Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #974: Epstein Justice With Nick Bryant

Episode Date: March 18, 2026

The latest episode of Tin Foil Hat with Nick Bryant examines Jeffrey Epstein's rise, his powerful connections, and the latest document releases. Bryant discusses controversial claims involving Donald Trump while stressing the need to separate evidence from speculation, criticizes those dismissing concerns as "pedo panic," and calls for accountability through transparency and investigation. He also reflects on recent Epstein files, noting a mix of misinformation, disinformation, and deeply disturbing material. Please check out and support Nick Bryant's Epstein Justice Webinar: https://epsteinjustice.com/epstein-justice-webinar/ Please subscribe to the new Tin Foil Hat youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@TinFoilHatYoutube Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/415fDfY Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Tuesday At 4pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now! Go to https://www.samtripoli.gold/ and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show. CopyMyCrypto.com: The 'Copy my Crypto' membership site shows you the coins that the youtuber 'James McMahon' personally holds - and allows you to copy him. So if you'd like to join the 1300 members who copy James, then stop what you're doing and head over to: https://copymycrypto.com/tinfoilhat/ You'll not only find proof of everything I've said - but my listeners get full access for just $1 Grab Tickets To Sam Tripoli's Live Shows At SamTripoli.com: Batavia, IL: 3/26-3/28 Raleigh, NC: 4/3 Atlanta, GA: 4/4 Hamilton, Canada: 4/16 Toronto, CA: 4/17-18 Dallas, TX: 4/24 Fort Worth, TX: 4/25 Austin, TX: (Live Taping Of My New Comedy Special) 5/22 Albuquerque, NM: 6/12-6/13 Austin, TX: The 100th Episode Of Tin Foil Hat 6/18 Lawerence, KS: 9/17-9/19 Tulsa, OK: 10/9-10/10 Austin, TX: 12/11-12/13   Please check out Nick Bryant's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/nickbryantnyc   Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedy  Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/%20P Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/   Please support our sponsors: Nic Nac: A family-owned company making the superior nicotine option, manufactured in the USA with the highest quality standards. Nic Nac is a fully dissolvable nicotine lozenge—a lip brick if you will—made with just six premium ingredients, clearly listed on the back. You know exactly what's in it. Warning: This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical MenGoToMars.com: Mars Men gives you the same benefits of optimized testosterone — energy, strength, focus — without shutting your body down.  For a limited time, our listeners can get 50% off for life plus Free Shipping AND 3 Free Gifts at Men Go To Mars dot com. That's MenGoToMars.com for 50% Off AND 3 Free Gifts when you checkout.  And it's also available on Amazon! After you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them. PLEASE support our show and tell them our show sent you.      

I've concluded that muffins are just muffins, and I've concluded that steaks are just steaks. With pizza, you get something completely different. Dr. Harry Fish has pizza and grape soda with Jeffrey Epstein six times. And I called up Dr. Fish. And I said, Harry, my name's Nick Bryan. I'm a journalist. And I'd like to know what type of pizza you like and what's your favorite brand of grape soda. Timfoil hat.

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He is a investigator and author, and he is running the Epsteinjustice.com. Very excited to have him on the powerful Nick Bryant. How are you, sir? Great to be with you, Sam. We're very excited to have you. you on. I follow you and I think you're doing amazing work and I think you're very

important. So thank you. Nick, for those who may not be familiar with your last appearance, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you. I've been a writer, professional writer for 35 years and I've been a freelance

writer for let me see, about 22 years, actually longer than that, 26 years. And I've dug into some of the darkest crevices of the human condition. And I've written articles about very disparate things. The first major book I wrote was called The Franklin Scannell. I'd authored another book prior to that, but the Franklin Scan was about a child trafficking network that flew kids from coast to coast,

and one of the pimps was a CIS. And there was blackmail involved, and it was it. And it was, It was what we're seeing with Epstein is almost a carbon copy of the Franklin scandal. Except with the Franklin scandal, it was Republicans molesting little boys. And with Epstein, we're seeing Democrats molesting little girls. I think that seems to be like maybe a partisan divide. I don't know. But that book got published. I spent seven years on that book, and it got published.

And the message of it was very radical. when you cover up a crime, you're aiding and abetting that crime. And I was saying that the federal government was aiding, betting child trafficking. And nobody wanted to hear that message. And I was, and this is in 2009, 2010, when podcasts were much less sophisticated than they are now. And I was getting on podcasts and people were talking to me about the Luminati and shapeshifting repealions and things like that. At a certain point, I just, I couldn't take it anymore. But then I wrote a couple more books, compromised, the politics of sexualized and blackmail.

And that's from the perspective of someone who used to run a gay escort service in D.C. And CIA assets would use his escorts to compromise closeted politicians. And then I wrote a book about Watergate. And at the heart of Watergate is the CIA Honey Trap. That's not too many people know about it. but it's been covered up very assiduously. So I found myself, after the Franklin scandal, I was really bummed out,

and I found myself looking at what was going on with Epstein. And with Epstein, there were girls that had come forward, underage girls that had come forward. But a grand jury had said that Epstein hadn't molested a single minor. And that's what happened with the Franklin scandal. Two grand juries came forward and said that not a single minor had been molested. So that kind of caught my attention, and I went down to Florida, and I started doing what I do. I was pounding the pavement, knocking on doors.

And then I got Epstein's Black Book, and that was revelatory to me. there was a number of victims in the black book and I started calling them. And then I, at that point, one, the first phone call was kind of strange. I was talking to a girl's mother. And, but the girl was in the room and she was willing to answer my questions via her mother. And she told me that Epstein had molested her initially when she was 13 years old. And then I talked to someone else about being flown, and then there was someone who said, I've been flown to an island.

And that's when I got a bead on Jeffrey Epstein. And I was finding this stuff out in 2011 years before the story broke. And I came back to New York with the Black Book, and nobody wanted to touch it. I mean, I could not. That's crazy. I live in the epicenter of media, and no one wanted to touch the black book. So it just kind of caught dust in a corner of my apartment, and then finally in 2012, Gawker published it. And by that time, I'd had the flight logs and Gawker published those, too.

So that was the story of how the black book got ushered to national consciousness. Well, thank you for that. have a website you want them to check out or anything like that? You can check me out at ebsteinjustice.com. That's the most important thing. But if you want to take a look at the books that I've written or the blogs that I've written, you can go to nick Bryant, NYC.com. All right.

Those are available in the description of the episode below. So, you know, obviously I haven't been following this as long as you have. you're kind of like in the forefront of this exposing this super dark blackmailing scheme. But I've been following this for what I would consider a long time. This show is nine years old. It won the earliest shows we were discussing. Pizza gate and all that stuff. And I got excommunicated by a lot of people in Hollywood.

I got physically touched, you know, and stuff like that. So then all this stuff comes out. And it's super exciting that, you know, the masses are waking up to it. But what I find really crazy are these people that are trying to gaslight everybody into saying there's nothing in these emails. And even though we only have half or less than half, it seems pretty damning. But yet there's this gaslighting going on. You know, Michael Tracy and his famous pedo panic and stuff like that. And I go, it's like you listed all these blackmailing rings, which have all this stuff into it.

What do you think that is? Is it, you know, Tracy's starting to get litigious with people. So I want to pick my words very specifically. Do you think there's counter motives involved? Well, of course. I mean, the Trump administration is saying that Epstein and Maxwell had no co-conspirators. which is absurd and laughable. Michael Tracy, I call him Mikey.

Mikey came after me. After an interview, I gave Chris Hedges, a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist. And Mikey had all these bullets of how I'd exaggerated and lied and told outright falsehoods. And I spent 7,000 words addressing Mikey's critique of me.

and I ended up throughout that entire interview just through my memory, my old senior citizen memory, I made four minor mistakes and Mikey made eight mistakes criticizing me. If you want to read my deconstruction of Mikey, go to my blog and it's under Mikey and me a love story. It just seems crazy to me because, you know, again, we listen, you know, you can add the finders to this, nexium. You can just go on forever. I mean, the Clinton Foundation was in just one year had five associates on trial for some sort of human trafficking. And to sit there and go, well, we're the specifics here. And there are specifics in these emails.

But then to be like, well, you know, even. Even Megan Kelly, who seems to be more right than wrong lately, she does have her blind spots, tried to dismiss it as, you know, they're like 16-year-olds and 15-year-olds and 17-year-olds. They're not like, you know, like newborns or infants. And there is a difference between a 16-year-old and a 4-year-old, even though they're both minors. There is a difference. but to me it just seems like you're just trying to run interference at this point and you're trying

to lessen the cut that that people are starting to wake up to and it just seems dangerous. It's like, no, let's deal with everybody. This notion of pedo panic and stuff like that, which is a reference to satanic panic and the red scare, which let's face it afterwards turned out, be there was actually something there. There was stuff involved with that elementary school. There was stuff involved with the Memphis three. Communism was a big problem at that point like we see right now.

And I'm not trying to get political because I don't know your stance on those. And that's not important right now. But, you know, there were things to those. So this notion of this sci-up of panic is kind of crazy to me. And we just live in this upside-down world of where it's like, you know, I grew up. I'm thinking you protect children at all cost. Like they're the most precious thing on this planet. Why are we trying to be civil with this when these people are completely uncivil?

These emails have shown that Epstein had multiple co-conspirators. They've shown that there was torture involved. They've shown that there were girls that were under 12 years old. involved. Wow. And these are concrete examples. I think that there's disinformation in those emails. I think there's misinformation in those emails,

but then I think a lot of them are actually, although they're true, they're just dripping with evil. And that, I mean, when Epstein responds to, the Sheikh in United Arab Emirates, I loved the torture video. How are we supposed to interpret that other than Epstein loved the torture video? When Epstein's sending, when girls that are 11 years old are getting pictures of the JPEGs of them are getting sent to Epstein, how are we supposed to interpret that? There was a UCLA neuroscientist named Mark Trammo.

He had an MD and a PhD, and he wrote an email to Epstein on how to enhance an infant's sucking ability. And if he had written it to someone else, maybe he could get out of it, but he had written it to Jeffrey Epstein, and he's no longer on the UCLA website. There was a Harvard mathematician named Martin Noak who also talked to Jeffrey Epstein about torture. He is on leave from Harvard right now.

So there are these minor ramifications happening. These people need to be held accountable for a lot more than just stepping down from their job. But that shows you the kind of evil that we're dealing with. And I've always said that that Epstein is a psychopath and he doesn't have to deal with any kind of compunction or a conscience. And he's going to do whatever he wants. You say he, you think he's still alive? You're talking about like he's alive? I would have to say, I personally believe that he's dead, but that's open for interpretation.

there's a lot with these like oh he faked his death and i'm not saying he didn't or he did you know but it seems like it's much easier and cleaner to off him yeah than to go through all this stuff that's going on and there's little things that make you think that maybe he is still alive um but it just seems easier even with the charlie kirk stuff they're like he's in new zealand i'm like that's so much work like why why aren't they just off him and then they all move on in their life. It's, it's, it's, it's very interesting to me. Um, you know, I live in Hollywood and, you know, I've been out here for 27 years and I have, uh, watched some of the worst people get like to the highest levels. And why, why do you think that there's this movement to,

to push really dark individuals into positions of power? The best way, I can answer that is when I was investigating the Franklin scandal, I got to a blackmail photographer. And I was trying to get my head around it all because no one had ever really written a book about it. Now people can read it in a book, but I'd never read anything about it in a book. So I asked him, you know, how does this work? Can you give me an analogy that I can get my head around with all this? Because it just seemed, it was so evil and it was sprawling. And I was just having a hard time making sense of it. And he said to me, once you're compromised, it's like you're on a yacht.

And it's a beautiful yacht and it's a beautiful day. And you can have anything you want on the yacht. But if you decide to get off the yacht, the people on the yacht are going to make sure that you drown. I believe that's how Hollywood works. I believe that's how politics works. I think once you're on the yacht, you'll experience extremely auspicious upward mobility. So, you know, there's been a lot of talk about Epstein on why, you know,

why he was he picked? What is the initial thing? There's a lot of videos coming out involving his last name, where his heritage is from in Germany, the powerful group of Epstein's out there. there's an area or a city called Epstein in Germany. But, you know, because I'm always like, what is the thing that through their data, they have calculated that this is the guy that we want to push forward.

This is the guy he's connected through his bloodlines. You know, the data shows he's a psychopath. He would do, he would, he would off his mother just. for money, power, and sex. In learning about Epstein, what do you think it was the thing that got him, got the ball rolling for him, into this position of power?

You have to keep in mind that his father was a gardener for New York City. So, and he grew up in working class Coney Island. And how can we? we explain someone whose father was a gardener who grew up in working class coney island ascending to the heights that he ascended to i put a lot of thought into that he did go to interlocking arts camp when he was a teenager he he was an amazing piano player as as a kid and interlocking art school is one of the preeminent art schools in the country. It's not quite up there with Juilliard,

but it's very, very prestigious. So here's a guy from a working class family that ends up at interlock, which is very expensive. And then at that time, when Jeffrey Epstein was in high school, the program was started by Donald Barr. Bill Barr's father.

And he was OSS, and it was being funded by the National Science Foundation, which is definitely takes CIA money. And what he was doing is he was getting groups of talented kids from all around New York City, and they would spend Saturday at Columbia getting lectures. And now, he left. that, but that program continued. And I've tried to find out whether or not Jeffrey Epstein was part of that program, because I do believe that that program had heavy-duty intelligence connections. So that would have been a place where Jeffrey Epstein could have been inserted

because Donald Barr goes on to be the headmaster of Dalton School, which is one of the most prestigious schools in the United States. And Bill Barr, or Donald Byr, hires him. Now, Donald Barr is an autocratic, fascist, by the rules kind of guy. Jeffrey Epstein did not even have a college degree. You practically need PhDs to teach at Dalton. So I believe that, you believe that, that there was some kind of, I can't prove it, I've tried to prove it, but it's difficult to prove it. I believe that there was some kind of connection between Donald Barr and Jeffrey Epstein. And that's how Jeffrey Epstein got hired. Now, Donald Barr would leave that year, and Jeffrey Epsey would only last for a couple of years at Dalton.

But then Bear Stearns hired him. And he ascended the ranks of Bear Stearns. He became a partner within a couple of years. And here's the guy that doesn't even have a college degree. Now, and here's another place where he could have had a connection with intelligence because Bear Stearns was working with BCCI. And BCCI was probably the dirtiest bank of all time. It laundered money for drug dealers.

It laundered money for mercenaries. It laundered money for arms traffickers. It laundered money for the CIA. And then he's booted out. of Bear Stearns because of insider trading, but nothing happens to him. And then he ends up in business with Doug Lees, who is a big time's arms dealer in the UK. And he is definitely plugged in to the government, Douglas Lease. And just a nasty repellent human being, which I think most arms traffickers are.

Yes. But EPSC was working for him. And then in the early 80s he came back and he started a tax relief for the rich with a guy named Stan Ponger who had been the assistant attorney general and who at that time was involved in selling arms to Iran via the CIA. And Epstein was involved selling arms to Iran via Douglas Lees. So I think that by that time, he was totally integrated. Hey, guys, Bitcoin is making a little run back. Some of your other coins are doing pretty good, too. Got to check it out.

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that one guy with the weird magician's hair, and he just got arrested and tried and convicted. But it's a very interesting thing. Now, Nick, this is another question people are asking, and there's just this, you know, weird debate. And I don't know how important it is, but it seems to be a pretty passionate debate. And that is, who do you think was handling who?

Do you think Galane Maxwell was the brains of the operation or the helped him get access to all this stuff, or was Jeffrey Epstein basically making Juselaine Maxwell do his bidding and use her contacts through her father and her sisters to ascend up to the ranks of power? Delaan's father, Robert Maxwell, was a nasty piece of work. And I befriended former Israeli spy Ariven Manashi. And he told me, well, this is on public record, that Maxwell had this huge publishing empire.

And he was plundering the pension funds of all the workers that worked for his huge publishing empire. And he tried to blackmail the Israelis into helping him replenish those pensions. And instead of, it's a bad idea to blackmail an intelligence agent. For sure. And that's what led to his demise. Now, that's what Erie Ben Manashi has told me. But Epstein said the exact same thing in an email that Maxwell was killed because he was trying to blackmail the massage. I found that that to be very interesting.

So I think by the time that Epstein really got going, Geline Maxwell came along. And she built a machine. that enabled Jeffrey Epstein to just destroy hundreds of girls. She was the one that built the machine. Jeffrey Epstein had the connections. So I think it was a partnership. With the Franklin scandal, there was Lawrence King and Craig Spence,

and Lawrence King was in Omaha, and he had the connection for the kids. And Craig Spence was a CI asset whose house was right for an individual blackmail. and a lot of the pedophilia parties would go down there. So I think that the King-Spence relationship is very similar to the Galane Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein relationship. Yeah, I think they were like a power couple. Like they literally went together to events, then literally acted like. There's an old saying, behind every powerful man, there's a great woman.

I mean, it literally is this right here. I mean, it's kind of crazy. Do you know she used to be it? She knows how to, like, drive a helicopter and a submarine. Yeah, she was, like, a real, like, she was a great woman. She's on Reddit. She's like the Bill Burr of the Peta Lives. Yeah, she, it was, it's very crazy to me. And again, you know, there's some weird kind of parallels to Erica Kirk.

I don't want to get into that because that's not what you're here to talk about. But as we learn more about Erica Kirk, we see CIA ties through her parents. and what seems to be an MK Ultra sex kitten kind of spy agent. And, you know, it seems like Maxwell groomed his daughters to do that. And, you know, I'm not going to be, well, who cares? They're evil people. But she seemed to be the pretty one that he sent out to the parties. And then the other two sisters seem to be more of in the office, running the computer systems.

There's a discussion right now that her sister. I forget her name, basically controls the FBI computers. Like, that's a lot of power right there. I think it's entirely within the realm of reason that Maxwell molested his daughter. Maxwell is another guy who's a psychopath who has no moral barometer. And narcissists like that, they justify molesting their daughters because they think that they're helping their daughters out. And that would not surprise me if Robert Maxwell had been molesting Elaine Maxwell. And that's how she got so bent sexually because she was definitely brutalizing these kids.

She was part of those pedophilic orgies. Now, have you been able to talk to anybody, in particular, any of the women that worked with Epstein? Well, I'm talking to a number of the victims. but so this is kind of interesting. In this latest tranche of emails, I'm in the emails. Whoa. But for a good reason.

So I got the black book in October of 2011. And once I concluded that Jeffrey Epstein was running a network, I started to call his inner circle. And the only person that answered the phone was Sarah Kellyn, who is really a malevolent individual. She led hundreds of lambs to the slaughter. And she wanted to tell me how mean the media had been to her. And I really couldn't muster up any kind of commiseration for her. And I think that she kind of got a bad vibe for me because I probably was,

I probably came across to someone who thought she was evil, which I think is true. She is. So someone sent an email to all of Jeffrey Epstein's inner circle. We know who the emails were sent to, but we don't know who the sender was. And talking about there's a journalist Nick Bryant down here asking questions. Everybody be quote unquote aware of him. And then they had my picture. In the email.

Damn. So they put the, the Epstein people put out an APB on me. Really, dude, that's crazy. Yeah. There's some, you have, you know, the old saying is hurt people, hurt people. Yes. And, you know, there is, for a woman to do that to a little girl, the amount of damage that must be done to that grown up woman is horrifying. to think about, to lead somebody down, I mean, and just be like, just like you said, basically

a chum and a shark tank and to put those little girls in there and then to continue the cycle of trauma. It's really a tragedy. But where our government comes into play is, and the emails came out, the FBI was told about Epstein in 1996. If the FBI had acted on that information in 1996, hundreds

of girls could have been saved. And these girls and young women, I've talked to a number of them. And they're severely, severely damaged, which is completely reasonable. I mean, that's

how it works out. But for the government to let Jeffrey Epstein molest girls from 1996, and then there was the sweetheart deal in 2008, that was barely a speed bump, and he went all the way to 2019. So there were a lot of opportunities to stop Jeffrey Epstein from molesting little girls. But our government, our federal government did not do it. It's really, it's a tragedy. Do you think they'll have like an excuse of like, well, we couldn't get him because he was in this operation. And if we got him the operation, you know, because they kind of do that with like, like gangs and stuff where they kind of justify why they wouldn't arrest them during that moment because it would ruin the whole operation.

Do you think they're going to have an excuse like that? Well, I mean, they can't have that excuse. The problem is where X number of years passed it and they've done nothing to put it to an end. and they've actually done the exact opposite. They've doubled down and protected them even more. So it's like that excuse, I think if they use that, that would ring hollow with the population. I didn't know that.

I've been studying Epstein for many years, and I didn't know this until relatively recently. But the feds drafted a 60-count indictment against Epstein. And I could never pin that down. I was told that a grand jury had been impaneled and then been adjourned, and then I was told that there wasn't a grand jury. But actually, the Department of Justice had a grand jury, and the FBI did an amazing job. And they had a list of 36 victims, but they knew a 40. And they were going to indict Jeffrey Epstein on 60 different counts that would have ensured his, he never would have saw the light of the day again.

Now, what happened was, and there is even an email about this, about the top FBI brass, because Alexander Acosta was the U.S. attorney for Southern Florida, and he's taking a lot of heat about that. And I thought that he caved in pretty quickly. But I was wrong because there's an email where the quote unquote top brass of the FBI are going down to Florida to twist his arm. And Alexander Acosta by himself as a U.S. attorney would not have covered up a nationwide pedophon network or an international pedophon network. A U.S. attorney wouldn't go out on a limb like that. And there's only two people that can tell a U.S. attorney to stand down.

One is the attorney general and one is the president. The attorney general at that time was Alberto Gonzalez. And an attorney general isn't going to go out of limb and unilaterally good. cover up a pedophile network, unless his boss tells him to. And his boss at that point was George Bush, too, the cognitively challenged George Bush. So that's where these mandates emanated from, the Oval Office. The White House, yeah. You know, as a young man, we grew up, my grandfather was a cop, my cousin is a cop. We always looked at police officers in a certain way, and that extended to the FBI and the CIA, as we

understood it, you know, that, you know, they're out there fighting crime. They're trying to protect us and all that stuff. What is your, what is your view of them now after all these years of, of, of, digging into these rings? Like, what do you think the actual purpose of these agencies are? The CIA was problematic from its inception in 1947. And actually, Harry Truman was the president who decided to implement the CIA. And he thought it was a, he came to look at it as a gross mistake. Because the CIA took a certain amount of autonomy onto itself. and it started developing various funding mechanisms.

And we were in a pretty hardcore battle with the Soviet Union, and Joseph Stalin had the bomb. Now, there's another guy that's a psychopath and really doesn't care about humans too much as Joseph Stalin. So the people in the CIA felt like fighting communism was too important to be left to play. politicians. So they decided to develop a lot of funding mechanisms so they could fight communism without having to worry about the politicians. And William Colby, who would become CIA director,

who had a mysterious death. Yeah. He went canoeing when he was like 74 years old in April and didn't have shoes on. I mean, the whole thing was going to stringent. But anyway, William Colby, I knew someone that knew William Colby fairly well. And he had two regrets about the CIA. He said developing these funding mechanisms or he weren't accountable, he regretted that. And then the stuff that the CIA did with children. He also regretted that too. With who?

Children. With children. Oh, my God. It just seems to me like they've become like, security for the elites. And it seems like, and even with our law enforcement, again, my family is in law enforcement. So I've always had a positive view of them. But it almost seems like their job is just to keep the elites protected. Like that's when they really show up. You know, it's like when the immigrants went to, what was that island where all the rich people go on Nantucket? Now that one, Martha's Vineyard.

And the illegals were there for about five minutes before they put them back onto the buses and the planes and ship them out. That seems to be the job. And then the way they've manipulated our culture, it just seems like we live in an upside down world right now. It's very crazy to me. And it sucks because who do we turn to to deal out justice? Well, at this point, when the government is, as I said earlier, when you cover of a crime, you're aiding and abetting that crime. And when your government is aiding abetting child sex trafficking, something has gone seriously wrong with your government. And I think it's a dark, malignant corner of the CIA.

I think there are some people in the CIA that are very, that are good people trying to do the right thing. but there's that dark malignant corner that has the compromise and does all these other things. And they have a tremendous amount of power. They have a tremendous amount of power over our politicians because a lot of our politicians are compromised. And what we're proposing with Epstein Justice is an independent congressional commission. That is the only way we're going to have a shot at cleaning out our government. And we talked about it the last time I was on. It was just kind of starting to congeal.

An independent congressional commission does not need a presidential signature. It does need a majority in the House and it needs a majority in the Senate. But those type of commissions incorporate non-government personnel for investigations. And that's what we need is an independent congressional commission that, that incorporates non-government personnel because if we continue, if this stays within our political system, our political ecosystem, we're never going to get the truth. We're never going to get the truth about these documents. We're never going to get them unredacted.

So it's really up to us as Americans, and I think that this might be the best, excuse me, might be the best time in our lives to clean out our government. government. And it might be the best time ever to clean out our government before our leaders take us off a cliff. I, you know, again, I live in L.A. I went through the early 2000s Me Too movement in which, you know, grown actresses accused some people of some bad things, but also like minimal things, you know, almost flirtation, maybe past that, but not like what we're hearing in these Epstein files. And yet there was very swift justice.

People are excommunicated. People who really, there wasn't any evidence of wrongdoing. I'm not saying that they might not have done something we don't know about, but, you know, there's really no evidence of any wrongdoing and they were just completely annihilated. Yet when it comes to this, you know, it seems to be, and we saw this with the Catholic, when all that scandal is coming out, this almost fear of looking at what is being exposed. And people are very afraid to look at the beast in the eye

because it's so dark to them that in whatever they are in their life, they don't want to let that knowledge in. Have you seen that? Because it seems like we're very quick to eradicate a man who has been accused of doing wrongdoing against a grown woman. And we should do that, right? I mean, I think after the Me Too Amendment, we got to kind of see what the evidence is instead of having emotional reactions based on predetermined factors.

But it just seems, again, even with the Catholics, you know, the Mormons are going through this right now. it seemed to be this resistance to actually wanting to face what is happening. Have you seen any of that in your research? Well, it's called cognitive dissonance. And what makes Epstein different from these other scandals is that the government complicity. It makes it a completely different beast.

and a lot of people just are in denial about it. There's no one in my family that has read any of the books that I've ever written. Yeah. I had a brother-in-law who read one of my books, and he wasn't such a good husband of my sister, given his drinking and his love of prostitutes. But he was the only one that ever read anything I wrote. And that's the kind of denial we're dealing with. But when you have a pathology, you go through three different phases.

You have awareness. Now, we do have awareness of Jeffrey Epstein. Then there's acceptance. And I think that these emails are actually augmenting Americans' acceptance. Because there's just some stuff in those emails that's too evil to avoid. although the mainstream media is doing its best to not show the more malignant emails. And then the next step is action. So awareness, acceptance, action, and I think we're moving towards awareness.

And when we get a critical mass of awareness, there'll be a sea change and we'll be able to take action. And people are calling us, someone put on an Epstein demonstration in, Sacramento over the weekend. And we supported them to the best of our abilities. And we're encouraging people to start these

protests in whatever state they're in and we'll do our best to help them. And it's going to have to be a grass for its movement because the billionaires aren't really going to underwrite Epstein justice. Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, during the COVID. Like thousands of people. We didn't expect it. You know, he ran it. I want everyone to know that. Sometimes I get credited with it. It wasn't me. It was Scotty.

He put that all together and he should get all the credit for it. And then they did another one on March 7th. I believe he told me April 11th is the next one. going to try to go even bigger. But outside of those two protests, most of these protests seem to have like dark money and involved agent provocateurs, undercover agents and stuff like that. So, you know, when you see these kind of grassroots meeting, protests showing up, and you can tell the grassroots because the media isn't covering them.

you know, they're not pushing a certain narrative, which is, you know, illegals versus ICE or, you know, all these other protests that they've had. You know, it's like the people who are committing crimes tend to fund these counter these, these astroturfed movements. You mean there were more protesters than photographers there? Is that what you're trying to say? Yeah, I mean, that was the big thing about no kings. Johnny brought that up.

We were looking at videos and, or pictures, and it was like all camera people and like two protesters. So it's interesting to me that, you know, and what, what is, let's face this real quick, Nick, there was a time when this behavior wasn't seen as as taboo. And I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying history. And, you know, you saw people taking very young brides and stuff like that. And over time, we started to see that, you know, this is having cyclical. effects on these young girls, even though they're maturing into, you know, becoming adults, they're not mentally there yet. And, you know, you see people say it's all time. It's like, yeah, they might be maturing if you have a 10th grade, 11th grader. She might be physically maturing,

but mentally she's not there yet. And these guys who are 40, 50 years old, they have the game of somebody who's been around for a long time and they know how to mentally manipulate these girls. And at the end of the day, you know, you could do immense damage to this girl psychologically. And, you know, if it's if it's not like a dark, dark pedal ring, she could get pregnant and then that ruins her childhood and stuff like that. There's a million reasons why we as a society and culturally decided to stop that, you know. But, but there's just something about this taboo above almost all the other taboos. because you know at one point if you like cheated on your wife you were ran out of society and then as time went on you know if you were gay you got in trouble now that nobody cares or at least

most people don't care but what is it about this particular taboo that you think is that i'm and i have a good reason but i would love to hear i have a good belief on it but i would love to hear your thoughts on why this seems to be at the highest levels of every single power structure? Well, child abuse, there's a pandemic of child abuse. Pandemic. In the United States of America. According to the Centers for Disease Control, 25% of underage girls in the United States and 5% of underage boys have been molested.

Now, people in the field will tell you, that that's slightly conservative for underage girls, and it's very conservative for underage boys. But if you just go with those numbers, you've got over 50 million Americans who were molested when they were underage. And that, and trafficking, and if you look at women that have been trafficked,

regardless of how young they are, incest is generally a component of that. and so with our and actually the average entry into the sex industry for a girl is 13 or 14 years old so we have this pandemic but we can do something about it we're not and this has always been my reasoning on it um how can we do something about this if the government covers it up. So that has to be our first step is to make sure that the government doesn't cover these types of crimes up. And then we can start working on other facets. And this isn't going to be an easy fight. I mean, Labor's rights at the turn of the 19, 20th century, that was a battle.

That was a huge battle. A lot of people lost their lives. Civil rights was a huge battle, and people lost their lives. Women's rights, gay rights, these have been battles. And now we have another battle to fight that we cannot let the government cover up child trafficking anymore. I mean, it's got to stop. And it's not going to be an easy fight, but I think we can do it. granted, I'm optimistic, but I've never been diagnosed as delusional. So I just want to add that as a caveat.

Now, I don't know if you want to get into this, but there seems to be foreign assets involved in not all these, but a lot of these in particular, Jeffrey Epstein. Do you have any thoughts on that? Jeffrey Epstein was heavily plugged in to Israeli intelligence, and he was putting together arms deals with Ahud Barak. You can go to my blog or go to the Epstein Justice blog. I've written about some arms deals that Epstein put together with, with Ahud Barak in Israel. And I believe that Epstein, people just automatically default that he's working for Israeli intelligence or the Mossad. And I believe that he was working for both Israeli intelligence

and American intelligence. Because as I said, that Epstein coverup went all the way up to George Bush too. I just don't see them doing that for a Mossad operation. I see them doing that for a CIA operation. And plus, I don't think the CIA is going to let the Mossad compromise American politicians on American soil without getting a cut of that intelligence. And the Mossad and the CIA are, there's a detain between them. I mean, it's like the Gambino

crime family and the Genovese crime family. So basically, you think that, you know, that they work together when it's mutually beneficial and there's also times they're working against each other basically? I don't know if they work against each other that often, to tell you the truth. So you think that they're always working together? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, just like the Gambino family and the Genovese family, they work together. I mean, there's beefs, of course. Yeah. But they always work together because they know if they

start slaughtering each other, it's going to be bad for business. So the big move, there was a big like kind of time on Twitter, the legacy media trying to label him as a Russian asset. And then, you know, the Twitter pushing back as, are you crazy? This is nuts. But there's a part of me that goes, I think Epstein worked with everybody. And it's not that he was a Russian asset, but if there was opportunity for me, money and power, do you think there was a chance that he did do some stuff with Russian intelligence? Well, he got a hood Barack. The Israelis wanted to take out the Syrian dictator, but they wanted to make

sure that the Russians were cool with it. And Epstein knew a number of oligarchs, and they were able to facilitate a meeting between Ahud Barak and Putin. So those were the kind of connections that Jeffrey Epstein had. I don't think he was plugged into intelligence, but he could definitely work out something with Russian oligarchs like he did with Ahud Barak. And actually, Putin vetoed the murder, so the Israelis didn't murder him. Yeah, and then eventually, there's so much.

much going on with that. You know, they wanted to go to Syria and Russia was helping Syria defend their territory. But then the Ukraine came and Russia focused on that and then they just moved into Syria because Syria had nobody backing them at that point. And it's, it's just a crazy, crazy, crazy thing. Man, you know, what do you think is in those last, so we've gotten two, 2% of the files, you know, we got 98% more, but they tell us half of the emails are out. So whatever it is that 98% is really big files. And again, we go back to the pedo panic people, really laying their entire reputation on what they, how they've interpreted the 2% of the emails.

What is your thoughts on what is in the rest of the, the rest of the, 98%? Well, it's obviously highly explosive. I mean, the stuff that was in this latest trench, some of it was extremely explosive. So I can only imagine what those documents are. But I've said all along, we don't need another trench of documents to start prosecuting people. Sarah Kellynne, Leslie Groff, Adriana Marsenkova, and Leslie Groff. they knew all about Jeffrey Epstein's network.

And there were other hench women that knew all about Jeffrey Epstein's network. And if the Department of Justice had the will, it would subpoena all of Jeffrey Epstein's recruiters slash procureurs and indict them on multiple accounts of child trafficking. And child trafficking is a heavy sentence, as I said, in the federal system, it's 15 life. So they would indict them on, multiple counts of child trafficking, and then they would be looking at 10 lifetimes in prison,

and they would roll over on the perps in a heartbeat. It would be a RICO prosecution, essentially. And we could do that. We could do that tomorrow. We could have done that 10 years ago. And actually, one of the documents, you'll have to excuse my voice going. It's fine. I do lots of interviews these days. You're crushing. You're crushing. So when I think of that, in the latest tranche of documents, Sarah Kellan is actually hired an attorney and she wants to make a deal. Sarah Kellyn was number two. Right after Glane Maxwell, there was Sarah Kellan.

She knows everything. She knows who's blackmailed. She knows who is, who are the perps. She knows who all the victims are. Sarah Kellyn knows the entire network. And she made an overture through her lawyer to become a government witness. And our government turned her down. Oh, my God.

It's just insanity, dude. It's just insanity. Now, how do you think they pick these politicians? How early into the process? Have you learned anything about do they? because I've always thought like a big part of porn hub and giving away for free is data. What are you looking at? And what are you commenting on?

And then through this data, they can figure out who has political aspirations and can they push them forward and then eventually blackmail them. You know, like, do you think they come in with this or do they get set up? Are they willingly getting set up? I mean, no one wants to get blackmail. But like, they're the type of psychopath that's just like, fine, I don't care, just feed the beast. I believe that there's both cases. There was someone that was a mayor of a sleepy town

that ended up as a U.S. senator because he was compromised very early on. But you have to keep in mind that our politicians, they have a very potent psychological alchemy of lust, arrogance, and a lust for power. And nothing makes sense. very smart people stupid like lust and arrogance. Lust is the worst.

And look at Bill Clinton. I mean, Bill Clinton's a very smart guy, but he never met a skirt he didn't like. So I think that lust is very powerful with these guys, and that's what makes them so easy to compromise. And then a lot of them start going towards forbidden fruit. And it makes them much easier to compromise.

But when you see people that look like fine upstanding citizens, like George Mitchell, he was this old grandfatherly dude who was the Senate majority leader in the 80s. And EFSI was providing him with little girls. So regardless of what these dudes look like, they can be monastic. For sure. I mean, that's why they do so well, is they fit in. Well, it's very weird that we have term limits on a state and city level, but we don't have term limits on a federal level. And it's like, once you got someone compromised,

why do you want to have to do that again? You can keep them there 30 years feeding the beast and getting everything you want from them. That's such a good point. Lindsay Graham being the perfect example of that. Talk about a mask off, or should I say makeup? up off that guy. I mean, unbelievable. Truly.

You guys don't think Lindsey Graham is gay, do you? I mean, everybody knows, except for the reflection in the mirror, apparently. And the people that vote for him in South Carolina. Yeah. Who does this guy lose?

Who loses to that guy all the time? I lived down there for years. It's, he has such an operation down there, dude. You have no idea what. I mean, he just, yeah, he's a goddamn. They love him down there. And it's because he's a great, he's a good politician. Like, when he's one-on-one with people, you know, shaking hands, kissing babies,

he's really good at that, dude. He has like a folksy, like, warrants. It's surprisingly, I know. But he does. He's not, like, he doesn't come across, like, the lizard that he is. Do you think that anything will change, seeing that he wants to basically send their kids to a meat grinder? I love you. Yeah, when he's down there next time asking him to send their kids away, yeah, maybe.

I hope so. It's so insane to me. So I'm going to ask you the million dollar question, Nick. And it's the question that is heated on the internet. People are, again, putting their reputations on the line based on 2% of the emails being out, you know? And Joe Rogan just had a guest on. It was like, from what I can tell, there's really nothing that crazy going on in the email. And Joe's like, are you crazy?

Yeah. Like, how can you say that? So the big question is, Nick, is Trump involved? And it may seem like, duh, but there's a lot of people that have either most likely convinced himself that he's not involved or do you think he's not involved? He's been very recalcitrant about these documents coming out. Now, it's. One of two things, he's protecting someone or some entity and or himself, too.

And Donald Trump did a lot of business with the Italian mafia. And if you were building in New York in the 70s, you had to do business with the Italian mafia. He did business with the Russian mafia. And he was a friend of Epstein for a very long time. And I don't think that you really had to hang out with Jeffrey Epstein very long to know exactly what he was about. Melinda Gates spotted it very quickly. So my thoughts on it are is he very well might be compromised. There was a girl that came

forward to Katie Johnson. She was 13 years old when she said she got molested by Trump and Epstein. And she was represented by a grandstanding attorney named Lisa Blue. them. And from what I understand, now, people that I've talked to believe her. I mean, discerning people that I've talked to that met her, believe her. But from what I understand, Lisa Bloom picked her up one morning. She had deposited her in an L.A. hotel and picked her up one morning and said you're going to do a press conference. And it was right before the election, and I think Lisa Bloom was using her for political expediency. And that's when she basically recanted everything. Really? At the press conference? Right. Yeah. And so with her, I mean, there was also a supporting affidavit, too,

by a Tiffany dough. And I wanted to know what really went on there. And I spent three years looking for her. And I finally found her. She's living in the Southwest. She's selling real estate. She's actually put together a good life for herself. She's got a boyfriend.

They go to Europe. And she refuses to talk to me. Even though I took me three years to find her, she refuses to talk to me. So what am I supposed to do with that? I mean, how can I come down 100%? I'm cautious. How can I come down 100% if she's not even willing to talk to me?

So I don't know. Yeah. About that example. It's very interesting. You know, Whitney Webb had a person that said Trump was right there. You know, but, you know, and that's when it really woke me up. Because, you know, just like you, I just like you, Nick. a lot of respect. I respect you a lot and I respect her immense as well. She said that. I'm like,

well, that might mean something there. But it doesn't seem to have nothing stick, nothing concrete has come out. And again, you brought up Republicans and George Bush Sr. and the connections to the Franklin scandal, Dennis Hertz, Herzl or whatever his name was, the Haster. Haster. Yeah, he got busted for pedophilia. And maybe in the end it comes out he wasn't involved, which would be an insane thing to be surrounded by so much darkness and have the wherewithal not to get involved with it. But again, this war seems like they got something on him. They got something on Lindsey Graham. Maybe what they got is them together.

And they're just like, let's just work together. Oh, shit. Make sure this never comes out. You know, something like that. Hey, Nick, I mean, obviously, do you believe in, like, the beef jerky theories that it was a human meat? Oh, yeah, great questions. Yeah. Some of the stuff.

Okay, so I've been going through these documents and actually investigating them. And I believe that muffins, when Freud, his rap was phallic symbols. And someone pointed out to Freud that he smoked a cigar quite often. And Freud said sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. So I've gone through muffins and I've concluded that muffins are just muffins and I've concluded that steaks are just steaks. With pizza, you get something completely different. And I haven't gotten into jerky yet.

As indifferent, it just doesn't make sense, right? Yeah, I mean, so there is a producer named Barry Josephson in the emails. and Epstein hooks him up with the 16-year-old, and he's supposed to call the 16-year-old's mother. And that's who's going to, I guess the mother is pimping her 16-year-old out. Jeez. Which happens a lot. But so, and then further on the email chain,

you've got Barry Josephson talking about, Bill Gates and them having a conversation. And they're saying, how can we get rid of poor people? He didn't say, how can we get rid of poverty? He said, how can we get rid of poor people? So this guy, molest underage girls that are being overseen by their mother, and he wants to eradicate poor people from the country.

Now, he shows up in one of those. those pizza emails. And it's kind of a strange thing because Epstein says, meet me at 83rd in Lexington, and the pizza is a black away. Now, if, it's kind of like a drug dealer or something, meet me at 83rd in Lexington, and the trap house is a black away. Why wouldn't Epstein just meet him at the pizza place? And then there's one called slicing pizza, that's from Ahud Barak, and he's the nastiest of them all, according to Virginia Dupree. And then there's another one that says, alert, pizza, without anything in the body of the

email. And then Dr. Harry Fish has pizza and grape soda with Jeffrey Epstein six times. And I called up Dr. Fish. And I said, Harry, my name's Nick Bryan. I'm a journalist. And I'd like to know what type of pizza you like and what's your favorite brand of grape soda. And surprisingly, he never got back to me. I was really hurt by that.

So then I sent him an email that said essentially the same thing. And he still hasn't gotten back to me. So I know that there was PizzaGate. and I looked into Pizza Gate, and I knew that there were codes, but I couldn't find what other people were extrapolating. But with pizza, there seems to be, that seems to be a pretty definitive code with Jeffrey Epstein. When you go through the emails, it's all pretty dark,

but is there anything that shocked you that you were like, wow, this is even darker than I thought? When Mark, hold on a sit, when the UCLA neuroscientist is talking to Epstein about how to get infants to suck harder, that, that kicked me in the gut. I mean, that, that was so malignant that I just, I just, I was somebody, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, been exposed to a lot of stuff over the years. But I'd never been exposed to something like that. What did it say exactly? It was telling Jeffrey Epstein that how to get an infant to suck harder.

Oh, geez. It's crazy. And this guy had an MD and a PhD and he was at a neuroscientist at UCLA. He's off the website now. And they're not renewing his contract. And then there was a. The grace we give these people. There was a torture.

You know, the torture comes up occasionally. And this shake sent Jeffrey Epstein, or I, we talked about an early guy from the United Area Emirates, sent Jeffrey Epstein a torture video. And Epstein said, you know, I loved the torture video. Torture also comes up with a Harvard mathematician. And it's a little more opaque. It isn't straightforward. I mean, they could be talking about something else. But I sent an email to the mathematician,

and I just wanted to ask him if he was talking about torturing humans or girls or what he was talking about torturing. And he never got back to me. I was, again, I was offended by that. But he is no longer with Harvard at this point. So these emails are having a ripple effect. But Les Wexner lied to Congress about his relationship with Jennifer Epstein. He told multiple lies that I can demonstrate.

So we need, you know, just as a start, Les Wexner should be indicted for perjury before Congress. And that's a five-year sentence. I think society needs four pillars to function properly. It needs to, you know, combat. It can't allow crime stealing. It can't allow unnecessary violence. We must protect children at all costs.

And we must shun lying. And it just seems like lying is so acceptable now, whether it's in front of Congress or on Twitter, just saying blatantly false stuff. with no ramifications at all. I don't know how you change that. Well, we can start by making sure our government doesn't aid in a bad child trafficking. I think that that would be a good start.

Have you heard any new news or anything that we haven't heard about Zorro Ranch and him impregnating females and all that? Yeah, Zorro Ranch, I was going to ask you about that. Your thoughts, they're supposedly trying to go through the ranch now. I doubt there's anything there. It's been so long. Did they say there's a couple bodies buried? They're supposed to do like a like where they look under the ground type of shit, some lightar stuff. Sonar.

Yeah, to look up for bodies. Okay, so that document is very fallible. The document where there's two bodies buried. What happened there was there's a New Mexico talk show host named Eddie Arrigan. And someone had written that to Eddie Arrigan and also said that he had child pornography videos. And he told Eddie Ergen that if Eddie Errigan gave him one Bitcoin, he would give that material to Eddie Errigan. So that document is highly suspect right out of the gate, just because of the genesis of it. And I called Eddie Errigan, and he never got back to me. I was going to ask

if he gave him a Bitcoin, but I don't think that he did. even though he never got back to me you know a lot of my investigations people just don't get back to me it's kind of i'm a nice guy you are a nice guy you're a wonderful interview we're not going to keep you long because your voice is going through and you probably got about 14 other podcasts today so we don't want to ruin you for the rest of them uh Epstein justice what is it how can we help how can we participate uh what would you like people to do i would like to hook up with your buddy scotty right out of the gate i can make that happen Yeah, he sounds like a good guy. So with Epstein Justice, we want an independent congressional commission. And as I said earlier, the independent congressional commission would have two objectives. One, we want to know why the government covered up child trafficking. And two, we want the perpetrators to be prosecuted. Now, independent congressional commissions often farm out investigations to non-government personnel.

And that is the only chance that we're going to have with this to get truth is through an independent congressional commission that's farming out an investigation to non-government personnel. Like it might incorporate me or someone like me who is very up on this case. There's a number of us. And that is, I believe, going to be the best shot to clean out our government that we're ever going to have in our lifetime. or we might ever have as Americans because our leaders are determined to take us off a clip. Yep. The middle class.

I mean, the middle, and the reason why the middle class is disintegrating is because of legislation that are politicians. Yeah. Yep. So we need to fix this now. And this is going to be our only opportunity. And I know there's three trends that are bucking this. there's three trends that are bucking this. You've got the right-left divide, which the media and our politicians have enabled, well,

people on the right thing, people on the left are mentally ill and vice versa. I met a woman in New York who thought the only solution was a two-state solution. I mean, so you've got that trend. We're divided and conquered. If something, if you're on the right and something goes bad, you blame it on the left. If you're on the left and something goes wrong, you blame it on the right. So we're divided and conquered. The next trend is that superimposed on that is as Americans, we've been conditioned to believe we can affect change.

Yes. We've been conditioned that way. So you're superimposing those two things. And then the third thing is our politicians are compromised. So you're superimposing three trends on each other. But now is the time. And I know this. This is the only issue that can bring the right and left together.

I've been in the anti-trafficking. I've spoken at a bunch of anti-trafficking conferences over the years. And a huge constituent of anti-trafficking people are on the feminist left. and the religious right. And we have no problems working with each other over this issue. So this is the issue that can unite right and left. And I believe that with these documents, or can, as I said before, awareness acceptance action, I think we're going to reach a critical mass of acceptance where we can't have a sea change. But Epstein Justice is going to need a lot of help. We're growing. And when I started this, I didn't, I didn't know what I was doing at all.

You know, I didn't have a clue. Someone had to start it. So I started it. And now we have a definitive path, and we have a definitive plan. We have monthly webinars where we get into Epstein-related information. Our next monthly webinar is going to be on the 24th. And we're going to talk to some Epstein victims about how the latest tranche of documents has not been beneficial to them at all. And then we also have Facebook groups by state, and we're populating these Facebook groups so we can have groups that are big enough to put pressure on their legislators, their federal legislators. And we need donations, too. And someone asked me a while back, why do you need money? And so we, because of what we are doing and we have 501

C3 status, our bookkeeping has to be pristine. So we pay an accountant. And, you know, when someone, when that person said to me, why do you need money? I said, well, you know, I just cut up our accountant in a check. And I didn't ask her that. Should I go ask my accountant, which needs money for. So we need donations, and that would be hugely helpful. Well, we'll make sure the link is at top. This is the final question. I don't want to push it.

But if you had anybody to be on these committees, is there anybody your thinking would be really great to be on these committees? Because it just seems like it's a swamp full of swamp creatures. Is there anyone in particular you think would be really great, representing your side on this, this hearing? On the commission, Thomas Massey and Rokana have endorsed Epstein Justice. I trust those two guys. That would be a great start.

And there's other people, too, like Nancy Mace. Yeah. So there are people that we can trust to be on this commission. Do you think it gets to the point where it's such political, the feeling of the masses is so strong that these people might not have to worry about their safety as much, that the momentum is so strong that if anything happens to these people, it makes it even worse than before? I do. And momentum, the reason why we've got all these documents now is because of momentum. That's the only reason why. And we just have to keep up the pressure before the battle was for the documents.

And I doubt that we're going to get in more documents, but we don't need any more documents, as I've explained. So we need, once the American populace, there's 300 million adults in the United States. States, around 300. If we had 10% of those adults, if we had 30 million people be part of Epstein justice, we would be a juggernaut. We would not be able to be stopped. When the Revolutionary War went down, a third were with our founding fathers, a third were Tories, and a third or neutral. So we just need 30%. We need 10% of Americans to do the right thing and we will have a juggernaut. And we will be able to change society. I do believe that. And again, I've never been diagnosed as delusional. Okay. Nick, this is great. We appreciate your power throughing with your

voice. It means a lot to us. It's always honor to have you on the show. You're doing the Lord's work. One more time, tell them where they can go to find you and where they can find Epstein Justice. Epsteinjustice.com. There's our landing page right there. And if you want to look at the books I've written or the blogs I've written, you can go to Nick Bryant, NYC.com. All right, man. Well, both all those links in the description, please support Nick. I'm going to do it as soon as I get off. And Nick, man, as a always it's an honor to have you on you come and talk to us on our crazy little show so we always

do appreciate it and open door whenever you want come on brother okay dude thank you so much thank you guys let's break down the show all right guys what did you think of nick bryant one of our greatest journalists of our generation of this generation or any generation all the generations dude i wanted like i wanted to like i wanted to see the little black book probably has it, right? Right? Yeah. It'll be nice. I mean, that's crazy to get that. Because there's only one of them, right? Or do you just get a copy? I don't know. That's scary to have. Like, they'd, that is scary to have. Like, I think you would someone go and be like, hey, this guy has it. Let's go get it from a house. You're messing with power. That's power.

Truly. And they, they kill. Well, he was like, his name was on the list. Yeah, his name was, his name was in the emails. Yeah. And not in a good way. I was in like, hey, this is our friend. Guys, I know we're keeping this line open for pedophiles, but that Nick Bryant, what a great guy, huh? I would love for him to get the interviews he wants, you know, with some of these guys. Oh, those phone calls that he never gets returned. Well, Johnny, I'm asking John because he follows NFL.

Do you follow NFL? No, no, no. So do you hear that the Giants owner moved ownership of the Giants to his family, to his kids trust. Wait, because of the Epstein's? Yep. Really? Because he's worried they'll come after it.

Yep. That makes sense. I mean, dude. I heard that there's pictures of Cohen in there too, right? From the Mets? Like, I heard that... Of course there is. He's a rich-ass fucking New Yorker.

Johnny. Dude, David Stern was in it. That's insane. Dude, I honestly... I completely forgot that Stern died. Like, I totally forgot, man. He was a Mandela. effect. Yeah, possibly. Yeah, I totally

forgot that he was dead. But in Europe, they're firing and arresting people. Here, they're like, I'm going to take a sabbatical. That surprises me, too. Like, I would think that they would be just as embell. I'll tell you why, Johnny, because... Not doing anything.

America, they use our Federal Reserve and our military for all of their, the way they control power, the way they manufacture culture. So this, once once the first domino falls and there will be a domino, then you're going to start seeing heads roll.

But they're holding off for as long as they can. And Nick's whole thing about trying to get a committee, I would love to do it. I just don't know what kind of teeth they'll have. How could it have teeth? They aren't going to do that. I mean, the biggest thing you can do is get them. I mean, you got to arrest people who lie,

under oath. There's literally two guys that give a shit about this, maybe three people total. It's like, you know, I mean within the office, you know what I mean? Like that are really trying. Yeah. I mean, hopefully, I mean, I know everyone thinks elections. I think elections are rigged to a point if they can make it seem like it's close.

That's what polls are about. Polls are mental psychological operations get you believe that their lizard is doing well compared to the guy you think is going to do well. See, I have a little conspiracy theory about this. Remember? By the way, it was not jizz on my shirt. Oh, yeah, by the way, I have a totally different outfit on.

Yeah, you're good on this one. There is, remember they used to do exit polls, like, that they would put out when, and they said they didn't put those, they stopped putting those out because they didn't want to influence people not to go vote. But what I think it is, is that they needed time to change their results. And that change after. Hillary Clinton. Yeah.

And they say if the exit polls are off 2 to 3% that there's fraud going on. And so they stop publishing them. Yep. In that window of time. Yeah. 100%, dude. If you go to Sam Tripoli, you can get my dates

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Oh, you don't have a lot. We're doing shit. We're in these streets, though. Dude, we are in these streets. Word War debate. It's going to happen in April. this week we'll find out if we have some funding. When do you think in April if you

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Master debater, huh? Yeah, see. The master debater. Yeah, we're finding the next great debater. That guy competes it, Sam. Yeah, yeah. The GM of the Ravens says, I understand how people might feel that way from afar,

but nobody's more upset about this than us. I'm gutted by it, actually. Yeah, you can tell you. as you guys treated Max Crosby cold as he showed up. He goes, it was weird energy, you know. He's so full shit. But back to Nick Bryant. We love him.

I mean, the fact that some guy would slum like that with us is a blessing. Good energy. He has great energy. And the key to the interview was trying to find stuff that maybe we hadn't talked about yet. I wanted to be a lot fresher. so I asked questions that I hadn't had answers to, and I wanted to make sure that the episode was great. Well, this Epstein thing is like an onion, too.

Just the more you learn, the more questions you have about shit. It's truly insane. Do you think, oh, wait a, before you're, do you think Trump's in it? Because he says he's just not even... Well, I mean, again, I didn't think Trump had anything to do it to the Whitney Webb interview with the victim.

So I'm open-minded to any of it. I'm not going to go either way. This, this... It's funny. The people in the comments now are going to, like, be like, he's sucking Trump off. He loves Trump now. I don't love Trump.

If it was Clinton, you would say he was definitely a PDF. Because there's, like, a million different relationships. And you could say Trump. I'm just saying, there's something that says Trump did it. I'm all four taking them. I'm just... There's somebody saying it, though. I mean, it's what they were saying.

You know what I mean? But we got the guy that, like, started the investigation. saying he hasn't seen anything yet. That's all I'm saying. It's like, dude, I don't care who the fuck you are. You do this awful shit? Also, Trump's a murderer now. So, I mean, he's done bad shit.

The only thing that makes me think that he is is because he went pro-Israel. Yeah, other than that, if it wasn't for Israel, I was like, there's no way. They don't have anything on him. 100%. That's the only thing where I'm like, they have to have something. The stuff they have on Lindsay Graham's, it's so bad. He must be getting his shit split. Yeah, what was it?

Laura Lumer's suit, right, is where all that shit's coming out now about about Lindsey Graham being a gay, gay fella. Yeah. I mean, dude, it's all the, I mean, you don't even need her to say it to wait. No. Oh, God, we just, I don't even care about you guys. I'm with Israel. You know, it's like, get the fuck out of it.

Even Matt Walsh, who is just chugging on Zio Dick, is like, dude, how are you a senator? He's been better. How are you a senator saying this stuff? as Ben Shapiro's eyebrows get bigger and bigger. He's the worst. How do you have anybody watching that? I don't believe any of his views at all. I bet it's a lot of old people.

But the numbers are... They just love him. He looks like my grandson. You know, these guys. They're so anti-Semitic. You should have seen him go after Pierce Morgan. He did a whole thing on him, and then Pierce Morgan went after him.

Now they're like beefing. It's kind of entertaining. Pierce Morgan seems. have come to our side. Yeah. Yeah, that gives me credit. I give him credit for having an open mind. You know, anybody that changes their mind publicly, I give a lot of credit to. Yeah, and we should allow people the right to change their mind. Yeah, not. And that's why I'm not big to condemn people who have, you know. You're not big to Kempe Matumbo? Oh, boy. I love Dekembe. All right, guys, enjoy the highlights. Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. This is the most shocking thing. And Johnny, I got to ask you something.

do you feel that he might be saying this because Bibby and we is dead like let's let's go into the assumption that baby's dead or is he just like I got screwed by everyone around me and they lied to me hold on just a second I think it might have when we went full screen I'm going to this I mean I'm going to say something about Trump yeah and this includes Obama he doesn't age dude everybody else does he no he no like dude he is built for this even when the sky is falling and the house is on fire this dude never ages no but his his his his his mind is getting soft you can tell oh dude i talked to my dad today he's he's starting to lose it i can sense it yeah he just has to be weird shit he's asked me about my sister

i'm like i don't have a sister so yeah yeah i would not put my father in charge of the nukes all right here we go it's good we don't need you know We don't need oil. We have all the oil we need. Oh, my God. One of the great assets that we have. We have double, more than double what anybody else in terms of oil production. We're at more than double any other countries.

So we don't need it, but we did it. It's almost, you could say we did it at a habit, which is not a good thing to do. I mean, dude, just giving it all the way. We have some good allies there. We have some great Middle Eastern countries there, Israel there. so we did it for a lot of reasons but zero we don't need you know that's it

well no this okay this is so that was part one of this thing and like of him being stupid and then all right I mean that wasn't even the word I mean he does say that basically don't spoil it I'll play I'll play but basically here can I comment what we already saw Johnny yeah of course Johnny dude who's this guy running

well no I just I think it like it's it's to hear it out of his own mouth but really the thing isn't it for him to basically say is which is like Israel got us into this. I mean, and I'm going to say something I'm probably going to hear, I'll probably hear Jeffrey Wilson from wherever he is right now, just throw his computer. But I mean, you can say whatever you want about Q and there's a lot to say.

But man, more and more, it seems like it's right. And it's like, I've said it before, Operation Trust told you everything. and that last line will save Israel for last. I mean, dude, he just threw Israel under the bus. Yeah, I mean, I, boy, that's generous to Q. I'll just say that is mighty generous to Q what you're saying there. Dude, Johnny, don't double screen it.

No, no, I'm not. Please, Johnny. The people can't handle double action. They don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what you're talking about. They didn't see that. I'm out here rocking. All right, so we'll look at this now.

this is the crazy shit I've ever seen. Yeah, this is... I never thought I'd see a president say this. Yeah, I mean, you'd kind of hope not. You wouldn't hear the president say something that stupid. This is the dumbest of dumb. Never forget that. Never forget.

I'm so happy to be back in the studio. I miss it. Really? Nobody expected that. Oh, dude. And power. Look what happened. In the last two weeks, they weren't supposed to go after all these other countries.

What? those missiles were set to go after them. So they hit Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait. Nobody expected that. We were shot and power. Dude, look what happened. That was the craziest thing you've ever heard in your life. Yes.

I mean, you've just said that Iran outsmarted the U.S. military and Pentagon. I mean, dude, that is shocking. I mean, it is a breath of fresh air in some ways that he's being totally honest, right, in some weird way. Yeah, but do you think he, like, is totally with it, like, what he's saying there? Oh, so you think he might be fully just stupid, right? No, I mean, he's been doing that shit repeatedly over the past year. So I would say saying shit that clearly he's not supposed to say,

and then he'll come back later and, like, clarify, like, Well, we plan for that, of course. But you know what I mean? Like, he's, I don't know. Dude, that is the most shocking shit I've ever seen. I'm saying, to be clear, what I'm saying is I'm not giving him. That's the only way I can be bad. He's, I give him no credit for this.

If that's what you're saying, like you're giving credit for being honest or something or not. I'm saying in a weird way. Yeah, in a really weird way. In a really weird, get mask, ball gag kind of way. It's funny. I have this thing. I think anytime you were actually saying in a weird way, what you mean is like not at Like is it because you got you and actually both say that in a weird way.

No, what I'm saying in a weird way is like you kind of got to search for it. Yeah, you got to search real. You got to search really hard on going, hey man, at least he's being honest. Yeah, you got to be. You know, like the house is on fire. But guess what? Our family pictures are fine, right? Yeah, totally.

You know what I'm saying? Like, absolutely. Like you're just trying to find something to find a silver lining in this. Like, and by the way. way, by the way, if you're anti-war, this is the best thing you've ever heard in your life. That the war machine, the global terrorist, got beat out strategy-wise. And it's like, again, this gets into weird stuff where as an American, you love being American. I know I love being American.

Does that mean I think America is perfect or even close to perfect? No, right? Of course, yeah. Right? You're like, dude, we got to, we got like, we've terrorized the rest of the world for a very long time. And everyone said forever, don't go in Iran. Don't go in the Iran. Iran has been waiting for this for 20 years, Johnny.

Someone is somebody, he's probably not even live again to see his idea come to fruitation. But he's probably like. Frutation. Fruition. Fruition. Or fruitation. Or fruitation. I like fruitation.

I like fruitation. Sounds like a drink. It sounds like a nice, like a cocktail. Come on, down to Jamba Juice. Get yourself a fruitation. Okay. Who are you talking about there, though? You're saying their idea come to fruition.

Whoever in Iran was like, all we're going to do is bomb at all the allies. And that's going to put a lot of pressure on them. And I'm going to tell you something, Johnny. This is a great idea. And how do I know that? Because this is what I do in heckling. Okay. Yes.

I just said, I'm a chess chess master. So a long time ago, dude. A long time ago, I learned this in comedy. If a man is heckling you and he is on a date or with his wife or with any female, start pounding on her. Okay. Because he will learn to shut up real quick because you're either one, ruining his date or two, pissing off his wife. And he's going to have to sleep on the couch that night. So I remember.

Backfire where a guy gets like gets in his feels and gets mad. Yeah, sure. But you know who's even more mad than that? His wife, his girlfriend. Yeah. So, so there's a comic named Lewis Planker. And she, she testified at the Michael Jackson trial. She was like, she was like a host at the Laugh Factory for a very long time, dude.

Like she was hosting there forever. Very nice person. I really, really enjoyed her. Very cool chick. She was like she would be she would she looked super nerdy short hair glasses and we were at the laugh factory and this guy was just heckling everybody and she was next and she was all worried by go listen if he comes after you start pounding on his girlfriend start pounding on the chick he's sitting with start ripping into her he'll shut up real quick so she walks up starts doing Sam he starts heckling her she starts going at the girlfriend he shut up real quick. quick. That's exactly what Iran did. Started hitting all Trump's girlfriends. Oh, and he loves them too.

He loves his girlfriends. He loves them, dude. He loves his girlfriends. He loves his girlfriends. Dude, he's like, who knew they would do that? And everybody? That's where I don't give him any credit because it's clear he got lied to. Yes, by the most evil human being on plant earth. Well, now that a bunch of them are dead. Shout out to the 72 people watching us on Rumble, by the way.

Guys, listen. We're going to figure out the right time to do this. It's a weird schedule because I have my kids and I need to see my kids and we need to do this on a consistent basis. So we're just trying to figure out the best time to do this. I agree though. He got, yeah, he got led by the nose into this. And by his daughter's husband, who everyone thinks is a new Epstein. Which, you know, you bring that up. Here's a really, Did you see that Chris Christie interview this week? I can't watch that guy. He sucks.

He is literally one of the worst human beings. No, he sucks. Anything that comes out Chris Christie's mouth, just assume the opposite is true. Well, then this might actually make you like Jared Kushner. But let me, so Chris Christie was doing an interview on, what is it? We the fifth, it looks like. I don't know what that is. No, it's the new network.

The new network. It's kind of a new network. and Dana. Yeah, but this is, this is a... He'll do a show for anybody. Chris Christie? Yeah, Brazzers could hit up Chris Christie, and he'd do a fucking show for that. I mean, he's got some boobies, that's for sure. He's a big fella. He's, he, I'm, his dad would be embarrassed.

So this is, this tells you where the power, in my opinion, lies in the White House. The day that Trump was naming me, he went into Trump's office and said, you can't do this. Cushner. And made the argument against me in front of him. of me. In front of you. Oh, yeah. And what was the argument? I'm immoral. Calistral, diabetes. And you're sitting there. Oh, yeah. He said it was immoral. And said that, you know, it should have never been prosecuted. It wasn't a crime. It was something that should have been handled by the rabbis. Oh. Because it was a family dispute. Oh. That's going to fuel some

anti-semitism right there. And I was thinking to myself like I didn't know that. Stop. Stop. I am so sick and tired of that. Yeah. Yeah. Stop it, man. Just stop it. You know you want to stop anti-Semitism? Stop doing shitty shit. That's it, dude. I'm so sick and tired of this guy, and I don't even like this, dude. I think he's up.

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