Today, Explained - Tanning is back

Episode Date: July 12, 2026

Never mind skin cancer. Summer 2026 is all about tanmaxxing. This episode was produced by Kelli Wessinger, edited by Jenny Lawton, fact-checked by Melissa Hirsch, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Matth...ew Billy, and hosted by Jonquilyn Hill. Young women sunbathing. Photo by Krisztian Elek/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images. If you have a question, give us a call at 1-800-618-8545 or email askvox@vox.com.Listen to Explain It to Me ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:07 for the Cadillac definition of luxury. When I was a teenager, we went to the Bahamas. We didn't realize how intense the sun was down there. I'm at the beach with my friends. I don't put on any sunscreen. I'm John Glyn Hill. This is Explained it to me from Vox. The other day, producer Kelly Wessinger and I headed up to the roof of my apartment building to take part in a time-honored summer tradition, hanging out poolside, and Kelly came dressed to impress.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I'm wearing a rash guard, its long sleeve and high neck, turtleneck in the summertime. I'm also wearing shorts. There is a bathing suit underneath this. Why? Your guess is as good as mine. None of these clothes are coming off. And I'm wearing sunscreen underneath all of this, too. Before I put the rash guard on, there's 50 base layer.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Kelly has a contentious relationship with the sun. I am very pale, so I wear like 70 on my face every day. And then... Oh, you wear 70 on your face? Yeah. I won't lie to you, JQ, I've used 100. I've used 100 before, yeah. I am not pale by any means.
Starting point is 00:02:25 And I tend to play it a little more fast and loose. JQ, just in contrast to me, can you walk? walk us through what you are wearing at the pool? Oh, yeah. I have on a pair of sandals and an anklet and a bikini. And my 40 SPF, of course. Yes. She looks like a normal person at the pool.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Both Kelly and I, we've gotten burned before. And the thing about a bad sunburn is, you don't forget it. I felt this burn coming from the inside of my body. It felt like it was inside of my skin, not even on top of it. I went and Googled it. I looked on Reddit, and apparently you can get a sunburn so bad that it is called hell's itch. I applied sunscreen everywhere but the tops of my feet. And I burned the tops of my feet so bad I couldn't put socks on for two or three days.
Starting point is 00:03:24 I'm black, and so I figured I never burn. I'm not going to burn. It was horrible. Completely deep fried. My face had blown up like a big red cherry tomato. And that burn can stay with you. Skin cancer is the most common kind of cancer. And your chances of having melanoma double if you've been sunburned five times.
Starting point is 00:03:49 All of that should make sunscreen a no-brainer, right? Well, maybe not. According to Elle Beauty editor, Katie Barone, summer 2026 is actually all about getting as much sun as possible. So like a lot of trends these days, it really has taken hold on TikTok, especially with the younger audience, Gen Z in particular. And I hate to be a millennial that's like, Gen Z is doing this, but it's true. Gen Z is tanning a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And on TikTok, the way that we kind of see that manifesting, is that people are doing this thing they call tan maxing, which is like looks maxing, but for tanning. Okay, these are my tanning non-negotiables as somebody who literally treats tanning like it's a sport. Seeing how long I can last tanning in 103-degree weather in UV-12. So as you can't see, I'm like mostly burnt, but once it like fades, it'll become chocolate, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:52 Listener, she is not chocolate. So you're trying to tan as much as possible in like the most optimized way, which means they will look at the UV index and see where the sun is higher. And that's when they'll go outside when UVs like 10, which, you know, if you're concerned about the sun, that's like the last time that you want to be outside. And then there are also a lot of people that are using these tan accelerator products. Okay, I'm using my favorite tanning oil from keratin. And I'm going to see how dark I can get.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I've been used to this for over a year. It is intensive tan in gel and it has carrot and coconut oil in it. Which typically have carrot seed oil in them, which is supposed to accelerate how fast your skin tans because it has a lot of vitamin A, which is supposed to help you get tanner faster. So I was just on a family vacation and one of the people that was with us was Gen Z, 20, 3rd. years old. She had one of these carrot tan accelerators with her. She was checking the UV index. I was like, oh my God, it's like TikTok is coming to life in front of me. And, you know, I was really seeing it happen in real time. Is it that people don't know the risks or do they just not care about the risks? I think that people are aware of the risks. I, you know, I think that we're seeing that with Gen Z and younger people quite a bit, just the
Starting point is 00:06:28 way the world is, I think that there is this certain degree of nihilism of like, oh, well, the world is bad anyway. Why would I just also get a tan? And I also think that to a certain extent, you know, and I don't know how many people would say that they're necessarily inspired by the Trump administration or something like that, but we do see in the culture right now kind of this turn against medicine and vaccines and trust in science. And I do think there are people online that are taking that and also saying that they don't trust sunscreen. They think that chemicals and sunscreen are bad for you. Stop using sunscreen. Okay. The sunscreen chemicals seep into your bloodstream after just one day. I'm a big believer in not wearing sunscreen because I think it causes cancer.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Sunscreen with like crazy chemicals in it. As soon as that was approved, also a spike in melanoma happened. There's kind of this pervasive idea that sunscreen might be just as bad for you as the sun, in which case why wouldn't you also have a tan? And of course, RFK Jr., the head of health and human services, is well known for tanning, right? He is a proponent of getting in a tanning bed, and that is, you know, why he has the skin tone that he has and kind of the leatheriness to skin. So what's the aesthetic people are going for?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Like, what is the look of the moment that tanning is part of? Yeah. I mean, I think to a certain extent, wanting to be tan has never gone away. There's, like, one commonality between a WWE wrestler and a bride and it's a spray tan. And that has been the case for a long time. It's kind of like an event-ready thing. Like, you know, you want to look tan. And for some reason, people think that when they're tan, they look their best.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And obviously you can go get a spray tan, but I think, you know, there are plenty of reasons people don't necessarily want to do that. It costs money. It smells. It's messy. It is a really great alternative to being in the sun if you do want to be tan. But I think that people are kind of like, well, why would I do that when I could just go and get the real thing in the sun? So if the Secretary of Health and Human Services is super into tanning, is that normalizing this idea that tanning is actually healthy when really it's not? I mean, I do think that there are a lot of people who think that the sun has benefits for them.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And there's, you know, all these people who are like, oh, if I just go in the sun, it'll fix my eggs. or I know that people think that that's the best way to get vitamin D. And like, I do think that there is this idea that the sun can be really healthy for you. And I think that people think that they look healthier when they have a tan. Like, when I first started working on this story, I went on my, because I'm a beauty editor, so a lot of my followers are people in the beauty space. And I went on my Instagram and I asked, like, anonymously, if you like tanning, let me know why. Like so many people, so many like beauty industry insiders, makeup artists, editors, all these people were like, don't tell anyone, but I love tanning because I just think it makes me look like healthy and beautiful.
Starting point is 00:10:00 And like a lot of people were even like, I don't tan my face, but I tan my body because I think I just like look better, healthier, stronger when I have a tan. So I think that it's twofold. I think that people think that the sun is good for them. And I think that they think a tan makes them look healthier. People have been chasing the sun in pursuit of that healthy glow for more than a century. That's coming up. Support for this show comes from What Not. It's hard to follow your business dreams,
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Starting point is 00:13:25 but it's not exactly a new trend. 100 years ago, people headed to the American Southwest in search of better weather and better health. Writer Lyra Killson wrote all about it in her book, Sun Seekers, The Cure of California. This was a movement that really boomed in the late 19th century and early 20th century, and that's when people were really dealing with a very terrible tuberculosis epidemic and other respiratory illnesses for which there were no cures.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And the cure of sunshine became something that was actually prescribed by medical doctors. Patients would literally be told by their doctors, say, in Chicago, Michigan, Boston, they would be told you need to get down to the southwest. You need to pack up your family and move in order to survive. Does the sun actually have that healing power? It sounds wild to be prescribed sunshine now. I know. But actually it does. The doctors back then, even though they were not, you know, it wasn't necessarily evidenced-based medicine the way we understand it today, they were onto something. And later studies, like in the late 20th century, proved that vitamin D does actually fight some of the organisms that cause tuberculosis.
Starting point is 00:14:50 So we have all these people moving to California for the sun and for the climate. When they got there, what did their treatment look like? Give me an average day in the life of someone getting the sun treatment. Okay. Probably you would have to wake up early in the morning in order to get the most sunshine possible. and you would be expected to be outdoors in the sun for as many hours as you could be. Sometimes if you were bedridden, you might be on a bed that had been designed with wheels in a room with doors that opened out to a porch, for example, so that you could just be wheeled right out into the sunshine and get that fresh air was also part of this.
Starting point is 00:15:38 And also, so it greatly affected the way that hospitals were designed. designed at the time. Not only did people start building architecture that incorporated a lot of windows and porches, but also because of the desire for air circulation and concern about contagion, instead of just putting a lot of people into one big room, things like cottages became more popular also. So you could have a little bit more control over when you had access to fresh air and sunlight. So is this sun cure something we invented here in the U.S.? No, it really started in Europe, and Switzerland and the Alps was a very popular place. And I should say that it's sunshine that was important to people, but it was also just a feeling at the time that cities had been growing so
Starting point is 00:16:34 quickly and people's lives had been changing so quickly in terms of moving to cities, working in factories and so on. Humans were just living, at least in urban Europe. They were living a really different way than their ancestors had been. And things like sanitation and disease really kept pace, unfortunately. And so the idea of leaving the city and going to unspoiled nature in the Alps, for example, to heal was a very popular pastime. Were there any downsides to this kind of sun-maxing? Well, this is later on, so more in the early 1930s, there was a very strange link between sun, bathing, sun worship, and tanning and emerging Aryan ideas about like a perfect body, a perfect health, the perfect, you know, strength, the strength of that race, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:17:32 All of those things were combined in kind of a twisted way. and sunbathing nude or partially nude. I mean, I think to them, they were probably harketing back to like ancient Greece or something, you know, when athletes competed in the nude. But there were some extremely popular books about sunbathing that were also filled with anti-Semitic tropes. How long did this trend of sun-seeking last?
Starting point is 00:18:03 Sun as a cure was, it sort of went away, as soon as antibiotics were available in the 1940s. A miracle out of mold. That same green mold which everyone has seen growing in bread or ruining fruit and vegetables. It produces the drug known as penicillin. Through mass production methods, America is continually increasing its output of penicillin,
Starting point is 00:18:25 a new drug that affects almost miraculous cures. Once a better, you know, a much faster, more effective medical cure was available, the idea that people were not taking sun cures anymore. However, the legacy is still visible in places like Germany. You still have a lot of nude bathing by lakes and so on. They still call them things like free light bathing. So I think there's some of this residue is still there.
Starting point is 00:18:55 You know, earlier in the show, we had a conversation about tan maxing. People are back to, I know, I hear that sigh. I hear that sigh. People are back to chasing the sun, often without sun. And some of them believe that sunscreen is unhealthy or even dangerous. Do you see similarities between now and then? Like, what is going on with our relationship with the sun? I would say that the belief in what the sun can do for you is very different. I mean, it was very much sort of a matter of life and death at that time. But I would say one link is that in some of the fringe communities in the late 19th, early 20th century, there was also a great skepticism about industrial processed foods. And so sunbathing and nature cures often went hand in hand with people who were vegetarians back in those days, which looks very different than what it does now, and would maybe be, for example, Seventh-day Adventists or followers of John Kellogg and his Battle Creek Sanatorium, also the temperance movement. So in terms of feeling sort of anti-establishment and also embracing the sun, I suppose maybe that's a resonance.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I find it interesting to see all of the different waves of our relationship to the sun and tanning even. Like, for example, I think being very pale, at least in European culture, was considered very desirable for a very long time. you know, just the sort of symbolism of what a tan meant, than what it meant in the mid-century in terms of sort of like access to leisure time, what it means now. It just keeps changing, and I find that really fascinating. Up next, America's sun protection is finally catching up with the rest of the world. Support for the show comes from chime, ding-dong.
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Starting point is 00:24:22 and we have specialized cells called melanocytes that produce pigment called melanin, and the more sun exposure you get, it'll usually get more melanin, or if you're unable to produce melanin, more of a sunburn. And it's actually not a sign that your skin's becoming healthier. It's a sign that your skin has responded to ultraviolet light exposure by increasing its protection. It's just wanting to protect itself. So it just, the cells then undergo DNA damage, which your body can repair a lot of the times, but not all of it. And as you, over time, develop that DNA damage, these mutations accumulate. You know, earlier in the show, we talked about how young people are quote unquote tan maxing, as in getting as tan as they possibly can
Starting point is 00:25:19 without using any sunscreen. There's been a movement online. about how sunscreen can even give you cancer. People are making that claim. Is that real? That is not real. Skin cancer means, God, sunscreen does not cause skin cancer. What causes skin cancer,
Starting point is 00:25:39 99% of skin cancer comes from ultraviolet light. The sun is a known carcinogen, like smoking, alcohol. These things all lead to cancers. And unfortunately right now, the most common cancer is skin cancer. Are you seeing the effects of this tanning trend in your practice? I do. I see more and more young people who are number one trying to do things like get a base tan or go use indoor tanning and have seemed to be under the impression that there is a healthy tan. There is no healthy tan actually.
Starting point is 00:26:19 You know, in my practice, I have seen younger and younger people developing skin cancer. I recently saw a 19-year-old with a skin cancer on her face. And it's really hard to be at that age and to need to undergo surgery for skin cancer and to realize that this was largely preventable. Okay, speaking of which, there's a new sunscreen ingredient on the market this summer. It was already available in Europe and Asia and has been for years, but it was only just approved in the U.S. by the FDA. What is it? Yeah, it's really exciting.
Starting point is 00:27:02 It's Bemotrizzanol. Just approved by the FDA a new sunscreen ingredient for the first time in more than 25 years. This is essentially the Jalen Brunson of sunscreen. It's a broad-spectrum sunscreen, meaning it's blocking both ultraviolet. light A or the aging rays and ultraviolet light B, the burning rays. And it's particularly stable. So it remains effective even when exposed to sunlight. It's also very safe. It has low absorption through the skin due to the large molecule size. So it's safe in terms of absorption. If it's so great, why did it take so long to be approved here?
Starting point is 00:27:50 Well, that's a great question. It's a lot slower process in the United States because the FDA regulates sunscreens as over-the-counter medications rather than as cosmetic as they are in Europe. I'd love for you to break down how we should be wearing sunscreen. First, does everyone need to wear it every day? Yes. Everybody needs to wear it. Even if you have dark skin, you should be wearing sunscreen. Dark skin is not immune to skin cancer, nor is it immune to photo aging.
Starting point is 00:28:25 So everybody needs to wear sunscreen and daily, not just when you're out at the beach. Everybody should use at least an SPF of 30, and I recommend my patients an SPF of 50 if they can. applying it about 15 to 30 minutes, particularly for chemical sunscreens before going outdoors, reapplying it every two hours unless you're in the water. And then if you look for the labeling and if sunscreen says it's water resistant, that means it's good for about 40 minutes in the water and for very water resistant, it's 80 minutes. And then the question of how much, most of us don't put on enough.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Everybody's body's a little bit different, but it's about a strong. shot-sized glass to cover a whole body or a teaspoon word for the face and neck. Sometimes people also will spread the sunscreen out on your fingers, and that should be enough for the face and neck. Yeah, I do the two-finger rule for my face and neck, but I admit I don't always wear sunscreen on my whole body going out. And I'm definitely not reapplying, especially when I wear makeup. I guess, like, how do you stay on top of all this sunscreen application?
Starting point is 00:29:49 It's a lot. It's a lot. There are sunscreen powders. You can apply on top of makeup. And sunscreen is not the only way to practice sun protection. Broad-brimmed hats, sunglasses, avoiding direct sun, seeking the shift. seeking the shade and sun protective clothing
Starting point is 00:30:11 are all really useful ways of decreasing your sun exposure. Let's say you have someone come into your office and say look, I know tanning is risky, but I love how I look when I do it a little bit. It makes me feel confident.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It makes me feel attractive. What do you say to them? I mean, I totally understand that. I get it. You know, that's not unusual, but there are ways of getting an artificial suntan with self-tanners, which is a relatively safe way of getting a little darker skin temporarily. The color fades in about seven to ten days as your skin slifts off, and there's no
Starting point is 00:30:54 evidence that it's harmful. You know, skin care has come a very long way, and I can totally see a young person thinking, okay, yeah, I'm doing all this ton stuff now, but when I'm older, like, there's a for germs to fix my skin. Is that actually true? You know, dermatology can do a lot to improve the skin's appearance and to help it become as healthy as possible, but it can't reverse all of the damage. In addition to causing skin cancer, the sun is a great way to make, get freckles, thinning of the skin, irregular pigmentation, rough spots, and it's not like you can erase that entirely and have the skin of a newborn. So we can do a lot, but dermatologists are not magicians. That's it for this week. Our next episode is going to be all about names, how we get them,
Starting point is 00:32:06 why we get them, and the ways they shape our experiences in the world. So tell us, how did you get your name, and what does it mean to you? Give us a call at 1-800-6-18-8545. or send an email to AskVox at Vox.com. Another name to keep in mind, Vox Membership. Vox members get to listen to this and other Vox Podcasts ad-free. Just head over to vox.com slash members to learn more. This episode was produced by Kelly Wessinger. It was edited by Jenny Lawton,
Starting point is 00:32:40 fact-checked by Melissa Hirsch, engineered by Matt Billy and Patrick Boyd, our executive producer is Miranda Kennedy, and I'm your host, John Glyn Hill. Thank you so much for listening. I'll talk to you soon. Bye! Hey y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair.
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