Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #949: Beware Of The Red Shoes With Shannon Rowan

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

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Tinfoil hat. Oh, what the fuck are you guys people talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to tinfoil half. We go deep, home, boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.

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I'm very excited to have her on. Please welcome to the show. Shannon Rowan. How are you, Shannon? Hi, Sam. Thanks for having me on. I'm excited to be on today. Well, we're very blessed. You are here. For our listeners who may not be familiar with you, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you? Yeah. So firstly, it's one-stop shopping for me.

It's wwwww-w-Refugee.com. So Wi-Fi-hypen refugee.com. So, yeah, I was injured by our lovely smart technology, so-called smart. Gosh, late 11, 12 years ago now. and yeah to the point where I had to give up all this tech way back then already. Smart tech in particular, wireless radiation in particular as well. So I just had like really extreme reactions, felt like all of a sudden. And it really was when the 4G rolled out.

I was living in Washington, D.C. Sort of where I'm from. I've lived a lot of other places. But my home base was there. And I used to be a photojournalist. So I was like an early adapter. of technology and cell phones because of photojournalism. And so maybe that's why I don't know, but the 4G rollout smart meters installed on my

home without my knowledge. I guess they sent me some small print thing probably in the mail I ignored. Didn't know anything about smart meters or what they could do or any of that. And yeah, it was pretty devastating and really like just totally changed my life. Ultimately for the better, I think. but it led me into a lot of the topics I research and read about today. So when you say it did great harm to you, what kind of harm are we talking about? Yeah, primarily headaches, but migraines, like severe migraines I've never had before.

Also bodily aches and pains, but they were like shooting electrical kind of sensations, like shocking me is how it felt in my, and it would like persist after I would hold my smartphone. And I started linking it to it pretty quickly because it would seem pretty obvious that it was phone, you know. And then I could feel like somebody else's phone on. I could feel before their text came in, like right before it would make the ping, I would feel it through my body. It was crazy. I had this. It was like, I was like some kind of freak, you know, like fun at parties because it would be like, watch this.

Look what Shannon can do. Yeah, but not really fun for me, ultimately. Do you think you're an empath? Is that what it is? Is it some psychic stuff? Or is it just feel? Or what do you think it is? Well, I think I am pretty empathetic kind of person. And I have had some kind of psychic things going on with me. So possibly there's some level of that. But I've met a lot of different people that have been affected. And I can't say we're all alike. And it's really in terms of those scientific. literature I've looked into this a lot because I've been trying to prove to people, you know, the people who need the science to prove anything. And it still doesn't matter when I tell them because I'm not a scientist. So, you know, and even if I were, they would find some other reason not to listen if they don't want to hear it, you know. But it looks like there's an inflammation response in the brain that then cascades into the body.

And there's like neurological damage that happens that causes this kind of hypersensitivity as it's known. It is very interesting. I believe there's a city in North Carolina, John. Johnny, that is like completely anti-W-Fi, anti, all that stuff. You're not allowed to have any of that. You're thinking of a Green Bank, West Virginia. Oh, West Virginia. Because it's the national radio quiet zone.

However, it's not that radio quiet anymore. It's because of their listening telescope, you know, listening to space that they were, like, prohibited all radio frequencies. But they've been laxing, you know, getting more lax about it just because of the demand. And really telecoms have just moved in there, too. It's not as good at the use to me. And electrosensitive weren't really welcome either. You know, the people living there thought they were also freaks coming to, you know, find refuge there.

But the press like to kind of make it look like there's a place for these freaks, so don't worry about it. A place for freaks. Yeah. I would love, you know, if I wouldn't mind like a leper colony situation, if it were like a nice tropical island, they want to go send me there and have no Wi-Fi. I would, hey, you know, sign me up. Treat me like a leopard. That would be awesome.

But unfortunately, there isn't really a place for us. And I, we have to, I've had to move several times. And I live off-grid now because we had moved to errors. Luckily, I have a partner who moved with me. Also named Sam, by the way. Yay. Sam's are killing it. Sam's are awesome.

Yeah, we are. Thank you, guys. Thank you. I appreciate that. I, you know, it's so funny. It's like, we know, know there's warnings that something's not good. Does anyone else get phantom rings in their legs? Do you ever just have a moment where you're like, oh, my phone's ringing and you're like,

oh, absolutely. There's no phone there. And you're like, what is that? What, that can't be healthy for you? My question is, if you're, if you have your limb amputated from gaming, gamer thrombosis from gaming too much, this has happened. Why? And then do you get a phantom ringing? Do you get the phantom vibration on your phantom leg with a phantom leg that would be the craziest thing ever you get a phantom ring in your phantom leg you don't have a leg or a phone you're like what is who's trying to call me and why they hate me it's like dude that is crazy so so you you start experiencing these things and what kind of research did you get into to discover that maybe this is what the issue is even though you had a feel, and like Johnny doesn't believe I'm psychic.

I know I'm psychic. And I do get these kind of hunches that like, I think it's this. And then over time, I'm proven right. And Johnny ignores it. But, you know, it's just the truth is that I'm very psychic. But what made you start to go? I think this could, this could be it. Was it that that was the new variant that was introduced to your life?

Or what was it? Well, it was really just like holding my phone. and saying, oh, this hurts now, like touching a hot stove. That's pretty simple. Yeah. It's really simple. It wasn't that hard to figure out. If you asked me that, I'm like, it wasn't hard.

It was like, yeah, obvious. Yeah. You said it was 4G the one that affected you, right? The one that you felt it. Did 3G do anything? Did you get little migraines or if you got too close to the tower or just 4G was the one? No, 4G, but actually now you asked that, the phone always bothered me in terms of like heating effects on my head.

I feel the kind of heating sensation. And I know other people who feel that too, but a little, if I had known that that actually means there's already been damage, I may have stopped and that could have, you know, stopped the, like, further damage. So that was a sign of injury. And I just wasn't aware of that. I just thought, oh, this is kind of uncomfortable. So I usually use the speaker or, like, you know, hands free.

And yet I still ended up with, like, further damage. So it used to be called microwave sickness or microwave sickness or microbe. wave syndrome in the like 40s, 50s with the first radar operators would get these same kind of symptoms because there's a whole range of symptoms that a lot of it's like flu-like symptoms too. Yes. Yeah. But tinnitus is a big one that you're ringing, which I've never gotten rid of completely. It's definitely better when I'm away from the exposures, but it feels like permanent damage

in one ear the year I used most with the phone, interestingly. But yeah, like people, a lot of people are having symptoms. like insomnia. I had a lot of other symptoms I didn't link to it. So like the direct pain I linked to it. But then, you know, the insomnia that I'd had for a couple of years, I didn't know it was linked to that, the smart, probably smart meters or something. But, you know, there were other like joint pains and things that all cleared up once I got away from the exposures. And I've heard other people say, like they had chronic, like anxiety and that cleared up when they got away. And that wasn't something they had originally attributed to these exposures. So very interesting because during the

break, Johnny had brought up that he sleeps like a baby on a plane. And I was talking about how I used to be able to do that. And for some reason, I can't do it now. And it's really messing up my schedule. Like, I'll go on the road and I can't sleep because I'm either flying really late or really early. And it just messes up my week. And I used to be able to sleep all time for some reason I can't anymore. And it's really starting. And then then XG over here brought up, you know why they, they think that. And I go, why? He goes, well, because you have televisions on you. And then I was like, well, the television is in front of me. And he goes, no, the television behind you is right on your head. It's crazy. And it's Wi-Fi. That television's Wi-Fi because it's

getting it from the front or something like that. So you're just cooking. And you always mention it because you go in there. It's so funny because he goes in there and talks shit because I have my air pods on. And I'm like, it doesn't matter if you go in. Yeah, but you're now double cooking. I know double cooking. Can you double cook?

Yeah, you are double cooking. And those earbuds or whatever are like there's worse than cell phones. Like you can measure it with the EMF meters. I suggest to everybody to get a meter. It'll totally open your eyes to what's going on around you. And it does help you protect yourself because at least you can get away from like the worst exposures and find things like, yeah, there's a freaking screen right behind my head. You know, some people that these exposures can actually make them sort of sleep in a kind of comatose way. I don't think it's like restorative sleep.

Yeah, I agree. They like knocks you out. And that was happening to me driving. I used to think like driving would lull me into sleep and it was dangerous. I'd have to pull over. And I used to talk on my cell phone in the car. Like a lot of people along drive. Yeah, I'd talk to my cell phone.

but I would get so sleepy. And now I realize it was like the MFs on the highway because actually just when you're traveling at speed, it's, this is so crazy. So the tires in the cars used to be fiberglass shavings like as the tensile to add that tensile strength. And now it's metal. And that means that when you go like over 60, it creates this electromagnetic field in your car that's like really powerful that you wouldn't have had otherwise.

And I think that. And I can still feel that I get really sleepy if it, if I start, if it goes, I'm on the highway. And then you have infrasound on the highway as well, which can also, you know, do weird things. Just bombarded everywhere. Yeah. Just bombarded. So when I, sometimes I have to do work. So I bring my phone to my bed and I'm doing work and I'm just too lazy to get up and put in another room because I don't want it in the room.

Dana always has her phone in the room because in case her mom has an emergency. so it's always there. It drives me crazy, but it's part of the gig. But sometimes I'll just set my phone on the desk next to the bed and hand to God, every time I wake up in the morning, I am dehydrated. I am so dehydrated. It's like, and it's always when the phone's right there. Whenever the phone's not there, I don't do it.

When the phones, I wake up, I'm like, oh, my God, I need water and I look over. There's the phone. every, every single time. Yeah, I believe it. I mean, the thing is, okay, and I think it's called a cell phone for many reasons, but one is that, you know, it affects us on a cellular level because like our cells communicate via electrical signaling and this definitely disrupts that. It's so much, it's a lot, it's just about overpowering biological signaling, really.

And so there's a lot of different effects that can happen that are not, none of them good. So there's literally mountains of proof. There's like over 50,000 studies now. You can find just on one website actually called EMF portal.org, EMF hyphen, I think portal.org. But on all kinds, so you can like search different kinds of biological effects, but shows all these studies. And they've been compiled mostly by our military, you know, for weapons,

not because they just want to help us, probably. But, yeah, military, it was. as soon as we discovered electricity and then radio frequencies, it was all, military is all over it, how they can use it as a weapon. There was this whole, you know, psychotronic weapons research during the Cold War and we collaborated with the Soviet Union on that, you know, when we were supposedly enemies. So, yeah, it goes way back. And so I get into the mind control aspect in my books as well because there's physical effects. So all these effects were studied like physical, psychological, emotional responses, you know, with these exposures.

And anyway, by the way, don't try not to sleep with your phone in your room. See, as you know, it's not good. And the thing is, people have this idea that they need them with them all the time because of that emergency that might happen. But like, are you the emergency services? Should you be? I mean, everybody's so stressed out simply from having this intrusion in their lives and having this feeling of like being, you know, like an ER worker. And I invite people to just remember that they're not those things.

And could they really help people in an emergency? And how about having those people call emergency services? Yeah, her mom is like 98 years old. So she's constantly fearing that something bad might happen that she might have to make calls for. So I get that. So when you bring up the history of EMFs and all that stuff, there's a lot of discussion about the introduction of new tech. technologies that kind of correspond with a plague, right?

Like suddenly now, you know, there's electrical lines everywhere. Then all of a sudden the black plague happens because our bodies are energy fields. You know, so now you're introducing a new energy to it. What effects does that have on our bodies? Yeah. On all biology, actually, what's really frightening is the ecological impacts because of, you know, disrupting even soil microorganisms. to all this if we're affected, the smaller things are really affected. And there's even patents for

microwaves and millimeter waves used as like insecticides, right, to kill insects intentionally. I mean, we all are familiar with like bug zappers. We see that happening. But this can happen. You can use microwaves this way as well. And microwaves are what make our wireless technologies operate. So it's really about like power levels. But again, like what, you know, what might not kill you. immediately or harm you immediately is going to harm something smaller. But then there's that whole web of life and food chain, you know, getting disrupted. So the effects are really far reaching. And there's been a lot of studies on like birds and bees and migration and, you know, bee colony collapse and all those kind of things. And even just like the health of trees and tree bark and

sap in the trees. And, you know, a lot of the plants are reacting in a defensive way. And that's making them release more volatile organic compounds, which apparently is helping, like creating this spontaneous combustion situations and creating forest fires. So there's that problem. Yeah, so sorry, you were saying, yeah, the plague. I want to look into that. But so you're saying that the effects of EMF are affecting plants and trees to the point that they might spontaneously combust?

Yeah, well, you have a certain set of conditions, but it's facilitating that because of the VOCs, the volatile organic compounds that they're releasing in response as a stress response to the EMF. So there's whole studies, research papers showing, or scientific papers showing how tracking how, like, a lot of these wild fires are breaking out near, like, cell towers.

because around where it's like stronger fields, you're having more of this reaction with the plants. And so there's like, there'll be a period of like, of course, heat building and where there's no wind. And then while there's no wind, these VOCs build. And then once that changes, like that can just cause the combustion. I'm just relaying what I've read about. So I haven't done that, you know, research personally. Well, a great example of what you're talking about right now.

is the situation with these data centers. These giant data centers are being built and they're starting to realize that there's a sudden spiking cancer. Yeah. Like if you own a, you know, because like I'm always looking at like property in Texas, like if I finally get a chance to move where I could move to. And what you have to do is you have to also look into whether this county or this city is working. is working on a data center. Yeah, that's a huge... Sorry.

I was just going to say like, every city has like a Walmart. You know how every Vixie has a Walmart? Every city is going to have a data center eventually? A day... Like, they're just... I mean, the talk now is about them. It's the ultimate form of offshoring.

They're talking about putting them in space. That was like... I think it was soon as high last week was talking about. I'd rather them be in space... They'll be on the moon. ...than be like across the street from an elementary school. Yeah, they're talking about putting them on the moon eventually. Well, they're already on the ocean floor.

They're already on the ocean floor. Data centers are on the ocean floor. Cooling efficiency, right? Yeah, cooling, right? This is Bill Gates is behind some of those. That's never good. I mean, great. You know, you can't, like, they're huge, too.

You can't just go and throw, like, you know, how many automobiles I said it was their size of, but you can't just dump those in the ocean, but you could dump this data center that's like, you know, Well, heat, yeah, it's helping cool them, but then that's heating the waters and polluting the waters around them, but also with forever chemicals. And then there's, of course, the cabling and then the EMF from that and all these very EMF sensitive creatures in the ocean. Like sharks are very EMF sensitive. Of course, things like electric eels, but even like sea lions and seals.

And there's like there's just so many. And, you know, it's just kind of similar to how sonar, you know, disrupts whales and other. So like this ocean is like the last wild frontier and it's totally being developed also with offshore wind schemes. And I get into that in my last book as well. And I'll be writing a whole book about like this, you know, green energy scam. Yeah, that is a giant scam. And like when I hear it's so funny, I have a joke where I'm talking about like, you know, things that are big today. We had them when I was young.

We just had different names for them. You know. And one of them is like when, you know, you know, You know, people talk about climate change, forest fires. We had that, but we called that arson back in the day. You know, that's what we call those fires, arson. And it's just super interesting right now that this climate change stuff is really, it seems to be dying. I think people are starting to wake up to it, but it just seems like rich kids love it because there's no action.

goal line, you can just cry about it forever and you can just feel like you're doing something for humanity, but you never actually get anything done. It's just a great way to wake up with when you have everything you want in your life, it's a really great way to have purpose is to want to save the planet from something that doesn't exist. Well, ultimate virtual signaling, right? Your EV, you're driving around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like the girl. Yeah, your charger in your garage. I got my own charger at home. Yeah, I care so much. I got my own charger. Or it's like all these climate activists flying to all these climate conferences in private jets.

But Greta took her multi-million dollar yacht, like full of like barrels of diesel. We bought the carbon offsets for that, okay? Just so you know. And like, you know, obviously I have made. major problems with a lot of the stuff that Trump's doing, a lot of it. But occasionally he'll get something somewhat right. And when he got the United States out of the Paris Climate Accord, like that was a brilliant move to do because that was really about destroying the U.S. economy. Because what the whole thing was is like they're going to set a level, okay? This is the level of how much you can put out. Anytime you go over that, you weren't going to get punished

what they would force you to do is go buy climate credits from the club of Rome. You're going to have to go buy more climate credits so you can put out more. So China's so bad. I'm not saying the U.S. is a bad. China's so bad with what they put into our environment

that they actually had to raise the number for China just to convince them to join. So at the end of the day, it means it's just a money grab. to destroy your economy. Absolutely, because anyway, what does that mean when you buy, oh, I'm planting this many trees? That can just mean those trees are in a nursery. Like, if you cut down old growth forest, you know, to put in, which they're doing, you know, for data centers, for wind turbines.

And then you say that you offset that by planting trees somewhere else. I mean, it takes hundreds of years for that. It's not the same thing. And it doesn't mean they're even getting planted. Sometimes they're just like, oh, we have this sapling here. You know, I mean, it's just like... It's such bullshit. It's like the recycling ban, wherever it's like, recycle your plastics.

And then they follow the truck that is gathering all the recycle recycling. And they follow it. And he just goes right to the same junkyard and dumps the recycling in the exact same place that the trash does. You can go see that. You can go pay to go see the landfill. Oh, is there tours? I've not a tour, but you can just go. Well, and you can find countries in Europe that actually try to do recycling, even though

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Yes. Yeah. They did do that. Whatever evil thing they could do, they're going to do because the people in this city can't conform enough to power. and because the entire business model in Hollywood is to to basically project that you are a team player and you say ridiculously stupid things

about three-year-olds should transition and all that stuff. Just so the powers of B, you know, you're a team player, you know? And so they'll never fix anything. They'll never fix anything in this town because the population is so afraid not to work in Hollywood that they're going to let people like Karen Bass just burn it down. Just burn it down.

And like, oh my God, we got to get rid of the water because it's a safety hazard. You know what else is a safety hazard? Fire. Way more. Way worse. I'll take my chances. I'll drown.

With bacteria in the water over a fire burning down my house. We had a friend who, you know, was going through something so she was, let's say, living outdoors in her car. and a friend of hers was allowing her to stay at the house. And when the fires happened, he refused to leave his house and he died in his house. God. And it's just none of this is naturally happening. That's the problem with everything we're talking about right now.

None of it is a naturally occurring event. All of it is being astro-turfed by satanic elites who are just trying to destroy humanity. And the problem with evil is that evil never rest. Good people just want to live their life, be left alone, and they take a moment. They take their eyes off the ball for a moment. And these demons just keep pressing at all on every phase of your life, your food, your entertainment, your children, your air, you're every, you know,

it's like it's nonstop relenting. And it's like, I think the days of just being able to be. be like, you know, whatever, it's done. It's just done. You've got to pay attention, unfortunately, all the time, unless you want your kids to grow up in a completely demonic digital prison. Yeah, and digital prison is it. And that's what my latest book, The Red Shoes, Our Devils Dance with Technology and how we can stop it, is really, I've been thinking about this a lot lately too, like how everything is just weaponized against us. Everything good, natural, everything we need just to survive turns into a weapon, like our food, entertainment, everything,

so from socializing to just every little thing we do is now, like, it's weaponized. And they use, you know, psychology against us. All of our, they just exploit all of our vulnerabilities. And they do this with technology for sure. But they, just from foods, like foods turning in against us as a weapon, foods we need to survive to nourish us, to make us healthy, have been completely adulterated, it have been made to be addictive. And it's always this addictive component. So my latest book is about tech addiction because of how, again, like we're just being exploited.

And it's just to enslave us completely. You know, I've decided I might try to put together a book of old-fashioned remedies. You know, like I don't know if I said it on the last episode or I said it before, but so someone when we were, I think it was Johnny, it was on Broken Sim. One of the comments was that, you know, her grandma said that when you have Restless Lake syndrome to take a teaspoon worth of mustard. And she said they tried it and it worked. And all those old remedies are disappearing now.

So it's like, I don't know if there's a book out there that has that, but somebody should put out all we should have something we're like send me your old remedies send me stuff that your grandma told you send me something that your mom told you that you don't hear anywhere in modern day health or anything like that and just comprise all them into one

book so people go okay I have this what do I do bang try to do that yeah do you think that's crazy Johnny not necessarily I mean I it's interesting no I I do wonder about the liability of that you know like that's you have to be very careful

This does not constitute medical advice. This is not constitute. That will be the name of the book. Yeah. This is not a great idea of course. That's a good name. Like there's a Mexican one. Like if you get the cold, your grandma always tells you to put a vapor rub on your feet and then put a sock over it.

Oh, wow. Never heard that ever again. I heard it one time for my grandma. We did it. I mean. Paper rub on your feet? Yeah. Like for what?

For like if you got a cold. Okay. She put vapor rub. And then it like unstuffs your nose. I don't know if they put vapor up. It works pretty well in your chest. Yeah, and they do that, but then it goes away with the cold, but I just, like you said, I've never heard it. Heard it one time from my grandma.

We should do something where it's like email me your remedies and then we'll see if they work. We could do a little. So I want to get back to, go on, sorry. I was just going to say that's like a lot of things that's just the symptom of the deskilling that's happening and all of our traditions that we're losing, especially with technology is coming in because it's so ironic too. We're in this living in the age of information. we're supposed to be able to access all this information, but we're losing the most important wisdom, let's say, that's passed down through generations.

We don't have that connection anymore. Yes, because our culture is convinced us that old people don't know anything. Well, and they're being drugged and heading away from us. And, you know, I'm sorry, I'm so blown out, by the way. You can't be blown out. It's totally fine. I can't seem to stop.

The sun's coming right. I didn't really anticipate. I wish the sun would work with us. I know we podcast today. Blinding me right now. The camera's not, Zoom isn't the... You look great. It's totally fine.

There's no problem with it at all. There's no problem with it. So it's interesting, the Red Shoe, because, you know, this is a conspiracy podcast, so, you know, it's very much associated with dark, dark, dark stuff, the Red Shoes. Is there any correlation between what you're saying and that? Yeah, I do have a whole chapter on that. for all of the conspiracy theorists out there who want to get into that aspect of it. Because the book covers like every harmful aspect of technology, basically.

It's like over 600 pages. And I always do like really meticulous research notes. So I have like, you know, 50 pages of end notes. But I started with the fable of the red shoes because that as using it as an analogy of our kind of out of control dance with our relationship with our technology. Because for those, should I just kind of sum up the story? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Okay, so it's like Han Christian Anderson, so 1700s, he popularized this, and there's been retellings of it since then.

But so there's like an orphan girl living in the woods on her own, and she's like got her handmade life. Like she's doing okay. She's, you know, forages her own food and makes her own shelter and her own clothes. And she's made her own pair of red shoes, which are, you know, handmade. And they serve their purpose. And she's proud of them because she made them. But, you know, one day this gilded carriage pulls up. There's this old woman in it who's partly blind and that has its own symbolism who invites her to come home with her and she'll take care of her and clothe her and feed her and she won't have to work anymore.

And in that moment, a weakness of feeling like her life's kind of hard. She gives into the temptation and steps into the carriage. But what happens is this carriage is really the cage and it's like the beginning of the end for her because it's a trap. And this is what we're seduced by the technologies, but these tools that are promising to be convening. promising to give us luxury and easy lives and always fall short of that promise and worse than that it becomes a prison. So her shoes are immediately burned by this woman, like that she made herself. All her clothes are burned. And then she's given new clothes. And when she goes to buy new shoes, like at this point, she's feeling the loss of herself of her handmade life and her sovereignty. And she's

like just basically in a prison. It's a, you know, luxurious prison, but that's what it is. She doesn't have her creative life anymore. She's made to sit there and do nothing. And so she wants to do something with her life and she wants that back. But the only thing she's offered is like this store bought pair of shoes and she grabs for the red, shiny ones, you know, because they remind her of the one she lost. And there's like a groom, there's all these like older men in the story too who are like grooming her, you know, he's like winking at her like, yeah, yeah, take these shoes. Right. And then she puts him on and like then her you know guardian doesn't like I mean she doesn't really see well so she doesn't really see what's going on but she does eventually find out because she wears them the church and it's super

scandalous and everybody's like oh these red shoes you know are crazy um so she tells her do not wear them but then she keeps sneaking them and putting them on and then it's there's this like devil figure red bearded wounded soldier outside the church who like plays music and tells her start dancing and the shoes or doing the dancing for her as it turns out. And at first it's kind of fun, but then it becomes pretty frightening when she can't stop it and she can't take the shoes off. Oh, no. So eventually she has to have some, so she, it makes it, it becomes so bad that she's whisked away by them into the forest. And for weeks, she's like not eating and she's just dancing and she's about to die. And she can't pull them off. Nobody can get them off. So she has to ax. There's this, another older man,

a woodsman with, you know, because there were woodsmen back then with axes, you know, walking around. So she has him like come help her and he can't get him off. So he offers to cut her feet off. Oh no. And wouldn't that be great? So, you know, that's the only thing that they can come up with. So yeah, her shoes, her feet get cut off. Oh my God. Yeah. It's brutal. You know, it's like brutal loss fairy tales, right? Like these were lessons for kids. Like this is like, this is what addiction does to you. This is what this trap will do to you. And we need those lessons. We don't have them anymore. Not really, you know, like the violence is all glamour. And. And it's like not what is presented in a way that's really like lesson learning.

So she ends up a cripple and a beggar the rest of her life because she was given to that temptation. Whoa. Yeah. That's why. That is crazy. That is crazy. And it sounded good. You know, you don't have to do it.

You have to work. You just everything's given to you. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what's so funny is like that's exactly what I've been saying, the problem with our culture. right now is that everybody wants instant gratification over over going through it the handmade journey of like earning something it's like nothing against people who take why karate okay i know i've said this a couple time but i respect everybody but it's like jujitsu versus why karate why jiu jitsu takes 12 years

to get to a black belt and why karate is like you know five years you're a black belt because they want to keep kids interested. So they have to keep giving them a belt so they feel like they've achieved something. That is amazing. I never knew that story. Wow. That is modern culture. Exactly. And it's also about like the tool turning into the master. So like the shoes are the tool yet they start to take over the person who's supposed to be the master of the tool. So there's a role reversal. And the tools today that were told are tools, they have their own agendas. That's the difference between actual tools, like tools of workmanship that you totally control yourself. Like new digital tools have their own agendas.

And they're prompting you. They're using, you know, operant conditioning, behavioral, you know, stuff like psychology to train you, like Pavlob's dogs, like you're being trained to respond to the prompts, right? and so this is why I feel like we're in the red shoes and they're dancing us to our early demise there's definitely people who are being made cripple by tech use by addiction so it's really real a real threat

and yeah the Red Shoe Club though you're probably referring to I could talk about that as well that dark aspect you're like yes Red shoe club. Yeah. So, yeah, like, okay, so I didn't even know. It's funny because when I chose the title and the theme, I didn't even know about that. And I should. I know a lot about a lot of conspiracies, but I hadn't, and it's not, it is a real club. So there's a Red Shoe Club in Hollywood. All the Hollywood Elite are members and they have private meetings, but it's okay. They're not doing anything weird at them. Don't worry. They just want their privacy. And they call the Red Shoal Club. They sometimes have like gala. and will, you know, for charity or something. But I found so many other red shoe connections.

Like, so I guess with Satanists, they often wear them because, you know, to hide the blood on their rituals, like spill in her shoes or something. Or, yeah, that's one theory. There's also like the, it's made of the victims that they sacrificed, you know, their skin or something, that kind of thing. But I found it interesting, like Tom Hanks kept coming up when I did this research. Yeah, there we go. There we go.

Mr. Good guy. Mr. Good guy. Good to be true, dude. Because he was in a movie called The Man with One Red Shoe. Oh, my God. It's right there. Yeah. And he's always finding solo gloves.

So one shoe, one glove. And he even had, I even found one of his Instagram, creepy Instagram post of a kind of pink shoe that's like, I wonder. Oh, and it said like, little girl lost her shoe. And I found that same year or, you know, somewhere in that same year, there was another news story that came up with a missing 16-year-old girl and the same shoe. Oh, my God. Yeah. And I'm like, what?

Yeah, it's horrible. And I'm like, that's so creepy. Yeah. And, you know, so creepy Hanks. And then. Creepy Hanks. And his creepy son. Chet.

not Chet Yeah, Chet No, Chet is like The more normal one He's just a wigger And he's just trying Yeah, Colin's the weird one Oh Colin's the

Oh but Chet's the one That had the He's got the pyramid Yeah, yeah Yeah, he seems more like an idiot The other one is too quiet For my own good For me to be comfortable

He has very much his dad's vibe where he's presented as this kind of like kind, kind, quiet soul, why he's slowly in everything in Hollywood. He did play a serial killer on Dexter. They probably didn't have to do any research. It seemed very natural. Yeah. I'm just telling you, it's just like he's the one that creeps me out.

The two obvious one is, is check. He's more obvious. Yeah. But, dude, what's the, what's his brother's name, Johnny? Colin. Colin's the one that, you know. Because he still, I mean, if you go on his page, he still does the one glove, one shoe thing, but his comments are disabled. So he knows what's going on.

Yeah. I mean, if you want to, if you still have reservations about believing what Tom Hanks really is, just go watch Mouthy Buddha and his whole video. And when he breaks down everything, like he nails Tom, Tom Hanks to the wall, nails him with with this stuff that you seek. like you have to really look at the picture and then there's some weird kind of like writing that only a trained eye would see and when you study that and you go on yandex and all that stuff this is all symbolism yeah this is all it's like when we were talking about benciaga what is that belantiago bens how do you say it valenciaga valencia and you go why is there so much demonic pedophile symbolism in their commercials well because

their clientele is demonic pedophiles. They're literally advertising to their clientele. They're not hiding it. They're doing it to the people who know what they're watching. It's so crazy to me, dude. Well, there's another, there was a movie with Hanks. I mean, so many of the movies he's chosen to be in too, right? Like one, not that long ago, he was, I guess he's on a, I didn't see it.

So I'm trying to remember it. But there was some detail about him taking his shoes off and his feet or like bloody red because of like he had been standing in them too long. But his captain is Captain Epstein on that ship in that movie. I think it's called Greyhound. Oh my God. And what about like the force, the gump where he's doing the bathmit symbol as he says goodbye? He's got his fingers up and his fingers down.

I can't even do it because someone will freeze it. Be like, look at this guy. Look at his symbolism and his show. He's doing bathmet, you know. I can't even do it, but it's like two fingers up, two fingers down. And he's right there. And when he's in the military and then when his girlfriend decides she wants to leave and go get AIDS, and then she's ready to settle down after that.

It's like, I have kids and I have age. You want to date? That's a good time to settle down. Yeah, it's time to settle down. The funniest thing to imagine. He also, you know, that was supposedly the origin of the smiley face. Do you remember that part of it? like he had the mud on him from his doing his he just kept walking or running and he

oh yeah and he cleans his face off yeah that's where the smiley face killer thing yeah and the smiley face killer i know i was just going to say that is crazy remember it in spite it was supposed to be like inspiring the smiley face like bumper sticker thing you know oh my the thing i like to imagine though that is is funny is if imagine a world where all this is just pure coincidence and every time Tom Hanks finds out he's done it again, he's like, damn it, did we do? You know what I mean? He's called this Asian. Why do you get me these projects?

Everything I do is satanic pedophile cult stuff. I'm a nice guy. They're going to think I'm with, oh, can you imagine? I mean, no. Yeah, maybe he's just being used. I mean, he is being used. But if you remember the first time we find Tom Hanks, his bosom buddies, where he basically goes trans for the show.

and you know, we do that. They do that with black men in Hollywood. They love Philadelphia too. Yeah, but like in Boos and Buddy, he plays a man that dresses like a woman so he could get in this apartment. Like, who does that? He was like, dude, there's nowhere that we can't rent anywhere. The only place he'll take us. But we got dressed like women.

And I'd be like, what? No. Yeah, I'd rather be homeless at that point. Yeah. You know, but it's like, and we were like, oh, he's so crazy, Tom Hanks. He's just, he's got so much like, you know, So much, like, he's got real range as an actor. You're like, dude, they're like, they're plugging him into these things because he's a, he's a player in the system.

I mean, the fact that he was the first celebrity with COVID and he was on lockdown. I mean, come on. And then he was like, there was all that Jamotria going on with Tim and his Jim, Jim Rummy games and the Corona typewriter. You know, I mean, it was just, it was too ridiculous. It was like. He also did. What was the book series? the, oh God, those, you know,

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And what is that about? Well, the whole title is shots fired, vaccine weapons, medical tyranny, and the war against humanity. So that's what it's about. And people can't understand that. Now, I'm going to ask you something. And you may agree with this statement. You know, is everything that the pharmaceutical industry has done, Is it all of it bad, every part of it?

Because I have a good friend of mine named Brian Callan. He's a full idiot. I love him the pieces, but guy couldn't say dumber stuff. And I had a friend, Jeff Dye, go on his show, and they got a big argument about the pharmaceutical company. And Brian regurgitates pharmaceutical company talking points. Is it your belief that all of it is bad? Have they created anything good at all?

Is there, you know, like so, so like my daughter's autistic, right? And we get off here on what I think caused that. But, you know, there's this new drug that was meant for something else. But when they're giving it to autistic children, it's suddenly, I mean, they're instantly talking. And it has to do enzymes and all that folic acid or something like that. So is it your belief that everything that? And I'm not trying to pressure. This is just an honest question.

Do you think that everything that they've created is bad? Well, I mean, I don't touch the stuff, but anymore. But I wouldn't say, yeah, I'm sure there's some things, some good that's done. I mean, obviously there's good that's done at times with it. But that might just be because we don't have other options because they've gotten rid of all the other options. I think they're generally speaking, there are better options. Okay. You may not have, you know, access to.

If you don't have other options and that's it, then I'm not going to judge anybody. And, yeah, I'm sure lives have been saved or at least prolonged or some suffering's been eased. I mean, there's certainly wonderful drugs that, you know, can help people with their ease their pain. But, I mean, there's so many, when you look at long term, there always seem to be negative long-term ramifications. And that's where, you know, and maybe some of the surgeries are good or if you get a good surgeon or I don't know. I mean, yeah, overall, I'm kind of like anti, but that's what I've chosen to, you know, not do drugs. Okay. And again, I just want you know that wasn't an attack question.

Oh, no. I mean, I. And I had people in my family in the medical profession and, you know, somehow we managed to get along still and how about differences. That's the key to life, by the way, let it go. You've got to, if you're not talking to your family because of political discussion, I don't care how right you are in the debate, you've lost. If you're not talking to your family because you disagree with them on politics,

you have lost the spiritual war. You've got to let it go, man. It's not, it's as important as it is, it's still to not talk to your family and is, you know, is such a dangerous thing. And I had a friend of mine we were talking about it. And I was telling him that my theory is that you know,

when you're like, we're all friends here, right? We're very close friends. You know, I'm an old man. I don't hang out a lot. But, you know,

we do things together when we can. And so if we get an argument, we have to walk, watch the line. Because if we get an argument so badly, we could not be friends, right? You could be like,

F that guy, dude. dude he's a piece shit what he said to me but with your family there is no line because you're never not family so you could always crank it to the craziest things possible because you're always still going to be family no matter you could be like yeah i got brother i don't talk to it he's a he's a he's a he's a real jerk but he's still your brother till till you're gone i mean that's just even in death he's still your brother you know or your sister or your father or your So therefore, the line, there is no line, and people just fly past that all the time. And that's where you got to kind of pick your battles on how far you're willing to go,

especially with family. And again, if you're not talking to your family member because they're a Trump or a Joe Biden idiot, you know, it's, you've lost the battle. You've really lost the battle. You've got to, again, you've got to let it go, man. You got to, you know, you got to kind of say goodbye. Listen, is the, is the, is the, is the sun killing you right now? No, it's fine.

I'm just, just giving myself a little relief for a second. I like it. Okay. If you move over. I feel so bad doing this while you're getting your beating. No, it's my fault for not. I just, it hasn't, I guess I haven't done one at this time recently. I'm sorry.

If we need to take a moment for you to adjust your camera. Do you want to take a moment to either move a little bit so you don't, so you're not getting bombarded. You have sunglasses? Do you have sunglasses? Can you Stevie wonder it? It's fine. It's not a big deal.

Okay. And it's probably going to go behind another chem cloud soon anyway. Oh, thank God for those. Yeah, thank God. We'll go a couple more minutes. We'll get to an hour. We'll leave you of your battle against the sun.

I don't feel so bad right now. I'm sorry just for viewers. No, you're crushing it. Most people listen, so don't worry about it. Okay. If you want to close your eyes the whole time, it's fine. If you just want to be in a zone and you're just meditating out. Yeah, there you go.

A big problem. I was going to say about the COVID, like, sorry, I agree with you about the family thing. I mean, less, of course, your family's just outright abusive. I mean, some people. Yeah, physical abusive and even beyond yelling, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, the thing about the COVID whole, you know, craziness is that it really was

effective at dividing us, you know, because then it's like, which side are you on? Are you anti, are you pro, you know, vaccine or you anti, like, anti-pharmacetylop? I mean, there's no like in between. There's no overlap. There's no discussion. And, you know, I could be wrong. I do my research, you know, from the facts I think I've, I've found I tried put them together cohesively. I'm really about critical thinking and just getting people to ask questions and, you know, myself just asking more questions. And yet it's like you can't ask those questions anymore. It's dangerous. You're a danger to others. It's crazy, right? You know, and it's like, we used to be able to talk. I used to be okay before that for me to differ in

opinion about medical things. But then suddenly it wasn't okay anymore to have a different, you know, and it was okay if I just wanted to use herbal medicines and I didn't want to use pharmaceuticals. But no, now it's like, no, this is the one truth is this. And it's coming from this mouth, these mouthpieces working together. And, you know, like, this is what everybody has to do. And that's what I just thought was so crazy that people aren't questioning that. Because when did we all of a sudden say this is it? This is the medical model that we all agree on. Yeah.

And we're all supposed to take this. You know, we're all supposed to do this and fall in line with that. And that's, you know, in Kovok backwards is Dvok, which means to divide in Latin. Oh, wow. Yeah. So, you know, I find it very interesting. And particularly on the left and the extreme right, either you're with us or against the stuff.

They, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're so great. These think tanks are coming up with bumper stickers saying, like the science is settled. And it's, how is the science settled when you, quote, quote, quote, invented a vaccine in a year? Like, like, which we all know is absolutely impossible. They were doing this for a long time revving up to this moment. Um, but the big problem that we have, right, well, first of all, let me just, go back to that point is that the inability to discuss anything is one of the greatest sciops ever pushed on all of us. This notion that someone that disagrees with you politically

is a bad person. Now, what I would tell you is that the majority of people don't think that. What we have a real problem right now is that to go viral, you must be extreme at something. it's got to be the extreme. Even if it's the most simple thing, like a baby laughing. It's like that is an extreme to all the videos we see children crying and all that stuff. But to go viral is not a normal thing. But to be seen on the internet, you must go viral. So these very unnatural moments are now becoming the natural.

What's the word I'm looking for? It's now becoming the status quo. Yeah. It's just this like radicalization of everything. Right. We're only seeing the most radical version of anything that's, and it's, we're seeing it over and over again that is now becoming the norm. When it is not the norm, it's actually the exception. Do you understand what I'm saying? And that makes it seem, but this is where like kids are especially vulnerable because they're seeing these extremes and they're comparing themselves to them and their lives. and, you know, it's obviously turning into like really translating to really extreme

unhealthy behavior in offline in order to get that attention, especially when like their parents are so glued to their phones. They won't look at them unless they're doing something that gets their attention. And then, you know, they kids learn that like they get their parents' attentions off the screen for a minute. If they do something really crazy and their friends and they make friends that way, too, like you have to just do more and more extreme things. And then the parent then turns the phone.

to the kid to like film your kid and then puts it puts it on their Facebook or something. I mean, it's just really warped now. You know, it's like it is the comparisons, the unrealistic comparisons going on, especially now that like AI is entering the picture and creating fake people completely. Like before the filters were bad enough and like your, you know, kids are comparing themselves with like filtered images of other kids and get feeling bad about themselves. And now you've got like fully made up people. Yes.

You know, that aren't even real at all. Yes, I agree. What I was saying is these kids are like trained and not really trained. They're just, imagine you're a one or two year old and the people pull out a camera. And everyone starts cheering. So you already know at like one, two, three years old that the camera is good. So you're becoming you're ready for pictures. Because I see my niece, my sister pulled out her phone.

And that girl's already. Yeah. And you're just like two, three. Like she was trying to take a picture of her, a very wholesome. But then the kids saw the picture and they became not. a wholesome moment, it became a, I'm going to go on Instagram. Work it, girl, do your thing. And I was like, working two-year-olds.

Yeah, two-year-olds don't need to have angles. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Two-year-olds should not know it's good side. Exactly. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's become devastating. And the reason the internet is, everything about the internet is devastating.

But one thing is these algorithms now are shaping our reality. and people don't realize like I realize that the algorithm is working with me working me when I everyone on my timeline agrees with me or I agree with them it's it's feeding me a certain stance that I'm like oh yeah I agree with I'm like where's all the dissension where's the stuff I don't agree with which is hilarious because that's what happened on blue sky they created this super progressive Twitter and all the progressives hated it because they had no one to fight with because they loved that drama. So they all fleed from it.

They're like, I don't like this. We all agree. Let's go over here and fight with these guys. But the biggest problem is because when we get back to COVID is people's inability to understand the devastating effects of the vaccine. They don't realize the number of deaths that have happened because of it into the millions. Now, let's not even get into what they're saying happened in China where the Chinese government, which has done it before

Merked hundreds of millions of Chinese. That's what the data is showing right now. Is that hundreds of millions of Chinese were basically almost half their population was taken out because the one-child policies made it impossible to sustain taking care of the poor and the elderly. So guess what they did? They got rid of the poor and they got rid of the elderly.

This is based on how much salt they import, the amount of funeral homes that have opened, the amount of children that they've lied about that are in schools. Because China's whole thing is like we have 1.4 billion people that they've been saying for a decade or two, which is impossible when you have a one child policy. It's impossible to have that many to sustain that number over decades when you're not having children. And with a really high suicide rate as well. Extremely high suicide rate that nobody's talking. Particularly from the Foxcon buildings. I don't know if you know about that.

iPhone manufacturer. Yeah. They had to put suicide nets up. That was the response to the suicides. It was putting nuts. Yeah, I agree. Tim, Tim, what's his name from Apple? Look, Tim Cook.

We don't go there for cheap labor. We go there because they're the only. They're so wonderful. They're so smart. And they're just smarter. They're just bad. Really? Are they smarter to know that?

why are you jumping when they have suicide nets there? Are they that smart? They're just absolutely. Oh, it's great there. It's like they have restaurants and movie theaters. And I'm like, oh, heaven on earth then, right? Yeah. It's like a 15-minute city model, basically, is what that compound is.

Listen, Shannon, I can't do this to you anymore. You look like you're battling. I know. Shannon, I just want to say to you, this is an excellent episode. We've had a great time. Okay. Let's figure out another time to get you on when the sun isn't battling your honor. Make sure I have a curtain.

Okay. Yeah, next time. I just want you know, we did an hour. It's a great conversation. I loved it. I'm not. This isn't that it didn't go while. I just can't take you.

It's just getting destroyed by the sun right now. And according to Santo Spanachi, you should be doing great right now. I like, I mean, I used to doing fun, but yeah. It's a lot. I don't get much of it. It's probably going to go down. a couple minutes. Yeah.

Let's let's let's let's let's come back again and do it. We'll, we'll have other things to discuss. I just, I can't do this to you. You just look like you're, the sun is like right in your eyes, like a police,

police light trying to get you to, to admit to a murder you didn't commit. Just tell us why you were there. I wasn't there. Why are you there? They just got the light in your office. Well, if you want, I do have it.

I think I could set up something else real quick. It's up to you. It's like, I just don't want. to put you out. We hit our hour and that's usually what we need. So I would love to keep going with you, but I don't want to put you out. It's just, it's a great conversation, right? If you don't mind, give me a minute and I'll see what I can come up with. We'll give me a minute. We'll give you a minute. All right. We're back. The sun is no longer our enemy. We're in it to

we have a different kind of ambiance right now. I like it. I feel like we're at one of those old school Italian restaurants where the lighting is really nice. You ever see that? I love that. Anyways, the amount of, it's almost demonic what these social media platforms are doing. It's not almost, it is. The destruction of truth, like, I get why these guys have Mark Zuckerberg on because it's a big get, and he's a master of mankind, and, you know, people will tune in because he's on there. but really what he's done to humanity is absolutely disgusting

and he shouldn't be allowed on these platforms. I think there's things that people do that they shouldn't be allowed to come back from. You know, like, you know, when Patrick Bet David had Anthony Weiner on, I love that he brought up frazzledrip, but in reality we shouldn't be platforming Anthony Weiner in any way. Or Netanyahu. Or Netanyahu or Ted Cruz.

Yeah. You know, it's like, but the reason I'm bringing this up is because the information highway has been just annihilated. Like these, these tech companies have become like Somalian pirates where they're just raiding the truth all the time and only letting certain things through. You know, if you look at my Instagram now, do you know what Instagram has done to me now? If I have a clip that does so well on my pins, they won't allow me to pin it anymore. They do not want anyone seeing that. I got a million views on their, on their, on their. platform. So now I have to take it down. Anytime any of my video gets close to a million or over a million,

you'll let you pin it. It will suddenly disappear. I'm like, where did this go? And I'll go down there it is. I go to go repin it. That option is no longer there. They really hit you over there. They hate me, dude. Like the actresses video was great and it did decent. Yeah. Andy, you put Sam Tripoli on it. It is like, I have my picture's on a dartboard at meta. I can't. wait till we find that. And they're just like, the one day you're going to, you're going to get that list and you're going to be like everybody banned from Instagram, YouTube,

and you're going to be top 100. No, I'm worse than banned. I actually believe being shadow banned is worse than band because when you're banned, you could use that as kind of like a marketing tool of like, hey, look, they're coming at me, support me. Like Nick. Like Nick. Like Nick, like that's

banned. It's why the mute is better than the block. Yep. Yep. You're totally right. But the reason I bring this all up is because there, like there's this one guy that would, for a while, there was just yelling at me about, dude, how dare you talk about vaccines like you do? You don't understand how many lives they were, they saved. And then I would just send them every single link that somebody sent me to how dangerous these vaccines are. To the point, he begged me to stop sending him to him.

Please stop. Please stop sending me these. it's you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're don't understand that you know and that is that is the danger of these social media apps what are your thoughts you can't you can't prove that um that you saved a life in these cases so that's feel like oh they would have died that's not something that's provable you know so that makes it really easy to manipulate public opinion and statistics and um yeah but they say algorithms, like you said, the shadow banning is, like, in, you know, compared to like being

mutant instead of blocked is like what's happening just with information. The way they're censoring information online now is really, like, it's sneakier. It's like, it's really the algorithms have changed so that you just can't find it. They don't remove it. You just can't find it. Yes. So if the search engine is rigged in a way to not bring you the relevant search result, it doesn't. It brings you the result it wants to show you. Like, I know as a researcher how much harder it's been in the last few years to do my research than it was even just, even just like, say, pre-COVID, you know. In fact, now I always save my articles offline because they just disappear at the length of

all the time or I can't find them again. And so I have all of them saved as PDFs. I made the mistake of not doing that for the first book I co-authored with John Hammer. Or actually, in some of that, I just like bookmarks and then my computer. crashed. I had to get a new computer. I lost all that. And then when I tried to find them again, and you just couldn't find them. Yeah. So it's really amazing. And one of the things that I point out in my book a lot in the new book is how our time is wasted while being online. Like it's supposed to be so efficient and all these new tools for efficiency. And it's like the opposite

because they're all designed to maximize what they call user engagement, like us being the users, like drug users. And so to that end, they make. They make. get things less efficient. Maybe with this like illusion of efficiency, but it's meant to like waste your time. So when I search, even when I do like a really strict search, when I use the quotes, I'm trying to like say I want this exact thing and it should come up with those results. It's like all the other things that are not related. Yes.

Or that are like, if you're saying like that deaths from vaccines, it'll be like all the fact checks why there aren't deaths more deaths than vaccines. or what, you know, like the other argument. And so, you know, what amazes me is the people who keep saying, well, arguing for like the mainstream argument as if I've never heard it. I'm like, that's all I hear. And like, you're not looking at any other arguments and you can't even find that information or if you do, it's always again, the same like, we checked this.

And the fact checkers are, they say themselves, they're not fact checkers. It's their opinions, you know. It's like nobody has the monopoly on truth and fact. You know, it's just like that using those words is just another way of like manipulating. So, but yeah, it's just such a time suck and time waste. And I mean, you have to go through at least several pages often to get anything that is relevant. So. No, I agree with you on that. I also, I also agree that, you know, you put in something into Google. And Google is now becoming obsolete. It's they're, they're hemorrhaging numbers. They've destroyed their products.

much that people don't even want to use it. And now these chat bots like chat GPT, people are starting to use those. And then those now are censoring. That goes against our policy. And then you're like, answer it. They're like fine. But eventually it's not going to do that. So what I, I forget what I was looking for exactly.

But I had to go to Yandex, which was the Russian version of Google. Instantly in the front, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, everything I was looking. for. Well, do you remember when you used to type in whatever on Google and it would give you like a thousand pages? And now it only gives you 10 or like whatever it wants to give you and there's no more. And then it's like, yeah, after this, the results are all the same. You don't want to see it. And you're like, oh, no, I do want to see it because you don't want me to see it.

Exactly. Yeah, it's getting crazy. And, you know, when we look back, we probably didn't appreciate how great the internet was around 2015, which was kind of the peak of it. People were starting to do their own research more. People were connecting, discussing their research. And, you know, of course, Hillary had to come in and try to, you know, hijack the primary and everyone called her out. And that's where they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay, you guys, you guys know too much. We're going to start ruining everything. And that's when internet censorship really kicked in. So try to find these old articles about, you know, the cops who all looked at Anthony Wiener's laptop. Good luck finding any of those links.

It's funny. The first time you mentioned that, we did find it again. But I mean, do you want to find it again? Yeah, see what you can find. There's like actual articles that were written about it. I'm not saying just a blog post, but actual articles written about the situation. And I, you know, because I try to do it. You're like, where is all this info?

You can't find it. So, and, you know, it's like good luck finding about the black special ops that were at the Boston Marathon bombing. That's really hard to find. Oh, yeah. You know, like, nothing is real. That's what you need to understand. But it's also like, it kind of gets you to this point where you start to realize that your job isn't to wake people up. Your job is to put the information out there.

And those who want to wake themselves up, that's how they do it. like putting guns to people's heads are just, it's not happening, dude. I mean, you just got to keep putting out enough information. And I do feel like people are starting to wake up to the dangers of the political elites, the dangers of certain ideologies like, you know, feminism and socialism, even though we just voted in a socialist. I didn't have anything to do with it. But in New York City, it's like, good luck, brother, good luck. with that because we've seen what happened in L.A.

You saw what happened in San Francisco. Now that you say that, it's kind of scary. You think it could happen here in California? What? Socialist. Dude, it is happening. What are you talking about? It's like even worse than anywhere else.

Yeah, but he's obviously claiming it over here at least are not like full on. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, they can call it whatever they want. It's like Karen Bass is a literal Marxist. She used to go to Cuba to listen to Fidel Castro's talks. Now, what I will tell you, and, you know, pasta is right. I thought that Putin's grandfather was Jewish. He's not. I hope pasta an apology.

But, you know, what they, what these Latin American countries do versus what our college campuses are teaching. Like the Marxism down there is that they know. that international corporations and the U.S. government are trying to rape them of all their natural resources. So they're pushing back on that. So is the people versus the government, right? That's not what's happening in America. Cultural subversion is happening and Bolshevikism is happening in America, which is this slow destruction of the country from the inside, just like they did in China, just like they did in Russia, just like they did in Germany, and to a point what they did in India.

You know, they're destroying it through the inside through Bolshevik brainwashing of these kids who come from rich families that benefited from the capitalism in which they are railing against. And it's being done. And so Karen Bass's Marxism is not the Marxism of a tribe in Latin America that doesn't want the government to cut down their lands. It's a totally different thing. she wants destruction of society so that they can have their version which is seizing the means of production, which is hilarious that they think for the people. But the end result is a totarian government which controls everything. It's absolutely insanity, the mental gymnastics that these rich kids are doing in this thought of freeing man.

But really, you're just handing power over to the elites again. again at the same time like pure capitalism which is not what we have in america we have crony capitalist socialism we do not have pure capitalism all of these these permits and all this stuff is set there it's called fee of entry to stop poor people from being able to participate in in the in the marketplace to go against rich people which don't want to do any work they just want create stuff and have poor people do all the work so they make all the money it's just absolutely ridiculous but that's what's happening so you go what will you think they could happen in california it has happened in california cultural Marxism everything that Marxism like the Bolshevik Marxism is

about has happened in San Francisco the the elevating of alternative lifestyles the creating a war between men and women um the elevation of minorities to demonizing the majority. All that is Bolshevikism, and it's happening here as we speak. So if you're a New Yorker and you're some rich, progressive white woman who simultaneously believes that the cops are racist and law enforcement is racism, and then at the same time, you're begging people to protect you from what you voted for. Like, it's literally, it's literally mental gymnastics.

and they can see how disastrous has been in San Francisco. All the beautiful businesses that made San Francisco such an artistic wonderland, you know, where people would go there to, like, experience culture, like old school culture and beautiful arts and restaurants and entertainment is gone, dude. It's all gone. The wharf is empty. They've, that beautiful wharf where people around the world would travel. Like San Francisco was our Rome, you know, people would come there to experience the culture of that. Gone, dude. Dead. Gone. That's like culture everywhere. And it's because of technology. And this is like the great leavening or, you know, leveling kind of thing that's

happening to make us all into one homogenous, like, uniform, totally controlled. And it's society on a global level. And it is, like you said, it's like, you know, the government, we don't have real capitalism here because we don't have true free trade. It's always like government involvement in subsidies. And then, of course, the group's lobbying the government and these private public partnerships. And it's interesting how much people seem to always want, like more government intervention.

It's so crazy. These problems that are created. And just like they turn. to more tech for the to solve the problems tech has created. And to me, it's like all I see is like Brave New World kind of script, you know, playing out. Yeah. A sort of combination of that in 1984. But so much with like you're saying just the conditioning of the young, you know, the young people as they're being raised into like their ideology will change everything. That's the revolution. It's not like, you know, they think they're doing good things. Kids are always wanting to change things.

and they get, you know, they're idealists. And all you do is, like, feed them. Tell them, you know, the media is telling them, like, what the wrongs are, what they should be focused on. And when they're actually, you know, ends up ignoring what they really should be focusing on. And then they end up being enslaved because of that. I mean, it's just, it's totally evil. But it's definitely, like, a complete manipulation.

But it's just amazing how quickly, like, you're seeing the change of San Francisco, but like pretty much every major city and like all of the world. And especially because in COVID, one of those, you know, moments that really pushed things over. And it was intentional and it was planned because we were leading up to that with our tech use,

but it was one that like tipping point events to further it and to, you know, hasten it, um, bring the pace up. And even there were like articles saying like that it helped us warm up to machines. Like before,

before it, we weren't like, Like we were like, oh, I don't really want to like be on my machine all the time or like, I don't really like robots that much or want robots in my home. Yeah, I don't want robots. Yeah, but robots are like, you know, machines don't have germs and humans are like carrying them, which is like absurd. These machines can harm us. They do harm us, not just from EMFs, but chemicals, you know, like released in the gases just from the batteries that we're using and how they heat up and they release like fluoride gas. People, a lot of people don't know that, you know.

And so it's like there's so many hazards attached to our machines that we don't hear about. You know, they're painted as like, yeah, they're so great and they're so because they're sterile or something. But I mean, the psychological impacts of lockdowns, that is long lasting. And that's intentional, this all comes out of all the CIA control experiments over decades of isolation, you know, how to break somebody. breaking a person happened most easily with sensory deprivation and isolation.

Yes. And both those things were used. And the best scenario is if you have sensory deprivation and when I say that, I mean like removal from the natural sensory rich world. And then you're bombarded

with this artificial one. Yes. And which is actually sensory deprivation, we're overwhelmed and overloaded with audio and visual, you know, sensory input. And it's two-dimensional. but it's nothing like the richness of the natural world and that sensory input.

And we're not getting that. So that's deprivation. And then when you couple that with information propaganda being fed to you every day while you're under those like kind of torture, you know, that kind of environment, that's how you not just break them, but you completely alter them and brainwash them, mind control them. I mean, it's just like. I could agree more. And you see the, the results of it. it takes so much to get people to get out of their their houses now. We're destroying local businesses through Amazon.

Amazon is an extension of the U.S. government through DARPA, just like Facebook is, just like Google is. All these things are fascism, you know, consolidation of power through the government. And these idiots just don't even understand what they're doing. So I want to end on this real quick because this is my face. favorite subject, germ theory versus terrain theory. I'm a terrain theorist. Johnny is a card membering germ theorist. He just refuses to accept it.

Not the original terrain theory where we believe that your terrain matters quite a lot, but that microbes exist, yes. I'm not saying microbes. We're talking specifically viruses. What are, because I tell people, hey, dude, this isn't real. They're like, oh, sounds like you have AIDS. I don't have AIDS. I don't have AIDS. But he's got AIDS.

But he's got AIDS. No, I don't have AIDS. Look how the fat I am. Do you think you can be fat and with AIDS? You got the Magic Johnson AIDS. I wish. Give me my billion dollars. Yeah. So what is your thoughts on germ theory versus terrain theory and the existence of viruses as most people understand what a virus is?

Now, I'm not saying, okay, what's your opinion now say? Well, yeah, and I get into that in shots fired in depth, but viruses. Virus comes from the Latin. It means poison. So poisons do exist. They have never actually isolated a virus genome as they illustrate them to us under an electron microscope, which is completely possible. So they came up with the idea of a virus before they were able to see it. And this happens a lot in science. Like we think this exists. So we're just going to go with this for a while. So germ theory, you know, in compassed other microbes like that, yeah, we can say exist in bacteria, although even then the way that they look at the bacteria and identify them involves a lot of like you take the sample cell culture, and then you do a lot of things to it like with dyes and sometimes heat. And, you know, so is that really what's in the body? It's altered. By the time you see under a microscope, it's not what's in the body. We can't really see what's in the body, you know, as it is in there. Maybe now with the nano, like the nano, you know, remote, like, yeah, bought things with the cameras. I don't know.

But, um, but then they said, okay, well, we, we don't have a, so they thought, well, they believed in germ theory, um, because of Louis Pasteur, who was like, he was pushed, he was a fraud and, you know, he was pushed forward with, like, he was the favorite of Napoleon's court. And, and so Bechamp was, like his rival and he stole a lot of Becham's work to credit for it. But then he, you know, and he did all these like experiments with vaccines with rabies and things. Anyway, I get into the history of vaccines. I'm going off a tangent here, but what I'm getting to is that, okay, that they thought they just identified certain bacterium as being responsible for certain diseases, which is already

a simplistic model of disease to say, like, well, this one thing, you know, that's microscopic, like produces this one disease, therefore we can make one cure, like a vaccine or something else, right? and that's kind of like an alopathic model of medicine, but it's not what everybody's always believed, and they don't. So that's germ theory like this. You get exposed to the microbe and you can get sick with these symptoms. Although most, that never happens all the time. Like people can be exposed to it and not get sick.

So then they'll say, well, there's other factors. So isn't it the other factors that cause disease then? Why is it the germ at all? If it's the other factors too, you can't really have both ways in my mind, but that's what they do. anyway, so they said there must be something smaller we can't see in these instances where we can't find bacteria that we can, you know, point our fingers to. So once there was that electron microscope developed, they never actually were able to see the viruses still, but they said they thought we're seeing virus particles instead. Yes.

And they top the genome. Yes. So to date, the only viruses have ever been identified according to their own kind of funky science, right? So their own, like, this is how we do things. Stefan Lanka, you're probably familiar with him. He was the only one who's really seen, identified viruses, the whole genome, and those were only found in plants and specifically in sea algae. And there were seen to be benign and perhaps even beneficial.

So they were never identified in animals and humans ever. And I know I'm personal friends with James McComiskey. He's authored several books. He wrote the four to shots fired for me. And he's taken upon himself. to try to get this evidence to say he's gone to like all the officials and authorities and said like show me he's like I want to see this paper and that says that you've identified you know and isolated this virus and all that they're always coming back to him and saying we can't bring up that record because no such record exists because they do not isolate viruses this is like the national laboratory in Dublin and he lives in Ireland they do not they say repeatedly we do not isolate viruses so nobody has done this. Yes.

It's called Cox postulates, right? And they had Cox Postulates. They couldn't fulfill the requirements of Cox Postulates, which is scoop out of a virus out of a host, isolated. So it's just that. Take that isolate virus, put in another host, have it replicate the exact same disease, the same actions happen. Scoop it out of that host. isolated again, put it in a third host and see it replicate. It's never happened.

So they had to come up with something. I don't know the exact name of it, but it's along the lines of like rivers requirements or something like that, which completely and utterly is bullshit, dude. It's like they just paid this guy to come up with a way that sounds important. That sounds like it's, um, that it's, uh, Cox, postulates,

but it's not like they pollute the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, chemia, all this other stuff, which says, again, going back to the particles, okay? So there's, he's been on a show, I want to get him on again, Dr. Andrew Kaufman. He's a blessing in humanity because he's smart enough to know their speak. So he'll take any time that someone comes out of paper that says they've proved posth postulates with COVID viruses, he reads the findings, right?

And on top of that, he goes to the little, um, the footnotes where they, they find like the actual experiment that was done, he'll go to that, read that. And at the end of it, they always say, this does not fulfill Cox Posh-Shortals. Every fucking time. But we live in an era where lying isn't shunned. Because there's billions of dollars involved.

They will lie through their fucking teeth, right to you that this, that they fulfilled the requirements. and it's never happened ever ever ever and people cannot come to grips with that ever even go as far as to like title of paper um isolation of coronavirus you know blah blah and then inside the paper they say we didn't isolate everything 100% happens all the time and you know coal sores and anything downtown right is the exact same thing oh because i mean i mean i don't know how much I believe it, but everybody has herpes. Well, it's like when I was young,

when I was young, someone got cold, so you know what they say to them? Oh, you're really stressed out. I hear it all the time. Oh, you must be really stressed out because you have a cold sore. And now they're telling you have some kind of virus. I never had one. I couldn't tell you.

Okay, Johnny, well, you're a unicorn, okay? Everybody else has somebody who's had a cold, you don't know anyone who's had a cold. No, I'm a good. Anyone who's had a cold sore? No, no, I said, I've never had one. Okay, I got two unicorns on the show. But everybody else has had a cold sore.

I get stressed all the time. Okay, Johnny, well, you're the, the anomaly doesn't prove. The two anomaly, the two out of three people in this room. Which is two out of three out of billions of people, okay, Johnny? Sure. All right. Sure. Okay, John.

Okay, guys. Sure, guys, any of your signs findings, please run it through Johnny because he wants to know if he's done it or not. If Johnny hasn't done it, your findings are wrong. Okay, boss. Okay, Johnny, that's what I thought. So your thoughts on that, Shannon? Sorry, cold sores?

Cold sores. And the sores downtown that everyone, for example. And I wasn't, like, intimately involved with somebody at the time. Yeah. You know? Thank you. Right. It's just.

Have you been involved with Johnny intimately at all? I don't think so. Okay, okay. Just want to make sure. Just want to make sure. He's got his fingers crossed real time. Okay, okay. Let's just really hope. So, yeah, that's the whole thing.

Like, when you try to tell people AIDS doesn't exist, they're, they, they, they, it's the old saying, it's easier to fool somebody than to convince them they've been fooled. They just can't come up with that. Even Kurt Metzker, who I love with all my heart, who I think is one of the funniest, smartest, fastest guys. I've been blessed to call a friend, you know, like when you bring up the virus, he, he just can't come to, come to grips with that the lie is so. big and it's been able to happen. I go, well, what about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? The entire world thought that

was real. We're seeing it right now with Venezuela. With half the people who are Trump supporters just can't believe that this guy is you know, just another war among it. That Clay Thompson guy who runs like, was outkick the coverage. It was like maybe we should go into. I go,

Clay, get on a plane and go fight this war. When I, you and then tell us how it went. These guys in bass boats, 2,000 miles away, suddenly going to show up on our shores. Yeah, sure. It's just,

and it's just over and over and over again. It's, it's mind-blowing because people are simple and they're good people and they're trusting people. And people think it's exhausting to question authority. They just think it's, and it's really not. It just assume they're lying to you

and have them earn your trust. Don't believe anything that comes out of their fucking mouths. Anything that the news or the government tells you, assume it's a lie, and make them earn your trust. Because I have yet to be proven true. Go on, sorry, Shannon. What I love is when they have lied and then, and then, like, say, like, you know, and that happened, and people, like, find out and it's known.

And then they go on and say something else. And we're supposed to believe them this. And they believe them again, like a president or whoever, some authority. And they'll just somehow, like, I don't know, just forget they lied before. Like, people's memories are so short. I mean, the attention spans are short is what I should say. And that's intentional and that's just their shortening, again, because of tech news and internet use and addiction. And it's like you're constantly distracted.

And that serves the purpose of like the short memories so that we don't remember all the lies. Like I remember with Obama. Okay. I was like super excited. I'll admit like back then I was like all excited about Obama. Because I lived in D.C. And I was on the streets like celebrating with all my black brothers and sisters too. you know, we're like, finally.

And here we are. And I admit it, like, got duped because, like, I believed all that, you know, his change thing and all that. I was all caught up in it. Me too, dude. Not Johnny, though. Okay. Correct. Well, he saw it.

I did. I did, too. He saw through it. But he like, you know, then I saw the lot, like, the things happening. He did the promises he didn't keep. And then doing other things. We were supposed to get out of a wreck, like immediately. And it never happened.

And now I'm like, well, so I'm decided. I don't believe. him anymore, but everybody else seemed to just keep forgiving him. And that's the thing. It's like the team thing too, right? That team mentality and the group mentality. And it's like, well, you got to keep supporting the same team, no matter how crappy they are, no matter how much they lie to you, destroy your life. It's just crazy to me how two years after we elected Trump and he's been a disaster. There are things I like that he's done. I like him way more than I like Biden or Obama or Bush or anything. But

that doesn't mean anything. That's like, I like, I like Freddie Kruger over Jason Voorhees. It's the, it's like, which murderer is your favorite murderer? Yeah, I'd rather die in my dreams than. Yeah, well, at least I'm sleeping. At least die in your sleep. Thank you, Freddie Kruger, right? It's just absolutely ridiculous. But, you know, it's like this notion where you see like, like political commentators who got a lot of stuff right going, I'm going by, I'm going to vote all Democrat next in the midterms and blah. I'm like, why are you doing that? Why are you just two years later going back on everything you thought two years ago?

Because they're incapable of going, I can't be on a team. They have to be on a team. And it's like, listen, make it so bad on them that the lie must be completely and utterly illuminated. You have to do that. If we get enough people to vote third party, it's going to be impossible for them to rig it. what they'll do is they'll send somebody in and just completely and utterly co-op that group.

But if we're smart or not, and we're not going to vote our way out of it, just so you know. You could vote for clowns. You could vote for jesters. I prefer jesters because they tend to tell you the truth. But you can vote for care bears and smirfs and all these people that you think are going to, it's not going to happen. But nothing's going to happen in this country as long as we have fat homeless people with iPhones. It's just, it's never going to happen. once you have people so comfortable enough that they're overweight living outdoors and still have

Wi-Fi service, it's just never going to change. It's just, it's got to get so bad that they wake the fuck up. And they're just smart enough to give us enough to keep us complicit. It's a soma. Yeah. It's a difficult soma. It's like it's a drug. And yeah, you, people are just too, they're drugged, you know, one way or the other and drugged into their stupor. And I get, like I think also our brains are being destroyed by tech use intentionally and we're basically being lobotomized and this all comes out. And we can talk about this another time. But I like to give the history of like the birth of the internet and what was behind that. But like with cybernetics, which was cyber means to steer. And that was the whole idea was like the cyborg just means like a

controlled person or like part machine, but like cyberspace. It's controlled. And the internet was meant to be a system, you know, global communications and a new matrix to control us and steer us within it to create the perfect psycho-civilized person, as they called it. This was like the age of era of lobotomies. There were like 50,000 lobotomies in North America and the 40s and 50s. And then the brain experiments with electrodes and microwave frequencies. And that's what Elon Musk is doing with the, you know, Neurilink. He's calling telepathy now. But this is all, about, you know, destroying brains so that you can control people and turn us into zombies. It's basically what it's about.

And there were even, like, lobotomies with the ice pick. I don't know if you even know about that. But, yeah. Yeah, it happened to the Kennedy daughter that they just basically lobotomized and threw her away in a home for a while. And it's like we, I just did a show called Doom Scrolling. It's my clip show. We do reaction videos to. We do reactions to the videos.

And this one woman, it's a nine minute video. but she breaks down about how like is it possible Elon Musk is our modern day what's his name Mangula is that how you know Mangula and because you're talking about Mangala the doctor yeah yeah because what they're what they're noticing is that these detention centers in in Arizona and Miami Florida are right next to Neurrelink centers and that people are dying mysteriously in these immigrants centers of things of brain brain neurology and all this stuff which is very similar to the monkeys that died in in Elon Musk early experiments

trying to put neuralinks in the monkeys. I want to tell them like, hey, you get free citizenship if you survive the surgery. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's it. Or these guys are such bad dudes that not even their home. Bad ombres. Bad ombres. Or how about the missing kids they never found the parents to during COVID? Remember all those kids that they just found?

Yeah, God help us what happened with those kids. You know, it's just, it's really dark. It's probably some orphan train shit, too, where, like, they're just putting them in American families and saying they were given up for adoption, just like they did with the orphan trains in the 1800s and early 1900s. But, yeah, these people are having weird death. that looks similar to the monkey experiments that Elon Musk was doing. Well, I wouldn't be surprised because this is what they've, I mean, 50 years ago, 70 years ago, they were doing this already, putting electrodes in patients' brains. They were using people without their consent.

Like they'd go to psych ward hospitals, prisoners, kids. There was this one doctor, his name was like Andy, O.J. Andy, not Simpson, O.J. Andy. And he was like burning electrodes in burning holes in the, brains with electrodes of three-year-olds, four-year-olds, they don't, they're just monsters. I mean, this is like, trust the science. Yeah, he's just right. Musk is just like another, you know, one of the new brain doctors of today. This hasn't, this research hasn't stopped.

Yes. We've been doing it for a long time. And it's just continued. And they've just used, yeah, whoever they think is like an expendable human, they can get away with it. Yeah. They'll do it. It's really disgusting.

Great episode, Shannon. And glad we could fix the sun problem. Thank you. I was really pissing me off that son. I'm sorry. No, don't apologize. It was an actual great episode. We thoroughly enjoyed our conversation.

One more time, tell them where they could find you. Yeah, Wi-Fi-Hifine Refugee.com. It's a Wi-Fi Refugee with a hyphen in it and all my books and podcasts and blogs, all there in one place. Yeah. So, and you can hit me up for a sign copy if you're in the U.S. I mean, I'll do international, too, but you're just going to have to pay for shipping. Respect, respect. Thank you so much for coming on.

It was a great episode. Thanks so much. Anytime all the time. Let's break down the episode. What did you guys think of Shannon Rowan? Our new BFF. Yeah, I love her. She reminds me how often we need the EMF coverages and all that stuff.

Sometimes we forget about it. We're going to get into that because we actually have an affiliate if you guys need it. I thought it was great, man. I thought it was great. I mean, she hit on all my favorite subjects. And, you know, it's like she's walking the walk. I mean, how many times do we talk about something? We just go back and do it anyway.

You know, it's like, here it's like, nah, dude, I'm off the grid. I'm away from all this crap. That's a good point, yeah. You know? I mean, she just lives off the grid. I mean, she obviously has Wi-Fi because she uses computers, right? Well, she's probably hardwired. Hard-wired.

You can hardwire that. I mean, we're hardwired. Yeah. Yeah, hardwire that shit. But anything else is just chaos, dude. And it's just, everything is demonic. It's all Luciferian-Malachian fucking chaos. And they're just trying to make us so sick and dumb that we can't even participate in our own lives.

I mean, she's totally right. Like when we're talking about remedies, like they're killing all that knowledge. They're killing all the knowledge. Yeah. It's actually ridiculous, dude. real quick if you go to samtriplea.com bro big dates coming the end of my month

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Listen, I thought she was great. I mean, she obviously gets it when it comes to viruses. I love that shit. It's one in my favorite discussion, because people just can't come to grips with it. That it's, I know this is a dangerous conspiracy. What do we got to say to? Harmful conspiracies.

But I think I, that, if you saw a new conspiracy podcast, you should call it, harmful conspiracies. Harmful, harmful. I think it's important to understand that, that, you know, the, you know, like Joseph P. Farrell, Dr. Joseph P. Farrell said, the head of snake is the Bank of International Settlements and is funding the false reality that is being projected in God's reality.

And I love when really smart people who wrote like a thousand books come on and say what I've been saying to you guys forever. It just makes me know I'm on the right track. And it's just the truth, dude. All this stuff that you're watching, like, God, the episodes have been fire lately, dude. this show's been fucking fire. And, you know, as we roll up to the end of the year, we got a couple weeks left. And then daddy takes us three weeks off.

He dreams about starting in July. And then as we get to the end, we're going to add the big 1,000 episode. We're trying to find a place. I hope you all can come and join us. We'll have a party after. Hopefully a couple babies will be made and we'll have little three-full-happed babies. Yeah. Right?

Maybe we'll do what my friend, you know, Darksmith on Conspiracy Social Club. He runs a cruise. They had a crime cruise and just somebody decided to set up an orgy room. Yeah, they just had orgies on the cruise bus. Maybe we'll do that. What's in there, orgy room? You got to want to bring it.

Don't know if I want to go to an orgy with a bunch of people who just study sex murder all day. You know what I mean? Yeah, you know they put out those chicks. I'm going to ask them about terrain theory of refurb. I go in that orgy. Hey, how many people believe in terrain theory?

How many of you guys don't believe your herpes exist? Johnny, shut the fuck on. Not going in that room. All right, guys, enjoy the highlights.

Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. Did you see this? So Tucker had peers Morgan on and just kind of went a little funny. She texts and describes the man. Now,

remember we talked about this story. Again, this is Owen Benjamin's prophecy of like, where we're getting to. We talked about the story a couple weeks ago. This woman who was attacked and she called the, physically, right? Physically, yeah. When we called the, she called the guy in a text, the F, double G. Yeah. And then she got in trouble for that. Okay. Which is absolutely ridiculous.

Like could do jail time. She got arrested. She's arrested to the hospital as a quote, she's arrested and convicted of a hate crime. The guy who beat her up is not arrested or convicted. By the way, you're like to be homophobic if you want in a freak. country. You can have any view you want. Yeah, that's the whole thing with this whole hate speech. Like you, you can hate people. You're not a lot. It's legal. You're totally illegal. When you act on it, that's the problem. Right? Physically. Yeah. Right? And this guy physically attacks his chick. And then she calls him the F double G and she's in jail. Like, when's the last time you heard of them teaching in school or the children sticks and stones, dude? No, they don't. That was fundamental to our childhood. Johnny, the theory of

It's why California is in the shitter because the theory of hate is worse than real world consequences. But that was, wasn't that a fundamental, like, virtue when you're a kid? Like that's like a, like a value, right, to learn. Hey, Stix and Stones. I don't remember. Going to teach it to my kids. And it's just gone. You don't hear it ever.

Case was not. That story. By speaking of Sticston's, I'm watching Ken Burns has the American Revolution. And I just started it like right before I came here. And the first five minutes is like, yeah, the end. Indians came up with democracy before. Like right away. It's like Benjamin Franklin came up with this idea of, you know,

this colonies banding together that the Indians already came up with. And then it talks about the Indians for like five minutes to start the American Revolution. Yeah, somebody, they've been teed off on that guy. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, he got so much shit for the American, the Civil War one, like by modern people,

you know, it's a 90s thing that, that he felt, I think, that he had to bend over. everything. Well, I don't know that story. Would you say the word f*** it on camera? No. Why? Because I... You don't want to get arrested, do you?

It doesn't want to be arrested. Because it's so harmful to people? Actually, my whole issue with the whole trans debate, for example, is you don't need to say drug-try stuff about trans people to make the point that women's rights should be protected. Oh, I agree. So, so what, I don't believe... No, but it's a magic word. I don't believe it needlessly smitten...

I'm not smearing anybody. I just think... But would you use that word? Yeah. I just did. And I'm using it because you're not allowed to because you're. I'm allowed to go ahead. This chick just got arrested for it and convicted.

They're making me want to say that because it's so outrageous that you would Here's my problem with words is we have this rule to protect these people and the people the rule is meant to protect violate the rule constantly. So it's not a real rule. It's just a way to tell white guys to shut the fuck up. And it's like this bit I'm trying to work on that will never work because you just

people can't go there. It's like everybody's racist. This notion that one group is racist. And by the way, if you want to watch why some white people are scumbags, not all white people. And this is every group.

And this is where you get into the nuance of it. It's like an entire group is not scumbags. It's always the people at the top that are scumbags. Look at what the British and the French did to the Middle East. Pure white people, scumbag shit. So when you go white people are fucking colonizer scumbags, there's an argument for that. But it's not all white people. That's the big problem. You're doing these broad strokes on everybody. Go to Appalachians and tell me what kind of white privilege those people have. They have none, but we have to group everybody together

because that's how you create culture wars, okay? But to sit there and go, oh, you can't say this word is laughable when the group that you are trying to protect by creating that rule violates it on a daily basis

like water flowing over a waterfall. I mean, dude, I can't tell you how many gay comics I hear say the word faggot, dude, all the time. And it's a little bit. hilarious and it's funny and who cares? What? YouTube.

They care. I'm writing down the time. Okay, because I was about to drop an M bomb. I don't want me to do a double work. But yeah, I'm already here. Okay. And then you got black people saying nigger constantly and everyone's like,

oh my God, it goes back to why he said earlier about Lucke, who's fucking one of the greatest comics all the time. He was allowed to do these jokes that the industry wouldn't let 99% of people who look like fucking. and Louis C.K. Say the jokes. That's my problem.

If you give me a hard rule, obviously, Ari Shafir is an exception of this, but it's like Jewish people with the K word. You don't hear Jewish people calling each other kikes. No, you never hear that ever.

Ever. That's why you got to respect the rule. But outside of that, it's all bullshit. Yeah, yeah. Props to the Js for their internal logic. It's like, it's so funny.

I post this thing. And it's this theory I have about like, if you really want to live in a proper society, you got to get rid of political correctness. So there's this picture of this kind of hot chick. And she goes, if you're being inclusive, understanding of blah,

blah, you've been conquered. And there's some real truth to that. Kind of what's happening with this story right here, right? But because she does this and she has a Jewish star right there. Oh, yeah. So everybody's like, oh,

she's a Jew. And I'm like, that's not the point of the thing, dude. Okay? Stop clumping everybody together. You do a disservice. It's the top versus the middle and the bottom.

All right, I got to go. Help me now. Let's have a moment of self-liberation. I think you'll be on. Hold my hand. We're going to say f*** together. You ready? No, we're not.

Do you say gay and . He's saying the R words. Tucker just thinks that's hilarious that he won't say a retard. Oh, dude. Dude, my bit about, listen, when I start my bit about retards, okay, the room is quiet. But by the end, they're fucking howling. Because no one calls special needs people, the R word, ever.

It's the R word, let me just say this. Our word is about fucking stupid assholes, okay? The F word, when it comes to gays, which they associate with gays, is about annoying bitches, being an annoying bitch. That's what you call the FWGs, okay? And the M word is the M word, dude. And most white people want to say it in the way they've been programmed by black culture, which is a term of endermint, endearment, endermint, endearment, okay?

Like, that's really what it is. Once in a while, you'll hear an M word said in the way that upsets everybody. Now you had this girl working at Sinabond. You see that? and a bunch of Somalians were sexually... If you'd like to hear the rest of this episode, subscribe to Broken Simulation

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