To Die For - 12) The Thieves' Code

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

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To have a murder as gruesome as Jade Beasley's doesn't happen very often down here. In Marion, Illinois, an 11-year-old girl brutally stabbed to death. Her father's longtime live-in girlfriend maintaining innocence, but charged with her murder. I am confident that Julie Beckley is guilty. They've never found a weapon. Never made sense. Still doesn't make sense. She found out she was pregnant in jail.

The person who did it is still out there. Listen to Murder on Songbird Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. He was a Boy Scout leader, a husband, a father. But he was leading a double life. He was a monster, hiding in plain sight. Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers, BTK, through the voices of the people who know him best. Listen to Monster BTK on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. All eight episodes of To Die For

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They saw themselves as the real carriers of the Russian tradition. And it was a world of very small, tightly organized criminal groups, which were brought together by a very strict and hierarchical code. Leaders of these groups who were called thieves in law, which meant really thieves within their own law, they were called Vori. What the traditional mafia is to Italy, the Vori is to Russian organized criminal groups, or as they're called in Russia, OPG. The Vori were born in Soviet labor camps and eventually became the elite criminal class in Russia,

known for a specific code of honor, one that had very strict guidelines around women. The Boroskoi Zakon, or Thieves' Code. He must forsake his family. He must never work. He must survive by criminal activities alone, help other thieves, and recruit and train young beginners in the trade,

limit his drinking, and not amass gambling debts that he cannot cover. The thief can have nothing to do with the authorities or serve in the military. He must keep his promises made to other thieves and abide by punishment determined by other thieves in law. He must refrain from marrying or having a family of his own. This does not preclude him

from having a lover. I have to kill you I'm really sorry I have to do it Gotta go on my own. You didn't guess that behind. I was holding my gun. I got you.

I tell you a call. I had to kill you Was it so much fun? Episode 12, Chapter 26, Another Life So, Friday morning, I woke up, and the first thing in my brain was, oh my God, what if I will not be able to do that? What if he wouldn't like me? What if something will go wrong? I didn't know. It was the day of Aliyah's biggest operation.

On this Friday night, she would go to the city's hottest club, disguised as a high-class prostitute. Her mission? To seduce Vladimir, the head of a dangerous drug trafficking gang, and infiltrate his organization. Just one mistake could cost Aaliyah her life. There was a lot of preparation to be done, and it started with remembering that Vladimir's childhood friend had told her team that the love of Vladimir's youth, who had left him for another man, had worn short skirts, white knee socks, and braided hair. I dressed in this really short skirt and I bought a really beautiful but very sexy, very open top with crystals on it. It was sparkling white.

And I braided my hair, I put some makeup, and I put white socks to my knees. And I put some high heels. During their investigation, Aliyah's team had also learned about the personality of Vladimir's high school girlfriend. And what stood out was that she was very talkative and funny, almost silly. So I decided that I will rehearse in front of the mirror. And I just started to pronounce these words in this like giggling way. I had to make sure he would definitely be interested and intrigued by me from the first moment. And I was thinking, what would I tell him and how would I look to him?

So I trained my eyes as well with this look, with full desire and admiration. And I remembered some jokes. So I wrote down some jokes. I mean, I was freaking out, seriously. Ilya's team leader had already made the initial contact with the gang and established a relationship, pretending to be a small-time pimp and drug dealer. So in our plan, he's supposed to introduce me as one of the next girl. So he was literally like, you know, pimp.

But I didn't want to sleep with him from the first night because I knew it wouldn't be appreciated. That evening, Aliyah then met her colleagues to drive to the club and make the initial contact with Vladimir and his so-called brothers in the gang. So we said to the car, we drove. And my concern was about his brothers. He had always these like four guys next to him all the time. And they looked really violent. And they were huge. No emotions on face.

And you definitely don't want to see these guys in a dark neighborhood. Believe me, you don't. So I was thinking, how can I make them to like me? Because if I seduce Vladimir, need to seduce his in the circle in the way they would like me and they would accept me in the circle they give me the wire and it was like we will be nearby if something will go wrong don't worry because we will be just in the car sitting and like waiting for you but your colleague will be next to you, your amazing pimp. So don't worry, everything will be good.

And then my colleague said, OK, be careful. Her mission was not just to get evidence against Vladimir's gang, but to uncover the whole network that was bringing drugs in from Afghanistan, then diluting them with chemicals, packaging them, and distributing them in Russia. Our department wanted to find out who were these people who would fix and mix these drugs, because these people are responsible for all these deaths. Mixing all these doses with amphetamine and chemical drugs, it would kill other people. Eventually, Aliyah arrived at the club. It was one she'd never been to before. The most

popular and exclusive in the city. So, we are there. I see the club. Huge building. Beautiful girls standing outside smoking. Beautiful dresses. Just gorgeous. The music was so loud. And every time I hear this music, I'm remembering that night. Her contact, who was undercover pretending to be her pimp, was waiting outside and went over the plan with her. He gave me instructions. We should come to the bar, a counter, and order some drinks. And he will do the whole introduction. And all I need to do is just smile, be nice, and just be playful.

If Vladimir likes you, usually if he likes the girl, I introduced him. He invites her to the table. If he doesn't like her, he doesn't introduce her to the table. And that's how I know that I should find another girl for him. Between her strict upbringing, military school, and Chechnya, Ilya had never been to a place like this before. As she walked to the door, she was intoxicated by the glamour, almost forgetting the gravity of her mission.

I'd never been in the club. I'd never been dancing. I'd never hang out with other people like that. So I just wanted to have fun, and I was thinking that I'll do my job. But you know what? I'll have a good time. Why not? We came to the bar counter. My pimp ordered some drinks and I was like, don't think.

But from my peripheral vision, I saw Vladimir looking at me because they were sitting at the corner table, which was the biggest table, and it was on the stage. My pretending peep, he said, okay, be ready, he's coming. Stop drinking. He came and he looked at me and he was like observing and studying what I'm doing. Like every single my move like... And it was so exciting. It was so cold and it was so dangerous.

I didn't even want to have any thought that he may ever know that I was an undercover agent. I just didn't allow this thought to come to my brain as I was taught. Never think about a failure because you will fail and I have to be the winner. So then my pretending pimp, he touched my shoulder and he said, Hey, this is Vladimir. Want to introduce you? And the moment I looked at Vladimir with my seductive, playful look. The whole love which I created for two months, looking at him every single day for eight hours at least.

And he noticed. Ilya worked her usual routine, making sure to embody the positive, funny qualities of Vladimir's former girlfriend while adding in her seduction training, specifically flattery. Complimenting Vladimir as he talked about being one of the owners of the club. And that's the power of the manipulative compliments.

And while he was telling me these things, we were walking and he brought me to the table. And we sat down and my pretending pimp I could see him so he was standing at the bar counter and just like sipping a drink I felt like it's okay I'm not alone

I felt safe kind of more or less so I asked him some questions felt safe, kind of, more or less. So I asked him some questions, which will lead him to the conversation where he would think that we have mutual interests. After creating this initial rapport, Aliyah moved on to the next part of the script she'd been practicing. So I had homework to write these stories, and then I rehearsed it in part of the script she'd been practicing. So I had homework to write these stories and then I rehearsed it in front of the mirror so I could tell him and he laughed.

And then he told to one of his guy, oh look like listen to her story it's so funny like she's a she's a funny girl. It was a crazy feeling when you're playing the role of someone else. Even though, like, I did the rehearsal and I did the whole preparation, but yet, inside of me, I still had this kind of, what if? You know, like, I need to be careful here. As she worked to win over the group, she noticed that one person in Vladimir's gang wasn't trusting this unfamiliar woman

who seemed to be entertaining the whole table. And I started to tell this funny story and everybody laughed. I fought from one guy and he looked at me like he was looking through me, trying to read my mind and just like checking every single details which I had. I felt that look. I didn't like it at all. It made me worried. And Vladimir said, oh, this is my right hand, which I knew.

I always used to see him next to him. So he never, like, had any emotions on his face. He would be really, like, strict, and he wouldn't go out with any girls. Really kind of like a good security, like a perfect dog, which is just watching and sitting there. And I try not to pay attention but I felt that I should be really careful with this guy.

Like super careful. To have a murderer as gruesome as Jade Beasley's doesn't happen very often down here. In Marion, Illinois, an 11-year-old girl brutally stabbed to death. Her father's longtime live-in girlfriend maintaining innocence, but charged with her murder. I am confident that Julie Beth Lee is guilty. This case, the more I learned about it, the more I'm scratching my head. Something's not right. I'm Lauren Bright Pacheco.

Murder on Songbird Road dives into the conviction of a mother of four who remains behind bars and the investigation that put her there. I have not seen this level of corruption anywhere. It's sickening. A few steps, about many times you would have blood splatter. Where's the change of clothes? She found out she was pregnant in jail. She wasn't treated like she was an innocent human being at all.

Which is just horrific. Nobody has gotten justice yet. And that's what I wish people would understand. Listen to Murder on Songbird Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. He was a Boy Scout leader, a church deacon, a husband, a father. He went to a local church. He was going to the grocery store with us. He was the guy next door. But he was leading a double life. He was certainly a peeping Tom, looking through the

windows, looking at people, fantasizing about what he could do. He then began entering the houses. He could get into their home, take something, and get out and not be caught. He felt very powerful. He was a monster, hiding in plain sight. Someone killed four members of a family. It just didn't happen here. Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers, BTK, through the voices of the people who know him best. Listen to Monster BTK on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

As she sat at the table, trying to win the acceptance of Vladimir's circle, Aaliyah saw an opportunity that might save the mission if her seduction failed. To recruit one of the women there as a friend and unwitting informant. So she set her sights on the member of the entourage who seemed to be closest to the gang. She was wearing very low waist jeans and her panties, I could see her panties like out of her jeans

and it was all kind of like crystals. And I was so shocked. First of all, I've never seen anything like that. And then I was like, wow, this is like super fashion. And I started to speak with this girl about her like look and fashion style and said like, oh, you put everything so nicely. And she loved it.

And we started to talk. So Anna, her name was Anna, she was a perfect informer. First of all, she was in the gang for quite a long time and she was sometimes sleeping with one right hand of the Vladimir. And she's like, oh my god, you're so cool, you should come again. We should hang out. And we exchanged numbers. So it was good, because I will get more information about this gang. Like, what does she know? I wanted just to get everything out of her head. With this small victory secured,

Leah tried to figure out how to turn her attention back to Vladimir. And I felt that Vladimir looked at me a few times, very briefly. And I put my hand on his knees very softly. And I felt that he liked it. And then I slowly moved my hand a little bit further. And then, you know, just on his inner thigh a little bit. And at the same moment he hugged me, I felt like, yes, okay, I'm getting closer. Good. So I established kind of connection.

Whenever Aliyah noticed Vladimir speaking about something that excited him, she used the NLP techniques she'd learned in the academy and tried to anchor those good feelings to her. And when he had these positive memories, I touched his neck. I established that, that anchor. And I thought like, you know, like it has to work because it did work on Cornell. It was important for me to have Haidt's desire to meet with me again. To be like, you know, there is something about this girl. I don't know what, but she, she's interesting. And then Aliyah used one of the oldest seduction tricks in the book.

Leave them wanting more. But in about an hour, I said to Vladimir, I'm really sorry, I have to go home. My university starts like at early morning and I have to do my classes. He was like, yeah, of course, I do understand. And he said, let's go, I will drop you off. This was the moment when Aliyah knew she'd accomplished her initial objective.

An added success was that she would now have some time alone with Vladimir in a car. It was also an added danger. Vladimir signaled to two of his friends, who left with them and followed in a car behind. We were driving to my house to drop me off, and I was thinking if my colleagues, if they will be following us or not.

I didn't know that time, but I knew they were checking on me. Well, that's what I wanted to think. Chapter 27. Uncle Stopa. This is the face of a true Russian mobster. The logic goes like this. Cops usually catch the grunts, the soldiers, the lower-level thugs and crooks who do the dirty work, while the bosses who give the orders sit back and maintain the appearance of innocence. The bosses don't like to get their hands dirty,

and so it is rare to prove serious crimes against them. Aliyah had just left the club with her target. She was now alone in the car with Vladimir, the leader of one of the biggest drug trafficking and extortion gangs in the city. Behind her, there was another car following them, filled with other equally dangerous criminals in Vladimir's gang. She hoped that behind them were the much less dangerous, much less experienced members of her backup team. While we were driving, he asked me some questions.

Like, what's your blood? Where are you coming from? Because I obviously don't look like a Russian girl. And I said, well, guess. And he was like, Tajikistan. I'm like, warm. Okay, Uzbekistan, I'm like, warmer. So what, like Kazakhstan? Like, yes, hot, hot, hot.

And I was giggling and he loved it because it brought him to his childhood. He's like, you're so funny. Like, what, you couldn't say you're from Kazakhstan? I'm like, well, it wouldn't be interesting, right? Don't you like games? And he looked at me like this, well, depends what kind of games. I said, like, with me, it will be only funny games.

They soon arrived in front of Aliyah's apartment. I leaned to Vladimir and I kissed his cheek and I said, well, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. And he's like, okay, sunshine, sleep well, and I'll text you tomorrow. And I remember I was like walking into apartments like all my hands were shaking. I was like, oh my god! Oh my god, I can't believe it. Like, wow. It was

an experience. I felt so many emotions. I asked Aliyah whether she was worried that since the gang knew where she lived, they could then follow her and find out she was really an intelligence agent. We agreed before with my team, once I will infiltrate the gang, I will not go back to the office at all. Also, I had a separate number which was, you know, the SIM card was registered not on my name.

The next day, Ilya texted Anna, the woman she had met at the club, in hopes of befriending her and recruiting her as an informant. They agreed to meet at a trendy cafe later that afternoon. I went to see her. She was sitting in a beautiful dress, looking so cool, beautiful. So I started to ask her about herself first.

She was hanging out with this gang for almost a year, which was really important to know her well and establish good connection. Eventually, Aliyah found a way to ask Anna about the very quiet gang member, the one who was staring mistrustfully at her in the club the night before.

And then that guy who was looking at me with these like sharp eyes, absolutely cold and tough, that guy actually was one of Vladimir's very old friends. So that guy actually was responsible for bringing and supplying heroin and cocaine. And she said, like, he's so creepy. He always, like, sitting there, like, quiet, and he looks at everybody and everything. As Aliyah talks more about her meeting with Anna, she keeps referring to how stylish Anna was and how well the gang took care of her financially. So I asked her if although her job was to seduce the gang, was she also being seduced by the

glamour, celebrity and lifestyle of the gang? And you didn't have any female role models, in a sense, until you met Anna. Anna was my role model, 100%, because I asked her like, where do you buy all these crazy, amazing clothes? And she's like, oh, it's like this boutique. It's super exclusive. I'll bring you there. And yes, I was seduced by the fashion that moment. Yes. seduced by the fashion that moment. Yes, that's where my fashion desire and fashion comes from

that time. A hundred percent. Because look, also it was USSR, everybody was wearing the same very dark and just very awful clothes. And then USSR fall and all these American clothes comes, like jeans, like cool shoes, like trainers. Back at her home, Aliyah received a text from Vladimir, inviting her to meet him at the club that evening. I came to the club by the taxi. I texted Sasha, he said he's on the spot. I also texted Anna.

I said that I'm coming. So she was waiting for me. So I walked in. And it was scary. I felt like I'm a deer or like a llama walking into the tiger's home. But I said, no, I can do it. So I put a big smile on my face. And I saw him.

He looked at me and he stand up. And that guy was also there, exactly the same spot. And I saw he was watching me, watching through me. And it felt like he knew who I really was. Aliyah tried to focus on the task at hand, returning her attention to Vladimir, the gang's leader. I wanted to seduce him. So we talked about his past and he told me a little bit about his family, which is great. And there was one question which every man loves and every man wants to talk about this. And this is the question which brings women very close to the man.

And the question is... Ilya pauses and asks me to guess the question. Very similar to the game she was playing with Vladimir. I'm unable to guess it. When I was in the military academy, the colonel said, the most psychological technique which really makes the brain of the man becomes really attached to the woman. If the woman asks, what was your dream when you were a little boy? Then I asked this question to Vladimir and he said, I wanted to be like Uncle Stoppa. Uncle Stoppa, it's Marshak's poem for children,

and it was about this Uncle Stoppa who would be like a real hero in real life. And he was like a policeman. Can you imagine, Vladimir, when he was a little boy, he wanted to be a good, noble, brave policeman. And I touched his hand and I said to him, that's so amazing. I wanted to work in police too,

but I go into another direction. But you know what? We still can try a lot of things in our life. You're still young. The whole world is around us. Like, you know, you can do anything you want. And I smiled. But inside of me, I felt like, you don't know what you're talking about.

Because I was in trouble. And he, that moment, he was, he had much more and bigger freedom than I did. To have a murder as gruesome as Jade Beasley's doesn't happen very often down here. In Marion, Illinois, an 11-year-old girl brutally stabbed to death. Her father's longtime live-in girlfriend maintaining innocence but charged with her murder. I am confident that Julie Beth Lee is guilty. This case, the more I learned about it, the more I'm scratching my head something's not right. I'm Lauren Bright Pacheco. Murder on Songbird Road dives into the conviction of a mother of four who remains behind bars and the

investigation that put her there. I have not seen this level of corruption anywhere. It's sickening. If you step so many, that many times, you have blood splatter. Where's the change of clothes? She found out she was pregnant in jail. She wasn't treated like she was an innocent human being at all. Which is just horrific. Nobody has gotten justice yet. And that's what I wish people would understand. Listen to Murder on Songbird Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

He was a Boy Scout leader, a church deacon, a husband, a father. He went to a local church. He was going to the grocery store with us. He was the guy next door. But he was leading a double life. He was certainly a peeping Tom, looking through the windows, looking at people, fantasizing about what he could do. He then began entering the houses. He could get into their home, take something, and get out and not be caught. He felt very powerful. He was a monster, hiding in plain sight.

Someone killed four members of a family. It just didn't happen here. Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers, BTK, through the voices of the people who know him best. Listen to Monster BTK on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. This second night with Vladimir was key to Aaliyah's seduction. If it didn't go well, she might never see him again.

And it's becoming clear here that this was important to Aaliyah, not just because she wanted to succeed in her mission, but because she wanted to keep her access to this world she was becoming so enamored by. The world of beauty, power, luxury and fashion that her strict father forbid her from participating in as a teenager. At the end of the day, I had to do my job. It had to be the best night in his life. The best. So the time has came and he kind of like nod with his hat and his brothers and these two guys stand up and we started to walk out from the club. They drove to Vladimir's home,

a building that Aliyah had staked out many times over the past few months, but she'd never been inside. And we came to his house. It was a big house, beautiful. We walked upstairs, but these two guys, they were in the house too. were kind of like security but also friends and colleagues it was a little bit difficult because i was planning to

like search house and see what's everywhere we walked into his bedroom and I saw a big bed. And I saw ceiling was Miro ceiling. And it was a little bit awkward because I've never seen anything like this before. And he started to kiss me. And you know, that moment I surprised. I never felt this with anyone before. My whole body reacted on his kisses and on his touches. And I felt good. And I just forgot that it was my job. And I forgot that I have to do it to get information. And I forgot that it wasn't really me.

I just said myself, I just want to experience that. I want to try it with a man whom I really want. Not when I was abused or raped. I want to do it for myself. So I just... I accepted him. Fully. And I never ever experienced anything like that before. And it was so beautiful and powerful.

Like, he just opened me like a woman and I looked in the mirror and the ceiling and the first moment in my life I received such a strong orgasm he was the first man who really gave me that pleasure and that understanding of my sexuality as a woman. And I felt so special in his hands. There was just one problem with this otherwise perfect moment. Aliyah was not here to feel special. She was here to find evidence against the man she was starting to fall in love with. I stand up slowly so he wouldn't wake up. I didn't go downstairs because I didn't know exactly where these guys were sleeping.

But upstairs, I opened the door of another room and I saw huge black trash bags. So I walked and I slowly opened it and I saw that it was full of cash. Lots of, lots of money. Aaliyah's story continues in episode 13. What city do you live in? I'm in Los Angeles. If I didn't like you and I found you in Los Angeles and stabbed you on the sidewalk,

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Beck Media and Marketing, Oren Siegel, Becky Jensen, The Nord Group, Meredith Stedman, Rose Baruch, and Alex Vespas did. To have a murder as gruesome as Jade Beasley's doesn't happen very often down here. In Marion, Illinois, an 11-year-old girl brutally stabbed to death. Her father's longtime live-in girlfriend maintaining innocence, but charged with her murder. I am confident that Julie Beckley is guilty. They've never found a weapon. Never made sense.

Still doesn't make sense. She found out she was pregnant in jail. The person who did it is still out there. Listen to Murder on Songbird Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. He was a Boy Scout leader, a husband, a father, but he was leading a double life. He was a monster, hiding in plain sight.

Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers, BTK, through the voices of the people who know him best. Listen to Monster BTK on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.