Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - Tin Foil Hat Ep 10: Duncan Trussell

Episode Date: March 13, 2017

Thanks for tuning into another episode of Tin Foil Hat!!! This episode my guest is the one and only Duncan Trussell. On this episode we discuss.... 1) Stand Up in NYC 2)Fascism 3)Wikileaks 4)The Deep State 5)World War 3 6) Just Love!

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My good friend, who I love the death, the one, the only, Duncan Trussle everybody. I was like, are we having experiencing problems? No, that's just Duncan. Duncan, thank you for coming on tifoil hat. I know you've you you you you you you you you you you you you to you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi ti. ti. ti thea toooooooooooooooooooooo, that's just Duncan. Duncan, thank you for coming on Tim Foyle Hat. I know you've been moving to New York. You moved to New York, how's it going? I love it here. I mean, we're about to get slammed

with some kind of apocalyptic storm. So people are freaking out a little bit, but other than that, it's great. It's wonderful here. Do you like snow? How are you doing with snow? Have you ever had snow? I love it. It's, yeah, man, I grew up on the East Coast. So when I was growing up, we would get snow, and it was, I still, that part of me that, from when I was in public schools that would be freed from public schools, if you got the right amount of snow, it it it it it, it, it still, it still, it still, it still, it still, it's to to to to snow. It's to snow. It's to snow. It's to snow. to snow. to snow. to snow. to snow. to snow. to snow. to snow, how to to th. th. How thi. How thi. How thi. How thi. How thi. How thi, how thi, how thi, how thi, how thi. How thi. How thi. How thi. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. How th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi be freed from public schools if you got the right amount of snow, it's still there. It still gets happy. Yeah, snow days. Snow days. It doesn't have me at all. Yeah, snow days. You want to understand how fucked up public schools are on a person. The fact that somewhere inside of me there's still a sense of relief at the approach of an imminent blizzard because when I was younger that would relieve me of having to go

to a fucking penal colony for kids. It's still in there, man. It's crazy. I don't know if you remember that specific joy. Oh yeah, dude. I used to love Snow Day. Something that kids on the West Coast, Southwest, will never understand.

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So comedy. Are you getting up in a lot of places? Is your evil plan of getting up, working on your act a lot more? Is it paying off? Is it all coming together? Yeah. Paying off, man.

Yeah, definitely. I mean, stage time is the secret to comedy, right? That's why everyone is like, if you thiii. thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. the the th. the th. the the the the the the th. the th. the th. the the the the the the the th. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. Here, you. you. Here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, the, here, the, here. Here, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. you. th. th. you. you. th. th. th. th. Here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, the experience of like, fuck what, wait, I just had like a weird set in front of this crowd, a killer set in front of this crowd. That's what I mean? You get to, you could actually, you can evolve a joke through the night, you know, because you could, it could start off brand new and by, you know, 1245, you've got something that's like, shit, this is already got legs. And I have that in one night. So it's pretty cool. It's it for me, just because in LA I was only going up once or twice a week at the comedy store and got a drive to get there.

It's like a 50 minute drive for me. So it was just too much shit in between me and the stage out there. Whereas here, get on a train, take a nice walk, and bam, you're in this awesome world. How you doing with the train? Do you get in it down? Yeah, it's, I mean, once you, the moving to New York is hell. It's hell.

There's no way around it. It sucks, especially if you're moving across the country, because you have to get all your shit into a goddamn moving truck and you know pay a lot of money to get hauled up. You're basically buying your stuff again. Yes. When you move across the country you're just paying for your stuff twice. So you get your shit over here but then you got to find a place, but to find a place here you know, it's a nightmare situation. If you get a realtor, but that costs, you know, a percentage of your rent for the year, so it's expensive as fuck.

It's just expensive, man. Everything costs. But once you're situated here, suddenly, like, I live right down the street from like two really nice grocery stores. Rest, like the best, every restaurant is the best restaurant in LA, you know, like everyone is the coolest, oh, some kind of Korean, Korean soul food, fusion with drinks served in light bulbs. Okay, yeah, that's two blocks away from me. Wonderful. I'll take that. You know, like, it's the best r-raum. the best ram. the best ram. the best. the restaurant, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, bulbs. Okay, yeah, that's two blocks away from me. Wonderful, I'll take that. You know, like, it's the best ramen you ever ate, so it's decadent and wonderful once you're here.

But getting here, and the people here are really sweet. That whole fucking thing about angry New Yorkers is bullshit. It's weird. It's not really there, right. No, it's not there at at all thia thia thiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. that's, that's, that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. theeeeea. th. th. th. theeea. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. it's not there at all. Like everyone feels like they're in it together here, whereas in LA, it's kind of like, because of the distance between everyone, you can really get in your own little blank space, you know, and sort of not have to see human beings outside of your car window. Especially your old place.

Your old place was like so high up in the Pasadena Hills. You literally would never have to talk to anybody if you really wanted to. That was a problem. I mean I wanted to see what that was like but that was not what I wanted I guess. But I love so the answer, I love New York and anyone, you should move, anyone like you should come out here for a few months anyone should who wants to do comedy because it's so great let me ask you are comedically how are the comics treating you are are I mean because go on oh I thought you're gonna ask how are the comics yeah are they are they cool are they are they cool are they like you have you have you been accepted into a bunch of scenes I'd love to know to know how it to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to ask how are the comics? Yeah, are they cool? Are they cool? Are they like you?

Yeah, they're great. Have you been accepted into a bunch of scenes? I'd love to know how it went. Well, I've been going up at the stand a bunch. And so I've been hanging out with comics out there. I've been spending a little bit of time with the legion of skanks. who are fucking hilarious and then like, they're awesome. And then, you know, yeah, I met a bunch of comics. It's, it's, it's there, it feels like, it just reminds me of the, you know,

any comedian community is generally pretty cool, man, out here in particular, like, I, I don't know, I mean, I feel like in LA, I wasn't hanging out at the comedy store because I was driving, you know, and so you've, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I, I don't, I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I the, I the, I the the the the the the th, I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, I the the the the I wasn't hanging out at the comedy store because I was driving, you know, and so you've got to like, I don't know, there was a bunch of just shit going on there that was keeping me out of like, enjoying like the community of comics as much as I, as I do here. But yeah, it's cool, man. Yeah, so the definitely just after, they're sweet, man. I don't know. like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, like, like, like, like, like,. Yeah, so the definitely just after they're sweet man. I don't know like like most every comic I met out here is cool you get in the best comedy conversations.

I mean they really take it seriously you know like they're working so fucking hard out. And they're not many of them are doing comedy to do comedy. No, yeah, you know, there's no big difference between the two scenes. It's like it's more comedy out here, where out here it's, it's multiple, you're working multiple disciplines. That's right. You're working on your acting, you want to get on TV. And that's a, dude, of course, I mean, Jesus, for if you want to be an actor, clearly that on TV, that's the place to be. But it's nice out here because these comics, man, they're just doing comedy, they're like absorbed into the process of it, in the process of like writing.

You just get into some, you know how you get in deep math, comedy conversations with people, yes, yes. Like, or some of them will like watch my set and then like, well, like, I've gotten such great advice about jokes and just general like shit about like, just basic like math and it's been really useful for me. So I, it's, it's glorious. That's amazing. A lot new, a lot new, more guests, probably. You have a bigger pool now of people you never drew from for the podcast. I saw you at Abby Martin on, who I'm a huge fan of, and how'd that podcast going.

It's got to be cool to be getting a new pool to draw from. Yeah, well, it's that's touf for man. I mean, that's one thing that's like, in LA, like, you know, all my friends were there and like people that know me and that I could just be like, come over, let's do the podcast, because I've known him for years, but here there is a little bit of extra, like, on my part, like a little bit of extra like nervousness or something about inviting people over, just because, you know, they don't know me as well. I don't know, man. So it's, it's, so I've been Skyping more podcasts than doing a lot of podcasts.

Also, I didn't have my podcast studio set up fully, and I'm still not completely there yet. So I've been Skyping a lot of shows, but Abby was great. That was a controversial episode. Why was it controversial? Well, but for a lot for two different reasons. So in that interview as we talked, like my view on what's happening right now is that extremism manifests obviously on both sides of the political spectrum. That is in fact where it manifests. Yeah, so people who are like in the far left, as it's called, and those are like the Antifa people who are Marxists, and that's not a, like Rush Limbaugh yelling out, you guys are fucking Marxists like they're really communists. They want a violent

revolution and I say this with a little bit of authority that maybe shouldn't be there only because in a nearby like activist bookstore I was able to find a book from 2001 written by the Antifa and and they're you know they say in it we're they're we're communists and we're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. from 2001 written by the Antifa. And they're, you know, they say in it, we're communists. And we think it's funny that people are upset when we're breaking windows or using violence to achieve our political goals, because that's our technique.

That's what we do. Yeah. There's no, so that's, you know, extremism. For them, they would say, well, yeah, it it is it is their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the. they're the. they they they they they they the. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the. they they the. they they they're the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theateateateatea. thea. thea. theatea. theatea. theatea. theateatea. thea. thea. the. th no. So that's extremism. For them, they would say, well, yeah, it is extremism. And the reason we have to be extreme is because the current political situation in the world, where we have a corporateocracy, people who are being ground up by the gears of the corporate machine is more violent than the intermediate violence that would be required to take the fucking thing down and reinstate or put in for the United States, a socialist slash communist centralized economy. So that's extremism and it manifests as we've seen in violence and

the suppression of a person's ability to get in front of a university and spew out whatever the fuck it is they have to say. And I've always thought colleges. So let's be open-minded. What is the, what's your take on George Saros and his supposedly paying goons off that a lot of these, this violence are paid protesters who are looking to just tarnish of movement and just cause more chaos and not so much in what you're saying is that you know a violent way to end a more violent dictatorship but more in the sense that they're just trying to scare people at home not to join by causing pure chaos

and that everybody's on Cirrus's payroll. Listen man I, unless he was like, you know, the black block and those Marxists, that's not, that's been around for a long time. I don't think that's being funded. Right. I think that's a real, that's a very real, um, that's a very real, um, that's the communist, it's really interesting man, because the far left and the far right agree on something, which is really curious. They have a mutual enemy, which is globalism.

They both don't like globalism. And, but they, it's for different reasons different reasons you know and this is why Hitler you know hated the fucking commun fucking ass kicked. But he went in there wanting to like take out communism you know and so and that's as fascist as you you don't get more fascist than Hitler. We are. You know I mean you do you get like all the other fascists but Hitler was a fascist and they hate the communists. The communists don't like the fucking fascists, you know? And so these, it's really curious how you have these opposites that both dislike the idea of like globalism. Because the, certainly the Nazis didn't want there to be some kind of multi-ethnic global society.

That would be the end of humanity as far as they were concerned. Pretty much the worst thing that could happen would be some kind of multi-ethnic cultural mixing pot where people of different races mix their genes and thus forever dilute the Aryan bloodline which they insanely thought was supposed to be the genetic structure that was going to like bring humanity into the next age of perfection right so and then the left, they don't want a corporateocracy. You know, what they don't want is for capitalism to spread unfettered around the entire planet, and for the people at the head of, like, massive corporations

to have any control over laws anywhere, you know, much less around the entire planet. Yeah, you know, so these two people are afraid of, a one world order, right? Yeah, yeah, there are, well, it's not, I mean, I don't think, actually, I don't think it's the one world order. I think probably there's people like when you consider that like Elon Musk or the idea of a type one civilization, a planet joined together, utilizing all the resources on the planet, putting our heads together to like figure out how to overcome the gravity well that's keeping us stuck on the planet so we can migrate and like go to other

planets and maybe figure out a way to use technology to double the human lifespan or all the things that could happen if an entire planet spent their time not on military budgets but on budgets for yeah extracting resources and a environment. So if you look at that perspective that one world order sounds great like a that one world order sounds great, like a Star Trek One World Order. Yes, yes. Everyone's smart, everyone's in some cosmic university. And we're all like, I live in the part of the world

that used to be America. But now it's one planet, and it's a planet where we're all dedicated to like a life of pleasure and productivity and advancement for the species. It's some like, you know, sci-fi version of the world which we all secretly would probably probably want. Yeah, you know, on paper it's not fucking great. I think we would all be really good at getting along, loving each other.

I watch Star Trek and I think by that time, everybody's just going to be androgynous cross-dressers. So we'd be like an androgynous cross-dressing fucking society that would love each other and just everybody would be into each other and I see that happening eventually. I do believe in that. I think the problem is always like, you know, I've always said this like if you want to bring peace together, just start getting rid of alpha males, because there's always going to be this guy who wants to rule everything, and you always, it's always something where the powers that be get the poor to fight over nationalism,

ethnic groups and all that stuff, just to keep them from paying attention to what's really going on, a smoke s smoke s smoke ss, to to to to thaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tho, thia, tho, tho, tha, tho, thoomomome, thi, thoomoma, thoomoma, thooma, thooma, tho, tho, tho, tho, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their just to keep them from paying attention to what's really going on, a smoke screen and all that stuff, you know, like, oh, you can't make fun of my group and even though like a poor man has very little, I don't care what religious group or ethnic group you are part of, a poor man has very little in common with a rich man of that ethnic group. But nationalism and and just like racial pride in your group, that is I think a diversion from paying attention to what's really going on. And that is like there's a power group out there of people who are manipulating all of us and making us fight

over dumb shit why they just fucking rape and pillage. Well, there's a lot of, I mean, there's a, when you look at the resources of planet earth, exploiting any resources are usually very profitable. So I can be the person who has the technology to extract oil. And if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I've got enough money, So I can be the person who has the technology to extract oil. And if I if I can if I if I've got enough money to do that, I'm gonna make so much money. And it goes for all resources.

It's an obvious thing. Water, you know, God, Jesus, if you can control water, shit. That's what Nestle's trying to do that. They are taking water without permits. Yeah, right. Water, food, anything like that. The internet, any, all of it's a, you know, a resource that if I can control them, most of it.

Then I am going to make lots of money or have lots, really lots of power. Because people who have lots of money stop caring about the money they want the power. Yeah. So the source that you'll never really hear, even though there's an entire incorporations, they have a fucking branch called human resources, HR. But the human resource on planet Earth is a resource that is very, very, very powerful. And if you can control it, harvest it, make it move according to your whims, then you're going to be set. And this is the art of imperialism, this is the art of being a king, a queen, whatever the fucking thing you want to call yourself is you're a people controller. You control the resources of people, of the people. Yes. And

to control the people, you have to use technology just like any other resource. And the technology is usually called propaganda. And so by using propaganda, I control the human resource and I make it move in a kind of rhythm. And that rhythm is the rhythm of whatever society that I happen to be controlling. Right. And I would imagine because the human resources, you have to get all the other resources, you need to have some control over the human resource, right? So, that, that would mean that, that would mean, the that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that the resources, they pre, you have, to get all the other resources, you need to have some control over the human resource, right? So that would mean that if you want to understand how proficient people must have become at exploiting

the human resource, all you need to do is look at how proficient they are at exploiting other natural resources, like oil, like any of them, any mining, harvesting of rare minerals. If you look at how insanely proficient we've become at that over the, uh, since the industrial revolution, then imagine how proficient people have become a controlling humanity as this resource has been being exploited for thousands and thousands of years. Power, yeah. And then when you realize that, so there must be some craft that we're not fully aware

of that people do know. And there's books that you can just buy like the Prince by Maka Valley and or Sunsuz Art of War books that are like just purely about how to make an army work, how to conquer, how to how to control. And I'm sure there's millions of other books that we have no idea about or that just are so like deep and so like academic maybe, who knows? But if you think that like I just had this guy Greg Carwood on, and he does the Higher Side Chats podcast.

It's a wonderful podcast. It's really deep in the conspiracy theories and all this stuff. And he was talking about how this is a very interesting age when it comes to the power elite running a lot of this stuff like how they've controlled the masses and that the internet is so new to these 80 90 year olds and they have no clue right now how to really control and that's why these documents and Wikileaks all all the Hillary stuff that came out and now all this vault seven that went out this is like it's so

new to them that they don't know how to control it and eventually I think they're just going to have to just somehow figure out a way to lock down the internet which I think it's coming with net neutrality and stuff. I think that is a optimistic POV. Okay. His idea is this internet, this internet is a fire raging out of control that they can't shut down. Right. They're confused.

It's like this, uh, savior that is emerged from the people that they can't control the hydra that the people's hydra okay can't stop it right cut off one and there's seven other it's like oh please these are this is the fucking KGB this is the CIA this is the f-fucking CIA whose entire MO has been exploiting things like the internet, exploiting information, like using information disperseal mechanisms to confuse and control people. And so I don't remember who wrote this. I read an interesting blog about WikiLeaks and the premise of it is that if you fucking

think that Edward Snowden, or not Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, is going to be able to stay alive doing what he's doing without the protection of some state entity, you are out of your mind. And so has WikiLeaks, it's not to say the information being released by Wikileaks is not accurate or that the people don't deserve to have the information. We deserve it. We need to know. It's being put on purpose.

If you want to talk about a fucking sure, man, it's like, dude, it's a info bomb. It's a new, it's a form of warfare using the internet. And listen, I don't know about the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole new form of warfare using the internet. And listen, I don't know about the whole Russian thing. I don't fucking know. But I know that we have had these rotten sanctions against Putin for a really long time, and I know that like a lot of saber rattling has been happening. What I'm saying is I don't see why Putin wouldn't necessarily have some reason to I could see why he might want to throw some shit back at us, right? Right. And if you, he's,

he's, and what's really interesting about him, and again, I don't, I don't know, man, the whole fucking Russian thing. Again, what's interesting now is any kind of premise that you've picked up from the mainstream media or from any media for that matter has to be analyzed under a new lens, which is the lens of we don't know if this is real or if anything is real. And I like that. That's the craziest shit, right? You don't know what's planted information.

You don't know what is false flag shit. Like are you trying to say you think, and it's been flowed out before, I've seen on Twitter, there's a whole Twitter dedicated that Wikileaks is the CIA? Do you have thoughts on that? Well I think, I don't know. Well I think it's a question mark as to what that is. But I think it's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the idea, the idea, the idea, the idea, tha, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, think, thi, thi, thin, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, thia, thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is a thi, is thi.a, is thi.a, is thi.a, is thi.a, is thi, is thi, is thi, is question mark as to what that is. But I think it's, I think the idea that Assange is hold up in this embassy and is like making it through meddling with notoriously violent murderous deep state entities by leaking some of their precious information and that he's just okay. Like he's okay.

He said nothing will happen in. There's no fucking Polonium umbrella happening. Nothing's getting in there, nothing's affecting him. How is that possible? You know, and if it is possible, then fuck, man, that embassy must be a really secure place. I don't know. I don't know. The information, I 't know, man. I don't know. You know, the information I think is real.

And this is information, all of us, or anyone who's had any kind of, who's even dipped a toe in the waters of conspiracy theories is known for a long time. They're watching us, man. They're in our TV, man. The government can... This actually used to be one of the primary symptoms of a person experiencing a psychotic episode is you begin to think that your TV is listening to you. Yeah. Your microwave is listening to you. And Kellynne Conway just came out and said she thinks that her microwave was being used to listen to him. And then with these CIA leaks, you realize, yeah, well, as crazy as that fucking nutbag

sounds, unfortunately, because of this recent leak, we are now having to deal with the realization that every bit of internet-connected technology in our homes is more than likely compromised in some way or another by at least one government agency, probably more than one, and probably foreign government agencies, and probably non-state-related industries who just managed to get the technology, which is apparently leaked by the CIA. So want to talk about a fog of paranoia that is descended over the subjective psyche of anybody who's been paying attention to the news.

That's a fucking intense thing to deal with, man. And so, you know, that's, and so why is it, why is it coming out right now in this way? I don't know. What's the intention behind it? I just think that if I'm going to utilize a relatively brand new technology to wage a cold war on an enemy of mine, then what I'm going to do is give them the truth. I'm going to give their country the truth. If they've been hiding the truth from their country, I will give their country their people the truth.

And this is a judo move. And fucking Putin is a judo master. Because it's like, look, bitch, I'm just showing you what's real, man. This is what's happening. Your government is monitoring you, mother fucker. Your fucking Democratic party is corrupt. Yep. Your government is compromised.

It is not a democracy. You have been brainwashed. Here's the verifiable truth. Now what? Now what? What do you do now? You know what you fucking do? You disconnect.

Because I don't see anybody doing what, what maybe would have been done a long time ago, you know, No one's doing that shit, which is what? Revolution? You fucking arrest people. Yeah. Well, you know, theoretically you would have to start arresting, you know, like if it's a democracy, then like people would just get arrested. It wouldn't be, you know, there wouldn't be some weird argument over it. It's just like, yeah, we have to start arresting people who have like implemented any kind of surveillance program that doesn't fit into the Constitution. Yeah. Where are the hearings? Where is the outra-

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to put on a show. But I mean, like, dude, this whole pedogate thing is like, and this, and this, and this, and this, and thiak's, and thak's, thak's, thiak's, thiak's, thiakes, thinks, thinks, the thinks, the the thinks, the the thinks, thinks, the thinks, thinks, thinks, thiakeakeakeakeakease, thiakease, thiakease, thiakease, thiakease, thikekekekekekeke is, thikekeke, thike, thikeke, thiakease, thiakease, thiakease, thiakease, thiakease, thiakease, thiakease, thia, thi, the, the, the the the the the the thinks, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, theaseea thea thea thea him to put on a show. But I mean like, dude this whole pedo gate thing is like and the leaks on this, it's like, dude, I honestly believe Anthony Weiner is either going to blow this thing up or he's going to be dead sooner than later. Like that's what they say. The stuff on his computer was so crazy that there's like either they're gonna arrest everybody or this dude is going to be dead. What are your thoughts on any of that? Well I mean there's a clearly there's a bunch of fucking secret pedophiles in every industry man. I mean the pedilia is like, it's a fascinating form of criminal behavior in the sense that it doesn't, it never really, it seems like it's organized, you know, for it to work, there's

this organizational structure that springs up around it. So this is why we hear about from time to time these like weird busts, networks of pedophiles, you know, get taken down because the, like the most recent one, I guess it was, was it the CIA? Who was it? The FBI? It like infiltrated a pedophile's website? You know about that? Oh yeah. Flicker. Operation Flicker. In which like 1500 FBI agents. Iffiiiiiiiiiiiiii, if th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their, their, their, their their, their, the 1,500 FBI agents, if this is the thing you're talking about, were busted downloading pornography to their child pornography. That's not the one you're talking about? Not the FBI.

I think, I don't remember if it was, who was that did this. The FBI busted them, but it was the, the, um, basically like they found a repository of pedophilia on the dark web, and they, they fucking, did this huge investigation, found where the dude who was running, running it was, arrested him, but didn't shut down the server, kept the server running for a little bit so that they could then like net all the assholes who are like uploading and downloading kitty porn. And so this like exposed, so when you do this, you know, if you bust one pedophile, you're going to find other pedophiles, probably, you know, because that pedophile is exchanging shit with other pedophiles.

And so that's what happens when you bust one, many others go down. And so that's, and that's why you, like, it's always cobbles or clusters of these fucking assholes, you get busted. So in that way, if there were, um, cobbles of pedophiles in the government, for example, in that industry, we know that's in the entertainment industry. That's not fake news, that's real. Yeah, you can hear about it all the time. I can't remember the name of the doc. Hear about all the time.

You know, a lot of famous people are talking about this. There needs to be more protections for kids in that industry because they get exploited and they get exploited in an organized way. This is what got Milo and Milo in trouble. Yeah, it was so interesting with that. He came out about how he got in trouble for that. Yeah, he, they went nuts on him, but they didn't, they don't do anything on Pettogate at all. And I mean, there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was there was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. they they they they they they they Pettogate at all and I mean there was that Ben Swan but he did something and then he just disappeared dude like his social media everything gone now this guy named Brock Pierce there's so many interesting connections of pedophilia to the Clinton Foundation like more than just like well that's just random like you're saying there's within any industry there's some pedophilia going on. And I would agree with that, but when one group... Sure.

Go on. I don't know, I can't, I wouldn't say in any industry. I don't know if it's in any industry, but it's just, it seems to be like a cluster crime. Like, you, you, people don't the people don't the people don't it. People team up to commit the fucking offense. They don't just do it alone. They team up. They have signals. They have ways of identifying themselves to each other. You know?

Pedophilia, that's what we call fucking teamwork. And it's sad, dude, but that's true. So that means that if there were, and also they want to go to places where they have power and authority, it seems like they really like that. So they become priests. You know, they go into weird places where they're like, they could do it without being like suspect as much. They could do it, you know, without like, no one's gonna believe you if you tell them anyway.

Seems to be one of the things that they like to say to folks, to the people they're abusing. Because the other weird thing about pedophilia, it's a viral phenomena in the sense that most pedophiles have been abused as children. So this is the other way that it clusters is that usually like when this shit happens you might you and your friend may have been abused together because you were in the same swimming team or something So, and then you and your friend become abusers together. Yeah.

Because to deal with the psychic repercussions and the shock that comes from being seduced by a fucking adult when you have a 15-year-old brain, no immune, no defense mechanism, no way to fight off the fucking someone who is predatorial, because they're predatorial. Right. They understand these fucking kids are like, they understand their psyche at different ages. If you listen to what that mother fucking subway fuck said, remember what he said when he's talking about like eight-year-olds, he's like, they don't even know what's happening.

You're not even there man Jesus you think they're familiar with the psyche of an eight-year-old and where the vulnerabilities are that they can abuse this per. Fucking nuts dude it tries me fucking nuts. They're predatorial and they're and they're running in packs just like like predators. They run in fucking packs of manipulators, right? And this is where, and so these packs gather together in the places of power.

And that is why it should not be surprising to anyone. If some Kabul of fucking child abusers would, to appear in the U.S. government. This should not be shocking to anyone. In fact, it would be more shocking that it wouldn't be there. Because that seems to be... A big thing is this, is that, you know, the deep state, they say, can monitor or look for characteristics of pedophiles within these politicians and they basically fast-track them. When they realize that they have these characteristics, they'll fast-track these guys, and that way they, when they get them to positions of power, they have a blackmailing angle on these

guys and that's why there are so many of them in there because like they want to control them through this fear. Like, that's what they say is going on Weiner that on his computer. He has so much fucking crazy shit on people that they're gonna go, whether it's true or not it I don't know, it's allegedly, but they fast-tracked these guys. Don't you think, Sam, one of the fascinating things to me is that, you know, take Hillary Clinton for example. Yeah.

You know, I went through a pizza gate phase where I was like looking at it to see why people were freaking out about it. And I truly wanted it to be something like completely like make funnable you know like right oh god you fucking lunatic what are you talking about and then you look into it you look into the you look into the Instagram account you know you see these images that don't seem they're just off man. Something's really off there. The artist, the, something, I don't know what it is, man. The bands have played, there's a reason.

In their videos that are just weird, like weird, weird, like weird, why would that just be in there? Which is okay. Being weird, I'm weird. We have different weirds, but there's some weird where you're like, like the one band, I forget the name of it. There's a video. In it is that that that triangle with the pedo field, the blue one that everyone's flipping out on. That's right there in the video. And you're like, why would you just, why would you th, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, th th th th th th th th th th th th that, that, th th th th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the the one, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the one, the one, the the one, the the the one, the one, the one, the one, the one, the one, the one, the one, the one, like, the one, like, like, the, the I mean I can understand like hey no presses bad press, you know Bad press is good press, you know, and it's just like but that's a weird way to try to get people to look at your band like That's dance with the devil. It's weird It's it's fucking off man whatever there's something off there, but you know to go so for me. It's like, thrown. thrown. to thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi's th. th. th. thi's thi's thi's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th's th. th. th's th. th's th. th. th's th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's the't know. I just don't know. I'm not going to like freak out and be like, yes, this is for sure happening. I, one thing that I, we know has happened is we have had pedophiles in very high positions in the US government. Hastert being one of them. We've had Clinton flying around in the plane with that fucking fucking billionaire who had like you got busted the boys his name they dude with the island you like apparently they're

like yeah Jeffrey Epstein there you go yeah Jeffrey Epstein yeah it is with the with the like and so like so we we'll lead it again it's like that you can just add so for people are skeptical about this stuff, just ask yourself, how many world famous pedophiles are you friends with? How many people who have been convicted of having sex with children have you flown in a plane with multiple times? 25 times to me. More than likely. 25 times.

How many? What if you knew? Let's say that like, you know, let's just say that like I had been friends with Epstein. And now I'm like, look, man, I just flew on his plane 25 times. I had no idea what was going on. And it is a shock to me. A shock. It's like, come on, man. You knew no one would ever believe me. People were like, fuck you, man. You do not fucking fly on some dude's private jet. 25 times hang out on his island and not witness some of the shit that he ended up getting busted for and so you know, at the very least, you know.

He's getting rebusted. He just got re-sued. There's a court case against him now that just happened literally after Donald Trump's inauguration. A woman just is suing him for $50,000 for setting up all the sex capades and all this shit. I also tell you to look up Laura Sillsby, S-I-L-B-Y, look up her, she was working for the Kling Foundation, got not only arrested, but she, in Haiti, arrested, tried, convicted and did time in Haiti for child trafficking. Now works for Amber Alert under a different fucking name

Laura something else. I can't believe we're cool this which I think I might have to go kick some people's ass about it and then look up a guy name Brock. Look up a guy named Brock. Look up a guy named Brock Pierce. Look up Brock Pierce, man. You look up Brock Pierce and you will fucking realize very quickly that this is yet another pedophile or alleged pedophile. He had to flee to Spain because he was about to get arrested.

He was in the Mighty Ducks movie as a child actor. He was part of the Clean Initiative. Now you're like, okay, it's like this is so much smoke. There's so many people associate with this stuff. It's like, you gotta have really bad luck, man. To be have this much shit happen. Don't you kind of feel... Sometimes I wonder I wonder? I wonder, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, the, um, the, the, the, the, the, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, the, um, um, the, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, the, um, the, um, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the, the, the the, the, the the the the the the the the the the thi, the the the the, the, man, to have this much shit happen. Don't you kind of feel... Sometimes I wonder, and if like part of the obsession that people have with this like dawning evidence

that there seems to be some kind of yet another like pedo ring in the US government, is it somehow, it's wea-it's perversely easierring in the U.S. government, is it somehow, it's weird, it's perversely easier for people to deal with that than the fact that, well, you know, I don't have any, obviously there is no evidence that I've seen or heard of that, that like Barack Obama ever did anything weird with a kid. Never heard about that, that doesn't exist, that as far as I'm aware. Well, there's emails that, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it is th you thi- I thi- I do thi- I do thi-it thi-it-it-it-it-it-it-a-a-it, it's thi-it-it-it-is-is-is-is-is-is-is-is. thi-is. thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi. thi, it's thi. thi. thi, it's th. th. th. thi. thi-a, it's thi-a, it's thi-a, it's thi-a, it's thi-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s. thi-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-seease-s. tha. thereeease-s. thi. thi. thi. thi. th about that. That doesn't exist, that as far as I'm aware. Well, there's emails of our pizza stuff. That's about it. Pizza.

But we know, okay, fuck it pizza emails. One thing we do know for sure, right. Is it Obama ordered drone strikes that killed children. Yes. Yeah, well, He did it. Bush did it. Hillary. today. Hillary Clinton. I'm sure his is murdered people. So we know that these people. We don't. We don't. Like, I don't know. And I think the fucking pizza emails are weird. I don't know. That kind of shit, I'm comfortable saying, I don't know.

But what I do know, I do know that when fucking George W. Bush is hopping on the late night shows and being jolly talking about these paintings, that you're looking at a fucking war criminal. A fucking war criminal, dude, who should be hanging from a fucking tree. When I see Dick Cheney allowed to laugh at Trump's inauguration walking freely amongst the war, I'm like, what are we doing? And then we sit there and like, this is what I get upset about with liberals, how they start cheering Bush because he calls out Trump. And it's just like, he's still a war criminal, man.

He still said, ethnic people, women, killed children in a war for profit. And yet, you're willing to look away from all that, simply because he doesn't like Trump. It's unbelievable. I'm so let down by my like how my fellow liberals have just They all they want to do is be right instead of do what's right and which is fuck Bush Fuck trump fuck all those guys because when they get that high up it's hard

They want to be safe. I don't they want to feel safe Sam like you know what I mean like the reason they're that, and the reason anyone is doing this shit, is because it, to, to fucking accept what has happened, verifiably, to accept what has happened is of, is to either put yourself in a moral predicament. And the moral predicament is, well, unfortunately, our government has started wars that have killed innocent, so many innocent people, not just Iraq. We're in seven conflicts right now.

We're in seven conflicts. Yeah. And so it, and these conflicts aren't based on noble intent. You know, like when, when we finally joined the allies in World War II, you know, that, you know, like, when, when we finally joined the allies in World War II, that, you know, that, you know, they-you know, their, their, you know, they're, you know, the, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, the, the, the, they, the allies in World War II, that you know, that's noble. We had to stop that shit. There's fucking, you know, the Nazis were insane. Yes. And they were incinerating people in camps. And so we had, that was noble. So now though, it's like, come on, man.

We know what's happening is a never-ending for-profit industry that is innately vampiric and the people are getting rich and we are the empire, if this is Star Wars, we are the empire and we are doing banking wars right now for fucking centralized banks and oil. We are going in there and shoving it down people's throat, forcing them to have centralized banks and giving us their resources. Our defense, and I've done many military tours, supporting the troops, and I would still do that, but it is no longer our defense.

We should call it our offense. And we are being used by a bunch of people to commit crimes against other people. And bad things are going to happen, man. There is, I mean, there is a real belief right now that we are not almost in World War II, we are in World War II. I mean World War III. We are in it. And right now, China and Russia are talking about teaming up.

And that is because no shit, there's been reports that China's military is about as big as ours now. That is not good. And there's going to be blowback on this shit, dude. There's going to be blowback. You cannot treat your planet. Your fellow beings, the life that shares this plan with you, you cannot treat them like this. Since the dawn of time, man has tried to control man. War, typically, the way war works is I attack your country, and your country attacks my country. So like I'm dropping bombs on you, you're dropping bombs on me. That's the way, you know, wars have worked, you know. Wars work like that. There's a retaliatory strike, you know.

That's a, a lot of countries are experiencing that, you know, and sadly a lot of countries now are experiencing that, you know, and sadly a lot of countries now are experiencing that. They're getting a retaliatory strike and they didn't do anything. Iraq being like, Iraq, 100%. They were just fucking. So, so, in America, our version of war is fascinating because our version of war is one where we watch as somewhere far away people get set on fire.

But we don't go outside and see a smoldering ruin is a form of retaliation. We don't see that. And I hope that that doesn't, I don't want that to happen. I want us to wake up and I think we have to focus, because you're right, the window that you're talking about, that you're looking through Sam, and the window that if I take enough mushrooms will open up for me whether I like it or not, and the window that many people are saying opens up for them during Iowaska ceremonies. And the window that many people are seeing is it looks out in a very dark future. And it's a future where we have become disconnected from nature.

We've become disconnected from the perennial philosophy that has been the compass for our species for a very long time. The things that are important, the things that aren't important, we're disconnected from all that. Because of that, we've been manipulated, because we have placed our, we've made the gauge, the the litmus test for truth is no longer based on reality, but it's based on the story being told to us by very hypnotic billionaires who want to continue to control and exploit the human resource so that they can gain more and more power. It's a form of vampirism. On every level, it's vampirism. We make, we, if I can make you work, I can get your

energy. If I can make you go to war for me, I can convert death into money. I can drop a bomb that somebody, that the taxpayer paid $200,000 for. The bomb incinerates, you know, 150 people, and those 150 people, you know, each made me, I don't know, $1,000 each or $10,000 each or whatever. So by killing that many people, it's crazy. That's the kind of sick metric you get when you pay for bombs. Every bomb, you can kind of, you can do this terrible math where it's like, oh, this bomb will kill on average this many people, it costs this much money, which means that per person I'm making a certain amount of money per incineration. So if like I had a machine, let's imagine this, I had a machine, some kind of weird like, I don't know, a dome of, the dome of darkness that I could parachute or bring to places where I'm at war. And what I do is the dome of darkness, soldiers escort random people into the dome of darkness. They go into this dome, steel doors shut, the fucking thing vibrates.

There's a tube at the back of the dome that sprays out hair and meat and teeth and whatever their fucking their fucking, just all their fucking was in their wallet and just fucking just all the shit that used to be a human sprays that out but then there's this beautiful golden faucet on the other side of the dome and it drips out diamonds into a little bowl which then you take to the emperor and say oh we harvested many diamonds today emperor if that was happening people would be like, no! Yes, no more dumbes of things. They'd flip out, but because the way that the currency is being extracted is chaotic explosions far away that aren't really covered by the media, people don't

think, oh my god, every time one of those explosions happens, there's some dude who probably lives in the fucking Hamptons who's fucking gets an extra $50,000, $100,000 in his account. And that's where it gets weird, where we've got these fucking families huddled together in their beautiful mansions, sitting in front of flickering fires, telling the stories of their family to each other, talking about who is truly running shit, and every time these weird flashes far away, extinguish a subjective reality, destroy a person's grandmother, mother, father, whatever, these people get a little, a little richer, a little more wealthy. And that bit of, that's a hard thing to digest for a lot of people, to deal with that fact.

And as long as war makes money. We label these people whose grandparents, parents, children get ascinerated. We label them when they fight back terrorists. And like, I hate to tell everybody, within the revolutionary war, if you were to talk to terrorists. And like I hate to tell everybody, within the Revolutionary War, if you were to talk to the British at that point, they would talk about those terrorists in America who are trying to overthrow our government and how we were, you know, bad people. I mean, it's just the truth, and it's like really sucks. It's a little more complicated, though, Sam, isn't it? Like a little more complicated than that,

because the problem is like, what do these terrorists have in common? You know, outside of the fact that many of them have like lost everything because of these white flashes of light, you know, and it's broken their hearts. What have they done to soothe that pain? Well, they've organized under the banner of radical Islam. So, uh, yeah, but I have a real problem with that, that label, dude, that we have labeled radical Islam. And I go, is it radical if all this shit wasn't happening? If we weren't dropping bombs and destroying what was going on,

would they be radical? I think when you say the word radical, there's that guy that goes on, he's been on Rogan's podcast, he goes on Bill Maher's podcast and he's always talking about radical Islam. And I go, well, what role does our fucking foreign policy play in radical Islam? Are these guys going to be... What? It's complicated, brother? I used to be...

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company to make those fucking videos and that there's a video of them showing them making the video I'm not saying it's whether it's real or it's not but it's like I mean like I really got a wonder like how much of this this is real. This is real. The fucking Peshmerger fighting like fascist theocrats in, that's real. And there is a, now, you know, I don't know. I don't know what would have happened. But we're dealing with, here's why it's very, this is why we're in a very difficult and hilariously

complicated situation here in this beautiful time period in human history. The technology to build better weapons is becoming increasingly accessible by people who normally wouldn't have access to that technology. So we're talking about, like, you know, you hear about CRISPR, for example, gene editing technology. And right now, it's like, I don't know,

it's in Japan, I guess, or China, in some underground laboratory. They're like making butterflies grow eyeballs out of their fucking abdomens or whatever. They're just rewriting DNA to produce more pot potentially disease-free, more intelligent human beings, but also you could theoretically use that technology to edit like bio weapons, right? Right, right. And we see how technology like, what we're doing right now? This is, you just download Skype, you know,

to a fucking video conferencing thing that works. You're, you know, you're in LA, I'm in New York instantaneously. We're having a video chat that I guess you're putting, I don't know if you're putting the video up somewhere or streaming it or whatever. But if you consider the outstanding that's essentially free now. I mean you paid for your computer, you downloaded Skype, this is free essentially compared to 20 years ago to be able to do this kind of shit you would have to be in a government facility and it probably didn't even exist in so the problem is like these the potential for weaponized smallpox,

the potential for like, you know, someone, I don't know if it exists, but I think it would be a safe to say at some point, we're gonna have 3D printers that print out more than just like plastic or circuit boards. Maybe we could have 3D printers that print out like biological materials, you know? And so then when that starts happening and like people start getting a hold of that, who they don't have anything, man. And they really do believe in heaven.

And they do believe that there is a, just think of what we're saying right now, okay, man, we're saying like, well, you know, our government ran amok, the great dragon got possessed by people who had dark intentions and didn't really care anymore about anything other than making money for their industry. And so then maybe there would be some, what we call a radicalized theocrat somewhere who's like, yeah, you're right. You're right. That did happen because your government has been possessed by Satan.

And we are jihadists who are fighting in the name of God. And we're doing this to do everything we can to prevent this from happening anymore. And no matter how savage and primitive you think we are with our fucking prayers all day long and our bowing down and our like the way we make women dress like beekeepers, we are, we are not responsible for the last major wars. You are, you are, And we're fighting you. Now, I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. I think that's fucking stupid. I think it's stupid because it's like to take on the, to become the demon that you're fighting, you don't come back from that. And I think that's their huge mistake mean if I if you just think about it man.

And again this is not apologetics for some lunatic who's a fucking religious fundamentalist, but if you think just it's important to put yourself in the mindset of somebody who one morning wakes up and wraps plastic explosives around their body and walks into a fucking marketplace. You have to think like, all right, what is that person like? Where is their mind? Where is their mind? Where are they? Where is your mind, if that makes sense? Like, who are you if that makes sense? Who the fuck are you that that makes sense?

And one thing that you are is desperate. Desperate. You're broken. You're broken. You're you're you've been possessed. You have a virus inside of you that is confusing you to the point of going against of the most primary prerogatives in a organism, which is to stay alive. You are fucking overcoming that to to for with because you think you're going to go to some fantasy land. Right. Well, well, they don't studies on it like those guys economically are out of options in terms of procreation. They're out of options because in that area of the world all the rich guys have multiple wives. There's out of there's no real options. There's no real hope and you know you could see happen in this country man. I I mean, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi think, because you th th th th th th th th the thi th thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi think think you think you think you think you think you think you there's no real hope and, you know, you could see it happen in this country, man.

I mean, I deal with recovery all the time, and you see people who just dive into drugs and alcohol and it's not like blowing yourself up, but they can't stop doing drugs because they have no fucking hope. And that's kind of where we're at. There you're out you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you you, you you, you you, you you, you you, you th, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can th, you can't th, you can't th, you can't th th th th thi, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th, you, you, you, you, you, you, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th th th th th th th th th th th th th that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that, that that that that, that, that, that, that, that no fucking hope. And that's kind of where we're at. When you're out of hope you do some dumb shit. Right. And now when, you know, and I'll tell you man, I'll take a fucking radicalized fundamentalist heroin addict over a fucking radicalized fundamentalist any other religion, because, at least the heroin addicts got his pleasure right you know instead of

a god of vengeance and blood so so the here's the pro this is the problem okay the problem is though I do think that exists and I do think it's real and I don't think it's maybe it's been overblown or amplified by the CIA I don't I don't know I think that and a lot of it has probably th th th of it th th of it th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. the th. the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. thi th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the to to to to to to to to the to the the to the. the. the. the. the. don't know. I think that and a lot of it has probably been it's gone into that. It's molted into its current state because of the pressure is being placed on it by the never-ending wars that we are waging against them to get their oil, you know, but whatever is created this kind of like theocratic Voltron thing over there, it's there now. And it's, it's, I don't, I I I I I I I I I I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, itthing over there, it's there now. Yes. And it's, I don't, and so, which is okay, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, over there in the fucking Middle East, fine, fine, fine, fine.

Two hundred years ago, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, who cares? But now, now, now, we're dealing with a real fucking problem here, man. We've got nuclear weapons everywhere. Not only that, we have bio weapons everywhere, right? And so the potential for there to be some kind of catastrophic, catastrophic act of such magnitude that it brings down the economy of the United States, coming from somebody who's doing it in the name of God, the potential for that is so fucking great, Sam. It's so, so great.

Hey, dude. And so you see, oh shit. I agree with you, I totally agree with you. I think it's, I gotta wrap it up, but I do totally agree with you. Sam, if me before, I, you, sorry Sam, if I could just only because it's important to me, all right, please do, please do, please. Please. There's an equal potential, there's an equal potential for the opposite of that thing, because things work according to their opposites too. So, though, yes, it's a dire situation. One where we're we we we we we we we we're their we're their we're their their their their th. th we're opposites too. So, though yes, it's a dire situation, one where

we're all confused and there does appear to be a rapid acceleration towards some potentially explosive event. That explosive event does not have to be horror. It can be something miraculous, unexpected and a million times more beautiful than anything that's ever happened on the planet. And that potentiality is where we should be focusing our attention. I agree 100% or at least opening up to that. I agree 100% Thank you, Sam.

Duncan, I love this. This was so great. I know you're super busy. You just moved out there, you got a lot of shit going on. So the fact you were able to come on my podcast, to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the the to shit going on so the fact you were able to come on my podcast and you know we're gonna talk a little Alster Crowley but I was like we had a really nice conversation going and I really enjoyed it and it's like I love your you know all the information you have and it was just a fun conversation man it was like I know listeners at Tim Foyle High are gonna love it and you know, I think the world of you, you're one of my favorite people on the planet and Just thank you so much for doing it, dude

I'm really happy that you're out in New York doing well and killing it and hopefully I'll be out there to check you out sooner than later dude. I can say without a doubt. I love you with all my heart buddy. I love you too. I love you too. I love you too. And we'll see you soon. Thanks for coming on. Do you got to push anything at all?

Anything you want people to check out? And that's a goodbye. He just hung up on it. Duncan just did a punch-trunk on me. Great podcast. We were going talk about Elster Crowley, but we just got into it, it was great. I know it's somewhat of a little bit of Pizza Gate again. I hope you guys aren't getting tired of that.

You know, when people like Eddie Bravo, Duncan come on, I kind of let them do what they want to do. And I just like to hear their point of view on whatever they want to talk about. So appreciate the kind words. Guys, rate and review the show, go on iTunes, do whatever you. I love doing Timfoyle Hat. Thank you guys so much. You have any suggestions on people you want to show. They seem to be pretty open to doing it. Guys, thank you so much.

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