Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - Tin Foil Hat #55: The Greg Bucceroni Story

Episode Date: December 12, 2017

Tin Foil Hat #55: The Greg Bucceroni Story by sam tripoli

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I hope to see you all in and come with me to bring in a brand new new year. Guys, how are you, Ryan? Very good Sam. You know who we are, you know what we're here to do. Thank you guys for your support. Our numbers keep growing. We've had one of our best weeks yet.

And it's all because you guys support us and you spread the word. And today, we're on all th th th th thu thu thu thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to their thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, too, too, too, too, too, the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the.ooooo. the. too. too. too, too. to word. And today, we're on all things comedy, but I don't know if today is going to be a comedy episode. This is a very serious episode. The guy we're about the interview is a very brave man to come out and tell his story. We always ask, we always get asked no matter where we go on, why isn't there anyone coming forward? Well, we have the man right now. Do you want to get into who our guest is, Ryan? Yeah, allegations of sex abuse that began with Harvey Weinstein on the West Coast has shifted towards the facets of the political and economic media spheres of the US Eastern Seaboard. A surge in public willingness to come to terms with the stark reality of abuse executed by members of the establishment suggests that a time is to re-examine the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the suggests that a time is to

reexamine the testimony of survivors who have previously come forward of these allegations and one of those survivors is today's guests please help me welcome Greg Boutrione. Greg, welcome to the show. Did I butcher your name Greg? No we got right. Did we kill it? Did we crush it? You guys get killed. But you're running. Thank you, Greg, for coming on. And thank you for being so brave enough to tell your story. We've seen you on Dr. Phil. And I've seen ever since the disobedient media article came out. You've been popping all over the place and we're super thankful for that. And man, what has your life been like lately since this article come out? Have you been getting hit up a lot?

Has the world finally heard your story? I mean, I kind of been, since 2011, I've been talking about this. And, you know, it kind of comes in ways. Some people don't believe it, you know, they don't believe that there's sex child sex rings out there that are involved with different individuals. So, you know, you have a lot of people that are what I consider Monday morning quarterbacks, meaning they live in their little white world and they're not used to poverty, crime, this type of behavior involving children. So they can't understand it because the world they live in, the world they live in, the world they live in some white picker fence in the suburbs is two different realities.

So they can't understand how this could happen to children and for so long authorities would kind of turn a blind eye to it. Very interesting now Greg I understand if this is the best position you put the camera but your steering wheel is blocking us from seeing you and I just want to make sure that our fans can see your your beautiful face my friend because I think what about now now you look perfect dog you're perfect you're looking good yeah yeah we want to see who you are now the real quick why do you think people are so

resistant to believing your story because you know we talk about this all the time on the show like whistleblowers and people come out with the truth it is a very dangerous thing to do. And it is like, it is a rough thing to do because there is so much backlash and pushback. Why do you think people can't, well, especially now when we see this whole Rob Moore thing going on, and everybody is politicizing pedophilia. And we like if I accuse yours the other side doing it You're like yeah totally but I accuse your side of doing not you but if whoever it is They get so defensive and they can't believe even though they don't know these people. Why do you think there's such a pushback on people? Wh-I don't know why you come out lie about it? There's fame. There's infamy, and I don't know why you would want this kind th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the their their thi. their their thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. to. their to. to. to. th. th. to. to. to. to. toge. to. to. to. to. to. toge. to. the's infamy, and I don't know why you would want this kind of energy

at you if you weren't just trying to help. Well, what happens is, I had a lot of my friends that, you know, we grew up while we came from dysfunctional families in New York City, Philadelphia and other areas. And so we did, this was a mode of survival. We'd run away from home, this is how you made money in addition to other crimes. This was easiest way to make money without the police interacting. A lot of times the police didn't want to get involved in these type of things because it involved very prominent individuals and as long as no one called the police, no one those don't ask don't t individuals. And as long as no one called the police, it's the one those don't ask,

don't tell scenarios. We would consider throwaway kids. So for the most part of many of the times in law enforcement, elected officials, even if we periodically wanted the kids would have emotional broke down, the neighbors would call the cops, and we would tell law enforcement or other officials. And pretty much they dubbed us that we would be dead or in jailed the jailed the jailed their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, we thi, thi, we thi, we th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We, we th. We th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, thi. We thi. We thi. We're the. We're the. We're thrown. We're thrown, thrown, we're, we're the. We're the. We're thrown. We're the. We're thrown. We're the. We're th cops and we would tell law enforcement or other officials and pretty much they dubbed us that we would be dead or in jail by the time we were 18 anyway so who cares? We would consider throwaway kids and this is unfortunately it still goes on today like you know you look at the Black Life Matter movement until they became organized and started demanding justice, I don't always agree with everything, how they do things. However, I do respect that they had enough of the BS and trigger-coding things,

and they said, listen, no one's going to take us serious until we take ourselves serious, and then we have to make them take it serious. Well, that's how victims, especially victims of child sex trafficking go. A lot of my friends wind up having horrible lives. My life didn't go the way I thought it would be because getting involved in this thing as an adolescent and my years were between the years, 1976 and 1980. So getting involved in this type of, this is not a natural act for a street tough, non-gay boy from the streets of Philadelphia, streets of New York, or streets from whoever.

This is not a natural act, but this is what you do to survive if you're doing drugs and alcohol and living on the streets, and, these are some of the modes that children do to survive. You're hungry. There's many times we were so hungry and people say I would never do that. Well, it's easy for them to say because they live behind white picker fences. It were living on the streets in poverty and they would dig into garbage cans for food just to eat or shelter because it's it's cold. They would look at the world in a different perspective.

But when they live, they look at it and say, oh, it never happened to me. And that's good that it never happened to them. Hopefully, it never happens to them or anyone they know. But it happens on a regular basis. And I'm not the only person that was victimized by, you know, this, these assorted activities. So a lot of people read the paper, or they're quick to criticize, because some of the prominent people that were involved, oh, they're very dignitary, well-respected people in the neighborhood, obviously.

And this is what kind of enabled them to do it so long because they were somebody who was prominent, had political connections, very wealthy, used philanthropy, and we were just some scum from the street that they do whatever they wanted to. And believe it or not, I tell a lot of people, our elected officials failed us, law enforcement failed us, child protection services failed us, our schools, academic facilities failed us, law enforcement failed us, child protection services failed us, our schools, academic facilities failed us, and these youth programs failed us because these people, you know, this is how much money and influence they have, so if you have a lot of people that are working for the government, and this person has influence with elected officials

that oversee the agency or department that you work for. Well, you guess what? If you reported and it doesn't go the way you think it's going to go, your life become very hard and you probably wind up getting fired from your job or punished severely. So a lot of people are like, nah, I'm just going to play stupid. I'm going to look. And then this just goes on and goes on for decades and the victims continue to rack off. It's very interesting that if I said, hey, Penn State got busted doing child molesting, how quickly people would go. Oh yeah, totally. If I say Catholic priest got so quickly to, uh, got, were busted, child molesting, they'd be, oh, hell, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But th. But th. But, but th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. tooean. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the victim. the the the... were busted child molesting they be oh hell yeah you know but yeah i say politicians and people just can't come to grips with it and it's all about money and power and

we'll get into the the blackmailing stuff but the pushback is blows my mind because it's just like why don't we just understand that there now is being pedophili is now being used to take people down but what we're seeing is that a lot of these people are being accused of all the sexual assault stuff it's actually true. Yeah Greg I really appreciate your courage and honesty coming forward you said that you've started speaking out in 2011 for the people that don't have a background your testimony was published in the New York Daily News in 2012, correct? It was, there was several, it started in 2011 when the St. Dotsky case broke.

And then it kind of went in different directions. In Philadelphia, there was several, I cooperated with the FBI, the U.S. Postal Inspectors, and the U.S. Attorney General's office. And I named Philadelphia politicians and very prominent people tied to those politicians. And the only thing, the reason they're not in jail is because the statute of limitations. Yeah. Or they can't, but I reported them, and because I reported them, they were very upset. And in 2012, 2011 going in 2012, there was a lot of, I made national headlines in different things. And Oprah Winfrey, who runs the Dr. Phil's show, was in New York, and I was all over the

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Then you start lifting weights and just being a bully and doing heavier drugs and shooting up heroin and so I was like, you know, what's going on? He told me what happened and but there's nothing we could do about it, you know, because we weren't going to the cops. We weren't rats a lot of times. times times times times ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti. ti. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their ths. their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their their. their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. te te te toda. today te today to the the the an they're they're they're the an they're't going to the cops. We weren't rats. A lot of times people say, how come you didn't go to the cops? I say, I'll tell you why. Initially, now at some point I get locked up and I mentioned that on the doctor's show that while I was locked up, I kind of gave some information to there was some circumstances today I just didn't walk up and pick someone's house at random. But getting back to my friend Joey he went through a lot of depression so St. Dusky it was told to us in the late 80s that coach Jerry we didn't normally say in dusky we just know his coach Jerry had died of cancer so you kind of just move on you know life goes on my friend Joey committed suicide because of depression. Every year it just got...

Oh man. So you kind of, like, you know, all these years go by. And then all of a sudden, 2011, I'm in a bar getting some meat and socializing with my friends. Pank, Penn State, Jerry St. Dusky. And then I'm like, you know, this son of a bitch is still alive. Holy someone to die in the future. And then, and for whatever reason, and it was no... Wasn't an adult that told you that? Was an adult or another kid?

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1980s now fast forward to 2011 and you know it just hit me like a Mike Tyson punch you don't see coming. Yeah. And, you know, it's like I started becoming real emotional, like you know, because a lot of my friends, whether it was St. Dusker or other offenders, we all had grew up not the way we should have grown up, like drug abuse, alcohol abuse, and out of jail. Some of my friends wind up being murdered, some committed suicide, some committed murder. Many of them, I go to the Kansas section of Philadelphia, which is a real depressed section

in Philadelphia, and I see my friends that are extremely strung out on drugs. And it's heartbreaking to see this is how many of us have become and we I blamed it on these prominent offenders that were you know they exploited us you know when we were adolescent age so it the Sandusky case came I became very emotional and I started crying and I wanted to act out violently on some of the people that was involved. I totally understand that. And but I, you know, I have a daughter, I got a couple kids and I'm not that person

I used to be. So I'm really contemplating should I, should I act out violently because I know they're going to, if I go to the cops, they're going to cover that up. So what do I do? How do I get justice for myself and my friends? And I'm contemplating violence. And I ask God, and I'm not a man of religion. I don't go to church. I was never molested by a priest.

But I just, you know, if there was a God, how did this happen to me? Right, right, I get that. Where was it, divine intervention from me and my friends. So what I never really was a holy rolly church followed. So I ask God though, because I'm contemplating probably doing extreme violence to someone in particular, and I asked for a sign and believe or not the Michael Jackson man in a mirror song came on. What? Wow. That's the song that came on like 30 seconds after like I'm looking for a sign like something and that came on. So I said well I don't know. It's ironic that you know like Michael Michael Jackson man in a mirror. But I said you know what I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I need to. I need to, I, I, I, I, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to. to. to. to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I the. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the well, I don't know. It's ironic that, you know, Michael Jackson, man in the mirror.

But I said, you know what, I'm going to, I need help and I need professional help because I can't deal with my emotional role or what's going on. So there was, in Philadelphia, there was an organization called Women Organized Against Rape. And here's the thing. That was the one that helped victims of sex trafficking. They're like a non-profit organization that has professional counselors and advocates and all. So, I said, I got to go through them for help. So many times I called and when they picked up the phone, I hung up. And then I would go to their office, but I couldn't walk through the door.

Because it's tough for a street tough guy to admit that he was a rape victim. The hardest thing for people in jail is the two biggest concerns people have going to prison is, are they going to get raped and if they get raped they can't talk about it for tough guys. I get that. It's not the man it's today's society it's not the mainly thing to do. Right. What happens is many times I go to the door this woman organized against rape and I go to pull the door but then I chicken out like a coward and leave and leave and I remember tell them them them them them them them them the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they the. they their the. I they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they remember telling in the news media different news media sources that it would have been easier for me to get in the boxering with Mike Tyson and get my ass kicked, then it would to be walking to a door called women organized against rape and admit that I was a rape victim.

That's rough, man, that's rough. I want to get into something because your story, like we've always go, how come there's no connection, how come there's nobody coming forward, we're going to get into a lot of that real quick. But I want to talk about where does this start? When does it first start and who is the person who gets you into this world? Um, well, it first started and before 1976, I was, I always considered myself a poster child for juvenile delinquency. Now, did you run away from home or do you just... Oh, my, I don't know. Well, not, not so much, in 1974 and 1975, I didn't really run away from home, but I was doing other things, like smoking, drinking, looking a girlie magazine, shoplifting, trowing you

from school, doing petty crimes. Like juveniles get involved. Yeah, I did a lot. I did all that. So I kept getting in trouble with Philadelphia Family Court and Department of Human Services, which is child protection in Philadelphia. So my mom was stressed out my mom and dad divorced. We were kind of growing up in poverty. And you were the first wave of divorce, right? You were that divorce right around the 70s, 80s started becoming more prominent and it happened to a lot of my friends and it traumatized them. You were the first, like family because of religion you just stuck it out. Are you just like we're gonna do this to the end because we don't want to thank God and then at some point people decided that they didn't

need to do that and it was it was traumatizing. Yeah, so in a nutshell what happened was, can you guys hear me? Yeah. All right, so in a nutshell, what happened was, you know, my role models back then were mobsters, the warlock, my motorcycle gang, the Pegans, like criminal types became my role models because my father figured wasn't really in my life like a father should be. So to fill that void, these criminal types first came in. So anyway, through family court, I had to go, you know, they wanted me to go to this program to keep boys out of trouble. It's called the South Philadelphia Boys Club.

And that was a program for at-risk boys to stay out of trouble. And so that was a program for at-risk boys to stay out of trouble. And so that was 1976. And while we're there, we're introduced to what was called these philanthropists. And I didn't know what a philanthropist was then, but what I was gathered is that this is some guy that's got a lot of money to donate to charity. And want to help, you know, whatever that cause of that charity is. So we get involved to a guy named Mr. Savitz. And then the second day I'm in there, because I was extremely street savvy kid at such a young

age, I'm 11 years old. Right. You're surviving. I'm not, you know, but I'm smart, streetwise. I wasn't the smartest footwise, but streetwise I would have had a doctor in as a juvenile delinquent. So what happened was the second, like first day they go in there to start talking about this guy fast eddy and that he has parties and he smoked weed and then the second day they're talking about you know the guy takes pictures these are all the

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and then before you know it, it's a million times with different people in different areas. You're hooked on the drugs, you're hooked on the money, and it's just, because you're on your own, you know, it just becomes a lifestyle. Well, it was a lifestyle, like we committed other crimes, but here's the problem. When you commit crimes, people called the police. And when the police came, especially in the 70s and going into the early 80s, the police were extremely heavy-handed with juvenile criminals. And I always considered myself back then as a general

practitioner of crime. So, you know, steal a car, break in the hair, shop, whatever. Whatever you had to do is survive. And so this was crime always looks for the point of least resistance. Yeah. So once you got past the whole gay thing, not gay thing, that's where the drugs and alcohol come in. And then once you get past all that, it becomes this with no credit limit cash cow. It'd be equivalent of an ATM with no credit limit. So you go there, you get a hundred box or 50 bucks or $ dollars or whatever, you blow that, you come back and get more.

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Well, you call your fucker, you're a fucker, and beat the hell out here and beat the shit. Bruce Lee fit. So I was pretty good with those nonchucks. So you know someone comes up and says, you know, you want a prostitute? We beat the hell out of your rob you. And I'd be out to with my nonchuck swinging around like I was Bruce Lee. I get that dude. I think it's important for for our listeners to know that these allegations that you're describing of the child prostitute and pedophile ring have been confirmed by media reports and emails that have been published by WikiLeaks and FBI documentation of mafia activity and testimony from a congressional committee hearing obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. So this

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And so these are, so it just became this pool for at-risk kids to dialogue with other at-risk kids. And then at some point, you're in the pornography places that are producing child pornography and setting up dates between adults and juveniles which gets into the human trafficking. But a lot of people tell me the mob would never do that. Absolutely not. I watched Godfathe 20 times. I said, pal you watched it with close eyes.

But no one would believe me because they think they know the mob because they watched reruns of the Sopranos. People want people want to believe what they've been told and when you tell them it's all lie, they go nuts. So you, here we go. So let's get because this whole thing, the politicizing of pedophilia, okay? You know, the right believes the right is up to it. This Greg connects both of them. And, and the, and they. And they. And they. And they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're, they're they're they they they they they they they they they they the.e.e.e.e. They they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're up to it. The left believes the right is up to it. This Greg connects both of them. And they come together through some very interesting stuff, which we've all heard about for a long time.

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Well, before 2011, I didn't know nothing about no Franklin Scandal or anyone by the name of Lawrence King. I wasn't, that was in a different world, and people have mentioned it, and I said, I don't know anything about Omaha Nebraska and Boystown. I've you know I was a Billy guy New York, Atlantic City type guy. So I kind of like they tell me the conspiracy of silence I said that that was some other kids with somebody else on the other side of the country I got nothing to do with that

meeting. So one of my friends said but why don't you look at it and I think that you. So one of my friends said, Butch, why don't you look at it? And I think that you'll see somebody that looks familiar. So when we look at it and the conspiracy silence comes on, you got this guy that looks like a young version of Al Sharpton. All right, go on. That we knew him to be Black Larry. I didn't know his name was Lawrence King. We just knew Black Larry and Black Larry Used to sponsor trips to Reddy Savits Who was a philanthropist at the South Philly Boys Club to take kids down to? the late 70s early 80s To you know kind of see legitimate stuff museums hold on one second. Hold on. Is it is the stop, too? The audio is going. Go on. Sorry about that. So that was Black Larry.

And so everything was legitimate. Like, I didn't know his involvement in anything until 1979. 1979, Eddie Savage says that he's going to attend a party on behalf of Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was running for president or considering running for president of the United States and they were having this wine and cigar thing in Washington, D.C. And Eddie Savage wanted to go with a few other people and ask me if I came down he was going to induce me to a few people and I can come back to fold up you with a few dollars in my pocket. So money's money. Keep in mind at this point

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I didn't hear any kids at that in particular social event or after party event say anything like that pretty much the kids were messed up like I was and hey you want to party you go hustle make some money you meet these guys they blow you to take pictures or whatever and life goes on did you end up going to the White House no I never went to the White House you never were at the White House because that was a big part of that Franklin scandal because I probably would have tried to steal something or get my magic marker and graffiti. No, I respect that. So, dude, if I would have went to the White House, I always had those magic markers.

And I would have drew like a mustache on George Washington's fucking face or something. So I was one of those fucked up kids. So they would me to the White House. So Larry King later gets convicted, not the Larry King. Hello, Hollywood, but the Black Larry King gets convicted. There is, there are witnesses that see Larry King talking to not only Ronald Reagan, but as well talking to George Bush Senior. George Bush senior later gets busted, having underage prostitutes within the White House, okay? And then, so now, so now we get, now with this whole thing with George Bush is now trying to, everybody's trying to say, oh, he pinched these ladies butts, he pinched his ladies butts. I think that's just a cover up for this stuff coming out about him being

a pedophile. But then now, so that's the Republican side, now what is what you want to talk about, which is the Democratic side connects. And this is where we've talked about this on the show before, where this is simply simply th is what is what is what is what is what th is simply, th. th. th is th. th is th. th is th. th is th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. thi's thi's thi's just tho, tho, tho, thi's just thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. this is just just just just this is just th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. this is where we've talked about this on the show before, where this is simply, dude, stop looking at sides. They're two heads of the same snake. Stop getting into D's, stop getting into ours, and just realize they're all working together. Yeah, this is where the connection to Philadelphia and you've been from there is very fascinating to me. So we were saying a former district attorney for Philadelphia, the the the connection to Philadelphia and you've been from there is very fascinating to me. So we were saying a former district attorney for Philadelphia, the former DNC chair,

the former mayor of the city of Philadelphia from 1992 to 2000, and former governor of Pennsylvania from 2003 to 2011. We're talking about Ed Rendell. Could you explain in just a briefness about about Mr. Rendell? And your interactions with him? Well what I got I got to be careful because of civil liability issues. Right. Whatever you're comfortable with saying. Allegedly. Allegedly. I shared detailed information with them. However, the statute of limitations prevents anything from happening. I shared detailed information with them. However, the statute of limitations prevents anything from happening.

What I could say, did he know these individuals? Did he enable them? Yes. Were they part of his political fundraisers and helping them generate money and interacting with kids. Yes. Ed Rendell was running for district attorney in the late, like 76, 77. So Eddie Savage, Sam Rappaport, Richie Bassianos, and others were these philanthropists that would get behind him and generate money through wine and cigar events and social events and political fundraising events and you know Ed Rendell was good friends

with and it doesn't make like you would think a guy running for disc attorney would keep away from a mobster who's who's under investigation for trafficking child pornography. And that was Richie Bassiano and a guy named Robert D. Barnardo. We know him as D.B. These are Gambino Associated Mobsters. D.B. is a Capo in the Gambino Crime Family. And he's the one that runs all these porno places, you know, from New York City, from New York City to Philadelphia, to Delaware, to, you know, all over the place,

New Jersey. And Richie Bassianos, his business partner, and then Sam Rappaport, who is the real estate slum lord that owns the, he's the landlord to where these porno places are residing it. And, um, Ed Rendell's friends with all of them. So and at some point, you know, knocking into what I can't share with you is that he was well aware, Eddie Savage, it was well known by law enforcement and elected officials that these porno places that were within walking distance of City Hall, Philadelphia,

were under investigation for trafficking child pornography and kids were being prostituted out of these pornoble places and there was multiple pornography places in Philadelphia within walking distance of City Hall. Jesus. The police department clearly knew what was going on and they had been involved in numerous raids. And think about it. You guys, I don't know if your parents or you have children or grandchildren,

but here you go, you have, you have, in Philadelphia, it was like the engines running, the car is driving down the street, but no one's behind the wheel. Right. Who would put pornography establishments with live sex shows and movie theaters and dodoze, and blow-up dolls? Who would put a kitty or arcade and something like this and and give it licenses and permits to operate? Yeah, who agrees on that? Who lets lets that fucking happen man? It's unbelievable and now this

Ed Rendell he actually got busted he was actually a part of the Haiti. Well, connection tying into all that so a top strategist for Rendell's 2006 re-election campaign was no one else but Tony Podesta. And for any of us that are in this realms that know a little bit about Pedogate in general, that's a name that keeps on popping up in all the different circles. Friends with Dennis. Yep. So in 2010, the Haiti earthquake, Rendell was also reported to have been involved with the child trafficking incident.

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sent during this crisis revealed that behind-the-scenes discussion of Rendell's Haitian efforts, Hillary Clinton's aides characterized Rendell as extremely motivated to remove the children from Haiti as quickly as possible. It's fucking disgusting. And just savage. Like, you see an incident like this and you're like, hey, this is the time to make our move. And as we know that Laura Sillsby of the Habitat for Haiti, I believe is a group, who worked for the Clinton Foundation, was not only arrested, the Habitat for Haiti, I believe is a group who worked for the Clinton

Foundation was not only arrested, she was tried, convicted, and thrown in jail with the connection to in fact the Clinton Foundation and a gentleman right now, and I can't look it up on my phone right now, but he was just convicted in Miami. He was part of that group that got arrested with Laura Selsby, who was in fact convicted recently and found guilty of child molestation. He was part of that group as well. And actually, Ed Randall, according to this disobedient article, disobed media article, was so aggressive

that people around him were getting very nervous about what he was doing, allegedly, and that they needed the Clintons to do an intervention because he was so out of control. Did you have any interactions with Ed yourself at any point? Let's just say, me and him were in the same building. When you say interactions, I mean, there was plenty of interactions that were for political fundraisings and doing this and that, but there was a certain interaction in 1978 before he became a discourtorney that I shared with law enforcement, but I won't get into that because I don't need to be sued.

No, I respect that. I respect that. Let's just say that the law enforcement are clear of what my allegations are with Ed Rendell before he became full of his discreterning. Hold on one second, Greg. What was this? Okay, so we just, you were in the same building with Ed. Thank you for dealing with the technical difficulties.

It's okay. This, this happens. This is, this is podcasting. What did you want to get into with him? So Ed, while researching your story, I came across the thing very fascinating, that involved you coming across certain very Sensitive material in the case of films. I was wondering if you'd be able to expand on that and talk about it

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DeBonardo and others. And they were looking for young street tough guys to kind of, you know, run guns and run drugs and, you know, protect their interests from other criminal types that was there. Because a lot of the times in these porno places, you had pimps and drug dealers, and large groups of juveniles that we used call them, them, rob rob rob rob rob rob rob rob rob rob rob rob rob rob rob rob, the, the, th, th, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, th, them, th, th, th, th, th, them, them, them, them, there because a lot of the times in these porno places, you had pimps and drug dealers and large groups of juveniles that we used to call them work packs, robbing people. So there was a lot of degenerates of society coming there trying to wreak havoc in Gotham City. And our job was, in addition to running guns and drugs and this and that and fence and stolen property, is to beat a muscle behind the hustle........ So, that, so, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and thi. And, and thi, thi. And, and thi, and thi, and there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was thoes, and th, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th, and th. And, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and their their their their thi. And, and their thi. And, and the. And, thea, and thea. And, and thea. And, thea. And, thea. And, theananananananananananananananananananananan, and thea. And, and drugs and this and that and fence and stolen property is to beat a muscle behind their hustle. So in 1980, I believe it was more 81. We would go to this place in New Jersey and they would bring like kind of questionable

pornography and usually it was beastiality films or something to that effect. And other the guy would come down from his guy's name was Richie and he would come down to from New York and North Jersey down to South Jersey and we'd meet him in the parking lot of his diner he'd open his trunk and we'd take him and put in our trunk and take it to fill it up you. And in my job, part of my job, which was kind of, I was, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and thi, and th. And, and th. And, and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. And, and the the th. And, and the other, and th. And, and th. And, and the th. And, and th. And, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And the. the. And, the. And, theat, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And the. And th. And th. And th diner, he'd open his trunk and we take him put in our trunk and take it to fill it off you. And in my job, part of my job, which was kind of, I was, you know, whatever they needed to do, you did. So they, they told me to come in and it, this, when we talked about film, we're talking like 18 millimeter, 16 millimeter film, like. made of film like large reels of this. Right. So we so my job was to put it on

at they had a place of 12th in chess 12th and Arch there was like a big warehouse and you put it in there and they kind of run it through this machine and it projects the on the wall an image and it runs the whole reel so you can see if there's any imperfections and usually was like guys fucking like a fucking a chicken in the ass and shit like that and which is sick in itself right occasionally you'd find some kitty porn but this one in particular thing and I believe it could have been 82 but I believe it was 81 there was a snuff foam.

And the snuff foam is not... A snuff film is kind... Now keep in mind, I'm beyond my abuse years and now I'm just this general practitioner of crime associated with the Gambino crime family and these pornography establishments. But I'm not even 18 yet, I believe I was probably 16 going on 17 or somewhere around there. I believe I was 17. So what happened was I see this and it bothers me. And it's clearly it's children, it's like a kiddie-poor thing, but now, but the kids get murdered in the end. So I start complaining about it because that bothered me. Yeah. When I go and complain I

complain to this guy Fat Chuck E. Smith who was this motorcycle gang mob associate and I started complaining to him and a few other people about this thing and they're telling me it's special effects. And, you know, in my life living on the streets, I've seen a lot of violence. I've seen a lot of dead people. And this was not that this was no special effects. This, so, like kids being having sex and didn't get mold by pit bulls and, you know, other things, kids being drowned and kids being run over by cars. Fk. Like, this is real th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi thi thi is is thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. This is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, th. And, thi. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, run over by cars, and kids being choked at that. Like, this is real.

This is real shit. So I started complaining, then they told me, shut the fuck up, and you know, don't make a big stink about it. And one of the mobsters that was involved in the porno place was an extremely violent mobster. His name was Roy de Mayo. And the Mayo was kind of not business partners, but he ran porno places too under the Gambino Crime Family in partnership with this guy Robert D. Benardo. And we knew Robert D.B.

And so rumor comes up that the Mayor's pissed off at me for fucking crying like a bitch. So, when the mayor... Mad at you. Met at you. Met me because I complained about it. Heaven forbid. Now, is this Ed Rendell the mayor, that mayor? Or is it a different mayor? No, no, no, no, they didn't have nothing to do with that? Okay. Okay. Okay. Got you. He's a I'm not saying that he's not assorted. I totally understand. But he had nothing to do with that. Right. Okay. So. So, Roy de Mayo. It was his name. And he was pissed off. So I kind of said like, you know, with Paul Costano finds out about this shit, you know, we were kind of told, I thought was, you know, under the impression that no one's supposed to fuck around with this shit.

And so they said, don't make a big deal, blah, blah, blah. At the time, Roy de Mayo was a big, the violent, he had a violent mob crew in the Gambino crime family and he was a capo with the Gran Bino crime family and he was contemplating killing Paul Casalano and taking over the mob. This is Boyd John Gandhi. So they there was animosity between the two. And they, Paulualano, there was a lot of law enforcement pressure regarding kitty porn and kids hanging around prostituting. So he kind of said, you know, keep these kids to fuck out at these porno places. And I don't want to see no fucking kiddie porn because I'm not going to jail for kitty porn.

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in and out of trouble. And I was getting so much trouble that law enforcement was fed up with me. And keep in mind, I'm 17 years old. But out there doing stuff and I get locked up in Jersey and if I'm found guilty, it's possible that I could do three to five years in prison and the prison I would go to is railway state penitentiary. So for a kid that was, you know, 17, I'm tough. But you know, state penitentiary that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thenitentiary So for a kid that was, you know, 17, I'm taught, but you know, state penitentiary, that's the big time. Right. Everything else besides that

was juvenile detention centers, you know, and these other juvenile facilities that deal with trouble boys, but going to a railway state penitentiary is the big house. So Ronald Reagan is the president now, Now it's 1982. And he's doing a program with kids that are at risk instead of going to prison, they can enter the military. So I see that is, so someone came up and say, hey, would you be interested in doing this? And I said, let me think about it. Baba, G.I. Joe. I think I'll go with Falk and J. I'm joined the military and that's how you got out. And that's how I got out. Wow, man.

Greg, I gotta be honest with you, man, I'm so thankful you came on. Final things, and final question, then we'll let you go. Are you worried for your safety at all talking, talking, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and thi, and thi, thi, thirty, thirty, thirty, and, thirty, and, th.. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, and thi. And, and thing about this stuff? Nah, a lot of the guys that do anything to dangerous. I mean my job gets trained, I work for, you know, the city of Philadelphia. So occasionally certain politicians say I shouldn't be talking about this. But you should. I think, you know, no, you should. And my thing is, yeah, you should be talking about this. And it always, you know, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, th th, why, th th th th th th be talking about this and and and it always you know why would any politician because keep in mind Ed Rendell and others are very

influential in the city of Philadelphia with the political circles and and and the philanthropist that are still alive that I mentioned reported to the FBI is still influential so they don't like their names being put out there and they'll do whatever they can to discredit it or like I like other. And I remember a couple people say, look, you got to be careful because you can lose. As far as if someone comes up to me with some shit, they better fucking kill me because guess what I'm going to do what I got to do to survive. And even though I'm a nice guy today I wasn't th. I wasn't th. I wasn't th. I'm a nice guy. I'm a nice guy. I'm a nice guy. I'm th. I'm a nice guy. I'm th. I'm a nice. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm a nice. I'm a nice. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm a nice. I'm a nice. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr. thr. thr. to to to the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th a nice guy today, I wasn't always a law-abiding citizen. So violence to me is, you know, to me, that's, you know, that was my life. Right. Violence is not the answer until it's the only answer.

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That's what's going to happen. Well I hope well you know I hope it doesn't happen and I can't thank you enough. Yeah, Greg, we appreciate your honesty. We appreciate your honesty, anything we could ever do for you. We are more than willing to help you out in any way possible. And I hope that people hear your message and I see you're popping up at more and more places. The community is strong and we support everything you've done and your bravery for coming out. And thank you so much for spending Monday with us telling us your story. You guys, take care.

Greg, you have a great day. Take care. Bye. Thanks, Rich. Man, that was crazy, that was crazy, that was heavy, that. Thank you guys for listening. Some of you guys might be you know the YouTube video is going to be put together the best it can and all that stuff. I mean fuck man what a crazy ass fucking story. Oh man what a crazy story it is now time for... Open your mind.

Aaron, Aaron. Don't be an idiot. Open your mind. WAKER! WALLOW! THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE THE Tell you, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up. So I strongly suggest that you wake the fuck up. Get filthy animal. Aaron, thoughts?

I mean, it's incredibly sad that that's going on. Does it, does it open your mind that maybe there is something going on? Because I know that you're not necessarily a pedo-gate guy, but the connection to a lot of these DNC high-ups, does it make that possibly something could be going on? It doesn't matter who they work for. If they did this, they should be held accountable and thrown in jail. I agree with you. Ryan. This is a fucking bummer-assed episode, but it's unfortunately, this is the truth.

This is what's coming to light, and this is just one of many victims out there. And I'm, I don't know. I don't like doing these episodes, dude. But we gotta get the word out because you know it. There's kids, man. Kids are being hurt. Kids are looking Kansas, man. 80 foster kids disappeared. Nobody knows where they are. Why are we fighting? Why are people calling us crazy people? When all we're trying to do is like, dude, something's going out with these fucking kids, man. And we got to protect them. And these, I would like to do stuff about the podcast we did last night, Bobby Lee.

I love if every podcast was fun like that. Yeah, I think what Greg's doing is important because it will encourage others and maybe inspire others that are too afraid to stand up and speak to just to go ahead and voice their unfortunate experience. You want someone to come forward? You got it. Greg Buccioni is the guy who stepped forward and said he saw, he saw, he witnessed it, he went through it. Now not all these guys did he do stuff with it, but he saw him there with the people doing it and you know what man, what's the old saying in recovery? You hang out in a barber shop, eventually you're going to get a haircut. Yeah you don't have to live in fear and shame and guilt. You can, um, if something fucked up has happened to you in any situation. the their. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, the the the the to, they. I, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi. I's, they. to, to, th. th. th. He's, th. He's, the the th. He's, the they. He's, they. He's, they. He's, they. He's, they. He's, they. He's, the the the the the the the the the the the the th. He, thi. He, thi. He, thi. He's, thi. He's, the thi. He's, thi. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. up has happened to you in any situation,

you can come forward and talk to someone. Like he said, he was on the place of doing some extreme violence and I'm glad he didn't because now he's on the other side of the fence. Oh man, really fucking hard thing to, um... tune in next week. We got a really good episode coming for you guys. Well, yeah, man, that is going to be one the best things we've ever done let's see if we got any new fucking... You want to do? Okay you wanted it? Are you okay dude? I'm fine I need a hug. I need a hug. Guys we are we are doing our best to take care of you guys and to basically be... If you guys are in the LA area, come out to Comedy Chaos, we'll laugh it up. Come out to Comedy Chaos, we'd love to see you. We're thankful for your support.

That was a dark episode. It's hard, but it needs to be done. And if you know people don't believe you when you say this shit, have them listen to the episode. Ryan, I love you to death. Thank you for doing so much hard work on this. Guys, check out the Patreon. We got a new episode. That is going to be insane and we appreciate you and we will see you next week.

We got a great episode. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks for listening to Timfoyle Hat.