Tomorrow - 124: Facing Off an Impossible Mission

Episode Date: July 20, 2018

Since Josh is currently off on an impossible mission of his own, he and Ryan recorded a very special episode of Tomorrow about his favorite film in the Cruise Missile oeuvre, Mission Impossible III. W...ill they discuss Phillip Seymour Hoffman's raw animal magnetism? Yes. Will they discuss the plausibility of a Face Off scenario? Surely. Will they discuss the television show Under the Dome? In song. So before you head off to the Vatican to binge-watch Alias, come along with Josh, Ryan, Keri Russell, and Ethan Hunt for a discussion that blends Jabra headphones and Laurence Fishburne in ways you've never heard before. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey and welcome to tomorrow I'm your host Joshua Tupulski. Today on the podcast we discuss Tom Cruise, Cruise, comma Thomas, and the Cruise Missile. I don't want to waste one minute. Let's get right into it. Welcome to a special edition, the Tomorrow podcast. Not your usual Tomorrow Podcast. Say your grandfather's tomorrow. I'm of course here with Ryan Hulaan. Still here, still trapped in the room. Have I ever talked to you about the restaurant
Starting point is 00:00:53 at Hulaan's in Pittsburgh? I think we have briefly. They have very good ranch dressing. That's all I can tell you. I think it's owned by the Hershey's company and I used to get asked and I was a kid like, did your family own that restaurant? Is that true? If I owned that restaurant, I wouldn't be talking to you.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Exactly. You're like, I wouldn't be buying street drugs from you. Actually. Uh, uh, whole hands? I think their salads also had very big croutons. There's another one. They've got a wacky menu, like a big menu full of like weird things.
Starting point is 00:01:21 There's still open. You can go to whole hands. My memory is that it was like kind of an off brand TGI Friday. Yeah, with like, like, better choices. Like better than TGI Friday. Yeah, they mean they were trying to compete. I mean, I don't want to, I'm not trying to
Starting point is 00:01:33 shit talk our sponsor TGI Friday's. Oh, by the way, this tomorrow is brought to you by TGI Friday's. Get those Fred String Beans. Yeah, they have pretty good. You can two people can eat two adult humans can eat a dinner for $10. That seems okay, right?
Starting point is 00:01:47 Mm-hmm. That dinner is basically lean cuisine, but you're in a fun place with crazy shit on the wall. I think so. Didn't T.J. Friday's do a redesign where they have like they took all the flair off the wall. I miss the flair then. Anyhow. Anyhow. Anyhow, that's not here.
Starting point is 00:02:00 We're here to discuss. This is a special bonus episode. So you're missing. You're missing an action. Missing. Missing. We're on to discuss. This is a special bonus episode. So you're missing. I'm missing an action. Missing. Missing on the world's carbon and tonnipolsky. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I'm on a mission, an impossible mission. And that's what this episode is about. We're, you know, there is a new mission impossible film coming out. It's called Mission Impossible Fallout. Fallout, not to be confused with Skyfall James Bond Skyfall three mission possible. I'm gonna I'm gonna get that one punch stuff in my console here at mission Impossible got a new old MacBook I
Starting point is 00:02:37 Need to disambiguate this letter. Neemway was in mission impossible. Did you know that at one point on TV? Nope, we're not here to talk about the TV show, which is bullshit and can kiss my ass. I didn't even know that these were re-boot. We're here to talk about you, didn't? Nope. We're here to talk about the film series starring Tom Fucking Cruise.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Oh, here we go. The Cruise Missile. The Cruise Missile. Which features the film's Mission Impossible, Mission Impossible 2, directed by John Woo, if I recall correctly. Mission Impossible 3, which is the Mission Impossible
Starting point is 00:03:13 we're going to be talking about today. It's only Mission Impossible 3, just focusing on 3. Mission Impossible goes Pro to Call. It's just a great title. All of these titles are great. Mission Impossible, Rogue Nation. And crowd of all. And now in 2018, Mission Impossible.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Followed. Followed out. So, a couple of things about this. Yes, the second one is, the first Mission Impossible is directed by Brian DiPolma, which is crazy. Crazy. That's crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I really should go back and watch that. I mean, Brian De Palma directed, I mean, let's talk about the film. Sorry, I noticed as we said, we were only going to talk about the third one. I mean, this guy directed some crazy shit, Carrie. I mean, we got to get their big drill out. If we're going to talk about, but he dressed, he, he, he directed blowout. Mm-hmm. Scarface, body double. Oh. The untouchables, bonfire of the vanities. These are some of these are bombs. Carly does way.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Raising cane, which is a film starring John Lithgaugh, where I, I heard an interview with him where he talks about how to seem crazy in that movie, he like, didn't blink. He never blinked in any of his scenes or something. Or there's like a scene where he's losing it and like it's like a four minute monologue and he never blinked.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I don't know, that's good. That's cool. Okay, anyhow, so there's a new mission possible coming out as everybody who's listening to the Tomorrow Podcast knows as everybody in the world knows, I'm a big Tom Cruise fan. You know, I met him. You've been hyping the release of this film
Starting point is 00:04:48 since the show started. Okay, so, so, so I will say this, I saw the first trailer for this movie and I'm like, this looks fucking good. You like lost your mind. I was like, this is what the Avengers wishes it was. Okay. This is like the Avengers. That's exactly what you said.
Starting point is 00:05:01 The Avengers for adults. Yeah, that's what you said. Yeah, that's right. And I, they made, they've released some further trailers and they all, I don't watch any of this. So they have the last stuff. It's like, you know, like behind the scenes. I don't wanna see any behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I wanna see only the scenes. I don't wanna see anything about the making of. I don't wanna know how you made it. I wanna just see the thing you made. No, and the thing where there are always like, time-crested all his own stunts only broke three bones. You're like, well, what? I know, that's cool. But you made it. No. I want to just see the thing I made. No, and the thing where there are always like, Tom Cruise did all his own stunts, only broke three bones. You're like, what?
Starting point is 00:05:26 I know, that's cool. But like, it's cool. But like, I would watch him doing the stunts, I guess. I don't know. Kind of, but like, that sees very 2004. Like, if I had a DVD and I was really excited about the thing and I had nothing else to watch, I guess. It's like watching a painter mix paint.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Like, I don't want you to mix paint. I don't want you to paint before it's finished. You know what you never want to see? A joke writer, right? Joke. Yeah, how do he do the eyes on that face? Like who cares? Who cares, right?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah, the joke writer, yeah, the workshop in the punch line. The re-wording of sentence. I mean, your side felt basically made a second career out of that, but, you know, of course. But is anyone watching? I don't know. I don't think so. No, everybody's like, you got to watch comedians and cars
Starting point is 00:06:03 getting caught. Those people lied to you. I did try to watch one episode of it. He's the worst part. It's bad. I don't know. Cars are bad. I don't like the loza. I don't know what product placement is so bad.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I don't know what people see in the show. No, the conversations are meaningless. And he makes like three gay jokes per episode and you're like, why didn't we leave you in the 90s? I like what's a gay joke that science always make? He's like says at one point to Alec Baldwin. They're like looking at each other's eyes and he's like, you give't we leave you in the 90s? I like, what's a gay joke that science always make? He's like, says at one point to Alex Baldwin. They're like, looking at each other's eyes and he's like, you give off a gay vibe, Alec.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I love that about you. Or at one point, he's just like, he'll be sitting with someone and they'll have their hand out and he'll just like, grab their hand and be like, are we gay now? And then they go back to what they were talking about. I think like, maybe you're not funny anymore. I feel like Alcabal would maybe as buy
Starting point is 00:06:42 and he's not really public about it. I don't think so. I think Stephen Colbert is by. I get a very by vibe from Alec Baldwin. I feel like every time we have sex. A lot of stuff happened in the 80s that we don't have. Every time we're fucking about. I'm like, I think you're by.
Starting point is 00:06:55 No, you're dicks the best place to do coke. It reminds me of my favorite onion article, which may or may not be politically correct anymore. What is that? It's from the 90s. I believe the headline is, why do all these homosexuals keep talking about cock? Yeah. No, that's the best. It's really really good. It's a guy who's like, look, I don't have any problem with gay people, but please stop sucking my cock. It's like the one I read this week.
Starting point is 00:07:20 That was like nine year old left alone with Facebook for 10 minutes. Now things we need to protect the Aryan race. That's really good. I can tell you I read I read that article. The why do all these homosexuals keep sucking my cock? Hey, I think it holds up. Yeah, that does. That's a great joke. It's really just about fuck you.
Starting point is 00:07:38 But the entire article is like normally a non-union articles. Like it's sometimes it's only as good as the headline. Yeah. This one I feel like actually all the way through. Well, that was like the 9-11 terrorists surprised to find themselves in hell. That got published like the week after 9-11 and it was like a picture of them like what?
Starting point is 00:07:53 So so wrong. You know, they said that they said the jokes were dead after 9-11. They hadn't met Larry the cable guy. They didn't know they had big bang theory was the right thing to go in. They had met Jeff. Oh, who's the guy with the fucking the dead Arab, the really fun. They had Jeff. No, Donum. Yeah, Jeff. They're all the blue collar
Starting point is 00:08:14 calling guys are some version of Jeff. Yeah. Anyway, mission impossible three. Yeah, so mission impossible three. Speaking of post 9-11. Speaking of post 9-11, well Mission Impossible 3 was created in 2006. But it was in development for a long time. I don't know. Well, actually, there was, I think there was a big gap. 2006 year gap. And the script was rewritten like 100 times.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Six year gap between the second Mission Impossible directed by John Wil, which features the most amazing, one of the most amazing scenes of all time where two people fly off of motorcycles and join in a violent embrace in mid-air. I believe that happens in mission possible too. We're like two people going to the opposite direction. Tom Cruise me one of them. Because you know, by the way with Tom Cruise, it's all about, he's like, how can I get a motorcycle into this movie? Oh yeah. Because he loves motorcycles. This, okay, wait, so there's a scene in this movie where he's just a normal guy in the suburbs.
Starting point is 00:09:09 He's laying low. He works at the transportation. We're getting, I don't want to jump into that. I don't want to get too far, but he's just laying low. And then we immediately cut to him looking cool as shit on a motorcycle. And you're like, that's not lying low. It's also like a scene in the garage,
Starting point is 00:09:23 I know, so he takes a call in the garage or whatever. And there's a motorcycle in the background. Yeah. I was kinda like, what's your explanation? I guess you're just a guest suburban guy with motorcycle. Okay. So anyhow, Mission Impossible 3. So first off, the movie is the first film directed.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Let me, sorry, let me go back. I think Mission Impossible 3 is the best mission impossible. Yeah. I think it's a controversial statement. I don't know how people feel. I think a lot of people really have loved the last two. I think if you could objectively look at them outside of the context of like when they came out and all that stuff, I think people might be able to agree with you. They're going to have to agree with me at the end of this podcast because they'll realize
Starting point is 00:10:00 that I have empirical data to support my assertion. I think Mission Impossible 3 is the best mission possible, but here's some things you should know about it. First off, it's directed by JJ Abrams. It's the first film directed by JJ Abrams. And in my opinion, it's the best film directed by JJ Abrams. If you cut out one scene of the Force Awakens, I think it would be better, but you can't.
Starting point is 00:10:25 What scene? That scene with the Space Monster, where they're all, it's like a tentacle, the tentacle monster. What a fucking drag on that entire film. What a way, I hate that scene. I would cut that out and it'd be a perfect film. This movie's so neat. It's funny, I didn't even think it was like a,
Starting point is 00:10:40 like the abs of a teenager. It is so lean. Like a 18 year old or old. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's a slim 19 year old. Yeah, yeah, yeah like a, like the abs of a teenager. It is so lean, like a 18 year old or old. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's a slim 19 year old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Just want to make sure that, you know, I don't want our sponsor, T.J. Fridays to get upset about any in the Friday. I know it's a family brand. I mean, sure. We've been talking about cocksucking, but that's that's brand say that's kosher. That's brand safe. It's kosher that's brand safe. kosher that's very good.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It's the he he co-wrote it. He all the other writers are Alex Kurtzman and Roberto. I think it's pronounced orsy. Mm-hmm. So these guys are really famous for a couple of things that that everybody here should know,
Starting point is 00:11:25 but most importantly, Star Trek. Well, they did the Star Trek reboot with Abrams. Another lean film. But I think, I want to say Roberto Orsi also did, no, these are all the same. Yeah, Transformers. One of them did. No, these are all the same. Yeah. Transformers. One of them did Sleepy Hala.
Starting point is 00:11:48 The original Transformers. Hold on a second. Whatever, it doesn't matter. And some real shit. I mean, everybody does their own garbage. Oh, they did the mummy. That was a bomb. The original Transformers is the closest
Starting point is 00:12:05 that those movies got to being movies. You know the mummy was an attempt to start a new, I mean, I'm sure everybody knows dark universe. The dark universe, which was gonna eat, you know, Tom Cruise, I guess it was gonna be the, he was gonna be the, he was gonna be the Iron Man of the dark universe. And you know what, I feel like that could have worked
Starting point is 00:12:22 if you didn't start it out by saying, like, we're gonna make a universe just make the movies Why make the mummy is the movie though? I don't know like the mummy first off the mum Frankinson first off you start with Dracula. Yes, the mummy right. That's right The mummy first. I've had a series of great films during Brendan Fraser. Oh The two happy him the original mummy the first mummy is actually really a good movie incredible movie I'm a great ride great. It's a great. It's I've been on great ride. It's a great, I haven't been on the ride. It's great.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I'm glad that we're staying on topic. I love that about us. Okay, so now here's the most important thing you need to know about Mission Impossible 3. It's a long episode of Ali. Okay, I've never seen an episode of Ali so I can't help you there. It is.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I do know there's like, I feel like this is a great show. But it is. Philipsy More Hoffman is the villain. Yeah. And he is fucking amazing. He's so good. He's fucking amazing in this movie. I miss him.
Starting point is 00:13:11 He plays a character named Owen Davian, who is like, who is like, you know, he's a perfect villain. Yeah. He's like a blonde hair white guy. Yeah. He's a little campy. Yeah, a little campy. Just enough. Just that Philipsy and my heart. But terrifying. Yeah, he's a little campy. Yeah, a little campy. So just enough, just that Philipsy might be fine.
Starting point is 00:13:26 But terrifying. Oh, he is terrifying. Oh, he is terrifying. Oh, he is terrifying. Oh, he is terrifying. His voice is terrifying. Yeah. He's like a little bit like his voice.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I mean, Philipsy were often always had a voice that was very distinct. Yeah, I feel like he's a little, he's like Jeremy Irons. But he's a little Buffalo Bill in this one. Yeah. He's got a little kind of like, I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't sort of referencing to him a buffalo bill from Silence of the Lambs, the great romantic comedy Silence of the Lambs. It puts the lotion in the box. You know, um, uh, but anyhow, TJ Friday, amazing TJ Fridays, he puts the lotion in the back. It rubs the lotion on its skin or it gets those. T. O.U.T. Jeff Fridays. Billy Crudup, who Crudup is like, you know, I don't know what to say about
Starting point is 00:14:13 Crudup. He's the perfectly cast in this film in my opinion. And I'm going to feel free to chime in because I know you also watch this movie. I'm sure this movie is hot. You like Crudup. So here's my, whenever I think of Billy Crudup, I think about the story about how he left his pregnant wife for Claire Danes. That's what I think of him. And who among us? Who among us has it?
Starting point is 00:14:33 Who among us has it? That's the first thing I think of when I think of Crudup. She was, maybe she had just the head of the baby. Yeah. All I know is that he was very, very into Claire Danes. And he was out of there real fast. Yeah, she might be an actress too, I don't remember. We've also got Jonathan Riesmeyer.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Jonathan Riesmeyer's pre tutors. Mm-hmm. So he's like a nobody. So hot. Yeah, he's very skinny in this. Like, way skinny. Way to remember him in here. Like a train spotting around.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Maggie Q at the peak of Maggie Q's fame. Oh, oh, I only want to talk about Maggie Q. This is not the Maggie Q cast. Maggie Q. So good in this movie. It is lainted on thick. In the Vatican scene. She's good. By the way, I feel it.
Starting point is 00:15:09 What's Maggie Cue been doing? She's so good in this movie. I know, she's so good. She's on the show. It's like blue heat or like the red line or blue blood. Designated survivor. Oh my God, no designated survivor. Yeah, I made up a designated survivor song It's just like designated survivor
Starting point is 00:15:32 No, like a 70s theme designated survivors like he's the only one left like yeah, basically I did the same thing for for under the dome You know I have an under I've under the snow. I thought it's like that. Do you want to hear the song? I can't believe I'm actually. Of course I thought I thought Zelda the song, what she really likes. It's like, I'm under the dome, you're under the dome, we're under the dome together. I'm under the dome. She's under the dome. We're under the dome forever. That's the song, which Laura loves.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I forget you were once a professional musician. That's right. I took all of my, and I have a great singing voice too. I wanted to do it like an 80 style. You could hear it, right? Oh, absolutely. Like the cartoony sort of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah. You're watching under the dome, that's just fucking insane. It's so bad. I've seen it, but I never like sat down and. I'm like, boy, you think about under the dome and also designated survivors that they're like, you just have to keep going like, well, he really is under that dome.
Starting point is 00:16:32 They really are under the dome or like the designated fire, I was always like, he really is the survivor. He's been designated as the survivor and he's really in it. I feel like he's gonna survive all of this. Well, he didn't survive being canceled, you know what I'm saying? Anyway, Mike, you ended up doing Nikita because of this. Mike, it's great.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Never saw me Nikita. Simon Pegg, Lawrence Fishburn in a scene chewing every scene he's in. So good. There might as well be no one else on screen. Every line he has is perfect. Yeah, every line. I mean, there's even this,
Starting point is 00:17:04 there's even he makes an invisible man reference. Oh, yeah. That's like, well, it's not Alison. In case you were wondering. Yeah, it's so good. It's like really, like the dialogue in this movie is Cracker Jack. It is, it is really fucking good. Do they say Ving Rames?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Do we say Ving Rames? Ving Rames. Michelle Monaghan, who's, by the way, I think a great actress, she's great in this show. She needs to work more. Carrie Russell. Oh, Carrie Russell. Carrie Russell kind of has a a great actress, she's great in this show. She needs to work more. Carrie Russell. Oh, Carrie Russell. Carrie Russell kind of has a drew Barry more in-screen situation in this movie.
Starting point is 00:17:29 So good though. You're like, Carrie Russell, I love her. Yeah. And then you know, JJ was just like, I'm gonna call up some old Philist, tea pals. Right, and Aaron Paul has a very small role. Yeah, that was called Jesse Pinkman from,
Starting point is 00:17:40 is that his name? Jesse Pinkman for Breaking Bad? I was like, oh, Jesse's in this. I forgot. And of course it's Star Turn for Greg Grundberg. Is that his name Jesse Pinkman for Breaking Bad? I was like, Joe Jesse's in this. I forgot. And of course it's Star Turn for Greg Grundberg. Greg Grundberg, is that his name? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Oh, he's in every JJ Abrams movie. Except Star Wars. No, he isn't Star Wars. He's a Star Travert. Yeah, he's a Star Travert. Okay. Anyhow. So mission Impossible 3 is above all else, a love story.
Starting point is 00:18:04 It's, yeah, I went inside it best. It's about Ethan taking, a love story. It's, yeah, I went inside it best. It's about Ethan taking care of the women in his life. Yes, because he has a nurturing aspect that we don't see in the other mission in policy or film. It's, yeah, it's dynamic. He's not just a hunter gather. He's also a nurturer.
Starting point is 00:18:18 That's what you need to know about Ethan Hunt. Ethan Hunt. He's a Renaissance man. He does it all. So, so the film, so first off, the film opens with a gambit. It opens in the middle of the movie. This to me is like, I think a great, I mean, I don't know if it was written this way
Starting point is 00:18:32 or if JJ was just like, we should do it this way. The film opens in the most electric way. You are thrust into a situation where like, what the fuck is going on? You meet the villain and scene modern. Which, again, I know you haven't seen it. It is textbook alias like getting your brain tickled and addicted to like what you're about to watch.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It is textbook alias when you watch it. I've never taken meth. I imagine it was like taking meth because like you would watch it while doing it. Your brain like lights up where you're like, taking fuck, I gotta know what's happening. This is so crazy. I'm like my adrenaline's pumping already.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And then they pull you back. Is it that good? And regular life. Yeah, alias was so addicted. The first two seasons of that show are wild. I don't know, man. I just feel like it's always like just broadcast like old broadcast TV is just so. I don't know if it holds up, but I will say at the time, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:19:16 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no suddenly you're in the suburbs, and that is the contrast, but also in aliens.
Starting point is 00:19:26 She'd suddenly be at college or whatever. Is the same like techniques, and it's so good. I'm really mad that you're like taking, I feel like you're taking, you're making Mission Impossible 3 less special. No, not at all. I'm saying, he perfected his skills in this like playground,
Starting point is 00:19:40 and then he put like what he learned to work in like a master version of it. I also think the aliases, the pilot of Alice is one of the best movies ever. Well, I guess I'll have to watch it now. You enter the film in a jarring moment. It's emotional. It's intense. You see, you get introduced to all sorts of things and you're not really sure what's happening,
Starting point is 00:20:01 but you are, it's intense. Now Tom Cruise goes through some of, I think does some, I actually think he does some of this fine as acting in this film. Yeah. But they do have to forget he's such a good actor and he's so hot. Yeah, he's very attractive. He's very attractive.
Starting point is 00:20:13 He's very attractive. He's very attractive. Really clouds how talented he truly is. You gotta get over that stuff because his power of Cruise shines through. So good. But they do this thing where, you know, whatever, if you're watching this, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:20:27 like there's gonna be spoilers because I'm gonna tell you my mission in possible three and it's from, you're five. It's 12 years old. It's fine. You know, I'm in bad a math. It's how many years is it? The kids in middle school.
Starting point is 00:20:37 It's 12 years. Yeah. At any rate, the kids in middle school. Like after 12 years, you could have raised in middle school. Oh, sure. At any rate, um, you know, the, he goes through this, he's bargaining with, uh, with folks who weren't often with Owen, Owen, Dave, and, and he's going through like these, all of these options of bargaining. And it's like tough guy bargaining and then like, sensitive bargaining and then like, okay, I'll get you what you want, bargaining and then like, you know, sad,
Starting point is 00:21:07 negative grief. Yeah, it's like, it's like all these, I mean, for all I know they actually use the stages of grief as the model. And you watch Tom Cruise use those different line reads. Yeah, yeah. So good. I mean, he goes through each thing and you buy it every time until you're like, he's chronic, he's in tears and you're like, fuck, Cruz is really turning it on. Yeah. Anyhow, so then it's just crack or jack opening, incredible beginning, and then smash cut to Tom Cruise in suburbia.
Starting point is 00:21:32 It's almost like irreversible. It's almost like, it's very much like, in a way, like maybe I think they came out the same year, but you know, it's like you see Tom Cruise the family man. It's a lot of heart, very naturalistic. Nothing feels forced. I mean, Tom Cruise you see his full range, but everybody's great in it.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And I just think like this film has something so special. It's so propulsive. I mean, it just does not, and I don't mean propulsive in the way that like everything is at some point. It's just means. It just goes, it just moves like, it just moves fluidly and effortlessly, right? So the setup is basically this.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Tom Cruise has settled down. He's no longer in the field six years later. He's training since his last mission. He's training new recruits to get out in the field and become impossible mission force members, which by the way, let's be forget. They do remind us in this film at the end that he works for the IMF, which is the impossible mission force. I laughed out of that.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I mean, yeah, go ahead. Well, you don't room. You don't know. They'd say they'd definitely say it somewhere, but like no talk about it. He really is a TV series. They're real stuck on using that nomenclature. I mean, so crud up calls him up. He's like, I got to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:22:42 He's at home having a party because he just got engaged to the beautiful Michelle Mon again. And, you know, he goes out, talks to Crud up and a Saturday. He's a little spice ghost. He's a little thing that he still is able to do. He reads lips. They shine like that.
Starting point is 00:22:55 They plant a lot of little like, like up's gun. Yeah, there's like clues. Yeah. So that later on, we realize that maybe his wife, because they get married before he goes and does one more mission, that his wife maybe wasn't as surprised as we all thought that she would be about his, you know, about his by-life, because he supposedly works the DOT.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah. Is that what is the dot, right? The Virginia Department of Transportation. Right. That's his cover. Anyhow, so what happens very quickly is we learn that one of his trainees has been taken hostage by Owen Davian, and he's got to go, they ask him, he's not in the field anymore, but they're like, you're the best we've got.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And it's a real offer. He didn't have to take it. He didn't have to take it. He could have gone home and sat down, and his life would have been probably fine. Yeah. Owen Davian is trying to procure or has this thing called the rabbit's foot, which is the, we never learn with the rabbit's foot. It's the McIuffin.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And I think at Wynton pointed this out and I 100% agree, the reason this film works is that we don't get caught up on what the rabbit's foot is or what it could do or where like, it's just, it is a dev plot device and it is purely a plot device. And Ethan Hunts disinterest in it. Yeah. It reinforces how interested he is in like helping the people instead of like what is this biological? Is it a weapon?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Is it a thing? Is it a, we don't even, he doesn't care. He cares about helping the people he wants to help and get now. Yeah. And that is such a strong, like that helps this film so much because the horrible part of alias or the horrible part of other spy things is when we get so caught in the mysterious mystery box thing where you're like,
Starting point is 00:24:29 what could the answer be and what is this thing and how it will affect the world? That stuff is not interesting, it's not character driven. But JJ knew, just give him a mcguffin, chase it down, and let's watch the fucking camp drag of going to the Vatican or whatever shit we're going to do. Just, that's so fine. They do look just like every mission in possible movie. They have to have these like massive set pieces. They blow up the Vatican in one of the other ones in like rogue nation. I don't know. I think they blow up the Vatican and rogue nation actually. But so, you know, so in essence, something goes horribly wrong on the rescue mission. And we try to rescue Kerry Russell who's and toward the force actress. Something goes horribly wrong on the rescue mission and
Starting point is 00:25:05 we try to rescue Carrie Russell who's a tour de force actress amazing in showing you what the Americans will be by the way it's fucking dark I have to say I said while we were watching I was like I can't believe it's a PG 13 movie it's really dark I mean it's heavy it's not kid stuff I would never take a 13 year old to see that film no they would not understand what is going on in the movie I mean yeah the one would you want those great action sequences, but long and short is like, uh, Kerry Russell doesn't make it. Sorry, spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Um, and we learn, we learn, uh, we learn about, uh, I think we get a sense of how, um, the, the lengths to which Owen Davian will go to get with, to get the things that he wants and to put raises the state and to protect himself. And, you know, you know, Cruz has to go rogue, got to go rogue and catch capture Davian with the help of Billy Crudup. He's doing what the government can't authorize him to do. He's doing what the government cannot authorize him to do. And, and, and, and, you know, there's this great sort of tension between Lawrence Fishburn and Cretup. They have a scene where they review the mission after they, you know, fail to bring back
Starting point is 00:26:10 Kerry Russell alive. And this is the scene where the Ellison, the Ellison Wells Ellison comment is. But, you know, Fishburn is this, you know, the perfect character to be chewing people out. And to play with our assumptions because he comes off so abrasive and you're like, well, fuck this guy. Yeah. No, no, no, he's the perfect like chief police chief is like, give me your, give me your badge and gun. And you're like, I can't trust this organization. Yeah. And crud up is the perfect person to get yelled at because he has a face that you just want to yell at. And anyhow, so, so, so he turns into a hunt for a hunt for Owen Davian and they, they launched this, you know, a labrits scheme where they,
Starting point is 00:26:45 like, so also there's a lot, okay, one of the things in this movie that is very important is that there's a lot of things that without those things that are probably, well, they definitely, at least one of them is completely fake, devices that are necessary to make this movie function, okay? Or complete technological wizardry nonsense. So one of the main pieces is a mask that can be created
Starting point is 00:27:06 from a set of photos of a person that is applied to your face and basically is indistinguishable from her. This is another alias holdover, which is like magical technology that like, there's doubles, everybody can look the same and like all you need is to just copy their voice and like that's, I mean, it's very cool the way they do it. It's like, this feels like a thing you could do maybe.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I think we were more believable of this stuff in 2000. I don't know, I don't know. It's in any rate. So they have to make essentially Tom Cruise. So this is the other thing. It's basically it's a face off. The movie face off has a subplot that it's face off where Philips Yomor Hoffman plays Tom Cruise playing Phil Pseumor Hoffman.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yeah. You know, and it's excellent. Seem because the whole time I think like Tom Cruise is great in this role. No, he wasn't there. Seemless. Seemless. And like when they put the mask on and take it off, it feels like there's very little like you can't really, it's like yeah, there's a little CGI, but it's a, it's not that detectable. Also, this film is filled with practical effects.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah. I mean, it's also pre-like the CGI wave, really, like the overwhelming wave, but it is filled with practical effects, which I think makes a lot of it much more visceral. I mean, I'm a, you know, big practical effects. Yeah, I thought that the whole time. So, so long as short as like, the important thing is that there's a flip in the film, right? The flip is that, is that, you know, everything's going well and that it isn't. And the point where it isn't going well, I think, is one of the greatest action sequences in action film history, which is they eventually captured Dave in.
Starting point is 00:28:40 They take him to Virginia. Yeah. And they are sold out by somebody. And there's like a bridge action. They're on a bridge. I don't know the name of the bridge. I'm sure it's in the plot description here, on it.
Starting point is 00:28:52 But you've got helicopters. The Chesapeake Bay Bridge. The Chesapeake Bay Bridge. They're on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge and they get attacked by a drone, a missile firing drone, and a helicopter that rises up from under the bridge. I mean, it's really epic. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:29:06 But the whole sequence is like Tom Cruise trying to get across the bridge to where the truck that Owen Davian is in, and these relentless marauders going after him. And there is just such velocity to that sequence. I mean, I get chills. I'm getting chills just thinking about it. There's just such velocity and propulsion in all of the, in the staging of it. It just feels like everything that could go wrong is going wrong and there's like an incredible intensity
Starting point is 00:29:34 to it. And like, you know, the heroes are losing, which is great. And then that kind of, that goes further, right? They kidnapped his wife. Now, Owen Davian has this like bone to pick with him because he basically tortured him while he had him. I think it's also commentary on,
Starting point is 00:29:49 I mean, it's definitely like, there's a lot of commentary, subtle commentary about the government and about America and about. And later when we get to the twist, that's very heavy on the like Ken America control the world. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Yes. Yes. I mean, there is a absolutely like a 9-11 undercurrent to all of it. North Korea gets a mention. I mean, Owen Davian is like provided. He's basically Paul Manafort or what? Yeah, he's like, well, he's like a free agent. International, like terror, terror, terror. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:22 But anyhow, so, so, so then it becomes a chase, it becomes a race against time, right? And, and, and it's Ethan Hunt going fully rogue with his crew, you know, and amazing, there's an amazing set piece and, where's it Shanghai, I think, you know, and, and, and, uh, it's very like, there's nothing, there's no,
Starting point is 00:30:42 it's not like an M night shomal in situation. There's no major, there's a twist, which is you think there's a guy who's selling out Ethan Hunt, but it's actually the other guy who's selling out Ethan Hunt. Yeah, the guy he chose to trust was the wrong one. But there's a wonderful sequence. They basically are like Lawrence Fishburn is, you know, they kind of have this reveal where it's like Lawrence Fishburn is the bad guy. He's been, he's been in communication with Owen Davian because he talks about how his
Starting point is 00:31:03 whole mission, Fishburn talks about how his whole mission there was to become was to get Owen Davian and But there's this great scene where they've captured Tom Cruise after this chase after his wife gets kidnapped They capture him he's Hannibal Lecter on a table. He's got the mouth guard over his mouth. Mm-hmm. He's pinned down Oh excellent and and's fish burn is like, he gives this, he has this like, it's not a monologue exactly, but he's talking to him about what happened.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And he's like, we're just gonna slow things down, which I think is an amazing line. It is like such a perfect line for the moment because you're like, holy shit, it's been break neck. And this guy needs to get to his wife, he only has so much time. And then like, he's like,
Starting point is 00:31:41 we're gonna slow things down. You're like, this is the worst possible thing you could hear at that moment. But he has this line where he leans over, uh, Ethan Hunt, Tom Cruise, the great cruise missile. And he's like, he was like, um, he's says something to the effect of you, you're looking at me with those, um, judgemental eyes, but make no mistake about it. I will bleed on the flag to make sure it stays red. Yeah. Which is just like such a great, weird line. It's so 9-11.
Starting point is 00:32:08 It's very 9-11. Very 9-11. And it's weird in this moment of being like America is the institution we must defend to like all like death. Like it's an interesting like from a military perspective to hear that line today. Yeah, I mean, you know, this was at a time when it was all about these external threats
Starting point is 00:32:29 that felt much more real. And it was like the heyday of, I feel like it was like peak terrorism. It was like, you know, pre-Obama, we were many years into the Iraq war. It was like America is the, like, the jewel of the world that needs to be protected to everyone's after her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And like, it was like a weird, and so the, in this movie, like, you get doubt, we were like, oh, maybe like the got someone in the government's corrupt, like, maybe this, like, like, zeal for nationalism isn't real. And like, what if everyone in the government just out for themselves? And then, like, it subverts that. And then says And like, what if everyone in the government just out for themselves, and then like it subverts that and then says like, no, actually, the higher up you go,
Starting point is 00:33:11 the more patriotic it gets. Yeah, exactly. It's a weird state. And then the big twist is like the kind of the twist like, well, okay, the rabbit's foot is some kind of weapon. We don't know what kind of weapon it is. It's a biohazard. But Billy Crud up who's the real villain,
Starting point is 00:33:23 and sort of the real mastermind is using a Davian to sell it to terrorist groups so that then they can launch preemptive strikes on presumably on on their countries on countries, right? And then rebuild the democracies in those countries, which he's like, I'm so good at, which is like, right. Well, I mean at that point, it was like, maybe, maybe America will be good at it, but like he didn't eat it. He's like, well, Bullroads and hospitals. It's like, we can't do that. Yeah. We're watching now. Well, we'll be good at it, but he did. He's like, well, Bill Rhodes in hospitals, it's like, we can't do that. Yeah, we can watch it now. Well, I mean, the rhetoric around Iraq was, I mean, I think this is the point
Starting point is 00:33:49 where that rhetoric had started to really become clear that they had fallen apart. But like, you know, the rhetoric was like, we're gonna bring democracy to the world. And it's like, possible mission accomplished. Yeah, exactly. And Crudups, his idea is like,
Starting point is 00:34:01 I'm tired of waiting around for America and democracy to reach wherever, right? I'm gonna make it happen. Sort of interesting motivation. I mean, it is. I believe it. It's believable in the context of this film. Absolutely, and in the context of the time.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Like I'm like, looking at it, and especially with hindsight, I'm like, this is actually really fun. But I just think that it's the movie so entertaining. It's so tight, it's electric, it's two hours. But it's two hours. It moves really quickly. You don't waste any time.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I mean, it is thrilling. Even the little scenes in the Vatican are whenever between like Maggie Q and Jonathan Riesmeyer's have like little banter. You're like, this is quick, fun. Two seconds, it's over. I feel like they late in Lee were developing a relationship between Jonathan Riesmeyer's and Maggie Q that like kind of like you kind of're like, this is quick, fun. Two seconds, it's over. I feel like they lately were developing a relationship between Jonathan Ries-Mier's and Maggie Q
Starting point is 00:34:46 that kind of, like you can't go. Maybe they'll be a spin off. Well, because he talks about how, you know, there's a big thing, Ving Rames, the whole time, is telling Ethan, he's like, you can't have a wife, you can't have a relationship, it'll always be screwed up. It's like, he's like, no, I'm different than you. It's like, yeah, maybe your wife's gonna get kidnapped
Starting point is 00:35:01 in literally five minutes. But then there's like kind of a weird thing I feel like going up between Maggie Q and Jonathan Riesmeyer's where he's talking about how he loves not having real relationships, but then there's a couple of glances that I feel like are meant to. She teaches him her prayer or whenever.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Yes, yes, that's right. She's like some prayer to bring her lost dog or cat back or something. Anyhow, so let's talk for a second. So the film is great if you haven't seen it. I think in some ways, what's your favorite part of the film? What's your favorite thing about this film?
Starting point is 00:35:29 Wow, there's so many. It's a great question. It's not my favorite movie, mind you. No, I know, but I mean, when you were watching it, you were like, I mean, I think is it the opening scene? I love the way it opens, I do. I mean, I love the way it opens, I do. I, I think I gotta say,
Starting point is 00:35:53 the bridge sequence is so, you're just like, it's like watching, it's like, it's going so badly. And there's just this wonderful exchange is, like, Ving Rames is like, runs over, like, somebody got shot, because like, there's regular this wonderful exchange, like, Ving Rames runs over, like, something got shot, because there's regular people on the bridge. And he's like trying to help people who got shot. And then, like, he like tells Ethan, there's like this gun. There's like an automatic rifle in the truck that they were in.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And he's like, or in the other truck in the convoy. And he's like trying to get to it. Just that whole sequence of the tension of this drone. It's loose, but it's also very choreographed, which is a fun, yeah, and then the final drone, the final drone hit or whatever, which like, or, which blows up a car and sends like Ethan, like against another car, like you seem flying into this other car. It's so visceral. It's just very visceral.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I think that scene is honestly one of the greatest action sequences in film history. I mean, I think it just expertly put together. I do love all the Lawrence Fishburnt scenes. I think that he's amazing, particularly when he's dressing them down in that first scene. I think that it's just like an incredible dynamic. And intensity. Yeah, it's just, it's just,
Starting point is 00:36:56 and it's all of the, you're like, yeah, this guy's an asshole, but also he's making a lot of good points. Yeah. And you kind of are like, I don't want to agree with him, but I do, but I also, like, you want the heroes of the film to do their thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:09 You know, I think that, I thought that was, I thought that was, I also thought it was impressive that like they, you know, they make something believable that is pretty unbelievable, which is this idea that this guy is a super agent, the greatest super agent the government's ever had, and also he's married to, I think his wife is a doctor. Well, it's the superhero Spider-Man Buffy thing,
Starting point is 00:37:34 which is I want it be craving to be normal when you're exceptional and your exceptionalness could save the whole world. You also have this crave for normalcy that I don't know if that's realistic, but it's also fascinating to watch. And it makes us relate to characters who have exceptional traits.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Right. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's like, but they pull it off in a way. Cause James Bond isn't relatable, but Ethan Hunt is. Yeah, I mean, look, the whole thing with Tom Cruise in this movie is he's like, he actually does a great job of pretending to be a normal person. Yeah, which I think is like probably true of Tom Cruise as well.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Well, that's okay. So my favorite thing in the movie is the Vatican sequence. I really love that it's so colorful. I love that it just was like, fuck it. Like we're going to have fun, including the like a face off stuff, which I don't know if that's believable, but it's such fun to watch. But my favorite thing is Philip Seymour Hoffman being Tom Cruise, being Philip Seymour Hoffman was fascinating because you watch Philip Seymour Hoffman have this intensity and charisma
Starting point is 00:38:34 that he turns on, that he isn't even using in his character, even though his character is charismatic. It's like he turns on this, like, looking directly in your eyes, talking with pure confidence and every word is being landed with each syllable that like Tom Cruise does. But that imitation is not only an imitation of Tom Cruise, it's an imitation of how he portrays his character, which is just like, I'm just a guy
Starting point is 00:38:55 who wants to be with his wife. And like you buy it because it's so charismatic, even if in real life, if you met that person, you'd be like, that's an extraordinary man. Yeah, it's like this weird, meta thing, and it's such a crazy dance, and it's under such weird circumstances, and yet I truly believed Tom Cruise was wearing
Starting point is 00:39:12 a Philipsy were half the man. Yeah, no, I mean, that part is interesting because I mean, it's, I mean, that, the whole, I mean, I just couldn't stop thinking about face off, which, you know, if you, it's funny too, because John Wood directed the second one, but you know, face off, if people don't know,
Starting point is 00:39:24 and maybe you don't, is a film starring Nicholas Cage and John Travolta, where they, in a, it seems like in normal times, like in the day and age that we live in, but somehow they have a technology, which allows you to remove someone's face and put it on your face. Like basically do a face swap,
Starting point is 00:39:41 like a face transplant, but like seamless. Yeah. So Nicholas Cage plays John Travolta and John Travolta plays Nicholas Cage. Which is the fun of the movie. I mean, it's actually insane. Sorry, this is very ad deviation from the conversation about Mission Bosable 3,
Starting point is 00:39:55 but just really quickly. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the idea of face off is John Travolta is like an FBI agent and Nicholas Cage is a diabolical terrorist who has a brother, and they capture Nicholas Cage and he's in a coma or something,
Starting point is 00:40:09 and they're like, we need to get information from his brother, but the only person he'll talk to is Nicholas Cage, and so they're like, John Travolta, would you be interested in having your face transplanted with his face? They're like, you know him better than anyone, because you've been hunting him for a decade. And then pretend to be his brother.
Starting point is 00:40:24 That's the plot of the movie. Kind of it. Not shated, not shelt. And then, um, yeah, I mean, and then that happens for like two hours, basically. Oh, oh, wait, I'm sorry. A nickel-skated wakes up from his coma and like forces the doctors to perform the surgery on him.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Which is like, how would that work? I don't know. Once, can they just knock him out? At some point, they have to knock him out. This is spending so much disbelief. I don't think they put your Volta's face on his to start with, right? I think it's like, it's like just a,
Starting point is 00:40:53 he's got like just the musculature wherever you can see. Fucking amazing man, the 90s were a wild time. Actually, I don't know what you're that was made. I think it was in the late 90s, 96. Some people should tell me, I don't know. Do they not blow up the Vatican in one of the other mission possible, and then it is the Kremlin?
Starting point is 00:41:10 Yeah, yes, do they blow up the Kremlin? I know, all right, anyhow. Let's talk for a second about what mission possible three might have been. Yeah, okay. I'm about to blow your fucking mind. In 2002, director David Fincher was slated to direct the next installment of Mission Impossible.
Starting point is 00:41:26 I would have loved to see that. I don't know if this is referencing the previous director Joe Karnahan, but it says under his involvement, I think it's referencing Fincher, referencing Fincher. The film was the feature Kenneth Brana, playing a guy who's based on Timothy McVeigh. And Carrie Ann Moss and Scarlett Johansson were going to be in it. And apparently, Tandy Newton was offered to reprise her role. Love Tandy, pass on Scarlett. Love Carrie and Moss. I mean, let me never remember. This is Canada Frontend, double down on it.
Starting point is 00:41:53 This is pre-Scarlett's controversial. Yeah, I just never really liked Karen Choices. Scarlett Johansson, her new thing is that she's going to play every... She's going to try to play... Everybody's going to play white. Yeah, she's like everybody's going to play white woman. Every, but white. Yeah, she like everybody but a white woman. Every, every class and gender besides white woman. She's like, in the next film,
Starting point is 00:42:09 she's gonna be a trans man, like a tall Jewish guy who runs a blog. Um, okay. Um, so a magical, incredible frame. Imagine what David Fincher would have done with this. It probably would have been good, but not as good as this, in my opinion. I think that this is the direction
Starting point is 00:42:28 that Mission Impossible should have gone in. At the time, and now, which is like funner, looser, adventurer, David Fincher, I love, and I would love to see him do a movie like this, but I don't know that he does not like a fun, like, I love David Fincher. It's, there's less of like an imaginative whimsy, and I think that that's the fun of the Mission Impossible movies, I love David Fincher. It's, there's less of like an imaginative whimsy.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And I think that that's the fun of the Mission Impossible movies. Is that more of like an anything can happen sort of feeling. Do you know about this trapped in the closet? Controvers here on Mission Impossible Tree? I did not know about this. I've never, I did not know anything about this. This is fucking wild.
Starting point is 00:43:02 A blog entry of Hollywoodinterrupted.com, which does that even exist anymore, in March to the 6th alleged that Viacom, the parent of Paramount and Comedy Center was a Paramount movie, canceled the rebroadcast, rebroadcast of the South Park episode trapped in the closet due to threats by Tom Cruise to refuse to participate in the Mission Impossible with Repubblicity Circle. So people started boycotting the movie because they wanted, they found out that this was happening to be like the freedom of speech
Starting point is 00:43:31 you should be able to say whatever you want about Tom Cruise. There was like controversy on both sides about this. Yeah, I didn't, I'm not a big South Park fan. I guess they did an episode where they were like Tom Cruise's gay. Yeah, South Park's pretty cool. Pretty cool if you're like a reactionary libertarian who thinks they're caring about things sucks. But they should also be allowed to say whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I mean, it's just like, I feel like it was a, it's interesting because, you know, you know, I don't know what the crossover is between people who really love the Mission Impossible series and Tom Cruise and people who really love South Park. Yeah, I think it's enough of an audience that I don't think that that would have impacted anything.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I think Tom Cruise is personally mad about that episode. Yeah, I'm trying to imagine how this played out. Also at the time these kind of controversies were like a much bigger deal. Like entertainment Hollywood gossip, like Scientology is Tom Cruise gay stuff was way cooler than now because now we know better than to go on calling people gay And also like the world is ending so it doesn't really matter. I mean, it's interesting I mean at South Park was I mean whatever. I mean obviously is all you know comedy. It's you've got a Different rules for comedy what I know whatever, but you know, it's like it's you've got a different rules for comedy, I don't know whatever, but you know,
Starting point is 00:44:44 it's like, fucking cares. Yeah. I mean, honestly, if Tom Cruise is gay, he doesn't want to tell people about it and who gives a shit. And I don't. Also, like, your gay, if you say your gay. I mean, Nick DeTan always made this argument.
Starting point is 00:44:58 It was this whole argument about Peter Teal, which is like, it's good for other people who are thinking about coming out of the closet to see, you know, people who are in the public. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just didn't think that too much. I just one was talking about AIDS at the time. So like, that's all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:26 But like, maybe even with gay rights, it's like, you know, in the 90s, it was kind of good that like, I'm not saying good. I'm saying there was positive effects to a negative thing, which was like, some people got out of it and let's discussion start going. And there was visibility. And I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying like, I understand that in the context of the time,
Starting point is 00:45:42 it was a gray area. And it's sort of like using violence. It's a violent act, and you're using violence to like, for better ends, is that, you know, doesn't end just by the means? I don't think so, but at the time I could see how the desperation would drive you to think that. Yeah, I think it's, you know, I think it's,
Starting point is 00:46:01 yeah, I mean, I understand the argument, especially at another time, you know, I think we've evolved past it. And I think a lot of stuff that South Park has done or said we've evolved past it. Well, I mean, South Park, I'm not even talking about South Park, I'm just thinking generally of that idea of like, of like wanting people to be outed, you know, it's shitty. It's just, I just think like, I mean, I just think like the, the, I get, and there's an argument.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And it also says to gay people, like privacy is is is meaningless like you can be targeted anytime even by your own people But how much more right but how much more impactful is like Ellen coming out then like somebody being forced out I feel like that also sends like a weird. It's like. Oh, yeah, you'll be forced out. So do it It's like maybe you'll have to do it Whatever I know Just in around this film which is do it whatever. I think more interesting controversy just hit around this film, which is the main thing. The more interesting controversy was paramount putting
Starting point is 00:46:49 tape recorders that played the theme song in newspaper stands around the country. So when you open the newspaper stand, it would play the mission of possible theme song, except that some of them started breaking and like random pieces of equipment would fall out and people thought that they were bombs. So there was bombscares across the nation.
Starting point is 00:47:05 They were wide in the 11 world. They were widely mistaken for bombs, apparently. She was really, really good. Great marketing. And they kept going with it. Police bomb squads detonated a number of the vending box that even temporarily shut it, shut down the veterans hospital and response to the apparent threat. I mean, this actually kind of, I, this sort of makes sense.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Now, I'm in context of everything I sort of understand why maybe this film wasn't as well received as either the previous ones, or I don't know if the second one was a bomb, or not a camera. Third movies are hard. Third movies are hard. Yeah, but at any rate, it's a great film.
Starting point is 00:47:43 It's in my opinion, the best medicine, mission impossible. And it's not great film. It's in my opinion, the best medicine in possible. And it's not the highest grossy mission possible, but it is, I think says everything about the series that you need to hear in one go. Now they did not bring Laurence Fishburn back for the next film, which I'm disappointed. They brought Alex Baldwin, became the director of the CIA Maybe they they fold I don't know what happens. They didn't bring Maggie Q back
Starting point is 00:48:12 They should bring make they didn't bring Jonathan Rye's Myers Take her leave Jonathan Rye's Myers, but He was like I just assaulted how do you think he got so thin? He's like I just assaulted several family members. I will not be able to make it back. Maggie Cushion have had her own films. Leah Sado is in the most recent one. Love her. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Didn't bring Carrie Russell back. One of my favorite, one of my favorite French film stars. At any rate, that's Mission Impossible 3? Yeah, that's Mission Impossible 3. And I thought that on the eve of the, you know, the new one is coming out soon. That it was worth revisiting that's Mission Impossible 3. And I thought that on the eve of the, you know, the new one is coming out soon. Mm-hmm. That was worth revisiting the best Mission Impossible film. If we couldn't do news, what's the next best thing? Yeah, Mission Impossible for an hour. All right, so we got to wrap up. There's nothing else to say. If you want to send comments,
Starting point is 00:48:56 questions, concerns about my Mission Impossible choice, I also think Terminator 3 is the best Terminator film. So yeah, don't give me, when's give me a look? Guess what, that movie fucking rips, okay? It's a good movie. It's been overlooked by the critics for too long and it's time to revisit Terminator 3. I fall in camp T2, but I respect your choices. Yeah, T2 is fine.
Starting point is 00:49:19 But T3 is the best. I also fall in camp Alien over Aliens. Oh, that's the show. Do us a favor and take the tomorrow survey so we can understand what you like and don't like about this show. Take two seconds. Like how many episodes of this show
Starting point is 00:49:34 would you like to hear about Mission Impossible 3? Should we do all of the Mission Impossible's? Should we do all? In no particular order. Should we find any film series with six or more films and do all of those as should that be the new thrust of tomorrow. All film long film series. I'm not saying we're going to do that. I'm saying you should say it. You should go or you know, are you like, hey, you didn't type of politics this week because you're saying a mission in Possible 3,
Starting point is 00:49:58 but I don't like that or like, why didn't you? Isn't there a phone that you should be discussing or some gadget? I ordered a complaint box and I just ordered some wireless earbuds suggested by the wire cutter. Jabra. I was thinking the whole time like Jabra must be so stoked because they were like, oh God, we're going out of business because we made those horrible, douchey, bluetooth things.
Starting point is 00:50:20 And then somebody was like, but what if you had two of them? And they're like, we're back! We're back, baby! It's 2004 all over again. Job everywhere, fucking job on couldn't hang in there, man. No. So if you want to take the survey, what you really should. Tell us about your headphones.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Tell us about what's going on with your ears. In your ears, go to theoutline.com slash tomorrow's survey. Is that the right URL? It's the outline.com slash tomorrow's survey. It's spelled right URL? It's the outline.com slash tomorrow's survey. It's spelled exactly the way you spell those words. Yeah, it's right. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best, though I've just learned that
Starting point is 00:51:23 Owen Davien has targeted your family and currently has holding them in an anonymous building in Shanghai and he wants what he wants right now.

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