Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #973: The Fight For Los Angeles With Spence Pratt
Episode Date: March 13, 2026Spencer Pratt joins the latest episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli to talk about why he wants to save Los Angeles. He shares the story of the day his house burned down during the LA fires and how... that moment pushed him to speak out about what he believes is the city's decline. Pratt criticizes LA leadership, including Karen Bass and the Los Angeles Fire Department, while outlining his grassroots plan to restore safety, address homelessness, and give small businesses a chance to thrive. He says he's not trying to become a career politician—he just wants to fix LA and then get out of politics. Please donate to Spence Pratt's Mayoral Campaign: https://mayorpratt.com Please subscribe to the new Tin Foil Hat youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TinFoilHatYoutube Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/415fDfY Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Tuesday At 4pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now! Go to https://www.samtripoli.gold/ and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show. CopyMyCrypto.com: The 'Copy my Crypto' membership site shows you the coins that the youtuber 'James McMahon' personally holds - and allows you to copy him. So if you'd like to join the 1300 members who copy James, then stop what you're doing and head over to: https://copymycrypto.com/tinfoilhat/ You'll not only find proof of everything I've said - but my listeners get full access for just $1 Grab Tickets To Sam Tripoli's Live Shows At SamTripoli.com: Batavia, IL: 3/26-3/28 Raleigh, NC: 4/3 Atlanta, GA: 4/4 Hamilton, Canada: 4/16 Toronto, CA: 4/17-18 Dallas, TX: 4/24 Fort Worth, TX: 4/25 Austin, TX: (Live Taping Of My New Comedy Special) 5/22 Albuquerque, NM: 6/12-6/13 Austin, TX: The 100th Episode Of Tin Foil Hat 6/18 Lawerence, KS: 9/17-9/19 Tulsa, OK: 10/9-10/10 Austin, TX: 12/11-12/13 Please check out Joseph Phipps's internet: Website: https://mayorpratt.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spencerpratt/ Twitter: https://x.com/spencerpratt Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spencerpratt Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedy Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/%20P Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/ Please support our sponsors: Quo: Quo is the #1-rated business phone system on G2 with over 3,000 reviews, built for how modern teams work. That's why more than 90,000 businesses – from solo operators to growing teams – rely on Quo to stay connected, professional, and consistently reachable. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to Quo dot com slash TINFOIL.
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This is one of those type of weird, spiritual, God-type moments that they'll echo in my brain forever.
I was up in the middle of the night and I look out and the wind was so crazy that I thought,
oh my God, if a fire started right now, everyone would be dead.
Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about?
Global controls will have to be imposed.
and a world governing body will be created to enforce them.
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Drink from the fountain of knowledge.
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That's some interdimensional shit.
Wake up, Aaron.
This is a lot.
Only the beginning.
Dude, you just moved my mind.
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Very excited about today.
We've been talking about this guy a lot on all my podcasts.
I think he's very,
very important and we have
I believe we Los Angeles have a real
opportunity to infect change
to inject like common sense into this
Southern California and I'm so excited
that he's here. Please welcome what I believe will be the future mayor
of Los Angeles, Spencer Pratt. How are you?
Got chills. I felt that. It felt like
one of those clips from the future.
I'm very grateful to be here talking to your platform.
Shout out to all your listeners because they DM.
I got a lot of DMs.
You got to go out and tip by how.
I was like, okay, this is, when there's like a wave of things, I'm like, okay, I'm in.
That's the hat we gave you.
It's swarm.
They're called the swarm.
Because they show up in bunches, dude.
I mean, it works because I'm trying to engage with it.
You got to check.
You did your job.
here success, success swarm. So it worked. The swarm hit. Yeah. Um, yeah, I'm here to just get people
to wake up and make sure they tell 20 friends because I'm on due to this whole politics thing
in the sense that you get your ballot May 4th. You need to send it in the second you get it. Don't
wait till June 2nd. And that is how we win LA back and save it from this takeover is destroying Los
Angeles and California by voting. And you got to tell friends, you got to start, because I can't
reach all the people we need to reach. We got to get the people that have given up. They're done with,
they think, oh, it's cooked. The whole game's rigged. Voting, it's, it's, it's, it's rigged. It's not.
It's just everybody who thinks like a normal person is like, what's the point where we can't do
that anymore? And I get it because there's usually not a Spencer Pratt running. So yeah,
you're kind of right.
Like, what is the point?
But now is the time where we can take these people out of power and unplug these mechanisms
that have just been stealing our taxpayer money, destroying our quality of life and our
four to build the list.
And what they do is they just keep doubling down everything.
They don't even acknowledge we're the worst people ever.
But this time we're going to be better.
They just go, it's business as usual.
It's like romancing somebody.
Say whatever you have to do to get it done.
And then once you're in, just totally go back on all your promises.
I don't even feel like they romance us.
I feel like it's like a salt.
You know, I don't even, you know, when.
Yeah.
They literally smile and lie just straight to your face.
So, you know, the old days they would even pretend.
Yeah.
So that's why I kind of want to get into with you.
How long have you been in Los Angeles?
My whole life.
So you grew up here.
Yeah, yeah.
So you've seen some glorious days, man, of like L.A. was like, L.A. used to be the pretty blonde and everyone hated her because she was so amazing, right?
And it just seems like it's changed. It's lost some of its funk. And some of us, you know, I'm an old head, dude. I got here in like 98.
And, man, it was wonderful. There was a lot outlaw here. There's a lot of people pushing culture. And it was like it was just a blessing to be.
here was like we were kings and we didn't even realize it and it just seems different now and i think a lot
of it has to do obviously covid did a lot of damage but also like i just feel like the people who push
culture and and are the great artists aren't here as much they used to they allow them went to texas
a lot of them went to florida but do you feel like there's a change that's not the la you grew up in
the only reason I ever wanted to be famous,
whatever that meant,
was because that unlocked the next tier of the L.A. dream.
You know, I grew up watching what movie stars got to do,
going to the movie premieres,
and now they don't have any of this.
So I went to high school with Jonah Hill,
and I recently saw him.
He's as rich and as successful as you could be as a movie star,
and I bumped into it.
And so I'm like, oh, where are you living?
He goes, I had to move all the way to San Diego.
And I said, what?
Here is a movie star having to commute to have his own set at Warner Brothers.
And he doesn't want to live in L.A.
Like, growing up, he's the goal.
You get to that thing.
Yeah, right.
We all dream.
You're nominated for Oscars.
And he doesn't want to live in L.A.?
That was like, oh, my God, it's over.
If a movie star doesn't, can't even, doesn't want to live here.
No, I'm with you, dude.
No, it's not like it feels different.
It's gone.
And what I keep trying to tell people is it's red alert.
Because four more years of the same strategies, these same plans, it's so not coming back.
I mean, it's already, you know, getting Hollywood back is going to be a mission.
But the way I feel like you can do it is you first, you get the 40,000 people who get to live on the streets and smoke fentanyl.
You get them off the streets.
You get all the human shit off the street.
You don't have the streets smell like piss.
And then maybe Hollywood in the sense of the business wants to start filming here.
The show I was on that I was famous on the Hills, the entire show was just how beautiful Hollywood looked on tripods with good music.
You couldn't film that show right now.
I agree.
It would be impossible.
It would cost too much to clean the streets, remove the encampments.
The only thing you can film on the streets of L.A. right now.
now is the reboot of escape from L.A.
with Phil Russell.
And even now it looks worse.
Yeah.
Like, you go watch that movie and that actually looks kind of chill.
I would live in that neighborhood.
Which, is that Echo Bar?
What is that?
Is that Silver Lake?
Someone zillow that, dude.
We were talking about Saddle Ranch, how Saddle Ranch was a thing because people would get on the
bull.
We just went back because we did the comedy.
It's empty.
You said, you couldn't do that show anymore the way you could be.
It was just, it was a restaurant that was full of people and they just had cameras
walking around.
Listen, I moved out here when I was 25.
years old.
Sunset was absolutely insanity.
It was the Kobe Bryant,
Shaquille O'Neal years, and it was
bumping. I don't know where that is anymore.
I asked the young comics at the time,
where do the young people go to, like,
hit the bar scene? And they're like, I mean,
there's one over here. It's like,
Hollywood gone.
Sunset gone. Where is
everything? I just
did this conversation with this guy,
Seth in the city, and he covers restaurants.
that are closing, 100 restaurants have closed in the last year in L.A.
And that's what he's keeping track of that he knows of.
So not just Hollywood, not the nightlife, the restaurants.
And we're talking about community places, not necessarily, you know, the franchise type
restaurants.
When I was in the game back the day, seven nights a week there was nightlife.
And you had to pick which spot you're going to first each night because that's how
much.
Yes.
So with people I see TikToks with respect to transplants, they'll be like, who said LA's not popping?
I'm like, you guys are Martians.
You know, we are in the twilight zone.
I'm telling you, I, that's why I have the energy to fight.
So I can say if it's fully done for, I don't get elected, I can look back to my new state.
I'm going to live in Bentonville, Arkansas and say, son, there was this place and I'll tell the story.
but I fought till the bitter end
until I couldn't anymore
because once they burn my house down
I didn't have the
I used to be able to keep my shield on
I was in my bubble feeding my hummingbirds
holding all my magical crystals
and you know
I could play pretend
like everything knowing how horrible
but I leave my bubble let's be clear
I knew pretend as in I could hide in it
once you burn that away from me
now I'm like okay
game on now you want war you know you had me as a person you had me on timeout i was safe yeah
you burn my house you burn my parents house you burn my neighbors alive now it's war you're like
john wick with his dog why don't you mess with his dog people keep saying he did that for his dog
yeah okay i'm i'm like i'm a john wick reboot yeah we're way past i love and also i'm fighting for
dogs because now that I'm in this fight
I have all the dog rescue people
reaching out to me. They're texting me
every day different videos of dogs
getting mutilated on the sides
of the street right in public in
LA. The amount of dogs, Karen
Bass is killing records, amounts
in the shelter all day long
when they know that's what you need to run
on right there. You want to get
like, hey dude, they're killing
dogs. People go nuts, dude.
They are. They're not
just killing dogs. They're allowing
homeless drug addicts
to torture dogs, light
them on fire, cut their eyeballs
out, glue their mouth
Oh my God. Everything you can think of.
And then they protect these homeless
drug addicts who can't take the dogs from.
So these rescuers are having to come in,
swoop the dogs, and get them to safety.
What? Really? Because if you call the cops,
they come and say, they're like,
that we can do.
What's so wild is there's NGOs.
they give these homeless drug addicts,
these cards,
they say if they come,
the cops come and take your dog,
call this number,
and then they sue the LAPD
and they sue the city.
Yeah.
I'm not kidding.
That's the level of...
Dude, that is the craziest thing
I've ever heard.
I'm not kidding.
So, back to John Wick,
not only am I saving dogs,
I'm saving humans.
So when people are like,
ooh,
you sure you want this job?
I'm like,
are you kidding me?
Like,
I'm going to feel like an X-Man
once I get in there,
like the,
how imagine being able to use all this power for good and they said what are you going to do well first off
i got a list of 10 of the top rescuers that i put in charge of saving the dogs boom anyone in the city
that was in charge of dogs were you're gone so that's done i got the experts in there i just met
with this guy won this is from ecuador clean clean l.a with me his videos all day long he just
cleans the size of the streets in l. oh man can we help with that oh yeah he has a wish list and
he's emailed Karen Bass after she like played him out and they brought him in like oh we want to work
with you because he was getting so viral like doing their job for them he said he's emailed every day
almost for three weeks for trash bags no response dude she does that over and she did the flooding on
melrose every time it rains melrose floods and and they hired the city did these trucks that
are supposed to open the manhole covers and they made a big production she went down there and said
we're fixing everything the last time it rained nobody was in the trucks and it all
just flood it again.
Yeah.
She's,
she's got a long track.
That's the thing.
Now, I turned into like Yelp for the whole city.
So anybody has got a problem.
I'm well aware of what level it is.
And so what Juan was telling me is they just increased the trash, your trash fees to, I don't
$65, $7, $7, whatever the increase was.
And he said the budget to cleaning the trash is going to go to a billion dollars.
I said, Juan, what would you do first week?
I hire you.
I make you the new head of sanitation.
He goes, I fire everyone.
I go, what do you mean?
He goes, they don't care, Spencer.
You need people that care.
I bring in people that care.
He says, we can clean the city for half of that.
Easy.
And this is not some rando.
He's cleaning the city from sunrise,
the sunset, five days a week,
and on weekends for fun with his mingas,
where he, like, has volunteers.
So just there, I'm cleaning the streets,
saving a half a billion dollars.
we're saving the dogs
with just bringing in the right people
they again care
so when they say
well you have no experience Spencer
well guess what the people that supposedly
have experience
100% they don't care
so what I do know because I talk to
a lot of smart people and I tell them
that's what they say they go and all the smart
success really go you know what
and this company I had no experience
and what I do I surround myself
with the experience and that's
and how I have success and I'm
I meet with this OG head that I can't say who he is because of fear of retaliation,
which is real.
And he told me that Karen Bass had no experience to run for mayor of L.A.
and be second largest city, blah, blah, blah.
And he goes, what did she do?
She then surrounded herself with an entire crew of people with no experience.
He goes, what you do is you get the best people in the world to come save the city.
everybody once saved
but they can't do it
because they're all bought off
with the NGO scams
and the money
and the politics
I don't have any relationships
I don't have any big
fundraisers
backing me
I don't have one union
so that's the thing
when you make all these deals
to get the union votes
Mayor Bass
she probably can't do a lot of the things
maybe she knows she has to
because she made this deal
with union
and this and does that help that union
maybe the union boss
but it doesn't help then.
Angelino.
Maybe it kind of helps that union crew.
Maybe it helps some of those guys.
It usually doesn't,
but it definitely doesn't help all of Angelino.
So the edge I have on just going in with no,
I'm not a puppet.
Yeah.
You know, they're all connected to Geppetto.
There seems to be something in these Democratic cities
that just seems like suicidal.
And it just,
we've gotten away from,
common sense in so many different ways and just basic human decency is seems to be lost like
you know it's like hey i had a problem with drugs i'll admit it like and my heart goes out to them
we don't know what they've been through in their life but my heart goes out to them but you know
when i was doing drugs you didn't get to smoke meth on on the bus stop i remember i was i used to walk
my kids and this guy's just smoking meth and he looked at me and he got so sad because he saw my kids and he
sorry. And I go, I get it, dude. And we moved on. It like they need help, but like basic things like
smoking meth at a bus stop, which was never acceptable anymore. We need to get back to civility in,
in these, in these democratic cities. And it just doesn't seem like, like there's any effort to do
that. It just seems to be the most extreme policies that make everything worse. And, you know,
it's like we got California losing all these businesses. They're just moving out. And,
And Gavin Newsom's always like, we had the fifth biggest economy.
We got more Fortune 500 country.
They're all leaving, dude, because you've ruined San Francisco.
You've ruined Los Angeles.
And it doesn't have to be like that.
Just common sense.
Like, let's get back to civility.
I had somebody reach out to me that I grew up with any, you know,
Democrat.
What you know, if you want to put a label as a person?
They said, you want to win Mayor Spencer?
And I go, I'm winning it.
But yeah.
You just tell everybody that you can take your kids to the park, whichever park, because it's across all of L.A., without your kids inhaling fentanyl smoke.
Yeah.
He says, that could be your whole, you'll get elected.
Say there's no more secondhand fentanyl smoke at the park on the swing set.
Yeah, basic.
And then a woman came all the way to my signature signing on the side of, you know, Studio City.
And she goes, you want to win for America?
Yes.
what's the plan?
And she goes,
you just tell women
that as mayor,
we will feel safe
to walk on the streets
with our little dogs again.
We don't feel safe
being able to walk
our little dogs
to go to the bathroom.
So it's back to,
we say,
civility.
It's so beyond that.
It's basic expectations
of our safety
and our health.
As tax pay,
we pay all this money
and that whole argument
with the memes,
look at the weather,
blah, blah.
It's why we pay extra.
Okay, look at, let's go down from the weather.
The weather's in the sky.
And I can't barely see it because we're cloud seeding so much,
which they say is all good.
You know,
I try,
not going to bring it up.
You're on the right planet.
You know,
I'm just saying.
I just say,
it's helping the rain or something.
But,
you know,
if you look up,
you know,
that's the argument.
It's so beautiful.
Great.
But we're here on Earth,
and it doesn't look what we're paying for.
But,
uh,
yeah,
I'm just pumped up because I do feel that I appeal to Democrats.
I appeal to independence.
I appeal to conservatives.
I appeal to everyone when you hear my message.
The media will cut and pace it and try to do their thing and cook me.
But the more I get out here and talk, I'm just not a communist and I'm not a socialist.
And L.A. doesn't need a communist or a socialist.
Yes.
And Democrats got forced into becoming.
their party because it's trending and it's click baity and the ones that do the more hardcore stuff
like monday they get they get the views so now you get newsom trying to do it and go all yeah yeah
you're totally right so they do it but the real people driving to work trying to get a coffee
that aren't hardcore this and that's why i keep saying my message is not left not right
forward because if you keep doing this that's great we're not we're not going anywhere
That's great.
We got it. We got, we need some serious.
And the truth is that a lot of these progressives are leaving the, are leaving the state too.
And they're complaining about everything.
And we just got to the thing we got to do is, I don't know if you're Republican,
whatever, you're down the middle.
Um, we just have to convince them.
And it's like, it's okay not to vote for the people that have gotten you to the point that you want to leave.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I feel like there's this.
thing where like people will vote the same party even if they're getting mugged pumping $7 gas,
right?
Like it's impossible to get them out of that because the fear of what that they think that side
represents is scarier than, you know, having a gun in your face while you're pumping $7 gas.
It's very weird to me, man.
And at the end of the day, it's like, we just got to get back to common sense.
That's it.
Yeah.
So thank God.
The mayor's race is a non.
There's no letter next to my name or Mayor Bass.
Perfect.
So you should just see Spencer Rabbit.
No, you're not going to get jacked at the gas station anymore.
Yeah.
And I'm also going to fight Sacramento to release some of these resources we have in this shale and get,
we're going to stop doing the policies of the Bay Area.
The San Francisco dream is Los Angeles's nightmare.
Yes.
And I as mayor, I'm going to represent Los Angeles.
and if I have to catch flights to San Francisco
to just call them out, say enough of this.
We're done.
L.A. does not want to, we have sprawl.
You may can hop on your little whatever you do,
buy you can go to Google and do that stuff.
We got to drive around.
And no matter what all the, you know,
transportation people on X are like,
oh, we're going to build this train
and we're going to have this.
Right now that's not happening.
We need to get the gas down
and we need to drive to our jobs
and our dinners and it is what it is.
And, you know, it's just crazy to me because, you know,
you talk about lowering the taxes.
You have a certain side that just wants to tax everything.
And it's like, but don't you understand so much of that is going to fraud?
Like, just the numbers are staggering.
Like, Johnny, am I often saying $250 billion?
Is that the number that's coming out, California of like how much fraud is
they've discovered in the state over time.
I mean, it's an insane number.
We talked about it on cash daddies.
Minnesota was much lower than I thought,
but cash,
I mean,
California was insanity.
And it's like you want more taxes
that are just going to be stolen.
They've recouped $6 billion in fraud.
I know,
that's what they're just given.
That's the set in the price.
Here's this six.
We're going to throw you.
No, that's what,
and then people are saying to me,
oh,
what are you going to do different?
Oh, how about, like I keep saying, because I've now met with them five plus times, the whole team of the criminal investigations crew at the IRS.
They know all this fraud's going down in Los Angeles with the homeless industrial complex, but they can't open cases without one document for each of the thing.
Who's got the documents?
The mayor.
Oh, who's handing them over first week?
The mayor of that.
It's unplugged.
People will be so scared to run these.
these scams in LA with me with knowing that I got I'm going to give the IRS you guys want
your own room down the hall for you to check all these people are going to catch so many cases
they're going to leave they're going to go do the homeless thing in Seattle or somewhere else
because LA I keep saying as mayor no more profiting off of homelessness no more profiting on
drug addicts no more profiting on mental crisis if you want to have a charity NGO we're check
this bottom line is you're just doing that for charity
near 100%
it's going back into the solutions
not into people's salaries
and parties and events
and God knows what you know cars
no you're totally right
you're totally right 100
do you know that other states
ship their homeless of course
to California and California wants them
because that's just more money to ask for
this the scandals
some of these beds that they are
the beds, we're going to house a homeless person with bed, is $700,000 a person.
What?
Just this week, Google it this week.
They just announced California, L.A., we're doing this new opening a mental health
treatment center, $100 million grant.
Guess how many beds it says an article?
How many?
100 beds.
What?
Technically says 100 plus, like they threw it, so it's like 106 beds.
But it's like, what?
You know, these are the fanciest resorts in the world.
there's not a million dollar bed.
You know, I know that's like,
that bed comes with this doctor
and that's like, get out of here.
Get out of here, man.
And back to what you're saying
about the smoking meth.
Correct.
These people have problems.
I understand.
I've lived in L.A.
I'm well aware of drug addiction.
You know how you don't get people off of drugs
by handing them free needles?
Yes.
People come at me and they're like,
that's how you get A instead.
I'm like, well, they won't get that
because I'm going to be handing them handcuffs
and they can get the free needle of methadone or whatever they need to get off the drug in a secure facility
where we're going to provide actual treatment where you come off the drug
and they're going to be on IV or whatever with medical professionals.
We're not going to, oh, let's give them a free needle so they don't get AIDS,
but they'll OD three times and we'll spend 90% of the LAFD budget to come have our guys give them Narcon.
Is it Narcon or Narcan?
Narcan.
Narcan.
I don't want to know how to say it.
That's the point.
It shouldn't even be in my vocabulary.
So 40 calls an hour, the LAPD responds to,
are to homeless crackheads, no, drug.
You know, the language, you've got to be like, oh, no, go drive around.
These aren't, yes, there's sad stories with homelessness.
There's also monsters on drugs, punching kids in heads on the side of the street,
stabbing people, you know.
So you can't just.
worry about your term, oh, is un-howed.
There's also monsters in this.
100%.
We are going to, as mayor of L.A.,
we're going to enforce the law.
If you're doing drugs on the side of the street,
you're going to go.
We're going to go to jail.
If Spencer Pratt goes and smokes Fennel,
right now in front of LAPD, right now,
Ventura Buller, I'm going to jail.
Because I'm getting out of a car.
They're like, if they can make money off you,
you're going to jail.
The only reason they don't put these other
people in jail. Oh, how are we getting, who's going to pay for all the little? They're not paying tickets.
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So again, I understand drug addiction is an issue.
But we need to actually make it where the person gets.
off the drugs before they
we get and we don't just get them off drugs
and throw them. We need to have plans
in place where
you know for instance I was talking with Juan
Juan who's going to be running
clean trash right after you come out of my
treatment thing you can get a nice job with Juan
bang we got a half a billion for sure
in funding and we put people
that we're on the streets now
healthy sober and give them some help
a job of hope with Juan he has a great
energy to help clean the streets
something simple whatever it is but
it's not just
is we're taking people up the street, housing them while they're on drugs in this.
And then go back on the streets.
It's just.
It makes no sense.
And it's also, they've gotten rid of any resistance to getting drugs, meaning like, when
I was doing drugs back in the day, I would have to find somebody buy the drugs,
find somewhere to do drugs so cops didn't see me do drugs and then hope and pray, right?
And I'm not proud of those days.
It's just my history, right?
That's gone.
Like the city's, the city's.
giving you drugs, you can do it on the map,
you're not going to go to jail.
There needs to be resistance
and there needs to be consequences
because that keeps a lot of normies away
from doing it. The thought of being arrested,
the thought of going to jail. If that's not there
anymore, they're like, yeah, why not? I try.
I'll try. And then, boom,
they're gone. You ever been to Skid Row
during the day? Skid Row is
now Los Angeles.
Pretty much. Yeah.
Dude, it's in Hancock Park.
They have prostitutes. Every night
in Hancock Park.
Child.
Cigero, this child trafficking publicly.
It's worth living in.
And that's why people can even say,
oh, many people are going to fall you?
Do you have eyeballs?
You have eyeballs?
I'm the only one saying this is a nightmare, disaster,
trap.
These people, oh, Karen Bass was just on our news press conference last night.
And she's like, we have the record least mortality rate.
It's 10% down.
She's bragging about 10% less people dying
that shouldn't even be.
be on the streets dying period she went into office or her campaign i'd like to see those police records
on what they labeled all these these deaths as like all cooked yeah it's all i don't know
looking anything they're saying out loud is pure life yeah yeah yeah yeah like i have relationships
in the sheriff's department lapd they tell me just the major incidents that don't even get to your
local news weekly that it's mind-boggling but she'll brag about oh i've removed 1,500 people
from the streets which that's not even i don't even agree no you didn't but she doesn't say
1,300 are dead you know they're in the grave and she went into the office as mayor saying she was
going to remove 15,000 people from the street that has been since taken off of any of her websites
you can go on the way back time machine
find where she says that.
So she'll brag about 1500 when her goal was 15,000
and there's 40,000 plus.
And that's the made up.
Everyone just drives around like,
one, two, three, five, six,
you know, self-counting thing.
Let's do a counting day.
And then when she says she's removing encampments,
we've removed, ask anyone in those neighborhoods,
they remove it down the block.
They clean this part and it's two blocks down
is now the encampment.
So again, as mayor, no more encampments.
No one is legally sleeping on the streets in L.A.
when I'm mayor, this period.
How are you going to do it, Spencer, enforce the law.
And what that entails, that's the law.
It's illegal to go to the bathroom on the sidewalk, poop and pee, smoke fentanyl, do all this, torture, daw, everything that's happening is illegal.
So when you say, how are you going to stop it?
The same thing that if I do anything illegal, that those consequences are coming at me fast.
You brought up a great point.
They don't throw the homeless in jail because they can't find them.
There's no money in it.
That's a brilliant point.
I've never even thought about that.
I've never even thought about that.
So let's get into the origins of this journey, which is the L.A. fires.
They were traumatic.
It was insanity.
I remember flying back from a gig, driving from L.A.
to the valley. I was on the 405. I look over. I thought I saw Mordor. That's how much fire and darkness and
chaos was over there. I tried to take a picture from my buddies because I'd never seen anything like it.
So why don't you start from the beginning? This fire breaks out and what happened to you? What happened to your
family and your house? And when did you decide that I got to do something? Because you were famous before,
but I feel like you blew up off of this,
this whole fighting city hall on what happened with the fires.
So January 7th at, you know, 10, 20 in the morning,
I just been up for like four nights.
My son had pneumonia.
And what's interesting,
this is one of those type of weird, spiritual God type moments
that they'll echo in my brain forever.
I was up in the middle of the night,
just checking it.
There's 105 checking a seven.
And I look out and the wind was so crazy that I thought, oh my God,
if a fire started right now, everyone would be dead.
And to this day, it trips me out that, you know, I've lived in this, that house for like nine years.
I've seen lots of San Ana winds.
And I never had that moment where I was like, oh, my God, everyone would just die if it kicked off right now.
So now it's 10, 20 in the morning.
The winds have chilled out no matter what Newsom and Karen Bass.
and the ops will say there was no hurricane winds in the Pacific Palisades on January 7th.
Late at night in Eaton, which is so far from the Palisades, there were hurricane winds.
They merge those together to have a reason to say, nothing we could do, blah, blah, blah.
So yes, there was wind.
It never got past 40 miles per hour.
But for the first six hours of the origin of the Palisades fire, they get peaked at 27 miles per hour or something, whatever.
So I'm drinking my espresso, dancing,
look what you made me do with Taylor Swift,
doing my little bit on Snapchat, my ritual.
And I see the nanny that we just finally got
because she'd been out of town
and I got a break for a second.
And I was like, here's the two-year-old.
Like, get away for me.
And so she runs up the arched hill behind the house
and I see you're running down the street
with like the baby and then the stroller.
And she runs in.
She's like, the workmen up the hill.
So there's a fire.
We should get out of him.
And again, I'm from L.A.
My whole life's been in the Palestinians.
I'm well aware.
Fires.
My best friends just fought there fire three weeks before in Malibu.
This is, so I'm not panicking.
I'm like, oh, let me go check this out.
So I hike up.
Sorry, the 40 pounds of Armenian food.
Dude.
That will do it.
That will do it, Jim.
So, you know, shout out, S.O.
And so I go up there and I check it out.
And I Snapchat, just like, smoke.
coming from Topanga State Park because my house connects to, you know, the back is Topanga State
Park. And I see it. I'm Snapchat. Like, oh, shit. Like, dang. But I'm still very confident in,
you know, it's 2026. I pay all this money. I'm broke because I pay all this money in taxes.
Like, when does the Arbada arrive to, you know? And I live next door to the Palisades Reservoir,
which has six million gallons of water. The fire department's always doing drills on my street. It's
so annoying because I got to move my car
can't get out but I'm like you know I'm like
thank God this is where they train right right so I'm
waiting for them to show up
and the flames just keep
coming keep coming so I call Heidi I'm like you
should go evacuate get a little
overnight back go to my parents house
which is two miles on the other
side of the palisades closest
to the beach where on the hill they're on
the bluffs overlooking where
Baywatch used to film
and so she does
that and then my older sister
calls. She's like, why is hiding the kids at mom's house? I'm like, what do you mean? She's like,
the fires jump from Temescal. So it's now coming sideways. So I'm like, oh my God. So I start
thinking, I got to grab some stuff, but I'm still so confident the idea in my brain is
the fire department drops the retardant, the water on the hill. I've seen this done. I just watched
it happen a few years earlier on the Getty fire that I was looking at from across the car.
the hill so I'm still not packing for my life grab some Heidi merch shirts to
have some pairs of shorts like 12 crystal necklaces and you know thinking well I'll be back
soon that you know this just you know I should have would have could have I should have stayed
because everyone I know stayed saved the house whether you're a 90 year old man oh really if you were
anyone who stayed pretty much that I talked to save multiple houses
So the lesson is, if you're an able-bodied adult, have plans, and you, you know, that's a longer story.
But so it's now five o'clock.
My dad shows up.
He's got the garden hose.
We're hosing.
Finally, the flames are like, like, okay, this isn't going to, the water's not really coming out at the level of a garden hose.
Again, if I see you have a plan, get your own real hoses.
If you have a pool, anyone that has.
a pool needs the generator for the pool pumps.
And if you do want to leave, have the generator with the pool pumps connected to the
industrial sprinklers.
So there's plans now that I'm well aware that we can do better than we did.
So I leave.
I watch my house burn down on my security cameras just as out of a horror movie.
But I can't reach my dad who went to his house to try to save his house.
So I'm now fearing for my dad dying.
so I'm mentally not emotionally connected
to the cameras burning the house
which is actually positive
because I'm not thinking about that
but the negative I think my dad's dead
so I call 911 well first I call the fire department
direct line down station 69 say
hey what time you guys coming up
to where the state park connects to this whole community
and there's just one area of dead brush
that you guys don't maintain
you need some water on it no no
nobody's coming, no assets are available.
I was like, oh, game over for that.
Okay. So then I call 911
because my dad needs help.
He could have passed out, fainted,
smoke, inhalation, God knows.
Oh, no emergency personnel are going out
area. I'm like, that area is like 14 ways
to get to, you know, I understand
maybe my hill, there's one way in,
there's a power line down. You can play.
But where my parents' house is,
is that suburban, it looks like
any, you could get in a million ways.
I'm like, no emergency personnel to go see if my 75 real dad is falling, can't get up.
Like, he's hitting the button, you know.
I'm falling.
I can't get in.
Yeah, you can't make this out.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
So finally, he got out.
His house burns down.
And they're just telling you there's no one available.
No one's available.
No assets.
Done, click.
You know, I've been trying to get that police call from Ponce.
public records request for 14 months.
They say they don't have the records.
You know they do.
I want to post that audio for people to hear and it should haunt them.
Because this idea that we have in government, the big brother, we can just let them save
our lives.
When it cracks off, they will let you burn alive.
They will let your house burn.
They will not.
People need to wake up as Americans, like it used to be OG America, and we need to have
some responsibility.
for ourselves.
And that's the takeaway.
But after all it's going on, I'm in shock, trauma, lost everything.
We had California Fair Plan because we got dropped by farmers.
And anybody that knows about insurance, it's the worst thing on the planet.
So I know we're done.
We put all our money, everything we've ever bought since we got married,
it was into this house, no matter what it was.
This was our inheritance for our two sons.
And the odds that my wife's...
album from 2010, the 15 year anniversary of it was January 10th.
So the house burns down January 7th.
I was already like working on some remixes to try to promote the 15 year anniversary.
So I'm getting emails in my thing.
I'm like, oh my God, Heidi your albums.
It's not going on TikTok.
I'm like, anybody stream Heidi's music?
We need this money.
Like da-da-da.
And it goes number one in like 12 countries.
She's the first album from 2015, from 15 years.
earlier, whatever the stat is, to chart in the top billboards, number one, Billboard Dance,
number, just crazy stats.
So that was like, yes, Heidi, this false sense of, you know, I think I'm oldish.
And I'm thinking music makes you rich from back in.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're going to buy a new house.
We're buying a house for my parents.
My mom's crying.
I'm like, Mom, I'm going to buy you a better house.
Heidi's number one on iTunes in seven, 12 countries, whatever.
Heidi's just like trying to get the kids in new schools,
not even in my, you know, I'm not sleeping.
I'm just drinking margaritas,
living at the Mexican restaurant.
Just like, come on, we got to beat bad bunny.
You know, just in like, in a trance.
So when I finally come out of it and we make $150,000, which is a miracle.
I'll never not be thankful for it.
But that was when I was like, why did my house burn down?
And then I, now,
I'm like, I'm suing everybody.
So the weirdest part about life is my childhood best friend,
his dad was the goat attorney growing up.
I went to Europe on their, you know, like movie scene,
James Bond level attorney.
Like we're in Turkey and all these crazy countries.
He's meeting with whoever these people are.
I'm like, whoa, this is some movie scene?
Yeah, dude.
Who knows, you know, who these people are?
International level, goat attorney.
And like a week before, randomly,
my like next door neighbor from one,
two houses down.
His daughter is marrying my best friend.
I'm at the wedding.
And I joke to him because he tells me he just represented
400 houses against Edison for the
Woosley Fire. And he's telling me about
just him. He's like
who's the dude from Lamb Man
before he's Lamb Man. He's the lawyer.
Trying you watch Landman?
Yeah. Billy Bob Thornton? What was Billy Bob Thornton
and when he's the lawyer?
Goliath. So he's a real Goliath.
So I'm talking to Goliath. I'm like,
Heidi, how dope would it be to have Mr. McNulty be your attorney?
Cut to three weeks later.
I'm calling him McNulty, who we suing?
So now I got the goat attorney.
We're suing LADWP.
We're suing City of L.A.
We're suing Newsom in the State Park.
And that's what once I get connected with all the lawyers,
I started learning everything about what went wrong,
all the emails that, you know, LADW, all the lies,
all the mismanagement.
And now I'm like on my full Chinatown, Jack Nicholson, I'm taking down the system energy.
And so I've been doing that for, it feels like now 14 months.
But in that process, you know, I fly to Washington and I meet with the head of the DOJ
because I want them to investigate the fire aid scam, the 100 million, they stole.
That is the craziest shit ever.
I mean, the level of psychopath to steal that money.
is the biggest fuck you I've ever seen in my life.
It's mind-blowing.
And, you know, these are, a lot of these people are rich progressives who, you know, supported
Karen Bass, are the backbone of Gavin Newsom.
And whenever he runs for anything, they run with money, they run with, you know, they're
doing ballots, they're doing, they're getting people to sign this and sign that.
They're basically his machine.
and for them to betray that area is so insane to me.
Well, here's what I've learned.
That area, here's what people keep thinking.
And I try to keep telling people,
the Palisades was not all rich, famous people.
The Palisades had generational wealth.
When I say that, I mean, the old person that was had an old person
that was an old, grandpa, grandpa,
they're passing down the single family,
home inheritance that some of them had the grandpa still in there, the grandma.
That is a huge chunk of the palaces.
The palisades became a lot of rich and famous people in the last six, eight years
when Crusoe built the village.
Property taxes are skyrocketing.
But all these people that are supposedly rich palaces, their only wealth was in the
house that just because of property.
They're not, they can't leave that house because this is their world.
They're old.
So the fire aid scammer people,
they're not connected to the palaces.
The rich palaces people, their houses didn't even burn down
because they stopped the fire,
Chief Garcia, from the U.S. Forest Service,
who never shut down his air squadron,
whatever they're called, unlike Newsom's Cal Fire,
that went down.
So the U.S. Forest Service actually saved all of Brentwood
and the really wealthy part of the palisades out of Malfi.
So the true people that you think,
they don't care about those people
because they, those, they're still there.
That piece is there.
So that's a missing piece.
So I go to D.C.
to meet with the DOJ
because I'm like,
you better open cases.
I meet with the IRS.
Then I meet with Senator Rick Scott
and Senator Johnson.
Because I'm like,
we need to open a congressional investigation.
Because when you see the movies,
the only way you see in a movie
where you go to Washington
and all the, everyone's yelling at people.
The way I'm seeing it in my head.
I'm like, Karen Bassi is being Washington.
They're going to be yelling at her.
And so that's going.
That's all that's in effect now.
So that's a real thing that the truth will set everyone free.
And I still now, for what I've helped discover,
is that Karen Bass obstructed justice by altering the after-action report.
So I may end up being the mayor because she's going to go to jail.
I keep telling people, all of a sudden they show up.
with the handcuffs like they did with the school LAUSD guy last week. Nobody knew. And then boom,
they raid his house. I'm still waiting. I think it could happen because the evidence is there.
They're not sending over those documents to the congressional investigation. But that doesn't matter
if the DOJ subpoenas those documents. So, okay, back to the fight. What I keep learning is no matter
what I expose, I find out whistleblowers come to me and tell me, I post this.
this information, the corruption, the fraud, the negligence, business as usual, lies, lies,
lies, cover-ups.
And then finally I said, okay, the only way to stop these people is to take their power.
And that's why I was forced into becoming a politician.
I don't want to do this.
If I could have just got her in jail where she belongs, I wouldn't even be sitting on
this podcast, probably.
I would just be chilling.
Did someone approach you or did this, was this your idea?
Oh, it's all me.
I wish somebody with a lot of money and I had like a wizard.
to Oz and we can don't worry my uh public fundraising comes out publicly in a couple weeks you'll
see no one has approached me you know what I mean no we're gonna get the word out man that's how
you see the game she has three million plus already just for the June 2nd date I may be at
maybe at 150 and I don't mean 150 million which I should I should have you should have it everybody
in this town should give you a dollar I say throw your your smoothie from airwine take a day off
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I don't, again, I don't want to do this.
They forced my hand.
And again, once I do it, I want to get out.
to just be the hero, saves LA. God forbid I have to run a back because everyone's begging me like
four more years, Mayor Pratt. I could do it, but I would hope that I make such a point in four
years that nobody will ever allow. They can see like, oh my God, the curtains pull back. This has been
just what's been going on. I just can't believe that everybody isn't just rushing towards you. I
just even no matter what political side you're on and what ideology you have.
I mean, this seems like, I mean, let's just not getting homeless, which is horrible and
the corruption.
I mean, this fire thing, it's so obvious what will happen that day with that crazy call.
I'm going out of town for two days.
I can't tell you why.
You know, I love that call so much and I hope there's more to it.
But it's even, it's not even that.
It's more obvious than even we don't have to pretend what the call is.
We know that she cut the fire department budget by 17.5 million.
Chief Crowley, who she fired after she told the truth in her lawsuit file the week ago.
You can read it.
She says she told Karen Bass that Angelino, so if you're like, oh, I don't care about the
Palisades, she tells Karen Bass, Angelinos will not be safe.
So it happened to be the Palisades.
Could have been the Hollywood Hills.
Could have been Sunland.
Could have been anywhere you see a lot of dead brush around your neighborhood,
which is everywhere because L-AFD doesn't have the budget to clear your dead brush.
The state chooses not to because they protect plants over people because they're lunatics.
Yeah, they're a lunatic.
They won't take down plants because they want to protect them?
Milk, Vech.
You tell me for $1 million cash, anyone listening, and if you do know what it is, you're one of the ops.
So you shouldn't even listen to this podcast.
But if you know what milk vetch looks like or why we would protect it over humans burning alive,
and this is a real thing.
And so these environmental policies, I can stop it because as mayor, I can literally tell my L-AFD chief,
hey, you want to keep your job?
You better go to every community that the state parks dead brush 60 years of dry,
Like, surrounding right up to your people's backyards.
Go clear 300 feet now with your with your dozers, which would cost just the palisades alone.
I talk to the head of the dozer people to clear the full firebreak, 300 feet all around the entire palisades in the state park, $250,000 day and a half's work with dozers.
So you do that, all these communities.
And I'll tell the new governor, because, you know, when I'm mayor, I'm sure.
Gavin Newsom won't even be in the state or the country, so I won't be able to talk to him.
So the next governor, I'll tell him, look, I'll see you in court because your plants that you're
protecting with your policies, they're risking and dangering.
They're endangering my Angelinos that are burning alive because I'm, let's go to Supreme Court.
Or I'll just keep fighting in court.
We waste all our money on dumb things in court if saving lives and all these billions of
$250 billion of people's houses and businesses burned down and work.
We're going to worry about these environmentalists that have taken over our lives.
And again, I only need 300 feet.
You can have your milk vetch up the hill.
But three and you're going to be like, oh, erosion, it's holding the thing.
We're fine.
We're going to deal with the little mudslide or where we're going.
I'd rather have a mudslide than a burnt house.
You know, what they're going extinct, guys.
No, but what they say, what they say is what I always argue is climate change.
Okay.
I'm not arguing climate change. That's fine.
That's a different. We understand
the climate, let's say, we understand the climate's
changing. So we in 2026,
we're the fifth,
whatever Gavin Newsom says about California,
all this, we understand the climate
is changing, but we're going to just accept
that 7,000 homes will burn, 12 people will burn alive,
or are we going to prepare
for that climate changing for those dry
conditions? You know what's interesting about Newsom?
He will brag, you know, go to Munich
and he'll say, look at the clock.
we have fire we have there's no such thing as fire it's 365 years oh yeah newsome then why does your
cow fire his main thing that he doesn't pose in front of the helicopters why do they have a seasonal
schedule answer to me that yeah because they go off there's fire season no because he doesn't want to
he's probably using that money to go to the first partner to go to dinner who knows but the money
that should go to keep the Cal Fire guys
365 a year.
If you're saying in Munich,
we have a full fire season.
The U.S. Forest Service, Chief Garcia,
the only reason Brentwood didn't burn down
is because he had all his planes and helicopters not down
because he was watching the public,
you know, I'll send you the documents.
Three months before January 7th,
they have this thing that shows the weather,
they track the dryness, the lack of rain,
three months before January 7th.
The entire area is bright red
of how dangerous it is.
So the idea that they didn't pre-deploy one asset
and Newsom will go on the press conference
with everything burning.
He's like, I pre-deployed Cowpar to Santa Clarita, buddy,
two hours away when you have minutes
to attack that ignition on a wind event.
Those fire trucks should have been pre-deployed
on the hills, especially.
Now we find out.
your state park let a whole hillside smolder from New Year's Eve all the way leading in to
January 7th. So we can talk about all the things went wrong on January 7th, but how I win
$100 billion plus against the state. Again, people keep going, I don't care about the
Palestinians. Do you realize you should care? You should care. No, because where does that
$100 billion come from your tax money? They will be negligent. Yeah. And
cost you $100 billion.
The CDLA's probably going to end up going literally broke,
going to need a loan probably from China,
whoever,
who's really running a book right now.
Because we're going to win the lawsuit
because it's so clear all their failures and negligence.
So you can say,
I don't care about the policies,
but they're going to affect your quality of life with their negligence.
So back to Skull Rock on Lockman, New Year's Eve,
eight acre fire.
They say, you know, the L.A.F.D. today,
the public spokesperson in LA Times,
she was like,
there's no conversation.
There wouldn't even have been a fire
if there wasn't an arsonist.
First off,
that arsonist case is probably
going to fall apart, allegedly.
Oh, really?
There's 30 witnesses
the ATF has a fireworks
on that hill
from testimony.
People who literally saw
like on that thing that night.
So again.
Wow.
But they will say,
oh, blah, blah, blah.
So eight acres.
they don't put it out.
They let it smolder.
The argument, what they said
until a whistleblower,
we can watch it in the clip.
We watch Pike,
who says on the second,
when they're pulling up the hoses,
he saw smoldering pits everywhere.
Just literal smolding.
We have drone footage
from a civilian,
I think from the second and the third,
the whole hillside,
the exact origin of the January 7 fire,
he has footage of the whole hillside
just smoke.
And they say, you know, for the last year, the cover up, they called it an underground fire.
That's how they got away.
They go on the news.
We didn't know.
I guess it's an underground fire.
20 foot deep in a root system.
Oh.
And then on January 7th, the wind was so strong at the exact time the wind hit.
It came up from the root system, 20 feet below.
You lying pieces of shit.
You know what I mean?
So what really happened is they walked away.
from an entire hillside in the state park smoldering, literally smoking,
and the state park reps, because in the state park manual,
it's their legal responsibility to close the state park
until it doesn't create a dangerous condition for their community.
What do they do?
These idiots ask the fire department to help them take dead fuel brush
and cover up the fire breaks that the fire department made from the day before.
And they literally go put the dead.
We have photos of this.
This isn't the case.
And they cover up the fire brakes.
And the fire breaks are from hand crews because ready for this?
You know how you make a proper fire break after a fire?
Personally, I would say that night you should have a dozer.
But you're not allowed to do state park rules to have a dozer.
That's crazy.
A dozer is literally like a bulldozer with a special rake on the front.
So when like Trump was like, I told Newsom to break, everyone's making fun of him.
Google dozer rake.
It's the biggest thing in forest, firefighting, wildfire.
They rake the dead brush and they make breaks with it.
So the state park does not let you use the dozers up there because of the protected plants.
So we have in the case, the fire department gets up there on New Year's Eve and they're texting and joking,
we know not to bring any dozers.
We know the rules.
So they're doing it by hand, hand crews, which is fine.
If you then don't put the brush back on, but why is it fine?
Why wouldn't we bring in a dozer, do 300 foot, clear the whole area, make sure
leading into a known, predicted wind event that we should have this place cleaned up?
You're risking everything.
Oh, no, these people are.
Why did they leave the fire smoldering?
That's the thing I don't under it.
What was their reasoning at the time?
this is where you play conspiracy you know i love you're all about it you know this there's people
who will message me all day long i'm not saying they're right and i'm not saying they're wrong
they will go to the lehina and they'll say spencer they know this happens and they know the outcome
is a net positive land grab so remember i told you all the property bingo you remember i told you
all the property is passed down passed down yeah you know what happens when properties passed down
passed down? You got to take a tax you don't look you can't just give it to someone right?
You know what people who the property tax from like say my parents house that they had they bought
in the 90s versus what it would be now in 2028 when it gets rebuilt? I'm not I'm not expert in property
tax I'll tell you right let's say it was 40,000 I bet it let's throw I'm going to guess it's
100 plus so now you have 7,000 houses that have these old
property taxes, boom.
So now that number is the craziest number for that era.
Now you also get to rebuild it however you want, which I've been fighting.
They have, you know, they want high density houses in these places.
They want apartment complexes.
They want seven-story things.
They want, and they say it's affordable housing, but only 10% is required.
So the developers, like, it's affordable housing.
5,000 pop five, oh, we have these 10, you know, so, you know, we don't get into the
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And they'll say that was never going to happen in the palaces.
What I tell these people that I argue with, you don't know what billionaires that run a state can do.
You don't know 10 years from now.
So don't tell me that the palisades will never have high density housing because it's not next to a certain transit thing or but you don't know that.
Yeah.
So I'm going to fight to make sure.
And I did.
And people will say, there's people that will say that they changed the SB 70.
and they created fire, danger, things.
So I did mine, you know, it passed.
And so technically I still believe, you know, that's a conspiracy,
but I still believe that one day that will continue to be a fight because why wouldn't people with money?
Isn't that what they're doing in Alameda?
They've turned it into a high-density area.
It was single-family homes forever.
And now they're turning into apartment complexes.
So back to this.
This was a great call I had before I came in here.
And I said, you know, I'm all for people being able to live affordable and this.
But I want to fight for what used to be the California dream, a single family affordable house.
Why am I fighting to build seven-story prison-like structures to stick people in this when I should be fighting to make everything more affordable, the lumber, the permitting, the process to get people back in single family communities?
why the people that they say,
well, minorities will never,
why are you saying that?
You're a rich person in a house.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why aren't you saying,
let's get minorities
or people with less money
to be able to have that dream
to have a single family house
with a yard.
Yeah, what are you saying about them?
So I'm going to pick a fight.
I'm going to pick housing where I want,
you know, they'll be like,
this is crazy, never, that's fine.
But I'll stay on the hill
where I love California
where people get a little yard.
I'll fight for more people
they'll afford that than a fight to get you in a prison seven density.
Yeah.
I mean, and, and, you know, the price of housing in L.A., everyone's always like, it's because
the weather is so nice and so beautiful.
Okay, I'll buy that to a point.
But also think about this, the higher the price of the house, the higher the taxes are.
And we're paying, we're paying property tax on a house that's maybe been overinflated on
its price, that's more taxes for them to commit tax fraud with.
I mean, it's just, it's, it's always like more taxes, more, the people who cry about
affordability are also the people, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about these people
I know that they want higher taxes and they cry about affordability.
Guess what?
If taxes are down, that's more money in your bank account.
You, you can have an affordable living if every, like, 50 cents of every dollar you have
whatever it is in California isn't going to the government,
which is just being siphoned off into their pockets or their political campaigns.
And it goes back to Sacramento and Bay Area politics and the rich,
I don't know what they got up.
They probably got a nickname,
but it's like the Bay Area Mafia.
All of these people that make the decisions,
these environmental policies that make it so our lumber costs more,
our gas costs more,
our freaking houses burned down,
because they're protecting plants.
It's all Bay Area politicians.
So back to everyone in L.A.
should be like, hey, we're not down
with this Bay Area, you know, Silicon Valley crew.
As they destroyed their own city, too.
I mean, San Francisco is annihilated.
But it's the people making decisions.
They're not even in the city.
They're on mega yachts.
They're on G550s.
The people really with the money and the power
that are making these plays,
they're not walking around with people pooping on the sidewalk.
So that's the problem.
The people saying, oh, you should have high density housing.
They're not in high density housing.
For instance, I know this one, I know this one Yimbi guy, major, yimbi activist.
He does, people don't know.
He comes from this rich family, and I see him where my wife's family is from Creston
this little town.
His family's got three huge properties.
All of a sudden, next time I see him in person, I'm going to say, why don't you put all of
these workers that can't afford to live in this town anymore?
Why don't you put him on one of your parents?
big properties that you spend your old summers here.
You're not in a little high-density house.
You're a fly fishing on the rant.
You know, so it's those states.
Rules for you and not for me.
Exactly.
It's these champagne communists.
And that's like-
Champagne communist.
I love that.
Yeah.
And so God forbid, only thing worse than Mayor Bass is the other person they put in to
try to block me who's a legit champagne communist.
People understand.
Who is that?
I don't even want to say her name.
Okay.
The commie lady.
The commie lady.
So the commie lady is a millionaire Hollywood husband.
She is a card member of the DSA.
Go look at the Democratic Socialist website.
Bang.
If you're a Democrat, you don't think like these people.
This is whole new.
Just rich kids.
This is.
And none of the things they do work.
Go try the, go look at these other countries that have these policies.
Why are these people coming here?
Yeah, dude.
So the idea.
that anyone, but they're so good with their little lingo and the talk, I want to, I want to fix
the, we're not doing right.
And we need to decide.
Lady, you've been in city council for how many years?
Why are you doing it now?
Why haven't you done it?
You're the head of the homeless.
It's all female city council too.
You're the head of the homeless thing for the city council.
So now as mayor, what are you going to do different?
Yeah, fell up.
Why don't you speak more?
So at a level of just scammer, performative politics.
And I just pray to God, people just wake up and everyone tells them, you've got to vote for Spencer Pratt.
You got, and just we get that ground swell where they never see it coming.
And then on June 2nd, I just win 51%.
I don't even have to go to November.
And it's just, whew, because I can do it.
I totally believe you could do it.
Well, there was that report that her internal polling said that you're her primary challenger, right?
Karen Bassett.
It's how stupid these people are.
You know, I, growing up, I love the Highlander.
And when this email went out to all her people, Karen Bass said Spencer Pratt,
all of our interior polling, he's our biggest rival, he's our biggest threat, blah, blah, blah.
I know they're just trying to raise money off me, but they don't get whatever money they got,
if I'm the Highlander, I just chopped like 50 heads, blue electricity is just like coming down in the clouds.
You know, like, what are you thinking, gassing me up more?
like, I am so pumped up already that I have to like calm down and like, I'm in bed,
just like trying to sleep and you're going to send that email out.
Like, you stupid idiot.
That's the best campaign for you ever.
Not even the campaign, my energy.
You know, it takes a lot fighting these people all day long.
So when you get that from the spirit, like the Holy Spirit kicks you like, oh.
And those are the signs.
Like, I keep telling God, like just keep giving me signs that, you know,
that I'm on the right track.
I'm doing the right pass.
And I was kind of emotionally drained
trying to get the signatures the other day
on the side of the street.
Did you come to the valley to do that?
I did.
Okay, I didn't see it because I was looking for.
I needed 500 certified L.A. City voters signatures.
And I turned in 930 just to make sure
they threw mine away.
But I was like, burn out that day.
I was like, oh.
And then my phone rings.
And I had to talk to this person,
in like 20 years
from the Princess of Malibu, my first show,
is David Foster, 20 Grammy goat.
And he calls like three times in a row.
I'm like, shit out.
This was wrong.
He never calls me.
I'm like, kind of like nervous.
Like, oh, did he read my book?
Like, what did he not like that I said in the book?
This is the truth.
You know, but so I finally pick up.
He's like, Spencer, why?
Yeah.
He's like, you can do this.
You have my vote.
You have my wife's vote.
You have, I know your heart.
You're spreading like wildfire,
which I thought was ironic.
And it was just like, thank you, God.
And then I called Brody because it's a step down.
I was like, you don't know who just called me.
He's like, I do because I just gave him your number.
He goes, this is crazy, bro.
He's like, could you imagine back in the day saying that Dave Foster is going to want you to be the mayor of L.A.?
And it was like, we're on a crazy timeline.
Let's go, bro.
So that was like one of those things that like the Highlander, these moments are like,
and then I was at dinner.
I was at dinner the other night.
and his famous director, movie star, and his wife come up to me,
and I'm not going to air them out because I want people to not be like I'm snitching
and then come around publicly, maybe eventually.
If they don't, I'll snitch in like a month.
I'll give him a window.
And they come up like, we back you, we support you.
There's a lot of people behind the scenes.
I'm like, like, who?
And then they name one of the biggest CEOs in the world.
And I was like, oh, you, like, for real.
So I follow the CEO's wife, who's a public figureback quick on IG, instant follow back.
I was like, oh, okay.
But that was one of those, if this type of person wants me in, that just shows the type of moves, I'll be able to make.
Right when I'm there.
You know, like, they want me to get in because they know what I'm going to do is going to help everyone.
And so, but they just can't do it because it's back to you can get mugged with the $9 gas, but gang, gang.
Blood Crip.
Yeah, gang, gang.
So, so, um, I, I know we can't keep you forever, but, uh, I want to get into, um,
the history of Karen Bass.
We don't have to spend a lot of time on it because, you know, you brought up
Democratic Socialists.
We also have, uh, how long we've been going, Johnny?
Hour eight.
Okay.
We won't keep you much longer, dude.
I don't know, but I, you know, her history is of a saboteur.
Like, she is what the Malcolm
Max talked about.
Not necessarily her
skin color, and also
I'm not, and this is Sam speaking, not Spencer,
the Unabomber talked about that as well.
It's like these, these liberals
they, you know, they act
like they care, but really they look down
upon you. And she used to
go to Cuba all the time, right?
Am I wrong? Because I've gotten a couple
things wrong today that you cleared up, but
from what I was told, she
every summer. She would go to Cuba
and listen to Fidel Castro talk. I mean,
That is dangerous.
I think she says, rest in peace, el comadent.
They blah, blah, blah.
It's crazy.
So, the mayor.
This is a great thing.
Last week I met, last week I, no, two days ago, I met with the rooftop Korean Tony Moore.
Yeah, Tony Moon.
Tony Moon.
Tony Moon.
So I just met, excuse me, I met with the rooftop Tony Moon.
Yeah.
And he was actually not a rooftop Korean.
He was in the parking lot.
The parking lot, Korean.
So we got update.
Make sure you get his book.
comes out in June.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We love him.
Yeah, he's great, man.
And because I wanted to ask him a bunch of about a bunch of things.
But one of the things I brought up, because everybody sends me everything, the New York Times
has Karen Bass quoted after the 1992 riots saying, thank God.
I'm paraphrasing, you can go read the quote.
We can pull it up later.
Thank God all the Korean liquor stores burn to the ground.
And he's like, she took that back or whatever.
I'm like, oh, I bet she did.
Yeah.
When she was running for office, she took that back when the terrorism brand
like doesn't help become, you know, a state.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Thank God they burnt down.
I mean, unbelievable, dude.
So that's the core of who we're dealing with.
And I keep trying to say, these are communists.
They tell you they are.
And so when people, they, when you hear that language, it throws people off like,
oh, he's, what's you?
Bolsheviks.
Yeah, like, do your research.
Here's what she said.
I can give you the exact quote.
She said, like a miracle, a large chunk of the liquor stores we wanted to close were burned to the ground.
She called it a miracle that the fire, the L.A. riots happened.
And those were the Korean businesses.
And he said at the time, black people were having issues with the Koreans because of a year before,
there was an incident with a younger girl in the liquor store and the old lady shop.
So whether she wanted them to burn down because on a race thing, we'd have to ask her.
And that's what I wish more journalists did.
Like, hey, we're looking back on, because if it's Spencer Pratt, that's the first question.
Hey, 40 years ago, you said, you know, they don't do that.
Is there a debate?
You're a May 5th on NBC.
What?
You're debating her May 5th?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
We got to see that.
Yeah, viewing party.
We should do it live.
Yeah, we should do it live.
But here's the problem with debating somebody like her.
I'll tell you.
Because I watch her.
Watched her yes or anything.
When everything you say out of your mouth is a lie backed up with cooked lie numbers,
it's like, I'm literally like, sure, liar.
You know, like, good story.
You know, like, it's like, it's like, it's like, you know, some saying,
or them saying L.A. is like, the most, the most, she just said out that car on the mic,
thank you, the most pristine city.
Like, what are you?
Yeah, like, oh, it's the lowest crime rate city.
in the country, you're like, what, dude?
What?
Yeah, when you stop prosecuting crimes, you don't get crime numbers.
No, people don't call because there's a 40-minute hold.
It's not even pros.
People just accept, like, for instance, my campaign,
my campaign team member on our campaign kickoff night, boom, smash and grab,
all the stuff taking out of his car.
Did he call, try to do a police, you know, no, this is like, what, to throw it?
That's the thing.
The numbers aren't even there because people are just like, whatever, it's iPhone, that.
You know, it all adds up, you know, but so many things don't even get called in.
Well, that's how it was in San Francisco.
We'd go do stand-up and on the side, it would say take your stuff out of your car because there is a chance that they might break in.
Like, they're giving you a warning as in like, don't leave shit in there.
People leaving their windows open in San Francisco just so that they can look and make sure they don't have it without breaking their window.
The guy Seth and City told me, because we were talking about nightlife.
life and he's like yeah i mean any club you go into now there's signs in the clubs and i would like
beware cell phone pickpott my clubs in l a lay you have to worry about your cell phone getting jack
why you're trying to dance like what is going on you when i first moved out here i called uh like
the first week like nine years ago and i moved out i'm from the south i moved out and called 911
because i saw a homeless person like looked like they were dead like you know and this to me that's like
that's fresh and new i was horrified by i called them and they just they just they like they
laughed at me on the phone. They were like, yeah, welcome
the LA. And then after that,
of course, you don't call. I mean, I've seen all kinds
of illegal shit. I don't call. And I would
if I was back home in the South. I'd call immediately
the police. So yeah, there's so much
massively underreported.
So yesterday I'm at Jiu-Nus
in this OG, like, buff
dude, that Blackbell comes up
to me. He's like, you're running from Mayor of L.A.?
I'm like, yes, sir. And he's like,
he goes, I was a
policeman in Cuba.
I saw the other side of the fence.
We cannot let these guys win.
Dude, that's it, man.
Why these guys come in here if it's so great over there where they have your policies?
It's just rich kids cosplaying freedom fighters, dude.
And they just need purpose in their life.
And not all rich kids are bad.
I have a ton of friends who grew up my,
the guy on my other show is the son of a major banker.
He's a great guy.
It's just like they get like it gets weaponized, man.
And they just want to scorch earth.
but then they get to a point where a lot of their policies,
and no matter what you say about socialist and everything,
no matter what they say,
a lot of their policies have been applied with disastrous results.
It's like, you've had your shot.
It didn't work out.
Let the adults come back in.
Also, let's rewind.
L.A. used to be incredible and it wasn't socialist.
Yeah.
And again, it was a Democratic city.
So it's not like I'm saying,
we can't have a Democratic city.
Go look at the 1996 Democratic Party Clinton, like manifesto.
If we had that right now applied to L.A., we'd be styling.
It would be the best thing.
Clinton, Clinton Democrats, they called them.
Whatever I posted it, I was like, this is it.
This is a dream.
We do this?
Yeah.
But so the idea that I'm saying something that's not what a Democrat would want.
So, no, what I don't want is what the communists want.
Yeah.
And it always gets the common.
And the problem is when things get so, they make things so unaffordable,
start sounding real good.
We're going to make this free.
We're going to give us, eventually this money runs out.
We're handing everyone free money.
We're going to keep tax.
This does not work.
New York's already going through that in New York City.
So it's like, I don't know how we're going to pay for this.
More taxes.
You're like more fraud.
When I hear more tax, I hear more fraud.
I was laughing so hard because I only know what I, you know, I'm not a Mondami expert,
but everything I thought was.
free, free bus, and then like this week all in a minute, he's going to charge parking meters.
I'm like, what happened to free?
Now everyone's got to pay to part of?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, what are you talking about?
Nothing's free, man.
So we're going to get $5 billion in parking fees.
So you guys thought he was going to give you money.
He's giving you money.
He's charging you.
So back to you stop the scamming from the billions that we do have.
You get that money back into the city.
Small business, you support them.
You don't overregulate them.
You don't make permitting.
so impossible.
You do this so that there's actually an economy again.
People won't be so desperate to be a communist because they're not going to be like,
I can't survive unless they got to take care of me.
Like, no, you'll have money again because it was here.
Yeah, I mean, a meritocracy.
Let's get back to it.
Give everybody a chance to compete and the best ideas win, dude.
Stop making it so the fee of entry is so bad.
Like, listen, I love food trucks.
I go eat the food trucks.
But when I see a food truck or a hot dog vendor outside a brick and mortar, I go, that's not fair to the brick and mortar that has to do all the fee of entry stuff.
Oh, no, the big drama that people fight me for that I think is just a back to everybody should have the same.
So small business restaurants, the mom and pop shop has to have all their codes.
They're permitting.
But Dr. Evil, zombie lady Barbara Ferrer.
just said that no enforcement of any food on the street for any public health thing is going on.
This is, again, Google Monster Lady.
So you're telling me these, again, you're like, oh, you're my, why would I not care about
these people whose this is their livelihood, have to do all these things to have their business open,
but somebody can just go right in their parking lot, no rules, no permits, old meat,
don't wash their, whatever.
And that's, we're going to not enforce that.
we'll go in and make sure they got their letter on their window.
What?
There shouldn't be allowed within 500 feet of a brick and mortar restaurant.
It's just not fair.
I mean, San Diego, the whole, like, gaslight district,
all these restaurants are going under because everyone's just buying hot dog vendor food.
And they have no regulations.
And you got all these, I mean, San Diego is going through their kind of Bolshevik view.
They got, they have like a, uh, a, uh, um, um,
garbage like committee
where these city officials
go around make sure your garbage
is put right in each can.
So they basically took the TSA to your garbage.
And then what happens is you have to keep feeding the beast.
You have to raise their budget.
Then they have more administrators,
have more employees.
And then it just becomes this giant monster
that it's impossible to slay anymore.
Glendale has this like,
this like vendor spot
or like once a week or something.
They all gather there.
which is cool because if you want those foods and they can't afford like a big restaurant,
I get it.
But yeah, they have this little spot.
I mean, look at Dave's hot chicken.
I mean, great story.
Started a little car outside of Kmart or a Target and then got a brick and mortar.
I'm fine with that.
That's the American dream.
But like to allow these people to step shop just outside of your restaurant where you have
all these regulations going on is just counterproductive to me.
Again, I am so simple.
with the way I think we should all have to do the same responsibilities and the same consequences.
So if this food place has to do all this stuff, this food place has to do this.
I agree.
They need all the same permit, you know, we can't, or then say, done, no more permit.
Let's just have, it's going to look like those TikToks where people are just sitting in bowls and handing you, you know, their feet.
You know, just, you know.
I've seen them all over.
Yeah.
But, yeah, it's just, I, I didn't.
pray to God, I can do this. Otherwise, it's so sad what's going to happen to L.A.
So tell us what are the, real quickly, what do you need from us? What are some dates we should
be looking out for? What can we do the help? So first off, obviously, if you have money or you know
somebody has money, this guy's got a ton. You go to mayorpratt.com. You click in the, I would think
maybe in the contribute there. Contribute, orange button. And you contribute. You can, the craziest thing
is it maxes out at 1800 bucks.
I don't know how Mayor Karen Bass
has $3 million right now.
Yeah, I think I know.
It's NGOs.
So I don't know that way they do it,
but I had a guy today because I want to give you $9,000.
I was like, I can take $1,800.
I'm like, huh?
Dude, they literally took all of the solar panel money,
sold all of it,
and put it into all of these political campaigns.
They literally sold all the money set aside
for solar panel and green energy was just taking it.
And I guarantee you spread all around the country for all these Democratic candidates.
I'm telling you, this is why this is so important, man.
We have to.
I love that.
Is that a book?
No, these are you can make your own signs.
I love that, dude.
Oh, that's cool.
But that hat you have on is sick.
Yeah, so I can't sell these because of this was given to me.
Dodgers.
But they may just be floating around the city soon.
We know.
I'll wear it.
But yeah, so contribute.
If not, votes are the most important.
We can beat them.
We don't get the money,
which I don't think we're going to get the money.
We need to like,
because in a perfect world,
I have billboards all over the city
with just the real stats.
I want a billboard on La Ciena of just human shit,
like a highlight reel of like multiple.
I got somebody you should.
talk to, dude. I'll tell you after. All right. So, because that, you want four more years of shit,
like, vote for bass or vote for Pratt, you know, things like just flashy. A vote for bass is a vote for
ass. A photo of Karen Bass and just like fentanyl needles like raining down. Like, I want to hand
out fake fentanyl needles all around the city. But when you open it up, it's like, yeah, right, idiot.
Like, you know, like, you open it up. You know, so things like this, I could just destroy
them with money but I don't have it so well we borrow just borrow you don't even have to give a lot you just to make one
give one open day goes viral you're thinking handing out a million I almost got we're gonna help you
camera magic camera magic May 4th your ballots get sent to the mail second you get it fill it out
Spencer pratt send it in the more ballots we get you tell your friends make sure everyone's registered
to vote yeah go on it's quick takes like minutes Google it how to register vote in L.A
And you just do it.
You get your ballot and you send it in 150,000 ballots.
I'm guaranteed going into November head-to-head with her.
And a higher number, I could just win.
We got to get you on Jimmy Door, dude.
I got to talk to Jimmy Door for you.
When's the debate against?
Is he a comedian?
He keeps me.
Yeah, he's got a huge.
We got a good size off, but he's got a mega off.
And you fit right into what he's been talking about, dude.
When's the debate again?
And what can they watch it?
May 5th.
I'll be shocked if she's going to have COVID or something.
Yeah, you're totally right.
New strain is going to draw.
Too much to lose for her.
I mean, no, because she just lies and goes like this.
Oh, you're a move.
Yeah.
He's doing the best.
He's a reality TV.
She's terrible.
And you're a communist.
It's over, yeah.
You're a communist.
You wanted Korean liquor stores to burn.
You said it was a miracle.
Yeah, yeah.
That's all you guys say.
What was the next question, sir?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, man, I'm on your side.
I'll join your group and we'll definitely get the word out.
Spencer, this has been great.
You know, you came in, you told us how much you were into this stuff that this show talks a lot about.
I mean, I've never seen it should.
I just know it's tin foil.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what I said.
And I used to wear a tinfoil a hat.
Yeah, that's what we were saying.
I didn't know if you wanted to get into that.
I mean, it was real, you know, they were, you know, I needed that hat.
Yeah.
I mean, they were bugging me, you know, I had to scams.
Oh, you did.
I got that too.
I was, you know.
I was proven very real.
There's lots of people like,
oh, he lost, no, no, no.
I was on, well, they raided my house.
You got to read my book.
So I was like, thought I was being, you know,
watched you.
And it ends up all of a sudden, boom,
police helicopters at the window.
I'm in the shower with the binger.
Like, whoa, am I dreaming?
Like, all of a sudden, like, yes, you're in the window.
And they raid my house.
Why?
They said it was a hostage.
situation, they arrest
or they put Heidi to detain Heidi
and I, they search the whole house
and then they come and they're like,
somebody like, right?
I'm like, was you get the hostage person?
They're like, oh, yeah, no.
Why do you have so many, so much guns
and ammunition in the house?
I'm like, excuse me?
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
I was like, I thought you were here
for the hostage.
Yeah, truly.
And ends up, my theory,
at the time, I had just flown
the head of the
rolling 60s
Crips and his crew
to a fight
because he was the music manager
to my fighter
and I got all these calls
for my agency
like hey all the feds
have been calling us
why you
you've been seen
with this guy
big you
and you know
all these other
affiliated names
and I said
he's the music manager
he was just
Nipsey hadn't even popped off
so he was
that's a crazy story too
no I mean not pop
like he wasn't even
famous yet at this time
So I had no idea who Big U was.
I was just like, oh, is the music guy we'd go to lunch with?
So in my theory, I think the feds at the time thought I was doing straw purchasing for ammunition and guns for the rolling 60s.
Whoa.
But what it ends up is I buy a lot of anything when I had a hundred suits.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I bought a lot of ammo because Heidi and I were running the gun range every three weeks or three days a week at L.X.
And it was way cheaper just like going through it.
quantity so it all worked out
and they apologized but I thought so my
whole like am I being
why who are these people like that's crazy so they were
for sure bugging
the shit out like I was sure being
watched so I'm the tinfoil
sometime yeah
that's amazing
Spencer Pratt thank you so much for coming on
we wanted we were talking
about it forever and you knocked it out of the
park you have our votes are you even allowed the vote
yeah of course okay then he'll vote for you for
The swarm.
We need the whole swarm.
The swarm.
We're going to get anything we can do.
And if you need,
when is the actual election?
We need to start winning May 4th.
Okay.
Like from May 4th to June 2nd, that.
No one's going.
Everyone's busy.
Let's run a fundraiser for you, dude.
Let's figure out if we could do a fundraiser for you.
Maybe at the comedy store, see if they're cool at that.
They've done fundraisers for other politicians.
Maybe we can do a fundraiser for you.
I'll see if I can get the right comic.
to do it who are smart and aren't idiots,
I would love to have them come down.
Maybe down the line if you're thinking like there's a time.
I mean, it's not going to be a bazillion dollars,
but it could be good money, though.
I mean, we can figure it out,
and you could have people sponsored and stuff like that.
But I'm throwing that out there.
If I could help you in that aspect,
I could see who's open-minded to it.
And I would love to help you.
We need all the help.
All right, man.
All right, let's break down the episode.
All right, what did you guys think of Spencer Pratt?
Glad Johnny made it happen.
Johnny made it happen.
You know, who really made it happen was the swarm out there.
Is there anybody else we would want them to do that before?
Yeah, that's what we were talking about earlier.
We were like, who else does the swarm need to get in?
Catherine Austin Fitz.
D. Emmer.
Comment her.
Who's the, I was telling Johnny the new Asian guy that's all over YouTube.
That professor guy?
Oh, yeah.
Mark's working on it.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
We got to pick one at a time now.
That's how it works with the swarm.
Because this one does to be directed, like a directed energy.
But Catherine Austin Fitz is my dream guest.
Because I love every time she talks.
See what you do, this is my move when I'm talking to people who may not want to, you know, may not be in the demo of our show.
I call it TFH with Sam Tripp.
I'm saying, hey, would you like to come on TFH with Sain.
You know, kind of like.
And then they're here, welcome to tin full hat.
Like, what's the name of the show?
Johnny, this was before you guys when off the grid Ryan was, um,
was booking the show, and he booked that Satanist guy with the weird eye, right?
Yeah, I know.
And we're talking to him, and he's like, yeah, you know, it's like, we're, you know, being on Tim Falahy, he goes, hold on, what's the name of this show?
I go, Tim Fallah, he goes, hold on, are you one of those crazy conspiracies?
I go, bro, you're a Satanist.
You worship Satan.
You look like Lord Voldemart.
You're on the show telling us how you're misunderstood.
and now you're having an emotional reaction to us?
Like, what are you talking about?
It's like on Twitter when this, like, this Satanist was like,
racist people need to, I go, I hate to tell you,
being a Satanist is worse than a racist.
I got called a racist by a Satanist.
I'm like, you're worse than a racist.
I have racist uncles.
They're fun at Thanksgiving.
Nobody's inviting a Satanist to Thanksgiving.
They say, can cousin Johnny come over to the Satanist?
No.
The Satanus cannot come over.
definitely the racist, by the way, not the same.
Real quick, a disclaimer, that was not jizz on my
shirt. Johnny was trying to warn me, but I was so locked in on the
conversation that I didn't even
notice that I had toothpaste on my shirt.
He really freshen up. It is toothpaste because you're freshen up.
Dude, this is the most dressed up I've been on the show
and then he shows up in shorts. I'm like, I could have just gone in my
fucking sweatpants like I like to do it.
But I was like, okay, I got to be, you know, this is big for him.
It's big for us, obviously, but, you know, like, these are important things for him.
Let's present the best version of ourselves.
I go, I'll even brush my teeth.
Right before.
And then I go, oh, dude, hopefully no toothpaste will get on my shirt.
And then it gets out my shirt, but I don't even notice.
And Johnny just lets me go the whole time.
I tried to text you early on.
Yeah, not very hard.
I text both your phones.
But usually when you need me, you go, you do this.
Yeah, but you were in, like you said, you were kind of locked in.
I didn't want to distract you.
And then be like, what, Johnny?
and then I get yelled at.
This was the text by Johnny to me.
Sam has gin on his shirt, right?
I did not jerk off in between.
I once went to a Zoom meeting with it on there that one time.
That's a true story.
I was like, oh, no, it's on me.
It's so funny.
You told me after two, you were like,
don't mention what day that was because I don't want anybody to go back and find.
Yeah, I go, what Zoom meeting was it?
Um, yeah, dude, listen, I think this is a fight for L.A. right now.
It matters.
This one does matter.
And what we're, why I was saying to Spencer as he left was like, everyone's like, globalists.
And then they, and then they've demonized nationalists.
Like, be loving your country.
I just don't.
It's so crazy on America, a loving being American is so demonized.
And literally every other country is like, we're the best.
We're the great.
It's like when Connor McGregor fights, all of Ireland comes over.
Right?
Totally.
It's America's the only one.
Now, it's very weird because...
Can you do that in a different country?
Like, can you be American and then be like in...
Because I know you can't hear because you're like, oh, that's racist or not.
But can you go to another country?
Like, during the World Cup, can you be in Japan and then, like, I'm American and then, like, act like everyone else?
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
I mean, people love, you know, I mean, there was a lot of patriotism was way more.
Now, patriotism and all that shit where you blindly follow the government.
That's a whole different thing.
But being proud of where you're from.
They polluted it, yeah.
Yeah.
You know, just, you know, when America is bombing everywhere,
I think people are not understanding there's a difference between loving your country
and blindly following your government.
Yeah.
But back to, you know, but what Spencer Pratt's doing is a localist thing.
Yeah.
Like, and that's where the change can happen.
You know, I mentioned this earlier.
It's all females.
It's very interesting to me how, like, women are like, you know,
if women ran everything, the world will be better.
Really?
L.A. sucks.
The mayor is female and the entire city council's female.
I didn't know that.
That's crazy that the whole city council's female.
I mean, where's the representation?
Every single one of them.
80, 90% you're talking 100%.
A hundred percent is female.
That's fucking.
How are they okay with that?
Yeah, how is that okay?
Because sexism doesn't involve that way.
If you pack something full of all females,
they're like, that is so open-minded.
That is so.
open-minded.
But if it's all guys, you're like, why are you sexes?
Because it goes back to this...
It's like colleges now.
Which might be good, but...
Well, it's bad.
It's actually diabolical what they're doing
because they're saddling women with all this debt.
So they can't start a family.
And guys are like, how much are you in debt?
I don't want to marry that.
I had a buddy wouldn't marry his girl
because their credit score was so low.
Oh, that's big.
breaking up, but, you know, it's like he wouldn't marry her.
It's probably not going to work out anyway, honestly.
If the credit score.
If you have like 800 and your partner has a 500, it's probably not going to work out.
No, what I mean is like if you are willing to end the relationship because the person's credit score
was behind.
No, but they ended later out, but she wanted to get married.
He's like, I'm not getting married.
You have 500 credit.
I'm with him.
There's two different lifestyles.
Like, he's obviously wanting to save money and like maybe not get lost.
And he pays his bills on time.
I don't believe in love, obviously.
Well, it's kind of like this.
If you go to a girl's house,
one of the biggest turnoffs for me
is when a woman lives in a messier house than I do.
There's like only room for one slob.
No, I'm with you.
There's not a lot women can do that turns me off.
A messy room is it.
Yeah, and like being messy personally.
I'm pooping.
You know which one drives me nuts
when they have the scum on the tub.
Yeah.
Clean your shit, ladies.
Dude, it's...
My favorite part when I was young,
hooking up with a chick was spending a night of her house.
It was like a night at a hotel.
It's like one free night at a hotel.
It's the bed so fluffy.
Everything's clean.
Using all the shampoo.
Yeah, there's options.
It smells.
Everything smells good.
It was great.
Everything smells like cotton candy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was great, dude.
I'm sure he's...
But, you know,
if you can real quick, go to samtribly.com.
We got some new dates about to be at it.
I'm going to tell you about them right now.
We got Batavia.
Then we have on the 16th.
It's not up yet.
It will be up by the time you watch this.
I'll be in Hamilton, Toronto.
I'll be in Hamilton, Ontario on the 16th.
And then the next two days I'm in Toronto.
Toronto is one of my favorite cities in the world.
Aren't you somewhere on a third to?
Yeah. And the fourth.
Oh, yeah. April 3rd, I'm in Raleigh.
And then April 4th, I'm in Atlanta.
Those dates will be up as well.
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Dallas.
Then I'll be in Fort Worth.
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Then I will be shooting, what do we call it?
Taping now?
Taping.
Yeah, filming.
Special taping.
Shooting, I think, works too.
Okay, what?
Shooting, I think, works too.
Okay, I'll be shooting.
shooting my live comedy special for Gas Digital in Austin at Creek in the Cave,
Albuquerque, 100, the 1,000 episodes sold out, Lawrence, Kansas, Tulsa, and then finishing out in Austin.
Yeah, go to my day, dude, so Spencer's sitting there waiting because you went upstairs, I don't know what you did,
and he left on this thumbnail that has a Saudi escort.
and Hitler on it.
I'm like, okay, this has got to be weird for him.
Oh, I see what you mean.
I see one upstairs and that was on, I got it on the screen.
On the screen, I'm like, take it off the screen, take it.
And then Epstein's there.
Go down.
Imagine you sit down.
He thinks he's got Jizz on his t-shirt.
You see Hitler.
Yeah.
And he's running for mayor.
And this place from the outside doesn't look like a studio either.
Yeah.
On the cover.
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Dude, they break down
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by, he got blackballed by
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The guy who ran
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Brothers, one of the Warren
blackballed Epstein's dad or this Epstein, right?
So then this Epstein, he gets blackballed.
A month later, he mysteriously dies.
No one knows how he dies.
And suddenly later that year, he shows up, a guy shows up in New York named something
Epstein.
And you look at this guy's record, this guy, there's no record of this dude, any, no
pictures of this guy anywhere.
Anybody has a record, right?
And it goes up to 42.
And then for 10 years,
there's nothing.
Nothing.
And then... His name is still Epstein?
His last name's Epstein.
And the reason they keep their last name
is because the Epstein are from this area
in Germany called Epstein.
And they're...
Epstein or something like that, right?
Epstein.
And they have this thing
where if you're in Epstein,
they automatically help you.
You don't have to qualify.
You don't have to do anything.
You don't have to prove to them anything.
And they automatically help you out.
So they're all like Epstein's dad was a gardener for, you know,
lawn maintenance for the city.
And you're like,
but he just rose to power.
And Nick brought it up and I didn't want to bring this up
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You're doing all this?
I have a website to me.
You didn't think that was a real picture of Sam as a ninja?
No, but I just mean like with the, even the words up there and stuff.
I mean, you've had, you know, spelling and great.
Johnny, shut up and tell us about cash daddies.
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T-shirts are amazing.
I'm working on that.
We got those special t-shirts.
I get my news from Sam Tripoli.
I'm going to see if you can put it on the front.
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Come on, dude.
That's ridiculous.
We've been doing 20 bucks.
Oh, dude, that shirt I made at the beginning of our run.
And that shirt turned out to be the most true.
Because NASA's calling to the dark journalist was a part of the JFK assassination.
That's a cool one.
Yeah.
That one's like an old school, that grungy looking.
I like that one a lot.
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And somehow Patreon, which I think is...
And this has happened to Owen Benjamin.
Like, they ding you for something you did somewhere else.
Oh, no, they do, yeah.
Somewhere else, oh, that's in...
No, I didn't know about it.
They got us on Punch Dr. R.E's butthole bleaching that time.
Like, they made me to take that down.
That's reasonable.
So what I had to do, you know what I did was?
I uploaded it.
The only place they would host it was like you porn or something like that.
So I uploaded it there.
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But I'm like email me if you want this video and I'll send you the link.
Actually, a couple of weeks ago, there's like one member.
Some guy signed up to get the video.
And I found it and sent him the link.
Why would you want to see that?
Exactly my thought.
Dude, the only reason you watch that is watching Steve Ernstizi Dry Heave.
Yeah, that's funny.
Yeah.
So it kind of brings up like the old school, Sam.
So as of right now, it looks like my movie is getting made that I came up with this idea.
I'm so excited.
But it's super adult comedy.
It's a crazy movie.
Is it kind of like as pushy as Tom's The Girl's Netflix show is?
It's not that crazy, but it's in that realm.
Do we get set visits?
That's what I want.
Of course.
I just got to figure out my role.
Because I don't want to act, but I just want that one role of like, I'm here for the gang bang.
Todd Phillips, yeah.
That's all I want.
That was, that's one of the best, like, one lines in a movie, a comedy ever.
That movie when that came out was so funny, bro.
Like, there were a couple of movies back then that, like, you could tell things were getting better and changing.
Like, there was American Pie, which from my generation was like, oh, shit, this is different.
Oh, shit, you can fuck a pie.
Yeah.
I mean, but like it was dirty, but it was for like young people.
There was old school.
What, like wedding crashers was a big one?
Then 40-year-old version, when Judd Apatow came in, like from the top rope and just was funny for a while.
Yeah.
To me, it was super bad.
Yeah, super bad's right there.
No, that's another one too.
Yeah, it's all.
And that's like that Apatow tree.
Yeah.
He just dominated for a decade until he went poser.
But, you know, it's, but going back to.
I think you're going to start seeing great comedies coming out again.
The problem is the internet moves so quickly that's hard for a comedy to be shot this year,
come out next year, and still be in front of the curve.
It can't be about current events or anything for sure.
It can't.
It has to be very specific, but it's happening, dude.
Like people are now investing, the investors are investing in huge movies anymore
because they're losing all their money.
The investors now are, and it's all money laundering anyways.
It's all like, oh, this cost a billion to make.
We'll spend $250 million on it and we'll give the rest to whatever thing, shady shit we want to do.
But, you know, you can now make a good movie for a million dollars.
I mean, dude, Hitler's been making fantastic movies on a much smaller budget.
So I'm excited.
What do you think about a scary movie?
You think it'll do anything good?
You think it'll be politically correct?
No, I mean, they're supposedly getting a lot of shit for it.
but I think these movies are important.
I think you have to push that out.
And, you know, again, going back to Spencer Pratt about, you know, like he nailed it.
He's like, you got all these people who moved there going, L.A. is awesome.
It's like, you don't know what you're talking about.
Because you may be from somewhere that wasn't fun and this seems like fun to you.
You don't know what we had.
And what we had was beautiful.
It's like, I remember when I was at the comedy store and it was.
fucking wild. It was rock and roll. And, you know, you'd always have these New York City
comics going, LA comedy sucks. And you're like, comedy store, that's a whole other beast. And if you
were lucky, it was like a, it was like a private club. If you were, if you were a regular there
before they started adding all the famous people, which I understand because you got to sell
tickets. Like, it was wild, dude. We were kings and we didn't even know it. That's how
Sopranos starts the first episode, the pilot, he's like, I'm realizing now that I got in at the end.
You know what I mean?
And that's how I felt moving here that I got in at the end, you know?
Yep.
You got in at the end.
And it's like all my friends in Austin that miss L.A., I go, the L.A. you miss is not here anymore.
It's not.
What's here now is fucking high prices and fat feminist.
that's ruining everything.
They've ruined comedy.
And it's like there's a lot going on.
Like, I don't know, man.
It was great, though.
I was so blessed.
But, you know, we were wild back then, dude.
And it could come back.
And I think it's going to come back.
But movies like...
You believe that.
Oh, with entertainment, maybe.
Yeah.
I don't know if LA, like, that sunset vibe.
Oh, I think it will come back once it starts to reset itself.
Because, yeah, you can make...
Because you see this all the time.
You see content creators who are living in the middle of nowhere, even if it's for a short time, they come here and they realize they're spending too much money.
And they're like, I'll just go back there.
Yeah, but they're annoying as shit content creators.
Like, have you seen that viral, that guy that eats food going viral because of how fucking annoying he is?
He's like a yoked black guy.
Yeah.
And he just goes in and annoys the shit out of everybody in a restaurant, you know?
And like, I think people are fed up with influencers.
Oh, yeah.
Laws will be passed.
that you can't bother people while you're doing it.
And they'd love to throw influencers in jail.
Like, they have no problems.
They're like, hey, homeless guy, masturbating.
No.
Chill out over there.
Let's grab this influencer that's pissing everybody off.
How about both of them go to jail?
No, they both should go to jail.
Do you think extending the, I don't know if you've heard that they're trying to extend the alcohol time or whatever from two to four?
Do you think like last call?
Yeah, you think that would bring.
Hollywood back to life because they're claiming that that could be a thing that would help it out.
I don't.
Well, of course it would help it out, but to me it goes, they just want more DUIs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, LA doesn't have a late, late night life anyway.
It's not New York.
You can't do New York where you can literally get on it.
Was it ever?
Because as soon, as long as I've been here, it's not closed early.
No.
And dude, you know what?
Finally killed it off was the pandemic.
Because you at least back then had shit that would stay open, like even stores and stuff would be up in 24 hours.
People never call me crazy, but when.
When Joe Rogan moved, he took the essence with him.
You're crazy.
You're crazy.
No, I think, yeah, there's something to that for sure.
It changed.
I mean, comedy, definitely.
Like, that was the light died.
Well, you know what happened to L.A., dude?
That Joe Rogan left, and it became Lord of the Rings.
I mean, excuse me, it came Game of Thrones.
Yeah.
It became Game of Thrones.
And everybody was battling over who was going to be the top dog.
And it's nobody.
It's literally nobody.
I would tell you who would.
I mean, he doesn't, he doesn't act like it, but I mean, Bobby Lee has been carrying this scene for three years.
Yeah, but he's not.
He's not the guy that wants to be the king, but he's been carrying the scene.
He's doing everybody's shows forever, and now they shot his special.
He's not doing his many shows, and it's affecting numbers.
Bobby Lee carried the scene for three years, him, Andrew, San Antonio.
Who is the top dog?
people could call me crazy, but
Nikki Glazer.
I buy that.
She's on fire right now.
She doesn't have that podcast thing though, right?
That's where Rogan was like the godfather,
you know, because he made people and he was the center of the comedy scene.
Well, I'll tell you, dude,
at one point the comedy store when Rogan was there,
was the center of comedy and the center of comedy podcasting.
All the biggest podcasters were going on stage.
nightly. And dude, they'd all come down out. We used to do, dude, for our shitty little punch drunk
Patreon, we had all the biggest comedians back before everybody had their own podcast in the world
would come on that show and sit there for an hour and bullshit while they were waiting to go back
up to another room. I mean, it was, you can never, like the lineup, the month we would have,
like there was a month we had Rogan, Kreisor, Diaz, Ari was on the show, you know, and then
I got, there was some. Oh, and, and, and a, and a,
Holly Shore was on there in one month.
On the Patreon.
I wish they could bring back to Ice House Chronicles.
Oh, that was great.
You know I helped name that?
Yeah.
Yeah, because I sat down and Brian Red Band and Joe Rogan were like, what should we call this?
I go, well, what names are you thinking?
They go, Ice House Chronicles.
I go, that's it.
You go, okay, it's called Ice House Chronicles.
It was so cool.
They would do stand-up, and then you would go, and they would talk about their say.
It was the craziest thing when I was.
You guys are podcasting, and then the guy would leave, be like,
oh, you're next, you're next.
And then mid-conversation, this guy would leave,
go do 10, 15 minutes, come back and be like, how was your set?
I used to watch on that shit.
And they was just so.
And, dude, no one will ever give Brian Red Band.
He's gotten the accolades because he killed Tony.
He's gotten the accolades.
But he needs to be in the documentary.
Like, there needs to be like, about podcasting?
100%.
And I'm telling you something.
And you guys can call me crazy,
but Desquod was the beginning of the end.
It was the beginning of the end.
Because it was like,
because Rogan was there,
and he was this juggernaut,
and he just co-signed on all these people,
even if you weren't really in that much,
you were still on Desquad,
even though that was Brian Red Band's,
but it became the first time.
I'm not saying it's the only one,
but it was the first time on a national level
that artists were doing art for themselves in the comedy world.
It was no longer about pitching.
It was no longer about,
trying to sell this.
It was like, I need to get an audience, but I'm going to do me the most me I could do.
And we did it.
And it's like, and that was the beginning of the end.
And then Andrew Schultz took it to another level.
And I think the future now is live streaming.
Streaming.
Yeah.
How much of it, though, is artificial.
Like, how much of it, that's the future because that's what the Algo has prioritized.
Because we've seen it.
You know, like it'll show your.
video to more people if it's live.
It seems like that's what they want.
Yeah.
What do you think that's about?
Why is that?
Because they have you captured on the platform.
Yeah, you're more likely to stay if it's live, right?
And watch the whole thing.
Yeah.
And that's just more times.
The next thing they're probably going to work on are commercials.
Our commercials.
Live commercials?
Yeah.
Between your lives, yeah.
Yep.
That's the next phase you're going to be.
And you'll have a little number.
Commercial in 10, 9, 8, bang, commercial.
Or they'll overlay some shit on your screen.
They got me to do it.
I got YouTube premium because I'd watch music videos.
And then every five minute, every five songs, they'd give me a 30-minute commercial.
Oh, yeah, I got to do that on Doomscribe.
I have to go in there and get rid of all the ads that they put.
Dude, the last one for Punch Strong, for Broken Sim is the most I'd ever seen.
It's almost like they heard us complaining about it.
Like, it was one every 30 seconds for the end.
So now you can't skip the ads.
It's the point where they want you to go do premium because it's so annoying.
We were just saying, you know, I take my money.
They want you to do premium.
You know?
Gangsters.
All right, guys, enjoy the highlights.
Here's a clip from the latest broken sim.
Did you see this?
It's funny.
It's not, I don't know quite what his end of it is.
But Gavin Newsom went on Adam Freedling show.
And Adam gets all the best, worst guest.
Yeah.
The best worst ones.
The attitude in America is who covered hobo-infested hellscape.
Right.
Yeah, pisses me off.
Let's say you meet someone in the middle of the country.
Yeah.
Right?
Some guy at the Iowa State Fair, he's eating fraud shit or whatever.
And they say, you are a governor of a failed state.
Like, your shit sucks.
Yeah.
It's your fault.
You let in bust loads of hobos and illegals.
This is a common perception.
How do you address a person directly?
Well, I mean, we can talk about the fact we went from the sixth largest economy,
the fourth largest economy.
We can talk about the fact we went from 49 to 58.
Fortune 500 headquartered companies more than...
Not this means anything.
By the way, he brought up the same point twice.
It's the finest system of higher education anywhere in the world.
We could talk about the fact where the center of innovation and entrepreneurialism with
AI, with quantum, with robotics.
Okay.
I'm a guy like in Dayton, Ohio.
I don't know what any of that means.
I just heard it's covered in poop itself.
Yeah, exactly.
Why do you just say like, bro, it's mad, nice?
After you're a burning man, come to California.
It's mad nice.
It's nice.
It's a nice place.
He's totally right.
He got him on that.
Everything that Gavin Newsom just listed is elite of shit.
Yes.
He didn't list one thing for the common man.
Dude, you came into the sixth.
AI, dude, that's against the common man.
It's destroying job.
I mean, it's just like, this is why this guy has no clue and he's trying his
hardest not to lose his mind.
Yeah.
But it's like, that was a great interview.
Adam was great.
He pushed it to him.
He sounds like he did coke all night and his nose was stuffed.
but he did do a great interview.
And it's like, hey, dude, you have no connection to the common man.
You have no connection to somebody in Alabama, nobody in Kansas City, nobody in Oklahoma.
Like, how are you supposed to be president when you can't even connect with these people?
You listed everything that is elitist, dude.
Fortune 500 companies.
These are all tech companies.
We know that, dude.
And tech companies hire 100 people to run a billion.
industry. How does that
help the common man?
How does that help? It's a shit hole,
dude. We've got some
big tinfoil hat news related to local
politics. I asked
last week at the end of broken simulation
for everybody to hit up Spencer
Pratt on Instagram and
it works. Now he's booked
to come on tinfoil hat.
It was a big week for him, by the way.
He got, he had his people
and with pressure from him
had gotten this testimony release
these depositions of the firemen.
And it's just damning for Karen Bass in the administration.
Of what we call like a...
So, okay, so to explain this, there was that smaller fire before the Palisades burned.
And they did not extinguish it properly.
They had guys like this man right here, Scott Pike of the LA Fire Department,
saying that they should have stayed on site and made sure that the fire was fully extinguished.
and then this is his testimony about that.
Host pickup party, or we were going to be tasked with going to pick up host
at the fire that occurred the night before.
I didn't even know it was named Lockman fire at that point.
I'm putting two and two together now, but that's what it was.
But at the time was, it was just like, hey, the fellas had a brush fire last night,
we're going to pick up host.
It was near the end of the line, and we were down in the burn.
and it was about that time I was just looking around and I saw light smoke on the ground.
I saw branches that were smoking still and I could smell smoke and there were, I would say, several smokers.
In that immediate area, I'd say there was like a handful, like five, but that's a lot to me.
It's just an indicator that's still hot.
So was there a containment line near where you first saw these smokers?
Nothing obvious.
To me, it didn't look like there was a very good handline cut.
Not a clean differentiation between burn and green.
And there was a lot of unburnt fuel in the burn.
I looked around, there were no other firefighters.
Nobody.
I was the only one.
So I went around and I exposed a couple areas of different sizes,
and that's where I noticed hot coals underneath the afternoon.
I can off of it and I didn't even want to use my gloved hand because it was hot.
So I just kicked it with my boot to kind of expose it.
Whoa!
Red hot like coals.
That was still smoldering and I even heard crackling.
I go, oh!
I feel like we've been assigned to pick up hose today, but I think a better move would be to pivot.
it and go to charge these hose lines and do a more thorough mop-up just based on that small
area as a sample portion.
What is he saying, Johnny?
Okay.
That goal started the fire?
They were there.
No, no, no, no.
They were there to, this was a smaller fire, the Lockman fire.
And they got told to pick up their hose, which we all love picking up hose, if you know what
I'm saying.
That's how I'm trying to pick up some right now.
And get out of there.
And he's like, dude, we need to be finishing putting.
out the fire. You know, the winds they're whipping. Why would we not put out this fire? And he tried to
talk to people. He got shot down. He got attacked by Karen Bass's attorneys in another piece of
deposition footage. I'll just play that briefly here. Check this out. And you're aware that the firm
represents some of the plaintiffs in these palisades fire cases? So they're trying to get him here
on possibly having like an axe to grind. Maybe he's
trying to help sue the city or something like secretly.
Oh, yeah, of course.
That's the angle.
That's got to be it.
It's always got to be an alternative angle.
It can't be the truth.
Here.
Is that yes?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
And I'm just asking for a yes or no here.
Have you ever spoken to the McNulty firm or any of the lawyers there?
Yes.
And how did you know to get in touch with the McNulty law firm?
Like, does someone refer you?
Yeah, outside the scope might invade the attorney-cliffe.
privilege. I'm not feeling comfortable answering these questions right now.
Why does him seeking a lawyer way after the fact have anything to do with this limited
discovery order, unless you're conceding, you're just opening up discovery all the way?
My personal actions to seek any legal advice from any lawyer at any time is my personal
decision. All this stuff came out and any of my concern to seek counsel was out.
after I saw, I'll go ahead and say I saw some stuff that didn't line up with what I saw.
Coming out from my leaders, ATF, whoever.
I saw protection from my fire chief for any future immunity,
by anything retaliation, because that's what I fear.
I didn't have anybody from the city contact me and say, hey, we'll represent you.
We've got your back because we want the truth.
Yeah, why not allowed to seek personal.
All right.
why wouldn't you fucking get a lawyer when one of the biggest fires in the history of los angeles and you've seen some shit why wouldn't you get a lawyer when they're asking him they're like well why didn't you let the city represent you and he's like because the city is lying about what happened yeah lying this is great is there some sort of rule i broke or like i'm asking too why is that relevant i feel i should have the privatized rights
to seek counsel no matter who it is. I'm asking why you're so concerned with who and when I sought counsel.
They want to try to discredit you because he reached out to Mr. McNulty.
I object.
I object.
I object.
Play this lawyer on the case and they want to try to say that Mr. McNulty talked to you in this giving your truthful test money today, which we all know is false.
But that's why he's asking.
Can we just get back to the deposition? I'll ask my questions. You guys can object. And if his counsel wants to instruct him in a certain way, he can do that. So just to be clear, you are represented by
Mr. Solid from Bush Gottlieb, right?
Yes.
They're not represented by the McNulty Law firm, right?
No, sir.
Okay.
When did it become clear to you, you would not be represented by the McNulty Lawfare?
Outside the scope.
I mean, I'm going to repeat the same objective.
It's way outside the scope.
His choice of lawyers has nothing to do with what the judge allowed to happen here.
And now it's become harassing and oppressive for this witness to sit here
and be peppered by the city's lawyer on things that are way outside the scope.
It feels like retaliation.
These are the kind of things that I'm keeping track of.
Who do you mean by that?
Meaning, I feel you're out of line.
What does it matter?
If we're all seeking the truth, you should have my back.
Whoever, you're with the city, right?
Yeah.
Right, sir?
He is.
He represents the city.
He represents the city.
So we should want to get all our kinks figured out, get our fire department back to normal staffing, good command, good decisions, and whatnot.
So what does it matter where I seek legal counsel when I'm part of a deposition, which is part of my job?
What does it matter where I seek legal counsel?
because I don't see anybody just wanting to get the truth.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
I can handle this.
It appears that everything we know about reports being redacted, information being missing.
I believe this ATF report was 76 pages long.
Do you know how many pages there was on the Lockman fire?
Do you know?
Tell me.
One.
That was the fire that happened before that he's suggesting.
And the report has suggested, is the same.
source of the palisades fire.
So here we sit in this room with all these hundreds of thousand dollars in staffing
and everything like that right now.
And what are we talking about?
The Lockman fire.
So we all know that the investigation, interviews, and everything could have been done better.
That's why we're all here.
Because it's a big deal, I may have saw representation from multiple lawyers.
So I am feeling a little harassed while you're a focus fixated on this one,
lawyer or whatnot.
That's none of your business.
That guy's great.
Yeah.
He just took it to it.
Why wouldn't you get a lawyer?
When you realize that what you saw and what the city is saying is two totally different
things and you know that they're going to come, all hell is going to rain down on you?
Why wouldn't you get a lawyer?
You'd be an idiot not to get a lawyer.
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