Today, Explained - Smart glasses are officially here

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

There's a race to get smart glasses on your face. But privacy and security concerns are freaking people out. This episode was produced by Avishay Artsy, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Gabriel... Dunatov, engineered by David Tatasciore and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Victoria Song, senior reviewer for The Verge, models several pairs of smart glasses. Photo by Amelia Holowaty Krales / The Verge. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. New Vox members get $20 off their membership right now. Transcript at ⁠vox.com/today-explained-podcast.⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Remember Snapchat? The app best known for being the place to send disappearing photos and videos to your friends? Well, Snapchat was back in the news recently, but this time it was not about disappearing photos and videos. It was about smart glasses that you put and keep on your face. Snapchat was trying to get in on the game with a pair of black, horn-rimmed-looking spectacles. Think the pair that the old man in Up wears, but like three times thicker, and with a price tag of $2,195. Photos of Snap CEO Evan Spiegel wearing his specs,
Starting point is 00:00:37 that's what they're called, by the way, specs, were all over the internet and not in a good way. People were laughing. And they laughed all the way over to the stock market where Snap took a hit. But as you're going to hear on today explain from Box, Snap's playing the long game with smart glasses, and the rest of big tech is too.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Smart glasses are officially here, so we're going to talk about them and worry about our privacy on the. show today. Support for today explained comes from BetterHelp. BetterHelp wants you to enjoy the summer, not just slip into survival mode with those kids at home and those vacation plans coming at you fast and that routine stressing you out. Then summer is over and you're wishing you enjoyed the sunny days a little more. Wow, BetterHelp therapy can help you slow down and be present for the moments that matter with BetterHelp. You can connect with the last.
Starting point is 00:01:27 licensed therapist from anywhere on your schedule. Don't just survive this summer. Thrive this summer. Visit betterhelp.com slash explained. The first ever all-electric 2026 Subaru Trail Seeker is the EV for the trail obsessed. With up to 444 kilometers
Starting point is 00:01:43 on a full charge and DC fast charging from 10 to 80% in about 30 minutes in ideal conditions. Plus, ample ground clearance and symmetrical all-wheel drive make the 2026 trail seeker the most capable EV Subaru has ever built.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Test drive it at your local Subaru dealer or visit Subaru.ca. You're listening to Today explained. Sean Ramos firm here with Victoria's song. She's a senior reviewer for The Verge. She's been writing a lot about why smart glasses are back,
Starting point is 00:02:20 even though Google Glass flopped over a decade ago. Wow, that was over a decade ago. Google Glass, I would say one of the big reasons it failed was the design. If you've ever watched Dragon Ball Z, it looks like a power scouter that they would wear. Vegeta, what does a scouter say about its power level? It's over 9,000! Something super futuristic, easy to pick people out on a street for, and what Meta did was they partnered with Essela or Luxatica,
Starting point is 00:02:51 which owns brands like Rayban, Oakley, very popular, very stylish, and they made these glasses. Look like an average pair of glasses, something that people wouldn't feel too weird wearing. I'm wearing a pair right now of the... I was going to ask because you were wearing, Victoria. I mean, I don't know you personally, but I am looking at you. And your glasses look very thick. They do. Is that because they're smart glasses?
Starting point is 00:03:17 Partly, partly it's because they are smart glasses. So smart glasses have to actually house a lot of tech components. Inside of them, these have a camera and the hint. and also a privacy LED light in the hinge. If I take them off, like you're going to see that there are speakers and there are, you know, battery components in the actual arms themselves. They're quite thick. But, you know, it also is the style for a lot of, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:43 chunky glasses have been stylish for a while. If you think about the Brooklyn hipster aesthetic, you know, it's not anything too out of the ordinary there. Like, I actually have several smart glasses on my desk. Oh, my gosh. You're holding like six cases for spectacles, it looks like? Yeah, yeah, I am. Thank you for bringing props to this interview.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I'm bringing props to this interview. But, you know, I have another pair here. They're called the Even Reality's G2, and they're a lot thinner. Yeah, those I might not even notice. So I'm wearing these glasses, but these don't have a camera, which means they can be much slimmer in terms of how they look. But there are speakers that you can hear things off of. So, you know, these devices have. different feature sets. Like if you want to see a pair that's even thicker than the ones I have on now.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Yes. These are also by meta. These are called the meta rayband display and there is like an invisible display in the lens here. So they come in a lot of different styles. I call it the spaghetti era of smart glasses because they're just really throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. But none of these tech giants has really figured out what the absolute killer use case is. so far. I want to talk about what's going on right now, but while we're on this train and talking about your specific experience, can you just tell us what you use these ray bands that you're wearing right now that are smart glasses for in your day to day? Because it sounds like you actually wear them. Yeah, I got to test this technology. And I would say probably the thing I use the most for is listening to TikTok audio privately.
Starting point is 00:05:22 So like around your house, not like on a subway or something. Around my house, there's headphones basically built into the temple. So, you know, it's not obscuring your ear. So you can take calls from your glasses. You can just use them as a pair of, like, open ear headphones. There are also cameras built into this particular pair of glasses. So if you're a content creator, you could get first-person footage very easily. There are a pair of, like, Oakley's, which are really wild-looking.
Starting point is 00:05:53 You know, they look like Oakley's, the kind of the gibron. glasses that you see. And they're great for, you know, if you're a cyclist and you want to get footage of your run, like, or your bike ride, that's, that's primarily what a lot of people use that for. If I'm, I don't really take footage in public because it's a little bit awkward. I don't like doing that. But in my own house, do I act as a film paparazzi for my cats? Absolutely. I do. Some people say that that's what they do with their, um, children and on vacations. And then in particular, you know, I've done interviews with a lot of low vision and blind people
Starting point is 00:06:37 who say that this technology has really changed their lives because there is a be my eyes integration. And what that is is it connects what the blind person or the low vision person is seeing with a sighted volunteer through a phone call. Hey, meta. Call be my eyes. So you have POV footage that they can see, or they can use this feature called Live AI,
Starting point is 00:07:02 where the AI will describe like a menu for them. And so then they can independently read a menu which may not have Braille. I have some mail here, and I'm wondering if you could just help me sort through junk mail and real mail. Sure, I can help you with that. Hi, I'm calling it because I need help. I need some items in my pantry. Okay, about you.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Certain versions of the display glasses can put live captions, over people when they're talking. So for people who are hard of hearing, they may be able to have a better sense of what people are saying with them. You can also get live translations with these devices. They are very finicky in certain respects. But, you know, those are just some examples of how people are using the technology currently. I'm glad you brought up AI because I think when we talk about tech on this show,
Starting point is 00:07:51 most frequently lately we are talking about AI. we're talking about software, but here we are, once again, talking about hardware, which almost feels like Pass A at this point, because so much of our nation's focus has turned to artificial intelligence. But you're saying that all these big companies that are developing AI are betting big on these glasses. Is there a boatload of money to be made on smart glasses? You know, I think the very cynical take of it is that, yes, they're going to put a bunch of
Starting point is 00:08:22 cameras on everyone's faces, just like how they put a bunch of cameras on everyone's smartphones, and they're going to get a bunch of data that way that they'll then use in their ad businesses. I think that's totally valid to be suspicious of the companies for wanting to do that. So you're just going to see ads, like half an inch away from your eyeball all the time? I think that's the dystopia that people are worried about or the dream in terms of ad dollars from big tech. Let's just put it this way. They're looking for a killer use case for these glasses. Just how, like, fitness and health tracking alerts were kind of a killer use case for smart watches, because in the beginning of smart watches, everyone was like, well, why do I need that? I have my phone. The meta executive team, like we're talking Andrew Bosworth, who is their CTO, and Mark Zuckerberg even, they have been, like, very vocal about how they view AI to be the killer use case for these glasses.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Now, glasses are the ideal form factor for personal superintelligence, because they let you stay present in the moment while getting access to all of these AI capabilities that make you smarter, help you communicate better, improve your memory, improve your senses, and more. Because you can take the assistant with you in the ear, and it can see what you see. they call this multimodal AI, meaning the glasses, camera, can look at the world around you, and then you can interact with an AI about what you're actually seeing in real time. And the examples they give are like, oh, let's say you go to a museum and you want to learn a little bit more about the painting in front of you. Hey, Meta, what is this artwork? Comedian by Maricio Catalan worth $6.2 million.
Starting point is 00:10:03 What? These matter glasses, the only thing I say, hey, Mehta, explain the history of the fossils in front of me. And the meta glasses will explain to you the history of the... You could theoretically ask the AI, oh, what's next on my calendar? And see a little calendar notification pop up in your eye. And so the idea is you don't have to take out your phone. You can just ask the AI and have it show up in your glasses. And, you know, it's a nice thought.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So I think our call will be coming in any moment now. Boss, what's up video call? There we go. Uh-oh. Let's see what happens. That's too bad. I don't know what happened. Hey, meta, translate this sign. Translation from Spanish to English.
Starting point is 00:10:53 No, it's not in Spanish meta. Hey, meta, translate this sign. The tech is not fully there yet, but that's the future that they're trying to sell to everybody. And they believe, as far as hardware goes, that glasses is the ideal form factor for getting everyone kind of more on board with these AI assistants in their everyday life. So as someone who uses them, what do you think they still need to figure out? A lot. They actually, there is a lot, you know, the privacy question is the big one. But outside of privacy, there's a lot of questions that they still need to answer just like, how are you going to get people with 2020 vision to willingly put on a pretty heavy pair of glasses?
Starting point is 00:11:36 Like when I wear them for a long period of time, I'm talking four, five hours stretches, I tend to get headaches a lot of the time. just because they are so heavy on my face. And then you have to think about things like battery life. I mentioned the live AI feature that will kill these. If you have these fully charged, 100% charged, live AI, that feature will kill it in 30 minutes. So you're talking about helping people who are like visually impaired, but it's going to help them for about 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:12:05 About 30 minutes. Some of the blind and low vision people that I've spoken to, they carry two pairs around. So when they really need it, they just are constantly switching. between two pairs because the battery life is not ideal for that use case, it's not easy to get the battery replaced or repaired. So, you know, for anyone who's really worried about the privacy stuff, I'm not saying don't be worried about it. I am saying that there are very technical limitations for these as surveillance devices. Most importantly, like the battery is, if you really
Starting point is 00:12:37 want to do some really nasty stuff, the battery is not going to last very long on these. It's not comforting because you can still take surreptitious photos or whatnot, but it is kind of one of those things where, at least right now, the technology is still quite limited in what it can do long term. We're going to talk about the nasty stuff you could do with these glasses in the second half of the show. But before we do that, it sounds like there's still a lot to be figured out. But as someone who's using them right now, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:13:07 Are we going to see way more people wearing these in what? One year, two, five, ten? So we've seen a lot of people adopt these in the last three years, but it's still a niche product. It's still very early adopter phase. We're still having these conversations about how much of this tech we want on our faces and what features are actually useful for people. So I think you're looking at five to 10 years realistically.
Starting point is 00:13:37 So what you have is big tech companies laying down the groundwork and kind of priming you to think about, oh, the next iteration of gadget that I want on me at all times is a pair of glasses. Whether or not people glom onto that idea, I'm quite a skeptic. I've been covering the space for over a decade now. It's been inch and along. In my day-to-day life, they are a pair of glorified headphones. There's a lot of thinking and tinkering and basically public conversations that we need to have about this technology before I could ever really. realistically say that this is going to be a thing that everyone is going to have on their face.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Support for Day Explained comes from ShipStation. AI is only as effective as the information behind it. The real breakthroughs, the ones that actually make your life easier happen when it's built. Specifically for your needs, ShipStation's AI, isn't a one-size-fits-all tool. it's specialized, trained on decades of shipping expertise, and powered by billions of real orders. Shipstation is an end-to-end fulfillment platform for e-commerce. Shipstation adapts to your unique business, letting you know when stock is low, recommending the best carrier selections and rates and automating tasks to save you time.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Also, you can stay one step ahead. Their features eliminate the need for multiple tools in your workflow, like inventory syncing across your sales channels, a branded returns portal that helps turn returns into revenue, automatic rate shopping plus integrations with accounting and CRM software. You can see why over one million businesses have trusted Shipstation to optimize and scale their shipping. The sooner you switch, the sooner you start saving time and money, get started with ShipStation Today and get 60 days free at Shipstation.com with Code Today. That's shipstation.com code today. That's shipstation.com code today. Taxes and fees apply.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Support for today explained comes from select quote. It's easy to fall down. the rabbit hole on the internet, over researching restaurant reviews, vacuum cleaners, or hotels. But when it comes to term life insurance, sometimes we just go with the first quote we find and call it a day, not with select quote, they do the homework for you. With select quote, getting life insurance is fast, free, and easy, the whole process takes about 15 minutes, answer a few questions, their agents shop the carriers for you, and you get your quote tailored to your specific situation, even if you've got high blood pressure or diabetes. For over 40 years, select quote has helped more than 2 million Americans to cure more than 700 billion in coverage.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Their goal is simple. Help you find a term life insurance policy that fits your needs and budget. They do the shopping for you so you could save time and money. They even have 11,000 reviews on trust pilot rated excellent. You can get your free quote at selectquote.com.com slash explain. That's selectquote.com slash explain. That's selectquote.com slash explain. They shop, you save.
Starting point is 00:17:00 My name's Callie Hayes. I'm a senior tech reporter at the BBC covering mostly big tech and big AI in North America. Okay, Callie, we were just talking to Victoria over from The Verge. And we were talking about smart glasses in a sort of expository fashion. But she did at one point mention that there's a lot of nasty stuff one could do with this technology. And we wanted to save the question of what is said nasty stuff for you. So what are we? talking about? Yeah, there are various things that would fall in the nasty category.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Just unconsensual recording men approaching women and sort of taunting them, trying to get pickup lines on them and seeing their reactions. Hey, can I ask you something? What? Just, I need your number. I have a question. I thought you were, like, it looked like a model. What's your name?
Starting point is 00:17:57 Riley. Riley? Riley. Riley, Riley. Let me get your Instagram before she takes you. your way. But also, you know, videos that have to do with nudity, sex, bathroom stuff. It kind of runs the gamut of, ew. But the way it's kind of growing in popularity, I think could be a cause of bigger concern for people. We're talking about 10 million of meta's glasses alone sold.
Starting point is 00:18:24 So it's sort of at this tipping point of becoming much more popular, being seen much more often in society. And what these glasses effectively are is, you know, a camera on your face. It's much less obtrusive, much less obvious to people that they're being recorded when somebody just has glasses on. And I think Victoria mentioned that these Rayban, Wayfair, meta, smart glasses have like an LED light that tells you you're being recorded. Does that not protect women or anyone else who may not want to be recorded? You know, in a perfect world, yes. It's just the onus is on the person being recorded to know that a little light up in the corner of a pair of otherwise normal-looking frames mean that you are being recorded right now. But then there's also, I mean, if you were to like a Google meta plus LED light right now, a lot of the results that you would see would be how to disable the light and the camera still works.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Here is a step-by-step tutorial on how to remove the LED from your meta glasses. We're going to basically drill into that LED. I have a perfectly good drill brand new. I bought $3 drill bits. So it's just, again, the onus is completely on the person ostensibly being recorded to know and stop it. Are there other reasons to be creeped out by smart glasses than maybe being unwittingly recorded? There are meta-specific. They're working on putting what's essentially facial recognition technology inside their glasses.
Starting point is 00:19:57 So it wouldn't just be about being recorded. It would be about being identified also. It's not like a huge leap to think about who maybe would be interested in technology like that. Who would be interested in buying glasses with technology that could very quickly and easily identify people on the street. That is not here yet. That has been, you know, reported by Wired in the New York Times and others as being tested by META. If they work, the glasses would have the same technology used by the government and the police, the police to record everything and identify everyone, everyone sees.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Groups like the ACLU say the technology would empower stalkers, sexual predators, and scammers, allowing them to identify people without consent. So you would have your glasses on, you would clock someone, you would ask Meta AI, hey, meta, who is this person? And they would pull up their various profiles. When you have technology like that, that's that functional with tying somebody you're seeing in real life to whatever photos they have online, that kind of technology can be used in a lot of different ways. Who's out here advocating for our privacy at the moment? There are a few
Starting point is 00:21:07 laws that have been passed. Illinois could soon ban drivers from using those AI smart glasses behind the wheel. Today, a ban on smart glasses inside Philadelphia courthouses goes into effect. The new rule also excludes smart glasses with prescriptions. But other laws, you know, like GDPR, for instance, in the EU, it's pretty strong about this because it's. that requires explicit consent already to be recorded like this. Like in South Korea, too, for instance, they have a loud shutter law for photos for, like, your phone. So it makes a noise when you're taking photos that, like, is audible.
Starting point is 00:21:43 People really don't like it for the most part, but it works. People know, and they did that because they had... It stops creeps. Exactly. They did it. They enacted it like 20 years ago because they were having such a huge problem with upskirting. People were just taking their phones on the escalator and like, and nobody knew.
Starting point is 00:22:01 So they ended up doing the loud shutter law. But South Korea, for instance, has much better, broader privacy laws than the U.S. does. China just put out a voluntary moratorium on some kinds of technological capabilities, but it is entirely voluntary. Why is it that the United States doesn't care to offer the same protections to its people than say, I don't know, Europe, South Korea, maybe in this case, even China? Is it just because we're so bullish on tech
Starting point is 00:22:35 that we don't want to put up any guardrails, especially, and even if it means that some creeper could be creeping on your mom, on your wife, on your child? I think there is definitely a big contingent of people in positions of power right now that would argue that every concern that you just laid out is just kind of cost of doing business. Ugh.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Like, sorry, sorry your face got put on Instagram as kind of like a pickup line tutorial and you don't like it. Like, oops. Because it's just like this perfect virtuous cycle for these social media companies in particular that have for a very long time wanted something like an LOS, like an amazing form factor for them that you buy, you wear, you record, you post. and then it just keeps pumping. So they have no interest in supporting, I don't think. New laws.
Starting point is 00:23:35 But it's not just them either. I mean, a lot of politicians just, I would say the U.S. has some of the weakest privacy laws in the world. And in the meantime, I mean, for all the people listening to this who are already creeped out by the fact that the person next to them on the bus, at the doctor's office, at the grocery store, at the waxing place. At work, employers are starting to have to deal with this. They're starting to have to enact their own laws in the workplace that say, you can't wear these in meetings, you cannot wear these into the bathroom, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Okay. There you go. Thanks, employers. But what do the rest of us do? How do we ensure that our privacy isn't being violated by smart glass technology? I think you kind of can't, which is one of the most disconcerting parts about it. Your autonomy is taken away because somebody's staring at you. is wearing a recording device.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Let's not despair. You could always wear like a Richard Nixon mask and a snowsuit, I guess. You could. Or like, I've thought about just like jokingly wearing a sandwich board out
Starting point is 00:24:37 that says I do not consent to being recorded. Is that what it's going to take? No, exactly. It's like I have to look like a complete moron. But, you know, there happened instances too.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Like last year, that woman who remains unidentified, God bless her, she was on the subway and she broke that guy's meta-AI glasses and then he posted about it. She just broke my metaclasses.
Starting point is 00:24:56 You're going to be famous on the internet. She's perfect. I hope she called him a dork for wearing them before she broke them. How do you send flowers to a stranger for a good deed? I would also just recommend just being aware of what these glasses look like, what constitutes them telling you that they are on and recording. And if you notice somebody talking to you with a pair of these glasses, I would have absolutely no qualms and just asking them to be taken off.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Before you snap them off and break them. Yeah, I wouldn't feel awkward about that at all. I think sometimes people feel like maybe it's conversational or maybe you're crossing a line. It's like the line has already been crossed by somebody wearing a camera on their face. So I think it's totally fine that you push back. Callie Hayes, based in Cali, BBC.com. Earlier you heard from Victoria's Song from Theverge.com. This is today explained from Vox.com.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Abichai Arcey produced the show today. Jolly Myers edited Gabriel Donatov, check the facts. David Tadishore and Patrick Boyd mixed the show. And we are heading to church tomorrow.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.