Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #911: Kabbalah, Bloodlines And the Occult Origins of Mormonism with Heidi Luv

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

On this gripping episode, we're joined by Heidi Luv from The Unfiltered Rise Podcast to unravel the secretive power structure known as the Mormon Mafia—a hidden network with deep ties to Howard Hugh...es, whose most trusted aide, Mormon elite William Gay, quietly ran Hughes' empire for over five decades. We dive into how the Mormon influence still echoes today in pop culture and power circles, from Las Vegas’ mobbed-up founding to The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Plus, we explore the mystifying “Mormon will,” the 34-year battle over Hughes’ estate, and the shocking bloodline claims linking Joseph Smith to Jesus himself. Could ancient Templar traditions, Viking settlements in Canada, and the Mi'kmaq people all be part of this tangled, divine-right narrative? Tune in for a deep dive into faith, power, and the families that refuse to let go of it. Please subscribe to the new Tin Foil Hat youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@TinFoilHatYoutube Check out Sam Tripoli new crowd work special "Black Crack Robots" now for free. https://youtu.be/_FKugOeYaLc Check out Sam Tripoli’s 2nd New Crowd Work Special “Potty Mouth” on YouTube for free. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22j3Ds5ArjM Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/415fDfY Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Tuesday At 4pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now!  Go to samtripoli.gold and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show. CopyMyCrypto.com: The ‘Copy my Crypto’ membership site shows you the coins that the youtuber ‘James McMahon’ personally holds - and allows you to copy him. So if you’d like to join the 1300 members who copy James, then stop what you’re doing and head over to: CopyMyCrypto.com/TFH You’ll not only find proof of everything I’ve said - but my listeners get full access for just $1 Want to see Sam Tripoli live?  Get tickets at SamTripoli.com: Hollywood, Ca:  Comedy Chaos Live At The Comedy Store on August 12th https://www.showclix.com/event/comedy-chaos-august12th   Huntington Beach: Headlining the Mamba Sports Bar & Grill on August 17th https://www.eventbrite.com/e/sam-tripoli-special-event-tickets-1471278867699   Chicago: Headlining The Comedy Bar Sept 12th-13th https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/september-12-13-sam-tripoli-4497173   Austin, Tx:  Headlining The Fat Man At Comedy Mothership Oct 17th-19th https://samtripoli.com/events/?paged=2   Please check out Heidi Luv' s internet: Linktree: https://bit.ly/46EPKGt Podcast: Unfiltered Rise Podcast- https://bit.ly/3UjG10S   Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedy Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/ Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/   Thank you to our sponsors: HIMS: No man wants to lose his hair, but for men, it's actually very common. And now with Hims, the solution is simple. Try Hims' hair loss solutions and you'll be joining hundreds of thousands of subscribers who got their flow back.  Start your free online visit today at Hims dot com slash TINFOILHAT.  That's hims.com/TINFOILHAT for your personalized hair loss treatment options. Quince:  Quince has closet staples you'll want to reach for over and over — like cozy Cashmere and cotton sweaters from just $50, breathable Flowknit polos, and comfortable, lightweight pants that somehow work for both weekend hangs and dressed-up dinners.  Go to Quince dot com slash TINFOILHAT for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. That's Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash TINFOILHAT to get free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince dot com slash  

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Starting point is 00:00:27 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some inter-dimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind-blown? Revolution will be podcasted. Welcome to Timfoil hat live from the Wise Wolf Golden Silver Studios.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Just go to Samtripple.org, use promo code Timfoil, and you two can get in on the Pressmells game for his little. That's $50 a month. Very excited to have this guest on. She's a long-time listener. And she started a podcast around, I think, 2002, 2003. After listening to the show, I'd like to call her one of my children. 2023.
Starting point is 00:01:15 2023. Oh, 20203. I'd be like, dude, you invented the podcast. That's how long you've been in the game. She's the godmother of podcasting. Very excited to have her on. And her podcast is called Unfiltered Rise. Please welcome Heidi Love.
Starting point is 00:01:32 How are you? I'm great. I'm glad to be here. Thank you so much for having me on. I'm excited to share some Mormon stuff with you. I'm very excited. I'm a big eyebrow guy and your eyebrows are on point. Oh.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Oh, thank you so much. No, I'm a big eyebrow guy. Big eyebrow guy. You know, it's a blonde thing. You have to draw them a little bit. Is that? Is that? Yeah, blonde with brunette eyebrows?
Starting point is 00:01:55 I'm all about that. you look great thanks for coming your studio's great and glad you glad you started a podcast the more the merrier i say the more the merrier um Heidi for those who may not be familiar with you and and your podcast do you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you absolutely i am Heidi love of the unfiltered rise podcast i didn't make up that name my parents were raging hippies um so there's that we'll get into that later i am everywhere podcasts are served I do have my own website, unfilteredridespodcast.com, and I also have a Patreon if you can't get enough of me rambling on. Do you get any trouble on your Patreon?
Starting point is 00:02:37 Well, you know, I get in trouble in general because I still live in Utah. And so the comments are always fun, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't imagine what that must be like to live in Utah and be talking so much about the Mormon church. And, you know, this is, uh, uh, what was it to? I used to talk about how Scientology and Mormonism were like the UPN and the, what were the two channels that they had way back in the day that were super small. Uh, you know, I used to make jokes that they were like the
Starting point is 00:03:13 WG, WG and the UPN of, uh, of, of religions where they were like small channels or the CW. CW and it's UPN, right? That was a channel. Yeah, yeah, WG was Chicago, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they were kind of offshoots, these little tiny offshoots. And the history, I always found it weird where someone, let's say, even if you go into the 1800s, right, which seems like a far time ago, a long time ago, but really in the, you know, human history isn't that long ago. And, you know, you're just like, all of a sudden it's like 1904 and you're like, I figured it all out. I know how the world started I know what God is
Starting point is 00:03:57 It's totally different than what all these religions have been telling you for years and years and years and years and years And years and years I figured it out like Scientology It's like such a crazy thing to me That you would like suddenly start it like in what the 60s or 70s Didn't you have a license No he was naval intelligence People don't talk about that But the point is it's very very interesting to me
Starting point is 00:04:20 When you kind of start like you remember when we had the guy his religion was space Johnny way back today oh the thinking guy who invented his own religion yeah yeah yeah what was that called Astonism or something like that Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:04:36 Now Zoroastrianism No no no that's the oldest Yeah that's a That's Mormonism No it was a guy we had on Interesting I can't wait to get into that And I do like to tell people
Starting point is 00:04:48 You know I'm not an anti-Mormon loving person or like I don't have any agenda against personal people. I just feel like if you're being dishonest with people about what you're doing with your whatever it is, I don't care if it's a company or religion or whatever. But if you're not doing this honestly, that's why I speak out. But it has nothing to do with the regular members of the church. Like this is why I want to. Because they're nice people.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Because they're nice people. Yeah. Like I've been thinking about going to Russian Orthodox. I know I've been saying that for a while. but it's really more about just trying to meet like-minded people. Fellowship. Yes. Yeah, that's really what's all about.
Starting point is 00:05:30 So you were born into this. You were born into Mormonism. And before we get into what you wanted to talk about, when did you start to realize something might not be what you think it is? I don't think I ever would have got out or, like, completely abandoned ship if it hadn't been for my mom getting out first and planning tiny. seeds and then my husband because I was full-fledged. Like, I was 100% in this. You couldn't have talked to me about the things I speak about. Like, I would have just shut you down and walked away. I was married at 17 the first time. And no, it wasn't like forced or anything weird.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I was mainstream Mormons, not polygamy. But it was just everything in my life centered around that church. And, you know, I did lose my family when I left. But to this day, your dad or your siblings? All of my extended aunts, uncles, grandparents, everybody. The only people that I have left is my husband and my children and my mom and my brother, but he passed away. So that's sorry to hear that. That's crazy to me. That reminds. I just want to start the backup recording. Sorry, I forgot to do that, and I think we might need it for... Okay, we have... Recording in progress.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Okay, thank you. That is crazy to me, that you could lose your family under over idea, ideology. No, and those are like, they'll act like you don't exist at all, which is crazy to me, because it's not like, oh, happy thing... Happy birthday or Merry Christmas, no, it's you don't exist by... They won't talk to your children, to me, blows my mind. I mean, that just blows my mind. I mean, obviously, it's not to the extent of that, but it's like how Trump broke up families before we started to really not be into Trump.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I mean, I had good friends of mine stop talking to me because they thought it was a Trump guy. And they stopped talking to their family, dude, because of Trump. Oh, I thought you were talking about immigration. You mean just people who over politics fell out like that? Yeah, that's the craziest thing. I don't understand that. It's so crazy to me that there could be, because, like, very early on. especially into COVID, I realize that, you know, that me and people I love don't see it the same
Starting point is 00:07:59 way. I can either like fight with them or just let it go, you know, and just you can believe whatever you want to believe. And so that's crazy. I'm sorry you went through that. That's okay. I'm not, I'm not angry about it so much. And I've never been excommunicated because I know like the people that are Mormon are going to be like, she's lazy. She just doesn't want to do the things. And I'm like, guess what? My name is still untainted on the records because I thought by now they'd chuck me out. But I guess I'm going to have to chuck myself out. And so that's a whole process. Is that important to you that you are checked out? Well, I just assumed like everybody I've ever known has been chucked out like as soon as they start this. And I'm right down the street from like 30
Starting point is 00:08:40 churches and I'm still here. And I just am like, that's weird. So I guess I'm going to have to do it myself. And you have to go through an attorney and get an affidavit. to be removed from the whole roster it's a big deal so crazy that they got roster oh you have no yeah no they know everything like when you do tiding there it isn't like past the plate we hope you give it's sit down with your taxes and you're short so short on giving to the church if it's not perfectly 10% yeah you're not going to get your temple recommend so you can't go do all the things you're supposed to do if you didn't pay but you're You can make it up by like going and scrubbing toilets and being a janitor or something.
Starting point is 00:09:24 You know, and I just want to say because we do have a lot of Mormon followers that this is a discussion. If I can talk about whether Jesus was real or not, I can talk about anything and it's nothing personal against anybody as long as you're a good person and you get close to God, you can do whatever you want as long as you're not hurting children. That's my whole thing and that will always be my whole thing. I've had, we just did something on Judaism or Zionism. So everything is on the table. So where do you want to begin? Well, it depends. I'm going to ask you.
Starting point is 00:09:57 So we have all kinds of fun conspiracies and things we can open up on slides. So I speak about occult Mormonism and it's a cult roots. And then I also speak about the Mormon mafia in great lengths. Both of them are pretty long conversations, but I can try and do my best to kind of intertwine them. But let me know where you want to start. I want you to start, where do you guys want to start? Colt Mormonism? I love that.
Starting point is 00:10:24 It's like the founding of the church. Yes, let's go. Let's go there. Let's go. Okay. Well, let me share my screen because I always say a picture's worth a thousand words because I just know as an ex-member myself, I never would have believed anything that people told me unless, right, unless there was a reason. Like, you've got to show me some proof.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Like, I'm not just going to believe what you're saying. that's just not going to happen. So whenever you want to get to know anybody, and can you see this okay? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome. Okay, you kind of want to look at their family and their family roots and like, what is this person about? So I kind of did that with Joseph Smith after I started down this road. And I thought, okay, I just want to see like who are these members of his family. Well, a lot of times you'll go up this family search.org, which is the Mormon, Mormon genealogy site. 23 Me, Ancestry.com, all those things, they'll say, we aren't owned by the Mormon church. We have nothing to do with them. True. But every single piece of record you have is pouring in from family search.org, which was created under Hughes Dynamics, under the Mormon Mafia, under Howard Hughes.
Starting point is 00:11:36 So that's, yeah, that's a bomb in itself. And this starts out, like you use it a lot to go down genealogy. And I could not find these grandparents or great-grandparents. of Joseph. So I went up his uncle's line because he can be found and same family. So same grandpa. And I found these weird things that I thought, why are they kind of obfuscating this? When, you know, Mormons are very patriotic usually. Like I said, my problem is not with the normal members. It is 100% with the things they hide that normal members would never know, much like this slide. So Samuel Smith is this captain that is involved in, you know, this
Starting point is 00:12:19 complete part of like a very important situation with the boston tea party he's a selectman in topsfield massachusetts and they'll deny it they'll say well it might not be him same name same area you know joseph smith's father was born in this area i mean every everything traces like i've traced it all the way around and so they want us to think that these people are poor dumb farmers, right? Joseph Smith, Portum Farmer, like, couldn't have written the book because he was not educated enough. Meanwhile, he's studying
Starting point is 00:12:53 Hebrew with this Jewish guy he knew, but that's fine. Whatever. Yeah, yeah. So it gets like that. So when we find these things and we're like, why on earth would they hide this Captain Samuel Smith, Society of the Cincinnati,
Starting point is 00:13:08 they can check that too on the daughters. It's like the daughters of Revolution or something. And, and And so you can go check all these facts out for yourselves. And I'm like, okay, that seems weird. Why would they hide him? And so I went one more up. Even LDS Living published this in 2002.
Starting point is 00:13:28 So this is like a legit article. And I couldn't figure out why they would want to hide this guy. Seems fine. Seems great. Well, his dad, though, born in 1666, like 666. Wow. That's a long time ago, dude. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And his name is also Samuel Smith, but minus the captain. So he, I found out probably is the reason why things are a little bit murky and they don't want you going down this level because he was very much involved in the Inquisition. And he had some witches hung. So, Mary Easty. They're all over American history, huh? I would say that Mormonism is the one very inconspicuous, the night. people you've ever met that have infiltrated every aspect of America, in my opinion. Not the normal people. I'm talking the upper echelon. This works just like anything else.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Every group has psychopaths. I don't care who it is. You know, even clowns at John Wing-Gacy. You know what I'm saying? Like every group has psychopaths. And that's why like even the discussion right now in Israel, not to get into that because we just did an episode on it. But, you know, every, I mean, I'm Armenian. Imagine an Armenian going. There's no most shady Armenians out there. They're all good people that are above board and only want to make chicken. You know what I'm saying? It's like. Right. Yeah. No. No, not true. Yeah. I mean, I mean, the thing is, is the whole thing about America is they hide everything about our history, right? And there too. Like, this is all constant. And it's kind of sad in a way because really it wasn't that. that bad. Like, let's, let's not chuck out the whole history over it, but they did. And what do they say? They say, no, no, he was from the burnedover district. Well, true, but every single one of his paternal family line is from Topsfield, Massachusetts, and these were important people. They were, like I said, selectmen running the town. So I just feel like the church did a disservice there. And we're going to talk about how the church is very different now than what I'm
Starting point is 00:15:44 going to show you back in the day and d michael quinn i'm going to cite my sources really well on here because people are going to come for me and i already know they are but if you it's happened i've been on confessionals like yeah they came for me so tony murkle yep tony tony was great the comments were brutal yeah so i know it's like real quick before you move to this you know the tea party they believe was a false flag you know well done by the br i don't know if you're going to get into that but like, you know, that the Bank of England wanted basically to take over the territories from the Crown, which owed them like $180 million. And that's like way back in the day.
Starting point is 00:16:26 But as in the, they knew it was coming? What? The, the people that were going to come destroy the team? No, they basically convinced them probably to do it. Okay. Because, well, isn't there something that it wasn't the Indians that they were in on, that they did it to themselves? I've heard some theory like that. well they just dressed up as
Starting point is 00:16:44 as Indians. Yeah. So it was literally a false flag. Yeah. So I have to tell you something. Like I don't know how much you know about the Mormon massacre. But like, okay, we're going to get way later in history. If you've watched the show Primeval. And what did they do? They dressed up as Native Americans and attacked this party later these Mormons did. So, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:06 playbooks same family line. Like, I don't know. Oh, dude. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think people remember a lot of that, that they were dressed like Native Americans. They also had Native Americans go with them because of the fact of the second anointing, which is juicy, juicy, and I can spill it now or later. Well, shut up, but we'll let you do your presentation. No, no, no. I actually like it when people interrupt. You have to remember, like, as much as these slides are here to go over, this was my real life. So I can go in and out of this
Starting point is 00:17:39 presentation and the history we've learned like from clear back other than the stuff that they've hidden i mean i i went to seminary for all the years like four years of seminary that you go in high school like my whole life was the moron church so it's easy for me to go in and out of things wherever you want to go no problem what i'm saying is interrupt me anytime it's perfect i don't care so i think it's fun the listeners are like don't let him do it don't let him do. Let her talk. All right. You know, either way, I like it. Yeah. All right. It's all yours. But Joseph Smith, senior, is Joseph, the actual founder of the church's dad. And his parents' name and people are going to come at me for this, but I still think it's interesting. His dad's name Ozzyl, not Azel, but it's real close. Oh, yeah. And, you know, names are names and it's whatever. But you have to understand when you put it all together.
Starting point is 00:18:36 it makes a story. And this is his mother on the other side, the Mack line. And this is an actual excerpt from the church history library in Salt Lake City. And they're going to say this is twisted. Like anything that I bring that's real proof, they'll find some way to say it's not. But this is in your museum people. I didn't write this. Right. So it says this. And I think this is important to say she's talking to her friend and she's writing a letter and they have this copy of this letter. And it says, let not my reader suppose that because I shall pursue another topic for a season, that we stopped our labor and win it trying to win the faculty of a brack, drawing magic circles, or su-saying to the neglect of all kinds of business.
Starting point is 00:19:21 What? Sorcery. Right. So the faculty of a brack, we open up a can of worms that the Mormon church really doesn't like. You have to also understand at the time Mother Smith is writing this. she's lost almost all of her children. Brigham Young's, like, hijacked everything and is heading to Utah.
Starting point is 00:19:42 She's left pregnant alone with no way to support herself. And Mother Smith, yeah, she does a flex. Oh, don't worry. She's smart. She is no dumb farmer, this one. And she makes this book. She writes this whole book and basically hints to, but doesn't spill the tea on a bunch of things I'm going to tell you today. But she basically put the.
Starting point is 00:20:05 pressure on Brigham to be like, if you do not, take care of me and my remaining children and just bounce out, I promise you, I will come for you with this book. Now, what are their relationships, Lucy Mack and Brigham Young? So they were friends before, you know, all the martyring and death of everybody. I mean, this is like a seriously tragic situation. You know, Lucy Mac is the mother of Joseph Smith. Emma's pregnant. Emma's pregnant.
Starting point is 00:20:34 not Lucy, sorry. Emma's pregnant at this time, his wife. So you've got these two women living together with no man. The oldest man is like 11, which left the church in a problem because he was supposed to take over the church, but he's 11. So there was nobody to like come and take over. That was just the plan. Nobody expected him to die. And then there was kind of a battle over who was going to do it. And they have this great speech kind of competition and Sidney Rigden and Brigham Young go to this, but Sidney Rigden is a little bit under the weather at this time. And so he's not doing the best. And Joseph Smith supposedly comes through, not Sidney Riggin, through Brigham Young. And everybody says they saw him give a speech through Brigham Young that he like channeled
Starting point is 00:21:27 into his body. Who did this? This is Brigham Young. He gave his speech and everybody saw Joseph. Sorry about that. Who channeled through him? So Joseph Smith went into Brigham's body at the speech competition and all of the crowd said, it was him. It was our dead prophet. The dead prophet spoke through Brigham.
Starting point is 00:21:46 So the senior Joseph Smith. Junior, because he's the one that founded the church. Okay. Yes. Who's the 11th old? I'm sorry. I'm stupid. You're good.
Starting point is 00:21:56 So the mother that's writing this, she's married to. Joseph Smith, Sr. Okay. And then their son is the one who found it. But they're saying that the son channeled through Brigham Young? Because, yeah, everybody's dead at this point. The dad, the son, the brother, everybody. Hey, guys, real quick, I want to tell you about our good friends at Hymns.
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Starting point is 00:26:34 and there's just religion everywhere. And so he doesn't know what church to join, and he's very confused about this. And so he says that he went out into a grove to pray, which is super interesting when you know some magical things later. But a fit of darkness came over him. And he was saved basically by God, the Father, and the Son. They are separate people. They do not believe in the Trinity, as is the Holy Ghost. And so he is saved by this. And these literally God showed up to speak to him with his son, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And they said, don't join any of the churches. We're going to send you an angel. Maybe that's where the song came from. Send me an angel. No, I'm kidding. All right. Amen. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:20 So the angel comes. and his name is Maroni, not Maroni. Everybody says that and I think it's funny. But Maroni, also, you have to understand that this is a magical family, which is why I gave those little excerpts before showing that this is, they'll say it's folk magic. They'll cop to that much, but they're not going to tell you the absolute truth and they'll just put it there. So Maronai shows up and he is a dead person that is a dead Native American that you, used to be like a Native American brown person, but is now all white and delightsome. And, yep, it gets bad. And, oh, no, laugh away. Yeah, we're going to get us some weird stuff. So he says, look, I'm going to show you where these plates are and you're going to write this
Starting point is 00:28:09 book. Does this sound familiar? Because it sounds familiar to me, like every religion, every, like anybody's ever done. Like AWAS and Crowley and Parsons and, you know, those starlet women. after like right after that's Islam as well like you know absolutely asked and his wife was like I remember his teachings and they wrote the Quran yes and what happened to him he had a fit of darkness and he would fall down and then he would wake up until his you know they were nonwritten people but he would tell his
Starting point is 00:28:42 people that followed him around um all these weird things that he saw in this dream so much like this you know Joseph is not having a dream everybody says he's high on mushrooms? I mean, maybe. But I think more is going on here than meets the eye. That's an easy way to excuse things if you are not in a magical world. And we have to place ourselves back in time to this family and what they're doing. Did he summon this? And my take on it is, yes, he did. And I'll show you why I think so. He summoned an evil spirit, are you saying? Or just a spirit i think he thought much like dr john d that this was a benevolent angel you know but as we know you know with dr john d he says later uh i mean when the wife swapping starts happening maybe
Starting point is 00:29:33 this was a bad idea and they weren't so benevolent right always gets the wife swapping it always does yeah he's like oh i'm so tired i don't want to get divorced and is decreed that we shall switch or polygamy you could have more than one that's usually it's one of the two right it's always something and so pretty much same same situation um but he he gets this vision and for years and maronized on top of every single temple usually they're trying to change that a little so i won't say every single on most why would they be trying to change that because they're trying to fit in more as regular Christians, as well as they are now, if you get on your phone and look for a church near you, and usually they're marked with a cross for non-Mormon churches, and then the Mormon
Starting point is 00:30:24 churches are something else. Now, usually a Moronai statue. Now, they tried to change them all the crosses, which Mormons hate crosses, so that makes no sense. That's so interesting. Why do they get crosses? What's that about? Oh, they hate them, because they say they say they're a torture device And, you know, if you wear a cross to a Mormon church, be prepared to be scowled at almost the entire time. So what? They're removing Moronai and replacing it with what, then? Crosses. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing on there, but on the app, crosses.
Starting point is 00:30:57 So, yes. Yeah, but that's what she's saying. But not on top of the church. There is something to that. In the app. I mean, like, you know, it's an old Bill Hicks, Joe. Yeah, absolutely. About, you know, why are we wearing this cross when, you know, he died.
Starting point is 00:31:12 on it. That's like going up to Jackie O'Nassas with a little lapel of a shotgun rifle pendant. A rifle pendant and being like, you know, always thinking about it. Just thinking of John, Jackie. Just thinking of John. It's as a Catholic, so you're supposed to remember
Starting point is 00:31:29 what he did for you. So you look at you like, oh, that's what Jesus did for me. Like remember his sins. Well, there's also, when it comes to, you know, is there a dark occult, you know, teach you know influence on christianity and the notion that we kind of got to die yeah the cathars were
Starting point is 00:31:49 the ones that originally came up with this idea that bill hicks is spouting is that um they hated the cross too because of the same situation so i mean this is old and you know we see this time and time again with different factions of religion and and in the bible it does say those those who hate the cross you know they don't understand me it's not the perfect translation, but you get what I'm saying. So it's foolishness is what it says. Hold on. So it says that those who hate the cross or don't hate the cross?
Starting point is 00:32:21 Who hate the cross are foolish. So we should like the cross? I don't tell anybody what to do. But I, for one, don't want a moronai. Yeah, because I think he was a spirit, not, I mean, like, here's the thing. Angels are not people. And they've never lived here. And so, you know, he can't be an angel if he's a dead guy.
Starting point is 00:32:46 It's an impossibility. It makes no sense. Now, we have heard of angels taking other forms, though, right? Entertaining angels unawares, as they say. Right, right. But when you're channeling them, I think it gets in a weirder place. I agree. Especially a dead person, right?
Starting point is 00:32:59 Wasn't that the idea? Yeah. Yeah, he was a dead guy. And so, you know, for this, he prepared for years and years. And it doesn't say how. It just says, you know, he would show up. and try to get them on this day of the year every year for multiple years it's not like he got these when he was 14 he was in his 20s by the time he got them but in the midst of him trying to get these a lot of things are going on at home
Starting point is 00:33:27 they're you know doing divining rods i'm so sorry everybody when you say get these what are you saying the plates the plates the golden plates that are hidden because marona is going to give them to him but only once a year on the same day he tries and he's so far fallen short once I'm going to quote it people will come for me I don't know what else to tell you guys it is in your
Starting point is 00:33:52 religion that something like a toad turned into a man and then punched him in the face one time because he didn't do what he was told he couldn't get the plates that time I know and I just I mean I don't know what to tell people
Starting point is 00:34:08 you know it's it is what it is so yeah he couldn't get him that day so this happens time and time again but only once a year on the fall equinox very interesting funny enough
Starting point is 00:34:23 132 years before he actually does get the plates on the fall equinox is the same day Mary Easty was hung by his great great grandpa and so you know just saying and they do say her ghost is alive and well
Starting point is 00:34:39 and telling people she was innocent and hung for no reason. So we also know that the inquisition was widely done by alchemists at that time. And so we know these people have money. They're selectmen. They're important in the community. Did she know something and have a little dirt on great grandpa? Maybe so. But she didn't get to tell it because her neck broke.
Starting point is 00:35:03 So. Wow. So when you say select men, is that like just a public official or what? Yeah, it's like a mayor. Okay. All right. And so this whole thing keeps going on.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And so this year before he actually gets the plates, the angel makes him a deal and says, okay, you come back next year with your brother, Alvin. He's the oldest son. And I'll give him to you finally. Okay. So he says, all right. That's cool. Let's do that. So he has a problem.
Starting point is 00:35:33 A couple months later, Alvin dies of an accidental drug overdose for constipation. apparently. Oh my God. And so there's a problem there. What? And remember, how did he die again? Home he was constipated, bro. He got some drugs.
Starting point is 00:35:51 He was taking drugs for constipation and he died. The doctor accidentally. Oh, the doctor over. Yeah. He gave him an overdose of constipation medicine and he died. So literally, well, it probably wasn't. Daugia, right? No, it was the drugs, idiot.
Starting point is 00:36:11 No, but I mean, if it's an overdose, what's the drug that he overdosed on? Probably something that was mine trying to make him go, right? Yeah, I don't know if it worked because they were to live. Yeah, he got dehydrated. People died of diarrhea all the time in the old days. Yeah, all the time. Really? They did.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Bro. Yes. The Civil War. That's what dysentery is. Diarrhea themselves. That's what dysentery is. You got diarrhea? Yeah, you can't keep fluid in.
Starting point is 00:36:35 You got to keep fluids in. Wow. I'm zero days old when I learned I'm a nurse in my real job so there you go I get to give some nursing stuff in there I've been a nurse like 26 years this year awesome do you make some dancing TikToks stirs no dancing no I was actually kicked out of work almost because I didn't do that because you're smart I got in big trouble I was like do you want to read about this JAMA study, and they were like, yeah, you need to shut up or not come to work. Oh, my God, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:12 It was interesting, but that's okay. I work in psych now, and they're pretty good about stuff like that because they're like, no, we need you. So it's fine. Bring us a note. I was like, I got the asthma. I got the asthma. Don't touch me with that. I ain't nobody got time for this.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And I never gave one either. I just said it was against my, like. Religion. I would love to do that in California. They just won't let you. It's unbelievable. My son wants to be a nurse and it scares me, not because of the nursing aspect, but because of all of the, you know, things they're going to make him do. Yes. Isn't that crazy? Like when you walk into a medical office, a doctor's office and all the staff is wearing masks, it really makes you question if there are authorities on anything. well i mean they definitely didn't read the mask studies but i'm sure i'll get in trouble for that one too out here but i'm not on this show you won't right the jama studies are great yeah they're real medical papers right i want to watch superman last night and a black guy in head of me had a full-on
Starting point is 00:38:19 like one of those super duper uh like m whatever they were called oh my gosh an n95 i 95 mask and i was like in the movie theater as we were walking in just don't go to the movies. Like, come on. What are you doing? Some movies you've got to see in the movie theater. You just got to because, you know, visually. No, they shouldn't. If you're that afraid, like, did he remove it to eat popcorn?
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah. I thought they banned mask. Trump say no mask. Yeah, that's the non-linear warfare. Oh, we have to have masks. Now, you're not allowed to wear masks. Like, they don't want you to know if you're coming or going. He probably sold his shares.
Starting point is 00:39:00 But no. No, I don't know. All right, so we're back. The kid passed away from diarrhea. He ODs on diarrhea drugs. And that's a weird story to tell in heaven when they're asking how. What happened to you? Dident diarrhea.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Dicentary. And he's like, dysentery. Oh! They're like, oh! You know, they're like, damn, dude. They're like, don't bring your problems here. Don't bring it to heaven. Better be done.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Not to heaven. Don't soil. my cloud. Just there goes over there. That's what rain is, actually. Stop, Johnny. That's the angels. Angels have bladder problem.
Starting point is 00:39:47 So the kid is passed. And he is the oldest son. And they're quite older. Like he was really actually supporting the family. So this would have a bad, you know, a little clinch on the family because of this. So, yeah, it was unfortunate. But also, some weird stuff starts happening with this. And the family starts sleeping next to his grave.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And I'm not kidding. And so this gets weird. And they even run an article in the newspaper in the Palmyra. I'm pretty sure I have that right here. Yes. So Palmyra, September 25th, 1824, it's ran that they basically, I'm going to synopsis this of, look we're going to dig him up because you said we dug him up and we didn't dig him up
Starting point is 00:40:33 because we wouldn't do that but we're going to check on him because you guys said we did what the right man is that's correct so they dug him up yeah and he was dead yeah he was dead yeah long time like for a minute and so I think this was pre-gaming honestly like I think they're like okay we dig him up because you know the angel said to bring him but he's dead but maybe you know there's jokes about Alvin having a hand in Mormonism. I don't know. But we get into it, you know, some weirdness. And so they dig him up and then they put him back and then they sleep by his grave for like weeks. And remember, these are treasure diggers by trade. And it also makes you wonder with some
Starting point is 00:41:17 other crazy stories they have of their family that were persecuted for grave robbing. Hold on. In this family, there is people who've been persecuted for grave robbing? there is but they will say they're not because they will tell you that this guy and this is the flex we're going to go back to the mother and her flex and it's quite interesting and it has to do with the university at dartmouth and so there is a doctor that lucy max smith i'll put her picture back of why we're chatting there's a doctor she calls being very poor and she just happens to have you know this line straight to these people in harvard okay Okay. So I thought that was strange. But cousins on both sides. Look at how she's dressed right now. Sorry about the. Look at how she's dressed right now compared to women today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Oh, yeah. I mean, it could. Yeah, of course. But I mean, like, like, look at that, dude. Look at that. And look at now. It's like, um, believe. Yeah, it's a Hajib, right?
Starting point is 00:42:20 No. Yeah, it basically is. It couldn't be more different. It couldn't be 180. Yeah. She looks like she's in a sack or something. It's crazy. Okay, John.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Like, she's all tied up under the chin. Look at that. You can't see any skin except her face. Well, do you know why they used to wear head coverings? Do you guys know this little weirdness? Because they didn't want the angels to come down and want them. And so not just Mormons. Oh, then the angels must be having a field day today because it's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:42:49 And Johnny's still going back to our last conversation, which is totally fine. I'm okay with that. But it's like, I mean, dude, watch his YouTube videos and what's, being said today in pop culture it's like it is a it is a it is a race to the bottom i will say your algo is different than mine i've noticed that but yeah i agree yeah i agree as a woman as a woman i think you can tastefully dress you can do whatever you want but as for me you can tastefully dress in a nice manner and still look sexy like it's like andrew tate said and i know people have a problem with them but i think he kind of nailed it's like this is what women have
Starting point is 00:43:29 chosen and you this is their path and they because no nobody understands what their life is going like in 10 years or 15 years and the decisions you make and the doors you close down the line yes and it's like you don't want that on video forever and that's just no well it's also that like I think people just choose misery like it's going to be like you're going to get divorced you're going to single you're going to do this you're going to die broke you're going to die alone you're like this almost fatalism that that that this country seems to be just enamored with it's the instant gratification you talk about we always choose it you know if left to our own devices yeah i i completely agree okay go back sorry no you're good i i agree with a lot of what you're saying the reason why i called
Starting point is 00:44:20 my podcast unfiltered rise is i told you my brother passed away and we've had a lot of he passed away from accidental overdose. And it's okay. I don't tell this for sympathy because here's what I feel is that unfiltered is a warning because I'm not I'm not going to filter people in general. Doesn't mean I'm not going to
Starting point is 00:44:40 edit out like 30,000 ums in a show, but like other than that because I got called out on that. Well, this guy has to do with F words over here so he understands. Yeah, and I occasionally say them. And so, you know, here's the thing. That's your warning. And then rise
Starting point is 00:44:56 is rise above your situation because like my story of life and it isn't fair for everyone but I don't say it's for sympathy like I could have quit a long time ago like I've broken my back I've had a horrible back surgery that failed I've had cancer already um you know all these accidental deaths and the shunning of my family and one daughter that won't talk to me because her husband is very important please ask him um anyway I'm sorry to laugh at that but I mean no that's I said it. That was a nice cut. Yeah, he's a pilot.
Starting point is 00:45:29 I think about that all the time, man. I mean, I love my kids and they're constantly hugging me. But will there come a time where it's like, I love it more than you. I'm like, oh, that can't be not, that can't be easy. Seven years, seven years is going on. And she was my closest kid, like as far as, I mean, I grew up with her. I was 20 when I had her. So, you know, she's had a child.
Starting point is 00:45:50 She's gotten married. I'm not a part of any of that. And here's the thing. You choose what you do with your grief. like my brother died of an accidental overdose. So what did I do? I changed my career. And now I work with people that have overdose, people that have problems with addiction. Like, I'm there for it because I missed it for him. I can't change that, but I can help others. So you can do that. You know, you can change, you can change things for not just yourself for a lot of people. You know,
Starting point is 00:46:17 you can help others. And that is one thing that I do think the LDS Church really does do for most of there are people, unless you're apostate like me and then I'm going to outer darkness, but that's okay, because I'm not, because I'm saved. So, but that's, that's fine. And that's why I do this, because I want to expose the things that they hide, not because I want to harm them. And then people can choose, you know? Yeah, it's hard, man.
Starting point is 00:46:44 You know, I was on Tim Poole yesterday and we were basically just talking about, you know, in psychology, something I've, I thought I came up with, but apparently psychologists have been talking about forever is programming versus reality and when those two things crash people get physically hurt they physically hurts them and they lash out and they act in weird ways and you know it's the agent smith effect as well like you know this notion when you're presented with data that doesn't fit your narrative this agent smith comes in you and you kind of want to battle neo and that's kind of what what we see i mean it's Soxia you haven't talked to you. I mean, that makes me sad. I'm sorry. It's okay. No, no, no. It doesn't
Starting point is 00:47:29 make me sad. It makes me empowered to help others. And I think we should. I think you only rise above a certain level of energy if you do that. And I'm a Christian saying that, but also like a cultist have said that. Like, Steiner said that. Like other people understand this too. And it's, it should be, you know, just across the board. You know, we, we need to get back to that a little bit. And I will say that the LDS church does that for their active good members. As we get back to your presentation, I just want to ask you, you know, a big thing we discuss on this show a lot is the, is the mysticism of within religion and this kind of like, this kind of denial of that? What are your thoughts on that, on that? Like, was there, is there a mysticism? Are these two things?
Starting point is 00:48:24 Are they two totally separate things and they can't, you're either in one side or the other? I think that what they've done with religion is separate them absolutely. In the LDS faith, 110% when they became a corporation and now are like a piece of the government and CIA agents basically, other than the normal people, right? We're talking about the upper echelon here. They did that on purpose with the reformation of the church. And we'll talk about that too under Brigham. But this was a very magical church. I'm not necessarily saying you can't do magic. It comes with a lot of problems. Like if you're brave, I mean, hey, whatever, magic it up. But for me, no. But, you know, I think at least you should have the knowledge to choose. Because if you're going to go be a mason, let's say, you know that you're going to be doing some things even if you don't know what they are, right? You know. I mean, it's out there. you kind of know. But with the Mormon Church, they don't tell you anything.
Starting point is 00:49:27 And then you are a Mason, and I didn't even know what one was until I was, like, 40. And I was wearing Masonic underwear. Like, is that your magic underwear? My magical underwear. What makes it so magical? I'll show you when I actually have a picture of them today. So, yeah. And Masonic, how is it Masonic?
Starting point is 00:49:48 Was there like symbols? Or was it just? Oh, yeah. Yeah? No. know, and Joseph Smith to that point was a master mason. And so he was actually risen to a master mason in one day. That's not normal. And that means he knew some things. And I know he did. He was no dumb farmer. This is ridiculous. Do I think they were witches? Yeah, I do. And that's a heavy term. But I'm sorry, they were practicing or you can say they were practicing magic. And I don't think it was folk magic. And I'll show you guys why, because there's proof. So it gets into the weeds. I know they don't do that anymore, but they still have their ceremonies.
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Starting point is 00:52:45 about to that point right now. So the story of him actually receiving the, golden plates is kind of a dark one. And I'm going to pull up this picture right here. And this is a representation of what really is going on in the church. I'll never forget when I seen at that time, when I seen the South Park episode in Mormonism. And I was young. I was still in the church. And the church knew about it. And they were freaking out. And I was like, this is a lie. This is the biggest lie I've ever heard. This is stupid. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, great, later you find out, hmm, not so stupid.
Starting point is 00:53:21 And so on the day he receives the plates, finally, after years of preparation, which makes sense if this is his HGA, right, like a Holy Guardian angel, which is also in magic. But if that is the case, whichever case it may be, he had
Starting point is 00:53:37 to wait until he was purified during these times. He had to do all these special things and make sure he was prepared to talk to the angel. But also his neighbor, Willard Chase, gave account because Joseph gets in trouble. He has to go to court. And there's actually a court document here showing exactly what happened to him. And he gets arrested for treasure digging. And so we know absolutely that they were treasure digging. And he sucked at it. He's glass looking
Starting point is 00:54:06 and $2.68. Fine. And in this trial, there was a whole bunch of people that had to come and give a testimony. Now, people will just say Willard Chase is lying. because he hated him. Okay, fine, whatever. I doubt it because eventually their families are going to be linked together through another person. And I'll explain. But at this point,
Starting point is 00:54:30 this is Willard Chase's affidavit. And I'm sorry, but like when you're talking about affidavits at this time in magic, I don't know that you would want to volunteer anything magical weirdo like that. Because they're hanging people, you know? So he goes on the record saying that Joseph, Smith told him he had to borrow their all black horse and again borrowing the horse like why would
Starting point is 00:54:54 you borrow the horse from somebody that you hated and hated you that doesn't make any sense and at on the fall equinox okay he has to go out dressed in all black and go talk to this angel and that's exactly what he does and so I find it strange that they'll say oh that's not true they're just lying okay it's an affidavit in court. Does that mean you can't lie? No, but it gives it a little bit more validity. And so he's explaining, you know, he had to do this all in black, middle of the night. He shows up, apparently gets these golden plates, finally. And he's newly married at this time. And so instead of Alvin, who is dead, he takes his wife, she waits in the cart. And about not quite nine months later, a little bit like more than that, they have a baby. And their baby's extremely. disfigured and only lives moments and they name it Alvin the dead brother. So now we have a curious situation for anybody clued into like Faustine bargains or whatnot. We have the dad who lost his oldest son and now Joseph who has lost his oldest son. Do I think they made a deal?
Starting point is 00:56:08 I mean, stranger things have happened, right? So he gets these plates and all my life I've been told they were translated very studiously and by something called is that the same time where they mentioned that there was this white salamander or something like that is that the same story you're talking about i don't know if you've heard about that the white salamander story is a lie so the thing is is people will just say that they'll say oh that's a lie you know it was proven that this guy did this mark hoffman and he's in prison still and the problem with that is is he did a very very interesting thing. I honestly think they pre-gamed it. Whether he's guilty or not, I think it started with pre-gaming this, is he was a forger, and he was a very good forger. And he even forged documents
Starting point is 00:57:00 like for the government and all kinds of different things. And I'm not saying he's not a forger. But the salamander was not a salamander. It was a toad. And something like a toad came out and turned into a man and punched him. That is the story. But, if you know anything about the occult, it's far better to have a salamander than a toad, because a toad is a witch is familiar. And when you know about these things, there's also like stories about the spirit, Bayal, and that he's turned up in other stories, including on the confessionals, where they said there's been links to Bayal worship where first things turn from a toad
Starting point is 00:57:40 into a man. And I'm like, wait a minute, I know this story. And so this is old magic. And it's interesting. Can I prove any of that? I mean, no, it's magical. But now, anytime you bring up that story, people will say you're wrong. It was a salamander. Well, salamanders are a good sign. You know, they're a sign for the Templars. They're not forged by the fire. They're not burned. Like, this is actually a benevolent sign, whereas a toad is like a yucky witch is familiar. So I kind of feel like they changed it because they ran with it. They didn't even wait. They just threw it. it in all of their enzymes, which is the publication for the church magazine. They threw it up everywhere. Like, they didn't have to do that, but they did. So I found that very interesting. And it did change the way that story goes. Because now if you ask anyone, like, hey, do you remember when a toad punch Joseph Smith? They'll just laugh and say, that was just Mark Hoffman and he's in
Starting point is 00:58:35 prison now. So crazy. So crazy. So he's all in black. He's on a black horse. And what happened? And what happens next? He supposedly gets the plates and he takes them and they take quite some time to translate and I'll tell you how they translate them. You know, my whole life, I was told one particular story and that was this. Okay. They were had a partition. Many scribes helped, including Martin Harris, who helped fund, but his wife helped.
Starting point is 00:59:09 There were others to Sidney Rigdon, a bunch of people. But these big plates that Joseph has, he has. this breastplate of righteousness Yeram and Thumbum very much like also Jewish you know they have a breastplate of righteousness with the gyms on it and everything and yeah and these big
Starting point is 00:59:26 spectacles that they said were so big one of them could fit his whole face but he but he said it hurt his eyes and so you know the new narrative slowly came out well kind of slowly I don't know if it was slow and this is truly how they were actually done
Starting point is 00:59:45 done by blocking out all the light, putting his head in the hat, much like Nostradamus did with water and much like John D did with, well, Edward Kelly did it and John D transcribed. But either way. And he calls out these symbols, not a word, a symbol. And they write down the symbol and then later Joseph goes and translates it. And he says that they're, you know, like an angelic language, reformed Egyptian. And there is a little sample of that. language and it's very interesting when you compare it to other things much like an oaken yeah it gets weird and so you know we know yeah we know that the prophet has always denied this but this is the current prophet russel m nelson he is and i'm going to give you the actual um definition of the prophet in the lds church which is prophet seer and revelator of the church and they believe that this guy talks to God all the time, like, just like, hey, what's up? Like, he talks to him all the time. But he busts this, um, hat out of cold storage because we do have multiple tunnels all the way underneath Salt Lake City, but we also have like vaults and there's all these weird tunnels
Starting point is 01:00:58 underneath the temple and they're guarded by the Mormon CIA. And no, I'm not kidding, like with guns. Um, and so he busted out of the vault and does this photo op and I'm going, even as an ex-Mormant, I almost dropped my tea. I was, like, uh, what is he doing with the hat that's not supposed to exist? Like, they told us this was a lie that that he did it the other way with this breastplate of righteousness and blah, blah, blah, right? And so I was like, wait, what's happening here? That that doesn't seem right. And so yeah, he did it anyway. He didn't care. But that particular profit is a hundred years old right now. He is a skull and bones member. And he is a skull and bones member for the university.
Starting point is 01:01:44 of Utah. Did you know they had their own branch? No, I didn't know that. So in 1909, they formed their own branch of skull and bones. Here, I'll go back to that school and bones photo. And that's a real photo. They were formed by an anonymous alumni. And they came out and formed the Skull and Bone Society of the University of Utah. It's the only other one. And I've talked to Mark about this. And he's aware of them. But of course, they say they're not related. well they kind of are because here's the thing the two people that formed skull and bones right we know one's named taft right well there's a taft that's pretty prominent in the lDS church as well he actually was a prophet seer in revelator esra taft benson and then you know huntington is also a
Starting point is 01:02:39 really important name in Mormonism it's a very old name of Mormonism So there's a lot of people that have linked these names through descendants Simon Huntington, 1633, of the Taft family to Ezraff Benson. Can I prove it? Only with genealogy stuff, but I'm definitely working on it. So they do have not scroll and key. They have owl, like the animal owl in key. and it's very interesting that they basically admitted the prophet was in it. He actually admitted it in his own biography.
Starting point is 01:03:20 So he's a surgeon. That the prophet was in skull and bones. The one at University of Utah, yes, and Alan Key and Phi Beta or Sigma Chi. That's so crazy. Imagine if you were in a fraternity with Jesus. Right? You're like, I know Jesus way back in the day. This is my pledge class.
Starting point is 01:03:42 He wasn't doing any of this stuff. You guys hazed them? It's set up. You imagine a hazing Jesus. We would run out of beer and he would just come up with it out of nowhere. It was crazy. He hated doing it, but we told him it's the only way we joined the fraternity. Yeah, you can only come if you make the line or beer, whichever, right?
Starting point is 01:03:59 But the weird thing is, is that, you know, they actually had this sanctioned. I mean, these members that came out were alumni of the original Yale. skull and bones. And there is another tie to the Smith there as well. So, and I can probably just get into that now because it's interesting. So the flex that Lucy Smith put on old Brigham was this. When Joseph was young, he got something called typhoid fever. He got really, really sick, and it went in his leg, and he got osteomyelitis of his leg. And so that was very unfortunate. And back then, you know, they just lopped everything off, you know. And, and a one-legged farmer isn't going to do too well.
Starting point is 01:04:42 That's just rough. So I think I had a picture of it, but maybe I don't. So she called some help from Dr. Nathan Smith, and he was out at Dartmouth College with also the very first professor of Dartmouth. This is Morris College. This is a branch off. Let me make sure people know that. Moore's College was set up to make basically priests or mission.
Starting point is 01:05:09 for the Native Americans. They call it Moore's Indian School. Well, Dr. Nathan Smith, she refers to him in her writings and journals as Dr. Nathan. And she never says anything about Smith, but I don't think you'd forget your own last name. Like that seems a little myth. And so she puts that out there. And the interesting thing is, like I said, Dr. Nathan Smith was chased out of his town for digging people up and actually prosecuted and people can look this up. He was cousins with both Joseph Smith's mother and father on both sides. Distant cousin for sure, but it was connected. And so she knew this and she knew he was known as the grave digger. She knew he was ran out of town. And also he ends up at Yale and he founded their medical school. He is the founder of Yale Medical
Starting point is 01:06:08 School. Smith? Dr. Nathan Smith. So the guy who founded Yale is also connected to the Mormon church? The medical school part. Great bigger. And also the very first professor of Moore's College, Moore's Indian School, which is inside of Dartmouth itself, where Joseph Smith's brother went to school, Hiram.
Starting point is 01:06:34 And all of these people are going to school there. professor johnny smith is their distant cousin he's also the rare book stealer in town he has a lot of really weird old books like the scot of chronic on and all kinds of fun books but doctor professor johnny smith distant cousin is teaching theology there and he's also a professor of languages and what was joseph smith studying like hebrew and stuff so no they weren't dumb farmers um hiram would have finished his education if it weren't for Dr. Smith digging people up because it ruined everything and then they ran him out of town. So he was a year away from it. And the mother's nephew did graduate from that program and he's a Mac. And this also gets into like how many of these
Starting point is 01:07:25 masters of mankind, these giant, um, these giant names in pop culture, culture, society. always have some shady background before they become huge. I mean, even Snoop Dog was on trial for murder and got off when they had them dead the rights. And here we are. He's a grave digger. And then his family founds medical school at Yale and Mormonism. That's crazy to me. And for anybody that wants to check my facts, you can check out the book, The Lucy Code.
Starting point is 01:07:59 And you guys can look and see for yourself. And just so everybody knows, like, I even have the cover. cousins that they were related through, which I'll find. But there's another connection as well. So not only was Hiram Smith going to this school, Moore's Indian College inside of Dartmouth, they're living on campus. Okay. They're living at the trustees house. And so Joseph Smith and his whole family is living there. And I mean, so they definitely know them. And these people that were the diggers, remember I said they were grave diggers. Guess what they were called?
Starting point is 01:08:36 What? Resurrectionists. And that's going to be important. Put it in your back pocket for when we get to baptizing the dead. But you look at the Prophet Muhammad. He's connected to the royal family. Right. The first royal of Saudi Arabia, a British spy.
Starting point is 01:08:55 The Shah and the guy they want to replace the leader of Iran right now with, they're both British royalty. there's some royalty going to come up here too oh that's crazy so yep uh this gets interesting and not only royalty but people are going to want to look at the society of cincinnati j j vans has showed me a whole bunch about that he's really good at like explaining it but he does all the connections to the society of cincinnati which is the secret society that every single president we've had has belonged to so wow yeah it gets weird and it's also passed down and not only have the president's been, but some of the wives as well,
Starting point is 01:09:36 like Jackie. So Black Jack Bouvier was a member of the Society of the Cincinnati. These families don't end up together on accident. This isn't some love story. Like, no. This is crazy. So this is,
Starting point is 01:09:50 you remember how I told you how Willard Chase spoke in his affidavit about, you know, dressing all in black? He also spoke about one other time when he went treasure digging with the SNS. And this is the diaries. diagram of what happened
Starting point is 01:10:03 when he did. And the only part they left out is they did slaughter their fattest black sheep and bleed it all over the circle as well. As one does. They didn't find. As you do. Yeah, as one does. For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 01:10:19 So, these sigils are important when we're going to get to what kind of magic they are practicing and the reason why it's even important. But it definitely is. Because we've got all these connections to these people and we've got, you know, a magic hat. We've got a searstone.
Starting point is 01:10:35 This searstone, they say, is the most important one. I doubt it because there's a ton of pictures of this one. They've admitted it now. Apparently you stole it from Willard Chase as well, which is a funny joke is that Mormonism is built upon a stolen rock. But whatever. He found a white one as well. And there's only ever been an author's rendition of it.
Starting point is 01:10:57 This green one, however, is interesting. For those that might not believe the Nathan's Smith story that I said, the doctor that saved his leg, Dr. Nathan Smith, who saw Joseph over 22 times to heal the osteomyelitis and chip away at the bone. He saw him a lot. And that was actually his mom's idea because she was a lay midwife and she was a healer. But this rock was owned by the neighbor, Willard Chase's sister, Sally Chase. Well, Sally Chase saw that little doctor over there and they got married. So this gets even better. Oh, so the guy that accuses him of stealing here.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Her sister marries his doctor. But apparently Willard hates him, but they're family now. So distant, of course. But they are family. So interesting, dude. It's so crazy. It's all connected. All connected.
Starting point is 01:11:50 This is the white one that they won't let out of the vault. They just draw pictures of it. This is the Toad story. And then we get into the parchment. which is, I think, the most important part of this presentation. The Smith Family Magical Relics and D. Michael Quinn's book, he exposes a lot of this. He actually got excommunicated for it. People say, no, he didn't because he got gay.
Starting point is 01:12:15 That too. Because he caught the gays. He got the gay. Yeah. But also, he exposed the church and he was supposed to do a job for the church and help them. And then it didn't go well because that book didn't go over. so great. I often wonder if that was revelation of the method, but whatever.
Starting point is 01:12:34 It's been going around. Maybe they knew. Yeah. It's been going around. It's been going about. It's contagious. We're a mask. Stay inside. Where are you wearing the mask? That's the question. The Jupiter
Starting point is 01:12:46 talisman is the one thing, the one relics they cannot dispute because they're going to tell you a bunch of stuff and I'll tell you what, like, about the rest of these relics. But this Jupiter talisman is actually identified as Joseph's even though, like, by his birth chart and everything, we would already know that.
Starting point is 01:13:04 But just in case, people can see that she actually, she, like, went and identified it and said it was most prized possession and she wanted it back because he died. So she got it back and it ended up in a museum and people can go look at that. But this right here, if you look at this one, this is really important. This is going to lead us a place. And that's what happened to me is it led me here. And then I was like, this is no folk magic. Because this is the third pentacle of Jupiter in the greater and lesser keys of Solomon. So when we talk about the greater and lesser keys of Solomon, if you're familiar with the story about how, you know, his ring controls demons and all the 72 demons and the Gawasian, you're familiar with all that fun stuff.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Yeah. Isn't that where he interviewed all the demons on what they, what they hated, what they didn't hate? Is that what we're talking about here? Yep, got all their names and put them in a book and then the book got published. And so that's pretty much how the greater and lesser keys of Solomon came to be. But everybody will say, look, he just carried this, you know, talisman around because people were cursing him. And he needed to protect himself. That's not what it says.
Starting point is 01:14:16 So it says, this defendeth and protecteth those who invoke and cause the spirits to come. And when they appear, show this unto them and they will obey. Oh, well. that changes it yeah there's no mixing words there this is what it is and when we get into it's Hebrew yeah it's Hebrew right it is and there's other pictures that are up close
Starting point is 01:14:42 with like full descriptions too that I'm going to show you but this isn't a tame for anybody that does magic you know what that is for those that don't this is a ceremonial dagger and this also has seals and sigils upon it and I'll show you what they are So one side shows the seal of Mars, and the other side shows Adonai, Scorpio, and the intelligence of Mars. Now, just because we see the tetragrammaton or names of Jehovah or Adonite or all that, it doesn't necessarily always mean it's Christian. Was it? I don't know what his intentions were, but he's definitely summoning things, and I think that's a bad plan. But a lot of times they'll chuck every name of God at this stuff to try and like just cover all their bases. So, yeah, it's going to get weirder.
Starting point is 01:15:31 So this is the Smith family dagger, and it's a ceremonial dagger. So it has a prayer upon it. So when they slaughter, if they do use it, a lot of times it's just ceremonial. But it has been said that they did use it for a couple of the treasure digging things that they did. So it's a prayer upon it. Then they don't have to stop, I guess, and say anything. And all of these things are interesting because, remember, they're only supposed to like have the Bible and he has no way to learn anything occultic, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Okay, well, these civils I'm showing you either come from the Magus, okay, or Sibley's book of witchcraft. There's only a few places that can come from at that time. So, I mean, I'm not saying he did, but also remember his cousin is the rare book stealer. I mean, makes sense. But they'll say it doesn't make sense and that I'm full of it. They also talk about his Masonic. background. And I know he was a Mason, but I don't think it was the Scottish right. So Paranoid American and I have talked about this and about the timeframes that fit together or not in this. And he doesn't think that it would be very new, okay, newly organized the Scottish right when Joseph is coming up. But something older than that is organized at this time. And that
Starting point is 01:16:51 is Martinists. And if you don't know what Martinism is, whoa, that went fast. is a magical order, and the Martinus order is one that actually is a practicing magical order. And funny enough, they invoke spirits to come in spring and in fall on the equinox. Well, huh, that sounds like Marone. And they're one of the few orders that are actually practicing and not just talking about or learning about magic. Are they still around? Uh-huh. Yeah, Ike Baker's one. He says he is. And now, is that above Freemasonry? It's just a little bit different because they actually practice.
Starting point is 01:17:34 They talk to angels and, you know, invoke spirits and different things. But I'm not, I'm no expert on it. I've done a show on this, on the Martinist Order. I could do 30 more shows and never be to the end of that tunnel. What is your thoughts on the star, David? Do you think it's Brehm fan? Yes, it is. And you'll see that a lot with,
Starting point is 01:17:56 the Mormonism stuff too. You're going to see it here in about one second when I show you these sigils. So these are the sigils that were found on the body or in the cell when they died at Carthage together, the brother, Joseph, and Hiram. They are going to tell you that these are hyrums. They're going to say it makes much more sense. He had the education, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. The problem is, astrologically, when you break these down, it doesn't work. It doesn't fit with his birthday.
Starting point is 01:18:28 It doesn't fit with, like, everything that you do in magic fits with everything else. Like, it has to be. And so, anybody that does Kabbalah or anything like this, they know that. And so when we look at this, this is specific, not this particular one, but the others, to Joseph. So either way, the family's into some things. And this isn't just considered folk magic. We're talking about Solomonic magic. And solomonic magic practitioners, even today, it's one of the few magical orders that people mess with unless you really know what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:19:08 And so it can be really dangerous. Yeah. So they say, I don't want to talk to anything else. That's here with me. I'm good. I didn't try. But if you see how this spirals in, see how it spirals into that. This is charging the sigil because it's bringing the energy from above down into the sigil. And they hate when we do this to them and they, meaning angels or demons or whatever they're calling at that point, because it's forcing. It's a forceful situation. Whereas this one, this is Jubanlades, this one is open, which means there's a working relationship with this spirit and the person that wrote this parchment.
Starting point is 01:19:53 So, Knights Templar Cross, we're going to get in Meravengeian bloodlines, we're going to get into a bunch of stuff. But all of this is really important. Like, wow, I wished it would quit doing that. I don't know why. Okay, I guess we're going to go through the whole thing. Here we go. Wow. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:11 And when we talk about all these different things, you know, they are messing with stuff that is definitely magical in nature and for a reason. And these are the symbols that are on the second parchment, which is the holiness to the Lord parchment. And that particular parchment is on, the holiness to the Lord's statement is on every single Mormon temple. And so is the big dipper. There are pentacles and pentagrams that are inverted that I can show you on some of the older temples, based on a can't grips, beehives. I mean, Utah is the Beehive State. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:49 So this is Raphael. these are multiple. I mean, this is a whole mess of things. The breakdowns here at the bottom, but all of this comes from specifically witchcraft books, Magus, officium, spiritum.
Starting point is 01:21:06 I mean, there's just no other way to say it. I mean, it is what it is. So he's studying something. That's for sure. This like gets in everything Adam Green talks about, like, how deep do you go do you find like you find
Starting point is 01:21:22 like Hebrew yes yep and he was studying with a Jewish person and they had converted and yes there is a lot of Kabbalistic things also the temple ceremony which we're going to get into here in a minute if you put
Starting point is 01:21:38 into Grock what is the closest thing to the temple ceremony for the Mormon church it will tell you Babylonian temple ceremony so there's that wow So people can try that one.
Starting point is 01:21:53 It's fun. I did. Wow. Wow. So I want to tell people like when you look at the changes of the church because they're going to change rapidly like at a later point and all magic will be taken away from this church. But when you talk Mormon money magic, it gets real interesting. So. you know there's a Mormon behind almost every like really famous rich person like Howard Hughes or
Starting point is 01:22:24 how about we do Elon Musk. Do you know Elon Musk's number one money man? Who? Jared Bertchall and he's a Mormon. He doesn't have the qualifications to have that job. Nevertheless, he has it and they met at the boring company digging tunnels. So what's super interesting is during the Q, the Q craze, right? And again, Operation Trust, they're going to tell you what's going on because they're trying to pacify you. They're like, hey, dude, this is what's going on. Just trust us. We're going to clean it up, right? There was a lot of talk about Trump going
Starting point is 01:22:58 to basically the Mormon courts to get a lot of things done because they worked outside the system. That was a big discussion. He was going to go to Muslims. I wasn't. I wasn't. going to go here, but I know you because I've heard you talk about the Federal Reserve before
Starting point is 01:23:21 and go crazy. So I thought I would bring this. So I have to tell you about this guy. And I just found this today. So this is my one deep dive on it. It's going to have a lot more coming. But that doesn't surprise me knowing this. So there is a man called William, William Godbey, and he came from England. And he was considered a Robert Owen Mormon, who was the modern day communism guy that trained Karl Marx. Okay. And so- Whoa, coincidence. Right. Robert Owen is that man. And William Godby becomes, um, lives here in Utah and, and comes over and he's a Mormon now too. He was a convert. But God be wanted to change the way Mormonism was because they are they used to be and the polygamous sex still are very separated from the world. They always say be in the world, not of it, make your own food, do your own thing. Don't purchase things from them like bleed the beast. Like that's a real thing. Like you want to go bleed the beast of the system. So if you have 15 wives, you know, you've got one that's really married to you. So go collect, you know, assistance for the other 14 wives and say, you're single moms, you know, and get a whole bunch of money.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Whoa. They don't pay taxes. Yeah. So, and I know a lot of this stuff about the polygamy sect, at least for the Warren Jeff's cult. You know who Warren Jeff is. So my sister married his nephew. Oh. Weird shit happens when you're in Utah. I'll say that much. But weird shit happens everywhere. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:05 That's the problem. We label it weird when it's a lot more normal. meaning it's a lot more prevalent than people want to believe. Oh yeah. And he talked about, I'm sorry, he cut out. We just demonize it because we want to control people. Well, they also want to hide things.
Starting point is 01:25:27 And if you demonize it and then pretend like you hate it, kind of like the guy that hung the witch, right? The great, great grandpa. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, 100. Or this guy right now that was like telling you. everybody we're going to put Bibles in every single school and then it finds out he's got a bunch of naked chicks on his computer
Starting point is 01:25:45 which I don't really give a shit about but it's like the you know it's like again going back to the Thomas Sol quote which I'm paraphrasing but it's like in a world in the society of the man's perfection only liars can thrive you know I mean that's just the truth I mean we just keep wanting heroes yeah it's it's just not
Starting point is 01:26:08 it's just not okay to put a man right like as an idol because it's always going to fail you and when I say man I can make interchangeable with a woman it doesn't matter they have free will and they they're they're fallible well why did Jesus get killed anyways because he wasn't good enough because they wanted a king that's what they wanted they didn't want that they didn't want a savior they want a king oh that's so that's a great point It's sad, you know, and we see this time and time again with every religion, whether it starts from benevolence or not, eventually it gets corrupt, which is why I don't belong to a religion anymore.
Starting point is 01:26:48 I just believe in God. That's a big thing I'm into as well. It's just like I respect everybody's religion. I want them, you know, as I do a couple shows on how weird they are, but I do respect people's religions. I just say that, like, you know, everything is, everything is there a hidden hand? and the answer is yes there's always a hidden hand
Starting point is 01:27:12 and like you can't ignore the hidden hand because it's corrupting everything well and the sad part is this isn't even about their religion anymore because they took it all away and like if they came out tomorrow and they're like you know what
Starting point is 01:27:25 we're a Harry Potter order with like wands and stuff and we do this I'd be like hey cool I'll shut up now because you're lying to everyone and we are doing things to charge the house remember what I said about that sigil yeah we're going to get into that when I show you why they do these temple ceremonies and people don't know why they do them they just do them because they're going to go to heaven but what does that have to do with a masonic handshake and a bunch of dead people well I don't know but like here it is and so you know we don't ask those questions and especially if you're born into it because you know that your grandma did it you know that your grandma's and you just do you just do that and so you know and I feel bad because what they do is they say we don't have
Starting point is 01:28:07 secrets. A bunch of people are going to comment on the stuff I'm going to show you and they're going to say, it's sacred. It's not secret. And then they'll say, you know what, Sam, you can go through at Temple right now. You can go through one that hasn't been dedicated yet. You can, but they're not going to be doing ceremonies at that time. Like, get real. Like, you guys are still hiding stuff and you're changing it all the time. And here's the thing. The polygamous refuse. They refuse to change anything. And yet the LDS, the mainstream, change it all the time. Like my great grandma, when she went through, she was scrubbed naked in a bathtub with oil. And I'm going to show you the point where that happened with me, but just touching with a poncho. And I'm just like, okay, you're, if this is really
Starting point is 01:28:50 from God, because you're saying these are actual sacred rights from God and you're changing them? Well, maybe you have some answering to do anyway. The plumagous aspect. What are the women of Utah? What do they think about that? Well, most of us are mainstream now and they don't agree with it. But there is a lot of sections of Mormonism. Like, of course, with Warren Jeffs, you know, because they look like Little House on the Prairie. Like, you're going to
Starting point is 01:29:24 see them at Maverick with their big 15 passenger vans and 20 women get out with the coolest braids you've ever seen because they don't ever cut their hair because back to Templar and stuff like that, they're going to wash Jesus's feet one day with their hair. And so if you got short hair polygamous, she did something bad. But I'm saying there's a lot of other ones, you know, like the Kingston's, like Kingson, Kingston, they look normal and they just wear long-sleeved shirts. Okay. and long seat pants, but they look pretty normal. No makeup, but still long hair.
Starting point is 01:30:01 I've seen a few with short, even with the Kingston's, and they're one of the rare, like, sex of Mormonism, pligamy that still do, well, they think they're keeping their bloodlines pure. So they have babies with their nieces and stuff. And it got to be such a problem that they hired a geneticist because they're mad rich, right? They're super rich. And they give money to, like, I'm not going to. say his name, but I was going to, like from Mexico, Mormons that might have ran for presidential
Starting point is 01:30:33 campaigns once. And they give people money that are like that. And so people leave them alone. And they don't prosecute them, even though it's illegal to marry underage people and your cousin. Is that family connected to that one family that the cartel killed in a couple years ago? I don't know if you remember this Mormon family. Oh, I remember. I've got notes on this. Just in case this came today you better believe it they settled chihuahua mexico you better believe it his great grandpa did you you guys you guys Mormonism settled in mexico and then the americans just moved the border they're like nah and they were too lazy to move they're like we're staying here because they're like do we set up shop we're in mexico we're crushing it now we're in the united states
Starting point is 01:31:21 i mean you might know i mean i should maybe know is mexico are you allowed to have more than one wives, even if it's religious, or is that anti? I'm sure there's places. Here's the thing. They settled, so the particular family that we're discussing, and I think we all know who we're discussing, right? He once ran for the president of the United States. I'm just going to say his name. Why can't we say Mitt Romney, right? Yeah, I just didn't want to get thrown off. So yes, that is the Romney family. And the Romney family helps settle parts of Chihuahua due to the 1880s polygamy, ban and so their dad was like nah bro i'm not giving up my wives and so there's also other families that went out there and settled and they actually formed like a complete issue with each other
Starting point is 01:32:06 they're like warring factions of these people right and then you get into the lebarans and he is called the charles manson of mormonism because he's so crazy that yes they will just open fire on each other and he even killed his own brother so field and mccoy's dude that's what this Yes. Yes, 100%. It is. They started different factions of the same church. Like, he called his the Church of the Lamb of God. He had 13 wives and 51 kids. He was born in 1925. And the funny thing is, is when you start talking about these people, like, it still runs into today. Like, you know, when you talk about the LeBarrans, okay, you ever watch sister wives? Yeah. Well, Christine is from this family. That is her grandpa. So, you know, when we're talking about this stuff, you know, he still ran everything from prison. He got arrested for the four o'clock murders.
Starting point is 01:33:05 And they were completely involved in that drug shootout that happened. Yes. So. Wow. And as far as Romney goes, he worked for Bain Capital. He worked with one of the most famous people from the Howard Hughes situation. and his son Robert gay and he was like
Starting point is 01:33:28 Was his last name gay or was he gay? No, his last name is actually gay. You know what makes me laugh the most in Mormonism? I can't believe people keep that last name. Can we change it? Gason or something like that? Jason, a little better.
Starting point is 01:33:42 A little better. Not that much better. When you go to church, they call him brother gay. Brother gay. Brother gay. You know he loved school. Yeah, it's so bad. And I mean, we're talking about, you know, they work together tight and they were doing all these microloans. And then what they would do is they would get these big companies to like go in with this loan and get all these investors, right? And then they would take over the company. And then the company would be like, oh, we can't pay it kind of like a check loan. Basically, they're the check loaners of like the business world. But guess who one of their first investors were? Who?
Starting point is 01:34:23 Robert Maxwell. Yep. Wow. So it gets weird all over the place. And when the Bain Capital situation was going on, this Robert Gay was in the quorum of the 70, which is super important. And actually, after everything happened, because his 14-year-old daughter in 1996 went missing because she went bat-shick crazy, probably because there was a lot of accusations there. going to go into that because they're just accusations. Yeah. She took off on a drug bender and it looked really bad on the church. And so they parted ways and gave moved away from that. Whereas
Starting point is 01:35:05 Romney went ahead and was like forming groups in El Salvador of drug dealers with like the DeSolo family and they're disguising it as coffee and it's just a whole thing. Like there's so much like it gets yeah it gets bad so they basically split their ways because the daughter went crazy and they had to close it down for a while and bain took over companies with existing loans and used the bank takeovers like i said until that happened and then he gets close with like the carlyle group and the bin ladens oh yeah i mean that's the whole story the bin lans were part of the nine the Carlisle group, and the night before 9-11, they give them an award. Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:52 I mean, dude, I mean, you can't write this. This would be thrown out in the Hollywood script going, nobody would believe that. Right. And nobody does. They say I'm mentally imbalanced. Yeah, that's true. I'm telling lies. And I'm like, look, I didn't even want to know most of this stuff.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Like, most of my deep dives are like this. Hey, did you know about this thing? and I'm like, that's a lie. That's a lie. And then I go look it up and then I go down a rabbit trail and it's just bad and down the hole I go. And it's just, you know, you're just trying, like at first, honestly, I was just trying to prove everybody wrong.
Starting point is 01:36:27 It just all ends with occult and pedophilia. Yes. Yeah. Well, and secret societies because all of them infiltrate all of them. Like you have to know, there's like specific secret societies here that, you know, like the Alta Club and all these. these different clubs that directly tie in to the Federal Reserve, like I was telling you, and that guy, the communistic William Godby, he's the one that was the godfather to Heber
Starting point is 01:36:58 J. Grant, and his mother worked for Heber J. Grant. And Grant is the one that said he would give anything, if they would, like, promise anything, period to Governor Lynch to start a Federal Reserve branch here in Utah. And so they did. And this is where things I say become very it's a new church then. It's a church of money
Starting point is 01:37:25 and CIA people. It's so deep, dude. It is so fucking deep. So that guy that I told you about this Hebrew J. Grant, he's young at this time and they get the Federal Reserve here. But guess what? Later, he becomes the Prophet
Starting point is 01:37:43 Seer and Revelator and president of the church. So that's the highest position you can get. They just install people. Yes, they do. And they are chosen. And if you want me to prove that, like there's Rotary Club stuff, there's John Birch Society stuff,
Starting point is 01:38:02 there's Nazis, Perman Dex goes into them. Like, so many things. When I started looking, I just was like, this is like, you're right. And I think the day that, I found it out.
Starting point is 01:38:14 I kind of had like a panic attack. And I'm trying to tell my husband, I'm like trying to unload all this on him. And he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, right? He's like, I mean, I'm an ex-Morman, but are you okay? Like, do you need to see a doctor? Like, what is happening? And I'm like, no. And you're trying to tell him about the Nazis?
Starting point is 01:38:33 I was telling him about the Nazis and Bain and the John Birch Society and racism and blah, blah, blah. And he knew some of it, but not all of the things. And he's like, are you. okay and I'm like no it's everybody like it's everybody and the maxwells and o nassas because i do this whole thing on the mormon mafia and i was like it's never going to stop like i've already done four installments of that series on my on my channel and they're hours long and most of the stuff people are like she's just full of shit and i'm like i wished i was full of shit yeah i wish i was wrong it'd be a better place i mean it makes you sad kind of because you grow up thinking it's different you know
Starting point is 01:39:12 I watched this video on narcissism the other day, and I'm not saying what is right and what is wrong, but they're talking about the demiurge, right? You know, you had this, like, kind of like this, this, I don't know how to describe them, basically this table of gods. Yeah, I study narcissism bunches. These tables of gods, and one of them, and this is the joke, and I need to work it into my act for Timphal Hat crowds. but basically Sophia was the feminine energy of the universe. And like, the joke is that she was the first feminist.
Starting point is 01:39:49 And she's like, I don't need a man, right? And she's like, I'm going to make my own, I'm going to create my own life. And she creates the Demiurge and instantly realized she made a mistake. Sounds like single mother. Made a mistake, right? And, but the Demiurge doesn't know about the table of God, like the panel. the higher committee of gods thinks he is God and create according to narcissism creates the material world and the archons to manage it and so Sophia gives divine spark to the the the the the people
Starting point is 01:40:29 to the basically the spirits that were trapped in this thing that the the the demerge created and the demi urge hated it so much his whole goal has been to basically eliminate the divine spark and I don't know if that's right or wrong but man that lines up with the world we live in right now right like like just these mass murders that are happening war all that stuff well they're always trying to say I mean I think it all goes back to Babylon to be honest like look at every time they do this to people they're always brown people usually like I think that you know Hitler if you know about what he was doing. I mean, the eye teeth measuring, a whole bunch of other things, the occultism, right?
Starting point is 01:41:16 They're trying to make a super race and they think, you know, there's fallen angel blood. And I'm not against that thought. I actually entertain it a lot. But I just wonder, like, is this the sacrifice of the real Adam? Right? Because they say Adam is from the dirt and therefore his name Adam means ready of the earth. And so it makes you wonder. Like, are we just going back to like bail sacrifices here with this stuff? I think 100% if you look at the, excuse me, if you look at the, the death of all those kids in Texas and the flood, I mean, they're all Christians. I mean, that seems like a giant sacrifice.
Starting point is 01:41:59 There was a lot of political people involved in that one too. You know, I mean, that's what they do. You know, I was watching this video from the, I forget the name of the website I did some premium content on it but you know they were just basically saying the Romanovs were one of the
Starting point is 01:42:19 13 families of Russia and they used war as sacrifice I mean it fits like honestly we know that you know a lot of these things are pure sacrifice to whatever God they believe I mean it wouldn't surprise
Starting point is 01:42:36 me not a bit it's sad yeah for sure for sure 100% the children of Hawaii that are missing that's a sacrifice man it's so crazy dude it is so crazy you think i mean on another no i mean Hawaii's in trouble right now the whole tsunami yeah i wonder if that's a whole another another tsunami like there's tsunamis come you're like okay where am i going what am i doing just if it comes let's just wrap it up you're getting a boat that's the only thing you're ready to go yeah i mean i i dream sometimes just learn to do a sub submarine and just putting it in the backyard and when like the big flood comes well then you got
Starting point is 01:43:14 to call just lane so she can teach you to drive it as long as you're far enough that's just a little it's just a little it's nothing in the ocean it's just once it comes to land it starts to get pushed up and then it goes yeah that's where you get in trouble but if you get a boat and you just get out far i mean like a little bit you're fine to johnny's point the people that were in hawaii at the time that this was announced it was funny they left some cruisers there they're like yo we got to go we got to get out off a land so they went out to the middle of the ocean oh i see oh like a cruise shipped it they left a bunch of people there they went out like that peace out we're safe that's why it's bad yeah but no i think it's true i do like we know weather manipulation is the
Starting point is 01:43:57 thing and that's not just because we're on tinfoil hat it's real like if you google that right now on normal google it will tell you so and so you know this has always been magic in my mind i see so much that's alchemy and magic and occult will quote unquote occult like I don't know what else you can call it you know practices and I'm not saying all magicians are evil but a lot of
Starting point is 01:44:21 them are like they are I mean their agenda yeah just they worship these fallen angels and these archons stop listening to us dude it heard archangel yeah I heard fallen angels
Starting point is 01:44:39 It's like, I got to listen. I got to tell Mark Zuckerberg. I got to tell him. They're talking about me. You know, speaking of fallen angels, or angels in general, Joseph, when he would refer to himself, which is why I think he actually did speak to something, he started referring to himself as Barakiao. She is, dude.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Very interesting when you look into things like that. Do you know the God of Mormonism, his name is Elohim? And people will say, well, that's just an old Hebrew name of God. I'm like, yeah, do your research, though, because it's also a name of multiple gods or anything outside of the realm of existence of reality where we supposedly are. And it could be a fallen angel, a regular angel, a spirit, God. It could be a lot of things. What do you think the true name of God is or the true name of Jesus?
Starting point is 01:45:30 They said the true name of God, the father, because they don't believe it's a separate person, is Elohim. They also don't, I'm going to say this delicately. They also say and have quoted in multiple conferences by prophets that Jesus was created just like any other man with passions and pleasure. Damn, dog. So we're not talking about Virgin Mary. You're just shooting everybody. And they're going to come for me for that one too. Oh, she, they never said that.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Yes, they did. Look it up in. General conference, it has been said many times, but anything that the Mormon church has like that, that's like, oh, I wish that prophet didn't say that. They'll do a couple things. They'll first say, well, Heidi, the prophet is just a man. Right. But he's talking to God. Okay, wait. When he's the prophet, he's talking to God and those are God's words. But maybe he wasn't profiting that day. Maybe he wasn't a prophet in the mood. He just had a bad day. Like a comic had a bad set. Yeah. It just was a bad set. Yeah, like Brigham Young. Like, okay, this is my favorite one that they took away from Brigham Young. If you find your wife in bed with a black man, better to run him through with a sword than the either one of them live. And if you ever have a child or yourself have one drop of black blood in you, you can never have the priesthood. Well, I mean, like if you're studying Israel right now, they have that ship trying to get them food.
Starting point is 01:46:59 And they're talking about how everybody on a ship was just isolated. it and then the one black guy that tried to lead the unionizing of Amazon, they took them aside and they tortured the shit out of them. Fuck. I'm telling you, like, it is not the curse of cane for the Mormons. Brown people are different than black people for the Mormons. And there's been many very bad things said. But they love to pay them six mill to play basketball at their college.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Well, only until 1978. 1978, they finally said that the black man could come to heaven to. What? Just to help the sports, to be clear. Just literally, so they're paying this kid $6 million to play basketball this year. The bansa, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Yeah, you think they're going to invoke that rule? You can't hook up with anybody on campus? Well, not now, because now they, every commercial ever now for the LDS Church has got like 10 black people in it. They've kicked down some really good players in the past for hooking up with, women. Well, the problem is, like, how good were they? Because, like, that kid that just left
Starting point is 01:48:07 their quarterback went to a shitty school. Nobody, none of the really good schools. There's been others, though. We'll see, dude. I mean, I don't think that, I think DePon said that they'd figure it out. They're like, okay, these ones you can hit. Yeah. Well, it's okay now. Now they push that it's great. But I don't know if you know the story. It's okay for them to have premarital relations. Is that you're saying? No, no, no. Oh, that's what we're talking about. We're talking about they kick out players for premarital sex in their sports programs. But they got the number one. Yeah. They got the number one recruit.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Like, here's what's going to happen with that kid. If he goes there and he's not instantly a star, they're going to have one of these chicks going to be like, yeah. Yeah, we hooked up. You're out. Goodbye. I wonder if they put that in his contract. Oh, yeah. Oh, they do. They put all kinds of stuff in their contracts like that. And just FYI, if he comes to Utah, he's in all kinds of trouble.
Starting point is 01:49:00 He has no idea. The women out here don't see. that many black people and it's like it's like the best wine like he's going to get attacked. When I went to college they were called Jack Mormons and they were great. Are they welcoming? Like even though
Starting point is 01:49:17 they want to be like sad worse? Listen you know when I do when I do episodes like this I go the people of Salt Lake are going to hate me but I love Salt Lake. I go there all the time to do stand up and it is wonderful. They do laugh. Well and here's the thing. Basically
Starting point is 01:49:32 everything I'm telling you today is old news. This is like old. You know, this is all back in the day. Remember, remember when we were, did you go with me to Utah? I bet a couple times. Salt Lake, but we were doing a show and there was a bunch of like gorgeous, like 30 year old women there. Yeah. And all they wanted to do was hook up with the Samoan, the Samoan guards. I mean, they were all over them. Like, they were over us and then boom, they saw Samoans. They're like, oh, that's even darker. Let's go. no it's real it's a thing out here like they are a rare commodity and they are definitely revered and now the church even pushes it because now it's okay so and what's really funny until 1978 they
Starting point is 01:50:16 were do you know the story about why people are black in the Mormon church oh no why no it's it's fun it's not about the mark of cane so they believe that all of us live in something called the premortal existence and that we chose all of our problems and our parents and all of the things we go through here. That's all your fault. Just FYI. And then we are up there as these spirit children waiting to come down and jump in the body, kind of like Scientology there. So they're waiting to come down to heaven and everybody's chilling there. And then Jesus and Lucifer were brothers and they got in a fight and you know Jesus wanted to give people like free will to choose and lucifer wanted to force them so there was the war in heaven and then you know the people that didn't decide they
Starting point is 01:51:05 were like oh my gosh who do we follow like I don't know they're both great like what do we do um those people were called the fence sitters and that's why they're black whoa and it's like well not now but before 1978 was one of the worst things you could do to mix your blood with a black person and those Kingston's I was telling you about that believe their blood is the actual blood of Jesus Christ, they don't mix blood at all.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Wow, that is crazy. There's this notion that 23 and Mia is all about trying to find the descendants of Jesus. I didn't think about that. I sort of believe that. So have you ever seen the granite genealogical vault? No.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Well, let me tell you. So this 23 and me thing. This happened on the day that did he was arrested. Every single person on the board of 23 and me quit on the same day. So I found that interesting. So I screen shot at it because I thought, oh, hold on. What happened on the same day that they all quit? The exact day. And this lady, what happened? They they all quit. Diddy. Did he got arrested. Everybody quit. And there's. Yeah. So the Mormon church, like I said, underneath Howard, Hughes. Underneath a company called Hughes Dynamics, William Gay, he was the one that started
Starting point is 01:52:31 computerizing everything. Do you know how they got that information, all these genealogical sample, like information, not samples, not DNA, but the information? No. I do. So the Nazis liked Mormons because there's quotes even that I can't 100% prove that float around that Hitler said the Mormon is the Uberminch because they don't mix their blood. So he loved Mormons and he did not persecute them like other religions and that is proven because the Mormons decided they would help out the Nazis and help them prove three lines back to prove, and I quote, that nobody held from a Jewess in their line. So you had to prove this before you go on dates with people back then. And so they said, look, we'll help. you, okay? We'll help you out, but you have to give us these records because genealogy is really important to us because we go and baptize all the dead people. And so they're like, hmm, maybe. Okay, yeah, it sounds like a good deal. We'll do that. So, but where did their information go? It's not as simple after the war ended about the information, right? We know it went where?
Starting point is 01:53:47 Went to the government, right? Yeah. And that would be the CIA. and the FBI and whatnot. And so what happened was is the CIA handed it over to the Mormons. All of the punch cards that were done for against the Jews. Yeah. They handed all of those cards over to the Mormons to digitize everything. And it is kept inside of these. Do you see the name in there?
Starting point is 01:54:15 The Jaskidjishi, whatever her name is? Oh, we're chicky. Her sister was the one from YouTube and a bunch of people. there's a death trail you see one of their sisters or that girl that woman who owned 23 me she's married to the guy who founded google so they have no they know what you're watching they have your dna and they have your search engine history well and her sister was over um youtube and she died two months before that happened and her son died like in february of that year yeah so that so what i got from that is that even the masters of mankind
Starting point is 01:54:51 will be sacrificed in these giant siops. Well, if you mess up, they're going to get rid of you. Yeah. Yep. I agree, man. It's pretty crazy. Well, listen, I enjoyed this. Why don't we set up a second interview to get you to come on and talk about
Starting point is 01:55:12 the Mormon mafia in greater detail? Because there's a bunch stuff I'd love to talk to you about. Absolutely. Can I tell you three more things before we go about this building? right here. Yeah. And the IBM. So just so people know, you know, Mary, Mary Maxwell Gates worked for IBM. And she gets skipped over a lot. She was not technically on their payroll because she was on the board of IBM. And she's the one that facilitated all of this. And this is, you can, you guys can go to the CIA declassified docs to see what I'm talking about as far as
Starting point is 01:55:47 these punch cards and everything. But this is the building to keep them in. This is just supposed to be, you know, your genealogy. It's got armed guards. One road in and one rode out. They blew a hole in the side of the mountain and that's here where I live. And that is why they have it so heavily guarded. They say it's just because of family history. My eye. I don't know about that with all of all of these records, right? But I know one thing. You know, there's a tight relationship with the Gates family and the Mormon Church because do you know who owns the most farmland in America? Bill Gates.
Starting point is 01:56:26 Do you know who owns the second most? Mark Zuckerberg? Mormon Church. And the Mormon Church, their number one stock portfolio because you can find out fascinating things like about who people support with their little stocks, right? If you're a really rich person, their number one holding is Microsoft.
Starting point is 01:56:45 So there is no doubt to be. me that these people have been working together clear back from the day, including with his mother. So that is all I have to say about that. This is one row. Don't they own a big chunk of Coke and they don't drink soda? No, they, so the whole thing is, is they cannot drink. Originally, it was hot, hot liquids, which was coffee and tea back then. And then I kind of feel like that came from, I mean, they're also not supposed to eat meat all the time. They're supposed to be like mostly eating vegetables. It's like this whole clean eating thing, but they, none of them do it. They're all addicted crazy to sugar. And they are one of the first people to manufacture beet sugar,
Starting point is 01:57:27 which is horrible for you, and had all of their products shipped all over with the railroad that they helped build because the railroad finished up here in Utah at Promontory Point. Whoa. Yeah, it gets, you know, they're so intertwined with the government at this point that, I mean, It's a hard sell for me to believe anybody at the upper echelon isn't in on this, basically. And then one day I'll show you, too, about like the Mormon garments and the ceremony. I'm pretty sure we can fit it in on that second piece too because it's weird. Very occultic.
Starting point is 01:58:05 So occultic, dude. It's just crazy time. Crazy. But, yeah, it was fun. I had a blast. I would love to talk to you about the Mormon mafia. Yeah, I definitely set it up. You know, you know how this show was great.
Starting point is 01:58:16 great because it just flew yes that's how you know i had a blast you were never on the screen by the way do you know that right um i don't care yeah no it's not a problem at all i i wanted to show you the things like so you could see because i mean the stuff i'm telling you is really weird okay so real quick um one more time where they can where can they find you thank you so much again for having me on and i'm so happy to have met you all and had a fun time so i'm Heidi love i'm of the unfiltered rise i'm everywhere a podcast are served. I do have my own website, unfiltered rise podcast.com. If you don't like podchacers, I do want to say I am on YouTube. I'm only on there once a week. You're going to find probably three drops a week on my Spotify because YouTube keeps dinging me. So yeah. Well, I think you're great.
Starting point is 01:59:05 I love what you're doing. And I'm glad you start a show and you have an open door to come back anytime you want. And I thought this is great. Thanks for coming on show. Let's break down the episode. Grab a coffee and discover Vegas-level excitement with BetMGM Casino. Now introducing our hottest exclusive, Friends, The One with Multi-Drop. Your favorite television show is being reimagined in your new favorite casino game, featuring iconic images from the show. Spin our new exclusive because we are not on a break. Play Friends, The One with Multidrop exclusively at BetMGM Casino.
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Starting point is 02:00:22 Yeah, she's a good Mormon. Her, like, I mean, she's not a Mormon. She's literally not a Mormon. I think you just said something and you don't know what you said. Now you're committing to it. Yeah, you're doubling down on dumb. No, listen, and this is, whenever we do something on the Mormon church, I feel so bad because I love Utah.
Starting point is 02:00:44 It's a great place to do calm. and I'm sure we're going to get some pissed off people but she says this is all known so maybe they're not going to get back Salt Lake is probably one of the most underrated comedy cities You always say that, yeah, you always say that. I mean, it's so funny because black NBA players
Starting point is 02:01:01 don't want to play there. I'm like, why? Maybe it's because there's not a lot of nightclubs. I don't know. There's no black scene there, you know what I mean? So it's hard to have like... Yeah, and guess what? So I forgot to bring up the story
Starting point is 02:01:12 about Odin Pallis. Paulson, I think, was the old center. He was like seven foot in the NBA. And he just went crazy one day when he played for the jazz. And he decided to act like he was a cop and pull somebody over.
Starting point is 02:01:28 And he's like, I'm a police officer. They're like, uh, no, you're Utah Jazz. You play for the team. I mean, you're the only black guy in Utah. There's like two seven foot black guys in the state. And you're one of them. Same with Carl Malone, dude. He couldn't say out of trouble when he was in Utah.
Starting point is 02:01:45 Well, you know, it's so funny is like now everybody hates Carmel. Like, this story comes out about him and like the 14 year old or the 15 year old. And now he's like getting ex. Even Wembe was like shit talking on the internet, dude. I mean, it's kind of good. Like he now gets booed in Utah. They boo him. Imagine booing the mailman in Utah.
Starting point is 02:02:08 They boo him. It's crazy. You know, again, it's like, it's like we got to have Adam Greer. green back. We have them back on. I feel like you reference him as much as anybody. Yeah, we should have a back on. But he's been talking about this at the, you know, at the deepest realms, everything gets into Kabbalism. And now she's talking about how there's, I mean, there's all these Hebrew symbolism and all this old Mormon, you know, symbols. I mean, it's so, you know, it's so old. And it seems to be a source for so many of these things that
Starting point is 02:02:43 it's kind of inevitable right it's crazy so this is my battle johnny is like is like as you hear all this stuff as a christian do you dismiss it what do you mean yeah do you dismiss energy work and all that stuff like as a christian mysticism all that stuff not not you're programming but deep inside you not no no no i think i think there's something to it yeah i don't know if it's necessarily benign, I don't know, I might have a cost on the other end. I mean, a lot of this magic stuff has a cost. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's what I fear is that there's some, you pay for it somewhere.
Starting point is 02:03:24 Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Do you say, like, okay, so you would you say like manifesting something in a weird way might be... Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Possibly. Well, they do say that that's the dark arts, Satanist stuff. Yeah, I mean, I fear that.
Starting point is 02:03:39 That I think about. Yeah. I mean, to me, it's like prayer is enough. I've seen kind of how that works, you know what I mean? So why not do it in that, in that construct is kind of how I feel personally, like praying? It just seems like there's, that there's mysticism out there. And the question is, is it all negative? Is it all bad?
Starting point is 02:04:01 Well, I think if you, here's the, my, okay, my deep feeling is that, okay, so what you're describing the kind of the, what, what do you, like the directed thinking and the kind of, you wouldn't call it magic. What do you call it? What do you call it? Mises. No, but when you, when you're trying to manifest things in your life, what do you call that, the ritual of that? What do you? Manifest, just manifestation. Okay. Yeah. Well, that to me is no different than prayer. But with prayer, you have an intercessor. That's what they call, like, the Holy Ghost or something, you know.
Starting point is 02:04:38 and they are kind of packaging that for you in a healthy way. Do you know what I mean? They're kind of taking your hopes and dreams. What is the Holy Ghost? I mean, that's a big question, dude. That's why I asked it. I asked big questions. There's disagreement throughout Christianity, but it's like,
Starting point is 02:04:57 I mean, you know, you can say it's an intercessor. It's kind of the spirit that fills you up when you're, that ties you to, you know to god and jesus uh when you're when you're uh saved you know to use that evangelical term but i but to me it's it went through prayer it's kind of like the safe the the safe version of doing that do you know so that you're not incurring that carmic debt possibly okay this might be like a weird take on it but do you also feel like you can't use it a lot like i remember when i got my d u i remember i was like please god i don't please god don't really ask you for much yeah i know you mean like come
Starting point is 02:05:38 on, this would be the time where you can maybe, you know, come through it. I love that God's, like, dealing with, like, what's going on in the Congo and Palestine? He's like, hold on. What is XG asking for? I don't ask for much. That's what I was trying to tell. I was like, I don't ask for much, dude. Like, today would be a really nice day for you to, like, forget about what's going over there in Gaza.
Starting point is 02:05:56 Have you gotten to DUI before? Yeah, like when I was, like, 18. And it was crazy because I didn't even, I mean, I blew over the limit, but it was, I was underage. So anything over zero, zero, zero. I mean, you got wet and reckless. I got a lawyer, but it was still that moment in time where you saw, I saw the lights and I was like, please, God. Like, I never really ever come through like that.
Starting point is 02:06:16 I had this cop the other day. I did a show at the Ice House. And I, this, these two motorcycle cops went through the intersection and took a left, and he just stared at me the whole time. And I was putting in address into my phone. And I just started so my seatbelt wasn't on yet. and dude I just watch him take off turn down the street and I'm like oh he's turning around the way for me so I buckled my seatbelt up and I literally drive like this like elbows up
Starting point is 02:06:49 like this on the steering wheel just so you can see I got both hands on the on the wheel I don't have the phone the most obvious obvious guy he pulled right behind me and followed me for blocks and I'm just driving like this You know there's this I've seen now that I watch all these civil rights lawyer videos They're these cops that think That somebody acting too straight
Starting point is 02:07:16 Is like a sign that maybe they're Up to no good Mewling like if you're going right at At the speed limit Yeah like there's just famously this guy That pulls over people in like Texas And the video of him is just hilarious And he thinks he's got like this six cents
Starting point is 02:07:33 And he talks about, he pulls this guy, he makes the guy come sit with him in a car, just a normal guy driving who happens to be going to speed limit and sits with him in the cop car and talks to him for like a half hour about how much time he spent in Iraq and how I can just kind of tell when somebody's got something with him. You know what I mean? And they bring a dog and do a fake hit on his car. And then he tells the guy with the dog before he, the dog tells him that there's drugs there. He's like, hey, this is the car we've been looking for, you know, on this big thing. we've been tracking you know i can't say much about it but and it's not it's just some guy and there's nothing in it no and it's a it's a lawsuit right now but yeah and the guy got i think the guy got fired uh but he thought he was just had like and it really is just that that fine you remember because the guy who came on and talked about um Israel and at the end he kind of drifted off as he was like as we were hanging up on him but he was like yeah cops kill Blacks all the time. You're like, hang up, you know. And it's just like, if you want lawlessness, go live in San Francisco. Tell me how that's going. Not great. It's not great. You know,
Starting point is 02:08:44 you also don't want cops overreaching. And it's, I don't know what the answer is. It's hard to find, we got to do a better job picking the people who do that job is the thing. Well, they take tests and they want them to fail. Yeah. You guys saw that video that black guy that gets punched where they break the window that that one video yeah i know exactly what you're talking about though no you know you see from the cop side and the cops like get out of the car no you close the door and i'm like a little kid like no yeah and i don't know what the answer is there i have so much copophobia get out of the car get out of the car i i do i'll start doing jumping jacks whatever the fuck they want just to get it over with even when i got arrested for drugs i'm like
Starting point is 02:09:25 it's not your fault guys it's my fault i was you i was you i was you I'm sorry, you guys are good guys. I mean, that sounds like Stockholm syndrome or something. Because, dude, they could literally make your life. What you're doing is making something that's just simply a traffic ticket. Obviously with drugs, it's a little bit more than that. But a traffic ticket into a felony. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:48 And I don't, I mean, and the problem is even if they don't have legitimate cause, you could. They can make one up. Yeah, let's make it up. You know, there's a fine line. And I love the one Can you get a warrant? You don't have a warrant for that Oh, they can get a warrant
Starting point is 02:10:02 Yeah, you don't have a warrant Come in, no, no, no, you don't have that Well, in your house, they can't Now, there are great protections on you In your own home They do, they have to have a warrant To come in your house No, but your car though?
Starting point is 02:10:12 Not your car, no, you know a warrant for that No, no, it's a, well, They have to have probable cause You can have, they can stop you For traffic stuff But then if they want to search your car They have to have a probable cause for that Can't anything really be a probable cause?
Starting point is 02:10:25 Not really. It's not supposed to be. Well, that can be probable cause for them to, like, they can bring a dog after that, I think, or pull you out and, like, search you and stuff. But I don't know, dude, they all think, well, not all, I won't say all. A lot of them think that they have some kind of sixth sense for it. And that's where they end up just pulling over innocent people, because they're like, I know, I know this guy's home. I'm going to find out, you know, just a micro joint from 30 years ago that's in the back seat and then they put you away. No, but even when they plant it, it's like, what scumbags?
Starting point is 02:10:56 Yeah. I support cops I mean they Of course Good cops I support Yeah 100% Because we've seen what happens When the cops don't show up
Starting point is 02:11:04 It's just chaos And that's the whole Marxist thing It's like they push it as Oh Let's just You know We're not gonna arrest them Because it's racism
Starting point is 02:11:14 And then maybe if we stop Charging them all the time They'll stop committing crimes Like no They took them what We might want to do that And then come back Okay
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Starting point is 02:15:11 It's fun. All right, guys. Enjoy these highlights. Here's a clip from the latest Broken Sim. This is from E-News. Matt Rife is taking his crowdwork to a new dimension. that's really clever. Indeed, the comedian revealed that he purchased the Connecticut home of Ed and Lorraine Warren, which has been the inspiration for multiple famous horror films.
Starting point is 02:15:31 We know about all those. And with that purchase came the responsibility of being the legal guardian for at least the next five years of the entire haunted collection, including the Annabelle Doll. Bro, this is, it's just dark arts, pro. And I love Matt Rife. You know, every time I had a conversation with him he's been a nice dude yeah but man when you literally say I just bought an occult museum yes it's why why did you do that sorry I'm I'm plugging in this fans I mean there's things I you know I don't want to get too deep and like I just you know me dude I don't like to go after comics well no but there have been a lot of questions about his rise right like well you know I I heard him making a joke
Starting point is 02:16:21 to somebody about how he sold a soul. I told you that a long time. You remember that? Yep. And he's like, yeah, I sold my soul. And I was like, I know I heard that. I go, what, dude? You know, me, dude.
Starting point is 02:16:34 I'm like, what? I don't know, dude. It's fucking nuts. Do you think, I mean. I mean, that's a creepy-ass thing to buy. It's also, I mean, just to say that is bizarre. And then they do an announcement on it. I mean...
Starting point is 02:16:51 I don't know. What do you think? I mean, I wonder, is he, I mean, you know, has he into that stuff? I've never heard that. I mean, he had a travel show where he did with some guys on his podcast. I don't know what his show was before. But, dog, who hears about a guy dying and then be like, I want to buy that? Maybe that's the best time to buy it.
Starting point is 02:17:17 You know, everybody's afraid. You get in low, bro. Like the palisades, get in low, buy low. Yeah, dude. Hey, hey, dude. Hey, you get a call from your real estate guy. Listen, I listen, we have a golden opportunity here. We got a doll to just kill somebody. It's never, it's at its lowest value possible. I know you want to get into the occult. This is a great time. This is a great time. Dude, you get this now. They'll throw the doll in for free by now. And what do you think? So this is, I think, in Louisiana, right? Is it? Hold on. I don't, I don't know about that. Let me see. Dude, someone just hit it. Lugrative gay dollars, dog. Lugrative gay dollars.
Starting point is 02:17:58 Dude, by the way, John, I will say, okay, there's a clarification. I'm sorry, go ahead. It's morning, it's morning in Australia. Okay, thank you, whoever said that. Yeah. They aren't the official owners of the Annabelle doll. He clarified. He said they are the, whatever this means,
Starting point is 02:18:15 legal guardians and caretakers of the items for the next few years. He says, Warren, spelled incorrectly here, arguably put demonology and paranormal into the mainstream and are at the very heart of some of the most famous haunted stories of all time. He says, what this means for you guys is, you are going to soon be able to book a night or a weekend and stay at the Warren's house and investigate the house, he revealed. Nope. Nope. Goodbye. No, thank you. Not happening. Nope. I'm not going to anywhere fucking haunted. I'm not gonna bring that shit.
Starting point is 02:18:53 Or regular haunted. Here is a picture of him at the house there. Oh, dude, he got from the fucking doll? Stop effing here, if we can help it. He's got a God's country shirt on my job. Oh, God, what he doing, dude? Grab a coffee and discover Vegas-level excitement with Bed MGM Casino. Now introducing our hottest exclusive, friends, the one with Multi-Drop.
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Starting point is 02:20:14 Yeah, he sure is. But he has four arms, dude. Damn, bro. You better get strong. He's going to be fighting them demons, dude. Stop before you start looking into his eyes. Dude, he's dreaming. I bet you he did.
Starting point is 02:20:25 They're in it. Gay dollars. Matt Rife gets gay dollars. Oh boy. For him. Gets all those gay dollars. Oh boy, does he? Um, okay, this is, uh,
Starting point is 02:20:34 he has to the movies for is haunted. Okay, but I've battled them demons, dude. I've seen them face to face. Yeah, you know me. You think you don't know me, homie? The ghost of the kind of store know me, homie. is that they know you is that way is that they know me no worry they're going i used to live in a house that was built in 1800s on our farm uh we're all i told people that were like hey is it haunted i'm
Starting point is 02:21:00 like yeah if it is it's all people i'm related to so what am i afraid did he does okay uh i was on a different tab and then sam just disappeared you think you know me what did you do what just happened me we're so professional what did you just do what'd you just do what happened i was on another i was pulling up something so i don't know what happened don't worry about johnny don't even worry about it i won't worry about so this is uh let's say film cinema purists are uh okay i guess sam uh as it go have a you got an emergency a bathroom emergency what's going on here zen are you zening it what is this
Starting point is 02:21:47 Sam, for those listening, is this guy's headphones unplugged and he's just, oh, he's got his Jesus figurine, I see. Johnny, when we talk about Matt Wright. You got to have your Jesus figure. I got to bring him in, dude. Oh, no. Right. He's got his anti-porn Jesus figurine.
Starting point is 02:22:06 Johnny, ask me how many days? How many days? 15, nigger. Oh, did you just say the N-word on the stream? I can't edit it out. We're not going to get monetized now. Okay, sorry. Sorry, dude.
Starting point is 02:22:19 I should have said it. I should have said, I'm sorry. I wonder if we can camouflage it, like, make it sound like something. We go back at them. I love nickels. Nichols. Nichols. Those are my favorite coins.
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Starting point is 02:22:44 So, film. just cut it out dude i can't cut it out on the live stream bro that's okay but yeah you can of a live stream i've done it but it's not it they it won't help you with the monetization once once you won't help me with the monetization okay uh so the film purists movie purists sent him a purist are uh shitting themselves because at the sphere in Vegas they have are you listening yeah they've taken a version of Wizard of Oz they've cut like I don't know it was like 40 minutes out of it and they've used AI to expand the frames so that it goes to the edge of the sphere and they're doing a production of the Wizard of Oz stop looking at the comments I'll show you a little bit about this it's it's
Starting point is 02:23:32 pretty it's pretty interesting how this technology they've used so this is 60 minutes talking about can you hear this oh dude we're going to get we're going to get yeah yeah it's okay I'm just I'm not going to play all of it. I'm going to skip around. But look, I want to show you what they've done here without playing it. Oh, this is cool. Yeah, it is cool. Dude, if you get a little buzz on going there, oh, buddy.
Starting point is 02:23:54 So what they've done, though, is I'll show you they've expanded the frames using AI. Because look, look, this is what it originally looked like. You'll see here in a second. You see this down here is what it looked like originally. And then they've used AI to expand the frame all the way to the edge. Oh, that's cool, dude. And then, dude, so, and then during. the tornado scene they have these like giant fans in there that blow debris around like
Starting point is 02:24:19 leaves fake leaves and stuff yeah yeah it feels like you're in a look at this so it feels like you're in a tornado while you're well now of course as they do with everything fun uh anal people are saying that this is destroying the art of wizard of odds uh uh no that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard my life. It's it's taking it's taken to another level. And a whole new generation. You think kids are sitting around watching the Wizard of Oz these days? It's too slow pace for that.
Starting point is 02:24:51 Dude, I've tried to show my kids all that old stuff. They, they're like, nah, we good. Are your kids growing up in the ghetto now? Is that what is it? We're good. We're good, Pops. That she just crick walks away. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:10 I mean, dude, people are like, Honestly, I got into it a little on Twitter with one of these film critic guys, and they are losing it on this one, man. Like, properly, they say this is the slippery slope that leads to just full AI movies and stuff. And I'm like, no, dude, this is akin to the Guardians of the Galaxy ride at a theme park. That's all this is. This is going to be one place where they're doing this. You have to go there and pay like $300 to go see it.
Starting point is 02:25:36 I would do it. It's nothing, but it's nothing like an actual, it's not, if it was a movie that was to be everywhere around the country. Yeah, you might have an argument. Here's the thing, dude. Not this. Your life is going really good when you can get upset about this stuff. Yes.
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