Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - Tin Foil Hat Ep 17: Tibetan Book of The Dead with Greg Carlwood

Episode Date: April 27, 2017

Thank you for tuning into another episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. This episode, Sam and Ryan, welcome back from the Higherside Chats Podcast, Greg Carlwood. This is easily one of my favorite podcast episodes I have ever done. I so enjoyed this discussion with Greg and Ryan! On this episode we discuss... 1) Trump and April 26th 2) The After Life 3) Psychedelics 4) Heaven and Hell 5) The Tibetan Book of the Dead 6) The Three Bardos 7) The Five Groups of Rebirth

I get a feeling there's gonna be a riot. I don't read the news, baby, because to another exciting episode of Tinfoil Hat. You know, your feedback right now has been amazing. We're very thankful. I mean, I've never seen a show where all the feedback on the, whether it's on SoundCloud, iTunes, YouTube, is all really super positive. Very thankful for that. Very thankful for the interaction you guys have, you know, this podcast as much yours as it is mine and if you guys have suggestion for guests and all that stuff, it's's I'm so blessed you guys enjoy the whole thing. Joining me is one of the most off-the-grid,

motherfuckers, I know. This guy is so off the grid, but he is a big part of the show because he does all the research. Please welcome Ryan Davis, everybody. How you're doing, Sam? Good to see you, too. You guys might, if th, if th, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, is th, is thi, is so, is so, the thi, is so, is so, is so, the the the the the thi, is so, is the the the the the tho, is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the the the, the the the the, the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.. thi. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, th... th. him. Good to see you too. You guys might, if you're listening audio, you might not know this, but if you're watching on YouTube, and the show is available on YouTube, just go to YouTube. to YouTube.com, backslash Sam Triply.

You'll find it. These are the notes. He has freaking scrolls. He busts this tha. And he does sc today, today's a great day because it's a big day in Ryan's life, because Ryan's learning how to use a computer. Yeah, pale. Let's get to Yale.

So, before we get into the whole thing, and I want to ask him about today too, because he's a big day too, just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just, just, just, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, to be.. whole thing and I want to ask him about today too because they's a big day too just in the world of conspiracies. Joining us via the power of Skype is one of the best that does it. I'm always excited not only what he's on the show but when I get to hang out with him because he's just a walking encyclopedia of conspiracy theory knowledge. I'm gonna let him, I'm gonna let him give his own intro because he's known for his intro. So got an intro for us buddy? I do. Folks, Greg Carl Wood from the Hiroside chats here and we may not think about it every day but

the crushing realization that we spend each moment moving closer to or inevitable death is a thought you can't avoid for long. But who really knows what to expect when we all find ourselves born into a world without memory from what came before and no instruction manual for what comes next? Is life truly just a practice run for the man in the clouds to judge our morality and determine which realm will spend eternity in? Is it just one of our many incarnations in a quest to a higher plane, or are we just recycled souls stuck in an Archon Energy Farm doomed to the prison planet and the nefarious death trap our engineers set up from the beginning? Well, whether you're an atheist, inanist, or

God forbid a follower of the snake oil salesman at the Vatican, at the end of the day we have to admit it's just a guess. And that might be the scariest thing of all. that, that might th. And th. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr-a. thr-a-a-a-n. the the thr-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a. And, the the the the the the the the the the the th. And, th. And, th. And, the. And, the. And, the-s. And, the-s. And, thr-s. And, thrace. And, thr-s. And, thracea-s. And, tha-s. tha-s. tha-s. tha-s. tha-s. tha-s. tha-s. tha-s. tha-s. thracea-s. today on Tinfoil Hat, the great Sam Tripoli Ryan and myself will help you navigate the possibilities and I'd be surprised if we don't just figure out the whole damn thing right here. Sam I'm a man. How the hell are you? Doing well. Welcome to the show, Tinfoil Hat from Higher Side Chats, the premier podcast and conspiracy theories. Great Carwood everybody, welcome. That was great. I would love to do. Aaron, honestly, you've been podcasting with me for a couple years. How long do you think that intro would take for me to not only write, but get every word in that correct? It would never happen. You're saying, it would never happen. Great, thanks for coming in and doing the show. Now, we were gonna have you in,

yes. In the studio, but life happened and you have to do via Skype. So I'm still appreciate that you took some time to come on the show, Bud. Hell yeah, glad to be here, man. You got to come out to the live show I did last week at the La Jolla Comedy Store, and you got to watch me yell at 35 people. Thanks for...

You crushed it. Thank you, that's what you're known for. Well, you know, if you say it enough on stage, people start believing it. That's what I've learned. If you say how hard you're crushing, people start believing you're crushing. Great.

Greg, today was a crazy day in the world. Before we get into the afterlife, which is something we want to talk about on the podcast today, today was a, I just kind of briefly want to talk about April 26, today was a big day in conspiracy theories, the world of conspiracy theories. Everybody was kind of freaking out what was going on with Trump. And real quick, in September, on the emergency the emergency the emergency the emergency the emergency the emergency the emergency, the emergency, the emergency real quick in September on the emergency broadcasting signal on the radio a crazy just this weird kind of thing came

out just going Trump Trump trump April 26th Trump so people started freaking out trump people started freaking out when not only did he get elected but here we are in April 26 they didn't know what was going on. Any thoughts on that, Greg? Well, I do think that was really interesting because, yeah, it was something that was up there before he was elected. So that alone is pretty cryptic. And also, there was another message, if I'm not mistaken,

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happened on this day in the past. And there are actually quite a few things involving nuclear tests and stuff that did coincide with this day. So it might have something to do with that secret occult religion, the elite are always worrying about in their numerology. There's always something weird going on with that stuff. There's also the discussion of that there were not just one but two military drills going on in the United States. One was called Operation Gotham Shield, which was supposed to be a big test-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-cult-a-cult-cult-cult-cult-cult-cult-cult-cult-cult-a-cult-cult-cult-culte-culte-a-culte-culteoli-culte-culte-o-cult, the-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s, the the the the the the the the th. th. the-s. the-s. tea-s. teaseaseaseea-s. telelelelea-luuuuuuuuiiiiioluioliioli. telelea-s. the-s. the called Operation Gotham Shield, which was supposed to be a big test run or drill for emergency responses in case a nuclear bomb had dropped. And then, there's also one, I don't know if it ever got an official name, but the, uh, female was going to be running one in the Washington, D.C. area simultaneously. And that really freaks a lot of, in particular, the conspiracy theory community because there's

always this belief that when some kind of tragic event happens, mysteriously and amazingly, there's a military drill going on at that time. Sandy Hook, even 9-11, the San Bernardino shooting, the original one with the quote-unquote two, the Islamic couple went crazy and everybody. During each one of those, there was a military drill going on. Even with the Aurora shooting, there was some kind of drill

or some kind of project that was running at that time. So people started getting pretty freaked out. Right. I mean, at Sandy Hook, they said there were, I think, two or three shooters and they saw, the guys running through the woods. But then this had nothing to do with it, the story was all said and done. the drill narrative. That had nothing to do with it. And so it is weird. But yeah, the drill going on, apparently in New York City is supposed to simulate a 10

kiloton nuclear blast. And also, yeah, there's another one in D.C. And just like 9-11, there were so many people out on drills that there's actually recordings of people in fighter pilots saying like, wait, wait, are you telling me this is actually happening or is this the drill we're doing? Like, I'm not, like they were so confused and it creates that ambiguity and yeah, there was a lot of concern that that would be what's happening today. You know, Sandy Hook was a lot like Sam Bernardino and the fact that, you know, I watched, I've said it before in this podcast, I've watched the story change. You know, we live in LA, it was part of our local news and a story started with three white guys in black military fatigue walked up and

started shooting everybody and then the story changed and I watched it happened in real time to this Islamic guy at the office, hated everybody and to him and his wife who just had a baby three months ago decided to shoot up everybody. And it was just like kind of creepy. Now what also is freaking everybody out is like why these military drills were going on if they even did go on is that Trump had called in everybody from the Senate and the entire state department to come in and he was going to brief them on the North-Colteam.. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to th. th. th. their their th. th. th. their th. their their th. th. th. th. their th. th. th. th. th. their their their thi thi thi their their thi. the the try the the try the. theeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. their thi. their thi. in everybody from the Senate and the entire State Department to come in and he was going to brief them on North Korea.

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because what boosts our economy better than killing some kids? Does it still though? I mean, like back in the day it built, I mean, I mean, look at us, we've been in a 20 year war almost. We've had a weird economy. Like back in the day when stuff was built here, made here, you know, the factories were here, helped the economy. Everybody made money because everybody's getting hired.

Does that still happen as much? Yeah, the business of America used to be business. Yeah. Now, the business of America is importing our culture and exporting terrorism and drugs. I mean, let's just get down to it. That's what we're known for. Yeah, you were talking before people And people, Man in Cash Registers, until the robots take over. Until the robots take over. It's almost like, I was talking about this somebody, it's almost like every

80s movie is coming true right now. The Russians. The Terminators, the aliens all it's all going to be like just this orgy of sci-fi going on at one time. And back, it doesn't sound so bad when you put it that way. Yeah, yeah. If you throw orgy in anything, it sounds a whole lot better, right Aaron? Is that what they say in the Midwest, Aaron? A. their thoo' the sts, thrific pizza? A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A. A. A. A. A. A. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. It's th. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's th. It's is is th. It's is th. It's is th. It's is th. It's is th. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A recall that. Aaron loves his stuffed crust pizza. Aaron, were you concerned about April 26? I know like you're really getting into this conspiracy theory stuff. No. The only thing I would like to have happened this week is for the Armenian genocide to be recognized globally. Yeah, which with Turkey being an ally, that will never happen. It's really crazy. And again, you know, I. It's really crazy, again, you know, I love everybody in Israel.

I have, you know, Israel's no different than America. There's Israelis, there's the average Joe and Schmo, and then there's the deep state, and they're two totally different things. And criticizing one doesn't make you anti-Semitic. You know? Not like a Netanyahu is ridiculous. It doesn't make you anti-Semitic. That's like saying if you don't like Dick Cheney, you don't like America.

That doesn't make any sense to me. You know? And Israel doesn't want to recognize the Armenian genocide because it's one of the few countries out there that still support them. Yeah, it seems so arbitrary to not recognize something that clearly happened. Like, what are you doing? Just, just admit it. Just, I mean, you didn't do it. We, this country makes business decisions. Business decisions, constantly.

And it's like, even when it's not in the best interest of people, they make business decisions. And it's just really sad. And then I want to get in our subject because I know people go crazy on this podcast if we don't stick to one subject, but there's so much crazy stuff going on. Did you see the story where like ISIS apologized to Israel for attacking them? Like, no, I did not. That is insane to me. Like that notion to me is thia, like, like, like, to me is to me is nuts, like, thi thi thi, like, like, like, like, to me is that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, to me, that, to me, to me, that, that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's that's that's thi, like, like, like, That is insane to me. Like that notion to me is nuts. Like you will, like, the ramifications or the implications of that, it's mind-blowing to me. It depends on who ISIS really is. I mean, a lot of people are skeptical because ISIS showed up on the scene with all this

like premium weaponry, these brand new Toyota trucks, they came in with a big convoy, and it's like, who's funding this? Because it popped up overnight. And so a lot of people think the deep state of Israel and America are in cahoots together. So if that's true, and ISIS is... Do you not think that? Do you not think that the... I think it's likely, yeah. I think it's very likely. I'm not... It's the US, Israel, England, you know, M16, right? That's what the British crown? Yeah. That would explain why ISIS offered that kind of apology because maybe they, you know, got their, they forgot to dot their eyes and cross their teas. Don't want to bite the hand and feed you. You never had an older brother that when he's punching you in the face and he said, why you're punching yourself? Yeah.

You never had to be like apologizing, like a little drop spit was about to go in your eyes. So good boy, that's a great analogy, dude. That's totally true. in the fact that my girlfriend Dana, who I've been with for a very long time, don't ask me why we haven't been married, I don't want to get into it, okay? This is, her sister is dealing with terminal cancer, and if you listen to Pundraunk yesterday, it's pretty much off my game, because I thought we were going to have to say goodbye to somebody that we love.

Turned out she just was dehydrated and everything was okay, thank God. But when you know somebody that you've had a relationship with for a long time, that you know them and that there is a set date or a set estimation date. It makes you wonder about death and the other side and what happens on the other side. And I've always wondered about that. I always, always wonder, I remember when I first moved to Los Angeles, I lived in this, uh, this, I'm Melrose in this apartment with a bunch of young people,

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I was an athletic kid, I was like most improved on my high school bowling team, that was about it. But three of us went to play D1 from just my class. So, you know, it turns out that wasn't it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out wasn't wasn't wasn't wasn't wasn't wasn't wasn't that wasn't wasn't that wasn't wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't true. So I think about this all the time. What is the after life? What is first of all I want to get into when you die when you pass away. Well it was interesting you mentioned the acceptance that happens towards the end because a phrase I heard recently is your once the man twice the child and I don't know where it comes from but I think that's pretty profound and that your your life really life really is really is really is really is really is th is th is th is th is th is th th th th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. that that that th. that that that th. that that th. that's that's that thi that's the. that's that's to to to to to to to to to that to to to that to to to to to to that's to to to that's to that's that's th. that's that's that's that's that that's that th. that th. th. that that th. th. that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's the. that's that's that and that your life really is kind of like a big bell curve. And as you start to exit, you start to forget things,

you start to need to be taken care of like a child. You kind of regress back to that form. And it's interesting because if you think of that as a cycle, maybe there's just this part of the cycle that we can't see from this side of reality. And once we get into it, you know, then it seems familiar and then we probably, I would think, I mean, I think now that we come back. I'm a reincarnation guy. I think that's where I put my money on. I'm a reassimulated into the atmosphere, but we'll get into that. 21 grams. What is 21 grams? What is? th? th? th? th? th? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm, th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. 21 grams. What is 21 grams, Ryan and you're, we were kind of talking about this, it's like there was a movie 21 grams, but it's really about, you know, your weight when you're alive versus when you're dead. And when you pass away, there's the theory or I guess

it's been proven that you weigh 21 grams less dead than you do a lie. There was a scientist, I think it was in the 40s. I mean, this is 10 for all that. We don't do a lot of research and we're just gonna go with it. Let you guys comment on the YouTube that we were wrong because that's what you're gonna do. But I think it was in the 40s. And basically, three-fourths of an ounce, theirth, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, and to, to, to, and th, th, th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, we's, th, tha, we' is tha, we'. tha, we don't t. t. t, we don't tha, we don't tha, we don't, we don't, we don't, we don't, we's, we's, we's, we's, we's, we's, we's, we's, we's, we's, we's, we's, we's.. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. th, we's. t. t. t t t t t t t tooo. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today's a today. today. tha. tha. he'd weigh he had this bed and as people would die as soon as they flatline they no long were there they weighed 21 grams less and so he did the same test with animals particularly dogs and they didn't weigh any difference I hate to break it to all you animal

lovers your dog doesn't have a soul oh you didn't do with cats so maybe cat loveers you know cats too cats don't have souls yeah well we'll get into the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the to the to to to the the the the the to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the th th th th th th th tho. to. te te tee an teeee an teeeons. te of te of te of te of te of thoo. th souls. Well, we'll get into the whole animal stuff, but, so that means there is something there, your life force, your soul, or whatever. And the question is, where does that energy go? Mm-hmm. What do you think, Greg? What's your take on this? Well, it's really hard to kind of think of a non-material space and where it would, quote-unquote-quote-quote-a-coe-a-a-a-o, to-o, to-o, to-coe-o, to-o, to-o, tho, tho, tho, thi-o, th-o, thi, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, so-so, so-so, so-so, so, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th-a-a-a-a-a-s-s-a-a-s-a-s-a-a-a-a-a-s-a-a-a-s-a-s. that's-a-s, that's that's that that that that of a non-material space and where it would quote-unquote be. I think it's right here. We just can't see it. It's hard to really say that, but I can't imagine like the soul really going through much of a travel process to get to some other location. Like, that's materialist thinking. That's like reality, our reality-based thinking. I think it's probably here

I 100% believe that your soul gets reassimulated in To the reabsorbed into the energy until you get born again and that there's this whole theory that you go into the light and that? That light is another vagina opening. Well, yeah, yeah, that's uh, I mean, I know we were going to talk about the the ti, the the the the the the the the the the the ti, ti, ti, ti, ti. ti. ti. Tib. Tib. Tib. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi one thi one thi one thi one thi one thi one thi one the the the the the the they one one one one they. I they. I they. I they. I the the the the the the ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I'm one. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. into the light and that light is another vagina opening. Well, yeah, yeah, that's, I mean, I know we were going to talk about the Tibetan Book of the Dead, but that's, yeah. The three levels of the Bardo, which is like the spirit world for them, that's what it is. I mean, some people say there meet their ancestors or something and then the third level is you choose that next life and the journey ends as it began with

a long tunnel of white light and you go into the womb. I love it so let's get into this real quick there's a couple different types of afterlife there is we'll get into all these, there's heaven, there's hell, there's purgatory, and there's reincarnation. All right, heaven is obviously what we've all thought about. You know, we've been taught you, you're a good person, you go to the pearly gates and St. Peter's there, and he's got his iPad out, he's got all your good person or you're a bad person and then you go to, and if you're good, you get into heaven.

Now there's different kinds of heaven, you know, there's, what were you telling me, there was the Viking heaven? So the North mythology, the Vikings believed in Valhalla, that's if you had a warrior death where he died on the battlefield. And Valhalla was a Mead Hall in the sky where the Mead flowed forever and Meat kept on coming. And they could battle one another and you regenerated a limb if it was chopped off. I mean...

It's basically a video game. And nowadays that's just the party after the after party. Well, I completely believe in... If you believe in that, if you believe in heaven my version would be a giant party like you have to be It's got to be like you know the whole theory between heaven was that it was this carrot That dangled in front of you that if you didn't do didn't follow the rules if you followed the rules excuse me you got to go up here And then I got I think it's like you go up there. It's just like go fucking nuts dude right like a conspiracy. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's th. that's th. th. that's that's th. that's th. th. that's th. th. th. that's th. th. th. th. that's th. th. that's th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's got th. It's got the. the. theeeooooooooooooooooooooo. the. the. the. the. the the the the. it's like you go up there and it's just like go fucking nuts dude right? Right I mean that's conspiracy 101 like waking up to that fact I mean I said I told that story about the drug thing saying I was an

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that will fight your wars. You know, of course, yeah. And unless it's an anal with an altar boy, then they're okay with it. Which is crazy, right? which is so interesting. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they, they, they, they, they, they, they's, they's, they, they, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, thin, they're, thin, thin, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they. Which is crazy, right? Which is so interesting and so much of the rules. And this is today, even like, you know, I'm a liberal dude. I'm a liberal guy, I believe in liberal college. I believe that most of whether it's, you always hear people say, I'm socially liberal, but I'm politically conservative or some crazy business conservative. I think all conservative shit is bull shit, you know. I just do trickle down free trade all that even though that was brought on by the Clintons,

it's still a more of a conservative thing. I think it's all bullshit. The social stuff, the, the, the, uh, if you're gay, interracial dating, you're if you're if you're gay interracial dating you remember if you were a white woman who date a black man You were gonna burn in hell masturbation all that stuff like Those were just the kitchen it all turned out to be bullshit and you somewhere in in in Colorado right now. There's an interracial gay couple smoking weed about to get weird and they're the happiest people on the planet. And they recycle. And they recycle. That's true. Right? It's just it's all bullshit. You got lied to. You were told these conservative things just to test you and to make you follow their fuck. It's almost like high school. Religion waiden was like high school. In high school, you know they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. the. the. theea. their thea. their thea. their their their their their their their their their their fuck. It's almost like high school, right? Religion was like high school. In high school, you know, they reward the kids

who follow the rules. And if you don't follow the rules, you're thrown in the principal's office, you're doing detention, and you don't, if you don't assimilate, they pound the shit out of you. So true. I mean, I think th think thin thin thin thin thin thin thu thu thu thu thu thu, I thu, I thu, thu, thu, thu, that, that, that, that, that, they're, their, their, the their their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thr. thro, tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, their lot of stuff wrong, and I think that's kind of why they keep us divided that way, but what conservatism was supposed to be about is smaller government, and the, and I support that, but the problem is that whenever we get a conservative in office, we never get smaller government. It's always bigger and more, and trickle down to that.

It's like, thr give the money to the rich people and it's gonna get down to you. No, they just get bigger, fat or bank accounts. If you wait tables, you'll know fucking rich people don't do trickle down. They tip like shit, you know? The issue that conservatives have with liberals is that liberals support the nanny state stuff, the expanse of government, the globalism, and I do the the the expanse the exp like... To a degree, but conservatives love socialism when it comes to the police force, the military, the fire department, and all that stuff. And like, you know, I got to, there was this comic who's very funny, put out, like, since 1960, the government has spent $3.5trillion dollars on social welfare system projects. And I'm like, yeah, and since 1990, since 2001, the Pentagon is either, you know, spent or, air quotes, lost 13.5 trillion dollars. That's socialism in a different way.

And it's, you know, what I'm saying? If we're gonna spend money on anything, it should be making people's lives better. I mean, who can argue with that? You know, I'm in recovery, and we're gonna get back till afterlife. I'm in recovery, and I listen to some people's stories of where they come from and how they, some people are borne to to to to to to thuuuupopopopopopopopopopo th. thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, thi,'s stories of where they come from and how they... Some people are born into a world of shit. Yeah.

A world of shit, man. And it's like sometimes you need just a little help to stabilize what's going on around you. Because when you fall and there's no way to grab you, you don't have a family, you don't have anything like that, man, you might just keep falling. And sometimes you just need a little bit of help. Now, these people who get bored, like in Europe I saw, that they're now doing something where it's like, you only get so much special, you know,

welfare for so many children, they cap it. Anything over that, you know, now you're breaking it up between three kids, four kids, five kids, whatever it is, you know, maybe that's what we need to do. But I also think, yeah, right? I'm like, nobody wants where nobody works. Nobody wants that. And I think most people would want to work an honest job where they can feel respected about themselves and get it done. But, you know, it's like, people lovethe bailouts of the of all these companies you know in the stock market crash in which they're already planning on getting another bailout. They actually have the bailouts kind of budgeted into their budget. Yes. That's a scary thing right now. We're dealing with the the the funding of the government. I mean this is going to be a serious thing I think in the next couple of weeks. 100% did 100% so back to heaven. I have my heaven and this is how I see

heaven playing. I think heaven I think God is a black British lesbian I think that is the highest purest form of humanity and she she DJs, she DJs, okay? And she's got the best Coke in the world. It is just pure Coke, you can't feel anything, you don't get Coke, Dick. And everybody just fucks. I'm sorry, this is one the dirtier podcasts we've done, but everyone just bones and if a girl gets pregnant, an angel gets its wings. That's what I believe.

Have it's about. Do you guys have any your heavens? Well I like the idea of that for sure I mean but I guess my thing would be all a lot of that is physical-based like without a body it's hard to bang. Without a body it's hard to snort coke and that's one of the things that on one of my drug experiences it was pretty out there, you know, I spoke to an entity and I said, well, this seems pretty sick, so why even have life? And that's exactly what I was told, is like, well, how would you know what chocolate tasted like? How would you know what it felt like to fuck? I mean, that's why spirits come to this material plane to manifest is to have a physical experience because it is different than what's over on their side, which is without anything physical.

So it's really hard to, you gotta think about like just a giant cloud of consciousness and you're in there, but you're still yourself. It's a weird thing, at least that's my impression. Yeah, well, Ryan, do you ever have a swimming pool of LSD. And you just jump in and you just trip forever? You just disintegrate into the, you just meld into the net of Andra and meanwhile you just, yeah. I met a stripper who did acid for 90 days straight.

Jesus. Okay, I'm not a sports fan. Sorry Sam. But Phil Jackson in his autobiography, he did LSD for 30 days straight. And the timeline from that he said he understood basketball completely and he started winning champions with the championships with the Bulls that's his team right yeah yeah yeah I'm telling you as a sober guy I really wrestle with the fact that I can't do psychedelics and I'm trying to find some fine print in which I could work it so I could find like I'm not

really doing it to escape I'm doing it more for knowledge. So I'm I absolutely think you can find that space man. I mean drugs are so different. There's party drugs and then there are tools to expand your consciousness and to really prepare you for death. I actually think the Tibetan Book of the Dead, that's what it is, is a book to train you for the afterlife, to make you prepared for that moment so you're not so distracted by this or that and you actually know what to do. Because I think spirits can get lost and the process can go wrong, and that's what that book was there to teach us. I also think that's what psychedelics thi thia thia thi thi thii thi thii. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. I the. I the. I'm tea. tea. I tea. tea. tha. tha. toea. tha. toea. toea. to to to thea. think that's what psychedelics teach us. And I think that's why they're illegal. Yeah. They're illegal for a lot of reasons.

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Then next would either be Alex Gray maybe tied for a second would be Duncan Trussle. And I immediately think of you, Greg, and I know you've had your experiences. In psychedelic state, you have ego death. I know I've experienced that in the past, no longer. But yes, you get to a place, you get to a zero point field where you understand, it's like that monkey puts his hand into the cage and he can't bring back the food until he lets go, that's a psychedelic trip. You've like, you're the whole time, you're like, oh yeah, I just gotta remember.

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I do not need that. I think you need that. Well, within the, within the, uh, the, uh, the, getting sober community, you know, there's always a battle between prescription medication that you need to take to, you know, because you balances your chemicals in your brain and all that stuff versus, you know, the pharmaceutical drugs in which you help, you you you you you you you you you to you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to to, to, to, to, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th.. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th, the, thin, thin, thin, th, thin, thi, thin, thi, thin, thi, thi, thin that stuff versus, you know, the pharmaceutical drugs in which help you to escape. And that's kind of really what it is. If you're taking it to escape, that's when it's a problem. If you're taking it because you need it to balance you out or expand your mind, that might be something the... I'm not going to see here and tell anybody who's in sobriety to go out and do shrooms and it's okay. That's a personal discussion for you that hopefully, you know, I don't think it leads to anything else. I don't think you do shrooms and now you're like hooked on doing shrooms and next thing.

You know, you're blown strangers and alleys for fucking shroom money. You know, you know, that's a question each person has the thing. Please stay sober if you're if it's made your life better But if you want to figure it out figure it out so there's heaven. There's hell I think there some people think hell is on you know we're in hell right now some people think this is hell Yeah, I don't necessarily think I think it can get worse. I kind of a joke right now that I'm doing that's pretty going pretty well about how? the the the th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. th. th. the th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. that's that's thi. that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi's thi. thi. thi. th. I kind of have a joke right now that I'm doing, that's going pretty well about how, according to the Westboro Baptist Church, everybody's going to hell. If you saw their list of people, and I'm just like, it's gonna be so white in hell,

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Like, in Liberia right now, they're eating people. And not because the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell the hell. thuilipiphia, thu. thu. thu. thu. th. th. thi. thi. thiolu. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi. the. thea. theananananan. thean. thean. thean. theanan. thean. they got to stay alive you know. It's unbelievable. Just depending on where you're out on this planet right now the apocalypse has already started you know we get our nudes feed that it's like down the road but it's here it's just has a knock down our door. Okay you're in Syria and there's robots that come from the sky and the the the robots thro that that th th th th is th is th is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their theyooooooooo-s. their their theyopo. their theyopo. their their the apocalypse is. their their their their their their their they from the sky and drop hellfire missiles on you on your head and you like, that's Terminator 1, that's the opening scene, he steps on the skull. Terminator 1, opening scene for sure, dude. That's exactly what it is. I mean, it's all perspective.

It's all perspective. It's all perspective. To say that this is hell, to say that this is hell, I think is a little strong, but if the the thuuuu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that that that that's, that's, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the, the they. thi. th. thr. thr. thr. thee. the. the. that's, the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. there's some bad stuff going on the Middle East. No one wants to be there. But to say that the earth itself, the material plane is a hell, I think is a little strong, but if you know much about the Nostic belief system, which is, you know, they started out as Jewish and Christian heresies, people who basically twisted the religious text to look at it from different ways. And they thought, you know what, maybe God isn't so good and we shouldn't be worshipping him. Maybe that this isn't the Garden of Eden, maybe this is some type of illusion, that the physical world is some kind of prison planet and that the goal is to raise above it, to enlighten yourselves above it. And I really think there might be some merit to that.

That's where the idea of Archons comes from. They say, well, the being that made the earth in the material realm, he isn't the one true God. He's just one of many, and he's actually pretty low on the totem pole. And he's egotistical, and he just wants people to be in servitude. Are you telling me that the God who created us could be the equivalent of a TSA agent who just bust your balls all the time and is real asshole and it's just like has a little bit of power and has an ego about it is that what you're saying? According to the Gnostics, yeah, they looked at the religions of their day and the leaders and the actions of the churches and they thought this isn't good, these aren't the people

I would want to be following so they th... th. th. th. th. th. th. These aren't the people I would want to be following. So they flipped it and they thought maybe the snake in the Garden of Eden, Lucifer, the Lightbringer, the one who illuminates man, Prometheus who gives man the fire. These are the entities that in all of mythology are punished severely for teaching man information, for enlightening man. So the gods don't want us to be smart. you have these archetypes in the in the biblical scriptures. Right. This is a little prelude to coming up episode.

Yeah, that's insane. So I think there might be some there. And if we want to tie in a lot of things in the conspiracy soup, there are theories, the theories that this is some type of human energy farm that ththe elite in concert with Archons are just milking our energy like batteries, matrix style. I mean, the matrix is a modern representation of the Nostic belief system. That movie, that's exactly, they lifted it all from Nosticism. And that you know, that the material world is an illusion, that there's a real world outside of it that no one knows about.

And you need to wake up to. Is this the assimilation theory? It could go into that realm. The thing I was going to throw in is that some people think that the experiences that people have with the grays, with aliens, that you could take this back to the ancient alien theory that we were engineered by other intelligent beings the same way we're engineering consciousness and machines today, they engineered us and they've been basically letting us cycle through in some kind of death trap for a long time. That's why psychedelics might be valuable and that's what the Tibetan Book of the Dead actually says. There's a line in it where it says, do not be enticed by the soft light of the gods. It is an obstacle to liberation. Thel. the toe. the goal of the bar. I I Ib. the the the the the tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. thae. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. thoe. thoe. thoe. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. That is is is is is is is is is is is is is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It is thi. thi. theeeeeea. theea. thi. theeeeea. the thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi pursue the pleasures of the gods. If you fail the test, you face their alter ego, the wrathful deities.

So you might want to stay sober in this life, but it might not hurt you to take LSD and mushrooms a few times just to get- No, I respect that. Just to get your floaties on and your training wheels for that spiritual world because because because because because because because because because because because because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, to to to to to to to to th. in a wall somewhere for all eternity. Oh god damn it Greg. Listen. I don't want to be in the wall Aaron. I gotta do shrooms. Listen, Ryan, so let's get into the book of the dead man. I'm really excited about that.

And then I, before, you know, we got about 20 minutes left. I want you to give some recommendations on, heresyesy is that what you were just talking? Nossicism? Yeah, narcissism? Yeah, okay at the end I'd love you to talk about a couple books maybe people could read on that because man that was I'm very interested in that stuff. But Ryan, you are you love the book of the dead you were just kind of talking about and you had done some shrooms and had an experience. Am I right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to the the the to to to to to. to. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. to. to. I'm. I'm. to. I'm. I'm. to. I'm. to. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. Or some acid? Yeah, I've had something like that. It was, yeah, I had recently finished reading the book. And I actually was getting my cancer tumor pulled out of me, cut out of me. And they're like, oh, do you get weird round needles?

I'm like, now I'm cool. And then I passed out. And when I opened my eyes, I was like this giant, expansive field of lotus flowers. Really? And I just hear this, whoa. And I was like, oh, fuck. I'm in the first, like, I know what I'm supposed to do. And I see sitting on a lotus flower.

What? An energy like being. I know it's a cuck right now. their tie. right now, but I see this energy beam. You're on Timfoyle hat, you're normal. Yeah, there you go, just tighten it on. And I'm like, what? I know what I'm supposed to do, because the whole concept is to get out of the cycle of rebirth. So you see your Buddha's self. You're trying to get the Buddha's attention,

whatnot. I just went to sit down and it's like, wom and then bam, I was back in the room, flop sweat dripping, like these angry nurses in my face, like, you said you were cool with needles, I was like, whoa, man, they're like, where'd you go? Because I was mumbling, and I was like, you wouldn't believe me if I told you and I know it's all subconscious. I just finished reading it. It was in the back my brain But ever since that day colors have never been bright again like as bright as they were What? Yeah Wow. Like like everything got turned down like a little grayer in my life, which isn't bad my life. My life's fucking amazing, but hey, it's one of those things I had a trippy psychedelic experience with no psychedelics in me and that's????? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's th. that's that's th. that's that's th. that's that's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi's the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th things I had a trippy psychedelic experience with no psychedelics in me and that's the goal really.

I mean, you do enough psychedelics in your life. You want to experience it like they say in Kundalini or through meditation or being in sacred chambers and stuff like that actually getting to a state without any chemicals because we're capable of it. Dimithical tryptamine is in our brain. That's what DMT is. And we can tap the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi the the the thi. thi. Really thi. Really th. the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the goal the goal the goal the goal the goal the goal the goal the goal the goal the goal the goal the the the the goal the th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theoleole of theole of theole of theole of the of theol-c-caduliol-caduli. tho-s. thi. thi. th chemicals because we're capable of it. Dimithro tryptamine is in our brain, that's what DMT is. And we can tap into it. It's released in our deep REM sleep. It's released, dumped into our body right before we die. They've done studies and it's, they think it's a way for us to pass through into the next realm in a more fluid manner. So. Yeah, they teach a lot of bullshit in those years of school, but they never make it to meditation

or any of those real tools that could help a person out. Why is that so interesting? So let's get into this book of the dead. The three bardos, is that what's called? Yeah, Greg, I know that you're well versed in this, give us a little breakdown. So for someone that has no idea, and it's the first time they're hearing, where would you start? Well, from what I know, which is not as much as a lot of other people, but it was written around the 8th century, but nobody really knows how old those traditions are. This is just when it was written down and you found it. I mean, who knows what addition of the book that is anyway.

But the reason we know about it in the West is there was a European folklorist in the early 1900s who heard about it, traveled there, read it, translated it and brought it over here. And it was Timothy Leary who really made it popular again in the 60s because he said that it is a perfect primer for LSD. You know, for people who couldn't understand what that experience is like, because if you haven't been to the spirit world, it's trying to explain green to a blind man. How do you explain the color green to a blind man? You can't do that shit? So he found this book and he was like, check this out. This will get you the the as close as you can get without actually taking the compounds.

And that's what it's all about is training for the afterlife. It teaches you about the out-of-body experience, what you're going to see. It talks about that red light, or that white light. It talks about meeting those entities. But it also says that it can be a type of trap that you really have to keep from getting mesmerized by the you know the bright colors and all the just the sensations around you have to actually progress through some type of bardo system some type of levels to actually get to your next life or you can become trapped and who knows what ghosts really are I mean people who have haunted houses or something like that I mean maybe there are souls who are just lost who never found their way and they will spend eternity stuck in a wall.

Oh man. I believe that you know there's a reabsorption of the soul and it could still fit into this that you you as you pass away your soul gets reabsorbed now you they tend to see that they tend to find that these ghosts are associated with violent deaths like there's always like oh they died this they got murdered here this yeah there's a my thought is that maybe there's a transfer there's a problem with the transfer as your body gets, you know, it starts to get reabsorbed, your energy gets reabs the off, a violent act kind of knocks it off and now it's, now it's in either world.

It's in limbo, right? It's in either. So I always think that's, that's so, I totally believe in ghosts, I've seen it at the comedy store. Oh, fuck. I've seen shit at the store, dude. I've heard the store has a rich history and a lot of lore around that kind of thing. Do you know any particular good stories about ghosts that might be at the store? I mean, if you talk to Freddie Lockhart, he says that he actually saw chairs being thrown. Nobody's there and chairs were thrown. Jeff Scott has a video where he shows him in the belly room, recording the belly room with his iPhone,

and you can see white light orbs just all over, just flying through the room. You know why they called the belly room? Why? Back in the day they used to perform illegal abortions at what is now the comedy store. Are you serious? What the day they used to perform illegal abortions at what is now the comedy store. Are you serious? What the fuck? Did you just drop a bomb on us? Or drop my goddamn hook phones on that one. Or perpetuating some lore that was told to me.

Dude, I think there were some evil shit that comedy store at some point and I feel like now something happened to it and its energy is totally different. And it's in a really good place right now. Now personally, I was in the main room, green room, which is back of the main room. And I was getting ready to go up and I was doing my set. And in the back room, there is a shower. There's a whole bathroom with shower, everything, where in case, I don't know, apparently people used to shower after their shows.

I think it was probably back when they had like a lot of dancers there, they could shower after their shows way back in the old Vaughville days there. So I'm just hanging out right and all of a sudden I hear the, the shower handle. The shower handle just start the word I'm looking for? The little handle. Yeah, the shower handle just start to turn, turn, turn, and the water started running. Run, boom. I was like, oh man, somebody's here.

And then the second time was I saw something is I was I It was in the main room and Jeffrey Ross this was early on the roast battles He's sitting with all the roast battle writers and he was they were having something and I Remember walking by me and hey guys I walked back out to the hour. I run to the ride aid near there It's a two blocks down. Took me five minutes ran back. They were all. They were all sitting. They were.. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the the the th the th the the the the th the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the main main main room. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the OR, I run to the write aid near there, it's a two blocks down, took me five minutes, ran back. They were also in their writing, right? So I go back in the room and now the lobby, when I left the first time, the lobby of the main room was completely lit. And when I came back, it was black. And I go, did somebody go in there and turn it off?

Did anyone come by? They go, no, nobody's come by. So I go into the darkness, and I'm starting to freak out. And there's one sliver of light against the wall, that there's no light source for that sliver of light. It would have to be reflected from the street light all the way down the main the main. the street light all the way down the main room hall, off something and then hit that. I don't know how that light is there. What the fuck?

And then I look at the light and I just see an image pass right in front of the light. And I go, I'm out! Yeah, no, thank you. Damn. So let's get in this first bardo. What is the first bardo guys? I think that's just the white light. That's the straight up tunnel of light that is talked about so often. I think a lot of doctors and surgeons have even described that when people die during surgery and come back, that's

the first thing they say they saw. And uh, I mean, yeah. Skippy Simon said that friend of mine, Skippy Simon died in the military and he said he went all he saw was a white light and he went to the white light and then he woke up. Yeah. Some say it might be a regressed memory from your childbirth because as you come out of the birth canal your eyes open the first thing you see is just bright light and then that's even some of like the alien abduction their guys masks on they look giant you know and they're they're o they're o they're o they're o they're o they're o' they're o' they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. the. the. the. the. the. thee. thei the. the. thei the. the. the. the. the. the like the alien abduction theories that there's like guys masks on they look giant you know and they're oper- They're doing things to you sticking up thermometer up your butt that's what these are all regressed I've heard these I mean here on tinfoil we don't believe

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and even until 32. Right, so a lot of people are wondering what was Jesus doing, and there's a lot of speculation that he traveled to Tibet, that he traveled to Egypt in these places where he got inducted into, initiated into these mystery traditions, that he was a shaman of sorts, that he was like, that McKenna of his day, teaching people that, you know, God is in you, that you are connected to the universe already and that you can do these things that will get you there. And of course the Holy Roman Empire wrote and rewrote all those Gospels a long time later. We all know that, right? That the Bible is the Bible isthings that served the masters who decided to craft it? Right. It was made by guys who believed in raw, the sun god.

Well check this out. So I just interviewed this guy, Silva was his last name, and Freddie Silva, and he has a great book called the Resurrection Ritual, which gets into the idea that because Jesus was going around getting initiated and all these things, the story has been twisted, that he died and was quote resurrected, that he's the son of God. That's where the whole story makes no sense, but where it does make sense is if you get into this resurrection ritual they were doing, they had ways to keep people on the astral plane for a long time with psychedelics and other things, and Jesus was in the the the the the tom.............. And the the the their their.. And their. And their. It. It was their. It's their. It's their. It's todea. today. thea. today. today. today. tod-a. tod-a. thea. thea. thea. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. It. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the. the. the. the. the. tthe. ttttttttttttttttoday. today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today. today. tods. And Jesus was in the tomb doing the ritual for three days. And then he came out.

So he was on the spirit playing, but he never, he wasn't dead. So this is kind of what I think that story is twisting, is that it's hiding what is really magic because the Holy Roman Empire, the Conquistadors, the witch hunts, the burning down of the Library of Alexandria, all this stuff, all of Western expansion, has been to wipe out magic. And magic is very much about interacting with the spirit playing. I know people who are practicing a cultist who talked to spirits on a daily basis. I haven't gotten there. I've been trying, I've been trying some rituals. I've thi tho tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I've thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I haven't thi. I'm thi. I'm their. I'm the the thi. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the thoen, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I'm to wa. I'm to w. I'm to w. I'm to w. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm te. I'm te. I'm try. I'm thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. toeooooooooooeoeooe. I'm trying, I've been trying some rituals. I've got an altar set up because I'm a person who wants to test it. I'm not going to say it's bullshit. I still feel silly doing it, but there will be a time apparently,

well I'll get some kind of breakthrough and I won't feel so silly about it anymore. But there's people I trust, intelligent people who would not spend their time on this if they weren't getting results. So I trust their results. But I do think the authority has been trying to keep us away from the spirit world forever. That's how you control the lives of man. If man knows that life is an illusion and that it's a cycle and that your true nature is consciousness, how do you really enslave a nation? How do you really get people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people to to to to to to to it is, if they go to the astroplane regularly through ritual, you can't really control people. So it's all about keeping people in the material world.

That's why I believe that Gnostic idea that the world is an illusion. And it's a very persistent one if you keep people here, keep people entrapped in it. World's within worlds. People sitting here in an illusion, watching TV, playing video games. Illusions within illusions. And now VR is coming out. It's nuts, man. But I really do think if you unpeal the onion,

the truth is that we are consciousness first. And then if you keep that in mind, you can have the tenacity of a guy like Gandhi, or some of these shamans sh sh sh sh sh sh sh shham in this town square because they don't like what's going on. Because they know that their true nature is consciousness and that's the number one thing they don't want us to know. So wow that was this is awesome. The final for the third Bardo is a bunch of different worlds right? It just depends like so. Tibetan Buddhism they believe that you have the chance to reincarnate into six possible different experiences or realms, as they call it.

And we're in the human realm. And the thing, this is one of the three. There's three good and three bad. We're in the human realm, and this is the only realm where you can achieve enlightenment and break the cycle of reincarnation. In this realm. Being a human, much like in Western Christianity, you have freedom of choice, you have free will. And so this is the place where you're able to accumulate karma, which makes it basically means action or deed. You can do good deeds, bad deeds, you can do dirty deeds if you're ACDC, but right here. Done, dirt, cheap. Exactly.

So this is the realm that depicts whether you get broken out of that cycle. And the other two good ones is the realm of the Asuras, which is like a titan form. They're like, I mean, they're like half gods. But the thing is, it's all metaphorical. All Eastern cultures are speaking in metaphors because this is a way to live your life.

Like when you're a dick and a douche to people, and all you're trying to do is get yours, then guess what? You're gonna come back to this realm until you figured your shit out. Yeah. And the other good...land yourself square in Syria. Yeah. And the next life. Ah.

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which is you literally be turned into an animal because you're complacent, you live like a prejudice life, you're sheltered, you're avoiding any sort of discomfort. And these are people who are ignorant and just content with being ignorant. And then you come back and you get to be a cow led to the slaughter because, I mean, this is all in the theory of Tibetan Buddhism. Yeah. And the other realm is very super interesting concept is called the realm of theory of Tibetan Buddhism. And the other realm is very super interesting concept is called the realm of the hungry ghosts. And in my mind, it's Vegas. It's their, these hungry ghosts have big bellies. They have pinholes for mouths

and tiny, tiny, thin necks. Because they have like an appetite that can never be filled. They have thirst that could never be quenched, they like breathe fire because they're never getting liquid. So it's Vegas. It's sex. It's nonstop partying. It's money, money, money, it's gluttony. But you're never filled.

There's never a time where you're in Vegas where I've had enough. It's time. It's like, I gotta get the fuck out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out. It's time it's like I got to get the fuck out of here or I think I've become like one of the donkeys from Pinocchio Yeah, and then you leave and you get Vegas AIDS you ever had Vegas AIDS where you're just like oh, I think I'm sick I'm Vegas sick, I'm Vegas sick, Aaron, you ever get Vegas to the Vegas. Can't say that I do you've never had Vegas you've never had Vegas aids you feel like a million dollars as soon as you you you, right? No, you're fu, Aaron. God damn it. Aaron. I'm very familiar with those Vegas age. You're right?

You just like, you're like, oh, I'm so sick. I was in Vegas. You got that Vegas Aids, home boy. Thoughts on the third bardo? Greg? Well, I guess the way I've heard that the the the the the the the the little different than the way they're being described, but um... Let's hear it. Well, I heard that the third one really was just that that moment where you're, that where you're in the process of choosing your next life, that your time in the spirit world is winding

down and that's when you're making that choice. And apparently you meet or you see your actual parents and then you hop on down at the moment of conception. That's what you were talking about that you go to a room, right? So yeah, you die, you get into an area, you try to get the Buddha's attention. That's you not acknowledging your Buddha's self. You get angry, you get frustrated, you're filled with fear, you're chased by monsters, quote on quote, It's all metaphor. And who are these monsters? It's all the shit that you haven't dealt with in your past life. All the accumulation of all your negativity

and all the bullshit that you've like dished out on other people, it's coming back tenfold. So you get chased into the next, you're running from them, and you come into a big, expaned the than't, to to to a to a to a th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th........... the, the the the the the the the the the a, the a, the a, the a, the a, the accumulation, the accumulation, the accumulation, the accumulation, the a the a the a the a the a the, the getting down and to escape all this anger and the fear and everything that you're afraid of dealing with, you then dive into one of the couples banging and you get reincarnated.

That's how you choose your mother or father. So basically you choose who your parents are by their hump style? Yeah, I mean if you're like, oh man, that couple's really going at it. She's a freak and jump in. I hate to break it to you Sam, but you probably bone just like your dad. Yeah, really? Or your dad bones exactly like you.

I'm not too sure which one. That's so interesting, dude. That is so trippy interesting. I mean, that's that one perspective. A lot of people say you see a light, the thiiiii, thi, that that that that's that's that's that's thi, that's thi, that's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thri's thri's thri's thripea, thrippin, thri, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, thin. Yeah, thin. Yeah, thin. Yeah, thin. Yeah, thin. Yeah, thin. Yeah, thin. that's thin. that's that's that's that's thin. that's thin. that's thin. th. thin. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that one perspective. A lot of people say you see a light in a tunnel, but no one really knows if it's good or not, because I've talked to people who think it's actually part of the trap and that it's the gray aliens who stay out in the shadows to treat the earth like a human slaughterhouse, that we are just sitting around in our little cubicles in our homes, thinking life is great, like cow, like idiot cows in a slaughterhouse who don't realize why they're really there. They're there to provide food. And so when we die, they also have a consciousness trap that throws us right back into another

body unless you can somehow manage to escape that cycle. So who knows if it's good or bad, but it's interesting. It is interesting man I got to be honest with both you guys I've done a lot of podcasting this is by far the most interesting episode I've ever done in podcast this is I'm being dead serious I've had more fun on this podcast than I think I've had on almost any podcast well that affects everybody and everybody no one knows so it's everyone's curious. So interesting dude this is so interesting so

Greg do you have any recommendations for our listeners who might want to read up on some of the stuff we've talked about? Well if you're interested in the Nostic perspective. Nostic means noses and noses means knowing so this is all about knowing the reality that you're really in the nostic perspective. Nostic means Nosis, and Nosis means knowing. So this is all about knowing the reality that you're really in, the true framework, whether it's the spirit world or the illusionary material of reality. And I learned most of what I know about nosticism from my favorite wizard, Captain the Chaos Quittage team from down under, Gordon White, he runs run run Roonsoop.com. He writes a lot of great pieces about magic and Nosticism has had a huge influence on him. There's another

guy, Miguel Connor, who runs the Aonbite podcast. It's all about Gnosticism. And he compiled a lot of his interviews in two books, voices of Nosticism and I doubt there would be anything better than those compilations. And then of course if you want to hear to hear to hear to hear to hear to hear to hear to hear to hear the to hear hear hear hear hear hear hear hear hear the the their their to hear hear hear hear hear hear their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their their. their. the the their. their. the. the. the. the.a.e.e.ea.e.e.e.ea.e.e.eas.ea.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. te. t would be anything better than those compilations. And then of course if you want to hear about the Jesus resurrection ritual stuff, Freddie Silva's book, The Resurrection Ritual, it's pretty compelling. Oh man, I got, I'm gonna have to check out all that stuff. I know you and Gordon are buddies and he's actually one of the only Australians that I enjoy so that is saying a lot. Why don't th you th you th you th you th you th you th you they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th th th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. I th. I thi thi that. th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the the th. the th. th. th. thi. thi. the. the. the the. the. the. the. the. the the the. the. the. the. the. th. the enjoy so that is saying a lot. Why don't you like Australians? They're wonderful. I mean they're just like... Women are gorgeous. Oh you play some footy. Okay you don't like soccer. You don't like soccer.

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My friend Melissa McQueen was talking, she's a big conspiracy theorist. She doesn't want me to say it, but I'm going to. I'm trying to get people be like, dude, if you believe in stuff, say it, man. Come out of the closet. Come out, man. You got to say it. I get it. She just doesn't want to get fights with people. I'll bang all day long, I'll bang. I'll to to to to to to to the the to to the to to the the to the th. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll to say I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll say to say to say to say to say to say to say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say I say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say th. I say th. I say th. I say th. I say th. I say th. I say th. I'll say th. I'll say th. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll bang. I'll say th. I'll say th. I'll say th. I'll say th. I'll say thee. I'll say the. I'll say the. I conspiracies before. And she started listening to Tim Foil Hat and through Tim Foil Hat. She started listening to your podcast. She loves your podcast. So, you know, I appreciate you come out on my show, man. It's always a pleasure talking to you. And hopefully we'll hook up sooner than later, my friend.

Thanks for coming on. Yeah, man, thanks so much to to to tho to to tho to to to to to tho, to the to tho, tho, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. to to to to to to to to too. the the the too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, the the the the the the the the thi. thi. the. too. to. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. toothe comedy world and just to be able to tip toe into it is great. Of course, I forget more than I remember, but you interview all these people, you got to let something stick down. You're doing great, dude. And you guys who love Tim Foyle Hat and love higher side chats, Greg, and I are working on a couple projects together. And hopefully we'll have one going. than later that we think you guys who really love. So Greg, thanks for tuning in, Meg. I know you got life stuff to take care of it. We appreciate you coming on on Timfoyle Hat. It's always a pleasure to talk to you.

Hell yeah, peace guys. Take care, buddy. See you guys. See you guys, thanks. Thoughts? I'm an atheist. Oh, so you don't even believe in any of that? No. You just believe we just go into, we just become worm meat? Where's your 21 grams going home, boy? That might just be all the oxygen in your body letting go. Oh, god damn.

The 21 grams of oxygen. Well, how dogs don't have the same. I mean, well, no, you said dogs don't have it. Well, dude, well, they're smaller, so they have less, so you, it's negligible. God damn. It's just the cheese and the crust. What's it like to be so cold? Open your mind, man.

I'm giving you knowledge, drink, dude. God damn, I was moved by this episode. And you're just sitting there thinking about what kind of the thahahahahahahahahahahahah thau, than, than, than, than, than, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, thi, they, they, they, they, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's like, that, that, that, that, that, that, th thinking about what kind of topings you're going to get on your fucking pizza man. Yeah. God, God, just... We'll get a Monday. We'll get a Monday. Monday's gonna be a great show we're supposed to do it this Monday, but life happens. Wea couldn't do it.

So next Monday, we are, what do we talk? We got Steve Lee, what are his band? Oh we got Steeby Weeby. The famous Steve Lee check him out on his YouTube page but his band is called Munchy. Oh go check out Munchy it is fucking amazing. It's cream of hammer. Ryan this is the most you've talked in the episode and you were excellent I can't encourage it enough. Please talk more you make my job better and it's you're knowledgeable so I appreciate all the hard work you do buddy you're the man I appreciate you being on the show. Aaron thanks for listening and not listening at the same

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