To Die For - 6) Dancing with the Devil

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

"Every single mission, I would ask myself, 'Why would you do that?' And I'd tell myself, 'I'm saving lives. I'm saving the world. That's why I sacrifice my body for this mission."   Show Credits: Produced by Tenderfoot TV in association with iHeart Podcasts Host/Writer: Neil Strauss Guest: Aliia Roza Executive Producers: Neil Strauss, Donald Albright and Payne Lindsey Lead Producer and Editor: Tristen Bankston Additional Editing: Miles Clark and Christian Brown Supervising Producer: Tracy Kaplan Consultants: Nooshin Valizadeh, Chelsey Goodan and Jaime Albright  Cover Art Design: Byron McCoy Original Music: Makeup and Vanity Set, with additional music by Ben Fleisch Mixed and Mastered: Dayton Cole Theme song: Killer Shangri-lah by Pshycotic Beats featuring Pati Amor Special thanks to: Oren Rosenbaum and the team at UTA, Beck Media and Marketing, Oren Segal, Rebecca Jensen, Rose Baruc, The Nord Group, Meredith Stedman, and Alex Vespestad     For free, confidential, 24/7 support for survivors of sexual assault, as well as information and resources, visit rainn.org, or call 1-800-656-4673. For more podcasts like To Die For, search Tenderfoot TV on your favorite podcast app, or visit us at tenderfoot.tv.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

To have a murder as gruesome as Jade Beasley's doesn't happen very often down here. In Marion, Illinois, an 11-year-old girl brutally stabbed to death. Her father's longtime live-in girlfriend maintaining innocence, but charged with her murder. I am confident that Julie Beckley is guilty. They've never found a weapon. Never made sense. Still doesn't make sense. She found out she was pregnant in jail.

The person who did it is still out there. Listen to Murder on Songbird Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. He was a Boy Scout leader, a husband, a father. But he was leading a double life. He was a monster, hiding in plain sight. Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers, BTK, through the voices of the people who know him best. Listen to Monster BTK on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. All eight episodes of To Die For

are available now to binge absolutely free. But for ad-free listening and exclusive bonuses, subscribe to Tenderfoot Plus at tenderfootplus.com or on Apple Podcasts. Warning. The following episode contains explicit language and sexual themes. Listener discretion is advised.

When I spoke yesterday for seven and a half hours, I realized that it's still there. It didn't heal, you know? It didn't. It's still fucking, like, painful. Fuck. Aaliyah Rosa has returned to my home to continue telling her story. Yesterday, she had a seven-and-a-half-hour therapy session.

Part of living with PTSD is never knowing when a small incident, even as in Aaliyah's case at a friend's birthday dinner, can send you spiraling into a dark place. When I'm sharing my story, I want to send a message that everyone who suffers needs a professional support. And, you know, it's really difficult to heal after a big trauma. And that's why my therapist took seven hours instead of just one you ask me like i want to understand you i want to be you who am i i don't know i thought i knew i thought like oh like i'm, I walk the red carpets and I am building this

business and I'm so successful, everybody say. But in reality, actually, I'm not. I'm still that girl who was raped and abused and went through that without even understanding why would I even do that. Why would I go to the military? Why I had to let this colonel like took advantage of me every single time? And why would I train my brain to like having sex with him, even though I didn't. And every single man I had to go and seduce

and do all these missions, every single time, I always closed that feeling that, what the fuck are you doing? Why would you do that and I would say well I do it for good you know how amazing it sounds when I would say myself I'm saving someone lives I'm saving the world that's why I sacrificed my body for this mission I had to kill you

I'm really sorry I had to do it Gotta go on my own You didn't guess the behind I was holding my gun I got you, I tell you now I had to kill you Was it so much fun? Episode 6, Chapter 13, Tears of Weakness Every day we had gun shooting classes

and we would go to the shooting range. Almost every day I had to see that colonel and I didn't know how to behave and he always looked at me in this weird way. And then a few lessons. Aliyah had left off her last interview with a story of her lessons on seduction and honey trapping. But while the teachers in that class expected her to use her body to serve the state, there were other officers who expected her to use her body to serve them.

So life at the academy was unsafe for Aliyah, and there was no escape or way out. At least, so it seemed. And then, after three lessons, one of the students came and said, like, the colonel so-and-so calls you to come to his office. And I was like, shit. When I was walking in the hallway, I remember I felt really lost. I knocked the door. He invited me to the room and he told me to sit down. So I sat down in the chair and he asked me, so how is my lessons, my educational progress going on? And I said, well, it's going okay. I study, I suppose, well. But then he said, you know, I can improve your life. Right now, your life here is not that casual and easier you work as every other students but

i can help you with many things and i can help you with the next like job positions i'm very powerful you know it i said yes sir i know and he said that there is a special department which was established recently by president putin and they're looking for new very professional very clever educated agents and he said that i can refer you to this department and it's really high level job position and I'm thinking of this would be great I guess and he said to me that I can refer you and just take off your clothes. And I understood something that moment. I understood, first of all, if I want to survive here without any male student,

just come to my dorm and just take advantage of my body. And this colonel is the main teacher. So if I will have protection from him, then nobody will touch me. Fortunately, Aliyah's training was all about seducing and controlling men with more power than herself. But would it work on the predator who had sent her to that training?

Second, I remembered when our female teacher said in the class, you will be dealing with criminals. So how can you make criminal to commit to you and falling in love with you? And she told us there is like, you know, step-by-step strategy which you can use so I was thinking I don't want to be used just like body but if I have to I will do it but I will do it on my conditions if I have to play your game, like, eventually, I'll win. And I started the game. And so, Aliyah studied her seduction lessons with extra diligence,

with the intention of using these techniques not just to protect her country, but to protect herself. The first step of this game was making herself stand out as more than another student for the Colonel to abuse, but as someone who he saw as more special with greater potential. I had to plant in his head a seed that potentially I could be his protege and I could be that special for him, close to his heart. And I didn't know by that time if I could do it or not. But I thought, you know what, let me just use these techniques. You know, practice it on him and let's see what will happen. She immediately began developing and executing this plan step by step.

It started with a lesson she learned on the first day of class. It was a long process. First of all, I had to train my brain to like him. I had to show him that I really enjoy it, which I didn't, of course. So I put on my wall his photo and I started to look at him and trying to find some sort of positive things he may have, but he didn't.

So I tried to trick my brain, telling my brain that he's not so bad. You know, he's still educating many students to be the best agents, and he helps them. I would say he was a good man at some point, like, somewhere. So it helped me to look at him in a way where I would respect him for his kind of actions. I wouldn't respect him what he did to me or some other girls. It's

uncomfortable to hear the story of a victim training herself to like her abuser. But tragically, this can be the norm in a society where predators have absolute power over victims who have no other recourse. In the Gulag Archipelago, author

Alexander Solzhenitsyn's famous book on the Soviet prison camps, he tells this story of what happened to women there. Attractiveness was a curse. Such a woman had a constant stream of visitors on her bunk and was constantly surrounded. They propositioned her and threatened her with beatings and knives and she had no hope of being able to stand up against it but only to be smart about whom she gave in to to pick the kind of man to defend her with his name and his knife from all the rest from the next in line from the whole Greedy Q. To have a murder as gruesome as Jake Beasley's doesn't happen very often down here. In Marion, Illinois, an 11-year-old girl brutally stabbed to death.

Her father's longtime live-in girlfriend maintaining innocence, but charged with her murder. I am confident that Julie Beth Lee is guilty. This case, the more I learned about it, the more I'm scratching my head. Something's not right. I'm Lauren Bright Pacheco. Murder on Songbird Road dives into the conviction of a mother of four who remains behind bars and the investigation that put her there. I have not seen this level of corruption anywhere. It's sickening. If you stab somebody that many times, you have blood splatter. Where's the change of clothes? She found out she was pregnant in jail. She wasn't treated like she was an innocent human being at

all. Which is just horrific. Nobody has gotten justice yet. And that's what I wish people would understand. Listen to Murder on Songbird Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. He was a Boy Scout leader, a church deacon, a husband, a father. He went to a local church. He was going to the grocery store with us. He was the guy next door. But he was leading a double life. He was certainly a peeping Tom, looking through the windows, looking at people, fantasizing about what he could do. He then began entering the houses. He could get into their home, take something, and get out and not be caught. He felt very powerful. He was a monster, hiding in plain sight.

Someone killed four members of a family. It just didn't happen here. Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers, BTK, through the voices of the people who know him best. Listen to Monster BTK on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. After Aaliyah convinced herself to start liking the monster who would hopefully become her protector,

the next step was to brainwash him into liking her. I started from compliments. Female teachers said that every compliment has to be very authentic and it has to be very related to what man does in his life, not the way he looks. So man really appreciates compliments when it goes towards his actions. Man connects with you faster. Every time I would see my colonel, I would tell him some compliments like that, so he would get used to it. As Aliyah's plan progressed, she attacked the one vector on which almost all men are vulnerable.

Even when, like the colonel, they know the game. And that vector is the male ego. My colonel, by that time he was 48. So for him it was very important about his sex performance. And I had to put into his brain that the sex performance was so amazing to me. I created that situation for him where I said, I'm so grateful for giving me such an amazing experience and amazing pleasure because I have never had it before.

Instead of telling him, you bastard, you almost raped me and you take advantage of my body every single time. I made it opposite because I told him the story about my first sex experience when I was raped by my colleague. And I said that I couldn't feel anything and I felt so bad. And I, you know, I thought like sex doesn't have any like pleasure. And now I know how to feel pleasure and I would just say to him from that perspective where he is just a sex guru a sex machine you know who can perform any moment any time that he's just amazing

complimenting the Colonel sexually, was not enough. However, it built up enough trust so that Aliyah could start flattering him emotionally as well. I wrote a letter. It was full of compliments. I started from the words, I really appreciate having you in my life

because I've been so lonely and I didn't know anything. And in this letter, I shared a little bit the story where I felt like a victim and he helped me to go through my traumatic experience. In fact, he didn't, but I made him in this story to be a hero. Because the female teacher said, if you create a story and you make your target to be a hero in your story where he saves you, he feels good about himself. It was not real, but you made him to be this hero. Meanwhile, the classes continued, and the techniques became more and more physical. Every time, Ilya took notes on what would work on the kernel.

Because there were five girls in the class, we did massages to each other one of the massages was like sexy massage how to give pleasure during massage to men or women also there are certain dots on the body certain spots which you need to pressure because we would call it like dots of sexuality and dots of honesty and also dots of killing like when you can basically kill by this pressuring these spots but if you pressure if you if you touch the spots of honesty and sexuality, then your target most likely will have a strong connection with you. And then your target can tell you any information and basically trust you. The massage techniques Aliyah learned

were mixed with the teachings of NLP, or Neuro-Linguistic Programming. Specifically, a concept called anchoring. Ironically, this exact technique was also part of the book I wrote about how pickup artists work in the United States. Here's an explanation of that technique from the audiobook. Two-timer leaned over and whispered, that's anchoring. It's when you associate a physical feeling, like attraction, with a touch or gesture. Now, every time Ross raises

his hand like that, she gets attracted to him. And as this pickup artist was anchoring women he was trying to date in LA, Aaliyah, at almost the exact same time in the early 2000s, was doing this to the Colonel to save

herself from these types of men. There is one important thing which I did to him. That's why he wanted to see me every day. I put an anchor with the positive memory into his brain. It's exactly how our female teacher told us to do. So when I was doing massage, I said, well, I want you to relax, close your eyes and memorize the best day of your life. The best, when you felt so good, so amazing and so happy. And he started to remember that day when he was awarded with his coronal rank. And he said it was a parade and he was very proud of himself. And it was one of the best day of his life. And when he was telling me that, when I was doing massage,

I was pressing some body spots. So next time, if you touch the same spots, he will remember again good memories. This is the anchor. The next step was for Aliyah to connect herself to those good memories, to get the colonel to make a personal emotional attachment to her. So I asked some of, you know, students, and I've heard some of the conversations that my colonel had similar background as me.

He was sent by his dad to the military and I decided to take it as a tool to connect him with me. His brain will think that I can trust her because she had the same background. So I started to share my life story and I said well you know my father as you know like he sent me here and my grandfather was national hero and I said you know I just feel so obliged that they have to be proud of myself and I feel like I'm so weak and I'm so inexperienced. And I just feel so lost and so lonely.

And I started to cry. You know, like these tears, like human tears, the tears of weakness, because every man wants to see that he's stronger than a woman and strength of woman is in her weakness. So I sat on the sofa and I started to cry like just like a little mouse, you know, without like to being too hysterical or too dramatic. Ilya's plan worked, and soon the colonel was consoling her by sharing his own experiences growing up with a father who also sent him to the military when he was a teenager.

And when I was sitting and pretending that I'm crying, I was thinking, this is exactly what I wanted. So he started to relate his story to my life and I asked him but yeah but how would you become so powerful and so successful I don't have any idea how to do it I said I want to be like you I want to be the female version of yourself because I admire you so much. You're just perfect. Please help me. What can I do? And that moment I looked into his eyes and it was important to read his reaction when I would tell him these words. And I saw that a rising desire to teach me and help me. That's the moment where I understood that he's on board. To have a murderer as gruesome as Jade Beasley doesn't happen very often down here.

In Marion, Illinois, an 11-year-old girl brutally stabbed to death. Her father's longtime live-in girlfriend maintaining innocence, but charged with her murder. I am confident that Julie Beth Lee is guilty. This case, the more I learned about it, the more I'm scratching my head. Something's not right.

I'm Lauren Bright Pacheco. Murder on Songbird Road dives into the conviction of a mother of four who remains behind bars and the investigation that put her there. I have not seen this level of corruption anywhere. It's sickening. If you stab somebody that many times, you have blood splatter. Where's the change of clothes? She found out she was pregnant in jail.

She wasn't treated like she was an innocent human being at all. Which is just horrific. Nobody has gotten justice yet. And that's what I wish people would understand. Listen to Murder on Songbird Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. He was a Boy Scout leader, a church deacon, a husband, a father. He went to a local church. He was going to the grocery store with us.

He was the guy next door. But he was leading a double church. He was going to the grocery store with us. He was the guy next door. But he was leading a double life. He was certainly a peeping Tom, looking through the windows, looking at people, fantasizing about what he could do. He then began entering the houses. He could get into their home, take something, and get out and not be caught. He felt very powerful. He was a monster, hiding in plain sight. Someone killed four members of a family. It just didn't happen here. Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers, BTK, through the voices of the people who know him best. Listen to Monster B.T.K. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Chapter 14. The Assignment. As Aaliyah's seduction escalated, so too did the teachings in her classes.

Until one day, as you started to hear at the end of episode 4, she walked into the room to discover an unusual scene set up, even for this place. And every table we had dildo, we had lubricant and condoms. I was really shocked. Then our female teacher said, Today we have a special lesson. And this is very powerful techniques, which I will just show you. If you want to terminate your target, it's very important. So you need to write everything wherever I'm telling you and then practice it on your dildo.

The way she explained to us, she said, every man pride is in his lower body part. She opened the condom, she put the condom on the dildo and we placed our dildos and we put on the top of the condom and we just looked at her. She started explaining that knowing how to make your target to have an orgasm according to the time you want, it's very important. Aliyah goes on to explain in more depth how the teacher taught them to count out a rhythm and slow down or speed up in order to control the exact moment when their target would orgasm and thus be at his most vulnerable. She then covered other techniques designed to get a man to surrender his logical mind to desire. Very important for us was to give our target the understanding that it could be the best sex experience in his life. So he had to be hooked on it and he would want to give something

for this experience because we were not prostitutes, were not hookers our mission was to get information out of our targets and hook them on our skills i understood if i want to be the best i have to learn it but she said you shouldn't do it quite often. So you should just give some tease that you can do it and you can reward him by doing that when he does something to you. For example, if your target gives the information you need, you can reward him with the very special oral sex techniques, which he'd never been experienced before. If he doesn't do it, then it could be just sex without oral sex. You know, you give me information, I give you perfect oral sex. Ilya clarifies that there were two different situations for which he was taught these techniques. The first was to kill a target.

I learned that if you know how to do perfect oral sex, it's one of the biggest power you can have over men. By just knowing this, you can easily kill your target. The second was to get a target to trust you and give you regular information without ever knowing you're an undercover agent. And it was these techniques that would allow Aliyah to actually shift her power relationship with the colonel so that she started to become the one with the control.

But if you need your target to trust you and to believe you and you need to get some information, you must make him to believe that you trust him first. When he's releasing and you touching him in his like neck or like somewhere very private, then that moment the body remembers this touch. So the next time if you want him again to get hard or give you information or do something you need, you touch that spot. That's it. When you say words, you're the best man in my life. I trust you. I'll always be here for you. I love you. Like, all this words, I mean, all this total bullshit. But yeah, it works.

At the end of the class, the moment came that Aliyah dreaded most. The teacher's homework assignment. The goal of this one was a degree of brainwashing that was evil even for here. To desensitize these young students to the act of sex. She said, you have to be sexually open, very open. So when you have sex with your target, you wouldn't be attached. And in order not to be attached, you have to have sex with many, many partners.

So for you, sex wouldn't be a big event in your life. It would be like normal daily routine. She just said like, well, you need to have like as more sex partners and it's easy. You have like full house of like practicing tools.

Just go and practice, basically. After the class, Ilya went to see the colonel again. And for the first time, she had something she needed him to protect her from. When I spoke with him, he asked me, okay, so what did you learn? Like, did you already started to learn like oral sex techniques? And I said, well, yeah, we started. So he said like, okay, so what exactly did she teach you?

So when I would show him the way I was taught, he would correct me and say, oh, like, she doesn't give you all the techniques or, like, ask about this technique or, like, you should practice more. This is the way you should do it. This moment, when the colonel stepped into the role of mentor and Aliyah as protege, created an opportunity for Aliyah to ask for her first favor. I told him about my teacher, my major,

who said that we should have different partners. And I said that I am not really into that because I just, I want you, only you, as my sex partner. I don't want anyone to take me, I just want only you. That moment I wanted to trigger and play on his ego. It's only you.

The colonel took the bait and made his first move toward protecting Aliyah. But there were consequences. Because it turned out that the major who was teaching Aliyah's class was also sleeping with the colonel. So after that conversation, then the major found out that I sleep with her lover, basically,

because he told her, you can educate her, but do not give her these tasks and don't send her to any other tasks. That's where it was the point when she started to hate me. There was a clear motive for the hate. The tactics the major had taught Aliyah were working all too well on the colonel. Soon, Aliyah didn't even have to ask him to protect her. He did it on his own and in his own way.

There was a moment where I started to be very important to him, like dear to his heart, where he asked me the name and the department where my colleague who raped me works, that's the moment I understood that he cared about me. So I did it right. So all these techniques which I implemented on him, which I used on him, I felt like it does work. That's all Aliyah thought about it at the time.

But then, several months later, she received the news. A few months later, my colleague from the same department where I had my internship, he told me that my former colleague who raped me was found dead in his apartment. And the police stated that it was a suicide. I don't know. I had thoughts that it may not be suicide. Perhaps my coroner had some involvement in his death. Aaliyah's story continues in episode 7, available now.

Continue listening for free on Apple Podcasts. For full credits, check out our show notes. To have a murder as gruesome as Jade Beasley's doesn't happen very often down here. In Marion, Illinois, an 11-year-old girl brutally stabbed to death. Her father's longtime live-in girlfriend maintaining innocence, but charged with her murder. I am confident that Julie Begley is guilty.

They've never found a weapon. Never made sense. Still doesn't make sense. She found out she was pregnant in jail. The person who did it is still out there. Listen to Murder on Songbird Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. He was a Boy Scout leader, a husband, a father, but he was leading a double life. He was a monster, hiding in plain sight.

Journey inside the mind of one of history's most notorious killers, BTK, through the voices of the people who know him best. Listen to Monster BTK on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.