Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - Tin Foil Hat Ep 19: The Michael Jordan Conspiracy w/ Brandt Tobler

Episode Date: May 9, 2017

Thank you for tuning in for another episode of Tin Foil Hat. Today Ryan and myself welcome the author of the book Free Roll, Brandt Tobler! On this episode we discuss... 1) The Las Vegas Comedy Scene 2) Running Bets for Bookies 3) Advice from your Uncle Sam 4) The NBA investigation of Jordan 5) The Murder of Jordan's Dad 6) The book "Free Roll" by Brandt Tobler 7) Aaron actually enjoyed this episode

I get a feeling there's gonna be a riot. Yes, welcome back to the bunker. It's Tinfoil Hat, guys. Thank you for tuning in. You guys, all the feedback has been amazing. Even when you guys are talking about what you like different about, it's all constructive criticism, but for the most part, it's really great and we appreciate it. Joining me in studio is my partner in crime here, the most off-the-grid, mother-fucker, we know. Try to email him. He doesn't have one, okay? Try to twit him. Doesn't know what you're talking about. This guy's still on Frenster. That's the guy's still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It doesn't thi. the th- the th- the th-in the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toing. toing. the trying. trying. trying. trying. to to to thi. the the the the is. That's the only thing the government isn't fucking following is Frenster.

Trust me on that. If you want to get a hold of us, we're at Frenster, backslash, Timfoyle Hat Pod, check it out. My good friend, Ryan Davis, how are you Ryan? I'm doing great, Sam, how are you doing? All the time he gives me what you give me weight protein today? I got you a mill replacement fat burning Get you's multi-vitamins because I know you're gonna be fighting are you. Yeah, so you're getting ready for the big fight with Ari Shafir Hopefully Jason Ellis mania if it all works out, but that's another podcast. So you give me all this stuff. I've lost a couple pounds. I noticed a couple pounds. I know? I'm losing a couple pounds. I'm losing a couple. the the the the the the th. the the the the th. the the the th. the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. tri. tri. tou. tri. tou. tri. te. tou. te. te. to. to. the the the the the the the the the the the the trying to cut out the sugar. But yeah, man, things are going great. Guys, real quick, check out the podcast on Twitter. It's at Tinfoil Hat Pod.

Join us. Tell your friends. Also, check out the YouTube channel. It's my YouTube channel. YouTube.com, backslash, Sam Triply, P.L.I. And I'm putting up a daily rant called the Mother of All Truth Bombs, and then also the Timfoil Hat Podcast videos on there as well. And we also want people to try to put this on Reddit, right?

Yeah, we got to get down on those threads. Go deep into the hole, go deep in the hole. I really love Reddit because yesterday, Aaron, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and, and, and, and, and, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I'm, th, I'm, I'm, I'm thi, I'm thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.ea, thi.ed, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi, th hole, man. Go deep in the hole. I really love Reddit because yesterday, Aaron, you're gonna love this. The other day, somebody's posted a post to the conspiracy theory subreddit on Reddit that Al Magical was a government spy. I believe it. What was he talking about, something about Dixen mouth? That was a sure sign that you're a government spy when you keep bringing talking about Dicks and mouth and they that was a sure sign that your government's fight when you keep bringing talking about dicks and mouths No, you're not you're not into it Aaron he has way too many other jobs. Yes, so you so you in no way think

Al Magical is part of the government conspiracy of shape shifting lizard people. Yeah, okay, okay, I can already see your feisty today Aaron. I can see your fucking feisty and there's gonna be a fight on everything tod. t, tod. tod. tod. tod. tod. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. you. you. you. you. you. you're you're you're you're you're you. you. you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're you're you're you're you're you're, you're, you're you. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. t. I's. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. you. you. you. you. you. you. you already see your feisty today, Aaron. I can see your fucking feisty and there's going to be a fight on everything today. But you know what? That's what's going to happen to unplug you, you Midwestern motherfucker. We're going to go deep. Joining me in studio is a good friend of mine. We both started in the 702. I was a little bit ahead of him in terms of the comedy scene of the Las Vegas comedy scene. It was Doug Stano, but then myself, then he was part of the next generation. He's here to talk about his book coming out and today's topic. Please welcome, Brent, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having to have me guys.

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You're like, today's the day I drop kick. A fucking slightly homeless man with 40 cats in the chest. It was impressive, like right out of the book, like Miyagi taught him. So you got a book coming out, what's your book? Because you're doing a little book tour, you've a little, you've a podcasts? Yes. Not as deep and as powerful as the Timfoyle hat. Yeah, my book's called Free Roll, and it's a book about my life, and a lot of it has to do with the little over a decade

I spent in Vegas, working for a bunch of professional gamblers, running bets, and then I moved there to reconnect with my father who was in prison as a child and then he stole 80,000 from me and I'd try to kill him. Yeah that's a fun interesting story because again I've talked about us before I don't know what is the what's the word I'm looking for the term of when how long you can go before they can't charge you again with a crime. Aaron, what is that as you do words with friends over there? Statute of Limitation. What is the statute of limitation on attempted murder? I think seven years? Seven years? Are we hoping? Well I didn't kill him so I didn't really commit a crime. That's why it was called attempted. Yeah. Yeah. Seven dog years. Yeah. Um, can you give a little backstory on it real quick?

So what happened was, uh, my dad was doing good and then he got off parole and then he got back on drugs and then uh, started gangbanging with kids. Yeah, I started hanging out like little 20-year-old. Yeah, I started hanging out like 20-year-old wannabe gangster kids and then uh, he stole my little. thoo the he came in and stole my 80,000 and then seeing my little brother. Where do you hide 80,000 by the way? Where is that? I just keep it in a box under my bed? No, I was just in a box under my bed. If I did, if I had a sock full of 80,000, I would jizz on it constantly. So if like, let's say, you know, Aaron comes in, he wants to steal it, he's a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I's, th. I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I. I. I. I. I's, I. I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th the. th the. the.through the crunch to get to the fucking socks. I don't think it would have deter him, honestly. 80,000 is a lot. No, there's not, you can deter you to get to the jib, if you gotta go through the jiz?

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And this is like 2001 when they were awful, so I bet 22,000 and it was there was no looking back. It was out of their much? My first bet was for 22,000. Jesus Christ. Well, it was their money. They gave me the money. That's still crazy. Oh, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I I, I, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. I was the. the. thee. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. th made. I mean, I've carried hundreds of thousands of dollars with me at all times.

I try to keep most of it in tickets and chips, so I wouldn't get robbed, but I mean, I always had at least 50 cash on me. That's insane, dude. Yeah, it was crazy for a kid that never had more than $800 in his life. Yeah, I mean, dude, I don't don't don't don't don't thua don't thua I don't thua I don't I don't thu I don't sure that people didn't run off with their cash? Well they did people did a couple times and it was bad I mean but they're making so much money it's like there's a lot of secrets to like the bookie thing like like when you're a bookie like you don't really fuck anybody up because you're making too much money so if I'm booking like 20 people and thrown the tho. I could have someone go beat his ass, but then if I get in trouble

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and then on Sunday night they'd be down $3,600, trying to bet $3,600 to get even. And I'm like, you can't do that. You can't, you know. That's the one addiction I never had, my dad did, but I was just such a cheap fuck. Like I go to the tables because we both, I went to UNOV, did you? No, no, no, I just live there. I went to UNLV and I would bet $20 gambling. I get so pissed. Because it's 90, $20 was a little bit more than too. It's like, I was like, ah! Well, I think it's the worst addiction because it's nobody can stop you from doing it. You know what I mean? If you're addicted, you can just stop and put $100 worth of scratch tickets right now. And as a bookie, I'm never going to stop telling you, you know.

That's kind of what made me go away from it because I started to have a conscience because it was like, when my boss you'd always be like, if they know me, they're the to bet at first, eventually you're just gonna, because you're around it. Yeah, come on, let me just get a bet in. Throw five bucks from Ronda Rousin. And then it's all downhill from there, Ronda Rousy, that's what it starts. That's where it always, do you ever bet on anything, Ryan? No, one time I went to a cockfight in Pomona. You went to a cockfight, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, throw, throw, throw, throw, throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, and throw, have a weird thing because I'm against animal and I'm going to get murdered for this. I'm against animal fighting. But for some reason the cocks just hate each other. They literally just hate each other. They train them to be that way. Oh but they would normally be lovable? I just think they are just like you just can't put two in a room without them want to destroy each other. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. the. the the the the the th. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th in a room without them wanting to destroy each other. No. This episode is sponsored by Pita, by the way. Yeah, by the way.

Pita! Wait, so when you went, was it cool or? I knew this one Mexican dude and he was like, hey, come on? And I was like, all right. So it was crazy. They had the little. So yeah, they're like this guy's fried out. So it's all good. Yeah, guys on fucking acid, he's cool. I'm swore along this podcast. I'm sorry. So you have a very popular podcast too called 31. Yeah, the 31. The 31. It's 31 questions. So we wanted to do a little version of that. So we're going to go, we're going to ask you 13 questions before we get into our big conspiracy on this because I know people want to us just to do one conspiracy and we're going to try our, it's like it's a bunch of conspiracies about one person or two conspiracy.

So let's start. Describe what the Vegas comedy scene is like. Now I think it's good. It's come a long way from when we were there. And when I started there, there was one open mic on Sunday nights at like 9. I was even worse when I started, which was for you, is one open mic every other week? Yeah. One? Oh, in that huge town? Every other week? Yeah. And now you can get up every single night and I think there's a lot of good young comics there. Unfortunately, a lot of old comics move there. Just, I don't know, somehow the word got around on email that it's a good spot for old comics.

So there's a lot of old comics that are just bitter and shitty kind of taken up stage. But to me, the young comics are working hard. And clubs like L.A. Comedy Club are trying to cater to the young and up and coming instead of just putting on old people. There's a certain style about LA comedians of Vegas comics. They're edgier, they're darker. I love it. I think the scene, you know, it's like, it's like, you know, it's like, yeah, there's Joe Koi who's from the scene and he's wonderful.

He's different. But for the most part, Doug Stanoff Down, there's a grit, there's a real dirty, fun, honest kind of talk from there that always came out of Vegas. Well, yeah, you just got to go to war in those rooms. Like competing with the slap machines and stuff is like, there's no other scene where you have so much. Now you have competition in the shitty bar scene of dealing with gamblers, you also have the most incredible entertainers in the world with Circus Allay and now they bring in every big comic and to me it's the worst place to start comedy if I was, which is weird because

people think the entertainment capital of the world or whatever, but I think it's the hardest place to come out of and no industry. If industry goes there, they're just to get fucked up and not. They're just their their their their their. They're just their. They're just their. They're just, their. They're just, their. their, their, their, their, their, their, they're just, they're just, they're just, they're just, they're just, they're just, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th.. And, th. And, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr-n. thr-s. they're just they're just they're just they're just they're they're they're they're they're just going to get fucked up and not come to the shows. Anyway, like all the times they told me like, oh, so-and-so is coming. They would, they'd never even made it to the show because they were to have an enjoy in their life. What was a, what's a bigger thrill? crushing in front of a packed full house or hitting on a bet. It's much better. Just because the, well. Okay, let me ask this. What's better crushing in front of a really packed huge room in a big show, sorry about

that, or having some wild crazy sex? We'll probably, I like, I don't have a very good wild crazy sex. So crushing in a room, I'm pretty shitty. How old you? 30? You don't do that anymore. Yeah, happy to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to me me me me to get to me to get me to me to me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me to me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me to be to be to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get bo. to get boa. toa. toa. toa. toa. toa. toa. toea. toea. toe? toe? toe. toe. to a room I'm pretty shitty. How old are you? 39? Okay yeah, you're almost 40. You don't do that anymore. Yeah, happy to get bogus at this point, right? Yeah, so. But I don't know. There's something about winning money that is so fun. It's just such a crazy feeling. You got a question? Yep. First woman to break your heart.

Mine, 4'7, half Mexican, half Filipino, shaped like an eggplant, L.D. I hope all your boyfriends get cancer in your dick. But for you. My first girl was a 5-8 Mexican named named Holly Martinez who ended up cheating on me with one of my friends because she thought I was cheating on her and she's my first high school girlfriend. And your friend fucked your girlfriend? Well I think they were like broke up. They were I don't know it would be a we'd have to go in front

the judge of who I think we were probably broken up but yeah he was my friend and so but I was like a late bloomer so that was like in high school you know in like my junior and senior year and I we dated for like a year and a half and she did definitely crush me mine is Shannon Quinlan I did a awkward interview with her she was just super hot basically town bike she's so hot and she's still hot now she's still hot now she's I know her and her husband, her husband's one for a person, but like, I mean, just a legendary fucking bimbo back in the day, and I remember asking her out and she just laughed in my face. And then she's like, you're joking, right? I'm like, oh yeah, I'm totally joking.

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But one of the biggest bets we ever made was two times when we thought we had a super-edge. And one time, the one time we were wrong, so we used to pay off the caddies, because the caddies would give us their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, toe, their, and, and too, and, their, and, their, their, toge, toge, threat, their, t So one time a caddy told us that, so they were doing matchup play, where it's just one verse one, and one time a caddy told us that his guy had food poisoning and didn't know if he'd even make it through the round. And in bet golfing, if you start the round, the bet out of that and the guy went like Michael Jordan flu game and fucking shot like a 69 and we lost our ass. But the best game we story I have is when a Hollywood agent told us that his client was singing the national anthem and said it was pre-recorded. So because you can bet on the length of the national anthem. So we had to trust this guy to see if it was true and then we gave him a 15% free percent percent percent percent percent got 15% of what we won if it was right.

But I'll never forget that game because we were some of the biggest gamblers in the world, but that day we were all just sitting there with stopwatches time in the National Anthem. And then when it came out exactly what he said and we won all that money, we didn't get fuck about the game. I won probably 7, 8,000 on my own. I can't imagine what they won. Aaron! Nothing, nothing, good character. One of the biggest bets I made actually for myself was betting that a Sorensen wouldn't make the cut when the girl tried to make the cut in the golf tournament and the male golf tournament.

I think her name was Anacus Sorrensen or something and all our golf guys were like, she'll never make it. And we bet the shit out of that. So it was just, she wouldn't make it? She wouldn't make the cut. And she didn't, no, so we won. But we had to lay a lot of juice. Oh yeah. So I was, I think it was like three to one. So I was laying like 15,000 to win five. Let's say like the Con Con, the that's, the, that's, that's, the, that's, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu, th, thu, th. thu, thu, thus, thus, thus, tho, tho, that, th. thi, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th. So, th. So, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, tho, to. And, to. And, to. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. toe. tho. tho. tho. And, the. And, thinks it's going to be lopside. Let's say it's 20 to 1.

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disaster. He's like, do you really need that $20? No. So only thing that could happen is bad you're just gonna have to pay me $800 so you'd you never want to be to to to to to to be to be to be to be to to be to to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to to to to to to to their their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their $20 $20 $20 $20 $20.00 dollars. their their their their their their their their their their their tak $ $ $ $20 $20 $20.00 $20.00 dollars.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00. try. try. try. try. try. toda. toe. toe.00.00.00.00. to to to to the other side of it. Yeah, so you wouldn't well like casinos pull that bed off the board Don't just limit how much you could bet you know, but they'll screw you on the true odds So if it was 20 to 1, it would probably be like Floyd 20 and then Connor be like plus 12 back, so you'd get 12 back? Okay, it's awesome. You got a question. Yeah, because we're gonna cut this little short. Let's the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. we're going to cut this little short because we got to get into this, but what's your next question? What endangent species would you eat? What I eat?

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Do you think, today's conspiracy is, do you think Michael Jordan got banned for gambling on sports? Yes. 100%. And what makes you think that and we'll get in some evidence? What are the big, first of all, being in that gambling world for a while, I'd always hear stories about Jordan owing people money as far, but I never heard any of him actually betting on sports, but just an awful golf stories about how competitive he was and he would

he would, he lost money to people I know, and then he would try to pay him off with like autographed basketballs and shit and they'd be like we tho..... buy that the field of dreams in the mall and you owe me five thousand dollars I want my money so I've heard being in that gambling community for a long time I heard story after story of gamblers just hating him because he was just he never wanted to pay up on his he always wanted to gamble he's the tory never and he had always had the most money to the most money the most money the most money the most money the most money the most money the most money the most money the most money the most money the most money the most money the most money to the most money the most money to to the most money to the most to to to to to to to to to to to the most I the most to to to to to to to to to to to to to to he I he I to the most I the most I the most I to to to to to to to to to to to the most I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the most the most money and he I the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the the the the tod. the the today. the today. the the the the the to the the to the the to the to the the most I the one main, my main thing is, everything I remember when I used to study this was that he came back two years to the day that he left. And the Bulls owners were notoriously greedy fucks and there's no way they'd let him come back on a road game. Why would you, if you were my star player and you're coming back to my team, one of the biggest games in NBA history, interesting.

Why would you let him play in Indiana that night? I would say you can come back, but it's like he knew he had that day circled and he wanted to be a basketball player again and he came back to that day. Well, let's just set up who Michael Jordan is. You love sports. Are you just listen to punch, Ryan????. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, th. And, th. And, to, thi, to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'd thi, I'm tho, I'd tho, I'd tho, I would thuase. I would thuase. I would thui, I thui, I I thi, I thi, I I I thi, I I I I I I thi, I I I I thi, I I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi. I would say say say say say say thi. I would say say thi. I would say, I would say, I would say, I would say, I would say, thi. I would say, thi. I would say, thi. I would say, thi. I would say, thi. I would say, I would say, Ryan? Not into sports at all, just listen to punch drunk. Okay, Aaron, you love sports, right? Yeah, yeah, obviously baseball is my true touch. Okay, so we all know that Michael Jordan was notoriously the most competitive human being on the

planet. Yeah. The point he would fight his, his teammates, I mean he punched Steve Ker in the face. Yeah. How do you punch Steve Ker in the face? That guy's back in the day was just a lovable little scamp. Like a nice little white guy. You don't punch the white guy on your team? He's the nice guy. He does all the fucking bookkeeping for everybody. You don't punch him. You don't punch him. You only thing you do is bang his girlfriend. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's the the the th. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. the the the the the the the the the the the t. He's the t. He's t. He's to. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. You only thing you do is bang his girlfriend, which seems to be common in the NBA, is that people like to sleep with their other, with the other players, women. And you know, nobody's gonna, who's Steve Kerr gonna stop on the bulls, right? Nobody. Especially, Scotty hung like a horse pippin. Yeah, or Rodman.

Probably hook up with Steve Kirk because he goes both ways. So we know this guy's notorious dude. Forever he's trying to get to win a champion can't do it. Phil Jackson comes in, Scotty Pippin comes on becomes an all-around player. Finally he's got a team around him. He so they go they finally beat the Detroit Pistons. They go they take on Magic Johnson Johnson's who's back from AIDS I believe. He's back. He's he's he's he's he's he's back from he's back from he's he's back from he's he's he's he's back from he's he's he's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He'sistons. They go to Dayton, they take on Magic Johnson's, who's back from AIDS, I believe. He's back from Aides. He still has AIDS, but he's back to playing. Doesn't have Kremel Dujabar. Nobody ever talks about that with Magic Johnson's never won a championship without Krimo Jabar.

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to get his rights to use in any video game. It's a notoriously famous thing. So in 1993, he retires. In 1992, after winning his second championship, now I got this off of a really great article. It's on Bleacher Report. And this is, what I'm basically taking is all the information they found on the Internet putting in the one the podcast. A guy named Mercell Smith puts out a really great article and it's right here. You can see it. It's on

Bleacher Report. Was Michael Jordan's first retirement, a secret suspension, which is so interesting. So in 1992, after winning his second, and this is a quote from the article, in 1982 after winning his second championship, Jordan was called to testify in a criminal tower of James Slim Boyer to explain why Boyer a convicted drug dealer was in possession of a Jordan signed personal check for $57,000. Now, what Jordan first says is that this was a loan to a Coke dealer. Yeah.

Like, come on, man. Now, just remember, a lot of you, if you're young, you're watching this, there was a time where there was no internet. There was no TMZ. And there was a gentleman's agreement, like, let the players do what the players want to do, because if th, th, th, th, th, like, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, the th, th, the thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the they, they..... they. they. they. they. they. they. thi. to to to to to to too. too. too. too. too. toe. too. toe. too. too. the. the. the. the. there was no internet. There was no TMZ. Yeah. And there was a gentleman's agreement, like, let the players do what the players want to do, because if he didn't, Jordan would hate you. Like he, to this day, won't do interviews with Sports Illustrated. Because they ran a story on whether he was gambling or not. Yeah. And they embarrassed him on the cover with yeah they gave him shit about that. So he in 19, that's 992. Then in

1993, San Diego businessman Richard Aquintus, EQUINAS, this is from the same article, revealed in his book, Michael and me are gambling addiction, my cry for help. That's too long of a title by the way. You're, the title of your book is a book itself. I don't have to flip the page to get the the the the the to get the the the to get the the the the to get the the the the the the the to get the the the the the the to get the the to get the to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get the, the, to get to to to to to to to to to the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.s, th.s, the, theaugh, the, th.e, th.a, th.a, th.a, thean, th.a, thean, the, the, the a title by the way. The title of your book is a book itself. I don't want to flip the page to get the rest of the pay, right? Aaron? 100%? Thank you. Two word title.

Two word title. Free roll. Michael gambling. That's what it should just be called. This guy Michael Jordan owed him $900,000. That's that's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. I that. that's. I that. I thatS, says that Michael Jordan owed him $900,000 that it got actually up to $1.2 million. I mean, that's some crazy gambling right there. On golf. On golf! On golf!

A hundred and ten rounds. That's a lot. One point two million dollars. He also, he also, he would pound him, hound him along the thi. th, $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $, $, $, $, $, $, $, $, $, $100, $, $, $ $ $ $ $, $100, $100, $100, $, $, $, $, $, $, $, $, $, $, $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ lot. $1.2 million. He also, he also, he would pound him, hound him along the lines of what you were saying, that he wouldn't pay up. Oh, let me sign this, let me sign this. That this guy eventually just cut a deal with Jordan for $300,000 in installment payments because his wife would check his his bank receipts which is what I got going through with Dana when we do my taxes she gets my bank and PayPal and I have to explain every purchase because apparently I might

get a hooker for 950 nine dollars a cents. I don't know who this is. Yeah, where's that at? Let me know. And she has to explain every fucking purchase. Well, when I was a bookie, that was my go-to move is, I would just contact him and go, hey, if you don't pay me the money you owe me, I'm just going to let your wife's parents know that their.. good situation. Oh my God. And that always got me paid because, you know, I could punch you in the face and then you could tell a story about you were helping some old lady across the street.

But if I break your wife's mom's trust, you're screwed for life. So I see why that guy did that. Now, yeah, dude, listen man. Have you ever, I always tell young comics. If you're, if you, if you, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, they, the the, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, you, the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t. to. to. today, today, today, to. today, th. th. him kill me won't shit up. You want to get him to shut up Rip his woman. Yeah just shit on his chick. No, I don't care how crazy you are Every man fears his woman. Yeah, and you don't want to sleep on the couchers. I like to call it pussy jail. Okay? And I remember telling this one woman this I'm like this guy's heckling everybody if he doesn't shut up. If he? I this this this this this this this this this this this this this this he he he he he he. He he. He he. He's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's I he. I'm liked. He's he's he's he's he's liked. He's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's. I'm. I'm. I'm liked. I'm. I'm he's. I'm he's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I he's. I he's. I he's. He. I he's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's like. He's like. He's like. I's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. If he doesn't shut up, go after his woman. And she started going after him, he wouldn't shut up. She started pounding on his girlfriend. Shut the fuck up right there. Shut up real quick, dude. That's a little fucking lesson from your Uncle Sam and how to be a Sith lord with

some hecklers. That was free of charge. So this guy, this guy, Richard Alacquintus is interviewed or in another book by Armand Katanyan, K-E-T-Y-A-N, Armenian, thank you, writes a book called Money Players, Days and Nights Inside the New NBA. In it he states in 1993 the league had interviewed Richard again during this investigation during the investigating on joint gambling he said in the March of 1992 which is so weird that you remember the exact

time somebody said something right he says that he said that he overheard Jordan on a telephone conversation with an unknown person saying, oh the betting line is seven points. Yeah. Like that's some shady shit right there, am I right? Oh yeah, and in March of 92 North Carolina, there's a man named Eddie Dow, He was found slain in his home. And in his briefcase, they found three photocopies of checks, three checks totaling in $108,000 written by Jordan. I mean, you're dealing with coke dealers, you're dealing with guys that are getting murdered in their house,

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the world what's the weirdest gamble you ever made well my boss is at a hundred thousand dollar weight that a hundred thousand dollars to ever lost the most weight but I mean we bet on anything who you take Tom or Bert? Oh, not those two. It was their own bets, but uh, I mean, we'd gamble on anything. If we were all sitting around drinking, we would, we would gamble on if that, if we could knock that clean-ocks off out of it. I mean, 500, no fail. It just, that's just your that's your your your your your, that's your, that's your, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, we'd, that's, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd. that, we'd. th. th. th. We'd. We'd. We'd. We'd. We'd. We'd. We'd. We'd. We'd. We'd. We'd. We'd. th. We'd. th. th. th. We'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd. to. to. to. You'd bet on everything. So there's no way. Who's the most competitive dude in the world

is obviously, obvious to me. Gambling on everything to the point where he's willing to gamble on himself and gamble on, you know, I mean, is he that crazy? I mean, like, who does he listening to? I mean, he doesn't listen to anybody. He doesn't listen to anybody. He doesn't. There's nobody that he'll listen to, I don't think.

I mean, he's like, and then the other thing is like, and then the other thing is like, why would you ever, it'd be like if Bill Burr just quit for two years right now? It's like, I want to be, No one does that. That's just impossible. Especially when you're that competitive. Yeah, why would you go do something that should be? Bill Burr works hard once. I don't know if he's necessarily competitive, maybe he is, but I mean Michael Jordan's just competitive. I'm still competitive.

Look at his, look at his, the Hall of Fame speech. Yeah. He called the guy of Fame and you're just a plumber! Yeah. So I don't know how he could shut that off for two years. It's, to me, it just makes no sense. If we go like 50 years in the future and we'd tell some kids, wait a minute, so the guy was the best in the world who he's talking to what he said at seven points. Now, everything really heats up for Michael Jordan.

In, um, in the game, when he's playing the New York Knicks, I believe it's 1992, he's playing the New York Nix. And the playoffs, right? Playoff game. He's seen in Lax City which is over 200 miles, two hours away. He's seen there at 1.30 in the morning. So the earliest he could get back is if he just left was 3.30 in the morning. He ends up losing that game in New York. Yeah. That's a degenerate behavior.

You have a huge game tomorrow. And let's say that's a gambler, he's an alcoholic, he's a womanizer. Well yeah, in this day and age, if he was out now, he would be. Get murdered. I mean, he would have known cheater hooker. You know what back then, those ho They were loyal hoes. You know what I'm saying? Today, there's no, I'm watching billions last night, and that, I can't, I don't want to,

I don't want to ruin it, you know, for anybody watching, but them hoes aren't loyal. That's what I learned. But back then, there was no one to sell the story to. The National Enquirer, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, and I's, and I's, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I. And, and I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. that's, I. th. th. th. that's, I's, I'm. that's, I'm. that's, I'm. that's, I'm. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that, I'm Boy, takes over the world. If you went back and read the National Enquirer right now, I bet all that shit is actually true. Yeah, 100%. But trust me, them Homes weren't loyal back then. They just no one was given a check.

They're notie. And thanks on I'm sorry this is a very aggressive podcast today a lot of F-poms I'm sorry to listeners I try not to do make this into the night show but there's some chick who basically admits she's like a basically a hoochie hooker and she's doing an Instagram live and Clay Thompson just goes to watch she screen captures it and puts it out this you can't let down your guard for one second. Ladies, trust me on this one.

If you look at the Tiger Woods stuff, the only chick who ever went on to do anything else with her life was the one who wouldn't talk. She's the only one. You go on. If you can keep a secret, guys will keep you around. If you snitch, you're gone. Well, there is high-hink hi hi hi hi in Vegas, but you gotta pay that they say like Barclay and Jordan those guys have, but they're paying like a ridiculous amount of money. You have to get the money, you have to pay for the sex to be more than what TMZ is gonna offer.

My buddy found out his girlfriendands of dollar a night escort. And I was like, what does that feel like being with like, is it like driving a Tesla compared to driving? You know, a 1985 Ford Mustang? He's like, no, it feels the same. I'm like, so you're basically keeping the secret. Then some of these girls don't even respect the secret. And the, go, go, I'll tell everybody. I should th th th th th th, like, like, like, th, like, th, like, like, th, th, like, th, like, like, th, like, like, like, th, like, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th at the go, tell everybody, I should get my money back. There should be a refund. I agree, but if there's any ethics in the hooker game, but there just isn't any. I always wanted to start something called, I always wanted to do a crime, crime, justice, street,

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right they investigated in March 1993, he retires. Two days later, two days later, after his retirement, the NBA announced that it's investigating the Jordan has come up and they found nothing concrete. Like he cut a plea, yeah. He cut a plea. Now, a lot of people want to say, Oh, there's no smoking gun. There's not, how do you know if he really did it or not? And I, this to me, and I got off this, there's a really great website

if you're into the NBA sports conspiracies, there's a great YouTube page. It's from this guy named Mike. How would you pronounce his name? Try it. You're you you you you you you you th you're thua you're thia thua thia thia thia thia th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho tho- tho- tho- thi. thi. tho- like tho- like tho- like tho- tho- thoomom? thoom? thoom? thoom. tho-a. tho-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s. tho'-s. thooooooooooooo'-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-s. tha-s. tha named Mike. How would you pronounce his name? Try it. You're much better than me. You're Armenian though. It was like Z and K. No, it's like K-O-R-Z-E-M-B-A. Okay? Put a link to it at the bottom of show notes. I'll put it somewhere. Yeah, check out his website. And he did a whole story on this. It's a much condenser version. But here is the thing I want you to hear. This is what I believe is our smoking gun. Hold on. Okay, here it is. This is Michael Jordan. Listen to his words very specifically. And this is him at his retirement speech. Five years down the line, if that urge comes back, if the Bulls have me, if David Stern lets me back in the league, I may come back.

If David Stern lets me back into the league. Yeah. Yeah. I think that was a slip. Aaron, thoughts? I mean, it could be, but it's also, you know, when you retire, it is an official declaration, you're done. So you do need permission to come back. So you think in Michael Jordan's mind, the greatest basketball to ever play, the basketball player to ever play the game, he's hoping maybe tiny David Stern might let him come back and play if it all kind of works out. I mean I'm not saying that that's the right way it should go, but David Stern is notoriously a dickhead too. So.

Oh yeah, he ruined the Minnesota Timberwolves. Yeah. Well, the thing is, at that point in Michael's life, he hasn't asked for permission to do anything in five years. He's the biggest celebrity in the world probably. It's not like he, I can't imagine him, I think that was, there's something about that like, Hey Dave, it's Mike just, hey, do you all think it's cool if I, come back and play? Once again, I'd be like a Bill Burr stop going to the store

and being like, well, you know, in a couple years, maybe I'll ask Adam, can I come back and play? No! When he knows, he'd never asked anybody to do anything. He's fucking Bill Burt. At the time to put in perspective, 70% of all NBA fans were Bulls fans, which is Jordan fans. His brand was worth $10 billion dollars. 10 billion dollars, Aaron? You think if you're a $10 billion dollar, 800 pound gorilla? Then why would Stern suspend him, no matter what he was up to? That's your cash that's? That? You? You? You? You? You? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? That's th? That's th? That's th? I? I? I? I? I? I? th. That's a th. That's a th. That's a thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? to thi? to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi. thi. thate? the? the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to to to to to to to to suspend him no matter what he was up to? That's the part I don't know why you because because David Stern had to draw a line in the sand because you can't have your number one guy gambling on your game it's like it's like the number one sin in pro sports. I agree but I also think that's 10 billion dollars you're not getting a year. It's not like but that's why you do it. You go hey Michael this is we have to do this because we have to save you from yourself. If this comes out and we let

you play we will never, ever, ever, ever have any credibility. If we let you keep playing and you might gamble. Now you got a two years away, hit him where it hurts. He's at the height of his career, and you kind of save yourself because he goes away, people stop talking about it. I would love to, if this really did happen. I would love to if this really did happen I'd love to be in that meeting when they were like all right you got to go away but what are we going to say how I mean it's they came up with a great fucking plan that I loved baseball when I was a kid. Well you know I just don't a big effect on him was obviously the murdering of his father, right? Yeah.

And now there's a whole theory that maybe that was part of a gambling playoff. See that could be, I mean, what we've established already, that he's just an asshole when he owes people money. Like I said, as a bookie, at some point you don want to, but now we're talking way more money. When you owe that much money, people are eventually going to be like, how do I get this? You can't kill Michael Jordan. Because he has all the money. And maybe it was like one of those things where you're going to try to kidnap his

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because from the year, let me see, I think it's 1988 to 2003, they're being investigated, for mishandling almost 200 cases, And they were kind of, it's believed that they were falsifying evidence. Wow. Because the truth of matter is that Michael Jones' dad was found a week later, was not found in his car. Yeah. And that they actually didn't find any blood in the car. Well, see, that it goes back to my thought that maybe they try to kidnap him and use him for ransom and then just got frustrated by

Michael. The only one thing that I hate about this thing is like it's just such a high-profile case that everyone to never slip up about it. You know what I mean? Like this is like the best gossip in the world. Yeah, but like with the killers, why wouldn't they at some point? Well, because here's, and I'm having this argument right now with a friend of mine about Pettlegate, about the pedophile ring in, you know, Washington, D.C. It's like, well, why wouldn't anyone come for? Well, first of all, there's jail. And on top of that, they're they they they they they they they and on top of that they know everybody's relatives like it's not just you that is in danger it's people around I mean let's just look at the premise that we're talking about Michael Jordan's dad the greatest

basketball player of all time might have been killed because he didn't pay off a debt now let's just say this is in some crazy way is real right yeah they're killing Michael Jordan's dad they're gonna do to do to your to to to to to to your to your to your to your to your to to your to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. the. the thooooooooo. the they. their their their they. their their their their their their their their the th Now let's just say this is in some crazy way is real, right? Yeah. They're killing Michael Jordan's dad? What are they going to do to your dad? Or Aaron's dad? Yeah.

Or whoever your family is. We don't even know Ryan so far off the grid. We don't even know if he's human. That's 1993, all they had was pagers that you turned upside down you could read boobies. Yeah. Technology has made it easier for us to get busted with TMZ, blah, blah, blah, blah, the internet. But back then, shit can go right under the radar and you can just mishandle some genetic testing and... Okay, now, and they, Daniel Green, who is one of the killer, he goes by Lord. You know you've been in prison too long when your first name is Lord.

You know, you've just kind of cuckoo crazy. He made a statement recently through his lawyer. He says, I did not kill Mr. Jordan. No, sir. I did not kill him. That's cut and dry. It's not like I was even there when he was killed. I feel like both of us are pawns in the game. Of course I'm upset. Now he will not lie, he's not saying that he didn't transport the body. He did transport the body. He's not saying that. He drove it and dropped it in the swamp. He's saying he didn't kill them. They just got blamed for it. Yeah. I mean that could easily happen.

First of all they might not even tell him it's Michael Jordan's dad. And that lifestyle, if I was like, hey man, I'll give you a thousand to drop this body off. Dude's would it cost for you to drop a body? Oh, right now? Yeah. I would have to be so much money. How much? Like what number are we talking just for future references? a lot of if it was someone I knew, you know, if I was helping. If it's just a random, I don't know. I wouldn't want that on my... I mean, I would simply say I'm not doing it, but

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Like, I can't imagine how much money it cost him because he wasn't making off a baseball. I can't, maybe, he's probably making 10% once he was making in the NBA. Not like contract wise. But just everything overall, yeah, and just that lifestyle. If you go from yachts and private jets and now you're going to go ride a bus for two years? Because th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th their th their their their their their their their their their th. their their their th. th. their th. thus their thus that, thi that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, th. I I I I I's, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. I'm the. I's for two years? Because this is your dream that you suck at and lose a ton of money. Like, why would anyone do that? You, your dream was to be a basketball player. I didn't, I didn't dream of being a comedian and now I'm going to stop and be a magician.

Let's not forget, this is the same guy that went and played. the same guy that went played, the Bulls were like, we're good. Yeah, we got to move on from this. Yeah, we got a rebuild. He couldn't get away from the game, but somehow in the middle of the And I thank God for it, sorry. I thank God for it because I got to see Michael Jordan play. Yeah, and it was the only time as a wizard. And this asshole refere someone on the court let the guy play!

Referees are the worst. The only bigger injustice than that is that he didn't win an Oscar for Space Jam. I agree with that. They're trying to bring it back with Blake Griffin and LeBron James. Blake Griffin and LeBron James. See I think there's some players that are too big for the sport that are bigger than the sport. Like LeBron James, I guarantee you, LeBron, I, in my opinion, I have no proof other than my eyeball test that LeBron James does HGH. Well, yeah. He plays more minutes than everyone in the history of the game,

and he's never got hurt one time ever. And he just goes to Miami a lot, which is the same place place where where where where where those guys are. The season, he's like, oh dude, I'm gonna go to Miami and work out with Duane Wade. They're like, what? Yeah. That's it's... H-D-H in it. And he's just built like a break-shed house. He's losing his hair, which everybody loses the hair. But that's a classic hi-h. That guy lost the same place he lost hair and he got so jacked and buddy

I think LeBron James just superhuman and there's a little bit of superhumanness with him That they hasn't gotten hurt like he hasn't fallen on an ankle and all that stuff, but I think even if they busted him Do an HH they would never tell anybody. He's too important to the league. I think they're all doing it too. I, 100% and you know what, I'm fine with it. Yeah, well it's like everything else, like they all smoke weed, they all, they do all kinds. If they ever came out, how many guys smoke weed before they play, it would be absurd. I would do HGH if I knew it would give me a $5 million comedy tour. your head's gonna look like a cinderblock. I'm fine with that. Doesn't Rogan admit to these does HCH? No, it's like more of pulling your blood out, spinning it, doing some like blade shit, putting it back in. That's why he does? Yeah he does like this. He goes to Vegas. He used to go to Germany to get it to the to get it.

Whenever you have inflammation. Rogan. It's what Kobe did. Yeah, you pull out your blood blood blood spinning It's gonna they get all the good stuff the plasmus from it and they inject it where you have inflammation Why is Rogan doing that just because he can't he's gonna live forever man He's gonna he's gonna learn how to fly. Hi I'm gonna I'm gonna nobody like that's gonna tell us tell no nobody like that song? tell us tell us the no nobody nobody nobody all that stuff. I hope you had a good time. It's been great. I like to mix this up. We could do lizard people every week if you guys want, but I like to mix it up. Thoughts Aaron?

I like it. This is fun and different. Okay. I wish we had some backwards talking that I could laugh about. Oh, okay. that's want to believe in that? That's fine. Keeps keep buying your fake Paul McCartney music Where's your book? How can we? The book is called Free Roll and you can get it Amazon Audible Barnes & Noble anywhere pretty much. Yeah, the hardest thing I've ever done to? Do this there any clips of it that we can listen? No, not yet. It's getting edited? It's? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. to believe? to believe? to to believe? to to to be? to be to be to believe. th. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be. to be. that? that? that. to be. the the the the the the the the the the the their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their there any clips of it that we can listen to? No, not, yeah. It's getting edited right now, but it's, so it'll be, it's great. I think that'll be the best part, which was a weird thing because I, so I was supposed

to... Because you're ill, yeah, we'll give you like a good price. And then the last minute I went with like a real radio producer, and I'm glad because there was a couple moments in the book where I tear up. And I was like, oh, these rappers would have been fucking clowning me in the middle of my book. Oh, look at the white boy cry, little white boy. Oh, his dad left. Who care. there's Audubble, the Kendall version, paperback, and you can go to Brant's Bookstore.com and that's where if you want to autograph hard copy or paperback. And so anywhere they sell books you can get it and it's it's I think it's a

great book I worked my ass off on it and I for instance I sent it to like 10 rich white women that live in New York older women as a testtest and they even loved it, which is far from my demograph. Oh yeah, rich, I think it's for everybody. White women over 40 just like, they, they have the cultural taste of Phoenix, Arizona. That's all I got to say about that. I thought they would shit on it, but they enjoyed it. So I think, I think it's a, it's a great book. So I hope you guys, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, th, th, tho, over, over, over, over, over, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. White, th. White, th. White, th. White, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, could, well I know he, I have another one that he, he fucked Byron Scott's wife,

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We gotta go St. Louis. Well, he's an angel now. This isn't. Ozzy Smith? Come on, the wizard? Want to run a double play on your wife? Damn it. John Toot.

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