Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #938 Social Engineering by Catastrophism with Mark Windows

Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil hat. Oh, what the fuck are you guys people talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to tinfoil hat. We go deep, home, boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.

Starting point is 00:00:27 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some inter-dimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind blown? Revolution will be podcasted. All right, welcome to Tinfoil hat live from the Wise Wolf Golden Silver Studios.

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Starting point is 00:01:10 He's a broadcaster. He's an author. He's gone on the... He's a rock star in a rock show that we're excited to hear about. Please welcome the one and only Mark Windows. How are you, sir? Thanks. I'm fine.

Starting point is 00:01:27 Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't say I'm a jack-a-ball. trades. I focus generally on geopolitical research, but I have a background in entertainment, which kind of runs along quite nicely with it all, because you need a bit of light relief now and again. Yeah, we were just talking about that, about like, just the landscape of, you know, content creating and why some people might have a good show, but not getting the reach that they want. And you got to kind of have a spoonful of sugar while you talk about this stuff, because it could get pretty heavy at some point.

Starting point is 00:02:00 Mark, for those who may not be familiar with you, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you? Windows on the world.net is the website, and the background to what I do was really in looking at systems of governance. And specifically, I got into it through looking at the way local governance had changed and what was going on within the court system in the UK. and it changed around 2010 into a communitarian system, same as in the US when Obama announced the

Starting point is 00:02:35 Obama army and basically that citizens were going to be taking over the narrative, but those citizens are not the community. And that's called communitarianism. So I got into that. I have a great interest in history. I've been researching for a very long time. I don't actually agree that you need a spoonful of sugar with anything because I don't take sugar. And also, The information that I put out is pure, it's reliable, and any speculation I put out is generally just put out there. And I say, well, what do you think about this? Therefore, you don't have a big reach because I don't put out clickbait. But I do have a very loyal audience who are pretty intelligent because they interact with me through the shows and through the website.

Starting point is 00:03:20 And to me, that's the most important thing. And also the amount of change that can be affected by what you put out. So I'm not the sort of podcaster who wants a big audience, and I was denied a big audience. I used to work at a TV station called a People's Voice TV, which was started by David Ike. Yes. And that was around 2014. I had a daily show. And I was putting out information, which was very powerful with a group of people in the UK.

Starting point is 00:03:51 And those people brought down several government agencies. Therefore, I was put on a list, I think, slightly targeted, and which meant the shows and the website was very marginalized for a long time. So it's kind of hidden in the algorithm. And that is, I think, a very important point that if you want good information, you've got to go and find it and search a little. I love everything you said. I mean, I've felt that as well. I watch on YouTube a bunch of new conspiracy content. Come on. It seems to thrive in there. There's something about if you're that old school, you know, conspiratorial content that they seem to still have something for you and they don't want to let you kind of thrive.

Starting point is 00:04:41 So I agree with you on that. I've lost YouTube channels. I had to pay back to get my Instagram. So I completely understand everything you're saying. Yes. You brought up some very interesting, and we'll get into your talking points, but we've said this on the show before that through the Internet, the Internet kind of took our eyes off of local and put our focus here in the States on Washington, D.C. and everything was going on in Washington, D.C., and then they kind of made their move. I like to call them the Bolsheviks. You can call them whatever. I'd love to hear what you think they are. We could call them the World Revolution. movement because it's all part of the same thing that you're talking about, yeah. I totally agree with that. And so they kind of like put our, they kind of pulled our eyes to

Starting point is 00:05:30 Washington, what was happening in Washington, C, why we didn't pay attention to our city councils, our board of educations and all that stuff. And that's kind of where they went to work on it. And I'm glad you brought that up because I totally agree with you on, on that, on that talking point. And, you know, and it says, I know the United States going through a lot as well. we got a crazy election in same templar operates all around the world to a greater or lesser degree and this is the thing that i think is probably the only frustrating point about it all is that people want clickbait they want distraction therefore especially after the covid era a lot of new podcasts were promoted which are putting up this general conspiracy garbage which leads you

Starting point is 00:06:16 nowhere but keeps you up all night and with a little bit of application a lot can be done and yes everything that's happening globally happens in your town hall so forget the people in davos forget all about what the conspiracy media are talking about concentrate on your town hall because everything global comes in locally so everything that affects you is done through your local municipality in britain your local council and it's the same thing same in America, exactly the same template. The communitarian template is the same in pretty much every country. It doesn't matter whether it's taken over a building. It doesn't matter it's taking somebody down. It doesn't matter whether it's clearing the way for new developments, for

Starting point is 00:07:04 land pirates and plunderers to come in. In fact, there's no difference in the template of the Gaza genocide and what's going on in your own doorstep. They're just different degrees of the same thing. Well put. I totally agree with that. So let's get into this. You wanted to talk about the age of UN Enlightenment? Well, I think your producer looked at some of the shows that I'd put out, and he thought that was quite interesting. I think that if people were familiar with my work, which many of them here won't be, then they would have a background. So I better give a little bit of a background to this, because I've been talking about the UN global government. government system for a very long time. And that system is through the sustainable development

Starting point is 00:07:49 goals known as Agenda 2030. And all of the principles of Agenda 2030 are kind of reversed in a way because there's the real and the stated goals. In other words, they give you this fluffy cover story, we're going to save the planet and you're going to pay for it. But really, the idea behind it all was that the bankers got together after the Rio conference in 92. There was a international criminal called Maurice Strong, who was the Undersecretary General of the United Nations, and he organised the UNEP program. He was also the head of the World Economic Forum around 1972. So this goes back quite a long way, and they decided that the new system of government would be through the environment. In other words, you pay benefits for breathing. So it's a new form of

Starting point is 00:08:37 benefits called sustainable development, which means that in effect, the idea and the cover story of sustainable development is that you don't leave an impact which will impact on future generations rights. I'm kind of paraphrasing here, but that's the cover story. The real story is that international finances and bankers got together and decided that they would go for another system because a lot of people were calling this a capitalist system. So they went to another system and it came out of the city of London and by 2008 N.M. Rothschild had put into place a paper called Carbon Trading Global Future Potential and nobody talks about this and indeed that paper is actually available at Windows on the World.net on the free books page but it says

Starting point is 00:09:29 at the beginning of that document that nobody is allowed to quote from it which is crazy because obviously it's a public document but it was only circulated to people within the industry now of course there's a lot more to it than this. We go back to the environmental movement, how it was hijacked, and people like Earth First, who were saying in the 70s, I think Dave Foreman said the ideal world population would be under 100 million. And from that, they decided that the population was necessary on a Malthusian kind of concept, even though now world population is drastically reduced because of these implementations. So basically what they set into place 30 years ago

Starting point is 00:10:17 is falling apart because it's based on absolute lies. In other words, the sea levels are not rising. There isn't any climate catastrophe and we're living in a very stable period. And I was involved with a lot of scientists who were challenging the global warming theory. and it's a theory with no foundation evidence and therefore what's happening now

Starting point is 00:10:43 is it's falling apart I actually proved that it's falling apart a very long time ago and the people like Neil's Axelmoor the world's leading expert in sea levels he actually resigned from the UNIPCC and we were going to go to this small town in North Wales that was going to be decommissioned

Starting point is 00:11:02 in other words land grabbed so we found out that Lloyd's of London would still ensure these properties, even though they were meant to be in managed retreat. And Lloyds of London knew that the climate change thing was a scam. So they're trying to act accordingly and get around it. But what happened was that we did a talk down there to the locals, and the local Labour Party and the fake green Nazis or, well, Nazis, it's too good a word for them. People get lazy with that word. But the fake green lobbyists actually denigrated me, said that I'd worked on a show on the station with

Starting point is 00:11:44 David Ike and that I thought the queen was a lizard and that my conspiracy theories were about as credible as Elvis being on the dark side of the moon, which is one they threw out a few years ago. But what happened was recently, the reason I'm bringing this up is nearly 10 years later, the local papers are saying, yes, it is a scam. And that local paper, they put down when I was going to do my talk I talked I spoke to them on the phone about all this and instead of putting world leading sea level expert offers to support fairborn in court over decommissioning they wrote protest planned for climate change deniers talk so there was no protest plan but they tried to incite a protest now I think you were referring to this kind of ad hominem attack just before we went live and then they they do this and a lot of the public will believe it but I think that they the environmental thing is the key to unlocking the new world order, as Mikhail Gorbachev himself said in 1996. So you bring up some wonderful points,

Starting point is 00:12:46 and I agree with you wholeheartedly 100%. I wanted to know what is your thoughts about Bill Gates coming out and basically saying that your humanity is not going to be killed off by climate change. Is that a small victory for us that he's basically, basically said it's not going to be a thing because that was I think more people have been killed by Bill Gates and his programs than the climate so it's true yeah he's not he's not lying yeah I totally agree and you know we get into this that you know it's again if we kind of look at what's going on in New York City you just have a bunch of rich kids and they don't even have to be kids they can

Starting point is 00:13:27 be 20 and 30 year olds but they're rich kids and they can live in la la land and they can like they can create these windmills into monsters and be Don Quixote and be fighting fake monsters because it gives them purpose because, you know, there is this kind of balance that when you do really well in life, will your children no struggle? Well, it was aimed at the middle classes, actually, Johnny. That's a very good point because sustainable development is not aimed at poor people. It's aimed at the middle classes are the target of sustainable development. Therefore, if you have six or seven bins and you're recycling, then it makes you feel

Starting point is 00:14:05 good. It's like going to church and doing your confession for the week. That's basically what it is. It's the new form of benefits. Of course, it goes all into the same hole, into landfill, or it's exported. But the point is that people need to feel good about their own micromanagement. So if you're going to micromanage the population, they have to feel as though they're doing something useful. And the middle classes are the biggest dupes for that. And I saw that in the borough that I lived in. And what they did, they brought in people who were going to recruit those people and who were going to. going to take down the opposition with the sort of Saul Olinsky rules. And this happened in America too. The same template. It's a template that's very simple, but people don't want to know about, but it's the template which will empower you. And then you will be able to live your life accordingly and get onto much higher levels of thinking. And that was the idea behind it. So if you start to look at how you're governed, then you can move on to the next stage. But until you know how you're governed, there's no point moving on to that next stage. And what I find interesting is how nobody ever wants to actually look at, hey, where we lied to.

Starting point is 00:15:12 Like, everything is, they're goldfish. The only thing that matters to them is what's in front of them. And it's like my girlfriend, who I love with all my heart, she still watches MSNBC over here, which is our super progressive stuff channel. And it doesn't matter that they lied about COVID. Doesn't matter if they lied about Russiagate. Doesn't matter if they lied about Obama. It doesn't matter if they lied about weapons of mass destruction. I mean, you know, we just had Megan Kelly go off on, on Candace Owens.

Starting point is 00:15:42 And she's like, I trust the FBI 100%. And I just want to go, okay, Megan, what is the story or the case that the FBI was correct about? Well, tell it. I'd love to hear about it because I can come up with lists where they were completely fraudulent and lied about the entire thing. What is the case that you go, this is where they were. were right with us and there is none and it well i think that this is how the media works you buy into the two lies left and right republican versus democrat i agree or are you know uh did the state do this or was it done by terrorism these are false arguments because the actual theories

Starting point is 00:16:23 behind governance go way beyond these talking points which people are given so people get addicted to talking points it's like a football match so you want your side to win so if you're indoctrinated or you indoctrinate yourself into one side then you want that side to win so the argument actually doesn't become a proper debate it just becomes two people shouting ad homonyms or logical fallacies at each other so that's not an argument so this is a very important point about self-governance therefore if you talk about the fore and against of something you're missing the point because it's there you've got the the dialectic going on which means that there's two lies

Starting point is 00:17:07 so in other words if you want to keep people away from any kind of power then you give them two lies to argue over the theory of governance is that the two lies are there to stop people

Starting point is 00:17:24 from actually gaining any power I agree with that there's an old KGB playbook play called nonlinear warfare where they would give both sides of the argument all this data to make them think that they're right so they could never come together and have a discussion the right or the left and it's kind of something you know before i was talking i was trying to get into that you know before you came on that you know each one of these social medias that we have and i'm going

Starting point is 00:17:53 twitter instagram and i'm not on ticot so i don't really know but you know uh twitter facebook and Instagram. I know Facebook owns both Instagram and Facebook, but, or meta, but each one of them has their own vibe, right? And what you're willing to say on one, you may not say on the other. So I don't, I made a mistake of linking my Instagram to my Facebook. And they try to get you to do that every time you post. There's a pop-up. Like, hey, are you sure you don't want to be posting this to Facebook too? Yeah, and it was the biggest mistake I ever made. Because I really talked to most smack on Twitter and then I talk I try not to get political on Instagram but things are so crazy right

Starting point is 00:18:32 now I kind of been posting a little bit and then I forgot that it went to Facebook and man I mean I I'm getting murdered by friends friends are going nuts on me on Facebook and and I bring it up because their their argument is that what they don't understand is like they think because I don't agree with them I'm on the other side and they don't understand that I'm on nobody's side I despise both sides of this argument and I and because they don't see me go off on let's say Trump or anything on Facebook because I try to keep a lot of the politics off of Facebook and I made the mistake of letting it go to Instagram. They don't see me talking shit about the Zionism and all and the Pellantier stuff and all that stuff that I talk all the time on Twitter and very little on Instagram. But they don't they can't come to grips with. that I think both sides are corrupt.

Starting point is 00:19:28 Like what's going on right now with immigration in America, Joe Biden and Donald Trump work together on that. This has been a tag team. You know, Biden gets in with a really shady election, brings in all the illegals, and then Trump acts like he's the hero to the right by trying to get rid of them. But they're both trying to bring in martial law.

Starting point is 00:19:51 Good, good, bad cop. The thing I was saying the last time, it's the same thing. It's bad cop, you know, Bad, a good cop, but really bad guy. I think unless you know who owns your government, nothing's going to change. And people don't want to admit to who owns the government. And Trump's obviously beholden to them. And so therefore nothing can change within the present structure of global governance.

Starting point is 00:20:13 But there are interesting things that happen within it. But these talking points of what's going on in the media, there are certainly no interest to me. But they keep people busy all day long on issues of absolutely no importance. when they could be applying themselves to things that really mattered. That's my opinion on that. You know, it's very interesting is, and I don't know if I'm pronouncing the name of the bank correctly. Deutsche Bank is Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank funded Hitler.

Starting point is 00:20:41 Guess who else are funding right now? Mondani. The New York guy. Really? That's funny. Isn't that crazy? Like, and people, that data will never enter anybody's head if you're just taking the news, whether it's Fox News or, MSNBC, CNN, you'll never hear that day.

Starting point is 00:20:59 People don't go back that far, did they, Johnny? I mean, they tend to have... I'm Sam, by the way, just so you know, I'm saying Johnny is the guy on the board, so I'm saying... Oh, so I don't know. Hi, Johnny. It's all good. He just says Johnny Woodard. It's not. Sorry, it's my account. Sorry about that, our apologies, dude.

Starting point is 00:21:14 We should have introduced ourselves before, so our apologies. It's all right. I'll just, it'd be easy to just go to the other two Johnny one and Johnny two. I'll be Johnny one, I'll be Johnny two. I've been Johnny four my whole life, yeah. I could be Johnny three. Yeah. How do you say Johnny in Spanish? Cuo.

Starting point is 00:21:30 And this is what? Johnny's quattro? That's crazy. So yeah, go on with what you're saying, sir. That's Juan or something, right? Johannes or something. No, that's German. Go on, Mark. Sorry. No, it's fine. I mean, I just think that it's good to make these points about governance and see if anyone kind of latches on because it's a very important thing. And I think that all of this stuff, I follow it.

Starting point is 00:21:56 but it's a kind of circus arena and there are theories that governance works in a much higher dimension than the public see and they think it's a conspiracy theory but in actual fact the way governance works is incredibly simple because we're looking at global plunder and it's happening all over the world and it's just land grabbing by land pirates on the back of a lie. And it's happening in every country. But the main thing is, what does one do about it? One has to find a way around this. And to me, that's the key,

Starting point is 00:22:40 because that makes it interesting, quite exciting, and it takes away this feeling of disempowerment that people have, which leads them into anger. All right, guys, real clear, I want to thank our good friends at home, chef listen kids are back in school and between drop-offs pickups homework and don't even get me started on bath time which is a real battle okay the last thing you want to think about is what's for dinner home chef takes the stress off your plate with fresh pre-portioned meals for the entire family which makes

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Starting point is 00:26:10 is not about like changing anything uh i really do believe and we're very blessed to have a lot you know we have loyal listeners for like the show's been on for like nine years in December we've nine years and you know we have a bunch of new listeners welcome everybody um that that the the key to this show is into like try to wake anybody up or tell you know the key to me is to hear the show so you know the playbook and the sciops that they're running so you don't allow that to fall into that And that's really the key. You know, I've been talking a lot about this is like, you, you, in my humble opinion, you can't change the system. The system can't be changed.

Starting point is 00:26:57 The only way you get. Yeah, but it's not the system that you change. It's yourself and the way you operate within the system. I agree. Because it's all about governance. So governance starts with self-governance. Yes. So all governance starts with you.

Starting point is 00:27:11 And you are ultimately responsible for everything you do. Once you take full responsibility, then you get out of this idea that there's trying to be imposed that somehow you are given these rights within a community. And of course, there's no such thing as community rights. All rights come from the rights of an individual within a community. So in other words, people who don't take absolute responsibility for their own actions will be led. And as the Roman Maxim states, ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Starting point is 00:27:44 So unless you educate yourself to the principles of governance on the planet, then you cannot hope to actually achieve any sense of satisfaction or kind of progress. That's my view, you see, that it comes from the individual. And the way that I got into this was to actually openly challenge what was going on. And that led to a series of events which were quite scary. at times because I realize that there are a lot of people who are in this system who have got everything covered, of course, and they'll surveil you and threaten you and all sorts of things. But once you look how it actually works and you find out, that is very, very liberating because you find out where the Achilles heel of governance actually is, especially when it's standing on your own neck. And I've done some things that the world will never find out about because nobody will report them, nobody in the mainstream media and nobody in the alternative media. And that to me is a very good indication of how people are governing themselves.

Starting point is 00:28:56 So I do take this stuff seriously, but I do like to have good fun with it as well. And I think everything has to be balanced. We have to have a balanced view of the whole thing. And it's all about integration. It's all about growing and going through veils of illusion. but the problem is that people will go through, say, one veil, like they'll get maybe that COVID was a scam, but they won't get, say, global to local governance

Starting point is 00:29:23 or they won't get other issues, say, to do with international terrorism. Well, that's no good because you're not understanding the system because terrorism is a part, terrorism is a form of governance. Pandemics are a form of governance. Everything that's imposed is governance. So you have to look at it and go, how is this governance making sense and then you look for the holes and it say no it's hypocritical it's not true so what's the alternative well there's always a way around everything and that to me

Starting point is 00:29:54 is the key to it all getting beyond the talking points and into areas where you realize that the whole system can be got around and that's what happened during the country COVID thing, I got around the whole system. I traveled all over the place. And I'd done a lot of stuff in Britain that was, it kind of astounded me. I didn't think it was possible that one person could do it. And it's not, no ego involved in this. I was just genuinely astonished about the things that I was thrown into. And I just realized that the way that things work is a template. and that templar has not got more complicated, it's got incredibly simple. And that's one of the key things, I think, that I like to try and put out.

Starting point is 00:30:46 I agree with you. And it's this thing that I've talked about on other shows, but it's about, again, you can't change a system. You have to learn how to beat the system. And by beating the system, you show other people how to beat the system. Yes. And then the system adapts to the new reality of everybody beating it. It's like even in like I'm a stand-up.

Starting point is 00:31:06 comic and you can just watch like the old way was to get on the tonight show getting a sitcom getting a movie and if you couldn't fit in that you were done well then my space comes and everybody says oh i'm going to get a following through my space once that oh you remember my space i love that i love that i love that i used to speak to people on there like mike garson who's david bowie's pianist who played on a lad insane and all i love my space i love the my school it was great the only problem i had was that hot asian chicks will put so much music on their profile and your girlfriend be like what do you look at you slightly change the subject there how do i turn this down how do i turn this down but it adapts it adapts you know it's like the way to

Starting point is 00:31:47 make it 20 years ago you can't make it anymore like that so because people keep beating the system the system eventually adapts to you so if you want change you can't go out there and march and all that stuff maybe maybe that but it's really about just like hey dude figure out the system figure out what you don't like about it beat the system and enough people will watch you like you know i've been you know i'm in recovery i get people hit me up all the time about getting sober i'm like bang there you go that's how you beat the system you don't get lost in drugs in alcohol and in low vibrational people start changing change change change change that's how you that's how you beat the system um i wanted to begin i'm interested actually talk about that you know the addiction thing is a very

Starting point is 00:32:31 very important issue how did you get around that uh for me it was you know i had a problem with methamphetamines and my i had kids and one day i went out and i was begged to come home and i didn't want i i realized that like my kids they were six months old at the time and i'm like they didn't ask to have a junkie for a dad and i'm like this is the rock bottom i had begged for you know like i couldn't get i was a functioning drug addict and i was it was just slow mediocre i was just slowly becoming more and more mediocre and then i just was like i don't want these kids to grow up with a junkie dad so i decided that that was it and then i just did in 24-hour increments like i didn't try to build roman a day i just said you know what i got i got this prayer from a friend

Starting point is 00:33:26 of mine named jimmy and he was like sammy you're trying to do too much at once he goes This is what I want you to do. When you feel like using, just ask God for 24 hours. And I remember I would see people I did drugs with and I would get this real like, my body would start to hum because it was like, let's do drugs. And so I did the prayer and I got through it. And then I started doing the prayer every time I started feeling it and God gave me 24 hours. Because what you say is like, God give me 24 hours, maybe tomorrow I'll use, but not today.

Starting point is 00:33:56 And then the next day you do that again. And the next thing you know, you're getting to a year. and I just tell people, get a year and see how your life is. Like, it may not be financially or career different, but do you have hope in your heart? And once you have hope in your heart, then you got a chance. Because, you know, what drugs and alcohol do and even pornography does is it really just zaps the hope you have at a high vibrational life. So once you start doing that, then bang, next thing you know, you got a year, then you got two years. And then you're helping other people get to that year because you've got to give it away.

Starting point is 00:34:30 If you don't give it away, then you lose it. Is it the same thing with porn? Are you doing like 24 hours? Like whatever you want to? Every day off adult films is like winning the Super Bowl. But once you get, I got the 60 days, I'm like, oh, I don't crave it anymore. But you just got to say, no matter what, I'm not going to watch this. And like ease into it, dude.

Starting point is 00:34:49 Like if you have some movies of yourself getting weird, you can watch that to help you get through. That's great. You know, just get through it, dude. And then at some point, if you want wean off that. Your own work is fine. It's just watching other people with trauma, just really lean into their trauma. That's where it's because, you know, you know the occult, Mark. It's like, I just find the adult film industry is a giant humiliation ritual.

Starting point is 00:35:16 You're watching somebody humiliate themselves for cash and prizes. There's also an algorithm that pulls you into darker and darker corners. That's all Porn Hub is. Well, that's absolutely true that is. That is a very, very good point because that is, not talked about too much that you can get dragged out. I think social media does this.

Starting point is 00:35:38 Yes. Social media is like a cess pit and I stopped using it completely but it's very interesting what you're saying about that that you had to kind of hit rock bottom and see yourself. I mean, I know a few people that's happened to but it's a very important thing

Starting point is 00:35:57 to learn from and you get to know yourself and I think that's the most important thing because you know if you're still I know people who sort of they stop being alcoholics but they still relapse well that's no good either and obviously you know part of what I did was in show business

Starting point is 00:36:19 for about 30 years I was touring with bands and stuff like that and I knew a lot of junkies who were functioning in bands and a lot of alcoholics because of course in show business, if you're an alcoholic, you're a hellraiser. But if you're an alcoholic in normal life, you're just a low-life bum, you know. And that's kind of an interesting thing because I met people who were addicts, but there were quite high functioning. But of course, alcohol is, I think, you know, I don't think methamphetamine is very forgiving,

Starting point is 00:36:51 but alcohol over a long period of time, unless you do really hard alcohol, people don't really feel it for years and years. I knew alcoholics who were 86 and a very famous actress I knew. She was an alcoholic. She smoked, but she looked after herself in other ways, but she was 86 when she died, but she was an industrial level drinker. And I knew a lot of people in show business like that. There was an actor who died. I won't mention his name, but it was in a lot of movies. And I found out that he actually was drinking so much that he was coming down off it with a lot of hash and then drinking another bottle of port on top of drinking all day. And I thought, that's just like way beyond what I could understand because when I was out

Starting point is 00:37:36 and about in Soho in London, you know, a lot of the places there have closed down. But there's a lot of good late night clubs and you could go and have a drink and everyone expected you to be sober all the time. But these people were kind of functioning alcoholics, you know. And I think if you get to that point where you don't need it anymore, everything purifies. I know it sounds a bit of corny to say that, but I think that you are holding yourself back when you take anything. I actually gave up alcohol completely. I never drank that much, but I just, I did it overnight.

Starting point is 00:38:11 I thought, I'm not going to do that again. And it's a strange thing, actually, because I thought, well, I'll always enjoy a glass of wine when we meal up. But no, I just made that decision. And it's a hard thing to do. I mean, a friend of mine, he was an alcoholic for years. And he only came to a crisis when he was going psychotic and he smashed his guitar up outside my house. I couldn't find him for two days. And then he actually became a born-again Christian.

Starting point is 00:38:38 And it really changed him, though. So it's all about governance. And I find this really fascinating because, yeah, of course, it can start with trauma or hedonism. It's a kind of weird thing, isn't it? Do you think in your case, the addiction came through trauma? or just pure hedonism? Probably a little bit of both. Yes.

Starting point is 00:39:00 I've always said this, that my sex addiction really fueled all my other addictions. And the problem with sex addiction is that it is probably the most high functioning of all the addictions. Yes, it is. You can totally go to work, thrive at your work. But then you're just, you're in this. We've kind of been convinced that debauchery is like, this kind of higher form of love and sex when it's really, it's low vibrational. So, and, you know, I've had friends who have been very publicly taken down in the national

Starting point is 00:39:39 news and, you know, they're very good people. They really are good people, but they had a sex addiction. And I think you're dealing in sex magic every time you do this and you're just conjuring spirits all the time. And we don't, we don't realize that. And then, eventually it catches up with you because we live in this kind of dual kind of society where it's like we we're convincing everybody that you know freaky kinky stuff is hot while at the same time demanding puritanism you know it's very weird to me where we're like oh man you know like you get you see a bunch of like pro athletes in america get in trouble for you know BDSM stuff right but at the same time and then and then we get we can't believe you're into this stuff oh my god

Starting point is 00:40:31 you're a monster while at the same time 50 shades of gray is making like 50 million dollars at the at the box office it's this kind of weird you know too well it again it's a social engineered phenomenon because it's all about infiltration and this idea of free love and all the rest of it it came out as you know, it came out of social engineering in the 50s and 60s. Yes, hippie. And of course, the Timothy Leary stuff and the, the flooding of the country with drugs and all the rest

Starting point is 00:41:03 of it. And this is a really important point that it, again, it's all about consent. It's like any form of demonism needs your consent. Yes. And of course, demonic entities come through

Starting point is 00:41:19 alcohol. Are they come through methamphetamine? I mean, particularly, I did a lot of shows with Jerry Marzinski, who's a psychiatric practitioner who worked at the biggest psychiatric institute in America, which is closed now. It's in Millageville, Georgia, and he had 10,000 patients. And the stories that he's told on the radio, I couldn't believe it. And I was very close to somebody, this girl who was spiritually possessed. She had very strong demonic attachments.

Starting point is 00:41:47 And you learn a hell of a lot when you learn how that demonic realm works, because it's a hierarchical realm but the idea is of course that if you're if you are not in control of your awareness something else can be there's a great book called um it's it's it's by a private richie and it's called something like back to tomorrow and he was recruited into the u.s air force as a conscript in I think the 50s and he became very ill in this RAF hospital and he had an out of body experience

Starting point is 00:42:26 and he could go around the whole of the base and he saw his mates in the bar he could see them from you know from a third perspective and he saw them getting drunk and as they were getting drunk these things were jumping into them

Starting point is 00:42:43 wow and I think this is what happens because you know You've seen this. You've seen people just suddenly go completely mental who are normal on a drugs. And it's not the drug that's doing it. It's them opening up to something that's taken them over. I'm not saying 100% of the time, but I've seen it happen a lot. And this demonic possession thing, I think, is something that the people who want to control are flooding us with.

Starting point is 00:43:12 Therefore, porn, alcohol, drugs, these are weapons. These are weapons to make people comply. And these systems, which, um, hierarchical, which the demons work in are very similar to what happens in the physical world. And I found that you could actually get rid of demonic entities within people or they can do it. And I know people who've done it. But I think this is one of the biggest things that we're fighting. You know, it's not principalities. It's what's getting into people's minds.

Starting point is 00:43:51 And people talk about mind control, but most people are under some form of mind control unless they have an open, pure awareness, and they know it, and they can sort of see everything that's coming in. And that takes time. And therefore, I think what they did was with, especially Westerners, they took them into this fake Hinduism, which meant, like, to be receptive with opening yourself up to meditational commands from a cult leader. and that's been massive and it still is and I spent a long time in Nepal and there was these temples that cropped up

Starting point is 00:44:23 and there was a Shiva they said oh they pray to Shiva this we don't know who they are we think it's black money and I know this cult because this cult are big around the world they have allegedly about 40 billion but they are controlled at the top end by demons this sounds wild to some people but I know people have been in the cult and managed to see them because they channel them and and these are hierarchical These are Brahmins who are doing it. And so these, it's all a system of control. It's very fascinating. Yeah, I agree.

Starting point is 00:44:53 You know, they call alcoholic spirits, you know. Yes. That's what they call alcohol. It's, hey, man, let's have some spirits. And you know the people that he's thought, they're like that, that it's just a different person when there are some people, you know, like a lot of people, they drink, they just kind of get mellowed out, a little quiet maybe. And some people, it's just, it is like something in habits.

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Starting point is 00:46:38 silver. And remember, in the world of bulls and bears, be the wolf. You know, one of my algorithms on YouTube is watching police body cams and you literally watch people get high on drugs, drunk on alcohol and they just act a fool and you're like, well, what if that isn't them? What if they are possessed by something that's making them make the worst decision? So they destroy their lives. I mean, in one night. That's exactly, you've got it in one. That's exactly it. And when you let them, I've seen it happen because the theory of

Starting point is 00:47:12 this, because Jerry was very good on this, I spoke to me in 2015 when I'd just gone through this situation, which was like, mind-blowing, it was other-dimensional. The things that were happening around me were not from the physical world. And he talked to me about six hours, and we did a load of shows after it. But not many people talk about this. Of course, it's taboo in the psychiatric world because they want to push materialistic atheism on everybody but the the real power we have is the divine spirit the the holy spirit that we can tap into and we stop ourselves doing that and the whole theory of control and this imposition of governance which is not good for us is that it takes us away from our own power so you have

Starting point is 00:48:05 to disempower the victim and that is exactly what happens in the demonic realm they disempower you they take over you then they abuse you disempowering i love that i think that's great let me ask you a question um and by the way i think that what we're talking about would would with alcohol and methamphetamines i think you can now apply this to this industrial grade marijuana that's now being yeah they call it skunk in the uk and a friend of mine went completely psychotic on that i mean absolutely psycho i see it i see it in the recovery rooms, people now come in for, they're like, yeah, I have a problem with weed and they have tweaker energy, dude.

Starting point is 00:48:48 It used to be, remember, like, was it Eric Roberts, who was on Celebrity Rehab and people just laughed him out of the room for being there for weed? Because it used to be, it was just, even that recently. Because we used to think it's our, you know, the way that the average person looks at the hippie movement, they think it is a cultural revolution. It was completely astroturfed by the CIA and the FBI. But we think of weed, like our grandpa's weed or super young, people, they're great-grandpa's weed.

Starting point is 00:49:11 Well, it blows my mind when people say I'm sober, or Cali Sober or whatever, you know exactly what that means. Is that weed? Yeah, that means they'll smoke, they'll do, they're smoking weed every day, but they're Cali-sober, which means, obviously, no liquor. Even just vaporizing it, it gets so much more of it, right? Oh, yeah, these dabs and all that stuff. But what I wanted to ask you about, you brought up something.

Starting point is 00:49:32 So there's this whole discussion about, you know, the fallen angels and what they represent. I have a friend of mine. He's a devout Christian. He thinks when they, when God destroyed the Tower of Babel, he sent all the humanity in different directions and he gave them, he or someone installed fallen angels as gods of those areas. Now, you brought up Hinduism. Do you think that Hinduism and a lot of these other offshoot religions, and I know there's probably more Asians than anywhere else in the world, more Asians than anybody else. But these offshoot, you know, religions such as Hinduism, do you think they worship fallen angels? I think that Hinduism is a construct of the Brahmins.

Starting point is 00:50:26 I did a show called The Cult that controls cult, something like that. It was a few months ago. but it was really about how these systems are interlinked so the Brahmin system is of a hierarchy they give people multiple gods to worship which disempowers them so they do day-to-day rituals to all these different gods they keep themselves busy the pharaohs did exactly that the well the people who were behind the pharaohs the priesthood behind the pharaohs did exactly the same thing because the ancient Egyptian cult is just as neurotic In other words, everything that you're doing has to be getting yourself ready for when you die

Starting point is 00:51:12 and then you take all your material stuff into the next life. It's a complete garbage cult, the pharaonic cult. And so the people behind that, I think, are the same type of people as are behind the Brahmins and the same type of people who are behind the Pharisees. I think these are all control systems which are reasonably clever, but they are all pretty much working in the same way. but on different genetic types so when we talk brahmins we're not talking the family of canada that's been connected to all these like zionist groups like the mega group are you talking oh you mean

Starting point is 00:51:48 you mean the family named brahmin yeah when you talk no i'm talking about the brahman priesthood so so in india and nepal as well you have families who are named after brahmins but they there's different brahmin names so they have a caste system so some people people will be warriors some people will be cleaners and then you've got the brahmins who are generally just the administrators these days but they have a higher caste system but the real brahmins are the people who are controlling the daily rituals of the people because in hinduism most of it revolves around daily ritual if you look at the babylonian talmud it opens with an argument over ritual needless and pointless ritual to rabbis arguing about what time of day they do something which is totally

Starting point is 00:52:38 inconsequential to their lives and has no spiritual impact on them at all so in other words it's the same thing ritual keeps people in a state of constant activity with no time to focus on anything higher and i have friends who are hindus who do all this stuff very nice people but i don't agree with the ritual and the lifestyle that people need to adhere to to be part of these cults. I think that the original Christianity, the way, was actually smashing all that apart. And of course, that got infiltrated and completely misrepresented. But the idea is that you have a system of governance where people are kept very busy and in fear. And That is particularly relevant to the phariseic system, the Brahmin system, and, yes, the pharaoh system, which are three of the most successful control systems on the planet.

Starting point is 00:53:46 I completely agree. So you brought up the city of London, and I've been talking to people, mostly to myself, but I've been talking to people about, What we've seen is that this Bank of England has destroyed China, it's destroyed Russia, it's destroyed Germany, it did unimaginable things to India, okay? And now it is of my belief that they are trying to implode America. And I think it would be England as well. What's going on in England? I know the city of London is in England. We all know it's not technically a part of England.

Starting point is 00:54:32 It's a sovereign territory. It's a separate city state that is without the jurisdiction of Britain. And so what do you, can we get into like the city of London and, you know, Judaism and what that all represents in your humble opinion, like the Britain and the lost tribe of Judah? Yes. to give people a little bit of background here we're going into an enormous subject which took me about ten years even to scrape the surface of and that is that britain was the original home of christianity the druidic religion was a very advanced and the druids embraced christianity way before the romans had actually rewritten the history so the history of britain was rewritten by the romans the history of europe was pretty much rewritten by the Romans. And we have to look who the Romans were. The Romans were a conglomeration of different people under one banner. So there's no such thing as the Romans. There was no such thing as the ancient Greeks. There were the Helene's and other people who functioned generally under similar

Starting point is 00:55:43 systems of governance or were absorbed. Now, the idea is that Britain was the true home of Christianity, was that Britain was a very important place and a magical place and that this was covered up because Constantine wished to relocate Christianity to his base somewhere near his base in Constantinople. So he chose what is now modern day Israel. And of course modern day Israel was formed in 1948 as the state of Israel.

Starting point is 00:56:17 There is no evidence that any of the bio, stories happen there they keep trying to contrive evidence but there isn't any so there is some roman stuff there like the wailing wall and there's play i've been to jerusalem it's fake it's an old oldish kind of town but there's nothing special about it the idea is that at some point in the past britain was smashed apart as the rest of the world has been by catastrophe and this this theory is called catastrophism. So there's the state has this idea called uniformitarianism. And that came out of such people like Thomas Payne, the Enlightenment. In other words, that things have stayed relatively stable and the materialistic view of the world is correct.

Starting point is 00:57:05 And that science is the way that people decode everything. And now we have the science, of course, which is not science at all. It's called consensus and it's just made up. So what the idea is that Britain was a very powerful and advanced civilization. And in 1322 BC, it was smashed apart from Scandinavia. And that caused a lot of people to spread out from that continent, which a writer called William Commons Beaumont claims was the original Atlantis. Now, I don't really go too much into the Atlantis story because it's speculation. but when I started looking at this

Starting point is 00:57:46 and a friend of mine had curated the books of William Commons Beaumont from the Dumoria family who were related into the Beaumonts and Beaumont was actually a journalist and a writer and a very very successful writer and editor of the Daily Mail and he had this theory that Constantine had relocated Christianity around 325 AD and places in the Middle East they created these places and then they magically found the cross of Jesus, they found the nails, and they found a site. Now,

Starting point is 00:58:19 that site was originally a temple to Venus in 119 AD. So what happened was that Church of the Holy Sepulchre, where it is now, that's been burnt down and ransacked several times and rebuilt. It is not an original building and it never was an original building. So what they did is they constructed these places in the Middle East for the pilgrims. And so people were relocating their belief system to the Middle East. And then I started looking into the history of Christianity in the British Isles. And they say that it was Augustine in 597 AD who converted King Ethelbert of Kent and this spread Christianity. Because the Romans have labelled every church in Britain and now, of course, the National Trust owns or manages ancient sites. They always say this church dates dates from around

Starting point is 00:59:13 600 AD. They have to say that because the Romans are saying that Christianity didn't fully penetrate Britain until 597 AD. Even the Romans contradict that. So even the Roman documents contradict that. And there are several people labelled heretics who have said that Britain was the home of Christianity. And the more I looked into it, the more it started to make sense. And the more it made sense that it's been taken over and is being absolutely destroyed. So Britain has to be destroyed. Its culture has to be destroyed. And that is the only way that they can start to really take control in a way that will destroy all the spirituality.

Starting point is 01:00:00 Because there are places in Britain that are very powerful. And that power is still there. This all sounds a bit esoteric. I don't want it to because, again, it's about management. But when I started looking into this, I thought it was completely absurd that the stories from the Middle East had actually taken place in Britain. And it's not a nationalistic thing. It's nothing to do with that. It's to do with the ancient history of Britain, which was rewritten. So I'm not expecting anyone to believe this. I'm not trying to turn it into a cult. It's an area of research which has captivated me. And I'm trying to get to the truth.

Starting point is 01:00:35 so with that said we've had guests on before and i don't believe this but they have discussed whether jesus was real or not what is your thoughts on that i think he existed i think that he was actually in britain there is a story of course of joseph of arimathea who was a very wealthy trader and he took the young Jesus to the tin mines in Cornwall and around Somerset. A church was founded 30 AD in Glastonbury and that church was a round church and the druids who I believe adopted Christianity and Jesus was in the British Isles they always worshipped in circles because they don't have sides and you can see everything within a circle because a circle sees it all directions. And so the original temples were in the

Starting point is 01:01:39 open, in the open air. So the idea of the control system is that they build square temples and you have to go there and consult with their priesthood. And the idea was that there was an advanced civilization, which was highly evolved in that they had a good sense of law and order. They had a good moral code and also they had an oral tradition which was passed down for thousands of years and that oral tradition had to be destroyed and it was destroyed by the catholic church however some of that priesthood infiltrated the catholic church but to answer your question yes i do believe that jesus was real and he was in britain and i did a story called albians a show called albians apostles And in Glastonbury, there's a place called Weary All Hill.

Starting point is 01:02:35 And the story is that Joseph, after the crucifixion, took this, he had this bush that he brought back from the Middle East. Because obviously, we're traders. We're talking about, you know, this is the time of the Phoenicians. So the trade routes came from that way. So Joseph was following trade routes because Britain was a very prosperous place. So Britain had all this tin. They were trading with the world. So the idea is that Joseph planted this bush and it's on weary old hill

Starting point is 01:03:05 And that bush was vandalised in 2015 But this is a bit esoteric But to me there are places in Britain that have a very high energetic Sort of atmosphere and higher abilities when you're there And Somerset is one of those places And that's allegedly where Jesus went But this is all stuff that I kind of put together myself later. But the actual facts are, it looks like the facts are, that Jesus did go to Britain.

Starting point is 01:03:37 And there are a lot of old folk tales about it. I'm not expecting anyone to believe it, but it's very much worth looking into. But to me, I go with what makes sense, A, B, C, D. How do you get to D? Does it make sense? It makes sense when I looked into it. Everything made sense because the sites were there in Britain, as discussed in the books of William Cummonds Beaumont.

Starting point is 01:04:00 He did several books. This was in the early 1900s. He died in about 1954, I think. But his first book was called the Riddle of Prehistoric Britain. Then he did the mysterious comet, which was the comet that smashed apart, the landmass from Scandinavia. And the actual cometry impact was around Scotland.

Starting point is 01:04:21 It was actually at Fingles Cave in Scotland. So he gives an exact time and a date for this. from the geological records because Beaumont was actually he was a meteorologist before that existed. It was actually called meteorism. Now, meteorism just means something that happens in your stomach. It's been completely forgotten. Of course, we have the meteorological office,

Starting point is 01:04:45 and we have meteorologists. But the thing that linked Jesus to the British Isles was basically the backstory with the druids. and I started really researching the druidry. And you have to be careful with that because of course the druidic history was completely written by the Romans. But some of it survived through the church,

Starting point is 01:05:08 especially in Ireland. And there is this idea that the kings of Ireland up to like Luga McCluga in about 10 or 1100s, they knew about this and it was not a secret, but it was a known thing. that Britain was the home of Christianity.

Starting point is 01:05:28 Is that book that you just meant prehistoric Britain? Is that by Timothy Darville? No, that's William Commons Beaumont. Now, I just want to ask for a bit of clever. Now, is this, are you suggesting this happened during the so-called lost years? Or actually, are you saying the events of the Bible were in large part? Well, when I first heard this, that the events of the Bible and the place, they were referring to were actually in Britain.

Starting point is 01:05:56 I laughed it out of the room. Interesting. Okay. But that's what I'm saying. But I'm not saying it lightly. I'm saying it through 10 years of actual research. Yeah, yeah. Because I've researched the places.

Starting point is 01:06:08 And there's something that resonates with it very, very powerfully. Now, interestingly, I went to the modern day state of Israel, and there is nothing there. There is nothing there. The whole place is a decoy, in my opinion. And that would make sense. that would make absolute sense with what's going on. So with global politics and what's happening at the moment and Israel's being allowed to destroy itself,

Starting point is 01:06:34 which I think was the original intention, of course, the way that it's happened so quickly, recently over the past couple of years, is to me almost being allowed to happen. I say almost because I think there is resistance to it But I think the point is that Zionism was set up to fulfill a function And that function may be coming to an end And that place in the Middle East to me was a decoy

Starting point is 01:07:05 There was nothing there There was no spiritual power in that country In that piece of land And if you look at the history of it, it's quite interesting Because on the first Alea after the Second World War When the illegal immigrants turned up in Cyprus, British helped them over there. It's called British Mandatory Palestine, of course. The British set it up. Then, of course, the Haganat and the Ergun, as soon as they had got in. The Zionism

Starting point is 01:07:30 was always militant. The Zionism was always self-destructive because they killed the British. They did the King David Hotel bombing. The Stern gang were killing the British. They were robbing banks. There was two groups called the Haganat and the Urgun. And the Hagenard and the Ergun, the people who were in that who were killing the British are now in or were in especially around the time of 9-11 the American government and it's interesting that Frank Lowey

Starting point is 01:08:00 who was involved with the Twin Towers he was knighted by the Queen before she died and he is an arch Zionist and he was I think his parents were in the Haganar but there was two groups the Haganar and the Urgun and they didn't always agree

Starting point is 01:08:16 with each other but the terrorism started as soon as the immigrants landed and Zionism was originally a kind of idealism. And I would actually rather talk to someone like Abraham Stern than a complete and utter maniac like Netanyahu. Because I think the original people who went there, even though they may have been misguided, did have some principles. So even though Stern was a terrorist, I would still rather talk to him than the low life that is leading Israel at the moment. When you say you think the Israel project is coming to an end, what does that look like

Starting point is 01:08:58 to you? It looks like they're destroying themselves in the eyes of the world. And there will be no Israel after that, or will it change? Because I don't know how it goes on after this. I don't know how it's allowed to continue in any kind of function as a state or a country after this. I mean, there's some biblical prophecy where the world wants to go to war with Israel, and that's why a lot of people think everything's being done out in the open to piss people off at Israel. So everyone goes in there. There's prophecy that the Europeans will go in and start to regulate Gaza.

Starting point is 01:09:35 But do you think, based on your decades of research, do you think there's a way for Israel to still function after this? Well, I don't think it does function, and I don't think it's ever functioned, because it was an ideological project. And I read about the formation of Israel many years ago, and there was a book called Israel by Chaimber Mant, and it came out in 1967. It's very interesting, because the only people who wanted to go there were idealists and intellectuals. Nobody wanted to go there. No Jews wanted to go to Israel. So what happened was, they brought. brought in hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from Russia. And Russia is the second spoken

Starting point is 01:10:19 language in Israel, I think, to this day. So basically, a load of people who are idealists came over from Eastern Europe and they said that they were going home when they had no connection with it whatsoever. They have no connection with the Middle East. So I think there's a strong possibility at the high end. They were funneled there for a very good reason. So they'd be surrounded by their enemies and basically destroy themselves. That would make sense. Because if the group became troublesome, as they have, then there must be a higher governing system that's in place that is letting them do it because they have been allowed to get away with this genocide. And of course, Britain is 100% behind that genocide. Yes. 100%. One, I always say that, you know,

Starting point is 01:11:06 you got the, you know, it's the Jews on everything. And I'm not saying there aren't Jews involved. I don't think we need to use the word Jew because it's very misleading. Okay. The word Jew came from Yehuda. So the people who we're talking about are not from the tribe of Yehuda. Okay, I'm listening. It's a completely false premise. The word Jew originated not that long ago.

Starting point is 01:11:33 It was only really, it was around 800, but then it came in, just around the 14th century, it started to be used in print because there was. different versions of it before you and loo and they would do these different words so the word jew is a modern construct historically so i don't think it's helpful to use that word when we're talking about this governance system in israel even though that's the cover story so it i don't consider um this to be a religious thing at all there was never anything religious religious about Zionism. It was attaching itself to certain religious principles and ideologies which had nothing to do with it. So I think Zionism was a governing thing that was

Starting point is 01:12:20 set up and it's been very successful infiltrating the world governments. It's been very successful as a front. So there is a theory that the people who would call themselves Jews are a front for something else and they're merely being used. And that is something I think that's a very strong possibility. Not a popular view that at all. Do you think they picked Israel or the territory of Israel because of

Starting point is 01:12:45 trade routes? What do you mean? Modern day Israel. Yeah. You know the quickest way to have goods go from Asia and Africa is through the lamberge that is basically Israel.

Starting point is 01:13:01 You know, whether you get in Khazarians or not, there's this whole belief. that, you know, a lot of the Israel, the high-ups are former Khazarians, and Khazarians have always controlled trade routes. They controlled a big

Starting point is 01:13:18 chunk of the Silk Road. And if you look at the geopolitical, I mean, if you look at the map of Israel, it is the fastest trade route to get goods from Africa and Asia into

Starting point is 01:13:33 Europe. So there's... Yes, but there's a problem with that because Israel really doesn't produce anything. Well, they would control the trade coming from. Yes, but now Yemen's controlling it. Yeah, and that's a big, that's a, you see what I mean? So, so when you look at it, it's interesting because there's layers of this, you're going into the Khazarian thing. That's about 700 AD mass conversion, but there's always been these mass conversions up to the Sabotean Frankists, which was the most destructive of them so far, which was sabotized V, and later Jacob Frank. to absolutely manic lunatics.

Starting point is 01:14:10 Jacob Frank was a psychopath, but he managed to get millions of people who call themselves Jews following him, same as Sabatized V. And he originally had declared himself to be the Messiah in 1666, and he was living in Smyrna, which is now Izmir in Turkey.

Starting point is 01:14:29 He was actually banned from Izmir because he was a lunatic. And the people say, He was what you'd now call bipolar. I think he was way more crazy than that. But he was obviously charismatic. So when we're talking about this, we have to take into consideration what the past of it actually is. It doesn't have a central belief system.

Starting point is 01:14:53 The Kabbalah was a later introduction from the 1200 in the Langdok, and that infiltrated Freemasonry became the Scottish right. So we're talking about an infiltration system, really. rather than a religion. So when we look at what has come out of it, we have to ask ourselves, is this a good governing system? Because Sabatize V, he was given a choice in Turkey at the time.

Starting point is 01:15:23 The Sultan said, you either convert to Islam or we execute you. So he converted to Islam, and he became the doorman of the Sultan. So then the followers of Sabatized V became the Don May. and the Don May still exist and the Don May exist in Freemasonic lodges all through Turkey and into Eastern Europe and Central Europe and probably

Starting point is 01:15:45 way beyond. So we're talking about an infiltration system here which is done on the back of people calling themselves Jews. So people have to be very aware of this that we're talking about say people like Sabatize V

Starting point is 01:16:00 he had millions of followers and people follow So in other words, it's a messianic cult, but the messiahs so far have been self-proclaimed and very bad news indeed. So is this a good governing system? It doesn't seem to be, seems to be very self-destructive in that it doesn't know when to stop. And there are reasons for that, because the idea is that the priesthood, the people even behind the Pharisees, knew how to biologically control the people in that cult. And to me, that's much more interesting than talking about this fake religious aspect of it. Yeah, that is some, you just dropped some knowledge right there, dude.

Starting point is 01:16:44 You just drop some knowledge, man. So can we get into a little bit of black magic temples versus the mysterious force? And what your thoughts? Why not? Yeah. Is it too much? I don't know. This has been fire.

Starting point is 01:17:00 Well, the thing is, as we said, I was going to call it. you Johnny again. The two Johnnies. Sam, Sam, Sam. That's fine. I'm fine with Johnny too. I think the thing is that it appeals to people who want knowledge who can look things up because I do like to have a bit of a laugh, but I also love putting information out and receiving information. So yeah, I'd love to talk about that. So I would love to hear your thoughts on it because I think everything is black magic right now and I something. I agree with that. Our guests tried to bring up before, but, you know, a lot of our next tech weaponry to me is just hardwired mysticism. They've just figured out to hardwired.

Starting point is 01:17:45 Like in the Marvel Comics, Dr. Strange, they're able to manipulate energy and your thoughts and get into your head and get you to do, you know, through MK Ultras and lasers and, you know, weather machines and whether they have the ability to time travel and stuff like that, cloaking. that stuff seems to me to be old school magic dark magic tricks and they've they've over centuries fine-tuned it so the whole point about a magic trick is like can you can you do it over and over again right like when that hypnotist goes on he gets people's number all he has to do is be wrong once and he's done right so like that's the key like johnny okay you're psychic sam uh tell me this tell me that well if i can't do it like then you're not psychic on camera anyway but if i can do it constantly all the time johnny may give me an inch and be maybe you're psychic right a tiny inch but these people have been working in this this black black ops dark occult world and they've been just funneling all this

Starting point is 01:18:51 fractional reserve banking money into to fund the ability to be able to do mysticism over and over again at any moment they hit a button so What are your thoughts on the black magic temple versus, you know, the mysterious force? Well, the black magic temple would be the black priesthood. When we look at people who work within the church, they wear black robes. The reason they wear black robes is because they are not spiritually advanced. They offer the day-to-day duties, and they are the dormant of the, priest class. The priest class would only ever wear white. And that goes back to the druids,

Starting point is 01:19:38 you see. So the white is the purification. If they're wearing black, then it goes into this idea that they're either gatekeepers or they're there for no good. And the mysterious force is this story that Freemasonry was put together in 43 AD to destroy the early Christians because they had what is described as a mysterious force. So Freemasonry was set up with someone called Hiram Abiod. And the whole idea was that it would be a counter attack on Christianity, which of course it is. That's what Freemasonry is. And they say that they are multi-denominational.

Starting point is 01:20:26 I know that isn't true. and the whole point is that it goes down to spiritual power. The current elite, in my view, have no spiritual power. They are materialistic atheists and plunderers. Therefore, they are weak. Therefore, they can be defeated easily. Now, not easily in the respect that they can be conquered by land armies because they're controlling everything.

Starting point is 01:20:55 but conquered on a high spiritual level and that I think is the key to what that was about it's about this idea that the current so-called elite are not elite at all they are basically plunderers and their system can never work and it hasn't worked and it will never work because it's based on principles which go against the natural order. Yes, dude. Yes. Does that make sense? 100%.

Starting point is 01:21:33 You know, I've said this before. I'm trying to keep it very concise, obviously. I've said like the universal rule of the universe is love and helping others. And I don't care if you're Klaus Schwab or whatever is named that Larry Fink that runs Black Rock that now runs the WF, you're not big. than the laws of the universe and if you're not helping others and being in love you know acting in love you're going to fall dude it's just energy everything is energy was the energy put out versus what i think this brings up a really good point as to what are they really trying to

Starting point is 01:22:10 achieve because it all came out of the idea of depopulation and control and management of the population but what is the real purpose of that because populations have never been truly managed. There is always this natural tendency to what they call chaos, which you could interpret it as chaos, but it probably isn't. It's the natural order that will find a pressure valve and get out. So they are trying to close all the pressure valves with fake protests, with infiltration of everything and gaslighting of everybody. But what's the purpose? Because they're just going to die. What is the point? There is no progress in this idea of civilization. So my idea was to start a new civilization of people who could be on a higher level of thought

Starting point is 01:23:01 and actually start doing useful things and stop focusing on the nonsense that these people are doing. Because I tried to stop it years ago with the system global to local. And I didn't get any support at all. But I did have a lot of actual success in things I did. and I think that this is the key to it all, it's understanding this, that this idea of black magic is, it's something that I think people just throw around. There are demonic realms, there are people involved in low magic, and that has an effect to a certain level. I've been attacked by low magic on many occasions, but it doesn't work. it only works if you are vulnerable to it and of course as we said earlier if you have a problem

Starting point is 01:23:57 they will get in if you it comes in through sexual abuse through drugs and alcohol and these are the three main gateways but if you have built up your own awareness and educated yourself correctly and you adhere to good principles and it doesn't mean being a do-good or anything. It's just it's a kind of living in providence, living in God's providence, and they're going against that, you see. So then people say, oh, it's there satanic and all this.

Starting point is 01:24:30 Well, I think that when it comes down to it, it's just a system that is not going to work. And our job is to make sure it doesn't work and create new society. outside of the garbage but most people are very willing to waste all their time and energy on issues of no importance arguing over the trivialities the two lies that are put before them and once you get beyond that i find it very very liberating and fascinating the whole thing i've never felt better in my entire life personally yeah yeah i'm with you on that so as we

Starting point is 01:25:10 wrap this up. My question to you is you've dropped some real pearls on us. It's been excellent. I've enjoyed it. Thanks for having me on. So, so the, you can come on any time you want. It's open door. So as we put this out, this will go out on, this will go out on, this will go out Thursday? Yeah, Thursday Friday, right? And people are going to listen to Fridays. This will come on Friday. People listen to this and when they listen to this, what can they do? What can we tell them to do that will help them break out of this and not be a victim to the social engineering that is constantly bombarding them every moment of their day? Concentrate on what's important, living God's providence, and don't follow the two lines.

Starting point is 01:26:10 I would agree with that I would agree with that there's obviously more but you know you wanted me to wrap up there's a sound bike no no no no no no I mean I if you can go into that

Starting point is 01:26:22 a little bit because I would love and then I'm not looking to end the show I just I just want to be like this is kind of how we'll leave it but can you get into that

Starting point is 01:26:32 a little bit is that possible yes I did a show called what is divine providence and the idea is that if you do things in the right way at the right time and that means at the right moment then something opens up and if you do things for exactly the right reason and this is going beyond just trying to say I'm going to help everybody it's it's a kind of

Starting point is 01:27:02 thread that's very very easy to break that I think is incredibly important because if you If you strip away all the distractions and are truly honest with yourself and you work on your own awareness. And by that, I don't mean going into group meditation and stuff like that. Getting into, there are states of mind where you can be open, aware, and they are like meditational states. And from there, everything else is formed. It's like the unified field. and people can get lost on that when they talk to gurus but it's it's a very important place to start and then a lot of the distractions seem to fall away and what i found was that the issues of

Starting point is 01:27:52 no importance then were of no importance because what i see is people i knew from 30 years ago they have not moved on they are in a wrested development. And that's a choice. That's a choice that everybody has to make. We're all naturally lazy and the system feeds the laziness. Because lazy people are incredibly easy to control. So if we get away from that and stop getting addicted to the two lies,

Starting point is 01:28:27 for and against, Republican versus Democrat, materialism versus organized religion, all these stupid false arguments, an argument against them, they are there to waste your time. The way people are governed and the way we are governed is very simple, but it has to start with governing of ourselves. And then our actions become more refined, more useful and above all, more effective. And that, I think, is what these ancient civilizations had. It appears that the ancient druidic priest class were very advanced thinkers and that they had telepathy. Now, telepathy is not something that is abnormal. I think telepathy is something that is quite normal because we all actually experience it at some time or the other.

Starting point is 01:29:24 But because of all the impositions and the nonsense and the education that we've had, which tells us, oh, that could be, It's this. It could be that. It's nothing. Then we go out of focus with ourselves. And when you go out of focus with ourselves, you get what's happening in Israel. You get a genocide. Because that means people are obsessed and easily controlled, and they have a belief system, which is false. So in other words, what's the outcome of that? Nothing good will ever come out of that. And it's beyond a kind of, peace and love thing you know the thing is that people are they're attracted to very simplistic things and that's everybody we all are but I think that if if you work on principles which take you to somewhere higher be in the world and not of it and that doesn't mean going living in a monastery it means carrying this everywhere you go so that you develop a very incisive view and are able to decode more clearly what's going on around you. Because this bi-robotization has taken over most people.

Starting point is 01:30:46 Most people are bi-robots because they cannot focus on something of importance for very long at all. And they cannot take in the significance of things that are really important over trivia. And that's where I think the training comes in. And I think that's where the challenge is, and I think that's what makes life actually really worthwhile. I call it the Lifelong Learning Project. I found that great. This is great. Great episode, man.

Starting point is 01:31:14 Absolutely amazing, Mark. Mark, one more time, tell them where they can find you. Windows on the world.net. I'm doing a live stream tomorrow on my YouTube channel, Windows on the World. On the website, you will find information going back to about 2014 when that website was set up. so yes that's where to find me thanks for having me on sam and johnny and i really enjoyed it thanks for listening and i hope the viewers get something out of it uh they're going to love it just we're brand i just got to ask you a couple questions off here guys thank you so much

Starting point is 01:31:46 for um joining us and let's break down the episode all right guys what did you think about mark windows great guy came in hot i mean dude one of the best episodes we've ever done i mean are we are johnny as a christian or do you have are you have are you open-minded that Britain is the real birth of Christianity? Are you open-minded to that? Sure, I don't think it's relevant at all. I mean, I don't think it impacts what, yeah, the stories in the Bible could have happened on Pluto. I don't care. Do you think it possibly happened on Pluto? It could be. Could it be that far? And that's why they're trying to make us not look at it.

Starting point is 01:32:21 It's funny. I've heard that idea before that the lost years, like of Jesus, possibly he came over on those trade routes. But I hadn't heard that like all the shit in the Bible happened in England, which is fascinating. I mean, it makes sense if they want to shish kababas. I mean, like, again, this state of Israel is not the Israel of the Bible. Johnny, do you have a problem with that? No, of course, it's not. Yeah, and it's like...

Starting point is 01:32:46 I mean, there were kingdoms of Israel in the Bible. It wasn't like that. Israel was basically those who follow the teachings of Jesus. That's what he said, yeah. And it's not a place. I mean, yeah, and then you have a people that are. You know, that were homeless, yeah. Those lost years, do you think the Vatican, those lost years,

Starting point is 01:33:07 do you think the Vatican has proof of it? If there is lost years of Jesus, do you think the Vatican has anything of that? Yeah, they have everything. Because, I mean, how are they lost? How are they lost? To me in my eyes, it's like, how doesn't anyone would have kept? Well, he wasn't, I mean, he wasn't going around preaching, I guess. You know, so, and back then, if you're not famous. Well, they're not called, John.

Starting point is 01:33:25 But they would have asked them before he died. Hey, Jesus, what were you doing? It's not a blog, dude. It's literally years that nobody. actually knows what he did that's why they're called the lost years it's not it's not lost like blog updates no but i'm pretty sure dear diary no i know that but i'm saying they would have asked them like right before when they hey jes what were you doing and when you were 13 and someone must know and someone must have ridden it i don't know i'm just saying it's crazy how just and i don't

Starting point is 01:33:49 say that we have i'm just saying there's a vatican have them if there is any proof of it do you think the vaticans they're holding it back i wouldn't doubt it it's very hard obviously with judaism it's everyone's super sensitive but like catholics are interesting too because i'm all my catholic friends i love them very much but the vatican just more and more comes off as evil more and more evil they're the show hey otani of hiding pedophiles for sure yeah yeah they're i mean they're up there dude israel's pretty bad too no but i'm they're the five tool player of hiding pedophiles the catholics like they yeah the the the israel's kind of the under the radar star you know i mean

Starting point is 01:34:28 Like the guy that is actually almost as good as show-hye, but nobody talks about him because he's slick. Like if it was the Anaheim Angels, like the Catholic Church or the Vatican will be Shotani. And then Mike Trot would be Israel, where it's like, he's great, but he's not as good. It's two Shoh-hays. They're both Shoh-Hae, but he's Shoh-Hey with the angels before he blew, you know, everybody gave a shit because now he's with, you know. But to the trend of Catholics, it's only the priests doing it. well i mean that's that could be applied to almost every religion it's like muslims just random people there's a lot of just they'll defend anybody in mexico if you're catholic and you're not a priest you

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Starting point is 01:40:46 All right, guys. Finally, you know, So, you know, it's so funny, Johnny, because you think I'm an idiot, right? You go, oh, you can't read. You're not smart. You say that all the time. This is all projection by you. I know you.

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Starting point is 01:41:40 Anyways, you heard a lot of things he said doing deep research that we've been talking about on the show for a long time. So I feel like we're really on it and we're doing really well. And again, this show is not about how do we change the world. This show is about how do you change your life and become educated so you don't fall for their siops. That's what this show is about. It's never about leading a movement to change everything. That's never going to work.

Starting point is 01:42:14 Yeah, dog. Yeah, dog. It's all about gold. You're totally right. right it's just like if you listen to us and you realize oh this is their plan you work on yourself locally too work locally act globally work locally that is the key and again we're going to think globally act locally all right guys so enjoy these highlights here's a clip from the latest broken sim uh nick fuentes went on Tucker carlson and it really has softened his messaging I guess

Starting point is 01:42:46 is how you'd say it. Here is where Tucker tells him to his face that he thought he was a Fed. We'll just play a little of this. It's pretty, to me, interesting. I love that they both think the other guys have been. Yeah, yeah, no, you're totally right. That's like the

Starting point is 01:43:02 Spider-Man meme where they're just pointing to each other. Yeah, absolutely. It is. But my Christian faith tells me that there's no such thing as blood guilt. And virtue or sin is not inherited. It's not a feature of DNA. So every person must be assessed individually as God assesses each person

Starting point is 01:43:22 individually. Now the context here is he's talking to Nick about his opinion on the Jays and how he seems to ascribe some kind of guilt to the whole people where it should really be ascribed to, you know, the people who run the Israel. I love it. Yeah. Let's go. That's like a foundational view. So I always thought it's great to criticize and it's question. like our relationship with Israel because it's insane and it hurts us we get nothing out of it i completely agree with you there but the second you're like well actually it's the jews first of all it's against my christian faith like i just don't believe that and i never will period and second then it becomes a way to discredit that's when i was like this guy's a fed

Starting point is 01:44:06 i was totally convinced you were a fed because i was like here he's bear hugging like the one sincere guy who lost his wife in syria thanks to these fucking crazy wars neocon war and he's discredited. He's doing the David Duke. Like, David Duke would always, every time I rolled out a new show, he would issue an endorsement of the show. I've never met the guy.

Starting point is 01:44:26 What's that? Well, it's the feds. Obviously, he's trying to destroy me by his association. Oh, he said David Duke's a fed? Yeah. Let me ask you this. So, if I'm supporting Joe Kent, I'm David Duke bear hugging.

Starting point is 01:44:38 If I attack Joe Kent, I'm attacking the only sincere America first voices. Look, I get it. I mean, I do get it. And I just want to say I love Joe Kent. I don't, I can get into, having been denounced by a lot of people, I like, including Nick Fuentes. I mean, like, this is like, oh, you thought I was a fat.

Starting point is 01:44:55 I thought you were a fact because you said your dad was CIA. Did they get into that? Yes. I hurt my feelings. You know what I mean? Oh, my feelings are. I get it, dude. My feelings get hurt to.

Starting point is 01:45:05 You know, it's like, why are you denouncing me? Why don't you call me? Yeah. Right? Yeah. Get that. I guess the two problems. But then on the other hand, like one of my favorite people in the world is Glenn Greenwell.

Starting point is 01:45:15 Yeah, I love Glenn. Oh, what a good man. Glenn must have spent like 10 years attacking me full time. Tucker Carlson is da-da-da-da-da-da. And some of his criticism was correct, actually. You know, a tool of the neocons endorsing these fucking wars. Like, he was right. But he really hated me.

Starting point is 01:45:33 And then when we started to agree on stuff, I was like, you know what? It's not about me. I don't care. Like, I don't want personal peak or my hurt feelings to govern my behavior. I guess that's what I'm saying. I'm not lecturing you. I get it. But I feel like,

Starting point is 01:45:48 gay, pissed you off. It's in a campaign. He's got 19 consultants. This kids are Nazi. Be careful of him. I'm like, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:45:54 Let it go. Nazis are just thrown everywhere. And that's why I don't take it personally at all. And I like you. I've said very positive things about you on my show as well. I don't care. Stop. Stop.

Starting point is 01:46:07 This is where Nick Flentes gets in trouble. And I love Nick Plentez. Okay. I would say what, what's your, biggest criticism, Nick Fuentes, and who am I? Nobody follows me. Is that when he gets into rooms with people,

Starting point is 01:46:22 he has completely different energy than when he's alone on his show. Now, I get that because you just want to play, you know, you kind of just want to get along with people. But for Nick Fuentes, I say good things about you. I'm not saying you don't say any good things about him, but you've definitely hammered him. To the point, he had to basically acknowledge

Starting point is 01:46:44 that he said his dad was a CIA agent now I haven't we haven't watched the rest of the clip I didn't want to watch most of the show until we did this show so I could have a you know an honest reaction to it that's that's that's Nick's biggest problem and and maybe it comes with time and it's like that's not really the worst thing to have is that you kind of are cordial and when you yeah it's tough right because you want to do you do want to be cordial but you also want to you know have some core values that you stick to even when you're in a difficult spot. You think you have always thought that Tucker Carlson is CIA and there's great argument for that.

Starting point is 01:47:23 There's an argument for that. Nick Twentis has. Yeah. So they both accused the other of being a Fed. It's just the way it is. Yeah. Right? It's just the way it is.

Starting point is 01:47:35 I know, but I mean to say that my goal is America first. Right. It's not about me. It's not about my personality. It's about winning for America, you know, and by winning, I mean, we want to see our vision realized. But with Joe, for me, it was very specific that he said inclusive populism. And I really didn't like that because to me, there were a lot of similar phrases at this time, multiracial, working class, populism, this kind of stuff. And I said, you know, on some level, we do need to be.

Starting point is 01:48:12 be exclusive, not inclusive. We do need to be right-wing. We do need to be Christian. We do, on some level, need to be pro-white, not to the exclusion of everybody else, but recognizing that white people have a special heritage here as Americans. And so the reason I opposed him in 22 was not because I was mad, but it was to say, America first cannot backslide into this kind of inclusive populism message, which I perceive to be more like GOP slop. And I'll tell you, when he ran again in 24, I did not oppose him. I did not oppose him. And I would have supported him if he had reached out or something like that.

Starting point is 01:48:51 Because for me, it was very political and professional. I wanted to impose a cost. If you disavow someone because they criticize Israel, if you disavow someone for talking about white people and Christianity, I said, we can't let that slide. Because, and you understand why he did it. Like I don't, on some level, I don't hold it against him in the sense that, there's such a strong incentive it's easy to say i disavow all these crazy that's what i most

Starting point is 01:49:20 wanted to ask you about this idea that he felt that he needed to punish people essentially you know to like he said impose a cost he put it probably the best way to put it uh for doing those things you know what i mean because otherwise they would go without penalty without any kind of uh so he's saying he likes to punish people that he feels is pushing a false narrative or yeah essentially yeah i miss or or criticizing other people for attacking israel you know i mean like or being say you know attacking why israel is done uh he he uh what do you think about it almost like to i mean it's kind of a vigilante mindset and i know that appeals to you what do you think that's kind of his game yeah whether it's right

Starting point is 01:50:04 or wrong i i don't know that's individual but that's kind of what he does and there is something about if you'd like to hear the rest of this episode subscribe to broken simulation in your podcasting app or check us out at YouTube.com slash Sam Tripoli. I don't know.

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