Tomorrow - 103: Skincare

Episode Date: October 24, 2017

On today's episode, Josh and Ryan reflect on their week spent following a strict Korean skincare regimen. Do they feel refreshed? Is their skin smoother? Have they uncovered the secret to eternal yout...h? These answers and your calls, right here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:53 Sounds exciting. Buy it at MITpress.mit. welcome to tomorrow. I'm your host, Wittepulls. I'm here with Ryan Hullahan. Hello. Thank you for being here. I know you. I know you have to come all the way from Los Angeles. Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:01:36 That's right. I literally stepped off of a plane into this booth. It's great. It's a great story. Anyhow, so we're... It's tomorrow where we talk about things that are affecting me on a personal level and this week This week we're talking about the the
Starting point is 00:01:52 tragedy of aging Korean skin care the inevitability of death and Also the film this is 40 by Judd Apatow great comedic romp which takes a dark turn towards the end And becomes a murder suicide film which I I thought was odd, an odd choice. Okay, so look, here's the deal. I mean, as I just get out of the way, I mean, I mean, I just tell people, I turned 40 on October 19th, which means that like now everybody says stuff like dad whenever I say anything. I am a father, so it's fitting.
Starting point is 00:02:25 But it's also annoying. People call me dad, but in different venues, people don't realize how much ageism there is out there. They're casually, they're having their, you know, brunch, they're, you know, walking their dogs, but they're really being ageist. Yeah, what's by having brunch? What's fascinating is that you made this observation as a man.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And you're like, oh, God, age is a, let's be so hard for men. Number one issue facing America right now. So I don't think my guy, Donald Trump, gets a fair shake, you know, he's old. You know, I think if people would just get past his age and look at his ideas, they would see some real garbage. A.C.
Starting point is 00:03:06 True value of Trump and by extension, Maga. If you're, if you're just joining us, we are here today talking about aging, death, skin care. Yeah. So here's the deal. So, so last week, well, two weeks ago, we were trying to figure out what we should do for the show and we had a bunch of different ideas and one was like some really ner nerdy stuff like use a palm tree for a week, which we're going to do. We're going to do.
Starting point is 00:03:29 One of them is like go to the Scientology, you know, become a Scientologist. Which I should have done, which was in LA. I had the perfect opportunity and you blew it. But then, you know, Ryan came up or somebody came up with this idea of like, it was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me.
Starting point is 00:03:40 It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. It was me. Ryan, who's a brilliant guy, and I gotta tell you really just a super intelligent creative person came up with this idea that we should do screen screen skincare a screen skin care
Starting point is 00:03:50 routine for a week and it just happened to coincide with my birthday week and also ironically happened to coincide with the sickest I've ever been in recent memory like totally sideline bent over. But it's actually kind of a crawling along the floor. It's a good thing though, because I also was like, I was traveling in LA for work and I was sleeping three hours a night on a cot.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And it was terrible flying, but it was a stress test for the skincare stuff to see does it work on your pressure? I was just like falling apart as a human being. Can you replace my natural glass? I actually have a lot. to still have this like cough, which is horribly unnatural. If you want to call in and talk to us about skincare,
Starting point is 00:04:30 the number is 2026881697. Yeah, but let me jog just I want to I just want to say to the audience, if you can jog your memory a little bit on the the new tomorrow, the concept here is that we I actually try to do something meaningful that I've either wanted to do, talked about doing, thought about doing, promised myself I would do that we actually, these shows are not just like, hey, I'm just going to randomly talk about whatever, but we're going to specifically talk about something and let people call in and talk about it with us.
Starting point is 00:04:59 And so, so this week, I think it's like, it is like skincare, but that's just like a little tip of the ice cream. That's like the epidermis. If you go to the sebaceous glands, what you would find. You really want to stimulate growth. Yeah, well, you think it's right. So what we're actually talking about is like aging and taking care of yourself. And like as a person who is not, I don't think I've done anything to take care of myself.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I've actually tried to do some things recently that were, it's funny too, because I've been so sick, but I've tried to do some things recently that were not, that were like a little bit more cognizant of the fact that I'm aging. Yeah. And you know, my body's not going to be in this pristine condition forever. Listen, it's like a car. Prevent the damage. Don't try to fix your car while you're still driving it.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I don't know. That's not a saying anybody's ever said. I just did. That's not a thing that people talk about. Put it on Instagram. Nobody talks about fixing their car while they're driving it. That's how to hurt them. But so here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:05:54 So I got, I got a bunch of skincare stuff, but I got this little travel set. Look at from the face shop. Are we seeing this this are we getting this getting that okay there it is and there's uh let me tell you so I didn't bring the face watch as I got a foaming face wash heaven grade ginseng yeah then there's a heaven grade he's having great ginseng is the is the kind of line here so we've got toner which you put on with a with a little um put that right there you put on on the toner with a little cotton ball or a cotton, whatever the flat ones are
Starting point is 00:06:29 called. I don't know, is there, do they have a name? The flat, like a cotton pad, a make up or mover wipe. Yeah. Then I have this emulsion, I don't know what it is, it's an emulsion, some kind of liquid put your face. Wait, it's written in Korean, so it's not. Then there's a serum, serum right here. There's an eye cream, which I didn't bring,
Starting point is 00:06:52 because all I had was samples of the eye cream. I'm just trying it out for a week. I don't know if I can commit to a light cream. To an eye cream. And then there's this little guy here, which is this moisturizer. The moisturizer's cool, it's like, it's glue-like. You get it. Just get a look in there. Can we just get a... Yeah, it's like it's like a putty. It looks kind of like a
Starting point is 00:07:09 teetina butter. It's like peanut butter. Yeah. So, I mean, here's the interesting thing. I have been... I'm gonna get a little bit personal right now. I killed four people. No, I raped and killed four people. No, that's... I didn't do that, I had bad acne when I was a kid. When I was a teenager, I was like a full on pizza face. I was like a, what is the deadly acutane? Acutane. Acutane's like, that's the stuff that makes you wanna kill yourself,
Starting point is 00:07:38 but you look a little better. Maybe I've talked about this in the podcast, but like literally on the acutane container, it's like every pill has a picture of a pregnant woman with a cross through it, with they don't do this through it. It's apparently, like if you're on, if you're taking Accutane and you get pregnant, you have to instantly have a some kind of mutated monster baby that like destroys. And you jump into this with two feet, you're like, great, mutated monster baby, so it's
Starting point is 00:08:03 better than sex I was like anything anything is better than looking like a disgusting Piece of shit But so I had bad skin as a kid and I got very sensitive about Like what I would do with my skin like I mean first off I'm not a handsome person. I mean, I think it's obvious I'm like a if a werewolf and a Dracula had sex and then they had a baby This is what would happen. I think maybe a little, a little body dysmorphic.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I think about how they'll see my parents are werewolves and a Dracula. But I just say that I'm like a hideous, uh, hideous, uh, vis-in-shur. Anyhow, so I got- Humble, this unlocked. Yeah. But I got very, I could very worried about what I would and wouldn't put on my face. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And so I got into this routine of like just literally a night what I do is I have this like, great investment by the way, I bought like a 25 pack of like white wash cloths. Just as like my, and I'll just get them hot water. That's what they say to do. And then wash it. The French.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah. Throw in the laundry basket, you know. And so I've done that for a long time. I've always been like very nervous about putting shit on my face at night. Like I don't want to put a bunch of moisturizer and cleansers. This is great stuff. This is great material.
Starting point is 00:09:13 This is what everybody wants to hear from me. So but actually like this, just doing this routine was like, I was kind of like surprised to discover that I could put a bunch of like moisturizer and serum and eye cream or whatever. And it would not completely tank This amazing It's a science like anything else and I think it's interesting that especially I I've taken care of my skin for a long time because I Obviously, I'm a performer and it's like obviously I mean I am
Starting point is 00:09:41 I think That's that and when you have a zit all you think about is when you're on, whenever you're anywhere, you're like, can people see this? So I'd be thinking, how can I turn this into a bit? No. How could this zit be a bit? I'm not trying to rhyme, but. Yeah, I guess it would humanize you to be like, look at this zit.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Anyway, folks, dick joke, dick joke. Can I really? Did you do a lot of dick material? No, actually don't. Okay, well, I don't know where they came from. Well, I've always been worried about it, but it is a chemistry like anything else, and I think it's sort of, I felt weird about it,
Starting point is 00:10:09 and it was weirdly stigmatized for men to worry about their skin care. But I do, I have developed over time, a complicated skin care situation. Where I, these are your products here. Yeah, these are, okay, so I've got my regular products that I use, and then the Korean products I got a little camera here. I don't know if it's working, but oh yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:10:29 These are just a sampling. This is only some of this is maybe a third of this guy's a sick He's a very sick person. I use a lot of I drop her product. I'm the I'm the one with body just more Okay, look at this stuff, but listen I I have always had tough skin and everyone in my family ages very quickly skin wise. So this is my best camera work. And I work about it. Look at that. That's great. It's amazing. We could be. Oh shit. That's an earthquake. Sorry. Go ahead. Josh got a toy and you can see what comes of that. I'm fucking dying over here. Go ahead. But no, if you, I mean, you look better at your healthier, you feel good when you take care of yourself. It's like exercising. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Yeah, that's true. I, here's the thing that was really surprising to me about this skin care plan that we went on. By the way, I should say it's hot as fucking this room right now. So if we have a glow, it's either the glow. It's the glow. If we should be sweating, it has nothing to do
Starting point is 00:11:18 with these wonderful Koreans, skin care products. But it takes forever to deal with this routine. It's a long routine. I had like five steps and it was like, really, I'm getting to do that. I got to go through all of this. Listen, and when I do my like regular skin care, it doesn't feel very long because I'm using like retinae from the dermatologist. I wash my face.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I put like an oil on and that's kind of it. So what is it? Yeah, go ahead. But with this, it was like, I wasn't sure why I was washing my face three times or like putting a mist on. Like, wasn't sure what all of that was about. So you have how many steps there? So my total plan was about 12 steps and that was crazy, especially traveling.
Starting point is 00:12:00 What, what, what was the, what's step one? All right. Step one is you cleanse. You want to wash off what you what was the, what's step one? All right, step one is you cleanse. You want to wash off what you have from the day. So you would do an oil cleanse, an oil cleanse to take off whatever product is there. Then you do a water-based cleanser because that apparently takes off germs.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And then you go, I mean, it's like a long, then you're going to a water product's essences which I'm just trying to get air in the room. Don't worry, you turn the cat Robbie, just focus on Ryan. Don't worry about what I'm doing every year. I'll tell you when he stops doing that. Then you go to like oil products. If you go from like thin to thick sheet masks,
Starting point is 00:12:37 there is a lot involved. And I have to say when you're traveling, and it's the end of the day, and you've been in Disneyland, it's when you need it the most, and you just want to lay down and go to sleep. Yeah. But you know what, and it's all done, you day and you've been in Disneyland, it's when you're needed the most and you just want to lay down and go to sleep. Yeah. But you know what, and it's all done, you feel like you got chores done, like you feel productive. So while I was doing this, I became ill.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Uh-huh. Uh, I got very sick. I'm still sick about it. I finished my antibiotics today. And I was like, couldn't talk, couldn't breathe. I was like coughing and coughing up horrible things. But you looked great. Well, it was a real, I mean, it was really like
Starting point is 00:13:08 the last thing I wanted to do was to apply any of this fucking skincare bullshit. Yeah, and it didn't make me feel any better, but I mean, I will say you look glowy. I think I don't, I do I, yeah. I can't tell. The other thing I've been doing is I've been dieting aggressively. Well, we have a caller, we have a call in your mark from N. I.C. once to talk about
Starting point is 00:13:28 Mark you want to talk yeah we're taking calls to 688 uh uh 1697 but Mark go ahead what's happening Josh you look very shiny you say and I look you say I look bad No, you're great, but shiny is usually so do we or shiny or like glowing am I glowing or like sweating? It's a good beautiful glow. I see on the TV Okay, I'm I feel like I'm just Nose this right in mid that's nice. All right mark is that all you had to say or is there anything else you'd like to add to this conversation nice. Mark, is that all you had to say or is there anything else you'd like to add to this conversation? No, I almost opened the company, a store selling natural green beauty items, and so I switched
Starting point is 00:14:12 myself, and I noticed my skin went crazy, happy. But it wasn't until I changed what I was eating. Did I really get benefits from it? I benefits from that? Tell me about that. What did you change? How did you change your diet? Originally, I was eating fried food only and eating you by the gas station. That's bad. That's really bad. The single worst diet. You eat exclusively fried food and then you switched to what but now But now then I went like homemade food and that started getting better But now like I don't eat meat at all. Yeah, I don't do dairy. Yeah, especially dairy. Dairy is light Dairy is the devil no one wants to talk about it. No hormones and anti-biotic
Starting point is 00:14:57 No one wants to talk about the truth which is cows are killing everybody on this planet I just ate a cheese sandwich and we need to stop them. I Chees is good. I was a cow. cow. I mean you know it's like you cheese. I'll thank you some cheese just from out. So you're gonna well so you're not eating so you're not eating you what do you eat vegan cheese? I homemade mostly but yes we eat it. Okay all right that's intense and you feel better. But from there my skin went like my hair isn't like falling out anymore. You was your hair with your hair? It's an improvement. I don't know. It's been receiving.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Okay. You're saying you're saying you you're having you feel like actually you were able to reverse hair loss by changing your diet. I wouldn't say hair loss. My hair is thick. I think I'll have a hair. I think every I think a lot of people are worried about like, is my hair, what's that with my hair? How much does it actually matter what you eat? I don't know, but I do feel like I think it's definitely got to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Cause I mean, it's something like, you know, fried food can't be good for him. No. Feels like it just said, you need three times a day. You are what you eat. It hasn't just something, right? I guess. I guess. Yeah, I mean right? Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I mean, I guess I get. Yeah, you're, that's right. You're a grilled cheese
Starting point is 00:16:09 sandwich. That's all you are. You walk it around a grilled cheese sandwich with legs at arms and glasses. Baby, I don't know if you were glasses or not. But um, well, Mark, this is really interesting. I think this is like great insight. I actually do feel that changing my
Starting point is 00:16:22 diet and eating less, just eating like and not eating like, I was one of those eaters where I would just get so fucking hungry and I was eating like a maniac and feel terrible. I only let you. Let me say you didn't want to do this experiment, but I switched to Soil int for two meals a day.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I'm not going there. And I feel completely different. I had one day where I kind of fell apart and Wynton who works here kind of had to push me along. But I've been that I feel so much better because I think what I was craving was like nutrients I wasn't getting. So I was just eating like crap all day,
Starting point is 00:16:54 trying to fill like that whole, that scratch, that itch that I just couldn't do. I've also found that in Mark, maybe you think this is true, Ryan, maybe you agree, but like being really full is not a good, like fried food and fatty food, like really makes you feel not good. Like, it's, I don't feel like bodies
Starting point is 00:17:11 are supposed to feel that way. I think we've just created like a whole world of shit to eat that is basically, if you eat it in moderation, you're probably fine, but the way we eat it, the way I was eating it, I don't think of any kind of moderation. Like I just jam a lot. Like some of these foods are made to just hack your brain,
Starting point is 00:17:27 not to actually like do anything for you. Yeah, Mark, what was that? It's a screwdriver. You really hit the camera. Mark, I just want to know, I just want to say before and I can be... I think we have to move on to another call, but I just before... I have to help for you. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:17:43 It's one of our... Are you paid by any anti-dairy interests. There's a lot. I'm hearing a lot of very serious anti-dairy sentiment from you. I just want to be clear. There's no ethical gray area that you're in. I like to be able to breathe. I like smooth skin. I don't feel that I'm a baby cow. I'm not denial of you being offended by anti-dairy intros, but big diet. Yeah, exactly. Do I need to formally say it? No, yeah, I think you do.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Can I challenge you to do your same test you did last week, but do it with eating better and see if your skin gets luscious? I'm already eating better. It probably takes three weeks. I eat like it. There you go. Well, I haven't had a lot of dairy lately. Oh, maybe that's it.
Starting point is 00:18:24 So if you, dairy, if you were planning on sponsoring tomorrow, you'd be surprised. How many boxes you pick up? Thank you, Mark. We get it. You don't like dairy, okay? That's interesting. That's just a lot of clear, Mark. Thank you very much. Wait, he was about to say something amazing. He was like about to be like, by the way, I've seen the future and here's how we could stop Trump. Mark, you're still there. No, Mark's gone. Zegan.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Listen, all of this, whatever you know, how to stop Trump now. All of this comes down to we're hurtling towards the dystopic future. We're all getting older. What are we doing to make to keep up with it? If you, if you have any tips besides taking care of Ruskin call them to 202-688. Yeah, do you have any tips that are not exactly related? Please. If you have a strong feeling about dairy,
Starting point is 00:19:10 pro or con, like we'd love to hear about it. But I was doing all these little serums, so I went to the ordinary, which is a brand that does scientifically-based skincare. Is it Korean? No, it's not Korean. Why am I talking to you? And point of this, I did all Korean.
Starting point is 00:19:28 My understanding is the Koreans have the best skincare. They do, but here, but look, these were each five bucks. Some shit from Zurich or. These were each five bucks from the UK. Oh, please, you're telling me a British skincare? They need it more than anyone. They need it more than anyone. Get a lot of sun.
Starting point is 00:19:44 But the ordinary is this little brand that makes like, They need it more than anyone. They need it more than anyone. Get a lot of sun. But the ordinary is this little brand that makes like these little like nice and a I found is really good. Are you sponsored by no? No, I just really like it. If they want to send me free stuff, I want to be. I just want to be chill. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And then I have Rosehip oil. It's like to be clear that we're not sponsored by whatever this brand is that Ryan is saying about it. Big rose on his own if he wants to get a sponsorship from the ordinary. That's ethically an area that I'm not going to cross into. I can tell you I'm not sponsored by, uh, can you read it? The face shop. The face shop, which is the brand that I use.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I wonder what do we know why South Korea has become so good at anti-aging skin care, all of this stuff. Well, they're very fast internet there. True. I can tell you that. So they're all connected, you know. They've got so much to share. So many makeup gurus.
Starting point is 00:20:32 You think about how long it takes to get a makeup tip onto the internet in America. In South Korea, it's just like boom, boom, boom. They just go on there. Jeffrey Stars, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, there's like, there's, you know, I'm sure Samsung is, has a, does doing a lot of innovation in the skincare. I mean, Samsung actually makes like a billion things. New skin.
Starting point is 00:20:51 No, they probably, they probably have a galaxy S skin or whatever, you know, which is something you can, which is good until it explodes. It's come on. I mean, have we not moved past the Samsung exploding jokes, but it's true that South Korea has the best skin care products. But it's true that South Korea has the best skin care products. And it's fun. Maybe no one South Korea are just very vain. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And, and, but what does it say about America that our best exports are blockbuster movies? Is that our best export? Narcissism? We're about freedom. We're think freedom's a good export. You don't think fucking democracy. You don't think the Trump hotel. Have you seen the flag America flag? We've got the good export. The flag of freedom waving over all countries.
Starting point is 00:21:29 No, well, here's the thing. I bought a bunch of the Korean products, but it's hard to know these brands from the UK or the US tell you English. I could read these. No, but they also just tell you scientifically that are like, this is Arzurelein and this is what it's for. Or this is, I like the mystery. I like that. I, one of the things I like about this is you don't know what goes into it. I mean, I, it's like the serum, you know, here's the emulsion regenerating emulsion. Heaven grade, Jinsang, it's as a pretty high quality Jinsang. That's at the top of the list. Heaven is like way up there. It's up like off the things you can have. Think about top shelf.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Heaven is above it. And then it's like, well, it's a regenerating emulsion. But using it to feel like. I don't even know what those two words mean together. Do you feel like it's anti-aging or do you feel like it's just making you look a little better? I feel like it made my skin feel moist.
Starting point is 00:22:20 In a way that I'm not used to my skin feeling. And it didn't make me break out. And I feel like that's a big win. I not used to my skin feeling. And it didn't make me break out. And I was like, that's a big win. Like the epic win for these guys. For the, one of these that I got is the phase shop, which is like, there look, it looks a little bit like the body shop. Can I get this up?
Starting point is 00:22:35 Sorry, can we just get this going here? Josh, Josh has a new camera toy that he can point to things. Can we get that up on the screen or no, you can't do it? And at the end of it, now the show is there's tiny camera. Oh connection in a ruptured great technology. Apple once again, a failure from America. Apple making it from the world's most valuable company. Any other face shop has a logo that looks a lot like the body shop.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Do you agree? Yeah it does, it kind of does. Is that an example? Come on we can see your blurry hands here. No, all right. Any how you can call us a 202-688-1697. Talk to start aging. I want to talk about aging. We can see your boring hands here. No, all right. Anyhow, you can call us a 202-688-1697. Talk to us about aging.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah, I want to talk about aging. I also want to talk about turning. So, tell me about aging. What are you so concerned about? Doesn't it just get better and better? I think I heard Rosemagow and say, it just gets better and better. Everybody, all actresses and actors
Starting point is 00:23:17 love to talk about how great aging is, because it's like, what else are they going to say? I hate this, why is this happening? I feel like there's got to be... I don't feel, I don't feel feel Madonna seems pretty clear that she hates it. She's definitely fighting nature. She's using something stronger than rose hippo oil. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:34 South Koreans could learn from Madonna. Yeah. I mean, they're like a sacrifice anybody. But Madonna can afford to sacrifice people. Well, the Kabbalah Center is like three blocks over. So I don't feel an age. I mean, I know people say this shit, but like, you feel the age you've always. I don't know, when I was young, I felt like,
Starting point is 00:23:54 I didn't fit in with young people. I always hung out with older people because it was weird. And all the people I know now are considerably younger than me and all the people I work with are considerably younger than me. And I mean, for the most part, and I don't know, I, are considerably younger than me and all the people I work with are considerably younger than me. And I mean, for the most part, and I don't know, like I think age is a really stupid concept that people spend a lot of time thinking about.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I had to look at my birthday was extremely, like nothing. I was so sick. You were stressed? I was so sick. I was so sick I couldn't be stressed. And also like, it's better if a birthday is nothing. Like it's better if like people don't make a big deal
Starting point is 00:24:24 about your birthday. Yeah. Like what does it even if like, people don't make a big deal about your birthday. Yeah. Like, what does it even mean? I like a lowered expectation. I always, if I expect my birthday to be a really cool big deal, I'm like, oh my God, can't wait. It's gonna be, and then it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:24:35 It's a disappointment. You just feel older. So, New Year's Eve is always bad, because people are old shit. So, New Year's Eve is always bad, because people are old shit. I was turning 28, which please don't make comments about how that's very young, because it was a crisis for me.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Is that how old you are? Yes. I was turning 28. I thought you were a crisis for me. Is that how old you are? Yes. I was turning 28. I thought you were a lot older than that. You thought I was younger? You want to check my ID? No, I was turning 28 and I was, the reason I got upset was because I was like, well, at the time I was 30, I wanted to have all this stuff done.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And then I realized, you know what, I'm expecting to be really upset for this birthday and blah, blah, blah, blah. And then my birthday ended up being a pleasant surprise because I realized if anything, this is two years to get done with that stuff or just not worry about it. That age is kind of just a number. Yeah, I mean, they say that, but and yet I'm kept out of so many questions.
Starting point is 00:25:14 But do you feel like there's anything you can't do now? Well, I can't be on a 30 under 30 list, for instance. That's not gonna happen. Well, bless. That might be the best case scenario. I think I bid on some, so I feel like I got to cover it. I was also on 40 under 40, scenario. I think I bid on some. So I feel like I got to cover it. I was also I was also I was also 40 under 40.
Starting point is 00:25:27 So humbleness on achieved. John. I don't know if I was an a three. But like no, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm annoying about aging is like I remember turning 26 and thinking like my back doesn't work the way that it did before.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And that stuff is the stuff that you're like, I didn't even appreciate. I don't I have no idea that the spin class could be hard. Well, I'm physically in very poor shape and have been since I was a teenager because I don't like to walk, I don't like to move too much. I love sitting. That's good.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Yeah, no, I find that stuff fairly annoying. My knees have been bad since I was like 17. I feel like I have terrible ankles. I think I've always been like, every time I get up from like kneeling down, I'm was like 17. I feel like I have that terrible ankle. I've always been like every time I get up from like kneeling down, I'm like, oh, like I feel like I'm 75 years old. So I think there's not a big change there. My, there's gray, significant gray in my hair.
Starting point is 00:26:15 But are you someone who's gonna try to fight it and like cover up the gray and hide it? The gray? No. I have gray in my beard like right here. But men look better when they're a little bit older. No, but I hate this weird gray where it's like, it's just gray right here and it makes it look like my beard ends because I'm really fucking pale. So I'm just like annoyed because it looks like this weird thing where I have some kind of
Starting point is 00:26:32 like backstreet boys like, do you know what I'm talking about? You've got like the, I have a beard, you're making an affectation. It's like there's something here but it's like blending anyhow. I don't know, he's, this guy's John's talking about what camera to look at, but it doesn't matter. The important thing is, are you wanna me to use this?
Starting point is 00:26:51 Oh yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm not getting that on my mind. We gotta go to the huge city, and we can go to the UZZ. I do feel like I'm gonna be the person that probably covers up the gray. No, look, I don't, who fucking cares? I mean, there's like,
Starting point is 00:27:04 I feel like most annoying about aging. I tell you, the most annoying thing about aging is the thing I mentioned were the dad thing. Yeah, where it's like, I mean, like, if I'm like, this is fucking stupid, people are like, you're just old. And it's like, no, I'm just smart. Like, I do, this is bad. So like, I'm like, oh, the Avengers movies are terrible.
Starting point is 00:27:20 They're like, thanks, dad. It's like, no, they're bad movies. I feel like a lot of people, now that I'm reaching a slightly different age as a matter of fact, let me tell you, a lot of just rampant, blatant, rude ageism. I feel like now that I'm in a different, from all these millennials on their hover boards, their comms with their Kanye glasses. Well, I heard, I finally, I read an article the other day that was like, millennials are over. They're nothing. Nobody cares about them. Nobody's marketing to them anymore. Millennials done. And I was like, millennials are over, there nothing, nobody cares about them, nobody's marketing to them anymore, millennials done,
Starting point is 00:27:46 and I was like, oh no. But I found that I get into a different demographic people are coming to me with lots of advice about like, well, in this stage of your life, and that kind of worries me a little bit. I don't think millennials are a thing. You don't think that's a thing? I think it's a bullshit term made up by marketing people.
Starting point is 00:28:01 But I mean, like we grew up with the internet, and I think that changes how you think about this. Congratulations. I don't know. American Horror Story had a very interesting thing about a generational difference. What I did think was a cool observation, which was that my generation, you would think
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Starting point is 00:30:45 Travis from Cincinnati here who has some product recommendation. Travis was on last episode. Travis, are you repeat caller? I am yet. Oh, we love you, Travis. Travis laid on us. What do you got?
Starting point is 00:30:55 All right. Yeah, so I've kind of got into some skincare products a few years ago. And I found a site is called Prime is on. Have you ever heard of that? This is a fucking ad Travis. Are you? for Primazon? It sounds like a very weird period. I'm going to go to this website right now.
Starting point is 00:31:11 This sounds like something from Black Mirror. No. Primazon, be young again. Okay. Okay. So it basically is a site that just like says what are the absolute highest rated products of all time on Amazon. Okay. That's a I bought like three skin care products from there. What were that I really enjoy it? Can you talk about them? One was called Health and beauty as tech secret Indian healing. I use that stuff. That's the best stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's the best stuff. It really works. What does it really? It does. What's in it? Travis, do you know? It really works. What does it really it does what's in it Travis, do you know? It looks like ash or something and you put vinegar in it and It really hurts and then it makes your face really red. Oh, wow That sounds great, but it really works has such a high rating. Okay, so so what's your other would you ask did you get?
Starting point is 00:32:01 The other one is hemp with the Z at the end and I trust any product that ends with the Z. Yeah, I agree with that. Is it get you high? You apply it to the base. It's made from weed. I already made from hemp, right? Made from hemp. Yeah, I guess I can get high off of hemp. Well, I was a third. I guess it kind of was the third product. The third one is called metal one, a rim-bitty skin repair cream. I have never heard of that. Why did you, Travis, I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Why did you decide to get these products? Well that one looked interesting because I think it's meant for burn victims. Okay, but are you a horn? I mean, like, I'm not and not to make a joke. Are you a burn, are you a burn victim? No, no, I'm just saying that if it works, if it works, burn victims, it'll work for me. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, triggered your interest in getting skin care products. Well, just reaching kind of an age where, you know, you start to become a little self-conscious, I suppose. True. I found the prime is on and you just kind of go through there and it's just the highest rated stuff on Amazon.
Starting point is 00:33:17 So you can kind of, you know, you just hit that prime now button. Okay, are you sure this is not a prime is on ad Travis? Can you tell me if you are getting any kind of kickback, affiliate dollars for this prime is on placement? No, not if I was, I would definitely mention on my last call. Okay. True.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Now we know we can trust. So do you use this stuff every day? Unless you just think this is some kind of long con. Yeah, I would wait until the second. You know what? If you do that respect. No, it could be could be used to be a whole thing where you're Or, you know, I waited until the second. You know what, if you do that respect. No, it could be, could be used to be a whole thing where you're like, you're like,
Starting point is 00:33:49 I look at how many bucks I've created for Primus I, but this is like a long term con on the tomorrow podcast. Oh, so let me ask you this, like how often you... I find... Sorry, I just wanted to invite everybody to go to Primus on. Oh my gosh. If it's good enough for Bernvictives, it's good enough for burn victims it's good enough for you. Sorry i was thinking that's great.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Travis that's great thank you very much always enjoy your uh... always enjoy what you've got to bring to the conversation even if it's a affiliate link for primas. Are you using this everyday? Putting code putting code Travis if you go to primas on for a special discount. I don't. The Indian healing clay as tech Indian healing. I'm confused by that one because it's kind of like two continents, right? There as techs are Indians, which one? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Well, I think that's. I don't even want every, I don't know, maybe every month. It's kind of how often do you use it? So I do it once a week because I do this thing called, where you, so blackheads are not supposed to pop them or anything. They're actually sebaceous filaments under the skin, which is just sort of an oxidized thing. And to get rid of it, you do a BHA, HAPL, then you do a clay, the Aztec clay mask with vinegar,
Starting point is 00:35:03 and then wash all of that off and you do oil and you leave the oil on for like 50 minutes and then you massage and you'll see all the little black things come out of your face and I do that about one so we gish depending and honestly my nose has always been covered in little black dots that I've been really self-conscious about and it helps it doesn't get rid of them completely but it helps. That's great stuff Travis Travis, thank you so much for calling in. So I want to quickly talk about the show. So we're talking just to catch everybody up if you join midstream and I don't know why you would have, but we're talking about, Koreans can care and aging and sort of like the inevitability of death. But so the concept for these new shows and I just want to talk a
Starting point is 00:35:43 little bit more about this is to hear from you guys on these topics and to kind of talk about my experience and Brian's experience, some of these things. But also, like, I want to talk about, at some point, and we're not going to do it right this second, but what we're going to do for the next one, because one of the things we did not do that well in the first episode was spend time having some conversation about ideas for the next experience, and I've got some ideas of things that I want to do, and I know that Brian, you've got some things on your list But that's just something to think about as you're potentially calling in yeah call in but You know, I think that I think that like one of the things I've discovered is
Starting point is 00:36:16 It's funny you mentioned by dysmorphia before because I do feel like I have a kind of bad opinion of I don't know everybody thinks they look terrible, right? I think if you don't think that, then people don't like you anyway. Like I don't know what it's like to look in the mirror and go like, you are fucking hot. Like I can't imagine, I can't imagine the idea of looking in the mirror and just going like,
Starting point is 00:36:39 wow, you're so fucking hot. Because I think no matter what you are, you kind of feel like you're either average or below average. I even had a clue. I know everyone says this is working, but I know I poop. Do you know what I mean? But I'm just saying, but Heidi Klum must be aware. She, her beauty has been validated. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:36:56 But I like all the parties where she's like, without the makeup, I'm just a regular girl even though I'm not sure. But I think people who's good looks are validated on a regular basis probably feel I'm not saying they think people don't like them because that comes across when you talk maybe I know Heidi Clume is very lovely. I mean in my experience having appeared on late night with her. Oh, she's very nice. Go back and check it out. 2012. I don't actually know what year it was, but she was very nice. But she definitely is like, yeah, I'm pretty good looking. She's bad days, which is odd days, you know, let's get an expert to weigh in.
Starting point is 00:37:28 We've got Brandon from Austin, Texas here who works for a dermatologist. Is that right, Brandon? Okay. Yeah, on the side, I sure do work at a dermatology office. What do you mean on the side? Brandon, what do you mean on the side? I don't. Oh, as if I'm part time job. What do you mean on the side? I don't. Oh, as a part time job.
Starting point is 00:37:45 What do you do on the other time? I'm ruined. People skinned. I'm sorry. You're a mosaic artist. Yes, sir. Interesting. Cool.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Can you send us some links? I'd like to see some of that stuff after this. Yeah, I sure will. Okay. What's the best platform? I get you. Well, how is the best what's the best way? John Twitter?
Starting point is 00:38:04 I guess Twitter. I guess at us. Twitter. Yeah. Okay. uh... what what's the best platform uh... what's the best what's the best way john twitter i guess twitter i guess at us twitter yeah okay or in the at the outrun at yachta polski uh... at ryan hulahan and at outlining at me no not at melania truck does
Starting point is 00:38:16 that but you could also drop it in you you you to comment or face the comments or whatever that would be also be good but you had outlined at me at ryan hulahan so what what do you do with the current? Do you have any correct? Yes, it tells you about what you're going to say. Yeah, I just been educated. The main reason I wanted to work up there was to get educated on the current technology
Starting point is 00:38:36 and skincare. What I found is that in the prescription strength is the all-purpose best thing you can apply to your skin, but you have to be really careful about skin exposure after you apply it. You can't go out in the sun, right? You can't if you apply sunscreen. It's a vitamin A derivative and it super accelerates exfoliation and prevents epithelial scales from the sticking together, and that helps prevent clogging of the pores. But it has many benefits, especially this one.
Starting point is 00:39:10 But right now, Red Nay is what you get from Michael Walgreens or CBS, it's a brand name, but the truck name is Trudin Owen. Can you just... It's all the same thing, they're different names. Can you, so Red Nay now, you can just buy like, at a drug store. You don't need to have prescription for it.
Starting point is 00:39:27 No, you do need a prescription. That's the one I buy on the shelf. It's not really strong enough to do anything. You want to get at least a point 1%. So I use that. I use retinae and I've used it for prescription. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For acne and then eventually when I was getting a...
Starting point is 00:39:43 You get a pump or the tube. I use a tube and they told me You switch over to the pump. Oh really? Oh really switch over to the pump Switch over to the pump because every time you open the tube It's exposed to the air and oxidizes a little bit and you might notice when you get to the end of your into your tube It's a little more yellow than the first time you used it and the stuff in the pump is never exposed to the oxygen, so it's, it never is diminished in its effectiveness. Even retinae is aging.
Starting point is 00:40:11 I know, the irony is, the exposure to the alibis. The tube, you have to, right, every time you open the tube it's exposed to the oxygen that literally does. If you just leave the cream out, it turns it yellow and it diminishes its effectiveness. Switch over to the pump. Well, thank you for that. That's great. I mean, this to me is like, you know, if you got a choice between tube or pump, pump, always pump. That's why, I mean, that's why I call it the light. Yeah, it's a little harder to find. Yeah, some of our customers have to, depending
Starting point is 00:40:41 on the insurance, have to, we have to like send the facts of prescription to a Canadian pharmacy and it's cheaper for them to order from Canada. It would be to pay out of pocket for non-prescription. The whole ancient. The American health here is the American. You know what? Exactly. You know what? I bet all the Canadians have all like on a per capita. They have better skin than Americans. I mean, they're also in less sun exposure. They do a lot of poutine, so you have to eat. Oh yeah, I should like get it back to our earlier caller,
Starting point is 00:41:13 you know, that fried food. Well, thank you for calling in Brandon. Yeah, Brandon, that's great. That's those are great tips. Thank you so much. The other thing I get from my dermatologist, and I'm totally up front about this, is I do take propitia because I was beginning
Starting point is 00:41:24 to lose my hair and I'm thin. it working and it worked like but it doesn't Agents grow it doesn't regrow So a mine three filled in where it was getting thinner really but it didn't move forward See I have like a thin patch up here and I'm like very I have a lot of anxiety about it And I'm just like I'm like I'm just gonna get fucking plugs like Like I don't even give a, they have to also transplant or plug. And when I decide it's bad enough, I'm just gonna be like, do whatever you gotta do up here. Matt is calling in from LA and he actually
Starting point is 00:41:53 I just talked about balding. I just left a ton of math. Let's get Matt, let's get, get him on right now. What do you know about balding? Talk to us. Hey, how's it going? Great show so far. I'm a big fan from the five minutes. I've been streaming on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Wow. Great. Thank you. Congratulations, guys. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I don't know on what, but we appreciate that. For our skincare routine. Having great skin. Exactly. So, uh, so I am a bald man. I actually know you Josh when I used to have hair. Um, we were involved in a recording endeavor in Brooklyn, New York in about 2006.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I want to know what project was this? Sorry to break it to you, but I don't have hair anymore. What project was that? A little band called Terradactyl. Yeah, great, great, great track. I love that record. No hair and Teradactyl. Oh, yeah. It's great, great band. Great tracks. I love that record. No hair on Teradactyls either. Well, that record too.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Yeah. Teradactyls did not, I think they had feathers though, didn't they? Yeah. Feathers, everything had feathers. All right, so what's going on with you? You're bald now? What happened? No feathers though.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I'm bald now, yeah. I'm sorry to burst the bubble, but I am, yeah. It's just terrible. How do you feel about it? Yeah, what's the feeling? You know, I'm pretty much at peace with it. I just noticed something recently where like when I meet people, I don't know already who asked my age and I tell them on 37, they think I'm like screwing with them like I couldn't possibly be that old and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:43:25 they think you're younger? I don't you believe my age. Yeah, they think I'm younger. Wow. Like do they think that I was born bald and I've never had here and they just don't think about the fact that I'm bald? Yeah. Or do they think I like dress really inappropriately for my age?
Starting point is 00:43:38 Well, that's really interesting. I mean, I would imagine you'd say like, oh, people always think I'm older because you associate. But there is the power bald thing where when someone goes bald and they own it and they're okay with it, I would imagine you'd say like, oh, people always think I'm older because you associate. But there is the power ball thing where when someone goes bald and they own it and they're okay with it, there is an aura about a man who is powerballed that like Vin Diesel, you could tell me Vin Diesel is 25 and I'd be like, I could see it.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Interesting. Do you feel like you're a powerball? Is that how you describe your ball does power as a powerful source of power? I mean, that is the first time I've heard that term and it's definitely making me feel more powerful. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, channel chief, but only I think the thing about baldness is like a state of mind. Like, I feel like there are guys who seem bald and they're bald. Oh, I definitely, I have got a gay George Costanza thing going on and I would definitely like to see. But then there
Starting point is 00:44:20 are people just own it, just own the reality and they're like, fuck this. Like, I'm just doing my thing. And I think that does create a different perception. Like in some ways, you're in a better place if you're bald, because you're over it. You don't want the fucking halfway, you don't want this thing over here. The right David. I'm definitely receiving.
Starting point is 00:44:39 I've thought about Prapisha. Yeah, it's torture, man. So do you shave at all? Or are you just like, is it just all gone? Sometimes I do, like, I have like the horseshoe, you know? Yeah, but you shave the horseshoe. And like, for a long time, I was doing kind of like the sort of windswept comb over and the sort of bald guy mullet and that kind of stuff. But all of that is tough.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And I will tell you as an expert, a man is much more attractive if he's just whatever he is. Yeah. Yeah. That, like, if you're just like, this is what it is, I don't even think about it. It's not even a calculation. But if you look like you're compensating for something, all I can think is like, wow, something must really be wrong.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Yeah, I do think that there's just a, and maybe that's a lesson for larger and aging. If you just are what you are, yeah. I don't know. I mean, there's definitely like, I maybe that's a lesson for larger and aging, if you just are what you are? Yep. I don't know. I mean, I will say there are definitely people who with like the baldness thing with age seem to own it in a way that they turn it into a weapon. Yeah, you know, age becomes a weapon
Starting point is 00:45:41 for the use against people to, like Helen Mirren. To beat them with. Yeah, I mean, Helen Mirren kind of like, Oh, Helen Miran, absolutely. I guess she's like, I'm wise and I've got great breasts. Yeah, and you're like, wow, and talented. Yeah, she's very talented. But yeah, I mean, I think this is so you don't, does the, does baldness like make you uncomfortable? Does it make you feel like do you get, um, is there a secret society of bald men?
Starting point is 00:46:04 You guys give each other a way? Well, I mean, I do want to hear about the secret society, but I also want to like like do you get um... is there a secret society of bald men you guys give each other what was it? I mean I do want to hear about the society but I also want to like do you get do you feel self-conscious like in a room full of people who are bald i mean i it takes a certain amount of maintenance for me to have it at a length that i that i feel comfortable with like it
Starting point is 00:46:21 if it gets too long and like the outline gets to accentuated, then I feel a little subconscious. You know what? You know what? You get pretty close to the skin. I have an optimal length. I don't really like the skin head look and I don't really like, you know, the full, the full horseshoe. So it's sort of a maintenance question. That's an interesting. You have an interesting thing about that much. You have an interesting problem. It's like now people are like, what
Starting point is 00:46:43 the fuck's up with this skinhead? What's this guy doing here? Some kind of alt-right? Yeah, I will say it depends on what your pattern is. Because if you've got completely balled at the top, don't let's double come in. But if you got a little up there, you could like, stubble it out. It really depends on, I guess, it's like a fingerprint. Do you have anybody mistaking for a neo-nazi or an alt-right guy?
Starting point is 00:47:02 Has it ever happened? No, never. I think I just, you know, I'm not that threatening, you know, I don't have a very threatening physique to fit that look, I guess. You don't, you don't wear like swastikas. You don't wear like swastikas. No, no, I stay away from those guys. I think you should get plugs, but just in the shape of a swastika right in the back.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah, yeah, that's really good. I cover it with a kippa really screw people up Just pull the fucking yabaka off of this was got well Matt. Do you have any suggestions for us to do next week? Where we need we need yeah, while we have you so with what should we be doing next for the next week? You can make Josh do anything and I could basically do it's like an eat you know Okay, be eat to eat in some way go to do something could be like In case I down engage with somebody in some way get engaged. Wow. That is. I mean, I just looked on my cell phone and thought I was like, Hey, I know that guy. And he's streaming live. I know nothing about the show. Yeah. I loved your conversation from the few minutes
Starting point is 00:48:01 I heard. That's great. Thank you. I think just keep I'm a fan. I'll tune in whatever you're doing. All right. All right. What a good we're gonna I'm gonna want to hear feedback on the next show, but this is this is great. This is super informative like really interesting to think about because there is this thing like and thank you for the call and thank you for the great record. Everybody should I mean I'll I'll we'll put a link in. So we're going to tear it back to record. It's, I mean, it'll sound crazy because it's like music from 2006. But it's interesting to think about all of the ways that you can be fucked up about how you look. Yeah. Right? Like, there's just so many variables.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Well, you can be super handsome and have bad acting or like super handsome, but be balled. It'd be like, oh, no matter what you are specifically, there is another extreme that's super hot. And you're like, why don't I have that thing? So it's like, why don't I have a big butt? Why aren't I thin? Why aren't I have abs? Why don't I, you know, why am I too hunkered? I will say this.
Starting point is 00:48:52 I don't, I never feel that way. I'm never like, I wish I had. I wish I had, I wish I had anything. It's like my teeth are fucked up. And like I never got braces. That's easily fixable. No, I'm not fucking with that now. I mean, I barely can even get to a dentist.
Starting point is 00:49:05 But, you know, like I just feel like I could have done a much better job. I mean, they're not bad. Like they're not falling out or anything. They're just crooked. I feel like I feel a huge success if for like a few minutes a day, I'm like, I'm proud of what I have going on.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I usually don't feel like that. I think you're a very handsome man. But I will say the older I get. I got great, great eyebrows. Oh, thank you. Great, great smile. Oh, thank you great smile Just do you want what are you doing? I do think the older I get the more I do feel comfortable like being like I like what I got That's how dad's very slow that's how dad bought happens that's lucky
Starting point is 00:49:42 That's it. It's like you know fuck it. I mean look where I'm at like the pool and I'm like yeah, you know what? I've got? Like, what are we gonna do? Although I will say this, I've lost like, in the last month, and by the way, being sick, unbelievable way to lose weight. You want to lose weight, get sick. I mean, like, not really sick. I mean, like a cold. It is. Go to the hospital and get some. Yeah, just get like the flu.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I don't get the flu, it's very bad. But, but like, in the last month, I've lost like 15 or 16 or 17 pounds or something. Wow. Yeah, well it turns out like if you just all in dead skin, this shetty, this outer layer, thanks Koreans, good care. No, but like yeah, I've just been eating like a normal person and I'm never super hungry and I'm never super full. But like I feel, I do feel so much better.
Starting point is 00:50:26 And I also feel so much more in control of my emotions and myself and for the most part, I mean, I got days, don't get me wrong. But it's crazy. And I do think I've been carrying around a bunch of fucking extra weight for no good reason except that I was too lazy to pay attention on what I was eating. Well, speaking of things that make you gain weight
Starting point is 00:50:44 and lose control of your life, we've got Michael from Rolanda here to talk about cannabis-based products. Okay. Michael? Michael, what, tell us about your sponsored content you're about to do for us. Yeah, so in terms of one of the secrets to anti-aging and wrinkles and things like that, anti-aging and wrinkles and things like that. I would say cannabis is a, you know, an often overlooked method of obtaining that goal. Really? Trust and things like that. Well, it's certainly a stress reliever, but it's also a carcinogen,
Starting point is 00:51:20 I mean, if you smoke it, right Oh no, no, no, no. If you ingest the edible form, which is known as 11 hydroxy THC, as opposed to the commonly used 9 hydroxy THC, it's actually significantly more psychoactive. And when used intermittently, it's been shown to increase cognition. There's several Israeli studies that have shown this.
Starting point is 00:51:45 And a lot of people, you know, they're stressed out a lot of times. And at the end of the day, you decide if you want to get stressed out and you look at people that are miserable, you know, 45, 50 years old. And they just kind of have that like resting bitch-based syndrome, you know. And people that use cannabis, I just noticed that they age gracefully. You can't fight aging and wrinkles and things like that. But they're going to have to be memorable. So you're saying it's better to be relaxed. It's better to be relaxed. Yeah. And accept that you're going to age. Obviously stay out of the sun.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Yeah. You can. That's true. Suns are killing. Absolutely. And when you use these, you know, retinets and some of these other resberatrol, there is not a lot of, and a lot of these things are pushed by the pharmaceutical industry here in the United States. Big farm. And I don't rest the big time. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:42 And, you know, you got to look at these types of things like who, you know, the track record and a lot of these, I don't know if you've used retina, but your skin becomes addicted to it similar to some other commonly marketed products. Yeah, this is like one of those, this is one of those things that I worry about with all skin care where it's like, you know, you use it enough and it's like, oh, now I need to just like keep my face moisturized when your face should, you think at least should be able to maintain some balance of moisture. But then we are dealing with like pretty harsh, like if you live in work in New York and you're in the city all day and there's like crazy dust and dirt and whatever, like wind blowing up,
Starting point is 00:53:19 like you do have to find some way to balance that out. I don't know if weed will do the job on its own, although I am very interested in the idea of my skincare routine being getting super fucking high. Like how do you take care of your skin? I'm like, oh, I get extremely stoned every day. Well, thank you for your call, Michael. I actually do agree to some extent that when I was working
Starting point is 00:53:38 a job that wasn't what I wanted to do, or like a lifestyle that I didn't want, I was working at a media company, but not doing what I wanted to do. And I was working in a schedule that didn't work for me. You can say what it was, it was. I didn't want. I was working at a media company, but not doing what I wanted to do. And I was working in schedule that didn't work for me. You could say what it was. I worked at MTV. You worked at TMZ.
Starting point is 00:53:49 And you was. And it's a failing network for a reason. And so I worked there and it was tough. And I will say I quit. And three months later, everyone said to me, like, you look like a completely different person. And I think the level of just stress and forcing yourself into where you're stressed out. So you go to lunch and you get a bunch of e to a bunch of garbage
Starting point is 00:54:07 because you want to get a pick me up. And I think it's got to be a combination between lifestyle, what you eat, what you use. Gabby from this actual company. Yeah, Gabby. Gabby Delvier. Is she on the phone? Yeah, Gabby, can you hear us?
Starting point is 00:54:23 Oh boy, Gabby, what's going on? Nope, not on the phone. Gabby. Can she on the phone? Yeah, Gabby, can you hear us? Oh boy, Gabby, what's going on? Nope, not on the phone. Gabby. You guys hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Hi, Gabby. How are you? Hello.
Starting point is 00:54:33 So, I'm good. How are you? I'm good. So I have a question about skin care. If I have a combination skin, and not a ton of money, spend on my skin, what's the hell do I buy? Perfect. Are you? I want it to look like a baby face my skin. What the hell do I buy? Perfect.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Are you? I want it to look like a baby face. Okay, but you I've seen your face. It's pretty baby-ish. I've got the recommendations. I just want to say like I have an unfair advantage here by saying that like I don't know what you could do to make your face look more youthful. Here's what I got. I think it would be dangerous.
Starting point is 00:55:02 I'm going to plug it again. The ordinary products. Okay. Don't keep plugging these fucking, but if you want, if you have a combination skin, are you looking to get rid of acne or for anti-aging or both? Um, I think I just want it to be very soft. Okay. Um, also like clear.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Okay. I would recommend and you don't have to get it from any particular. I, you don't have to get it from any particular brand. You don't have to get it from any particular brand, but I would say nice, synomide is an ingredient that I really like. And if you have combination skin, an oil, I use this rose hip seed oil, but there's also squalene or squalene oil.
Starting point is 00:55:37 There's a difference, I don't know what it is. But I would use an oil because an oil on your face will stop your face from producing oil, but also give oil to places that are true I feel like that's gonna be instant break out. Nope it changed my whole life. Wait what's that Gabby? Okay I'm supposed to put oil on my face. Are you walking? Are you like walking on your with like out in public with your phone right now? I'm walking to the L train. Yeah. Okay wow. You put oil on your face but you put it on last. All right because it's oil lock and oil. What do you use Ryan? Rosehip oil is a face, but you put it on last. All right, because it's a oil lock. What do you use, Ryan?
Starting point is 00:56:05 Rose hip oil is a little thicker, but you can use less of it. Squalline or squalline oil is really light, and it feels really like soft on the skin, but you have to use a whole bunch, so I don't really. Gabby, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a quick question. You say you get combination skin.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Is it like all over combination, or are there certain zones that are one way or the other? Another zone. Okay, Tell me about your zones. I would say my cheeks are pretty dry. My forehead is a little oily, and my nose is a little oily. Yes, that's my, I'm like, I got the oiliest fucking nose. It's like huge and oily. It's like huge and oily.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Why would this go? Why would God do this? I'm going to take the chips off my nose? Please that's disgusting. Yeah, I'll put it on. Do you have anything for poor minimizing? Okay, so I did describe a little earlier on, but there if you have subacious filaments to use a clay mask, BHA, AHA acid, and an oil cleanser.
Starting point is 00:57:00 You two have tiny pores. I'm just looking at you right now. I mean, I don't know what you've got going on here. You can actually shrink your pores. you can make them look a little smaller Yeah, that's what we all make up a silicone based primer will will blur all of that This is crazy, and I mean like I'm looking at me. I look like a regular sweaty human And I look over at Ryan and he's like a CGI character. You gotta trust it. You got a good way You gotta trust the brand. It's like jar jar binks, and then Anakin
Starting point is 00:57:25 I'm sorry for hugging all your time but I have one more question. Yes, sure. Of course. Charcoal. Is it all hype? Where is it good? Charcoal, I've found, doesn't do a ton for me. I think it's hyped, especially it's put in a lot of products.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I've found that it's not really doing what it's supposed to be doing, but it in comparison to like a clay mask, it's the same thing for me. But if you're going to the drug store, you're going to find a lot of stuff that's like, it's got charcoal in it. And it's kind of like when you, when, when, when, uh, di-pepsi changed from aspirin to another sweetener, it doesn't really make a difference. Char- charcoal to me feels very goopy. Like the charcoal thing.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Like it's a goop situation. So I- When it's pal-cho or goopy is in the substance. No, like goop like with a very good situation. So I don't know what I think it's a very good thing. It's a good situation. So I don't know what I think it's a good thing. It's a good situation. So I don't know what
Starting point is 00:58:12 I think it's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:58:20 It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. I'm going to have to go to the next week. I'm going to have to go to the next week. I'm going to have to go to
Starting point is 00:58:28 the next week. I'm going to have to go to the next week. I'm going to have to go to the next week. I'm going to have to go to the next week. I'm going to have to go to
Starting point is 00:58:36 the next week. I'm going to have to go to the next week. I'm going to have to go to the next week. I'm going to have to go to the next week. I'm going to have to go to
Starting point is 00:58:44 the next week. I'm going to have to go to the next week. I'm going to have to you on the L train. I hope it's not a swarm of terrible Williamsburg people. I'm just going to pause for a second and I wanted to provide evidence that you eat that I might look fine, but you once stood next to someone who does objectively look amazing. That's you and Heidi Cooke. I look great there. Look how skinny you are. No, I meant Jimmy Fallon. Exactly. He does.
Starting point is 00:59:01 His skin's incredible. I'm going to eat you. You get up close to that skin. NBC 3D prints it every night. It's incredible. It's incredible. Wow, that's surreal looking. That looks like fucking CGI. That whole scene looks like he was created by an algorithm. You're punching your punching in on that. That's great. Oh, yeah. Look at that. It does look really good. I mean, look at that. You're going, okay. Punch over to Josh. Would you? Let's see the job Jimmy's using on this. Yeah, that's that note. was really good. Look at that. You're going, okay. Punch over to Josh, would you? Let's see the Josh. Jimmy's using on his seat.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Yeah, that's the no CGI there. Oh God. You can see kind of how bad my teeth are in that shot. You can sort of get an idea. Look at, look how young I was so full of life. How old were you there? I mean, it's like from five years ago or something? Six years ago.
Starting point is 00:59:38 But don't you look at that and think like this guy doesn't even know how good it's gonna get. No. Sometimes I look at younger man, I think. Yeah, he looks, I mean, it's tight and it's right and that guy was thin, but I also look at it and think, I don't think I know any there. I'm not that much.
Starting point is 00:59:52 No, I met me. I look at me and think that. Can you please stop it? You can tell that we've got new star effects and a new handicap because it's just finding reason to see you. This is good stuff right here. Thank you everybody. We go to Heidi.
Starting point is 01:00:04 We go to Heidi. I want to see, look at that perfection. Those bangs, incredible. Wonderful. I remember 2000, you're either in or out, you're out. Heidi's in. I don't know what that means. I assume it's a reference to a show that she's in. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:17 All right. I think we got one more caller. One more caller. We got a wrap up. Jeremy from Little Rock has been hanging in there. Jeremy, you better have an idea for the next show, too. Let's hear it Jeremy last time Hey, Jeremy
Starting point is 01:00:37 Yes Yeah, so I wanted to I Yeah, so I wanted to I waited tables for 20 years Okay and I used Gold bond All right, let's keep Jeremy. I'm sorry. He sound
Starting point is 01:01:03 Dangerously stoned right now. Yeah, totally. I am. All right. Well, thank you for your call, Jeremy. I think you're going to go somewhere really bad. A really good. For Jeremy, we waited 40 minutes to mumble at us about gold. I feel bad. Did he wait 40 minutes? Yep. No wonder he sounded so tired.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I just like that was a call. You heard our cannabis or recommendation early on he said I better get a jump on it and Jeremy let me apologize Maybe that you're about to say something amazing, but it also felt like you could say something horrible And I think that it's just feel like it was a little buffalo bill so that you yeah, it was like Put the lotion. Yeah, he's a good skin. Jerry's better be like and it calls in again. Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me You know, it's like it was not gonna go to a good place. I think you a big fat host You know, I fuck me, you know, it's like it was not gonna go to a good place, I think you're a big fat host You know a little God in heaven
Starting point is 01:01:47 All right, well, I think we should wrap up. Yeah, let's wrap up Yeah, what we don't we don't know what we're doing. We're doing next week and I'll be honest with you guys You really are not bringing the goods, you know, are we doing palm? I have so little push for this palm I don't know. Can we do something less in totally invasive in my life? But I would like it would be such a piece of my life. I need a piece of my life, not all of it. Are you gonna keep doing the skincare? You know, that's a great question. I have a prediction for your answer that I already told people.
Starting point is 01:02:14 On the one hand is the answer is yes, because I think it kind of, you know, maybe feel pretty good and it's nice to pamper yourself. On the other hand, it's like, I'm very lazy and I don't really wanna put any extra time into anything if I can help it. It's like buying a gym membership. You're like, it would be great if I did this. Oh, listen, I'm about to, you know, join equinox and never, ever go. I mean, I did do that. I'm moments away from an expensive equinox commitment that I can't for. I did do that.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And I told the people there, like, if you don't let me cancel I'm just gonna cancel my debit card and I'll disappear into the And they said will you pay one more month and I said yes, that's what they want they got that one month out of you I don't know we don't know what we're gonna do and I'll do it. We're gonna do I will do a poll last week You said we're gonna do a poll we didn't we didn't do a poll we do a fucking poll this time This is like Trump's democracy. No, we got to really let people look I This is a lot like a Trump regime here. Terri, really, bronze, swampie environment for the worst of the worst. That's how I described tomorrow with Josh, with Paul's gig. All right. I think we got to wrap up, right? Yeah. Any parting thoughts on the, on the, on this, whatever the fuck we've been talking
Starting point is 01:03:23 about. I say, do little bits of skincare for five minutes a day now and Devoid the problems later. That's with my conclusion. It seems like maybe good or bad advice I don't really know because this could all be a bunch of bullshit, but we don't know for sure Is your clinical study about about this stuff? Like I want to know there is We know it actually does anything to do that doesn't have a chance of working, this has a chance of working.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Doesn't, I don't know. It's a cream. Certainly is a cream. You're putting stuff on your feet. Do you skin felt better? That's where it fits for me. It's definitely is an ointment. All right, so tune in next week.
Starting point is 01:03:58 If Josh looks older and I look younger, you can definitely rub it. You can definitely rub this all over your face. There's no question about that. And I do think the rubbing is a big part of a fact. Yes. I'm going like this on my eyes, and all of a sudden my eyes feel more lively. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I think it's because I'm also massaging, getting the cells moving. I think it's used to run stuff in. I'm up. There are cheap options. It's fully in. So I've shown you some cheap options. This eye cream right here from Amazon is like 10 bucks. I'm getting me here.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I'm getting the toxins out, which is a bullshit term. I mean, rubbing out the, you know, the, you know, the, what are the things called? The fattens getting the fattens working. Are we going to do Scientology next week? I don't know. Let's see how I feel. All right. We're going to vote if you want Scientology or Prompere you support me.
Starting point is 01:04:43 You got to be like, Paul and Pre Scientology or Prompere you support me. Yeah, I'd be like palm-prey Scientology Any other votes are I guess fast and furious all eight fast and furious So I never be so waiting for Something we're doing the ending music well up. That's our show for this week. We back in two weeks with more tomorrow And as always I wish you and your family the very best though I've just been told that your family's been using an exfoliant, and it's not made from what they think it's made from. you you

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