Tomorrow - 108: Tomorrow Classic

Episode Date: March 16, 2018

After three months away, Tomorrow is back with all the delicious and refreshing audio-only entertainment you’ve come to expect. On this episode Josh and Ryan catch up on what you’ve missed while the show was away. Specifically VH1’s Pop-Up Video, white flooring, and people who’ve abused their Neuromancer privileges. As always: Thank you for tuning in, Tony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host Josh Wisposki. Today on the podcast we discuss gay bones, pop-up video and an unnamed switch game. I don't want to waste one minute so let's get ready. Alright, we're back. It's all happening. We're here. Me, Josh, Ryan, you the listener, you the whoever you came back, that one guy, you're here. We're so and we're so happy to have you. Let's call

him Tony. Hey, Tony's back, listening to us. Because it's definitely a dude. It's one guy who is very high right now. And anyhow, this is it. Tomorrow is back on the air after a long hiatus, three months where I was in seclusion. I went to a Buddhist monastery where I learned what it was like to really get in touch with yourself. I took a vow of silence, three straight months. You ran into teaching, no talking, no tweeting.

You know, it was a lot like Farhad Manju's break from Twitter that you may have seen out there on the New York Times, great New York Times tech writer Farhad Manju took a break from Twitter. All he did was retweet news. He didn't read any news. So we really went, just went all out. Anyhow, I didn't go on a retreat. Uh, things have just been crazy. We've had a lot going on. I needed to give tomorrow some space. Yeah. To really think about what tomorrow should be and what it was, what it will be. And what I realized is we're looking forward

because it's called tomorrow. Yes, okay, that. But I love the show and I love doing it and I felt we just got really complicated. I was like, we'll do this video thing and we're gonna try to do that for a week. It was fun, but just a lot. And honestly, I use it,

I have a Korean moisturizer now, which I love. Mm-hmm. Even the skincare is a scam. I, I, I, look, I believe in moisturizer. Okay. I don't think it's crazy to moisturize. Uh-huh.

I happen to buy this moisturizer because we tried it out. Yeah. Of C2FIL's fine too. Yeah, C2FIL's good. Okay. In fact, most dermatologists will tell you it's all basically. Cerevi is really where you want to be. It's all the same shit, okay? Well, that's not true. It's cow piss. They don't want to tell you it's all basically. Sarah V is really where you want to be. It's all the same shit, okay?

Well, that's not true. It's cow piss. They don't want to tell you the truth. Cow urine, you're rubbing it all over your body and face and orifices. And you truly are reaping the benefits. I'm gonna say, went and won is here, who owns. His job is to cringe at us.

Well, she cringes at us. This. She cringes. She's running the board right now. Wind is the outline slash independent media office manager. We gotta come up with a better name. Wind also has the unfortunate. She's like Joan Holloway meets. In you know I'm back when back girl turns into Oracle. She's Oracle meets Joan Holloway. Wow, that's really nice. That's very high praise. That's very nice. I agree.

But Wynn also has the unfortunate fate of having to help me manage my calendar as well, which I can't even imagine. I don't even like having to text you that you have to be somewhere in a month. A fucking nightmare from hell, which is how a lot of my close friends describe my personality. That's the subtitle of this podcast now. The fucking nightmare for Mel. So anyhow, so we're back and we, and I wanted to, what I realized is that I love this show.

I love talking to people. I love talking about the news and it's like, we just need to streamline this thing. Yeah. And get back to basics, which I'm excited to do. And it's gonna be nerdy, it's gonna be weird. I'm gonna go on definite and definitely going to go on rants. Listen, it was fun taking calls, but this is an hour for us to talk and you to listen.

This is an hour for me to drill my leftist liberal, basically Marxist politics into you so that you become an active member of the proletariat, a bisexual proletariat who, you know, I don't know, I'm trying to think of the things that Republicans say about liberals. I don't know if they can't think of, they're also fucking in it. Who discusses appropriation? Yeah, a snowflake. So you can come up bisexual snowflake. I don't know, we're talking about bisexual, bisexuality because we were just talking about Kendall Jenner. Okay, so let me, we'll get into that in a second. But so basically what we're going to do, here's the new show format. Now this show, this new show coming back,

it's just gonna be me and Ryan, we're gonna go through some, we're gonna talk about some things and we're just gonna catch up because we've been away for a while. Well, there's a lot to cover. In the future, moving forward, we're gonna do, there's gonna be some news,

we talk about some stories that I'm interested in that Ryan is interested in. And then we're gonna have guests. And I'm gonna like talk to people, just have conversations. We did, you know, some of my favorite conversations that I've ever had have been on the tomorrow podcast, just like full shitting with people

that I think are interesting. So we're gonna do that. And I'm gonna let my weirdness out here for everyone to see. It's on the table. You can have to take it, you take all of it. Okay. Anyhow.

Anyhow, very impressive. Perfect intro. All right, so we're, okay take all of it. Okay. Anyhow. Very interesting. Perfect, didn't drop. All right, so we're, okay, so we have this thing we want to do. Ryan's like, we should call it hot topics. I'm not kind of hot topics. That's what the view calls it. I mean, I don't want to, we're definitely not using the views name. Do they actually fucking call it hot topics?

They call it hot topics? Oh, I thought this was you making a joke about this kind of hot topic. No, you start your morning with a little bit of, we'll be in joy. I should say that Ryan and I are both wearing very, very baggy goth jankos with a ton of chains on them. It's worth saying that we're both wearing oversized jerseys, oversized sports jerseys in gigantic black jankos with several cargo pockets and chains. You can say we're actually kind of a hot topic at hot topic. That good. It's a little vaudeville slash bad. you. Any how. All right, let's get into the news. I don't know what I don't know. I don't know what we're going to call it.

But we're going to get into the news and Ryan, tell me what tell me what we've selected for this week. Well, you've already mentioned Kendall Jenner. Should we get into that? You want to get I mean, let's start with the lightest story of all. Give me the, give me the, you know, we did a story on Kendall Jenner. Kendall Jenner has come out as a heterosexual. Well, she claims, I mean, we have a quote, she was in a, in Vogue. Mm-hmm. And she said, and now a lot of people, I've thought for a long time that Kendall Jenner is, is gay.

Yes. And it's been, it's been a long topic of discussion. You're, I mean, you're a gay, man. Yeah. What is your, what do you sense when you see Kendall? What is your vibe? I don't want to put my shit on other people, but I will say of the Kardashians,

if one of them, if one of those daughters was or generous was going to be LGBTQ, I get a vibe from Kendall. Wow. But that's not my shit to put on her. It's really not. And frankly, it's rude and pre-judging. I feel like it all comes from the fact that she doesn't live or she doesn't always broadcast

her relationships, which the other ones do. I mean, she does, to a certain extent, do show mancy stuff and been linked to. But you don't really see a ton of her being like, this is my love of my life. I'm going to spend all this time with them. Here's me talking on every social channel about it. So she came up with this quote that said, I don't think I have a bisexual or gay bone in my body, but I don't know.

Who knows? Wow, I'm all down for experience, not against it whatsoever, but I've never been there before. Oh my God, this is the most qualified, I'm not gay. I'm the most qualified statement. She's like, I'm not gay, but like I'm not saying I wouldn't be into it, but like, you know, I don't really know, but you know, still, I guess if I had the opportunity,

it's like, here's what I think. I think everybody is a little, a little or a lot gay. I don't think there's a perfectly straight person. I think if they think that they are, they're frankly fooling themselves. And so it's sort of, I mean, yes, I guess if you people are asking you, you have to identify as something.

You know, it's a spectrum, Ryan. Labels have a use and labels have, I also have their limits for usefulness. But I just think it's a weird thing to say because it's sort of, I hate this couching of like, I'm not bisexual or gay, but I might hook up with somebody. But like, well, so you're kind of rendering those terms meaningless and sort of trying to take both sides of the, like just say what you, how you label yourself. I mean, it's okay if she's not gay. Sure. So, so okay, she is. I don't think anybody cares that much. I mean, I guess people do. That problem is that just weird. It's just like, the statement is so qualified. I guess the problem with this isn't her reaction

to it because she's like a young woman who, you know, is trying to make it through the world without a high school education. I think what's like tough here is that everyone does care and it's hard to call out everyone else for being in the problem rather than calling out just her. So is Caitlin, you know, related, but I'm related. Caitlin Jenner, is she also like, but Caitlin Jenner, I kind of noted bad person. Trashon are kind of noted bad person. She has a lot of really bad opinions.

The Bruce Jenner originally had a lot of really bad opinions and none of that changed when Bruce became Caitlin. Like there's, you know, there's no, I think Bruce was always Caitlin and always and Caitlin is still as bad as as we know. Right, right, right. I think, right, I may have phrased that for like, but what I'm saying is, you know, I think you think, well, someone who's trans would be very well. They'll be a woken.

They'll be very woke. Yeah. Right. But just, just Caitlin hate, like, I could imagine Caitlin being like, I hate gay people. I feel like that's like a thing that she said that. I actually think that that that we're at a point where like, gain is isn't a problem for people, but they still have issues with bisexual people, queer people, or like,

we don't know if Caitlin does it. I'm just wondering if there's anything about this where it's like, she's, because. Why LGBTQ people, and as you speak as one, are the worst, like really bad, because they think they're entitled to feeling woke and feeling like they're oppressed, which they are, but there's no intersectionality.

Wow. We really got right into this topic. Watch RuPaul's Drag Race, if you want to see that at work. Wow. Anyhow, so, you know, I'm happy for Kendall, whatever she decides. Sure. Sounds like she's still figuring it out.

She's still beautiful and rich, basically. All right, what else does she say? Let's talk about more important topics. Steven Hawking, past one. Completely gear shift, hardcore gear shift on the news here. I don't call these topics hot for nothing. We don't, they don't call them hot. Stephen Hawking died, he was 76 years old. Yeah.

He died on Pi Day, which everybody's making a big deal out of. Yeah. But he wasn't a fucking mathematician. I feel like the people who would care the least about byday, it's gotta be Stephen Hawking. He had to die on byday to get to the next level. People don't realize that there's a cosmic code that he'd cracked if he died. So me was like, I saw a tweet and they were like,

he was born on the anniversary of Isaac Newton's birthday or something and he died on. The fun thing about numer. And he died on the fun. Think about numerology as you can make anything fun. No, it's like, if you add all the days together and that gives you nine, and if you divide nine, but it's such an odd and such. I gotta find, I gotta find this. I saw it on Instagram.

A lot of people post this stuff and Horace go up stuff to Twitter. And all I can think it's like, he's still dead. It's so woke. Hold on, it's not woke. Hold on, here it is. It's even woke hold on. It's not woke hold on it. Uh here it is Stephen Hawking you fact check me on this, okay? This is an Instagram. I saw was born January 8th 1942 on the 300th anniversary of Galileo's death

I don't okay He died March 14th or the anniversary of Einstein's birth Okay, this is like my mom does shit like this. She's like, we lived on a, you were born in, on October 19th and we lived on a house that was 19 Oak Avenue. And Eric was born on November 27th and we bought the house on the 27th day of, you know, January and it's like, I'm like, what, and what does that mean? Well, I'll tell you what that means.

It means that when you decide that you're going to add those numbers together, then you divide it by Zelda's birthday. What you get is the winning lottery ticket number 40. Four two weeks ago, and if we don't mean me, we all I know. No wait, so is this true? Was he born on Galileo's, the anniversary of Galileo's death?

January 8th, 1642. Beautiful. And did Einstein die on March 14th? I didn't. No, sorry. Was he born, born on March 14th? Born. March 14th, 1779.

Okay, 1879. I think I'm definitely right. When you put it together, okay? Born on the 300th anniversary of Galleos death. Died. When was Kendall General born? Died on Einstein's 14th. Sorry. The anniversary of Einstein's birth on

Pi Day. He just went to the next, he went to the next level. Did he already go to the next level? He ascended to when he made all these discoveries about black holes. He is Stephen Hawking is the universe now. What we don't realize is that he is galaxy. He's he's galaxy. He's did everything. Everything is Stephen Hawking now. He's galaxy. He's galaxy. He's the galaxy. He's the, everything. Everything is Stephen Hawking now. Anyhow, it's a look, it's sad, but you know what's interesting about this. I thought people would be, you know, the internet, a lot of nerds on the internet. I should know, because that's my entirety of my world is nerds of some form.

Yeah. I thought the Stephen Hawking stuff would be much more emotional and overwrought. But I think that we're in now in the age, we may be getting to the stage of digital mourning where people don't make that big a deal out of it anymore. But I think he is a symbol because he was a scientist whose life was enabled by science. Like work was enabled by science. So it's extremely inspiring, but I think it's inspiring on the way like a historical figure is. So I think a lot of people were like, they were like ready for this emotionally. Well, yeah, he was young either.

It's not like when Robin Williams has gone and was like, but I was just watching Aladdin. Right. Is that what happened to you? You were watching Aladdin actually, you know, you heard of, you heard of Robin. I took that. Deadly, very, very and Joe and Robert's death. But you know, Stephen Hawking, I think what a bummer it must have been for him in these final years of his life to have to watch like people like Donald Trump.

Right. And like he's like, well Rick Perry will be in charge of energy. I mean, not that he, Stephen Hawking's like who cares, he threw a party for time travelers so I don't give a shit. Anyhow, what were you going to say? I think what annoys him more is probably the Neil deGrasse Tyson of it all. Cause he's like, have a sense of humor. Who Neil deGrasse Tyson?

Yeah. He doesn't have a sense of humor. No, he's the person who's like, well, actually, after like a star trek movie comes out and you're like, all right. Nobody thought this was his documentary. All right. He's like, you could never fly the spaceship upside down.

Like, I don't like it. It's like, I thought, fuck up, nobody cares. Are you treating in the theater? Because you're a monster. He's like, this is ridiculous. He's like, these planets wouldn't appear in focus. It's like, you know what, asshole? Anymore, we need to say. Speaking of science-y death. Yeah. Love it. Lure this transition. There's this company that wants to upload our brains, like San Junipero, but there you are.

Not good at much except like the freezing of the brain. I think the worst thing that Black Mirror has done to society is that now there are all these fucking Black Mirror episodes that people can quote or like reference when they're talking about things that seem crazy to them. They're like, this is just like that Black Mirror episode and it's like, no, it's not. It's just a thing that's happening.

It doesn't have to be like something. It could just be life. I'm not getting the oldest thing you've ever said. No, but it is, it is. Sure, but people's references will update. And I actually did a tweet about this recently, which I was really proud of. Sorry, go ahead. Tell me about this. Tell me about this. Well, this company freezes your brain. It kills you. You have to be dead like there. You have to, they kind of have to kill you. Then they freeze your brain and they take photos of it. And you've got like a one to one image of the brain, but that

doesn't really like you, that's not really your brain, like the electrical impulses aren't there. I think this is the damage in the observation. I think this is the great, you know, all all 14 year old nerds have thought at one time or another about this, like, what if I could upload my brain? And then you're like, and then you're like, what is it? I mean, it's like, it isn't you. What would it be? I don't know, but like I think it is. It isn't you. What would it be? I don't know. I think it is. Consciousness is an illusion.

I'm not even me. No, but it would seem like you. But I think it would be you. But what's, no, it wouldn't be you. I think it would. No, it would be a copy of you. Sure. What's the difference?

Well, the difference is there's one that's aware and conscious now in this brain. But I don't think that's true. And the next one, I think consciousness is an illusion. It's non-illusion. It's real. No, it's something your brain is telling you

is happening, but it's not really happening. Okay, but it is happening. No, really? Yeah. Well, both our brains are experiencing this as a conscious interaction. The only thing that exists is the exact moment. The memory that you just had a thought

doesn't really exist. But what I'm saying is, and by the way, maybe this gets me into some kind of real fucked up catch 22 where I'm arguing for a soul, which I'm not because soul's don't exist, because God is dead. God committed suicide actually is a very sad story. If I fact, if you really want to- Where it's actually in the news, it's been the next news stop, it's like God hung himself,

which is, I didn't see that coming. It's just, and you know what, it's weird as that he posted an Instagram. He put it on Instagram. He was alive. He did a live Instagram story. It's a tough stuff. It was him killing himself. it on Instagram. He was alive. He did a live Instagram story. This is tough stuff. That's him killing himself.

And there was no emoji for that. Which is very dark. I guess he thought that Stephen Hawking died. He couldn't go on anyhow. So that was a very morbid vignette. And I feel very bad about it. So what happens is like, okay, so I'm laying on the thing. I'm like, all right, upload my brain.

You say the thing in my brain. And then zip my brain goes over to the computer. But is there no difference between? No, because you from a second ago doesn't exist. And the you from? Do I experience the transfer in any way? No, you just open your eyes and you're in the robot. I'm not, there's no eyes.

I'm just making a difference. We open your ocular appendage cameras and you have. What if there are no cameras? Well then you exist where you exist. I just think that it's like, it's just a version of you. It's not you. Sure, but so is the you I'm talking to you right now. No, but I'm from the same literally seconds ago is not a version.

I think the only way that you're not the same or all of your molecules have been replaced in the last seven years. I think the same you you were when you were a kid. I think whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, it's a cool sound effects here. The only thing that works here is if you take the brain and you put it in something else, you know, you like put it to sleep for a little bit

and then you wake it back up. I think if it's not the actual brain, then whatever it is, is it not you? I think that's a little bit of magical thinking about me. Your brain is where you are. And once you take the brain out of the equation, it's not you anymore. But you is just a collection of memories and impulses

and like it's biological things. It would be you are. Okay, I don't want to have to correct your grammar here. Okay. You is the, I know you're saying the we virtual console is just as good as an end and end no entertainment stuff. Wrong. First off, same game. First off, why is there no switch virtual console? That is absolutely fucking outrageous. We're going to have a bonus episode three hours first off, first off, why is there no switch virtual console? That's absolutely fucking outrageous. We're going to have a bonus episode three hours and we really grieve it. Fucking outrageous.

I think I finally found a switch game that I'm somewhat interested in playing by the way, which I'll talk about in a little bit. All of them, I've been told. No, it's not all of them. It's one. But I just think that I, you know, I admire this company for their completely absurd startup idea that they're going to make tons and tons of money on it never.

They literally are like, the founder of it is like, the product is a 100% fatal. It definitely will keep you down. So Elon Musk is like, you're now 100% guaranteed to die if you use our product. People are like, where do I sign? We see the Elon Musk just set about going to Mars. He was like, the people we said will immediately probably die and we'll have to try again. I'm so bored of the fucking these, these like people in Silicon Valley who were like raised on,

they like grew up reading Neuromance and they're like, that's what the world is. And it's like, that's a science fiction book. Yeah. Like your ideas, something your ideas are so bad. I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I mean, it is, but in some ways it's worse

than the people who think that Harry Potter is politics. In some ways it's the worse because it's like this is both a reflection and like a projection and it's just not applicable to the real world. And we need to just have other terms to talk about this. Anyhow, the company is called Nectome. They'll involve your brain. Nectome. That doesn't mean that it's a great.

They can't even come up, maybe some of the pronounce Nectomy. I know. It's also serious. Either way, not good. Why not call it like vision quest or like super brain or brain upload. Brain box. Brain box.

Brain box is great. I come and do, oh I have a brain box account $99 a year. It's very good. I just uploaded my brain. I've just been really attached to the name Nectom, Nectom. Nectom.

Nectom. Nectomy. It came to me in Nectomy. Nectomy. A dream which is a simulationctomy. Nectomy, Nectomy. A dream which is a simulation. There's gonna be pretty out so many different ways in all of them sound bad. So they will,

here's what they do. They will connect people with terminal illnesses to a heart long machine while they're under anesthesia. And then they pump them full of embalming chemicals to preserve their brains. Like same. And then, I then what? And then they cut your brain into little pieces

and scam it, I believe. To a lot like, pop a roach. Come on, come on, my brain, it appears. It's exactly like pop a roach. This is my last resort. It's a suffocation, now breathe in. I mean not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that.

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I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that 10 years before that episode of Santa Fe, I'm fucking mind blowing. This is so much like a black mirror. All of this is like a, this conversation is like a black mirror episode. Yeah. It's like the one with John Ham. Just kidding. I fucking hate black mirror.

Sorry. I'm sorry. Even San Junipero is just okay. How dare it? It's just okay. I love San Junipero. You know what's a great black mirror episode though? Time and off at last, starring Burgess Meredith.

It's very, have you ever seen it? Do you want me to file it though? It will fuck you up, man. All right, moving on from that, we've got some tough social stuff. So first up of social companies doing terrible things, YouTube is gonna use Wikipedia to post facts on conspiracy videos which they won't take down otherwise.

Yeah, so the CEO of... Because people who are into conspiracies don't know how to use Wikipedia to disagree with that. It's just no danger there. I love, by the way, I love Wikipedia. Anyway, a great product. But Wikipedia is a flawed product. Everything is.

And so the idea here is Susan Wajiki. I think it's pronounced Wajiki. Wajiki. I could be Ms. Pranayotaniya. Who's the CEO of YouTube? Who's interviewed at South by Southwest. And was like, we are gonna start putting, like heads up, pop up displays or something, pop up info.

When you're watching, when you're already watching the Alex Jones Sandy Hook parents are crisis actors video. Okay, let's just wanna understand. Let's actually play this out here. Okay, you go to YouTube, trending now. The Parkland students are just crisis actors. They weren't really in a school shooting.

And Alex Jones, and he's like, Alex Jones gets on, have you ever watched Alex Jones? Of course. I had to watch a lot of Alex Jones recently because we interviewed David Hogg and during the edit, I saw a lot of Alex Jones clips. Alex Jones is so fucking stupid. I mean, I can't, it's a lie. I truly can't believe how fucking stupid this guy is. Like, it is, you know, whatever, what's the opposite of galaxy brain? Like, the brain is a rock that's a peanut size rock. That's like how you know, Jon and Sultzmo rock. That's that. The galaxy is vast and explosive.

And in the opposite, there's like two girls one cup cup. That's the biggest. Alex Jones brain is like when your brain is shriveled to a tiny little fucking peanut piece of gravel, a crazy, and even a reason. It's a crazy, it's a rock, the size of a craze in the middle of an, a, a crazy, and even a reason. It's a crazy, it's a rock. The size of a crazy in the middle of an empty, at any rate, an empty skull. It's he's so fucking stupid. And

he has Rodgers done on, I mean, you should hear this. He's like, he's like, I'm not saying, I'm not saying. It's a false flag. But the Democrats have done this before. It's like, you're even fucking out of space. I'm favorite. Is that he endorses a line of supplements that he says. Like, our soy is so bad for you to take these supplements. And then the supplements contain soy. I don't like to talk about how people look, but Alex Jones' body is like, he's like the Pillsbury doughboy if he was injected with red food dye. You know, like, he's just like a bloated ball of like sweat.

Yeah. You know, like he's just like a bloated ball of like sweat. Yeah, I mean, he has what's going on with him happened to Alec Baldwin and Jack's from Vanniform Rules, which is a thickening. Yeah. It's you, but thicker. I just think we're all the time and sweatier. I think what's true is like,

and I think if you look at some of the people across the kind of GOP slash Republican, slash right wing universe, they're definitely something happening to people physically. Like they're the, the evilness of their mind and their soul, which doesn't exist again, but whatever it is of their being, is like creeping its way to the physical into the physical form. Like I think Donald Trump has a physicality that is just like,

I'm not gonna call him like orange or whatever. I see he looks unhealthy. Yeah. He does his bad. And I'm hesitant to talk about women's appearances, but Kelly and Connery's face is like that because she's made that face so many times that it's stuck. I feel like when you're fakes myelines or everything, it can be very bad for your skin. Unless you're a vodka and you have a team of from a net comb pumping and bombing.

Oh, I'm going to keep your face in a fault. So beautiful. I mean, she weren't my daughter. And any event, they want to post these Wikipedia facts to confuse, say these videos. Wow. So people can disregard them in real time.

So there's those guys. So you're watching Alex Jones. He's like, oh, the Parklands Jones. So it both falls flat. So it both. Okay. And then while I'm watching Alex Jones a little,

there's a little pop up videos like, it is like, it's like, it's like, I don't know if you know this, but hey, fun fact for Wikipedia. On the set of it, you ought to know it. Yeah, I know it. Yeah, that's more so. It's like something like that's like,

blue at VH1. Right, yeah, it's like, it's like, a fun fact, the Sandy Hook was a real shooting that happened. Blip, blip. The parklou were 17 students killed in the parkland shooting in Florida. It's like, what is the fucking approach here? No. This is not effective.

It's like, as if these people also don't have ad filters on for this kind of stuff, but disable all of it. Here's an idea. Don't do your fucking pop up video. Okay. Yeah. Don't post it in the first place. Don't let Alex Jones up propagate

Fucking lies for money on your platform and I can see them being like well We don't know what would happen if we banned information. Well, Twitter just did it and it seems to be going fine And we've been banging them to do it for years. So maybe you do too. I was the deal. Here's the deal I've said it before and I'll say it again Your for profit business is not a free speech platform. No, it is a fucking business. Okay, when we used to ban commenters on endgag, you think it's real mad.

Okay, I ran a text I called endgag. Have you ever heard of it? It's still in business, great website. You know, you want to get a great fun review, check it out. In endgag, you'll be get people who are like, you fucking apple fanboys, race them, just like asshole, some racist people. Who the worst of the worst, okay?

We used to have a sign up, a way you could sign up, you didn't even have to provide an email address, you could just start commenting, you just get a username, okay? And we ban these fucking pieces of shit. And they'd be like, they'd send us an email, like, you're violating my freedom of speech. It's like, listen dude, the Engagiot website,

just like YouTube and Twitter and Facebook are not freedom of speech, but the biggest mistake these fucking people ever made were like, we're about free speech, freedom of speech, the fucking Jack Dorsey's like, we're a free speech platform, we're the free speech party, we're the free speech platform of the free speech party.

It's like, you know what, buddy? You're a for-profit business. You have advertisers and you've got users and your job is to generate revenue for your shareholders. Now, can they do it in a good way? Sure, but the reality is if Twitter goes, hey, you know what's bad for our overall product? Is we don't like neo-nazis making death threats to black people on our platform or to Jews? It's good for their business to ban them and they should ban them and it's not a free speech

violation. You wanna talk about how you wanna kill people, you can do it anywhere on the internet where you can put up a website. You can go anywhere you want on the internet on a forum and talk about it until you get banned. So it's like this idea that somehow YouTube has to be or Twitter or Facebook or anybody has to be this

kind of innocent, safe, you know, naive, middle ground, whatever happens is not their business is fucking bullshit. And they need the thing that is so aggravating about this is this insistence that, sorry, I'm ranting, but no, yeah, that's why I'm here. Is this insistence that go off that that they have to be this thing in order for their business to succeed, that's not true. The Nazis do not make Twitter good in any way for the vast majority of users. For Nazis, they can go on fucking gab or whatever bullshit service they dreamed up.

It's like, Twitter's job is to make Twitter really good for the vast majority of users. And people like Alex Jones, I don't care how many fucking views he has, he does not reflect the views of most people who are on YouTube. And frankly, if he's spreading, like literal, time of fake news, if he's spreading literal, fabricated, and misleading information about news stories

that are important, like a school shooting, he should not be on the fucking platform. He's violating the trust of people who use the platform, and he's poisoning the fucking water that we all have to drink. And that guy should be gone. I'm all for bed. It's not about free speech. Alex Jones can spin up his own video player and put it on Alex Jones.com.

And if he doesn't get all the people to watch his videos, what's tough fucking shit for Alex Jones? So guess your platform wasn't strong enough for people to come and watch videos on your platform. But like, the idea that YouTube has to be protective of Alex Jones's lies about people who've had their fucking children murdered is offensive to me. I mean, it is offensive to me on a personal level that somehow the value of his ability to literally spread lies about people, about news that is happening, is somehow important

in YouTube's grand scheme of its business. Because I don't think that's what their business is. I think it should be an open platform for speech. And I think that one of the violations that platform should be if you pose as a news and information source and you on more than one occasion are blatantly lying, misleading or fabricating stories about the news, there should be a fucking rule where you just get banned. I think it's weird to me that we keep coming back to whether or not these people genuinely believe in it. The like libertarian free market will take care of itself argument for everything in

it applies to speech and it applies to the economy and applies to everything because what's weird or what I guess people don't talk about is that the way that a platform or market is built inherently makes, and it isn't free. Because if you look at Instagram, I've never gotten a death threat on Instagram because I can delete a negative comment or turn comments off. And that's on Twitter, the app reply

that calls me like a rapist because I once tweeted that removing women's makeup via an app was sexist. People were adding me and saying that I was a rapist and I must be a rapist and I must be a sexist and I must hate women and that I must have violence against women because it's the only way you could come to that opinion. But that at exists now if you search. So they've built their website so that whether or not I have I've given my permission

anyone can at me and basically be searchable in my username and say whatever they want. Whereas on Instagram if I did a post and you wrote that, I could delete it and it's gone. You own some of the space that you're talking about. So YouTube's already built their platform to function away where trending things happen, where comments exist, likes, and they've built it in a way that people can exploit. So you either need to go and rebuild your platform from the ground up

or you need to put in place some checks for the flaws you know exist in what you built. I mean, I think. and that's what regulation is. So fuck free markets and fuck your free market of ideas. Wow. Okay. Ryan is more fired up about this than I am. That's impressive.

I will say, I think you hit the nail on the head is it with the way these platforms are designed. You know, to me, the solution actually, listen, actually, I'd be fine if you're like, we're not going to ban Alex Jones, but what we are going to do is demonetize him. And we're going to make sure that in the mainstream of what YouTube does, we're going to make sure because we have human beings watching and looking and figuring this out. We're going to curate what people see and not let it be out. I mean, think about what the algorithm hath wrought on YouTube, right?

I mean, the lowest common denominator content in every genre. I mean, like makeup artist, it's always the most basic. And you know what I mean? Do you like tech reviews? It's always the most middle of the road. And the most like searchable or on the flip side, the most controversial.

It's like the kids videos are just freaking out about, you know, we wrote nothing in the meta. We wrote about Peppa, the fake Peppa, pig videos long before the big, you know, the internet, something wrong on the internet. But it's like, listen, that algorithm rewarded a certain kind of video and people played into what the algorithm was asking of them. And it's like, totally makes sense.

But like Alex Jones has, it's, it's, it's, I mean, you know, fucking kids were 12 years old and they're going on YouTube and they see Alex Jones and he's like talking about how, how the, you know, David Hogg, who we interviewed, you know, he's an amazing super smart kid is a crisis actor. And those kids 13 year olds, 14 years, whatever, they're like, well, I don't know, maybe he is, you know, the maybe is, is the, is the key for all, all like right wing propaganda. The maybe is like the way that they, because it's like the facts don't matter

because I feel this way and there's some nuance and it's complicated, but I know it's true in my heart. All you do is, the most important thing is they get it. It's like you get out of there. No, look, not all people on the left are honest either. I mean, there's bullshit on both sides, not the same level. No, but there are fucking completely outrageous people on the left who are like, and Lala Land. But the reality is, you know, Alex Jones and people like him have built a business, Mike

Cernovich, this fucking guy, this month or fuck, the guy who like propagated the Pizegate rumor who fancies himself some kind of journalist, this phony piece of garbage. That is the idea that some idea that we should be that there is an equivalent nature in an equivalency between a guy like Mike Sirnovature Alex Jones and like people who work for for and I don't mean mainstream, but just people who are actually practicing real journalism. You know, what they do is like it's like rumor mongering, scare mongering, lying with a side of accidental. So once in a while, they talk about something that is right or that they have something

that is like, really, and they can trade on that one little thing. It's the Ben Shapiro of it all. You have Ben Shapiro, the fucking, one of the worst. He's one of the worst. And it's also, he exists so that people can say, like, you know, we're not anti-Semitic, we can't be Nazis because we hang out with Ben Shapiro. And that is the part of the problem, I think YouTube needs to-

Talk about the health- That's so hating, that's so hating Jew. But part of the problem is the comments section that then propagate and obviously the things that are actually in the video. Dude, we, we, I mean, so we did, I mentioned- They should disable monetization and comments. I mean, we, I can't tell you, we, so we did this video-

We just delete the videos. On, I mentioned this, but we went down to Parkland and met David Ha, went to his house, went to met his parents and talked to these kids. I'm actually looking now because I want to see, I haven't checked on this in a long time. So we did a video where we had a very raw conversation with him. I mean, he just basically was like unedited. He was tired.

He was hungry. He just came in, sat down and we had this very raw conversation. And I love the conversation. He's a super smart kid. And he's been through, I mean, it's insane to me these teenagers in Parkland went from literally hiding in a closet or a hallway or literally watching their friends and they're like snapchat videos of this guy shooting people. And then the next day, two days, whatever, they're like, we're not going to shut up about this.

We're not going to say, take your thoughts and prayers and go away. We want to talk about it now, and they've been talking about it relentlessly. And they're actually really affecting. When I think about, just to, I mentioned Sandy Hook before, sorry, this is very dark. We're very dark here. But Sandy Hook before. Sorry, it's a very dark, we're very dark here.

But, you know, Sandy Hook is an insane, was an insane crime. Like, my brain almost like is chest trouble process. Like, I honestly don't think that anyone besides those parents can understand the gravity of what we're talking about. And the fact that it gets thrown around, like, it's insane. I mean, you know, we're talking about, like the level of suffering.

I mean, we're talking about what young children who were like fucking shot to death with this weapon, this fucking weapon that it makes like great, prood-sized holes in people. I mean, I really want you to fucking think about, right? Like, these are children, they're fucking babies, you know? And, and, and I look, I, as a father, you know, it definitely is something that I've thought a lot about. I mean, I've always hated guns. I think guns are the worst, one of the worst inventions, I mean, insane invention.

The fact that we let people buy them willingly in this country is absolute madness. I mean, there's a, America has this sexual fucking obsession with guns, which is truly disturbing. But I really want people, and if you're listening to this, and people who are listening has probably agreed with me to some extent, or else, else like you definitely turn me the fuck off. I mean, you would shut this podcast off, but really think about what that means, to have

a child shot to death for no fucking reason. And then think about the people who would get up. Think about the students in Parkland, they are teenagers. I don't care if they look mature, I don't care if they speak in an intelligent way. They're still 17, 16, 15 fucking year old kids. Think about what it's like to get up and say, I want this to stop, I saw my friends die.

And then to have these fucking people, like Ben Shapiro, this small-minded fucking troll who somehow has gained credibility. People like these right-wing Alex Jones, these conspiracy theorists, to say a fucking word about them, a bad word about them. It's like, you don't know shit. The Ben Shapiro has been through nothing. He's a person who's lived a fucking life of total. This is all theoretical to Ben Shapiro.

Ben Shapiro is like the second amendment. You don't fucking know what it's like to see a fucking hole the size of a point. This is just an argument about a point. A fucking hole in somebody's body, you know, like a friend of yours who, 10 minutes earlier, was a fucking alive, you know. And these armchair fucking quarterbacks of the right wing with their conspiracy theories and their fucking equivocating and their defense of this bullshit ideal, the second amendment, read the fucking second amendment, it's

not about AR fucking 15s, it is not about- And also, some of our amendments have been wrong before. Let's just completely say that the second amendment says you're entitled to automatic weapons. Like I'll be clear, I don't even shit about the second amendment. I mean either. I mean, it's like, it's like clear, I don't even shit about the second amendment. I mean, either. I mean, it's like, it's like, it's not gonna shit about most, like the Constitution to me is not as important

as the core ideas that the Constitution is. You're well-armed militia in the context of America in 2018 and beyond is nothing. Like if the government wants to fuck with you, you have nothing, you have no power, okay? Well, like, to start there, but even like if you wanted to get into the language, it's not even as definitive as, as to say that like, oh, like the whole states rights thing,

like the idea that the NRA was so pro states rights from a constitutional law perspective, and then Florida now is moving forward with some control legislation and their anti-states rights. That this isn't about that. No, it's never, it's, look, the hypocrites, I mean, there's never been a larger group of hypocrites than people in the right wing. Like the GOP, people in the GOP who are like, how dare this man have an extra marital affair.

They have the slimmiest fucking most, you know, sexually deviant president in history. A guy who's, you know, they're like backing people like Roy Moore, who's a literal fucking like rapist and fucking sex harasser and abuser. You know, that party is so bankrupt morally. I mean, there is no moral high ground for those people. And it's so weird that there's like some equivalence with the Democrats because it's like you don't have to love the Democrats to admit that there is literally no equivalence there.

You can have problems with anything. You know, there's no similarities. But anyhow, the gun thing is like, listen, you want to own guns, you want to buy guns. Like, I mean, for most people who want to own and buy guns, they're probably fine. They just like them. They like to have, it's like, I have a bunch of,

I have a bunch of hobbies. I like to do that. I can't do so. No, I, you know, it's like, I have a bunch of smartphones. I like fucking around with them. Okay, cool. You like to go out, you live in a place where you can go out and shoot fucking bottles or whatever.

You want to, I mean, of course, I'm very anti-hunting, but you know, if that's what you want to do, if you think it's cool to like kill an animal who literally has no defense whatsoever and you're holding a fucking high-powered gun. That makes you feel like a man, if that gives you a boner, good for you. But like, bye.

Fucking video game. But like, but listen, but so, but the reality of it is it's like it should be hard as fuck to do to get a gun. I love driving hard. It is to have a car. It's ridiculous. Yeah. The barrier to entry is bullshitting. You have to renew your license all the time. And everyone seems to be able to do it. Yeah, it's insane. You have to pay insurance. You have to pay for the car. Like, anyhow sum up. Let's get off the switch. You just attack such a depressing topic. But to sum up, Alex Jones, the piece of shit, Ben Shapiro is the worst. And YouTube needs to get a shit together. This Wikipedia pop-up video stuff is a complete, in my opinion, a total deflection of responsibility

when they need to actually evaluate what their service is and does and who it's for and how it should be used. And they're not doing that. There's no reflection here. They're like, oh, yeah, if a lie is there, we'll tell you the truth. It's like, that's not really how it works. It's like, stop the propagation of lies. Yeah, if that fact checking worked, we would have had the results lead in the 2016 election,

which spent the entire time talking about fact checking. Right. It's completely absurd. And well, to transition the next news story we have here. Let's get on something. I'll joyous and upbeat. Well, it's, it's, it's completely absurd. And well, to transition, um, the next news story we had here. Let's get on something. I've joyous and upbeat. Well, it's not very upbeat. What is it? But the, the piece that went up about video games and, and violence, oh yeah. Yeah. Because the president's stand on, uh, all this gun violence is that it's a EA's fault. Uh, we did an interview with the Alfie bone or boundowne who wrote this book, The PlayStation Dream World.

Just talked about the relationship between video games and human beings. And look, I mean, it's mainly interesting right now because there are these Trumps like, I mean, Trump, you know, whatever. There's so much to say about Trump and I'd rather not. But, you know, it's like the, when you think I can't get any dumber, it just always does and he's like, it's video games. And he's like, I wanna hold a meeting about video games and gun violence.

It's like, listen man, you know, if video games were the really the problem, I think we would know at this point. I think we'd really have a, we'd really have a much clearer sense of what the, you know, let's say, I mean, I think the thing about it is, like, let's say you play Call of Duty, and you're like, man, this looks awesome.

I gotta kill some people. It's like, okay, that's definitely a problem. That may, may that happens to some people. They're like playing Call of Duty and they decide, I wanna do this for real. The problem is not that. I mean, that's obviously something that needs to be addressed with mental health,

like, not about, it's not about making the video game. Look, I mean, violence's obviously something that needs to be addressed with mental health, like not about. It's not about making the video game. Look, I mean, violence is all around us. It's like, there is violence in TV and in film and literally, like, you know, violence has been depicted in books since the beginning of books. But you think seeing a virtual gun makes you violent. How does that not translate into real world guns? I think it's not violence, my problem. It's a virtual.

I think if seeing a virtual gun makes you feel like you want to do violence, what is holding a real gun make you feel like you want? Well, but, but the right, but the, it's like, okay, there's a mental health issue there that needs to be addressed. Yeah. Not a game issue. Not like make the games nicer. I mean, I think by the way, I think the best point in this though wasn't even that.

I think the best point in this was that the games are, they make you, they draw you in with the promise of violence, but it's a transformative experience because they're using it to make a statement and make you feel a certain way. So like when you see violence in video games, sometimes it's shocking or it's like a, it's a transformative thing. So you go in there and you start killing people and then you realize the reality of that or the gravity of that or it's used to make a statement. Nobody actually got hurt. You got drawn in with those impulses

and maybe have them transformed for you. And you can argue about individual games and what their messages are and why they employ violence. But it's a weird to blanket state an entire like fictional, like, oh, so we can't write about violence either. It's just weird. It's weird to from the same people who are making free speech arguments and like guns are good arguments. You can't

make guns or free speech or good arguments and then say that video games with guns are bad. I mean, I think there's a really interesting passage in this interview where, where, you know, Alfie says, the game does have the capacity in my opinion to construct and create impulses and desires, which they, which the individual feels to be their own. And I think that, you know, there's a conversation about dreams and I think, you know, what's really interesting is, it's possible to get a notion, right? It's possible to make this one-to-one line between what it might make

you feel or think or what it might make you consider versus the action of doing it, right? That you could imagine it doesn't mean that you would do it, right? And I think that the thing is more than anything. I think about pushing people in front of the subway all the time. I'm never gonna do it. That feels like a very specific way.

But if you see someone standing and the train is coming, it crosses their mind. I mean, you're gonna do it. It's very sick and I'm very disturbed. By hearing that, that makes me very upset. What I will say is this, you may think all you want that you wanna get a fucking machine gun and shoot a bunch of people.

Yeah. If you can't get the machine gun, it's very hard to do. It's very hard to do. And there are, there is case after case after case that proves people are like, well, they really want to kill somebody. It's like, people don't, typically what people don't, they're like, they're not like,

I want to kill people no matter what. They get fixed on a very specific way of killing a romanticized. Right. And what has been romanticized in this country is the fucking cowboy with the gun. And what we see is the cowboy with the gun. Or even just the Dylan roof of it all of like, I'm a super villain. Yeah, we don't see a lot of got people who want to kill people get a truck. Yeah, it happens.

And they're not going to drive through the hallways of a school with the truck. They're not going to wait. They might. And guess what? If you did, how many people can you hit at once with the truck? That's right. How do you look at you step with the night when you get on the truck? You can only get the truck so far.

Look at me, guys. It's very fucking hard. But also, do you think having this conversation at all puts it on a conversation we're having on Republican terms? Because now instead of talking about banning guns, we're talking about protecting video games. I mean, have they already won by us doing that? No, they have.

I mean, in the long run, what I believe firmly is in the long run most of the ideas that the GOP holds near and dear are wrong and will fail. And I think that like, I will say this, we're in a dark time in history, but like, honestly, and I feel this optimism about a lot of things, like there's a, you know, I still feel optimism about technology, and I feel optimism about politics.

What I feel is that, I mean, it's hard to see it now, but the March, I mean, unless we get into it, it's really, truly, totalitarian fascist environment in this country, which I hope we are really our far away from, and I feel that I feel pretty strongly that we are far away from it, and we're gonna fix what is broken right now. But like the march of humanity is progressive is towards progressive thinking

and progressive behavior. It progressive, progressive thought and I don't mean I'm not talking about a political party here. Progressivism is what has gotten us to where we are now and is what will get us over the next mountain that we've got to climb. I really believe that more compassion, more understanding, more openness, more freedom will be is the way forward for humanity. Like I don't think what the Republicans believe in, you know, Judeo-Christian ideals wrapped up with a bunch of weird, puritanical stuff about like our bodies and our sex and like all that shit, a, a, a, proclivity towards violence, exclusion versus inclusion, you know,

a, a, like essentially closed versus open in terms of their approach to the world. I think that is, you know, they talk about globalist, but globalism is a fucking, I don't mean like in the economic sense, there are problems with the global picture of economics right now. But in the sense of like when we think about human beings, the idea of being more open to other people, you know, I don't assume that people want to do me harm. Yeah.

I don't. I don't walk through the world going like the people around me are bad and have to be stopped. I think most of these people are good. Most of these people want to do at least if not, maybe they don't want to do a good thing, but they don't want to do a bad thing. And so I think that, you know, talking about this is really interesting, but I do believe that at the end of the day, that shit loses in the long run. I think that my child and the children

that are growing up now will see so much of what exists as the GOP and the Republican Party and conservative politics and the right wing here and elsewhere in other countries as so outmoded with what they believe reality and humanity to be that it's going to be very difficult. I mean, just purely on, let's just, I mean, there's a reason why there are a bunch of fucking racists purely on, purely on the way. Well, it's like, there's even this round.

I don't think there are ideas one. I think one was like pure, pure emotion. I mean, it was like a fucking one. More than I think this is an accident. I mean, Trump is an accident. Let's hope. Oh, no, I mean, I think Trump is a fluke. I mean, it was like a fucking one. More than anything, this is an accident. I mean, Trump is an accident. Let's hope. Oh, no.

I mean, I think Trump is a fluke. I think so too, but let's say he won by 70,000 votes. We had an apathetic, very apathetic voter. I mean, the combined powers of both racism from Obama and sexism from Hillary Clinton is not to be discounted. No. The hacking, the way the media currently was working. Oh, listen, I mean, everything that could have gone wrong in terms of,

I was a perfect swim. I mean, also like Hillary is an in-per-very imperfect, I mean, I, listen, I love Hillary, and I think she would have been a much, much, much better president than Trump by any, any way you would fucking measure it. She's a genius politician. Like, I say what you will about Hillary. She's a genius politician. She's very, very fucking good at it. She's a genius politician. Like I say what you will about Hillary, she's a genius politician. She's very, very fucking good at it. And, but anyhow, the point is, a perfect storm of things happen. Yes, the coming off of Obama and the racism that followed

that, the disillusionment with Obama, where people felt like he was going to be this massive change agent, but it felt very much like, I think people were disappointed that hope and change don't happen in a year. No, that's not how it works. But that's, you've got young voters out there and even not so young voters who for the first time in a long time heard somebody who sounded like, especially coming off a bush, wow, like this guy's gonna fucking really change.

And by the way, a lot of stuff did change, but it's incremental. It changes hard. In this country, in this world, change is always gonna be incremental. Try to do anything in life. It's not easy. It's very fucking hard to make things happen.

And when you win the lottery, your life gets ruined. Yeah. Well, instead work really hard towards your goals and incrementally get, try things out. And I don't know. I'd be fine with winning the lottery for the record. But yeah, the point is that I think that overall, like, I do feel like, you know, I don't think the future is Trump or the Republicans. No.

That doesn't look like the future to me. And they want it badly. They want it. Their biggest fear is, is young people who aren't white. Yeah. Their biggest fear. And that's why you see all the shit, the wall and the fucking, all these ice policies and immigration policies that are meant to penalize and hurt people, the docker stuff,

all of Trump's fucking rhetoric around the white power groups and their gay people. Well, white people thought that they were going to get all this stuff. They thought that they would be handed a tie and prestige and money and it didn't happen. And now they think, well, now it's going to go away forever. Now no one will ever get it. And I was promised it. Right.

And in the simple truth is, there's sub, look, there's subjugation of the poor by the very rich. And that is what, like, a big part of this country has been for a very long time. The wealthy and the people who have things want to subjugate people who are not wealthy and don't have things. They found a really good way to get the poor white people on their side by going, it's all the brown people that are problem, not you. You're just about to make it happen.

They have this literally what they did, right? And so as a result, yeah, they sold in this bullshit where it's like, and now suddenly, you know, why, poor white people are like, wait a second, I'm white, I'm not supposed to be porn, it's like, yeah, guess what? Everybody's in the same fucking boat.

We're all battling, you know, the fucking billionaire class and the class that is in power, got this really got political. Anyhow, those people, their job is to subjugate and keep you fucking quiet and keep you out of the mix. And it doesn't matter what color you are. You've just been lied to for a long time.

So that's why I actually feel kind of like not sympathy, but I feel bad for how ignorant these fucking neo-nauties are. It's like you think you think you are like rising to the dawn. You're even being the fucking dominant classic. Donald Trump isn't a white suit. I mean, he's a white suit. You can understand, but not sympathy. Donald Trump's a white supremacist. He's only going to be suit. I mean, he's a white. You can understand, but not some. Donald Trump's a white supremacist. I'm going to be wrong. I think his race is as

fuck, but I think more importantly than him being racist, he's rich. And he's surrounded by people who are rich. And their job is to stay rich and stay in control. So in many ways, he's like every other politician. And in many ways, he's not. He is absolutely a racist who actually wears it on his sleeve more than fucking Paul Ryan does. But Paul Ryan's a fucking racist too. You can be sure of it. Make no mistake about it. Anyhow, all right, let's. All right. So look, let's, let's pull up out of just for the, for the, for the, because we're getting, I think we're pretty close on time here. Let's pull about of this very dark Josh rant about politics. By the way, I want to make

it clear. Many of these episodes of the new tomorrow are not going to be me ranting about Trump and gun control. I am actually, I really, well, most will be about that. But I am very excited about a lot of other things that are going on, particularly like the outline. I'm very excited about the outline. We've done some really cool reporting and stuff lately. We have a really funny story that went up. This will be up on Friday, but on Thursday, one of our, a woman, Emily Brown, who was one of our interns in the very early days, wrote this story about learning how to ride a bike, which I don't know if you see, but she didn't know how to ride a bike. She's like in her 20s. And it's like her kind of travel log of taking bike lessons and like with photos and stuff of the bike class.

And I didn't even know this was a thing and it never occurred to me. I just figured everybody knows how to ride a bike. Yeah, or you have no interest in it. Right. Or like you don't care. You're like, whatever. It's a really funny story. And so we're doing a lot, I'm excited. We're doing a lot of cool stuff. We have a lot of cool product stuff that we've rolled out. We started doing this thing called Side Note, which is like, you know, we find this stuff

all the time and we're like, this is cool, but like, I don't want to write. I'm not going to write a big piece on it. Yeah. And we've been like, the Kendall Jenner thing was a story where it's just like, you know, we find this stuff all the time and we're like, this is cool, but like, I don't want to write, I'm not going to write a big piece on it. Yeah. And we've been like, the Kendall Jenner thing was a story where it's just like, we have like, not necessary. We have a little observation. It's like a little bloggy, but it's also more like, this is stuff that we think is interesting.

A lot of times it's like in the middle of an article, it need like in the middle of a time story or a lay, if you're reading something, you'll find like an interesting sort of number or quote or whatever. And it's like, oh, that's really interesting. And it doesn't, you don't, it doesn't normally have a spotlight on it. And then sometimes it's like, I just want to talk about like this. One of the actual, the reasons this thing was born partially at least was because I was like, I want to write about like, I was having this Twitter conversation about the Robocop

theme music from the Game Boy game, the Robocop Game Boy game. Have we talked about this? Yeah, we talked about it. Got him such a broken record. Anyhow, but like, I was like,, I'm gonna do a quick thing on it. You're passionate about what you're passionate about. Yeah, I was like, it's so good. I'm just gonna fucking put a thing up

and then I was like, we should really have like a format that is like perfect for this. Cause like our actual, we have all these different cool like things you can do with a post, but they're like, they're for more like original writing and reporting and like interactive stuff. And so anyhow, so we built this thing, which I'm excited about.

We've been doing a lot of fun little experiments with them. But we're moving to a new office. This is the most exciting thing for me. We have a new office in Chinatown. It's beautiful. It's very cool. You've been there. It's like, it's like a secretary there.

Super white. I mean, this is, they painted the entire, everything white in the office. It's like white floor is white, ceiling white wall. It's like the most. It's chic, but scary in the way that like a Kanye aesthetic is. I actually heard yeah, you were there with chic, but I'm nervous. You were there with Elias who you guys went up because it's like definitely like it's New York, but it's like it's clean. But the building's very New York. Yeah, it's like you look at the outside of it and it's

like graffiti and like it looks like old school like real New York. And then you go in and then like there's kind of a scary stairwell and then you go in the office and it's like a really beautiful space. Like it's so chic, but I'm just so scared because one day I'm going to spill sauce. You spill red wine. It's going to be that. That's why I could never interact with some of the fashionable. Yeah, it's true. It's true.

Anyhow, so I'm excited about that. We're moving into matter of days. And, and, and, and, oh, and I just found out the back of the building is like all light pink. It's just really dope looking. And we have a fire escape we can hang out on. So I'm very excited. That's our like, we're so not,

these other media companies, they're like, we're in the World Trade Center and we're like, World Trade Center has rats. We're in like, we have all white floors. We're like in a Chinatown building that has our cool fire escape. Anyhow, I'm happy to not be in the World Trade Center. But that's fun.

And then she's, oh, like I should talk about this. So a cool fire escape. Anyhow, I'm happy to not be the one who tries to break that. But that's fun. And then, oh, I should talk about this. I'm going to plug a bit. You guys should be listening. We do world this batch. If you listen to this, you should be listening to world this batch. It's fucking fascinating. Aaron Edwards hosts it.

We do it all week long, produced by James Green. And it's just the most fascinating little like. so we do like sort of vignettes from stories that we do are like pieces of those stories that you don't normally hear in the stories. Sometimes like this, like today, we, or yesterday, we did a story about junkie XL. They're both complete pictures or they're both, they're both a complete dog. You get to have one or the other, they're compatible together. Yeah, you don't need to have both, but it's like, and sometimes they're totally original.

But anyhow, world dispatch, you've got to subscribe, go on iTunes or pocket cast or whatever and like seriously, like to me, it's such a great thing because we do, no episode is really longer than about, you know, if they go 15 minutes, that would be long. They're short, they're compact. It's not trying to be the daily. It's like our original idea was like,

it's not even trying to be the articles that you're sometimes talking about. It's just a completely original. Our original idea was like NPR from like the Stranger Things universe. Yeah, It's just a completely original. Originally, I think it was like NPR from like the Stranger Things universe. Yeah. It's just a weird little nugget of brilliant, fascinating, information, conversation every morning.

We put there up early in the morning so you will probably be listening to them on your commute. And then you can also get them on Google Home. It's in the newsfeed on Google Home if you listen if you use that. And Alexa, there's an outline skill that you can also get them on Google Home. It's in the newsfeed on Google Home, if you listen, if you use that. And Alexa, there's an outline skill that you can add so you can put it into your, I don't know, when do you know the process for that for Alexa?

Yeah, you have to go onto your Amazon account. So how, if you own an Alexa, generally you can organize your skills through your Amazon account, and then you can just search outline, should come up and you can organize your skills through your Amazon account. And then you can just search outline, should come up and you can add it, and you can put it into your briefing or daily briefing. I'm gonna tweet about it right now, just live.

I don't have an Alexa. Yeah, I don't, I unplug my Alexa because I think she, I just want all of my things to stop talking to me. PlayStation always asked me if I meant to talk to it, and I'm like, no, I just said the word, please. Um, the, the, I think what happened is. I think what happened is my Alexa, uh,

did I tell you this story? I was talking to Laura one day, we had the Alexa and the Den. And then I got a notification on my phone. And it was like, your wheelbarrow is on the way. Oh no. And I was like, what is going on? And I had it, okay, now in my defense or in defense of Alexa, I had been shopping for wheelbarrows.

And you laughed at me the other day when I said that your best skill is comparison shopping. You got so mad. I am very good at it. You just said that. So I had been shopping for wheelbarrow. So I've been decorating, of course, personally decorating the new office. Yeah. I spent seven hours on Sunday looking at mirrors for the bathrooms.

I mean, I'm serious like, they're going to get a speaking one like in a Disney night. It's a, it's fine. It's, do we get the mirrors yet? Are they in? Yeah, they're in. Oh, fuck, that's so great. Are they too big? I haven't put them up yet.

We got to look. Okay. Anyhow, but, but I had been shopping for wheel burrows because I needed one to haul some things around the house. And, but I put one in my save for later. But I think somehow something I said, Alexa picked up as buy that wheel barrel and save for later or whatever. Can you unseal the barrel and then it said wheelbarrow and impede for it? I don't know.

And I called them. So first of all, I've ever called Amazon. I don't know, you could call them. Yeah, I was like, how? I always do the chat. I was like, why did, like what happened here? And they're like, we don't know. They're like, we're escalating this to like level two

tech support. And then I never heard back from them. Oh They're like, we're escalating this to like level two tech support. And then I never heard back from them. Oh. And they then they just took it out of my level two. They took it out of my level two. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It was something like that, right?

Whatever it is. No, but world disbatch listen to it. And, uh, no, we're gonna have some exciting news. There's a bunch of stuff upcoming that I'm very excited about. I'm, and the outline is, you know, we're in our, we're in our second official year in 2018. It's been off to a really good start. We've done some really fucking cool stories. I'm very excited. We have some great new editors. And it's just, yeah, just a lot of shit going on. I've been very busy.

Part of this, part of the, you know, part of the hiatus was like just needing to deal with other things for a little bit. Not just the complexity of the show, but just needing to deal with other things for a little bit, not just the complexity of the show, but just needing to deal with life for a minute, anyhow, now I'm back and better than ever. And I'm excited. I'm so excited to be here with you, Ryan, of course, and with you, Winton. But most importantly, with Tony, who I love and respect.

And I'm so thankful that he's decided to subscribe and stay subscribed to the tomorrow podcast. To give us a reading and a good Tony, you're crushing it. We'll be back next, oh, we're doing the show every week. Yes, we're back on a weekly basis. So that's the show. Follow us on Twitter. Follow us on Twitter.

Wait, do we have a Twitter account? No, follow each of us on Twitter. Follow us on Twitter. Ryan, who at Ryan, who'll hand. Yeah, I have fun things coming eventually. No announcements at the moment, but Fun shows. Oh, yeah, Ryan's we're gonna a bunch of stuff seem to be very cool and then at Josh Witspolski I mean I assume you follow me, but maybe not and and follow the outline add outline world dispatches

at outline dispatch, right and And yeah, anyhow, so we'll be back next week. All right, that's it, that's our show. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Well, that is our show for this week. We will be back next week with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best, though I have just been informed that your family uploaded their brains to the computer, but the files are all passed,

were protected, and nobody knows the password. you