Today, Explained - Good Bunny
Episode Date: August 22, 2025Bad Bunny is having a very good summer making Puerto Rico feel like the center of the universe. This episode was produced by Avishay Artsy, edited by Amina Al-Sadi, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, eng...ineered by Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast. Bad Bunny performs during his first show of his 30-date concert residency at the Coliseo de Puerto Rico José Miguel Agrelot in San Juan. AP Photo/Alejandro Granadillo. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Have you hit up any of the big shows this summer?
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Drake is also on tour.
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On today explained from Vox, we're going to talk about how Bad Bunny managed to make Puerto Rico the center of the universe this summer.
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My name is Andrea Gonzalez Ramirez.
I'm a senior writer at The Cut, and I grew up in Puerto Rico.
I would say it's like one of the biggest cultural events that we've seen, I think, in the island.
Bad Bunny, born Benito Antonio Martinez Ocasio, for those who would like his legal name, too.
It's holding an 30-show residency in Puerto Rico pegged to his most recent album,
Devitian Mast Photos.
The first nine shows were open only to residents of Puerto Rico.
You had to go in person to purchase tickets at different selling points
across the island.
And then from August 1st onward,
so like the next 21 shows,
those you could purchase the tickets online,
which is how I was able to do it.
The experience of trying to get tickets for it,
now I understand how Taylor's Foot fans felt during the Eros tour.
Because that morning I did not get a code
and I went through the five stages of grief
before I actually got one to get tickets, right?
But once we got there, I went with my husband outside El Choli, which is what we call the arena.
This was kind of like a town festival, a Fiesta Patronal.
You could get, like, beers, you could get your hair done, you could get your makeup done.
And once you come in, obviously, the arena holds about like 18,000 people, so it's a lot of people.
and the energy is unhinged, I think.
Like, everyone's really excited to be there.
There's a screen with a projection
where they're, like, showing, like, Puerto Rican facts.
Like, Puerto Rico is a U.S. colony.
Salsa was invented between Puerto Rico and New York.
There's two main areas where he performs.
In the main stage, he kind of recreated rural Puerto Rico.
And then the second stage is a...
pink casita that resembles a lot of homes in Puerto Rico.
And that's where, like, the really filthy perreo happens.
Like, that area's reserved for the songs that you would probably not play to your parents
because they're so, so filthy.
I was pretty high up.
I was in the last, literally the very last row of the top section,
closer to God than Bad Bunny.
But you can see everything.
And yeah, like, it's really incredible
because, like, a lot of people are wearing traditional clothing,
like pavas or hibara dresses.
I was wearing a Roberto Clemente jersey.
And then when the music starts, like, basically you get a musical arrangement
of his newest song, Alambre Bua.
That sounds a lot like,
Bomba and Plena, which are two traditional
Purican music genres, and then
he comes in with a bunch of, like, dancers in traditional garbs.
And it just, you know, everyone went a little bit crazy
when he was on stage, but it really looks
like you are transported back in time
to a Puerto Rico from 100 years ago,
but also kind of like what a school performance
would look if you celebrated
Puerto Rican week, like
La Puerre Canada at school, right?
It was insane.
I cried, I danced, I laughed,
I was very sweaty by the end of it.
You know, it was so much fun.
He plays over 30-something
songs from his nearly decade-long
catalog over three hours.
You know, he kinds of
divided the show in four acts, I would call it.
You have that first couple of songs where he's kind of marrying his modern music
with some of these traditional musical arrangements.
And then you have like a second section, which is almost like an acoustic set.
And that was kind of like the sad bunny came out where he's just like,
like, singing a bunch of his most popular songs about Heartbreak.
After that, usually, like, you have a VIP guest or someone from the audience, say one of the phrases from, one of his new songs,
And you have someone saying, like, H.P.R. is other thing. Like, Puerto Rico is something else.
And in that section, that's usually you have the musical guest.
And then the last section is kind of like his salsa portion of the evening.
He's dressed very much like Ector Labo in the 1970s and has like a live band of like 20 people
up there and it's like incredibly fun.
His last two songs are the lead song of the album, Debted Almas Photos,
and then The Mudanza, and during DTMF,
and De Vitil Almas Photos, like he's talking about like,
oh, I don't want my people to move.
And it's like a really, it's like a really moving song.
You had like people hugging all where and like, you know, singing with their
families. Like, there was so much joy. I could not stop crying because I think that as someone
who left Puerto Rico, like, it just felt like a level of grief that we carry a lot if you are
in the diaspora. And then like being there, feeling so at home, I was just like, this is the best
thing. And also, I'm so incredibly sad right now.
And I cried throughout the entire song, and then he wraps up with La Mudanza, and I was still crying throughout.
He is saying, like, no one's going to take me out of here.
Like, it's a very, it's a very fun song, but it's also, I think, as the closer in the album and as the closer in the show,
there's like a level of defiance and like pride
that comes with that song
and it's very emotional and I think that
once my husband and I walked out
we're coming down the nosebleeds
you had like people chanting
I'm Boricua
so you know it like
I'm Puerto Rican just so you know it
it just felt very
lovely and empowering
to be surrounded by
so many of us and I don't know
I think there was like this sense of community that was like
Like, very beautiful and also very fun, and it kind of, like, healed me whatever, like, trigger I had had.
Two songs prior, like, definitely when we walked out, I was like, oh, I kind of love this a lot.
What does it mean to have one of the biggest artists in the world do an exclusive residency on an island?
What's the population of Puerto Rico? I don't even know. Is it, like, fewer than five million people?
Yeah, it's like three million.
people at this point. Like, there's five million Oregon's living in the U.S., like a state side.
It's like a smaller population than many, many states. Right. What does that mean for the island?
It's a declaration he's making, right, that you can be the biggest artist in the world or one of the
biggest artists in the world and you don't have to compromise or change your art or attempt to
cross over to appeal to an English-speaking audience, and instead you can just bring everyone
to your home and show them what Puerto Rico is about. It's an incredible economic influx.
But I think it's also like a political statement in a way. We are an American colony. He very
intentionally said that he was not going to tour in the U.S., and instead he was going to do a global
tour elsewhere after the residency, right?
So I think it's just like demonstrating his love for Puerto Rico and reminding us that
it doesn't matter if we're a tiny island of 3.5 million people or so that you can do
like really impressive art in there too.
The concert itself is a love letter to Puerto Rico.
I think it's also a love letter to our generation.
generation of Borikas, people who like me are millennials or Gen C, and who grew up in a very
different island from our parents.
A lot of experts call us the crisis generation.
We've lived through political changes, financial crisis, climate disasters, a lot of us like
me have left.
So yeah, like I think that the show itself was like a celebration of who we are and
And also a way to give people hope that you don't need to leave the island to pursue your dreams or to work for a better Puerto Rico.
Andrea Gonzalez-Remiris' piece in the cut that inspired us is called Letting Go of My Diaspora Grief at the Bad Bunny Residency.
You can read and support her work at nymag.com.
what exactly bad bunny's trying to do in Puerto Rico from a guy who helped him do it when we return on today explained.
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My name is Benito.
And I'm very excited to be here on...
Today, explained Sean Ramos firm here with Jorrell, Melendez Badillo,
author of Puerto Rico, a national history, and he's a bad bunny collaborator.
Last December, I was on vacation with my family in Portugal.
I had left my computer behind, and I was contacted via Instagram message from someone in Benito's team,
saying that they were working with Bad Bunny, and they were interested in knowing if I was interested in having a conversation about a potential collaboration.
with Benito. My heart dropped, as you can imagine. They sent an NDA and on this closure agreement.
But wait, you had to say no because you're on vacation with your family in Portugal, right?
Exactly. Yeah, no, but my family understood. They're all bad bunny fans. We also have an altar,
a shrine for bad bunny in our house. What? And so I had to say yes. Five minutes after we were on the phone
and they were telling me that Benito was going to drop a new record in a few weeks. They talked about the
sensibilities of the record, how it was an homage to Puerto Rican culture, how history was
going to be central to the album's narrative. And so they were interested in incorporating
Puerto Rican history into the visualizers. So visualizers are the ways that artists monetize
in YouTube. And so each one of the 17 songs in the record has a historical narrative that goes
all the ways from pre-Columbian history
to the current political and social moment in Puerto Rico.
Wow. Yes.
Tell us about this history.
Yeah, absolutely.
So Benito wanted for me to write about the general history of Puerto Rico,
but he was also very adamant that there were certain things
that he wanted to include.
Like, for example, the history of surveillance and repression in Puerto Rico
throughout the 20th century,
the history of colonial governance in Puerto Rico,
the history of La Plena and Bomba, which are two Afro-Caribbean rhythms and how it influenced reggaeton.
In addition to the visualizer videos, I also collaborated with Benito in the residency in Puerto Rico.
The team wanted me to write about 40 historical texts of Puerto Rican history and Puerto Rican culture itself.
So it was an opportunity for me to highlight certain things that don't usually get mentioned in Puerto Rican history.
punk bands.
Tito Trinidad, our boxer.
And the record for Felix Tito Trinidad, well known to most boxing followers.
Our basketball team and how they beat the U.S. Dream Team in Athens in 2004.
They were called the Dream Team, but now some people are calling them the Cream Team.
This is Orojo, Contrake.
Final of Contrake, Carlos Arroyo.
which Benito talks about in one of his songs.
So for me, it was also mind-blowing to see my work
not only in Benito's visualizers,
but also to be part of the residency in Puerto Rico,
which is a historic residency.
When this album came out,
I remember streaming it all weekend that first weekend
and feeling like,
wow, this is this incredible, comprehensive survey of, like, the history of Puerto Rican music.
You can just tell that from all the genres that are incorporated into the album, but I know
nothing, zero, about the history of Puerto Rican music.
How did it feel to someone like you who's, like, dedicated their life to this?
You know, I became an academic and a scholar, the first in my family, because I wanted to take
these knowledges out of the ivory tower of academia.
I wanted to democratize access to our history, to knowledge.
And so it was mind-blowing to, when the record came out, January 5th at noon, just to put the YouTube
visualizers and see Puerto Rican history accompanying these sounds.
The record is very political even in the soundscape that it creates.
mixing plena, salsa, all these sort of Caribbean rhythms, it was mind-blowing.
You know, Benito did not have to do this.
He could have kept talking about expensive cars, you know, his life in Monaco, flying in private jets.
Dating a Jenner.
Dating a Jenner, that was a, yeah, that was a tragic moment in his career.
A lot of, in Puerto Rico, you know, Benito's like that Primo, that cousin that made it.
And, you know, cousins sometimes do things that you do not agree with, but you still love him.
And he spent time in L.A.
But then he came back to Puerto Rico.
And I think he's also, there's something about being, you know, in diaspora, in exile,
about connecting with your roots and your identities.
And I think that this record is sort of an exploration into what it means for him to be Puerto Rican.
And here you have arguably the, or empirically, the biggest story.
star in the world, you know, move to the side, Taylor Swift or Quingby, Beyonce.
You have the biggest star in the world using his platform to amplify Puerto Rican history and
Puerto Rican culture.
I'm glad you brought up the world because after Bad Bunny finishes his stint in San Juan,
he's taking this show on the road.
And he is one of the most streamed artists in the world, like top five typically.
he's been number one before.
What do you think he wanted the world to learn about Puerto Rico by putting out this album?
So in a sense, I think that Bat Bunny wanted his listeners to understand the colonial reality of Puerto Rico.
You know, when we think about Puerto Rico, it's always joy, it's beaches, it's tropical paradise.
But there's other realities, right?
And Benito is, I think, using his platform to highlight the colonial dimension of Puerto Rico to the United States.
You know, Puerto Rico has been undergoing a fiscal and political crisis since 2006, and it has exacerbated throughout the last two decades, particularly after 2015, when the U.S. federal government in a bipartisan bill, it was a bill created by Republicans and signed by President Obama, created a fiscal oversight board of unelected members that have more power than the executive and legislative branches in Puerto Rico.
and it just came out a few days ago that President Trump fired five of the members of this board,
which, you know, triggers a conversation about the colonial relationship of Puerto Rico
that first we cannot elect the president of the United States.
And second, that we cannot elect the people in this highly unpopular fiscal oversight board.
And so in a sense, I think that Benito's record, you know, songs like La Mudanza or Lo Que de la Hauai,
are songs that are talking about the colonial reality that Puerto Ricans are living through.
But if we look also at La Moulanza, the music video, Benito's also highlighting the resistance to that colonial situation, right?
How Puerto Ricans have never stood to the side, Puerto Ricans have never been docile,
but Puerto Ricans have always there to imagine themselves as something beyond their colonial rulers.
And I think that that is very clear in the record, and it's part of the conversations that have been triggered by the residency, by the record, and also by the aesthetic project that these two bring together.
Do people in Puerto Rico look to Bad Bunny to actually affect change, or are they happy enough with what he's done, which is put them on the map in a way that they weren't on it before, or constantly bringing himself and his music and his message back to the island?
Absolutely. I think that everyone in Puerto Rico is in love with Bad Bunny at the moment. Even my grandmother, he used to say that he was malablao. He was always swearing. And she, you know, he was always swearing. And she.
dislike them. Now she sings his songs. And I think that people are happy, but I think that more importantly,
there is a generation that has been coined as the crisis generation, which Benito is part of.
You know, that generation that the only thing that they know is crisis, that those kids that were born
in the late 90s, early 2000s, you know, they went through the fiscal crisis that began in 2006,
austerity measures, the implementation of an undemocratic fiscal oversight board by the U.S. government in
2015, school closings, Hiro King Maria, we had an earthquake swarm. You know, we lose power
on an almost daily basis, corruption, et cetera. So the only thing that this generation knows is
crisis. And I think that that generation is becoming politicized even more and more. In the last
election cycle, it was the first time in Puerto Rico's modern history since the 40s and 50s that
the pro-independence party got to second place.
a party that was supported by Benito publicly.
And Benito was there at the closing event.
So people are happy.
People love Benito, but also I think that Benito represents a generation
that feels disenfranchised and that is becoming more politicized.
And so I think we needed an artist in the mainstream to amplify the conversations
that are happening around colonialism, displacement,
and crisis in Puerto Rico.
One last question before we go.
Both you and our previous guest, both Puerto Ricans,
refer to Bad Bunny, the artist known as Bad Buddy, as Berito.
Does everyone just call him Benito on the island?
Yeah, Benito.
I think it's a term of endearment.
Benito, you know, you dated a gender, we still love you.
When we go to that residency, or when we've been in the residence,
And see, we're not only celebrating Benito, but it feels as we're celebrating ourselves.
And so that's why we are so happy to see him succeed.
And so, yeah, I think it's a term of endearment, Benito.
Jarel Melendez Badillo is an associate professor of Latin American and Caribbean history
at the University of Wisconsin.
Madison. Abishai Artsy produced today's show. Amina Al-Assadi edited. Laura Bullard checked the
facts and Patrick Boyd was on the ones and twos. The rest of the family includes La Jaffa, Miranda Kennedy,
La Reina, Noel Ray, Jolie Myers, Peter Balanon Rosen, Gabriel Burbay, Miles Bryan, Jardy,
Adria, Andrea Kristen's daughter, Devin Schwartz, Denise Guerra, and Rebecca Ibarra. We didn't today,
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