To Die For - 4) Lessons From a Sex Spy

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

"Once you get your target to trust you, you can you can do what you want to them: kill, get information, betray, recruit, wherever."    Show Credits: Produced by Tenderfoot TV in association with iHeart Podcasts Host/Writer: Neil Strauss Guest: Aliia Roza Executive Producers: Neil Strauss, Donald Albright and Payne Lindsey Lead Producer and Editor: Tristen Bankston Additional Editing: Miles Clark and Christian Brown Supervising Producer: Tracy Kaplan Consultants: Nooshin Valizadeh, Chelsey Goodan and Jaime Albright  Cover Art Design: Byron McCoy Original Music: Makeup and Vanity Set, with additional music by Ben Fleisch Mixed and Mastered: Dayton Cole Theme song: Killer Shangri-lah by Pshycotic Beats featuring Pati Amor Special thanks to: Oren Rosenbaum and the team at UTA, Beck Media and Marketing, Oren Segal, Rebecca Jensen, Rose Baruc, The Nord Group, Meredith Stedman, and Alex Vespestad     For free, confidential, 24/7 support for survivors of sexual assault, as well as information and resources, visit rainn.org, or call 1-800-656-4673. For more podcasts like To Die For, search Tenderfoot TV on your favorite podcast app, or visit us at tenderfoot.tv.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

To have a murder as gruesome as Jade Beasley's doesn't happen very often down here. In Marion, Illinois, an 11-year-old girl brutally stabbed to death. Her father's longtime live-in girlfriend maintaining innocence, but charged with her murder. I am confident that Julie Beckley is guilty. They've never found a weapon. Never made sense. Still doesn't make sense. She found out she was pregnant in jail.

The person who did it is still out there. Listen to Murder on Songbird Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. He was a Boy Scout leader, a husband, a father. But he was leading a double life. He was a monster, hiding in plain sight. Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers, BTK, through the voices of the people who know him best. Listen to Monster BTK on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. All eight episodes of To Die For are available now to binge absolutely free.

But for ad-free listening and exclusive bonuses, subscribe to Tenderfoot Plus at tenderfootplus.com or on Apple Podcasts. Warning. The following contains graphic descriptions of violence and sexual assault that may be too intense or triggering to some listeners. Discretion is advised. One, two, three, four. Alia Rosa is demonstrating one of the tactics she learned during her espionage training. The idea is that through certain breathing exercises, she can deepen the resonance and power of her voice. I know that sometimes you feel lonely.

I know that sometimes you feel betrayed. I know that sometimes you feel sad. And speak to the deeper part of her target's subconscious mind. And it's okay, because I feel the same. And I want to tell you that you're not by yourself in this world. I feel you. I'm very, very proud of you. And you're so beautiful.

But there is a price to pay for this. You have a beautiful soul and beautiful spirit. Because after a certain point. Please always remember that no matter what, promise me that you will never give up. You get so good at faking your emotions. Because I believe in you. I know you can do it. You lose touch with your real feelings. I love you. I'm really sorry I had to do it Gotta go on my own You didn't care

Stop it, hon I was holding my gun I got you I tell you a call I had to kill you. Was it so much fun? Was it so much fun? Episode 4, Chapter 10 Seduce Yourself

At the first day, the female teacher said to us, You are very privileged to be here because those knowledges which you will learn here in this walls will change your life. Because you will become almost like a superhero, super humans. Why? Because you would know how to make anyone to do what you want. This is Alia Rosa talking about her first special training class at the Russian Military Academy. She was being trained to become a seduction spy or a swallow for Russian intelligence.

Training, though, may not be the right word for it. Violated, manipulated, and traumatized might be more accurate. Her introduction to the Russian world of sexpionage came a day earlier, when after her horrifying experience with the main colonel at the academy, she was called into the office of a lower-ranking officer, a lieutenant colonel, for another one-on-one. So I walked into her room, and she was sitting at the huge wooden table with a big, on a big,

like, you know, like Soviet Union style chair, like her throne, like she was like the queen. And in fact, she was really the queen of the academy because everybody respected her. She had really big assignments in the past. And, you know, she was a cardinal a cardinal I mean like that's a high rank for a woman and she was about 50 ish she looked just perfect in her uniform everything was so clean and nice and her haircut was just so perfect I felt so shy and so stupid and so small in front of her. And she told me, why are you standing there like a fool?

Come and sit. So I followed her order. I sat and she said, where is... Thank you, ma'am. I was like, I'm so sorry. Thank you, ma'am. Okay, so do you know why are you here? I said, well, I am happy to serve my country.

And she said that I am the lucky one because I've been chosen. I will be studying additional... Aliyah was then briefed on the special program she'd be placed in, where she'd be trained in the art of seduction along with four other female recruits. She was then sternly ordered not to share a word about these classes or techniques with anyone else

at the academy or in the outside world. She asked me straight, when was the last time you had sex? And she asked me so directly, so I just, I think like that moment I felt like my cheeks were blushing so much that she noticed that. Ilya hesitated, trying to decide whether to tell the female colonel that the last time was when she'd been assaulted earlier that day. I wanted to tell her that,

because I felt that she's so powerful and she just knows what to do. But then, inside of me, something told me I should not tell her the thing, because it might be bad for me, because it's not safe. My father always taught me, never share with anyone anything. You always have to have your secret. And I didn't tell her anything, I was just blushing. And she asked me, are you fucking virgin?

And I just said, no, I'm not. Okay, well, I guess you don't know anything about sex either. There's so much work to do. The interview, already unusual, became even more uncomfortable at this point. Okay, so do you know how to receive an orgasm. And I said, well, I think I do, I guess. And then she said, okay, got it. Right, go to your dorm this evening and there is a task for you. You have to masturbate in order to please yourself. And then tomorrow I am going to ask you in front of your classmates and you will start

your education. I was so confused. I was like, why would she ask me such a weird thing to do? Besides, I didn't really masturbate before because I didn't really study my body, and it's according to my culture and my religion, it was forbidden. And she said, okay, go. And I left.

Absolutely confused. Overwhelmed on every level, Aliyah did not do the task she was assigned that night. The next morning, at shooting class, she saw the male colonel again. He looked at me a few times,

with his eyes, like, checking on me. And every time he looked at me, I had very disgusting feeling inside of me. And I was just holding myselfmate in that special program, she was smiling and looking at the Cornell and he was kind of like smiling back. I noticed that there is some kind of like connection going on, but I didn't know exactly what was that. So I decided to just collect more information. To have a murder as gruesome as Jade Beasley's

doesn't happen very often down here. In Marion, Illinois, an 11-year-old girl brutally stabbed to death. Her father's longtime live-in girlfriend maintaining innocence, but charged with her murder. I am confident that Julie Beth Lee is guilty. This case, the more I learned about it,

the more I'm scratching my head. Something's not right. I'm Lauren Bright Pacheco. Murder on Songbird Road dives into the conviction of a mother of four The more I'm scratching my head, something's not right. I'm Lauren Bright Pacheco. Murder on Songbird Road dives into the conviction of a mother of four who remains behind bars and the investigation that put her there. I have not seen this level of corruption anywhere. It's sickening. If you step so many times, you have blood splatter.

Where's the change of clothes? She found out she was pregnant in jail. She wasn't treated like she was an innocent human being at all. Which is just horrific. Nobody has gotten justice yet. And that's what I wish people would understand. Listen to Murder on Songbird Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

He was a Boy Scout leader, a church deacon, a husband, a father. He went to a local church. He was going to the grocery store with us. He was the guy next door. But he was leading a double life. He was certainly a peeping Tom, looking through the windows, looking at people, fantasizing about what he could do. He then began entering the houses. He could get into their home, take something, and get out and

not be caught. He felt very powerful. He was a monster, hiding in plain sight. Someone killed four members of a family. It just didn't happen here. Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers, BTK, through the voices of the people who know him best. Listen to Monster BTK on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. At 4 p.m., Aliyah had her first top-secret class. It took place in a smaller, adjacent building that she hadn't been to before. She walked into the classroom, dreading what faced her, and saw four other women sitting before. She walked into the classroom, treading what faced her,

and saw four other women sitting there. When I entered the class, I saw these beautiful, blonde, blue-eyed girls, and I thought to myself, man, I'll never make it. I felt so ugly and just different and so stupid. And all these girls, they were just so gorgeous. They all had their notebooks ready to learn and everybody was so excited. Our female coronal came in and we all stand up and we said, Hello, Cornell, and then she let us to sit down. So the lesson has started. At this point, the teacher appealed to their sense of patriotism and to their egos,

telling them how lucky they were to receive this powerful information and the coveted field assignments that would follow. She continued. These knowledges such as manipulation, influence, seduction, programming of someone's brain, you can use as an agent to recruit informers from different countries. First of all, you need to understand that

everybody has their weak spots and their goals and dreams. So you have to manipulate his dreams and his weaknesses in order to get what you want. And this is very powerful because you don't just use it for seducing someone. You use it for anything and for everyone. The first question the female coroner asked us, how did you do your assignment?

Did you succeed with your task? And she started to ask each of us, did you do your task, your homework, Elena? She said, yes. Did you have any difficulties? She said, no, I do it quite often. It's okay. It's normal to me.

Then another girl, she said, yeah, everything is okay. I did it. It's fine. So then I had to answer the question. And I said, said honestly you know I just couldn't do it because it was too loud and I couldn't concentrate and I just I didn't feel like this way you know

so she said in a very strict way and almost like angry way she said okay the merit to you. The female colonel then lectured Aliyah in front of her classmates. If you want to do any homework I give you, then you can tell goodbye to this academy and to this position. You don't understand how privileged you are to have this job. You don't understand how privileged you to be here in this room and getting this secret knowledge nobody has. You have to be so honored that you are here right this moment

and you didn't do such a simple task. How are you supposed to seduce any criminals if you don't even know how to seduce yourself. And I was like, that's interesting kind of like sentence, like that's interesting thing. So how am I supposed to seduce myself? She explained to us, you need to know how to experience an orgasm in order to have orgasm with any man you sleep with so they feel that you really come, you're not pretending.

How can you do it if you never experience orgasm yourself? As Aliyah spoke, I wondered at first why a Russian military colonel was talking like an American self-improvement teacher. Then I realized, she wasn't. She was talking like a cult leader. And sure, maybe the idea was that in order to connect with someone else, we must first make that connection with ourselves.

But behind these lectures and assignments was a far more sinister motive. We are conditioning you, step by step, to surrender your body and your pleasure to the state. To turn you from a human being with natural desires for love and sex into an emotionally void soldier for whom love, sex, and pleasure are weapons to protect national security. Then she gave us the task to find the sex partner in the academy so we should practice our skills on someone. I was really shocked and I was really surprised. The first day was difficult and I was super tired

and I just wanted to go to my dorm and just lay down and sleep. I was exhausted. As Aaliyah walked to the female side of the dorm and approached her room, she heard men talking in the hallway outside, which was out of the ordinary. They were senior students and seemed to know that some of the female students had been asked to find sexual partners. One of these men began talking to Aliyah as she walked into her room. He came closer to me and he's like, oh, you're the new one.

And I said, yeah, like, yes. And, um, I don't know. He just fucked me and I just couldn't do anything then he left and I just was laying there as an idiot he basically he came and he just used my body and that's it and I said myself like I cannot handle this every day. I cannot allow everyone taking my body any moment they want. And I was super angry at myself and just lost. And just, I felt so hopeless because I couldn't do anything.

And I didn't know how to stand for myself. I was angry for myself that I couldn't say no and I couldn't reject anyone, I couldn't do anything, I just, I was just used. I was so confused from the beginning of the education and that event which happened with Cornell. So I just wanted only one thing. I wanted to be strong enough. So not like I could reject, but I could protect myself. I just wanted protection. That's all. And I didn't want for sure give my body to anyone who ever wanted it. And that night I decided that I need to find a way out of this circle of sexual abuse.

But I didn't know how. To have a murderer as gruesome as Jade Beasley doesn't happen very often down here. In Marion, Illinois, an 11-year-old girl brutally stabbed to death. Her father's longtime live-in girlfriend maintaining innocence, but charged with her murder. I am confident that Julie Beth Lee is guilty. This case, the more I learned about it, the more I'm scratching my head. Something's not right.

I'm Lauren Bright Pacheco. Murder on Songbird Road dives into the conviction of a mother of four who remains behind bars and the investigation that put her there. I have not seen this level of corruption anywhere. It's sickening. If you stab somebody that many times, you have blood splatter. Where's the change of clothes? She found out she was pregnant in jail.

She wasn't treated like she was an innocent human being at all. Which is just horrific. Nobody has gotten justice yet. And that's what I wish people would understand. Listen to Murder on Songbird Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. He was a Boy Scout leader,

a church deacon, a husband, a father. He went to a local church. He was going to the grocery store with us. He was the guy next door. But he was leading a double life. He was certainly a peeping Tom, looking through the windows, looking at people, fantasizing about what he could do. He then began entering the houses.

He could get into their home, take something and get out and not be caught. He felt very powerful. He was a monster, hiding in plain sight. Someone killed four members of a family. It just didn't happen here. Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers, BTK. Through the voices of the people who know him best. Listen to Monster BTK on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Chapter 11. Killing Tools.

After her experiences, Aaliyah began not just to be a student at the academy, but an observer, silently trying to figure out how the system worked, who was important at the academy, and how she could keep herself safe. Meanwhile, the classes continued. After a week or so of lessons on human psychology,

the instructor introduced a new female teacher, a major, who then took over a portion of the class going forward. I looked at her and she was so beautiful. I was so shy and I thought to myself, wow, I want to look like her. She was just perfect. She was tall, she had beautiful skin and features and she had, you know, this sexiness about her. I remember something was inside of her eyes.

She looked so powerful and beautiful, but her eyes were full of this pain or loneliness, and I felt like I liked her. For her first lesson, the new instructor asked Aliyah to stand up and come to the front of the room. She asked me to walk in front of the whole class. I walked and then she stopped me and she asked the whole class, OK, so tell me what mistakes in walking does she do? My classmates, Elena and Natalia and other girls, they were telling, OK, she, you know, she walks too shy, she dropped her hat down,

she doesn't look in front of her, and she has this very unstable walk. And I was so embarrassed. So she probably saw it in my eyes and she she said that's okay we all start from something so she was quite nice to me in the beginning and she said just copy me and just do what I do and just walk with me and she showed us how does she walk so we could copy her and do the same and she walked like a Victoria's Secret model. She explained to us the body has to be fully relaxed and your hands have to be relaxed

and when you walk you look straight in front of you and you don't drop your face down or too much up because your eyes have to be on the same direction that your target. So you look more or less into the eyes. The next day was much more fun and I just loved it because it was all girly stuff and I felt like I'm a Cinderella or something like that. That day she brought all kind of makeup, mascaras and eyeliners and lipsticks and like so many things. She basically taught us how to do the good makeup by applying like toner first and then a cream and then the powder. The major then taught the students a lesson about one of the most vulnerable parts of a man, his eyes. Men, when they look at the face of the woman, they look at her eyes and lips. There's two things. Eyes is a very

important tool to seduce your target. When you put eyeliner and you put mascara, you can play with your eyes to make it more intriguing and sexy look. And that's what your target wants. I remember I was like taking different lipstick and trying on and she explained that red lips associated with the female vagina for men. So when men look at female lips, the most attractive for a man, red lipstick. the next technique was important of like our appearance the way we dress so we were wearing uniform but in a civilian world of course we had to learn how to wear clothes men like basically and if you would start okay so as less close as possible, this is wrong. Because men, they want to have imagination. They want to see some small part of body, but they want

the woman to be covered so they can imagine what her body looks like. A basic black pencil skirt and white shirt, which is like unbuttoned and your target can see your cleavage. And also like black high heels. When it's always a game, always intrigue, always maybe yes, maybe no. That's the most sexist clothes for any male target. There was also another reason for this type of clothing, what a magician would call misdirection.

You should always put accents on your butt and on your breast. If you will have like a very deep neckline when she needs to seduce target and eventually kill the target, the focus of the target eyes would be on her breast. When he focus on her breast, basically, right on her voice and having this conversation on a drink, she can basically give his briefcase to another agent or he would walk by and put the bag on his suit. When it came to makeup, Aliyah was taught an additional lesson that less is more. Less makeup as well, less lipstick in terms of like not too much like

lipstick and powder. This was for two different reasons. One is that if you're seducing a married man, you want to make sure he comes home clean without evidence of an affair on his clothing. The second reason, Aliyah explained, is also related to evidence. If you need to kill your target and you need to kill your target after sex or like during sex,

you cannot leave any evidences behind you. So no glitter, no even like makeup, no perfume as well. It's important because then even like smell can stay on pillows or on his short hair as well like either you wear a wig ponytail or something so you don't leave your hair next to his body because then they can track you and it's easy also no earrings unless it's like not that easy to unlock heels have to be very comfortable because like heel is a good tool to kill as well like you can really punch someone with the heel it's like really good for eye eyeballs. Nails are good if you also know how to use them you can kill with nails you know know, like literally like with the good nails. If I go like to your head like this and I put my, these two fingers into your eyeballs,

I just punch like that. Then straight away you will feel pain. You will go down like this and then it's easy just to put you down and I punch you with my knee? As Aliyah tells me this, I question whether or not it was right to do these interviews in my home. She goes on to discuss another reason why the right clothing was important. Also familiar to magicians. Concealment. If you need to hide some sort of information like USB, then you need to think where to put it. So, for example, when you cut your heel and you to store some important things which, you know, they cannot lose. Sometimes you have to be in the situation where they can take all your clothes off and your bags.

So it's only one place really to hide something. After posture, clothing and makeup, Aliyah was taught about another important tool, voice. The tone of your voice, the way you speak with your target, it could be also like deep or high, the tone. So when you start to speak with your target, you need to adapt your tone to his tone. And if you do the same poses when you speak and the same stress and accent on words, so it also helps. I'm amazed, as I listen to Aliyah speak,

how in-depth her classes went. At this point, she's had weeks of training and hasn't even gotten to the first word exchanged with a stranger. The only other people I've ever heard discuss social dynamics at this level of micro-manipulation before were the pickup artists I wrote about in the book The Game. In fact, the technique she just mentioned was actually in the book, called mirroring.

You need to become his mirror in everything, in body language, in speaking, intonation, like voice tone, everything, eyes, same interests, same goals, same ideas, everything has to be so mutual. So then eventually your target will think like, oh, it feels like I know you for many years, so I can trust you, you're my friend. And when you do this, then you can, you know, all the focus on the trust. And then at the same time, behind, you can do what you want. Kill, get information, betray, recruit, whatever. Each day, the techniques became deeper and more elaborate.

Until Aliyah learned the hypnotic speaking method you heard at the beginning of this episode. She told me that there is a breathing technique which I can use to make my voice sound deeper and sound more sexier. And she said, okay, breathe in. I breathe in and she said, place your air like down there where is like your bottom of your belly. And now she said, now feel your place, feel your vagina, feel your sexuality.

And now you exhale. The instructions continued. She asked me, now you talk. When I started to speak, I sound just different, so deep and sexy and sensitive. And she told me, now remember how your voice sounds. So every time you want to seduce your target, you have to sound like that. As the lessons continued, they became more and more extreme. Until one day... I walked into the class and I took my seat as always. And every table we had dildo, we had lubricant and condoms.

I was really shocked. Then our female teacher said, today we have a special lesson. And this is very powerful techniques which I will just show you. If you want to terminate your target, it's very important. Ilya's story continues in episode five, which is available now. You can keep listening for free on Apple Podcasts.

For full credits, check out our show notes. If you or a loved one are a survivor of sexual assault, you can visit RAINN.org, that's R-A-I-N-N dot org, or call 1-800-656-4673 for free, confidential, 24-7 support. To have a murder as gruesome as Jade Beasley's doesn't happen very often down here. In Marion, Illinois, an 11-year-old girl brutally stabbed to death. Her father's longtime live-in girlfriend maintaining innocence, but charged with her murder.

I am confident that Julie Beckley is guilty. They've never found a weapon. Never made sense. Still doesn't make sense. She found out she was pregnant in jail. The person who did it is still out there. Listen to Murder on Songbird Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. He was a Boy Scout leader, a husband, a father, but he was leading a double life. He was a monster, hiding in plain sight. Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers btk through the voices of the

people who know him best listen to monster btk on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows