Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - Tin Foil Hat Ep 24: CIA Cocaine Dealing With Freeway Ricky Ross

Episode Date: June 20, 2017

Welcome to another episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. This episode, Sam and Ryan, welcome legendary crack dealer Freeway Ricky Ross. This episode we discuss.... 1) His new book "Freeway Rick Ross: The Untold Autobiography" 2) Crack Cocaine and the CIA 3)Oscar Danilo Blandon 4)Gary Webb and the Dark Alliance 5)Gangsta Rap 6)The Heroine Epidemic 7)FX's "Snowfall" and the Rapper Rick Ross For more on Ricky Ross check out his website http://www.freewayrickyross.com

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I'm here with Aaron and my good friend, Ryan Davis. We're going to get right into the show real quick guys. I will be at the Syracuse Funny Bone. Next, all next weekend. That is the... At the end of the month, I believe it's the 25th through this, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, th, the At the end of the month. I believe it's the 25th through this July 2nd and Guys we're gonna get in some more information towards the end. We just want to get in with our guests real quick

joining us live on Tim Foil hat. He is now on his book tour for Freeway Ricky Ross the untold biography his website. the website is freeway Ricky Ross, the untold biography. His website is Freeway Ricky Ross.com. Please welcome to the show, Freeway Ricky Ross. How are you, my friend? I'm good, how are you? Thank you so much for tuning in. We greatly appreciate, what were you just getting into before the show? I was out in Columbus, Ohio, with a bunch of kids, probably about 50 kids at football practice and I was speaking to him about gangs and drugs and so forth.

All right, excellent. Thanks for coming on the show. You are on a book tour right now. You are promoting your book, the untold biography, Ricky Ross, the untold biography. Tell us a little bit about your book. Well, my book basically tells how any normal person, somebody who absolutely don't have their mind on drugs, can become a drug kingpin. Oh, interesting. So this is a how-to, in a weird way, a how to become a drug pen, drug kingpin? Or how not to? I respect that. I respect that. You know, you know, when you got good information, you can make logical decisions. When you don't have information, then you're basically guessing about what you're doing.

Where are your next couple stops on your tour? I'll be going to Cincinnati, Ohio tomorrow. What day? That is the... This will be out today, so that is what's tomorrow? The 20th you'll be in Cincinnati, Ohio. Yes, and then I'll be going to Detroit, Michigan, in Flint, Michigan. And then after that, I'm not sure where I'll be going. But I'm going over the whole country. I'll be doing the whole country over the next few months.

And where most of your stops at? Where are you promoting your book at? Where are they at? Book stores? No, mostly I go to barber shops, restaurants, nightclubs, libraries, pretty much anywhere that they allow me to come and sell my book.

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somebody started to call us the freeway boys. And when I got into the drug business, that name started to take on a whole new meaning and identity. Excellent. So so basically basically you I've heard a couple interviews you've done, you've talked about how at some point you realize you couldn't go pro and basketball or football and you wanted to make some what I like to call fuck you money, you know some big cash. So you decided to get into the crack game. Can you let our listeners know how you decide to get into the drug game? Well, it was pretty much by accident.

You know, one day I was sitting on my porch, kind of down on my luck, wasn't going to be able to go to college because I couldn't read the right. And a friend of mine called me and said that he had something for me. I went to his house and for the first time tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod tod to to to to tod. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to told. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to told. to to told. to told. told. to to to to to to told. to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the drug. the the the drug. the the the drug. the the the the the toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to I went to his house and for the first time I ever saw cocaine he laid out a couple lines of white powder. So let me ask you some. Now this friend isn't any just any friend. Was it actually a teacher that turned you into turned you on to the game? No, my teacher actually introduced me to my to my major suppliers. This guy was a football player at a college. So you start with cocaine first,

selling the Coke first? Absolutely, yes. And then how did it go from, you start with 125 bucks, which is in my opinion the American Dream, starting with $100, and then you grow it from that. So how did it go from Coke to Crack? Well, when I first started, most of the people was already turning into Crack. They didn't call it Crack. They called it, they called it, uhthey called it rock cocaine, free basing. Yes.

Along the way, we found out that most people couldn't cook it and we just started cooking it for them and we called it ready rock. Ready rock. I love that. Now, how do you go from small time drug dealer to epically huge drug dealer? Where is that jump come from? Well, a couple things have to take place. First of all, you have to save your money very diligently, which I did.

Then you have to have a schoolteacher that's plugged with somebody that's connected to the CIA. Okay, that is good. And that is Oscar Blandon, is that correct? Is that the guy that ends up being a supplier? Oscar? Oscar, Danielleau, yes, correct. So he's the guy that takes you from kind of a small-time crack dealer to this guy who's like moving a ton. How do you meet Oscar? You meet him through the teacher and what is that meeting like? Well the teacher didn't introduce me

directly to to Danillo. He introduced me to one of Danillo's you know one of his underlings and the underling eventually led me to Danillo. To D'Nellow. Now, what was the meeting like, what was the meeting like D'Nello? What was that like? Well, basically what they told me is that I would have a unlimited supply. His underlings, they wasn't his business minded as he was. A lot of times I would call him with money and they wouldn't want to do business.

They would say, wait until tomorrow. And I don't know if you know about the drug business, but in the drug business, there is no tomorrow. It's right now. You know, I want my drugs right now, today, this second, this minute, get it over here. Yeah. And his underlings, they didn't look at business like that. So when I met Danillo and he told me that it would be an unlimited supply anytime and all the time, I knew that that was going to increase business. So you go from $125 to like moving $2 million a day? A day?

Three million sometimes. Three million sometimes. And tell me about how that business operates. How do you operate a business? It's off the books, it's not regulated. How do you go to moving a two to three million dollars worth of drugs a day? Well, what you do is you build up a network of people who are like yourself who need money, who's down on their luck, who can't get a job, more than likely they can't read, come from a single family background, and their family need money. You find you about 30 or 40 of those guys, and you're in business. family background and their family need money.

You find you about 30 or 40 of those guys and you're in business. But everybody you're adding at some point you got you got to be worried that maybe they're going to turn on you. How do you pick these guys? How do you trust these guys? And how do you basically control such a giant business? Well people don't turn on people that's taking care of. You know, they don't turn on people that's looking out for them. I mean, every now and then you might

get somebody that's that's scurvy and crummy and they don't care how much you do for them, they'll still try to take advantage of you, but most people will not turn on somebody that's taken care of. What were the do you have run-ins with the police during this? Do you take care of the police? Do you bribe the police? Are you staying under undercover so nobody can basically they don't see this happening? They got to be known something's going on. Well, I think in the beginning the police didn't believe that it was that much money in South Central LA to buy cocaine. And cocaine wasn't the drug that they were looking for at that time.

They were more focused on marijuana and PCP. Now is the coke coming straight in through San Francisco, through LA? I mean there was rumors that was coming in through Arkansas, Florida. I know Arkansas was really big because the Clint was governor there and that guy's a gangster and he was flying a lot of it, the cocaine cowboys and all that stuff out of Arkansas. Where was Plandone? Is that Blan's drugs coming out of? Well the first time we know we know it was coming out of San Francisco with the frog men. I don't know if you remember that arrest, the guys who were arrested, taking them off of ships

and frogmen. Uh, outfits. Yeah, scuba diving equipment. Um, then they were bringing it in on military planes, uh, carrying supplies to Nicaragua and then sending drugs back in the same planes. So, so it was coming out of San Francisco? Wasn't the big crack? I always thought the crack epidemic and the cocaine was coming through Arkansas.

Is there any? Did you get any of that drugs or was your stuff all through San Francisco? I don't know. You know, I didn't really ask them where it was coming from. I just wanted them to keep bringing it. What was the life, okay, I'm gonna get into this information, but why, because I used to do a lot of coke and I smoked some crack. I smoked crack just a couple time, actually just one time, the whole time I smoke a crack, I'm smoking a crack, I'm smoke a crack. What was it like to be the head of this drug empire like what was the lifestyle like it must have been insane it was wonderful.

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Everybody wanted to be in the cocaine scene, all the entertainer. The athletes, everybody was involved. Nobody, nobody was, either you was using or selling. And were you going to some awesome Hollywood parties? Was it like crazy? Were you invited to all the big parties? I mean, is there a separation in terms of Hollywood? I know, you know, it was all Compton and Inglewood and all that?

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you hide this money? It can't fit under the pillows anymore, it can't fit under the bed. How are you cleaning this money? I'm buying houses, apartments and businesses. And the government isn't noticing any of this? Or because the CIA is involved? Nobody's, the th, th, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi, what thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi th th thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. thi. thi thi. thi. thi of this or because the CIA is involved nobody's, nobody's flagging you? Well, I think at that time, the government didn't want anybody to flag anybody. They wanted it to run smoothly. The Reagan administration needed the money, and nobody was going to stop it. At what point do you realize that you are getting supplied by the CIA?

I didn't know that until I was sitting in prison, facing a life sentence, going to trial. And Gary Webb started giving my lawyer questions to ask mine for me. Now let me ask you something man, your face with life, what is that feeling like right there? At that moment when you're like, I may never be free again. What is that feeling like? A sad day. Sad day. How do you cope with that? I mean, I wouldn't be able to cope with that. I mean, like, what are you, what's, what are you doing doing to do doing doing doing doing to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to to to to to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to 't be able to cope with that. I mean, like, what are you, what's, what are you doing to calm yourself down and the, and to deal with that realization? Well, you never really accepted totally. I never told you accepted it. I mean, I had days, that I would say you're never getting out of here. These people are never going to let they to never let you out. I that you that you that you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you to. I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, like, like, like, like, like, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I th. I the. I the. I the. the. the. th the the the the the to to to to the. What to to to to to here. These people are never going to try

let, they try not to never let you out. But I would never stop thinking about being free. Now did anyone come to see you when you were in this situation, these people you had partied with? Did anyone come and show you any support? Was anyone there for you when you were kind of in this this bad spot? Absolutely not. My mom and one of my brothers? That's th you. That's th you. That's th you. That's th. That's th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th were kind of in this bad spot? Absolutely not. My mom and one of my brothers. That's it. Fock man, my friend was just in jail and I went to go see him. He's like, nobody came to see this guy. So let's talk about Gary Webb and the dark alliance.

How do you meet Gary Webb? One day I called my lawyer, uh, from the phone booth that they have in the other day charging you 50 cent a minute to call home on and he starts to talk to me about this reporter who wants to talk to me. My lawyer was a skeptical about talking to him and I had to explain to my lawyer that I was already looking at a life sentence and I was never getting out of prison anyway. So why should I be afraid to talk to anybody? the the the the the the the they? they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they are to be to be to be to be try try try try try try to try to to try to to to to explain to my lawyer that I was already looking at a life sentence and I was never getting out of prison anyway. So why should I be afraid to talk to anybody? Okay real quick I jumped something really quick. Let's talk about the bus that put you into this place. Now I listen to a couple interviews you had. This is a complete another setup which is

you know which is pretty much entrapment in my opinion. Can you talk about that day in which you got arrested and you were set up for life basically at this point? Absolutely, I could talk about it. Thank you, my friend. And I was the thing the government ever did to me. And they do it a lot. Yeah, to a lot of people. I read a lot of really interesting cases.

One day I planned on making some movies about some of the cases I read while I was in prison. They didn't trap people. Well, I just got out of prison. I wasn't doing anything. I was just working and trying to adjust to being a normal person. The day that I got home, Danillo Blon called me and told me that he had some drugs for me and he needed my help with him. What I told him no, but for six months straight he called me just about every other day telling me that he had 700 kilos of cocaine, and he needed my help. That went on for six months. Six months he's calling you all the time you're like no I don't want to do this anymore. I'm out and then he's like what more let's do this. There's a lot of money

in it. Yep, asking me. Well, why are you asking people to help you? Because I bought this theater before I went to prison and uh I paid a a a $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $9 $9 $1.5. tho tho tho the the tho tho tho tho tho the the that that that that that that that that that's that that that's you? Because I bought this theater before I went to prison. And I paid a million two for the theater. I put $950,000 down on it. I still owed $300,000. And I was about to lose the theater. I needed $300,000 bad. So he was telling me why I was going around asking people to help me when I can make all the money myself. Jesus Christ. And he's just setting you up.

So what happens, what makes you finally give in? You're like, fuck it, let's do this. Well, one day I'm riding down the street and I got one of my little homies with me. Uh, and he over hears me and Danillo's conversation and he tells me to let him do it. That he can do the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do tooes tooes tells me to let him do it. That he can do the whole transaction that I don't have to do anything and he can make it happen. So I said the meeting up between him and Danillo.

He brings the Nilo, I think was $300,000, and when he handed in the bag of money, the police come from everywhere. And you were at that meeting? Yeah, he wouldn't do the meeting without me. Oh yeah, so he's setting you up. I wasn't gonna be at the meeting, but Danello said the first meeting that he wanted me to be there to make sure that everything went smooth. What kind of guy is, I mean at this point, like you don't know Danelloello is the first the first hello hello he he he he he he he he he he he he he's he he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's a he's he's a to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be he. He's he. He's he. He's to be to be he. He's a to be to be to be the the the the the the to the to the to to to to to to to to to to to be to to be to be to be to be to be to be sure that everything was smooth. What kind of guy is, I mean at this point, like, you don't know Danello's a double agent,

you don't know he's an asset. What kind of guy was he? Well, you know, at one time I thought he was somebody that was a friend of mine, you know, somebody that could be trusted. But as you know, he was none of that. He probably was a racist. You know, one of the tapes Gary Webb talked about,

where he used the N-word numerous times, the judge wouldn't let us get the tape. So I believe he was just the kind of person that just used you and made you believe that he was a friend only to accomplish his goals. Yeah, I mean, was he a good guy? I mean, was he like, what kind of person was he? Was he a party with a guy? I mean, I mean, oh, we did some good business, you know, uh, and not just drugs, you know, we did cars and guns and, you know, a few other things and all our deals always went the way they was supposed to go.

But when he got busted, you know, that changed everything. You know, he felt that his life was more important than my life, I guess. What kind of guy was Gary Webb? I mean, the guy pretty much lost his life to fucking tell your story, man. You know? I mean, that's a crazy-ass thing, right? And are we losing him? There we go. Is this his connection or my connection? Holding on, hold on. He's in a rainstorm right now. Is he?

There, no, we lost them. Have we lost them? Should we try him back? Okay. This is crazy, right? Can't believe it, man. How do you trust anyone after that? You know? It seems like you know trust anyone after that? You know? It seems like you know the government will just do anything. I mean, like the CIA is the biggest gangsters out there. Should I try him back? Oh, is he there?

He's still there. It's just not really slow right now? Are you able to hear us? Let me try him again. Let me try him back. Okay, let me try this real quick. This entire interview went down because our fans of the show. Yeah, you guys basically made this happen. How's my interviewing skills? I'm digging it man. Watch out Charlie Rose. Watch out Charlie Rose. So you guys got this on because, you know, he required... Let's do a little bit of a business why we're trying to get him back if we can. So all the Reddit followers. There we are you back. We lost you for a second. I hear you. I hear you too. So long as you can hear me that's all really matters. What can you hear? Can you hear us? Can you hear us? this how really matters. Can you hear?

Can you hear us? This is how you know we do the podcast. Yes. I hear you now. Okay, perfect. Yeah, we are there. We can hear you. We can hear you.

We're happy with hearing you. If we can't see you, we still take your beautiful voice. Gary what kind of guy is he? Well, Gary was a courageous guy. I think he was one of those guys who felt that everybody should get their fair shot. And he didn't feel that the government had played fair with me. He didn't like the fact that the government came down in the chain. He thought that they should be going up in the chain. He didn't like that Danillo Blandell only got 28 months in prison and young black men, excuse me, we're getting 20 years for two ounces of crack cocaine.

Now that was unfair and unjust. Yeah, that's basically from the Clinton crime bill of 1994 which made basically like a rock of crack worth like a helicopter full of cocaine. Well, actually Ronald Reagan did that. Okay. Now Clinton went in and got tougher. Ronald Reagan begins the war on drugs, which is just a ridiculous thing. Your Ronald Reagan begins the war on drugs which is just a ridiculous thing. Your thoughts on the war on drugs? I think the war on drugs is just like the war on terrorism. It's all government sponsor. We're getting to a little bit more of that. But your thoughts on the war on

drugs? Well total failure has run thousands and thousands of lives, and some people are innocent too, you know, because what they don't understand is when they take a father away from their kids for 20 years, you know, when I got home, all my kids were grown, and all of them had grown up without their father. So when you take people out of their kids' life for 20 years, it don't just hurt the kids and the community as well, too, too, th, th, th, the the th, the their their the community as well, the community as well, the community as well, the community as well, the community as well, their the community as well of their kids life for 20 years, it don't just hurt the father, it also hurts the kids and the community as well. Because now you don't have a father figure in the community and that lets the community run rapid. Now do you think that's done systematically, meaning on purpose in that they are trying to pull father figures out of the black

community in order to destabilize the family? I think you're absolutely correct. As you know, this government has always been tough on the black man, more so than the black woman. And I don't think that it's changed. You can see all of the innocent black men who've gotten killed recently. Yep. Who just because they're black or presumed violent. Some people what do they call us? The super predator? Yes. And I would like to know what, what, what makes you a super predator?

You know, is it just because you're black or because you've done something that's super predator? Yeah, I mean like, I got arrested even though I have absolutely no violent. Huh? Yeah, I mean like, if you just look at like the amount of black males in jail for drugs, it's unbelievable. And here's my old theory, like the war on drugs is let's get, let's stop you doing drugs because drugs are bad for you right. So we're gonna, we find you with drugs, we'll throw you in jail. But here's a problem. I can always stop being a drug addict, and I've done that in my life. I had a problem with Coke, Crystal Meth, and I've done crack cocaine before.

Okay? I stopped doing drug act, but I don't do drugs anymore. I can never not be a felon anymore. After that, I am always a felon, and thus crippling my ability to get a job again, to vote, to carry a gun, to do all these other things in which I feel has been done on purpose. You're absolutely correct. And once you do that, you put us in another box because there's so many jobs that now we no longer qualify for, and the easiest thing for the person to do is go back to selling drugs, which in the verbally, in the verbally things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things, is, is, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, things, things, things, things, things, things, things, things, things, things, things, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and the easiest thing for the person to do is go back to selling

drugs which in the verbally is going to end him back up in prison. Right, 100% so now you're, now you're, now you don't really have a lot of options. Very poor paying jobs, very, very low income jobs. And it's just like everybody wants to be able to take care of their family. Now if we see with these rich people they get bused with drugs all the time, they get sent to rehabs, they get sent to that. I mean now what we're seeing with privatized prisons is that they're basically creating slave labor that these guys are now because of free you know they did free thr-try tho' th th. th th th. th th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. their the. their their their the. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their their their. thii. theateateateateateateateateateateateateate. teate. truee. trueeateate. te. teate. thae. thaeate. theateate. the is the is the, those countries are either asking for more money to work or they're destabilized. The best way to get workers to work for free is to make them go to jail and be locked up for five, ten years and then they get the work for ten

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no blacks in prison. Yeah. Not one black person was in prison before slavery ended. Yeah. That's so true. Yeah. So what they did is found another way to enslave us and now they're using it by taking over our minds, making us believe that that crime is cool and that selling drugs is cool. If you listen to the radio, you know, some of the guys who they praise are singing songs about selling cocaine. Yeah, let's get into that.

So, you believe that crack was designed to stigmatize the black community? Is that crack was designed to stigmatize the black community is that your belief? I wouldn't say that but that's what happened. In the sense that it in what in it was glorified through hip hop and gangster rap do you think that was done on purpose gangster rap was meant to turn make a young youth believe that being a gang purpose. Gangsarapp was meant to turn make young youth believe that being a gangbanger is cool. Well, yeah, I believe so I believe that they took an industry that was basically talking about fight the power, to stop the killing and flipped it to kill more, fight more and sell drugs.

Yeah, so we go from public enemy and I mean, even though back in the day, you had even kid and play, which is pretty positive. The Fresh Prince, you know, he's doing a lot of positive public acts, public enemy doing all their, you know, fight the power stuff. LL Cool Jay, talking about all the lovely, the ladies love, Cool Jay. Two updates. K.R.S. 1. Yep. We go to that to, uh, to who else? We got like, you know, all this gangster rap that just becomes really big, the promotion of gang-banging on all of the mainstream media, to it being cool. I mean, even in the NBA there, the

Institute a new rule where you had to dress up in a suit because it got so gangster at the press conferences and you're you believe that system act which I believe as well. I do I do I absolutely do believe that. And you also see a I mean when you got guys who actually went to college who was straight-A students who turn around and tell the kids that they're dumb that they're stupid that they didn't graduate that they dropped out of school. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I to. I toes tot tote. tot today. tote. tode. tode. tode. tode. tode. tode. tode. thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes th. th. toled toled toled toled toled toy. toy. total total total total total to. tot to. tot tot tote. tota. tota. tota. tota. tota. tote. tote tote tote tote tota. tota. tota. tota. tota. tell the kids that they're dumb, that they're stupid, that they didn't graduate, that they dropped out of school. I mean total lies in order to make the kids dumb themselves down. Oh 100% I mean Ice Cube went to private school. You know nobody talks about that. My ice cube from NWA wasn't from a hood, wasn't from a bad neighborhood. I actually had a very, uh, a, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, uh, a, uh, uh, a, a, a, a, a, a tot toa, a toa, a tooing tooing out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a tolu tole, a tole, a tole, tole, tole, totuu-a, to to to to to to to to to toe, toe, tote, tote, talks about that. My scoop from NWA wasn't from a hood, wasn't from a bad neighborhood, actually had a very affluent family and went and then he just sold an image.

Yeah, exactly. So, so, um, let's talk about these new shows that are coming out and your thoughts on that. FX is Snowfall, How Crack began. And the new movie from Tom Cruise, American Made. What are your thoughts on that. FX's Snowfall, How Crack Began, and the new movie from Tom Cruise American Made. What are your thoughts on that? Are you at all associated in any way with Snowfall? Did they talk to you about it? Because it seems to be your story. I believe that it is my story.

I think that it was a rip-off. You know, John Singleton, who directed it. He read my book. He bought a copy of my book at my documentary screening. He also read the movie script that Nick Cassivetti wrote for me. And no, he never did consult with me about working on the piece. I just recently got some phone calls saying that he wanted to sit down with me and he wanted me to go to the screening.

And will you be doing that? Neither one. Neither one's going to happen. I respect that. No, because I feel that what he done was rip my story off and sell it. And one reason is that Hollywood don't want me to be a part of it because they don't want the kids to know the true story. They don't want the kids to know how drugs really work. And they know that I'm not going to cooperate with putting no BS on the screen. You know, when I do my movie, I want it to be accurate. I don't care if it ain't Hollywood,

if it ain't what they think is gonna put butts in the seats, I want to tell a story that our people can learn from. Do you think this show's gonna glorify the drug business? I'm pretty sure it is, because, you know, you take a guy like John Singleton who really don't know anything about the streets and what he'll do is he'll read a newspaper and he'll make a movie script from what he read in the newspaper. It's unbelievable dude. We already know we already know how the news did with the crack epidemic how they news did with the crack epidemic, how they

took the crack epidemic and twisted it and turned it to make it where they demonized young black men who were selling crack. Yeah, when Sam said that we were going to be getting you on the show, I was like, we got to get this on before snowfall air so that the truth can get out. Yeah. Because I saw the tra tre tre th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. thi. the. the. the. the. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. And we th. And we th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And th. And th. And the. And the. And thea. And thea. And thea. And thea. And thea. And thea. And thea. And the. And the. And th. And truth can get out. Yeah. Because I saw the trailers and it's just like flashy and it's got the cool soundtrack. I'm like this is bullshit man I see what they're trying to do. Yeah once again we're glorifying like I talk about drug use in my act but not to glorify it but more to be like if people have drug problems you know they have a drug their drug problems because they're ashamed to let anybody know they have a drug problem and that they might be alone.

And I'm like, no, man, this is real. Like I smoke one time, I smoke crack one time with this guy, my first day in Hollywood. And I had to fight him because he tried to blow me. And I was just like, get out of here. Now most people don't know when they hear Rick Ross all they think about is some big fat guy with gorilla tits and a big old beard. They don't know the real Rick Ross. Did you, what is your thoughts on Rick Ross the rapper? Cartoon.

Does he ever hit you up and talk to you about like hey I want to use your name? Never, never I spoke from one time when I was in prison. Uh, strictly on my part, I ran him down and got him on the phone without him knowing who was on the other end. Uh, he sold me a bunch of lies. But you know, I sued that guy. Took him to court. And we found out in court, the guy had credit cards when he was in high school. The guy's mom and pops come from a, he had two family, two parents in his home.

Had never been any trouble. We asked him when we was taking his deposition had he ever been arrested. And the guy started for the try and the guy started for something that he had been arrested for. And then finally, he came up with, yeah, I, the, the, the, the, the, I, the, I, I, the, I, I, I, I, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's th' th' th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's the guy's the guy's the guy's the guy's the guy's the guy's the guy's the guy's the guy's thi's thi's thi's too' too' took, took, took took took took took took took took took took took thi's thi's thi's thi started for five minutes trying to think of something that he had been arrested for and then finally he came up with yeah I got arrested for a joint one time. Why does Hollywood do that? Why do they always have to just take the fake the funk out a nasty dunk? Why do they always have to take these posers and and and glorify them? Why don't they work with the real people? Well they they they they they they they they they they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they feel they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have to to to to to to to to to to to the f their f. their f. their f. their f. their f. they they they they they they they they they they take these posers and and glorify them why don't they work with the real people? Well they feel if they have to work with the real people they got to tell a real story and if they tell a real story then people are going to start changing you know a lot of our people get their information from the radio

and from TV they don't most most people don't read they don't like reading you know I'm out right now with my book and People would tell me if I had the video they would buy it instantly. Yeah Because they don't read nobody's reading anymore. So I want to the re I've since I just got let you know this man Since I started this podcast. This was the interview. From the start. thou? I that, I've to the to the the the the the the the th, I the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they, to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their. their the video. the video. the video. the video. the video. the video. the video. I. I. I. I. I. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the video. their. I. their. I. I their. I their. I the do from the start when I thought about the show. This is like, I got a interview Freeway Ricky Ross because I believe that what you went through in the 80s with the with the crack epidemic, okay, I believe is happening now with the heroin epidemic and in that the government, this is a state-sponsored drug epidemic, and that the government is behind this because as we see right now we see that you know we have US military personnel guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan ensuring that the locals don't attack them or burn them down? Have you ever thought about that as you see that the heroin epidemic

is just exploding around the country? Well we know when the Taliban control the poppy fields, none of Afghanistan Haram was making it over to our shores and now that we've invaded and take it over. I think 75% of the Haram right now is coming from Afghanistan. If I'm correct, I don't know, I haven't been keeping up as of late, but I know when I was in prison and was keeping up with it, I think those were the numbers. I mean, as a black man asked the question is like, thoughts on Obama, the heroin epidemic exploded. I mean, it's just because he's president, I think they're all war criminals. Your thoughts on Obama as a president and because we know Reagan

was behind the crack epidemic, what part does Obama have in the heroin epidemic? Well I don't know if Obama's black or not. He didn't make no black moves. That's for sure. He left, I mean, he pardoned a few guys, but he left 60 or 70,000 black men that were in prison for crack, who everybody in Congress and the Senate all admitted that it was all racially motivated. He didn't take his pen and and swipe that and say, you know what, since Congress and the Senate said it was racially motivated, and I'm black, just like the guys in prison, I'm going to take this pen and swipe them loose because nobody can do anything to me for doing it.

He didn't do that, so when you say he's black, I question that, you know, he may have black skin, but I don't know what his insides are made up. Did you think things were going to change when Obama became president at all? I was hoping so. I was hopeful. But I wasn't really looking forward to him, really making any significant changes for the inner city. And it's basically, so your opinion is somewhat like mine in that this heroin epidemic is state-sponsored. This is another way for the government to cripple communities. Now it's the white community. And do you feel like there's a different attitude towards a heroin epidemic compared to the crack epidemic? Well, we already know that it's definitely a different attitude and you know, it is mostly young white kids and poor young white kids at that. But the difference is that now it's an epidemic and they're treating it as a medical issue. And I totally agree with you that it is state sponsor

because everybody knows that the reason these kids are getting hooked on heroin is because first they get hooked on prescription medication from doctors who are licensed by the state and they give these kids these opiate base medicine and then when they can't no longer afford to buy the pills when the doctor would no longer write the prescription, well it's easy to go on the street corner and buy a five dollar bag of hair run. Yeah and do you find, do you like the biggest drug dealers in the world are CVS, Walgreens, all that, you know, is it just ridiculous that they're able to move that kind of product and without any trouble yet when you try to do the exact same thing suddenly it's a crime and

you're you're facing life in jail. Absolutely you know more people die from prescription drugs than die from all the other illegal drugs put together. That's correct. It's an epidemic right now every 14 minutes someone dies in America from prescription narcotics. This is the highest, it outnumbers traffic fatalities and this is the first time since 1979 and no one's talking about it. Why isn't anybody, I mean like, why do you think people are so ignorant and just unself-aware and don't care about this epidemic compared to the illegal drug epidemic? Well, you know, one of the things thing't care about this epidemic compared to the illegal drug epidemic? Well, you know, one of the things that people are so wrapped up and just trying to get by, just trying to

100% make a living for themselves that they can't pay attention to what's going on with nobody else into it hits their own family. I think about that all the time. Like I want to save the world like I want to save, like, I, I, I, I, I, I to save to save to save, I, I to save, I to save, I to save, I to save, I to save, I to save, to save, to save, to save, to save, the the the the to save their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. the. theeeeea. thea. theea. theea. thea. thea. theeeeea. theea. the. on with nobody else into it hits their own family. I think about that all the time. Like I want to save the world. Like I want to save elephants, but I got rent. You know, I got to pay rent. I got to get that taken care of. So, I mean, do you think the war on drugs will ever be a time when there won't be the their their their their their their their their their their their their won't be their won't be their won't be their won't be their won't be their won't be their won't be any war on drugs. Well, the only way we're going to get that is we're going to have to

get the people who run this country to rethink the way that they do business. I mean, I believe that they should deal with drugs the same way that they would be dealing with them if it was their own son or their daughter that was involved, if it was their mother or their father.... their father.. their father. their father. their own son or their daughter that was involved. If it was their mother or their father, you know, once people start to deal with drugs in that fashion, then I think that we can start making some traction. Do you ever feel nervous about the fact that you're constantly out there with this book, talking about the CIA, who I think is the most dangerous to the fact that you're constantly out there with this book

talking about the CIA, who I think is the most dangerous organization in the world? Putin just talked about how he believes that terrorism, that 95% of the terrorism done the world is done by the CIA, and I completely agree with that. Do you get worried about your life, your safety, your freedom by talking about this stuff? I don't. I don't. I have a job to do. You know, Gary Webb put his life on the line for me and people like me. And I feel that if he was ready to do that, then I should be ready as well. Do you think he was killed by the government? You know, I don't know, I don't have all the facts,

but I do think that it's kind of odd for somebody to be able to shoot themselves in the head twice. Twice, twice in the head. I heard that, I've heard that, I've heard doctors the doctor a a a th doctor thiiiiiiiii th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th be th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the to shoot themselves in the head twice. Twice, twice in the head. I've heard that I've heard doctors say that it is possible. It is possible? I've heard doctors say that. I don't know if it's possible or not. I mean, in my small mind it's impossible, but who am I? To make a medical? It's possible, is it probable? That's the question. You know, I can miss my skull and then I want to shoot again. But am I gonna do that? I don't know. The reason I asked that is like, you know, I have some fans wanted to ask a question.

In October 2005, there was an article that you had gotten arrested in Sonoma County. Is that true? And do you think that was a setup? I said that again. I missed it. Okay. So basically I was asked by a listener who's a day K. Listener that wasn't true that you were arrested in 2015 in Sonoma County, October 2015 on drug arrest. Is that true? Is that not true? Absolutely true. You were arrested. Now were you doing something? Or do you that was a set up? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I th? I th? I th? I th? I th? I th? I th? I th? I th? I th? I thi? I thi? I thi? I thi? I missed thi? I missed thi thi that that that thi? I missed? I missed thi thi that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi? I th. I th? I th. I th. I th. I th. I th? I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi? I thi? I thi? I thi? I thi? I thi? I thi? I was thi? I was thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi? Absolutely true. You were arrested. Now, were you doing something or do you think that was a setup? I was going to buy a form to grow marijuana. Awesome. And which I think is totally fine. And why does it come up? So you were arrested for marijuana, not anything hard?

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There was nobody I was buying drugs from. I was on my way to buy a piece of property. And I did tell the police I was going to buy a farm. And it was going to be to grow marijuana. That's awesome. I think it's great that you pulled out of the game of anything dealing with white powder and now you're going to actually stuff that can help people. No doubt, no doubt. And it's legal in California. So, and that's another, that's for another day, you know. I think in LA there's only two blacks who have license to run dispensaries in LA and I think that's insane.

Can I ask you something? There is obviously a black versus white situation going on, but is it, is a lot of it also rich versus poor and that they don't, they want us to fight over a lot of stuff? Does there's a poor black man have more in common with a poor white man than a poor black man with a rich black man or a rich white man? Well, you know, definitely poor, put you at the bottom of the barrel no matter what color you are. But I believe a poor white guy would have a better chance

at succeeding in business than a poor black man. Yeah, I would agree with that. I would totally agree with that. So tell us more about your book right now, a little bit more. Let's get into your book and where they can find you on your website and all that stuff. My book is called Freeway Rick Rosson told out of biography I wrote it when I was in prison. And how long ago was that? How long have you been out of prison? I've been out of prison in September would be eight years. I wrote that book while I was gone.

And what I did is I thought that it would be good for people to have a book that would explain to them how a guy would come from wanting to be a tennis star and wanting to go to college into wanting to be a drug kingpin. And it's, what's been the feedback so far on it? Have you gotten any great feedback? What people do you know? They love it. I'll be honest with you though,

most of the people that's been buying the book has been guys on the street who sell drugs. Really? Also I can't help but say that you got to buy the t-shirt on the street who sell drugs. Really? Also I can't help but say you got to buy the t-shirt on the t-shirt. I'm gonna buy the t-shirt. I'm gonna buy the book and I'm gonna buy the t-shirt as soon as this interview is over. I'm gonna buy the shirt and the book looks amazing, the shirt looks amazing. The t-shirt the shirt looks amazing. The t-shirt says the real ro rrir. R R R R R R R R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. the the tipe. the t-I-I's the the t-I's t-I's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I's the. I's t-I-I-I-I-I-s. t-s. t-s. t-s.s.s.s shirt is shirt.s.s.s.s.s.s.s. t-s.s. t-s. t-I-I-I's t-I-I's important to get out there, is let people go. You know, gave me that idea to do that t-shirt is Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan, he's my boy. I've toured with Joe.

He's a good friend of mine. I've done a show a couple times. What's Freeway Rick Ross's life like now? Running around the country. From hotel to hotel from city to city, uh, selling this book. I'm trying to sell 100,000 copies. How we doing on that? How close are we getting close. to 30,000 copies. That's awesome, man. That's awesome, that's amazing. Totally. Totally independent. I'm going to buy the book. That's great.

Where are you right now? You're just, you're heading to Michigan now? No, right now I'm in Columbus, Ohio. I'll be here until I'll do a couple more days. I mean, a couple more events here tomorrow, tonight and then I'll be going to Cincinnati and then I'll be going to Cincinnati and then I'll be going to Michigan. That's amazing man that's amazing. Where do you see Freeway Rick Ross in five years or in 10 years? Well one of my goals is to be a philanthropist and an educator I think that once people learn to become

critical thinkers we'll be much better off as a society. Yeah when are we going to start? I say thi that thi. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. thi. thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to become critical thinkers, we'll be much better off as a society. Yeah, when are we going to start? I always say question everything, it's free. Question everything. Why not? Why not? I agree with that totally. Well, honestly, man, I'm so thankful you came on our show.

We're such a huge fan of yours. Down the line when you're in Los Angeles, we'd love to have you in studio, talking about your book, talking about everything else, and just get your thoughts on everything. I'm really appreciative. You're story's amazing. I think everybody should go out and buy the book right now. It's freeway Rick Ross.com. th, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. to. th. to. the. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the Untoed Autobiography. You can buy it on Freeway Ricky Ross.com. Hey man, thank you so much for coming on the show.

I really appreciate it. Thank you and I appreciate being on. And hopefully we get together when I get back in LA in a couple weeks. And we'll do the show over again and hopefully everybody going to check out the book. It's a great book. All right, man, you, my friend, RG, thank you so much. Safe travels, man, take care of yourself and we'll see you when you're in Los Angeles.

All right, peace. Take care, ma'am. That was awesome. That was great. Thank you guys. thanks. There was one things that Rick that basically Sam was like I got to get free of her Ross on him like yeah that interview happened that interview happened because the people who listened to the show yeah you know and it was an amazing I I thoroughly I can't tell you how fucking upset I am of that as our government is behind all this

drug epidemic all these people who are losing Pete loved ones is because as our government is behind all this drug epidemic, all these people who are losing Pete loved ones, is because the government is flowing drugs into the country. I mean, dude, real quick, I, okay, protecting Poppy Fields. Look at it, it's the first thing it comes up. Oh yeah. Look at this, dude. Look at this shit. I know about this first hand. So, look at this.

I met a soldier that actually was one of these guys, you've seen these photos. Once again, I was a cable guy back in the of these guys, you've seen these photos. Once again, I was a cable guy back in the day, and so I was always do guys. Yeah, I mean, could you- And I was like, what did you do over there? He's like, I guarded a field. And I was like, what do you mean a field?

He's like, a popy field. Yeah, the heroin, the trade, the the hiun, the the the the their, their, their, they. they. they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, I was. they, I was. tho, I was. th. thi, the the thi, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was. the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t. t. toda. toda. to. to. to. to. to. to. to they don't like they ain't down with drugs. And in order to make pharmaceutical drugs, oxycodone, hydrocodone, all that stuff that gets you hooked, you need to have the actual version of it to synthesize it. Yes. And so as soon as we went into Afghanistan, that was the number two thing. The first one was that we actually had mining operations into to do lithium ion, which is it makes your batteries, your cell phone. Yes, that's a huge thing in Afghanistan. They found a giant deposit of lithium over there. We're not trying to liberate or help a place or try to put it back into order. We're basically we only go into countries that are sitting on top of resources. All wars are business wars. There hasn't th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th is th is th. th is th is th is thi thi thi thi thi the the thia thia. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. thi. thi. the. thea. thea. thea. too. too. too. too. too. today. today is is. today is. thea. thea. th of resources. All wars are business wars. There hasn't been an actual, like, liberation war since the 1776. Now, I mean, we can go all the way back to like our own revolutionary war.

Our own, like, our own civil war wasn't about slavery. It wasn't about, it was about the Reserve, the Federal Reserve. And resources, too. Yeah. The North didn't have any crops besides tobacco. The South had everything, and they're like, no, we're tired. So yeah, definitely slavery was involved, but it always goes back to resources. 100,000 people died of machete attacks in Rwanda.

Most people don't know about Rwanda because Rwanda doesn't sit on top of oil, precious minerals, doesn't have drugs that we need to like synthesize. And we destabilize that area too. I guarantee you we're behind all the destabilization. The CIA is the most dangerous organization in the world. It is. And I want to say after these these interviews, I love my life.

I never want to kill myself. I will never kill myself. If I ever end up dead. Sometimes I walk at night by myself. I'm like, this is how you die. This is how they take you out. Seth Rich style. Yep, don't do that. Yeah, I don't, I never want to die. Aaron, thoughts! This is my favorite part. I mean it's incredible, obviously, and if our government did all this shit, I mean it's awful, it's reprehensible. I'm a part of our government. Yeah. I'm willing to believe that we brought it in to fund other shit. Because obviously other shit was going down in the eight years. Dian Contra?

Yeah, sure. There's, you gotta understand something. The, the, the network of our military is so expensive. It's even the mom money we spend on it can't possibly fund when we are in a hundred and thirty-five other countries. other countries. We are bombing right now, in 135 other countries. We are bombing right now, dude. Eight countries. We are funding ISIS, who is now in the Philippines and Iran.

Do you know that now Iran is now bombing in Syria? It has officially, it was already World War III. It is now officially World War III. Yeah, how many countries does it need to be in the entire, we're into a world war? I just like, now did you hear about the stuff about, about who was his name, Oliver Stone, how he was on this late, late show on CBS,

with Stephen Colbert? No. And how that all went bad? Because they asked them about Russia influencing the election, and he brought up Israel? Now, here's the thing when you bring up any country, any organization, within any organization, there are actually good people. Definitely.

Within the CIA, there's a people who actually are trying to save the world. But there is the deep state within them that are doing some evil shit. Now, there are several there are several there are several there are several there are several there are several the the the their are their are their are their are their are their are their are thi are thiiiia thia thia thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thioliol-a. thiol-a. thiol-a. thiol-a. thiol-a. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thia. thia. thia. thia. thiia. thiiiia. thia. thia. thia. thia. th that are doing some evil shit. Now there are several different operations going within the CIA that don't even know the other ones operating. There are actually probably CIA operations that are going against each other. The left hand doesn't know what the right's doing. Thoughts Aaron? Remember when Keanu Reeves broke into that house and there was a DEA guy in it? Man? FBI, DEA, don't talk. Yeah, they don't. Yeah, they they don't. Yeah, they don't. Yeah, they don't. Yeah, they don't. Yeah, they don't. Yeah, the the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA, the CIA, the CIA, the CIA, the CIA. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the CIA. Yeah, the C. Yeah, the C. Yeah, the C. Yeah, the C. I the C. I the C. I the C. I the C. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the C. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the C. I into that house and and there was a DEA guy in it? Man, FBI DIA, DEA, don't talk. Yeah, they don't and they, like, well there's a famous thing where the FBI was going into the NSA and there was a shootout that nobody talked about.

It's all happening. It's all happening right here right now. These are the type of topics when we talk about like real-life tinfoil hat situations that deal with anything CIA, FBI, NSA. It's type of stuff that when I leave here I'm always telling Sam where I'm going to. So that if I don't get there, then he'll know. I stopped along the way and then to get a flow job from the training and got murdered and down in South Central, no. It's crazy. Aaron. I just recorded the shows, you know, the views and thoughts expressed in the show. Are that of Sam Tripoli?

Yes, only Sam Tripoli. Okay, okay, okay. Good to know you got my back. Uh, no, I'm with you. Guys. This interview happened because of you guys. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. th. to. th. th. to. th. th. to. to. th. th. to. thi. to. thi. to. to. to. to. toe. toe. thi. the thei. thi. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the views. the views. the views. the views. the views. the views. the views. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theea. thea. thea. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes. th. the. th. th. thetweeted him and tweeted him and tweeted him, and he decided to do it. So with that, I'm very thankful. Now, Ryan, you were talking about an iTunes rating thing you wanted to talk about. Yeah, we got a challenge to all the listeners

that's subscribed via iTunes. Subscribe, don't just download from iTunes. And we're trying to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to to sometime in the near future. I know it's gonna take a little bit, but that's what we're putting out to you guys. Give us five stars and talk all the trash that you want to because we love it. You know, we need it, we do this because you guys are out there listening. Let's read a couple of the reviews that we have gotten.

The last one I read. We've gotten some reviews, most recent. Hold on, let's do most recent. Here we go. Let's read them. Here you want to read some of them? Ah, co-faunt. Yeah, read it. I was never a big fan of Sam's podcast

Dot dot dot until this one. He does an amazing job with this show. It has been my top 10 podcast of all time. Great interviews and great guests Sam seems to have a passion for this and does his homework. Yeah. If you are never a fan of the live shows or the sports podcast, definitely give this Armo a second chance. My only complaint is that it ends. Thank you, dude. And then we also have Melina Lena Lina? Is that it?

June 15th, and she gave us five star, the review. Melony Leanne. And then the man with the bread, five star review. Great podcast by Sam always keeps things interesting with his point of view and great th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. thi thi, thi, thi thi thi. thi. thi. the, th. th. th. My th. My th. My th. My th. My th. My th. My th. My th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. My the, the, the, the, the. My the. the. the. the the thean. thean. thean. thin. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. the. the. the. the bread five-star review great podcast by Sam always keeps things interesting with his point of view and great topics so if you guys give us some reviews we're gonna read them at the end of the podcast and get into that now guys we want to get up to a thousand reviews if you listen if you love please go on iTunes rate and reviews I know some of you guys don't have the don't aren't on max or on iPhones so you can't th th th th th th th. the th the th th. the th. the the the th. the the the th. the the th. the the the the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. the the to to tho. the the the the the the the the the the to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. to some of you guys don't have the, aren't on Max or on iPhones so you can't. But if you are, please go on, rate and review, tell your friends. And check out the Reddit pages. We got Tinfoil Hat Show,

and there's another one called Tinfoil Hat Pod. And this is where we get the ideas for the podcast. This is all about you guys getting back to us. And the other one that I'm now hoping it will happen, I'm putting it out there in the universe. T-T- t- at Dr. Steven Greer, G-R-E-R. He is one of my talk... Stephen with a P-H-R-V? With a V? Yep, you got it. And so if you guys are madhatters are out there, tweet at him. Tell him to do the podcast, tell him we're really interested in promoting his new film that just went to iTunes and Vemo. It's called Unacknowedged. It's all about disclosure of the UFOs.

So not thirty-nineers. So get it out there, man. thii. thinnits. Yeah, we got some great shit going on. Also, go to the Twitter feed. It is, hold on real quick, and then we're out of here. Mad Hatter 39ers. Mad Hat, hold on. We got logged out, Sam, I think the CIA logged Sam out of the original tinfoil pod. Yeah, they got to me, but guess what? Not anymore.

Yeah. So here it is, dude. the podcast feed. All right. It's Mad Hatter 39ers. Follow it. Love us. I love that meme. I'm going to leave it up there. The moment you realize that your tinfoil hat-wearing friend was right about everything. This has been a great podcast. It took us a little while to get Rick Ross on, but we got them. Aaron. Aaron, any thoughts? Let's keep doing it. Wake up, Aaron! Yeah. Drink for the mom. What's that? What's that?

Yeah, and so basically if you're going to go out to see Sam's live shows, come up to him. Tell him you're a tinfoil hatter. Oh, guys, I hope people. Apologies, the guy with glasses with his girlfriend that came, and the girl that came, you guys came on weird shows. I know you, I remember you. If you guys, where are we here? Come on, here we go.

If you guys come to my other shows, I promise you, I will take care of you guys. You guys, you guys caught me on weird ones. No, this is the one of the face, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the thi, the the the the thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, the thi, thi, thi weird ones. No, this is the old one? Have to be imposed. Yeah, which one is this? The one of the face. So yeah. Oh, that's the closer, yeah. So let's do this one. Here we go. Guys, I'm a huge fan of you got.

I appreciate all the support from the Timfoil Hat people. And we will see you. In terms of live studio, we'll be off for two weeks. I will not be here because I'm going to see my mom. I'm gonna be at the Syracuse Funny Bone in two next week. So coming out me, I'm at Skankfest this week. But I'm gonna do an interview with my friend Rich Williams, a comic in upstate, in the state New York. But Ryan and I will be off for two weeks and when we get back we're gonna try to load it up on a really good one. Oh yeah. All right guys thanks tune in we love you very much. Thank you you you mad hatters for making this show possible. Until next time

we'll see you soon. Take care.