Today, Explained - Operation Flex
Episode Date: December 14, 2021A bodybuilder posing as a Muslim convert was welcomed into a California mosque. When he showed signs of extremism, members reported him to the FBI, only to learn that he was their informant. Now, thei...r story is before the Supreme Court. Today’s show was produced by Haleema Shah, edited by Matt Collette, engineered by Cristian Ayala and Paul Mounsey, fact-checked by Laura Bullard and Will Reid and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Transcript at vox.com/todayexplained Support Today, Explained by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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We will hear argument first this morning in case 2828, the Federal Bureau of Investigation
versus FASAGA. Mr. Needler. Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the court.
The state secrets privilege is firmly grounded in the Constitution and the common law
and is critical to safeguarding the national security. The Supreme Court of the United States is trying to decide whether a case involving
Muslims who were spied on by the FBI can move forward.
At issue is whether the government can have the case dismissed without actually showing
any of its top secret evidence to a court.
Now, that might sound a little wonky, but trust me when I tell you that the case is
absolutely bananas.
It involves an FBI informant who was planted in a mosque to suss out terror plots and then tried to spin up a terror plot of his own.
Sam Black reported on it for This American Life.
The story starts in Irvine, California in the summer of 2006.
A very large and athletic man showed up to a mosque in Irvine, California in the summer of 2006, a very large and athletic man showed up
to a mosque in Irvine, California for the first time
and introduced himself as someone
who wanted to convert to Islam
and eventually stood in front of the congregation
at the mosque and converted.
And his interactions with that community
over the next several years
would have huge repercussions for the community, would end up in he himself being reported to the FBI as a terrorist, would end up in the arrest of one man, and ultimately leads us to the situation today where this case has made its way to the Supreme Court.
The man who showed up at the mosque is named Craig Monta.
So Craig Monta, he looks like a linebacker for a football team.
At the time, he spent all of his time at the gym.
I'm 6'2", 260 pounds.
It's not fat.
It's lean body mass.
I bench 500 pounds.
I have 21 and a half inch arms. Craig started off life as a petty
criminal. He used to rob drug dealers for a living, in his words. This led him into a situation
where he had a lot of conversations with law enforcement, and he ended up being recruited
as an informant by the FBI. Now, he says he participated in numerous sting operations
over the course of his career.
When I interviewed Craig in 2012,
he told me about all of these different aliases
he had for different operations.
Italian drug dealer Vincent Donato,
a Russian hitman by the name of Ivan Chernyanko,
Colombian drug dealer Pedro Hernandez,
a Bulgarian drug dealer by the name of Sergei Gerd.
Also, I went by Polish names.
One was Lek Vlesky.
In my reporting on this story,
we couldn't depend entirely on Craig's versions
of events because Craig is not always the most reliable narrator of his own story.
So everything I reported in that story was checked against court documents and the FBI's
own statements.
And what's clear is that we know for a fact that the FBI created a mission for Craig,
which it called Operation Flex. I was to lure
Muslim males into the gym using my physique to see what actually is the real pulse
of the Muslim community. They told me what I did was vital to America's national security and to do exactly
what they said. Craig created a backstory for himself because he needed the story as to why
he was all of a sudden showing up to this mosque in Irvine, California,
and announcing he wanted to convert to Islam.
So his backstory was that he had Syrian ancestry, that he was rediscovering that ancestry,
and that is why he had chosen to convert.
And then upon converting, he needed a name, an Islamic name.
And so Craig took the name Farouk al-Aziz.
And so many of the people who Craig met over these years called him Farouk, and they knew him as Farouk.
How does his entry into this new world go initially?
Do people take to him? Do they buy his identity?
People were extremely welcoming to Craig. I spoke with people who really first reached out to him were a group of young men in their late 20s and
early 30s, mostly Egyptian immigrants who were basically living in a bachelor pad. After Friday prayers, we'd hang out, have barbecues, play video games.
I was engaged at the time, but I used to play more Xbox than spending time with my fiancée.
It's like 80% Xbox and everything else comes second.
FIFA soccer. That's the thing. We played a lot of FIFA. We still play a lot of FIFA. They one by one approached Farouk, aka Craig, and incorporate him into their community.
Well, first of all, they make some Egyptian food, which is very good, delicious food.
And we sit on the couch for about maybe a couple of hours, just have conversation.
And they would play their Xbox while we're having conversation
in a very competitive way.
Eventually, Craig starts to talk to these men
about jihad and about politics
and about what they think of the American role
in the Middle East.
And for these men, that's very strange
because this, again, a guy who they thought was their gym buddy.
I'd say let's meet tomorrow afternoon at the gym.
We'll work out together.
I'll teach you some things on how to get your forearms shaped a little better,
your biceps stronger, bigger.
And at these workouts, I would ask very sensitive questions regarding Islam.
For example...
So what do you think about Osama bin Laden?
So Craig starts doing absurd things.
I'm like, dude, you know, okay, you know, Osama bin Laden is a bad guy.
He's a mother******, you know what I mean?
All that we are suffering from right now
is because of Osama bin Laden.
Your question right now is because of Osama bin Laden.
You know what I mean?
All of these new laws that they start acting about,
just searching, you know, and sticking their finger in your ***
is because of Osama bin Laden.
So you tell him, hey, you know, Osama bin Laden is a bad guy.
Was Craig wearing a mic when he was at the mosque?
Was he wired?
Yes, so it's very important to understand that the whole time Craig was at the mosque,
at the houses of these different men he surveilled, in their cars. He was recording. He had a mic. He sometimes would make video recordings. He would attend their soccer games and take
pictures of people's license plates, take sometimes videos to show who was talking to whom. He would do things like take objects from people's homes
that he thought would have their DNA on them.
Like one of the men, Egyptian men, was a smoker
and he would grab a cigarette butt
and bring it back and give it to the FBI.
Again, with no, according to him,
no specific instructions of individuals to focus on,
at least initially. He assembled hundreds of hours of recordings, which he would then pass on to the
FBI. So where does this lead?
I mean, how does Operation Flex continue?
The absurdity of Craig's mission and his approach to all of this
becomes very, very serious all of a sudden one day.
So Craig ended up becoming friends with a few married men who
were a little more serious about their religion. One of them named Muhammad El-Sisi and another
named Amin Niazi. He would record his interactions with them when he escalates his tactics. These are
two men who he's driving to a mosque up in LA with. It's about a 45-minute drive, let's say.
Niazi was sitting in the backseat, and Farouk was sitting in the passenger, and I was driving.
And over the course of that drive, he starts talking to them about the political situation
in the Middle East, how as a Muslim, he feels his and their people are under attack by the
US government, and that they need to do something about it.
Little by little, starts amping up his rhetoric, and eventually...
I say we should carry out a terrorist attack in this country.
Because I'm tired of just staying around doing nothing.
I've got access to weapons.
I know how to do things.
We should bomb something.
Silence was out there in the car.
I didn't say a word until we arrived to the mosque.
I refused to talk at all.
The first thing that came into my mind
that I thought that he's a straight shot terrorist.
And at that point, you know, I felt kind of scared from him. He scared me. This is the FBI's informant who was sent in to
infiltrate a mosque proposing a terrorist plot. Yes. We now know that this kind of thing is not that rare in many cases the fbi has had a vast
network of informants in the muslim community as part of its domestic war on terror in dozens of
cases there were informants who proposed terrorist plots to the men that they were surveilling what
happens with craig is very unique because he has completely misjudged the people
he's targeting and as soon as he brings up that plot muhammad and and ahmed are horrified they
don't say another word for the rest of the car ride and as soon as they get back home they talk to each other
and they're like well there's only one thing to do we have to report this guy to the fbi he's clearly
a terrorist the way this actually goes down is that they go to a man named Husam Alush, who's the head of the Council on American
Islamic Relations, CARE, in Southern California. And Husam is the person who actually contacts the
FBI bureau chief in Southern California, a man named Stephen Tidwell. And what's so odd about
that conversation, according to Husam, is that when he calls the FBI to tell them about this
potential threat in their community, the reaction of the FBI is very strange. As soon as he says,
this is a white convert who had come into our community, the response is,
oh, that's what he said. Oh, okay. Thank you, Hossam. That's great information.
And we'll let you know what happens. He said, wait, wait, wait, don't you need his name?
Because I had his name and I have his address because they knew where he lived. He said, well,
you know, don't worry about it. You know, we work closely with Irvine PD and we'll take care of it
from here. Don't worry about it.
What's going on there?
Does the FBI know exactly who he's talking about?
Yes, they may have known as soon as,
immediately as that phone call,
the person who was being reported as a terrorist
was their informant, Craig Monta.
So what happens next?
I mean, Craig proposes a terrorist attack.
His erstwhile friends report him to the FBI. What do they do? So this is where the FBI backed off, admit sort of their mission had gone totally awry.
But instead, they used the opportunity to further question people in this community.
Amin Niazi was one of the men who was in the car with Craig when Craig proposed
the terror plot. Niazi was one of the men who reported Craig to the FBI as a terrorist.
And Niazi was one of the men who the FBI then went around and interviewed in the wake of that report
and asked him many questions, many of those questions unrelated to Craig. And why was the FBI so interested in this one guy, Ahmed Niasi?
Ahmed Niasi is an immigrant from Afghanistan. At a certain point, Craig's FBI handlers became
focused on Niasi as a potential target. And it seems that the reason for this is because
one of Niasi's sisters was married to a man who had been a bodyguard for Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan.
And Niazi himself had lived in the U.S. for many years,
had no direct ties to any militant group or any evidence that he himself was violent or criminal in any way.
But because of this tangential relationship, the FBI asked Craig to focus on
Niazi. And ultimately, when the FBI went around asking questions about Craig, they used that as
an opportunity to get Niazi on the record, talking about his immigration history, talking about his
family, and more generally, just talking about his life.
And not long after that interview, he was approached by an FBI agent who told Niazi
that he had lied to them in his interview. They accused him of a few things. One, not disclosing two trips he had taken to Pakistan.
Two, not disclosing that his sister had been married to someone who was affiliated with Osama bin Laden.
Lastly, he was charged with using inconsistent versions of his full name.
So what seems clear in retrospect is that the FBI was trying to use small infractions
that Niazi may have committed, like immigration violations, to tell him, we can ruin your life
over this, but if you cooperate with us, we won't. And what cooperation means is that we're going to
turn you into a more effective version of Craig Montaigne. We're going to turn you into someone
who actually can help us surveil this
community. Does that work? Does Niazi become an informant? Niazi declined to talk to me for this
story because his life had really been completely disrupted by this experience. He did release a statement to me
where he talked about how the FBI had ruined his life. But what happens is that Amin Yazzie
refuses to go along with it. He says, I'm the one who reported the terrorist to you. What are you
talking about? I don't need to work for the FBI and surveil my friends and family in this community. And a year later or less,
his home is raided. They take his computers, they take many documents, and they ultimately
arrest him and charge him with a series of minor immigration violations. The government
ends up dropping all of the charges. And it's not clear why, but they must have realized they didn't actually have much of
a case.
So what do they do to Craig?
Craig?
Or should I say, what do they do with Craig?
Craig effectively has to lay low during this time because he's been outed.
He's useless to them.
At the same time that Craig was surveilling this community and being employed, being paid a lot of money by the FBI, he was also engaged in kind of a scheme to sell human growth hormone to some women who he had also met at the gym. He ends up being prosecuted for this.
And without going into the whole story,
basically, Craig says this was another FBI sting operation
he had been asked to do.
And when he became useless to the FBI
because he got reported by these men,
that they threw him under the bus
and they effectively arrested him
for something he was being asked to do as an informant.
Craig, in many ways, ends up on the sidelines
of the heart of this story as soon as he becomes useless to the FBI.
Does Craig face any consequences for spying on this community, for
engineering a fake terrorist plot? Craig himself never faces consequences for his
behavior in the Muslim community. Craig has since apologized to many of the men who he surveilled.
I definitely appreciate the fact that he called, right, and that he apologized for it.
But the damage is done.
I, you know, I don't know what to do.
I really don't.
I now have a fear that I'm being monitored all the time.
I don't know how you can change that.
Neither Craig nor the FBI has been held accountable for Operation Flex and its many failures.
Muslims in Southern California are trying to hold the FBI accountable
with the help of the ACLU and, plot twist, Craig Monta himself.
That's in a minute on Today Explained.
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Oh yay! Oh yay! Oh yay! All right, we're back.
As you heard, Operation Flex started in 2006 and ended about 18 months later. But as Operation Flex started winding down, two things went very, very wrong.
The first was a big problem for the FBI. Craig is on orders from the FBI,
kind of speaking to Muslims in Southern California,
you know, talking to them about more extremist ideas
and even getting involved in violence or terrorist plots.
And that became so concerning to one mosque
that they reported him to the FBI
as a possible security threat
and also filed a restraining order.
The second was a problem for Craig.
Craig got involved in a plot
where he told two women
that if they fronted him money,
he would be able to purchase human growth hormone,
resell it, and then they would profit
and he would provide the money back.
And of course, Craig took the money
and then never provided it back.
And the local police arrested never provided it back.
And the local police arrested him for this scam. Craig alleges that the FBI told him to plead guilty and they'll take care of it. And so he did that. And the FBI didn't take care of it. They let
him go to jail and he spent time in prison and he gets out. And at that point, his relationship with
the FBI doesn't exist. And so Craig at at that point, has a score to settle.
And he decides to go public.
Trevor Aronson has been covering the fallout from Operation Flex for The Intercept.
And so he calls journalists in Southern California, invites them to his home in Orange County,
and holds this makeshift press conference in his living room where he basically says,
I think it's very important that I come out as an informant working for the FBI
Joint Terrorism Task Force.
And the FBI is spying on Muslims simply because they are Muslims.
When Craig went public with what had happened in Operation Flex,
you know, this was the beginning of the time that journalists like me were trying to understand what the FBI was doing in investigating terrorism in the first decade after 9-11.
No one denies that the bulky, bald Monte was an FBI informant. However, the FBI does deny that its informants target Muslim mosques, as Montaig alleges.
In the beginnings of my research, I flew to Southern California and met with him.
And what's interesting about Craig, and I've gotten to know Craig now for over 10 years,
we've been in regular touch since I first met him,
I can say that just about everything Craig said was true,
and just about everything Craig said benefited Craig.
Craig Montaig went to court to get ammunition in a $10 million lawsuit against the FBI.
And of course, among the people who see this press conference and read the news reports
are lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union.
What our lawsuit alleges is that that kind of targeting of surveillance on the basis of religion
violates the U.S. Constitution's
protections for religious freedom.
And they come up with this idea to say, hey, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Why don't we call up Craig Montae and see if he'll work with us?
And Craig agreed.
Craig submitted as part of the ACLU's litigation a sworn affidavit where he lays out exactly
what he did and makes clear that his activity for the
FBI was based on targeting people solely for the fact that they were practicing their religion,
solely for the fact that they were Muslim.
So a guy who voluntarily becomes an FBI informant and then infiltrates a mosque in Southern California and actually
proposes some terror plots to genuine Muslims, ends up suing the FBI for infiltrating a mosque
in Southern California. Essentially. I mean, Craig isn't the one suing. He's basically a witness for
the lawsuit. And so the lawsuit involves three plaintiffs, three named plaintiffs who were, you know,
people that Craig specifically spied on.
One, a man named Yasser Fazega,
who was the imam at the time
of one of the larger mosques in Orange County.
President Obama gave a speech this morning.
And in the speech, he was going to be addressing the NSA.
You know, they've been going around spying on people. And by people here, he was going to be addressing the NSA, you know, the being going around spying on people.
And by people here, I mean Muslim people.
And those three plaintiffs represent essentially the class of Muslims in Southern California who Craig spied on, which, you know, is a number doing is essentially acting as the witness, you know, the one who's
saying, I did this for the government and here's what I did and here's why it's essentially
illegal.
And what's interesting as well is that the government has acknowledged that Craig Monta
did this.
They've acknowledged that he was the informant.
And so it's not a question of whether Craig Monta really was working for the FBI.
It's a question of whether Craig Monta infilt was working for the FBI. It's a question of whether Craig Monta
infiltrating Southern California Muslim communities
was a violation of the civil rights
of these various Muslims he met.
Okay, so how does this lawsuit go?
They go to court and the government basically says,
okay, okay, you know, this happened.
Craig Monta was an FBI informant and he spied on
these people. But it's not true that the reason he spied on them was because they're Muslim.
We have other reasons to spy on these people. These were predicated investigation, which means
that they had reason to believe that they were committing some sort of crime. But, you know, what the government says is, Judge, ACLU, we're going to tell you that
this was, you know, on the up and up, but we had predicated investigations.
But we can't show you why, because this is all in documents that are under state secrets
privilege, that if we show them to you, we're exposing the government to all sorts of national
security threats, and we just can't do that. So take our word for it. This is all legal. We didn't spy on people
because they're Muslim. You know, let's drop this case. And so the judge who initially hears the
case agreed to that and said, OK, I trust the government. The government says they didn't do
anything wrong. I'm going to drop this case. But that's not the end of it. That's when the ACLU
then appeals the case
and the appellate court comes back and says, no, no, no, you can't just say this didn't happen
without providing evidence and just expect us to drop the case. And what the appellate court
suggested, and this is a process that has taken years, a decade in all, what the appellate court
recommended was that under the FISA law, which is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which allows prosecutors to provide in camera privately to a judge evidence that is relevant to cases, but if released, would present some sort of national security concern.
This FISA procedure allows the government to go to the judge and say, here's the evidence.
Only you can view it,
and you can make a ruling based on what you're viewing here. And, you know, this has happened
in cases, you know, throughout the country. And what the appellate court said was, why don't you
guys just do that? You know, if you have this document that shows that the activity of Craig
Montaigne and the FBI was not illegal, then show it to a judge. You don't have to show it to the
ACLU. Show it to a
judge and let the judge decide whether this case can move forward or not. And really, that's the
issue that's before the Supreme Court now. We will hear argument first this morning in case 2828,
the Federal Bureau of Investigation versus Fasaga. You know, the Supreme Court isn't going to rule
on whether the FBI and Craig Monta violated the civil rights
of Muslims throughout Southern California. All they're going to rule on is whether the government
is allowed to assert state secrets privilege and just have this case go away, or if there's another
protocol that needs to happen in order for a judge, for example, to review the evidence and decide at
that point whether the case can go forward or not. So the Supreme Court held oral arguments in November. How was this question of
whether the FBI can invoke the state secrets privilege received? My sense of the oral
arguments was that the Supreme Court was highly skeptical of the government's position that,
yeah, we didn't do this, but we can't show you why. In a world in which the national security state is growing
larger every day, that's quite a power. At the same time, they weren't entirely comfortable with
the appellate court's solution. This kind of information, depending on what it is,
is not the kind of information you want floating around, even in the White House,
to people, much less floating around the country.
And I'm wondering if they're going to try to come up with a kind of middle road that
requires the government to somehow pass some sort of hurdle to show that the documents it says it
has really do show it is not negligent and did not violate these people's civil rights,
but at the same time doesn't go as far as what the appellate court had suggested.
And if the Supreme Court goes further and rules against the government here?
If the Supreme Court rules against the government, there's really two possibilities.
The government could choose to go with whatever solution the Supreme Court comes up with to show
this evidence that it apparently has. However, if the government isn't comfortable with that, it can still say, no, no, no, we're
not going to show you these documents, but we're just going to go for it with the litigation
anyway and defend ourselves based on whatever evidence we have aside from these documents.
And that's really what the ACLU is saying as well.
They're saying, if you want to use these documents, you have to show them.
If you don't want to use these documents, that's fine too. Argue on whatever your other evidence is.
And if the Supreme Court does rule against the government and this case is actually litigated,
what would that mean for all these people who were surveilled?
In the post-9-11 era, the FBI recruited more than 15,000 informants, an unprecedented number in its history.
And many, if not most of those informants were assigned to Muslim communities to find would-be terrorists, to go into mosques and other areas where Muslims congregated.
And the basis is largely believed that there was no criminal predicate, that the FBI was targeting these people simply because they are Muslim.
If this case moves forward, the reason it is so significant is that it really would be a challenge to the legality,
not only of what happened in Southern California, but what we've seen in the entire post-9-11 era and which continues today. That isn't necessarily going to stop as a result of this litigation,
but I think it's going to allow us to kind of peel back the curtain
and provide some level of accountability
to say to the government that, you know,
you can't just target people
based on their religious faith
or their religious observances
and do it without any sort of accountability.
Trevor Aronson is a reporter at The Intercept and the author of The Terror Factory, Inside the FBI's Manufactured War on Terrorism.
Earlier in the show you heard from documentarian Sam Black.
He reported on Operation Flex for This American Life back in 2012.
Thanks to This American Life for letting us use tape from their original story. It's called The Convert. You can
find it at thisamericanlife.org. We reached out to Craig Montae for comment on our story
today. Craig says, there's a quote, misconception that the Muslim community notified the FBI
out of a patriotic duty while I was undercover during Operation Flex."
Instead, Craig said, a member of Irvine's local police department had learned he was an informant identity to the Muslim community. As Craig sees it, Muslims in Irvine did not report him because
they thought he was a terrorist, but because an officer told the community he was an informant.
We also reached out to the FBI for comment, but they said they usually don't talk about
pending litigation.
We can expect a decision from the Supreme Court in FBI vs. Fasega sometime in the new
year.
Our episode today was produced by Halima Shah, edited by Matthew Collette, fact checked by
Laura Bullard and Will Reed, and engineered by Christian Ayala and Paul Mounsey.
I'm Sean Ramos-Verm. This is Today Explained.