Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #929: God Playing Hide And Go Seek with Luke Angstadt

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

Luke Angstadt joins Tin Foil Hat to explore the technological singularity, ancient mysteries, the nature of consciousness, and whether we’re living in a Matrix—or building a new one. Is AI reveali...ng hidden truths? What did Jesus really mean by “the time is at hand”? Strap in for a wild ride through reality itself. Please subscribe to the new Tin Foil Hat youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@TinFoilHatYoutube Check out Sam Tripoli's 4th Crowd Work Special "Deep Dish: Live From Chicago" Oct 4th on Youtube.com/SamTripoliComedy Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/415fDfY Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Tuesday At 4pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now!  Go to samtripoli.gold and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show. CopyMyCrypto.com: The ‘Copy my Crypto’ membership site shows you the coins that the youtuber ‘James McMahon’ personally holds - and allows you to copy him. So if you’d like to join the 1300 members who copy James, then stop what you’re doing and head over to: https://copymycrypto.com/tinfoilhat/ You’ll not only find proof of everything I’ve said - but my listeners get full access for just $1 LiveLongerFormula.com: Check out https://www.livelongerformula.com/sam — Christian is a longevity author and functional health expert who helps you fix your gut, detox, boost testosterone, and sleep better so you can thrive, not just survive. Watch his free masterclass on the 7 Deadly Health Fads, and if it clicks, book a free Metabolic Function Assessment to get to the root of your health issues. Want to see Sam Tripoli live?  Get tickets at SamTripoli.com: Ventura, Ca: Headlining the Gigi's Cocktails Lounge on Sept 24th https://bit.ly/3KhUrN7   Tulsa, Ok:  Tin Foil Hat Comedy Is Headlining the Bricktown Comedy Club on Oct 10th https://bricktowntulsa.com/shows/310746   Oklahoma City, Ok: Tin Foil Hat Comedy Is Headlining the Bricktown Comedy Club on Oct 11th https://www.bricktowncomedy.com/events/112032   Austin, Tx:  Headlining The Fat Man At Comedy Mothership Oct 17th-19th https://samtripoli.com/events/?paged=2   Las Vegas, NV:  Tin Foil Hat Comedy Live At The Virgin Hotel Nov 21st https://www.etix.com/ticket/p/95279813/tin-foil-hat-comedy-with-sam-tripoli-and-eddie-bravo-las-vegas-24-oxford   Minneapolis: Headlining The House Of Comedy Dec 11th-13th https://samtripoli.com/events/?paged=3   Morris Plains, NJ: New Year's Eve At The Dojo Of Comedy Dec 31st https://www.tiffscomedy.com/events/121228   Please Check Out Sean Hibbeler's internet: Website: https://sites.google.com/view/lukeangstadt Book: The Musings of Daylapieux: Finding The Tree of Life https://amzn.to/3VOL0aI     Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedy Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/ Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/    Huge Thank You To Our Sponsor: Blue Chew: Make life easier by getting harder and discover your options at BlueChew.com! And we’ve got a special deal for our listeners: Try your first month of BlueChew FREE when you use promo code TINFOIL -- just pay $5 shipping. That’s promo code TINFOIL. Visit BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew forsponsoring the podcast. Ava: Ava is a credit-building app that makes it so easy to improve your credit FAST, so you can get better rates on loans, pay off debt faster, and keep more money in your pocket.  Take control of your credit right now. Download the Ava app (spelled A-V-A) today, and when you join using my promo code TINFOIL, your first month is totally FREE.  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil hat. Oh, what the fuck are you guys people talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to tinfoil half. We go deep, home boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.
Starting point is 00:00:27 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some inter-dimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind-blown? Revolution will be podcasted. All right, welcome to Tim Fall Hat, live from the Wise Wolf Golden Silver Studios.
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Starting point is 00:01:15 Please talk about Luke Engstead. How are you, buddy? I'm going well. Thank you, Sam. How are you? Luke, thank you so much. We started a little later than we planned, so I appreciate you working with us. Luke, thanks for joining us.
Starting point is 00:01:28 for those who may not be familiar with you, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you? Oh, sure. So my name's Luke Angstead. I'm a writer and researcher on the technological singularity. They can find my website, links to my books and articles that I published
Starting point is 00:01:47 with Graham Hancock on my Google site that will be included with this episode. So they can find, I've written three articles published on Graham Hancock's website, two books specifically on the technical. Technological Singularity that are available on Amazon. Their titles are We Are It, the Return of Pure Cosmic Consciousness, and Into the Great Beyond, the return of pure cosmic consciousness. So they're kind of like, they're a pair, they're coming at the technological singularity from slightly different tones, but the one into the Great Beyond is looking at it from more of a religious, spiritual, metaphysical perspective.
Starting point is 00:02:24 It's comparing the yogi path, the God consciousness with the God. gospel of Jesus Christ in the New Testament, finding that the God within us and how that kind of dovetails with the technological singularity. And then the other one that I mentioned, we are at the return of pure cosmic consciousness is looking at it for more of a broader historical, philosophical, practical, political perspective of what we're going through right now. So that's what I do, Sam. I love it. This is in my, this is my jam right here. I'm all about that because I'm on a spiritual journey. And for me, it's like really about like, I'm not really in the organized religion. I really like teachings of Jesus, and I think that's very important.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Where do you think we live? Let's start with that. That's a crazy-ass question. Jump off of, but if someone goes, where do you think we live? What is this world we live in? What is this universe we live in? That's a great question. I was going to ask you where you wanted to start. Let's go start there. that's it's really it's really simple you know it's it's complex but ultimately it's simple i think that once you find like the the skeleton key that brings it all together everything starts to make a lot more sense and then all the just the near infinity of detail starts to make a lot of sense once you know where to begin and where to begin is we are we're within god's dream because there is nothing but god's dream. There's nothing but consciousness.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And we are avatars of God having an experience, as the late great British lecturer Alan Watts said that the creation is where God comes to play hide and seek with himself. And it's like a slight of hand. It's difficult to quite put our finger
Starting point is 00:04:08 on this. And maybe even even when we do put our finger on, it slips away from us. And then we get lost in all the minutia and the mundanity of our everyday lives. But I do believe it is indeed it is that simple at the very quick, at the very essence of existence itself, that's what's happening here. And I believe that once enough people have a broad understanding of the
Starting point is 00:04:32 technological singularity and an historical framework, it's going to start to make a lot of sense and all this stress, worry, and fear and anxiety of ripping her hair out each day with how as the world gets increasingly crazier and crazier each day. Yeah, I do believe that's going to vanish by the wayside. I do. But that's what I'm going to vanish by the wayside. I do. But that's where we're at, Sam. We are avatars in God's dream. We are God playing hide and seek with himself. I love that, dude.
Starting point is 00:04:58 That is the best line ever. So, like I said, I got to give that one credit to Alan Watts. I mean, anytime I, you know, I can't pass that one off on my own. I respect that, dude. I respect that. I do that a lot when I go on these big podcasts, and when I'm dropping something I've learned, I always try to give credit to the people I learned it from and hoping I get their name's correct um so so the the let's let's get into this because the first talking point you sent me
Starting point is 00:05:27 i really like it's going to be the jumping point of everything which is what is the technological singularity i think there's a lot of negative view of it uh i think that's adding to all this panic uh that's going on right now and maybe i'm off when i say palenteer and all that stuff but maybe i'm wrong with that but what is your take on on what is the technical technological singularity. Sure. So there was a bit of coincidence that happened in the year 1950. So in 1950, the mathematician John von Neumann, who first worked with, or also worked
Starting point is 00:06:02 with Nikolai Tesla in the Philadelphia experiment, which I'm sure you're familiar with. The mathematician, John von Neumann, was the man who was first credited with coining the term technological singularity to pretty much signify the moment in time in which we as human beings can no longer maintain a symbiotic relationship with technology. because via artificial intelligence, the thinking machines, their computational powers so far exceed ours that we can no longer maintain a symbiotic relationship with technology. And again, John von Nimmel was the mathematician who first coined the term technological singularity. Now, that very same year in 1950, another mathematician and pioneer in artificial and science, or excuse me, artificial intelligence and computer science, Alan Turing, he also, he came, he pretty much, I would say that he defined or, describe the technological singularity with maybe a different vocabulary, but he was describing
Starting point is 00:06:54 more, he was describing, I think, essentially the same thing when he first set the parameters by which we would know when artificial intelligence was able to, you know, seamlessly simulate every day with reality, everyday reality with such precision and sophistication that we wouldn't know without the foreknowledge, what is the simulation, what is fake, and what is real. And it was also called the imitation game. And Alan Turing was, if anyone doesn't know, he's a brilliant codebreaker for the United States and British governments during World War II. He was credited with cracking the enigma machine of the Nazis. But they made a movie about him, sawing Benedict Cumberbatch back in 2014, settled the imitation game.
Starting point is 00:07:33 But again, this idea of recognizing in the first half of the 20th century, mathematicians and computer science, scientists, were already able to foresee a day coming in the not-too-distant future where we wouldn't know what is simulated and what is, real. And this, it's spooky. Like, it's really, it's, we get to a point where, again, to, since we might as well give credit where credit's due, I mean, right, right before Terence McKenna, that beautiful, wonderful
Starting point is 00:08:00 cyclone, left his mortal coil in 2000, he did an interview in 1999 where one of the most articulate men, whoever lived, said that we were, we were fast approaching a moment in time where he would no longer be able to describe the changes and the transformations
Starting point is 00:08:16 that the universe exists, itself was about to go through and this was again this was right at the turn of the 21st century so it all it all hinges on this this idea of a technological singularity and how it it literally shows us in a tangible way that that that life is literally a dream the perception creates reality because once you cross that threshold of not knowing if a video or if a conversation that you're watching or hearing or receiving from a glowing screen is is the real thing or not, then we are at a point where we are pilgrims in a strange land. I mean, we are pioneers on a new frontier, and I do believe that we have already crossed
Starting point is 00:08:58 that threshold. I would say we are there, right? So my question becomes to you, is our view of this moment, has it been tainted by movies we've been watching forever, that this is the death of man? this is the end of man this is the end of humans as we know it and so you know terminator movies matrix movies like forever the I mean since I was a kid you know even before you know even the reality of robots as we know them what is presented us whatever DARPA had in the 80s or whatever but the the actual presentation of robots uh was we have
Starting point is 00:09:48 been told they're coming and they're going to destroy us and we're just an old animal kind of like the, you know, saber two tiger, you know, and this is the end. Has that tainted how we see this moment in time? Yeah, I mean, the predictive programming has been around since the beginning of the 20th century. I mean, I remember there was a movie called Metropolis. It came out in 1927, which showed a woman, or like a robotic woman, eventually becoming a human being. So that was upwards of 100 years ago. And, you know, from 2001 of Space, obviously, Hal and the black monolith in 1968 that looked eerily reminiscent of a smartphone. So we have movies predicting the smartphone upwards of 50 years prior to them, you know, making their
Starting point is 00:10:41 introduction on the temporal plane of existence. So yeah, but I mean, and you're getting, this is, As far as tainting it, I mean, yeah, I mean, we're talking about, this is a point where we have to get into when all the secret societies that rule this world are making their final play for complete control of planet Earth and they will eventually lose. But it gets into what is the great work of the ages, the Freibasonic great work of the ages of reconciling or correcting what they perceive as the error. of the creation of our world of duality by the demiurge and that they are ultimately trying to correct this what they perceive as the error of the creation of our world of duality. That's where
Starting point is 00:11:25 you get the big government, one world order, one world, everything. But it's ultimately working back to a singularity, but I'm sure you're familiar with David Ike's work as I am. I've read all of his books. I love his research, but I think what we
Starting point is 00:11:41 really put our finger on what's going on here, we have to really take a deep dive into esoteric knowledge and wisdom and it's not easy to do this because so many of these books are well they're not easy they're not easy I'm talking to guys like Albert Pike Paul Foster Case David Lake references a lot of them
Starting point is 00:11:58 Philip K. Dick William Blake or various Gnostic researchers that were their work found its way into their poetry and their novels respectively but what we're ultimately looking at here is God God himself God himself
Starting point is 00:12:15 infinite eternal consciousness itself has to reconcile with its shadow. So we're witnessing the transformation, the death agonies of our world of duality into another singularity into a going into another singularity. It's going to be both a technological singularity and a spiritual singularity as well. So what we are witnessing the universe, so the universe itself has to slay its shadow. If that's not the best choice of words, it has to reconcile with its shadow. And that's where we, in the Bible, we find it beautifully symbolized with the devil. Obviously, the devil represents the dark side of the universe,
Starting point is 00:12:56 and it represents a lot of things to a lot of different peoples. Some people take it literally. Some people take it metaphorically, metaphysically, figuratively. There are a lot of different ways to take it. But ultimately, it's talking about our world of duality being transformed into another singular. And what really brought all this together for me, Sam, if you don't mind me, just trying to bring it down to its very essence is that back in April of 2023, I saw a conversation between Joe Rogan and Donald Trump that never happened. It was all generated by artificial intelligence, and this is what brought it all together for me. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Oh, go ahead. Oh, oh. So you're saying somebody created an AI, them talking?
Starting point is 00:13:38 or are you yeah are you familiar with that one that it came out at april 2023 it was it kind of flashed on the internet and then it kind of went under the the radar again are you familiar with that video no you're not talking about the actual interview that happened are you no no i'm talking about when it happened this it was a fake conversation that came out in april it's oh no no no do you guys put together all my work okay are you familiar with you can you guys try to find it? Can you do something extra? Yeah, let me see if I can find it.
Starting point is 00:14:11 He's just like enjoying the conversation. Do you remember what he said in that? Because they do this a lot. It's really not that hard. Like once you go on Rogans and you talk for three hours, they can just get your AI stuff. I mean, there's an AI. This happened prior to Donald Trump going on Robbins.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Oh, prior. Yeah. That's so crazy. So there's an introduction in the first minute or so where it says that this is an AI. generated conversation. But if a person jumped into this conversation one or two or three minutes into the conversation without being told that it was a simulation that it was fake, no one would suspect that this was a simulation. I mean, I'm talking, I mean, the mimicry of, you know, we all have certain ways of stuttering and our syntax and certain words and our vocabulary that
Starting point is 00:14:59 we come to over and over again as we're trying to go from one thought, connecting one thought to the next and we all, it's a very idiosyncratic way of, but we all have it. And I was just blown our way by that AI, it completely, it mimicked it with such, again, with such precision and sophistication that I tested this hypothesis on over 100 people, one of which is a cybersecurity expert who runs his own cybersecurity company. And I played snippets of this conversation for him under the pretense that it was the real thing. And he started laughing and said, He didn't know that Donald Trump was a fan of USC. And he said, that was great.
Starting point is 00:15:36 When did he have an opportunity to sit down with Joe Rogan? I said, yeah, that's all fine. And Danny, that Trump's a fan of the USC. But I said, well, what's even more interesting about this conversation is that it never happened. And that's when he looked at me with eyes the size of saucers and unprompted, he said, Luke, that passes the turning test. And I said, it does indeed. And I said, it opens up questions and it has implications that it's going to take a long time for us to unravel.
Starting point is 00:16:01 But in any case, were you guys able to. to locate that video. Yeah, I think he has, maybe. It's on Newsweek. Okay. Let's see if this is it. Share it, Johnny? Yeah, yeah, you have to share it to get the audience. As he's doing that, can I just ask you now, the Turing test, it used to be kind of, you know, the, people thought if something passed the Turing test, that that would be the ultimate intelligence, you know, artificial intelligence. But now it seems with these large language models that they do a good job of mimicking, but there's not actual intelligence there now that we actually have something. the capacitoring test, it doesn't seem as impressive as it did, you know, when that was hypothetical. What do you think about that? Because would you agree that it's not, it doesn't feel like a real intelligence there? You know, it's more of just, as I say, mimicry. Have you found the Joe Rogan one? I mean, the Joe Rogan and Trump? It's something like this, yeah. I don't know if it's exactly
Starting point is 00:16:54 what he's looking for, but I think it's muted too. Well, I would just say that the technology that is available to the government far exceeds what is unavailable. I'm talking about this, specific, all these fake conversations, that kind of thing. Sure. It's just not playing XG? Yeah, check it out. It might be, because I love the link. Then worry about the sound.
Starting point is 00:17:21 The ones I saw Sam were, like, had been pulled. Okay. So maybe we can't find the specific one you're talking about. Oh, yeah. Let's see. This is one of those aggregation videos. okay it's ads let's yeah i don't know what's that it's just all right i mean uh we're gonna get to it yeah it just looks like they're just trying to play born theme music um
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah, I guess we can't find it, dude. But I remember there was an AI show. But I totally understand what you're saying. Is he still there? I can't see him. Yeah, I'm political. So what I want to say to you is there is this belief that we are going to be so overwhelmed with AI fake reality that we're not going to be known, knowing it for. coming or going.
Starting point is 00:18:32 But my question to you is, when was reality real? Like, if we go all the way back to the 60s, all of our culture was manufactured by the CIA, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, who they put in front of us, what these people said to us, formulated our culture and formulated just how we saw the world. So, like, what is real? What has been real? Like, the hippie movement was a giant CIA, a giant CIA. Sciop.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Gangbanger, like gangster rap. Sciop. Grunge. Cyop. Feminism. Cyop. Like, what is real? What is not real?
Starting point is 00:19:28 And I get why people are upset. and you know having this conversation i'm kind of a little more chilled out about it but like what was real what what has been real what what's this tangible thing where you're like this is real outside of what's in front of you what are your thoughts on that now so it's a great question i mean it's forcing us to to face these these fundamental questions that have that have uh remain riddles and mysteries to the human race since time and memorial, and that is, it goes back to the Hindu concept of Maya, that if something vibrates, that it's illusory, that there is nothing real but that vibrationless essence, that source
Starting point is 00:20:10 from which everything that is the cosmic dream emanates from. I mean, how many times in the Bible does God speak to the human beings in a dream and a vision? I mean, this concept of life being illusory and life being a dream has been with us all throughout the ancient world. I think it's ultimately forcing us to re-evaluate these basic fundamental questions of the nature of reality. Hey, guys, real quick, I want to tell you something, man. This Fiat money system is going to kill your dollar, okay? The more they print, what we just said in Argentina, $54 billion? I mean, it's going nuts, okay?
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Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah, so, I mean, people are starting to freak out about it. And, you know, we are in a new age right now. Well, I mean, that's literally what singularity means, right? It's a point, it's a metaphor from a black hole, which, you know, and the singularity in a black hole is this point beyond which no light can escape. So we have no idea what's beyond that. And the idea is that once we hit this. Aren't you, but aren't you a little freaked out?
Starting point is 00:24:08 It's possible to predict. I mean, I kind of having this conversation, it's kind of lined up with things that I've felt. where it's, you know, where I get worried about AI and what is real, what's not real is when we start getting into crime. That's probably the... What do you mean? Like fake videos of crime? Fake videos manipulating the view of a crime, placing people in places.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Maybe they weren't. And then they have to push back against something that... Everybody has the tools now and will have the tools. That's the difference, I think, between now. and the past that you're talking about? What will be evidence in the crime? And what will be evidence in the case? Like, that's, to me, the scariest part.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Everything else being like a crazy video. The question is, again, going back, I'm on Twitter. What is real that I've been watching? Well, it's happening with almost any murder case that is famous now, like that Charlie Kirk. Everything's everybody's fake. I'd say, yeah, that's eye. Well, there's another, there's this rapper called David. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:16 And there's a girl missing from Lake Elsinore. And if you look into it, no one knows what's real because you don't know if the screenshots are real. You don't know if the Discord conversation is real because everything can just be edited and everyone just keeps saying it allegedly. That to me is the biggest thing. You know, what is real, what's not real? News has never been real. I mean, how many times has Anderson Cooper been caught? He's like, I'm a knee deep in a flood.
Starting point is 00:25:41 His camera guys right there looking, okay. Like, what is real? What's not real? I don't want to get too much off at Luke, but your thoughts on that? So you bring up a great, great question with Charlie Kirk and how unnatural and how unreal all the circumstances are surrounding whatever could have very well happened on that day. And this full mystery of existence goes back to Egypt. It goes back to the origins of Christianity, how the gospel was adapted from Egyptian sun worship and how it goes back to the mystery of the sphinx.
Starting point is 00:26:18 And let's start with the sphinx and then kind of try and segue our back in segue into how the sphinx and the gospel of Jesus Christ and the crucifix and the resurrection what happens in that period of the crucifixion and resurrection, how it ties in with the sphinx. So the sphinx, for those of you who aren't familiar with the sphinx, or the sphinx is probably the old, it's probably the oldest megalithic structure on earth and no one really that has any idea how old it is. I mean, I think Dr. Robert Schock
Starting point is 00:26:47 did a fantastic job proving that it's considerably older than the pyramids, and I think he dated it as far back as he was willing to go without risking, you know, losing his career, and I admire him and applaud him for that, but
Starting point is 00:27:03 the Sphinx is very old. It's, I can say for a certainty that it predates the end of the ice age, but that's opening up. a hold another can of worms, but let's just stick with the riddle of the sphinx and how the riddle of the sphinx is when the sphinx asked Oedipus, I think it was, was it, Sophocles, a play or what have you, but anyway, the whole, the story with the relationship
Starting point is 00:27:28 between Oedipus and the sphinx and in the sphinx, when the sphinx asked Oedipus, he said, what walks on four legs in the morning, two legs at noon, and three legs at night? And Oedipus was able to solve the sphinx's riddle, and he said, well, the answer to that as his man. And then I believe the Sphinx was, you know, cast down from his or her lofty perch or into the sea, but the Sphinx perished and pretty much offered up the secrets
Starting point is 00:27:57 of Mother Nature because the answer to the riddle to the Sphinx, which the Sphinx actually represents the riddle of nature itself. The answer to nature itself, the answer to the riddle of nature itself is man. And there's a very old belief that comes out of Persia that Frederick Nietzsche
Starting point is 00:28:17 in his first book of the birth of tragedy spoke at a fair amount of detail, not terribly great detail, but he went to a considerable detail in the early part of the birth of tragedy where he said that there is a very old popular belief that came out of Persian that's connected with the sphinx
Starting point is 00:28:32 and that is that this idea of some kind of enormously unnaturally event of violation of nature is required in order to penetrate the secrets of nature. So in order to penetrate the secrets of mother nature herself, you have to violate nature. And this is a very old idea. And it has always been associated with the sphinx. That's crazy. And we kind of see it, oh, go ahead. No, no, no,
Starting point is 00:29:00 that's, I never knew that. That's so interesting to me. And it kind of segues into the story of the story of Jesus Christ. And there's a moment on the cross when Jesus says, Right before he gives up the ghost, he says, my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? And they could be some of the most, those, there's some of the most bone-chilling, scared, most horrific words ever spoken. Because in that moment, we have, we have God himself, so we have God himself, as represented as his son, calling out to his father in the heavens. And we have the creator of the universe is so taken by,
Starting point is 00:29:42 by the horror and the shock and the terror of the event that the creator of the universe actually trembles and in a moment of crisis has to look away because what's happening in the creation is too much for even God himself to face. So there's a moment of crisis where even God himself has to look away because, again, there's nothing, what is more unnatural than the killing of God? It doesn't get any more now. I mean, so obviously going circling back to Oedipus in the Sphinx, so Oedipus kills his father, there's nothing more unnatural than killing your father and he marries his mother. So there's nothing more unnatural than marrying your mother and killing your father.
Starting point is 00:30:20 And by virtue of throwing these two enormously unnatural events together, something akin to nuclear fusion occurs and mother nature herself offers up the riddle of life, the riddle of nature, which is manned. We are the answer to the enigma of existence itself. And the same thing happens with the story of Christ on the cross, where at that very moment of crisis, right before he gives up the ghost, again, even the creation of the universe has to look away because it is such an unnatural event that it really,
Starting point is 00:30:52 it penetrates into the very deepest essence of existence itself. And then once that happens, God, the sun, the sun is risen three days later. And we have the connection with the physical sun where the three days between the winter solstice on December 20th and December 25th, those. Those are the three days where the sun is neither ascending nor descending on the horizon at sunrise. So we have the symbolism and the synchronicity with the movement of the heavenly bodies embedded into the most famous story of history itself.
Starting point is 00:31:26 So these stories that, you know, they are imbued with unfathomable power and mystery if we are able to penetrate these mysteries. And it kind of works its way into what's going on with the technological singularity is well because there's a moment of crisis where people are confused and it reaches a fever pitch where people are saying, what is real? I don't know what to believe. I mean, why should I believe anything? But it's just ultimately facing, it's forcing us to confront who we are, what we are, and where we are, and what life is all about. And the fingerprints of this eternal truth are spread all throughout history. They're spread all throughout all the
Starting point is 00:32:08 megalithic structures across the planet that is coordination with with the astronomy and the movement of the heavenly bodies and it's it's overwhelming with all the different moving parts it's difficult to put the whole piece together but if you're able to peer into the mysteries and put your finger on the very quick of existence it starts taking a very definite clear shape in your in one's mind in one's in one's mind bro this is so mind blowing to me Because everyone's freaking out about what is real. And I go, nothing has been real since the first moving picture happened.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Even the first play happens. The first play is an artificial reality created on a stage. And that production has an effect on the people watching it. if the actors are great and the story is great it affects you and it begins to change how you see the world so everyone's freaking out about this AI this and AI this but it's like what was real for especially and then in quantum leaps we're talking about quantum leap right now quantum leap happened the minute you put a tell of vision in your in your house no the actors were all male I don't know if you Remember, there was no female actors.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Oh, yeah, that's even it. The Kabuki Theater. I mean, I would argue it goes back to even the first lie, you know, to original sin because, you know, someone could be acting and live in your house with you and you not know them. I mean, so, yeah, I get what you're saying. I mean, it's important. Then that's more impressive than any AI because we're as humans, well trained and
Starting point is 00:33:53 to see. Right. It's just like, I mean, you really want, so he brought up to Charlie, or you brought up to Charlie Kirk thing. I mean, what about the JFK assassination? I mean, that's like how many years ago and people are still. arguing what actually happened there because this film
Starting point is 00:34:08 by a 33rd Freemason comes out 10 years later and there's just things in it that don't make sense. What was that play, Johnny? Where they played on the radio and everyone freaked out. Oh, yeah. War of the worlds. People freaking out thinking that's real and it was just
Starting point is 00:34:24 all fake. Oh, dude. Yeah, now I mean the tools are more sophisticated now for sure technologically. Right. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it's never been the case that someone could make a video. Instead of using controlled-op human beings placed in positions
Starting point is 00:34:40 to manipulate energy. And that's why kind of this Charlie Kirk is both old school manipulation and new school manipulation. It's going to say NASA a lot of money and faking all that. Yeah. I mean, so this is
Starting point is 00:34:54 amazing to me. So, you know, the movie, I was working at a hotel, the Argyle and the Wachowski brothers were there why they were filming it and why they were editing it and I got to talk to them back when they were the brothers not the sisters and they were the nicest guys I mean I'm gonna tell you they couldn't been like they talked to a lonely valet up for like 10 minutes about like what they were doing they were the
Starting point is 00:35:20 nicest fucking cool man right and I remember going to I go whoa I didn't realize how big this was how big what was how big the movie was I mean just think about that that was a movie that really nobody expected anything from it and it had such a giant impact. It's a pivotal film. Right? It just changed everything. I was young.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Was it expected to do that or was it just a movie that was? I don't think people were looking at the Matrix as like it's going to be the I mean it was going to be a big movie but not. Yeah, but it wasn't an avatar type movie where people are like we're about to see a quantum leap in something and it was a quantum leap. But the discussion of the Matrix has been happening ever since. then they put a name on it i don't know if the matrix was the name before that but it is the matrix of the computer generated illusion around us so the question is are we seeing the birth of a matrix
Starting point is 00:36:20 within the matrix we already live in that's a great question sam and i was going to bring it up if you if he didn't go there so yeah again it's when people ask ourselves are we living in a simulation or are we living in a matrix and are we again are we witnessing the genesis of another matrix as people put all their focus and energy attention and live into the smartphones are we witnessing the genesis of a matrix within a
Starting point is 00:36:42 within a matrix and again it comes back to asking those basic questions well then well what if this is the matrix and if this is a simulation well then what or where is baseline reality like where is natural earth where is the original earth
Starting point is 00:36:59 right I mean so I mean if we're in a if we're the video game what's what's going on outside of the video game right that's that's the question it so it begs a whole mountain an iceberg of questions that i think very few people even begin to entertain asking so it because it ultimately brings us back to those first basic fundamental questions of of what is what what what is like what is what is this universe how is this universe constructed what is the very nature it comes back to the nature of being itself and again it's everything is a dream
Starting point is 00:37:34 but life is literally a dream and there are there are probably infinite worlds and you know we see a glimpse of these of these worlds in the New Testament and and Hinduism just to use two just
Starting point is 00:37:51 just two two examples and then we'll come back to your question and that is that there's a moment where the Apostle Paul says that he remembered 14 years ago when when a man was caught up into the third heaven and he was describing himself, but he didn't explicitly say that he was describing himself, but it's implied, obviously, in the text that he was describing himself, but he said, I remember a man 14 years ago being caught up into the third heaven and he saw things there that he couldn't even begin to describe or couldn't even, yeah, he couldn't even begin to describe or begin to conceive of how he could describe this third heaven once he came back to our world again. So he said that, He saw things, he saw and experienced things that he wasn't even, he didn't even begin to be equipped to describe what he saw on. There are other references where Paul says that he knows that, you know, once we, once we leave this world, that there are other worlds out there that will just make this reality pale in comparison to what we have to experience once we leave this planet. And it's not to minimize or denigrate the human experience, but we lose track of the fact that it's just, this is one world where we have an experience as a human being. that there were infinite other worlds. And there's another, the other example I wanted to use was by a holy man named Swami Sri Yugdiswar,
Starting point is 00:39:05 who was the guru of Yogananda, who reached much greater fame in the United States. And his autobiography of a Yogi was Steve Jobs of Apple Computer's favorite book. But in any case, Swami Sri Yugdiswar wrote a book titled The Holy Science in 1894, where he offers glimpses into at least seven other worlds in how, we how we get to those worlds and how we you know we have to purify our hearts that we by virtue of purifying our hearts our hearts our hearts become a stargate with the sun and from there we that's like our launching pad to to at least there are seven other worlds that the Hindu tradition based upon the beatings scriptures is is privy to but but from there it's it's
Starting point is 00:39:48 literally to infinity and beyond I mean so we are we are just beginning to scratch the surface with what we're talking about here, but all of the, I don't know to say all of it, but there are so many traces and there are so much circumstantial evidence of us being in one world within an infinite variety of other worlds throughout all of existence itself. All the fingerprints are there throughout history. It's just because that that mountain, that mountain of circumstantial evidence is so enormous that it begs the question, where do you begin to have a lot of, that conversation because there's just there's so much information there's there's so much detailed to it that it's not easy to figure out where to begin and i and i believe that
Starting point is 00:40:37 the full understanding of what's going on with the technological singularity and how well just the bible itself speaks of two singularities a singularity of darkness in the book of genesis the formless void out of which the creator creates the creation of a world of duality and from there at the end of the book of Revelation where the singularity of light as the new Jerusalem and the new heavens and new earth are descending from the heavens there described in no uncertain terms as another singularity, but this time it's a singularity of light. So we're watching or seeing our world of duality being given birth from a singularity of darkness in the beginning being transformed into another singularity of light. And the entire narrative of the human
Starting point is 00:41:19 race is told in beautiful barbaric and at times just, just infinitely, what word am I looking for, just evanescent, that's not even the right word, but just in beautiful poetry and symbolism all throughout the Bible is telling this great drama that we are experiencing. But even that in and of itself is just the blink of an eye of what we have to experience in eternity in infinity. So it's really, the biggest question for me is, where do you start? Because I think that it's, it's, you know, we start with the global conspiracy. We start with the lizard people. We could start with David Eich and the
Starting point is 00:41:56 15,000 or 10,000 pages that he's written since 1993. It's just the mound just gets bigger and bigger and bigger and just the intricacy of the detail just gets compounded and compounded and compounded. It's so easy to lose ourselves in the multiplicity of detail. But I think if we're able to put our finger
Starting point is 00:42:14 on the origin and where it begins, well then a framework starts to take shape in our mind's eye and all this chaos and all this confusion we're able to make we're able to make sense of it if we if we know where to begin guys i just want to say some i had bad credit before i got good credit now and let me tell you my life is way easier with good credit and if you have bad credit you need help and there's no better place to go to help build your credit than our good friends at eva let me tell you about
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Starting point is 00:45:11 Okay? Chow, chow. Thank you. And it's just like, that's a great bringing up. Like, what is the role? of the, we'll call them lizard people, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, are they a virus within the singularity
Starting point is 00:45:32 or within the matrix? Are they a necessary, quote, unquote, evil to test us, to learn life lessons? Like, what is their role in all this? Because it's a big reason. why we're as society in a whole is very nervous about the singularity it you know it's like if you go into like the big push right now is digital IDs well what comes with digital IDs is total control and domination we we see it coming out of China but what do we know what's real
Starting point is 00:46:13 coming out of China I mean the COVID comes out of China we just see Chinese people fall onto the street yet that never really happens here until people get the vaccine and then we see them start falling down and doing all that stuff so what is the reality what is the truth and so this this duality of light and dark and we'll sign the quote unquote lizard people the arcons whatever we want to call them the dark side of this this matrix what what do you feel is their role in that why are they here are they a necessary evil to give texture to this experience that we're having within this simulation for all i know they could just merely be a projection of the of the lizard brain of the of the r complex of the brain
Starting point is 00:47:04 right it could be it could be as simple as that it could be something else entirely but um i they and this this is a great question this is a great question this is a good This is a good point with where it's easy to get lost in the work that David Ike does. And I love, again, let me preface with it. I get it. I get it. But it's difficult, you can lose yourself in the weeds with all that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Because you ask yourself, well, then what is the agenda of the lizard people? I mean, do they, do they have poetry? Do they have architects? Do they go out in the gardens and admire the flowers and listen to the birds? Do they write sonnets in their free time? Do they have a baseball, a baseball league? Do they play football? Do they have their own movies?
Starting point is 00:47:44 as well. It's like, what, I mean, again, it just beggars so many other questions that are just dangling out there in the ether that are impossible to answer. So it's, you know, it's how many angels can dance on the head of a, of a needle. So I, I, to that point, I really don't know, but ultimately, it doesn't change the ultimate truth of reality. And that is that there is nothing but consciousness. That is what's going on with the technological singularity and how there is, it's the great wheel of time. So what we've realized is that the procession of the equinox. So we, you know, the whole, it's not necessarily a wobble, but the, the phenomenon that, you know, puts our earth with a little bit of a drag, so we move through the 12 houses of the zodiac over the course of, you know, 25,800 years, more or less, or whatever the exact numbers that don't have it available with me. But what we've realized is that the whole phenomenon, the procession of the equinox is in alignment with the Hindu Vedic concept of the Yuga, which moves through the four different ages of the saturday by Yuga, the the Treya Yuga, Devapara, Yuga, and Kali Yuga, which has its alignment with the Greek and the Egyptian and various other ancient ideas, conceptions of the golden age, the silver age, the bronze age, the Iron Age. And we see this same idea of movement, of the great wheel of time. We see it expressed all throughout history. We see it embedded into the argument that Socrates makes when he's arguing for the immortality of the soul. He bases it upon his theory of opposites. where he observed, he just, by virtue of observing the natural order, we see movement.
Starting point is 00:49:21 We see movement between polarities. We see movement, which is akin to a great circle of life that takes, well, in some cases, for the full movement through the great solar year and through a full cycle, the procession of the equinox takes the better part of 26,000 years more or less. But we also see it, we see that same cycle. we see it in the course of the day we see it in the course of the movement of the seasons but again it's just it's just moving from
Starting point is 00:49:51 from one opposite to the other from one polarity to the other again it all comes down to the reconciliation of our world of duality into another singularity and at the very root of the concept of the this is something I wanted to mention with the Yugosicle that I forgot a little bit earlier is that
Starting point is 00:50:08 at the very essence of the concept of the Yuga cycle is the regulation of consciousness. So what happens during the course of the Yugoslite. And again, we see this embedded into the stories of the Bible as well, is that over time, infinite eternal consciousness almost forgets who it is. And this kind of even dovetails with Graham Hancock's work, and where Graham says again and again that we are a species with the amnesia. And again, it's very difficult to put your finger on why do we have this?
Starting point is 00:50:41 amnesia? Why do civilizations decay over time? Why does morality decay over times? And these are not easy mysteries to unravel. But we find it in the Yuga cycle, which also finds its equal poise in our solar system going around the black hole or grand center in the Milky Way galaxy, which actually regulates consciousness over vast periods of time. And what happens, what ultimately happens is that over time, consciousness itself forgets who it is. and then it starts looking for itself and the observer forgets it's the observed and that's how we get trapped in this this psychological hall of mirrors of our world of duality where we forget who we are that there is nothing but consciousness everything is consciousness what is consciousness theory what is consciousness is god it's the great spirit that permeates all of existence that's what consciousness is man this this is awesome it's such a and we're going to remember this i mean i think more and more people are remembering
Starting point is 00:51:50 it in different ways with what's especially since the sixties with the hippie movement and the beat nix and the age of aquarius and the the idea that the the the maying calendar ending in 2012 and even a lot of evangelical christians trace their their idea of the tribulation and the rapture happening at the end of the 20th century or now into the 21st century that it's right around the corner, this idea of moving into a new age. We have so many different narratives and stories and allegories and just various stories that we tell ourselves and share with each other trying to express this, this feeling, this understanding, this sentiment. And it's not easy to explain it or express it. But more and more people, as momentum gathers, more and more
Starting point is 00:52:29 people are waking up to the ultimate unity of the universe and were things that were merely considered, you know, Wu or Cycle Babel are making a lot more sense the more we understand how this universe works, the relationship that artificial intelligence has in a historical perspective and how it's pretty much showing,
Starting point is 00:52:51 it's giving us insight into these ancient allegories that we find in the Old Testament, we find in the Hopi Indian stories, we find them, again, in the Vedic scriptures, we found them all across the world. But it's allowing us, And as you mentioned the Matrix earlier, I mean, the Matrix was just awash with symbolism from the Bible as well as other various religious traditions.
Starting point is 00:53:15 But what's happening with technology is that technology and artificial intelligence is literally showing us that life is a dream, that perception creates reality. And these phrases, again, they may have sound a little, they may have sound like Hackneyed platitudes years ago. or, but I mean, they're not anymore, I mean, they're not anymore, but it's, it's, they're, they're taking on greater and greater focused in clarity as we, as we literally see before our very eyes that we can see something that is simulated seamlessly with such precision and sophistication on our phones that isn't real, but we, but we don't know until we're told. So it's forcing us to really tangibly experience this idea that, that literally perception doesn't just influence or shape reality, the perception creates
Starting point is 00:54:03 reality. And speaking of movies and predictive programming, there was a great movie that came out back in 1992. It was titled Sneakers. And I, for some reason, I always end up telling this story at some point when I have this conversation. But it's one of the greatest illustrations came from this movie
Starting point is 00:54:19 Sneakers in 1992 with Robert Redford and Ben Kingsley and Sidney Poitiers and Big River Phoenix was in it right before he died. But there was a scene where Robert Redford is having a conversation with Ben Kingsley and they're talking about the stock market and they're talking about how how the stock market literally creates reality from from just, or excuse me, let me back
Starting point is 00:54:43 up a little bit. They're talking about how you can literally create a new market in the stock market from Holcroft and from just making up a lie from making up a rumor. I mean, so you take a company that is integral to the market internationally and hundreds of other businesses do business business with this one major business and you you just start a rumor that there's something wrong with this company that is one of the most pre-em and integral companies
Starting point is 00:55:08 globally and all these other companies tangentially do work with it as well and you just start this rumor that there's that there's something wrong with their manufacturing or distribution or production or whatever the case it would be or maybe the CEO is diddling little boys or whatever the case it would be and it has to be a complete lie and it's not true at all and this
Starting point is 00:55:24 great company is a well-oiled machine and there's nothing wrong with it's or clean the floors are clean, everybody's happy, but you just so, you so uncertainty, you, you so the rumor of that there's something wrong with this company, and then stock owners, stock, people that hold stock in this company get nervous, they start selling off, and then people that own stock in the businesses that do business with this company, they start, they get nervous and they start selling their stock, then stocks start plummeting, and then all of a sudden, from a lie, from pure whole cloth, you have literally created a new economy from nothing, from a
Starting point is 00:55:58 It's just to illustrate that that one illustration alone shows you the power of perception and if you're able to control, manipulate information on a global scale, you know, the ability to wield power is unimaginable. Yeah, I mean, look at the weapons of mass destruction. Even if we put aside the Stargate stuff and we go, we were sold that they had nuclear weapons, none of that's real. and now Iraq has a new reality we have a new reality we live with certain laws that we didn't have to deal with before I mean unbelievable
Starting point is 00:56:36 dude it's like And say it's going on an interesting rabbit hole with Iraq Part of the reason why we went into Iraq was because there were relics in the museums in Babylon that dated back to well ancient Sumeria Mesopotamian there were
Starting point is 00:56:52 there were certain relics and evidence that were in the the museums in Babylon that were absolutely priceless and you couldn't find them anywhere on Earth and it gets into the ancient astronauts genetic engineering was Zacharias Sitchin, planted in the Bureau and the reason why part of the reason why we went
Starting point is 00:57:08 into Iraq was to either one destroy those relics or to gather up all the loose ends and consulate them. They're underneath Fort Knox or whether they're underneath that Air Force base in Albuquerque, New Mexico where you can take an elevator into the earth for 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:57:24 before you know see the under earth. I mean, again, it's even if you can get on the rabbit on this, but it's also true as well. I mean, that's one of the main reasons why we went into Iraq was because there were, there were records that were only to be found in Iraq. And there's also beliefs that there, many wars, if not all wars, are about destroying the old world. I mean, just think about what World War II did to Europe and how big Europe was a giant part of our humanity. history all gone you know i mean all the areas we bombed and destroyed forever and all that knowledge is gone i mean the the the the um the library of alexandria bang all that knowledge gone i personally
Starting point is 00:58:13 think they got all the books out then they burnt it down and then they saved all that stuff and who knows what's behind and below the vatican which gets into mystery schools and this the What is your thoughts on mystery schools and what is the purpose of them? You know, I just ordered a Patrick Ewing Georgetown jersey, right? And everyone's going to lose their mind because Patrick Ewing's number was 33. I've been following Patrick Ewing since the moment he went to Georgetown. He's my favorite player. He's why I love basketball.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Because it was number 33, is that way? I guess as a five-year-old or however old I was, eight years old, I was already part of it. I mean, it's so stupid. They got to get early. But, you know, the fittest flat-earther will do his retarded. By the way, Dana sent me the fittest flat-earther video one time about this. I like, you know this guy's an idiot. And I'm the same person.
Starting point is 00:59:14 So, um, Francis Bacon. Yeah. I mean, dude. And have you heard that? Everyone says him and his wife are, are the guys who bombed. Oklahoma City. So I sent that video to him and he got all nasty with me. He's Tim McVeigh.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And the other guy, Terry Nick. And his wife is Terry Nichols. Oh, what did she say? Oh, he got so angry. He was funny. Anyways, not to bring you in on this. You don't want that. You know, you mentioned something about the mystery schools. Yes. Well, I have friends
Starting point is 00:59:44 who are, I have friends. I have Freemason friends. You know, and I talk to them all the time. like it's not what people think. It's just a club and it's fun and it's all this stuff. One of my best friends is a Freemason. And, you know, what are your take on these mystery schools? I mean, I believe that they took a turn for the dark side quite some time ago. But that being said, let's get back to the very crux of what the mystery schools and the Rosicrucians and the Freemasons were all about.
Starting point is 01:00:18 But it's about finding the God within us. That's at the very very very, essence of it is. And this goes back to Egypt and how the pyramids of Giza were places where human being. And this is something where I want to give credit to Freddie Silva's work. I don't if you're familiar with Freddie Silva, but I came across Freddie Silva through via Graham Hancock. And Graham Hancock has just been a treasure house of knowledge and information, not just with his own work, but he does a wonderful job of promoting other people's work as well, but there was a guy named Freddie Silver who did a lot of work on secret societies and what, and finding, finding the God within us and how these, how these megalithic structures are, or portals to other dimensions and other realities, whether they're out there or within our hearts or wherever the case may be. But ultimately, it's about, all the secret societies, it's about finding the God within us. And it comes back to the synthesis of Egyptian sun worship. and Christianity in the New Testament when Jesus says that, or excuse me, when the Pharisees
Starting point is 01:01:25 asked Jesus, they said, what can we see this kingdom of God? We're ready for it. You've been talking about it. You tell us that the kingdom of its kingdom is at hand, prepare ourselves, it's coming quickly. Where is it? And Jesus tells him, he says, well, he says, not by observation does the kingdom come, because the kingdom of God is within you. So what does that mean? when he says, it's not by observation. Well, what on earth does that mean? Well, it means that the kingdom of God is beyond the sensory world. So we're taking language and concepts to their very limit
Starting point is 01:01:58 to the point where just concepts and language is shattered and it's ultimately absorbed and diffused into pure spirit. It is transcribed into pure spirit. But this whole idea of finding the kingdom of God within us, heaven within us, Well, what does that mean? Is he speaking figuratively? Is he speaking literally, metaphorically? And I believe he's speaking in all those ways.
Starting point is 01:02:23 I think he literally means it. Christ literally means it when he says that the kingdom of God, heaven is within us. He means that this is where God lives. Even Don Draper and Madman, he said that Jesus either lives in your heart or he's nowhere else. Then it's easy for us to hear that. We laugh about him. We intellectually, we play volleyball with it in our heads intellectually, but to assimilate that and integrate that at the level of spirit is not easy.
Starting point is 01:02:50 But this is what the mystery schools, I think, have been trying to do since time and memorial is, I mean, there are certain techniques, there are certain ways of building architecture and positioning yourself within the architecture to attune and get yourself into the, to re-harmonize yourself with the divinity within us. I mean, that's part of the reason why we find these organs in cathedrals from the Middle Ages that are the size of buildings, basically. I mean, it's because those organs were designed to vibrate the human body into divinity, again, to put ourselves in tune with the inner divinity. But all of these, all of the teachings and all the anecdotal stories and all the enigmatic riddles, they're all designed to teach us how to find the game. God within us? And again, it comes back to what does that mean when Jesus says the kingdom of God
Starting point is 01:03:50 God is within us? It literally means that. It means that we are it, that we are what we have been looking for all this time, that it really is that simple once you put your finger on it. And then from there, it's just an infinitude of multiplicity. And just by virtue of going from a singularity to a duality, just by introducing the observer from the observer, we have an infinitesimal different, from infinitesimal perspective, just by shifting our perception incrementally, it's just one, you know, prosaic example. But by virtue of going from one to two, we have a world of novel infinite potential. So we have all these stories that are trying to tell us of the beauty and of the multiplicity
Starting point is 01:04:32 and the infinite beauty of this world and how intricate it all is. But ultimately, at its very essence, we are it. We are the enigma. We are the answer to the Sphinx's riddle. We are the answer to the riddle of nature, that we are what we have been looking for all this time. And it really is that simple, and it's not easy. It's not simple to reach that full understanding
Starting point is 01:04:56 and to come to that full knowing. That sometimes takes a full lifetime, even multiple lifetimes. But that is the mystery at the very root of existence itself, is that we are the answer. We are what we have been looking for all this time. man there is nothing but consciousness and there there are not i mean that that's it so are we living in a simulation sure are we living in a matrix sure what does that mean it means ultimately that life
Starting point is 01:05:21 is a dream and that all the stories that the ancients told us in their inscrutable ways with their inscrutable allegories and their inscrutable stories and parables they're all telling us in some fashion or other that we're what we've been looking for all this time man here's another here's a great example when Jesus says that Jesus says that there's only one way
Starting point is 01:05:45 to the father that you can't get to the father except by going through the sun well Jesus is God the sun all the symbolism surrounding the story of Jesus that is in synchronicity with the movement of the sun
Starting point is 01:05:55 and the various other planets in conjunction with the sun so there's only one way to you you can only get to God the father through the sun so Jesus is the sun God the sun is the sun you get your heart right with the sun
Starting point is 01:06:08 the sun the sun is literally a stargate to infinity. Yes. To explain all the details on that, you know, it would take, you know, more time than we have in this podcast and we'd have to go step by step
Starting point is 01:06:19 through Albert Pikes' books and David Ike's works and goes through all the alchemical texts of Cornelius Agrippa from the Middle Ages and unravel all that. And if you want to do that, Sam, we can sometime. But ultimately, that's what these stories are telling us is that we are the answer.
Starting point is 01:06:35 We are what we have been looking for all this time. And all the circumstantial evidence is telling us that but perhaps by virtue of it being so overwhelming that's why it's also so elusive as well yes this reminds me of old school tim fall hats i love this stuff it is powerful and it's just truth and it's like perception i've learned this very early in the show perception is reality and it's like what what do you see and what are you looking for and i can't tell you how many people are constantly in a state of high anxiety, state of high depression, all that stuff, because that's what they're looking for. I hate to say it. It's almost like you crave it.
Starting point is 01:07:20 No, you do crave it. You crave that kind of drama. You crave that kind of, and it's just like, listen, dude, no one's been a bigger knuckle-drager than me. Dude, drugs, alcohol, sex addictions, and like the working on unwinding that part of me has taken time but it's like it's working because I work on it all the time I'm changing what I perceive man this is a great fucking episode dude it's very it's easy for us to get be harder in ourselves but a lot of this is operating according to inevitable immutable mathematical law and by that I mean so much of our behavior and so much of our so much of what makes it so difficult for consciousness, whether it's within,
Starting point is 01:08:06 I don't know it's just physically within us, but whether it's the consciousness that moves through us or it's the greater consciousness that permeates all of existence. Part of the reason why we are so awash with fear, worry, and anxiety, and why the world has been a veil of tears for, you know, for the better part of 5,000 years, more or less, it's due to the movement of heavenly bodies, celestial bodies, and the relationship that our earth has
Starting point is 01:08:32 through the procession of the equinox and the relationship that our solar system has to the black hole that regulates consciousness and depending upon where our solar system is in relationship to the black hole that regulates consciousness it's either going to create a world where it's very difficult to achieve harmony within oneself and to find the divinity within ourselves
Starting point is 01:08:56 and define that union with the greater cosmos or it could also be much easier when we, as we move into the higher ages and we move, as we move back into the golden age, the Satya Yuga, whenever that time does happen, it's going to be much easier to make that
Starting point is 01:09:13 synchronistic connection with the divinity within us and to find the unity with the greater cosmos. But so much of what we experience a lot of it is out of our hands. And I mean, it's, I don't say that to just throw our hands up and say that we live in a completely deterministic world because
Starting point is 01:09:29 I don't believe that's the case either, but there are a lot of universal factors that are in operation that they create a mathematical framework that works that it really throws a monkey wrench into the concept of free will. Let's just say that. It makes it difficult. And I think the more we understand how it's all connected, I think it should allow us to have more grace for ourselves and more grace for. for others that we see struggling. Okay, I'm going to ask you a hard question. Oh, sure. And it's going to be a tough one.
Starting point is 01:10:07 And I'm not saying anyone gets what they deserve. That's not the point of this question. But why do bad things happen to good people? And I'm not trying to catch it. I'm not trying to catch it on anything. No, that's a good question. Let me try and answer it for you. So I thought about that.
Starting point is 01:10:28 I thought, I mean, that's what you all do. but um so if you're if you're an infinite eternal being and you have all of existence and all of eternity and all of an infinity to to occupy yourself and uh as opposed to just playing chinese checkers at the picnic table in heaven as you shuffle back and forth from the unisex bathroom what you're going to do is you are going to create a world where you can literally experience everything where you can experience joy, you can experience bliss, you can experience tragedy, you can experience heartache, you can experience redemption, and you can have all these experiences in varying degrees. You can have them in lukewarm degrees, you can have them in the
Starting point is 01:11:14 most extreme of degrees. So you would, if you, and we are, that's what, that's what, I believe that's what's happening, is that we, we are infinite eternal beings, part of infinite eternal consciousness having an experience. And within eternity, in infinity, there are certain mathematical laws that are put into place that allow for an infinite variety of experience with an infinite interpretation of those experiences. And it's not that difficult to establish a universe that operates upon mathematical principles that allow for a world of an infinite variety of experience, with an infinite variety of interpretation of those experiences as well. So to answer your question, why do bad things happen to good people?
Starting point is 01:12:01 My answer is if you had all of eternity to occupy yourself, you're going to create a world where you can literally experience everything. That's a wonderful explanation. That's a wonderful explanation. So earlier, and maybe this gets into a point you want to say, the world is coming full circle on ancient mysteries. You said something in passing earlier that these powers that be are doing, you know, are doing all this crazy stuff and eventually they're going to lose.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Is this what we're talking about? What are your thoughts on that? Yeah. Yeah, it's part of the reconciliation of our role of duality being transformed into another singularity. And it's, man, it's one of those. It's abstract. I mean, the concepts are so abstract, and I find myself it's, I try and describe it in so many different ways in my articles and in my books, and it's, it's, you're trying
Starting point is 01:13:04 to describe something that can't be adequately fully described, but to your point on that, what's happening is that, that evil itself is, is making its, I think it's making its final desperate plea to achieve power, to achieve complete power on this planet, and it will ultimately lose. But again, we come back to what, but what is evil? Where does evil come from? And it's ultimately, again, we're talking about it's the dark side of consciousness itself. I mean, it's so easy to fall into ad hominem attacks where we attack people for not having the same religious belief or political belief or whatever the case may, whatever persuasion it may be.
Starting point is 01:13:42 It's very easy to fall into that pattern and habit of attacking people. But ultimately, the very root of this, it is consciousness itself is reconciling its show. shadow. And what we're seeing is what we're seeing with the, whether it's the Illuminati, free Masonic, satanic, deep state that has ruled this world for thousands of years. It's not like they have a play, well, part
Starting point is 01:14:06 of it is, some of it they have a play, but it's not like they're just handing the torch from generation to generation, and then they, this is the rule book, this is how far we got, and this is what they've got to do step by step by step. It's more, it's the spirit that moves, it's the duality of man, it's the duality of the universe,
Starting point is 01:14:22 The light and dark, the good and evil that permeates and moves to this universe itself, has been wrestling with this during this age of the fall of man, which has its alignment with the Kali Yuga in the Hindu Vedic tradition of the Yuga cycles. The Kali Yuga is the age in which war and strife and disarmony just runs rapid on the earth. And it's, again, it's all due to the fact that as our solar system is moving around that black hole that regulates consciousness, when we, depending upon where we're at, it leads to extreme disharmony and strife. And we find itself, we find itself, we find that expressed in its most dramatic relief in these institutions of power and how they, as they centralize power, more and more
Starting point is 01:15:10 they get drunk on power, and the more power they get, the more drunk they get on power. And it's just one of those, it's just, it's just how, it's just what happens when we're, when we're living in this dark age with the fall of man, the Kali Yuga. See, there's a great example to illustrate this comes from the movie Lawrence of Arabia. You're familiar with Lawrence of Arabia, but you have Peter O'Toole 30 years old dressed up like a blue-eye blonde price-like figure in the desert leading the Arabs to victory in war. And there's a scene. So you have all these, you have all the symbolism of Lawrence of Arabia being represented and compared to. as being a Christ-like figure saving the Arabs in the desert.
Starting point is 01:15:52 But there's a moment when he's brought into a conference with some of his superiors. And they say, you know, we have this new position that we want you to take. And Lawrence of Arabia says, he says, wait, guys, he says, I'm not suited for this job. I'm not the right man. He said, he said, the other day, he said, yesterday I killed an error. And he said, I learned something about myself. He said, I enjoyed it. And he said, that's the reason why I.
Starting point is 01:16:19 I'm not the man for this job is because I enjoyed killing. And so, I mean, there's something, there's something really, there's something incredibly dark and sinister that, that, that lurks in the, in the, in the, in the human soul during these dark ages, where if it has the opportunity to, has the opportunity to exert power and control and to inflict pain, it's, it's, man, it's one of those, I hate to even articulate it in words, but it's one of those itches that, if people find their way into positions of power within these
Starting point is 01:16:51 institutions that rule the world they just want to exert they just want to get off on it man it's just it's organic I mean inflicting inflicting suffering on others unfortunately there are people that derive a lot of pleasure from that it's powerful
Starting point is 01:17:08 it's it's orgasic and it's it's one of those unfortunate truths that we have to we have to face and reconcile it's so interesting and you know i said this a long time ago and i still believe it it's like i don't care if you're larry fink or klaus schwab or whoever netting yahoo whoever you think it is at the head of the thing i think nan yahoo's a puppet but you know nothing is bigger none of those
Starting point is 01:17:39 guys no matter how powerful they are are bigger than the universe they're all still you know it's like kind of that um i forget the movie with the the mystery the mystery men what was it with with the uh giant blue guy who was like a god you remember you're not the watchman the watchman where he talks about the smartest man in the world is still a fly to him right dr manhattan or something yeah that either the smartest man the world is a fly and to me the most evil man in the world is still a fly to the universe right and that there's a there's a there's one universal rule and that is love and love conquers all and it's an old saying and it sounds like some hippie shit but really is like once you get into the the the understanding of love and spreading love and giving it away
Starting point is 01:18:38 and helping you know one thing i want to teach my daughters is like your goal in life is to help others achieve their goals. That's how you flourish in this whole thing. And so when you say they're going to lose, I totally agree with that. And it seems really dark. And it seems, and this whole of manufacturing reality of like they can do whatever they want and there's no repercussions. It's like right now. But do you think they're the first ones who've tried to control man? Do you think in the thousands of thousands of years that man has existed that there hasn't been someone who tried to control everything and they fail miserably they always fail they fall and then they regroup and then they do it again and this is again the cycle of like consciousness of
Starting point is 01:19:24 everybody's experience everybody's here to experience something else and that can get very dark when you see what's happening like saying palestine and you're like but man that to me as a much better explanation than anything people you know know it's like my sponsor says in recovery like i don't want to rob you of your spiritual your spiritual experience you know and that doesn't mean i accept it or i think it's right um but that makes that's a really great understanding of that i want to get into the nature of reality and the nature of consciousness can you tell us a little bit about that can you be a little bit more well a little thing is like the nature of reality the nature of
Starting point is 01:20:10 consciousness, you wrote, artificial intelligence and its ability to simulate reality seamlessly is revealing truths about the universe that may be shocking, but have a long time coming. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Did you like these notes or did Mark write these notes? Sorry. No, no, no, no, no, it's fine. Let me think. Let me just let me gather my thoughts for a second. By the way, you're crushing this. Oh, well, thank you. You really are. This has been one There's something that happened for me just recently when I actually read Albert Pike's Morals and Dogma twice, and I don't know how familiar you are with Gnosticism, but I was vaguely familiar with it, maybe over the better part of 20 years.
Starting point is 01:20:58 I started reading William Blake, the poet, the British poet from the early 19th century when I was in college. I have his complete poetry and prose on my bookshelf. I have the exegesis of Philip K. Dick. the great eccentric science fiction writer who probably had upwards of 20 of his novels and short stories developed into movies and he wrote a book or he wrote, excuse me, he wrote something called the Exidicist
Starting point is 01:21:26 and a fraction of it, maybe a thousand pages of a 9,000 page work was eventually expurgated heavily to try and remove some of the most zanious parts from and just maybe distill it down to its essence. But that was only a, a thousand pages and that dealt with Gnosticism as well and Albert Pikes morals and dogma is upwards of a thousand pages as well and William Blake's complete poetry and prose is almost a thousand pages as well and something happens and even if you put those three together as a trifecta there you have a
Starting point is 01:21:57 maybe a thousand a three thousand pages of an introduction to to Gnosticism that just begins to scratch the surface of of the of the of the nature of reality and the nature of being but But what it boils down to is that we're trying to describe language, even math. I mean, math is a much more precise language, but it's much more harder to understand it and to shake some, have some visual concrete image in our minds of what's going on with mathematics. And it's easier to paint a picture and to paint a picture in a story with language. but language is much more precise than math. But what I've realized, the more I study Gnosis and especially as I'm looking into Albert Pike is that all this knowledge comes from, it ultimately comes out of Egypt, and it comes from hieroglyphics, it comes from hieroglyphics, it comes from the Sumerian-Canada-form tablets, it comes from where even all numbers are merely pictograms of behavior and phenomenon and operations that happen at the,
Starting point is 01:23:09 just the basic level of existence itself. I mean, you take the number is zero and one. Well, one, you have one is a straight line extending out to infinity forever, and the circle is representing the great wheel of time. It could represent the procession of the equinox, the great solar year, the yoga cycles. Also, if you have a circle that's large enough, any two points in that circle would appear to be a straight line. If you extend the, if you extend the visual picture far enough.
Starting point is 01:23:38 But what we're doing with language and even numbers themselves is we're trying to describe something that that cannot be fully grasped in, as a human being on the three-dimensional temporal plane. It can only be approximated. It can only be described with language. So when John says that in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God, so God is the word is the word. So the breath is the word. So we can even bring this back to the big band, you know. So if there's some small, indescribably small, inconceivably heavy and dense point at which the universe began, trying to put that into symbolism and a visual representation that we as human beings can somehow or another try and visually conceive of that,
Starting point is 01:24:31 the first thing that happens is there's a breath out. So something breathes out. the universe breathes out, the very first moment of creation would inevitably be something that we could, the best description for it via language would be to describe it as a breath. And from the breath, well, then we, from breathing, we start forming a word of some kind, whether that first word was om or whatever the case may be. Then we have a word. So everything that, if we study esoteric knowledge, we study narcissism, we're studying the nature of being in language
Starting point is 01:25:04 and the relationship that words and numbers and hieroglyphics and all the way that the megalithic structures are in coordination with astronomical coordinates in the heavens and with the relationship that it has with the procession of the equinox all we're merely doing with language and numbers is is describing something that can only be grasped via via the spirit and I hope that doesn't sound like like an evasion but because I I don't believe it is. but when we're here in this physical plane all we can do is merely describe what is what is ultimately ineffable and um it gets back to why it didn't we like for example i mean in the book of genesis
Starting point is 01:25:49 where was it on i guess one was it after the sixth day where god says and god was pleased with the creation and god said and god saw it and he said it was good and we were we were created out of god's likeness and interpret that however you want to take it but the whole idea of of not so much being, I mean, yes, we're created in his image and created in his likeness, but the way it's worded is that we are, the microcosm is the macrocosm. We get into Michael Talbot in the holographic universe. And again, so I'm talking about where do we find that launching point from which to, to understand or to even begin to understand the multiplicity of the infinitude of variety in this universe.
Starting point is 01:26:26 But it ultimately boils down to that all we can do on the temporal plane is merely described with approximations via language and numbers what is ultimately can only be comprehended in the spirit which which gets back to the question of why was this world created in the first place and I think from a lot of different reasons
Starting point is 01:26:49 and it would be hard for me to sit down and catalog all the bread trail from which I came to this conclusion but I believe that this world was created for pleasure that the physical world was created for pleasure because there are certain pleasures that can only be had with a body, with a human body.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Whether it's cheese burgers taste good, orgasms, feel good, and dipping your toes in the water at the beach and a sunny place, it's nice. And then even the whole game of forgetting who we are and then studying the bread trail and picking up the bread trail and trying to put all the pieces of the puzzle together to figure out just what the hell is going on here,
Starting point is 01:27:27 it's a game. It's a game. I mean, ultimately it was, it was, it was created for pleasure and then somewhere along the line over long expanses of time we forgot because we are merely infant we are merely avatars of god of infinite eternal consciousness having an experience and over long periods of time we forgot why we created this world but then over time we remember why we did it and ultimately i think we're going to realize that the forgetting was all part of the game as well yeah because if we get reborn with all the
Starting point is 01:28:00 knowledge we're just what are we going to experience what what are you going to do like exactly so if you're born into this world with having all the answers to the all the mysteries of existence when you're born when you're born into this world what are you what are you going to do i mean where where's where's the entry where's where's the adventure would you say that's where deja vu jumps in would you say that's where deja vu jumps in maybe maybe it's like you've experienced that before and you know it's like i i battle uh glut uh glut uh glut you know like indulging in my vices a lot and and you know it's so funny as i go in this spiritual journey i look at all the sins and i go yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep and it's it's that
Starting point is 01:28:45 this kind of belief that you know these are things that if over time has been learned if you indulge too much of this and that obviously we're not talking about murder murder's awful put that one to the side and we all agree that's bad but all these other things are just if you do it too much it causes energy like and maybe even dark dense material energy which is low vibrational so it's like is sex bad no is if banging everything that moves there seems to be some kind of energy with that that can get out of control eating too much you get too fat lying too much nobody trust you right trying to bang your friend's wife bad idea these are just kind of like kind of rules if you kind of look at them and apply them to your life the best you can which to me
Starting point is 01:29:48 is kind of like grand theft auto what can you do what you can't do you know or whatever video game you're playing there's certain things if you do more of it you you win you do you do more of the bad stuff you lose that's what it seems like it to me and that fits to me in the simulation for sure matrix all that shit i also feel like the elite what do you guys of view before i mean i don't mean there are but i wanted to come to it before i forget because it was a great point you mentioned deja vu and i think what deja vu intimates to is that in the new testament alone there are 147 verses that make some reference to in order for the scriptures to be filled to be fulfilled this had to happen or in order for it is written therefore this has to happen so it really begs the question why why did the authors of the new testament which is really it's not that long of a volume why did they find it necessary on at least 147 occasions to mention that something was happening according to a script in order to fulfill the scriptures this had to happen it's literally 147 occasions why why why why why why Why is that necessary?
Starting point is 01:30:54 I mean, there's, so there's something going on here that's, it's just unbelievably mysterious and it's, it's, it's, it's enigmatic, it's, it's all those things, but ultimately, it's also telling us that life, life is a movie dream. I mean, everything has to, in order, in order to maximize the, the adventure and the, the excitement and the intrigue, and, and to follow the great drama, and to enjoy the drama the most, it's not, it was written prior in order to maximize the, and, the excitement. the dream it had to have been written you know it's interesting there's a big discussion right now that all these world events going on is these crazy elders trying to fulfill prophecies and follow
Starting point is 01:31:39 script you hear that all the time like none of this is naturally happening all of this is manipulation which just goes back again to what we're talking about what is real what is not real but it's like all they're following a script that fits in the manly p hall said that a hundred years ago in the secret teachings of all ages he said that there were a certain group of immortal elites that kept on reincarnating to come back into this world trying again to to correct what they perceived was the error of creating the world of duality by the demire so they believe that a small g created this pale imitation earth that is not baseline reality but it was a something like a digital imperfect copy of
Starting point is 01:32:21 of original baseline earth was created by an inferior small G. Demiurge God and that they believe that these immortals have been reincarnating over and over again in order to correct that error. Ergo, the new world order the one world order, which is
Starting point is 01:32:37 at the very root of the global conspiracy is which is the great work of the age is ultimately designed to correct what they perceive as the world of duality transforming it into another singularity, into another unity. So this whole idea, it dovetails with what's going on with the singularity.
Starting point is 01:32:55 And to just to even further deepen the intrigue is that in the book of Revelation in chapter 20, I think it's verse 4 and verse 7. So it states it twice in the third to last chapter of the book of Revelation, the last book of the Bible. It says that before the new heavens and the new earth and before the new Jerusalem descends from the heavens, the devil will be set loose on the world for a short season to deceive the world. right before we move into the next age, right before the world of duality
Starting point is 01:33:24 is transformed into another singularity of light where God will be that temple and he will reign forever and ever and those of us who have his name written on our foreheads, which I believe is infinite, eternal God consciousness, complete union with the universe. But nevertheless, the Bible itself tells us
Starting point is 01:33:40 that right as the world is moving into the next age, whether it's completing a great wheel of time or it's just moving into the next age, within the procession of the, within the 12 houses of the Zodiac, something crazy happens within the transitional stage into the next stage. And so we're seeing this, and the devil, I mean, what the devil is obviously the father of all lies, and he represents deception and universal deceit. And I think there's no greater, more apt term to describe our world today than a world awash with universal deceit.
Starting point is 01:34:17 So the Bible and very cryptic, enigmatic symbolism in language is telling us exactly what's happening right here if we're able to read the tea leaves. So, I mean, if it's a game and the elite know it's a game, wouldn't some people treat it like Grand Theft Auto and be bad? They seem like they are. That's what I'm saying. They just don't care of like. Yeah. Because some of us would treat like good people and be like, hey, I'm going to be a good person in this game. And if they know it's a game, we're like, why not go murder people?
Starting point is 01:34:46 I get to relive it again. if you had that evil mindset. Yeah. I mean, again, this is everybody's spiritual experience. It's where all the revelation of the method stuff comes in, right? Because that's part of the rules of the game.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Yeah, and the whole thing about maybe karma coming in, like in the last life, you were an awful person in this life. You feel the blunt force of awful people. And I'm not saying everyone deserves what to happen to them. I'm not saying that all. It's way more complex than that, but it's super interesting. Are you a don't go into the light guy?
Starting point is 01:35:25 We always have to about that. Oh, yeah, that's it. Are you a don't go into the light guy? Like the whole theory of, you know, the canon. I know. Go ahead. I'm sorry. It's a spot on my face.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Go ahead. But what is your thoughts on that? Like, you know, you die and all of a sudden your grandma shows up. And she's like, come with me. And it's really an arc on. You should punch your grandma on. I don't want to go in there. Yeah, I mean, again, I think it comes back to the fact that once people know what we are, who we are, where we are, once they understand that the very essence of what life itself is, is that we are literally God himself, herself, herself, experiencing itself in eternity and infinity, and that we're playing hide, it's just merely God, infinite, eternal consciousness, playing hide and seek within the creation.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Once people really get that at a cellular level, once they are able to. fully integrate that into the into the spirit, there's nothing to be afraid of. There's literally nothing to be afraid of. And to you, there was a point, one of those guys mentioned comparing it to Grand Theft Auto
Starting point is 01:36:30 where if you know that you're in a video game They're killing it today, because they know it's just the game. So when they die, they're just going to be reborn into another world or this world or whatever the case may be. But there's something that, again, Frederick Nietzsche says that this world,
Starting point is 01:36:43 and I think this applies to the fall of man, the Kali, Yuga, The dark age that we find ourselves in, again, this is all in conjunction with the precession of the equinox and where our solar system is in relationship to the black hole that regulates consciousness in our universe, in our solar system. It comes back that when we are in this dark age, which I believe has been going on for the better part of at least 5,000 years. I mean, it's an approximation, but I think that's a pretty fair ballpark figure,
Starting point is 01:37:13 that within this dark fallen age, the will to power, is writ large on on the face of existence where Frederick Nietzsche said that that the world is merely a will to power and nothing else and I think that it's true to a great extent and I think it's true in a manner of speaking
Starting point is 01:37:31 I wouldn't take it literally to its most extreme well maybe I would sometimes depends upon what side of the bed I got up that morning I guess but no it's true I mean this world and we see it especially within the church and the state this exertion of the will to power it just I mean people just get off on it it's it's so much I mean people get so much more pleasure
Starting point is 01:37:51 from that than they do anything else it's it's exerting the will to power over other people but I think that I I do believe and I I do believe that only applies to when we're in this this fallen age this this dark age that we're in that we are rapidly moving out but I think that just applies to this current I do agree with that I do believe that the darker it gets the sooner it's over yeah because at some point it's just going to break and fail you cannot you cannot live in a world of low vibrational hate and power and all that stuff when love is the answer to everything that's my humble opinion and they will and there is a price to pay for that in a karma type way man luke absolutely amazing absolutely amazing
Starting point is 01:38:45 So, Luke, let's say people listen to this and they're blown away and I know they are because, you know, they resonate with us and we've been blown away on this episode. Which one of your books is closest to what you've discussed tonight today with us? Excellent. Yeah. So, I mean, I've written three books. There are two that I've written two short ones on the technological singularity. Each one's 100 pages. They're more of, they're philosophical treaties. I say they're relatively, they're relatively dense and they're not. But, I mean, I just, I shared them with a handful of my friends that also, that study fields in relationship to what I'm doing with the, with the cyclical nature of time and kind of bringing in what's going on astronomically with the metaphysics and the spiritual, metaphysical truths that we find in all religions and all philosophies. So there were two that I read, the two that I mentioned in the beginning, we are at the return of pure cosmic consciousness is one. and then into the Great Beyond the return of pure cosmic consciousness
Starting point is 01:39:47 they're each 100 pages and there's a reason why I split them up and if anyone once people read them they'll recognize why I split them up into two volumes but those two they fully encapsulate what we've been talking about here and beyond I've written a much larger philosophical
Starting point is 01:40:03 work that I also have for sale on Amazon I'm not marketing that one right now I mean this is this is what I want to yeah there's so there's the website into the great beyond we are at Those are the two that I would, those, I completely, it's been a while since I, I finished those. I think into the Great Beyond, it's been almost a year since I, I finished that. I have not once felt the need to go back and revisit the text and make any revision.
Starting point is 01:40:28 So I feel really good about those. Those are the two that will, I think, should open people's mind, fully open people's minds to what I'm talking about with the technological singularity and how it's been predicted and how its fingerprints can be found all throughout history. history. The Musings of David Pugh, finding the tree of life again, that's a much longer autobiographical, philosophical work. It's more or less the long road out of hell that allowed me to distill the truths that I put into We Are In and into the Great Beyond. And then also there are links to the articles that I had published on Graham Hancock's site. They can find them on that website as well. I think they're under where to start. If you click on where to start, you'll see Michelangelo.
Starting point is 01:41:11 There's an article on the creation of Adam, mathematics and the creation of Adam on the Sistine Shackle. Oh. They can, so there's a certain vanishing point that you have painted into the picture, the painting of the creation of Adam there. So I kind of get into how that's a visual representation of the singularity. And then there's an other article that focuses more on the Vedic scriptures and the Yuga cycles.
Starting point is 01:41:39 I ask the question, there are two yuga cycles, if there are two yucasubbles, kind of gets into the concept of the dual star, which is, it's another idea. I mean, it's not always good to introduce new ideas at the end of a conversation. But nevertheless, there was a very intriguing hypothesis that I believe has a lot of evidence that was introduced by Swami Sri Yuccas, who are in the introduction to the holy science, evidence that we have that we're living in a dual star.
Starting point is 01:42:05 There's a man named Walter Crudendon out of Greater Los Angeles, has a now do you break down all these teachings oh go ahead I'm sorry I'm kind of getting off no it's totally fine uh we go up go up a little bit so you have the Bible you have the Vedic scriptures of ancient India like if we click those do those take us to
Starting point is 01:42:29 or can you oh no no no those are just kind of that's just giving the briefest of introductions to what my what the books are about okay man great episode with Luke. Great episode. Well, all the links below. Thank you so much. I could talk to you for hours, man. You have an open door to come back anytime if you want to get into some of the other stuff you were talking about. It was absolutely amazing. One of my favorite episodes of all
Starting point is 01:42:55 time. And we appreciate you coming on, dude. Thanks for doing that. And let's break down the episode. All right. What did you guys think of Luke? Great guy. Great guy. You asked, dude, that guy loved you interviewing. I've been killing lately. He's like, that's a great question, which makes me think he, Mark makes up to questions. You think I call Mark before I get in here? I'm like, Mark, what should I ask? Mark, what could I ask, bro?
Starting point is 01:43:19 So when they're joking about firing you, I'll push back. You're welcome, Mark. What's that joking? Are we live? Are we recording right now? Yeah, dude, that episode was Pure Fire. Pure Fire. Really, really opened my eyes to shit.
Starting point is 01:43:39 like all we know right now is what's in here is real not even that really i mean you know what you think x g's an ai i you well i'm what is it there's i can't remember is it like nietzsche or some one of these fucks it's it's like you can really only ever know what that you exist you know what i mean that's it because even that even what i could say could be lying well we know yeah that's we assume that's the truth we go with that because that's what johnny said we went into how how how how How deep, how long has reality not been real? And Johnny said ever since we started lying.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's a form of misrepresentation of reality, right? Distortion of reality. I mean, even senses, like, people have found that my perception of the color, blue, is not necessarily the same as yours. Like, you may see blue and as something different. Think about colorblind people. Yeah. They lived an entire life. If you didn't tell them that they were colorblind, you know, they would go around thinking
Starting point is 01:44:38 that blue was. well, that thing, you know, that weird makes. Well, I mean, like, that gets into my discussion of, uh, doctors. Doctors only regurgitate what they've been told. Yeah. Well, what if that's wrong? They're only telling you wrong shit. Well, it was for almost all of history.
Starting point is 01:44:58 And even now, I would argue, uh, that, I mean, they used to be a lot more wrong, you know, back when they was like, oh, yeah, yeah, dude, you got demons in your brain. Let's just crack a hole in there and we'll let them out. Yeah. thanks doctor appreciate that now okay listen as a doctor i've been in doctor 30 years i've studied for seven years i've done this before we're going to drill a hole in your head yeah just and we're just going to let the demons tiny little hole tiny little hole let them out let that demon okay and then we're just so you right up yeah just so you right up gonna bleed you that's what they were
Starting point is 01:45:29 doing like what was it was it washington on his deathbed the part they think they really helped him die by just draining all his blood out bro because they thought that that was the way to get the poison out, you know, just drain his blood out. Drain his blood and we'll put it back in. Horrible. No, they don't put it back in. No, of course, Johnny. Dehydrated. You know, and then sped his...
Starting point is 01:45:50 It's like, before we do this, give me those teeth. Spit them out real quick. It's just not working. We're drained all his blood out. He's dying. Roll them up. Roll them up. Squeeze it all out.
Starting point is 01:46:00 Yeah, like a toothpaste, dude. Yeah. That's so funny. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy, dude. But nothing's real. And once you realize that, it's real. It's like, I think I'm going to go on take off X for two hours off my phone. Put it right back there.
Starting point is 01:46:15 I like with that, dude. I know, dude. I'm fighting. But it made me realize that I'm just fighting useless shit. Like, I always make fun of the progressive fighting windmills. What if I'm fighting windmills? You're tilting at windmills, Sam. Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 01:46:30 What's that? You're tilting at windmill, windmills. Windmills. Yeah, I started more retarded, as you said it more and more. it's my southern my southern accent comes out i love it dude people love your many different voices yeah it's wait dude i my my oh hell no i pay i got an extension on my cheques that was so funny that hold on that was the other show yeah that oh yeah yeah yeah shit we'll have to bring that out later uh yeah dude when i i went away to like some kind of youth camp in dc when i was
Starting point is 01:47:04 in i don't know probably middle school late middle school and i had a pretty heavy southern accent before that and i was around all this like euro trash people from new york and everything yeah and then my mom just called me on the phone one day and i just didn't have i had like a non-regional dialect all of a sudden i just started talking with a normal oh really and yeah and i was johnny you're a mimic well she tells this story that i like gaslit the family i was like i don't know what you guys are talking about this is just how i talk now and because if you hear there are videos of me as a kid you know like hey y'all what's going on. I'm riding
Starting point is 01:47:40 my horse. Johnny, now when you got in the phone of your family, do you get really Southern? Hey, y'all. House mom, pa. People who are used to being around me, hear me on the phone of my family, and it's more, yeah, I go into that a little more, but it's not on purpose. It's just kind of
Starting point is 01:47:56 slip into it. It's just your fact. Listen, we're going to get back to it. Go to samtriplea.com. Go to events. Tulsa, Oklahoma, Oklahoma City. Austin. Guys, it's looking like Sunday is the last day. I think there's a couple for the Saturday Late Show. I got my
Starting point is 01:48:12 ticket. But Sunday is the big day and I think there's only 100 seats there. Wish I could take credit for it, but it really is the club. Skangfest in New Orleans. You go up against Dwight Yolkham on Saturday night, so at
Starting point is 01:48:27 Austin City Limits. Oh shit. But I sold it out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Fuck you, Dwight Yolk! No, I have nothing against Dwight Yolkham. No, he's great. I might go if I can't get a ticket to Saturday. No, I respect that. Las Vegas is coming up, grab your tickets. Tickets are actually moving for that.
Starting point is 01:48:43 I'm very surprised this early. Tickets are moving pretty quick. Grab them now. Minneapolis is coming up and then the dojo of comedy. Now the big secret show that I was going to do, that looks like it's being moved to the second week in January. So I will let you know. Wait, the one you told me about on BS?
Starting point is 01:49:02 Yeah. Okay. So it looks like, because. some people want to come in with some cash and nice we'll see i believe it when i see it knock on what either way it's it's going to happen uh if you go samtribby dot com guys listen to me some of you guys are watching this on youtube you're getting banged with a bunch of ads i don't know what to i i can't it's youtube
Starting point is 01:49:25 dude this is what youtube's doing they want you to buy the premium content so you don't get a thousand thousand ads i you know it's like they're killing us on doom scroll. I've got to figure out how to fix that. But if you want premium content, I'm going to do one tonight. I've been putting out three. This week has been bad, but I put out three a week. It's deep dives into
Starting point is 01:49:46 the deepest of deep. So check that out. Tell them that you got your second episode with. Oh, Kurt Matsker. We did our second episode. Go down and see what everybody says. Go down to the comments. Go down the comments. That's brave. Happy you guys kept doing this. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Some people didn't think I could keep up with Kurt. He is, he is fast. You have to get in why you can. You got jab, jab, jab, jab, jab. Go there, keep going down. Keep going down. Johnny, talk about cash daddies.
Starting point is 01:50:18 Yeah, yeah. How he has been, there's an opportunity right. Whoa, that's a huge jump, Johnny. Did we have, did we go? Was that like 15-something last? Oh, wow. Nice. Oh, congrats.
Starting point is 01:50:32 That's a huge jump. Yeah, we, uh, very, yeah, I mean, just can't stop. Well, he doesn't say what he's doing with it, though. So that's, that's just the ticker. So, but yeah, he's, he's had some plays that have hit. And then there's a real opportunity if you want to get there now to get it on something. Because we have, we're banking that the economy is going to take a little downturn here pretty soon. We're banking fatties.
Starting point is 01:50:54 Uh, go back to samtripple.com. Uh, go back. Chaos Twins coming. Love it, dude. So excited for the next episode. Probably going to do a third episode. depending on how this episode goes and then go back uh guys check out the live longer formula dude christian you're done off are you tired of being fat and tired all the time which i am i need to get into it need to check out christian i need to get dana to cook me non-fat foods
Starting point is 01:51:25 because you're trying to make me unhumpable okay and it's working i'm so fat and tired all the time I know it's funny at lunch I got pizza guys and I'm like I can't eat that bro you're gonna kill me Dana but that's your plan Christian's got a whole system to help you get in shape
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Starting point is 01:51:59 yeah I've known it and it's it's really hurt my ability to get better because I keep telling myself I suck. Oh, come on, dude. You can't have negative self-talk. I know, but it's just like I'm so fat and tired, but I love it. But I love chemical-free body. It's great for me. Dude, I can feel it when I don't take it during the week. I feel it. When I don't take it that day, I'm like, oh, I'm so tired. I didn't forget to take my supplements. So we love Tim James, and we love his product. And then we're going to go, dude, our boy i mean asking some of the best questions ever it's week on this week i'm on yeah we can tell us if you want to microdose and ask great questions like our boy xg go to
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Starting point is 01:53:23 2030 bucks for some hats and some beanies. Get over there. So going back to the show, I mean, if you listen to the show and you, apply what you learned, just don't let anything loose jack you. I mean, just don't get lost into it. What do you think about people who say? Because anytime it's inevitable, and I love everybody who listens to the show, literally all of you. But some of the people that follow me on Instagram, now I can't post like going to concerts without getting a bunch of, like, oh, they're just jacking your loose, buddy. They're just taking your energy. I'm like, no, I'm having a great time.
Starting point is 01:53:55 I'm having a great time. I'm the one who is fulfilled and gets energy. What do you think about it? When he brings up Nazism, there's going to be people who have a giant reaction to that. I just don't think you can say like one thing is 100% the only way. I agree. I think we've been around so long. I think there's so many manipulations involved. I mean, if he's like Jesus's, Jesus taught us this, okay, we can meet in that commonplace, right? Jesus and just this understanding.
Starting point is 01:54:26 But, dude, he blew my mind about how this is a false reality created, right? Yeah. And that fits into that we're energy and we're batteries and that the Dem A urge created this and that there's actually a number one God with a real reality. And this is a false reality that we're trapped in. Dude, how crazy is that? Because what do you say? This is where God comes in place hiding seek or something like that.
Starting point is 01:54:54 And I was like, well, that was nice. it does make you wonder if i mean it's just different words for what's in the bible though like you know garden of eden is where is that maybe that base reality you know that real where and then we chose you know through original sin to descend to to whatever this is and then you know after death you return to heaven and then eventually we'll have a new heaven and a new earth which will be the reformation of that original reality it's it's crazy what's describe in the vibe on you. Respect on that, dude.
Starting point is 01:55:29 I loved it, dude. I thought it was one of the best episodes we've ever done. Those are my jams. I really like it. And the whole point of this is don't get lost in the AI is going to control and destroy everything. It's, you know, AI is a tool.
Starting point is 01:55:45 But maybe AI is the universe evolving. It's possible. I don't think, to kind of follow up on what I said during the show, you know, the Turing test, like when you had that explained, you as a kid. The idea was like you were in a blind and across from you is either a
Starting point is 01:56:02 computer or a person that you interact with and if you can't tell that thing is like reliably tell whether it's a human or a computer then it passes the test as an and now they do that all the time. Yeah they do it all the time but
Starting point is 01:56:18 you wouldn't say that that's the equivalent not even people at the time when they heard that they were like oh well that's going to be a human then on the other side but the equivalent Chat GBT, GBT, you would never say is, like, anything close to, it's not smart enough. You can, like, get shit wrong all the time. It's, it's not. But this is like the basic bitch area.
Starting point is 01:56:36 Yes, exactly. Part of AI. I agree. That's why. The new stuff they start rolling out is just going to be mind-blowing. So they say. Yeah. But I, but even this, I thought would be more impressive.
Starting point is 01:56:47 And it's just, I don't know. I thought when something passed a turn, that would be a real milestone, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure anymore. I think we may have a way to go. Well, I thought it was a great episode. on the consumer. Hope you guys enjoyed it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Check out these highlights. Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. He got fired from the Riaja? Yeah. Tim Dillon. I didn't know that. Yeah. Wait, did he talk about this?
Starting point is 01:57:09 Yeah. And I guarantee it it was his appearance on Rogan and then the Max Blumenthal. Let's see if I can find a clip of it. Let's address it out of the gate. Let's talk about the biggest, free speech issue right now in the world
Starting point is 01:57:30 let's tackle it head on everyone is talking about it everyone wants to know what it means I was fired from the Riyadh Comedy Festival it is the most important
Starting point is 01:57:49 free speech news everybody has a take everyone has an opinion It's inescapable. He looks good in that blow. It comes up. You're at a christening. You think you're safe.
Starting point is 01:58:02 You're not. Did you hear comedian, podcaster, Tim Dillon fired from Saudi Arabia's first comedy festival. Shocking developments. What does it mean? What does it mean? I'll tell you how it went down. And then we'll address that thing at ABC with kids.
Starting point is 01:58:26 I also heard there's an issue there. But my agent called me and told me, first of all, I'm going to, I'll lay out the whole thing. I was supposed to perform in Dubai. I mixed up Dubai and I said Abu Dhabi. Apparently this is a big deal over there. This is like a real problem. Oh, that's serious. And he goes, you sit on Joe Rogan that you are performing in Abu Dhabi, and you're actually performing in Dubai.
Starting point is 01:59:01 They're cities and they have a rivalry. And I go, Saudi Arabia and Dubai aren't the same place. No, no. So I've been saying Saudi Arabia forever. No, Riyadh is in Saudi Arabia. Oh, okay. Dubai is in UAE, I believe, right? Yeah, but.
Starting point is 01:59:15 And so is. So this is in the Saudi Arabian, this is a Saudi Arabian show? Riyadh is in Saudi Arabia. So this is where they're performing. Yeah, but he's talking. about Dubai and Abu Dhabi were both in the United Arab Emirates. But he's even getting it wrong by saying
Starting point is 01:59:30 Dubai, right? Well, I don't, I think he's talking about something else. I don't think so. Unless the Riyadh comedy festival is in UAE. I don't know, that's possible, I suppose. I don't know why you would name it after a different city. Riyadh, yeah, it's very weird. Hold on. But he might, I think he's talking about something else here, where he offended.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Boulevard City is where it is going to be. No, it's in Saudi Arabia. Yeah, Saudi Arabia. is already confusing. Go on. I made a mistake. This is not a malicious slander. It's a mistake. He goes, well, they're very angry, and they send
Starting point is 02:00:06 an email that you need to be controlled. I said, well, good luck. You think that's what they were angry at? Yeah. I don't care. Well, he's talking about this other date, though. He called me a few days later, and I thought he was going to talk about the Kimmel thing. I thought he was going to talk about the Kimmel thing.
Starting point is 02:00:24 Um, but he called me and he said there, they heard what you said about them having slaves. Yeah, okay. I was being positive about it. I was defending them. He goes, well, I know that. I know you were defending them. I said, I was defending them for having slaves. I literally said slaves are probably hard workers and for the most part agreeable.
Starting point is 02:00:51 But they didn't like that. You can literally support somebody too much. I've learned this. You could actually, by the way, in life this happens. Too many compliments, too much, too much support, and then they turn on you. I was saying that slaves were proud of some of the buildings they built. That's what I was saying. I was saying that if I was a slave
Starting point is 02:01:21 Not that I want to If I was a slave I'm sure you'd be a slave in some stuff And I built a really nice thing I might say to my slave children Daddy built that That's what I was saying That I would have said
Starting point is 02:01:36 Hey daddy built that When my slave children said oh look at that I'd say you know daddy built that I was going That angle apparently this got to the people in Saudi Arabia and they were unhappy about it
Starting point is 02:01:54 they're huge fans of comedy over there now I am very clear about the way I will do a gig if I accept a gig I am not going to break the rules of the gig meaning I respect that Amish people call me they go Tim we're going to pay you a lot of money we want you to perform in the Amish
Starting point is 02:02:18 Pennsylvania Dutch country but we're Amish so we don't want to hear about iPhones or Kalshi which they should hear about it's phenomenal this Kalsi we'll get to it later but if that was a rule I would respect it while I'm there
Starting point is 02:02:37 while I'm in Pennsylvania Dutch country eating shoe fly pie respecting their culture you have a culture you've got Sharia law would I like Sharia law no I don't want it yeah what do you think about
Starting point is 02:02:54 so you can't live your life thinking about a date you're going to do a month from now where you might offend those people before you do the show this is what we're getting into Johnny and I've said this forever and I experience this on a smaller level in a weirder way
Starting point is 02:03:08 when I started doing the Armenian bone marrow registry comedy shows a big game Armenians are the best They're wonderful people. They're the spectrum of, like, good Christians and shady mother-fri- Great Uber drivers. I love being Armenian. I love hanging out with the Armos because they got your back.
Starting point is 02:03:28 If you're Armenian, you're cool. They got your back. And I'm wearing my shirt up with my hair to show my Armenian heritage, okay? So. Heritage. Okay. So, but when we first started doing it, I'm not going to lie to you, dude. it was like first second generation people coming to this show
Starting point is 02:03:47 sarcasm is a western thing sarcasm it's like it's like I defend I defend had to defend Kurt Metzker one time because Kurt Kurt I do a show with Kurt now we did a second volume it's called the Curt and Sam Experience it's a premium content show
Starting point is 02:04:09 heard of it and I love just listening to Kirk go off He's like me times a thousand So I'm being entertained And so Kurt just moved to LA And what Kurt does And Kurt does When it's time to change You got to rearrange
Starting point is 02:04:29 That was a very famous Brady bunch You sounded like What's Kermit? Little Kermit called the tiny one Tiny Kermit Sit on the stair is this there That's what you sounded like You know what's the little Johnny will probably get kind of
Starting point is 02:04:42 Happy right strike for that. That's what you sound like. By the way, just so you know, there's a man with his hand up his ass right now. That's what you sound like. Well, you know, I got range, Johnny. Johnny, sometimes you're going to realize you're working with a five-tool player, okay? What are the five tools? If I could read and write, I'd be a six-tool player, okay?
Starting point is 02:05:09 so anyways Johnny shut up Matt's apparently is not a strong suit either because you said you'd be a six dual player if you had two more things Yeah but those all fit in one category
Starting point is 02:05:20 reading writing So I would do these shows And they like So Kurt Kurt got in trouble Because he was making fun of the young Turks But he doesn't in this character
Starting point is 02:05:32 Where that Kurt plays That he just He doesn't change his voice But he's playing a character but it's in Kurt's voice so it sounds like it's a sarcastic guy but it's in his same voice so you don't know he's in the character
Starting point is 02:05:47 it's like he's on stage or something right and you got to just know him to know the character you got to be a fan of him so he does the thing he makes fun of that fat at young turks and it gets pulled out of contact and the Armenians lose their mind they lose their mind
Starting point is 02:06:02 wait why would they they all hate him right why would they because they thought they thought that Kurt was making fun the genocide. And what he was actually making fun of, because if you know, Kurt, he's making fun of the fact that that company has the name of genociders. Yes, yes, yeah. All right. Dude, anybody outside of maybe England and the United States and Canada do not get sarcasm. Everything is literal. It's a very westernized thing. Very
Starting point is 02:06:36 Westernize. Maybe France and their French garbage. Maybe they have some sarcasm there. But it really is a Western thing. And that's what he ran into. They didn't realize he was doing sarcasm. He's not, he is making fun of them, but it's not like him literally calling them up. Also, sarcasm just doesn't play out of context. So you have to really be in the flow. So that, I knew that's why he got in trouble. Because he went on, he went on Rogan and made jokes. And it actually probably in the long run
Starting point is 02:07:06 is the better for him. Like the two comics that look the best right now are Shane Gillis who straight up turned it down. Oh really? And if you'd like to hear the rest of this episode subscribe to Broken Simulation in your podcasting app
Starting point is 02:07:19 or check us out at YouTube.com slash Sam Tripoli. everywhere that's some interdimensional shit wake up Aaron this is only the beginning dude you just blew my mind Tim Foil hackton

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