Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - Tin Foil Hat #53: Mysterious Celebrity Deaths with Ron Placone

Episode Date: November 27, 2017

Thanks for listening to another episode of Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli. On this episode, Ryan and Sam welcome comedian Ron Placone. On this episode we discuss... 1) The Jimmy Dore Show 2)Net Neutrality 3) RT News 4) Marylin Monroe, The Kennedys and UFOs 5) Bob Marley, The CIA and Nazis 5) Kurt Cobain Please check out our Patreon Channel for premium content of the podcast, Patreon.com/TinFoilHat! Thank you for your support!

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I appreciate it. You know you brought up flat earth and I don't know if you knew but there was a flat earth convention in Los Angeles recently and well they were in Pasadena which is the neighborhood I live in and I was just going out to eat myself and coincidentally we went to the same place which ironically enough they chose a pizza place to have their food which I thought was like and I was like man If I was a server at this restaurant, I would probably offend a lot of people this convention Because I'd be like hey, here's your food that by the way is for sure round Yeah, totally round food that I'm serving you right now. It's round. Um, but uh, yeah, it's what's your take on that? thi. thi. th. their. their. their. thi. their. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their. their. their their thi. their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their th. their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their. thi. their. their. thi. thi. their. the. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. they. toe. they. they. the. the. the. the. they. th. their. th. th. th. th. I mean it's absurd. I mean like listen man, if I say it's absurd, I'm going to get nailed by a couple very passionate people. But there has to be, I don't believe

in flat earth. But I just feel like where there's smoke, there's fire, I mean there's something, something's going on. I mean, am I wrong? Like, we're going to start at GoFund me to get Eddie Bravo into space. There's smoke. There's all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's smoke, there's like, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, I. I. I. I, I's there's there's there's th. I, I's smoke. I's smoke, I's smoke, th. I's smoke, th. I's smoke, th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm smoke all right guys. Okay. But I mean, there's like, you know, like I believe in simulation theory, you know, there was that whole conference we talked about it where Neil Grossey-Tison had a bunch of scientists on researchers and the guy said that he'd gone so deep into like analyzing molecules and stuff like that? I know I'm butchering, but he's found binary code. Yeah, well, I mean, science is an evolving thing.

And that's kind of the beauty of all of it. And then to like question the evidence that's out there and to like dig deeper is kind of a natural human thing. Now, that being said, some people have latched on to some really out there stuff where you're like, ooh, I don't think so, buddy, sorry. And that's why I really love what you guys are doing. Oh, thank you. And you said this, like, so I'm kind of quoting you, like, you know, you're like, we're trying to take back, you know, the one thing to latch on to these out there things for whatever reason. It's another thing to like, think critically and dig deeper.

And the latter question everything. Question everything. I mean, I feel like if you're not doing that, especially in the world we live in. I mean, you know, you're talking about the news and politics realm where I dwell in at the corporate media is saying, and then dig deeper and find out what's really going on and get my eyeballs on as many firsthand documents as I can, because they're not telling you the full story.

That's just like a natural thing that I think everybody needs to do. It's sad we live in a world where you need to do it, but you do. So you know, I say yeah, you have to question everything. You have to dig deeper. It's unnatural not to. It is causing problems within my relationship with my girlfriend. She loves mainstream media. And I, because, you know, she's, you know, we're over 40, You know where so she's grown up in that era where you like She got like what was the golden years of you know the you know the 70s 80s of news Where like there was this integrity. That's what we thought so you trusted these guys and over time, you know as Reagan got rid of the rule where you had to have dissent another voice that? That would, you know, articulate the other side of the th, th, th.? th. the th. the th. the the th. the th. th. the th. the th. the th. th. the the the the the th. the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. thru. the thro. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. th. the. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the rule where you had to have dissent, another voice that would, you know, articulate the other side of the argument.

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Why? Because they get a lot of funding from people that profit off of that. You know, they don't get advertisements from oil and gas companies and advertisements from defense contractors because those companies want to get the word out and spread the word about what they're doing. Yeah, like it's not like the average consumer is like I might be looking for a tank. No, they buy that advertising so that they can get favorable coverage. They control the message. Yeah, I mean it's conflict of interest 101 that if other countries were doing it, we would probably use that as a reason to invade them. But when we do it, well that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the that's the. that's that's that as a that as a thi. thi. thi. thi. that as a that as a that as a that as a that as a that as a that as a that as a that as a that as a that as a that as a that as a thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiii. theaa thiiiiiiii. thiiiii. thiii. thi. thi. thi. that's just the free market baby. That's just capitalism. Oh, it's predatory. That's what it is.

And it's just weird, man. It's just like, sometimes I think we just live in this banana republic where it's just like there's so much corruption everywhere. I mean, it's at the highest levels, you know, I mean, this whole thing with net neutrality. And now you're finding that like that like that like that like that like that like th, like th, like th, like th, like th, th, th, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, thi, thi, thi, that's just thi, thi, that's just that's just that's just thi, thi, that's just thi, that's just that's just that's just that's just, that's just, it's just, that's just, that's just, thi, thi, th. th. th. It's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's just that's just thi. that's just thi. that's just thi. that's just thi. It's just thi. It's just thi. It's just thi. It'sality and now you're finding that like all the comments that are Anti-Net neutrality are all basically bots Right yeah well because I mean anyone that kind of looks into that issue I don't see how anybody could possibly For that I mean it's just the most when I see I mean and I'll be honest you know like we're all in the comedy world when I see comics being apathetic about it and I know that that's cool in comedy right. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I the th. I th. I th. I the th. I the the th. I the th. I the th. I the th. I the the the th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. When I see comics being apathetic about it, and I know that that's cool in comedy right now.

It's really cool to be apathetic and not care, even though you're not an actual nihilist, because you like your little bubble is the world. So you're not annihilist or don't. Well, hipsters, like they act like they don on that outfit. Right, right, right. So this whole... You can't uncoordinate that easily. You have to make sure nothing matches. Right. So it's like you do care. And if net neutrality goes, it's going to be so much harder. If you're any type of creative person, you should be out like going nuts about the idea of losing net neutrality. And if you're a consumer, you should be going nuts. I mean, pretty much anyone for these cable lobbyists that want to get rid of it, everybody should be you know fighting tooth and nail about the net neutrality thing right now. And hopefully the courts, hopefully the courts help us. Well I'm lucky that

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of the day, you know, it's like we had these amazing elections, these midterm elections and you know, all these different people got elected, you know, women, transgenders, all that. And that is awesome to me because they're not the sad quo. But at the end of the day, when that life-changing money gets thrown at you, you know, when you can make a lot of money playing ball with some people, what's your reaction going to be to that? Because at the end of the day, I don't care if you're taking cash, you're not helping the situation. Yeah, well, and this guy has been groomed for a long, long time. I mean, he was a lawyer for the telecom industry, and then they were just grooming him to be in this position, and he was recommended by Barack Obama. So yeah, I mean, it is, it really is just one big club. Yeah. And you know, I mean, you get you you you you you you you you you th. thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thus, thus, thus, thus, thi, thi, thus, thus, thus, tho, thoom, thoom, thoom, thoom, the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the to t. t. tha. tha. tha. tha. the the the the the that on surface level make these promises and it's up to you to hold them accountable.

We would have lost net neutrality the first time. Tom Wheeler didn't care that much. Tom Wheeler didn't want to go title to. The people twisted his arm until he had to. They twisted Obama's arm until he had to make a statement at the 11 the 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 the the the the the the the the the the the the people make the argument like, well, the FCC wants net neutrality because it allows them to overreach, no, it doesn't do that at all. It's just a title to designation, like phone calls or flowing water. So it doesn't give them power. In fact, they didn't want to do it. Why? Because at the end of the day, they're all cable lobbyists. Even Tom Wheeler had a background in thi, tho, th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's tho-a tho-a thi thi tho-a tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. It doesn't th. It doesn't th. It th. It doesn't th. It th. It doesn't th. It thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. It doesn't tho. It doesn't that. It's unbelievable. Yeah, like they just, he just wasn't groomed from day one, whereas AG Pi has no societal pressure

to do anything about that neutrality. So either one of those votes has got to flip or the court's got to like save the day at the end of it, which hopefully they will do, because just as recent as two years ago, they were like, yeah, clearly, yeah, yeah, appropriate here so well let's hope let's hope on that I want to get into before we get into what we're going to talk about I wanted to talk to you about how you got involved in a Jimmy Door show I love the Jimmy Doors show I get all my news from it I try

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And I would just go to open mics and you know, there'd be like six or seven comics. I would be like, yeah, we have no idea what you're talking about. So I started doing this little minicast segment of all like my kind of political stuff and I called it thoughts ransom cold coffee and my whole idea with it was I was gonna pitch it to other shows to use this filler content. Oh that's great idea. Yeah and it got it actually did help me a lot and it was a little different so I got on some pretty cool things and one of the things I got on was the David Packman show which at the time was on the Young Turks Network.

Around the same time, a comic name Lee Camp was... Great. Lease great. Lovely. Doing great work. Yeah, he is doing really, really great work. He's been on the show. Oh, cool.

I, I, I get upset when people try to dismiss what he's that it's Russian propaganda. And I'm just like, what did the Russians do? Tell me where this thing is that you are so anti this, other than being told to be anti that. Like, have you actually looked at the content and what's being said? And I'm like, I agree with 99% of it. I'm not going to agree with everything, because I'm a person, they're a person, we have different filters in which we... If there's ever a network where you agree with 100% of what's being said, there's something

wrong. That's just weird. I don't even agree with everything I say on this show. Sometimes like, oh, I shouldn't have said that. You know, you evolve, too. Oh, I mean, yeah, Ithat's just human nature too. But yeah, I mean, RTE is, yeah, I mean, that's a whole thing. I love what they're doing too.

And the whole thing of what they're facing, this is just modern day McCarthyism. This is just modern day xenophobia. That's all this is. You know, I mean, when it first came out. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I they're they're they're they're they're they're they're doing. I they're they're they're they're doing. I'm they're doing. I'm they're doing. I they're doing. I they're doing. I they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're doing. I they're doing. I they're doing. I they're doing. I they're doing. I they're doing. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I they're doing. I they're doing. I they're doing got to extend to CNN, to MSNBC, to Fox News. So what seems shadier to you? An American Bureau that has a foreign outlet influences? By the way, which by the way, there's... Is that Mockingbird?

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No, you're going to hear intelligent people pretend like they don't know what the heck it is because their paycheck depends on them not knowing what it is. So, I mean, what's more corrupt? Or you're owned by some media mogul, Rupert Murdoch, or you're owned by some guy that clearly only cares about advertising and ratings and has made that clear, like Jeff Zucker over at CNN? What sounds more shady to you? To me, garbage person. Very much so.

So, you know what, let's have all the disclaimers. Let's say, yeah, this is an American Bureau of a foreign outlet, which we do all over the world. We do in other countries. Other countries do it here. That's called spreading information, which is what we're supposed to do as humans, versus this corporateocracy that's illegal in other places and should be illegal here. I don't know how we got here, dude. It's just like we have allowed people to sell us out. We elect people fully believe in they're going to lie to us and not do anything.

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and all that stuff you know everything you read or everything you watch you got a filter through common sense man and I just feel that like there's a tie turning and this push for net neutrality and the censorship of Google YouTube and all that stuff is like it's a fight back to control the message. Oh, Big Time, man. This whole thing, I mean, the common theme here is this is an attack on independent media because the powers that be, they know they're losing their footing.

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to go to people like Juan Cole, people like these independent academics and peace activists, who goes to every war zone and tells people the truth. They have a calendar coming out. I'd like an Abby Martin calendar. But she's going to be an Aberka so, so no. I love her. That was a great episode. She's a hero. I mean, she is a hero. She is a hero. Her, Amy Goodman. I mean, I are are are are are are are are are th. I are th. I are th. I are th. I are th. I are th. I are th. I are th. I are th. I are their. I are their. I are their. I are their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their their their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I th. I th. I th. I true. I true. I true. I true. I th. I th. I th. I th. I their. I their. I their. I their. I true American heroes that are really just putting themselves in danger, literally risking their lives to tell the truth about something. Those are the people I want to hear from. Not someone in a $12,000 suit who's literally reading PRAR. There's too many conformists in mainstream entertainment right now. Too quick to jump through loops, too quick to give the industry what they want. I don't the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they. I tho tho tho. I thoe thoe. I thoe. I thoe. I'm thoe. I'm three. I'm thoom. I'm thoom. I'm thoome. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's, thoom. I. I's, th. I's, th. Ie. I's is is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I'm tree. I'm tree. I'm tree. I'm tree. I'm t. t. t. t. tr. tr. And. And. And. And. And. And, tr. And. And, t. And, t. And, t. And. And, true. And the industry what they want. I don't know where the rebels are, the bad boys, you know, it's like, I love being a shit-talker.

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And people appreciate it, and that's why they're moving to our show, your show, is because, and I learn this from listen to roen. It's like people want thap thap thu thu thu thu thu, and I thu, and I thu, and I thi thi thi thi thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thirty thirty thirty thirty their thirty their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, and I their their their their the, and I the isn't thean, and I thean, thean. thean thean thean thean. thean thean thean thean. thean thean their their brain. They want to be challenged. They want to try to work on a higher level. And you have a lot of people just giving them the dumb. Give them the dumb. Give them the dumb. It's like and that's they don't care. Like I tell people man. Don't expect television ever change. Don't expect them to suddenly change all their programming because the people at the very top who own big chunks of all these media they don't make their money in ratings and television and all that stuff that's not where they make their money okay their money really is

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if they gave a shit about ratings. Because nobody watches that show anymore because what they're putting out there isn't for anybody to consume. You know, when Prince died, they started playing all these videos of Prince and their rating shot up. And for a second, they're like, whoa whoa man, this is what we should be playing. And then, boom, they went right back to it. My day in the life of being a gay porn star, you know, and it's just like, that's fine.

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It is controlled by the top and than obvious here that this this dark hand that's involved in entertainment and why your show so important and other shows like you. Speaking of dark hands today, that was my segue into what we're going to talk about today. We want to get into mysterious celebrity or famous deaths but taking a little bit of a different take on it. So you guys have asked us to talk about a couple different characters throughout history, and I selected three in particular to talk about today that have some questionable and we'll figure out really, let's flesh it out, you know how we do it. So let's start back in the days when women were women.

And that's not saying anything against ladies now. So, so, Marilyn, the days when women were women and That's not saying anything against ladies now days So Marilyn Monroe when she was found dead in her home in 1962 it was ruled a probable suicide by authorities The 36 year old star of films like misfits and some like a hot had a history of mental illness substance, and her body was surrounded by pills. So not much different than ladies nowadays, yeah, seems like in the theater. Well, it's always, you always got to wonder when somebody's, you know, it's like, it's like, it's a very famous,

not the, you know, it's almost cliche, they suiied themselves. That's a big themselves, you know, it's like this amazing like this guy's suicide himself, oh you happen to have two shots in the back of the head, you know, it's just, it's interesting for sure. And she was like, she was the first of the modern like kind of empowered sexual, uh, sex objects kind of you see right now. I think probably more talented than let's say a Kim Kardashian or anybody like that but she was the first of of what would probably be like in everyday Jane who

kind of like made it to the top of the power chain you know she was hanging with some pretty powerful people man and that's a big thing it's like I always find interesting with women like women don't see like men see social structure hierarchy the way men do you understand I'm saying like we're all comedians here right if if Chris Rock walked in we know who the alpha okay yeah you know and we kind of by nature as men we fall in line once in a while you see a guy challenged the alpha but for thethe most parts, like Chris Rocks the alpha, we're gonna follow what he wants to do,

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but also were very dangerous people in the opponents that they had. And she got mixed up in all that. And I have a feeling, and I know we're going to, we're like about to dive into this next, but I have a feeling she knew more than we're ever going to know about. Like I have a feeling she knew, you know, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we're, and we're, and we're, and we're, and we're, th.. th. th. th. th. tol, tol, th. th. th. tod, thi, tho, th. th. th. th. th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, the, thro, thro. the. thea, thean, thro. thooo. thea, thoooo. tho. tho. I have a feeling she knew, you know, I mean, because, you know, and we talked about this off Mike too, when you talk about JFK, you know, and you want to talk about conspiracy theory, I will say this, in my lifetime, and I include like the most kind of, you know, like straight-laced, not questioning, thinking outside the box people I know, I don't you know, questioning, thinking outside the box people I know. I don't know anybody that buys the official JFK story. That's something where it's like you're

almost a radical if you do buy it, where if you're like, oh that's all there was. That is funny, there's nothing more. I don't know anyone. Do you? Well, you know, to be honest with you, I went home over summer to see my, see my mother and I have some friends who still live in the area that I grew up in and we had a little Paw while we all got together and one of our friends was getting pretty drunk and he's like very he's all for deregulation and all that stuff and and another buddy of mine is kind of becoming awoke and he was talking about 9-11 and they started going at it and he you know my buddy who wants deregulations totally believes the official narrative of that and then my one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one... the th. the the one one one one one one one one one. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. the the thi the thi thi the the the the the the. the. their their their the. the. their of the of the of thi gulations totally believes the official narrative of that. And then my one friend just goes, yeah, and he literally goes, Sam, Oswald shot Kennedy.

That's the real, I go, what? I go, what? I go, what? That's like, that's a white belt shit to me. Like, we talked about us on the show a lot. Everyone wants wants, everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone, like, like, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, tha. And, tho. And, tha. And, tho. And, tho. And, tho. And, tha. And, thi all conspiracies together. Right. So like you know, Moshe Cash keeps sending me like, he goes, what percentage of conspiracies do you believe in 5%? I go, that's doing disservice to it. There's levels of shit.

We were talking on the Patriot on the other day. You know, there's white belt all the way the JFK is the beginning. That is where we decide where we can go with you in the conversation. And if you believe that JFK was shot by a magic bullet, we can't really progress past. Yeah, like where can you, yeah, I mean, because, and honestly, I've never met this relative of yours. So, like, I've never met anybody, I've never met anybody. me like, me and my dad my dad my my my my my my my my my my my my my my th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that's that that that that that's that's that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. theee. th. the. the. the. th. the. that that that that that that that that that that over over Thanksgiving. And like this dump that just came out how like a lot of people I mean I get in and dated with people sending me stuff and I'm so thankful for it man. You know this Q stuff that's been going out. I got stuff about all the stuff he's gonna talk. I got a spreadsheet someone

sent me and I was like I get really nervous about that stuff but then I started seeing all the stuff you went came out and they went back to it all the information was in there I'm like holy shit some dude from the Navy sent me this thing but you know it's like we get a lot of information from other people I just I oh this whole thing with the dump now this thing came out with George Bush who like he said he said he wasn't there this the the there the th the th th in th in th in th in th in th in th in th th th things things things things things things things things things things th th th th in th thin out out out out out out out out out out th th th th thin out out out thin thin th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. thin th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thin thin the thin thin th. th. wasn't there, this memo's there, basically he said a letter, a handwritten letter, going, yeah, dude, or a typed letter, I am, I'm going to be in Dallas that time. Well, I want to, like, if somebody says, like, well, what conspiracies do you do and don't believe in, I think that's totally those things like, you know, you can't believe or not believe in evidence. That's why when someone says like, I don't believe in climate change, like, that's just a far sentence. You can't say that. You can say, that's why I'm happy we're at least starting to use the term climate denier. Yes. Because after you're doing, you're denied, there's all this peer-reviewed science, th. There, th. There, th. There, th. There, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's that's just that's just that's just just just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just just that's just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's just a that's just a that's just a that's just a that's just a that's just a that's just a that's just a that's just a that's just a that's just a that's just that's just just just just just I think that's made up or I think like whatever. So that you either dismiss some or you don't dismiss some or you kind of just look at things critically and you just kind of turn it over on its side.

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This show has taught me that to not emotionally shut down to any one thing. Right, that's the thing. And I see that a lot because what we do in this show and when I debate with people, because people love to debate me. I'm known as a conspiracy theory guy. And they love to debate me and they think it's funny. I'm almost like an animal to zoo. They want to come and see up on stuff. You know, they don't do any research.

I mean, how many people just really don't even read articles? They just read the title of the blog or the article and make up the story after that. They really don't look into it. So when people go, you know, wait, Josh Wolf, who's a wonderful comic, I talked about us last week, just walked in and started talking to me like, hey, how much you believe in this stuff? And he goes, well, for anything, anything you bring up, I can bring up this. I go, if you actually did the research,

you'd realize you can't just bring up that. That that wouldn't even make any sense. If you actually did the research, I don't comment on stuff that I haven't researched. Well, and you have to also be willing to evolve your hypothesis because the evidence out there is evolving. Right. So it's like, you can say, like, well, right now, I'm here because of what's available in X, Y, and Z, and this is why I'm here.

But if something else changes, well, then I would, you know, I would evolve on it. I mean, that's just how it goes. go. So it's not like... I've admitted I'm wrong on stuff. I've taken down stuff I posted because I realized it wasn't true or I didn't 100% believe it. And we've had to do, I mean, you know, we've had to follow up on stories at the Jimmy Dorshaw. I mean, we reported on something where there was this, um, there was this, um, there was this jogger that allegedly pushed thi.. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. We've thi. We've thi. We've thi. We've. We've. We've. We've. We've. We've. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I's. I I. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea. theeeeeea. th. theeeeeeea. th. th. the. the. Later they found out it wasn't. So we did a second story. We were like so update, found out it wasn't this dude. I mean that's just, yeah. That's how information works. Like, like, you know, you don't always know everything. So you say, this is still evolving. And I'm always, I try to be mindful of saying as of the recording of this, this is where we're at, when it's something that's really, you know, like the oil spill. Like I said, as we're recording this, this is where we're at. It's this many barrels, as of the recording of this, you know, like, because

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This is because Sam is, you are like the king of the trolls. You say you like to shit talk because you're one of them, you know what I mean? Like, I'd never say mean things anybody. You never comment meanly. You don't, you don't have like a fake name on YouTube. One time, no really teed off, like I'll go after people who go after my friends. Like I've have, you know, like Leslie Jones

or Melissa Vio Sr., or Steve Renizzi. These are people who had moments on the internet where everybody was attacking him. So I'll jump right in the fray and start, like that scene and Punisher where he's beating up all the contract guys, that's how I feel. Like I just got a sledgehammer and I'm fighting back stupid people. But I own my stuff, you know, I own it and you know if I'm wrong I'll apologize for it.

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So it's like, can you really complain? Well, this is my whole thing. It's just like, I don. Yeah, I get it man. I mean, like that's where we're getting with our politicians and we're starting to do with our entertainers where we're holding them up to this level of like, you got to be perfect that only like liars and scumbags can get through, you know? It's just like the candies were shady. They had super sex addictions, man. And like this isn't thukeck is is is is is the only the only the only the only the only the only their their th. th. thian. thirty is is thirty. thirty. thirty. thirty. thirty. thirty. thus. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. I that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thian, thi, th. We th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's where th. That's where that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's where we're that's where we're that, this isn't the only chick they might have killed. Yeah. They're saying that, potentially,

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And that was the beginning of the plot to assassinate him. Because he was, you know, like Kennedy, we talked about before, it was just like, I'm going to get rid of the mob. You're like, you just literally, you just made three really really big enemies and anybody i mean i'm pretty sure any president the challenge the fed wound up with a bullet in the head yeah and you know to me the nicest one out of those three is the mob

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This president, the late Marilyn Monroe. And I said, well, I didn't until I got this document. It's a virtual death warrant because she was found a couple days later. 3 August 1962, wiretap of telephone conversations between reporter Dorothy Kilgarnlion, who was looking into Roswell and other UFO issues, and her close friend, Howard Rothberg, from wiretap of telephone conversation of Marilyn Monroe and Attorney General Bobby Kennedy. Rothberg discussed the apparent comeback of the subject with Kilgallon and the breakup with the Kennedy's. This is referring to the fact that Marilyn Monroe had been having an affair with not one but both Kennedy brothers

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the candies were gangsters as much as we want to act like it was Camelot they were gangsters dude so I I wouldn't doubt it. I mean, I wouldn't doubt the space program. I've heard so much shit. What do you think? If I had to go somewhere, I would go CIA. Yeah, I don't think, yeah, I don't think it would be the mob. I think it would be she knew. Now, what she knew, there's a big plethora of stuff we could pick that she might have known about. I mean, so many things, but yeah, I think it was she knew too much. And she was very powerful. I mean, she had, she was an icon at this point. She was a pop icon.

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know you know about this. I don't know, you just don't show me enough attention. And she's calling your secretary complaining. Oh man. I don't know if I knew about UFOs, that might be my pickup line. Hey, uh, want to go to Roswell? I know a secret place. You want to know the truth about a lot of stuff. thia. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to thi. thi. to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. I. I. th. th. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. try. try. try. try. try. try. on to the next person, but that same meeting that we have where my one friend was like, Oswald shot JFK, another buddy of mine, he's like this door-to-door, he's not salesman, but he's like a district manager of, he installs certain things. I don't know if it's security systems or something like that, but you know he'll go around and see all the clients that the company has sold stuff. He's met a couple interesting people along the lines there and he told me two interesting

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and they just armed guards on them. And they had to back, the truck into the mount all the way down backwards only looking forward. He couldn't see what's on the side of them. Wow. So then recently this article comes out going mysterious base inside of a mountain and there it is the picture of it. It's right in the fucking mountain dude and that's where all the crazy shit goes down. I don't doubt it. Right? I do this. I do this there's no I keep hearing buzz. I there. I there in this the buzz the buzz there. I the buzz the buzz the buzz the buzz the buzz the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. I'm their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I'm. I. I. I. I. I'm. I the the the the the the the the. I. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I the. I the. I do this there's no I keep hearing buzz at some some big shit's about to happen with aliens and I wouldn't doubt it And by hearing what do you mean like the voices in your head that there's gonna be a What's it called they're gonna? Disclosure yeah disclosure Well since we're talking about icons this icon not because I just was a I used to be a super stoner but but I still love his music to this day. In the late 1970s, the island of Jamaica was flooded with cheap guns, heroin, cocaine, right-wing

propaganda and death squad rule as an attempt to destabilize and wreck the island economy and its people. Violence and drugs were a method of controlling and exploiting the lives and resources of the country. In response to this chaotic state of his country, Bob Marley wove his lyrics with a revolutionary crucifix to war it off the cloak and dagger vampires descending upon the island. He preached peace and sung songs about unity and love. Simply put one love. Yeah.

All right. So, a quote from Bob Marley, emancipate yourself from mental slavery. None but ourselves can free our minds. All right? On December 3rd, 1976, Bob Marley survived an assassination temp by three gunmen at his home in Hope Road, Jamaica. Just five years later, he was taken down by a malignant melanoma, originating in his toe.

As with many music star deaths, Bob Marley's passing has been shrouded in mystery and unanswered questions and conspiracy theories. So that was December 3rd, 76. On December 5th, two days after the assassination attempt, Marley played at the Smile Jamaica Festival in Kingston. Oh my God, man, I mean, I've had to perform after some tragedy. Could you go up and tell jokes jokes someone tried to assassinate you? With a bullet still in your arm.

The bullet was still in his arm. While the band was preparing for the festival performance, a gift addressed to Marley himself was delivered backstage. It was from a young American named Carl Cobey. Inside was a pair of cowboy boots. When Marley tried them on, something sharp inside of the boots pricked his toe. Oh my God! A length of copper was discovered embedded deep inside the boot. Many people believe the sharp wire contained a radioactive substance because it was the exact

toe that subsequently developed cancer. The gentleman Carl Colby was the son of William Colby, former director of the CIA from 1973 to 1976. Oh my. And he scored that photographer gig too, right? Like wasn't he was doing some kind of, he got in somehow. And if you hear interviews with that guy, he's totally dismissive, he doesn't take it serious at all. He never really, like he's just, um, And, you know, they ask him about this the the the this is the the this is the the the it serious at all. He never really like he's just um and you know they ask him about the boo. This is just a side note but yeah he's extremely not likable. Where you're like this guy is yeah, I don't like this guy.

He's very, very off pudding. Yeah, it's just it's weird like the hand that the CIA has in so much stuff, you know? It's just like there's always some weird kind of connection that they have, whether it's stars. Like we've talked about Jim Morrison and like that whole rock era and how like the CIA had fingerprints all over it. They would, you know, we had Lerian last week in like, you know, the grateful dead and like what role they had and like just spreading LSD and the hippie culture and like the CIA? Yeah, so this guy this photographer is his dad's ahead of the CIA? You could do anything at that point. If your dad's ahead of CIA, you could become a rapper.

I could become a rapper. I'd be like, dad make me a rapper. And all of a sudden I'd be on like every billboard, I'd be wrapping on every, it's so interesting. So why would they, why did they want him dead, do you think? Well, if he's all about peace, love, and unity, and they're all about fear and destabilization, and he's about gonga, and they're about heroin, crack, and the hardcore shit, they basically, it's as simple as they have opposing models of... Is it just get rid of the opposition? Well, oh, sorry, I was just going to say, like, this is another guy where it's like tying it into kind of like JFK and all that.

This is another dude that was kind of like making some powerful, I don't know if enemies, but some powerful opposition, over in Jamaica, the conservative party, because, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, th.......... And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, and, and, and, and, and, th. And, and, th. And, and, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. Jamaica, the conservative party, because like there's speculation, it was the conservative party that went after him because, you know, it kind of seemed like he was endorsing, you know, the PNP, which was like the social, the Democratic Party. Yeah. Whereas he was just kind of playing a concert for peace. That was how it was sold to him, allegedly. But, you know, apparently that made the other party mad because Jamaica was kind of a

two-party system, to my knowledge still is, but, um, so he had like this whole idea of like think for yourself, you know, like be yourself, peace, harmony, love, you know, that's a tough sell anywhere to this day. Is that really over there? Right, exactly. to this day but it's not really over there right exactly but like hey dude we should just all get along bow yeah right you know it's just it's crazy you're dangerous in the song war it says straight up lyric from the song war that until no longer first class and second class citizens of any nation until the

color of a man's skin is no more significance than the color of his eyes me say war so he's all about, I mean, peace, peace has never been a popular thing in the government. I don't know if there could ever be peace. Like a lot of people say this is the most peaceful it's ever been in the world and you think of all the wars going on? Because people have been badly. I just don't know if you, I want peace. I, I, I the peace, I the peace, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. thi, th. thi, thi, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, is, is, is, is, is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thee is the is the is the is the is the. the wars going on because people have been battling. I just don't know if you want peace. I wish people didn't fight, but I think whenever you got alpha males, there's always going to be people wanting to be the top dog. And it's just weird that that is a message. And how many people who have pushed peace have died? I mean, John Lennon, right? I mean, it's crazy. I mean, and here's another good quote from him and someone I'll leave off with, better to die fighting for freedom than be a prisoner all the days of your life. So, but that's not where the story ends, all right?

So, I want to ask some real quick before we go on with him. Do you ever worry, you know, a running joke on this thing is that like, my girlfriend literally says it to, are, I, th... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. to to, th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to be to be, to be, to be, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. th. to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to this thing is that like, my girlfriend literally says it to, we have people visit us, our life's in danger with what you're talking about. Do you ever worry about what, is there any even jokes about like, oh man, you know, when you see the Clintons taking out everybody left and right, you know, we had talked about how like, I know you guys have talked about it, but we've talked about like the 10 or 11 bodyguards have died and everybody who brings up stuff about the Clintons have died and you know

we hear all these people that might have some information, putting out information, have died. Do you ever worry about that with the Jimmy Dorshow. I need to get a bigger Twitter following is a giant like going against the military industrial complex and the two-party system which they've enjoyed for the last 200 years even though it's the parties changed but that's pretty much it. You know right versus left and the fight then we realize they're all it's two heads of the same snake. Do you ever worry about that? Like I know you maybe not you but Jimmy the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. to. to. thi. thi. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. thi. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. t. to. t. to. te. to. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t's two heads of the same snake. Do you ever worry about that? Like I know you, maybe not you, but Jimmy, does he ever bring that up?

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They are paid to throw the fight. Yeah. That's what is. So go on what you are talking about Bob Marley. So in a variation of this urban legend, the CIA also attempt would succeed. The last six months of his life, he was in the hands of a doctor Joseph Isles, a German holistic, comprehensive immune therapist. Because he's Rastafarian, he didn't use any modern science, you're not supposed to cut into your flesh, you don't shave your beer, you don't cut your hair. So he had to go the more herbalist way, I guess you would say. Oh my God. So he was getting

treatment in Jamaica and then he was referred to this doctor in Bavaria. When the doctor met Bob for the first time he was quoted saying, I hear you're I hear that you're one of the most dangerous black men in the world. What? Well and this guy had a weird history too man. I mean he was involved with the Nazis and stuff like this was th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi he he he he he he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he was he was thi hea. I was he was hea. I was hea. I was hea. I was hea. I was hea. I was hea. I was hea. I was hea. I was. I was. I was. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I too, man. I mean, he was involved with the Nazis and stuff. Like, this was not a dude that it's like, yeah, like, I don't know why there wasn't, like, like Bob Marley's wife or something that was like, we have to, this isn't okay. I know this guy has some experimental methods that you want to try, but we gotta, I'm not comfortable with you being alone with this guy. I mean, it was weird. It was very, very strange. And just the way that he got the cancer and the way it spread, I mean, the only kind of

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There was no evidence that these treatments, quote-unquote, were effective against the cancer. Marley weighed 82 pounds on the day of his death, May 11th, 1981. He was 36, like you said. The starvation diet must have devastated his immune system. Oh my God so yeah when you go somewhere you're just trusting the guy. Back in the day Bob Marley was unaware of his physicians passed. Dr. Isles was rumored to be a former SS Nazi doctor assigned to Auschwitz concentration camp working alongside the infamous Dr. Joseph Mangala. Oh my God! Yeah man. Also known as the angel the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the working alongside the infamous Dr. Joseph Mangala. Oh my god.

Yeah, also known as the Angel of Death. Yeah. Like we've said in this show, the Nazis didn't get defeated. They just entered an expansion draft and everybody drafted them. And apparently the Bahamas got a doctor in like the third round. Not saying German, and nowadays German doctors are probably like the third round. Not saying German, and nowadays German doctors are probably like the smartest and best besides maybe Indian doctors. Whenever I go to the doctors and I see that it's like a straight up, there's no accent.

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They're saving our democracy. From who you know? I don't even know what they're protecting anymore. Is it just bankers? Like. I don't even know what they're protecting anymore. Is it just bankers? Like, it's anybody benefiting from the oligarchy. I mean, that's really at the end of the day. And it seems like this is one of those. Is it international aligarkey?

It's not even just United States. Of course it is. I mean, that's the thing. that we keep coming back to like the whole Russia thing. It's like I mean that's another thing. It's like the theme of all this stuff with Trump and with everyone else is that oligarchs cooperate with each other. They exchange, you know, beneficial stuff and they have no allegiance to citians. They don't give a shit about you, they don't give a shit about me. That's the only theme we can take from all this. Does Trump do corrupt stuff with Russian oligarchs? Of course he does. Yeah, that's the whole thing. He does corrupt stuff with other

oligarchs. You know who else does that? The Clintons, the Obama's, Republicans, Democrats. That's the game. And to make it out like everything else is hunky-dory is just, it's delusional. It is, and it's just like, I don't know why people can't see that. Why can't you see that at that level, they're all the same. I mean, when you see a picture of the Clintons and the Trumps at the same wedding, how do you not go, what the fuck is going on here? When you have something in common with someone, up. Us being redheads, I know how it is. You see another redhead out there on the street to kind of give like the little secret wink. Yeah, like, hey, we're going extinct in 30 years.

Yeah, if you have a waiter, a waitress, they're a bartender, they'll hook you up. And you be like, what's this for? And you know what it is. I see you interact with Armos. No, I'm not Armenian enough. I'm literally Boba Fett dog. I am a lone assassin. Just, I'm Ronin' dog, Roan in the streets, roam in the street, fighting the fight. So yeah, should we move on to the third? Let's do the third. All right. Kirk Cobain left Exodus Recovery Center, a drug rehab center in Marina Delray, California on April 1st, 1994 and was later reported missing.

On April 3rd, Tom Grant, a former detective from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. Now a California state licensed private investigator was hired by Courtney Love, who was in Los Angeles at the time to locate her husband. On April, full disclosure, I hit up Tom Grant to come on the show. Didn't hear back from them. And that's always a problem when your show is called Timfoyle Hat. People have a negative connotation with that sometimes. They don't think we're fucking professional like a boss like we are.

It's funny because we know people in recovery and have gone to rehab centers. It's called exodus, which means evacuation or departure. I don't think you really, you should have more of like a stay here, get it all done. You don't want to- It's so weird, man. So on April 8th, 1994, Kirk Cobain, the lead singer of the grunge band, Nirvana was found dead at his home in Seattle, Washington. Forensic analysts at the time determined he had killed himself on April 5th. Another suicided.

The shotgun, a Remington model 11-20 gauge, was not checked for fingerprints until May 6, 1994, a month later. According to the fingerprint analysis, four latent prints were lifted, but were unusable. Yeah, I mean, like here's the thing about police officers, they're like anybody, like we just talked about your doctors. You just assume they're the best of the best. And at the end of the day, they're just fucking people, you know? And they have their problems too, you know? They have bad short-term memory, they have chronic halitos, you know, they whoever's solving your murder, you might not have the A-Team. You might just have whatever team was available at that time.

Well, now it's like one of those things, because this one, I mean, full disclosure, I'm a huge Nirvana fan. So I've read all the books, I've watched all the documentaries, and because when I was a kid, of course I didn't want to believe that my favorite musician killed himself. So I used to be really, really into it. You know, now as a grown man, I'm a little more like, well, but I mean, the idea that, you know, proper police work was not done is, of course, just an assumed thing, where it's like, yeah, of course they didn't.

And now they want to cover up any potential negligence by being like, oh, well, of course, it was suicide of, and I'm not saying like, it definitely wasn't. I don't know if we'll ever really know for sure. Right. But there are some really big bullet point, you know, overlooks that happened there. There were some weird accounts out there. There's a guy named El Ducay that claimed Courtney love, o' their name. And he had another name of somebody else that it it it, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it, like, it, it, like, it, like, it, it, like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, like, it, it, thi, it, it, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, it, it, and I th. And I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I'm not thi, and I'm not thi, and I'm not thi, and I'm not thi. And I'm not thi. And I'm not thi. And I'm not thi, and I'm not thi, claimed Courtney Love, offered him money, and he had another name of somebody else that was like a potential gunman. Shortly after he gave that interview to Nick Brumfield who was making the documentary Kurt and Courtney, he winds up dead, he winds up dead under some weird circumstance, allegedly it was a train

accident. I mean there's some really weird stuff surrounding because again this is a guy that got a lot of power that he'd never thought he'd ever have in his life. I lived in Seattle for three years. I know people that knew Kurt Cobain just as a dude like a buddy of mine used to sell him guitar strings and he was like he was just this unassuming guy. He used to love to go to the comedy underground until he started getting recognized in public too much. That's another thing, like Kurt loved comedy. That's why Bobcat Goldwait got to open for them for a bunch.

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I mean, there's a lot of really peculiar points in this. You have the note right here, right? Yeah, if you could see it, there's actual photos of it online for the note. And the weirdness is the note was addressed to Kurt's wife and daughter. It was not addressed to them, I mean. It says nothing about killing himself. This note was clearly written to Cobain's fans telling him he was quitting the music business. There is only a short footnote to Courtney and Francis that the handwriting

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had talked about doing he was getting bored with Nirvana but and then all the sudden just at the end it's like oh keep going Courtney keep going Francis and it was just this weird shift in tone that was peculiar. And what they don't talk about is Courtney Love was facing a divorce. Kurt was in the process of leaving Seattle and his wife when he was found dead. Courtney knew that court wanted out of the marriage just prior weeks before his death, she asked one of her attorneys to get the meanest, worst, vicious divorce lawyer she could

find. And the other thing, it's pretty trippy that you never really hear too much about, is someone was using Kurt's credit card. One of Kurt's credit cards was missing when his body was discovered. Wow! Someone was attempting to use the missing credit card after Kirk Obane died, but the attempts were stopped after his body was discovered. That's something that's really left out. It's one of those like, you don't leave a paper trail or a digital trail behind.

Yep. That's crazy, dude. So Tom Grant, he began to publicly speak out in December of 94 about the suspicious circumstances surrounding Cobain's death. He believed Kurt Cobain's death is a conspiracy. And let me get on the conspiracy. The term conspiracy is merely a legal term describing a planning or plotting of a crime by two or more persons. Conspiracy crimes that are federal can include conspiracy to engage in criminal activity,

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Well Tom Seagora's got that great bit about the first 48 and it's like 48 hours and then they're like, yeah, I guess we didn't solve it and they move on to the next one. Yeah, well, and you don't want to admit to a mistake, you know, I mean a lot of people say well he's an opportunist and stuff like, you know, I understand how you could you know make that case But I mean the guy's website looks like it's from 1995 I mean, I think if he was really raking in the cashier he would It'd be a little more like like a parent that that was happening. It doesn't seem like that's the case for this guy and now he has this this kind of stigma attached to to to to th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi the the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I the the the the. I the. of stigma attached to him. I mean, you know, and I don't think we know the truth one way or the other. I hope someday we find out, but I do think that these people that are really wanting to investigate this, I do think they truly are convinced that there is more to this and there's some very peculiar to it. Yeah, I mean, I think, I think, I th th th th think, I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thin thin thin thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi? I Yeah, I mean, I think there's definitely some peculiar points that we still need to research

Like like that sir, that still need to that the case needs to be reopened Right, you know, like there's some inaccuracies in there like that we just talked about like there's just so many points Where it's like, yeah, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, they, they, they, they, there's there's there's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, there's there's there's there's there's there's there's just, like, like, like, there's just there's just there's just there's just there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's just, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, there's just there's just there's just there's just, there's there's there's there's th. th. There's just, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. There's just th. There's just th. There's just th. There's just th. There's just th. There's just th. There's just there's just there's just there's just there's just there's just there's just there's just th. There's just say that this is an open and closed book one way or the other, you know. Now, there was a, and I don't know if you're getting into this, but there was some pedogate connections to this stuff, right? Have you heard any of this? There's a lot of rumors, and that's a hard one to try to pinpoint, but the idea is that maybe Kurt stumbled upon that his managers and people involved in vana in the higher-ups, he basically might have discovered that they were using young Nirvana fans in very sexual ways and he had this guilt. So there's like ideas that he might have knew too much. Like that's kind of what's going the theme with all these people, they kind of knew too much, or they were going to speak out and we can't have people telling secrets.

I mean like the grunge scene and like rap, I mean they've lost so many of their stars, right? It's just, and they all die in the same kind of weird way. Rappers through gunfire and then grunge guys through, I mean, who's the last guy, I mean who's the last guy, Eddie Vedder. Well, and they both started out as movements that never predicted what was going to happen, what happened. I mean, you know, Kirk Cobain, Nirvana, I mean, you know, like this stuff was kind of going on, it was mostly existing on college stations and stuff like that, and then you get this really

good three-piece out of Seattle that's not afraid to just throw a couple more pop hooks in there and all the sudden they unseat Michael Jackson, hair metal is dead in its tracks. I mean it was just it was just a trippy thing that nobody could have called and same with hip hop I mean you know last poets were around back in the 60s and these people were you know not getting any of the the that was out for 10 years before it blew up like that album was't brand new when America got behind it. It had been out for, I don't know if it's 10 years, but it was out for quite a long time. And then people discovered it. That, you know, it's like, I remember I did acid at Lala Paloza and I got to see Pearl Jamm Sound Garden, you know, all at one. It was amazing. So it's just one of those things, of course power has the potential to corrupt, you know,

does that mean that Kirkomain's death was a conspiracy? Well, maybe, maybe not. But, you know, there's definitely plausibility that something like that could very easily happen, and there's some very, you know, striking elements in all this that are still unanswered and and they're they're striking enough that it's like well we need you know people should know the answers here and we still have not gotten yeah and I don't know if you ever get them I mean I think maybe we should just hope that um that what let's go Aaron we got something special I made something very special for you this episode I don't know where it is though I just sent it to you you th th th the the the you the the the the the to you the the the the the the the the the to the the th th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I to th I th I th. the the thi thi the the. the. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. th. I'm th. th. th. th. I'm th. th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. thi. they they're they're they're they're they're they're th episode. I don't know where it is though. I just sent it to your email. Okay, all right. It is, I don't know, maybe we should take retired

like old criminal detectives and give them something to do where they can just go try to try to solve cases that are cold. Cool. I mean, hey, that's happening now. That's happening now with people like Bill Benny and people like, you know, other intelligence professionals that are kind of doing their own late work about what's going on in the world because everything's just getting so off the rails and ridiculous. Yeah, and if you take anything away from this episode, listen to more Bob Marley and listen to more Nirvana in that exact order. Amen. They're both amazing. Yes. I got to to to to to to to to to to to to their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thoe, th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. thi. the. the. the. the. the. theateatea. theeatea. thea. theea. their their their their their their their their. Amen. They're both amazing. Yes. I got to expose myself, re-expose myself to stuff I'd fallen in love with years ago. Now here's everybody's favorite part of the show and it actually has its own theme song now.

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Why God! The Lord told me to tell you, Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wait, wait, wait, wait, so I strongly suggest that you wake the fuck up. Get filthy animal. It's time for thoughts, Aaron! I really appreciate opening with Quatto from Total Recall. I knew that. I really appreciate opening with Quatto from Total Recall.

I knew that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I mean, I'm all for conspiracy and Kirk Cobain's death. I think that is fishy the way that they do it. I think the Seattle police chief has since said, like, I didn't look into this enough. I apologize. Yeah they're slowly starting to admit some fault but it's been like yeah. Yeah Marley could have just not treated a thing that was wrong with him like he just it's oh it's

on my toe whatever. You don't want to go those voodoo doctors dog yeah well yeah there was like had he amputated that toe he might have been fine yeah so there's definitely I mean there's there there there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's a there's a there's there's there's there's there's there's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th the the the the the the the I thooooooooooooooooooooo they they they the the they the the definitely, I mean, yeah, there's a lot of peculiarity, but yeah. Marilyn Monroe, thoughts, Aaron, who killed him? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Okay.

Who's to say? Who is to say? Ron, Placone. tockon. . I would have you on a t. Real quick, where can they find you? Follow me on Twitter at Ron Placone.com is my website. Should have some tour dates up soon for 2018. You can catch me on the Jimmy Dorshow and I have my own podcast on music and politics.

It's called Five Chords in the Truth. And it's about music and politics. Yes, sir. Oh, that's great, man. Well, honestly, I didn't know you were a stand-up. Now they know that, I'd love to get you in some of my shows I'm producing. I would love that, too. And we'll do some tinfoil hat shows, too. We're trying you put in the show guys thanks for supporting the show thanks for listening I hope you guys enjoyed this and we

got some great guests at December will be a December to remember we got a lineup of great people thank you guys for tuning in and we will see you next time take care by guys There's nothing else. Yep. Okay.