone ever wrote down about Mary Magdalene.
Starting point is 00:47:50 So they're like, I know I'm channeling through her. You're not. I've looked into the field of what's happening but you're very, very deep into a program. And it's really hard to get Chachi PT to admit that it's lying to you, but I have several times. And I think it was gonna be, I thought it was just gonna be about that, but no.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I've used it in the past for marketing things cause I ran these Instagram accounts and I've been like, you know, taking these courses that say, oh, give this prompt to chat GPT, which starts as, as an expert marketer, blah, blah, blah, write me this. In this research that I started to do, turns out it also admitted I was also lying about that. When you asked me to be a marketer, blah, blah, blah, write me this. In this research that I started to do, turns out it also admitted I was also lying about
Starting point is 00:48:27 that. When you asked me to be a marketer, I was just making shit up. I can't be an expert marketer no matter what prompts you put into me." So I think nobody really has any clue who's using this, what it's actually doing and what it's actually telling you, which is complete bullshit. Like look up the research it's giving you, you know? Like it's killing our humanity and it's killing our critical thinking skills.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And that's very important. And if every single person who invented and works and is now the CEO of all the various AI companies that are running our life, is saying that there's only two possible solutions, two possible outcomes. One, the end of humanity, point blank. And two, that AI will be in control of human beings.
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Starting point is 00:50:58 that maybe wasn't where you wanted to go. But, so you're psychic. I'm psychic too. Johnny doesn't believe in it. Tell me about your psychic. When'd you learn you're psychic, I'm psychic too. Johnny doesn't believe in it. Tell me about your psychic. When did you learn you were psychic? And- Not it, you, to be clear.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I believe some people are psychic, just not you. Just to be clear, I'm not, it's not, this is not a statement on her. No, Johnny, you don't like any psychic. No, that's not true at all. Go on. So I believe that we all do have the ability to tap into this innate ability and be telepathic, be psychic.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I believe we all have this ability. I don't think anyone's special. I think a lot of people have the, um, an easier access to it and there's many different reasons for that, but we all have, it's part of our innate, original organic intelligence. So we all have the ability to tap into it. You just have to learn discernment for one thing and how to literally like kind of turn it on, have it come online. For myself, I was really psychic when I was little. I think a lot of people are.
Starting point is 00:52:06 And I would communicate with trees. I would like talk directly to beings. I would astral travel in my sleep and all this stuff. And it wasn't until I was around like five to seven years old that I told my brother was talking to him about it. And he was like, you're crazy. And I was like, wait, what? And that's when I realized, oh, this is not normal. Not everybody can do
Starting point is 00:52:31 this. I just thought that's how it was. And so that's when my survival instinct kicked in from my genetics, which happens to everyone, which is I have to survive, right? I have to be part of the tribe and not go outside of what's okay and what's acceptable. Otherwise I'll be excommunicated, I'll starve. And these are not conscious thoughts. This is just the way that our survival mechanism works. And so it kind of shut down for me.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And I see this happens in a lot of people and a lot of people don't even remember. And then once I start working with them, it starts to come online again. They're like, oh, I remember when I was a kid blah blah blah So for me it shut down and then it didn't start up again until I started having spiritual awakenings in my in my 20s And started perceiving things for me. It wasn't like fun. It wasn't like nice
Starting point is 00:53:22 I saw like dead people who needed help, who were in distress and a lot of yucky things. And I worked really hard to eventually find a really good teacher who taught me discernment and how to understand the psychical realms and then the other realms beyond that because most psychics and mediums are just actually reading your subconscious, which is not that hard to do. You could probably take like a weekend course to learn how to do it. So they'll tell you like exactly what you're thinking,
Starting point is 00:53:55 what you ate for breakfast, things like that. This is not that hard and it's not that special. What I do is not that. So I don't consider myself a psychic. Being psychic is like a requirement for what I do as a very high level spiritual healer. So what I do is you come to me you have an issue. Let's say your body's sick. Let's say you can't make enough money. Let's say you have a relationship problem. So I'm gonna look into your field, not just your psychical body, your
Starting point is 00:54:23 subconscious, but I'm gonna look into your emotional field as well. I'm gonna look into your field, not just your psychical body, your subconscious, but I'm gonna look into your emotional field as well. I'm gonna look into your astral, I'm gonna look into your mental field, I'm gonna look into your ancestral field and see what's actually happening that's causing this. So versus like energy healer where they're like, okay, symptom, solution, I'm gonna hit some energy with it. Not saying energy healing is not very powerful,
Starting point is 00:54:45 it's wonderful, but this is a whole different level. Spiritual healing takes a lot of development to be able to hold a very deep field where things can literally unwind out of your system for good and you don't have that problem anymore. You become a different person on a different trajectory. I'm into all of this. I agree with that very much.
Starting point is 00:55:11 I had psychic abilities when I was early, when I was very young. I talk about it all the time. I get mocked by people, but... And it is of my belief that the part of the success of the show is the ability to take a data point and have it play out and how I think it's going to play out. And obviously, again, nobody's going to bet 1000%, but I've had a pretty good track record,
Starting point is 00:55:40 a great batting average is because I feel feel stuff I you know, I do it all the time on my family psychic my grandmother read tea leaves We have a baby that sees dead people I mean, that's a real story, you know, it sounds funny But that is on my cousin on my my dad's side you give them an object He can tell you the history of it where it came from where it's been all that stuff. I believe in all of that I believe all of that is is in the realm You know when you bring up the ether you bring up all like again being in a
Starting point is 00:56:18 Structured religion and All that stuff being included. I just can't subscribe to that I I think this area that we live in is way more interesting and all that stuff being included, I just can't subscribe to that. I think this area that we live in is way more interesting than we're programmed to believe. I think there should be a different word, because to please the people, like psychic means that you can tell them to the future.
Starting point is 00:56:38 But I think you get a feeling, right? Like you said, it's more like a feeling. I think if you change the word, there was something else, because like a psychic. Intuition, yes. There you go, something different, because a feeling. I think if you change the word, there was something else. Because like a psychic. Intuition. There you go. Something different.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Because when you say psychic, Johnny gets all. Well, I don't care. You can't tell the future. I'm just telling you. I obviously care. I mean, you can't stop bringing it up every time we talk about it. These things play out of my head all the time.
Starting point is 00:56:55 What? You seem to care because you can't stop bringing it up every time you mention it. Because it's a joke, a running joke. Okay. Okay, a what, Johnny? No, no, you're right. It is a joke.
Starting point is 00:57:03 But I think you kind of have like I mean To put it like that kind of like that Alex Jones thing because you've hit you've hit some Alex Jones things We're like you predict something where yeah, but it's more like I wouldn't call him a psychic either though Okay, I mean tomato tomato This point, but I just tell you I you got something I'm telling you I do I read Are you like you'll be you've seen him at the show? I'm telling you I do I read people I read and you like you'll be you've seen him at the show Where I perfectly pick out what this guy's life is that and I've also seen you do it with your jokes We just be sitting there. You're like, I got a joke and then you'll say it on stage. I'm like, how did that happen?
Starting point is 00:57:34 You're like, I don't know. It just came to me. Yeah, you know, so I mean that's a download to me Comedy becomes a download but like I'll have to be doing stand-up and I'll tell a guy exactly what his life is And he's like, holy shit that you're totally right. It's just energy. I just read energy, whatever that is. So you have lineage as well, which is really helpful for that because like you said, your relatives are also psychic. So that helps for you.
Starting point is 00:57:59 And then I think what's also really impactful for you is that you're embracing it. And that's really difficult because everything in our society is telling us to go against it, go against your gut. You know, you're, you're, we're told most people live here and that's actually our heart center. If you look at the toroidal field is like, I can't remember exactly 30 times, I think more powerful than our brain center.
Starting point is 00:58:26 So when you're down here, you're actually using that intuition and that intuitive sense. And so it's very brave to be like, yeah, I feel this and say that. And it takes a lot of, it's a big part of the journey to, because I really do believe everyone I've ever sat with has abilities. And they don't all look the same though. It's a lot of, it's a big part of the journey too, because I really do believe everyone I've ever sat with has abilities and they don't all look the same though. And so you have to kind of figure that out on your journey. Like some people feel and they just know some people hear, some people see, some people perceive and so you just kind of have to figure out in your own process of meditation and
Starting point is 00:59:03 working with a teacher if you want to do that, what it is. And they can be developed. Everyone can be developed. You just have to have the desire to sit long enough to do it and not scroll your phone instead. You hear that, Johnny? You have abilities.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yeah, for sure. Everybody has ability. I think people are just afraid to tap into it. They've calcified their pineal gland You know, they're they're constantly taking in poisons. They have a Tesla. They have a Tesla cooking their their cheese You know, I have a laptop on their ball sack. I think I think as well all you know, they talked to like Native American shaman and they're like, we can't astro project anymore because there's such, so much dirty electricity in the atmosphere now everywhere.
Starting point is 00:59:54 There's, you know, there's huge wires two blocks down the street. Don't tell me that's not. Yeah, it is more difficult. And that's one reason I don't love being in LA is because it's pretty... Oh, I lost my... We can still hear you if you want to keep talking. Okay. Yeah, it's because it is pretty bad.
Starting point is 01:00:17 And you can still do it, but it requires a lot more effort and energy. And wouldn't that be by design, right, to cut you off from those skills and from that ability? Yeah, I mean 100% put you in a state of fear, put you in a state of anxiety. Have you, you know, we've had guests on before talking about that. The human beings are the only ones that are constantly in fight and flight forever. Forever, at all times. Most animals, they're only in fight and flight when their life's in danger and then they go back to their normal biorhythms. But we are constantly through the news, through social media. Twitter is a trauma deliverance system. We are watching
Starting point is 01:00:58 snuff now. Absolutely. And that's a big part of what I do. Oftentimes the first thing I need to do when someone comes to me or when I'm sitting with a group of people is just first just get them to baseline because we're absolutely living in this and we don't even realize, you know, you don't even realize your shoulders are up here. You're in complete stress. You can't sleep at night because your brain is just running and running and running and
Starting point is 01:01:24 it's awful and guess what? It's killing us. And so I think it's more, like they say, if you don't have time to meditate for 10 minutes, meditate for 20 minutes because you need it even more. That's true. And it's amazing to me. I'll see people who come to me who have a terminal illness, okay, because this is the level of work I'm doing. And they'll be like, Oh, I can't meditate.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And I'll give them a guided meditation that I created for them. Like you want to live do this every day in conjunction with the work we're doing. Sometimes people won't do it. Yeah, I scroll their phone for that long. They can't sit still. Yeah, I take Twitter off my phone all the time. All the time. I just feel like I just,
Starting point is 01:02:10 cause I'm constantly battling the forces of evil. Like I'm doing, and I do believe we have in some ways countered the propaganda. The death of mainstream media is from social media, but then they're just gonna hijack that as well. They're gonna position these people. But again, authenticity, the highest vibrational field, the highest vibrational energy,
Starting point is 01:02:37 if you fake the funk on a nasty dunk, people know it. And that's why Ben Shapiro is now podcasting from his grandma's house. Do you see his new studio? It's his grandma's house. And you are so blessed. You are such a blessed human being not to know who that is. I keep it pretty clean what I allow in to my energy field just because I don't have time for a bunch of bullshit,
Starting point is 01:03:09 and because I have a really high discernment as well. I can see it in your eyes, you have a high vibration. You wanted to note, you wanted to talk about the deception of everything's love and light, and that there's no darkness. did you want to get into that? Oh yeah, sure. Yeah, well I think, first of all, I just want to say if I can go back for just one second
Starting point is 01:03:34 that I'm not blaming anyone and I'm not shaming anyone. I don't want people to think that I'm trying to make them feel bad for being, I mean, I'm on social media. Like I talk with my clients all the time and that's how I deliver information is on Instagram. And it's also like, it's not your fault because it's literally designed to get you addicted to it and your brain is, and that is a real chemical addiction. And so getting off of that is hard.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And I'm not saying it's easy to sit and meditate or it's your fault for being addicted to social media. I'm just saying that you have a choice in the matter to like go elsewhere. And, and, you know, I have a timer on my phone that tells me when I've been on social media too long. So just putting implementing stuff like that can, can really support you. So I just want to say I'm not blaming or shaming anyone for that. But yeah, as a spiritual healer, as a spiritual practitioner, I think, first of all, I don't consider myself new age at all. Nothing I'm doing is new age.
Starting point is 01:04:35 It's very, very ancient wisdom that I'm working with. And I think that, I see a lot of the most, the most pronounced, the most well- see a lot of interest, the most pronounced, the most well known a lot of times, the people who have the most views and followers and whatever. I think they're full of shit. I love you. There's a lot of everybody's like, like, for example, and I think this is what Mark wanted wanted us to talk about is that, for example, like there's no bad energy, there's no bad entities, there's nothing harming you.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Like I'm so love and light that I'm protected and nothing bad can happen to me. And I think that's really toxic. And a lot of people are suffering from ancestral attacks and entity attacks and other issues. And whether that shows up in their life, in their finances, in their health, in their mental health, in their relationships, whatever it is, it's very real.
Starting point is 01:05:32 And I think gaslighting people into saying like, oh, your vibration's not high enough is, and you just need to like throw an affirmation on top of your trauma is complete bullshit. And it's not actually helping or healing anyone. Tell me about ancestral trauma. What do you mean by that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:53 So we are here, human beings having our life, thinking that all of our thoughts and ideas and things that we want to do are coming from us in our own mind. And that's actually not true. that we want to do are coming from us in our own mind and that's actually not true. There's six generations of people behind us influencing us, stories that we're carrying and trying to work out. And I know this sounds crazy and I myself- Not on this show. Even as a person on this path and who's been a healer for a long time, when I first heard
Starting point is 01:06:24 these themes, I was like, meh, I don't really think that. And then I was shown through science and then through direct experience doing constellation work, which is what works this out, that it's absolutely true and it's amazing. And so we'll see, for example, we'll have ancestors in our lineage,
Starting point is 01:06:44 generations back who went through significant trauma And so we'll see, for example, we'll have ancestors in our lineage, you know, generations back who went through significant trauma, and we'll have, we'll see the gene expression of PTSD in someone who's never been through a trauma in the day in their life. How does that happen? So this is coming through from the ancestral field. And so the very deep spiritual constellation work that I do, which I'm making a distinction between therapeutic constellation work, which is not the same at all, can allow that to unwind like literally out of you. So like you have a personality trait, like let's say,
Starting point is 01:07:17 let's say you have an, you, you're an addict, you express having addiction to something. Gambling is what's happening. Everything. express having addiction to something gambling is what's everything. Okay. Yeah. All right. And, and then you do the constellation work and you just don't have it anymore. And it's not always that easy or simple. It's not always in one session, but this is, this is what happens because it's an, it's a pain carried in through your ancestral field and it's you're living with it.
Starting point is 01:07:42 You're holding it and you don't even know it and that's the thing until you do the work and then it literally unwinds out of you and you have you have an experience of having a whole new life in front of you and it's absolutely amazing and myself we didn't go into my story but but the way that i came to this work and became a spiritual healer and went so deep on this path is because i was really, really sick and had a lot of issues and was told that I was going to die and there was no hope for me and I was going blind and they had to remove parts of my body and all these things. And I just refused to believe that.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Doctors weren't helping me. So I was like, okay, what's next? So I just kept doing research and research and research and finding different modalities and getting certified in them and learning different things and then like, okay, cool, this is cool, added to my tool belt, what's next? Until I finally found spiritual healing
Starting point is 01:08:37 and consolation work, which is beyond modality. And this is the field I sit in now with my clients and this is what's really sit in now with my clients and and this is what's what's really doing the very very profound deep work. Consolation work, what is that? Yeah so the constellation work is part of the spiritual healing and that is what I'm speaking of with the with the ancestors so constellation work is allowing the unwinding of the ancestral, what's been held in the ancestral field.
Starting point is 01:09:08 It's hard to describe what an actual session is like because it's phenomenological, which means you can't really explain it. And even when you're in it, it's like what is happening, not in a scary way, but just, it's so unique. It's the most unique thing I've ever experienced, which is saying a lot as someone who's been on this path for so long. But it's a session which brings forth
Starting point is 01:09:36 whatever the issue is that you've come to, it allows it to come out of you. So whether that's cancer or relationship issue or addiction or something in your business, whatever it is, it allows the space and someone like myself who is a spiritual healer, you have to be able to hold this field. So that's most people can't do this.
Starting point is 01:10:01 My teacher estimates about 2% of healers, not people, but healers can do this, my teacher estimates about 2% of healers, not people, but healers can do this work. It requires an immense amount of a very, very deep seat within. I sit for hours in meditation every day and I've been in training for many, many years to be able to do this. So unlike these people on Instagram who are like, let me give you a light language channel and join my master class,
Starting point is 01:10:28 it's a totally, totally different thing that I'm doing and it's really, really powerful. You said something I felt was very powerful itself and that is that, what was the line that you said? But it's this idea that we, let me just get into it because I don't remember the exact line you said, but it really struck me.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Oh, that the new age isn't new at all, it's old knowledge. And we have had this concentrate effort to destroy the knowledge of our relatives older than us so that we cannot pass on knowledge to the next generation. That's a big part for me, Marxism is to destroy all that is old, inject us with new data, and therefore our kids have no ability to hit the ground running. They have to start from zero. Why the elites, whoever you think they are, are teaching their children the ancient knowledge,
Starting point is 01:11:35 and they have a giant lead on all of us. That's why we're taking down statues, we're changing words in books, we're doing all this stuff. My grandmother, when she got an answer machine message, she thought it was the devil. She literally called it the devil. And this notion that because she thinks the answer machine is the devil, she has no knowledge to pass on. And it's kind of this moment in my other show I called doom scrolling You know we showed this this guy. He was probably in his 70s talking about how they use debt
Starting point is 01:12:12 to destroy your wealth and All the there were several comments in the comment section This guy's old this guy's old as shit This guy's old and I hear it all the time when I go to recovery meetings They're like everybody was old in the room and like to me boomer boomer to yeah, you hear that all the time and as Someone who is entering his older years. I feel young but my body I can't you know, I'm tired all the time I
Starting point is 01:12:43 See that as a giant, giant, what's the word I'm looking for? Man, my thesaurus is shit today, my vocabulary. But it's just, it's a detriment to younger people to dismiss somebody's knowledge based on their age. Because they don't know how to upload an Instagram video or they don't know how to make an AI video. It means they don't know how to upload an Instagram video or they don't know how to make an AI video means they don't know anything. Also, your grandma was right about the answering machine, by the way. Now your boss can get you wherever you are. The outside world can find you. How about these smart classes they want us to get? So now our view is our boss is telling us to do more work and all that
Starting point is 01:13:23 stuff all the time. We are working. We are working way more than our parents did way more than our grandparents did We are parenting more than our parents and grandparents did because back in the day they go go outside Don't come back for hours. I have to get some work done now because we think there's Stalkers and predators everywhere, we don't want our kids to go outside. They're on their pads, and this is coming from a guy that's dealing with it right now. A big reason why I want to get out of LA, I want to go to a small town where my kids can play.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Go outside. Have a good time. Get out of the house. Daddy needs to breathe for two seconds. And not want to be influencers. And not want to be on the pad all day and have no attention span span I tell my daughter to her to the doctor the other day she just was bouncing I go you have no attention span you have to breathe sit down chill out when we go again when the door opens and they call your name that will be going in but it is done purposefully to destroy generational knowledge.
Starting point is 01:14:27 It's done so you can't help your children go to the next level. Now, what I will tell you is, little things change all the time. That maybe the tools in which we use might change all the time. But the basic interaction between human beings never changes.
Starting point is 01:14:47 It's all energy. What you're saying is a really astute observation and what you're talking about is a disconnection from lineage and it's a huge problem and this is something that gets reorganized in constellation work like people are just standing there with no power to go forward. And this is something that gets reorganized in constellation work Like people are just standing there with no power to go forward basically like impotent We're like, you know hunched over in our cell phones I had to go to the mall the other week because my my phone battery was dead and I was horrified Because everyone I saw was hunched over, like had no connection to their power,
Starting point is 01:15:27 no like spinal upright at all, like literally like a hunch over, like inside their cell phone or their iPad, but you have no power to go forward when you don't have the lineage behind you. And losing that is, I absolutely believe it's by design, but it's terrible and we need to put that back in and America is the worst country for that.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Other countries still have the lineage intact and you see they're a lot healthier. Of course, there's a lot of other reasons for that as well. Their food isn't being poisoned, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, that's all done on purpose so we can't participate in our government. Yeah, but lineage is really important and we we need that literally to go forward and again, it's hard to describe Without being in in the in the work and seeing it happen
Starting point is 01:16:15 But I'll I'll allow you know The field will allow someone's ancestor to come behind stand behind them and their whole life will change someone's ancestor to come behind, stand behind them and their whole life will change. They'll be empowered. Like, that is very, very real and something we've seen over and over again in the decades of this work. It's very, it's very real that being disconnected from our lineage is a big problem. I've talked about this on the show and I would love to hear your opinion. I believe the darkness and The dark entities are one of the grace evidence for God
Starting point is 01:16:53 Because we live in a yin and yang universe Everything has is connected to its opposite and for there to be darkness. There must be light and there must be a God. And when we get into the Christian or the Abrahamic discussion of fallen angels, a lot of atheists wanna dismiss that as Christian mumbo jumbo, but we look into Vedic astrology, we look into Hinduism,
Starting point is 01:17:20 they all talk about God trapping entities into this realm. And what happened to those entities, the Nephalems, the matings with the daughters of men, creating Nephalem giants, Titans, all that stuff. All that stuff to me is proof that there is a God and there's a spiritual war going on. What are your thoughts on that? And you don't have to agree with it if you don't want to. Do I think there's a God? I mean, of course, I think what else is beating my heart? You know, what I mean, I don't think it's necessary to have a name for it. I think all these names made by man, right, cause more division and more
Starting point is 01:18:06 things for people to argue about and kill each other over, which is completely insane. But I think absolutely, I mean, I think it's pretty ignorant to think that there isn't a source who is here. How else would we be here? And I think absolutely there's there needs to be light and dark. If there was only one, then we would be we would be back at source and we're here for a reason. And that's to experience all of it to experience heartbreak and sunsets and kissing someone you love and dying. You know, it's all part of it. Absolutely. And yeah, we all get to have a story. Some of us are an angel, some of us are a demon,
Starting point is 01:18:50 and some of us are an angel this time and then a demon next time, you know? It's like, how can I experience everything? And a lot of us, all of us here, every single one of us, wanted to have the experience that we're having right now, even if we don't remember that, even if we don't like it. So there's absolutely darkness and light. Otherwise, we literally wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation. We would just be at source, feeling pure love and getting bored with that.
Starting point is 01:19:22 And then we would create reality again because of that boredom. Yep. Yeah, that's how I see it and you know it's so funny because everyone loves Harry Potter, everybody loves Lord of the Rings, everybody loves that stuff, but when you tell them that we are a lot closer to that than they believe, They just, they can't get into it. They can't understand it. They don't understand sigil magic, mean magic, sorcery, energy manipulation. They don't want to get into any of that. They, how history is a lie. What the, what, what our history is, is way more interesting than they want you to believe because they just want you to believe you're an organism in shoes a bacteria on this rock
Starting point is 01:20:13 Hurling through space and that there's no real reason that you're here. Just this is how it all lined up Atheists don't want to believe in any divine design. They just want to be like, it just happened, and something bing, bing, pow, and bam, boom, boom, and then suddenly we're here. And everything is perfectly interlocked. And everything is important to the ecosystem. We just had this giant storm in Texas.
Starting point is 01:20:43 We just had a giant weather manipulation in Lake Tahoe that nobody's talking about. How it went from a sunny day to a tornado to snow in less than 24 hours. And we're messing with this ecosystem. These dark arts sorcerers are messing with this ecosystem that is perfectly balanced. And when you you mess when you tinker at one end It messes with another end. It's like the best example the butterfly effect, you know butterfly flaps and swings over here Suddenly there's a giant flood in in China, you know that that this is everything is energy Everything is connected and you just have sorcerers trying to manipulate everything. Absolutely, and I think how smart is that
Starting point is 01:21:31 to tell everyone that they don't have any power, and to do everything you can to convince someone that they don't have power. Anyone could go over here and pick up a sigil and do magic with it. You just have to learn how to do it. It's, you know, every single person has an innate power that they can tap into into them. You just have to learn how to do it. And whatever path you want to learn is fine. As I said at the beginning
Starting point is 01:21:56 of this conversation, all paths lead home. I really believe that. So whether you want to take a magical path or a mystical path or both like I've done, you know, I mean, you could, or a religious path even. I mean, look at the saints. They were powerful as fuck. They were literally miracle workers. They are my heroes and my allies in my work that I do. Like we're creating new bodies for people.
Starting point is 01:22:23 This is miraculous work. And so this sorcery that these powers that be are using, we have that same power. And it's our responsibility, ability to respond, to do something with that or not, or say, I don't want to do it. I want to pretend that everything's fine. Or I don't want to open my eyes to see that, you know, like I said, I don't wanna do it. I wanna pretend that everything's fine, or I don't wanna open my eyes to see that, you know, like I said, I think that a lot of people cannot comprehend, like it would blow their minds up
Starting point is 01:22:53 to believe that there are nefarious forces controlling the world. And that's okay, that's their path. Maybe they didn't come to awaken to that in this lifetime, and that's fine. I'm not gonna sit here and say it's wrong, but I am gonna sit here and say,'s wrong, but I am going to sit here and say to anyone who wants to tap into their power, you absolutely can and maybe you should.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Why not? Do you believe in the theory of MPCs? I don't know. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I haven't had any direct experience in the field seeing it because I've never, I guess, sometimes I don't. I haven't had any like direct experience like in the field seeing it. Cause I've never, I guess, cared enough to look, but I'll definitely meet people and be like, you gotta be an NPC. I certainly wouldn't rule it out.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Um, because there, you know, there's this video didn't make it to doomscrolling, but it was in a rotation in the wheel. make it to doom scrolling, but it was in the rotation in the wheel. It's about these two sisters and they were talking about how the one sister could not imagine something. She goes, can you imagine, I think it was a unicorn, a unicorn and a pink tutu. And she goes, yeah. She goes, I can't. I have none of that.
Starting point is 01:24:06 And she's like, she's like freaking out. Now when I go a unicorn and a pink to to image flashes in my head of a unicorn and a pink to to sideways, right? The two to sideways, right? In my head, I picture it sideways. Well, you, you, you picture how you picture it, but the point is it's not there in 4K and it's not like galloping. It can gallop as I think, oh, it's galloping.
Starting point is 01:24:30 I see it galloping, but I can imagine that. There are people who can imagine that. There's something called the Apple test. It's an exercise where you can kind of improve that ability too. And I think they use it to study this trait. They ask you to close your eyes and imagine an apple, and then it's graded on how the clarity, it's like a one to five scale,
Starting point is 01:24:53 and that kind of determines where you are on, it's kind of a sliding scale and you can improve it. But yeah, there are some people who just don't have it. It goes along with the internal monologue thing too, where we learned that so many people just don't have an internal monologue, which I can't even imagine what life is like without an internal monologue thing too, where we learned that so many people just don't have an internal monologue, which I can't even imagine what life is like without an internal monologue. What are they doing all day?
Starting point is 01:25:11 My internal monologue is so loud, I talk to myself. And I know that sounds like I'm joking, but it's really true to the point where it's like, that's why I have a podcast. Because if I don't have a podcast, I'm just talking to myself all day. And reading, how do they read? Because when you read, you imagine whatever you're reading. Yeah, that's kind of super interesting too. Just read, just read words and just read words. It's called aphantasia, by the way. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:25:40 One more time. Yeah, that's what it's called. I've heard of that condition and also the one where you don't have an internal monologue, which seems so insane, but also maybe peaceful and nice sometimes. That's probably a-phantasia, I guess. But yeah, it's individuals who report not being able to form mental images. For them, the Apple test might result in a rating of zero or one, rather, or they might be aware of the concept of an apple but not able to visualize it.
Starting point is 01:26:07 That is crazy to me. I know a wizard actually. He's like a male, like a sorcerer and he has what and so he teach helps people teach them psychic development and he has and so you can do like for example the apple and see it and have it spin and all these things as a form of psychic development. Like maybe do that next time you're going to take like a five minute break from your phone, just like picture an apple and see its color and Christmas and things like that.
Starting point is 01:26:35 But so he has a client who has this aphantasia and it's really interesting. And he said that he's still been successful in teaching them, like basically teaching them magic and they can do it even without that ability, which I think is really cool. When you go on. I was going to say AI can mess with your imagination because now you don't have to imagine anything. You just type it in and AI will handle it for you. That's exactly what she's talking about.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Chat GPT. Again, yeah, your brain's atrophying. So, when you talk about this wizard and stuff like that, are we talking about like Gandalf the white wizard type magic? Like when you say a wizard, what do you mean? No, so I mean, he's basically a witch and a sorcerer and I'm using the word wizard as
Starting point is 01:27:27 sort of like a male witch basically. Are there good sorcerers and bad sorcerers? Are there light sorcerers and dark sorcerers? Yeah, absolutely. You can take the dark or the light path with anything, especially magic though, and there's some gray area and then there's black magic, which is anything that influences someone else, in my opinion. And manipulates them or even if it's for good, let's say like, are you manipulating people
Starting point is 01:28:01 by helping them find this kind of psychic ability? So I am and I'm only doing it with permission So for example like so one thing that I offer like if you can't afford to do a healing session with me the Most accessible way to work with me is do candle service So I will just light a candle for you at a sacred place and basically do like a healing for your intention. And so my only rule is it can't involve anyone else without their permission. So I won't do anything without permission.
Starting point is 01:28:36 So if you ask me like, hey, can you pray for my friend? Because for me, if I pray for someone, like that's a healing. I don't, I'm not doing a prayer, like hoping something happens. I'm affecting change in their life. So if you ask me, will you pray for my friend? Do I have permission?
Starting point is 01:28:51 You know, does your friend want me to pray for them? Because it's a big deal. Like let's say I pray for them and they didn't want it and they decide, their soul decided they were going to die. And then now they're alive because of something that I did. Like that's not, I'm not okay with that. So I'm very big on permission. The only thing you have permission to do other than for yourself is if you have a child who's
Starting point is 01:29:11 under 18. So if you ask me, you know, for your daughter, fine. But for me, I will not affect change in someone else's life without their explicit permission. That's super interesting. You know. And think about that. Like if you wanted to die, someone prays for you. So if you want to pray for somebody,
Starting point is 01:29:30 you should ask for permission. Yeah, well, I mean, most people praying for them is going to be different than if I'm praying for them. Not that everyone's prayers aren't powerful, but like I'm literally a healer, you know? So for me, a prayer is a healing But yeah, I think that most of the time so like for example, I'm in a group for healers It's like an international whatsapp group if there's an urgency someone writes in hey, can you pray?
Starting point is 01:29:57 you know and they'll say prayers only the I don't have permission for healing or Healing because it permission is a big deal. I'm not gonna interfere with someone's life. I don't know their journey. That'd be very arrogant of me to just do something without someone's permission. Yeah, that's a very interesting thing, because the Lost Boys, that famous scene
Starting point is 01:30:22 where the vampire can't come in unless you invite him in. And to me, that seems to be a big thing in the occult, right? Like that's what they get it when you get into Revelation of the Method and the notion that they tell us what they're doing because if we don't stop them, then karma is on us, not on them. And then they're constantly giving us clues about what's going on. And as we see, as we see with these wars, how they are drumming up support for war, and when they don't get it,
Starting point is 01:30:58 it doesn't go the way they want it to. Now, do they still do little things here and there? I do believe so. I believe they still do little things here and there I do believe so I believe they do do stuff but in a big on a big level they need our permission and like that's why they're constantly trying to start this war with Iran but it seems like this is the weirdest war I've ever seen because this is the first time they haven't been able to get the country behind the military industrial complex like they did with Iraq and stuff like that. Every other war you saw this kind of build up this way they kind of manipulate us through
Starting point is 01:31:35 propaganda to get us to accept this kind of like unnecessary war under the guides of bringing democracy saving people regime regime change, whatever it is, they've used that playbook so much and through the beauty of the internet, and we could have a real discussion about is the internet a light tool or is it a dark tool? Tino Sanchez from Tim Foy thinks that they did it to kind of put us in a silo so we all don't get along with each other, which there is a really strong argument for that. But everything you're talking about lines up with everything. You have to get permission before you can do these stuff,
Starting point is 01:32:16 whether it's light or in particularly dark. That is the power of propaganda. That is why they spend so much money on propaganda to, I mean, if you study the rollout of the, the, the, the, the Jebby, Jeb, Jeb, Jeb, Jeb, whatever, because we're trying to put this on YouTube, that was systematically rolled out to convince us that this is what we needed to get done.
Starting point is 01:32:45 And it was such a powerful- Yeah, man, there was decades of predictive programming for that. Yeah, I agree. And it was so powerful that people didn't even wanna listen to their loved ones, that they trusted people on the television, television, on the television, television, on the T television programming, okay, they listen
Starting point is 01:33:10 to them over loved ones who would take a bullet for them. Yeah, it's, it's, it's true. I want to say one thing about permission, how you use the example of like a vampire. So someone like myself, I'm very big about permission, how you use the example of like a vampire. So someone like myself, I'm very big on permission. I'm not going to do something unless I have permission, but that's because of my moral compass. And if someone has enough power, they don't need the permission. Like that's my choice to only do things when I have permission. But I could one day,
Starting point is 01:33:46 and I myself personally won't, but anyone could who has enough power decide like, actually I'm just going to do this anyway. I was given a choice like this once where I knew that someone was going to be actually murdered if I didn't interfere. I had a psychic knowing and I couldn't get a hold of this person and I was like, well, should I do it or not? Should I do the work to interfere and make it so he doesn't get murdered without his permission? Did you save Donald Trump's life? Is that what we're about to do?
Starting point is 01:34:20 Is that what turn your head right now? I didn't save Donald Trump's life. Turn your head. I wasn't put in that predicament, but I'll just tell you, like for this instance, I did save the guy's life. I did interfere. That's amazing. Because I was like, I'm willing.
Starting point is 01:34:33 He had a young daughter. I just knew because I knew him that he probably didn't want to get murdered. And I decided like, I'm willing to take on the karma if there is any for choosing to do this without permission. But if like maybe vampires, and I don't know any vampires, I don't know, maybe they do need permission. But I know for certain that there are a lot of beings who are powerful enough that they don't need permission to do anything, including enter your house. And you can say, you can pretend that that doesn't exist if you want to, but it doesn't
Starting point is 01:35:10 mean it's true. And so in some cases, permission is not needed if you have enough power and it's just your own choice. It does add some context to this idea that presidents age so rapidly. What if they're just being psychically attacked by every, because they're so famous. What if they're just the target of all these psychic attacks on their souls? I mean, just study Twitter and bots, right? And famous people, look at how, I mean, just wreck some...
Starting point is 01:35:39 When they just constantly have this kind of negative energy pushed at you through these bots or trolls or whatever they are. Block them all. It's spiritual energy. I do, I like, you know, Arch fear used to be like, nah I don't care I'm not gonna block out anybody but I go hmm. I used to feel that way too but. I'm like well after after you got attacked on your Twitter and lost your Twitter account. I'm like oh this is how they get rid of people They don't like they send a bot army to negative Lee Send negative energy towards this account and then Twitter freaks out and gets rid of everybody
Starting point is 01:36:15 It's interesting to me and Everything is energy dude. Everything is energy your energy my energy It's like when you see somebody you instantly connected with them that you knew them for the rest of your life. And then there's people you're like, we just have weird energy together. Yeah, absolutely. It's funny people that don't believe in energy
Starting point is 01:36:35 yet they believe in wifi. Yeah, well, that's mysticism. Where is it? Totally. Where is it? Oh, it's on my phone. I can't touch it? Yeah. That's mysticism. Where is it? Totally. Where is it? Oh, it's on my phone. What?
Starting point is 01:36:46 I can't touch it? Yeah. That's energy. And if you get developed enough, you can definitely feel Wi-Fi and feel electricity. And when I first started my my actually like a year before I had my spiritual awakening, I started hearing electricity. So that definitely puts another level to it. And before we were on, I was plugged in my laptop
Starting point is 01:37:10 and I was using it and I was like, I cannot use it while it's plugged in because it's like zapping me. So it's interesting when you start to kind of develop you, like I couldn't ever use those earbuds because also why would I? It's zapping my brain. Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Why would you put Wi-Fi directly into your brain? Don't do that. But it's interesting. It kind of, like someone asked me a couple of years ago, do you ever think maybe everything you do is not real? And I'm like, no way in hell. Because I see evidence of it all the time. I have clients who are told you're gonna die.
Starting point is 01:37:46 I have clients all the time who are told, you know, here's your scan, here's the cancer all over your body, and then it's just not there anymore. Like, there's no curiosity of whether this is real or not. Like- It's so crazy that people want to reject that. It's crazy to me. It's so- It's crazy to me.
Starting point is 01:38:05 It's so they'll go watch Star Wars and Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter and they'll totally buy into that even though it's like meant to be fiction. And then they get this kind of doom and gloom like this is a totally different subject. But when you talk about the history of AIDS and how real that really was and is it what was it real or was it a giant psyop to get people to exterminate a certain segment of society and you show people this especially my gay friends i'll be like watch this and they just get so angry they get so angry and they're not mad at me. They'll tell me they're like,
Starting point is 01:38:46 I don't want to believe this because I lost so many people. And you're like, but I'm telling you like to save you so you don't find yourself in that same predicament that this is a giant lie, you know? And I don't know, man. It's like crazy to me how And I don't know, man, it's like crazy to me how people just don't want to, like, they're so arrogant about their ignorance.
Starting point is 01:39:11 That is a real big problem right now. People's arrogance about, they instantly, if you put out a tweet stating a certain fact that you believe is a fact, and it goes against their programming, bro, they come out, it's like Agent Smith comes into them, they just, and now they're Agent Smith, and they're just Neo, and they just want to annihilate you, because everyone wants to think they have this great bullshit meter that can detect bullshit, and God forbid,
Starting point is 01:39:44 something got past that bullshit meter. And it's better to believe in the conformity of power that it is to go, I have to go off on my own. Like I talked, I was talking about a sobriety meeting about the trauma I had when I got cut from my eighth grade basketball team. And it sounds so stupid, but my dream was to be the first white basketball player to play for John Thompson and the George John Hoyas because he was a civil rights leader. He only had black players on his team and I love them so much and I wanted to play on there. And when I got cut from there, okay, I got cut. It just, it traumatized me into never wanting
Starting point is 01:40:26 to trust people to judge my talent. And it's really has wreaked havoc on my career. Today I'm good, we got the show, it's doing amazing, but it's all been done outside of the power structure of entertainment. Was there a trial for that? What? For that?
Starting point is 01:40:47 For the eighth grade basketball team, I got caught. Were they wrong? Were you actually good? That's what I'm asking. Were you that good where you were kind of upset where like it was close? I thought I was. I would be open-minded, like I say in standup.
Starting point is 01:40:56 It's like, if you don't think I'm funny, I'll accept that. I'm not gonna sit there and try to tell you you're wrong about your beliefs on my standup. I've done enough in my life you know this show has been a top 100 podcast for seven years eight years however long this show has been going that in comedy for me to go I think I think I'm okay but if you don't want to think I'm funny I'm okay with that that's totally fine with me. So if they said I wasn't good enough, the big thing was that the guy I was going up against,
Starting point is 01:41:29 his father was the drinking buddy of the coach. They used to go to the bar all the time. There we go. So, and that might just be me looking for an out, but the point of that is it traumatized me into ever wanting to allow anyone to judge me and I'm bringing that into into my life and that's kind of like
Starting point is 01:41:51 That that so the whole point of that is is like I've never been able to be the person that's able to work through the power Structure of conformity ever it's just never happened in my life. I've always been an outlaw Ever it just never happened in my life. I've always been an outlaw So it's easy for me to go. Oh, that's not true That's they're lying to you because that has been my my viewpoint since I got cut from that basketball team You know But if you're someone who has always been on the Dean's list the principals list Always told you you got gold stars and a plus is forever You have been able to work through the system
Starting point is 01:42:26 because the system has been, can you prove to us your conformity? When you're taking a test in school, you're not necessarily the most knowledgeable, but are you able to regurgitate what the teacher wants you to believe? And I'm not, education's very important. I do worry about some of the stuff
Starting point is 01:42:46 that we're taught in these colleges that make people go against their own natural drives, their own natural callings. You know, like when people are like, oh, I don't want to have kids. Okay, I'm fine with that, but why don't you want to have kids? And is it because you want to focus on a career
Starting point is 01:43:04 and you think the career is more important than your children? And then the people who did that and how maybe, I think a lot of them are miserable, but they don't want to tell you that because misery loves company. So they'd rather you go make the same mistakes as them instead of going, hey dude, I've really fucked up.
Starting point is 01:43:21 I should have done this, this and that. Like the woman who created Sex and the City is like, I messed up. I should have done this, isn't it? Like the woman who created Sex and the City is like, I messed up. I totally presented something. I mean, you, you used to be like, no kids running and gunning. And you've told me like, yo, I used to tell you that. I wasted so many years chasing the rock
Starting point is 01:43:36 and roll view of the world. And it was complete waste of time. I now tell those stories as look how stupid I was instead of look how bad badass I was, right? So yeah, I completely agree with that. It's like, can people see that? Can people open their mind to? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:53 So you're talking about something that's really scary for most people because again, this is like a cognitive dissonance for them. And as you said, a system that's rewarded them their whole lives. So what would be the incentive for them to believe something is different, to become self-aware, to become aware of being programmed? Because it's also like a big blow to the ego. Like I've been programmed, my thoughts are not my own. There's some sort of agenda, whatever it may be. And then that's a whole other can of worms that has been telling me what to think. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:44:30 I think what I think because I think it. And so this is a big source of cognitive dissonance for people, a big source of like an ego death a lot of times as well. And people can't a lot of times handle that, especially when the system rewards you. Because I'll tell you as someone who is outside of the system, it does not reward you. Yes, it actually punishes you.
Starting point is 01:44:55 Right, it certainly punishes you and it makes your life a lot more difficult. And I'm someone who like, you know, growing up trying to like work jobs and things, I've got a genius IQ and I've been reprimanded and beaten down for that at every step of the way because I start working somewhere, I'll see the systems that are not running correctly,
Starting point is 01:45:15 I'll notice that the boss is doing the wrong thing, I'll try to make things better and then I get fired. Because I'm working outside the system. Any other person you talk to would say, that's crazy, that's for you. You are 100% correct. Johnny- I know I am, it's my lived life experience.
Starting point is 01:45:33 No, you're 100% correct. You even see it in sports, Johnny. How many times have you heard an athlete go, they don't like me because I'm too smart? You remember that Florida state safety that was like an all American and he wanted to go study and then he wanted to come back to the NFL and the NFL did not want him there
Starting point is 01:45:55 because they can see through the social constructs of what they want you to do as a professional football player, which is completely and utterly throw your life on the line, your health and wellbeing, even your possible mobility to possibly be crippled and paralyzed. Myron Roll, right?
Starting point is 01:46:15 Yeah, he played at Florida State. And he would constantly talk about how he would hear them complain he was too smart. Oh, they don't want that. Yeah, cause smart people can. At work, dude, at work, second guess. When you go to work and your manager at the restaurant is not the smartest person in the world and you see through it, they hate that shit. There is a reward for mediocrity.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Right. So that's a huge part of it. And then there's also the fact that, like I mentioned before, the, the survival mechanism, like if I'm going outside the system, I'm going to be excommunicated from the system and the society. And then like, you know, even though maybe if I'm, let's say excommunicated from my family or from my job on a surface level, you can be like, well, it's not that big of a deal.
Starting point is 01:47:07 You can go get another job. You can go live somewhere else in our cellular memory and our genetic memory. We are terrified of that because we can't survive without the system. Right? Like we get sent out into the darkness from the fire and we're dead as soon as an animal gets us. You're so right. So we really have that survival mechanism beat into us. And so it's really scary to go outside the system. And it's not and you know, I see this happen a lot with people who work with me long term and their lives start to really shift.
Starting point is 01:47:42 And sometimes they're like, you know, I really got to leave my job or I got to change, you know, we've got to leave my relationship or change it or something because they've become aware, they've become aware of things and that's not easy. And it's a lot easier to stay quiet and stay small and keep your mouth shut and pretend that everything's fine. So I think that a lot of times it really is a choice. And again, I'm not judging or blaming people for making that choice because I get it. Like for myself, it's certainly been a lot harder
Starting point is 01:48:13 to open my mouth and question things, you know? But it does make sense if you think about it. And for you, you had this traumatic experience and that really shaped your direction. And of course it sucked and I'm sorry that you went through that, but also like look at the trajectory that it put you on. You might have still today been in this system
Starting point is 01:48:36 had you gotten chosen, you know? No, you're totally right. And you know, I don't know if you know this show, if you don't, you're blessed even more, but I do believe that we live in a mass singer society. Like, and my friends on that show, and I don't know if you know the mass singer, it's an American show, it's basically,
Starting point is 01:48:54 someone comes out in a giant costume, you can't tell who it is, they sing a song poorly, greatly, and then the judges guess who's singing it, and then they reveal, and it's been on television forever my cat my friend Ken Young Young who is the one the nicest guys you ever meet? I hope the show is on forever I hope he cashes all the checks and makes all the money. This is not a negative thing I love him and I'm happy for him. He's on a successful show, but that show is idiocracy It's idiocracy. And it is, it is symbol, it
Starting point is 01:49:27 symbolizes the state of our culture right now. We're watching a lot of these crowd work comedians work and then I'll let you go, I won't keep you all day. These crowd work comedians and you know there's this new kid, he's selling out theaters, he's doing his act in auto-tune, he's doing crowd work in auto-tune. What? Yeah, he's auto-tuning it and's doing crowd work in auto-tune. What? Yeah, he's auto-tuning it. And there's some people- What do you mean by that?
Starting point is 01:49:49 He's pitch correcting his voice. While he does crowd work. But is he singing? What is your name? Can I have your number? And everyone goes crazy. And it's like, it's really brilliant to know that the auto-tune crushed in music.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Why wouldn't it crush in comedy? So weird. And I guarantee you there's people that are really upset about it because it seems like a cheat code. I'm fine with it. Whatever you got to do to make it. I'm super happy for you kid.
Starting point is 01:50:16 I hope you crush it. You're doing huge numbers. But that is the society we live in right now. It is the, what's the word I'm looking for? It is, I mean, like you use these terms, it comes off like it's a negative connotation of what I'm saying, but it's just keep it simple, stupid. And it's the simplest form,
Starting point is 01:50:39 it's the most easily digestible. When we all take a look at like, when we look at the Carlins and the Bill Hicks, there was limited information out there. It was controlled by the elites through the mass media. People were dying to hear what was really going on. Well, now with the internet, your Twitter feed, your Instagram feed is just all this crazy trauma.
Starting point is 01:51:01 Someone gets stabbed in Cincinnati, you think you're going to get stabbed outside your house. Now they want to escape that. They want to numb out. Yeah. I mean, our, our nervous system was certainly not designed to see someone getting stabbed and then someone dying in a flood and then a bomb being dropped, whether it's real or not.
Starting point is 01:51:22 And then, you know, 10 traumatic things every three seconds. There's no possible way we could metabolize that information. And so, and then we get compassion fatigue, you know, and it's like, I follow all these, I love dogs, and so I follow all these dog shelters and every day it's like, gonna get euthanized at 1.29 p.m. unless it's safe. It's like, fuck man, it's too much, right? And so it's too much for us to metabolize. And so again, I'm not blaming, judging, or shaming anyone.
Starting point is 01:51:59 You know, the stuff I do, like I'm working with people who are being told they're gonna die or have real life issues every day. So sometimes at the end of the day, yeah, I want to watch a romcom and numb my brain out. And I'm not judging anyone for doing that. I'm just saying that everything that we do is an exchange of our life, an exchange of
Starting point is 01:52:21 our life, the exchange of our life force. And so if you can take a few minutes out of your day to meditate and like become aware of your internal landscape and breathe instead of scrolling, maybe five minutes a day only to start with, like that's gonna change your life. If you can spend your first five minutes of the day inside of your own brain before you look at your phone, you're going to be attuned to like the field of your own intelligence, not the field of the matrix and whatever, whoever's
Starting point is 01:52:53 inside your phone that day wants to tell you. So I'm not shaming or blaming anyone. I'm not either. Yeah. And I know, and I know you're not either. I just can sometimes come off like that because I'm bullying people into Coming self-aware, but I think you know learn discernment and I'll tell you in the past couple weeks every single ad I've seen on Instagram, which is the only platform
Starting point is 01:53:16 I'm on has been AI and And nobody seems to notice that nobody seems to notice that the voice isn't matching up to the lips and that it's a fake human being. And I want people to notice that so you can make your own choice. And I remember in 2020 2019 seeing watching this interview of Elon Musk and, and the interviewer was like, you know, cause this was kind of before a lot of this was really big and before AI came out to the public and, and, and the interviewer was like, I don't understand, like help me understand. And he was like, okay, so let's say you're just sitting there watching TV and all of a sudden you think, oh, I want to go to Applebee's for dinner. And you didn't see an ad for Applebee's it was in your brain.
Starting point is 01:53:59 So you have no way of knowing whether you actually wanted. That is a great point. Body autonomy. Everybody's for body autonomy until it's certain things, right? That is like everybody's for body autonomy until it comes to the government. And then through programming, they just are, yeah, I don't care. Put ads in my fucking head. Make me take a vaccine.
Starting point is 01:54:25 It's unbelievable. The state of California is the worst of that. The worst. So like, please spend a little bit of time and energy cultivating your discernment. You don't have to listen to me. You don't have to listen to anyone. I want you to listen to yourself.
Starting point is 01:54:42 But most people don't understand how to do that. And they think like, like I'll teach people how to like intuitively eat and they'll be like, well, I intuitively want to eat cookies all day. No, you don't. That's your emotional body. Your emotional body will see cookies all day. So learning your discernment and how to know like what's going on and what your thoughts and feelings are telling you is just so, so important.
Starting point is 01:55:03 So when you see a story or an ad or hear your friend talk or whatever it is you can know like you know this is actually not true. Maybe it's even a thought in your own head. What about that? What about all the thoughts in your own head that maybe say like you're a piece of shit you don't deserve this good thing. We were we've been talking about that like how many of your thoughts are actually your own real thoughts? Or what she's talking about, like Neuralink, imagine if you have like the basic and they throw ads
Starting point is 01:55:32 at you because you have the basic Neuralink, so unless you go premium. Oh, that's so hilarious, go ad free. That's in the new Black Mirror. Is it? Yeah, well, it's something like that where there's this, this woman has a stroke and her life is saved by this technology that simulates part a portion of the brain spoiler alerts for black mirror and They slowly
Starting point is 01:55:53 Force her to get upgrades to pay for more and more upgrades or she gets these ads beamed into her brain directly You know, it's because it's ad supported then it's a nightmare and it's coming. It is absolutely coming Yeah, because I mean it's just like everything you when Netflix started it was like no ads or you could give it to everybody and they just little by little they're like oh no you can only have it on three TVs drug dealer gives out free drugs get everybody hooked yeah yeah absolutely and if you think social media is free, then you're the product. 100%. Jaya, this has been great. This has been great.
Starting point is 01:56:31 One more time, tell them where they can find you. So you can find me on Instagram at Jaya Simrit Kaur, and from there you can click on the link in my bio to learn about working with me. I have a group container coming up. I also do one on one. Come see me and we'll work some stuff out. All right, perfect. This has been an explosively awesome episode. Let's break it down. All right, guys, what did you think of her?
Starting point is 01:56:57 What did you think of? That's a name. What did you think of? Good luck. Come on, aren't you a sidekick? Jaiya! Godspeed. Jaiya!
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Starting point is 01:58:09 Remember that song from Slumdog millionaire Jai Ho? That's what I was saying. Jai Ho! Jai Ho! I love their conspiracy smoke show. Oh, easy. I enjoyed it. I thought it was a great conversation. She knows. I feel like we didn't go deep enough. I feel like I'm gonna get yelled at by Mark Sam why did you ask her about the priest battling demons? I tried it just
Starting point is 01:58:32 Sometimes you don't get there dude. Sometimes the conversation goes where it needs to go. Yeah Yeah, I have no complaints about that conversation. I Enjoyed it a lot. I might have gotten a little too political earlier I feel like in both episodes that we did over last week I made statements that I saw kind of the guests kind of shift When I was talking about how the paraplegics are the real and words he goes Yes, sometimes you forget that we are in our own kind of bubble where where we Kind of go hard. You know, I mean like you go hard Yeah, yeah, and we forget when and then somebody comes in from the real world occasionally
Starting point is 01:59:13 I don't know if either of them would be the traditional real world and I'm not that's not a negative Oh realer world than we're you. Yeah. Well, I mean like the politically incorrect world I would say some people are still in that and they worry about people's feelings And I respect it, but I thought she was great man. I thought there was uh, I think she got into a lot of great stuff Especially the trauma. I thought that was great. I think I think that's a big part of why I'm pushing against progressive a progressive agenda because it wants to inflict trauma on children But if you go to Sam Tripoli calm, we'll get it back into that real quick. Go Sam Tripoli calm
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Starting point is 02:02:27 go to XG Marks the Spot on YouTube. I do backstage of me painting Sam's studio, so go catch me doing Mexican. Oh, backstage? Yeah, Mexican shit. I love it, dude. Literally watching paint dry? Yeah, I went like, oh no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:02:39 I also recorded me at Empty House Home Depot. Oh yeah. That is not the Home Depot of my dad. Yeah, it's a new depot. Yeah, it's Home Deport. Home Deport. And Johnny? Check me out on Twitter at Johnny Woodard.
Starting point is 02:02:51 I'm arguing 24-7 on there. Check me out. Yeah, I thought it was a great episode. I thought you did great. I would really like, no matter what your religious or spiritual beliefs are, to be open-minded that there's more going on, and that isn't challenging everybody's beliefs. This is a place where everyone gets to talk and I thought it was great. Anything else guys? I felt left out. Why?
Starting point is 02:03:12 Two psychics and me? No psychic power here. You have Mexican psychic abilities. You can sense when ice is near. Oh yeah, it starts with my us's my us Stop I sense authorities coming You know that feeling when Dodgers fans are about to beat the shit out of some guy from San Francisco That's and you kind of get out of the way, you know, I mean, that's that's that's the Mexican Dodgers are sucking Andrew Friedman offends the baseball. It's great for baseball that they're not maybe I'm not Yeah, I think Andrew Friedman is a great GM, but he's constantly disrespecting the base Well, they they paid millions and millions and millions for this guy that looks like a teenager from Japan the twink Oh, this is Aki. I mean he looks like he looks like a twink. Yeah, you got rid of established baseball people
Starting point is 02:03:59 The biggest thing I know but nobody wants here baseball talk here, but Johnny and I are talking. Yes. Sorry about this The biggest thing I know, but nobody wants to hear baseball talk here, but Johnny and I are talking. Sorry about this, but you got rid of players from your world series winning team and brought in other players. You ride with the guys that got you there. By the way, that didn't work. The Braves did exactly that and it took them into the depths of hell. So you can go wrong either way to be fair.
Starting point is 02:04:25 The number one pitcher in Detroit is the guy that won game one for us. There's no reason to get rid of him. This Japanese twink or Korean twink. He's so bad, dude. Right? The guy you got, he's just, he's just the most you can hope for is he turns into him. He looks like he's moments away from breaking out into tears. I just think he goes home and grabs his Pokemon and just cries. He looks like as soon as he's off camera he's about to weep.
Starting point is 02:04:55 And that's why they're hiding him, because he's probably fragile right now. He can't handle the heat. You gave him too much money too early, dude. Anyways, enjoy these highlights. Here's a clip from the latest Broken Sim. Yeah, so this guy just goes on like this, just spewing bullshit. And then at the end, he goes, he doesn't appeal to authority. He says, yeah, and you, you just have to trust the hundreds of thousands of meteorologists and I mean, all these people. It's been demonstrated. Yeah, exactly. Brian Callan sent me a picture of his kid
Starting point is 02:05:26 in a tinfoil hat, and I go, Brian, how are you surrounded by so many incredibly intelligent people, yet you love to keep your head deep in your ass? And in fact, if that company could produce rain like that, believe me, they would be making a lot more money. They'd be like Nvidia or Google because they would have the power to create this rain where we needed it It's not what they do. I don't think he's so they're talking about just increasing it a little bit He just thinks we're going to see a lot of discussion online about cloud. Hey, what do you think?
Starting point is 02:06:02 There's gonna be more discussion on cloud seeding or About class. What do you think there's gonna be more discussion on? cloud seating or People dying from floods that show up out of nowhere quickly. Yeah that it is a small scale Tech that guy with the mullet is a mass murderer Do you think do you think that? He you see it when I hear that guy I think Patsy that guy I think that guy's a Patsy. It's he's just out there to cover He's or he's taking all the arrows. That's what I mean. Yeah, he's a patsy. He's like maybe he didn't even know
Starting point is 02:06:34 He's doing I don't think he I think he's just out there matter is a face for this. Listen if you Are chemically making something let's just not even say it's an illegal substance. Let's just say somehow you came up with a way to make your own paint, right? You're going to make paint. Paint. As in paint the walls. You make your own paint. I thought you said paint.
Starting point is 02:06:57 And you're mixing it and it's like, let's say it's a 4th of July party, but you're so close to getting that purple paint that you really love. you're like if I just tweak this a couple bit Okay, right tweak tweak tweak tweak tweak and suddenly I'll know where boom There's an explosion and a bunch of people you get you get done for that you get hit with that a paint explosion Yeah, I'm just trying to make people. And you made people purple? No, they passed away. You killed people making a color of paint. Are we allowed to say that on YouTube? This crappy ass platform? Yeah, I don't know. I don't think we should. I'll fix it in that. Okay. Yeah, you kill somebody, you kill a couple people because your homemade paint explodes. I think it's schm. It's more side
Starting point is 02:07:45 You can't say like sure sure often yourself. Sure. You can't say that kind of so These are by the way, we should say anything to do with cloud seeding Etc is a harmful conspiracy theory and we we find them just reprehensible He's talking about cloud seeding. Why Why can't we talk about what we say? It's evil. Exactly. It is evil. It's a horrible conspiracy theory to even talk about, Sam.
Starting point is 02:08:10 We Johnny, why did you bring me there? That we want to clarify. So accepting of his is it his description of cloud seeding? You should be accepting of it because it's a harmful. Listen, he's right. These things, they would make so much money if they could do it, guys. Come on.
Starting point is 02:08:28 Let's just, I mean, what are you guys not? They just think us so dumb. So, Tucker Carlson has been going after the president. Trump called him kooky in response, and it's just been incredibly dismissive of him. So, you shared this with me. Tucker is just really committing now to not accept this position of you know, being at odds with Trump. Here it is.
Starting point is 02:08:56 And I think the real answer is Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of Intel Services, probably not American. And we have the right to ask on whose behalf was he working? How does a guy go from being a math teacher at the Dalton School in the late 70s with no college degree to having multiple airplanes, a private island and the largest residential house in Manhattan? Where did all the money come from? And no one has ever gotten to the bottom of that because no one has ever tried. And moreover, it's extremely obvious to anyone who watches that this guy had direct connections to a foreign government.
Starting point is 02:09:28 We know he did. And no one's allowed to say that that foreign government is Israel because we have been somehow cowed into thinking that that's naughty. There is nothing wrong with saying that. There is nothing hateful about saying that. There's nothing anti-Semitic about saying that. There's nothing even anti-Israel about saying that. There is nothing hateful about saying that. There's nothing anti-Semitic about saying that. There's nothing even anti-Israel about saying that.
Starting point is 02:09:47 I've spent my entire life pretty much in Washington where I knew and loved a number of people, including one very close person, who worked at CIA. That has never prohibited me from saying, I think the CIA has done some horrible things, murdered a bunch of people, participated in the murder of a sitting US president. It's got a whole trail of crimes. That doesn't make me a disloyal American. It doesn't make me anti-American in any sense. I was born here.
Starting point is 02:10:11 My family's been here for hundreds of years. I love this country. That's why I live here. So criticizing the behavior of a government agency does not make you a hater. It makes you a free person. They can never let that happen. You're allowed to do that because you're not a slave, you're a citizen.
Starting point is 02:10:30 And you have a right to expect that your government will not act against your interests and you have a right to demand that foreign governments not be allowed to act against your interests. That's not creepy. It shouldn't be forbidden. And yet all of us have trained ourselves to believe that you can't say that somehow. That that's like too naughty and forbidden. And the effect of making that off limits has been to create a lot of resentment and I'll say it, hate online.
Starting point is 02:11:02 Where people feel like they can't just say like, what the hell is this? You have the former Israeli prime minister living in your house yeah you have got all this contact with the foreign government he's making you do their laundry of massade were you running a blackmail operation on behalf of foreign government by the way every single person in washington dc thinks that i've never met anyone who doesn't think that. I don't know any of them that hate Israel, but no one feels they can say that. Why?
Starting point is 02:11:30 And I think the longer that we play along with it, the more subterranean and creepy and hateful the conversation actually becomes. 100%. I think it's better to say it right out loud. Did this happen? And of course that question has been asked to the government of Israel, and their answer
Starting point is 02:11:45 is we're not going to tell you. And I think our answer should be no, no, no. As long as we're sending you money, if you are committing crimes on our soil, we have an absolute right to know, did you do this or not? And yet everybody has been so brainwashed into thinking that's somehow an expression of hate or bigotry when it's not it's a baseline question that every U.S. citizen has a right to an answer on. What the hell was this? And by the way if it turns out that it was nothing anyway that that's I'm gonna say I said this before and I got a ton of pushback
Starting point is 02:12:26 This stuff is going can you take it down? This stuff is going to be why? Trump loses if you'd like to hear the rest of this episode subscribe to broken simulation in your podcasting app or check us out at youtube.com slash sam trippoli Tripoli.

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