Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #985 Lost Civilization Code: Cosmograms & Hidden Architecture With Matt LaCroix P2

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

Serving as a continuation of Part 1, Part 2 of the interview with Matt LaCroix on Tin Foil Hat expands on his overarching narrative about hidden knowledge and control systems throughout history. He introduces the idea of "The Mes" as a lost source of universal truth, claiming that ancient wisdom—once widely understood—has been deliberately concealed by secret societies. Building on earlier themes, he points to recurring symbols in ancient architecture that reflect a trinity of body, soul, and mind, suggesting a deeper, encoded spiritual framework. LaCroix argues that this knowledge was not only suppressed but weaponized, with organized religion and war used to eradicate Hermetic practitioners. He also presents the Renaissance as a reemergence of these suppressed ideas, before concluding that modern religious institutions continue to promote distorted narratives as a means of maintaining control.  Please subscribe to the new Tin Foil Hat youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@TinFoilHatYoutube Sam Tripoli's 5th Crowd Work Special "Hero Live From Batavia" Drops May 2nd On Youtube.com/SamTripoliComedy Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/415fDfY Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Tuesday At 4pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now! Go to https://www.samtripoli.gold/ and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show. CopyMyCrypto.com: The 'Copy my Crypto' membership site shows you the coins that the youtuber 'James McMahon' personally holds - and allows you to copy him. So if you'd like to join the 1300 members who copy James, then stop what you're doing and head over to: https://copymycrypto.com/tinfoilhat/ You'll not only find proof of everything I've said - but my listeners get full access for just $1 Grab Tickets To Sam Tripoli's Live Shows At SamTripoli.com: Dallas, TX: 4/24 Fort Worth, TX: 4/25 Austin, TX: (Live Taping Of My New Comedy Special) 5/22 Albuquerque, NM: 6/12-6/13 Austin, TX: The 100th Episode Of Tin Foil Hat 6/18 Lawerence, KS: 9/17-9/19 Tulsa, OK: 10/9-10/10 Austin, TX: 12/11-12/13   Please check out Word War Debate and the WordWarDebate Contenders Series: https://wordwardebate.com   Please check out Matt LaCroix's internet: Website: hestageoftime.com Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@MatthewLaCroix Patreon: patreon.com/MatthewLaCroix Books: https://amzn.to/3OMv4Wo  Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedy  Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/%20P Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/ 1-800-Flowers: Please support our sponsors:Mother's Day is Sunday, May 10th and bouquets are selling out fast. Trust me, don't wait. To claim your Double Roses offer before they're gone, visit 1 800 Flowers dot com slash TINFOIL. That's 1 800 Flowers dot com slash TINFOIL. 1 800 Flowers dot com slash TINFOIL. True Werk: TRUEWERK is hell-bent on creating the most technical, high-performance workwear in the world. The TRUEWERK story begins in the Colorado mountains where a trade worker knew there had to be a better solution than the wet, heavy gear that was weighing him down.  Check out the full lineup and get 15 percent off your first order at TRUEWERK.com/tinfoil.    

When I found this, I was like, what is going on? They're making fractal miniature representations of the structure of the universe into a fractal form of a small monolith, and then creating giant temples to be larger and larger versions of that same concept. That's why they all have the shapes they do. Oh, what the fuck are you guys people talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. and a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to tinfoil hat.

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I am the descendant of a Samarian king. You know, yeah, yes, kings. Kings. Go Kings, dog. It's very excited about that. He heard that from our guest. He's back for part two. Very excited. Straight from Mount Crushmore. Matt LaCroix, how are you, buddy? Hey, Sam's good to be back. We couldn't fit it all into the last one. So it was good that we broke these up into two pieces, I think. Yeah, well, every time you come on, it's a double banger, double banger. So we're very excited to do part two. So Matt, for those who might have, not seen the last episode or maybe didn't see your other episodes. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you one more time? Sure. My name is Matthew LaCroix. You could call me a lost civilization explorer, right?

I delve into our ancient origins. The tried to find evidence around the world, which I'm convinced of, is of a chapter of our history, a lost chapter of our history that has not yet been acknowledged by mainstream academia. So that is my crusade, which has, of course, led to a whole other avenue of ancient knowledge and incorporating, which is what this show is, is a part two from the last one we did. So the last one we laid out ancient timelines, emergence of civilization, right? Shrewpac and Zayasudra, this legacy story. And we went all the way through these anomalies around the world to point out the same symbols crossing over, the same. the same building styles, this code, right, this ancient code.

And so today we're going to be delving into that code. And for anybody who's interested to go deeper into this, of course, you can find my website the stage of time.com and my latest book, The Missing Key, Ancient Code of a Lost Civilization that lays all this out. But this, of course, is a more comprehensive look that we're going to go deep into these symbols, what I believe they mean, and how I believe, it's an ancient code that unlocks a enormous area of knowledge that we have been tracing called the MES back in the first show, these divine laws of heaven and earth.

And that is what I believe has been encoded and that we're going to explore today, Sam, if you're okay with that. I love it, Matt. You must be the most interesting person at your high school reunion. So what are you up to, man? I'm just studying the history of ancient civilizations. That must be fun. I haven't gone to my high school reunion.

You got to go, bro, just to brag. You got to go just to brag. Yeah, nobody with shit going on goes to their reunion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that crazy, dude? I missed my first one. Anyways, but I went back. But very excited about, very excited to hear more about the me's.

So where would you like to start? Well, we're going to jump in where we left off last time. So where we left off was we're following a code, right? we're following these similar symbols that step pyramid inverted and non-inverted, so upright and then upside down, and these three doors, and these mysterious T symbols, remember? This passing of pine cone, ancient knowledge through the pine cone symbol and the tree of life. And we're following some kind of a code that carries over cross-continentally on three continents, which is not supposed to exist, let alone. in the accepted time frame we're told in ancient history,

as in the last 6,000 years, but of course, even far before that. So we're going to be jumping into that today. Matt, is the mees the pine cone? The handbag, I would consider the handbag, the me's. And that the pine cone is passing pieces of that knowledge to civilizations to create it. So, like, the handbag that they're holding, it's like all knowledge.

It's the knowledge of the me. It's like all knowledge. And then the pine cone is then passing that knowledge to create civilizations, in my opinion. Wow. That's crazy. I love that we call it a handbag, too. It's probably with some secret, like, vessel to pass the knowledge. They're like, and it's a handbag.

Well, remember, a lot of things aren't necessarily literal. We have to try to imagine, and I will, I'll just quickly say this, is that. there's a very important ancient researcher named mainly P. Hall. And he writes all of these books about ancient esoteric knowledge in humanity, right? Ancient mysticism. And he has this very important quote. And he says, once humanity learns the secrets of symbolism, a great veil will lift for their understanding. Now, because a lot of ancient things are not necessarily literal.

Give you an example, Ketsaquado, right, and Kuku Khan, the dragon gods of the Aztec and Maya and the pre-Maya and pre-Asteck. That was not a real dragon. It's an ancient, it's a teacher who is trying to represent knowledge through a serpent reaching its highest form and ascending into a dragon. and we're going to be getting into dragons and serpents a lot today. It's a very important metaphor and a very important way to connect back this knowledge. And that's why I emphasize so much. Remember way back in shows, Sam, when we talked about America and the original name of America that came from South America with Amaru, the ancient dragon god in which the indigenous

people say that America was originally called Amaruka, the land of the land of the the feathered dragons. Yes. The name of America came from, not an Italian explorer, because the ancient indigenous understood that it was a land that was founded by this, which I believe was the same reoccurring individual, like a dragon god, which in this case goes back to Thoth and ancient Hermes, and which you can see the serpents, and we're going to get into all that today.

But that's the point I'm trying to make is that I would strongly, consider that people remember there are literal aspects to truth. Right. So we're listening, we were discussing the epic of Gilgamesh and how he was a tyrant king of the city of Uruk. That's literal. He was a real king and there was a real city called Urock. But then when we get into him fighting bulls and the sky and the heavens, then you're getting into allegory, not real. So I just want to lay that down as we go forward so that people understand a lot of these symbols. and these concepts and these motifs, their purpose is to encode large amounts of knowledge

so that it can be carried and passed on so that we can understand it. And that's one of the themes that I really want to highlight on this. Can you guys see this? Yep. Okay, so does that make sense, Sam? Yes, totally. I love exactly what you're talking about.

So here is where I want to start. And then we're going to get really into the, down the rabbit hole today. That last show wasn't down the rabbit hole. This is down the rabbit hole because we actually go into the underworld. And that's what I mean by that. So buckle up guys, because this is going to be pretty exciting. So this is a place called Chavuz-Tepa, again, in the Vaughn region that Sam's great, great, great, great, great, ancestors were so crazy, dude.

I mean, I'm just joking. I mean, obviously Sam didn't, his family didn't have anything to do with building. Stop, stop. You don't know that. You don't know that. You don't know. But he's the lineage that goes back to this region, which is really interesting that hopefully he's going to explore his connections to Vaughn and his family ties. But this is in the Vaughn region. And this, here you see the three pillars in the front. And this is that mysterious civilization, that lost chapter we're exploring. Right. Sam, when you look at that stonework, does that not look like it was made yesterday? Right? It's incredible. I can't believe how pristine it still looks. I mean, obviously, there's a little chip on the couple of sides, but it's clean, right? That's really clean for something. Yeah, there's more left of this than there was of the Twin Towers after. Well, it's because of the building material. So they are building was one of the hardest stones in the world. This is, and that's why one of the reasons it can last the test of time in which we don't do that. In fact, this is a great way to point out that concrete is the primary way that we,

We build things in the world, which is an incredibly poor usage of our materials because it doesn't last. It doesn't have any of the signature energetic things that stone has. It literally doesn't last more than like 40 or 50 years. So imagine that, right? We're building a building. I know there was steel and other things involved in the Twin Towers. But what I'm trying to say is that they built in a way back then that we don't really build in a way now. And what we're looking at is something that I believe is 40,000 years old.

And it's so sharp, you can almost cut your finger on those edges. And I've been there at least five times. And I'm always amazed by this site. But I just want to introduce this as we go forward because look at the three pillars right here. Now, get ready because the theme of three and all of this is going to be repeating all over the place. How would you describe this, Matt, For people listening at home, what we're looking at. On audio, we're looking at an ancient basalt temple that's sitting at top more primitive younger work in which the Uraltian civilization of 20,100 years ago built, propped it up, the remnants of this.

And we know that because there's another temple just like this above it on the hill, but it's all blown up. So this material basalt was what I believe is, of course, the original construction. of the site and there are three entryway pillars as you as you go in and that is the concept I wanted to echo as we go forward here so here we go we're going to start in this the three doors this is where it gets really sort of like start to you know go down that rabbit hole now I showed the three pillars now you can see the three doors which is also very similar to the kef bob relief we talked about which has which has the three doors as well that we'll be getting back to.

And you refer to them as T's? Well, there's step pyramids and then there's T's, and then there's three doors. So there's really three primary sets of symbols that are all often used interchangeably that we're going to be following here, and we're going to build off of their complexity in what they mean.

Now, they all relate to each other, though. And they're based off of this concept. The idea that there are three, representations of concepts of the structure of the universe and the balance within that. So the step pyramid design like we've been following before, see, with all of these designs around the world, they're showing the structure of the universe, which we're going to get into, okay? But then the T, as we, as we're going to talk about, is more like the balance of that.

And then the doors represent the three. levels of that structure. So let's dive in and that's, I want to, that's where we're basically going to go right now. So on the left is Napa and Glaci. It's in Peru. This had a third level.

So it's your step pyramid and your three doors in one. Yeah. But level, the Spanish when they came, put a piece of dynamite and blew the entire top of the block. Well, not only was it something maybe they found blasphemous because of religion, but there was also talk.

of being gold inside and other metals. So you can maybe a combination of both. But you can see how there was a third level. And when you sit in this guys, you can feel it. This is incredible energetically. And I do believe that this right here is a type of ancient technology. So we'll get into that. So now you can see the mimicking of the three doors.

This is Cambodia. And then you see the mimicking of three doors and the step pyramid. There are no T's here, but there are T's as we go. So here is the backside of the Sungate in Bolivia. Again, the other side. And you have your doorways, your T's. Remember your inverted step pyramids built into this. But most importantly, the three doors.

Now, the three-door concept, remember this, and then remember when we get all the way to Da Vinci with the Last Supper. because you're going to see that this knowledge has been encoded all throughout ancient history. So here we see what I really want to point out and remember, look, the middle door is always the biggest. Remember that. The middle door is always the biggest. Interesting. Because the middle door represents physical reality.

The manifestation of physical reality, which is like the stage of reality of the universe. Yes. Now, it means that these two, the left and the right door, they manifest this. I can't emphasize that enough, meaning that these two, their purpose. The celestial realm, it says, and the underworld realm manifest the physical reality. Exactly. So what they understood was the ancient cultures, and this is when I figured out the word cosmogram, remember, that's what led this to this whole road.

they understood that the universe is only made up into three pieces and that that concept of three is what's called a fractal that repeats itself in every level every single level from the smallest level to the largest level it just keeps repeating itself so remember that and they they realized that the three represent the three realms that's the structure of the universe now how did I figure that out? When I was studying this and working in ancient Egypt, the best thing that the ancient dynastic Egyptians did in terms of something good and not the bad things,

like recarving the sphinx's head, is that they did carry down these teachings very, very well. If anybody wants to read things like the Book of the Dead, and others in ancient Egypt, they mastered their understanding of the left door, the underworld, but also understandings of the celestial realms. and they very much understood this very well. So when you're reading about their writings,

you see that they talk about three realms of reality. And they, and then not, it's not only the Egyptians, it's ancient cultures around the world. They all understood that there's only three pieces of the universe. Now, I need to emphasize this very strongly. The middle door, physical reality, is the only physical realm. the other two, the underworld that religion then turned into hell, and the celestial realms that religion turned into heaven,

are metaphysical realities, realms. They are not space. They are not a cave somewhere. That's a fractal understanding, but it's not the real realm. They are actual realms of reality that we cannot get to unless there are certain meditative, meditative, shamanic or psychedelic drugs involved or even certain technology. Is it always the case that the middle door, the physical reality door, is the only actual

door also? Well, they're always shown as doors. Right. What I'm saying is that's the only one in this image that you could actually walk through in on this point anyway. Well, how would you describe this image? Because it's physical. Right.

What I'm asking is, is that all, every time you disappear, is that, is that pretty typical? No, like here's an example. Look, the only thing, the only similarity is that the doors are going to be different sizes. The middle is always going to be biggest. That's really like the constant there. Now, as you talked about, how would you describe this what we're looking at right now, John? So we're looking at what's called the Gate of the Sun in Tijuana. And it's the backside, though.

Most people look at the front with Viracotia. Now, the back shows three doors or three windows, depending on you want to interpret it. Or one door or two windows. Just in this structure. it looks like. Yeah. And so what do you have are three windows or three doors. And they basically represent these three aspects of the structure of reality of the universe.

Okay. And they, they, the ancient cultures, the ancient civilizations understood this to the point where they mapped it out. So it wasn't just like, oh, we,

we recognize that it exists. No, we will map it out. And then I believe, firmly based on my evidence in studying this, that they then created technology. to be able to bridge them. Does that make sense?

Yes, it does. So you said that religion took these and gave them different meanings. Now, that celestial realm became heaven, the underworld became hell. Was there any connotations that those were actual kind of vibes of each of those places, meaning that was that, is the underworld a dark place? of, let's say, demons and all that stuff. And the celestial realm is of angels and stuff like that. So I will pull up the slide after that shows all that,

but it'd be good just to talk about it first before I jump back into the slide. There have been deceitful things done in history. I'm sure you're not surprised by that. Okay. Surprise. Who I'm talking to you right now, of course. this knowledge as we're going deeper into it, like we've just begun. When you see where it leads to, you will understand why the church blocked it off.

Okay. Christian monotheistic religions understood what is called the path of ascension, meaning what has to happen for us to reach that godly state, that sainhood, that Christ's consciousness. and they understood that the underworld, imagine for a minute, we're a tree, and the underworld is where our roots are. Okay? And that physical reality is where our body is, and then we are ascension or our consciousness is like the leaves of the tree up into the other realm. There is a fractal nature even within us of this concept. Now, if a human being does not do any shadow work, anything related to their transformation, any grounding work at all, no meditation, no grounding with earth, no deeper understanding, it will not matter how much knowledge they obtain.

It will not matter. They will not grow. They will remain like a stagnant sapling that just like gnarly looking and can't get any light. meaning that if you do not incorporate understandings of what the underworld is, you will not be able to ascend. So what the church essentially did is blocked off the path of ascension. Whoa. So they created this idea that the underworld is evil.

Now, this relief we've looked at a bunch of times in the last show. This is from Kef Kalesi. I'm showing that huge relief that has these gods on it passing pine cones, okay, with the three doors, remember above it, and then all these teas and the tree of life in the center. This depiction, I've determined, is actually not the celestial realms, but it is the underworld. So, remember when Gilgamesh went to go find the secrets of immortality, and he found Zayasudra in his abode in the underworld, remember? Yes. So he goes to talk to Zayasudra to get the knowledge of humanity back. He doesn't go off.

Sorry to catch up. Do you think this literally happened or do you think this is symbolism again? No, this is literal. Okay. This is a literal event and this is an ongoing depiction, not a one-time depiction, meaning that what's being depicted here is not showing a single event, but a reoccurring concept. that exists within all of reality that we have completely been disconnected from. Whoa.

And let me explain what I mean by that. Imagine reality is like a sandwich, okay? And the bread above and the bread below, right, is what we consider like the three realms of reality. Yes. That's the shield above, right, heaven. Yeah. The world below us. And then physical reality is sandwiched right in the middle.

That's how I want you to think about reality. that's how it's more structured. And that's how the ancients believed it. It wasn't necessarily like we think of underworld is to our left and the celestial is to our right. It was above and below, but they depict this in a way

to show the structure of it because you can't stack the same way. It doesn't really work that way. So what I mean by that, though, is that in the underworld, there is a balance that the ancients understood exists below and above. And it's a mirror

of above and below. Now these gods right here I'm showing on the screen. The Eurartians tried to convert these into war gods. This one right here in particular, his name's Haldi. They tried to create him not only into a war god, but a solar god. And when I got down deep into this understanding and study, I realized that archaeologists had made a huge mistake. They had trusted too much what the Eurteans had labeled these gods

without realizing that they'd actually change the gods into an inversion of what they used to be. Why? Because the Uyartians were war empire. And during that time period, all gods were considered war gods. That's why all gods during this time period, from Assyria down to Babylon are all war gods, typically in what they're working with. That's what they considered Haldi. But Haldi wasn't a war god at all.

That's what the Urarthians converted him into. What was he originally? He is Enki. That's Enki. Enki's the creator of humanity. He's the knowledge bringer of all of time. And where is Enki? Enki's in the underworld.

Whoa. We know that because the original first city on earth called Eridu was his city. And all the tablets talk about it. And it talks about how his city was called the temple to the ab zoo. And the ab zoo is another name for the underworld. in which still to this day, Eridu, could have some kind of very strange ancient technology, ancient things going on underneath the zygirot that are never excavated, because the zygirot is still never been fully excavated or even partially excavated,

remains today in the Iraq desert, the first city ever created, being looted consistently. And there are images all online about that happening, and it's so sad. You imagine, Sam, people with guns and stuff coming out to the most ancient site on earth where our story began, finding tablets sticking out of the ground and artifacts and pottery, and then bringing them back to sell them on the black market, in a place that archaeologists have abandoned and never fully excavated. Why? Because it's Enkies patron city. And Enkie turned into a inverted demon to religion. So in the underworld, Anki rules as a positive God. So there always has to be the ancients understood that realms of reality must be maintained. They don't just exist there and sit there.

They have guardians and they have what are called like cycle masters that maintain them. And that's what I think the entire Ananaki Anuna thing is. People listening to this, they're trying to wrap their heads around what they are. they have everything from the image of an alien group of aliens coming from some world to multidimensional beings that have conquered our reality and are trying to control us. I don't think any of that's true at all. I think what they really are are fractals of God or source that maintains the universe. Wow.

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down there? Because they are balancing all of life. The balance of life comes from the underworld. That's why trees grow out of the ground. It's a fractal relationship of everything. What do you mean by the fractal? So what I mean by fractal, and we're going to get into fractals, a fractal is a small version of something that just repeats itself bigger and bigger on a more grand scale. The ancients understood that everything in the universe, including within us, was a fractal of the micro or small to the macro or big. Everything was. not only within us as the three concepts of mind, body, and spirit, or Father, Son, Holy Ghost, which is an exact replica of the three doors.

Now, like, for instance, let's put those into this context for religion for people who studied it. Look at these three doors. Mind, body, and soul, spirit, where would you put those? Body is physical realm. Mind would be celestial, like the mind of God. Yeah. Okay. Physical reality would be body, physical body, like in physical reality, makes sense. And then spirit is underworld, meaning that our spirit and our soul ascension process is most likely has a relationship with the underworld, including all of our growth. And I'm going to go even a step further. We have been taught that most knowledge came from above. I actually believe. it may not, that may not be true

and that most higher knowledge may have come from below. Now, if you are a church that wants to block all ascension and all knowledge from people having so that you're then under the control of them, you would block

off that source of knowledge and that source of freedom and sovereignty and then turn it into an evil place. Damn. That's exactly what they did. And so, if you take this relief and you mirror the doors, look, it's the same thing. See, guys? There is no difference in the relationship. Remember, everything is repeated over and over and over again. It's relationship,

meaning these three doors put them right here. Nergal, a negative, dark God. See? Left door. That's his role. Enki, a positive, right? A positive god of knowledge and preservation. Right side. Middle door, two things, not only physical reality, but the tree of life. You see that? Yes. Because here's what gets beautiful is the tree of life is actually a metaphor for consciousness. Because I mentioned that human consciousness in our path is like a tree.

It's like a tree. Once we root and ground, then we grow up and we ascend and grow leaves. It's like a tree. And that's why they're feeding the tree of life, because it's not just about the balance in reality, in Earth, but it's about the balance of all, everything. They're passing knowledge to reach this highest state of ascension and knowledge. Because right above his head, I have another image that zooms out to show this, you'll see all these incredible symbolic aspects of our ascension and our growth. So this depiction right here is the underworld. Think about it.

Is there any of our modern day understanding of heaven and hell that applies to this? Well, you mean for the three doors and this concept? Meaning that like when we think of the underworld as hell and devil and all that stuff, like when you say he's the lord of war and death and all that stuff, I mean, is there a negative connotation to that? meaning that there is a dark side to that, or is it just a complete misunderstanding based on what modern religion has taught us? No, it's a deception. And let me tell you why. The celestial higher realm above that is not depicted here. The celestial higher realm has to mirror the underworld.

So both realms, the celestial and the underworld, both metaphysical realms have to have cycle masters that balance negative and positive above and negative positive below. So the same demon figure that is Nergal in the underworld is repeated in the celestial, and his name is Enlil, or Zeus. And he is the god of the Anuna that created the destruction during the Zayasudra flood to wipe out all of mankind. It's a celestial god. that is that did all those horrible things he is the eagle the war eagle above so we our understanding of heaven to hell is even wrong in terms of like location completely so imagine hell is a metaphysical celestial realm in which there is a positive and a negative ruling set of cycle masters and then

and then underworld there is a positive and a negative role um roles of cycle masters down there too. So they're playing positive negative above, positive negative below, because all of life has to be balanced between life preserving and life dying, because that's the cycle of everything in the universe. You cannot have life without death. That's why the Ying Yang, darkness and light always dance with each other, and light cannot exist without darkness. So interesting. Very crazy. So let's take that a step further. And let's go down and I'll show you that and how beautiful they wanted to depict it. This is Vaughn.

This is Sam's Ham's, Sam's hood. Yeah. So in Vaughn, there are three amazing sites. We've talked about them a little bit. We're going to get back to them. Ionis, Kev-Kalesi, where that big ball relief came from right here that we're looking at. and then the underwater ruins that I'm showing. Now, each one of these sites represents a temple to each realm of reality.

So stay with me here for a minute. It's beautiful. This is because it's like a model they left for us. And once you crack pieces, everything else falls into place if you understand these ancient concepts in which I've studied, you know, from esoteric mysticism all the way through ancient civilizations. they left this knowledge. We just had to understand it. And so look at this for a minute. The underwater ruins, a perfect circle.

And we're going to get into each symbol as we go into this. Because in their understanding, the underworld was a circle because it was for life. So right here, take a look, Sam, above each of their heads from their knowledge, even the Nurgal in the underworld as a demon. they're still have a circle on their head for life because they're playing the roles of balancing life, okay, in the underworld. So the circle was their way of depicting that. Now, in the underwater ruins, the ruins themselves are a perfect circle, which this is what's beautiful is they created temples based on that relationship understanding. So give you an example on at Kefkalesi, which is on a mountain above the underwater ruins, they have a flower.

there, see, repeating that are tetrahedrons. Now, tetrahedrons are based on the structure of physical reality. So they build a temple of blocks that are square, of a temple that has tetrahedian flowers in it to represent physical reality. So beautiful. And then Ionis, a temple to the celestial higher realms has a sunflower. So when I started to look at it, at this, I was like, oh, this is how beautiful is that? And the underwater ruins are not just a circle in their construction, but the symbol itself, their flower are seeds. If you look right here, they're, I'm showing it there are seeds, six-spoked, seed of the

flower of life. And again, it follows that concept of three, six, and nine repeating each one of these flowers is six spokes. So we're following a pattern here. They're creating temples based on each realm of reality. So that's the first part I want to get out here. Now, as we go further into this, you start, it starts to make sense is that take the T for a minute and imagine the reason why the T stem is so tall is because the middle door had to be the biggest, right? And so you then, the T represents the balance of all three of those realms of reality.

So one is the structure of it. And then the other one is the understanding that the point of all of it is then finding balance and maintaining balance in all three of those realms of reality. Right. So bringing heaven to earth, right? All that concept, the idea of mirroring creating a synergy between heaven and earth. But in this case, also the underworld. So that's what, when you look at the idea of the left being the underworld duat and the right being celestial upper realms, you then start to really make sense with the T.

Because now they're talking about creating structures and temples and locations in which they're not only honoring the structure of the universe through fractal form, but they're also creating the understanding that the purpose behind that is to maintain balance. And what I mean is they understood that the purpose of the universe is to reach balance and us, that there is no a higher purpose and through balance you must have deep knowledge

and wisdom in order to do that so now you can put all this together Sam so now you can bring all this home and look now you can start to see he's standing on two guardian lions

guardians of the lower realm above him are eagle guardians guarding the celestial see that Oh, yeah, yeah. Above and below. Now, he's passing knowledge.

They both are. They're seeding the tree of life in the center with three T's for balance of all three realms of reality. Now notice there are three levels. See that? One, two, three. These three levels represent the three realms of reality. And we know this is the underworld because look, physical reality is right here. So they're passing knowledge of the underworld, from the underworld,

through the middle door only, Sam. See, they're not passing celestial knowledge or underworld knowledge. They're passing it from the underworld, but to physical reality. That's why they're pointing directly to the middle door only. And then look above it. You see this flowering that occurs and see the, These spokes above guys, they're like spokes like the sun. There are exactly seven.

Why? Because there are seven colors in the visible ice spectrum, light. And there are seven primary chakras inside of us, meaning that we essentially, the path of ascension, from all this knowledge, go from the underworld and grow like a tree to blossoming and basically finding the path of ascension back to source, back to where we began. It's like a It's your they're showing you the path of ascension here basically It's only like the most important artifact like known to man in my opinion So you can see all three of the trees There are three trees. There are three trees represent three each realm see

But the middle one is physical reality Everything is a symmetry everything is a mirror Everything is all about balance Now I understood this from a basis of this These look like concepts from ancient misoose mysticism and esoteric traditions. These look like the basis of secret societies. I was aware of that, but I couldn't prove it until I came across the next levels of this.

So we're going to go deep here, Sam. We're going to go down even deeper. Amen. This is ionis in the background. Now, ionis is fascinating because you keep coming back over and over again to this place. Now, at I honest, there is an altar we talked about that sits right in the center of the temple. It's made out of golden calicite alabaster that, for our understanding, or my understanding, at least, of studying it, may have come from a thousand miles away. Because the type of golden caliside alabaster is basically, is not found anywhere in any quarries historically in the region.

So this altar that I'm going to show right here, the altar itself has two symbols repeating over and over again on it, only two. So it's not the step pyramid and the T on the altar. There's something else. So the first thing you would wonder is, why isn't it the step pyramid, the T? Well, because they're trying to show something else. And I'm going to explain what that is. Now, on this, all this, this is the altar. It's hard to see.

What it shows are winged guardians all over it. Oh, I see it. This drawing on the left is the same thing. It's the altar, but drawn out. Yes, I see what you're showing. I see what you're saying. Now, there are three guardians. I'm sure that it's not surprising for each realm of reality.

Okay. Each guardian is responsible for those realms of reality. So right here, I'm going to show you this is God Haldi. So he is right here. God Haldi. And he is shown on this background as a guardian as a winged guardian for physical reality. So this human-like figure with wings is in charge of guarding physical reality. and he's Enki-Haldi,

so we know that. And then you have a upper and lower guardian. So one guardian for the celestial realms, which in this case, see this Sam right here? Oh, wow. Look, what's the head on that look like? Eagle.

What does that, what's that right there? Eagle. There you go. So then you can see, so this is a realm guardian for the celestial realms. And then the Haldi is a realm guardian for physical, one guardian left right here. It is a mixture of a lion and a dragon, we call a Griffin.

And that is your guardian for the underworld. Each of these guardians are guarding only two things. If you look right here, you can actually, if you look here, Sam, you can see it well right there and right here. What I'm showing are candelabras. So they show you have levels of candles. Yeah. They're called candelabas. As in the middle.

So basically, if you're at home listening, there's three pictures on the screen. One is of a gold kind of cylinder, which has some pretty amazing stuff. How would I say? It was a carving. I'll explain the, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then on the far left, there is an amazing drawing of three different types.

of winged animals that are like a hybrid of different animals and just like mad describe them they fit the different guardians of the different realms and then on the stone we see engraved into the stone parts of what we see in the drawing because it's the altar is broken so they had to it's broken in pieces that's why I'm not showing the whole thing because it's it's in it's in pieces right now here is where we need to be careful these are not literal there is not an eagle looking guardian flying around guarding celestial. It's a symbol. That doesn't mean that that energy of that guardian isn't real.

That doesn't mean that there aren't real guardians there guarding it. This is how they depict that guardian. So it's how they show the guardian. So we understand it. This gold rod, the first thing is, I believe that these slid into the bottom of the altar at ionis. Number one, it was founded on us. Number two, the holes in the altar fit the size of this.

And so on this gold rod, Sam, look, it's the circle and the flame repeating over and over again. Yep, there it is. Now on this and from the altar, it's the flame and the circle repeating over and over again. That's all it is. It's the flame in the circle. That's what all of these guardians are of all locations on Earth. What I would consider Ionus to be is the origin point of all this knowledge. And I do consider it to be one of the most sacred, if not the most sacred, temple and ancient site to me in the world.

Because it's where all this knowledge was first brought down or handed or brought up, I could say. What I mean by that is this altar is very important because of all the most sacred places, the altar itself is even the most sacred thing within that space. So now we need to pay attention to what's on the altar. So if we recognize how important that is then, we now need to explore the circle and the flame. Hey guys, I'm telling you this. They're printing our money into oblivion. It's not worth anything.

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and all the symbols are solar symbols because Ionus was a temple to the celestial realms and we know that because there is a flame right here the same flame symbol in the altar right there and there's a spoke like on a sun but there are no circles not the sun circle though but there are no circles independently why so if the altar has a symmetry component

mean you have to match it up the altar contains two symbols, but this temple is only one. Because there was originally two Susi temples. This one that's remaining in the background, at Ionis, is the only one that survived. I'm convinced without a doubt and have proofed based on the pillar system that surrounds nothing right now at that site, is that there was once another Susie temple. And if you could imagine inside, because that's how. the blueprint and this model works.

Everything has to fit into into this idea of what they laid down based on a shared knowledge system. Now, that means that if the other Sousi Temple still existed, that instead of all these flames everywhere,

it would have been circles because it would have been a temple to the underworld. I gotcha. And I don't even just mean in honor of the underworld, but these may have actually been technological ways to go between realms. Oh my God. And it makes more sense when you think about it that the Eurartians converted Haldi into a solar storm god and then dismantle the underworld. Various different reasons they may have

done that. But I have talked about in shows before how I would love someday if we would get past our misunderstandings of it and be able to use this knowledge and how it's built and how this works to rebuild it again. That temple, that gateway to that once allowed above and below to exist. Now, I don't want to go too far on that tangent for a minute because I want to get back to this. So they understood that the underworld, the circle and the flame are the most important thing that exists, but why? Well, this is where was one of the most important things I ever connected in my life. This is really significant, Sam. And everybody listening in the audience, this connects a knowledge system that is extremely significant for humanity in my opinion,

like pivotal, because it's one thing to prove a lost civilization chapter existed in which they have knowledge and understanding and technologies in certain ways. But it's another thing to find the origins of what could be the most important knowledge of who we are and what our purposes and what everything, the answers to the most important questions basically that have ever been asked in history. Now, what I mean by that is this. This, there's a passage here that I'm going to read for everybody online. The passage in the center comes from hermeticism, specifically hermetica.

with a conversation with Poimander and Hermes. Now, Poimander is a dragon. It's a celestial dragon of the universe. There's your dragon concept to weave back in to Kuukukon and Veracosha and the whole dragon gods, Pantheon and the Americas, okay? So in these ancient esoteric mysterious text that go way back to hermetic knowledge, which is the knowledge of hermes from ancient Greece, you have this section of it that I became obsessed with.

And so I've studied hermeticism for at least five years. And it's been very important to me because I realized that it seemed to incorporate every knowledge system around the world, including ancient Hinduism and Buddhist teaching. with ancient Mayan teachings and indigenous teachings and Gnostic teachings and pre-Hebrew teachings. All of it seemed to come back in Egypt teachings too to this one place. So I became kind of obsessed with it. And I would read it all the time.

And this passage kept coming up over and over again. And I became enamored by it. And I used to talk about it. So I'm going to read it. We're going to get into why it's so significant in my opinion. if you were to imagine someone had a Bible and they said, okay, this is the most important passage in the Bible that sums everything up. That's what this would be for hermeticism. Is a core concept of knowledge that is at the highest level of everything.

The highest level. Like the highest level of importance. So let me read it. It says, Then Hermes asked how the righteous and wise pass to God, to which point Mander replied, that which the word of God said, because the father of all things, right, Father, Son, Holy Ghost, because the Father of all things consists of life and light, whereof man is made.

If therefore a man shall learn and understand the nature of life and light, then he shall pass into eternity of life and light. What he's saying is Hermes wants to understand the nature of mankind, humanity. What are we?

What are we part of? What is our purpose? What is our existence here mean? And then he also says, I also want to know the nature of God, in which boy, man or the god, the dragon, celestial dragon, says the nature of God and the nature of man is the same. That right there is profound, first of all. But the second thing, considering how humanity views itself,

is nothing and insignificant and what we've done to our world and our in each other. But more importantly, the nature of both are two things, life and light. Now, this is another candelabra,

an ivory candelabra that came from another site in Turkey that's related with a Susi temple called Alton Tepe. And here's that gold rod. And then we had the altar. Everything repeats two symbols. Whoa. Those are two different rods.

Well, no, there's only one rod. I'm showing them twice. So they're repeating two concepts over and over and over again. The circle and the flame. Well, think about it for a minute. What is the flame? Go back to religion, the Trinity. Father, son, Holy Ghost, and Holy Flame. What is the Holy Flame?

Light. But celestial light, which is why. look guys wait here no sorry apologies here seven spokes

of the seven spokes at the top light see circle at the bottom life they're passing all the knowledge of everything to us life and light

but in this case instead of showing seven spokes to show the holy flame you show an actual flame. You show an actual flame, which is the holy flame of light, of the celestial realms. Why? Because the celestial realms are non-physical. So light is a physical thing, right? The seven colors of the visible light spectrum, we observe because it's in a physical reality. It's through the spectrum of physical reality that we can observe those phenomena. But light

doesn't exist in the celestial realm, which is why it's not just traditional light, like spokes on the light like a rainbow. It's a flame because it's a metaphysical flame that basically represents the light of God or source, which is what we have inside of us. Now, why is this so important? Because it means that the most important ancient knowledge system in the world that was completely banished and destroyed by the church,

we can prove it goes back to the oldest, oldest systems of understanding of us. The very beginning origins of knowledge itself. These concepts were woven into it. So we can prove hermeticism through not only these two symbols, but every single concept of this is hermedicism. As above so below, as within so without, above balancing the below, the negative, the positive,

and we'll get into hermeticism in a minute, and you'll see all of that. It means that we're finding a lost or knowledge system of everything. So let's get into what all this means. What is hermeticism? Hermeticism is based on the teachings of Hermes. Hermes is the Greek teacher equivalent of Thoth in ancient Egypt.

Basically equivalent of Enki. Same thing. Equivalent of Viracosha, Ku Klukukon. Okay. All of those are the, all of those are the same thing repeated all over the world, everywhere. their knowledge bringers. Their purpose is to emerge during times of destruction to make sure that the mees of divine knowledge

are brought back to humanity so that they are not lost forever because terrible things happen when they're lost forever. And you'll see that as we go along. But now you can look at this and imagine snakes of two snakes of energy, dark and light, within us, like our spine,

weaving up through, through ascension and Kunilini, to have wings at the top. They're showing you the same thing, the same path, and they're all passing that knowledge, which is what hermeticism is. It's based on the oldest knowledge systems on Earth, and it's the core of all philosophies and everything that came after. So, let's, we'll get into a little bit about what they are. Hermes and Thoth are knowledge bringers of all of ancient history. They're the ones who brought these concepts and incorporated into every ancient culture that revered them for that, for that knowledge.

And they then brought it out, brought that knowledge and seeded it like the pine cone and seeded it into every civilization to then allow that civilization to flourish, which ultimately often those civilizations would become inverted and destroy the knowledge that once was and become like war empires of themselves. That's why the Aztec and Maya did all kinds of horrible blood sacrifice and did all these evil things because there was a corruption of this knowledge, right? The eagle and the serpent, the battle of above and below and these hidden wars and struggles between information and knowledge dark and light, they battle all throughout history and basically this knowledge was stamped out and we're going to go into the history of it. But you think it's passed down in secret societies? Yes. And it was then blocked off from most of the world. So I want to read, I'm going to, let me move this out of the way so I can read this. I want to read for everybody listening online what hermeticism is so they understand it.

So hermeticism is a philosophical tradition concerned with the underlying order of reality itself. It teaches that the universe operates according to consistent principles that link minds, nature in the cosmos, and that these principles can be understood through symbolism, geometry, and observation rather than belief or doctrine. It's a system of universal principles that govern all of reality. So we have to understand the ancient understanding of this, and we need to remodel our entire understanding of reality because of this, in my opinion, and we will in the future, is that we actually live in a very antiquated understanding of the universe. We try to look at it through telescopes to see things that are separate like dark energy and dark matter and

this and this without realizing that the ancients had already mastered everything. We're actually just trying to catch up, which is part of the problem is that the ego of humanity now doesn't want to admit even the concept or idea that we were a lot smarter and had a lot more wisdom back in antiquity than we do actually now. And there were actually quite a shadow of our former self from what we once were. because they understood this, that reality is ordered, intelligent and interconnected.

It's not separate. We're not living on an anthill, where we're battling and fighting over an infinite universe that we don't matter. That's not how they saw it. They saw that what's happening here is happening out there, and what's happening within us is happening outside.

There is no separation, according to their understanding of the universe and mankind. And they talked about how they wanted to emphasize that the harmony between consciousness, nature, and the cosmos is essential. And that they encoded that knowledge into temple layouts, sacred text, and in geometry. So does that make sense, Sam?

Yes. So here are the principles for everybody to understand. This is how esoteric ancient traditions, if people are sitting here listening to this and they go, what did secret societies and mystery schools know? This is what it is essentially. This is all that knowledge but brought back to what I believe is the origin of this lost civilization as the purpose behind what mattered the most to them. So think about what matters the most to us today, Sam.

Sex appeal, materialism. Yes. Money and flexing huge yachts and boats. and pop stars and rock stars, none of that mattered to them. They didn't care about it. All those things were irrelevant. To them, the only thing that mattered was higher knowledge and balance and understanding. They considered the body to be a temple as within so without,

and that the temple can be balanced and that society around can also mirror that balance, and you can create like a utopia. But not only that, you can create like a synergy with the heavens. And what we're going to get into that as we go here. Now, these are what are called the seven hermetic principles. And I'll go through them. Seven, like the seven laws, like the seven colors of visible life spectrum. These are the laws that govern everything in the universe, according to these ancient traditions.

Welcome to the real reality. So they viewed the universe as a giant tree. There's that tree of life metaphor. That the underworld was the roots. that the stem of the tree, the middle part, was physical reality. And the leaves were the celestial. And it was actually a model, a fractal model of how everything worked, including within us. Remember three parts.

Now, here are the seven rules to remember. The first. And again, some people that are listening to this that have gone through certain agendas and certain, we'll call it, misinformation that has attacked this in the last five to ten years. And I don't want to go too far down that road, but I'll just mention,

these are the constants of the universe. So we can get past some of our, what you call woke agenda talk when we can actually get through the real principles of the universe. First thing, the principle of mentalism. The all is mind. The universe is purely mental.

What does that mean? It means that when you tap into your highest self, you turn this body into a temple, you turn into like an antenna, because you obtain a certain frequency that just dials into the source field of the universe. That's all it is. The entire universe, according to them,

is a giant source field of consciousness, which is why, Sam, when people take DMT, and I haven't, But when people take high levels of D&T ayahuasca, they see sacred geometry everywhere. Because they're looking at the source code of the universe, meaning that the universe is just a giant source field of God, of mentalism. And that we're just tapping into that knowledge. And that's really what it is. The second principle.

The principle of correspondence, this is the one most people have heard of. Very important. As above, so below. as within, so without. Also as a, you know, that concept above, below, within, without. That's called the principle of correspondence, super important. Third, the principle of vibration. Everything or nothing rests, it says.

Nothing rests. Everything moves. Everything vibrates. There's no such thing as something being static. You're sitting at your, on your chair, on your desk, everything just has a certain frequency vibration. Yes. the fourth thing, the principle of polarity. Remember, yin yong, dark and light.

Everything is dual, everything has poles, everything has its pair of opposites, right? Enki in the underworld with their gall, and little above with Marduk. Positive, negative, positive negative. Dark light, everything. That's the way everything is structured. Okay, next number five, the principle of rhythm. The pendulum swing manifests in everything. The measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left and rhythm compensates.

Everything is based on a rhythm in cycles. Okay. Number six, the principle of cause and effect. These are the rules of the universe. Everything has cause and effect. Okay, so every cause has its effect. Every effect has its cause. So if Sam does something,

energetically, he's going to get an equal and opposite reaction back. The universe is a giant mirror. What you put out, you get back. Yes. You want to make money. You put out abundance. Yes. You want to, you want to project a certain version of yourself.

You have to be that. You have to vibrate that, not pretend you are. The universe does, the universe looks right through, bullshit. Yeah. Can't trick it. You haven't gone through your shadow work. You still got all these traumas you're dealing with.

You want to ascend? Nice try. Go work on your roots and your shadow work first before you can grow. Now, number seven, the last one. The principle of gender. This one has been really, really affected lately. Yeah. And it's really, really sad to see.

Yes. Divine masculine, divine feminine are constants in the universe. Period. guys, period. Okay? So number seven, the law is the principles of gender. Gender is in everything. Everything has its masculine and feminine principles. Gender manifests on all planes, meaning that ancient archetypal understandings of divine masculine

and divine feminine are there for a reason. It does not mean we've always followed them in a balanced way. I understand that. But we need to return that balance. There's a reason why feminine energy has to have a certain kind of understanding and then masculine energy does. There's a reason because it's ancient. So we're just going to keep expanding on this, guys. There's the triptych within us, the three.

We are not separate from the universe. It's the same thing. You can think of them as the three doors in us, the three flowers. Within us is the same structure as the universe, right? So religion calls it Father's Son and Holy Spirit. What we want to call it in modern terms, if you were talking about more like energy, we would call it the mind, the body, and the spirit. And right at the center of those is awareness in Christ's consciousness. Right?

The center. So we're just going to finish this up here to conclude here, just this part anyway, is all of this, what is it based on? It's based on natural law. That's what hermeticism and this knowledge is. it's natural law of the universe, meaning that these are laws and constants. They're not belief systems. They're not something someone made up. It's literally the laws of the universe.

And it's based on, I'll read this for everybody listening online, natural law refers to the inherent principles that govern nature and reality, independent of human authority or belief. These laws are not created but discovered and revealed through pattern, proportion, cause, and effect, and they're observable throughout the natural world. And wait till you get to see how all of these are displayed in the universe and within us. So all of these concepts that we just went through are all embedded in everything in the universe. Okay. So let me show you an example.

We're told that we're not a part of the all and we're just sort of insignificant, nothing. Flip that whole thing around. What if we're actually on the stage of the entire universe itself? That's what our existence is. And everything else is supporting that. We're like the spotlight of the universe is on this. This path of us losing our way, becoming so disconnected as far as possible from spirit, and then finding our way back.

Giant circle and cycle. Because look at how it works. Along inside us looks just like a tree. tree. Our veins look just like river systems. A nebula looks just like a human eye. The death of a star mirrors a birth of a cell. The brain cells look like the universe if you zoom out. Because that pattern within us, and this is what we've been tricked into believing, is that we are the microcosmic relationship. we are the microcosmic representation of the macrocosm of the entire universe

within us. And so fractal geometry, this is what all of it is and we'll get into what that means. Is that fractal geometry, which is what they were embedding and creating everywhere, is it describes that there are patterns in nature

that repeat at different scales so that the structure of the whole is reflected on all of its parts. So that rather than things, thinking that it's linear or isolated forms, fractals reveal that a universe is built on self-similarity, recursion, and nested order. Okay? And that everything is based on that relationship.

So we see that pattern everywhere. That's why a blood cell looks like a river system. Because it's all connected. And the ancients understood all of this. And they encoded that knowledge system into all of these structures because before they were destroyed, they understood that if you didn't have this knowledge, what would humanity become? And we'll get there in a minute here.

Now, here's another example of fractal geometry. On the left side I'm showing in Cambodia, a single stone monolith that's designed to be a three-level step, like a pyramid with a door at the bottom. You see this? There's a door right here. Yeah, I see that. Some of a T.

Some of a, yeah. And right behind it is called Bapuan. huge temple that is the exact same design as this. When I found this, I was like, what is going on? They're making fractal miniature representations of the structure of the universe into a fractal form of a small monolith and then creating giant temples to be larger and larger versions of that same concept. That's why they all have the shapes they do.

That's why they all have these geometry and these levels. They're creating this, fractal relationship of smaller to bigger and bigger and then designing the temples into that. They were so far beyond us. It's like, it's actually pretty mind-blowing. Here's another example. That's why a hurricane looks like a galaxy. It looks like a shell.

And a pine cone mirrors the same sacred geometry that goes across all scales. Like our human footprint. Okay. So are you ready, Sam, to get into what happened to this? Yes, I cannot wait. But what happened to all this knowledge? Ready, yeah, of course. I'm so excited.

So what happened to all this knowledge? If we had the knowledge of everything, what happened? Well, remember Gilgamesh brought it back and lost it. It was embedded in a certain secret societies in which they figured it out, but they ended up using it for bad reasons. Yes. If you know how everything works and you know how we work, well, you can do the opposite, can you? Yes.

That's exactly what they did. So let's talk about the sad story of hermeticism and all of this knowledge and what happened to it. So here we have your friend Da Vinci on the right. This is a beautiful story and a sad story for those who don't know it. In the mid-14-100s, so 15th century, specifically 15-53, Constantinople is a city that is in Western Turkey. It's today Istanbul. It was the center of the ancient world. And hermeticism was still being practiced widely around it.

But at the same time, Christianity was rising out from that area. And you no longer could really freely practice hermeticism. Christianity, even though it had roots in early hermeticism, wanted to break away from that entirely. They saw hermeticism as a huge threat to Christianity. And so the Christian church rises. and anyone who's practicing hermeticism and these old knowledge, they all migrate to one place in the world, which is remarkable to think about.

Hundreds, if not thousands of them all go to one single place. They go to Florence, Italy. So 1453, they go to Florence, Italy, and they bring with them all of the knowledge of hermeticism. So there, who started? Start studying her medicism. Da Vinci. Da Vinci joins secret societies and he learns all of this knowledge.

So it then leads to the greatest renaissance in all of history, when all the poetry, all of the incredible cathedrals are built that understand sound and acoustics that are being falsely blamed on a Saob called Tartaria. That's not real. Whoa. Shots fire. Shot fired. Chats fired. Had to throw that one out there. This is from these time periods of when they understood sacred geometry, acoustics, and harmonics,

and we're building all of these incredible cathedrals and places. It led to a blossoming in humanity of art, poetry, knowledge, philosophy that was on a scale that had potentially never been seen. That's why the Renaissance has talked about as when all those things were painted and created. like the last supper. You ready? The entire table is a giant tea first. Look what's behind Jesus, Johnny. Behind Jesus.

Three doors with the middle door being the largest. Whoa, dude. Johnny's scared right now. Very cool. Well, because he knows very well that Christianity is becoming increasingly more powerful. And he is very worried about. that knowledge. And like Plato, he very cleverly adopts it into these paintings.

Now, what is the Vitruvian man also look like if you take its arms and put it across and then put a line now? It looks like a T, doesn't it? See that? Man is the microcosm, macrocosm, macrocosm relationship of it all. And that's why this depiction is painted because Jesus, a great thing. sage, just like many other sages who have come, no, he's not the only

sage, Buddha, there's been many others, Krishna, they're just great sages of their age. He's passing this knowledge. That's what it is, the original teachings of Jesus before the church converted a lot of them

and rewrote them is just this same knowledge. That's all it is. Same thing. So he's passing that knowledge, and that's why it's being depicted there. So what happens? Well, the church doesn't like this too much at all. It's watching what's happening in Florence, Italy, and it's not happy.

This is a movement that needs to be stamped out. So they hire a man named Isaac Kasuban, probably one of the most evil men in history that no one's ever heard of. Isaac Kasubon, born in 1559, he sees this movement's going on. He's an expert in antiquities. So the church hires him to discredit the hermetica. hermetic teachings, by him going to study the hermetica itself, the version that everybody's reading, and he's very clever. He takes the ink and he studies the pages, and he determines that the version they're reading, instead of being older than the teachings of Moses,

which it had superseded teachings of Moses, that's why the Christian church could not destroy it. They needed it to be younger than the teachings of Moses so that the teaching is of Moses so that the teaching of Moses could supersede it, then they could destroy it. So they hire Isaac Kassabon, they say, Isaac, we need you to tell us how old this really is. So instead of dating the knowledge of hermedicism, he dates the current manuscript to the scribes of Alexandria and like, you know, like 1,200 years ago. And the teachings of Moses are like 3,200 years ago. So he's trying to say that the scribes of Alexandria,

created hermeticism and that that's where it was born. Okay, out of that, completely hiding and inverting that the knowledge had been rewritten by civilizations like the Greeks and the Egyptians over and over again for thousands and thousands of years and that the version they're reading was simply the most latest translated and latest version. So what happens? The same year that Isaac Kasubon discredits the Hermit's, hermetica and the church makes it illegal, he dies of natural causes. That's an omen right there.

You mess with something sacred. He dies, not for murder. He literally died the same year that he discredits the hermetica. I don't think that's a coincidence. And again, look, so what happens? Hermeticism becomes illegal. Any woman that's practicing hermeticism is called a witch. Anyone who's practicing hermedicism, a druid or a pagan, remember St. Patrick's Day?

Yeah. They're ridding St. Patrick's Day. They're ridding hermeticism. It's the same thing. Same thing. They go on a crusade around the world. Thousands potentially lose their lives are burned at the stake. Anybody who's practicing her medicism is basically killed, ostracized.

Again, it's especially bad on women because any women, who were practicing herbal things, astrology, hermeticism, which is what all that is, were considered witches and that were burned at the stake. You then saw the emergence of evil take over the world and destroys the one thing that could save us. Think about that for a minute. So what happens? Look, this is what happens to our world. Without hermeneicism, without this ancient knowledge, we become disconnected to everything. We have no understanding of what our role. is with Earth, the universe, what our responsibilities here are with the planet, with religion turns into armies, battling over ideologies and ideas.

Humidity becomes enchained, enslaved, in their own ideas. And we go down the darkest period in human history, all because we lost that knowledge. So just to summarize this, because we won't have time for dating today. But just to getting to the end of this, we have to remember who we were. so that we can understand who we are now. And all of these ancient civilizations, all of this knowledge, this is how I like to equate it, Sam.

Yeah. Our reality in our existence here is like a game. It's like a simulation. There are rules on how to ascend. Just like a game. You level up, you ascend. That game has been hijacked. And the rules are now completely out of whack

where the original game has been lost. Now, what I equate all of this knowledge to, the code around the world, how is embedded, what that knowledge system is, is it's like the walkthrough guide for that game. And you remember walkthrough guides when you were a kid. When you originally, when games first came out and they were really hard, people would go to the store and buy a book that was a walkthrough guide. It told them how to get through each level. Remember? Yep, yep. this our current world you know those who are deceptive i believe that they thought that that

walk through guide was lost and that's why it's so incredible that this ancient civilization left it behind for us so that we can not only find our way back but that we can we can regain balance for this entire world once again because that's what this is and the slide i have on here just basically talks about how this knowledge system is basically the highest level of knowledge that they understood over longer time than we've existed here, in which they mastered their understanding of the universe and created the most incredible structures that I believe were like technologies to the stars, technologies to other realms, that we were like gods, and that we've lost our way and forgotten, and we're diminished to the point where we no longer remember basically anything.

Wow. So let me ask you something. Yeah. There are parts of organized religions such as angels and demons, fallen angels, all that stuff. What are your thoughts on any of that? The Anuna that I just showed are just playing those roles. That's all. That's what they do.

That's what they are. Angels and demons are just whether or not you're talking about a positive or a negative God because they're playing duality. Duality is dark and light. So they're each playing those roles and responsibilities. but what they're not telling us is that there's an angel in the underworld. There's angels in the underworld and angels in the celestial, and there's demons in the underworld and demons in the celestial.

They're in both. So, Johnny, as the guy who went to church his whole life, what had he thought? I slept through a lot of church. So does that make sense, though? Listen, what you're saying to me is I have been thinking a lot about, And, you know, again, when we have these conversations, I like to remind the listeners and the viewers that this is not an attack on your belief system. This is, again, you're going to believe what you want to believe, and we respect that here on the show. We have these conversations.

I find, I've always said this forever. We live in a very mystical universe and its energy, vibration, all that stuff. And when when people look at like, let's say, manifestation or something like that as some kind of like demonic thing, that that doesn't resonate with me. Like I've seen it happen in my own life and people try to say that's a trick and stuff like that. That does not resonate with me. Again, please don't understand. We've had many discussions on many things, very pro-Christian. We've had, you know, we've had Muslims, Jews have been on, everybody's been on.

So we are open-minded to it all. But a lot of this does resonate with me. Well, can I just make a quick comment on that? Is that, look, I'm not trying to destroy all religions. I'm trying to bring back the purity of what they all shared. Yes, I do agree with that. Strongly, every single religion on Earth has a core to it that shares similarities. And the end of the day, those similarities are being a good person, treating other people well, doing good.

Like, there's a lot more than just that, obviously. But the core of a lot of those things just carry over at all of this. And the end of the day, I'm not trying to say that one thing is wrong and one thing is another. That question is irrelevant. I'm pointing towards the origin, what I believe is the oldest knowledge system of everything that exists, in which we can finally peer back the layers of deception that have unfortunately been used to control us and get back to the core of what matters.

Remember, even in Christianity itself, with the teachings of Jesus or Yeshua, he says that the kingdom of heaven is within you. It's never been about following a church. So just be careful with how a lot of good can be embedded in those religions, but then other deceptions are mixed in. And we need to try to be objective about that and understand in the end of the day, it's about following the path that most resonates within.

I love hearing all of it, dude. I love any thoughts, guys. There's always been a tension, right? Especially in the West, between whether you view the deity as all-powerful, or if you view your, you know, you find the divine within yourself. You know, there's always, you know, the people that will say, well, you're trying to be your own God. And I think that's what the tension here boils down to, you know, is kind of that split.

But why do you need a meteor? The whole point is like, why do we actually need a meteor to reach God? That's the whole reason why organized religion became controlling is that they wanted to create a necessity of a mediary so that you can't reach it yourself. Yes. I believe in the teachings of Jesus. I believe, but I do believe that I've always felt this is that what Jesus did was come down and basically teach us to understand how to operate in this realm of energy.

But he also said, no man comes to the father, but by me. Well, that's why I'm... Those are things that were rewritten, guys. There's a core set of teachings here to be very careful that he said. He emphasized strongly that the kingdom of heaven is found within that you have to be your own savior. Those other things that came later, like through the Council of Nicaea, adding all those different things, I think those are forms of control. I find it interesting. Hey, Matt, well, before, what do you think about Tartaria? It's on maps. It's on a lot of

or is it's a name. Do you think it's real, but the name has been changed to hide? No, I think that they took old maps that had that name on there and tried to pretend its entire lost chapter. that exists for one reason only. To create a sciop in which you believe that that was a lost chapter of our history, to muddy the waters and confuse the real lost chapter that existed. Because, look, I understand that architecture and knowledge was greatly lost and that it looks like a huge mismatch because it is. But that's the nature of architecture and knowledge in this system we've lived in,

where our world has pretty much stamped out that understanding. And that, look, we have very, very good records of the 1800s to 1700s. Sorry, but it's not a lost chapter. I totally agree. Thank you. What is lost, though, is that understanding and masonry and understanding of why we built those churches and architecture the way we did. We lost our understanding of acoustics, vibration, sound. We forgot all those things and why they were important. So don't confuse. Be careful.

There are sciops. all kinds of siops that their intention is there to try to throw us off track and make us look ridiculous. And so what we need to do, remember this, guys, do your own research, use your intuition, be objective. Go figure out what's real and what maybe is a deception. Interesting. I love that. Because, I mean, yeah, there's a certain. And just think about what he said, Johnny, too, like do your own research and how they've taken.

that and demonize that, right? Yeah. Oh, what do you do your own research? You're like, yeah. I mean, as Jimmy Dorr literally says, yeah, we called that reading back in the day. But there are, I mean, there's so many people who will tell you that we have no history of what happened in the 1800s or the 1700s who haven't even attempted to go look at primary sources that absolutely exists. They take something for face value and they don't actually research it. And I, and I look, that's, unfortunately a huge percentage of people.

And the thing is, if you do that, you will always be misled all over the place, no matter what. And the way you, truth is felt. Truth is felt through your own research, your lived experiences, study. You need to read. You need to spend time understanding ancient knowledge, understanding symbolism, understanding like the values of what mattered most. And I say this is that go in still with an appreciation of a core of teachings that are in religion, but don't get lost in it.

Yeah, what is the core? The core are these core concepts and teachings that we are inherently good, that we are from above, that we have a higher purpose, that we're supposed to be good, good to ourselves and others. We're supposed to do good. We're supposed to be good to thy neighbor and live a good life. And there's all these core principles. They're part of what's woven in that, right? To find that higher path within, like Jesus said, the kingdom within. Those are all core principles that are carried across everything, pretty much.

Okay. Final question. So in recovery, there's a discussion of almost, I don't know if this is recovery. maybe I applied it to that, but this notion of, and I know they talked about it in the serial killer show where he kills all the people that murder people, Dexter, but the dark passenger, the light and the dark. What do you think the purpose of the dark is if you have light and you have dark? What is the purpose of the dark?

Each one of us provides a fundamental part of who we are. And so it's been considered through ancient esoteric traditions that the dark, once it's wielded and understood, becomes our greatest source of power. And they equate it almost to having like a dog on a leash. Okay, that's how a lot of esoteric ancient traditions, they describe our darkness as being something that we need to get a hold of and be in control of, not have it be in control of us. and that understand that we can never extinguish darkness from within us because it's a fundamental part of who we are. I agree with that. And I think that's a big part of the war of psychology right now

where they want you to believe you can get rid of your darkness. You never can. Because remember, Yang Yang, it's like a fish and another fish swirling around each other. If light consumes darkness, then light can't even exist. That's why within each top and bottom, there's a circle of black within the white and then a circle of white within the black. They cannot exist without each other.

Remember the principles of hermeticism is duality is one of the principles, darkness and light. It's an essential principle of the universe. That's why the annuna play roles of positive and negative. We are the same within us. You can never extinguish all darkness from existing in you, but you can realize that you are not made up of only. darkness, that you are light, but that darkness is a part of you. And then once you, once you balance those and realize that the darkness within you is actually a great strength. If it's harnessed and

balanced, you realize that it's all playing a part. It's all playing roles within us that we need. Darkness is like that fierceness, right? That, that fire. That's that fire that you, that you, that you, you can maintain and hold to go do great things. It comes from, that wielding of our darkness. That's where it comes from. It's going to be crazy, but I literally think that's Bruce Banner and the credible Hulk.

Like, you know, when you're watching the movie and they're like, we need the Hulk, dude. Bring on the fucking Hulk. You know, I talk about that and we'll let you go here in second. But it's like when I was deep in my drug abuse,

I always talk about how I needed that guy to survive what was going through because, like, my career was in shambles. I couldn't go anywhere. And if I didn't have that guy that kind of carried me through that darkness, I probably would have survived, right? So it's like, and then you get to that point where you're like, okay, we've gotten through that. Now it's time to return to the light and work on the positive energy shit.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I always say like, yeah, it's like you're never going to get rid of that darkness, dude, ever. It's like it's part of you and it's there when you need it to kind of power through the, you know, even maybe like in your house gets broken into, right? And you've got to fight to survive. You need that dark side to fucking come out and just go primal on some motherfuckers. That's it. You let that you let out that vicious dog.

Yeah. But the thing is that remember, you must be in control of your darkness. Yes. You can't be in control of you. You can't emphasize that enough. Yes. Yes, that is unhinged that controls you will make you do bad things. If you don't control it.

Yes. But at the same time, I want to add one more layer. Someone who is like of the light only and doesn't do any shadow work, they're never going to be able to advance. Unless you look into your darkness and you delve into your darkness, you will never be able to ascend to a higher level, ever. I agree. Matt, absolutely amazing episode.

Too bad you're already on Mount Crushmore if they could nominate you again. You know, you can't be put on twice. One more time, Matt. Tell them where they can find you. Yeah, please check out the stage of time.com at website where you can also, of course, sign up for the tour that Sam's going to be joining this year. I can't wait. To go find, you know, this lost history that's still in the wild west of archaeology here. And, of course, check out my YouTube, Matthew McCroy.

And I am actually finishing right now the audiobook for the missing key. So get ready for that coming, guys. I just want to say I appreciate everybody that follows me and supports my work. I like to say that the work has actually just begun. Well, Matt, you're crushing it. Really interesting stuff. Really resonates with me. Hope everybody enjoyed it.

It was a great episode. We appreciate coming on. Thank you so much, buddy. And let's break down the episode. All right, guys, what did you think of Matt LaCroi? Part two, part two, baby. I always found that so interesting. I had to do it.

I had to have a part. I don't like, you know, attacking certain religions. I just, especially Christianity, I'm very sensitive about that. And I'm not saying Matt did that. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying in the past when we had to do disclaimers and shit like that, you know, but I do think that religion can get co-opted. And, you know, he's totally right about St. Patty's Day and St. Peter.

It was all about taking out the pagans? Was it about the hermetic principles? I don't know. I find it interesting. What are your guys' thoughts are? Yeah, I agree. Yeah, it's, yeah, I mean, it's, I don't, I've never, when I was a kid, I used to take those things like to heart and they used to disturb me. But now it's just like, you know, it's a big world, man.

There's a lot of, there's a lot of things that can be true. I don't. There's a lot of things that can be true all at the same time, right? That too, yeah. I mean, I just, I think you just have to suss it out for your, you have to decide what works for you at some point. You know, it's like back to his first appearance. last time not this very first one but part one when he goes there's these advanced civilizations but also there were tribal people i think people think there has to be one and the other and he's totally right

we have new york city and the yama mama of south america right like you have both those things coexisting at the same time yeah yeah and then i mean i remember there were these people that came and ran the youth group at my church when I was a kid and they were like too radical for my church and they eventually got kind of run off but I really liked them when we all became friends and they

the thing they said was that the you know the doors of the church have room for your head and your heart you know like you can like that's it you got to be able to intellectual this you know there are people who say that it should only be a kind of a feel thing but I To me, a faith that you can't intellectualize also is not good either.

You know what I mean? I think a real something that is true bears or it stands up under scrutiny. I totally agree with that too. And it gets into anything, your conspiracies, whatever your dogma is, right? Like if you can't just discuss it and be open-minded that maybe there's more to it, I think you're captured. And I apply that, I mean, you apply that to anything. Anybody who gets a little emotional when you maybe suggest that they're wrong about something. Who are you talking about?

I can't imagine. Are you talking about me? No, he's looking at me. He's specifically looking at me, even though it looks like he's looking at you. Even though you're talking about me, give me an example, Johnny. The Netanyahu is dead thing. I still think he's dead. You got really emotional about it.

I think he's really dead. You got really angry about that. I think still think he's dead. No, Johnny, okay. No, I'm just saying. Do you want to relive that? No, no, no, no. I'm saying that.

I just think it's like, hey, you know, like try on an idea, but don't make it your identity. You know what I mean? No, I think you should always keep your head in a swivel at all times. You shouldn't be locked into this is the only way. Like, you know, we've been talking about Kabbalah, and I've had a bunch of friends. tell me it's not that. Wait, it's not which one? It's not this evil thing that's trying to destroy humanity.

Maybe not to them. What do they say about it? I had one friend tell me it's the exact opposite. So I don't know what it is. But again, like, you could have an idea, like you can have a hammer, right? And you could be like, this, I could be like, this is used to kill people. But you're like, oh, actually, it's used to build houses. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Yeah, it's like Scientology, right? The people at the bottom just living their lives. It's works for them. It's great. It's great. But think about it, it's just like probably Kabbalah. The people who practice, everyday people who practice Scientology and got networking because of it, maybe got a few gigs.

It's been great for them, dude. And the people at the top who are ruining people's lives for leaving the church and shit, not so much. You know what I mean? They're the evil. Yeah, they're the extremists. Every group has extremists. You know, I don't know.

Does the Chabad Lovitz guy? Guys, do they practice Kabbalah or are they practicing like... I think they're Orthodox Jews, right? Is that Torah? I thought that's like, I thought that's like Tullimud and Zohar. Let me, let me, okay, what, what, what would you say? Because there's those, also those, those Jews in Israel and in New York City are like, no, dude, Zionism is wrong. Let's see what?

What percentage of that is those, though? Khabad is a branch of Hasidic Judaism, which itself is part of Orthodox Judaism. So, yeah, they're Hasidic. They're Hasidim. I see them, but I don't believe them. Johnny loves black voices. No, that's from Supranos. Okay.

A weird take was that usually people that are like into ancient civilizations, Tartaria is always an option or an idea. And he straight was like, nope, that's not a thing. And then Johnny jumped right behind it. Johnny loves it. Yeah, no, because I hate, people see tartary on a map, and then they're like, boy, that's old and that ain't on our maps today. That must be something special. Hidden knowledge, you know, and it's really just, because I, to me, the people like that. So that's just a made-up map, though? It's just someone- No, no, no, it was a, it was like a country, yeah, called tartary. I mean, it was, yeah, I mean, but I, I, to me, people who really buy into that shit will say, you know, they, they want you to, the world's way more mysterious. And they, you know, they, you know, they, you know, you know, they, you know, you know, you know, they want you to feel small. But that, to me, the idea that humans can't do these wondrous things and we're incapable

of it is nothing makes a man feel smaller than that. This idea that they used to be able to do all this sick shit. But you, you dumb fuck, don't know how to do anything. And you can't possibly because of this lost knowledge that will never know. Do you get what I'm saying? I do know what you're saying. And I, you know, you make me feel small. But that cuts both ways, right?

Right. Because there you could. Well, I mean, it just goes based on the architecture's being. put out right now the type of homes like nothing is. Go to China, right? Go to UAE. You tell me they're not pumping out. Right. I mean, dude, there is a psychological spiritual warfare by the elites on America

because America's military has been hijacked by the Bank of England and uses stormtroopers. And they don't want us smart enough. Just think they don't want smart enough or healthy enough to engage in our politics. So, I mean, just look at like how America is what we're putting out now, how we're competing around the world, all that stuff. Like, we used to dominate and everything. And now, like, yeah, we might win, but it's really close. Or we don't win at all.

At all. Right? What are you speaking out of there? Like, like sports and sports, culturally. Appliances? Appliances. Yeah, I mean, like, dude, China, Japan is lapping the shit out of us. But what do you think Americans are, what was that down to back then?

You think it was our culture was superior to theirs? Yeah, our culture was different. It's kind of like what YouTube, right? YouTube used conspiracy theorists to build YouTube because they were getting all these views. And as soon as they got big enough, they wiped them out. And now they had to bring them back because they were losing views. You know, like people, they basically brought them back

because Rumble and Twitter were starting to get real traction allowing conspiracy theorists. So they're like, okay, okay, you can come back, come back to our platform. You know, I think that's what they do with America. They empowered Americans. They made us look great. They fucking educated us.

Made us really big. Created the whole system. And once the grid was created, now they kind of want to implode it so that we can't participate in anymore. And they can just steal our money. Like they're really trying to, they're really trying to implode the whole thing. Western democracy? Like, or what do you? What?

Implode what? Yeah. Like the constitution, our banking system, our culture. imploded so they can rebuild it in a way China is where if you talk out of hand or anybody, which really destroys entertainment, destroys everything. One world government is what you're thinking. Well, it's more about just like this, this like fascist, top down kind of society. Well, dude, the people that are espousing fascism now, it's like shocking to me that, like,

you know like people who are like we need a strong strong man maybe Trump should get it the world fewer people now are saying that I think he just destroyed his legacy but I think that was his job I mean now nobody's talking about the Republicans just like nobody was talking about Democrats and it's so bad for the Democrats that they have to redistrict everything to have a chance to win now

well you know I was saying with Eric Swalwell I mean they should they should really run him for president because he's the one Democrat who's verifiably into adult women You know? It's like, we know. This guy, he's like he likes chicks, you know? Like he's the best Democrat to run. All the others are fucking PTFs, right? I mean, dude, we're going to get to my dates real quick. Have you seen that in the governor's race that suddenly this Latino guy comes out of nowhere?

Of course. And they're like, oh, he's leading. You're like, he jumped 20 points and nobody knows who he is. It's such a magic trick of bullshit. The elections in California are the most rigged elections. And it's all just sciops and magic tricks. This guy, nobody, dude, I could go down to Hollywood Boulevard, Venice Beach, wherever L.A. people hang out and go, do you know who this guy is?

With the site. I guarantee you. I have no idea who you're talking about, man. Yeah, go look it up. The guy who said they're reading the polls. You have to look it up, Johnny. You're pretty educated. Yeah, I have no idea. And, I mean, if, dude, if Spencer Pratt doesn't win mayor, it's done.

It's a rigged. I mean, because nobody wants any of those fucks. Nobody. Even the hardcore Democrats, I know. It's so funny. They're like. Xavier Bacero. What?

Xavier Baceroa. Is that his name? Is that the guy? Yeah, I think he's a Latino guy. Yeah. Do you know him? Have you heard of him? No.

And he asked my name. No. And I don't even know him. Yeah. Nobody knows this fucking guy. He's the former U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary and the former Attorney General California. there's Chad Bianco, who was the Republican in Riverside County Sheriff.

Steve Hilton is running. Hilton is supposed to be winning. I don't even know, but it was Bianco and Hilton that were leading that there wasn't even going to be a Democrat in the fucking governor's race because the top two are supposed to make it. Bianco is a Republican, right? Yeah. Okay, California polling. Let's see. And then you can do the promo.

Yeah, it says Baceres searches, which is hilarious. 20 points? Yeah. Like out of nowhere. Nobody, he's done nothing magical. There's no giant moment where everyone gets me on. Well, Swalwell, I guess. This says 10 days ago, Eric Swalwell was getting very close to becoming the Democratic candidate for governor of California.

But then he imploded within hours of the revelation. Swallow abandoned his campaign. I wasn't hours. It was days. Those turned off by Tom Steyer, who's been spending lavishly on TV. His wealth has turned some people off, I guess, because, you know, you're wealthy or evil. I guess this is, they're saying that

they all ran together. They held hands and ran to his house. Like it's such bullshit. The Democratic Party released its latest tracking poll on Monday revealing that the two Republicans that Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco are still leading the pack. 16%. Oh, that's so low. 16%

and 14%. However, the big news is that Pesera has shot up from 4% to 13% topping all Democrats. Well, they had it at 23% two days. I think that's probably among the Democrats, and then like, including all parties, he's, but that's, I mean, that's it's all garbage, dude. It's garbage. Nobody knows who this fucking guy is.

It's all fucking, you know, and I love the, dude, the Democrats are doing so bad. They had to completely rig Virginia. And do you know what the end result of the poll was? Which poll? The voting was in Virginia to redistrict. it was like 50.8 to 49.2. I'm sure that was legit. Oh, and like 35,000 votes just came in at the end under yes.

And they'll never do anything about it, dude. They're such hypocrites for that, bro. All they talked about was gerrymandering. And then they were like, you know what, we'll do it too. Yeah, 100%. And now it went from like six Democratic, uh, politicians got in and five, now it's 10 and 1. 10 Democrats.

We need a new system. One, dude, have you been hearing about Andrew Wilson saying that women should be allowed to vote? And again, should not? Yeah. And he brings up some valid points because they can't go to war. They can't do a lot of shit. And it's not just women.

I don't think that should be vote. I think you should have to, you should prove that you are actually. emotionally and intellectually fit to vote. They should give you a quiz on at least you should have to answer a question about who you're voting for. And you only get one shot at because you got to do it somewhere you can't Google.

They flash their faces up on the screen and you have five seconds to pick the picture of the person. And you know what you're the best part? You vote anyways. They just don't count your vote if you don't know. That way you don't feel bad. That way no one feels bad. That way everyone's just like,

yo, you voted. And if you didn't pass fucking test, you just like to be muted on Twitter. it on Twitter. Yeah, it's just being muted. Like, yo, thank you for because then they're not going to want to vote. They're not going to want to vote anymore. So we have to- They just rig it, all right? That'd be so easy to rig, right? But there's got to be some kind of, and they call that, what the Democrats will do is call that a poll tax, because that's how they kept black people from voting. You know, they'd add poll taxes or

they'd make requirements. Like, you had to pass like a, there used to be. I think voting should be free. I think you should actually prove that you're engaged enough to vote. I remember I was talking to this one female comic. This was like 15, 16 years ago. She told me she voted for Obama because he's cute. I'm like, you should not be voting. Right? I mean, and there's also idiots who are on the right that shouldn't be voting. Oh, of course there are. Yeah. You know, it's not just get rid of the left. Get rid of like the crazies on the right too. No, do an even percentage. Get rid. I just, yeah. Yeah, people are like rock the vote, get out the vote. No, no, we have fewer voters. Yeah, we don't want to rock the vote. If you're voting because

you're trying to rock. We don't need you voting. You're on everything right now. Yeah. Sock the vote. Sock the vote. Stay home from the vote. We should go out.

We should print shirts and stuff and go out and be like, stay home on election day. Stay home from the vote. Yeah. Anybody who we should get like a really shitty musician like this, like we should have a machine gun Kelly concert. And then everybody who's there's like, listen, you're in the machine gun Kelly. Probably don't need to vote. Yeah.

We'll give you a free. corn dog. If you end into any of this, stay home from the boat. All right, guys, go to samtripple.com. Dallas tonight, Fort Worth, tomorrow night, Huntington. My special, I got to send myself to them to make sure they're okay with it. I hadn't heard back from them and I don't know if that's good. Why wouldn't they be okay with it? It's a Legion of Skanks, right? Yeah, listen, it's not them. I'm not saying that, but if it's like how much of the YouTube rules do you want to follow? Oh, oh, I see. You're thinking of the out. I got you.

Yeah. Right. It's not them. They love it. I could go on at either show. That's where they out. But it's being published to YouTube is what you're doing. Yeah.

It's going to put it on their channel. I don't want to get them in trouble. Oh. That's the only reason. They're not censoring at all. They seem to get away with a lot more than we do. I'll say that. It's on their channel.

Yeah. Johnny, we were conspiracy theorists on this channel. It's like when I look at certain, there's other old school conspiracy theories. And you look at like their views like 15 years ago. hundreds of thousands that you look at them now 5,000 views. It's like, what are you doing? Like, you're not allowing people to compete. And it's like, and you're, but you're allowing people doing the same thing that we're doing to compete.

Yeah. There's not right. Well, no, I won't say. Albuquerque. It's a scam. It's, no, it's, it's just like they're, they're so queenie about it. It's a bunch of bitchasses over their YouTube going, wah. I'm torn between whether it's arbitrary or whether it's really targeted, though.

No, Tombstone is. The Tombstone algorithm is targeted as, we remember you, asshole. 1,000 episodes sold out. Joke World. Excuse me, go up. St. Petersburg, and then Lawrence, Kansas, then Tulsa, and then finally... The only answer for us is to drive up your sub numbers on YouTube. And Austin.

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Anything else? I just want to thank everybody who came to my 420 show, Sam killed it. We packed it out. So Swarm, if you pulled up, I just want to say thank you. New BS that will be out by the time you hear this. Boy, we had some, we got so much to talk about. about this is the crazy i just feel like i say it every week now but every week is crazy in the last check out broken simulation on i iTunes whatever the hell and then not youtube uh i i thought mad

crow was great i find it very interesting i've also said i believe a lot in mysticism yeah but but what i was in asking i know i know we kind of went over it you booking your tour yet i haven't yet i will go i think you should i think yeah the region of vaughn and see my people and i don't have to bro I am a descendant of Gilgamesh. You have to stay. I am a descendant of Samarian Kings. I would tell you to do your, what is it, that DNA test? No.

I know, I know. I know you should. I want my brother to do it just so I can be like, they can have your shit. There we got it. No, they'll still connect you to it. People have got it. I know we might not be perfectly matched, right? Isn't that weird when a brother's got more dick gene than you do?

He does have a bigger dick, Johnny. Does that make you feel better? Yeah, you tell us that all the time. Yeah, my brother who's younger has a bigger dick than me. He's got the bowling jeans. But who has the kids? This guy. Who's gun shoots?

I mean, I mean, you're proud of your brother, right? No, I love my brother. Yeah, that's what I mean. You got to be proud of having a hog. He's a great bro. Good looking guy. Hog. Great, great guy, fat hog.

Master of the Irish exit. I don't even know what that means. You just leave without saying goodbye. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's one of those. brother. He's one of those? He doesn't do that as much. No, he did that like three times in Austin when I was there. I was just, he was in the green room and your show was on and then he just disappeared. Never saw him again. My brother's such a weirdo like that. He likes to just roam. He's a row. I do that too.

I was about to say, yeah, you do the same thing. I've been to major sporting events with you where you just walked the concourse for like 30 minutes at time. I just like to stare at people. My sister does that same thing when she disappeared with the Irish goodbye. Yeah, I do that too. She told me she's like, you save like six months of your life, not saying. by the people. Oh, I do just leave. I used to do that in relationships. Jimmy, Joey Diaz used to do that all the time. He would be on one of my shows.

He's like, I gotta go use the bathroom. I'm like, thanks are coming on, Joey. Always a pleasure to talk to you. Take care. That's great, man. Yeah, that's really fun. Yeah, I thought it was great, dude. You know, being the Senate of Gilgamesha,

Samarian King, that really resonated with me. And just, you know, it's interesting, though, though, right? The underworld, the, The three levels. Oh, the three doors right behind Jesus. Oh, dude, Johnny, come on. You don't think that was crazy?

Oh, I do. But I mean, that's not a photograph of the last supper. I know, but still, Johnny, I'm not saying it's a photograph. I'm saying that the fact that you put that in there? Yeah, no, of course. That's super interesting. Yeah, it's. Work with me.

It is interesting to me, too, that it kind of relates to the tree of knowledge of good and evil. know, I mean, because this seems like maybe it could be related to that. And then you get into like Elser Crowley and all he did was flip everything to make it dark, you know, so above, so below. The way as above so below. As above so below. The way that everyone is like, that's dark arts, dude. That's occult darkness.

And you're like, well, if they did that so you don't look into it. Yeah. Baphimate. I mean, with the fingers up and down, you know, that whole thing. It's such a so many layers. It's a mind fuck of minefields. It's a minefuck. It's a field of mind fuchs.

Should I make that the title? Or the t-shirt. Or the t-shirt. The question I did forget to ask. Oh, dude, if I made a t-shirt that the fit is flat earther would have 30 issues on it. Did you just see your new little special series that he just pulled out of you? It was like a seven-minute real? Yeah, yeah.

Dude, that's all he does. Oh, look at his hat. Like, dude, I saw Cooper Cup wearing an upside down hat. That's all L.A. They're very popular now. He's like, yeah. They're average. Oh, he's falling angels.

It's funny because he got someone that your face kind of does have a comparison and he does that thing. Yeah. Hold on. Are you saying he's. No, no, he's not right. Give me a second. No, no, no. Hold on.

But are you saying the Francis Bacon thing? No, he found someone else that kind of looks like you. Another person. Another person. And he got really close to your. your face and your mouse got linked up comparison but then he's like but the teeth don't but I don't know what they do with the teeth so it's like it doesn't work but he's some finding a way to do it uh yeah we need to know Johnny we'll talk about MBS yeah I'll pull it up right here okay yeah now

who am I the fittest flurfer I mean he's just dude it's so obvious what he's doing major under obviously every time he does something with me he gets views so that's why he keeps doing it he could come on broken Sam anytime I offered him. He won't come on, dude. Yeah, because he's got nothing to defend. You're going to be like, dude, I'm a retard. I'm obviously not Francis Bacon, one of, you know,

the greatest... You got put fittest. Writers in history. The fittest, flat earther. This is taking too long. Just use spelling is taking too long. Oh, there he is. Is it there? Yep. So, where's

the newest one he just made of you? Look at this. I mean, it's always like, this guy looks like this guy. Oh, is he saying Epstein is Andrew Jackson right there? Dude, you know what he's really doing his basic bitch shit? Look how fat I was there, dude. Look how fat I was. He should do that.

He should be like they've cloned him or he's shape shifted because I was so fat back then. What's he saying, though? No, he's like, yeah. Yeah. You have to share, remember. Yeah. No, but he got you some new guy, which is weird because it's some guy that already,

he's alive now, but yet you're him at the same time. Yeah, it's so great. And then he puts the boy. I have really great friends, and they were trying to contact him to tell him that. It's not true. Yeah, that's the great. I'm like,

I love that. He like, cause I have a Raider's shirt on, right? Right? Right? He's not saying you're Teddy. Oh, no, he's saying that. These guys all look alike.

Like, literally, Robert Williams is playing him. And he's like, look how similar they look. It's like he's playing a role, you dumbass! But the best part is he actually played the clip of us talking about it on the pot. Oh, really? Yeah, he played it. Of course he does. He's a fucking retard.

He's going to play that on there, you fucking retard. Do you notice what he's doing there too? He's doing commentary of something else that he already did a clip? Sam, Aho. Have you seen this? He's just so dumb. Play that again. Play that.

See, that's the episode. That's the episode. That's the episode. He's playing the clip where Johnny's talking. talking about. He's like, why would you come back as Francis Bacon? And we're like, you know, Shakespeare. Remember your Shakespeare as well?

Yeah. It all got brought back into it. It's hilarious. I mean, he's just such an idiot. I mean, hey, play this, you fucking retard. You are a fucking basic bitch conspiracy theorist. And like, like he's showing us this fucking thing. Dude, he's so stupid, dude.

He's so dumb. Play what he's saying. Do you think he's for real? Dude, a lot of people think he's a Fed. are you saying that just to get his goat? No, a lot of people called him a fed. I just think he's probably just, he realized what gets him a little traction.

No, of course. Well, there's one show in this world that I watch. And it just happens to be below deck. And remember, he watches below, that's like C tier reality TV. That's what we think so are. That's what we.

Oh my God! That is so hilarious. We make a fan. Yeah, dude, he just, Just dumb. Oh, my God, dude. Look at the voice. You have anger?

All the time. I'm Armenian. Yeah, I go zero the felony very quickly. And that's a big part of just, like, breathing. And, like, knowing that I... Nobody's hearing this, but... Yeah. Sam's voice, who has anger.

Let's hear what Bobby has to say. That's you. What is he saying? They're saying that you cloned his voice, I guess. Yeah, or that you look... Yeah, dude, he goes... But what is he saying? the people who say that Bill Hicks and Alex Jones are the same person,

despite the fact that they lived at the same time. I don't know what he's saying there. It's so dumb. He's not a bright guy, bro. Yeah, okay. I love it. Thank you for letting everybody know about my shit. Act such fucking retard.

I mean, just literally the dumbest. You know, he used to be a PE teacher, right? I'm going to be honest with you. He's a PE teacher? A retired PE teacher. No, the best part of this is like, it's almost like, what is the best defense stupidity? Like he's so dumb, he doesn't even know.

Oh yeah, you couldn't sue him for it because they would just be like that. He's like, he would show up just, just fucking drooling on himself. God bless you, fit, fit is flat earther. Yes, God bless you, sir. Enjoy the grift. Enjoy making money off my name. Have a great time, dude. Enjoy. I'm glad I could help you get some views and help, you know, pay the bills.

It's hilarious. Anyways, enjoy the highlights. Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. So here is, we'll just play just a little of this. He was there to discuss fast-tracking Ibogaine. Okay, let's keep that in mind. Yeah, yeah, which is. Let's keep that in mind.

If you're listening, it's Trump at a desk. It's an awkward thing because Trump's at a desk looking back over his shoulder at Rogan, who's immediately behind him along with a host of other people, including RFK Jr. Trump, some information. of a gigantic opiate problem in this country, obviously. In 2024, more than 80,000 people died of overdoses. It's a horrible number. And there's more than 5 million people that are addicted

to opiates right now in this country. With one dose of I've gained more than 80% of people are free of that addiction. With two doses, it's more than 90%. I sent him that information. The text message came back sounds great. Do you want FDA approval? Let's do it.

It was literally that quick. These drugs are illegal not because they're harmful. They're illegal because of the 1970 controlled substances act that was passed by the Richard Nixon administration. They did it to target the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement. It's not because these drugs harm people. And for 56 years, we've lived under those terrible conditions. We're free of that now.

free of that now. Thanks to all these people that we see next to me and thanks to President Trump. Can I just say really? So Detroit Rogan says this thing like, yeah, he's like you want FDA approval. Now Trump, you could see immediately he makes a face like he's not quite happy with that. Don't say the out loud. Yeah, yeah. So listen, and now this is CYA, the CYA moment for Trump right here. This is great. CYA, what does that mean? Cover your ass. Your own respect, Joe. It's a little bit more liberal than. That's okay.

I have a lot of friends that are liberal. But Joe is an amazing guy. He wrote me a little note about this, and I had it checked out. I didn't just do it. I had to check out. I went to Bobby and Oz. I went to some of the people that work for you,

Real Pros, and everybody came back with the same answer. You know, normally they'll come back because this happens a lot. I have a couple of them like that. They're not sure. It's like, you know, it goes too ways. This thing, everybody thought it was incredible. so yeah that's funny he was like no i didn't just like text him back doesn't he want fdaa approval obviously

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you're not that corrupt here you know you know he did that you know he immediately it was like yes sure of course he did and like nobody freaked out about that so so here's the thing guys as you know i am very protective of joe rogan i'm not going to apologize for that uh it's just you know i'm just an old school guy you're loyal to people who helped you and of unless the guy is involved in a murder or hurting people like children, I'm ride or die. And I, you know, and if that becomes a thing that sinks the whole ship, then the ship gets sunk. You know, it's just, that's not, that's not how I was raised, dude, you know, you stick by the people that showed you kindness when they didn't have to.

And that's, that's it. So when I, when I go, people are like, oh, he's so, you did this. Like, okay, so let's break down the issue right here, which is, does this drug help people who are addicted to opiates, right? And by the way, the fact that only 5 million people are addicted to the opiates, that seems low to me in this country because apparently they all live near me because it seems like it's everywhere, right? 5 million?

Is that the number they're saying? It's way more than that. It's got to be way more than that. 5 million, you're like in a country of 330 million people. That seems low. I think it's way higher than that. Um, you know, so, so I mean, are we talking about is this a good issue? Is this an important issue?

Right. Is it, is it true that this drug helps people after two doses get off of opiates? Is it true? Let's just say for the sake of argument, it is true. Right? I don't, don't know why Rogan would go up there and lie like that. You know, I mean, he seems very like, uh, he works with precision. in his life. So let's say it's true. It's true. Right. What is he supposed to do? Is he supposed to wait

until aOC gets in the presidency and try to make that happen? I mean, he has a lifeline. He has a, he has a connection to the president. It doesn't mean they agrees with everything the president's doing. No. I mean, no, obviously. But why wouldn't you, Johnny, if you knew, if you knew that you could get But plugs for women passed for free. And I was the head of the department. And maybe you don't like that I make everybody salute the Raider flag when they go to school every day. You don't like that. But you know you have it in with me to get free butt plugs to the ladies, right?

Would you call me and try to pitch why we should have butt plugs for the world? You pick the issue closest to my heart, Sam. Okay. But plugs for women. So obviously, yes. I mean, I would, I can't think of much I wouldn't do to get to get that important. For the ladies, for the hot moms in the in the comment section that just can't afford butt plugs.

Okay. Yes. Would you not want to be, want to help them? Their moms are working hard. I am trying to get the country on the butt plug standard. You know, we all are, dude. We got to get our money back by something. And I mean, you've seen.

statistics which say moms with butt plugs are happier people, okay? Yes. Why wouldn't you, why wouldn't you call me up even though you hate that everyone has to salute to Raider flag every time they go to a federal building or a school that might make you upset, but you're looking a big picture. So why wouldn't you do that? That's my question. You know, and it also gets in this thing. I've had conversations with people about the, the Charlie Kirk, where was Rogan? If you'd like to hear the rest of this episode, subscribe to Broken Simulation in your podcasting app, or check us out at YouTube.com slash Sam Tripoli. Dude, you just blew my mind.