Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - Tin Foil Hat #45: Samaritans with Director Jonathan Lynn

Episode Date: October 10, 2017

Thank you for tuning into another episode of Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli! This episode Ryan and Sam welcome writer and director, Jonathan Lynn. On this episode we discuss.... 1) Lynn's new book Samaritans available on Amazon 2) My Cousin Vinny, Clue and Yes Minister 3) The US Health Care System 4) Donald Trump 5) Marissa Tomei 6) We read your 5 Star reviews Please check us out all over the internet 1) Twitter.com/TinFoilHatCast 2) Instagram.com/TinFoilHatpod 3)AllComedyTshirts.com 4)Patreon.com/TinFoilHat 5)Paypal.com at [e-mail]

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We got some technical dicketies. Aaron, how do you think the podcast is going so far? Best podcast ever? It says, Boom, are we back? Okay, we are proud to have our guest on for this episode. He's directed such movie classes as, my cousin Vinny, Clue, Nunn's on the Run. He's written some amazing shows.

If you get our British listeners, our European listeners will know him from yes, minister and yes, prime minister. And he has a brand new book out called the Samaritans. Please welcome. Jonathan Lynn, everybody. Welcome to the show, sir. Welcome to the show. Thank you very much indeed.

Super huge fan of all your work and the range of work. I feel like it's almost like you're an old school director, and I mean that with all love in that your projects range. There's not just one style. We see a lot now with a lot of directors and writer. They get a niche and they just mind that niche where you seem to go from my cousin Vinny to, you know, yes, prime, yes, minister, yes, prime minister. That seems to be a nice spectrum of entertainment.

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And they run into a convent and discover if they put on nuns' habits people will think they're women. And after that I was off at every drag movie in Hollywood. You know, they, of course I said no to all of them because I felt they'd done that. Yeah. But they, whatever it is you've just done, if it went well, well, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they want they, and they want they want they want they want they're, and they want they're, and they, and they, and they they're, and they, and they, and they, and they want, and they want, and they want, and they want, and they want, and they want, and they want, and they want, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they want, they want, they want, they want, they want, they want, they want, they want, they want, they want, they want want they want they want they want to want to want to want to want to want to want to want to want to want to want they want they want they want, they want, they want, they, they want, they want, they and of course I said no to all of them because I felt they've done that. Yeah. But they are they whatever it is you've just done if it went well they want you to do the same thing. If it didn't go well they never want to see you again but if it didn't go well they from exactly the same thing again. Is there like in Hollywood. She works with a very successful director in that. But she always told me about director purgatory or director penalty box where like if you have a bad movie the box. You kind of sit in this box for like a year, year and a half before they. That's the movie jail, people call it. I know you had a string of success.

Were you ever put in movie jail? Jonathan? Oh yes. After clue which opened and didn't do well to start with, it's become hugely successful, but it wasn't when it opened. I was unemployable. I couldn't get a movie for four years. So what did you do? I went back to Britain and did yes Minister and yes Prime Minister and I directed three shows at the National Theatre. And then I had an idea for the thi the the the the th the th thu the thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu the thu thu thu the the the the the the movie the the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the the the the movie the movie the movie the movie to to the movie the movie the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu the the the the the the the the the thea tea tea tea tea. tea. teau tea. toooooooooooooo too too too too too to Britain and did yes minister and yes, Prime Minister, and I directed three shows at the National Theatre. And then I had an idea for nuns on the run and I wrote it but nobody wanted it. So I was hired to write it by Warner Brothers, but they didn't want it because they said, take out all this theological dialectic and I said, no, no, it's just jokes about the church. So let me ask you

something you oh sorry I didn't mean to cut you off you were so then I you know I rewrote it British and did it as a British movie. That's amazing. Pagreton paid for it because no studio would pay for it. Would you do you do you feel that um do you feel that um do you feel what was your thoughts on where a Hollywood is right now in terms of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoughts on where Hollywood is right now in terms of the box office? Because what we've seen now is they had a historically bad year. People aren't going to the movies. It seems like the only movies people want to go to now are superhero movies. I have my theories on that.

And like a lot of movies you've done these classics in a weird way they would be seen as Indy Flix if they came out right now. They wouldn't necessarily be getting, or maybe I'm wrong. No you're absolutely right and furthermore, well several of them were Indy Flicks and I now would not be able to make a studio film. Studio films are all the same. I think they deserve their record bad year. I went to the movies recently and went to see Dunkirk, which I liked.

It was a wonderful movie. A wonderful movie. And there were six trailers for films that were absolutely indistinguishable. They all had different titles, but they all had the same stuff. They had robots, cars flying through the air, explosions. I mean, just they were the same movie. And if I were a young member of the public, I would not go to see all of them, and I might go to see none because they're all the same.

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But I think a good ones, but there's very few. I would totally agree with that The reason I think they do better is because especially in Los Angeles the movies are so expensive. It is so it's like Let's say I go see a movie at the movie theater on Hollywood and Highland. It is a it's $20. th. th. th. It's. th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. th. It's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I. I. I th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th a movie at the movie theater on Hollywood and Highland. It is a, it's $20, $22 to see the movie. So I'm bringing my girl, so now I'm 45 bucks in, not including the parking which they have the balls, they charge me $5 to park there. And then all the drinks and all this, I'm over $50. If you've got kids, you've got a babysitter. Yep. And, you know, yeah, it's crazy. And, you know, other businesses, other forms of show business,

they charge you according to the price of the value of what you're seeing. So if you go to see a small play, you pay very little for a ticket. You're going to see a huge musical, you might pay a lot every movie is priced the same. So whether you go and see, you know, some tiny independent film that costs 1.8 million, or whether you go and see Wonder Woman, it's the same price. That's crazy. And it's just like, you know, and again, you know, there's this whole argument that like Vegas, the movie industry and the music industry was all better when it was ran by the mob because they understood, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and again, and again, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the movie industry, and the music industry was all better when it was ran by the mob because they understood, you know, lost leaders and stuff like that and it wasn't like what I call these Terminator suits who just everything is about a dollar. Like now in Las Vegas I just went to Las Vegas and they're charging

for parking and I'm gonna tell you nobody's gonna go that hotel because nobody's gonna want to charging for parking. And I'm going to tell you nobody's going to go that hotel because nobody's going to want to pay for parking. They ain't never charging for parking back in the day. That was the whole thing. You park there, you leave your car for a week, you come back, you get and you go. Now they're trying the dollars. No I'm not I'm saying that I think that they like Vegas used to run the mom you run Vegas where it's like we know we're gonna make our money on the the table so we're gonna bring in Frank Sinatra and you only have to pay $10 to see him your hotel

room is $10 and I because we know you're gonna drop three to four hundred dollars gabling and that's where they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're to the the their to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. I I tho. I tho. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thooooo. I their the make their money at. Where suits are like everything like the hard rock like I went to a hard rock it's like it's like $12 for a Budweiser a Budweiser. Yeah it's crazy. It's crazy. So let's get into your book man the Samaritans can you tell us a little bit about it? Well it's a it's a dark comedy about health care, which I find hilarious and terrible in this country. And it's set in a hospital called Samaritans in Washington, D.C., which is beset by rising costs and bad management, like most hospitals, and in an attempt to get out of their financial problems, they decide they're going to hire out of their financial problems,

they decide they're going to hire, as their CEO, the head of hotel operations from a Vegas casino. Because he understands about check in and check out, beds occupied, dinner served, he knows how to fill a big institution with lots of rooms, and he has absolutely no interest in health care. He's just interested in making money. So that's what it's about. It's about how health care has become purely money-making operation in this country. I love that the guy who owns it is a purpose, which was to cure people.

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So I think it's an element of that, but in this case, you know, he's the chairman of the hospital board because he's trying to, as he puts it, give back. So having, making billions from other people's death and injury all over the world, he thinks is good for his image of his chairman of a hospital board. And that's why he's he's that he's that he's that he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's doing he's doing he's doing he's doing he's doing he's doing he's doing to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the. the the the the the the. the the the the. the. the the. the. the. to to to the. to tothe world. He thinks is good for his image of his chairman of a hospital board. And that's why he's doing it. Yeah. You seem to have, you seem to be into satire a lot when it comes to your art. Why satire? Do you because you're making, you know, with your famous, a lot, our listeners in America might not know the show. Yes, Minister and yes, Prime Minister, which made fun of, you know with your famous a lot our listeners in America might not know the show yes minister and yes prime minister which made fun of you know the British government at the time and you do that you write this book why are why that type of art what made you get into that kind of satire well

satire satire satire satire is a form of is a mode of humor which attempts to change things in society. So and and if art is is how can I put this simply if art is criticism of life which I think it is comedy is criticism of life by ridicule. So what satire does is it looks at what all comedy does. It looks at the institutions of society. He looks at marriage, looks at the cops, it looks at the courts, it looks at the government, it looks at the church, it looks at every major institution, the military, and makes fun of it. And if you're a satyrist, what you're actually hoping to do is, it means you're a kind of hopeless moralist. It means you're actually trying to, by drawing attention to how terrible things are and by

making them funny, you're hoping the people will do something about it. So I've listened to you on other podcasts and read some of your stuff. Now you had a very interesting thing on what was it about art Ryan that he had? It was a really good quote. Yeah you said in another podcast is actually with your friend on what was that? Something inquiry? Yeah. Inquiring minds. If you guys had you should check it out. It's a very good podcast. Art is criticism life. Satire is Criticism of Life by ridicule. I mean, that really gets to the base of it.

And what people forget, which you bring up is, 1984 was a satire. It wasn't designed as a manual on how to complete the future, which it's become. No, it's a dystopian book, but what it's saying is, and distressingly it's coming more true every day, saying this is how the world is going. And Orwell was a satyrist, he wrote a really funny little book called Animal Farm, which you probably know on, which is about how the animals take over a farm. And it's really, it's a satire on the Soviet system of government and it was

at the time of Stalin. But it's a funny book. And you know the I like to use humor because I think otherwise it's boring. I don't want to be boring and preachy. I want to entertain people. I want to make them laugh but it's more fun to make them laugh with ideas than just with jokes about the price of fish. Yeah, it's true. It's kind of what we do. We're in completely different forms of media, but we find that if we can plant seeds and sprinkle it with a little bit of humor, they'll grow more than if you just give it the

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You know, Elmore Leonard had a number of great rules for writing novels, which I think the best is cut out the bits of people that are going to skip. Yeah, well yeah, I get that. They do, in comedy too, it's all about stand-up, it's all about trimming the fat, get to it. Just boom, boom, boom. Now you, satire, you see a lot. What's your opinion on modern day artists right now, we don't really see an anti-war left. We don't, I don't really know who's the counterculture now? Like what is counterculture now?

Back in the day the 60s and 70s, it was very anti-war, anti-establishment? Is that, is there anywhere? It seems like everybody's co-signing everything that Washington is doing. Your thoughts on that? Well, I wouldn't think so. I think there's an enormous resistance to Donald Trump and his administration. I don't think he won the election. I think it was, you know, there was so much voter suppression and so forth, gerrymandering.

You know, I'm not sure that in an actual democratic vote that Trump would have one, I think he wouldn't have, but leaving that side. There's plenty of people on the air who are expressing huge opposition, and if that's what you call a counterculture. There's John Oliver, there's Saturday Night Live, there's Jimmy Kimmel, there's, you know, there's lots of people. And the problem with America for some reason is that satire seems to be only acceptable with late night television shows.

Yeah, they're the only ones who are allowed to like question anything, huh? Yeah, after 10 p.m. Yeah. Which I find puzzling. Were you a Hillary Clinton fan? No. Which I find puzzling. Were you a Hillary Clinton fan? No, but I voted for her. Okay. Why? Is it just the lesser of two evils? Absolutely the lesser of two evils, very much the lesser of two evils, but I did have reservations about it. I mean, I, I gave a lot of money to Bernie Sanders' campaign. Now did you think that that primary was at all in like some interesting things went on with that?

With which primaries? With Clinton Sanders' primary? Yeah. Well yes, I mean once again, it seemed to me that the California result was announced when there were still, I think it was between one and two million votes uncounted. Yeah. Democratic property. I think, you know, I think Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who's the chairman of the Democratic Party, had really organized things in terms of Hillary Clinton's success. I think there were about, I don't know, 15 or 20 Republican debates on television in prime timetime. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, it thi, it was thi, it was thi, it was thi, it was thi, it was thi, it was thi, it was thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I th, I th, it was th, it was th, it was th, it was th, it was th, it was thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was thi, thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I think there were about, I don't know,

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Now, some of our listeners may not know that much about Margaret Thatcher. Can you tell us a little bit about Margaret Thatcher so that they... There are your thoughts on her because I want to see how it relates to Hillary Clinton and if there's, if there's this notion... She's nothing like Hillary. Nothing, nothing at all? No, not at all. She was very, very, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. Now, th. Now, th th thi. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now. Now. Now. Now, now. Now, now. Now. Now, th th th th th th th. Now, now. Now, th. Now, th. Now, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho. Now, tho. Now, tho. Now, tho. Now, tho. Now, tho. Now, tho. Now, tho. Now, tho. Now, thoo. Now, tho. Now nothing like it nothing nothing at all no no not at all she was very very conservative she was she came to power in with a major attempt to break the trade unions who were very powerful in Britain in 1979 she she was she was hard to describe her really to the trade unions who were very powerful in Britain in 1979. She was, it's hard to describe her really. She had no sense of humor. She was, I mean, I met her several times because she was indeed to my great embarrassment, a huge fan of the program and told everybody. Now how does that make you feel? I mean, obviously you said it's embarrassing,

but in comedy, in music you see that a lot, like a politician will be touring and he's on election, and he'll play songs and a band will be like, hey dude, don't play our song, we don't like you. We don't give you the right to play our songs. How does that make that make that make a different view of that. I think you can't choose your audience. I mean there are there are millions of people maybe hundreds of millions of people out there who see what I do one way or another. I can't select them, I can't choose them it's not up to me. I can have my views about their views about me. Now in the case of Margaret Thatcher, she was telling, I don't think she had a sense of humor, although that was a comedy show. I think

politicians like to associate themselves with things that are very popular with the public. The show was enormously popular and by telling everybody that it was her favorite show, it made her seem as th humor and she felt it and it ingratiated her with all the show's fans. There's a clear political motive for this. I met her several times and I was invited to number 10 Downing Street which was her equivalent of the White House and I had dinner with her and um... What was that like?

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wonder how great it really is. Well sometimes I wonder if we're actually wanting to win the war and not just prolong the war in an empire type attitude. You know, the attitude like, oh yeah, we're invading, but hey, we're going to hang out here for the next two decades. Well, yes, there's no question that the American American American American American American American American American American American American American American American American American American, American, the American, American, American, their their here for the next two decades. Well, yes, there's no question that the American Empire is passed. And I think there are bases, American bases, to 180 countries at this point. But anyway, I was given an award by something that was equivalent to Jerry Falwell's moral majority

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And it got an enormous laugh and after that she didn't speak to me again and I was never again by the snot team. So it works. So it works. Because I think about that all the time. Like there were people in this country that I absolutely despised George Bush, Dick Cheney. And you know recently Ellen had Dick Cheney on and I'm just like what how do you do that? How do you have somebody on that you know whether he was just a figurehead of it or had act you know because I think the

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so much alike in ways that so much of America's is conservative and very staunch and when people think of Britain, they think of very proper and prim, but I mean I was raised on Monty Python, I remember like staying up late at night to see Benny Hill chase like half-naked girls around, I was like, who are these cookey bastards over there? And so I always hold in mind, you guys have that essence of knowing that comedy is is universal, you know? I think I think you're right about British rock bands, though of course there are a their they are they are they are there are there are there are a there are a there are a there are a there are a there are a there are a number there are a number there are a number there are a number there are a number they are a number they are a number they are a number a number their they are a number thi their thi thi thi thi thii thi' thi' thi' thi' up they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're a they're a they're a they're a they're a they're a they're a they're a they're a they're a they're a they're a they're a thi thi thi thi thi thi thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii thiiiiiiiii thi're right. I think it is universal. I think you're right about British rock bands. Of course, there are a number of absolutely great American rock bands too.

G&R, Leonard Skinner, The Doors, but. Yeah. Oh, there's plenty. Yeah. You know, Springsteen, I mean, there's lots. Yeah. But, but, and some of my favorite bands are American. Paul Simon is great. I think Randy Newman is absolutely terrific. You know, there are a lot of a lot of people on both sides of the Atlantic. I think we have a tremendous amount of common. But we I don't have much in common with

with the more conservative parts of this country and and conservatives are much more under control in Britain than they are here. The evangelical thing here is sort of very different from anything we have in Britain. It's unbelievable. Nobody, nobody, I mean, they don't have any real standing in Britain. People laugh at them. Well, here's what I find out about what my opinion on America compared to England, because I think you guys don't put up with as much as we do when it comes to our politicians.

And I think the reason is we're a lot, as a country, we're a lot younger. I feel like we're going through our growing phase whereas you guys had to deal with royal families and all these wars over time where you guys learn the patterns of a brute of abuse and you could see it coming therefore like your your House of Commons is amazing I watched that you ever watch that on C-SPAN? It is like, it's Congress meets your mama's competition. It's great.

The main difference is that we don't respect our politicians. We don't think that just because you're elected to public office, you're entitled to respect. You're entitled to respect if you earn it. And that's very few politicians. So if you watch a television interview show, a political show, the interviewers are much tougher. They don't accept all the bullshit that you hear from American politicians in which interviewers hear on all the main TV shows don't actually question. Or if they do, they question it terribly carefully and very very cautiously. In Britain the interviewers are ruthless they just say

they just basically say but it's not what you said it's not what you believed it's do you realize that you said this here and now you're saying this there and you can't believe both and you know I mean they're they're quite rigorous in the way they interview people and the way that doesn't happen here and that's what you see reflected in the House of Commons too. I love it. In all fairness I mean the House of Commons is very different for watching Congress on television. Oh yeah but in both cases it's all it's theater nothing is decided in the

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between 9 and 11% of GDP. Yeah, it's a... Sorry, GDP. So what that means is that health care here is slightly more than one-third more expensive than in any other developed industrialized country. And that is money that is just taken straight off the top by the insurance companies and the pharmaceuticals. Yeah, in this country, you're going sir, sorry. Well, no, well, I mean, that's the biggest difference.

So, you know, health care is infinitely cheaper in every other developed country. And in all these other developed countries, everyone, there is universal health care. That's not all a sort of Medicare for all systems, sometimes it's completely state organized and sometimes it's a system of state and private insurance. But if it's private insurance, it's strictly regulated and all the private insurance companies are not-for-profit, and that genuinely means not-for-profit. Whereas here, it is all about profit. Health Healthcare here is on a business school model and the theory is that if you can't afford it you shouldn't get it. Now I think that's absurd. I mean that's like saying if you can't

if a burglar breaks into your house and you can't afford to pay the cops, don't call them. Because they won't come. Or if you're fire breaks out you've got to pay the cops don't call them because they won't come or if your fire breaks out you've got to pay the fire department or they won't come. I said all the time. If you want to flush your toilet you'd better pay the city or they won't flush it. Now at the point is there are certain things for the public service yes and health care people like social democracy yes I agree that th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoes is is is is is. I is. I is. I is.ooooooesoescea tooooooesuoescea. thoooooesoesoes are the the the the the the things but not in other things are cool the military the police and all It's social democracy. Yes, I agree. You know, I mean people are scared to death of socialism here, but what they associate that with Stalinism. They associate it with with oppression and total lack of freedom, but that's not how it is anywhere in Western Europe. It's not how it is in Canada or in Australia or New Zealand. It's people have

plenty of freedom. They have the freedom to be able to afford health care without going bankrupt. Do you know the bankruptcy? The main, the number one cause of personal bankruptcy in this country is medical debt. Yep. How can that be in a civilized country? Today my father texts me today and I'm so blessed he has health insurance. He was in the hospital for four days, dude, four days. He wanted to leave earlier.

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work it out. And I think that's ridiculous. See, the meat free market is hamburgers, okay? If I want a $16 hamburger, I can go find a $16 hamburger. But if I can only afford a dollar hamburger, there's dollar hamburgers out there. That's free market. What's going on with your cell phones right now? Verizon Wireless wireless having to give away free data because everywhere else was because their competition was lowering the price to get more, more customers. That's free market. Where is the free market in the

health care industry? Where can I go for a cheaper version of this people fighting for my dollar? It doesn't exist. Well it exists in some places, but that's that that isn't the argument about a free market is that unfettered capitalism doesn't work. Now, capitalism works, it works better than communism, it works better than, it's a system that works, but it only works when it's regulated. It only works when it's controlled. It only works when it's fair.

It only works when the government intervenes to make sure that people who are very rich and very greedy don't take everything for themselves. That's what makes capitalism work. It has to work for the people overall. And what people, a lot of conservatives forget, is that when they don't want to pay workers properly, is that workers and consumers are the same people. So, so therefore, if you don't pay the workers properly, they can't buy anything. If they can't buy anything, the economy doesn't flourish.

Nothing gets consumed, nothing grows, nothing, you know, you need consumption in order to make the economy function. And capitalism is not a failure. It's not that it doesn't work. It's that it's it's that it's unregulated and uncontrolled and in the hands of people who are only interested in making money for themselves. And that can't be the way any community operates. There has to be a sense of community, there And that can't be the way any community operates. There has to be a sense of community.

There has to be a sense of making it work for everybody. And if you don't, you're going to get into terrible trouble in the house. I agree. When do you say that there's places to go for cheaper health care, let's say my father, like what you're suggesting? Where can you th? would love to, I mean like we just saw... I don't know where you live and I don't know where your father lives. He lives in Arizona. I mean, but I mean like the hospital, where is a, where is a counter to what the hospitals pay? I don't, I just don't see like, right now in Washington, they pass the bill that said, Americans can't go to, can't go to Canada and buy cheaper drugs.

They have to buy their drugs here and it's way more expensive. I don't, we're, we're... That's right, but that's because government regulations and laws have been brought in to prevent the free market operating. Right. That's, that isn't the free market. That's a problem with the... Well, that's what, yeah, that's what, I guess, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, that's a problem with the problem. Well, that's what, yeah, that's what, I think, I guess we're agreeing on it. I guess we're just coming from a different angle on it.

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in my honest opinion. We're going to say something. Will you ever notice in the one of the very first things they say in side effects? Side effects include suicidal thoughts. I'm like, what, now I don't have a headache, but I'm suicidal and I got explosive diarrhea. What's going on here? And I know that a majority of people that listen to our podcasts are anywhere from like 18

to 35, but don't get it twisted. One day you're going to need to be, you're going to be in the hospital. For me, we're saying, I don't have health care, but the only time I ever go, the hospital is when I break a bone or some shit hits the fan and then when I do, I'm like, man, I wish that. But you should have insurance because what have you, well, straight out of the studio and you get hit by a car. I know. Yeah, when we're the research the research the research, I got to get my life straight. Everybody has needs to have health insurance. The problem is that it's, it's the system is fixed here so that an enormous number of people can't afford it. I mean, under Obamacare, which was an improvement on what was there before.

There was still 27 million people without health care insurance. And to put that perspective, I mean, they estimate that California's population is 30 million. No, that's just Southern California, dude. They're talking, that's from LA down to San Diego. That's it. Jesus. And that's, just think how many people live from LA down to San Diego, where it's just,

I mean, we make cities up, but for the most far, it's just one giant city. When you get by those two nuclear war nipples that were in the naked gun, you remember that? Yeah, that little area has got no city, but most of it's just complete city all the way down. That's a lot of people, man. That's a lot of, and you know. But it's 27 million people in this country with no insurance. Now that doesn't that doesn doesn doesn doesn doesn doesn doesn doesn doesn doesn doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that's that's thus. thus. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. toe. toe. toe. toe. too. too. too. too. to. to. to. to. to. th. the the insurance. Now that doesn't include all the people who have got some kind of insurance,

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With deductibles. Every other Western developed industrialized country has universal health care. Everybody can get health insurance. Everybody is covered. There are lots of different ways of doing it. But this is the only country with this problem. It's a bit like gunless here. You know, it's, I mean, there was a great headline in the onion last week after that terrible massacre in Las Vegas, when it said, I can't remember the exact wording, but it said, nothing can be done about this as the only country where this regularly happens.

Yes, right. Yeah, but I totally agree at that. and the point is, this problem can be solved. It just isn't going to be solved so long as Congress is being in the pay of the pharmaceuticals and the insurance companies and the other vested interests who are giving so much money to members of Congress and members of the Senate that they have absolutely no interest in changing the system. I would be even happy if the government could even negotiate with pharmaceutical companies. We can't even do that. They can't negotiate with them. Whatever price the pharmaceutical companies want put out is the price we've got to pay. That's why I'm saying there's no free market man.

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maybe a low estimate and it's the third largest cause of death in this country after cancer and heart disease. But I'm sorry for the doctors. I don't blame the doctors. The doctors have a terrible time. Most of them employ four or five clerks in their office just to argue with the insurance companies all day. Yeah. I mean, they have huge expenses.

It's a very litigious society. If the slightest thing goes wrong, they're sued for millions. You know, it's a, I don't think being a doctor is an easy job here. I think there are some who are exploitative, but I think there are many who do their absolute best. And just want to help out, and it's just an impossible situation. It's impossible. It's the lobbyist, and I found it interesting researching about your films and whatnot. You made a film called The Distinguished Gentleman with Eddie Murphy. And that's about a lobbyist. And in there, an interview thatthat you gave you're talking about how

Bill Clinton said yeah that's the way it is. I mean our politicians shouldn't see a film that's dark comedy and being like yep that's it. Oh I probably thought it was a doc that's probably probably probably probably not. No that was very interesting Clinton who had just been elected saw the movie and came out and was seen on the news saying yeah that's the way it is in Washington and he was going to be he was going to be inaugurated the following month and I phoned Disney who had made the film and said you've got to get that clip into an ad and put it out everywhere and they said no and I said why not and it turned out their lobbyists in Washington didn't want that to happen because Disney is also represented by lobbyists and they need

lobbyists to you know to get Congress to build roads to to Anaheim to Disneyland and to Orlando and they need all kinds of concessions and they need copyright law expanded so Mickey Mouse can go on being not in the public domain for another 25 years and so the the the the the the the the the lobby. the the lobby. the lobby. the the lobby. the the lobby. the the lobby. the lobby. the the the the the lobby. the lobby. the lobby. the lobby. the lobby. the lobby. the lobby. the lobby. the lobby. they they they they they the lobby. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to they they to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they they to they they to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the so Mickey Mouse can go on being not in the public domain for another 25 years. And so the lobbyists said no and so they wouldn't use that quote from Bill Clinton endorsing the movie. Well we've said it before that you know we think that you know the people who own pharmaceuticals, own the war companies, own the oil companies, own giant chunks of all these production companies and these, you know, these movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie movie these movie these movie these movie these movie these movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public the public. their their the public. their the war companies, own the oil companies, own giant chunks of

all these production companies and these, you know, these movie studios. And you know, our friend, Andrew Santino, had one joke about back acne and having to take drugs for it, and Showtime told them to take it out that our, we are owned by pharmaceutical companies and they don't want that out. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. I they don't want that out. Yeah. It's crazy. I think there's parallels to your book with what's actually happening in modern day. I read about how it's a CEO of a, he used to be a, he said he was a Vegas guy and they bring him in to run the hospital.

Well, Gary Loveman, former CEO and now bankrupt Vegas casino, Caesar's Palace, has recently been appointed by Aetna, Etna, to run its health care insurance division. I mean, he bankrupts. Unbelievable. That happened while I was writing the book. I couldn't believe it because I created this character who I thought was this sort of logical absurdity of, you know, a Vegas man who would be hired to run a major hospital in Washington, D.C. and lo and behold, that went one better. They hired a Vegas man from a bankrupt casino to run their entire

health care division. Unbelievable! Now we're just talking about how Hollywood filters out things. Do you see this or have anyone approached you to make this book into a film or is it too close? Nobody has. I'm hoping they will but I'm not holding my breath. Is it kind of it's because too close to the vein of truth, huh? I fear it may be. But you know I'm I'm certainly hoping that somebody will. I think it would make a very good cable series. I think it would also make too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too close too close too close too close too close too close too close too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too close close to too close that somebody will. I think it would make a very good cable series. I think it would also make a very good movie. But so, I mean, I have put out a few feelers, but so far, with no response whatever.

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It's unbelievable to me. There's like, you know, when I came in to LA, there was a bunch of comedians who were known for stealing other people's jokes, and I just would watch and nothing would happen and I'm like is there ever Consequences and then the consequences came is there any consequences for this cronyism Jonathan do you see anything ever changing or how does it change? I don't know? I don't know I like to know the answer to that So many people playing ball just for a check. I just don't get it? Some people don't don't. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like the the the the the their their their their their their their their their the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th like. I th like like. I th like like like like like like like like like like like like like like. I like. I like to to to to to to to to to th like. I to the like. I theeeat, I theat theat, I theat theat theeat, I theeat the like to the like th like th like the to that. So many people playing ball just for a check. I just don't get it. I just don't get it. Some people don't, but most people do. It's kind of shameful. I

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I mean this is, it's a bit like Dr. Strangelove what we're witnessing here. It really is, man. It's more like idiosecracy or ideocracy. 100% dude. And now he's talking about going in which is all petro dollar stuff and so that if you go North Korea Venezuela we say here before that's our eighth and ninth war that only two of them have been approved by Congress those are Hitler numbers when you hit nine you're getting the Hitler numbers you can't get Congress to take any interest in this

Obama try to get Congress to approve the various wars he was conducting and Congress refused to debate them. They refused to put them on the agenda. Unbelievable. Mitch McConnell and I wouldn't, you know, I know. He wouldn't put it down for debate. Well some would say that as much as damage that Trump's doing in such a short amount of time he's the in a weird way the best thing to happen to American politics because he illuminates the how it's all a facade like no longer can you not say that it's not just a puppet because now after this presidency let's hope that. Now every bad celebrity wants to be a a kid rock wants to do it? Where's it gonna stop? th? th? the the the the the the th? the the the the the the th th the th the th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. th. He's th. He's th. He's he he he he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. In, in in, in, in, in, in, in th. In th. In th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to the. to to the. to to to the. to to the. to the. to the. the. the. the. the. thethat... Oh, now every bad celebrity wants to be a... Kid Rock wants to...

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There's been no end of ignorant celebrities. He's so bad. Celebrities getting into government. I know so much you want. And they're mostly very highly regarded. I mean, Reagan has a kind of godlike stature among the Republican Party members. I find that very positive. Yep. And, I mean, he's been referred to as Black Jesus.

I mean, Obama definitely didn't make things better, but at least he was able to be eloquent about it. Yeah. I think he made some things better. Yeah. And I think he did his best. I think it was almost impossible. There was a, it was agreed by the Republicans the moment

he won that they would not cooperate with anything that he did. So, you know, he's only the president. You can't, presidents can't legislate. Congress has to pass legislation and Congress refused, the Republicans of Congress refused to cooperate with Obama. I don't blame him for that. I think he did his utmost. Yeah, I think your book is does a really good way of just giving commentary to what's happening in our times with the health care industry. I mean you kind of have a history of it with, I mean not to end on it, but my cousin Vinny, it was a commentary on capital punishment. It was. And it's, I mean, I've th th th, I've th, I've th, I've th th, I've th, I've th th th th I've th th th th th thi I've th thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've the the the the tho, I've th. I've th. I've the the the the the the the the their, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've the the th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi. thin, I've theean, I'm thean, thin, thean, thean, thin, thean, thean, thin, the. I'm thi. I was. And it's, I mean, I've heard you say that you've been asked to speak in front of like panels of federal judges and whatnot.

I mean, when are we going to have to have the modern Dr. Strange Love to understand that? Could you imagine if Winston Churchill was tweeting at Hitler? Like, hey, could you not bomb us anymore? Like, when are things going to change? What can we do? Where's the hope and the ray of positivity? Is there silver lining? Well, I don't know. The hope is that people, I hope people will read my book. I hope they will read lots of things with similar points of view. I hope they'll keep watching John Oliver and other people who have something to say. And it has a very slow and gradual and slight but

eventually it mounts. Eventually more and more people begin to understand what it is that we're saying. Do you feel like people are waking up to what's happening around them? I don't know. I hope so. Yeah. Jonathan, thank you so much for you guys, but I only ask questions. No, I totally respect the art. Keep it up because we need people like you that are really shining the light on all these absurdities because that's what reality has become. Now Jonathan, I want to go outside. Do you encourage people to buy my book? Please buy his book, everybody.

Go buy Jonathan's book. Jonathan, before you go, this podcast. You can't tell them, I have to do this for you. No, I said it several times, Samaritans. We're going to's gonna be the name of the episode man. We're gonna tweet it down where to get it man. I'm gonna go buy it. I'm gonna go buy it. I'm gonna go buy it buddy. That's how much I appreciate. Amazon on our show. I'm gonna go buy that book okay. I think I this podcast called Tinfoil Hat it is a spiritual skepticism podcast. Some say conspiracy we're not really into that

that word we're more spiritual skeptics we we question the official narrative. So with that said I would love to ask you if you don't mind your thoughts on the my cousin Vinny Oscar conspiracy? Could I ask you about that? And your thoughts about how people thought that maybe there was something behind Marissa Tomey grabbing it? She did an excellent job in that movie. She deserved the award.

But I just had a fun. Your thoughts on that, that there's this whole conspiracy with that? I don't believe it. I think I think she was an outside choice. She was the only she was the only actress up for the part who wasn't really famous. This was the first big movie role. All the others were very, very well known. And I think I expected her to win. Before the Oscars I expected her to win. People said to me, what do you think that chances are? And I said, I think she'll win because the film came out in March and it was now nearly the following March.

And for a whole year everybody had said to me, everybody said to me, who is that wonderful woman in your film? That's what everybody said who saw the film. And it seemed to me that, included among that would be the 5 or 6,000 Academy voters. And that's what happened. And I, I flatly don't believe that would be the five or six thousand Academy voters and that's what happened and I flatly don't believe that she didn't win it I think it was nonsense. I love it I've always wanted to ask you guys about that and I'm so thankful you came on and I was able to answer that I think that's so awesome. I think I'm a good fight. I thought she was great and I did too. I really enjoyed it I enjoy all all you you you you you you you you the you the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to that to to to to to to to to to thea. to thea. I that that that that that thi thi th she was great. I thought she was great and I'm happy to. I really enjoyed it. I enjoy all your work. Again, his book is Samaritans. Go check it out. I'm excited. I'm going

to buy it tonight. I promise you that. Jonathan, thank you so much for coming on the show. It was a real honor man. I've been enjoying your work for decades, and I really appreciate you coming on. Thank you so much. It's been my pleasure. Thank you very much. Very nice to meet both of you. Good luck with the book and take care. And I hope you get to make this into a movie, my friend.

Thank you. Me too. Take care, Jonathan Lynn, everybody. I thought that was a great. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe, toe, toe. toe, toe, toe, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toe. toe. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the. the. the. the. the. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. thea. thea. thea. Jonathan Lynn, everybody. I thought that was a great interview. Aaron, thoughts on one my interview, skills? I mean, it's obviously a Skype, so you were cutting him off a little bit, but that's fine. I, I, I, you're doing your best. He would take breaths. Like he was about to stop. He's English.

And then he would go again, and I was like he was about to stop he's English. He would go again and I was like Fuck dramatic pause I mean he's it's fine. No, it's totally fine And I apologize and I tried not to I tried to time it. Yeah, yeah, no you did you did way better After the first after the second the two-thirds. Yeah, the second two-y-thirds. Yeah, the second two-you asked how I felt. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. It's. th. th. th. th. th. It's th. It's th. th. It's th. th. It's th. It's the the the tote. It's tote. It's tote. It's tote. It's tote. It's tote. It's tote. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's that. Okay. I don't think this is a conspiracy. I think this is a reality and I totally agree with all of it. Well, the conspiracy is, and he and I disagreed is that there is their free market on that? And it's not. There's not free market. Yeah, there's no way this is. And, you know, he's like, well, you can't you can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can the's visit. Like you either go to a real hospital or you can go to a clinic and pay $60, you know? And this podcast, maybe that's what he means. This was

an interesting interview because politically I don't agree, I didn't agree with everything he said. But like I don't want to get on here and make it about challenging that. Like that's the weird thing about this show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I, I they, I they, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to, I to, I to, I th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to the to to to challenging that. Like that's the weird thing about this show and it's kind of finding its footing in that I'm not going to challenge everything on everything. I love the interview. I love I was I'm so thankful that guy would come on our show. Yeah. His view of Hillary I don't agree with. His view of Obama I didn't agree with but at the same time I don't want to make the interview about that. I wanted to make it about his book and the health care industry. I'm very reasonable. I'm just an American, I guess whenever I hear a British accent, I'm like, oh I'm fascinated. I love David Attenborough.

Yeah, the moment I hear someone from the south, I'm like just go put on shit kicking Let me ask you, what time are we at? We're at 105. Okay. I want to say that I'm personally affected by all this. I have a deadly allergy to shellfish. Bad comedy? Oh, really? Yeah. So, when I was diagnosed with that, after having a couple reactions, you know, I got a $2,000 hospital bill for four hours in an emergency room.

Unbelievable. And then I had to get a... I had to get an epipen, which was $650 to a thousand. The one the guy wanted me to get, the talking one that takes you through the steps, and it fits in your pocket so you can carry it everywhere. That's the best part about it. Crazy. Because it's about the size of a packa. cigarettes, maybe smaller even. That was a thousand dollars, so I had to get I had to get all these discounts and things that I had to just scramble for and

still paid $3.50 and expired, I don't know, 18 months ago, two years ago. Jesus. So now I'm just kind of... It's ridiculous, man, and it makes no sense. I mean you just avoid it as best you can, but yeah, if I'm, if my throat's throat's throat's closing's closing's closing's closing's closing's closing's closing's closing's closing's closing's closing's closing's closing's closing's closing's'm if my throat's closing up what I don't have a shot. I'm really sorry about that and I think that's bullshit and I think that people don't realize that they they fall for the media and they fall for the fighting and they don't realize that you know there's actually and I wish I would have brought up with them there's actually the biggest concern people saying then we're going to get our five-star reviews real quick, the biggest concern is like, oh, if you do universal health care, people will show up

and the lines will be forever. And then they always get that one Canadian or that one British guy that hate bitches about the health care. Real quick. Ask that person. We're going to take away your health care. How quick would they be like, no, dude, don't take away my health care? Fine. You don't want lines. Put a $60, you got to pay 60 bucks to see the doctor. $100 see the doctor. That way people wouldn't go unless they absolutely have to.

The price of the fucking pharmaceuticals and the price of the doctor, fine. Put a $60 pay on that. Throw a $100 pay on that. That will keep poor people from, or like just, I didn't mean poor people. I hate that I said that, but just people who are just hyperconductor acts who have headaches who are going to see surgeons because they think they have a tumolm in their head, you know. But yeah, generally speaking anyone who's young, thiiiiiiiiiiii. I. I. I. I. I. I is, th. I is, thi. I is, thi. I is, thi. I is, thi. I is, thi. I is thi. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm thi, I'm thi, thi, thi. thi, to to to to be to be thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. to to to theeeeeeea. to to to to to toeeei. toei. to to to to to to theeee. healthy is just, they're gonna go as often as they do now, which is probably next to ever once a year maybe for that physical. So they always get one fucking Canadian going, oh I hate this shit, and it's like that. Okay, let's get into these. Let's start right here. You want to read these real quick, Ryan. We'll do as many as we can. Since we've the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, th. their, th. th. their, their, th. th. th. th. th. their, th. their, their, their, th. th. th. th. the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, the year, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. the. thr. thr. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. their their the. the. the studio, there's been a bunch of them. If you go to your five, go to iTunes, give us a five-star review. We will read it.

You only have to say anything positive. You just got to give a five-star review. So yours. All right, this is five-star review. Must listen by Trash Heap. their shout-heap. They bring you down some crazy rabbit holes. Some have been very good possibility of being and a, hey, what? Enlightenment. Okay, next one.

Let's get for the hot one. You're infecting me with your ability to read. All right, female subscriber. Boom. By bride. I love your podcast. I appreciate when you give us subscribers info, where to find sources so we can dive down the rabbit hole ourselves I love binge with listening to you guys and keep up questioning everything get some more female conspirators I mean get give us we're going

to we have two Vanessa and Rachel so we'll keep going yeah nothing far from real five-style review a good-nomad him some things I've heard on here I knew, however certain things that I heard have as research been fairly true. Okay, love you guys. Thank you. We can't read all. You guys did long one. Enjoyed the latest. Horsecock, the warlock. Thank you. You guys should do more true crime episodes, which we're gonna do stuff with our friends, crime. Three eyes. Three eyes. Three eyes? Was the two crime? tr. tr. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi th thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. I I I I I I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. th eyes we're gonna do three eyes that was there a two I one crime no crime truth be out there keep digging BWC man awesome show covering many different subjects thank

you buddy my favorite podcast thank you to two five Tim we appreciate my favorite part of the podcast is when they read the five-star reviews at the end. I love... Really? That's your favorite part? Jesus Christ. Usually it's when we yell, Aaron, thoughts? Uh, for shizzle, by, their shizzle, wow.

When I stumbled upon the show I felt as if my Tim Boy Hat got stuck on by lightning. What was that? I was going to say keep in mind that I have these up on the screen so they can read along. Oh okay all right but not everybody's more people listen. Yeah I know it's okay so you owe me an apology. Thank you. But I'm just saying like every time you make mistake people could see where. Fine they fine read along with the retarded entertaining entertaining entertaining as hack. What's that's th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tort. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. Enter tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank. tank is tot is tot is tot is toy is tot is tot is toye. tota. toye. tota. tota. tota. tota. tota. tota. tota. tota. t literally like how we have Starbucks here and Chase Banks. They have hand job places. There's always a picture of this sad Asian chick looking to give you hand jobs everywhere. I got a little tie-in for our medical segment.

Sam's been avoiding this. He needs to go get a colonoscopy so I'm going to have him podcast while they're inserting the three-foot camera up your up by butt. Yeah, so you're just gonna like just play by play on it. That's just rude. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck five-star review. The five-star review. The five-star review by Magaline M.A.G. I.L. These guys, okay, I don't want rival J.R.E. And entertainment information value. We love Joe Rogan without him. I would be homeless. That's the truth.

Making me a believer by Russell Brain. Your podcast has really brought some things to my attention that I heard rumors about and saw in a doc. But the way you guys give a mixture of humor and seriousness into a podcast is outstanding. Keep up the good work, fellas, 100%. By the way, one of my favorite moments was when we made Jonathan laugh.

He laughed a couple times. That's a British fucking dude, laughing at our fucking knuckle dragger comedy. And speaking of laughing, if you guys have not seen the stand-up comedy documentary called Dying....................., th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi. to thi. to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And, thi. And, thi, th guys have not seen the stand-up comedy documentary called Dying Laughing. Have you watched it? Yeah, it's good. It's good, right?

You gave me some good advice in there that I've taken to heart. Really? Check it out. Sam's in there. I mean, shit. I mean, Jemmy Kennedy's in there. It's on Amazon if you have prime. Oh really? Yeah. It's not on, oh shit. I got it. No, it's fine.

It's not on Netflix yet? That makes me sad. Do you think it will be? Eventually, I'm sure. I mean, that's not a question for me. I hope it goes out. Why not? Guys, this has been a great podcast. We have actually the creator of the truth chamber on on YouTube and she's going to come in and she's going to talk to us about does

Donald Trump have a time machine. And a lot of you guys have been asking about a Las Vegas episode. We will do it. We'll figure it out Aaron's not comfortable with it. So we'll probably make it and Ryan's not comfortable with it. So maybe I'll just do it with We'll figure it out. Aaron's not comfortable with it. So we'll probably make it, and Ryan's not comfortable with it. So maybe I'll just do it with Tate, Fletcher, and he has somebody who's there who wants to come on and talk about it. I'll respect.

I just was in Vegas. It was by far one the hardest week's doing stand up. tho' that the tod only only only only only only only only only to to to to to to to to to tragedy, but also on top of that, someone I love very much, Ralphie May passed away, was not unexpected, but still sad when someone can't, when somebody so young passes away so early, but I gotta be honest with you, I was at the LA Comedy Festival, LA Comedy Club, and the crowds were so amazing. Matt Markman, all the local comedians came

and they hung out the whole week and it was it would it made an completely unbearable weekend. It got me through it man the crowds were some of the best I've ever seen and I'm so thankful to everybody I'm so thankful to Matt Wakim all at the club and all the staff and all the comedians who came out. You made a very hard week bear bowl. So I love you very much to everybody in Las Vegas. Thoughts and prayers? Any thoughts Ryan? No, it's been good. Thanks guys. I appreciate everything that you send to us at Tinfoil Hat Pod at Gmail. Keep on sending some ideas for future conversations and future episodes.

And whatever you guys want to see on Patreon, tell us, man, we're going to start doing that stuff, okay? We love you guys. Oh, thank you, Paint Minnesota for the $50 love on PayPal. to tiPayPoil to thinfoil to thoi. to thinna. thooo you you thoooooooooooo. thoooo. tooooooooooo. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. t. tod. thaa. thaa. thap. thap. thap. thap. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. And tha. And tha. And tha. And tha. And tha. And tha. And tha. And thathankful. You guys are the best. Love you guys. And go man. Tomorrow's the big live swap cast between the Timfoil Hat and... Hireside chats. We love you guys. Hope to see you at the Ice House tomorrow. Go to Ice House Comedy. Take care everybody.