Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - Tin Foil Hat #54: Net Neutrality and Libertarianism with Dave Smith

Episode Date: December 8, 2017

Welcome to a passionate episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. On this his episode, Sam and Ryan welcome from the Legion Of Skanks' Dave Smith. This episode we discuss.... 1) Dave's stand-up special "Libertas" 2) Artist taking back power and the death of corporate entertainment 3) Libertarism 4) Striving for peace 5) The ineffective "War On Drugs" 6) Net Neutrality & The FCC 7) Corporations vs The Government 8) S.720 - Israel Anti-Boycott Act Thank you for your support. For bonus content please check out Patreon.com/TinFoilHat!

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ahead and email us at tinfoil hat podfoil Hat. Come with me into the waters of conspiracy with Sam Tripoli. Sam Tripoli. Sam Tripoli. Mr. Sam Tripoli. With my friend Ryan Davis. Ah, hi, Ryan. We're the first gay couple of conspiracy theory. I think it's beautiful, man.

I don't know, look their partner. It's some mystical deep dark realm, crazy shit. Wake up, Aaron, the vampire will be born in here. Hey, man, where's the truth there, dog? Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Are you ready to get your mind blown? Yes! Yes!

Yes! After much chaos, the show is live. Guys, thank you for tuning in a tinfoil hat. As always, I'm here with my partner in crime, the one only off the grid. Ryan Davis, everybody. Let's do this. And then, of course, everybody's favorite skeptic Aaron. Hey, guys.

People don't understand the chaos that just happened before it's on on how cool and collected we are. Guys, big tour next week, big tour next week. That's right, it's the Social Justice Warriors World Tour of Texas. I'm with Jim Florentine, Brody Stevens, Chad Zumaq and myself. We're doing San Antonio on Thursday, December 14th at the Blonde Tiger.

Sam Marcos, Friday, December 15th at the Aquabrew, Houston, September, I mean Saturday, December 16th at the Secret Group, and we're finishing out in Austin, Sunday, December 17th at the Cap City Comedy Club. And I have more dates coming up that you can go check out Sam Tripoli.com for all those dates. Oh yeah, in Tampa, I'm doing New Year's at the Improb. Come Get Weird, Home Boy. There's always swingers that like to come see me. There's always swingers that come see me.

Ryan, we have four shows coming up in a row that I'm super excited about starting with our guests. I mean, when this show is starting to get where I want to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the their their their their their their their their their their's improv their's improv their's improv at their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their have on today. I mean, when this show is starting to get its legs and starting to get where I want to be, where you want to be, you work very hard in these episodes, I'm super excited about how we're going to finish in 2017, bringing it into 2018, and we really appreciate everybody's support. The show has grown exponentially, and we're only going to keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger so I'm super excited about that. We have a great guest on, he's a very hilarious guy.

I worked with him recently in New York and I'm really excited to have him on and I'm really excited to have a talk about his political views and his take on net neutrality. You might not know him as a comic but here's a great clip from his, what's his album? Libertas. Libertas. So here's a quick clip and we'll... You ever see a Donald Trump speech? Here, next time you do, notice this.

Here's something you'll hear Donald Trump say, you'll never hear another politician say this, their times, okay? You'll just hear Trump in a speech and he'll say this, he'll go, what else? What else? What else? Because he doesn't even know what else we're going to talk about today. This is a journey that we're all on. The audience participates sometimes, like, he'll be like, what else? And then someone's like, China, and he's like, China, and then, then he'll just do 20 minutes on China. And you're like, I don't even think we were going to talk about China today. This guy just changed the whole thing. Now, that's in the news forever.

It's amazing. It's a really great clip that we just played basically about Donald Trump basically being an improvver of comedy stand-of-comedy and political commentary one of the most handsome of the Legionist skinks please welcome to Tinfoil Hat podcast Mr. Dave Dave how are you thank you for dealing with our chaos buddy. No problem, man. I'm happy to be here.

Thanks for having me. Thanks for having us on. We appreciate it. A lot of, I gotta expand this. Here we go. How do we expand this? I feel like I'm trying to teach my grandparents how the, ah, bam, look this. Teens, Skype is getting it. Thanks for coming on, man.

I really appreciate it. We met a little bit at Skank Fest. Was that the second Skank Fest or the third one? That was the second one. And the second one. What a great event you guys packed it out. It was a lot of fun. It was a pleasure to meet you and just see your crew and I got to do the the Desquad Legion of Skates Come Together show which was a lot of fun. Lewis Gomez booked

me and when I got booked I got booked on the newcomer show the new comics I got six minutes on a fucking Sunday and I got a giant ego but I had to eat it and I I think Kim Kong it was nice enough to tell them i'm i steal souls but uh... it was fun to work with you and uh... how long is the skanks been going i mean that's a great name that too i mean like it's just seems like you guys have really hit your stride and all you guys are doing some amazing shit right now Oh, well, thank you. Yeah, I mean, we've been doing the podcast for like five, six years, but it was like, you know, like the first, the first few years of it, no one was really listening and then it's really over like the last couple years that it's, it started to really

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you know, it's like, to me, Comedy Central made like a concerted effort to be like, we're going to the left wing nerd direction. And the ratings, and the ratings, and the ratings, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, there's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I I I, thi, thi, thi, I I I, I, I, thi, thi, I I I I I, I, th. I I I I, th. I I, th. I I I th. I th. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr. thr. thr. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. thi, thi, th and and the ratings have plummeted and it's like I like that in this kind of the hyper political correct world that we live in it's like I can just talk directly to my fucking fans and not really have to worry about any of that shit well that is the great thing I talked to a lot of my friends like I talked to Theo Vaughan a lot of sometimes I love him I love him to the the the to the to to the th you th I th I th I love I love I love I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love him I love to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. thi I love he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he the th he he th he th he th he th th th th th th th th th th th th to love him I love love him to love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love. to love. to to sometimes I got to talk that guy off a ledge because he doesn't realize how good he has it. And he's like, you know, he's an older, he's not an older comic, but he's not this millennials. That like, like he comes from a time where like making it is, you know, doing a tonight show set, then touring through improvs and they gotta be improvs because that's the big club. And if you don't do improvs, that's not real shit.

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Yes, he had news radio, but everything came after that. But and he had the UFC, which really helped. But that dude's career does not ab and flow with anything. It doesn't have to have a TV show that does well. These guys will stay with him to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, thoom. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho. And, tho. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, tho, tho, tho. And, the. And, the. And, too. And, too. And, the. And, thooooooooooo. And, the. And, to have a movie that does well. These guys will stay with him to the end of days, man. It's a weird kind of like almost Polly Shore career where it's like, you know, there's still people go see Polly Shore from those movies. Still go fucking see it. And he's got a following that will stick with him. That's why you're not going to see a lot of these like these one one wonders anymore. Because, the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their. their. their. their, their, their, like, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. their their thi. their fucking fans whereas before hey you have one hit the next one was a good you got fucking cut off from radio and television and you disappeared and now you're doing front desk at some fucking hotel right it's totally changed where do you see

comedy going where do you see the internet and comedy all going in like five years ten years and all that stuff well I think it's gonna go to a to a really beautiful place if the government the government the government the government the government the government the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theeeeeeeeeeeeeean. theeean. theeeean. theeeeeeean. theee an the i think it's going to go to a really uh... beautiful place of the government stays the fuck away from it uh... i think it's uh... as long as we keep the internet free and not in like the fucking government sense of the word free but like actually away from the state uh... i think i think i think it's going there are the like Uber political correct micro-aggressions culture. There's a whole lot of people who are fed up with that shit and who just want to hear like

from honest people. And I'll tell you, it's a really, you know, you mentioned Rogan's podcast. It's like, it's a really interesting dynamic where like, you could go, you know, you can turn on like Fox News or CNN or some shit like that and you get these hacks talking in 30 second sound bites saying absolutely nothing. So many of those and I know these guys like so many of those guys could not talk for three hours intelligently about this shit. It's a whole different level that it takes and now it's like I mean it's it's way bigger than comedy I think I think like the universities are being undermined as like the center of education and now there's all these really smart people like learning everything they need to from the internet and i think i think it's got you know it's got potential to be like a

really beautiful thing i think it is uh... it is level freedom the only thing you have to do is be willing to spend time to go on get it you're like there's so much amazing knowledge out there music entertainment music, entertainment, but some people don't want to go get it. And that's why, like we're blessed, we're comedians, you know, that we have time in our hands that we can go through the subreddits, the internet, to find all this stuff. I feel like some people, they've spread themselves so thin and it's probably been done on purpose by just getting everybody to get married, have two kids, have a mortgage, have a car, have all that shit, get retirement, and you got to have three jobs to pay for all that.

Is there the time to go out and lose, learn all this information? Well, no. So now you turn on to something that you thought was over time, this news media was to trust. And there was a time thi thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thus thus thus thr- thrust. thrust. thrust. thrust. thrust. thrust. thr- thr-a thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. Is. Is. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr. thr. thr. too. too. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Is. Is. Is. Is the. Is thr. Is thr. Is that you could trust it. And we'll get into that because I know you're, I'm, are you a deregulation guy? Yeah, across the board. So we'll get into a deregulation of the media and what that has done to the media. And you know, so now you, you see these guys and they're owned by six people, and to know. And you don't really have time to fucking, you don't really have time to check out what the fact checked what these people are saying. So you just kind of run with it.

I think that's right. I think that's absolutely right. It's like, it's kind of just the division of labor. Like everybody's got to You know, I'm like completely obsessed with politics, but I have no idea like how food gets made. I don't know how it goes from like a farm to a butcher to my grocery store. I have no idea. And thank God there's some other people out there who fucking know how that works. Because if everyone's obsessed with politics the way I am, we'd all fucking starve to death. You can't be a fucking, you know, it's like you can't be a jack of all trade of everything. You know, you gotta kind of be a master of something.

You've chosen politics. Now, a lot of times in comedy, they're like, don't talk religion, don't talk politics. But what I found is that crowds actually appreciate some real talk. And they want to hear some real shit. Your thoughts on thoats. Your thoughts on the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi. I. I. I. I's tho tho tho ti. I'm ti. times times times times times times times times tho times times times times times times times times times times times times times times times times thi. thi. times thi. thi. times thi. thi. times times thi. times. times. times. times. times. thi. thi. tho toda. tho tho-a. tho-a. thooooo-a. thoooooooooooooooooooo is you're on? I see you're on like a lot of these political talks. I think that's fucking great man. I think that's great. What was the reception to it? It's pretty good. I mean I think if like you know I'm certainly not in line

with Fox News I mean like my biggest issues are like I'm like anti-war, like hardcore, anti-war, anti-war on drugs, you know, a lot of shit that doesn't really line up with them. And then when I'm on like CNN and stuff like that, it's like a lot of my shit doesn't line up with them because they think, you know, the greatest tragedy in the last 20 years is Trump tweeting something offensive. Right. And I think that's interesting on those shows and they do value that and they're they're competing that with people online like the interesting thing with Fox News is that Fox News has had a monopoly on anything that's like

like right-wing news right for decades right so everything else there's like the whole establishment news and then there's Fox news not I'm not crediting Fox news like they're great or anything. I mean these motherfuckers have gotten us into these disastrous wars and right, right. But their mouthpiece as well. As much as you can say it for MSNBC, you can easily say that for absolutely. For you know, Foxx as well. Right, but what's happened to them is that now they have competition and their competition isn't MSNBC and CNN. Their competition is like, Bright Bar, Ben Shapiro, you know, like, fucking Joe Rogan, man. Like, it's like, that's their competition now.

So now they've got to like try to win audiences and they have to try to keep it interesting. And I think I at least, you know, that gives me a little bit more value. Well, you're a content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content content. in the moment which is what those people can't do. There was a great serenitite live sketch a long time ago Will Farrell when the teleprompters went off and they didn't work and just fucking everybody went caveman and he ends up killing the fucking weatherman. These guys read off of screens and shit like that. Now there's a lot of people go crazy. I gotta get your thoughts before we get into the we wanna talk about a little libertarian.

I get accused of being a libertarian sometimes. And I'm gonna start off by saying I'm Ronan dog. I through learning this podcast, through doing this podcast and learning everything, I don't join groups at all. I don't want to join groups. But why get your thoughts on Owen Benjamin. I know he's done a couple things with you before,

and I wanted to see what your thoughts on him are. I love Owen, man. I think he's hilarious and I think he's fucking, you know, a balsy dude makes really good points. I think he does make good points. I, is he gone crazy though? I mean, he seems to, I mean, I just saw the Hitler the ha, the ha, the ha, the ha, thua, thua, thua, thua, thua, thu. thu. thi, thin, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thin, thin, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, thi.... thi. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th. th. th. th. th. tho. th. thoo. th. th. thoo. I tho. I'm tho. I think, I'm, I'm, I'm, I mean I just saw the Hitler mustache thing and listen dude I'm not there you go with that man you know I'm not like that but it's just like man he's dropping super hard and and bombs and you know and all

that shit and I'm just because I know where he started and Owen's a friend of mine for like 20 years I know where started, which was political correctness is crazy and then he got some following on that and I wonder if that's fed him to go where he wants to go. And you know, you're an East Coast guy and I love New York City, you know, I used to defend LA comedy all the time, but what everybody says about LA has now finally become LA. It wasn't always like that. The crowds, everybody's a conformist out here. I mean, these crowds, these comments can't conform quick enough. Yeah. And I'm sure it's worse out there, but that shit's happening here too. And I just, I hate it. It's just like, to me it's like the worst,

it's so anti-comedy. The idea that you're looking to get a pat on the back rather than searching for what's truly hilarious or truly balsy or like like you know so to me like the oh I mean like I'm a Jew my grandfather was a holocaust survivor I'm I'm not even kind of offended by the own Benjamin profile pick because I know what he's doing he's he's making he's making he's he's making he free speech and you call him a Nazi and it's like, yeah, okay, here's your Nazi. So I don't, I don't know. I do get that. I just hope that he's not put painting himself into a corner. I just don't know what the end game is and maybe I'm wrong on that. The thing I like about new go on the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the he's the the the the there's there's he's he's he's he's there's he's he's he's he's their's their's their's their's their's their's their's their's their's their's their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is. Here's. Here's their is. Here's their is. Here's their their th. th. their th. their their their th. their their their their their I think comedians, you guys, having access to social media 24 hours a day and the fact that you guys keep late hours, not everything that comes into your mind might be the best thing to put out. I mean, Brody Stevens is a example of this years ago, but I think it's gotta happen.

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That's what can we mean, we are, we are, we are we are we are we are we are we are we are the last we are the last we are the last we are the last we are the last we are the last the supposed to be the truth tellers. That's what we mean. We are the last of the honest artist. Yeah, we used to listen to our politicians and laugh out our comedians. Now we listen to our comedians and we laugh at our politicians. So I think that the equation of comedy has been reversed. It used to be tragedy plus time. Well now it's tragedy, the tooomomomomomomom. It's tragedy minus time equals comedy. It's never too soon. Yeah, and here's a thing, dude. The thing I like about New York City is that you all live on top of each other,

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believe everything he's saying on the environment and listen man I'm not saying that stuff isn't real but why am I listening to El Gore and now his daughter married a Rothschild like that's some shady ass shit dog that's that to me is some shady ass shit so let's get into like you I'm really excited to have you on I'm dying to find out if I'm a libertarian like I said I'm roning dog I run by myself I'm a lone samurai I do to to to th th th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm to th I'm to th I'm th I'm to to th I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm the the thi I'm thi I'm thi thi thrown thi thi thrown thi the thi thi thi. thi. thi. I'm the thi. I run by myself, I'm a lone samurai, do my own thing. But I'm interested in finding out your thoughts on everything. And why don't you just give us a little background, Ryan, I'd like on libertarianism. I mean, you're always interviewed about libertarianism, because I guess you're the libertarian comic,

but just correct me if I'm wrong on a little thing. The overview, the key concept of libertarianism has developed over centuries. Modern libertarian philosophy stems from some 17th and 18th century thinkers like John Locke, David Hume, Adam Smith, Thomas Jefferson, and Thomas Payne. If you guys at home don't know any of those people check them out, you'll realize that these are the founding fathers. You'll find their names on Constitution on constitution on constitution bill of rights. And the whole idea is individualism, individual rights, and more interesting, the concept of

limited government, free markets, which Sam thinks that might be his only thing that he stems away from. But... No, not at all, but we'll get into my problem with free market. I mean, another, like you said, another big part of libertarian is peace. And if you ever heard the Democratic Party or the Republicans say like we're for peace, like when was last time you ever fucking heard that? Never. You never. And so-

Neocons and neolibraals do Chinese fire drill and touch Dix to each other, Chinese handcuffs and they just touch the end of the dicks. So I mean it's the concept of power tends to corrupt absolutely. 100% I don't know I was trying to explain to Sam I was like I feel like you're a libertarian man to be and who's accusing you of being a libertarian you just sitting on the back patio at the comedy store and someone's like, libertarian, like, no, I think people know the show and like have come up to me and go, dude, I think, I think you're libertarian. I go, it's possible. It's definitely possible.

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uh... tradition which what you're kind of described the describe the John Locke, John Stewart, Mail, Thomas, Jefferson, Thomas Payne. Those guys, more or less what they were were liberals. This is how they identified themselves coming from the root word liberty. And then that word kind of got jacked over time. Sounds like alternative comedy. Same thing got jacked by bad comics. Yes, exactly. If you look at the first generation of all comics, There's some really funny motherfuckers in that. And that. And that. And th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thi, the word, the word, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, the word, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiii, thii, thi, thi, thi, th good comparison. But to me like you know there's different types of libertarians so I don't know that I you know this isn't but my what I am like I'm more of a radical libertarian and it comes down to basically this it's it's one principle it's the

the non-aggression principle which is more or less just saying you should not bring violence to peaceful people period. It's wrong to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. th. the. the. the. the. their, period. It's wrong to bring violence to peaceful people. So it's basically that, it's that you own yourself, you own your body, you're free, and like you have natural rights. And the idea that you nobody should be able to force you to do anything as long as you're not infringing on anyone else's natural rights. So the distinction between like socialism and libertarianism, I think where a lot of people, you know, get it confused, is that I have absolutely no problem with any type of voluntary socialism. Anything you want to do, if you want to split a factory up

and give shares to all the workers, if you want to, you know what I mean, like, I mean, like raise money and pool it for everybody's health care i have no problem with that however when you say we're gonna tax you we're basically we're gonna take your money or we're gonna throw you in a fucking cage if you don't pay up for it then we're in some moral fucked up territory and of course that gets corrupted i mean just think about it it's like the government, there's this one libertarian slogan they say, the government has ideas so good they need to force you to do them. Right. And that's what I object to. No, and I do get that. I think the actual taxation of human, of American citizens,

is illegal and it's done by a foreign entity, which is, um, which is international bankers, and that might be a buzzword for people, and I don't think it should be. We've talked about it before. Some people think it has the connotations of fucking anti-Semitism, and we've listed all the international bankers who aren't of Jewish faith, and I think that faith is just a mask that people used to walk amongst us, okay? They're really dark arts people, that's use to walk amongst us, okay? That they're really dark arts people,

but that's another episode. The IMF, the WBO, the IRS are foreign entities that technically we don't owe anything to, but because they use our law, law enforcement and our military, they force us to pay these taxes. So yes, you can fight off, pay, you don't have to pay taxes But this foreign entity now makes you go to jail if you don't pay the taxes And that is yeah, I know I know shocking

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The CIA in the last 20 years has tortured people without any charges being brought against them, drone bombed American citizens and lied us into an invasion of Iraq where close to a million people died and the nation is destroyed. So like what more do you need? And you want to know why people hate America is because this country is thinking about putting Condoleezza Rice as the Commissioner of the number one sports league in America and that they're not now but it was up for a debate on whether she should run the NFL. I mean, this is a war criminal. You know, I mean, I don't want to shit on anyone's parade,

but Conan O'Brien's executive producer is the son of Harry Kissinger. I mean, like, we are looking at people who have destabilized the fucking world, man, who walk free, I mean like Dick Cheney and George Bush can't go to certain countries because they'd be arrested for what they've done to the rest of the world. And it's just the truth. And then, imagine a world where 9-11 didn't happen. Just imagine that world.

And then when you take a look at like all the evidence that there's some shady shit going down, building six we did an episode on it, the El Dorado Task Force, and you just start wondering going, fuck, what kind of world do we live in? And then you know that there is a deep state, a shadow government that puts us into war because it fuels the military industrial complex. And they have, we ran out of bombs, everybody. We ran out of bombs everybody we ran out of bombs there wasn't any more bombs to throw because we'd used all of our bombs that to me it's nuts that's a nuts statement dude so let's get into

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and yeah now it's of course CNN will report on the slave trade going on there but no one goes oh fuck this was Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ruined another country right after they had seen what happened in Iraq. Right. Right after they had seen this fucking happen. And they ruined it. Right, and then you go, who they ruined it for? Well, people fucking, the oil companies and the fucking bankers, they want to get off the petro dollar. So now we're doing the bidding of other fucking people. And then they got to sell us on all they want to to, their want to do this, they're using chemical weapons on people and it's called, you look up at an article

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I'm like, I got to pick my battles with her. Okay. Watch 60 minutes I'm like I got to pick my battles with her okay watch 60 minutes within one second dude that dude is like after a sonic gas to his people I'm like change it she's like he said what line like change it he just totally lied to everybody what that is is manipulating the elderly that watch that show and just planting shit in their head that the co-sign when Trump goes in to fucking North Korea, Trump goes in to Venezuela. Why are we going Venezuela everybody? Because they want to get off the Petro dollar. I mean it's shit. It makes, there's no reason to go after Venezuela. There's none.

Do you think as Americans we've taken our liberty for granted? I, the fact that the numbers, that there's 320 million Americans and only 129 voted, but yet everyone wants to bitch about the way the political system is. Well, look, man, I got nothing against people who don't vote. So I don't think, I think that, in many ways might be the best thing you can do. I mean voting, you know, you're basically given two parties that are a couple of bullshit options. You get one 60th of a millionth of a say. I mean, it's a goddamn circus. So I'm not against anyone checking out. But I do think there's a lot of truth to the idea that Americans have taken a lot of shit for granted. Just the whole thing. I mean, just came along with the freedom that we have. And the idea that we'd be so, you know, it's like all these fucking young radicals want to talk about is how the system oppresses them. Like the system

oppresses me because you know I'm like I'm a woman or I'm a trans or I'm this. It's like, man, if you have any sense of don't be wrong, there's some people who have it bad, like some guy who's doing life for pot distribution, like that guy's fucking really being oppressed, but, you know, save me your bullshit about your college campus not being a tolerant enough environment. I have some friends of mine who are female ethnic comedians and they act like like they wake up from, they have to bust out of chains every morning to run to an open mic That because they're so fucking oppressed and it just blows my here's the thing until everybody's a billionaire Dayton supermodels there's gonna be somebody crying about how hard they have it and they We are we are all billionaires man it's just it's just a matter of percent look in the year I forget I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. their. their. the the their. the the their. the the the the their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. their. the the matter of percent look in the year uh... i don't have the exact numbers in front of me but it's something like uh...

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What exactly is this net neutrality that everyone is talking about? Net neutrality at its core is the idea that the internet should be a free and open platform almost like a utility such as electricity that we use in our home. Internet service providers or ISPs don't limit the use of certain websites or give priority to others. It's all open and equal. Without net neutrality, ISPs would be able to charge customers for the use of certain websites, slow the speed of some, and even block some sites completely. Imagine having to pay $10 extra a month just to stream video online. No thanks. President Obama has asked the Federal Communications Commission to keep the Internet open

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We like these rules, and if you enjoy the internet, I'm sure you do too. All right, so you've heard that. What is your thoughts on that? what it and how it applies to it? I couldn't hear any of it. Okay, you got to sum it up for me. Sorry, but I don't know why I didn't play for you. Basically, it's saying that net neutrality and guarantees that the internet, all websites are treated equally, that you know, Legion Skanks website,

it doesn't get preference over Aaron's website. And that that is good, and that these companies cannot slow down or throttle another website, as long as it's doing legal stuff, that it should be all be treated across the board as a utility as electricity and water and stuff like that. Is that the gist, Ryan? Yeah, again, basically the whole idea that you're not paying each individual. You're not paying for video, you're not paying for email, gaming, social media, so it's all one price is net neutrality. No net neutrality is internet service providers charging you individually for each one of those things

as though it's like Netflix. And the whole notion is is if you get rid of net neutrality, which people need to understand, this is only a two-year-old thing. Net neutrality is only two years old. What they want to go back back to to to go back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back to go back to go back. to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to. to to to to to to to to to to to to the to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the to. ti. ti. ti. ti. the. the. the. to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to they what they want go back to is basically 2015 2014 they want to go into time machine probably shitty time machine if you can go back two years Go back to fucking years and go figure and be in the internet when it was then so what you felt then is what you're gonna go back to now Thoughts on that day okay, so all that stuff sounds really nice, sounds fairly reasonable, but you know, the Patriot Act sounds like something you should be behind too. And they have a great name.

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in 2015 and before, right, like the idea that there was some huge problem with websites with websites being like discriminated against, or that the idea that you wouldn't, like you couldn't view some websites or that they were blocking them, or that internet speeds was a real problem. Look, internet speed and accessibility was doing nothing but dramatically improving for ordinary people all around the world, okay? That's just an undeniable fact.

It's been the greatest equalizer in human history, okay? And so I do think to a large degree, it's kind of an invented problem. And I gotta say, just something else else like look i don't know exactly what uh... if this does successfully get repealed in the next couple weeks which it looks like it's going to i don't know exactly what internet service providers are gonna do but you know there's another flip side to that that people don't talk about so if you what we have right now under net neutrality say right

where you can't discriminate against websites, or you have to treat all websites the same. Well, bandwidth is a limited resource, okay? It's a finite resource. There is so much of it, and it gets, you know, predominantly, like Netflix takes up way more than it's fair share of bandwidth. So I'm sitting here in my apartment, right? And I have internet, some old lady down the hall from me also has internet, and maybe she only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only the the to use to use to use to use to use to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to the to to to, to, the the to, their, the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. I. I. I. I.. I..... I.. I. I, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I, th. I'm, th. And, toean. And, toean. And, toean. And, toean. And, toe. And, toe. And, th. And, th. also as internet and maybe she only uses it for email and to check a web browser every now and then and we're paying the exact same thing and i'm just fucking going to town on that that to i mean there's an unfairness to that too

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you know, and Google on YouTube. These to me are the modern day terminators. These are the modern day guys with the Paradise papers and the Panama papers where they said dummy things outside the country and you know a trillion dollars, what was it, 13 trillion dollars in fucking of tax evasion, which is whether you're talking taxes or not, whether you're for against it, the rule is there's taxes and these guys they found a way out of it, while DMX is, he might go to jail for hiding a couple mill compared their couple trill. So it's disgusting that anybody might get thrown in a cage for not, for not paying money,

you know, for basically resisting being robbed, okay? I think that's fucking horrible. But I have absolutely no problem with anyone who gets out of it. And let me tell you, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, what's worse, corporations are the government, and the argument that you have against corporations is that they lobby the government, which essentially means they try to get actively starving children to death in Yemen right now. God bless you. Thank you for keeping your money away from them. They would only do fucking horrific things with it. I do get that.

I do get that. And corporations at least do lots of great shit too, man. You know what I mean? Well, the Nazis created fucking times,, they were really good with highways. So I mean, I mean, a broken clock's right twice a day. It's twice a day. I mean, we could look at like where food has been like, they've lied about what's in food. You know, corporations have done a lot of Monsanto's

is fucking classic at bullshitting. We're about to do a giant, fucking episode on them trying to control the weed game. The weed drug, drugs being illegal is not the government. It is fucking corporations, big pharmaceuticals, all these people, you know, you're going to talk about this about paper, right? That the paper industry was really behind you making weed illegal, because they wanted to use fucking their pulp instead of using fucking... Absolutely. Absolutely. But that's the point that the government becomes a tool against the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their legal illegal illegal illegal illegal illegal illegal illegal. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their legal. their. their. their. their their. their th. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. their. the. pulp instead of using fucking... absolutely. Absolutely, but that's the point that the government becomes a tool against people and a servant to the corporations, okay? So yes, you're right about that, but at the end of the day, it's not a pharmaceutical company who comes and locks you and handcuffs and throws you in a fucking

cage. It's the government. So what you want is the government to be out to lobby. Okay, and what the, and this is just provable. Since the FCC has started regulating the internet under net neutrality, now they're spending more money on lobbying the government. Now all this money is going toward compliance, armies of lawyers and armies of lobbyists to try to make sure that they're in compliance with the FCC. This is all money that could be going back back back.

into either their workers or improving internet technology. Dude, what we want is not the internet the way it is. We want this thing to keep getting better and better and better. And I think that's much more likely to happen without the FCC involved. And the real dangerous shit, because you can't, we can't just like talk about all the shit that we've been talking about this whole time. And then act like the thin tha tha thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thi thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. We thi. We thi. We thi. We thi. We thi thi thi. We thi thi thi. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi demonic you like fuck. Right, hold on. So, and those same people just really want, you want. One more time, say that again, because we lost the last fucking minute of that ramp. Just seconds. Okay, well, more or less my point was just that, you know, it's like all the evil shit

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they want to throttle speed. The problem is that the fucking government punishes you by law from looking at, I'm sorry. I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm the, I'm the f that the f-a, isn't the f-a, isn't the fucking, isn't the fucking, isn't the fucking, isn't the fucking, isn't the fucking, isn't, isn't, the fucking the fucking, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm the fucking, I'm the fucking the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the f-s, the f-a, the f-a, the f-a, the f-s, the f-s, the f-a, the f-s, isn't the f like these nightmare scenarios that you're talking about with like, oh, what if you know, like we don't have net neutrality? If you want to actually find them, sure, you can go to China or Venezuela, you can go to any of these places. The problem is that their government regulates their internet. Not that it's left to the free market. Well, that is trtimes. You're like, this to me is a freedom. Maybe it's because I'm American. They leave me alone, but you can do a lot of fucking crazy shit out there. Dave, if you ever want to do a gig out there, let me know I'll fucking hook you up and you can go out there and you'll be like, okay, dude. This ain't so bad. I tell you're the the perception of China when you're what the perception what the perception what the perception what the perception what the perception what the perception what the perception what the perception what the perception what the perception what the perception what the perception what the perception the perception the perception the perception the perception the perception the perception the perception. I the perception. I'm the perception. the perception. their their their the perception. their their their the perception. I the perception. I the perception. their. the perception. the perception. their. the perception their. their. the perception. their. the perception. the perception. the perception. the perception. the perception. the perception. the perception. the perception. their. the perception. too I get blown away every time I always think man could I teach English fucking here I might fucking chill here

So it's very good. It's a lot better than it used to be I mean look China China went from the worst experiment in in you know totalitarian socialism ever into basically I mean look that the Chinese government is still a very authoritarian government but they just don't have that much power like they're just at the end of the day they're fairly weak but i mean it's again i don't think if you want to look around the world to nightmare scenarios it's not that the good is it's never a lazy fair government man that's that's never where the problems are okay let me ask you something real quick here the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the problem is is is is is is is the problem is is is is the problem is is is is is is the the the the the the problem is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is the the the the the the problem is is is is is is is is is a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they is the they is the the the the the I see free trade in two things That stand out to me free trade is in hamburgers

If I want a dollar hamburger I can go get a dollar fucking hamburger if I want a 16 dollar hamburger They are out there cell phones I think to a point have gotten very much That's a free trade thing they have forced Verizon to give you free data they are try? to to try? to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tre tre true??? true true true true true true trade trade trade trade trade trade trade trade trade tra. tra. tra. tra. tra. tra. tra. tra. tra. tra. tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre tre true true. true. true. true. true. true. true true true true true true trade trade trade trade is trade is trade is trade is trade trade trade is trade is trade trade trade true true true a free trade thing. They have forced Verizon to give you free data. They try forever not to give you free data. That is it. So when I sit there and I go, okay, net neutrality, if you take that way, you force these guys to compete with each other. So maybe that is good. But then I look at health care and I know that you're pro-anti universal health care. But I do want it so the the their their their to their to to their. to to their. their. their. their. But I do want it so the government, because what you see in Canada, and in England, and all these other places, is where the government

can negotiate with pharmaceutical companies, okay? And I can negotiate with you to get a lower fucking drug. Because right now what I see is mother-fucking collusion, okay? collusion across boards. We're going to do an episode on these drugs because right now what I see is mother fucking collusion, okay? Collusion across boards. We're gonna do an episode on this. 80 holistic doctors have been mysteriously killed. 80 of them because they try to give an alternative to these things to pharmaceutical drugs. Where can I go get the cheap drugs? Where can I go get the cheap doctor? Where can I do that? No, they all universally agree let's keep it at this fucking Pepsi? the drug drug drug? the drug. their their their. their. their. their get the cheap doctor? Where can I do that? No, they all universally agree. Let's keep it at this fucking number. Coke and Pepsi. They fight with each other until fucking

some dude comes up and then they fuck that guy. Where is the competition in those? Like that's where I think we need a little bit of fucking a government to jump in to offset these prices or at least negotiate with these companies. Am I wrong? Well, yeah, I mean look, I agree with part of what you're saying and part of and not really with the conclusion. So like you're absolutely right that there is all this collusion. There is all this fucked. I mean, look, it's not as if we have free market health care in this country. I mean, we have large pockets of socialized health care. I mean, we have Medicaid, the their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. to to th. to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I'm t toge. I mean, t toge. I mean, t t toge. I mean, t toge. I mean, I mean, I agree, I th. I th. Iized health care. I mean, we have Medicaid, we have the VA, we have Obamacare, you know, and yeah, we kind of get the worst of both worlds. Now, I gotta say, I don't think health care in Canada or England

is the rosy picture that a lot of people painted as. And I think if you talk to people from those countries, you get a pretty mixed reaction about it. And that is the running joke when you kind of do jokes about Obama up there. They're like, we like our health care. You can find somebody bitching about it. I just been, when I do gigs up there, they are very thankful for their health care. I'm just not trying to basically hear here. I just do hear that a lot. Okay, fair enough.

I certainly have heard mixed reactions. I'd say this, that before, you know, like the mid-60s, really, we had much more free market health care in America. I mean, before we had Medicare and Medicaid and all of these programs, and our health care was the envy of the world. I mean, it was the greatest in the world, no question about it. And to me, what you really want in health care is really the same thing that you want with cell phones. You want to go from that fucking Nokia flip phone to a smartphone. You want to go, look, I could, if I said I can provide you with free health care, unlimited free health care from the 1930s. No one wants that shit, man, because it's like they just didn't have the technology. I believe very wholeheartedly that if we left health care to the free market in 10 years, poor people would get tod.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. No th. No th. No one th. No one th. No one th. No th. No thi, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, thi. No, thi. No, thi. No, thi. thi. thi. thi. theeean. thean. thean. thean. thean, thi. thrown, theeeee. thr-I today. I just, I get it, but I just feel that like, you're, I just, like I look at Vegas right

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including locals, for fucking parking. If that thing ticks up, it's going to be everywhere. I mean, you're looking right now and going back to your taxes thing is where they now have a tax. So you go, hey man, I just found us $50 fucking room. You go there, it's a $40 tax. Every night on that fucking place. So, th. So, th. So, thi. that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thii, that's thi, that's thi, thi, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. thi, hey. that's thii, hey. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's thi. that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi.'s a $40 tax every night on that fucking place. So that's what I get nervous about, dude. I get really nervous about if we just start playing this free trade because free trade's great when we're all, if we all three of us, four of us, you there, and us in this room, all like, we're going to start television stations, we're all going to do it, and we all start from zero, I'm cool at that. But when one group has so much power and money and the other person does it, where's the free market in that?

Well, I mean, I think, look, you're never going to have everybody starting from the exact same level. I mean, my grandfather came to this country as a refugee, he had nothing but the clothes on his back, his entire family was slaughtered and a couple generations later we're doing fine. I think freedom gives a much better, look, the corporations are in large part creations of the state. They're granted all these ridiculous kind of, you know, like personhood and all these kind of crazy liability limits. And I think that that isn't really a creation of the free market as much as it is the state i'm completely against corporations being able to game the system to write rules in their favorite you know i don't know a lot about uh...

what's going on in vegas but i again i don't think like look corporations also you know it when they're not gaming the system and they're not lobbying the government and they actually have to compete to provide customers with the service i think a lot of them end up doing some really great things i mean i know everybody on the left hates walmart because they don't pay you know enough to their workers or whatever walmart goes into the poorest areas of this

country the most rural poor areas of this country and cuts people's costs on silly little things like food and clothes by thirty percent and clothes by 30% but they also they also destroy all the local businesses so there's nowhere else to work. Look they don't destroy anyone man customers choose to go to Walmart over those mom and pop right right I do get that I do get that that I mean but it is something where it's like hey dude you can go this mom and pop it's like when I go get, yeah, I'm a pay a little more than Starbucks. Even though Starbucks is expensive.

But I like to help the local thing, but you know, it's like when people are grinded, I get it, I get it, I get it, dude. I get it, I get it, I get it, man. I get it. I even see people who are union. They've done studies where they are to thuuuuuuuuuu, to to to to to to to to to the to to to the the the to to th, th, th, th, thu, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th, th, th is th is th is expensive th is thus is thus is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I like thi. I like thi, thi, thi, I get it, I get it man. I just, I don't know. So you should be free to do that. You should be free to go to the mom and pop shop if you want to do that. And if you want to keep mom and pop shops around, you know, start a group, start a Facebook group, start a hey, let's fund these mom and their pop shop. thrown it. Do that. But I'm not I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm not th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the that the. the. the to be free to be free to be free to be free to to to to th. to to to to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th th th th th th. th. the the the the the. the. the the. the the. the. the. thr. thr. thr. thr. the. thr. thee. the. thrue the. thro. to to to to to the. clothing their fucking children, man. But thank God Walmart came in and helped them out like that. I get what you're saying, there is an argument for that. There is an argument for that. I just like, when you own so much of the market share, it's very hard to have a free trade

kind of fucking, you know, competition. Look, man, they were like, uh, I, B. Yeah, by the, under, um, antitrust laws, okay, for having a fucking monopoly. IBM, who the fuck could take them out? You know what it was? It was some fucking hippie in a college dorm room was coming up with fucking Microsoft, man. And then he fucking took that whole thing out. So I don't, the fact that someone's someone's someone's someone's someone's someone's someone's someone's someone's someone's someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone someone.

I don't, the fact that someone's starting ahead or not starting ahead, I just... I get what you're saying. I do get what you're saying. I do get what you're saying. I understand that. That is a very, I get that point. In your own personal life, Dave, have you gotten anyone to kind of switch sides and come on over from the blue or red and become a libertarian ideas to the way that the Libertarian Party is thinking? I mean, I've definitely influenced some people in my personal life,

but I've gotten a lot more just from like doing the podcast and stuff like that. I mean, I got letters and emails and stuff all the time for people like, oh, you convince me or brought me over here. So, unless a lot of people are lying to me, I think we've opened a lot of people with this podcast too. I see a lot of people talking about stuff that we We discuss on this show. We start opening their eyes and you know I do. I think this was a great episode. I had a lot of fun discussing this and I think you and I agree on a lot of stuff. The war on drugs needs the fucking the war on the rest of world people. You cannot keep putting out this fucking the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the rest of the world, people, you cannot keep putting out this fucking energy to the rest of earth and knocks back humongous blowback. It's just

you can't terrorize the world like this. And it's going to get like that. And there, you know what man, we, what we do is we created the consuming nation. We consume everything. People's whole economy depend on us consuming their products. And if they don't play ball, we cut them off. And then we go, oh look that doesn't work. Look at them. We fucking cut them off, dude. And it's just fucking tragic. I want to ask you a real quick question. You believe in freedoms and all that stuff as being a Jewish man. I want to ask you your thoughts on th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And if thi, thi. And, thi thi. And, thi thi thi thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi. And, thr-a, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, throoooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, thee. And, the. And, the. I want to ask you your thoughts on this bill that is being passed in Arizona or being pushed in Arizona, which states if you call for a boycott of Israel, you can go to jail for 20 years and find $250,000.

What is your thoughts on that? I think, I think it's absolutely insane. And you know, I think Israel's treatment of the Palestinian people is fucking deplorable and and you should I mean obviously you should have the freedom of speech to criticize whoever the fuck you want to and look man like I don't I think there are a lot of good people in Israel and it's it's a pretty good culture and they certainly are a better culture than a lot of these you know third world theocracies but what you know what they do theocracies, but what you know that what they do to the Palestinian people is absolutely you know horrific and and their foreign policies horrible

and like yeah I don't know it's of course you should be able to criticize any government and Israel is right up there with one of the worst. Hey man I think that was very well put and I totally agree with you and I totally agree with you and I totally agree with you and I thr-in th. th. thups in Israel do as you and I had a say in Fucking, you know attacking Iraq or in Afghanistan or fucking any of this other shit that our government's doing Yes, the name of the citizen so I think it's very important that people like understand that groups don't You know, it's my whole theory groups don't go up and down groups go across man, you know Yeah, and we're not fucking thing dude, you know, right and like, like, like, like, like, like, and understand, and understand, like, and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, like, the the the th, the the th, th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. You th. You you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you th. th. th. th. th. th. th. You th. You know, you know, th. I th. I th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the the th. the thi thi's thi's thi's thi's the thi's the thi a the ta. thi. the thi, th up and down groups go across man you know yeah and we're not fucking thing dude you know right and the big lie is that we are the government the government is the people you

know the government of foreign by the people it's bullshit man it's complete bullshit this whole democracy thing is a fucking fraud Obama said we're gonna end these wars and close one to one timeo bay and the country went yes we want that guy yeah and they're all still they're all still going on we didn't choose to do this we did he was the longest running war criminal out there the longest running one you know so Dave you were great I hope you had a good time I know it's you know it's a comedy podcast but sometimes we just have some nices on here and we don't necessarily go for the giggles here and there. But we had a great time. I appreciate you coming on. Please let me know when you're going to be back in in Los Angeles. If you need help getting spots, I'd love to help you with that. And because I got a bunch of stuff I'm working on. I'd love for you to be a part of it. And thanks for coming on. I really appreciate any thoughts. Yeah, Dave, you got a big heart and I really love your passion, man. So keep on fighting

the good fight. Thanks. Thank you, brother. Thanks to both you guys. I really enjoyed it. I'd love to do it again. We'll do it again soon man. Take care and good luck with everything. Congrat's on all your hard work and success. Thank you brother. Bye. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. the the thi. the to the to to the to to's favorite part of the show. Hold on, dude. Here we go. Open your mind. Aaron, Eric. Don't be an idiot. Open your mind. Wake! WAKER!

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we allow corporations to protect the we allow the government to protect these guys and that's what happens and that everything that's wrong with corporations because the government tells us that it's okay for them to do it I think that was his point okay and you don't agree with that no I'm not I have to process what you just said okay I was thinking my next thing I wasn't entirely paying attention. Okay the the the one. Okay? the one. And the one. And the one. And the one. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And you th. And you th. And you th. And you th. And you th. And you th. th. th. th. the one th. thi thi thi thi thi the one the one the one the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the a the a the a thea thea the a the a thea the a the a the a the a the. Okay. And I was thinking of my next thing, I wasn't entirely paying attention. Okay. The one thing I did agree with that you guys talked about pretty early on was accountability and how there just needs to be it across the board.

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you're like we got to deregulate this. And then I forgot to ask him, fuck. It was the one thing I want to ask him about is these bailouts. You know, these corporations now basically put into their accounting that they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're going. they're that they're going to get a barrel out. What's that called? They... Ah, fuck, my brain's just skipping, but they basically expect it to happen. We'll get another chance. He'll be here in LA sometime soon and someone to match your passion. Yeah, too big to fail was bullshit. Total bullshit. And that's why I say Ronin dog because people are going to go sign off Obama and they're going to try to spin it right when it's

like Obama and Bush both did it. So stop calling out and stop acting like this dude you don't know is a good dude because you know that over the history time white guys have been bad dudes. And it's like no dude I'm tellain. I'm t about it, man. It's not, it's green is the only color that matters. And we talk about what Ron Placone, hey, it's great that we fucking sign some transsexuals to being in our government. But when the cash comes, what are they going to fucking do? Are they going to take that they replaced. That being said, we can't wait to get some sponsors so that we can sell whatever you need us to sell. Yeah, we got red sauce the last time, let's get some green. There you go.

At least. I mean, would that change the show if we got sponsors? I don't think so. No. Well, that's the thing is, is Yes. And the same thing would go if you got sponsored all of a sudden by. We wouldn't change anything. Coca-Cola was like, Coca-Cola's tin-foil hat. Yeah.

You still have to be. We still got to be tin-foil hat because our listeners, who are wonderful fucking listeners, they support our Patriot, they support buying our shirts. They're funding us our show. they would probably help us with our sponsorship too. So even if you didn't like what we were doing as a corporation, you want our listeners buying power, they work hard, they're fucking savvy ass motherfuckers. Open-hearted, open individuals with beautiful souls. They get it, dude.

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Maybe Rogin, but that's about it. Love you, Sam. Love you, too, Ryan. Love you, to their and we'll see you guys on the next time. Thanks for all the support, and we'll see you next time. Thank you.