Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #939: Psychic Monkey Bears With Matt Vaugh

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

In the latest Tin Foil Hat episode, Sam Tripoli and guest Matt Vaugh dive into psychic Bigfoot, a James Shelby Downard inspired magical praxis to break the King Kill 33 spell in Dallas 63 through TrineDay’s Lovefield ceremony, and how AI can help create positive timeline magic. Matt also shares stories of the little dwarves he saw and the Menehune of Hawaii, connecting ancient myths, hidden realities, and the evolution of consciousness. A wild mix of magic, mystery, and mind expansion.Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet:Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoliPlease Follow Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedyPlease Follow Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/Huge thank you to our sponsors: CMC: True Classic: You can find them at Amazon, Target, Costco, and Sam’s Club, or head to TrueClassic.com/TINFOIL to grab the perfect gift for everyone on your list.Mint Mobile: Ready to say yes to saying no? Make the switch at mintmobile.com/tinfoilSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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There was a little confusion before the show, and the man stepped right in, called right up. Who was that pitcher for the Dodgers that went four innings? What was his name? I haven't been watching the World Series. You're like that pitcher that was on the couch in Arizona three weeks ago, and then he pitched four scoreless innings in the World Series. Very excited to have Vaughn.

He is a writer, a researcher, and a podcaster, and he dabbles in stand-up comedy. Very excited to have him on. Please welcome Matt Vaughn. Matt, how are you? Yeah, I'm great. I am so happy to be here. I was, I got called up to the bigs.

So if the show doesn't go that well, that is my excuse. I was literally just minding my business, and then someone said, you want to be on Sam Tripoli's show, which is one of my goals with writing this book. And I have always thought through, like, if I'm on Sam's show, I know what I'll tell him. Be careful what you wish for people. You just might get it. Buddy, you're crushing it already. You're in. You're in.

You're in. Very excited. So, Matt, you know, for those who may not be familiar with you, can you tell us a little bit about yourself, your background, and where our listeners can find you? Yes, I've written a book called My Cosmic Trigger, and it's My Cosmic Trigger, High Strangeness in Theory and Practice, which is published by Trine Day. They do Whitney Webb's book, and they do the Peter LeBendez books. So you can learn more about me by going to mycosmictrigger.com. I also publish a lot of my new writings on Substack. That's Salas of the wake.

Substack.com. I am a long-term researcher of the paranormal. And also for my day job, I am a psychotherapist. So I like to say if you would like a psychotherapist who is crazier than you are, than I am your guy. I love that, dude. You're going to get some calls. You're going to get some calls.

I got some opening. So you know, if you want to find out if you're crazy, ask a crazy person. That's right. That's right. I like to say you're going to have to get up real early in the morning to, to, to, if, freak me out. Okay. We're all open-minded here. We don't kinkshame on this show, okay? Come as you are, as you were. We'll probably get copyright struck for that. Okay. Do you also have a website? It's my cosmic trigger.com. Okay. We'll make sure all that's in there and we'll put your social

medias too. Very excited. I see the first note is psychic Bigfoot. I am. all about that. We haven't done a good cryptid episode in a long time. And we need to go back to that more. You know, we can talk about the Jews for only so many times. The mysteries. We got to get into the alternative realms of reality. I agree. Where do you want to begin, buddy? Yeah, so all of my research is leading me these days to psychic bigfoot. It is the crypted phenomena that is showing itself more than others. The people who've reached out to me with this book are sharing really wild stories that are very credible that I cannot speak about. If I could tell you, I'd only want to tell Sam in person in a skiff. I wouldn't even tell it. Why can't you tell us? Is it that

did you sign a confidential agreement or is it that they, oh, dude, I can't believe you told them about the time I made out with Bigfoot. Like, what, what is it that you can't tell us? No, Sam. You're trying to trick me, man. You're trying to trick me. You're trying to trick me. No way, dude.

Just think of the movie, think of the TV show, Stranger Things, and then use your imagination. Oh, so we're talking government shit here. We're talking high-end government, M.K. Ultra, psychic interdimensional departments of the government? I mean, I've never heard of MK Ultra or the government, so I'm not even sure what you're talking about. Honestly. You have a whole world to learn about, you know.

That's great, dude. That's great. Without getting into specifics, in your book, you talk about psychic Bigfoot, am I right? yes yes so i talk about it in connection to the carleton vortex now are you aware of course you're aware that was silly question i was going to ask are you aware of skin walker ranch yeah i'm good friends with a guy who basically runs a part of it yeah yeah yeah so so i in the course of writing this book i got connected with a guy who found the skinwalker ranch of the south uh and he's got books

called the meadow project there's a documentary out now the confessional guys yes we love that tony merkle wonderful podcast wonderful yeah yeah highly recommend this book so he has found a um this what he calls the Skinwalker Lodge of the South, but I, I, it's such a convoluted story, how I know the guy. We're all about those. We love convoluted. All right. So in the book, he, when he was at the meadow, he had an interaction with what, what now is termed the Bigfoot lady.

The, excuse me, the monkey bear lady. the monkey bear lady new cryptid new cryptid alert new cryptid alert monkey bear lady i'm in dude i've never heard a monkey bear lady i've been with some monkey bear ladies bro bro i can get you the monkey bear lady she's a trip i can get let's pull her in you know let's why not anybody anybody listening jump on the show right now so all right so trey hudson is his name he has a very he's been on a lot of the podcast he talked about the monkey bear lady on the higher side chats and so I'm listening to a podcast with Trey and he went to the University of West Georgia. So that's where I went to grad school. It is the only humanistic

and transpersonal oriented program on the East Coast. So I like to say that the University of West Georgia is like my Hogwarts. There was a pair of psychologists there. There was a pair of psychologists there, Dr. William Roll. So, so, okay, so Trey Hudson went to this school. University of West Georgia. Okay, I've got to go visit this place. Wow, on a list.

Well, but check this out. So the university has the archives of Ingo Swan. So I'm guessing you know Ingo Swan, the viewer. No. So Ingo Swan was one of the preeminent. remote viewers and worked with the government. So Dr. Role, who I was his assistant, I cleaned out his gutters and transcribed his interviews for one semester.

He was friends with Ingo Swan. So because Ingo Swan had the affiliation with the department, his archives are in the University of West Georgia Library. I mean, this is wild stuff. So Ingo Swan reported seeing structures on the dark side of the moon. I mean, we're talking, you know, tin, full hat stuff. Yeah. So, so the monkey bear lady.

So I'm listening to Trey Hudson's story. And what he reports is they're in the meadow researching all of this stuff. And they, somebody out of the blue, out of nowhere, comes on to the. property and is saying, I got to take you to go see the monkey bears. And also, it turned out that this person said, when they got to talking with the monkey bear lady, so it turned out the monkey bear lady and Trey Hudson, the lead researcher, went to the same psych department. So if you have gone to West Georgia and you meet somebody from West Georgia, it's like one of those things where it's like, oh my God, you know, you have an instant connection. But it freaked out

Trey and his team because no one knew they were out there. So then the monkey bear lady rolls up. And it was just after they saw a cube in the meadow proper. And one of their team members materialized into an orb form. And then they get back. and the monkey bear lady is at base camp and it's freaking them out so he even thought hold on hold on hold on so what he grabbed the cube did he grab the cube and he and he so we're all we're all out in the field and we see a cube and xg's like hey i want to touch it and he grabs it and he just becomes an orb is that what happened and then we never see xg again oh Well, what he reports is they have those night vision goggles and they see the orb.

I mean, they see the cube. And then also in that same, say, like 10 minutes, their researcher who's out there turns into a orb and he loses time and doesn't remember how he got from point A to point B. And then they said, hey, dude, did you just turned into an. orb what it's crazy stuff then you got to have you got to have tray on tray um tray um tray worked for department of homeland security easy fellas uh you know so uh you know so uh all right so all that happens and then my the monkey bear lady comes to camp the campsite and they called tray on the walkie talkie talk and they're like, there's some woman who says she knows you from West Georgia talking about monkey bears and they come and he comes back after all this has just happened and now they're talking to the monkey bear lady about West Georgia.

So he tells this story and he's on these podcasts and he's like, okay, maybe she was a men in black, you know, all this stuff. And I'm thinking, right, that's got to be somebody I know. That sounds like somebody from West Georgia who would be at a Bigfoot campout portal unannounced. And I reached out to Trey and I was like, yo, dude, told him about my research. And I said, can you give me her name? And he gave me her name. And it is definitely, yeah, so I know her. I'm stating contact with.

No, but she'll be. I bet you she should be on the show. I'm pretty sure. And you knew her through your research through the university? Yeah, she was a classmate. She was one of those classmates. And she stayed in contact with her through the years. She is not a man in black.

So I think this incident opens up a really big component of high strangeness research. Okay. I'm really sorry. People are going to yell at me because I keep stopping you. but did you go? How did you know they were there? Yes, but she reports that what she will do is she's a therapist. So after work, she'll just drive around sort of to unwind in this forest.

And she reports that she saw a, When she was driving around, she saw a Bigfoot sticker on one of the cars, and she wanted to share with them her experiences. So when she was little, she had Bigfoot encounters with her sister in this area. And it's a fascinating story she gives about the Bigfoot encounters she had when she was little. Now she reports that they were psychic and that they protected her from. skin walkers or something like that oh there's a battle between the skin walkers and the big foots dude something like more about that i'll listen to that all day i mean you've heard tired of alien versus predator i want to see go on you've heard of that four one one when those kids

go missing they always feel like someone they're protecting them or somehow they don't go missing how they've been gone for three four days and the kids just perfectly fine i'm like it feels like it could be like bigfoot like the mystic bigfoot yeah i mean that's on the table at this point i mean anything's possible i mean that's crazy that the bigfoot's go to war with the skin walkers or some oh no no wait not wasn't skin walker i apologize i believe it was dog man that's even crazy yeah dog what dog man is skin walkers i apologize i'm spreading fake news no dude you're right on point they have different names to pay them where you are who you're putting your money on i mean if bigfoot's psychic yeah right it's hard to be oh skin walker though also you just

throw a stick and dog man's off. Yeah, dog man's running. Anyone got tennis ball and you just throw it. You never see him again. You've got tennis ball. He just starts...

Dude, listen, when the dog man comes up, just starts scratching under his hair. I just carry a bag of hot dogs with me every time I go in the woods. Hot dog, you're all too cute. And he throw it. Run! Run!

All of a sudden, you trip the guy that's got all the hot dogs. You just trip them. Sorry, dude. I got kids. I got to go. good luck good luck uh go i i don't make fun of uh dog man y'all i'm not catching that heat uh okay you all can make fun of dog wait hold hold on hold you think they might listen to the podcast are you afraid of dogman getting you or the people who like go go to bat for dog man getting you

i was thinking about literal dog man you're afraid okay so you think he's like literal psychic dog man who are offended oh he's psychic too see dude i'm in i'm in on all this man man sorry dog man we know you're yeah yeah it was a hello it was just jokes please

I wonder if dog man gets sarcasm it's a good question we'll find out I guess yeah we will find out he's the underdog this guy punny Mexican

over here you should say you bastard what are you doing so so Um, so she says that the big foots protected her from the dogmen. The psychic bigfoot's battled the, the psychic dogmen.

Yes, that is what she reports. Damn. Now, I was not there, so I can't say for sure. But that is what she reports. And so I, you know, okay, so I think I want to point this out. This is one of the things that I wanted to say, if I was ever on Sam's show, I wanted to say this. So here we are. I do think when we get involved in this research, like what Trey experienced, this weird

synchronicity, there's no reason that the monkey bear lady should show up at their research. The impulse was to be like, this is a man in black. However, what I like to say in the book, this is the synchronicity principle. So synchronicity is so powerful that these kind of events happen. And here's the thing. there's some people like on the higher side chats forum when trey was on this on the higher side chats talking about this people were like uh tray hudson is lying this the he knows the monkey bear lady like she is uh he's lying about this and it's like the only person who would know for sure is

me and my wife who know the monkey bear lady and we're just like yeah this makes perfect sense it's the monkey bear lady, showing up randomly. So the synchronicities are so powerful that there is a tendency to think it is the nefarious they. And that is one of the things I talk about with my research with James Shelby Downard. I and Hoffman, I think they put too much power in what they call the cryptocracy. and I think that is a illusion. And so I have a message of good hope here is what I'm trying to say.

I'm all about that, dude. We could use that nowadays, right? A little hope. Does she like being called the monkey bear lady? She's like I said one time. Now everyone just calls me it all the time. It's got to be hard on Tinder, be like, also known as the monkey bear lady. You're like, oh, dude, psychic chicks.

No, thank you. She's kind of leaned into it. and she had a substack. She was going by Monkey Bear Lady. Sam, if you want to have a good episode, I'll hook you up. She's a trip, man. Very funny. It's got to be like Debbie, right?

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Has she described to you what monkey bears look like? Like, do we know what an... Is it look like a monkey humped bear? Now we got some weird Chinese hybrid. It's an important question. Johnny, it's not important. It is. No, I'm not being.

Is it more monkey, more bear? Is it more monkey more bad? That was just her name when she was a kid. That was just their name for Bigfoot. Oh. Oh, that's what she calls Bigfoot. Okay. The monkey bear.

Now, I interviewed her about this. If anybody wants to listen, go to Salas of the Wake. But you're going to have to be a Patreon subscriber to hear the full monkey bear a lady's story. But, you know, for the right price, you will hear this story. So she reports, and I always thought she meant that she saw them as a kid. And she, when I did the interview with her, she was saying, no, it's all, it was all psychic. They just got the impression these were Bigfoot. And the name her and her friend gave them was Monkey Bears. Wow. So she found your friends in the field doing research one of them turns into an orb and then she comes up she's like let me show

you the monkey bears and the mom she was going to take them where the monkey bears are yes and they were freaked out so these are like so tray is like ex-military military military intelligence easy fellas okay just everybody relax uh so so and there was like police officers because you know like they were proper Bigfoot researchers. So I need to point this out to the audience. Bigfoot researchers are very mainstream folks. They're not into the paranormal. So psychic Bigfoot is a subset of the overall Bigfoot genre.

So these were mainstream Bigfoot researchers, and they were freaked out by the monkey bear lady. And they even, this is in the book, the Meadow Project. So they did a perimeter sweep after she left with firearms because they thought they were going to, she was going to rob them. They were really freaked out. So it's so funny to me because only a therapist from West Georgia can freak out military intelligence, you know, police officers hunting Bigfoot. Like that makes perfect sense in my world. Now, are they hunting Bigfoot as an official military operation?

Like, is this through the government? Is it once a spook always a spook? Government. You keep using that word. I don't know this term government. What this means. Now, I do address this Sam in the book. I address this, my cosmic trigger, I address this question in the book.

Now, Trey says he is not. It is just a hobby. Now, I explore other possibilities in the book. And in his second book, he even talks about how I explore. Or when he was on my podcast, we talk about it. So obviously, the first time I talked to him, I was like, listen, I'm paranoid just like the next listener of Tenful Hat. So I was like, dude, are you part of? He's like, No, this is part of my hobby. But I don't know, Sam. I don't know. Okay. So it's possible. It's possible. But I'll say this. I will never go to the Meadow.

I will never go. There's really, so Trey reports he was almost sucked into a slip dimension. And that's where he talks about, he says maybe I was almost like a missing 411 sort of situation. Well, I'm sorry. Can you briefly? just say what the meadow is where they found the black cube yes okay so the meadows where they found the black cube was it black cube or just a cube a cube just a cube that's a good point just a cube i assumed it was black i i don't i didn't even hear him say black cube i thought i thought

you just introduced yeah i did but he said cube i'm thinking of like a multicolored cube is really what i'm thinking of like a prismatic cube like a crystal almost okay all right respect on that so it could be this cube could look like anything we don't know i was thinking a red white and blue cube oh it's a very patriotic yeah from some entity that we can't name yeah that's right that's right okay but the the slip dimension what is that how what how did he what was indicating to him that he might have been pulled into an alternate dimension or something so he reports he's at the meadow and all of a sudden he's walking around and everything looks different and he doesn't he's like he's never been in this area and then his other researcher who's

with him said sort of like snapped him out of it and was like Trey hey um you know said his name and he came to and everything looked the same again and in the book he speculates that he maybe he was going to be like one of those missing four one one people damn um and also there's been um I think at least one guy, maybe two, associated with their research team that have passed. And in the second book, The Meadow Revisited, they talk about, they put one of the researchers, his ashes. They spread his ashes at the meadow. So I'm not going. There's no part of me that will go.

I mean, every man has a price, but for free, I'm not, I have no desire to go to the meadow and see. the South's Skinwalker Lodge, no way. Where was it again, specifically? Well, that, that is secret. Now, he, he makes people sign non-disclosures because he doesn't want it to be like overrun, like Skinwalker. Does it turn to, can you say the state, though? Can you say the state?

I think it's Georgia. It is Georgia. It's where the school is. Okay. I, no, I, whoa, that was your words. That was your words. Yeah, I don't think you said. I, that was your words.

was your words. Thank you for telling us. I can either confirm to deny. But the reason I know where it is is because I know the monkey bear lady and she told me, you know. Is it, is it as crazy as Skin Walker Ranch, like that much activity or we're just talking here and there? I mean, enough that I ain't going, you know, so there's, he's got a fair amount of, of research. So, so, so he's, so he's, he got pulled he almost slipped into what again i mean i'm just calling it a slip dimension i don't know what a now he didn't go into that dimension or did he for a second he got back out was it like he said he said it was like uh he was seeing like it was in a different place for a few seconds

and in in stranger things that we're kind of the upside down the upside down world was when you know when the wizard of oz it goes to technicolor i was thinking like that you know like oh you're in Well, he just said it was unrecognizable. So, you know, he didn't say it was anything nefarious. It was just it was unrecognizable. And then he snapped out of it. Wow, I wonder what that is. I wonder what that was.

I mean, dude, you got to have tray on the show, man. You got to have a portal, too, like some type of portal. Yeah, I mean, we know there's portals all over Skinwalker Ranch, all over Arizona. yeah dude there's some creepy stuff out there so there's also portals in western north carolina so that is one thing i talk about in my book the the high strangeness in the region i'm from western north carolina just throwing that out there oh you're north carolina guy huh yeah yeah cool man we're about generally and i'm from north carolina too i'm not the mountains uh colwell county so near boon yeah of course not i spent plenty of time there

Ah. Oh, you know, you know, I'm from North Carolina. Yeah, yeah. I'm from North Carolina. Yeah. Oh, y'all get a kick out of this. You know, we have, in this county, we have the second Google server farm in our county. That is our claim to fame. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Radiation. You know, you know, it's interesting because they say if you look at those maps that people pass around about what the, and I think it's just, you know, fear mongering. But what will remain if tsunami is kind of white. the United States off the map. It's like that strip of the Appalachians, like, down to... Well, that, and then, like, the Rocky Mountains and, like, Colorado and stuff. That's been, like, the environment, because it won't get, it won't get in there, or what's...

Well, just because of the altitude, I assume, yeah. Well, they say, if you want to go somewhere to prepare for the end of the world, Knoxville is the best place to be. Yeah, it's also, that's in that same range. Yeah, yeah. It's all right. Because of the hills and fresh water. Yeah. It's probably be the only place. It makes sense, I mean. I'm about to get a place out there. Yeah, it's all good. No, but I must say. say i don't think the world's ending y'all i'm very optimistic with these psychic big foot we're going to be

okay we're going to be okay okay i like that i like that i'm very optimistic so this guy does this research and his friend turns into her or the monkey bear lady shows up and now when you go hey you freak them out what'd she say um man she just told me her side of the story and i hook her up with Trey. So they have talked and his interactions with her is in the second book. Now, let's tie it into Psychic Bigfoot. So you asked the connection. So she told me she had a dream where psychic Bigfoot came to her and said, let me heal you. Let me heal you. Or I can heal you. We can heal you. So I read about this in the book. So as I'm writing about this in the book, I had another researcher in from the area now he is a high strangeness researcher

who who studies a lot of um what is that guy's name oh my god uh got i'm getting old y'all the most famous high strangeness got keel john keel um he's a keel scholar john keel scholar and he found the carleton vortex so carleton is where the University of West Georgia is. So he's found a lot of different paranormal phenomena with the Carrollton area. So while the monkey bear lady told me her dream was psychic bigfoot,

he told me a similar dream with psychic bigfoot. And he said he had this dream where a group of bigfoot came to him and they were having like a bigfoot gathering, which he said is, rare. I mean, we assumed is rare because you don't want to get caught if you're a big foot, so you don't group up. And they just told him that we are not what you think, which we assumed meant we assumed that meant like we're not like just, you know, undiscovered nocturnal

ape. So all that happened in the same time. And I also had another, I had a dream my myself at that time, which I talk about in the book, but maybe I just had Bigfoot on the brain. So what's your dream? Well, I was hoping you wouldn't ask, Sam. So the dream was this. And I talked about it in the book. I was in the mountains of North Carolina, and I saw a family of Bigfoot. And then some sort of governmental group.

came and the Bigfoot ran away. So that is a government group, should you say? Yeah, yeah. Like human or like Bigfoot government? Yeah, human, human, human, like a, yeah. And then they ran away and that was your dream. That was it.

That's all that happened. Now, there's a member of my group. I do have a group. It's called the Chaplains of Peril. And we do high strangeness. It's high strangest magic. It's like a, apocalyptic support group, which I think most people more people should have. I know. It's

really tough times. But during the big hurricane Helene, he reached, you know, we're talking about psychic Bigfoot and everything. And I don't know what to think about it, but I'm just telling my research, okay? And he said, I know this is crazy, but Bigfoot came to me right before the hurricane and said, I'm going to protect the house. And then a tree fell on the house next door. But his house was safe. And now

we do think there is a big foot in the backyard, but probably upset too much. Psychic. It's like, I help you. And then you go out of podcast and tell everybody about it. I did you a favor. I said, loose lips sink shit. And you just... Right, right, right.

Well, I mean, do you guys ever have dreams that turn out to be real? Like, you're like, damn, dude, or something connect to the reality? Yeah. Really? Like, on point, Johnny? No, I mean, but I've had, like, after people die, I've talked to the people who died and stuff, like, occasionally. But what they say to you, Jai? We're like, it's all good over here.

It was my grandfather. Like, after my grandfather died, I, I, uh, wrong camera. um i talked to him he was on the farm and i was like talking i was like hey hey grandpa and then and then it like i kind of woke up in the dream i was like wait a man you're not supposed to be here and he's like oh yeah you're right i'm not uh no if okay i remember now i saw him and i said what are you doing here and he said oh i'm just finishing up some work and then i said wait a minute it's not you're not supposed to be here and he's like oh yeah he says i'm on vacation is what he said my grandpa who never took a day off in his life and

and then it just kind of went away but it was it felt it was vivid it was like a vision you know what i mean like it was incredibly vivid and what do you think of met i don't know i probably literally that he was like kind of because there you know if you can't leave no there are beliefs that you know there's the days after you die you kind of are like going through a spiritual process you know what i mean uh and you're kind of still around a little bit briefly and i think maybe he was actually doing that finishing up some work as he said and then and then he was going on vacation, you know what I mean? Like, the big nap.

There's this viral video that my dad sent me and everybody in Mexico sending each other. It's this mom of her just having her daughter, but the grandmother, yeah, yeah, she just had her daughter, but the grandmother never met her, but the grandmother was super excited to have, like, like her granddaughter. The mother passes away, and they go back to the grandmother's house, and the little girl's first time there she starts closing the doors like the mom used to starts walking around like the mom used to and they're like she's never

I guess the grandma would walk around with her hands behind her back this little two-year-old or whatever toddler is walking around with the back just those Mexican genetics it's got to tidy up it could be that but it's all viral because they're saying that the spirit of the grandma was there and she was kind of like okay so the woman had a baby and her mom wasn't around anymore passed away the grandma the grandma passed away

they went back to her like her like her her permanent home. And they were like, hey, grandma used to live here. And then the toddler just walking around and doing little things that the mom used to do. And you see the mom started crying. She's like, my mom used to do that. How does she know? And it's like this viral thing.

We're like how Johnny said. That's really interesting. If she's still around or these little things, is the girl just kind of. Imagine if you're your mom's mom now. It's weird. The mom was reborn. And now you're the mom. Like, oh, yeah, guess who's going to get a spoon now, huh?

I mean, that's no different than what they do. That's no different than what they do with, you know, what's the Dalai Lama? You know, they have to pick some poor fucking kid to suffer a life of celebrity like that. You know what I mean? It's like reincarnated, you know? But, I mean, they say you're reincarnated from your beginning.

So, I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that. You've ever had one with that? Yeah, like a vision kind of dream? Like, have you had that? No, but I have had like reoccurring dreams. I've had dreams outside myself where or memories where I'm looking outside at myself.

And it's, I've talked about before. Memories? Yeah. Yeah. Where like the memory is, uh, is of me outside myself. Interesting.

Where I watch myself walk into my, my childhood home's living room. And I'm looking right at myself. And I've had this my whole lot. I don't remember not having this, this memory where I was just like, dude, that's me. Whoa.

What the fuck? Yeah. I had a few, I had one that was very real. kid i used to sleepwalk though so it's i can't trust much of this stuff from when i was a kid i used to be like a really bad so i'd just go and leave places like they used to worry like in college but it ended right before i got to college but they were worried that i was gonna fall off the balcony where's the weirdest place you ever walked to well just i mean i was on a farm

like not far you can go you know what i mean like it just into a field basically out the door that's crazy none of your ex-girlfriends or girlfriends have ever told you like oh johnny no no i don't do it anymore i haven't done in years no not my mom still does it though and it's Terrifying. I thought about it. I'd take advantage of you. I'd just say, oh, I was sleepwalking. You take advantage of your mom?

No. Come on, I said I'd take advantage of sleepwalking. I would, of my disability. I would just say, oh, that was me sleepwalking. Yeah, I'd sorry. Were you fooling around? I mean, I was sleepwalking. I'd call my mom.

It's happened before. Doing that sleep fucking. Sometimes I sleepwalk. Sometimes I sleep fuck. It's like, it's not me, dude. Did you lose our life savings at the poker table again? I was a little bit. Dude, did you hear, have you heard that story? I saw your video on TikTok. Why are you ordering drinks?

Steve Martin. I'm a sleep drinker. Steve Martin has this story that he stopped taking Ambien because one night he went to sleep. And he woke up and his poker account, his online gambling account had like tons of money in it. And he said that's the only time he's ever won is when he took Ambien and then sleep played poker. And he knew it was like it had to be another person. and, like, inhabiting his body because he never wins at poker, except for the time he played and doesn't remember it or anything. Oh, that's got a suck of drug act.

He was more powerful than normally. Well, that's what it is, too, it's that addiction part of the brain. That was, like, because people think of the things they do when they're, that's like eating out of the refrigerator is very common. It's like anger stuff, people getting violent and then gambling. Curious. Matt, you thought? Hell, yeah.

Have you had visions or anything like that? like other than the one you said like anything else that comes to me i mean i've had all kind of stuff but i have also had one of the first sort of well i mean i've had all kind of stuff but i've had a my grandfather came to me in a dream as well interesting and that was one of the first sort of experiences that open me up to the interactions with that realm but i've had i've had a fair amount of stuff regarding people who have passed over.

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Up front payment of $45 required equivalent to $15 a month. Limited limited time new customer offer for the first three months. months only speeds may slow down over 35 gigabytes on unlimited plan tax and fees extra cement mobile for details and we thank that for sponsoring the show well i'll share this and it was interesting i was just telling my uncle this story sam who i believe you might know his son my cousin who is one of your colleagues, a comedian. But first, let me tell the story. So in the dream, my grandfather came to me and it was, I was in the basement of his home and I was walking on a skeleton, a ladder made of bones. Wow. Yeah. That's weird. Yeah. And what do you think that meant? I think there's a,

My spiritual practice is very much, I believe interacting with our ancestors is very important for our own consciousness, you know, expansion. So I think that's what that was about. And, you know, other cultures are more open to that, obviously, which, you know, talking about the Mexican culture, Day of the Dead and all that stuff. And there's reverence for dreams. You know, we've lost that in the West, you know, but the, and I think that's why we don't remember many of them. It's because we've, you know, as a culture, kind of dismiss them, you know, psychology's had a, no offense, but psychology's had a lot to do with that, you know, it's kind of dismissing them as, you know, kind of a mangled or, you know, like a, kind of a mixed-matched version of, you know, just your daily, what do they call it? You, like, offloading your, your, your kind of your inventory from your brain for the day. So you really believe that, not that every dream, but most dreams.

Not every, I think there's a difference between, like, a proper, like, vision and then, like, that thing that's more like a maintenance. So I have a dream that happens not every so often, but it's for some reason I play baseball, which I've never paid. Is it in English or Spanish? It's in English. So I'm playing baseball. So I'm playing baseball, and for some reason I'm up at bat, and I'm supposed to obviously hit the bat, I hit the ball, but I miss it and the ball hits me in my teeth and my teeth fall off. And I've looked it up plenty of times and supposedly your teeth falling off is you're scared of something. Yeah, I have a lot of teeth fall.

out. Yeah. And I don't know how often you guys get that, but it's so weird because I've never played baseball and my teeth always fall out. It's the ultimate relief waking up to and your teeth being good. And I wake up and I check if I have my teeth. I'm like, thank God. I'm like, oh my God, I thought I lost my teeth. But it's so scary. And I guess I was just talking about that yesterday, the teeth dream. It's funny you brought that up. Matt, you want to say something? May I, I, one of the things I do as a therapist, I do dream interpretation. So do you mind if I take a stab at the dream. I mean, John, you don't need teeth to suck dick, I guess.

Well, I do want to say, before we do this in front of God and everybody, so I've had this happen before, like, with coworkers who will tell me a dream, and then I interpret it, and they're like, way, how did you know that? So it could get awkward, so if you're full awkward, we're all awkward. It's all awkward, it's all good. Well, wait, you're playing baseball with a bat that doesn't work. Uh-oh. Oh, you're saying with my talk.

Yeah, yeah, dude. I mean, blue-choo. One of the only Mexicans I know without kids. He's one of the only Mexicans. Well, Johnny, too, though, no kids. I don't have a bat, though, in my dream. Yeah, he doesn't have a bat. You're shooting blanks, bro.

It could be. Which is a blessing in some ways. I've never had a scare, so maybe you're right. Maybe you should go get your sperm count. Los Spernitos, checked. I don't know what it is, but I know it's not that. He was assuming I'd go to a Mexican doctor to get my fucking... I'm going to a witch doctor.

This is a guy with sage and candles over your balls. Hey, oh, I don't know, da, da, da, sorry, this might be the weirdest show you've ever been on, but I'm having a great time. Well, Johnny, can you explain to us how you lose your teeth so he can tell you that? His wasn't about a bat. Yours was about a bat that didn't work. I know. I was just gone. They're like falling out.

It's just like a kind of medical condition. My teeth are falling out. Does that mean he's got a drug problem? I could be. Well, here's the thing I want to say with dreams. So everybody's dream symbolism is going to be different. So what my teeth falling out symbolizes is going to be different for another person. but there are overall sort of similarities, but teeth falling out is a fairly common one.

You see that a fair amount with people who have eating disorders. That is one thing. And also, both of y'all, for a living, speak. So it makes me think maybe there is some tension regarding that and anxiety regarding performing. Could it be me firing them? Are they constantly worried about that? I mean, I have another one that I've always had since childhood And I think I can kind of pinpoint the origin

But it's like tornadoes Like I still have vivid dreams of tornadoes Are the ones I remember the most of In the field at my home farm And I think it's from when I was a kid You know, I told you there was like a microburst And my legs were just dangling the air My dad's like holding me by the arm

Yeah, I was in a field And we were there was a storm coming up one of those late You're from North Carolina You know every afternoon during the summer you could have a nasty thunderstorm just roll in like that and we were out in a field digging a drainage ditch uh for water to run off uh behind the the chicken farm and uh and a storm was coming up my dad just don't give a fuck bro about lightning or he's just not safe he's not a safe person and i was like damn we should probably get out of here and we were just kept digging because we were trying to get this trench dug before the storm and uh then this went i mean it just starts getting bad all of a sudden these black clouds come in and this micro bird my dad is grabbing by the arm my legs are in the air it lifts me off the ground and he was and he's like holding on to the the like the the wall of the place barn like the barn behind and my bike gets deposited over a fence and in a field like 50 yards

away and uh you know it's terrifying it's that's crazy yeah it was crazy and i still i think probably i have these tornado dreams because of that but it's how much you think you were weighing oh couldn't been like a little yeah yeah like 10 or something yeah probably 12 maybe something like that's 70 pounds or something I don't know yeah gone I don't know what kids way but good lord I'm well I'm glad that you didn't fly away man yeah I've probably been okay but you don't know you don't know so dreams like what other in your book what other high high weirdness were you getting into was it just monkey bear no uh I go in a lot with gnomes I've seen gnom.

Well, you've seen a gnome. Yeah, I've seen nons. And you don't lead with that. Damn. No, I hate telling that story. I like, I hate it so much. Why? I've told that story.

Did you get molested by a gnome? No. I've just never, I've told that story. I was in fifth grade when this happened. And it's so interesting. It's one of those stories, like your story with the tornado. Like, you only have so many interesting stories. I've told this story since I was in fifth grade, and it's funny that now, like, my fate is to have to tell this story over and over. And I don't care. It's interesting where it's like, yeah, it was crazy and there's a lot to it. It's your silver robot guy. Can we get it? Yeah, totally. It's your machine, Burke Crusher's machine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, if I get money like Bert has, I'll keep telling the story, you know. You know, um, so,

you all want to hear it of course we want to hear about the no one last time this will be oh my god it'll be i just told this story today too it's crazy i literally just told this story you know hey all right let me dig deep y'all let me dig deep i got you all right cook let him cook all right take a sip of my medicine here then we'll talk about recovery after all right in fifth grade we went on a field trip to a garnet mine so this is in western north carolina our principal was a rock hound so he took the elementary classes on rock-related field trips which looking back it's pretty devious that he was killing two birds with one stone we went on one field trip to

a mineral convention it makes no sense but it was I love that, dude. Oh, dude, you should go to this press medals event going on next Tuesday in Cincinnati. I got to be a principal or we can do a field trip. It's so funny. That's hilarious. Yeah, but we had fun. We had fun.

He was a good principal. So one of the trips was the Garnet Mine. So now own the property was a proper mine, but obviously we didn't have fifth graders in the mine. was just two large hills with dirt-covered hills. So you would just dig in there with little spades and look for garnets. Now, I was in a class, to add to this, my mother was one of the teachers, one of the teachers. So this has been in the family lore for many years. So I was in the other class because you wouldn't want to be in your mom's class.

Of course. And so, but the class I was in was pretty rambunctious, sort of rule-breaking kids, which is not my inclination, but I was in that class. So we said we had to use the bathroom and we went further off into the woods. And we saw a family of little people. And we thought it was this? What grade were you in? I was in fifth grade.

47. Somebody do the math, what, 87, 1987? We'll assume your math is correct. Were you guys already doing drugs in fifth grade? No, we were just, but we were like, we got high. We were like giddy on seeing these little people in the woods. It was like the whole thing for the field trip. We would come back and tell our classmates what we saw and we were just laughing, hysterically laughing it was kind of like a you know tall were they sure they weren't like little little people like midgets well okay i can't just i don't know just throwing that out there you're little kids yeah i don't know i'm just wondering you know how to height yeah yeah well that's what we assumed they were and you know that's what we called them it's not like we got back and we were like oh my god

the mythical gnome fairy creatures we called them the m word because back then midgets yeah back then that is what they were called we call them that now too Lord help us I love that you've got this like politically correct streak I know it's so sweet like what is look y'all I don't mention a slur

there's no because Peter Dinklage is an angry fellow yeah well I mean like I can look at any of the other slurs and go okay I can understand why they're upset about it it's whatever white people were calling you in the 90s They don't like that anymore. You had to change it. Yeah, 100%.

So it's dwarfism, right? That's the right one? There are different types of little people. There are a lot of different types, and they're based on the size of their heads. That's some of it. Like dwarfs have like two floors of head. It's about proportionality. It's about proportionality.

It doesn't have a BBL. Jeez. Some of them do. I know he do. That's why. telling us the story of magic people in the forest and you guys are debating the the cranial size of midgett all right if peter dinklidge here's this we're fun sam trippily is not my fault put it all on me i i need the heat he lives i don't need any heat i need all of it i don't need any

so yes uh the but the proper term now is little people so it makes it makes telling the story difficult, especially on a national, very widely heard show where you don't want to say anything. Oh, are you going on one of those later? Yeah, what do you go on that? That's right. That's right. What are you going on Sean Ryan? What are you doing?

That's right. I'm on Joe Rogan. Okay. Congratulations. Actually, Joe Rogan just texted me while I'm on this show. Oh, you got to go? Oh, you got to go again. Mark calls him again.

I need you on Kurt Show right now. Yeah, that would be great. Yeah, there we go. So, okay, so that's what we called them. So it was a joke amongst our friends and family. Now, when I, my father's rational explanation at the dinner table that night was this. It is a family of M-word people that are. circus performers in the discussion, circus performing human little people who are squatters in the

Western North Carolina woods into discussion. Let's move on from this. Okay. That was the rational explanation. So in the book, one thing I say is I call that this Occam's rabbit hole. So when you get involved in high strangeness research, it's quite tricky because the rational explanation is more weird than, all right, there is a mythical group of little people that is talked about in all cultures, which I can tell you about all cultures across all time. They're even in the historic record. So that's Occam's rabbit hole. And the more things get strange, the more Occam's rabbit hole is occurring.

So I don't think there are no circuses where I'm from. I mean, you know, like circus performers in the woods. Also, I will say this, we were harassing these creatures throughout the day. I mean, it wasn't like, hold on. Were they just trying to like carry water from the stream and like, you were harassing them? You were harassing the M people? No, no, no, no, no. I wasn't.

God, dang. It was. You did say we. I one of our classmates and I'm still in contact with him today he was harassing them he threw a he went down real close and threw a rock at them now wait wait wait wait if you went and looked in the mirror right now would you see that classmate who threw the rock at the

that might be the funniest thing I've ever heard my life did you guys hit did it actually the circus midgets okay wait wait wait wait it sounds really ugly it was more of a toss. It was a playful toss. And I did, I did make that distinction in the book. He playfully tossed it at the family of little people. Now, uh, now I remember what they were doing. They seemed to be doing some sort of farming. They seemed busy at work. There was like birds around them. Like I perceived as like chickens, but who knows if you're little like what? How far away? Were they whistling? Were they whistling? Were they whistling? You're like, hi, ho.

One had a hat with a feathering. That is one thing that's... Hold on. What? Now, they had a hat with a feather in it? A fucking pilgrim or what? Some pimp out there.

Just pimping little people. That's like a Robin Hood thing. Yeah, dude, that's crazy. In the Nome research, there are people who say they see them with hats, little hats with feathers in them. Now, all right. So the reason I assume that because there was also small there was like smaller ones with them. So it wasn't it was like a family. You got the vibe that it was a family.

Now let me, I feel like there's some skepticism here. Let me just. Not absolutely not. Not in this show. We believe it until someone tells it's not true. And people are real. Until one comment in the internet says not true. No, we've totally.

Right, right, right. I feel that I got to get to the punch line here. Okay. All right. So in, in. school at the University of West Georgia where I met my lovely wife. I told her the story. And she said she's from Turkey. She's Turkish. And she said, well, there's stories she had heard in her region. So one of her friends who was in the Black Sea region, she said she saw a

toddler walk through the village at night up into the mountains of the Black Sea region. And we're like, why would a toddler be walking through a Turkish village at night up into the mountain? So there's Occam's rabbit hole. So we started researching. And there is a ton of research about this. And I'm sure you've seen some of it, heard some of it. You have the leprechauns in Ireland. All right.

So we said if we ever go back to where I'm from to this region, we'll go and check it out. So we're driving there. This is like 20 years ago. We're driving there and I called the number. It's in the phone book. This is how long ago it was. And I called the number and I asked the woman if I, hey, can we get on the Garnet Mine property? And she said, no, we don't let them own it anymore.

Let people own it due to insurance reasons. So no more field trips. So I said this may be a weird question, but have you ever seen any little people? on the property and she said now that you mention it yes when my kids were small after a rainstorm we were looking for a place to swim on the on the creek because the creek had risen and we came across little people swimming in the creek and I said what did they look like and she said they looked old with long beards and I said did you say anything to them and she said no we were scared so we got out of there so we have more you know so that is a

confirmation so crazy dude that is so nuts and we'll never get any of that out here the close we'll ever get the cryptids are trans hookers that's the closest we'll ever get in in los angeles that's the closest we'll get to you know we'll never see this cool stuff that's why that's the show i want to do i just want to go find all this off. He's just go look at it. I think you're right, though. I don't think they show up for cameras.

Well, Sam, I do have some ideas for a documentary series. I have some real, I have some hot spots I could hit you with. So, you know, if you're looking to collaborate, I'm trying to get out of, I got ideas, dude. I got ideas. Trying to get out of the psychotherapy business. I can understand that. Yeah, it's very stressful. So this woman said, so when you saw them, did they all look like lawn gnomes to you?

No, but they look like little people. One had a hat with a feather in it, but I was kind of a timid kid. So I was like skittish to go close to them. Here's the thing. It felt, even as a kid, it felt like something was off here. It didn't feel like they were like humans. I mean, I wasn't thinking this at the time. But it was, there was, you were kind of freaked out.

And here's the thing. Here's my point. If this was a family of human little people and a fifth grade class was harassing them all day, you would have the father of the group walk his ass to the teachers and be like, these little fuckers are harassing this. You need to do something about this. And also the woman who reports she saw. people swimming in her creek. I mean, this is the south. Like you would call the police or come back

with a shotgun and say, hey, you can't be on this property. What are you doing? Weird old guys with beards. So I also know somebody who saw them in Hawaii in a very similar sort of story. So I was telling this story because we've established. I tell it a lot. And I told this to somebody. They had seen them in Hawaii. And there's a legend in Hawaii. They're called something, forgive me, I don't know the name, but literally saw them in a creek fishing. And they went back and said to the human Hawaiians, like, hey, this is what we saw. And they said, oh, that's the Manu, Manu, or something.

I forget the name. And if you Google it, Hawaiian little people, it'll come right up. Johnny, since you used the bathroom, you didn't get all the heat here. Can you Google Hawaiian little people? Hawaiian little people? What's it called? Hawaiian? Yeah, just Hawaiian little people.

It should come out. Are you, is this little people like you're afraid to say midget again? Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Is it the Menehune, a race of four people? That's it. That's it. What's it called?

The Menehunehune. Menehune. Can I see it? Yeah, I'm looking at. You got to. Yeah, I got it. Let me just share. Hawaii mini-hune.

M-E-H-U-N-E-H-U-N-E. The mini-hune. It's probably Menehune, probably, something like that. Menehune. Are a mythological race of dwarf people in the Hawaiian tradition who are said to live deep in forests and hidden valleys of the Hawaiian islands far away from human settlements. They are described as superb crafts.

people, craftsmen, is what we would say. They built temples, fish, ponds, roads, canoes, and houses. Some of these structures that, some of these structures that Hawaiian folklore attributed to the Menehune still exist. They are said to have lived in Hawaii before settlers arrived from Polynesia many centuries ago. Their food, Menehune. Their favorite food is bananas. Okay. I thought it'd be because they're Hawaiian spam. They really like to eat spam on there. They also like fish. Well, they all have dog to Bonnie Hunter haircuts. We look up many Hooney built structures. Yeah, let's see if there's any pictures in this. There's a guy right there. They found one. Look, he's hanging out.

It must be something that's kind of like a pop culture thing there, too, it looks like, because they sell little figurines and stuff. It says they appear at night typically to, to let's see. Let's see. Imagine has it that the mena houdna appear only during the night hours to build masterpiece. Boy, someone who has English as a second language wrote this shit. And they fail to complete their work in the length of a night. They will leave it unoccupied. No one but their children and humans connected with them can see the mena hunne. Oh, let's see.

You want to see their structures? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, see if anyone built anything. There's the, I mean, this is a, yeah, there's a big lake, supposedly. They dammed up a big, uh, they, yeah, that lake right there. So that's the legend, yeah, that they did that. Wow. Busy little bees.

The many honey. The busy little bees there. Yeah. Let's see if we get a pronunciation on that, uh, story time up at the minute. Hmm. Storytime. Oh, yeah, this guy looks like he knows, right? Yeah, let's see where he has seven.

Oh, wait, hold on. We have sound from him. Is he muted? Oh, there it is. Many people in modern history think that the Menehune We got it! We got it! We got it!

That was in mythological people that never really did exist. But the truth is quite different. If you knew here, I'm Elijah Kala, McShane. I come from Hawaii and I speak about all things, Hawaii. My man. You see, the Malahuna people have been here long before the Tahisian contact, which took place around 1100 AD. And according to ancient Hawaiian historians, they came to Hawaii from the Marquesas Islands,

as early as 300 to 600 AD, potentially even earlier than that. And what is amazing about the Manahuna people is they were skilled artists. Now, he's saying a different thing there. It was told that they were master stone mason, stone builders, building ha'oes and temples, fish ponds across the Hawaiian islands that still stand erect today. Where? One of the coolest things about their building strategy, they only build at night. I wish they could take that advice in LA.

of the shuffles of the road construction it was in nobody outside of the monohuna looking their eyes on their construction and as they would build they would build with intention they would build in prayer they would build as a community and they will build in silence this picture is not an accurate picture of what a manahuna would look like but standing about three feet tall they were strong

they were sturdy and it was built and they had many names from the manahuna many hune the moo and the mu maitamai Oh, the moomaia, meaning the banana eaters. Because they were experts of the cultivation of Hawaiian banana. And they would eat that for its nutritional value to maintain. I know a few banana eaters down here. This is the photo of their construction work on the island of Kauai in Waimea.

Oh, they built that a wall. This Hawaiian punohu knows plenty stories about. All right. All right, man. That was great. So I want to get into something with you about king killing. Do you know something about that? like could you have jfk behind you the jfk where where he ended up passing away right or something

like right so what are your thoughts on that so okay so um back in october of last year um i got hooked up with uh two authors a part of trine day uh you can have them on too i'm hooking you up with some good guests here, Sam, Paul Fitzgerald and Elizabeth Gould. So they're the ones who spearheaded this. They have a, they, with Trine Day, they were doing a love field roundtable, roundtable. So what their project is, they do a deep dive on the King Kill 33 stuff. I mean, they don't do the Downard stuff. I introduce the Downard stuff. They do a deep dive into, the JFK assassination. So I got hooked up with them.

Chris Milligan pulled me in, and I gave my two cents about it, and I ended up doing two presentations regarding their ceremony. So what they were doing with these roundtable was to, in culmination with the anniversary of when Kennedy was killed, and so he died. Love Field. So in culmination with that, they were doing a ceremony at Love Field to, as I explicated, I believe what they were doing was they were reversing the alchemical spell that was put on the American group mind with the killing of the king ritual. So with that ritual they did in November of 2024, it culminated, it was a way to reverse that spell. So I helped

release the American group mind from the slumber that the killing of the king ritual put over it. So you're welcome is what I'm saying. Thank you. Brave, brave man. Matt, let me have some. do you think the Charlie Kirk assassination was another killing of the king ritual? Oh, the Lord help us, Sam. Now, you know, it's safe to talk about these things if you talk about it historically. So it's interesting. Historically, do you think that it was a killing of the king ritual? So I don't.

I don't. I really don't. And I'm not just saying that because I'm paranoid. I really don't. Now, I have thoughts about that event, but I'm going to stop short on, you know, it was that. Now, I don't know. Look, hell, what do I know? But that's my opinion.

And also, so you see some of this in this realm. There was a, there was a movie that had something similar. What was that? I'm sure y'all covered that. The movie that you're talking. Was that movie? I can't believe you're not all over this, Sam. I love every opportunity to tell us about snake eyes.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, snake eyes. You know, I'm the reason why that is everywhere. I've heard that. Yeah, you've heard it a bunch times you'll hear it a thousand more times. I'm the one who brought up snake eyes when it came to Charlie Kirk. I'm the guy that started that. Nice. We're to the source.

Yeah. I don't think. Okay, so this goes back to what I was saying with the synchronicity principle. I think that is a byproduct of. of the Synchronicity Principle, I don't think, I don't think there is a nefarious group that is so sophisticated. They do a fucking cheesy B movie, no offense to the writers of that wonderful film. You better not. Who, you know, who then, you know, this many years later, let's assassinate.

I don't think so. So I don't think that was that play. And I must say, I wonder would the James Shelby Downard and my. Michael Hoffman in King Kill 33. I wonder if some of this, what they're picking up on is a part of a larger sort of reality, meaning the people who killed Kennedy were like, all right, here's what we're going to do. We're going to put a spell over the American group mind and we're going to psychically destroy the potential of America. I don't know if it's that played out on our world. realm of existence maybe you know maybe the uh the skin walkers and the uh and the and the in the bad bigfoot are doing this or something or the or the reptilians not that i believe in reptilians um you know can you wink if you do believe in reptilians it would be weird to believe in psychic monkey bears but not believe in reptilians that'd be

I can't go there okay now you're in a crazy town right but it is like that you know in in high strangeness it's like there's always in paranormal and all this realm there's always and I talk about this in my book you know it's like I believe in UFOs but Bigfoot is not psychic I mean, I'm not crazy. That's it on everything, dude. It's so crazy. Like, I'm not going to say names, but there's some conspiracy theorists that are just like, I know the most about this.

And then they won't go to other consumers. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not possible. It's like a dogma to conspiracy. It's very weird to me. It's very weird to me. Well, I do talk about that phenomena in the book. And I think that's where my psychology background comes in. The technical term would be a boggle threshold is, so everybody has a boggle threshold where it's like, all right, we're going to believe this, but damn, I'm not going to believe Bigfoot or psychic, or I'm not going to believe in alchemical ritual killings to mask, mind control, the group mind.

I mean, everybody has a bridge, you know, they can't go too far. Hold on. So you don't necessarily believe in mass psychic trauma? This is my first time on the show, Sam. I mean, can we not just like harm the pain, bro? It's the best way to get voted, invited back is to go hard in the pain. Harder you go, the sooner you come back. He wanted to do that.

All right. Well, ask the question again, God damn. Okay. Do you believe that they might use mass psychic trauma? to manipulate the masses? Probably. Yeah. Okay.

There you go. You're in. Book them again. Book them again. You know, 9-11 was obviously that. You know, it's this kind of thing where it's like you have to, it's the old, you know, lost boys, vampire has to get invited in mentally and spiritually manipulate them. Once they're in high anxiety, high fare, they're more open-minded to giving a

up there there what is that this is uh michael hoffman's book secret side secret societies and psychological warfare oh i like that these are a few of my favorite things like that's a book it's called what secret societies and mass psychological warfare so okay he he lays out these um he lays this out so highly recommend michael hoffman's uh books so well you know listen we we can say, um, the effect of these events, let's say it's all, I feel like my wife is going to be upset at me. She's like, well, she won't. She's so proud of you. She's not going to listen to it. She's going to be so proud. Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just tell you're on it. Just tell her, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, um, tell me you on a mock show. That way she definitely won't

listen. Yeah, right, right. So it has the effect, even if, um, we don't have to work. about who, who did what, these events have a psychological effect on the group mind. I mean, look with Charlie Kirk. I mean, look what that did. That was quite something. We don't, in a certain level, we don't have to worry about who did it and why. The effects are the same. I agree. It's totally the same. It terrorizes the group mind. It, these events. So, so why we, for those who might, because we've gotten a bunch of new listeners lately and we love them, welcome. And some may not be familiar with the killing of the king ritual. Can you tell us what that is?

Okay, so this, the King Kill 33 was an essay written by James Shelby Downard. And it was the, it was a look at the, what he called the, masionic symbolism of the JFK assassination. Oh, really? Yeah. So he claims that this this ritual, the King Kill 33, he called it, was a way to, won't worry about my notes. I'll speak off the top of my head here.

So it was a way to infect the psychic group mind of the, of the, of, the American people, sort of imbue it with a sense of hopelessness and sort of kill any promise of higher sort of aspirations. Okay, so the whole thing is like a psychological warfare to kind of take out the king, which is a symbolist, symbolism of the power structure, the top of, the top of, the power structure and if you take them out kind of sends a message to everybody that we could take out anybody we want right so there um you got to have uh paul fitzgerald and elizabeth gouldon like so i'm kind of a johnny come lately to their project so i don't want to say anything that

is exactly incorrect so they have done a deep dive and it involves interestingly enough their project in this regard involves ancestors of, you know, like we were talking about earlier, it involves John D. It gets really wild of their deep dive into this. But so James Shelby Downard was the first to look at the JFK assassination from this very high strangeness, really skizzed-out sort of perspective and I can't recommend James Shelby Downard enough He actually can't buy the book anywhere I'm trying to find the book

You can't buy it anywhere So King Kill 33 is an essay It's not a full-length book So you can It is in the lost writings of James Shelby Downard It came out not too long ago stalking

stalking the great poor Do you believe there are people we've had them on the show that believe JFK it was all theater JFK wanted to get out they knew that a bunch of people wanted to take them out that was a squib shot bang what do you think see I I listen I don't know you know but I don't I have not I'll be honest I've not gone down that rabbit hole and I feel bad that you know I pride myself on any rabbit hole that is brought up that I'll be stumped on.

So I guess it makes sense that I would be stumped on 10 full hat, but I got nothing on that. I've just heard a little bit about it. But I do have this, though, in my work with the Love Field Ceremony, it did come out. There is a picture from Dallas in that time period that Chris Milligan put me on to. I forget one of the famous JFK researchers. gave it to him, there's a picture from that, from Dealey Plaza at that time, and there's

a UFO in the picture. We've had the dark journalist on. He says that NASA was a part of the assassination. Okay, well, they go see, I didn't know that. So it's not my, this is not my, like, hardcore area of interest. I'm like a generalist. I know a little bit about as many paranormal sort of subjects as I can. Now, do you get, now, are you afraid to go deep? No, no, no, no. I mean, yes.

I mean, I'm afraid of everything. I mean, I'm an anxious person. But, no, it's just a time factor. So I point that out in the book that as a high strangeness researcher, where I believe all paranormal phenomena are interconnected. So I'm into UFOs as much as I'm into psychic bigfoot and JFK. So it's just a matter of time. I literally don't have.

Now, when this propels me to the next level of fame and I have thousands of Patreon subscribers, you probably won't be able to leave your house anymore after this episode. No, it's not when I have money where I can quit my day job and I can research this at all times. I just don't have the time to go down. No, I get it. you're into the high strangeness you're into all these different kind of like i don't know if you

want to say alternative reality views um if you had to describe the realm the world that we live in what is your belief in where we live in where what do we live in where do we live in what is it well i i think what the cryptids stuff shows i think we're talking about other dimensions and that's the view i look at with the cryptids talk about gnomes talk about bigfoot uh so this is where the fay and the fairy realm comes in i do think there's other dimensions that us as humans are sort of now becoming more aware of i think we live in a I think the universe is, there's life, other life forms is the norm, not the exception. So I think we live in a world where there's a lot of different realities and dimensions that we're only now sort of contending with.

But, you know, in ancient times, they were contending with it as well. Maybe we're rediscovering it, sort of the Terrence McKenna archaic revival sort of vibe. Did that answer the question? It did. And Matt Vaughn, you crushed it, you came on, you dropped the hammer of God. We were in a tight spot, and you came on, and you crushed it, and we loved it. And you have an open door to come back. Anytime.

Yes. As long as we're not talking about midgets, you're back to it. Yeah, if you're still talk to us after the fame goes your head, we'd love to have you back on the show. I would love to come back. Hell yeah. Matt, one more time. Tell them where they can find you. Mycosmictrigger.com.

The name of the book is My Cosmic Trigger. High Strangeness in theory and practice. You can follow me on my substack Salas of the wake. Substack.com. If you're looking for a very weird psychotherapist who's more crazy than you, hit me up. I am taking clients. So, yeah, thank you very much. What kind of people should hit you up?

Okay. I, one of the things I talk about in the book, when people get involved into these subjects, they go down, they go off the deep end. I've been there myself. I've come back to tell. You talk to them all ledges. Yes, yes, yes. So I believe you can take all of this information and make your life better for it, not destroy your life. So I can help you do that, help you integrate it, help you make sense of it for a very reasonable fee. I like that a lot. Thank you, Matt, for coming on. Let's break down the episode. All right.

What did you think of the incredible Matt Vaughn? Dude. I think we scared him a little bit. I don't think we scared him. I think he crushed it. He's like that guy for the... Oh, you're talking about the M word? Yeah, about the M word. I've never seen any of like cringe at midget before. He's like that guy for the

Blue Jays that came in off the bench to pinch it, you know, and just not... No, no, no, dude, shut up. Okay? Shut up. That's what he's like. He killed it. No, you're scumbed. get out of the park. You're a scumb bag.

Game one, you know? Scum. Did you see that game? No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't watch it. The Blue Jays, the guy can't. He came in off the bench, right?

And then he hits a grand slam home run. Johnny, cut all that out. He won the game for them. Okay. That's weird that you didn't see that. You're a big Dodgers fan. I would have thought you would have seen game one of the World Series. He also didn't see yesterday's game.

Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty typical of Dodgers fans after that. You're really gross. They love the Dodgers when they're good. You're fucking gross. Boy, were they scarce. Will Klein, that's who we're talking about.

We only talk about Will Klein here. The guy was on the bench, okay? Was he really on the couch? No, he was on the couch three weeks ago. He'd been cut by everybody. Klein, huh? Will Klein. Say his name with respect.

He's a legend. He's scumbagg. Where's his people from? I want to Klein. Okay. Why get him? I think there's a lot of other players are. I don't know. They got him and they needed somebody to step in and pitch.

He did the first thing. great. They're like, let's ride you. I love it. They spend like a half a billion dollars on players. They don't have a fucking pitcher except for a guy who comes in off the couch. That's what I was that? That's what I was out? Like, why here? We're spending a GDP of a Caribbean nation on baseball players. They just let you know that so much of it is like right place, right time, opportunity. That's it. Do you, are you in the right place, the right time and given the opportunity? Or like, think about, I mean, we're getting into sports now, but think about Joe. Joe Flacco. Nobody wanted the guy

and he just goes into the Bengals now and it's been tearing ass for the past three weeks. Yeah, well, when they're already ass, it's not that hard to tear it. No, dude, what do you mean? He's played really well. They won. Well, you know who would love this sports talk? Matt Vaughn. You know, he would love this sports talk? You know why? Because we're not saying midget. That's why he would love it. I thought it was great. I thought it was a great show.

But real quick, go to samtripple.com. I'm going to be in New Orleans for Skang Fest. And then I'm going to be in Vegas. Grab your tickets now. Johnny just, as you saw on the last show, if you're kind enough to stay the whole time, he didn't buy tickets now. It's even more. Buy your tickets now.

If you're coming, and I hope you do, it's going to be phenomenal. Hey, Johnny, again, where did you get your hotel at? I'm at Virgin. Oh, okay, all for sure. Oh, we're all staying at Virgin. Yeah, we're all staying at Virgin. Yeah, we're all staying at Virgin. You're gross, dude.

So, Minneapolis. Minneapolis next. Oh, yeah. Comedy Chaos is tonight. So tonight. No, comedy chaos is next week. On the 11th, come to it. It's going to be another murder, murder lineup. Murder, murder. And then finally, Morris Plains for New Year's Eve at the dojo of comedy. Who the hell is Morris? Do you guys, we know anything? I don't know, but he's kind of planes. You know what I'm saying? He sounded like a planes dude. Did you hear what he said about that band you watch, Morrissey or whatever? Morrissey, yeah. Mexicans love him, I guess. Oh, Mexicans love Horsey.

Yeah, yeah, famously, yeah. Mexicans are just darker versions of white people. Colonel Lewis Morris, who was a prominent landowner and the royal governor of the province of New Jersey at the time. So there you go. Nice. Where's old Jersey, Johnny? Old Jersey is Jersey in England, I reckon. Oh, is it?

Yeah, like New York is York in England. It's like, it's the same new Amsterdam. See if there's a Jersey, New England. There is a Jersey in England. Oh, there is? Jersey England. I wonder if they're like Italians, like, bloody fucking, eh? They're like the, the, the, the, fucking Jersey Shore people.

Yeah, Jersey's in England. Have you ever seen, like, Americanized British people? They look so funny because they're like caricatures of Americans. I'm sorry, it's an island in the English Channel, rather. It sounds like one of those places where they were probably Barian kids or something by Johnny If you go to samtribby.com I'm putting premium content everywhere All the top

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Hit the like by and subscribe. Go check out my podcast, please. X. She marks a spot. yeah uh check out broken simulation it's a podcast it's out right now sam tripley's on that podcast and i am your co-host he crushes it uh weekly oh the gag order are you following the gag order we never followed the gag order we're gagless we don't have a gag reflex no brother we just is that why kentis isn't following oh interesting maybe kansas doesn't have a gag

reflection oh that'd be true oh that'd be so great it's not like you've triggered too many gag grief like to say that's me no i mean you're totally why why am i at that fact i did have a chick throw up on my dick once nice good job and guess what she did kept going okay good for her that's a yeah that's a chap that's a champion she's at a military base she's like i've seen i've seen crazy yeah she's like you weren't in afghanistan were you abroad i'm not going to tell you where it was because i don't want to get her in trouble was it at fort was it at uh fort brag was that no it was not psychological operation johnny Okay. I thought Matt Vaughn crushed it.

Yes. I love talking cryptids. We haven't talked cryptids a lot lately. Yeah, we got to do that more, dude. We got to. Are we going to have that girl on? What's her name? Yeah. You didn't give us her name. What girl?

The monkey bear lady. Monkey bear lady. Dude, we got to get the monkey bear lady on. I think we should go, Mark, get the monkey bear lady. Conspiracy smoke show or what? Monkey bear lady doesn't give that much. We don't judge women by the looks here, okay? Because there's some women who aren't easy on the eyes have some really good research.

So we don't judge. We're not sexist here. Come as you are, as you were, as we want you to be, okay? If you got to pick what state this metal field's at. What metal field? Oh, he already said it. Georgia. No, he wouldn't say it, but it's pretty much Georgia.

This guy. I don't know. He's got no clue how to fucking look between lines. A monkey bear. Yeah, to read between the lines, you have to first be able to read. That's a true story. Thank you, Johnny. Thank you for having my back with that.

I appreciate you. Okay. I was very nice of you. Johnny has your back here, a retard. We're all fucking stupid here. Yeah, we really are. We are all dumb. We're really, if you combine all of us, you would have a pretty bad ass person.

But individually, we just all fuck. We have to form Voltron just to be functional. We're Captain Planet. Yeah. So we got that. We had monkey, we had, what, we had monkey bears. We had the little midgets in the forest. The midgets in the forest.

The gnomes? He called them gnomes. Nomes, they are gnomes, but we call them forest midgets. A little feather on the hat. I wanted to play the bit about what David Tell's bit about what midgets like to be called. He would have melted. Floor Edwards. dude that guy

he wouldn't have had that that's one of the funny that's called what they want to be called for N words that's perfect like that's perfect yeah he's the best he's so funny man

I think that's like you have to get out into rural uh rural uh... Georgia sounds like you're in slow motion

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We've got a new YouTube channel. Let's make it work. Anything, Johnny, we already did your promo. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Guys, enjoy the highlights. Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. There was one other funny Tucker and Nick thing.

And this is very short. I'll just play this really quick because it's kind of, it's them talking. about women and marriage, which is just, I mean, he goes full neck quintess here. Personally, I find women very frustrating. Ian Rand, I agree with her about this. She said that the wife's role is like hero worship. The guy is the hero. The guy is supposed to be the entrepreneur, the conqueror, whatever.

And the woman is really supposed to support the man's goals and be in his world. And I've felt that way. And that's the last thing successful men need is more power worship. You get that at work. You don't want that at home. You become an unbearable asshole. And then you fall prey to what destroys every successful man, which is hubris. Like you must take yourself for God.

You need someone who's not interested in what you do at all, only interested in you. And that's how you become balanced and wise. What do you think about that? There's something to it. I mean, you know, one guy's saying he wants a submissive wife and the other guy saying he kind of wants an equal. A check, right? One of them wants a check and one of them wants a chick. You know, it's like a different.

A check? What do you mean? check like a check and a balance you know checks and balances in the government like you want to check you i think the problem with society is that we've demonized feminist roles female roles yes of course right the feminine role itself has been demonized it's been demonized they've convinced women that what guys want is what they want and they've given guys everything they want and it's been disastrous and it's just like you can't convince these girls anything else because when you're a hot chick, the world loves you.

They'll give you whatever you want. And when you start to find out that's not true, it's almost too late. Yeah. Right? And now you're competing with young girls at their peak. And the reason guys peak later is because what value we bring is career, success, money, and, you know, stability. That's what we're supposed to have, dude.

And that's my humble opinion. I mean, women are great. Like, like, like, you know, this notion that having a kid is somehow,

like, degrading is like so crazy to me. And that's why it goes back to when women hate children. It's like, Des goes against all of your, your, your, your internal wiring.

You're supposed to love kids the most. Yeah, it's sour great. But Johnny, you live. You live in L.A. And you're with a gorgeous fake girlfriend. She's a beautiful person.

Let's say you have kids, right? And which I hope you do. You're a great person. And you're going to raise them in L.A. right now. Let's just say you stay in L.A. Then you're going to bring your kids home to North Carolina. And you're going to be with all their family.

And you're going to see the value of raising a child in a village. It's much different. Yeah. Yeah. The mom, the grandmas, the aunts, the cousins. all doddle doodle over the children and you can go out and take care of business because that's what's supposed to be you're right you're right no that's the way it was i mean i was raised just as much by my aunts and grandparents as i was by my parents because you just get dropped off at a house for

you know a weekend or something while your parents are out there working so no i totally you know i mean they're trying to do that some families are in l.a now with like education they're pulling their kids out of schools it's not legal but they're having these things i'm sure you've heard about a pods where families get together and hire a licensed teacher and they just come to one of the parents' houses and they get taught inside of a home.

It's a group of kids and parents all paying for it. You know what I mean? Because the public schools are such shit. But it's not technically legal. Well, I think you should be able to raise your kid out if you want to. It's Joseph. Who's that? Joseph Gerv was the Nazi propaganda

minister. It's not a birthday today. Happy birthday, Joseph. Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you, buddy. Yosef Gerbils. Happy birthday to you. One of the most evil men on the planet in history. In history, but happy birthday to you.

So this is insanity. You know, remember we heard about the line that the Saudis wanted to build that city. That's nobody has that relief. And they started construction on there. There's footage of the construction underway. They've announced. now that for the World Cup that they're going to be hosting insanely, they want to build, have you seen this,

a stadium on top of a building and they're really, I mean, they're aiming to have this done for the World Cup. Look at this monstrosity. They want to build here. They haven't built that yet. No, no, they're going to, though. How do you get out of that if there's a fire, dude?

I don't know why that's cool. No, it's not cool. Have you ever been? I feel like, I'm like, I'm never going up. there that seems like a trap have you ever been like a football game or a basketball and look at that dude look at that you can helicopter up there oh yeah the rich people can't have you ever been to a football or basketball game and thought hmm this would be better if it was on top of a building i mean the only thing close to that was the needle in seattle

the space needle yeah well yeah but that's i mean it's no different than the thing in Vegas too right it's like what is that the stratosphere or whatever yeah yeah i don't want watching a football game up there that's too many people it's ridiculous it's so dumb i mean what do you do if there's a real disaster like some shit goes down yeah what do you're crazy everyone gets a parachute yeah yeah exactly what they gave you the whole the same thing they do i'm playing in case of an evacuation grab the parachute under your seat and just jump and hope and pray you only get that though if you buy the VIP seats you gotta get VIP seats you got to call me

flappy i'm gonna tell you guys i'm gonna get shredded you will Watch. I'm going to get so fucking shredded. You fucking watch. I hope you do. I want to, too. So this is, this was on Club Random. Apple and Toil and someone called that. This is in that documentary, but I'll talk to you about why it's funny after. This is Charlie Sheen on Club Random talking about, again, his father's having his skin or trying to. He didn't successfully this time.

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