Today, Explained - Texas messed with Houston schools
Episode Date: June 8, 2023The state of Texas took over Houston’s Independent School District and replaced the superintendent and the elected board. But state takeovers like this rarely make schools better. This episode was p...roduced by Victoria Chamberlin, edited by Amina Al-Sadi, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Michael Raphael, and hosted by Noel King. Transcript at vox.com/todayexplained Support Today, Explained by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Back in 2015, a state legislator in Texas by the name of Harold Dutton wrote a bill that became a law.
The law allowed Texas to take over schools that were deemed to be failing.
Dutton himself went to a school that once upon a time was very good.
It's called Wheatley, and it's in a poor part of Houston.
In the years since Dutton graduated, the school hasn't been performing well.
And when the law passed, the state jumped.
As of this month, the state of Texas has taken over the entire Houston Independent School District
and put in place its own school board.
Harold Dutton is thrilled.
What this is about is changing the outcome for thousands and thousands of kids,
particularly those in northeast Houston.
Of course, he's just one person.
There are nearly 300 schools in the district and all that that entails. and thousands of kids, particularly those in Northeast Houston. Of course, he's just one person.
There are nearly 300 schools in the district and all that that entails.
Coming up on Today Explained, a takeover in Texas.
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I'm Dominic Anthony Walsh. I cover education and culture for Houston Public Media, which is Houston's NPR station.
It's Today Explained. I'm Noelle King. We recently started airing on KUHF, Houston Public Media, which is how we came across this story that Dominic's been covering.
We are breaking into programming at this hour to tell you that the Texas Education Agency will be taking over the Houston Independent School District.
That decision was just handed down from the state. It will have a major impact on more than 200,000 students. So Houston ISD had an elected school board. They had hired a superintendent. But in March,
the Texas Education Agency, which oversees public education in Texas,
announced that it was going to take over the Houston Independent School District,
which, by the way, is the largest in the state. Failure is not an option.
We want to make sure that we have provided the best leadership environment possible for
Houston ISD.
And the way they do that is they appoint a board of managers and that board of managers
assumes the role of the school board.
Over the years, the HISD elected board has been accused of misconduct. So it's
not without its critics. But it is worth noting that in the time between that alleged misconduct
and now, all but two of the board members have left office and new board members have
been elected. In addition, the superintendent that the elected school board had hired is also being replaced with a state-appointed leader.
Our schools should be run by our locally elected school board.
As far as I'm concerned, this is a hostile takeover.
How was Texas able to do this? You've got elected leaders. The state says,
we don't want these guys. We want our guys. Why is that legal?
Yeah. So in Texas, it's been legal for a while for school boards to be replaced in cases of
financial malfeasance, fraud, things like that. But in 2015, the state legislature in Texas passed a law that added another criteria for these types of takeovers.
And it's actually more related to academic performance based on standardized tests, student outcomes after graduation.
So what that 2015 state law said was if one campus, one single school, an entire district fails to meet state standards
for a certain number of years, the Texas Education Agency has a few options. They can close the
campus, they can order alternative management, or they can do what they're doing now, appoint a
board of managers to intervene at the district level. So here in Houston, you know, we're talking
about more than 270 schools in this district.
And one of those not meeting state standards for long enough is grounds for the Texas Education
Agency to come in and take over the entire district. Well, let's talk about how many
schools were failing. You said there are 200, how many? More than 270. It's fluctuated a little bit
over the past few years, but I think the last number I've seen is 276 for this year. 276. And how many of those schools were failing? In 2019, prior to the takeover,
more than 40 schools failed to meet state standards. But there's one in particular
that triggers that takeover law, Wheatley High School. It's in a low-income area of Houston
known as the Fifth Ward, a historically black community. It was hit really
hard by Harvey, which was really tough for a lot of the students there. It was destitute. Everyone
was pretty much hopeless, especially when we started coming back. Most people didn't even
have a home to go home to. Most people were sleeping in their car. People couldn't really
advance the way they could because they were thinking about home problems. I've chatted with students who knew people who died in Harvey who were homeless after
Harvey living in their cars. People, families died. I know a guy whose grandmother drowned that summer.
It was it wasn't the best thing and so I feel like for them to target and put a pin on that
very year it sucks because nobody was at their best. So under the 2015 state law, it just takes one
school to fail to meet state standards for five consecutive years. Wheatley is that school. Wheatley
High School had failed to meet state standards even before 2015. They've missed a lot of chances
to make a difference. And at least I believe that they're out of time at this point. And I believe a board of governors is almost
virtually going to happen. And so we get to 2019. The law is officially triggered. The state
announces it's going to take over the district. Lawsuit happens. The 22-page lawsuit filed in
Austin claims the TEA's actions are nothing more than retaliation against people of color and their leaders for disagreeing with the TEA and Governor Abbott on education policy.
And we get to this year, more than three years after the TEA initially said it was going to take over the district,
and the Supreme Court of Texas clears the way,
and by March they have announced that despite improvements over those years,
they're still going to move ahead with the takeover.
Between 2019 and 2023, the school district was attempting to not be taken over by the state.
And I am wondering what happened to failing schools in the district in the meantime.
Did administrators work so that 40 schools were no longer failing? Like, did things actually get better in the time that the independent school district,
that the Houston school district held the state off?
Yes.
More than three quarters of the schools that failed to meet state standards back in 2019,
when the state first tried to take over the district, have since passed state standards.
So there's still a few schools that have fallen short in the past
couple of school years. We should note post-COVID, right? So post a big disruption. But yes,
there has been progress. And in the state's eyes, it's not enough.
In the state's eyes, it's not enough. And so they bring in this new board and this new
superintendent. Tell me about him. Where does he come from?
Mike Miles was superintendent in Dallas ISD.
Our main job is to instruct the kids. That's what we do and provide great quality instruction. So
we're going to do that and we won't allow a student to disrupt that learning process.
When he was there, he implemented some controversial reforms, including performance-based pay for teachers.
So teachers get paid based on how well their students do on tests, for example.
Since then, he was in Colorado.
He founded and ran a charter school network called Third Future Schools, a multi-state network.
They have campuses in Colorado and in Texas.
He moved directly from
third future schools into Houston ISD last week. And already some of his comments have, you know,
they've offended teachers, to be frank. We have not been able to close the achievement gap.
We have low proficiency. You really think 97% of all teachers in America are proficient?
I don't think so. And of course, a lot of public
education advocates say that's entirely unfair. And like, if we back up and look at the bigger
picture of the takeover, it's justified by schools failing to meet state standards, right?
In Texas, we have this A through F rating system. And what Miles is saying about the education
system and the way the state measures education in Texas,
folks argue just discounts all of these socioeconomic factors that make it hard for students to learn.
And so you have this tension, right, between stuff that happens outside of the school that makes it really hard for students to succeed and folks who think that if you reform the education system enough,
it'll help students overcome those factors. So Mike Miles very much falls on the reform side of that.
Mike Miles is a reformer. He will not be alone, of course. It's not just him who has been appointed
by the state. There's also a school board that's been appointed. Who are these people? Where do they come from in Houston?
Right. So there are nine members on this appointed board, and the bulk of them live kind of west of
downtown, northwest of downtown, in wealthy neighborhoods of Houston. So these nine members
largely are less representative of Houston geographically than the elected board was.
Why are people so concerned about this new board and this new superintendent?
Do they have some plans for the district that people sense are perhaps not above board or meant to make people's lives more difficult? called? So they're concerned about the new board and the new superintendent, largely because there
is no actual democratic method to hold them accountable. They're appointed by the state.
You could argue beholden to the state. But yeah, there's this idea of this is a public good,
a public institution. But right now, it's not actually governed in a public way or in a democratic way. And so it opens the door for them to do things that might be unpopular. Mike Miles also has already unveiled pretty sweeping reforms to 29 schools. They include Wheatley High School as well as two others and then all the elementary and middle schools that feed into them. Every staff member at those schools has to reapply for their job.
I imagine there are some teachers who don't like hearing that.
Yeah, you know, then they can prove me wrong, right?
So please apply is what I would say and go through the instructional interview
and then they'll get a job at $95,000.
He's also said that in these 29 schools, there probably won't be a librarian, which has been very controversial.
We will have, obviously, books that kids can take, but not necessarily a librarian staffing it.
So already, he's unveiled reforms that have a lot of people concerned.
How are parents in this big independent
school district reacting to it having been taken over by the state? Is there even one reaction or
are they divided? Oh, it's a very mixed bag. TEA will say that our schools are failing,
but I would say that TEA is failing us and our schools. There are folks who have wanted to see
Houston ISD change for a long time.
The last administration, they lied, they denied, they deflected.
And we're just looking forward to a fresh start where the new board will be transparent with us.
Even the teachers union says, yeah, we recognize that there are things that could change.
But again, the question is, how are those changes made and who's making them?
What's going to happen to Wheatley in the future?
That's still up for grabs.
I don't know.
But what I hope happens to Wheatley is that it stays the same.
It's continued thriving.
People support.
People come in and see for themselves and stop having a bad perception based off of
the past or what someone told them.
The alumni base from Wheatley plays a really prominent role
in both the push to reform
schools and education in Texas
and also against it.
So the district that Wheatley is in
within HISD,
their elected board trustee,
Wentz Wheatley,
and she was very much opposed
to the takeover.
So to have seven people
from the West Side
that don't know anything about the North side,
the Northeast side, and the South side,
that don't know that these kids have to pass
a dope house walking to school, spare me.
Folks are not excited about teacher turnover.
They're not excited about not having school librarians.
But there are definitely parents and teachers
who see some potential good in these reforms.
There's both optimism and a lot of skepticism.
That's reporter Dominic Anthony Walsh of KUHF.
You can catch Today Explained at 7.30 on weekdays there.
Coming up next, this situation is not unprecedented.
We're going to talk to a scholar who studies
what tends to happen when a state takes over local schools.
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Today Explained, we're back.
I'm Noelle King with Domingo Morel.
He's a professor of
polyscience and public service at NYU's Wagner School. And while it may seem rather niche or
niche, his field of study is what happens when a state takes over a local school district.
So I've been studying state takeovers of local schools for over 10 years now.
I started off as my dissertation at Brown University. And then since then, I have
published a book on state takeovers and have continued to research takeovers. It's obviously
of great interest to you. Were you, by any chance, educated in a school district where the state took
it over? So I did attend a public school system that was threatened to be taken over by the state,
the Union City Public Schools in New Jersey in the 1990s. And then I graduated from the Providence Public Schools in Rhode Island,
which was recently taken over by the state of Rhode Island. So yes, I do have experience.
How common is it for a state to take over an elected school board, a school board that's
been democratically elected, as we are now seeing in Houston?
We have over 10,000 school districts in
this country and only about 110 takeovers, roughly, over the last 30 years or so. So it's not very
common. What tends to be the case when a city's schools are taken over by the state? What sorts
of things do these situations have in common? Because we have, again, over 10,000 school districts across the country
and only about 110 or so takeovers, the argument that takeovers are about improving schools or
schools that are in need of improvement just does not hold, right? Because if that was the case,
we would have a lot more takeovers. There are a lot more school districts that are struggling.
But my research shows that there are several factors that are associated with the increased likelihood of a takeover. The first being populations of
color, particularly African-American communities, right? So they are, once you have increased
numbers of African-American students and a population, that increases the likelihood of
a takeover. The second factor is partisan politics. So usually takeovers are being led by Republican
governors and Republican-led state
legislatures, and they're happening in communities of color, which are mostly associated with the
Democratic Party and particularly locally elected officials. And finally, there's a question about
resources. And so my research shows that when communities fight for more resources for their
schools through the court systems and actually win
court cases, that that increases the likelihood of a state passing a law to take over a school
district.
So these are the factors that are mostly associated with that.
So in that case, based on your research, what we see happening in Houston today is actually
the way it normally happens.
As absolutely consistent with what we see happening across states and cities,
that we have majority Republican, majority white state legislatures and governors taking over
majority communities of color. The rhetoric, the justification for the takeover is often
about improving schools. That's what we hear from state officials. That's what we hear of
supporters of state takeovers, that it's about improving schools.
Nearly 90% of Camden schools, 23 out of 26, are in the bottom 5% performance-wise of all in New Jersey.
We're not acting because we've got everything perfect, and we're not acting because we believe we know better.
We're acting because inaction is immoral.
However, what the research shows is that they don't lead to improved schools.
They must think that there's something about their plan that's going to be different than what takeovers have looked like around the country. And what we see is on average,
they tend to not really do much to support students and improve their outcomes.
Now that we have, again, over 30 years of evidence that this is not what happens,
what are the other factors that we see that are associated with this?
And so what happens is that it's, again, the racial partisan dynamics leads to the disempowering of communities, the losing of a school board, the losing of the ability to influence curriculum, decision making for the school district, like who the superintendent is going to be and things like this.
Right. And so the reality is that it's about not improving schools,
but disempowering communities.
The scene is nothing short of apocalyptic.
80% of New Orleans, including much of downtown, is underwater.
After Hurricane Katrina in 2005,
the state took over the school district.
It became the first all-charter school district in the country.
Seizing the moment, the state took control of the city's failing schools.
Pink slips were sent to all 5,000 teachers.
And the state set out to remake New Orleans
as a city where nearly all the schools would be independently run charters.
Local school officials were no longer in charge.
And while the majority of the student population in
New Orleans is Black, the majority of the school board charter members were white. Not only that,
the New Orleans public schools had the largest Black teaching force in the country at the time.
Within 10 years after the takeover, it decreased by 25 percent%. So it was less than half of the school of the teaching force was
black following the Hurricane Katrina. And finally, thousands of jobs were lost. And most of these
jobs, you know, they usually represent, you know, good, decent paying jobs for community members.
And so most of the people that lost out on these jobs were people from the city of New Orleans. So this is what the New Orleans example shows,
and the data on school improvement has not been very strong.
While there was some evidence in the early years
that takeover led to improved schooling outcomes in New Orleans,
that has flattened off and in some cases has decreased.
So we just don't even have good evidence that
after all of that, that the schools have improved in New Orleans.
Now, our reporter in Houston was telling us that some residents of that city are concerned about
this takeover because the gentleman who's been appointed as superintendent does have a history
of being a charter school guy. Is that another trend that
what we are pushing for when a state takes over in a particular city is there's a push to go charter?
If we see takeovers as a political act, right, a political intervention, and one that removes
any opposition to an agenda that the state has, then we see how clearly charter schools are
connected to this, right? And so we do see that state takeovers are associated with the increased
number of charter schools coming into the district. While New Orleans is the most drastic
example because it went to an all-charter school system. Other districts have also increased their charter
schools, although not all of the schools are charters. So that is associated with takeover.
And so I think that Houston, being so close to New Orleans, there are people within the district now
who have seen New Orleans as a model. I think it's fairly safe to assume that Houston is going to be looking to increase
the number of charter schools. Whether it's an all-charter, majority charter, significant charter,
we don't know, but I think it's safe to assume that that is probably a reality in Houston.
One thing that has to be true for a state to get involved in a city's schools is that the schools
just are not doing well. Some number of
them, some percentage of them are not doing well by commonly held standards. I am hearing you saying
it often doesn't work out that well when a state comes in and takes over. What other options does
a state have? What other options does a city have? You know, I was part of a public school system
that was under a threat.
That was the Union City Public Schools. And the Union City Public Schools were not taken over,
and today is considered a model school district across this country. And so what winds up happening
in Union City? Well, Union City was able to get more resources from the state. Officials did not
view the local community as a problem that needed to be removed, but instead saw it
as an asset that needed to be cultivated politically and economically. And so the state
can and should have a role to play in helping improve schools by providing adequate resources,
by providing the expertise that they have at the state that may be lacking in some degree at the
local level, but they can lend that support.
They can convene community groups, parents, school board members that create the spaces
for people to come together to talk about what it is that needs to happen to improve
the schools.
And so they can foster a community collaborative effort rather than taking over and separating
communities from schools.
Domingo Morel, he teaches poli-sci
and public service at NYU.
Today's episode was produced by Victoria Chamberlain
and edited by Amina El-Sadi.
It was fact-checked by Laura Bullard
and engineered by Michael Raphael.
I'm Noelle King.
It's Today Explained. you