Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli #164: Transhumanism with Zoltan Istvan

Episode Date: February 11, 2019

Thank you for tuning in for another fun festive episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. This episode we welcome the founder of the Transhumanism Party, Zoltan Istvan, to discuss what the future look...s like for Mankind and technology. Thank you for all of your love and support. Please check out Tin Foil Hat new website and Tshirt Merch: TinFoilHatPodcast.com Tin Foil Hat's Patreon Patreon.com/TinFoilHat Sponsors BETDSI.con promocode HAT100 CavemanCoffee.com Promocode TinFoilHat

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did I start too soon? Welcome back to another episode of Tinfoil Hat. Come with me into the waters of conspiracy with Sam Tripoli. What's there? Triplie? Mr. Sam Tripoli. Mr. Sam Tripoli. With my friend Ryan Davis.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Ah, hi Ryan. We have a very special guest. Steve Lee. All out there, partner. I'm playing the wrong one. Fuck it. Hi, welcome to, uh, that was an old one. I got so many things on me.
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Starting point is 00:02:33 It's one of my favorite shirts ever. XG was nice enough to go out there, get the Raider logo, throw a nice little, uh, there we go, look at that! And now I'm going to be making some special ones with the rules of the Ronin on the back, okay? We're going to do that. We got the lizard one, look at that, we got that in green dude. And then we also have Eddie Bravo shirt. So every month I put up a new shirt for you guys. So I hope you enjoy that. Check out the Patreon. It's a great way to support support th. th. th. th. th. It's a th. It's a th. It's a th. th. th. th. thiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thathea. thathea. thatheatheatheatheatheatheatheat. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the lii. the li li lii. the li li li lii. the li li li lii. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thi. theron. It's a great way to support the show. Your show helps grow. We are looking to do our own studio so that I could do like more Patrians. If I can't get to this studio, boom, I go do the other studio and bring another conspiracy theorists in there. So that's where we're working on. You supporting the Patron helps make the show go. I got my conspiracies now. The secretive side of the Mad Hatters, my live view, you know, my truth bombs, they're all on there for you guys and we're doing it. So and we have a very special thing.
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Starting point is 00:05:59 I love that the world. I love the world. It's not necessarily a conspiracy, but it is what we say falls under, well falls under unreported news. What is going on in the world? There's so much that Rachel Madhouse and everybody on Fox doesn't tell you. And this next guest is a big part of, I think he's doing some pretty, pretty amazing things. Please welcome the transhumanism candidate for president, Zoltan Istar.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Did I do it? Pretty close, pretty close. That's good enough. Yeah, pretty close. In this world, I'm a grenade, bro, if I get close enough, I rock out. How are you, Zoltan, thank you for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. I'm thi. the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thian. I'm, thi, thi, thian. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I to to to th. I is is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I's, I's, I th. th. I's, I th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. the. th. the. the. the. th. th. for coming on the show. Thanks for having, I'm doing well. So, um, so you are the transhumanist candidate for president. How is that campaign going? Because we're two years out, what are we, a year out for, what are we, two years from the election?
Starting point is 00:06:57 Two years. Two years. How is it going? Well, so first off, actually, I haven't declared officially my candidacy. Do it on a a a a thia a thia thia thue. Do it thue. Do it thue. Do it thue. Do it thue. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. th. th. th. th. th. th. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. thean. th. th. t. tranean. trane. trane. trane. trane. trans. trans. my candidacy. Do it on the show. Do it on the show, dude. I need a bump. I'm in a period. So I was the 2016 presidential nominee of the Transhumans Party. There's a very good chance I'll be running again. I was also the Libertarian Candidate California. Oh, really, dude. I didn't know that. Yeah, so, but, and I run just basically on a science and technology platform and I'm, you know, pretty certain to run again in 2020. It's just, I'm sussing out the field and getting my wife on board and kids, it's tough, man. So you heard it here and he's running, he just announced on 10, 4, HAT. Guys, you're the first, this is the first time I ever heard of transhumanism. Obviously, we know trans. I live by a block where they like to eat donuts, but transhumanism is much different. What is trans humanism? Sure, it sounds strange, but it's a social movement of people
Starting point is 00:08:03 that want to use science and technology to radically modify the human body and also to modify the human experience. And it can be anything from a person in a wheelchair getting out of it because they're using an exoskeleton suit. It can be brain implants that allow you to connect directly to a computer. It can even be things just like driverless cars or have it robot mannies or things like that, but whatever it is, it's radical science and technology dramatically changing your life, and it's always like the top 10% most fringe of science and technology out there. Why is that? Why does this scare people? What was considered transhumanism even just 15 years ago, let's say robotic hearts, has become much more commonplace.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And so now we're looking at transhumanism in terms of artificial intelligence or genetic editing giving you a third or fourth arm, these kinds of things. It's always, it's kind of a movement that kind of is always on the verge between science fiction and where reality is. So, uh, how did you get into this whole thing? I mean, obviously you must have a love for science, but like how did you get into transhumanism? It's such an interesting topic. So, you know, I was a journalist at National Geographic for many years, and I had a very close call in Vietnam when I almost stepped on a landmine and almost died. And it got me thinking about, and I was only in my 20s at the time, it got me thinking
Starting point is 00:09:28 about well is there some way out there to overcome death? Now I'm kind of a non-believer, I don't believe in an afterlife. And I, you know, I looked around all of a sudden I said, wow, there's an entire movement around the world of people, scientists, scientists, mostly, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th., th., th., th. th. th. thi, thi, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, their, thi, their, thi, thi, it, thi, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i. th. th. thi. It thi. It thi. It's thi. It thi. It thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It got death with science and technology. That's transhumanism's number one goal. But what's happened is as the science has progressed, it's gotten a bigger and bigger movement which once had just tens of thousands of people now has many millions around the world. Where are the hotbeds of trans humanism? Is there like a epicenter, a mecca? Is it the United States, Germany, China, Japan? Who's really pushing it? It's Mecca is in Silicon Valley, for sure. You know, if you ask Google employees, probably half them would say, yeah, I'm a transhumanist or I subscribe to those
Starting point is 00:10:19 ideals. The same thing with Apple. You know, it's basically coming out of Silicon Valley, but at this point, China has actually taken a major lead in to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their the same thing with Apple. You know, it's basically coming out of Silicon Valley, but at this point, China has actually taken a major lead in it because they don't have so many regulations by the government. So they're doing a lot of amazing research that's kind of taking the next step forward. But still, it's a Silicon Valley rooted kind of movement. Which leads us into our next thing. What is biohacking? Well, biohacking is a term under transhumanism where you essentially put things into your body, generally mechanical, that allow you to kind of be more
Starting point is 00:10:56 cyborg-like. Like for example I have a chip and plant in my hand. It allows me to open my front door, it allows me to send a text message. It allows me to do a lot of different things. That's class of biohacking, but it can also be genetic editing where you start modifying your genes. So you can live better or live stronger. It can also be new tropics where you take brain drugs and things like that. It's an umbrella term for putting stuff in your body that involves science and technology, but usually not FDA approved. How would you send a text? By your, you can send a text by your thing? So mine says if you come to me close enough with your phone, mine will send you a text, it
Starting point is 00:11:36 says win in 2016. I had it set up so that if you swipe your phone to me, you get this text. And the new ones when you can walk walk to to to to to to to tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thu. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the the. the the the the the the. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the their. the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the th. th. th. t. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t this text. And the new ones, when you can walk into a room, they automatically send a text to everyone who's subscribed to the software. So what you're saying is you can put this chip on me or something and I can walk around a music festival or something and anybody who uses their phone would be like, they start following me on Instagram, that's possible? 100% percent. Whoa, you just, you just, my, you just got the billion,
Starting point is 00:12:06 holy shit. Go on, go on, sorry. But some of them work now within, they say 10 to 15 feet. So it's not like the whole stadium can see you yet. But that's coming maybe in five years. Wow, dude. Now, when you start talking on a show, especially named Timohat, you start talking about chipping yourself, okay? There's some real dark arts, deep state implications of this such as tracking you, this movement to get everybody off physical cash money into credit and credit cards and whether it's a cryptocurrency and all
Starting point is 00:12:47 that stuff what are your thoughts on that where like people like I thought I don't know what country or state it was where they were like like companies were forcing their people to get chipped and a lot of people are a little nervous about that I know I am. Well I mean privacy concerns are probably the greatest you know issue right now with radical technology because everywhere we look we're either being filmed or we're being recorded and all these other things and despite the fact that I come from it kind of from a libertarian perspective I
Starting point is 00:13:17 also realize that a lot of these technologies have made us freer. We can do things that we couldn't do before. We can communicate with people instantaneously. I mean, a lot of the Arab Springs has happened because people have access to the internet, all these different technologies. So I think in general, while people are worried about being tracked, we also have to look at the benefits
Starting point is 00:13:38 where it has allowed us a lot more freedom to do things. But you know nobody's talking about sort of like you know putting chips into people in any kind of mandatory way we're just like if you like the technology and it makes it more convenient then it's good you know that's basically my philosophy on it. I get nervous with some of that stuff. What do you what are the Mexican community think of that? Are they talking chipping? No they're not chipping. No not. No their their they were. No. No. No. No. They they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. They th. They th. They thi. They're thi. They thi. They thi. They thi. thi. thi. They're thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that? Are they talking chipping? No, they're not chipping. Nobody worries about the chip and only thing they like is chipping gales? They still get that vaccination that leaves that, the endent in there? Yeah. You know what's their telling about? It's very interesting when you were talking about the FDA and how it's not approved, you know, their own theories. I'm not necessarily looking their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm not th. I'm not th. I'm not th. I'm not th. th. th. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thathea. thathea. th. T. T. T. T. They's that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that vaccine. They's that vaccine. They's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the the the the. the the. they're the they're the the. they're they're the. the. the. that's right and wrong. We've seen them approve stuff that we know later on turned, wasn't good for us. But is there some kind of, when I think biohack,
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Starting point is 00:15:55 and whether you ever have to do them in the first place. Now, do you have any examples of where some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some the Like there was this guy named Gabriel, Lansing, Lincing, L-I-C-I-N-G. He was able to biohack his eye. He took some sort of salt, coral from the ocean and was put it in his eye, and now he has night vision. Like it seems like X-Man shit, right? Like it's like, have you know of any other instances of something like that where, where, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that? Like it's like, do you know of any other instances of something like that where you're like,
Starting point is 00:16:26 wow, that was kind of cool? Well, yeah, no, I mean, the perhaps the most important one that everyone is working on, there's been a couple people trying to work on like HIV vaccines themselves and things like but the really cool one that I think a lot about, so just so your your your about 8,000 people die every day from malnish, you know, from basically starving to death and around the world, obviously a lot of it's in Africa because people don't have enough food. And so now biohackers are trying to actually photosynthes themselves by changing their DNA so that they can have plant DNA, injecting them themselves,
Starting point is 00:17:05 so that they could go out in the sun and literally get energy from it. And that way you wouldn't need to necessarily eat so much food and you could solve this issue of all these children dying from starvation in places like Africa. This is not happen. So just you know, this hasn't worked yet. But there are universities and there are biohackers working on this, what could be called the holy grail of almost like humanitarian work, because imagine if you can make it so you don't have to destroy the earth to feed yourselves,
Starting point is 00:17:34 and you could keep people from starving to death. It's straight up X-Men shit, dog. It's fucking crazy. You'd be like half a plant. Yeah, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that's, that's, th. that, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th wonder if you could smoke yourself. Right? I find that so interesting. Tell me a little bit about, um, tell me a little bit about, um, cybernetics. Well, cybernetics is kind of an old school term for when you start combining synthetic tissues as well as machine parts with your body. And so there's a good chance within seven to 10 years, you will be able to electively cut off your arm and put on a robotic arm that is more functional than the arm you have now.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Already we have lots of veterans who have lost limbs and they get robotic arms and they can pick up a beer just like this and drink from it. And they can, and this is, we're talking about an arm that's connected to their brain and it just, it attaches to the neurons. And we already have that technology, but at some point, 10 years, that technology becomes good enough
Starting point is 00:18:37 that you might want to replace your arm with a robotic arm. Because because because because because because because because because because because a football, a mile long, or you're five times stronger, let's say your construction or something like that. This is all kind of part of the cyber thinetic field and happening very soon. What is the movements in robo-junk for men? Like, I mean, like, I like what they-I like, I like what they-I like, I like what the, like, what, like, man, I'd love to be like, boop, boo, poop, poop, and just like, you know, you're with a girl, you're like, what not, what do you, wait, it's almost like, what are you laying a bed?
Starting point is 00:19:08 Like, you know, she's a 74, I'm a 60, I go, poop, poop, poop, and then she got so what she wants. Yeah, exactly. Are we close on that one yet. And part of the reasons because that's, you know, I think a lot of the sexuality and transhumanism doesn't go that far, but clearly the holy grail of sexuality and some people have worked on this is an implant that bypasses all your sexual parts whatsoever and just directly stimulates so all day day at work you're like Oh that's game over. You know endless forecasts that way we're talking about the first trillionaires if they can
Starting point is 00:19:50 discover that technology and the end of civilization. No one's doing anything. I'm calling sick. But there are companies working on this and because they realize that so many people might be interested in it. So I mean like they've been trying to do this stuff in my research since like 1948. That's a very long time. I mean if you think when the computers, when did we get computers who no one's actually computers were made but it's like the 60s maybe the 70s so they've been trying to combine flashing with machines like I mean we are an amazing place when we see like how how the the the the the the the the the the the th th th like how like how like how like how like how like how like how like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like th. Like th. Like th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. to combine flashing with machines like I mean we are an amazing place when we see like how like somebody who is like basically paralyzed can now
Starting point is 00:20:31 walk it was in 1936 so it took them like 12 years to figure out I got to be I got to be one of these what the first computer was created 1936. So it took them 12 years to figure out I want to be, I want to be a bug computer. So it's just interesting dude. It's just, what is the future going to look like? Like, what, how, how meshed will we become? Well, so now in California there are two companies, one's called Colonel, led by Brian Johnson, one's called NeuralLink, led by Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And they both put in $100 million for implant technology that allows your mind to connect directly to the cloud and be real-time in Google. So you don't just look on your phone like what direction am I going, you think, what direction I going. And already, for example, even in Florida, they have have th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, thrown, thrown, thrown, the, the, the, the, the, the, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, the, the, the, thrown, thrown, the, tho. tho. the. the. thooo. the. the. the. tho. the. think what direction I'm going. And already, for example, even in Florida, they have these drone races where you fly drones by thinking the thought, a headset connects your head, it reads the brainways, and you race drones against other competitors around a track just by thinking it. So while it's taken some time to get to this point, I think from here on out, based on the evolution and trajectory of the microprocessor, we're going to see radical technology literally every few months.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I think, I think from this point forward you're going to be blown away by how quickly things happen. But the problem, like, even if we do have this kind of brainwave technology, oftentimes it takes 10, 12 years to get through, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I, I, thi, th. I th. I thi, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. th. th. th. I, I, I th. And, I th. And, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi. And, I thi. And, I thin. And, I thin, I thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, I thin, I thi. And, I thin, I thin, system that will allow you to even use it. So I mean, you know, this is crazy stuff. Yeah, it is crazy stuff and it doesn't stop there. Have you heard of cryogenics, dude? I mean, like, I've been hearing about this forever. Basically, what is cryogenics? It's the freezing, basically you freeze and you stop in time and so that later on if they could cure what
Starting point is 00:22:25 you got, they bring you back and they could deal with, you know, whether it's cancer or whatever. Is that what we're thinking here? Yeah, it's exactly right and frankly it's already happening. There's a few hundred people around the world that have been frozen, some for 10 or 20 years. And the idea is that if you can preserve the body perfectly, to be to be to be the to be to be the to be to be to be the future to be the future to be to the future to be to the future to the future to the future to to the future to to the future to to the future to the future the future the future to be the future to to the future to the And the idea is that if you can preserve the body perfectly intact or close to it, at some point in the future we'll be able to revive you. Now, our vision of death has already been changing
Starting point is 00:22:53 in the last 10 or 20 years. For example, there's a hospital right now in University of Pittsburgh, where they literally would take gunshot wound wound patients and make them die in order to replace their blood with saline solution because it's easier to operate on somebody when they're dead than it is when they're alive, take out all the bullets and then put them back. So right now we can already keep people dead for about four hours before bringing them back to life. And now this is a totally controversial method. For example, the government did approve this method. And so this has taken taken taken taken tak tak tak tak tak ta thake thake thake tha tha tha thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to to to to to to to that, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the theeeeea. theea. toeea. toea. thea. the. the. the. the government did approve this method. And so this has taken place over the last 18 months in a major university right now.
Starting point is 00:23:27 We're going to get to that point when this type of solution, this cryogenic procedures can probably keep us twenty four hours dead and then bring us back. And then eventually we'll even get to space travel like all the science fiction movies where you can be one month, five months, a year under, and still be brought back perfectly. So hold on. So the, so I'm in Pittsburgh getting shot. Obviously, the Steelers just lost the game. I got a little crazy. I get shot. I go to the hospital.
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Starting point is 00:24:18 and it preserves your brain so that your brain doesn't actually need oxygen during that period. Because it's th th th, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thuuuuu, th th thu, thu, thu, thus, thus, thu, that, that, that, to to to thus, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thu. thu, thu, thu. thu. thu. the, the. theateateate. theateatea. theateauuuu. theatea. toea. toea. toean. thean. that period. Because it's so cold. You know, basically, if you're freezing, nothing disintegrates, including the neurons that make up your mind, that make up your thoughts. I mean, your thoughts, your feelings, everything is an electional connection. If you freeze it perfectly intact, then you can keep that. So they cool it down to a temperature where the body is preserved, then it's easier to work out, work on, it's not bleeding out everywhere,
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Starting point is 00:25:31 I always heard the story that Walt Disney's head was cryogenically frozen and that that's there and that's they're available. He'd come back and be so happy for what Disneyland is now. Oh, he'd be like, oh my God, I own the world. Yeah, basically. I own the world, dude. That's so, so what is freeze tolerance? Well, basically one of the problems with cryonics right now is when we can freeze you and we can bring your body back and your organs perfectly. The real question is, can we bring back your memories?
Starting point is 00:26:12 Because we're not even so sure 100% what memories are consistent with. And so freeze tolerance is the way that they put a special solution in you before they freeze to try to make it like almost like an antifreeze, to make it so that those those th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, the, the, the, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, toe, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thr-I, thr-free, thr-free, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, their, their, their, their, they freeze you to try to make it like almost like an antifreeze to make it so that those those thoughts those memories can actually preserve better and like I said you know when someone dies you need to try to freeze them immediately because the body starts decomposing right away even though even if it doesn't look like it the brain starts kind of you know and you need to get someone frozen right away under the perfect conditions. And of course, usually during death, nothing's perfect because there's so much emotions. It's also sometimes hard because a judge, you know, we have certain cases, we have certain,
Starting point is 00:26:53 cases, when some people said, oh, I want to donate my body to cryonics and be frozen, to come back, and then a judge would say, oh no, we don't allow cryonics. Cryonics isn't allowed everywhere. For example, France doesn't allow cryonics whatsoever in the entire country. So it's a donation? You don't pay to get frozen? No, there's got to be. Only five states, no, it's not a, you generally do pay, but only five states allow you to actually cryogenically freeze your body. The only other method to do it is to sign what we call a document of gift where you have to make a donation of your body to this cryonics facility, which then takes you.
Starting point is 00:27:29 But you do have to pay them up front and pay like an annual fee. Yeah, oh, an annual fee, wow, that's crazy. Like how long do you get? The older you get the more you get, the older you get the more you pay. You have the older the older the older the older the older the older the older the older the older the older the older the older the older the older the older. The older the older. The older th. The older th. The older th. The older th. The older you get th. The older tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the older, the older, the older, the older, th. th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the the th. the the the the th. the th. the the the the. the the the the the You have to say the people that get frozen don't believe that they're dead. They call this, and I tend to agree, they call this the last, I guess, you know, the last part of emergency medicine. They believe that if they're going to be brought back to life one day, that death doesn't really mean death then death the death the death the terms that you might be thinking of it. They think it's they think cryonics is emergency medicine. Does death scare you Zultan? Does it scare you the thought of death?
Starting point is 00:28:11 I mean, it scares me, but it's not like an overwhelming fear. I just, it's not existence that scares me. I just, I love life. I think it's great. And I want to continue it, you know, I just, I don't want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th continue it you know I just I don't want to be nothing but let me ask you some I have more questions about this but are you going are you going to be what you look like right now as you age or are you going to be living forever and you're going to be like Zoltan the 2,000 year old guy who's like creeps out the chicks at the party because he's like a 2,000 year old dude Well, this is you know the classic one thing that everyone always does when they think about the futures They think of it in terms of the human being and we you have to understand trans he was true? Transheulists believe that biology is totally frail and biology has to go completely. We must merge with machines to become stronger, a new stronger species.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And so as soon as I can replace my arm electively, I'm gonna do it. As soon as I can replace my heart, I will do it. And all these things are coming, we already have a paper maker. You know, tissues of organs and stuff like that. So actually, a lot of people you probably know already have something mechanical or machine like in their bodies, especially older people. I think the future is all of us overwhelmingly probably 100% within a century's time become more machine robot like and totally synthetic.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Nothing biological anymore. Biology is designed to die. Yeah, and so the big question is we're doing a podcast next week on cloning, cloning in Hollywood, which is a big conspiracy. How do you, how do you, can they yet? Can they yet upload your consciousness to a robot to a computer? No, not yet. And to be honest, they a computer? No, not yet. And to be honest, they're not 100% sure if they can. The mine remains one of the most largely misunderstood things. It's just a very complex organ.
Starting point is 00:30:14 But we can already start uploading versions of our personality so that you could talk to a robot that has my voice, has certain ideas. And AI will take a lot of my tendencies and almost make it seem like you're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me to to me to to me to to to to to to to to to to to to to be a 100 100 100 to be a 100 to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a hundred to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to a to a to a their their their their their their their a their a their a their a the a robot that has my voice, has certain ideas, and AI will take a lot of my tendencies and almost make it seem like you're talking to me, but it's not me in the sense that it knows it's really me yet. That'll be another 10 or 20 years. So how do you live on forever? Just by if you, I mean, like we're seeing some people, they live on dementia hits. Maybe it's they're their they're they're their they're they're they're their they're they're they're they're they're, maybe it's how they're how they're eating wrong and stuff like that, or maybe their personal habits are just genetics.
Starting point is 00:30:50 But if you replace everything and you still have your brain, how is that going to keep going? So, yeah, so first off, one of the things they're trying to do is give us certain injections that would be genetic editing therapies, which are designed to restructure your DNA so it doesn't age. There are some animals that don't have the same aging tendencies that we have, so they're trying to introduce that into our bodies. A few of these experiments are already going. Another way that most people die, I mean, the main way most people die is actually through organ. So a lot of transuma support basically bionic organs. And we have, you know, bionic pancreas, we have artificial lungs, we already have bionic
Starting point is 00:31:31 hearts. But the newest method that I think is very interesting, you might just, for your listener is a visual, is they're trying to, with stem cells, create brand new bodies that actually can almost replace limb for limb or tissue for tissue what you have. Like right now we can already take your stem cells and put them in your body and recreate. And this is really interesting because if you just take skin cells from your cheek, that skin cell can then be converted into any other type of cell in your body. So let's say you have a problem with your heart cells and hopefully those will be rejuvenated and maybe even that would be that would be that would be that would be that would be that would be a that would be a that would be a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, to be, to be, to be, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, t. t. tha, t. t. t. t. t. t. tha, t. tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha. thau. thau. thau. thau. thau. thau. thau. thau. thau. thau. thau. thau. then convert it to heart cells and hopefully those will be rejuvenated and maybe even that would be a way to treat Alzheimer's.
Starting point is 00:32:08 They're experimenting with this right now as well, though it's inconclusive at the moment. So you are the guy who started the Transhumanist Party. What made you want to start that? Like, are you, how many people are people people people people people people people people people are in your party? Well, so I'm the founder of the Transuma's party and we were trying to bring the very first science and technology political party to America. You know, basically when you hear politicians, all they want to do is really talk about taxes and immigration and things.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Well, we feel like when they don't talk about some of the bigger issues at hand, like science, medicine and technology, then, then, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, th, they, th, some of the bigger issues at hand, like science, medicine, and technology, then they don't, they're missing a huge picture of what is changing, you know, modern society. Right now, it's hard to know exactly how many members there are in the Transhumus Party. I, after my 2016 campaign run, transferred the chairmanship over to a gentleman, a gentleman named Gennedy Stolero, and and he's been running it since. And you know, the Transuma's party's grown internationally. They're now multiple international parties, so we're not sure how big or how powerful it is. And I don't want to pretend to you.
Starting point is 00:33:13 It's gonna have very much state ballot access or anything like that. But in media, it's made an important difference, because finally, there's a political party that always uses the scientific method to put forth a policy that you know most policies are based on heritage or history or ethnicity or whatever it is in religion whatever but we put forth our policies based on what the scientific method would demand. Is science a religion? Is it the way we kind of tell people to believe all science and when we later go back and kind of look at, like, well, yeah, we can see these results, but are we actually
Starting point is 00:33:52 seeing the results or we seeing the interpretation that the people who paid for the results want to see? Well, no, obviously if the pharma companies are putting forth the, you know, the test, then you can never, you can never know for sure the truth. But I think science could be considered a religion in the sense that we're so passionate about it. The only difference is that science uses logic. And so you can't trick yourself and say, oh, if something doesn't go right, you can say oh, there's a bridge because we have faith. In terms of s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s, the science. the science. the science. the science. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi a bridge because we have faith. In terms of science, if something fails and the experiment has failed, and then you have to kind of go back to the drawing board. That's really where science is very different than I'd say faith or politics. There's, it's just, it's math to many ways, in many ways. Yeah, I get kind of nervous with science because like, you know, I'm the nuclear, I'm stuff comes out from it you know it's like you know the nuclear well you
Starting point is 00:34:49 know nuclear bombs and and there's a lot of diseases that are self-made to deal with population control what is the trans humans platform or is that covered in the Bill of Rights the Transhumanist Bill of Rights? Well, the Transhumus Bill of Rights was delivered to the U.S. Capitol, you know, a few years ago and has now gone through multiple versions, and it's quite complex. We're hoping the United Nations might include some of it at some point in their universal Bill of Rights. But one of the important things, I from at least the transhumus perspective is that we want to declare aging as a disease. And right now the National Institute of Health and government is really not giving any money towards you living longer.
Starting point is 00:35:33 They give money to cancer and they give money to Alzheimer's, but they don't give any money to making it so that you live longer. And if aging was declared a disease as most transhumus believe, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, transhumus believe, then a huge amount of funding would then go towards defeating aging in itself. But that's a questionable philosophical question whether, you know, you think aging is a disease, transhumus do. So what are some of the key points of the bill of rights? What are the big points? Another bill of rights, and maybe like you just talk about with nuclear wars,
Starting point is 00:36:06 a huge one is worrying about existential risk. We are worried about all sorts of diseases that can take over and kill millions and millions of people. We're worried about asteroids hitting the planet. We're worried about maybe global warming, things like that. We're worried about existential threats to the planet. So the bill of rights includes one that says governments must must tha tha thi must must must thi must must must thi must thi must thi must thi must thi must thi must thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is worrying is worrying is worrying is worrying is worrying is worrying is worrying, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. that. I mean, we're worried about existential threats to the planet. So the Bill of Rights includes one that says governments must take existential threats seriously. You know, right now if an asteroid was going to come and hit the planet, and believe me, there's so many out there.
Starting point is 00:36:34 It's a statistical probability. We have very little defense. Just tens and millions of dollars are spent to monitor that stuff. You would think with the $400 trillion out there, essentially, in the world, that we would spend more time monitoring the actual overall health of the species and worry about existential risk, but unfortunately very little is paid to that. They worry more about walls and more about all the other little things instead of worrying about actually protecting the species as a whole. Can your arm or whatever body part of a transhumanist you get, can it get hacked?
Starting point is 00:37:07 Like can your arms start moving by itself or smacking girls butts? You're following yourself and it's like wrong program. That sounds scary too though if it can get hacked or or you can. So the great story and you guys might know this is that Dick Cheney had essentially kind of a heart valve and any time he would go to speak publicly he had to turn off the Wi-Fi capabilities on his heart valve because he was afraid somebody would hack him in the middle of a speech and eventually just turned off the Wi-Fi entirely. Why does the pacemaker have Wi-Fi? What are you getting? What are you getting Netflix on your heart? Well, you know, so at this point, some of the new bionic hearts can actually be
Starting point is 00:37:48 sped up with your phone, you know, like if you want to run or do something else, or if they can be turned down if you want to sleep. So there's a whole bunch of things. Yeah, it's just weird. So how do you think this all, what? How do you th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. that. that. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. theee. thi. thi. thi. thi, what's it going to take for you Zoltan to implement all this stuff? What event has to happen for this to go, okay, man, we got to listen to these transhumanists? How do you see this? Is it ever going to be implied, applied to reality? Yeah, well, I think it is. It's really just a matter of making all the stuff affordable. You know, you're asking the question that they asked about the cars when cars first approach.
Starting point is 00:38:32 And I just saw a video the other night said, oh, no cars will ever replace horse carriages. What people don't realize is that we will all have bionic arms at some point. Because if you don't, you won't be competitive and you won't have a job. This podcast, you're doing in a studio. In 20 years, you're not gonna need a studio. It's all gonna be done from here with a headset
Starting point is 00:38:54 and we'll visually understand each other through brain waves and things like that. So we're coming to a future when, if you don't do those things, people might not listen because they want the newest and the coolest new technology that's out there. We're compelled to embrace this technology because it's functional, as we've always been compelled to take this this technology. It's interesting, you know, I hear a lot about like robots, they say in like 20 or 30 years robots are gonna replace like 40% of the workforce.. I I I I I I I I I I I'm, and I'm, and I'm, th, and I'm, and I'm, th, and I'm, th, and I'm, th, th, th, th, th, th, and I'm just, th, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's, thi's thi's, thiiiiiii's thiiiiiiiiii's thiii's thi's 40% of the workforce and I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:39:26 okay, but who's going to have money to buy anything? Like, you, it's like this weird symbionic thing that we need where it's like, I have to have a job, so I purchase stuff so that I can, so I can make money to purchase the products. You know who did it right? Henry Ford, when he made his cars, he made it affordable where the worker could buy it, but barely live for it where you have to buy a new one. You did it right where he made it barely enough where you could buy it as a worker, because what's the point if the worker can't buy it?
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Starting point is 00:40:59 It's hard to make inroads in a very blue state. And we you know, we'll see how 2020 goes and what, you know, if I decide to do that and how that works. And who I'll run with? I'm not necessarily, I'm not really beholden to parties. I'm beholden to science and technology. For me, it's really about spreading a message. And maybe I'll win in 20 years, but I have no illusions to win anytime soon. So my, because I know you got a jam here in a few, tell me how you're going to deal with traffic. If nobody dies, there's going to be people everywhere, there's
Starting point is 00:41:38 going to be lines everywhere, there's going to be traffic everywhere, and then the natural process of, you know, XG is younger than me. The natural process of life is that XG would eventually replace me as I get older, the newer generation kind of takes, and they're supposed to take care of the older generation. But if I'm, I got all this knowledge in my head. But now I got a new body, he never gets the rise. Because he can't compete because I have all the experience and I'm only gaining new experience. So how do you
Starting point is 00:42:11 deal with that? Well, so I have two daughters, an eight-year-old and a four-year-old, and honestly, my wife and I argue all the time whether they should be playing piano and we're teaching them piano. And the reason is this because there's a very good chance based on the trajectory of technology and the history of the microprocessor that we'll be able to download Matrix style how to play piano within 20 years time. I'm going to be to be so pissed man. No, you're going to be in time to play Mozart's Symphony perfectly. I just want to do this. I know Jiu-Jitsu, you know, that's what I want. Yeah, no, and we think with it, you know, matrix style stuff should be here within 20 years.
Starting point is 00:42:52 The real question is, do kids even go to college when they can do that? And can only they're rich, what kind of education do you download? Are you always connected in the cloud? Are we in a hive mind? Are we doing this podcast 100% in our brains? And the reality is that makes a lot of functional sense, economic sense too, because it's less energy, less equipment. So the real question is, but you know, it's not you. It's gonna be, right now, it's like you're a human being,
Starting point is 00:43:20 but we're all gonna be interconnected, it's gonna be a very different kind of experience I'd say. It's interesting, man. It's both Exciting and scary. Yeah, it's scary. You know if you tell me I can download Jiu-Jitsu I'm willing to listen. Not so am I and then what we just fight each other no one wins. Yeah, I like that. No, but I like it like you. I like the thought thou th. I like like th. I like th. I like the th. I like the th. I like th. I like the th. I like the th. I like the the th. I like the the the the th. I like the the the the the th. I like the the th. I like the th. I like the the the th. I like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. mean, I want to take Jiu-Jit so I'm just old and too busy. But, man, it's crazy dude. I think this is wonderful. I love the fact that you, you know, you're doing your thing. And I think that's great. And when you go and you're on the campaign, I hope you can come back and we could talk some issues and how, you know, how is the transhumanist party going to deal to deal to deal th, th, th, to deal th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I that, I that, I'm that, I'm that's that, you that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, I I I I that's, I that's, that's, I th, I th, I th. I thi, I thi, I that, that, that, that, the thate, thate, thate, thate, thate, thate an thate an thate an that, ist party going to deal with the stuff that the two-headed snakes of the Republican Democrats have kind of got us into this quagmire? And how we're not going to get out because we need the people who are there to make the change and too busy.
Starting point is 00:44:17 So my question is, are you for term limits? 100% for term limits. I'd say that's one of the biggest things I've been pushing. I push in both my campaigns too. It's absurd. This is the problem is that we have these really old, and frankly, very white, male senators completely dominating Congress. And what we need is an influx to new blood. Like I said, half those people in Congress don't even know how to use a computer. How can they make decisions for us younger people who are in a the the their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their, their, theau. I, t. I, t. I, te. I, te. I, te. I'm, te. I, te. I'm, te. te. te. te. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. know how to use a computer. How can they make decisions for us younger people who are in a technological age? I don't know why term limits change that. We allow Congress and Senate to have lifetime, be able to run for a lifetime while the president gets eight years, governors get like two terms and like everybody else has two, three terms at the most.
Starting point is 00:45:02 But for some reason, we have this one group of people who seem to be rotten to the core. You know, they go there, I think they go there honestly with like, I want to help and then they just see how goes and just checks keep getting handed to them and they're just like, oh, why would I evertake taking in they'll stay there because it's a lot Well if he gets his way they would be a change but that's why we need term limits if we had term limits New blood would flow through the system and rejuvenate itself Well, my friend Zoltan you came you saw you kicked a lot of ass and we appreciate you thank you for coming on our little show. today? that. Thank you. Thank you for coming on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on our the the the the the the the the the the to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the term term tea tea term tea term term term term term term term term term term term term term term term term term term term term term term term tea tea tea te. te. tea tea tea te. te. tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea tea te you do run, please come back and we'll talk some more politics, man. I appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Thanks for coming on the show, Zultan. It's been great. All right, man. Hey, Zultan had the jam. That's why the show is a little, a little short today. But the last one was. Check out the shirts. Come see us live. We love you guys. We'll see you guys soon. Keep fighting the fight and questioning everything.

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