Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #995: Perception Management With Greg Carlwood

Episode Date: May 29, 2026

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This year, we're eating 2025's food. But in 27, there's not going to be nearly as much food as there was because the Strait of Hermuz crisis was strategically engineered to happen right during harvest season. Many farmers did not have the diesel to actually farm their crops. So they watched acres of crops just die. And that's the food we're supposed to eat next year in the grocery store. What the fuck are you guys who are talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them.

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metals work in a digital era of digital money but anyways enough of that very excited to have our next guest on uh i give him all the credit in the world as being one of the o gs of this shit of uh this wonderful thing that we do called conspiracy content um him and uh what is the other one i was talking about uh we talked about recently anyways so he's one of the ogs of it very excited to have a mom please welcome the one only from the higher side chats. Greg Carlwood. How are you, Greg? Hey, what's happening, man? Six out of ten. How are you? Yeah, hey, dude, six out of ten ain't bad, doc. Six out of ten ain't bad. With a worldly perspective, that is pretty true. Greg, for those who might live under a rock and not know who you are,

can tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you. Well, I'm just a man whose intentions are good. And, you know, one of the question askers, as they say, but I've been doing an interview-based podcast in the conspiracy space since 2010 going on 16 years now, doing podcasts about as long as anybody, and that's what I do.

The higher sitechats.com. Who's the original VJ on MTV? What's his name? Adam Curry. Adam Curry show. What is that called again? Sorry, Adam. No agenda.

No agenda. You and no agenda, the OGs, dude. Been doing this for a long-ass time. Yeah. And especially in the conspiracy space. At the time, I was paying a lot of attention to Red Ice Radio and Alex Jones and Coast to Coast A.m. And I thought, Coast to Coast A.m. had way too many ads.

And Alex Jones never let his guest talk. So I was like, if I just don't do those two things, I think I can do half as good as these guys. And Red Ice decided they were going to go alt-right. Like, they went from outside of, you know, nonpartisan, totally thinking everything's corrupt to we are an alt-right show. They say it in their intro. and it's like, okay, more for me then. And so then I was the only one for a little while,

and now we're a dime a dozen. So let me ask you something. Was that an terrestrial radio that you were on? And then you started your own podcast, or was that a podcast network you were on? And then you said, I'm just going to go do my own thing. No, I mean, I've never done a network. I've always just been me in a microphone.

And I've been through some occasional co-host, but no one had the real dedication. So everybody fell off. And they fell off before I've. made money, thank God. And then I don't know him anything, you know, so I get the whole bag. That's why I've indentured service.

They have no, their slaves to the show. Yeah, I mean, it's a crazy journey because I'm sure what you were talking about at the beginning of what could be coming is here. And yeah, it's

crazy. It is. And I actually remember I think the first time I was on your show was 2016 or 2015. It was during the first Trump running election cycle. And I remember we were talking about it and just the prospect that Trump was courting for the first time ever, the conspiracy-minded person. I mean, that had never really happened in an election. And we were speculating on how it would go and how it could end up changing the culture. And man, now we're on the other side of that. And it's just like insane. But I miss the old days of conspiracy where you'd go to a

conference and it's really just a fringe counterculture of people who are in it for the love of the truth and curiosity and it's sponsored by like a crystal company and a guy who makes copper pyramids and everybody's selling their DVDs and now it's just like now it is like um I guess it's just a genre of podcasting and if you don't know what to do you can either start a comedy podcast or a conspiracy podcast or both but it just seems like like now with the way the internet is all about just eyeballs and the attention economy, you'll have people that are putting out stuff like, what's the big conspiracy behind trees?

And it's like none of this is actionable anymore. You know, it used to kind of, I don't know, it used to feel like it meant something and went a little deeper. And now it's like, what's the most wild idea you have rather than what is the core truth of a thing? Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, you know, in December, the show will be 10 years old.

You know, and to be honest with you, you were the first of, I would say, real guests we had. Okay. And what I mean by that is like the show started as, I just wanted to talk comedians about conspiracies. And then we had this off-the-grid Ryan guy who's a good friend of mine, haven't heard from him in years. I don't know where he is or what he's doing. And I hope he's okay and happy. But, you know, I go, hey, man, you help me book this thing. So he started booking and, you know, you were the, because, you know,

Joey Diaz would come on and, you know, one of the big first shows was Duncan Trussell and Doug Stanhope. So it was like talking conspiracies with comedians. And then you came on and it kind of kick started the show into something a little more serious, which is now it is. It's like news for people. And, you know, we do say we are the training wheels. I say it all the time.

The training wheels would get to your guys' shows or no agenda shows. You know, the, the shallow end of the pool, I always say. Well, you know, you know what's really funny is I had a similar start. I didn't know how to do it. And I was talking to local San Diego comics about conspiracy. And I had Duncan on and I had Joey Diaz on and Ari. I interviewed Ari Shafir in my car in the parking lot of the La Jolla comedy store with my laptop on the dashboard.

And that's how great. we were back then. And that's how I started. And then when I got Michael Tesarian, I was like, oh, now here is some meat. And I just was like, you know, instead of talking to people who are funny about stuff they don't really know anything about, why don't I just forget the funny part and talk about the talk to the people directly who have the information. And yeah, it's been great.

But very similar start. Yeah. It's how it starts, one thing and ends another way. It's always interesting. You brought you know you've been doing it since when did you say 2010? Yeah. You know, I think we'll look back those who were blessed enough to live through it. How wild and amazing around 2015 was like the internet was just amazing and everyone was that, you know, Hillary hadn't run yet.

Well, she's running and she hadn't gotten kneecapped by the internet and her just pushed to kind of bring in censorship or maybe the, that was always the plan. But, you know, like in 2015, you could find any doc you wanted on YouTube and, you know, podcasts were everywhere. Reddit was pure fire. The Reddit conspiracy Reddit was pure fire, dude. And then the lizards came in and they shut everything down. And, you know, I know that everyone thinks and I don't know about you.

You know, Greg, I'm going to be honest with you. I go and I look at like your earlier shows. and this is very much about Tim Foll had as well. You can't find them because I took them all down in this hopes of saving this channel. You know, but I look back at some of your old episodes and the numbers you were getting on that and the numbers you're getting now.

And your numbers are great. That's not me saying you're not doing well. You're doing great. But it's just like, you know, we're talking like hundreds of thousands of views. Yes, you know, and you can't offend me, by the way. Like, let's not even tiptoe around stuff. But like my channel now,

So my show is mainly audio only. And I've only done video the last year. So I'm playing catch up on that. I was late to that game. But still, the audience is 90% audio. But if you look at my YouTube channel, it's in shambles. I got 100,000 subscribers, but I can't barely get 10,000 views. So there were no, I could have sworn I saw because I texted you about it, that when I went back to the early, early years of your show, I thought you had.

had episodes on there and I thought I saw them get hundreds of thousands of views. Was I wrong on that? No, you're right, but they were just audio episodes with a static screen or maybe they were a clip from when we did a live show together, like the one with Eddie Bravo arguing with the guy in the audience, the Earth Scientist as a clip that's got triple digits on my channel. But part of it is my fault because when YouTube started like slapping me on the wrist and putting me in time out and giving me two strikes and not letting me post for 90 days. Like it became really hard to be consistent.

So I stopped posting there. And then I kind of did a bait and switch on people, which wasn't really the move. But I would make a show and I would post it like it looked like an episode. And then I'd say, hey, if you want to hear this, you got to go to my website because YouTube's fucking with me. So people would click it probably got pissed. And then I stopped posting there for several years. Now that I'm doing video, I'm trying to get it back. So part of it is my fault, but it only happened because of the censorship.

If they would have never fucked with me, I would have never done anything. But now I think, yeah, it's probably algorithmically suppressed and all that. For sure. It's fine. We do what we do. It's why I've always maintained my own website and encouraged people to go there specifically because no one can really, you know, knock on wood, get to me there. Obviously, we have pain points with our payment processors and this and that.

But I just couldn't ever be in the YouTube ecosystem and let it, and can, consider it part of my reliable income. That was never going to work. But it seems like they've taken their foot off the censorship gas a little bit. I think that's because. For new channels, but I think you probably fall into what my channel falls into, which is tombstone algorithms, which is this understanding that, okay, we're going to let you guys talk because we lost so much traffic.

We're going to let you do it. But you old guys, we remember what you did to us. us and you're the reason we have to let these guys go. We're still going to pound the fuck out of you and let all these shiny object shows go. And I'm happy they're going. This is not Player Hayden. I never play or hate. If I'm jealous, it's because I wish I was with you, not that it wasn't happening to you.

I would love to be up there with you. I'm happy when anybody fucking makes it. But, you know, it's just like it's so obvious what is happening. And they're letting the new guys roam and bring in new people. It's like what Netflix is doing with my. friends in the Joe Rogan sphere, whatever they want to call it. They're letting them back on Netflix because they want, they want them to bring back an audience that they left. It was, they were, their numbers were going down and they wanted to be like, look, look, look, we're letting Tony

Hinchcliff, Rose, Chelsea Handler and all this shit. So, you know, it's all done that's all done on purpose. They don't like us. They don't want to. And it just sucks because your show is one of the best shows and it is one of the best information content out there and I just was like damn dude that fucking sucks that fucking sucks yeah it does and I had Ice Age farmer he kind of went away for almost two years and he came back Christian Westbrook he's using his regular name now but he said something that resonated with me where he said he sees an inverse relationship maybe it's a mechanism of the universe you know the long arc of the moral universe tilts towards good, but it is a very long arc, as they say.

And he thinks there's a relationship where the harder they squeeze us, the more people tend to wake up. And you can look at YouTube, YouTube squeezed, and then what happened? Odyssey and Rumble popped up. And now they have to contend with that. Now they're not real competitors to YouTube, and there's a lot of flaws with that, but it's still something. So, you know, if they do another clamp down like that,

because it was kind of like just during the COVID years, a five-year period of clamp down, and then it kind of went away. And now I feel like now it's, as you say, we're in a bucket of algorithmic suppression, but other people can do controversial shows that are really covering the same material. But I think they realize that if we become known as a place that's to censorship forward, we create our own competition when we really don't need to do that. Yeah. I think Rumble's very interesting.

and we have some buddies who work over there that we love very much. And I was telling this to Johnny on another show. I don't know which it was, but, you know, the CIA is very much behind YouTube and who they blow up, who they don't blow up. Well, Rumble has Pellantir. And, you know, Peter Thiel and Pellantir. And I don't like Peter Thiel. I do love the All Drugs Are Good Olympics.

I think that's fucking great. Let them do as much. much drugs as they want. Let's see how good they could get. But I wonder if YouTube is in trouble because they're backed by an old, an old mechanism, the CIA, if we're going to, if they're going to need the CIA when they have Pellantir being able to watch every camera and everything there, then, you know, now Rumble has Pellantir behind them. I do think that could be an interesting play. I think Rumbles... When did that merge happen? Or has it always happened that Peter Thiel is behind Rumble and Peter Thiel is Pellantir.

Okay. You know, and once they kind of take over, if they do take over, you know, and again, if they were winning all the time, we would have bar codes on our heads. We'd all be in 50-minute cities and we'd be getting vaccines every week. So I'm less black-pilled about that. I have black pill moments for sure. But I definitely think that, you know, there's still a. chance. I think humanity will only go so far when they try to push us into even more absurd that

people go, whoa, that's a little too much. We'll see what happens, right? You know, with these AI data centers, there seems to be a big push. Now, now the Homeland Security is labeling anybody anti-Data Center as a terrorist. Have you guys seen that? Like, that's fucking nuts. Yeah, it's, it's going to be bad. You know, the crazy thing, I mentioned Ice Age Farmer, and he kind of maybe he was a little bit overselling the shortages that he expected to see during COVID, because that was his big thing that he got attention for is the supply change disrupted, you know, you expect massive shortages, and maybe it didn't really happen here, but from a global perspective, it did happen in places that are less fortunate than the good old US of A.

And a lot of people, the advice at the time was go get your food from a local farmer, go get your meat from a local ranch, get outside of the conventional system, and create a parallel economy. It's what Catherine Austin Fitz is always saying. And people have a weird psychology about, like, if it's not an absolute code red panic moment, they just fail to act.

But what you can look at is the trend. So COVID didn't get us there. Well, look at everything that's going on. And it seems like chaos, but there's a lot of narrative cohesion between all these different sectors of life, all pushing towards the same kind of thing again, which will be energy rationing, tracking and tracing,

massive data centers. Why do they need that? If you stop the internet technology right now, I'd say it's pretty good. Everything moves pretty fast. What do we need these data centers for? If we have this without them, then we should be good.

But what we don't have is digital IDs and programmable money and the tracking and tracing of every single. individual and their AI companions spending their own money for them and rules on what money can be spent on what and the carbon credits and all that. So just because it isn't here today doesn't mean that isn't the trend. I don't care if it takes two years or 20 years. That's what they're going to continually try to do. It'll be a new operation and then it'll probably cool off for five years as it did and then another new operation. Right now it's World War III and data centers and the Strait of Hermuse bullshit.

And they say that problem is really, really bad. And it's going to affect gas prices for several years. And who knows what, like, another thing Christian Westbrook said is this year, we're eating 2025's food. But in 2027, there's not going to be nearly as much food as there was because the straighter her moose crisis was strategically engineered to happen right during harvest season. Many farmers did not have the diesel to actually farm their crops.

So they watched acres of crops just die. And that's the food we're supposed to eat next year in the grocery store. So that's going to be fun. I just had Joel Salton on from Polyface Farm, probably the most famous farmer out there, the lunatic farmer. He said that fertilizer prices went up so high that some farmers were lucky enough to have a pre-contracted price. You know, the corporate world.

You contract this price out in advance. It's not going to go above this. These are my margins, all that. And so some farmers who had a price. pre-contracted price. They said, look, I'm not even going to use fertilizer this year. I'm not going to plant this year. I can make more money just reselling the fertilizer at the current rate than using it. So that's another farmer that's not planting. So now you have half the farmers can't get the fertilizer they need, which they don't actually need, but in the corporate death

system they need it. And the other half are like, I'm not even going to plan. I'm just going to sell it to the other guy who now has to spend twice as much to get it. So what's the price of his food going to be next year. So these are the things. These are the trends that will continue and you know it doesn't really matter if you if your store shelves are empty if you know that's the direction

they're going. So it's hard to get in front of problems that you don't see happening until 5, 10, 15 years down the road but these are psychopaths. The management class hates us and they're going to continue to try to do these things. And it's just like I've been trying to say

if they just give us nice things, they could probably get everything they wanted. Hey guys, you got a fucking, you got a cell phone, your wife's got fake tits, your own house, your porn is in 4K, you're fucking, you're making money,

you got a 401k coming. Oh yeah, by the way, we're going to track you everywhere. Everyone be like, I don't give a shit, I'm living comfortable. No cancer? Can you stop with the pesticides and all that?

Yeah, they did that. I mean, they could get literally everything they wanted, but it's just not their mindset, their mindset is worshipping dark, dark energy and dark arts and all that shit. Right. That's why I do think it's a spiritual thing. I've said a long time ago, these people are in their 80s and they're still going to work. To me, that's failure.

That's absolute fucking failure. How much money can you have? Clearly, you're a slave to something else. Yes. It's something that you have made a deal with that will not let you off the hook. Maybe it's blood in blood out and you're in this mafia type deal and that's how you got your privileged position. but it is very clear to me that just by the nature of their behavior,

you know, Bill Gates, does Bill Gates have as much freedom as I do? It doesn't seem like he does because he has to constantly be doing this shit when he should just retire somewhere. Yeah, it's hilarious. His daughter's like, my friends won't talk to me anymore because of my dad. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. They don't like Darth Vader. I'm sorry about that.

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Frankie Valley. Why is Frankie Valley up there? Mick Jagger, all this stuff. Yeah, just stop. Can you? I mean, at least Jagger can move. Frankie Valligan just waddles around. And he can hardly lip sync.

That's how just completely out of. I mean, he looks like, it's so sad. For some reason, for some reason when we talk about someone who sings, I can maybe believe that they still love to do it. But a politician, at 80, you still want to go into fucking Congress and go sit there. That's the one that literally blows my memory. You're a slave. That's power.

That's power. Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell, just stop. Yeah. You're going to die soon. Don't you want to just enjoy every day? You want to go stand at the fucking podium with all these idiots and just constantly navigate these giant crowds and just give it up.

Yeah. But they got something on them, so he has to keep going. And none of them seem happy, right? None of them seem happy. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they're just happy. They're still alive because, you know, the threat again, it's.

assassinated is is constantly there. Yes. Greg, you brought up that you just lost a friend. Can we get into that real quick? It's a sad day. You know, he's been on a show before. I think he's been on it twice. Gordon White passed away unexpectedly this month.

Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't hear about it, but, you know, whatever, a lot of things are happening. David Wilcock also died. Peter J. Carroll died. But yeah, so Gordon, 44 years. years old, one of my closest confidants and closest colleagues, one of the only people, maybe beside yourself, to really transcend from just the work-life, you know, partition in my life. I have a work and personal partition that really doesn't get crossed very often, but you've

met my wife, one of the only people I've ever done shows with who's met her, but Gordon was really something else. He was one of my closest friends from the show. We would talk all the time, many years going. The only other person I did live shows with besides yourself. And, you know, he was always pushing me to, like, he was living in Paraguay. He was a real, a real world traveling wizard. And he'd be like, let's meet up in Panama, bring the kids. They have really good systems out there. So he was always pushing me to travel more. And I know that the trajectory of my life is far different now, because I'm not going to do a lot of things that I probably would have done with his motivation.

But what happened was he was working on his third book in what he calls the Dot Trilogy. He has starships, animistic, and then he was working on this third one. And he was doing a lot of ayahuasca and hanging out with a lot of indigenous shamans and healers and various spiritual systems, magic systems in Central America, South America. And he, what's crazy is we don't know a whole lot. Now, I know he had a heart problem. During COVID, he, some intuitive people sometimes take in people's pain as their own. And they say it has a real physiological effect on the body.

So Gordon was hearing all these complaints and absorbing all this stuff. about like, you know, his friend's kid is in the sixth grade and is now paranoid to take his mask off, even at home, wants to sleep in his mask. Like, all this heartbreaking shit that happened during COVID. Like, Gordon took a lot of this in and internalized it and he developed this really bad heart problem. Like, again, he thinks they're connected. Who knows? But I do think there's a connection between emotions and obviously stress and our health. So he.

You know, he was in Australia and blockdowns were really, really crazy in Australia. And eventually he did end up getting the Novavax because he asked his spirit team and he did his research and he thought the Novavax was the one with the least amount of side effects. And he thought his body could handle it and then he could heal it magically on the other end. And so this, but the thing that people are getting twisted is like it didn't, he didn't get the vaccine and then have heart problems. he had part problems, then maybe took something that exacerbated it, and then, you know, had regular flare-ups where his heart would be a problem. I remember him texting me and being like, you know, how you doing, man? And I said, well, it's, yesterday was St. Patty's day. So I'm dealing with a, you know, my stomach is not loving all the green beer yesterday. He's like, oh, yeah, I woke up and my right arm was tingling. But, you know, just got to get on with the day. And I'm like, man, you know, these are red, flags, buddy. And then you're doing ayahuasca. And he died in Kusko, which is, is, um, Kusko, Peru is one of these cities that is like at a mile high elevation. And people also frequently end up in the hospital with heart palpitations because of the elevation. So

I feel like there is a, a bunch of issues here that all point to putting pressure on an already damaged or weak heart. And the thing is, this is my spectrum. because the family won't really say anything. They say he died of natural causes. Well, I guess that's what that means. But what's odd is I know he was investigating a church, San L'Amorte was this underground, you could say cult, maybe cult is a bit too negative of a word,

but what's the difference between a religion and a cult besides size, really? But this religion that worship San L'Aimorte And that is basically the Mexican Grim Reaper. You know, the... It's the Virgin Mary. It's like the All of the Virgin Mary, La Santa Morte. Yeah. Well, this is different.

So, it's Santa Morte is the female, but this is San Lemaute, which is the male figure, kind of a little lower on the hierarchy, but basically the grim reaper, a skeleton with a sickle and a hood. This is how it's always portrayed. So he's specifically looking into the death spirit. and his very last message to me was on May 6th. Apparently he died May 9th, May 9th of this month, and of course we're still in May. But he was like, oh, I'm investigating this religion and the head of this church said that my presence triggered a prophecy where the spirit said to them, one day a powerful foreigner will come.

And on that day, I will be done with you because he will help me. me spread the word of the church. And that was the last message he ever sent me. And then he, the last post he put on substack was a little figurine that was an idol made of San Lamorte. So his last post is literally a picture of the grim reaper. And his last message to me is the same. And then he dies at 44 years old and nobody will say anything. Now, through our personal conversations, I know that his family did not really respect his work. Let's just say that. So the fact that they're not really jumping to inform the internet or his internet friends is what I'd probably be reduced to of what happened. You know, it's really sad because there's plenty of real friendships that are formed through the internet and a death can be taken just as hard as it would be for a brother.

Like it is really hard. It's hard not knowing those little details are strange. Another one, a weird synchronicity. So when I found out my dad died two years ago in May, also within like a week of Gordon's death to the anniversary, but when I got the call that my dad had passed, I was wearing a shirt that says content not available, just a stupid goofy shirt I bought kind of to make light of the fact that we're always getting canceled and shows removed and stuff. So, you know, the classic content not available. And I just thought it was morbidly funny because my dad had a good morbid sense of humor and it's like, oh, the day you die, I'm wearing a content. not available shirt, like, and you're not available. When I woke up and got the message that Gordon died, I was wearing the same shirt. Whoa. And that's weird.

That's weird to me. I've got like 50 T-shirts. Whoa. Maybe don't wear that shirt anymore, right? Yeah, can we retire that shirt? I'm going to burn it. I'm going to retire it, too. Yeah, it's got to go.

Anytime I text, Greg, what shirt are you wearing right now? Yeah, dude, that is beyond. I'm sorry. I think that was his last post, and it's a little figuring like a Lego of like... Yeah. So this gets even crazier because through the Great Vine, somebody put me in touch with the head of that church in Central America. And I've been talking to her through a translator. And she made that figuring for him.

And she said that Gordon was pretty skilled at communicating with the spirit that she communicates as her basic, basic like spirit liaison. and usually you talk to these spirits through an idol. Like, I've done shows about the ancient Greeks, and the reason they had all these Greek statues is because a lot of time they could be anchors for spirits. Like a spirit could attach to it and then communicate through it. And there's some weird relationship between aesthetics and proportion and the ability for a spirit to attach, like a talisman.

So this was a little miniature talisman that Gordon was supposed to use to communicate. facilitate the communication. And it was apparently working. And I don't know. When I talked to her, she also said natural causes. Now, there's other people in the spiritual community who think that there could have been jealous shamans in the indigenous jungle who didn't like this guy coming around.

He could have had a curse put on them. I mean, I don't know. I don't like to get all Harry Potter with it, but magic is real. So if you think magic is real, these things can't happen. I don't know to what degree, but Gordon, his impact to me was he always, he made magic real and he made conspiracy real in the sense that he always kind of, the anchor to his work, I think, though it was vast, was that the biggest conspiracy there is is perception management to make us feel small and to make us feel like we don't have any power at all. and to make it seem like nature is just trying to kill us, and nature is scarce and competition-based. The reality is nature is actually cooperation-based.

Nature's best model is duplication through repetition, and it's not the bleak reality that is presented with. But to get us to believe that it is, you had to put us in these cities, you had to get us to divest from natural living and live divorced from nature, and then control the perception of it, give us the archetype of the poor farmer,

backbreaking work in the dust bowl, barely scraping by, one crop away from abject poverty and just starvation. It's not really like that. You plant an apple tree today, and in five years, you've got to supply apples for the rest of your fucking life. That's nature.

But that's, we don't do that anymore. Most people have never planted a tree, never planted a fruit tree in their life. Maybe no one in their families planted a fruit tree. It's interesting because that's how we're supposed to live. So Gordon in a lot of ways, I think, his attitude was always that magic is dangerous. Teaching and studying magic is a dangerous act. And it doesn't seem dangerous today because the perception management has been so successful as to consider magic silly.

So they just ignore it now. But all throughout history, one of the most dangerous things you could do is possess some of these grimwars that are on my shelf behind me. some of the grimoires that Gordon did courses on for Roon Soup. This was dangerous stuff. And there was a monopoly on it only within the secret societies and the top, you know, upper echelons. So I think the reason why we had such a bond is and because, you know, I think we all have friendships where like we know I'm clearly the B side of this relationship. This dude's funnier, smarter, always has something more interesting to say. I don't know why he likes me.

I think a lot of us know we have relationships where clearly the A side where people in our lives come to us because we satiate their curiosity and stuff but I think the reason he liked me is just simply because the magic community

is such bootlickers for like the liberal establishment. Johnny doesn't that remind you of the guy from the band that we had on? Remember he was like talking about? Blondie, right? Blondie was talking about. Oh, Gary,

Gary Lockman. Yeah. We liked him. It was a weird interview. He has that false paradigm in his head of politics. Yeah, that is just antiquated. He's from that generation where it's like they're calcified in good guy, bad guy, in the left-right paradigm, right?

Like he's stuck in that. And it's, you know, I see that in comedy as well where it's like this inability to understand that both sides are two wings of the same. same rotten bird, but they just can't because they grew up where the church was evil, conservatives were evil, all that stuff. And the progressives were just trying to fight for equality and love and just to live their life. And then when the left is canceling everybody, they thought that was fine because they were canceling the right and fuck the right and the right's bad people. And I would just be like, dude, they're doing the same things you hated that the right was doing

in the 90s. They're the exact same movie. exact same game plan. How do you not see that? I get called, I get called fascist, Nazi, I got called racist this weekend, I got called anti-Semitic. Most of them were jokes, most of them were jokes, but still, behind every joke, there's some truth. And that was just your mom. Yeah, that was just but, you know, and that was in Austin. I got called those things. So, uh, the, the nuance of it is, is, is they just can't see it. So I think you're totally right. This, this, um, You know, I got hired to do a fat Mike from No FX 50th birthday party. This was like 10 years ago, I'd say. And the things I saw in there were absolutely insanity, dude. And I was like, you know,

I'm a knuckle dragging scumbag. I'll be the first one to admit that, dude. You know, I'm working on my vices every day, like trying to get out of that mindset. And I was shocked at what I saw. And, you know, but they're all from the progressive left. It's all progressive left stuff. It's progressive left bootlicking, like you've said. Yeah. And, you know, Gordon was outside of the political spectrum. But the things I've seen said in the wake of his death,

it is so insane to me. I won't even elevate the names of the people saying it, but other people in the magic community, you know, they'd be like, oh, you know, he did contribute some good things, but he was a COVID-denier. And it's like, that was six fucking years ago. if you're going to reduce all of his work to COVID denier, you are the one with a mental problem.

You are the one still stuck on COVID. Gordon was over COVID. It's just like, and I said something to the guy too. I couldn't help myself, but rage respond to him. And he's like, well, you encouraged people to go to COVID speakease. So that tracks for who kind of guy you are. I go, yeah, you know, keeping people in business. Keeping people in business because I'm not afraid to go out and get a

sandwich, you know, that's not an evil act. In fact, it's a very compassionate act. I put myself in your paradigm. I put myself at risk to keep a mom and pop deli that's been there for 50 years in business so that they didn't end up on the fucking street. But in your paradigm, somehow I did something bad, negative.

It's mental illness. They're goldfish. They only see what's in front of them. They'd have no ability. to look back and go, hey, everything I thought that this thing was did not happen. And on top of that, their algorithm is shielding them from any data, which states that their position is completely and utterly wrong. And there was a guy who would attack me on Twitter about COVID, about how I was a COVID denier and all that shit.

And I would just send them every link I got in my algorithm about all these deaths, all this, this, this. He begged me to stop sending it to us. Please stop. I go, no, dude, you got to see the other side of the discussion. Your algorithm is lying to you right now. It is keeping you comfortable. And it's just like, it's also that this thing that there's these people that are just

feel like they can't compete in society. So they just go just so hard the opposite way. I saw this girl, you know, let's just be kind here. She was alt-attractive, right? She wasn't your typical Yeah, that's just me trying to be nice Because like, who am I? I got bad angles

Who am I to judge anybody? You know, I say that about female comics That aren't your traditional beauties Because they tend to be the funny ones, right? Because they're alt attractive, right? They're not your typical Fucking gorgeous girl that gets everything handed to them So they need to fight for it

And that's why they're so funny Because their experience is so much different To a girl who suddenly realizes How attractive she is, and how easy life is now. So, like, they had to fight for that stuff. So I'm going to say this girl is alt attractive, right? She's attractive in her way.

And I can see how someone could love her, right? But there's a part of me that goes, this woman doesn't think she can compete in the dating pool. So what she's doing is she's going so hard the other way to get the ugliest haircut she can, the ugliest look she can. So she go, I don't even want to date you. And it's just really weird to the people,

that are still holding on the COVID, no matter how much information's out. They just can't. I saw a guy at the airport the other day. He was in the mask and his little like three or four year old boy was in a mask. And to me, that's child abuse. It is. It is. And I can't say anything because that's their life, dude.

But to be stuck in that, I'm still wearing a mask after Fauci basically said it doesn't do anything is absolutely ridiculous to me. Right. And, you know, I'm so, I think we're both so sick of hearing about COVID and talking about COVID. I'm sure the audience is too. But, you know, in the wake of Gordon's death, a lot of people have been talking about the cancellation he went through. And I, you know, as his friend through the whole thing, I didn't think it was a cancellation. I thought it was two assholes that were just like picking apart his COVID commentary and didn't agree with it. But apparently it was more severe than that. But what they did is they went into his private membership community. and took private members content and pulled it out and put it public. And that's not good to do because there's context. You're talking to a specific audience of people who are prepared to hear what you're saying. They've been vetted. They've signed up to hear this. And then you put it out publicly and it sounds a little harsh.

But I think a comic should know that you sometimes say things with poetic license. He was a great, great writer. I mean, goddamn, pull up any of his blogs and you'll probably laugh a dozen times just going through any topic he wrote about. He was so funny to me. And just let's say and a part of being funny is being

sharp as a writer. And so he had said something to the degree of, you know, manage your behavior during COVID. Pay close attention to your own behavior. Because if you go through history, sometimes when people are siding with

the state and the state is doing something wrong, when you come out the side, those are the people who get put up on the fucking wall. And he's not wrong. That's not a wrong statement. I can't agree more, dude. And he was using poetic license. He was basically saying, make sure in this time you act in a way that you can be proud

of on the other side. Don't act out of fear. Don't do things that are anti-human because you're scared. Like, really sit down, take a few deep breaths and make sure you're pro-human and anti-state and we'll all get through this. And it was really a positive message of like just manage yourself because you might be judged on the other side of this chaos. And that's true. And so, you know, of course people who are bootlickers for Fauci and the whole COVID narrative, they look at this like, Gordon said he wanted to shoot people. It's like, you fucking idiot. Do you not

know what poetic license is? Do you not know the context of history? So I just hate that so much of it was that because what I kind of thought, if we're going to talk about him, what I should say is he he took old grimuars and old schools of magic and he re-contextualized them for a modern digital audience like no one on earth. I mean, I wrote this down before we get on here, and I don't know what's going to happen to Roon Soup. But if you are, if you were a member of Roon Soup, he has a Foundations of Magic course, which is already like 10 hours to get you up to date on the foundations. Then he has elemental magic, prayer, time magic, grimwar, saints, angel magic, ancestors in the dead, the Greek magical papy, taro, journeying, UFOs, fairies, and

Sai, wealth magic, the I Ching, the three-body solution, playing card definition, energy healing, protecting and curses, dimensional magic, terrain theory, place magic, road opening, and working the Psalms, and I think there's more. And every one of those is a full academic college level course that's going to take you a week to complete. This is a treasure trove of information that in most other time periods could get you killed. And he, you know, he was a real G. And I just hate to see people in the magic community say, oh, well, you know, he was a COVID denier. So none of that matters.

It's like, go fuck yourself. Do half that work. Do half as good as that. You know, obviously I'm getting all fired up here. but he saw prayer and meditation and a lot of these things as technologies of consciousness. And they're right there available to any of us. Most of us don't engage with them because we're, we just think they probably won't work because that's how we've been conditioned.

Yet we know scrolling in our phone eight hours a day does make us dumber, does hijack our pleasure centers, does make us say ADHD. Screen-induced autism is a thing in children. So, you know, how you spend your time, matters. And that's, I think, the heart of what he was trying to say with that statement during COVID times. And I just like, I don't, like I said, I don't know if this is even going to be available to the internet in 30 days. I hope so, because he did a lot of work. It's his legacy. Roon soup. Roon soup. Like, you know, runes is a type of magic. It's the Nordic thing.

How do you spell it? R-U-N-E. Rune-S-O-U-P. So. You know, it's so interesting. I am not anything special. But there's something I've learned about people, in particular the quote-unquote outlaws. The outlaws hate the establishment. But the only thing the outlaws hate more than the establishment are more outlaws. They really love,

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Now, Peter J. Carroll is the guy who basically started chaos magic, which is the discipline that Gordon would say he was resurrecting, which is basically take what works and discard the rest. Who cares what system it comes from, what culture it comes from? If it works, use it and fold it into your personal religion and your personal magic. So that's another weird synchronicity that his very last post there at the top is a tribute to his magical hero who also died basically the same week. And there's not really much of a conspiracy to Gordon's death, I don't think, but I was on with Miguel Conner of a invite and he brought up the, Miguel is great at thinking in spiritual terms and thinking about the archons and thinking about

how there are forces in the spiritual plane that do affect things here. And he was making this argument that it almost felt to him like the spirits, they know where we are. We're about to be in a big pressure point for World War III and a very tense couple of years. And they're clearing the board of the gurus and the spiritual mystics who had the best advice for these times. Because they don't want us to have that. So is it possible that an archon or some kind of demonic entity leaned on Gordon's heart and it caused him to have a heart attack and it appears as natural causes

because we can only see the effects of the physical. It's possible. It's interesting that Peter J. Carroll also died. Of course, he was far older. But I've heard about another couple of people. Magic really isn't my thing except through Gordon. So I know there's a couple other people

in the magical community. You've also died recently. And I've heard researchers break down this trend that if you go back in time and you look at really tense periods, a lot of mystics and gurus die right before these periods because they don't want these examples out there leading their congregations through tumultuous times in a positive way. I don't know if that's true, but I do find it to be a little interesting. I don't know what the sci-op is with these dead scientists and anti-gravitational stuff.

I don't know exactly what that is. but man if they if they learned anything from COVID it's like you got to get rid of anybody that can explain it to the masses so they don't follow the sci-op of what is coming so you eliminate anybody that can go this is not what is happening and you even had a moment where um what's the black physicist that's famous the pop black physicist um oh neal degross dice right now right so he came out during COVID and was like, you guys got nothing to worry about. It's fucking fine. Two weeks later, a sexual assault allegation comes out. And then, bang, he's right back in line. He's talking about thousand genders. He's doing, he's saying whatever they want him to say. So I think they learned a lot from COVID. Maybe they had forgotten, but they learned a lot from COVID with all these people coming forward, sound the alarm that something doesn't make sense. And may, and maybe with these scientists they did the exact same thing when it comes to this project blue beam UFO thing going on so when you bring up are they trying to get rid of the shamans i believe

that's 100% possible now my question to you is and i'm not trying to get you to say either way is it possible that somebody in this cult was not excited about the thought of their entity leaving them for an outsider Yes. I consider all possibilities. I absolutely don't know what happened or to what degree that stuff was involved. And I hate to reduce Gordon down to here's another guy who got into magic and then got burned or died at a young age because I think he was so skilled and talented at that stuff that I wouldn't want to reduce it. But we all know it's dangerous. I mean, either people think it's bullshit and not true at all. and all superstition or they stay away from it because they think it's dangerous. But I think Gordon's biggest legacy was his sigil magic stuff. And sigil magic, anyone can do without involving any spirits at all. It's really just affecting your own subconscious with an imprint of your own desire.

And I mean, I guess people know what sigils are, I think. But you make a sigil statement of what you want. You know, I might say, oh, I want 10,000. New paid subscribers by the end of the year. Obviously lofty, but whatever you want to say. Yeah, we're shooting for the stars here. And you go through it. There's a process to reduce that down to a symbol.

But then what Gordon added to it is he added the shoal and the robo fish principles where they discovered in the lab that if you made a robotic fish and you put it in with regular fish, they will follow the robot because the robot seems confident. And really, confidence can get a lot of things done. So what Gordon said is he would say Shull is like a school of fish. He would say, show your sigils. Don't make one.

Make five or ten sigils. And make some of them things that will definitely come true. I will have sausage and eggs tomorrow morning. And you make that sigil right alongside I want 10,000 paid subscribers or I want that new job. Interesting. And you do these other ones. I'm going to take a shower tomorrow.

And you make these sigils all together. and you put them out, you know, meditate on them, you consecrate them, you go through his process. And the ones that you know are going to manifest help the other ones find the groove in which they become true and become part of your reality. Whoa, that's interesting. Yes.

Wow. Yes. Now that is magic and that is what the elite hope you never find out. You know, we look at, we as a conspiracy show, we always talk about the elite and the magic they're doing. and it's very dark, but it's also powerful. The thing is, a lot of that magic is available to you and me and everyone listening, but it's never been taught to us. And we've always kind of dismissed it as silly.

Instead of scrolling your fucking phone tonight, research sigil magic and get your life on track. I 100% like, you know, I've said this a thousand times, but, you know, in, in Austin, getting called racist, getting called, you know, anti-Semac. And it's like, hey, dude, I'm not that guy. I don't think these tiny hats are in control. That's just not me. If you ask me who's in control, and I said it a long time ago on Joe Rogan

when he invited me back on, was it's sorcery. The sorcerers are running everything, and you can get in Kabbalah, you can get into Freemasonry, Jesuits, but it all meets in the same place eventually. They're all talking the same thing, and it's old, whether it's Babylonian

or you can go even past that, old sorcery, old magic, manipulation of energy, and this is how they do it. Propaganda is sorcery. Yes. We need good sorcerers, too. We need to make magicians out of everybody if we're going to get through the digital control grid plans they have for us. I know that you're not necessarily a, let me just say, organized religion guy.

I don't know what you're beliefs. are that's your opinion what you're into um you know i i often talk about on this show that i you know there's this whole theory that mysticism that that manifestation is evil and it's dark and it's a trick by the devil i don't necessarily believe that i think it's manipulation of energy in an energy vortex that we live in what do you what is your thoughts on all that well right gordon would say that magic is a probability enhancer. That's all it is, really. You know what another probability enhancer

is? Filling out the application for the job you want. Sending your resume to a company is a probability enhancer that you will maybe get a call. Every action we do is basically just trying to make our lives as, you know,

as good as they can be. So what is making sigils? Why is that automatically evil? It's conveniently evil or projected and framed as evil by people, who want to have power over us. It's conveniently framed as evil by the religious authorities. They would, I mean, go back in time.

They would peel a man's skin off and hang him on a cross and burn him alive because he did magic, because magic is evil. Well, what's that? You know, what is the action you just did? You know, they would pour boiling water on a person

because they had a book. Why? Because the book is powerful. and they want a monopoly on that power. So I think that anyone telling you magic is evil probably doesn't know what it is. And I think a lot of these memes just run on fumes. Catholics think magic is evil. Okay, great.

Well, what does magic mean to you? Is it talking directly to Baphimit or is it making a sigil? Is it meditation? Do you consider meditation magic? Because you can get yourself into the hypnagogic stake between wake and sleep and you can get ideas from ether that might absolutely change your life. Most of the big inventors.

Where'd you get your ideas? Oh, it just came to me in a dream or it came to me. Yeah. Is that evil? You know, where do any of our ideas come from? We don't know. So this categorization is just silliness, but it's usually people who want to have power over you tell you it either.

If they can't tell you it's fake entirely, then they tell you it's evil because that's the next best thing. Sure, it works, but it's also bad. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that wholeheartedly. What they don't know, they demonize. There were a lot of Christian mystics back in the day. You know, if you look at the cathars and a lot of the various sex that we now call Gnostics,

you know, there were no Gnostics, but there's a lot of sex we lump in, which is kind of alt-Christianity. But a lot of them were totally living in peace. They had purification rituals because they thought that if you meditated and you ate clean, and you lived clean and you lived celibate, you could actually attune your higher self better. And it seems to work. There's people, like, if you go to Diana Posulka's

stuff where she was highlighting these guys in NASA that she was working with, one of them said the exact same thing. I can't drink coffee. I don't drink alcohol because I get my ideas from something that the signal gets fuzzy when I consume these things. Well, what is our

whole culture based on? Caffe and an alcohol. Funny how it works out. It's all to keep you feeling powerless and to break up the signal between you and your higher self or the higher realms or whatever's up there. And it's to make your magic broken. But any day we want, we can just switch it on by doing the work and learning about it and starting with meditation and prayer. There's scientific studies that show prayer is real. I'm not even Catholic. I am nothing.

There's no word for what I am. I'm a hodgepodge. I'm a hodgepodge. There's no word for it. I could, you know, explain each individual part, but I'm kind of a, I've never thought of myself, I'm not a magician, but I'm like a chaos religion person. I pull what works. Really, I look at what indigenous cultures outside of manipulated Western society, what the

commonalities are amongst them, and I say that's probably it. People separated by thousands of miles with no communication whatsoever often arrive at similar conclusions. spirits are real. You want to curry favor with the good ones to help protect you from the bad ones. Animals, animism is a legitimate thing, which is basically that all animals, all things are conscious, and spirits can deliver omens and signs through the animals and plants. Like that kind of stuff, isn't it interesting that so many cultures came to those conclusions?

and then the religious Western powers came and killed them all. The first thing they do is kill everybody, make them a new religion, and build them a school to teach them their new history and their new paradigm. That seems to be doing what they're doing to AI, huh? Yeah, the AI thing, I mean, it's going to be a mess. I'm more worried about the ticks in terms of things that are coming, that are happening now. AI I can avoid. The ticks I worry about that I can't avoid.

All the trees on my property are getting cut below the neck. I can't have ticks falling on my head. I'm joking, but I am a little paranoid because they have been trying to make us fear outside to get us to volunteer to come into the cities. Come into the cities. It's going to be good. They want us to volunteer. So they try to tell us that the sun would kill you.

But people realized actually the sun is needed. The sun on your skin and the sun in your eyes without sunglasses has serious physiological effects that are helpful, grounding, forest bathing. These things can cure you from pretty radical transformations from pretty severe autoimmune conditions. So you didn't get me on that one. You know, I'm not afraid of the sun, but I am kind of afraid of these ticks. This alpha-gale syndrome freaks me out.

I like my stakes. And the rates are going through the roof. It's concerned. Did you have A.W. Finnegan on? No. The guy who wrote the Sleeper Agent book. You might look into him. I can hook you up. But he has Lyme disease, and he went down the Lyme disease rabbit hole, and he wrote a book about the story of Dr. Eric Trob, who was a Nazi scientist, who then, you know, when Project Paperclip happened, we got some scientists in the Soviet Union got scientists.

This guy went to the Soviet Union, but then ended up in the U.S. Naval Medical Research Institute of Bethesda, Maryland, and worked on Plum Island in Fort Dietrich. and he's the one who basically created Lyme disease, and he's the one who released it in the Northeast. Because why? He doesn't give a fuck about America. He's a Nazi scientist who was working for the Soviet Union during the Cold War. So you're in the middle of the Cold War, and I don't know what idiot decided to invite a biological warfare expert from the Soviet Union

to run a program here in the States when we're having a... massive conflict with them. But a lot of people think, well, at least A.J. A.W. Finnegan thinks that that was an attack, you know, a covert biological attack to release ticks that had Lyme disease here in the States. And for a long time, the medical community said, lime isn't real. That's just all in your head. Finally, they've admitted it's real.

Funny, Pfizer's working on a Lyme disease vaccine right now. And now they're finally talking about it and look online. These ticks are popping up everywhere. there are boxes of ticks being found in the woods by people. Flame through those things, dude. Literally flame through those things. There's farmers and ranchers going out in the woods and finding these boxes of ticks. And now if you look at the, because there's always a cover story, right?

There's always an answer that, you know, calms the conspiracy down. Well, the answer in this case is, oh, those boxes aren't boxes of ticks dropped from airplanes. Those boxes are designed to be traps for animals to walk through. them and then they get doused with pesticides and the ticks die. It's like okay, that might be a thing. That kind of a box might exist. But you know who knows

the difference? Farmers and people who are out in the woods. Those kind of people know that stuff. And they're looking at this box, the shoebox of ticks, looks like it fell out of an airplane. And they're like that's fucked up. How'd that get here? Yeah. And the question becomes

why do we put up with it? Is it just like they've They've soaked us in so many chemicals that we just have apathy to everything. It's simply that we all have to go to work tomorrow. There is a predator class, and everyone's fighting with the people on their level, and it just blows me the fuck away. So, you know, an interesting thing about Tim Follhat is that we've talked about so many stuff, so much stuff so often.

I don't know how many shows a week you put out. We'll put out two. sometimes even three. You know, the question is, have you heard everything? And does that affect you that you've heard almost all of it? A little bit. Yeah, definitely sometimes I feel like, especially now, the only game in town is the technocracy digital control grid.

Yes, that's happening. Yes, that's being built. It is kind of hard to get excited about things. but what's doing it for me, and I know this is repetitive of the last time I was here, but like, you got to look at what's actionable. What is, because knowledge without action is nothing. It is, might as well not know. So when it comes to who killed JFK, did the shot come from the front seat or the grassy knoll or the sewer below?

It doesn't matter. When it comes to 9-11, I definitely think Dr. Judy Woods got it right, but if it was nanothermite, it doesn't matter. What matters is what you can do. and what you can do is you can re-contextualize the programming that you've been given that nature is not abundant and that you are powerless. Reverse those things. Start doing sigil magic, start meditating, start, as Gordon would say,

affecting the field in positive ways. He believed that everything is energy and everything is an energy field. And you can have outsized impacts on the field by just being, you know, armoring yourself up, doing your meditation, doing your ground. these things like prepare yourself to deal with a crisis better than everyone else so that you can be that port in the storm when everyone in your life is freaking out you can be like hey calm down it's going to be okay there's no eggs at the grocery store luckily i got chickens two years ago i'm drowning in eggs over here you need a you need compost to get your garden started i've got it you know

we can be the stewards of our neighborhoods like we of our communities we can be there when there freaking out about things that they see on the news because they've been traumatized and MK Ultrad and stressed out to no degree. Like, that's our role. You know, we are, if this is like some kind of, you know, Gordon would say you don't get to fight Soron. Like that was a big thing. It was like, first off, who do you think you are that you get to fight the elite?

Like, you're not even on the same level. So you don't get to fight Soron. Sometimes we have this attitude in the conspiracy world that we're going to do this battle with the elite and then we're going to win and then the world's going to be fixed. No, that isn't it. But what you can do is take your corner of the world

and make it better and say, you know, fuck all that. You know, I'm not going to let it get to me. Giving them too much attention makes them too big of an impact in your life. But plant some fruit trees. You know, I hate to reduce it down to something so silly, but you've got kids, I've got kids.

On this land that I have now, when my kids are 18, there will be 40 fruit trees on it. There will be things that yield forever or, you know, for a long, long time. If you wanted to, so here's another rabbit hole, but people bring up Babylon and all the math and the science and all the different things we were given from the gods, right? The Mesopotamian gods taught us how to build civilization. One of the aspects of civilization is agriculture. Agriculture was a trap.

Agriculture gets everybody in one place where the king makes the rules and who has what surplus and what supply. And they taught people to grow annual crops, you know, things that die every year. You grow them, you harvest them, they're gone. What they didn't teach them is to plant fruit trees and passion fruit vines that yield like 3,000 pounds of fruit over the course of their lifetime. you can plant things that generate abundance and yield every year. You don't have to do monocrop agriculture soaked in poison where you harvest it. Then if you had a bad harvest the next year, everyone dies. You know, you don't have to do that.

They did that as a trap as a mechanism to control huge swaths of people in a hierarchical system with a priest king on top. That is what their gods taught them how to do. And they've done it to us ever since Babylon. So if you want to reverse that, look at things that grow in your area. It's very easy to find what zone you live in. Go online. There'll be food forest people on YouTube in your zone and look for things that thrive on neglect is the term people use.

You don't even have to maintain the shit. It thrives on neglect. Find the top five things in your area to grow. Most of them will be way more nutrient dense than anything you'll get at a grocery store and free. And they regenerate over and over and over again. and you can cut off branches and replant them and give that to your friends. We have these crazy huge mulberry bushes.

They yield so much fruit. And I've cut off probably 50 branches and you just replant them. That's what abundance is. You don't need the seed. You just take the branch? You just take a branch and you can propagate it. Yes. My four-year-old daughter propagates stuff now.

She thinks it's just fun for her. She doesn't watch television. she propagates twigs. This is the way. You know, this is the way. It doesn't matter what they're doing out there. They can only control you if you're dependent on their systems. We've all heard the phrase you can't bite the hand that feeds.

We'll stop taking your food from the hand you want to criticize. Like, there's a lot of grumbling and rumbling. But if you're suckling at that teat, you're going to get everything they want to give you, the digital ID, the digital currency, and you're going to wait to the very last minute, and you're going to have to opt in because you haven't. armored yourself up and secured your own freedom to be able to say no. That's what it's going to be about. It might be next year.

It might be 10 years down the road, but that is where we will end up. So my question to you is, I got two questions for you. When was the last time you were, let's say, shocked or mind blown by something you learned? Well, ties into what we're talking about. probably so Dr. Heather Lynn, I know you've had her on as well. I love her. She is great. So my last interview with her, she framed the secret societies as the brotherhoods of sacred math. And I thought that was so great because she's basically talking about the spirit communication they had. Like I said, they were given these equations, but part of the equation is how to control massive amounts of people by creating bottlenecks and extracting value.

and then they take this template and apply it to all kinds of things. Taxes, food supplies. They're the middleman who takes the excess. She goes deep into entropy. So this is one component of it. The other side of it is Bob Grenier, who is a fusion researcher. If people remember, Pons and Fleissman, they were two scientists who said they cracked cold fusion in the 90s.

They had a huge press conference. It was a big thing. and then of course the whole system shit on them said you did not crack free energy you're just quacks one guy died and the other guy retired and never to be seen again that's how it works many people have cracked free energy over the years and this is what happens but bob grenier gave a presentation and i have a i have a screenshot of it but he in his presentation he said you know my dad and my grandfather were both freemasons he's like i'm not i'm just a free energy researcher. When I was a kid, my dad woke me out of bed and told me to come outside and he said,

look at that part of the sky and a UFO flew over and then he put me back in bed. He said, another thing that happened is when his grandfather or father, I can't recall, when they died, he got all their Freemasonic regalia. So he has all these metals, these very complex geometric metals. You know, we've seen Freemasonic stuff, the Florida Lee symbol, the Jerusalem cross, the double-headed eagle. He's got all these metals. And he looked at these metals for the 33rd degree and the 32nd degree level of freemasonry. And he said, oh, my God, the exact patterns I see in the lab on my free energy work are these patterns on these metals. And it's like, yes, they've always known.

They've always known nature is abundant. Energy is everywhere. And the only way they can rule us is to make us believe that it's not true. Scarcy. They have to make us, then everything is scarce. and it's not. It's not. Look at the history of people

who have cracked free energy. Look at the guy who found how to make engines run on water. Another guy, I know he got engines to run 200 miles to the gallon. He could convert any engine

to run 200 miles of the gallon. Somebody broke into his shop, trashed everything, and destroyed his work, and you never hear from him again. This happens. Dozens and dozens of people have gone down this way.

Because nature is abundant, because we are God. This is a playground to experience reality. And it's not, it is the Garden of Eden. It is here. We've concreted over it. We've asphalted over it, but it is here. And the thing about nature is, no matter how much concrete and asphalt you pour on it,

it'll reemerge. It'll take time, but nature has time. And it will, it will rise up again. And so all it needs is for us to kick over the first few dominoes, plant the trees. learn about the things that grow in your area. Get out of the fucking HOA that won't let you grow anything but pointless grass. This is another control mechanism.

You got to get control of some land. They've taken it all from us. Go to the outskirts of town. Get yourself an acre. You don't have to have a house on it either. Go to places where the land is cheap. That's maybe 20 minutes from your home. There's got to be a place.

Get an acre. And instead of going to the grocery store, go out to this acre on the weekend. plant your fruit trees when they start to get bigger propagate more for free get some chickens that run around out there get a dozen chickens that run around on this land

get a solar panel door that locks at night they will go in to their own coop at night you don't have to be there and you'll go there every day and chickens lay about an egg a day by the end of the week you'll have 200 eggs for free I mean it is crazy

how easy this stuff is and they've robbed us of all of it. It's got me motivated and jazzed up because Gordon not only taught me about magic, but then he also became the head of like a permaculture group in Tasmania. And I was like, why is this, why is my wizard friend all worried about permaculture? This is pretty lame. This is not fun. Well, now I don't think it's lame. Now I think it is like, that is the magic. The magic is in nature. The magic is in grounding and meditation and prayer. We don't do any of this stuff. We just scroll on the fucking phones. You know, so the last thing that really blew my mind to actually answer your question was that Bob Grenier showed exactly that these symbols that are, that lead to free energy, the patterns that lead to free energy, the frequencies are embedded in the regalia of the Freemasons because they always fucking knew from Babylon they've known.

Are freemasons bad? Are some bad? I think every organization has good and bad people in it, every single one. It has to by the nature of any organization and the people that join it. I think there's a filtration mechanism where only the worst people get to the top, of course, and it's a drinking club for the rest of them. But the point is if you want to get, if you're mad at them for what they've crafted around you, the best thing you can do is just engage with nature and start the abundance engine where you are

and armor yourself up spiritually and mentally and practice magic in a safe way. is safe to you. But sigils and prayer and manifestation and messing with the hypnagogic state, that's all very basic shit that does not involve spirits as far as we know. There might be something going on there. But you don't have to summon Bofemit with a Ouija board to do magic. And remote viewing. They don't want us to know remote viewing is real because it's a threat to national security because you can't guard any secrets if people know you can remote view anything anywhere, but you can. With a little bit of training, you can. Two weeks training, you could probably remote view most things that you want to see. That's the, the secret is how easy it is,

and how much work has been done to suppress it all. If you want to win. Do you think there's risk to that remote viewing? You know, I have heard that there is. I have heard some stories of people remote viewing and then they get caught doing it and that other remote viewers that work for the bad guys catch them and see them and then like they have problems. But you don't have to remote view area 51. You know, you can do a lot of other stuff. Really, I think that you should level up your own game to create abundance in your life in one way or another, whether it's money or resources or compost, because people are going to need you. And, you know, the same people in our lives, if we have the strength to do it, the same people in our lives that think we're the crazy conspiracy people,

in 10 years down the road, they might be asking you, hey, how do you take care of chickens? How do you make compost? Please help me. Because the writing's on the wall. Do you have chickens? Oh, yeah. Are you happy in Florida, dude?

I miss all my friends in California. I miss so much about it. But in terms of what's best for my family, yeah, I fell on the sword. I have no social male camaraderie out here. and that sucks. Well, it's just my wife. We don't know anybody.

Me and my wife and my kids, you know, that's all I got. And the internet. So my closest friend that I, you know, really vibe with the best is dead. My dad is dead. My mom's 82 years old. She's going to need to be taken care of soon. But what I'm figuring out is that, you know, when I moved here two years ago, I didn't know anything. And now I grow.

The top five things I grow are. are super nutrient dense that you cannot buy in a grocery store. Most people have never heard of Jabba. It is a Brazilian grape that grows on the actual trunk packed with vitamin C. Most people, you can't access a Barbados cherry anywhere. I don't know that you can buy a Barbados cherry in any grocery store, but it has more vitamin C than two oranges, and we grow that. The mulberries that we grow, the reason why you don't buy mulberries in a store

is because they don't last long enough to get them to market. They'll mold, but you eat them right off the tree and they're fine. They also have three times the vitamin C of a blackberry or a blueberry. So the most nutrient-dense stuff that exists, you cannot buy in a grocery store,

but you can grow for free. You just need land, and they've worked really hard to make sure that it's hard for many of us to have land. So over all the years, what's your favorite conspiracy? If you love talking about it.

It's just, you know, there's certain things for me. I love to, hidden history viruses. I love talking about. What was your take? Well, I mean, we're talking about it. I think right now the thing that charges me up is just knowing that the biggest conspiracy is perception management that we have zero power. Materialism is the only name of the game.

You cannot affect reality. And nature is scarce. You know, this shows like alone and naked and afraid. They show us those to scare you because, yes, you plop any person down in nature with zero resources and you might be dead in three days. But that's not how it actually works. You can cultivate the land. And, you know, the biggest problem is that our grandparents didn't do this for us. Like, the way a family should work is that there is a big plot of land that you hand down to the next generation that has the abundance engine running on it.

And, you know, we could do that many times over. So I do get, I mean, you can kind of hear, I get passionate about this now, and I used to think it was quite boring. But going back to the secret societies and all this stuff, all the way back to Babylon, the name of the game has always been, we can only be the kings if people think, if we scare people into thinking they need us. We don't need them. You know, Native Americans, when you look at the stories of the early, the early settlers here, you look at their stories, they said, There were so many trees that a squirrel could go from the Mississippi River to the east coast without touching the ground. They would take their horses and they would try to cross the Hudson River and their horses were stomping on fish because there were so many fish in the river that they couldn't even cross without killing a bunch of fish. Because the name of the game for the elite is depletion.

They want to deplete everything and poison everything so that you can't regenerate it. I mean, obviously, I mean, I think you always can because nature's a tough bitch. But they've done everything they can to poison the land and try to, because first they convince you it's not possible. And then while you're in that state, they poison everything and trash everything so that it's really hard to get it moving again, but you still can do it. Any soil can be revitalized. Any dead soil can be revitalized really easy by just putting any organic matter on it. Throw your chicken or throw your kitchen scraps out. The chickens will eat it and what the chickens don't eat will go into the ground and then

you plant things in that and it grows. It's really super simple, but we aren't taught any of it. And that's intentional. They want us on that titty. Get off the titty. Get off to titty. What a great way to end the show. Get off the fucking titty.

Well, Greg, you are one of the best to do it. You're a great guy. Sorry for your loss. Sorry for your dad. Sorry for Greg. I mean, for white, I'm sorry about all. Yeah, Gordon. It is very tragic when we, the older we get, the more heroes we lose.

Yes, I'm learning that. And it just sucks, dude. It sucks. When you're young, your grandparent passes away. It's like the shocking thing that there's an end to the story. And then as you get to a certain age, you start losing so many people. And, you know, you've been in the game for a while. You've been proven right time and time again.

So I hope that you are enjoying your life, buddy. You deserve it. You've done a great service to everybody. And, you know, I've gotten to this place where it's like, oh, don't worry about the sleeping sheep. Don't wake up the sleeping lions. I'm like, I'm not even worried about the lions, dude. At this point, if you can't see what's going on and want to figure a way to get outside the system. And, like, you know, my story is crazy.

I get hit up by everybody. Their life is out of control. And, you know, and it's just like, dude, I got kicked out of Hollywood very early and created a system. And Dana is a big part of that. And we create a system that's outside of the system. So when COVID hit, we were thriving. We didn't miss a fucking beat. And you've done that as well.

So congratulations on that. One more time, Greg, please tell them where they can find you. The Hiresidechats.com. And I could use a little boost on the YouTube channel. watch a few shows there. Maybe you can get me out of the Tombstone algorithm perhaps. I know it's daunting, but the website's where I like people to go

and anywhere you get your podcast. I mean, the thing about the website is I have it set up as like a Netflix style display where I actually have categories, so it's not just one big RSS list. You can actually find quite a few things. There's a magical toolbox set of shows there. There is a solutions-based set

of shows. So you can get to the positive stuff because, yes, it's interesting to know what happened at Sandy Hook and this and that. But, you know, siops are going to sigh up. And it really is just another distraction to keep you from actually improving your life and rebuilding the world. That's what we ought to do. And next time you come to Tampa, dude, I'll show you around this place.

And, you know, you'll see I'm cooking with gas out here, as you said. I would love that. I'm going to be out there for a festival soon. So I'd love to see you, buddy. You are the man. I always don't hang up. But thank you for coming on. I hope you guys enjoyed this.

you know, rest in peace, Gordon White, and let's break down the episode. So what did you guys think of Greg Carwood? Man, I felt for him. You can feel he was sad. His home. He passed away, you know? Yeah, yeah. That sucks, man.

It's the worst. Like, I mean, do you have like a backup in case they take you out? No backup? And it's like, you need a will. I'm like, I'm going to live forever. Johnny, what are we going to do? We're calling his brother, Ann. His shredded brother.

My shredded brother who doesn't believe in conspiracy? That's right. That'll be a great conspiracy show. I don't know. I don't want to hear this. We're going to have a big talk with him before. We're going to be like, okay, you're going to play a character called Sam Tripoli. Just put these glasses on and wear this Raiders hat.

Wear this fat suit. And I'll give you a script. We'll just prompt him on the screen there. Just move your mouth and we're going to AI you. We're just going to put his face in his shadow. You know, the brim of your hats is going to come out so far that you can't quite see his face. Because he looks like you a little bit. And then we'll tell him.

And then we'll convince. He's the genetically superior version of me. You think we can convince people that you're back on like the mask? Because we're going to, he's got to wear a mask. We have to tell them like, hey, Sam's so concerned about his face. He's, he's now. Yeah, he's now wearing a fucking pussy ride hat. Terrain theory out the door.

I was wrong about viruses. It's wrong. I'm right. They're killing people. I'm glad I survived anyways. Why Sam's hands bigger? Anyway, don't worry about it. Sam, you're great at bowling all of a sudden.

It's amazing. Why is that, dude? How come you don't even look at your children? It's very weird. You don't hug them at all. Tell them you love them. It's very fucking weird. All your boyfriends have noted the increase in your dick.

It's amazing. Whoa. John just called my brother gay. Oh, boy. He disappeared. That was a breakdown of Greg Carlin episode. Greg is great. You know, obviously losing Gordon White is very hard.

You know, Brody was probably the closest of losing a friend that I had. It was in your life and then he's gone. God, he was funny. And it's really hard. I remember when I found out I came home, I cried. Dana's like, I've never seen you cry before. Dude, you booked it. You left Pollyanna behind.

Oh, Polly. Yeah. And I was there. And then the producer was like, did he just leave without his dog? And then you went, handled your shit. And then, I mean, obviously we hung out. And it was like, I mean, you guys can go watch the episode. It was, we were literally live on a show.

It was super sad, dude. Super sad, dude. It's hard to lose a friend. You know, I didn't want to bring up the thing with Greg, because there was that, that woman that was also dabbling in dark magic that passed. And like, Greg somehow got caught up in it. I don't know. I don't know. It's like Liz Cronkitt or something like that. I don't know what her name is. I forget what her name is.

Will you look up Great Carlewood, Liz, and see what comes up? But, you know, he had that situation, and she was dabbling in really dark magic, dude. She's like trying to summon spirits. Is that the name, Liz? Yeah, I think so. I don't see anything with that. Nothing? No, Liz, in fact, let me see if I can force it to.

it's something about like Elizabeth Liz Merritt is that someone No no no Greg Carwood Liz Die Was there the only name I can't remember the name Elizabeth possibly

Maybe Is there another thing I can search Look up Greg Carlwood A woman And Ouija board Okay See if you look up that

Exorcist discusses Possession and Ouija board history Greg Carlin Hersette Chats The cult rejects came up That's the first result. No, I don't.

Okay, it's fine. But the point is this woman was very well known, and she was, like, talking about the whole. She died? Yeah, mysteriously. And it was a big thing. Jesse Reed is that? No, no, no.

Jesser Reed, I miss Jesser Reed. We got to get her back on. Jesser Reed's the one who did, like, drank her own pee when she was tweaking. Oh, yes, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never heard. We've had a couple people talk about drinking piss on the show.

That was unforgettable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny, nothing. It's been almost deleted from me in and I've tried every imaginable. Hey,

Johnny, you know how he said, you can just buy an acre and kind of just let stuff kind of grow? Is that like doable? Like you get like, where you said get an automatic, uh, coupet and stuff?

I mean, like he said, you got a, that's what. Liz Cronkit. That's who it is, I think. Crockett or Cronkite?

I think it is her. I don't know if she's still alive. Cronkin? Hold on. Croken? Hold on, Johnny. We shut the fuck up. There's someone called Liz Croken, who is alive, apparently.

He's an American columnist and conspiracy theorist, according to Wikipedia. Yeah, yeah, that's not her. She's still alive. Sorry to Liz Crockett. I'm trying to figure out. I don't know who what her name is. I'm sure we're going to get yelled at in the comment section. He's like, it's fucking this bitch.

But, yeah, man. Gordon White was a good dude. he's been on a show. Very smart guy. Very smart guy. Very interesting person. And it sucks when you lose people like that. Really, I mean, like as you get older, the more people who lose. Listen, weird transition, but if you go to samtribly.com, tonight, tonight, I'm going to be at, uh, tonight and tomorrow, I'm in La Jolla at the world famous comedy store celebrating the 50th anniversary of the comedy store. Elbuquerque, New Mexico, 1,000th episode of Tim Fall Hat in Austin, June 18th, then Miami, then joke world in St. Petersburg for the Joke World Comedy Festival,

then Lawrence, Kansas, Tulsa, Oklahoma, and then, oh, November 7th, I'm going to get those dates up to. I'm going to be at Truth or Khan in Dallas, and then Skank Fest for New Orleans, and then rounding out at the mothership. So busy, busy, busy. Go to samtribly.com.

All these premium content with my amazing thumbnails, trying to put up three a week, two, three a week. So you get more bang for your buck. Really deep, deep dives. I decide I'm going to watch some of Gordon White stuff on there, you know, just to break it down and learn together with my listeners and fans.

Cash that he's talk about, Johnny. Yeah, it's a podcast that we host. We just did our worst episode ever. congratulations to us, where we discuss retirement, finance, investing, and preparing for your future and an economy that hates us. He doesn't know how to work. He does not know how to work a computer. He does not know how to work computer, but he is fucking amazing.

And we love how he do. Yeah, and he this week gave a big tip on how to get into the SpaceX. I could have gotten in that early. I should have done it. I should have done it. And I didn't. and I'm a stupid person. Don't off yourself. It's all right.

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So check that out. Back to mysticism. Is it Tracy Twyman? Yes, that's it. Tracy Twyman. and thank you, Johnny. Yes, she's an American author and researcher, best known for writings on the occult,

on occult symbolism, secret societies, and alternative interpretations of history. Yeah, I mean, you start dabbling in that shit. It gets bad fast. Oh, shit. She had a video right before she died. Yeah, it gets very, very crazy. Mysticism, your guys' thoughts, Johnny, as a Christian,

what do you think? yeah, yeah, I'm careful with it. I don't, you know. I mean, anything where you don't know the rules with the game where you don't know the rules, that worries me. Do you know what I mean? Like, what are the rules to that?

Whose rules are you believing? Right? Like, because there are some people who tell you that anything you get is going to cost you something. I do I totally buy into what he's saying about like what was he saying like it's an opportunity multiplier or whatever like where you apply you gotta apply yourself apply to the job you know be positive mentally like those things are benign and possibly beneficial so but anything where you're getting into magic and the occult and all makes you nervous yeah yeah again dude I was I'm on this Sam Tripoli-T-U-S-A thread. I mean, these guys are going deep, dude.

What do they think about this? Well, they go deep, like, into basically the manipulation of Judaism, the manipulation of Christianity, who founded Islam, you know, like all this shit. And all of it.

And, you know, and again, it gets into, like, dark arts and, you know, and child sacrifice. and all that shit, and it's like really crazy. The best guy I listen to is everywhere now is West Huff on, if you want to go back on the early Christian texts, nobody knows that shit better than him.

Do you like him? Yeah, I do. He knows all the, I mean, he speaks and can read all, not, not, I'm sure he doesn't speak all them, but he can read the original scripts, you know? Like, he knows, and he's an expert in handling the old manuscripts and stuff. And I think it takes someone like that to, to kind of separate the bullshit from the from the real shit so anyway I like that guy

what your thoughts I miss is I mean it sounds weird because I mean praying is trying to like kind of like making shit happen and it happens yeah when you do it happens when you pray for something and you I mean you can't just pray for something and not actually try to do the act of doing it so I guess it's part of praying and actually manifestation and actually go on and do it like you can't just pray to get a job and sit at your house and you're going to get a job it's also praying and then going to go and doing the action. Chattie, do you pray? I do.

Every morning and night. Do you get on your knees? I mean, you know, the Bible even says that, you know, the famous faith, faith, the size of a mustard seed, is enough to move a mountain if you have genuine faith. And I just think genuine faith, genuine belief is incredibly uncommon. I wish I would ask Greg what he thought were Jesus's role in the whole thing is. Yeah. So like, you know. Even I asked this very deep thread.

Was Jesus, what's your thoughts on Jesus? Was he real? Yes. So even they are like Jesus was real. So you know how you brought up that Santa Marta thing? Some of my homies actually practiced that. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

And one of them, one of the rules is for one of the big guys that. practices is when he's on tour that candle can't go out he'll send some of his like his homies is like his workers to go and keep that thing lit they have to give it it's it's rum it's got this certain thing it doesn't look evil like i'm saying it's rum you have to give it rum it likes to drink rum that's what it's yeah i know it's it's liquor of choice you're getting demon shit faced or or entities yeah and you give it rum and you got to keep it keep it's like a chiel it yeah and it does and it doesn't look evil because you would assume it's evil so i don't know if it's good magic it's still magic or whatever it is but it's still creepy because you have to keep a thing

and i'm like well what if it turns off do you does your magic go away like what happens if that candle for some reason the big gust of wind comes up and and blows it out like what happens to you they got relighted that's why they're there that's just weird to know like that no it is weird and like listen i i i i said this a lot to myself when i talk to myself my brother's like what are you doing right now i go nothing he goes are you talking to yourself i'm like Yeah, I'm your brother. You don't know that yet? I talk to myself more and I talk to anybody. I talk to myself more and I talk to Dana. She's so pissed.

You talk to yourself more and you talk to me. That's great. You know, but I was thinking about this thing about how like, you know, it's that energy, Johnny that we always talk about, right? It's like Elvis energy you call Hitler energy. And either you got it or you don't. You got it or you don't. And if you don't got it, there's nothing you can do to get it except for one thing, and that's sell your soul.

Literally. And there's a comic out there. I'm not going to say the name, but like went to supernova out of nowhere. And it's like, that's kind of crazy. It's probably not who you think it is either, Johnny. No, I'm not trying to. I'm just thinking of, because, I mean, there are guys. You've seen their early clips, like in open mics and stuff, and you would think they were going nowhere.

that became just monster killers. Yeah, but, oh, like Theo Vaugh and Sebastian Ascalco, both like when you watch them at first, you're like, there's nothing there. And then they just exploded. I'm not saying it's not them. But you would say now that they certainly have that it thing, right? Well, I think they always had it. It's just it took time to manifest. You know, it's like, why is Sebastian Ascalco as big as he is?

Well, he's a great comic. He's a great writer, right? but there's a lot of great comics and there's a lot of great writers who nobody's ever heard of and will never hear of because they just don't have that energy but Sebastian looks like John Gotti. Yeah. Like he's the most plug and play motherfucker you'll ever see. And I'm not saying that in a bad way. God bless him, dude.

You know, the notion that if I did everything that Sebastian did, I would be where Sebastian is. Not true at all. Sebastian has that energy. he fills that niche. He's great. He's an awesome comic. And he fills the niche for an Italian celebrity that America hasn't had for a very long time. America has always had an Italian celebrity, whether it's Frank Sinatra, Joe DiMaggio,

Sylvester Stallone. And they didn't have that for a while. And now they got Sebastian. You know? He does it great. Yeah, he's killing it. God bless him. Good for him.

He won in life. I love him. So anyways. Yeah. But this guy, like, his energy is completely different. Like, I knew Sebastian at the beginning, same guy. Just more of himself now. Nicer clothes.

You know, nicer cars. You know, in your backyard, you could have a couple of chickens. Not there, dude. It's maybe chickens. Dude, I've been seeing coyotes. There's a guy around the corner from my house that has, like, four goats. and a whole cup of chickens in a yard the size of yours. I want a bigger.

I'm going to talk to Dana, being like, we got by land. That's what we finally have a big yard now, the place we're going to. Johnny's going to come in and overalls now. You can sell those eggs. The cowboy has.

Hey, y'all, just a farmer Johnny. Whole family of bears across the street. A what? Yeah, a couple days ago. We're just right up here in Topanga. A bear? Bears.

Dude, I've been seeing coyotes all over the valley lately. Oh, dude, two of them followed me home from the grocery store. night or two nights ago. They were like, we can eat that ass. No, they don't really want to mess with people. They're just, I think some idiots feed them. Yeah, 100%.

They're looking for food. All right. These stupid ladies. I just want to say, you know, with respect to what you always talk about with Hollywood, we had that huge horror movie I was talking about, obsession that was done by quite a young guy in his 20s that just did TikToks and shit. And now it sounds like this backroom's movie, 20-year-old director.

dude. No. Yeah. And they're saying it might be the first $100 million movie from a 20-year-old director. Isn't that crazy? When does it come out? Soon, I think at the end of this month, something like that. So it could be finally what you were saying, you know, where they finally just go outside the system? That merit take over again or for the first time. You're always going to have rich kids being fucking shoehorned in. It's always going to happen. But maybe better rich kids. But you can't, you can't control the spout, right? Like, or the bottleneck.

You got to open it up. If you want to make money. You got to get back to a meritocracy. And reach people. You got to. You can't, like, and again, it's not the money that they're upset about losing. It's what the money means. It's the reach.

Yeah, people, money box office means. Right, Johnny, if a movie does well, that means a lot of people went watched it. Exactly. That's what they're worried about. No, they can't program you. Box office is a proxy for attention. Yes, Johnny. Yes, yes, Johnny.

All right, guys, enjoy the highlights. Here's a clip from the latest Broken Sim. He has a special dropping next week. It's called Short Notice, my good friend, Jason Ellis. There he is. Jason Ellis, bar, bar, bar, bah, bah, bah. On the road, too, dude, gigging. Never stop crying.

Yeah, I'm just copying you, dude, trying to get there. try to i don't even know where there is to be honest with you uh good if i get there i'll let you know i'll let you know where are you right now i'm in shallow oh dude johnny's old stomping grounds nice is it drop yeah yes drop wooded anywhere you want you'll get 10% off yeah i like it here yeah it's all right man it's all right it's uh it's uh they're trying to get they're trying to get things sorted out there. What does that mean, Johnny? Well, I mean, it's a liberal city and a state that's more conservative. And so there's that tension. And, you know, I didn't see any gaze. I was on the street all day. Yeah, not as much of that. It's definitely not like L.A. in that way.

So, Jason, real quick, before we get into anything, your special short notice, what, what day does it drop? And where can they find it? So I already did it. And then my skateboard sponsor, one to sponsor it and then they want me to release it on rumble so now after just like accidentally doing a show short notice and then accidentally somebody who had a really good camera and then accidentally i called my friend sam dribbling was like you should just make that a special and i was like i could do that and then my skateboard sponsor was like well we want to be a part of it and i was like yeah man that's cool i'm not in a hurry i just had it so So it's no big deal.

And now they're like, we're networking on an intro. And I'm, I don't think they realize that there's going to come a point where they're going to go. So here's the idea. And I'm going to go, yeah, I don't really, I'm not going to do that, you know. It's my art, dude. Let me do my art. It's already got weird because skateboarding. Because Sam, there's this thing where skateboarders, like a lot of people are just like, yeah,

I know you told a funny story one time about, you know, when you're a skateboarder. I'm like, no, this is, I'm really, this is what I do. I don't really skateboard. I try to do comedy all the time. And skateboarders don't understand that it's weird. They don't understand that that could be your whole life like it is when you're a skateboarder. Yeah, I get that. And it's also like trying to bring your demographic, your people to comedy.

Some people can do it. Some people can. I know guys who have huge shows. And they can't get anyone to come see their art show. So that is a hard thing. You know, the Tim, the conspiracy, wherever I go do stand up, every conspiracy theorist in that town shows up. And it's usually about 100 people, you know.

That's pretty good. I'll take that. Man, maybe I should talk about conspiracies more. Get into it, dude. Get into it. So you move to Utah. Are you enjoying it? Yeah, I love it, man.

Yeah. And I don't even have my own horse yet. Once I have my own horse, going into the mountains. I'm going to camp out there with my horse and I'm going to hunt with a compound bow. And then I'm going to have like coyote fur stuff and like hunt and live in the mountains and stuff and bring back meat to the wife and then like bono and stuff by the fire. I love it, dude. You're a little primal caveman. That's it.

That's it. Very Taylor-shared and lifestyle. If you come over, I could like maybe barter some potatoes for like a sweatshirt or something. I love that, dude. That's the best life. That's the best altogether. So you were in L.A. And now you're back, you're on the road.

Do you miss L.A. at all? I missed, like, a couple of friends. I miss being out of, it's weird. I miss my kids, but I talk to my kids on the phone. And when I was in L.A., they're at this age where, hey, do you want to have a coffee? They're like, I'd love to, Dad, but I'm studying. Or I love to Dad, but I'm at work. Or I'm actually out with my friends at a car show.

And I'm just like, well, everything you keep saying. is way cooler than having coffee with me. So you should probably just go. You know, I get that. That's why I don't go on the road. Like, who was just, oh, Big Jay last night was like every weekend he's on the road. And I'm like, that sounds great. But also, my kids are at that age where they're fun.

So I'm just going to enjoy them until they call me dicks. Yeah, because there'll be a day where they're like, maybe not even, like, I think my kids love me. They're just like, I'd love to, Dad, but you kind of suck. like to hang out with you're pretty gay I mean like you just sort of like hang out and talk about like how are you like I don't want to hear about how am I

I just want to know like what's lit or like who sucks or like I'm not a part of it dude I cannot be a part of it well I I am not good at showing affection Dana still fights that war after 23 years she still gets mad at me when I don't show affection

I'm like, I show affection by paying everything. That's how I show fucking. I literally, I was in a therapy session with the baby's mama back in the day when I was trying to make it work. And the therapist is like, that's how he shows affection. He pays for everything. That's how he, outside of that, I am emotionally bankrupt. I'm not, I'm not going to cry. I'm not going to.

You look like you're a little bit more affectionate than I am. I see you taking pictures and like I'm never that guy. I'm just not. I'm just a caveman knuckle dragger. Yeah, it must be the gay in me or something, but I like, I tell my kids I love him and stuff.

Well, I tell my kids I love them. That's because I like, you got to. You always hear my dad never told me he loved me. I'm like, okay, I remember.

Yeah, well then fucking whatever. It's not that big. I don't know what I don't go. I mean, I don't want to embarrass my son like he's 17. So it's just like, what's all? You know what I mean?

Like, if I text him, I love you, dude. He's like, love your dad. But, you know, you don't want him to do get over, over excited about it in public around his homies. That's not cool. Oh, I can't wait to embarrass my daughters. Okay. Yeah, that happened too.

But now that, now she's like really doing well. So I really can't help it. It's not even there anymore. Every time I see her, I just go, wow. You know? Like you're just amazing and you're doing all this amazing stuff. And I'm like, I don't know, are you sure your mind? You know, because you're just.

Yeah. People I've learned about kids. If you keep them away from trauma, they're on their path in life. That's your job is to keep them away from trauma. Get them to their 18 years old when they become themselves very early. Like I was telling my, I was trying to do a joke, but people take it too serious. but it makes me laugh. Like one day I took away my daughter's iPad,

and she's like, she's only like five or six at the time. She's six now, but it was, I think she was five at the time. And she's, I took her pat, she goes, you son of a bitch. Yeah, that was my reaction. I'm like, you're lucky that's the cutest thing I've ever seen in my fucking life. Any other time in history, you get thrown across the room, but you are too cute. Oh, my dad chucked me, man. One time I did, just grab me and threw me across the room.

The real. You can't hit them. They're too cute. Oh, wow. Yeah, I agree. You can't hit your kids, Sam. I know I'm making a very political statement here. Right. If you'd like to hear the rest of this episode, subscribe to Broken Simulation in your podcasting app or check us out at YouTube.com slash Sam Tripoli. Knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron.

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