Tomorrow - 105: Being thankful
Episode Date: November 21, 2017It’s been a rough year. The world is in turmoil, every man is a harasser, and Tom Petty is dead. But still, in the midst of it all, there are things to be thankful for. So this week we’re talking ...about thanks. What does it mean to be thankful? What's new that we can look forward to? What glimmer of hope can we cling to in these dark times? We unpack all of this, and take your calls about what you're thankful for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey, and welcome to tomorrow.
I'm your host, Josh, with Tupulski. We've been as always right in Hoolham. Hey, and welcome to tomorrow.
I'm Josh, which is Paul Skate.
We've been as always right in Hoola Ham.
So we decided we had all these ideas for doing a show this week
and then I was like, oh, it's the show right before Thanksgiving
and I thought the world is so horrendously disgusting.
It's pretty bad.
It's so bad.
It's pretty.
You got to thrash every couple of minutes.
There's a thrash being thrown at you.
You know, I don't know if anybody knows what I'm talking about.
Glenn Thrash, he's a reporter for the New York Times, did some sex harassment. Yeah. Turns out he's a throsh being thrown at you. You know, I don't know if anybody knows what I'm talking about. Glenn Thrush, he's a reporter for The New York Times,
did some sex harassment.
Yeah, turns out he's a sex monster like everyone else.
Everyone's a sex monster.
Like I get it, I get it.
You know, every once have sex.
Yeah, well, listen, it's totally understandable.
I generally want to have sex.
I've never taken it that step.
I've never taken it, never taken it to there.
Let me be clear.
It's unacceptable. I'm saying I understand every once have sex. Yeah, it to there. Let me be clear. It's unacceptable.
I'm saying I understand everyone wants to have sex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you've got to know the right time and the right place and the right moves.
Yeah.
Okay.
Those aren't the moves.
Those are not the moves.
They're just not.
Anyhow, listen, it's a dark time in America.
It's dark time in the world.
And we were talking about what we should do.
And I was like, why don't we do a show that is upbeat and positive and feel good? My suggestion
was we do another bandage, which is my personal brand, upbeat, positive and feel good.
People are always like, that's Josh Topolsky or DeScibe. And so we decided because it's
on the e-bore on the e-bore close to the e-bore Thanksgiving that we talk about things
that we're thankful for and things that are good in the world. Yeah. Because there
are some things that are good. A couple. Yeah. Because there are some things that are good.
A couple.
The dollar cone, the free, that dollar ice cream cone at McDonald's, that's good.
The dollar cone is what?
You can go into McDonald's.
So that you can go into McDonald's if the machine is running.
It's not often running.
But if it is, jackpot.
It's a dollar, it tastes delicious.
Yeah.
There's like a hundred calories.
It crushes it.
It changes my day.
How many weight watchers points?
I don't know.
Okay, now he's really loud and I'm really quiet
is what happened.
Ryan's loud.
Josh is volume, I'm thankful for the volume slider.
Turn me out, turn him down.
There we go.
Let me hear your voice.
Hello.
This is great.
This is a work in progress.
I want you guys to, this is like a dogma 95 film.
Okay, it's all natural.
Okay, it's, oh there it is, look at that.
Oh, look at that.
I just wanna clarify.
Chef's cast.
No one here-
Like compliments to the chef.
No one here works for McDonald's,
no one here's paid by McDonald's.
I wish.
You know what I like is the Frosty?
Do they still do the Frosty card?
Where you can buy a,
I don't know. You can get like the little mini-frosty. They recently started doing vanilla Frost can buy a i don't know you get like a little bit of the start doing vanilla frosties which i
didn't know it's just why would they do that's disgusting it's basically mashed sweet mashed potatoes
uh but so we want to tell me that the if you ever open up a frosty machine at a
when these so they're usually filled with cockroaches uh i believe it because they go in
for the warmth listen you open up my floor boards are probably full of cockroaches. Not in the part where the frosty comes from.
Yeah, in the mechanical areas.
No, yeah, like the mechanical reasons.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Anyway, cockroaches isn't going to hurt you.
No, you could survive off of cockroaches.
Yeah, cockroaches, I think, are a symbiotic thing from caves.
Anyway, we're getting off top of it.
Something I'm thankful for, the existence of cockroaches
and how edible they can be if you're on fear factor.
If you're on fear factor and or it's the apocalypse.
Sure.
And there's nothing else that you just can't purchase.
And yeah, so here's what we want to do.
We want to talk about stuff that doesn't suck,
stuff to be thankful for.
And we want you guys to call in and tell us about it.
Yeah, tell us things you're thankful for, please.
Let's start with, let's start with you, Ryan.
Yeah.
Tell me some things that you feel are good and or
that you're thankful for.
By the way, thanks giving, pretty fucked up holiday,
it's foundations, but as a meal, very good.
Oh my God.
Even as a vegetarian.
Even as a vegetarian, you are set.
So much to eat.
So much.
I mean, Laura makes these spinach balls.
They're like bread crumbs, cheese, and spinach turn into like a fry.
So like a frite, like a parmesan.
Okay.
Excellent.
So good.
It's like the kind of thing you eat like 14 of before the meal,
and then you feel so sick and full when the meal comes.
It's one of those things that would be good year round
as opposed to the things that are only good at Thanksgiving.
This is, this is, you want back,
I mean, I'm not that bad.
He don't want to be here.
Back at Spanish balls, like always at arms length.
Yeah.
That's how I would do it.
Anyhow, but I'm thankful for Toe Furkey
because that turns the whole meal around for me.
I like the Toe Furkey.
I do like it tasted.
It's not bad.
Honestly, I've, I could eat half of one of those ball by myself.
Boom.
Is there any way I could get a drink in here of any type?
I mean, it's Thanksgiving.
Yeah, I'd be thankful for somebody to bring me a diet coke.
I don't know.
I'm not a picky person.
No, you'll take anything with bubbles.
Diet coke with some lemon shavings.
Lemon shavings.
Some lemon-
Relatable.
Rhyne to shavings.
I'm thankful for Thanksgiving food.
Coke and that sugar on the side.
I'm thankful for the fact that my family gets together,
even if we don't all like each other,
we get together.
Tell me about the socks.
Let's talk about this.
You're from Long Island.
Yeah.
Also known as Strong Island.
Yeah, capital of the world.
Capital of the world. Again, what, again, no sponsorship here,
but we do love a die coke.
You're from Long Island.
Tell me about your family.
So my dad has eight brothers and sisters, counting steps.
Oh, shit.
And my mom has seven.
Which one is Irish?
My dad's side is Irish.
What are the airquads for?
Well, when we...
Look at that.
There's some controversy.
When we trace the anthems...
And the story...
Let's see if hold on.
Go ahead, I'm listening.
There's like one guy a while ago
and the rest were English, so hard to say.
We got the name, though.
Although I will say my family members,
this drives me nuts.
Anyone who's super into their heritage drives me nuts
because my first off, you're American.
You have no connection to Ireland.
Okay.
And second, a lot of my family members get like Celtic tattoos and learn to speak gay
lick and go on trips.
And there's like one great, great, great, great.
That's right.
I'm getting a big gay lick tattoo down my back.
A piece.
Big gay lick.
And it's lucky charms.
Lucky charms.
All mel-
All my trellis.
I was like, you see an elf, he's a leprechaun charms. All mel- All my trellis.
I was like, you see an elf, he's a leper cone, obviously.
All the way down my back.
I always find that suspicious.
So you go out to Long Island and, uh, does everybody get along?
Well, okay.
So my dad's side of the family is constantly at war over completely petty things, but that's
not really what they're fighting about.
They fought once about a turkey at my, um, grandpa's funeral. And it was like, I think we're fighting about. They fought once about a turkey at my grandpa's funeral.
And it was like, I think we're fighting about
our sadness over grandpa time.
What was it like specifically like?
All right.
Like who gets the turkey for?
So my aunt brought a turkey to eat for dinner.
Is this story bad because you don't have to tell me.
No, it's good.
Okay.
They brought a turkey that eat for dinner.
And then my grandma cried and said,
we're all eating separately.
Let's put all our meals together and just get together. So we did. My dad moved to Turkey
from one counter to another counter. And the entire family started fighting over who took
who's food and who's hijacking the dinner for their own emotional purposes. And they're all
texting slurs at each other and throwing drinks. And it was like, and this has gone on.
This has gone on for like four years. So, so this is a lot of animosity,
a lot of anchor at your Thanksgiving.
But we all get together.
But see, we don't have that.
We actually have done for the last few years
a very large Thanksgiving that we host, very large,
like 25 people.
Yeah.
I think when you have that,
that's a lot of people you diffuse all possible. Yeah.
Because you can leave. Someone looks at you and they say, you know, Hillary's tied to Russia.
You go, great. Have someone like not. Yeah, do so much. But also, I don't think I know anybody who
thinks like that. Oh, well, you're like, I don't think anybody in my family who thinks like that.
You have something to be thankful for. I do. Yeah, I am thankful for that. Nobody's like, there's no
crazy uncle who's like 9-11 was an inside job.
I mean, that would actually be rational now.
We have like, in the infowars, I don't know,
I'm gonna use a war's face.
We have my dad is, oh, Trump is most of our
interviewers know at this point,
but my uncle's like, a Republican,
but he thinks Trump's a little crazy.
And so we get into these faction debates.
You have people who voted for Trump in your family.
Quite a few on my dad's side. That's crazy to me.
Not on my mom's side.
I mean, I know less.
See, I don't know.
Do your dad vote for Trump?
Yes.
We got a huge, so I went home to visit him for my,
I got engaged.
Oh, congratulations.
Thank you.
That's a huge deal.
Yeah, that's great.
I'm excited.
Do we talk about this?
We haven't talked about this in a year.
I got engaged.
Great.
But I went home to visit my parents and we had dinner and we had agreed no politics.
I mean, I had looked across the pizza or whatever we were having and said, Hilary is worse
than Trump.
And I was like, okay.
And he starts going off on Uranium One and someone she had killed and then Gazi and
then it's fostered.
That's not real.
But this is what I'm thankful for.
We get together, we leave it aside.
It doesn't totally separate everybody all the time.
Right.
And that I think is something that you hold and you say,
like, oh, okay, we're trying.
Like this is a priority to all of us.
I mean, it's nice.
Yeah.
I guess.
I think it's nice.
It'd be hard for me to be, I guess I don't know.
You know, I guess would it be hard to, if my father voted for Trump, how would I feel?
I mean, I feel like he would have been doing it for the laws like I feel like it's possible.
My kid imagine my father doing something like that, but just to make everybody mad, not
because he believed in it.
I think, because my dad's kind of a, he called it kind of a little bit, not a huge troll.
My mother used to refer to him as the silent aggressor there.
I think so.
So, but yeah, I guess I can be thankful
for not having to deal with any of that shit
for the most part.
You know, like, it seems very dark and horrible,
but I do think it's the world, I mean.
Yeah.
Not everything, how's it Thanksgiving? But I do think,'s the world. I mean, not everything. How's it Thanksgiving?
But I do think, first off, the year's ending. So 2017's almost over. I think that's a big deal. Yeah. I mean, this has been a bad year, but getting done with this year. I remember thinking last
year, like that was really bad. Yeah. No, 2016 looks like. Blue it out of the bottom. Like,
you died, David Bowie. Did he die in 2013? I would do it again.
I wish I could get David Bowie die again.
Yeah.
To remind me how good 2016 was.
We got some good trippies out of it.
That's how it makes your sense.
2016 was a bad year 2017 was even worse,
but I think 2018 could be good.
So you're thankful for the future.
I'm thankful for the future that we have together.
Yeah.
Those of us who have not been killed by Trump's
foot soldiers.
But I think that I think it's really good to be able
to get together with your family
if they don't drive you completely insane.
And I love this time of year,
just having a party is fucking cool.
It's just nice to have some reason to get together
with people.
A bunch of people I know were like had this weekend
They were like they had like a friends giving which is a thing. Yeah, I know I didn't know this was a thing
This is like a very brunch. Yeah, it looks like a lot of people are doing it. Yeah
But it looked really nice. It's like it's used to have dinner with your friends. Yeah, that's a great fucking thing
And I think that we need more of that. I think we all need to be spending more time with each other
You do a thing at the holidays where you disappear off to play video games?
So I'm, so, okay, let's talk about, so video games are another thing that I'm very thankful
for right now.
Okay.
Because there's finally a couple of games that I really want to play.
What games?
Well, one is the new Wolfenstein.
Okay.
Or Wolfenstein.
I don't know.
I'm not steaming, right?
Steen, yeah.
Yeah, it's a very entertaining game.
It's actually got some parts that are very thought-provoking
and then it's got some parts that are extremely stupid.
Like all great acting games.
Yeah.
The Evil Within 2 is quite good.
I keep waiting for a game.
You know I have a switch.
Yeah.
And I have it literally in a drawer.
You haven't played Mario Odyssey?
No, I don't like games like that.
All right. I don't like kids. You're like Fafon or kids games. I don't like Mario Odyssey? No, I don't, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like games like that. All right, I don't like kids.
You're like for fun or for kids games.
Yeah, no.
I'm an adult.
No, I don't have a serious fucking man, okay?
I don't have a good time.
I need a game that's serious.
So like LA, Newark, just can't, is coming,
it just can't work.
Yeah, I'm very stoked.
But I'm stoked back because I didn't play it.
It's a good game.
Yeah.
I didn't finish it, so I never played it.
I think you maybe get that.
Like Doom, yeah.
I don't know, I don't wanna play Doom.
I don't like shooters. Like that's the thing about Wolfenstein. Here's a weird thing about Wolfenstein. I think you maybe get that. Like Doom. Yeah. I don't know. I don't wanna play Doom.
I don't like shooters.
Like that's the thing about Wolfenstein.
Here's a weird thing about Wolfenstein.
I have been playing it, and I'm like,
let me get through this action part
so I can hear more of the story.
I'm like very interested in the story of the game.
That was me with BioShock.
I like BioShock, and I enjoyed the gameplay,
but I felt very like, well, I can't wait to see
what the twist is.
BioShock has an amazing story.
Yeah.
Wolfenstein, I don't know how great it is,
but so far it's been great entertaining.
So I'm, and yes, and there's gonna be a period of,
first of all, okay, let me talk about some specific things
that I loved during this time of year.
Our house has a fireplace.
Okay.
So I learned to make a pretty good fire.
Mm-hmm.
I love making fires.
I mean, it's such a dumb guy thing in the fireplace,
not just like across town.
I'm a fire starter. Twisted fire starter. Do you understand what I'm saying? No, I understand.
Okay. No, I'm, I'm, Liam from the prodigy, who is that? Who's the singer in the,
that's all at the in the prodigy? His name is like, it's like Banksy, but it's not Banksy. It's like Twisty.
It's like, it's like, shock neck or something.
We're looking up.
What is the name of the guy with the spiky hair?
It's like spik from the proggy.
I got the names here.
Liam is the main guy.
Yeah, that's the main guy.
Keith Flint.
Keith Flint.
Max Flinty.
Yeah.
Maxim's another guy.
Wendy's a fire starter.
Eddie Hal. That's the fire starter. That's the firey. Maxim said another guy. Wendy's a fire starter. Eddie Hal.
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I'm thankful for puns for unintentional sex pun I've been getting the wood
Getting wood getting wood off the
Family gatherings of the rack with my bare hands
None of that work.
And I just realized, oh, it's so much easier with gloves.
That was a gloves on.
You're gonna feel like someone else is hand.
You're gonna get your hands full of wood.
You want to put your gloves on.
You're gonna put your gloves on.
Wrap it up every time is what I say.
Wrap your hands up that is.
Anyhow, this is a fucking nightmare.
So I love making fires in the fireplace.
Okay.
And just like, you know, it's like we're in it,
kind of peak cozy right now.
Yeah.
It's not snowing yet, but it's cold at night.
It's nice.
It's like you get inside.
You can snuggle.
You can, you crack open a bottle of your,
whatever alcohol you drink.
You're all good.
If you're sober, you, you know,
I don't know who sober people do, they just hang out, um, have a soda or whatever.
Um, and then you put on, uh, put on Wolfenstein.
Hmm.
That's not tonight.
Get a fire going, put on Wolfenstein.
Kill some Nazis.
Just blow some fucking Nazis.
I mean, there's some satisfying killing in that game. Yeah.
Now, I don't, by the way, I'm very anti-violence.
Sure.
But not this, this isn't.
No, this game is extremely...
No, but I'm saying this, that's not real.
It's not real.
But if there were real Nazis, what's there?
That may be fun to vote you.
I'm not advocating anybody.
But you should do it.
But no, but only if they're trying to kill you or hurt you. Okay.
Well, we have a question. Yes. We have a question. We do. Yes.
Well, from who? Someone has asked if it's a good idea or a terrible idea to come out within
the range of Thanksgiving, like come out as being gay of the closet of anything.
I've just come out for anything. Or whatever it is.
One of the things you might come out for, like being a Republican, sure, or being a Democrat.
Yeah. Or being, you know, like you voted for Gary Johnson.
Yeah. Or one of those people that don't like cilantro.
Well, I understand that cilantro is disgusting, but also good.
All right. Like cilantro has, there's two sides to every story that comes to cilantro.
I believe that cilantro is delicious. It's like L.A. Noire really, when you think about it,
you got to hear all the different sides to figure out.
Good cop, bad cop. Yeah.
Listen, I think it depends on your family.
Yes.
Yes.
I mean, it's like every drunk people are drinking, they're in good mood maybe depending on
the family.
You've got people kind of like lubricated.
I think you have to get.
He players on your side first because this is a strategy game like any other table talking
to you. I think you just straight up come out
You need like a sibling or you get a sibling parent parent. Yeah, or even a grandparent
Someone who's advocate for you, especially if you're not an argue. I have a mouth
I can yell at the table. You're wrong, but I never noticed that
Someone else might not have that get it get an advocate. You need an ally. It's a little white
Not like a woke ally, but is it? I definitely read it.
They were the one that led a bunch of myelopipo right
for the Americans.
Oh, yeah, that's bad.
They should shut it out.
Cut it out.
Cut it out.
I would buy out.
You guys.
That's okay.
Oh, no, they're owned by the same company.
Oh, fuck both of them.
It's no, they're fine.
I would say you want, I mean, of course, I don't know.
Did you come out to your family like in one go?
No, I did it in stages.
Who was first?
I was like 12.
Okay, who was first?
Um, first in my family was probably my dad.
Really?
Yeah.
You're Republican father.
Yeah, he's mostly good about that stuff.
He's good about social issues.
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Gay bars is the best.
We got our topic for next week.
Gay or straight,
Gay bars is the best place to go to hang out.
Yes.
It's the most chill.
Friendliest, best music is wonderful.
The best times I've ever had
jean trouts in New York have been a gay bar.
Drag queens are literally there to make your time fun.
There's no, there's no host parties.
There's no weird shit going on.
Here's what I'll say.
Get someone on your side.
Yeah. But thanksgiving. And if you want to's what I'll say, get someone on your side. Yeah.
I'm glad to Thanksgiving.
And if you want to do it in one go, I think now you can.
When I came out, it was like,
there was a lot of questions to answer.
I can't believe people are still coming out at this point.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm saying like, it's hard.
I mean, I get it, but like, I feel like it's like, come on.
Like, let's just move on.
Like, everybody needs to get comfortable
with this concept.
Yeah, I would say it's different.
It's harder. It's still pretty hard,
but I would say get someone on your side.
Also, straight up, if you drink in, it's dessert time.
You've got time to eat, but you can also leave.
You can leave whenever you want.
How's that the fun?
We are to leave during dinner.
Eat dinner.
So you eat, then you're doing your dessert.
Again, this is a strategy game.
You want to play the numbers.
Either anyway, I just want to adjust my volume.
Is there an adjustment in this room from my volume?
There used to be John, I need a yes or no from you.
Is it down here and what number is it?
In the meantime, I would say do it because you also,
oh, there's a dad from out of family.
You also get, and, and, no, that was the wrong dad.
Oh, that's the wrong dad.
There's a lot of dads on my family.
Hi. Okay. Can we get the right dad up from the it's the old dad with the football player who was on the
very children Ed O'Neill. Yes. This is name. I would say it's also a great time because you get to
come out to everybody at once. Yeah. You give them a month to call each other and gossip about
you. And then you get to either Hanukkah, Christmas or New Year's. And then you see them again and you can have that nice time,
the nice conversation about like, well, are you dating somebody? And that's what you
do that.
I mean, I'm going to take it from there. Yes. I'm going to take it from what's going on
with that image. I'm going to take it for Ryan on this one because I haven't had to come
out.
We're be coming out.
All right. We have a caller.
Wait, we got a caller.
Yeah, this is Christian.
And L.A. Christian L.A. Tell us what you're thankful for.
Hey, I'm thankful that this will be my first Thanksgiving
as a vegetarian.
Wow.
Yeah.
Do you want to try?
Do you want to know some tips and tricks?
Congratulations.
Absolutely.
Well, don't eat the turkey.
If you want to stick with the vegetarianism,
it's very hard around Thanksgiving.
I'll be honest with you. I'll probably cheat. I'll probably eat some turkey this Thanksgiving.
I'm going to fail you. You cheat your cheating vegetable. Yeah. I've had my indiscretions.
I don't know about that. That's not a good idea. Yeah. No, I'm not saying don't do that.
I'm weak. I'm a weak man and I'm mad at my family for raising me to eat meat. Is
a horrible thing? Is your plan like Italian food to Fergie?
Yeah, is there going to be a secondary dish because we actually had a conversation
about this and we are making one that's like the vegetarian on tray because you
because other love you'll do lasagna apparently which I didn't know there's a
thing. There's a lot of time. But do you know what you're going to be doing?
Oh, that's weird. Yeah, what's your strategy for food?
I'm not going home this year for Thanksgiving.
I'm going to stay here in LA. Good for you. I'm from New York also from LaGuardia.
I'm trying to go back. Oh, wow. You guys probably know each other.
It's possible. So wait, why did you go vegetarian?
Actually, so the tomorrow podcast is part of that because
a year and a half ago, I don't remember who you had to interview with,
but one of the guys you were talking to,
you were saying about how,
you were thinking about how your kid has all these animals,
like stuffed animals, the toys.
And then you could have seen your kid animals
and it's like really twisted.
And how you never really did the chicken
and how it gets grew on a bush.
Yeah, it's totally fucked up.
I mean, when I think about it,
I just was saying is I actually get I actually get angry thinking about like,
and I know my parents didn't know
because it was a different time.
Yeah.
But like I would have loved to been given
to understand what was going on
and to give the choice to go,
well, you can do it.
There's no way I would have chosen to eat meat.
No.
Now I'm like,
that's what happened.
I kind of found out that chicken nuggets didn't grow on a bush.
And I was like, oh no.
And it took a couple years to cut it out
because I wasn't preparing my meal.
To get them murdering all your whole life
and then you, in some sense.
Oh, you know, murder's wrong.
You're like, wow.
I was 11 and my frontal lobe developed
and I was like, oh guilt and I stopped.
Yeah.
Okay, anyhow.
But so, so you heard, so you heard the,
Well, that stuck with me.
I mean, like, I don't think, I think a lot of people aren't really happy about the idea of where meat comes
from, but we also are so separated from it that you don't really think about it.
But when you said that, that's stuck with me for a long time, because it made me think
about it a while I hadn't.
And then I started dating a new girl, and she does meet me.
And the thing was, I stuck at cooking, except for Italian food.
It's the only thing I know how to make.
And everything she was making me was better than stuff
I would go out and buy or eat or make myself.
And I realized, oh, I don't actually need to eat meat.
I just need to learn how to cook,
because I clearly don't know how to do that.
It's all of me made it a lot easier.
Yeah, I've been dyed, and I think I mentioned this a few weeks
ago when we were doing the skin care episode.
But I found that even if I just try a little bit to cook,
it's like, I'm like, oh wow,
there's all this food I could be eating
that I wouldn't normally eat
because I'm lazy or stupid or whatever.
And it definitely changes.
Like when you start to figure out
like you can make stuff for yourself
and it doesn't have to be the same thing you've always eaten,
you're like, oh, this is a huge deal.
And here's the thing, if you really want a chicken sandwich
or you really want something, I'm not saying to do it
all the time because it's definitely probably not healthy
and it's expensive, but there are meat replacement products
that are perfectly great.
The Toeferky is a wonderful place.
It's very good.
No, no, no, there's great.
I eat these morning stars, this is again, not an ad.
I eat these morning star like sausage patties.
The breakfast sausage?
Yes, the breakfast sausage. I mean, honestly, it tastes like a sausage. The breakfast sausage? Yes, the breakfast sausage.
I mean, honestly, it tastes like a sausage, right to me.
It tastes like a McDonald's sausage.
It's so good.
And like, you have some eggs.
I have the breakfast.
Oh my God.
Very good.
Listen, you make some eggs.
I'll tell you what, you get it tortilla, put some eggs, salsa, guacamole, throw those, break
those things up through them in there.
It's a fucking delicious.
And you put them in the most, for three minutes, they're cooked.
It's so easy than me. Three, yeah. I do a minute and a half for three, and make it a delicious. Three minutes. They're cooked. It's so.
Yes. Easier than me.
I do a minute and a half for three
and a half.
Impossible burger the other day.
How was it?
You like it?
Not bad either.
It's pretty good.
The only thing that was weird is I was
expecting the burger to taste like a restaurant burger,
something made on a griddle.
I mean, it's taste more like something that was cooked on a
charcoal.
Yeah.
A little bit like a smoky taste. Yeah. So the expectation, it tasted more like if I had it at a barbecue at someone's backyard
than at a restaurant.
Let me ask you a question.
First off, I haven't, have we heard, are you thankful that you're vegetarian?
Is that the thankful thing?
This is not spoken to me.
Yeah, I'm very thankful about it.
I mean, I definitely, so I guess I would say I'm thankful for the tomorrow podcast and
for my girlfriend for helping me make that decision and like actually
stick to it so that almost a year of being a vegetarian that's powerful combo
uh... tomorrow when you be combined the tomorrow podcast with love anything is
possible but um... but what i what i'm so one of the things that i
tell me this is crazy crazy
well hold on i haven't said it yet.
You know, I feel like this is a really bad.
Like when we have Thanksgiving, there's gonna be a turkey.
Zerabite's turkey and we acknowledge that.
And you know, like we're gonna cook for large group of people.
You can't be like, oh sorry guys,
you come to our house Thanksgiving, but no turkey.
Cause that would just be insane.
And my logic is like, well it's there, we cooked it.
It's going there anyway.
It's not gonna, there's no taking his back now.
Might as well have a bite of it.
Listen, I own a leather couch.
I have leather shoes.
I do a lot for the animals.
Occasionally, the animals can do something for me.
I mean, Laura vehemently disagrees with me.
And of course, she in Zelda will not be eating any turkey, but she makes very good turkey.
Also, I mean, I feel very conflicted.
I feel like it.
No, it's a addiction.
It's like, I'm addicted to it.
We all do stuff that we shouldn't do occasionally.
If it's once a year, yeah, I'm not like Glenn Thrasch.
Yeah.
I think it's different for everyone.
I know if I break it, like I'll probably just start binge eating.
Like, I'll do it. I'll go get it. I'll go to in and out. So I know I can't. I can't.
Don't fall and don't follow it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a bad.
But some people can do that. I know I can't. Well, listen, this is great. Thank you so much.
This is actually great. It's fine. It's fine. Yeah. No, we're I am so glad to hear this.
I love, I mean, it is, I just want to say this,
like extremely exciting that by having a conversation,
maybe there's one, now one person in the world
who's like eating better and not eating animals.
That to me is like, it's great.
It's great.
You've made me feel very good about the tomorrow podcast.
It feel like no matter what, I, I've got something
to hang my hat on now.
Anyhow, thank you.
Thank you.
Oh, right. Oh, wait.
Oh, no.
Do we lose it?
There was something big there.
What was it?
Get him back.
Get back on the line.
Call us back in.
I'm sorry.
Oh, he's still on.
Okay, hot.
Hello.
No, he's not.
Is he gone?
Yeah.
Sorry.
Call us back in.
I'm telling you the booth today.
I really apologize.
That was me.
That was on me.
Let's go with this angle.
Can you give this back to my face?
Whatever.
It doesn't matter.
It looks great.
No, it doesn't.
Listen, the more we can obscure.
I know.
We need like a sheet to cover.
I just want to kind of mask.
I'm gonna be like cyborg from justicesly.
It's just like one eye.
All right, we have another caller from Tommy from Vancouver.
Tommy from Vancouver.
Let's see what Tommy has to say.
All the way from the west coast of Canada.
Hi Tommy.
Hello.
Hi.
Hello.
Hi.
I'm thankful for Lady Gaga.
Oh yeah.
I love Lady Gaga.
Why?
Now I just want to know Ryan's opinion on yesterday's AMA
performance.
Oh, okay. Oh, there's a performance.
Yes.
Here's what I'll tell you.
What did she do?
Can you tell her a little?
Okay, so she performed the cure.
She's on tour and she was in DC.
She performed with the cure.
No, no, no, her song the cure.
I was gonna say that's fucking true.
She wrote a song for her friend who is dying of cancer.
Oh, okay.
It's a pretty song.
It got released as a random single
because she wanted her friend to hear it on the radio
before she died, which I think was very nice.
Very dark.
She is on tour, so they shot it live from her DC show.
And they like just played her perform
as if it was regularly in concert.
But it was live.
Here's what I'll say.
I saw the Joanne tour.
I cried from the beginning to end.
It was wonderful.
It was great. She's at a powerhouse.
I mean, really great.
Yesterday's performance, it was pretty,
and I liked the general concept,
but it wasn't the best Gaga performance I've ever seen.
And that's to say, I'm grading on a Gaga's curve,
which is to say, if someone else gave that performance,
a curve, perfect.
I know there's better in her.
And how is this related to being thankful for Lady Gaga?
Is that what's happening?
Is that true?
It's also, it's like Canadian Thanksgiving
was like a month ago.
What is Canadian Thanksgiving?
Well, because it's an American holiday.
No, but what is it?
They're version.
No, I, it's just being thankful for being thankful, right?
So like, so like, you know, it's not a celebration.
I mean, thank you for just introducing.
It's not like an event that happened.
No, I don't know.
Oh, you don't have like a dinner.
There was like a turkey.
No, we have a dinner.
There's like a Thanksgiving weekend.
It's like turkey, like, mashed potatoes, stuffing.
I mean, do it on a weekend.
That's smart.
Yeah, that is.
But you don't have,
so what do you do about what you do
about Black Friday?
So you just like,
just jump onto our Black Friday.
Well, we just have Black Friday.
What?
Just randomly.
No, after,
yeah, after,
after Thanksgiving.
Yeah, or whenever your Black Friday
is, is our Black Friday.
Oh, wait, wait.
So Black Friday hasn't happened yet.
It's at the day after Thanksgiving.
Let me explain how this, let me explain how this happens, okay?
Thursday, this coming Thursday is Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
Friday.
I'm sure that they can, may I finish, may I finish?
Friday, black Friday, Saturday, Saturday, small business, Saturday.
Sunday we rest, because it's Jesus' day,
Monday, cyber Monday.
That's all I know.
I like that they put small business right after Black Friday
because they're like, listen, we admit it.
You're not coming to a small business on Black Friday.
But if you've got any shuckles left.
Yeah, they're like, you spent your money
on the new 4K TV at Best Buy.
But if you want to get a candle,
if you want to get like a soy candle,
where cat bird is open in Brooklyn.
Keep something going.
Cat bird's actually a great story.
Not a promotion, but they make an amazing candle
there called the chair on the car.
So why are you so thankful for Lady Gaga?
Yeah.
Was it just an excuse to talk to me about Lady Gaga?
You know, that's funky releasing new music.
Oh yeah. I feel nothing.
She's doing a star's born. Bradley Cooper, you see the picture
on the motorcycle, Bradley Cooper. So I ran a
photo. Has it never been. It's Bradley. So Bradley Cooper, he's
that guy. He is officially heterosexual. That's why I
thought. Yeah. Well, look, we're all little guys.
Everyone's on a spectrum. Yeah. Anyhow, thank you for
this. This is great. We know now more about, we know way more about Canadian Thanksgiving
than I think we wanted to know.
And we really appreciate the call.
Thanks, Tommy.
Is it Tommy or Tom?
Thank you.
Tommy.
All right.
You say so.
That's what I've been told.
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Let's talk about some things that you're thankful for.
Okay.
Do you want to touch on some of your topics?
I had a rough week this week.
I tweeted some like random tweet.
Oh no. We'll get to it. And I thought, you know, not my best tweet, but tweeted some like random tweet. Oh, no.
We'll get to it.
And I thought, you know, not my best tweet, but pretty much what I think.
And I have been getting death threats from Nazis, hundreds, maybe thousands.
Ryan Hulland comedian is your, is your auto product search, by the way?
Yeah.
Concerned traditions.
It's not been great.
I got a lot of like rape threats and death threats.
And my family got messages
and other Ryan Hullaheans completely unrelated
to the issue of got messages.
And it was tough, but I'm thankful for two things.
One, that I have a thick enough skin that I can handle it.
So if I had to get it,
if someone else didn't get it because I did great.
Which tweet is it?
I took it down when the rape threats started,
but. So I said, okay, so there was this makeup app where
that you could remove a woman's makeup or anyone's makeup, um, with filter. Oh,
oh, I saw somebody using that. Yes. And I said, that seems kind of misogynistic and kind of
violent because I thought the idea of stripping a woman is emotionally violent, especially
to people who are self-conscious
or have body dysmorphia,
it seems like a particularly mean thing to do
to someone who purposely put like,
had control of the audience.
So people were using it on other people's photos.
Yes.
Like, here's a photo of us.
Like people were taking photos of Lee Neumann
and stripping it out and then like calling her names.
And I said, this seems violent, emotionally violent.
Well, in that context, it is.
Yeah, and that's what people are using it for.
But if you were like a person,
you're like, I wanna do it myself.
Do it to yourself fine.
Do it to a friend who's fine with it fine.
But I always find to a way to make something horrible.
To abuse something.
So all I said was people were abusing it.
And I got messages pouring in,
and I still have them pouring in.
I had to lock my accounts for a couple days.
But you know what, honestly, like.
No, no, no, but press is bad presses, I say. That. That's haters make me famous. But here's what I'll say. I'm thankful
that I know that I am fine. Like I can be fine. It's not like I'm not taking it so seriously.
But I'm also thankful that listen, there are Twitter's not great about it, but Instagram's great
about it. Facebook is great about it. You can block. You can report that stuff exists. And I would like, and I'm thankful that there are people that are attempting to make those
resources better.
And that's on a serious note.
I'm actually very thankful.
You know, I started writing a tweet last night or today, and I just stopped.
It was like a point about something that I felt passionately about in politics.
And then I just was like, cares.
Who cares?
I mean, what's the point of saying this now?
Because it's just all you're doing is,
you're either finding people who agree with you
or baiting somebody into arguing with you.
And like, I do feel like there's a very limited utility
to social networking at this point.
Nobody is changing someone's mind over social media.
It does not happen.
There is no discourse.
Like at no point did I look at one of the tweets
calling me like a cuck beta soy boy and be like,
you know what?
That's not an accurate.
That's not an accurate.
It's true.
It's also not an insult.
It's like being called in high school,
I get called a baggett.
It's like, you're correct.
You're like, yes.
Accurate descriptor.
That's very good.
Yeah, I just think honestly,
more and more, I don't know,
I feel like most people must feel like this at this point.
You just shouting, maybe people like it.
I understand you like it.
I've done this for a long time though.
Now I'm like, I don't need to have arguments
of people who I can never convince
and they can never convince me.
You're never gonna convince me that guns are cool
and that I should like them.
Yeah.
So, and I'm never gonna convince you
if you like guns that you shouldn't use one or have one.
So, what's the point of us talking
to each other on the internet?
Here's the other thing I feel like,
is that I learned, especially this week,
this is a philosophy I had, but did not practice day to day,
which is screaming at a specific person for a misstep
or something you disagree with them about.
It's not helpful.
No.
Make your arguments broad and about like you can say,
like, I don't agree with this thing or like,
you know, the people who think this blah, blah, blah.
But attacking a specific person,
even if they're justine, sacco and they tweet
some racist tweet, you're not helping the world
or like, it feels like you are.
And it feels like, it feels personal
because you saw the message and you feel like
it's your duty to say something,
but if this was real life and you saw thousands of people
screaming at somebody over like a bad joke,
yeah, you'd be like, we gotta stop.
Yeah, yeah, you'd be like,
and that's what it is.
None of this behavior happens in,
look, I mean, the drag Harvey Weinstein,
but I said a makeup app, I had a pinny about a makeup app,
like, you don't have to send my mother death threats.
I can't help it anybody. I don't know, I mean a pinny about a make up app. Like, you don't have to send my mother death threats. I can't help it anybody.
I don't know.
I mean, I can make a justification for that.
No, I think it's like, like, look, the internet is,
we've said about this before and this is,
we're gonna get back on to thankful things.
Thanks for thankful for it.
But I will say, like, the internet is like this outrage machine.
Everybody is now just tuned to be as mad as possible,
as much as possible.
And it's like a very unhealthy way
and a very empty sort of form of communication.
Like it doesn't really,
and I'm not like we all have to understand each other better.
Like I think just places where we understand each other
just fine, but we don't agree.
Yeah.
Like if we're arguing on ideology, you know,
and it's like, well, I'm pro-gun and I think, you know,
the good guy with the gun always stops the bad guy with the gun.
If that's what you think, and I think, well, I don't think anybody with the gun is good,
then ideologically, we're not going to connect.
I mean, we will find some common ground.
I do, I tweeted about this thing the other day, about this feeling of discovering that
you have an opinion that you share with somebody who you always disagree with, which is a kind
of good feeling, and I do think
that there are pockets, I mean, I experience this all the time
in just day-to-day stuff with people,
but it's kind of nice to be able to find
common ground with people.
It's just tough when it's hard to find
common ground with people who stand against everything
that you stand for.
Here's the thing where I can't find common ground,
is over someone's right to exist or have their personal rights rights. And like gun rights, we're talking about my
right to safety versus your right to bear arms. That's a thing, that's a separate thing.
But I would forcibly take a gun out of your hand, okay? The idea is to tell people who can
and kind of, for example, marry or who has to go and what bathroom, that kind of stuff
to me. We're not even talking about policy. We're talking about someone's like right to do
biological functions.
Which is a waste.
It's just a waste of every time and energy.
And it's also like, I think if you come from this,
like it religious more morality
as your backbone of your argument,
there can be no argument, right?
There's no discussion to have.
Yeah.
So anyway, call us in with things that you're thankful for.
Yeah, sorry, we got way off,
we got way off top that we're thankful for.
The number is 202-688-1697.
I will say this, I am thankful for,
you know, I have a daughter, Zelda.
And I gotta say, having a kid is an incredible thing.
And I recommend that everybody does it.
I mean, if you can.
Not everybody.
I mean, if you want to.
Yeah.
But it is actually really cool to like,
I mean, I understand, like people with kids are annoying, not everybody. I mean, if you want to. But it is actually really cool to like, I mean, I understand, like, people with kids are annoying
first off.
Sure.
Like parents are fucking annoying.
Like, especially modern parents, they're bad.
But like, I do understand why people keep having kids.
Now,
because they are really fascinating.
And they definitely change your perspective
on all of the shit you thought was important in life.
Like, I'm not one of these people who's like, man, I wish I'm not like, I got to get, you know, punch the clock and I got to get out of here because I love working.
I love to work and I, you know, probably too much to work and you work to live.
Something like that, Ryan. But, but I also like have, you know, and especially now that she's like, she's like three and a half, well, she'll be almost four, I mean, she's almost four in February.
And it is like really refreshing to hear a perspective
that has nothing to do with the shit
that's going on in the world.
But to just talk to a person who's experiencing the world
as fresh.
Yeah, fresh, but also she's very thoughtful
about what's going on and is interested and curious.
And I think we could all be more interested
and more curious, I think that would be,
and so I'm very, very thankful and pleased
that I have a kid to spend,
to have downtime with,
you know, to have a different part of my life.
I think that's been really edifying and gratifying
and I don't know what the right word is,
but kids aren't for everybody.
And I'm probably bad at it.
I'm probably a bad father.
Like, I don't feel like I'm like super attentive
or like really, I think I can be better.
Yeah.
But I really do enjoy.
I think that's an important feeling to have.
Any parent that thinks they're doing it great.
Yeah, not great.
Because they're, I don't know.
I don't know.
Oh, I'm thankful for John Carpenter in his music. I went to
see him. Oh, can we get the picture up? Can we get the picture? Is this possible? What am I looking at?
I took a I went to see John Carpenter. My favorite director. Yeah. In concert. And you know, John
Carpenter loves Sonic. Great? Sonic the headshot. Yeah.
What?
I read an article about how John Carpenter is like obsessed with Sonic.
Really?
The new games, the old games.
Really?
Yeah.
John Carpenter, the director.
It's John Carpenter, the director.
It loves Sonic the headshot.
That's cool and sort of makes sense, but also does it.
Um, anyhow, I went to, I got the, I got the meat and greet package,
which I've never done before my entire life.
But I was like, oh, it's like a couple hundred bucks,
which is insane.
If you love the person,
and you go and you meet them,
and you get your picture taken.
You have to say a thing.
And they give you a bunch of swag
and they sign stuff for you.
That's the picture I took.
Oh wow.
This is, there's a picture of me with,
are you guys, do you know where it is?
Pretty good seat.
Okay, they're working on it.
It's a really funny situation
because there's hundreds of people who do this.
You light up, I've never done this before.
You just line up and wait.
Yeah.
And then eventually you go and it's like,
he's sitting there and, you know, he's like.
I did it once for the cast of Drag Race
and there was like nine people.
Really?
And you just kind of go from one to the next
and I tried to think of like something nice
to say to each of them.
I've never done it for one person.
What did you say?
Oh, it was just like, you're inspiring.
You looked really great.
And then the people who really meant something to me,
I like had a little thing to be like,
oh my, you're transformed into my look of her, whatever.
Yeah, it was cool, but I gotta say,
I fucking love his music.
And it's the second time I've seen him,
I'm not a person who really is going to shows.
Yeah, I'm not a show person.
I've been to a million shows now, I'm like, I'm good.
But I like music, I don't like that much.
I actually think recorded music is better in a lot of ways.
That's exactly what you wanted.
But man, it's so good.
His show is so good.
If you like his movies and his music, it is like, because he plays the songs, a lot of
his songs are from the movies and
they have like edits of the movies they play. Oh, that's cool.
So he has like four screen or five screen set up where it's like one in the back and then
like that's really cool. They're all around. And so it's like it's like when you see
a lot of orchestra do the orchestration to like Harry Potter. Yeah, it's like a visual
experience. Yeah, it's very cool. I know what I actually very thankful for John. I will
say I'm thankful for I know it's too much for some you know what I actually, very thankful for John Carpenter. I will say, I'm thankful for,
I know it's too much for some people at this point,
but I'm thankful that like fandoms
and these like communities exist
because it used to feel very isolating
to be a really big fan of something.
You feel like you're alone with your DVDs
or whatever, right?
You would talk about it too much to your partner or friends.
Yeah.
And now you get little like live events
that you get to, I do these house live events.
Here I am with John Carpenterenter who kind of looks like my dad.
Yeah, like it looks exactly how I thought it was.
Yeah, I mean, he's cool.
Like, look at how cool he is.
Yeah, he's so cool.
I do.
He's like a real house like a complete nerd.
I'm like, look, I'm dying right here.
It's actually very formal though.
I mean, the problem with this is like, you can't press the flash.
You can't like chat.
You're literally just going to it's for you.
It's for him. It's for you. I have so many things
signed by John Carbender now. I have like, I had him sign his record to Zelda. I have a poster
signed by him. I have two posters signed by him. I have some other shit. I don't know. You got a
whole collection. I got a whole collection. I mean, not going to do anything with it. All right,
we've seen enough of the photo. That's good. I do. I look like an idiot this picture.
You've never said a nice thing about yourself in a photo.
I'm not a big fan of, I don't think I need to be thankful
that you are an attractive, healthy man.
I don't think I'm an only attractive right?
All right, well you need to learn to be a bad boy.
I need to be more of you.
I think I like a monster.
Well, I was gonna say, I do these real housewives of events.
And this is a plug. So I'm only in a- Well, it's for charity, so come to one. It we I do these real housewives events. Mm-hmm. And this is a plug
Well, it's for charity. So come to one there. Yeah, just like cyborg
Wow, you guys are getting a angle right gets a new effects. I can't
This is very iPhone X is great. This is this is what it's like this is what animo
Do you like on the new iPhone?
I was gonna say I like doing these events
because it's a group of people that watch these TV shows
at least an hour or several hours a week.
And there's no shame about it.
We get to all come together and talk about them.
We talk about them.
What?
Yeah, like we all watch the bravo shows
and we get to come together and laugh and joke about them.
And there's no shame.
Oh, you're house, what you're real housewives.
Yeah, you get to feel, I don't know,
you get to really talk about it.
You tell the viewer in listener what it is.
Oh, so I do these events where we take a script
from a Bravo reality TV show, usually the real housewives.
And we transcribe it and we get celebrities
to read it in a dramatic reading
as if they are playing the part street as if this was a play
because some of these scripts are just amazing. They're very dramatic. They're very dramatic. They're great. I usually play Bethany if you know, playing the part street as if this was a play because some of these scripts are just amazing.
They're very dramatic.
They're very dramatic.
They're great.
I usually play Bethany if you know the shows.
Bethany is like the main character.
She's the Lauren.
She's just the loud like she's the Lauren.
She's the Lauren.
Very New York.
Yeah, and just on New York.
Was a New York one.
Yeah, but at any event, I like it because it's a group
of gay people, usually in women, mostly.
We have straight guys, but it's usually a group of people.
And it's shameless.
And I wanted you to read a part.
I think I lost my voice.
It was like a week ahead, you were like,
I'm not doing this.
I just, I'm gonna decline.
I'm gonna decline.
I think you just didn't want to do it.
And you also didn't know what it was.
I want to do it.
I want to do it.
I've got 500 tickets sold and you were like, no.
I want to do it, but I didn't want to do it.
But come to one if you ever see us do it.
At that moment. In New York, but I didn't want to do it. But come to one if you ever see us do it one. At that moment.
In New York, I think we're doing a Christmas show.
Anyhow, you should call in.
The number is, what is the number?
It's two up to six, eight, eight, 16, 97.
We're looking for things that you're thankful for.
Yeah, please, ever suggestions for our show next week.
Oh, that's right.
That's the other thing is that you guys
need to step it up on the suggestions.
Yeah, we got to get some suggestions.
I mean, otherwise I'm going to have to finally watch all the Fast and Furious movies, which
I honestly, I can't fathom at this point.
There's so many of them.
It's like 16 hours of movies.
It's really, I'm thankful that that's even going to be something that we have to do
because I actually think once the holidays are over, this might be a great challenge.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
Anyhow, but so, you know, I think that,
I do think the holiday is, even though its origins
are kind of fucked up, Thanksgiving.
Thanks, guys. Oh, it's terrible.
I was what I was saying before is like,
I do think it's a really kind of wonderful time.
And I'll give, I'll give reality this, you know,
having that like, everybody kind of winds down on Wednesday.
You do Thanksgiving on Thursday, Friday's,
black Friday, so it's a weird, it's like a weird day.
It's a normal day.
No.
And then you roll into the weekend.
It's a kind of a nice time to spend.
I do like a holiday that lets you keep your weekend.
They're certain holidays.
Right.
You should go over it.
Halloween needs to be on a weekend because you're drunk.
There's costumes, there's weird photos.
You want to get it together this week, this year?
It wasn't, it was a Tuesday, I think.
Oh, but I like a holiday that gives you your weekend still.
Yeah.
A new year's on a weekend.
Who's, who's doing that Monday?
Uh, I mean, is it, what is it this year?
Uh, a look.
So it's a Monday is the first.
So we get that off.
Oh, so Sunday night.
Yeah. Well, it's gonna make Sunday probably a little get that off. Oh, so Sunday night. Yeah.
Well, it's going to make Sunday probably a little bit more interesting.
I hate New Year's Eve is so bad though.
I always try to have fun on New Year's Eve.
Least good holidays.
New Year's Eve.
Fourth of July.
What's the worst holiday?
Number one.
Fourth of July.
I hate it.
I fucking hate the fourth of July too.
I hate the fourth.
I hate the fireworks.
I hate the fireworks.
I don't like fireworks or nationalism.
I'm not hearing fireworks in here.
I don't like fireworks. Fireworks are the worst not hearing fireworks in here. I don't like fireworks.
Fireworks are the worst.
I don't understand.
They do like six days of fireworks around my house.
It's like they do all the days leading out to the-
All the cats and dogs are crying.
No, yeah, no.
I hate it.
Penny's terrified Zelda is getting woken up.
It's terrible.
I hate the Fourth of July.
It's such a selfish holiday.
What holiday are you thankful for?
Let's stay positive.
What's a holiday you really like?
I mean, I thought I had a great time at Halloween.
I mean, we got to walk around like a very suburban area.
Thankful for candy.
It was like a full on like a stranger thing's Halloween.
Yeah.
And there's like kids everywhere walking from a house to house.
I haven't been like trick or treating since I was a little kid.
So it was obviously.
Yeah.
It was incredible.
She went to doc.
Collison with your favorite holiday,
where your favorite food at 202-688-1697.
No, it's a call, it's fine.
You know what?
It's a big deal.
We're not hurt.
Halloween, but then we have to admit, as a follow-up,
I have to say.
You know, people hate it.
I like Valentine's Day.
Horrible holiday.
I think it's nice.
Here, I'm gonna spur some calls right now.
Have an iPhone, I have an iPhone X in a box.
I bought it on, I bought it the day after the the launch walked in and just got one
so
Thankful for that fuck all y'all who couldn't get one. Um, no, that's not nice
But but sitting in a box still shrink wrapped I
Thought about putting it on eBay for sale have not been able to figure out a reason to take it out of the box
I really haven't like I know hey, so here's what I do every time I think about putting it on eBay for sale, have not been able to figure out a reason to take it out of the box. I really haven't.
I know, so here's what I do.
Every time I think about it, I'm like,
let me get my iPhone 7, which is the last iPhone I had.
And I'm gonna get it, I'll get it cleaned up
so I can, when I get the new,
I'll switch to the new phone.
I'm gonna, you know, because I still have it on Wi-Fi.
Every time I open that phone, unlock that phone,
I'm like, I get so annoyed with iOS, so annoyed so fast.
Yeah, I'm like, I do not want to deal with this.
I don't like Android.
I can't think of, I can't think of, I don't like iOS either.
I would like to make any of my work good.
No, they all think fine.
We need a new one.
We're all new.
Now the, now the phone is ringing off the hook, right?
How many calls we have coming in?
People pouring in to yell at me about the iPhone 10.
Yeah, one call, this person at me about the iPhone 10.
Yeah, one call, this person's mad about the iPhone 10.
Or is it like to call it the iPhone X?
So be thankful that you have a fan base of people,
so dedicated.
I'm thankful that I have.
I need to have gadgets.
I need to know what to do with the phone
is what I need to do, is what I need to figure out.
It's very perplexing to me.
So what you wanna do with it?
I don't know what I should do.
You give it to me.
I don't know, I'm not giving it to you. It's very expensive. I was thinking about selling an eBay. Gonna be Hanaka. I'll tell know what I should get you. Give it to me. I don't know. I'm not giving it to you.
It's very expensive.
I was thinking about selling on eBay.
Gonna be Hanukkah.
I'll tell you what.
You could give it to me.
These eBay prices are through the roof.
Yeah.
I mean, people are giving away their first born for these iPhones.
Yeah.
I mean, just go to a suburb.
You can get one.
You can get one.
I lost an eBay bidding the first time I tried to do that last night.
Oh, really? For an iPhone?
No, I was trying to get a, like a piece, like I was like a streaming.
A pizza.
An external street, no, a piece of like an external streaming box.
Here it is, look at this.
Look at this, look at this.
Look at this $2,000.
That's what I have.
That's what I have.
That $256 silver Verizon that's going to be selling for $2,000.
I'll throw in a taupe leather case which I I got for it, because I'm an idiot.
I'm like, better get a case too.
If you want Josh's iPhone, make an offer.
Fucking I'll raise this.
Call it now and make it up.
Venmo, me 1600 right now, and it can be yours.
I'm kidding, don't do that.
I'm probably gonna get somebody fed me a request.
It's not hard to find me on Venmo.
I don't really use it very often.
So, what is something that you're thankful for?
What happened to that call?
They drop?
There was a call.
Fuck them.
Oh, wait, we got a call.
Wait, we do have a caller.
Sorry, take that back.
I don't, I didn't mean that caller.
Who do we have?
I'm sorry, caller.
We have Kyle and Boston.
Kyle and Boston, lay it on us, my man.
Hello, so I'm actually here to tell you
that I can keep your iPhone 10.
You should use it.
Why?
I think you'll be surprised that I read your article about Apple's design. I think once you use it, I thought a lot of things you described. I think they kind of melt away. I don't believe it.
I don't believe you. How about the bad notifications? There's melt away. What about the fact that I
can't use my email app of choice? Will that melt away, Kyle? It's Kyle, right away what about the fact that I can't use my email app of choice will that melt away Kyle it's Kyle right what about the
What about the fact that I have to keep using safari get peace pushing me to safari in the maps app
We're here. Well, why don't you like safari? I'm just curious. I mean stinks
horrible sucks. I hate it. It's ugly. I'll tell you a couple of reasons why I don't want to far
I mean think about all the things you can do with a Google account that you can't do a safari. I mean, seamless syncing across devices. You know,
you have seamless syncing. I mean, if you have Apple devices, you've seamless syncing.
Yeah, if I use safari on everything, that's crazy. What about all the cool plugins I have
that I can't use on safari? Well, I mean, here, like, what type of computer do you use, right?
Well, unfortunately, I'm using this night this 2014 MacBook Air
But I like to use it. I have a service. I have a service pro and I have a pixel book
Which I like both of them, but neither one of them are 100% what I need and I want to buy a new Mac
But they're also they're also bad
I had one stolen something bad. I had a MacBook Pro that was stolen with the touch bar stolen. Oh, yeah, yeah
Yeah, but I hated it
My iPhone 7 was stolen while I was on stage doing stand-up
I saw someone take a jacket that looked just like mine and I thought that my jacket and I finished my set
I got off stage was like that was my jacket and it was my Nathan for you
This is why I would never do stand-up right there. No, you're yes
Find my iPhone. Let you down. I immediately checked it the person was smart enough to turn it off Wow
I reported it everywhere in the passcode. Yeah, but I they sold it for parts
I reported it everywhere locked it down called sprint who I have yes
Wow, it's very good in Manhattan and it's very cheap. Okay, and I have been using an iPhone 6 for
Tell since then like since a month in and I'm still on contracts
Why pay for that phone every month that I don't own. That's why Josh should give me.
So would you say that you're thankful? Would you say you're thankful for the iPhone 10?
Um, I mean, I don't know, I'm thankful for the iPhone 10. I just think it's uh,
I don't, I think that a lot of people kind of when Apple comes out of the new product,
I think that this is big for us, the people who, I mean, I think this is the first time with this, and
the iPhone, where the renders the course and the phone in person, is kind of a weird thing,
because usually it's the opposite with Apple devices.
But really, it's a lot of people, I think they're shocked.
This is the first year where the iPhone is actually, I think, technically, the most impressive
phone this year.
I mean, it looks impressive.
It looks impressive. It's only the truly corner to corner
bezel-less display on the market.
It's the first time Apple's done the lead obviously.
So, for the first time, are you employed?
Are you employed by Apple?
I'm not a mole.
Do you get paid by Apple to call the podcast?
No.
You're like, this is actually paid you like $15 an hour.
Just call it to any podcast.
I'd be like, have you tried the iPhone 10?
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Anyhow, this is great. Cop, before you go, anything that you're thankful for,
you can be celebrating your thank for. Are you be selling a celebrating Thanksgiving?
Number one, and number two, what are you thankful for?
Number one, I am sobering Thanksgiving.
Oh, yeah.
Going over to my family's house in Brooklyn, actually, so the month, two of them I think
for.
I don't know, I get to live, I think in what hopefully will become a good country again,
but I mean, I don't have to deal with it.
I get to talk about $1,000 iPhones.
Yeah.
Yeah.
True. You lucked out.
Well, thank you for your call.
We appreciate it.
And it's not, listen, make America good again.
Great.
We don't even make America anything good.
How about we just stop fucking?
Superman does good.
Let's not fuck with America.
But I, here's what I think.
Don't fuck with America anymore.
Friendly.
It's good.
You're good.
Leave it alone for a minute.
Christians actually back.
Christian is back with an idea for one of our most active callers.
Christian, you're back. You've got an idea for next week.
Hit us. Sorry about hanging up on you, Christian.
Yeah, I apologize. No, no, no, it's good. It's good.
We got you back from the day. I did use to work at the Apple store.
Oh, yeah. I did. I don't know what you're
rolling with right now. I'm using the seven plus and it's the
first time that the camera is like so
Marching on the improved that it didn't even seem worth it. I honestly went I was not did you steal my seven plus Christian?
I was at a target. I was at a target checking out the X the 10 whatever and
I was like, yeah, this camera. I was like I was just playing around with it there and I was like, you know, I swear
This camera's not as good as my
Pixel 2 XL and the I was like, you know, I swear, this camera's not as good as my Pixel 2 XL. And the guy was like, it's not. And then he like went off on how like much
better the Pixel 2 XL camera was in his opinion. It was a crazy encounter because normally
you get people just like standing hard to Apple or whatever. I don't know. Yeah, he don't
want to sell me that phone. The camera is the thing that I use the most. So it's like
on camera. It's not worth it in my opinion, especially if you have a 7 or 7 plus.
It's like just wait.
If you're going to get an x-way for the next one.
Is this what you call it?
It doesn't really.
Yeah, we either get called back about it.
I suggested on Twitter to you want if you got to an episode in VR.
Maybe do this because that's good for like filming.
You want us to do it in VR. And also, yeah, do, do, do, because that's good for like filming. You want us to do it in VR.
And then also, yeah, that would be awesome.
How would we do it in VR?
I'm trying to think we would get a Skyrim setup.
No, just sit across the giant long-term.
Do you guys know how we could do an episode in VR?
Yes, I'm hearing a yes for that.
We can, let's do it.
And that's why I recommended food, because food is like a broadcasting software for VR. Like it's made for capturing video content. Like it hasn't caught me
by Will Smith. The guy formally attest it. Oh, yeah, yeah, Will Smith. Um, the guy who has the handle
will, you know, he has the handle at Will Smith. He is not Will Smith. And I'm sure his mentions are
a fucking nightmare. Um, he's like, let's get jiggy Oh, um, he's like, the other Ryan who had him.
He's like, constantly, like, let's get jiggy with it.
And he's like, he's like, please stop that.
I'm, I made a VR app.
Uh, any high follow, I think I follow.
I should have named his VR app, Jiggy.
He really should have.
The other idea I had really quick was, I was going to say, you got to stand up or go
to like some sort of an open mic night.
Yeah, I love to take that.
I have bits. I had love to take this to that.
I have bits.
I have bits.
Let me see if I can find one here that I've written down.
No, I've for many years I've toyed with the idea of doing.
You told me of doing stand up.
We used to finish the show.
We would have had quite a few drinks by the end if you could have told.
And we would pitch each other bits.
Something here is going to be bad.
Well, we waited for cars.
I'm going to find it because I write down bad bits that are like the just bad
Ideas just half baked. I'm looking here. I don't even see anything all bits are bad
I mean you could probably just go back and listen to some of these episodes where you weren't talking about tech or design and you can just pull from that
I mean maybe you think
from that. I mean, maybe you think? I don't know. I don't know. I'm looking for any one that you could build on it. Let me search on it because I usually put
bit in there. So I know how to find it.
I was just good. Here's a bit. I found what you're in here.
I wrote this down. I think I was half asleep or something. Oh, God.
It's about how my parents like to watch Fox News.
They must like to be scared.
And then the bit is like, it's like their radio head.
How people like, you know, like be sad,
listen to radio head.
Fox News for them is like that.
They watch it. They're like, Oh, God.
That's pretty funny.
What's going to happen? I mean, I got to work.
I got to workshop it a little bit. Yeah, but yeah, but it occurred to me. It's a weird thing because they watch it, they're like, oh God, that's pretty funny. What's gonna happen? I mean, I got to work, I got to workshop it a little bit.
Yeah, but they encourage me to work it.
It's a weird thing because they don't,
they don't agree with the people on Fox News,
but they, but they like to feel scared.
Yeah, you know, yeah, it's like,
it's like, I'll watch you to horror movie.
Yeah, anyhow, that's a little something.
Oh, here's one.
Don't let me steal these.
It's a good, this is a very good,
honestly, I think this is quite good.
What do you think is the most sophisticated sex move?
Like the most classic.
Like a band-fledged?
What's a sophisticated sexual move you could do?
You mean like, I'm not actually asking you, that's the bit.
I don't have a whole thing, but that would be something like that.
Like, yeah.
That's good.
Anyhow, that's it.
Oh, here's one.
These are good.
I shouldn't even say these out loud.
Sweat suit.
Sounds a little formal.
Don't you think?
A little formal for my taste.
Sweat suit.
These are weird Twitter tweets.
That's a good thing.
Yeah, there is like trash.
There is like a real...
Yeah.
...drill aesthetic.
All right.
Well, thank you for calling in, Christian.
Hmm.
All right.
I'm not going to hang up on you this Saturday.
I'll see you like to add. Yeah. I just had the important thing I'm not going to hang up on you this Saturday. I'll see you like to add.
Christian, you just did the important thing.
I'm thankful for it.
I would just say similar to Ryan, it made me think fandoms.
I'm involved in a big Hamilton fandom called Hamilton.
So fandoms, like me, like friends through that.
So that's definitely a great one.
If you get me tickets, let me know.
Being a fan is great.
But here's a problem with being a fan.
It's like when everybody becomes a fan of the thing you like.
Is that ruined it?
No, I like it.
I hate that.
It's, yeah, it's complicated, right?
You want to have ownership of everything?
Well, I'm totally like what everyone points to.
I was a big lady Gaga fan when like demos were online and she didn't have an album yet.
I saw her shows when she's in a bar
I and I remember being like I'm obsessed there
I bought tickets for $16 and then she was on American Idol and those tickets were worth $300 and I remember being really happy
Yeah, and then a week later being so mad because I was like no, this was my cool person. Yeah
But at the end of the day, I think it's good. I think it's good if everybody decides we roll love Nicole Kidman this year
Like that's good.
Nicole Kidman is fine. Hamilton's a cool one to be a fan of because they like the groups
that I do. They're all around the country. This thing called Hamilton's and Hamilton officially
sanctioned them. So what they are, like large get-togethers and you can sign up and it's like
a live karaoke version. That's really cool. You're basically a cast member.
I have a whole thing cast member.
It's like Rocky Horror and For Hamilton.
Yeah.
Who's your character in you?
Who do you perform as?
They have him in New York.
Who's your main go?
My favorite person to perform as is probably Lafayette,
but I do, I do Hamilton a decent amount to.
Wow.
Okay, this is cool.
I'm a doctor, Frank and Futter. Okay, I've never seen him. I just have to. Wow. Okay. This is cool. I'm a doctor Frank and footer. Okay. I've never seen
that. I just have to tell you. That's not from how it's nor have I. Well, thank you for
calling. Thank you, Christian. You use the outlines budget. Go see Hamilton. Okay. I'm
going to do it. I'm going to do it. You're a wonderful man. Thank you so much. Thank you.
All right. I think we should probably wrap up here. Yeah. But you know what? I kind
of like the idea of doing VR next time. I really like the idea of VR.
This is our cyber show.
But what we should do is, if we do VR, we should do it,
we should only talk about things that are of an organic nature.
Yeah.
Like, we can't talk about gadgets.
We can't talk about gardening, farming, home building,
fishing, fishing, which I'm against.
Just things that you do projects around the home.
Just photosynthesis, things like that.
You know, things in nature.
But like BNFVR experience or like bugs,
we can talk about bugs.
Yeah, that sounds great.
Not computer bugs.
Let's see if it happens.
Let's see if we can pull this together.
Well, they claim there was a lot of hot talk
from in the booth.
Yeah, there's a lot of we could do that.
They're like, oh, we got trouble.
We got trouble.
We got trouble. It's just like when Trump went to Puerto Rico, they're like, we're taking lot of we could do that. They're like, oh, we got trouble. We got a phone. We got a phone.
This is like when Trump went to Puerto Rico,
they're like, we go, we're taking care of business.
Don't you worry about it.
And they all sound like that too.
I'm not there.
They're like, oh, hey, that was just like that.
Just like that.
Anyhow.
Anyway, come on.
This fucking side worry.
By the way, we have a great piece on Justice League.
If you've seen it, Jeremy Gordon, our new culture.
I'm scared it's gonna ruin Wonder Woman for me.
Look, it's bad.
He fell asleep during it.
Okay.
But also, do you know this thing about the lip?
Henry Cavill, you know?
Oh yeah, that's really crazy.
Why would you ever just let him have a mustache?
Just give a ball of oil.
Just give a ball of oil.
Don't give a ball of oil.
They had him with a beard and a man of steel.
Why not go back to that?
Why would you look at some of that beautiful? It's been dead, he's dead. No. You know, hair keeps, you know, you're, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, be without Superman? He's the main guy. Yeah. Anyhow, you know, they could have been like, oh, you're a
moustache. Well, I saw the picture and I was like, oh, what am I doing? It's so bad. Can we get a picture
of? I find that they bring Carrie Fisher back again. What? When they propped Carrie Fisher's corpse
up for the end of Rogue One. That's horrible. Yeah, it was real bad. How dare you? All right, well,
thank you guys. We got a picture of Caval's lip on here. Can we get that up? Oh, he punched that
up with people with this photo. No, no, that's good. Look at they they CGIed his
mustache out of the entire I wish they could CGI a mustache in for me.
They CGI his face. So it looks like what's going on? It's not right.
Look at this. It's uncanny valley.
It's so bad.
No, so bad.
Anyhow.
Anyway, all right.
You know, we should do an episode.
I'm thankful for you.
I'm thankful for you.
You're a great friend and a great co-host.
Likewise, it did out.
You're a pretty good producer.
You're not, you know, not great.
You're not the best, but you're...
Look at this.
It's like, in VR. Yeah, no best, but. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I What are we waiting for? I just saw a YouTube video about the original power glove before they like Mattel turned it into whatever,
that it was actually a really great product.
It was $1,000 at the time,
but the way that it worked was great
and you could really manipulate things.
Why is that not?
And then I googled it and I saw Zuckerberg's trying
and I was like, well, I don't want to do it.
I'm sorry, you tell me that we can,
you're telling me that we can shrink a person down
and then inject them into somebody else's bloodstream,
but we can't make a v-art.
But we can make a v- VR glove with fingers on it.
Okay, that's a problem for technology that I'd like to see the technologist.
We can travel back to our parents, bring fling dances.
Yeah, you tell me that we can change the course of history by traveling back to 1955, going
88 miles in a souped up de laurian, but we can't get VR hands.
You're telling me there's a school of wizards in English.
Yeah.
Wizarding is a thing.
We can grow up, people can grow up to become powerful wizards.
And we still can't get hands in our VR environments.
I'm furious ridiculous.
You're telling me that we can create a workforce
called replicants that have a lifespan that we decide
and they won't go crazy and kill anybody.
And yet, we can't make gloves.
We can't get gloves in VR.
We're telling me, that's like half an iPhone.
You're telling me there's a man with a million minions.
Ridiculous.
I'm under round doing a criminal.
A criminal turned superhero with minions.
With minions, and he can't make a glove.
He can't, the minions can't make the glove.
Come on.
You're telling me first off.
Come on. You're saying, we can get Matt and we travel a second lip. He can't the minions can't make the glove come on you telling me first off come on
You're saying we can give Henry Cavill a second lip. You can give this guy a lip
Isn't there you can put the lip right on him
You can put a lip up there when there's no when the lip is covered
And yet we can't get VR hands. I can't I can't I can't grab can I can't do this in VR? No, that's all I want
This yeah, that's gonna develop into a sex thing real fast.
Anyhow, well, you know what?
Let it, I'll tell you what, if I had VR gloves,
I'd have something to handle the woods with.
Okay, and that is what they call-
We got close, that is what's everything.
That's what they call back.
Thank you for listening to tomorrow.
What, oh, this is good. Right there.
Wait, how do I do this?
Right there.
Look at this.
This is like a scene from contact.
You're telling me they can make these things appear in the machine.
It's their make it.
Telling us to make a machine.
That's how Jody Foster said.
I'm not going to Jody Foster the rest of this conversation.
Okay.
Oh, is she bad now?
No, no, no, I'm just saying I'm not going to foster this behavior.
Oh, I see.
That's very bad. Okay. I think we should end. We'll edit this down for the version when this
airs. Thank you for listening. Happy holidays watching happy
holidays. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. If you don't
celebrate Thanksgiving, I'm sorry, but you can still have a
spinach ball. No one's going to stop you. And a toad, Fergie.
Anyhow, that's our show. We'll be back soon with more. And as
as always, I wish you and your family the
very best, but it's almost Thanksgiving. So that's pretty much a non-starter. you