Tomorrow - 128: James T. Green Knows the Song of the Summer

Episode Date: August 17, 2018

Summer 2018 is coming to a close fast and it's time to decide the official Song of the Summer. That's why Josh and Ryan decided to bring out the big guns in the form of James T. Green, audio director at The Outline. (James also has some thoughts on anthropomorphic cars... it's a thing.) Also of note: This episode opens with Josh and Ryan having a Hatfield and McCoys style feud over a 45 minute wait – which Nicki Minaj herself eventually steps to settle. After, there's some chat about Android and Aretha Franklin. It's been a weird week! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to tomorrow I'm your host Josh Wittepolsky. Today on the podcast, we discuss Columbia House Fireworks and pickle juice. I don't want to waste one minute. Let's get right to it. All right, another week, Ryan. Hi. I got to talk about this. I'm sorry.

You don't have to talk about that. Is they do? Ryan's mad at me because. I'm not mad at you. No. And you I gotta talk about this. I'm sorry. You don't have to talk about this. I do. Ryan's mad at me because I'm not mad at you. No, no, you have very right to be. I'm condescendingly frustrated. We were supposed to start it three. And no, we were supposed to start it two and it's and admittedly, admittedly, I was seven minutes late. I didn't notice that because I was busy working at Hallade. I was going to be I was it's 252 now. So I'm fine. I have got what's 52 minus seven? 52 minus seven is 45.

So I'm only 45 minutes late to that. Sure. That's nothing. But but you're upset because I didn't give you a heads up of how long the delay would be. Well, I was just sitting here with news stories open wedding reading because we're getting involved in any other work. And I thought it's gonna be five minutes, and then it was like 10 minutes,

and then it was like, okay, I need two more minutes, and then two more minutes turned into another, it's like 40 minutes. Oh, whatever. Listen, we're talking about music this week. Okay, I actually get it all out there. I want the fans to know, yes, the work human beings, and these human beings are in a huge fight.

This friendship is unbreakable, but I have asterisk. I agree with all of that. I'll say this. We're talking about music this week, and although Nicki Minaj changed in the topic now, no, I'm on the topic. Although Nicki Minaj is not my favorite human being from like a personal life choice standpoint, I've been trying to improve my state of life and the way of living through her philosophy of,

I don't know if you've ever seen the pickle juice video. And no, I haven't. She at an MTV documentary had a meltdown and gave a speech that is so inspiring where she got up and left a photo shoot and everyone got mad at her and said, she is difficult to work with. And she said, nobody says that

if a man feels disrespected, like a straight rapper said, like, I'm not these conditions of this photoshoot or garbage. Like you put out shitty food or you relate and all this stuff. And I'm trying to live in the pickle juice of it all to say, like, if I had accepted pickle juice, I would continue drinking pickle juice right now, but I did not. All right.

And so I am doing a clean sweep in my life of telling people when they ship out this man because I normally take on everybody else's bullshit with a smile and I'm not doing that anymore. Are you a Gemini? No. Okay. Also that's not real.

That's the only thing that is real riot. It is astrology. Hold on a second. I don't understand the pickle juice reference, but I think it must have something to do with this Nicki Minaj rant that you're talking about. Yeah, she gives this piece of a second. I don't understand the pickle juice reference, but I think it must have something to do with this Nicki Minaj rant that you're talking about. Yeah, she gives this speech. So I use it about rant, it's a speech.

She gives this speech about a record. Is it a rant or a speech? It is. Okay, a rant and speech. Okay, what's gonna happen is, I'm not- Didn't you play the video? No, we don't have to hear it now

because we have good enough time. But what's gonna happen is that you're gonna put, we're gonna have it on, I want people to hear it on the podcast. I'll put it in. So people can hear a little bit of it. And then I, and then if I don't hear it today, I'll at least be able to hear it when I listen to the podcast.

Yeah. You have to be like a beast. You have to be a beast. That's the only way they respect you. I came up under Wayne. And Wayne has his way of doing things. When Wayne walks on a f**k set and say, don't talk to me. Have my f**k music ready.

Get the f**k up out of my face and I'm a bloated s**t to your f**k face all day. It's cool. But every time I put my foot down and stand up for myself, it's like we've heard about Nicki Minaj. Nicki Minaj shut down a photo shoot and we up for myself, it's like we've heard about Nicki Minaj. Nicki Minaj shut down a photo shoot and we got her. Everyone's doing what's to work with Nicki Minaj.

I'm glad you heard. Now, when I come to a photo shoot, let it be of quality. You know why? Because I put quality in what I do. I spend time and I spend energy and I spend effort and I spend everything I have, every fiber of my being to give people quality. So if I turn up to a photo shoot

and you got a $50 close budget and some slice pickles on your ass, you wanna know what? No, I am gonna leave. Is that wrong? For wanting more for myself, wanting people to treat me with respect, but you know what?

Next time they know better, but had I accepted the pickle juice, I would be drinking pickle juice right now. When I am assertive, I'm a bitch. When a man is assertive, he's a boss. Boss stuff. He bossed up. Yeah, he bossed up.

No negative connotation behind bossed up. But lots of negative connotation behind being a bitch. Donald Trump can say, you're fired. Let Martha Stewart run out company the same way and be the same way. Oh, evil. But Donald Trump, he gets to hang out with young, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil.

But Donald Trump, he gets to hang out with young, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil. But Donald Trump, he gets to hang out with young, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil. But Donald Trump, he gets to hang out with young, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil, evil. But Donald Trump, he gets to hang out with young, evil, evil, evil, be super sweet and you have to be sexy and you have to be, and you have to be nice. And you have to, it's like, I can't be one of those things at once.

Okay, great. So I think we've worked it. We've buried the hatchet. It's gone. I'm sorry. You're fine. I know, but it's in honest. I mean, it's okay. It's as a sincere apology. I did not realize the toll that my lateness was taking on you. And I feel bad about it.

No, it's fine. Thank you for absolving me of it. But the third part of it was for once in my life. The last week has been for once in my life telling people one thing's bothering me. John's gotten a real earful. Listen Laura, Dishes. Laura and I have a human consideration. Well, this is when it comes to Dishes.

Dishes are the fucking worst. I, Laura and I have a lot of conversations about this have had many over our, over our years together because she is a, you know, she will just deal with people shit and just not say anything, my shit, especially, you know, I'm a very hard person to deal with as you're well aware of. And, and she's very resilient and just gets on with what she has to do. And she'll be upset about something but internalize it or swallow it. And I can feel, because I'm so in tune with her on a spiritual and emotional level,

I can feel when that is happening. And I'm like, why don't you just yell at me? Like just tell me what I do wrong or what I'm doing that's annoying. And I think it's much healthier. Excuse me, I'm drinking a duck. I'm willing to spend up a little bit of a healthier to say what's on your mind.

I'm willing to put up with anybody, like if they need assistance or minute or anything, I'm always willing to do that stuff, but I've slowly learned that it needs to be 50-50 and it needs to be, if I'm gonna accommodate you, you have to accommodate me accommodating you. You talking about the dishes again? Well, no, it just comes down to everything.

I just like this weekend, we did the little preview of my show. And at some point, I had a conversation with someone where I was like disrespecting myself and the show to accommodate someone else's feelings. And my producer was like, it doesn't mean anything that this show doesn't have like a hundred thousand views

that you can pull that up as evidence for why you just self-respect and you deserve respect from other people. You have to operate from a place of respecting your work and the audience and all of that other stuff. And if you don't do that, you'll never like have that. Exactly like the net, which I still haven't seen. I'm sorry, watch the trailer again and I just probably down. I couldn't, I was like, I can't handle this right now. I got a, I was Lauren, I got in a huge argument the other day. Sorry, not to talk about Lauren so much, but about how she was like,

oh, the staircase, we should watch that. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, listen, my every day of my life is filled with the tough decisions about like things that are horrible in the world, like all day at what I'm at work. No, it's like all the stuff's going, I'm so cathartic. She loves, she's very interested in murders

and is working on stuff that's around, you know, crime and whatever, she's working on some new things. And I am like, when I get home, I'm like anything that even looks remotely like news. Like I can't out of my fucking face. You don't want any real answer. Yes, we got to do a big argument of how I'm like, I really don't want to like watch it.

It wasn't like you shouldn't really watch staircase, but I was just like, I want to play dead cells, which by the way, have you seen this game? No. Dead cells is first off, it is the first switch game that I am fucking obsessed with. I knew I'd get you. It is, oh, I'm like so in love with the Switch right now.

I know. I mean, maybe it's available for other platforms. It might be like a steam game or something. But I haven't it right here. But I found it. No, and being able to play it on my TV and then play it in bed. And, yeah. Okay, let's just say, okay, and then we can talk about new stuff.

But Dead Cells is the fucking shit. Yeah. If you like Castlevania, it's like, Dead Cells is like Castlevania on steroids, and it fucking rules, and I have been playing it so much. Like any free time that I've had, I've done two things this week in terms of free time.

Dead Cells and I watch Deadpool 2, which I have to say was very funny. You know, I don't wanna give it credit, but there's something really interesting about the Deadpool concept. Yeah. Like the nature of the Deadpool films that there is meta as they are and self-aware.

Like, I know it's like that's their stick, but there has never been a superhero movie like that. I know. It's very interesting. I'm so jealous of anybody with the budget to like bring a really fun, cool, like format-breaking idea to fruition. I'm so, I'm now salivates of the chance to do anything like that.

It's like, ever in my life. It's like when they did Sid and Sid, it was like, what the fuck is this? There's never been a movie like this ever. It just looks so insane. Or Scott Pilgrimbrus is the world. Yeah, I'm, yeah, yes. I guess at the time now that seems like there's a,

that's been become like a type of movie. It was, there was nothing like that at the time. Yeah. Any heart. Let's talk about some news. What's that? Sure. Um, well, again, we're going to talk about music later. And it's a weird day for that. Aretha Franklin passed away. Madonna 60th birthday and the anniversary of Elvis Presley. Do you think Madonna is mad in some way?

I bet she is because like her birthday, her sixth birthday celebration has been, all the attention has been diverted to a more important story. Anything musician, he is hard as a rock that they're being brought up in the same sentence. That's true. That's true. She's like Madonna, Orita, the all the legends, all the divas are here. Yeah. Nobody's talking about Whitney, aren't they? Where's Miss Janet? Well, I'm trying to sell tour tickets, canceling shows. Wow. I love Janet. Is that true? Is that true?

I don't know. She put out a song today, or a song leaked today. I don't know. I just saw, I get, I get a fucking Googler. It's like Quincy Jones just released an album. I'm like, what? Yeah, it's called like From the Future. Tell me, let me know when you release more secrets.

I love more secrets of other people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, all I want to hear from Quincy Jones is a fucking interview about other people. Is the hot guy? I want to hear from Quincy Jones is a fucking interview about how they're people. I want to hear like a 20 minute set of caveats. He's like, I had sex with JFK.

I'm like, what? He's like, play a bench and he leaves. He's like, that's time for music. The audience gets up. No, because Joe's amazing musician, but the gossip's really his, no, but a Rietha Franklin. For his guy.

How did the fuck did we get to this? No, Rietha Franklin died. That's right. She was 70. Clean of soul. Three, which is, she this? No, Rita Franklin died. She was 70. Clean of soul. Three, which is, she was, yeah, 76, 76. Honestly, I thought she was older, like that's fairly young. She's been to die.

And it's, you know, it's a real fun thing. Well, that's the thing about pro, about prodigies, but you got them real early and real long. You know, but, I'm not trying to do silver lining here anything, but I will say what a insane, like that is a body of work that will never go away. It's a body of work that created other massive insane legendary bodies of work.

That's like why, oh. Like, it's just like, it is a permanent part of like a major permanent part of the history of all music in the history of humanity. I think it's pretty, I mean, she's left to mark on like everything from entertainment to like civil rights. And I tweeted that like she performed at Martin Luther King, Jr.'s funeral

and at the Obama inauguration. And to think about like a life that spanned that kind of like change in the things that she like saw especially in Detroit like An incredible life story rest in peace great gowns. She's like beautiful gowns. Yeah, she was a queen of shapes She's probably like this Trump shit. I'm just fucking out of here. She's like I'm done. Yeah She was like I did my part y'all can work this out. She literally called God and was like, take me. That he tweeted about her. I, who?

Trump like tweeted about how like, she was amazing. What a one of a ways. Like, shut the fuck up. It's like literally your phony ass praise is like, she would have like spit on him. She wouldn't have even, she would have not,

spit on her worth her fucking soul. He would have known that she would have spit on him and that is what she does. Yeah. Even in death. No, it is fucking annoying. It's like, you know, Donald Trump, please shut the fuck up. Yeah, shut up. No one wants to hear you talk about her.

You hear fake praise. I just want to die and go away. Well, I know which death and Donald Trump, because that's illegal and you're going to go to jail now. But I didn't say I wish he, someone would kill him. Definitely don't take that instruction. Anyone wants to. I'm saying I wish natural causes like light.

Sorry, you're breaking up. I think, you know what, I think I'll call you back later. Allegedly. Okay, so in other news. Real right turn. Catholic priest abused over 1, children and it's barely made the news. Where is this where is this this actually really Pennsylvania? No, no, where's

specifically I think it's actually really close to where Laura grew up. So so thanks a lot Pennsylvania. Another great contribution. First you go red for the presidential election and now you've got rapist priests. One of the priests from the a church in my town was one of the ones that during the initial like round up in the early 2000s. Yeah, and my that was the point at which my dad was like, I don't know that praying will prevent another 911. Maybe we should just not go. I want to say, you know, I don't want to attack all religion, but you know, religion is bullshit. But also, you know, I would have, I don't care if you want to be religious. I think you're making a big mistake, but it's your life.

Why isn't the mirror times telling me where this happens? But religion is bad. Religion is so bad and so much the cause for so many things that are bad in the world. And the idea that it's like, I cannot fucking believe in 2018. We have not launched a full scale global fucking every serious investigative.

Yeah, this is Philadelphia. Oh, not feel it. No, no, it wasn't it in, was it in the, oh, maybe it isn't, Philly. Anyway, well, how we, how we not launch the full scale, I want fucking the British intelligence agencies, the US intelligence agencies,

every fucking intelligence agency, everywhere in the world, full scale investigation of the Catholic church and the leadership, yeah, no, but all of them, I get it, I agree, but the Catholic church is really prominent in this area. And I'm not here to put aside a survivor. But one of the survivors was like,

this priest stole the church from me and the experience of being part of that, my family was a part of it. And it's like, I don't want to blow your mind, but like the church was completely complicit. And that's like the church was like, oh, shouldn't have done that. We'll move you to another diocese.

No, this is, but this is what I'm talking about, buddy. Like what the fucking, like, you know, people are like, the Pope so great. It's like, is he fucking this is what I'm talking about, buddy. Like what the fucking, like, you know, people will go, hope so great. It's like, is he fucking great? Is he? Cause his, his he fucking rooted this out. He's like, don't kill gay people. I'm like, what a master of morality.

Yeah, he's like, well, you know, well, these priests, we should spare them. Um, you know, it's like, have you not done a fucking investigation? He needs the fucking night's template to get on this shit. It's insane to me. Like, I'm sorry, Catholic church is diseased. It is a fucking disease. There's something wrong with it.

There's something wrong with it. There's something really wrong with it and the victims of its fucking disease are little children and it's like the most insane thing in the world. Or the thing that's wrong with it is, I think both money and like a complete review. When you say you speak for God

and then you're given like a budget of like a billion dollars. Imagine if Elon Musk was also convinced he spoke for God. Like, what is telling you that he does these events of that? Of curiosity, but no, like, look, just, like, I don't even, it's like, I can't, I can't even, as they say, with this fucking Catholic church shit. And by the way, it happens in, you're right. There are a lot of organized religious groups that this kind of abuse, childhood abuse, is rampant.

There's like five in New York. You know, but it's like, you know what? Wake the fuck up. And using women and abusing children is like the first two orders of business. And by the way, like all of the, I mean, so many of the foundational like Catholic rules are like designed to create

like people in with fucked up states of mind. I mean, here's the thing. I was, I did Catholicism for like three years in the mid 2000s in a serious way. You did it. I was there. And they like tell you that like everything bad you do, it's no big deal, but you have to tell the church and then say prayers and then it will go away, but also everything you do is bad. So you just go in there and you're like, you list off everything you thought that was like,

and then you have to tell this old man who now has this information. And then you feel guilt all the time. It's like Jewish guilt is guilt to your parents. Like Catholic guilt is guilt to like, like God himself is mad at you because you looked at a bot. Let's be honest,

priests are the ultimate cops. I think we should all agree on that. Priests are cops. That's my new shirt. Okay, let's move on to a happier stuff. Nons are good though. I was saying, Nons are good.

Are they? I mean, other than the ones that teach schools, the ones that like, Nons do a lot of cool feminists. I mean, there's good. Are they? I mean, other than the ones that teach schools, the ones that like, none's do a lot of cool feminists. I mean, there's a lot. And they fight Katy Perry. I can't support anyone feuding with Katy Perry. Uh, excuse me.

Please don't talk about my queen like that. Just kidding. Okay, let's keep going. Um, um, Um, Um, Um, Um,

Um, Um, Um, Um, Um, Um, Um, Um, um, Um, um, Um, um, Um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um We have to ask to her about them and we're all confused as to whether or not we like her. Look, all I know is this. She was great on Saturday, Big Brother. This world is bullshit. That I have to be endure the villain from season one of the apprentice, like leaking tapes from the situation room at the White House

is beyond the fucking pale. She worked in the White House before though, that's what's wild. Did she? Yeah, she worked for the Clinton White House. She worked in the White House before though. That's what's wild did you yeah? She worked for the Clinton White House she worked at the like for the Gore all right sure whatever, but I'm gonna say all I'm saying is this I'm just saying I don't know her as a White House employee. I know her from season one of the apprentice Yeah, okay, no, but I mean it's just a wild that the bad guy from season one

I think she's a real early on that like what was gonna work for her in life and she knew where it would work and it was politics and like reality TV. Also, it's like wild that the, I'm not saying fight fire with fire because I don't think with like the Avonadi for president, things shouldn't work. But the only people who seem to really like, really fucking get at him are other reality TV side-gives.

I'm just gonna go for Avonadi. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. He's so wild. Look, I like you as a talking head and a lawyer. Good for you. You saw that high- I love Avonadi hashtag and he was like, I like you as a talking head and a lawyer. Good for you. You saw that high up. I love an Adi hashtag and he was like, I love you. I love you. I love you as Stormy Daniels attorney.

I, I, pretty much all I love you as to be clear. Like he was trying to get your talk show with him and Skyrim Mooch or whatever. You got dirt on Trump. Let me hear it. I'd love to hear you talk about it on CNBC and MMSHBC and NN Fox News. Yeah.

Basta with the fucking Trump dirt. But other than that, no one wants you to be the politician or a president. You know what you are? You're an amazing on camera. New York slime ball attorney. Really good at that. I mean, he's not a slime ball, but he's kind of like, yeah, look, look, you know, Avanati, he actually is not a slime ball.

But you can imagine him. New York has not a slime. But it would come on. Everyone from New York has a little slime. You could imagine him flipping. You could imagine as Trump's attorney pretty easy. Yeah, I was with you. He probably, he'd be great like talking head on the view. Yeah, Trump's probably like, how do I get this guy to represent me? Yeah.

Yeah, you know, it's a lot of out of here. It Giuliani. He's hilarious. He's a little like fucking melting in real time. Like I'm watching his- Steven Colbert and Seth Meyers pull so many bits of him just doing weird stuff and it gives me joy.

Every morning I watch the clips. Giuliani, I can't believe the world we live in. This is that fucking, his corpse should be back in the fucking coffin and whatever vampire KV came from. And I have to see this motherfucker on TV every day. He literally walked out of 9-11, like sterling, like America's mayor, like he had it all.

And then he squandered it to like protect John Trump. He's a scumbag. He's a monster. Even on children. And he was a fucking shiver. He was a terrible man. Fuck Julian. He was a bust homeless people out of the city.

He fucking like, he made dancing illegal like or fuck Giuliani. I mean, fuck him really. Okay, what else do we have in the other news? It's good. I'll be news. You know what you're talking about that video game again. I mean, we can talk about something like the Andrew Pai Beta was released. Actually, I bet that actually it's the full releases out. Oh, and I'm gonna tell you something. I'm using the beta and now I'm using the main. I don't have any of those. And now I'm using the main version, the full version. And it's, you know, it's an update to Android. It's fine.

It's great. It doesn't matter. I'm having, I'm actually having a lot of tension recently because I'm feeling the pull of like, maybe I should go back to the iPhone. But then every time I have an iPhone 10, and every time I use it, I get immediately disgusted and I'm like like never going back. But like I do feel

You know it's the age old. I'm missing out on all these eye message threads. It's fine. They're all fine They're all fine and cares doesn't matter. I mean, I that's how I felt I built that Windows PC and I was like so nervous about Windows You know when does this fine when this is fucking great. It's all fine. find great great. I mean, it's it's everything works now. It's a hell world, but it's like, oh, does it all work in? Yeah, but I mean like everything works period now. Like you buy something. It's probably going to work. I guess you something real quick. All right. Before we bring James in,

I also was just going to plug again that I did a little tech test slash little mini preview episode of my new show Ryan show on Twitch. And you can go check it out. And then this weekend Sunday night at eight o'clock will be the live proper premiere of the show. Expect things to go wrong and have a fun, I love it. I love it. I'm that's twitch.tv slash Ryan show. Wow.

I love that promo. I love the way you said it. I love the pace at which you said the words. I think it was a real slam dunk. So we're going to take a little break. Yeah. that you said the word, I think it was a real slam dunk. So we're gonna take a little break. And then we're gonna bring in James T. Green, who is the audio director here, does all the podcast stuff at the outline. And we're gonna talk about song of the summer, which I recently tweeted about. I'm excited to have a conversation about. What happens if you play monopoly with real money?

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and we're right there. Oh my God, yeah! Make your mornings a little weirder. We're sitting here with James Green, the audio director at the outline, and the man who makes world dispatch happen amongst other things. James, thank you. Yeah, this is actually kind of wild to be here because...

As a subject. Well, I've been, you know, not to blow smoke up your ass, but I've been a tomorrow listener since the very beginning. I'm so sorry. Are you really? Yeah, I know. The beginning? Beginning? Yeah. I'm so sorry. Are you really? Yeah. It's just like the beginning beginning? Yeah, I remember. Wow.

You don't listen anymore though, do you? No, because like, you got it. You have to hear me all the time. I got it. I'm too close now. Yeah, I'm too close, so it's like, the why would I want to casually listen to? That's hard.

That's hard. I could just hear you anywhere. I will say this. I first of thank you, that's really nice. And I don't know if I knew that. I don't know could just hear you anywhere. I will say this, I first of thank you. That's really nice. I don't know if I knew that. I don't know if we've ever talked about it, but that's awesome to hear.

I definitely used to listen to every episode. And then I realized, I used to hear like to be on TV or like actors, they're like, I never watch myself, right? I don't watch my movies or whatever. And I was like, why would you, I'd be like, I gotta see this. But I guess after a while, you're kinda like,

all right, I mean, you do it till it's not painful anymore and you fix some stuff you could see and you know that you fixed it and you've like gotten everything you can out of it. I stopped being annoyed by this out of my own voice and learned some like ticks to stop doing that I'm still trying to work on, but doing my best and I feel like I got what I got out of it.

And now there's no reason for me to go back other than to have to edit stuff. There's no reason for me to go back other than to have to edit stuff. There's no reason for me to watch for myself. I think it's useful to do. I mean, I know for a fact, Beyoncé does that. She watches her performances. I mean, if I sounded like Beyoncé. Yeah.

Watch, she's like, I'm so fucking amazing. So I think it's good to like self-audit yourself. Yes. It's true. It's just not regular. Like, I can do it every once in a while, but I can't, like if someone does a tape of an improv, so I'm like, come on, what does? But we were sitting here, we were talking about white noise, which I think,

in some way, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, well actually, I mean, in a way it is because it's the time of the year when everybody has the fan, some version of a fan on, I mean, many people have either window air conditioners or their air conditioning makes a noise and they can hear it or whatever. So there actually is a kind of, it is sort of the song of the summer's white noise. But I was gonna say you guys trying about,

you were trying to how you love white noise. You were trying to how you love white noise. I, Laura was always a big fan of sleeping prior to our relationship sleeping with something on like the radio or whatever, which I, I'm like, I like silence, like total silence, like I would like a room. I would, I would like this room. You like silence for sleep, actually, I mean, actually, she's in my, wow, getting dunked on already. In my, like, in my, like, when I'm like working or whatever,

I tend to prefer silent, like when I'm like heads down like writing or something. And also sleeping, I've always like dead silence. But then, so when we had Zelda, maybe I've told this story before I can't remember. She has a white noise, but she get babies love white noise, and it's very good for them to help them sleep.

And now she uses the white noise machine every night. And I have become very accustomed to the sound of the white noise over the baby monitor that we have, which is a very specific, like it's like white noise but very thin, like tinny and distant and thin, but it's like us a hiss in the background. And so now if I like go to a hotel, and you know, I'm not the monitor's not there,

because why would it be? I have found a white noise track on Spotify that if I put my phone at a really low volume, it sounds just like the white noise coming off of Zelda's baby monitor. And now I need that to sleep. I was gonna say Zelda's gonna grow up and you're gonna like set up a baby monitor

in the garage. Just to get that sound. I have to. So I'm very curious. Why don't you know, here I am like audio professional here. Why don't you just like record like your space and have that as a track you keep on your phone and then plug that into a Bluetooth whenever you travel. Well, okay.

That's not say a lot more work. Well, okay. That sounds like a lot more work. And this began as a very, like, a surprising instinct where I was like, I think I was in a hotel and I was like, I missed that sound. And I was like, maybe I can find a white noise that sounds like it. And then I went through a bunch of different white noises

and I was like, oh, if I turn it down a little bit and put it on the nightstand, like there it is. So your idea is good, but also, I was in like, it was like a circumstantial thing where I was like, I gotta get it right now. And then, you know, if an aint broke, don't fix it. So I'm very curious, so that's your favorite white noise. I think so.

What is your favorite white noise, Ryan? There is this fan that I bought in freshman year of college. It's like this big and it doesn't move any air and it's so loud, but the sound it makes has just become a comfort to me. Like a box fan? It's a little circle. It's a little tiny, like, I guess it's like a round box fan. And it's broken and it is old and I have to constantly like take dust

out so it'll keep working, but I fucking love it. And when I travel, I get so, I miss it so much that even when we went to Australia, I like found a way to shove it into my suitcase and recover it. Sweat shirts, because like I needed it, because that's gonna be their fault. It's dedication.

What about James, what about you? So my favorite is distant thunderstorms. Oh yeah. Yeah, so it's like the actual thing. Yeah, so like the actual thing is like ideal. Oh, yeah. Like I found a white noise app that it's particularly like the rumbling that I just really like, like even if you could just barely hear it, but it's just like, I don't know, it's

like the closest thing I would imagine to being back in the womb. Yeah. It's interesting. It's just this rumbling kind of low frequency that just. A real rain or thunderstorm to me. It's like a once. It's like winning the lottery. Like I'm like tonight. Yeah. We died. Yeah. Yeah. I agree to that. That's interesting. Though, do you James? Do you listen to it on a bassy system? Like, do you, are you hearing the, like, are you, or is it like coming through your, like a speaker?

It's also sometimes I'll play it through a Bluetooth that like has, like the speaker that I have, it's a Bose sound link mini two. This is not an ad, but that sounds like one. I'm sorry, because like, you know, people are getting like, what's going on with kind of speaker, you know? There'll be a link, link in the post.

They affiliate link in the post. The Bose actually, in the post. They affiliate link in the post. The post actually. Probably the idea. And I just have that on in the middle of the room. And so you can kind of feel the rumble a little bit. Like not enough words disturbing, but enough that it's like, it cuts through. Because it's like you are on the high end,

you have the wine of the AC and the fan. And then on the low end, you have the thunderstorm. So it just becomes this like beautiful sound fan, which that I was going to say, you're the, you're in the, you're the meat in the sandwich. Okay. So, so, okay, moving on from white noise, we're here, we're going to talk about the song of the summer. And I got to say, I, I'm just going to, I don't know exactly what we're going to

talk about. But I feel like I don't know, I haven't heard a lot of songs that I feel like are like, that's the song of the summer. And then I was listening to this Ariana Grande song, this Ariana Grande and Troy Sivan, I think that's how you pronounce his name, called, I believe it's called Dance to This. And I was like, this feels like the song of the summer.

I don't think it is, but it's got the vibe of the song of the summer to me. Yeah. And so I'm like, this like the song of the summer. I don't think it is, but it's got the vibe of the song of the summer to me. Yeah. And so I'm like, this is my song of the summer. I tweeted about it. You just said it. I've listened to it like 20 times on, I've watched the video, very cute video. They're kind of dance around. Are there any grand as their only current?

Oh, wow. Real pop star. This sounds really good. I've never heard it in headphones. Have you heard this? You know, the thing is, I've not consciously listened to it, but in my grocery store, which was, I wrote about the outline not counting. Morning shopping, read the piece about shopping in the early AM. They love playing top 40 radio, So I've definitely heard this.

Yeah. Like emanating while I'm looking for a brief. Can we just hear the chorus when a chorus comes up? It's coming up. We should really just enjoy it. Can I just say something? Wait, hold on. Let's hear the chorus.

Can we pump up that chorus a little bit? I don't think this is a contender for a song of the summer. It is amazing. It's not enough. I love Ariana. I love Ariana. I love Ariana. So, it's second.

Ariana is great, but this feels more like a... I love Trace of I'm too. I'm sick of chillin' to it. I'm sick of everything being so chillin' like, we're just, everything's really hot. Oh, it's good. We need to chill out. That's the thing.

It's too chill. I love some Gaga and the music, I miss it. Okay so let's, so obviously I've made my song of the summer clear and I don't know what, I don't even know if that, for all I know that came out in 2016, I don't even fucking know. No, that's a summer track. Okay, what's going on, what else is going on out there? Who, what are you guys feeling?

What are you doing? I have a theory. I have two things to tell you. Okay, why? One is the song that has sound the most, like a massive pop banger of the kind I am ready to listen to is not a song of the summer and it came out in January. But the middle by Zed and Marin Morris

is the closest to a real pop song that has been a hit in a long-ass time. I've heard that, I think it's bad. Oh, yeah, it's a song. Oh, I think it's amazing. Do you agree this is bad? It's hollow and a manufacturer. Wait, no, I think this is great.

It's great as far as what it is. Oh, yeah. Oh, this song, yeah. Okay, fine, it's good. It's catchy. It's catchy. It's a song about nothing. The song, they don't even describe it. Yeah, it's bad.

Welcome to all pop music. There's a conflict. And I love singing, I'm welcome to all five music. There's a conflict She's just saying like they're having a fight It's also that song today. He did you know what I don't like about this though. It sounds like a fucking country song Well, she's fucking country song. Well, she's a country singer. Well, that would explain why. That would explain everything.

There you go. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Well, because that's not technically a song in the summer, I have my real theory, which I don't want to bring to you. This is my theory. The song of the summer is Gimme Gimme, a cover of an abatrak by Cher, which was released digitally.

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But this is why I think this is a song in the summer. Because Mama Mia to has united America That's correct and the ever revival is real. I don't have a rule and gay people are gonna make this song of the summer I'm so thrilled. Wow You requested you really have a strong opinion on this I want let me just dress so much of what you I don't think that's the song of the song. How dare you. Second, I do believe in the safe. Reads coming here right now. I do believe. Oh, second, bomb. Me has not united shit. How dare you?

United the right. I don't know. Um, uh, I'm saying, I mean, you know, check it out. Like, you know, you know, just open your eyes. Um, I do believe that the Abba Abba rules. That's correct. Yeah, I don't remember the rest of it. I started to kind of black out after that. We need Abba now more than ever. We need pot music that's stupid, that doesn't ask you for a ton of investment

and understanding of issues. It's just full on stupid, fun dancing, and everyone can have a good time. I want the Spice Girls back. Bring back 18. I guess you're definitely a post below on that. No, post below has a lot of baggage. Listen, no one's doubtting that.

No one's questioning that. I just want postman loans to save one of those. Postman loans a bad guy and yet some of his songs are pretty bad. Socialism produces the best pop music. All right, James. Alexandra, cause you'll hear James. Let's give James a chance to express his feelings

about the song and the song. Okay, so my thought, so this is when I realized that this song was in fact the song of the summer. Oh, boy. So I remember particularly, like I remember like it was yesterday. So I was riding my bike home from a Fourth of July party. And I just had like Apple music going on on shuffle. Like I had some like song station or whatever.

And I have like on my bike, I bike everywhere. So I have like the speakers set up on my bike. So it's just like I'm just in Mercen, it's experience, I'm biking through Brooklyn. Like everyone is out. This is a mood. It's such a mood. It was a beautiful night.

Evening what time we're talking about? We're talking at least nine or 47. It's dark. It's dark. It's dark. So it's dark, but it's a weekend night. When was the 4th of July? It was like a Tuesday, right? Yeah.

Oh, this is on the 4th of July. This was on the 4th hour. This was a day out. People are out. I was hit rained early in the day, maybe, and then fireworks were going. And then it dissipated. And so everybody was really out. Got that electric energy.

Yeah. So you just really felt this. And I was biking home from this party. And, you know, like, there's smoke everywhere because everyone's light and not firey works, and you just, like, you feel this energy of this city and everything. And, on the speakers, like, I didn't know where the song,

it was booed up by Ella, my... This song came on, and I was like, by Ella, my. This song came on. And I was like, what the fuck? Mm. And it was just, like, this song feels like lust. It feels like you can feel the sweat. You can smell sunscreen. It's like steam room music.

Yeah. Yes. So like, when I heard that, I was like, You can smell sunscreen. It's like steam room music. Yeah. Yes. So like when I heard that I was like, oh yeah. This is definitely the song of the summer. This is your song of the summer. This is not only my song of the summer. It's everyone's song of the summer.

Is it that? Is it? You know what? I'm just saying, if you keep your ears out. This does seem like love, like a love making song. It potentially. Or just like a lazy making song. It, potentially. Or just like a lazy summer night. So the reason why I feel like this is a song

is a summer for a lot of folks. It's just for my own personal research. You've got to serve it. I'm just like hearing what songs are people playing when you're driving by. What songs are you hearing when you're walking to Tipo Degas, grocery stores, when you're on the beach? What are people playing to get the mood? Yeah, this song.

This is it. Okay. Oh, sorry. What is the song called again? Bood up. Like Bood up, like a computer? No, not Bood up. Bood up.

Like Bood up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was gonna be like, that's a weird day. Time for the song. The Bood up. It's really dirty. Oh, Bood up. Yeah.

By who? Ella May. I believe if I pronounce it. He-L-L-A-N-A-I. OK, I really thought it was like L-M-I. Like L-W-L-L-E-L-A-I. L-M-F-A-O. Yeah.

Returned. We think it was just a bunch of more chill vibe. I mean, that song sounds good. I need to hear the whole thing, obviously. But now here's the question. We've all talked about songs that we love, and you've done apparently some research. Very, very casual research.

What? First of all, I think also, I feel like these songs are well matched. I feel like this makes a lot of sense. I feel like, I don't know, it all feels right to me. Like, these, of course, these are the songs of the summer that we would choose. What is the empirical data say? What does the data say right now about song of the summer? What are the charts saying about the song of the summer? What is the contender? Because like, you can't look at Spotify because it's like

every, it's like 10 songs from Drake's record. Like, I can't, it's like all post-molone songs one of me. Yeah, I can't speak for the like all post-molone songs one of me. I can't speak for the rest of the actual world, because I have no idea what Z100 plays or like the songs my mom knows. But I can't say the only pop song that like my mom knows that also I know that I hear every time I'm out is No Tears After Cry.

I mean, as of this recording right now, boot up is number 10 on the Billboard Hot 100. I'm literally googling. What is the song? It exists like it used to. Oh wow, what does the song American Pie about as an auto predict that comes up, which is like, oh wow.

Like really, what is the song? Couldn't figure that one out. Oh, yeah, geez, of the summer 2018, that's literally an auto complete. Here's NPR talking about it. I mean, according to Billboard, they're saying in my feelings by Drake. Exactly.

But is it though? This song is okay. I mean, I don't think it's a summer song. I think the number two, which is actually my second contender for song in the summer, is I like it by Cardi B. Because you know, that's a song that I feel like I've heard a lot of people be like, this is my jam.

Yeah. I think this song sounds like summer. I think this sounds like, but I also think this song is like, I don't know, it's catchy, but like, it feels like a little obvious, it's fine, it's good. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, you were gonna play this at a kickmaker or a barbecue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the party song.

It should be a little crazy in love. Like you put this on and everybody's moving a little bit, unquestionably. Yeah. What do you want to play? Like the national? Yes, the national. I'm like, hang out.

I know what kind of assumption you're making about me but I fucking hate the national. I mean, I'm just saying it. Ape shit, NPR State, Ape shit. Good song, not song in the summer. I feel like it's a little early. That was a little early for the summer song. No, I was late.

Residente and Dylan Francis featuring, no. Ela, Ela, I don't know, sexo. I haven't felt the song of the summer in my, in my, in my, little Dickey feet, feet, Chris Brown, freaky Friday. What do they write this list? When does this from? Oh July 3rd, come on now.

I haven't felt the song in the summer in my gut since like Demi Lovato put out a banger. I don't feel like I need the song to be like, it needs energy to like slap me in the face. I guess I like it comes closest on this list. So everybody did these lists, everybody did these lists at like, except for Gimming Gimming, which is on this list.

Angelized. I guess there's some fucking SEO stuff that's like do the list in like mid-July. And but like, well, it makes sense, you know, you wanna have a peak summer. Yeah, but like. And you wanna be the first to pick it. But the summer's not over.

What do you think USA Today says? Oh God. There's like some country song here, huh? Let's see. Chuck, khakis. Chuck, are you sure? Okay, I'm sorry. You know what I mean?

Let's go to other list. So quick, quick aside. How would a truck wear pants? Would it be in the front? Or one, one little thing on each tire? I heard each thing. Yeah, the pants are long. We need to have Pixar, what the exact,

this is the dog that says. This is your making reference to the dog. Yes. Okay, the dog picture. Okay, here's the, here's the map that the Pixar cars have their eyes on the windshield and not in the lights. As a leather.

Wow, wait, do that. Yeah, trust me, not. That is, trust me, not. Why would they do that? I don't know why they literally, cars literally have faces because of the headlights. I know. I've actually thought about that too, 1000%

Wow. This is so bad. So it's so toxic. If, you know, brief aside here, like if that is in fact the case and that will make the windshield the forehead for cars. Uh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That makes sense. And the roof is like the hair or whatever. Yeah. The windshield should be. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The roof would be the forehead that the eyes in the windshield, the roof is the forehead. No, I think the hood of the car, the hood of the car is the forehead.

Oh my god. The windshield is the hair. It's nothing because it's a windshield and then the roof is the hair. Anyhow, um, the song of the USA, let's, I'm going to go down this USA today. This is a top, it's a 10 top 10 countdown. I'm going to let's get a little just a quick comment on each one of these. I, this one I've never fucking heard. Nord do I want to 10 girls like you maroon five featuring Cardi B. What?

I don't even know that was a call. You know what? Well, think about maroon five like maroon five is like puts out music and I have no idea it's like pink until it's too late. Like pink and they'll they always have a song on the chart. You're like how does pink still have a song? By the way, did I not call this shit nine meant meant to be Bebe Rexha and Florida, Georgia. Oh, yeah.

I did. You know what? That's a lot of catchy as fuck. I never heard it. I heard that shit. Man, where was I? I heard it. I was like, who the hell is this?

Okay. Yeah. All right. Let me hear the song meant to be by baby Rexha. How do you pronounce her name? Is it Bebe? Bebe. Bebe Rexha.

I don't know. I don't like her or the song. She's blonde. People love it. I think and it's definitely catchy It's just one of those solos kind of went and scrambling to google this right now to get it up And it was just you could tell she was like country song of trap. This is meant to be oh Oh, yeah, this shit. I've heard this. Yeah It's a computer saying yeah, I'm okay. Oh God, I really just like contribute. It's like that tumbler voice version of country. Yeah, this song is catchy. I it is right it just like just like the pre-chorus come in one sec This makes me feel bad for listening to it like a bunch of garage grand loops. Yes, okay, okay, let's hear number eight

Lucid dreams but juice world see this is also a contender. It's a little slower. I think this is the track. I actually think I know this, but I don't. Oh, yeah, the song fucking rules. This is very good. Yes. This, this is a very interesting piece of music. Straight people have to be stopped. I'm sorry. This is like my space. I'm done. Wait, wait, wait, wait straight? We don't know you know, judge. You know, this is straight culture This is like emo no, I'm 1,000 Here we go guys number seven psycho post below and see no tie dollar side. Okay, you know what? I'm gonna put on the record that this song slaps. Wait, okay. Listen, this is what I've seen post Malone.

You know what's most problematic about post Malone is that sometimes you're like, this is good. Like, it's a problem. Like, he blows, he obviously is terrible. No, he's terrible. But then like, some of his songs are like, but it's shit, just like. Well, he doesn't write the songs. Yeah, this sounds good. Yeah, this sounds good. Like, it's terrible. But then like some of his songs are like, but it's shit, just like, well, he doesn't write the songs.

Yeah, this sounds good. Yeah, this song's good. Like, you hear the atmospheric synths on here? It's just like, it's, but ear candy. This is fucking Florida, George Align right here. This fucking country, he's singing, it's like the country hook.

Then the bass comes in. I can't help it, I feel dirty. Okay, I gotta say, I, I have a hand, there's a sweet, there is a sweet of Post-Malon songs that are really fucking catchy, okay? This is one of them Congratulations go flex. I'm in my opinions extremely by the way go can we go flex? I'm dying to do this

Come on. Let's we should do this. You need to get right with Max Martin and your god fuck Max Martin. Okay, wow wow go flex does it not sound like um oh the fucking wears my mind uh by the pixie is now when I hear go flex I think it's like the fucking ho hey people now luminaires no no no I think it either sounds like where's my mind or which pieces that's a big heart just the you watch that we get a video. Does this go flex? Yeah. I've listened to this song a thousand times. This is not sound like the pixies, bro. Yeah, it kind of does. Is it wave of mutilation?

No, I think it wears my mind. I'm gonna do a mashup. You're gonna hear how much it sounds like here. I'm gonna smoke. I tell you to quit, no, no, no, no. You gotta hear the chorus. No, I don't know. Oh, no, I don't know why we're listening to this, but we're just gonna play through the chorus

and they will take it off. It comes up quick, because let me get back to our list here. I mean, I do hate him when you hear him, you're like, fuck this guy. Have you heard this? Counterpoint is music bad. Have you ever heard this? Counterpoint is music bad. Have you heard this song? No. You gotta hear this chorus, okay? Okay.

Where's my mind? Like he knows what he's been doing. Yes. It's producers the whole day. Yeah. The producers. The main drops here. This is what my brothers are like. Yeah, this is how hey, you's producers. They're dead. Yeah, the producers of the mini drops here. This is why my brothers are like that. Yeah, this is how hey you're right Yeah, this is a luminerius. All right Number six the middle Z. Maran Morris and Gray. We already covered that one. Okay, five gods plan. Oh, yeah

This is in July. Yeah, but God's plan is like Older. Yeah, that's this is from July 20th. Okay. What if the song of the summer is run away with me by Carly Raid Dropson? Oh, actually, what we should talk about is what we're gonna back. What we should be talking about. All right, no tears left to cry. Number four, this is what they,

this is USA to date, a real song. Boot up LMI. Yep, see there. Okay, number that's number three. That was good. Uh, I like it. Yep. And here's what USA today, the America's voice. That's what I like it. Pete the song of the summer. And here's what USA Today, the America's voice.

That's what I like it. I mean, actually, I can't believe we haven't talked about this. Nice for what? Nice for what? I knew I had it highlighted that you hadn't mentioned it. I wanted to go as long as we could go. Okay, I will say this. Nice for what?

Yeah, you're right. Exactly. Like the song of the summer. Yeah, you're right. You're right. I just highlighted. I couldn't believe you didn't mention it. Now, that's it. That's correct. It's nice to know.

That's right. Yeah, you're right. The song's fucking good. We had a 20 minute discussion on this five-guet tonight for a while. There was one day that I listened to the song in the car on repeat for my entire drive. Yeah, it was like an Alan Reign.

This is a real pop song. A real song of the summer. The shit gives you fucking the dance is in your ass hole. It's the best. The fucking middle. The bridge with the fucking build up. The whole fucking gig of the bounce. It's so good. It's so big. Rita, come on. it's the bad. The fucking middle, the bridge with the fucking build up, the whole fucking giga of the bounce. It's so good.

It's so big, pretty, come on, it's got everything. I can't believe USA Today delivered us this. Okay, going. Oh, and this video was incredible, I have to say. Yeah, so really, really, I guess it kind of fucked up, but I guess I could've, you know, I, whatever. So I went to a pitchfork fest a couple weeks ago and I saw Lauren Hill perform.

And you know, like Nice for What samples Lauren Hill's X-Factor. So she played Lauren Hill's X-Factor. Oh, no. That's all she was playing it. And I couldn't help but to start dancing and start singing the lyrics to Nice for What. Yeah.

She made other people around me started to do you think do you think she's a Do you think she's mad about that or like no because you have a check that's true. I mean yeah I do the hung up dance to my song of the summer and it's because like that should gets in your head Yeah, it's where it lives now music is just like physical. It's weird because nice for what was early though That's the thing I think that now I almost forgot. No, song of the summer right there. That is definitely, I have to say. I think that feeling in your shoulders

you're like, I gotta get up. I've gone through all these other songs of the summer. I now feel that my thing about that song being the song of the summer is like very wrong. Like the song of the summer that I liked is my song of the summer. I now recognize as being not the song of the summer that I liked is my song of the summer. I now recognize as being not the song of the summer, both like on a kind of like, you got to follow that tweet on a kind of widespread basis, but also now for me personally, I'm questioning

what I was thinking when I tweeted about it because listening to nice for what I'm like, oh, yeah, obviously, this is the kind of song that we should be talking about when we talk about song of summer. I mean, to give you that that like I chugged a Red Bull energy. Yeah. For summer. What did you say was a song summer? The one that I the very song and Ariana Grande song. Oh, you already forgot about it.

That's a very. All chill pop. Yeah, I'm so sick of it. I'm sick of it as a trend. It's gone on way too long. What is it? The chill pop and Tumblr voice that like we talked about the bananese avocates, Halsey accent. Oh, that's gone on way too long. What is it? The chill pop and Tumblr voice that like, we talked about the bananese avocaties, Halsey accent.

Oh, that's got to fucking go. We got to go. I need a banger. I feel like that started because of chain smokers. Oh, absolutely. I did. The prevalence of chain smokers. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Hold on, hold on. Prevolence of chain smokers and the collision of, um, of Diplop. Okay, hold on. Cause it's the thing about you. Grimes, I think, is responsible for that voice personally. And it's spread into the mainstream. Grimes doesn't get cr- I don't want to give Grimes credit

because she sucks now. But, oh, I just remember there's one other thing we have to talk about, at least one of the things. The Robin song missing you, which is great. Okay, I think it's a bad song. I did not feel it. I am not feeling it. James.

No, I enjoyed it. Yeah, but it's not like a great song. It's not dancing on my own. No. Well, how often do those come around? I mean, she's like, I've never liked a prayer. I've never loved a one.

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And then everyone copied, photocopy of that. Holy shit. Have you, this is, I guess this is kind of old and internet, but like the video of like how every chain spoke her song is made. No. Oh my god. Oh my god.

That sounds really good. What is it? Oh my god. Winching. Can you cue up? I think it's like, this is a video. It's called like how every chain spoke her song is made.

While that's being cute. It's so fucking good. I, who the fuck is Billy Eilish? Can someone tell me please? I have no idea. Are you kidding me? I've seen her everywhere and I don't know anything about her.

Billie Eilish? It's like E-I-L-I-S-H. Oh yeah. She's a real sky forever. Knock off. Yeah, she's like sky forever, but like more palatable. Oh man, forget about the horror.

Yeah, sky forever had one great song. I think she's coming back. Then she's like, I'm gonna do a folk record where she's like, I'm gonna do like a rock record. It's like, no, you should just do more. Ocean eyes went viral in accumulated 87 million streams on Spotify alone as it's like 20 to 20. She's like a Tumblr person.

She's like sound, whatever the, I mean, whatever SoundCloud rap is for girls. She looks like a color for girls from Tumblr. Yeah yeah sound cloud rap for girls from tumblr. Whatever that is She looks like color factory Okay, let's see here we go What is this? This is chain smokers One that's gonna be your base

Major one time major your chorus is literally just gonna be this this is all closer was just fucking this guy's went to like jewelry art, right? The taste motor. And you sing a bit of a song like, eh. It could be... It's so... I don't know if I can... This guy high.

So basically you'll find lyrics that talk about how hard it is being white and in love. But I decided on a central theme. How hard it is being white and in love This new one by them the theme is like mid-sune shit my theme is gonna be champagne And you want to follow whatever note is on top of the corridor playing so you have this one you sing this note this one like you know Keep going on about like you know your parents Let's go out and then the break done All right, I'm gonna choose these chords now. Wow, this guy really wet in on this. So perfect.

And then you want like a little breakdown for the big breakdown. Who is this person? This is really good. He sounds like Ryan Gosling. This person's voice sounds like Ryan Gosling. A little bit. I'm gonna put it all together. I'm like, wanna hear the song. Oh yeah. It works. I would listen to this I think they did for the last album which is utter trash We'll take the random noun and they just want to the song. I'm just picture it

Right god's like his play runner jacket at a piano This is on point. It seemed like you're just suffering. Like, you're not doing well in school. But I'm doing fine. Maybe something before the course. Wow. And I talk more about the main noun you chose, so basically, like, that old oak tree, where is the place to go? We're gonna write a song about the breeze.

Alright, that's corn. We're gonna have to smell like the breeze. You always said to me. Oh, wait, is this Todd and the shadows? Longer to the turd. Alright, alright. Okay, I've heard enough of this YouTube video. It's about YouTube video.

It sounds very good. In the meantime, I discovered that Billy Eilish was born after 9-11. Which just shook me. She's 16 years old. Oh, what? Really? She was born in 2001 at the end. Oh, I thought she was like a crazy drug addict or something. She was born after Upsa did it again and she's now a pop star.

I am old as the hell. I am an elderly man. She definitely puts off a vibe of like, she's on drugs. So maybe she's her parents, she could have some help. By the way, Lith and her, if you want to find that YouTube list, the user, it's John Fathold. John Fathold. Yeah, he's actually a jazz pianist. Oh, there you go.

Oh, so he's like Ryan Gosling from Lollolite. This is why he sounds like Ryan Gosling from Lollolite. Pretty bad. Um, what's the name of the video? What's the title? How ever you change Smoker's song is written. It's great. What does he look like? Does he look like Ryan Gosling? No.

Okay. It's disappointing. I don't ever want to see him. I want to keep it bad. Yeah. It's Ryan Gosling. All right. Well, we should wrap up any further any final thoughts or further thoughts on the song

of the summer. I feel like now any song that comes out now. Can I get this song? It was way too late. Yeah. Well, yeah. It's the end of the summer. Which is the Halloween. It's the Halloween. You can be the Halloween yeah, it's the end of the summer. Which is the best. You can be the Halloween Bob.

That's the best you can be. I don't know. I'm personally ready for cozy music. Yeah. Yeah, like what falls gonna bring. Well, yeah, you know, like, I feel like we've been cheated out of the last month of the summer so far because August here in New York has been raining

basically every day. Doesn't it, hasn't it? My crazy hasn't rained a ton. Yeah. And so like, I feel like we need another warm month. Like, I hope September is a warm month. I'm sorry, don't make that face to me when she's like, Oh, my song of September is September.

I was just about to snob. No, no, I want, I want warm days slightly cooler nights, but like, you don't make it. You can still go to the beach. Do you remember? It's 21st night't need to go to the beach. But do you remember? Twenty first night. September. What?

I was saying the only song of September is September. What is? Oh, September. No, there are other songs of September. It's the only song of September. I don't know at any rate. I mean, the song of October is, uh, was that American idiot song? I was.

Oh, uh, wake me up when. What would have ever had time? I was thinking about, uh, fucking, uh, cry for you by September. What about November rain? That's a good November song. We love November songs. The fucking what's that other one? It's like the one by Green Day.

Oh no, that's September. No, what's the one? Oh yeah. It's making up on September. It's a song of October. Yeah. Well October's got a lot going for it. It's making up on September. It's a song of October. Yeah. Well, October's got a lot going for it. It's Halloween Halloween, my birthday.

Yeah. It's exciting time on your Scorpio, right? I'm a Libra. Can you tell by how balanced I am, how balanced I seem, and how I'm always like the calming force in every room. That's like Libra shit. They're like, you settle all the arguments for your friends and you're so balanced and you're a calming force.

I'm like, this is the exact opposite of me. You're describing your rising must be something different. It's something radical So for all of our things that we love on the internet I'm gonna turn this right right and tell you our end night. You should watch Videos where they have astrologers try to figure out what sign you are based on a conversation with you about your personality and it never works based on a conversation with you about your personality and it never works. Yeah. Is that a thing? Flame on my YouTube.

All right, so we're doing this thing at the end of the episode. Now it's like your favorite thing, or like a good thing on the internet, or the thing you're loving or whatever. Oh, okay. Does that mean it could be, honestly, we can take it off the internet as well. It could just be something that you love, or that you're into right now. Yeah. But the internet's fine too, but it could also just be like whatever.

You want to do it? Oh, yeah. I can go now. Oh, man. So what I'm liking right now is SweetBitter, the show and the book. What is SweetBitter? So I'm a big fan of any type of media that has to do with the restaurant industry

and just like the ins and outs. I'm such a process oriented person. So I love reading about the processes of how food is made, everywhere from the hierarchies, between chefs and cooks and wait staff and all that stuff. So sweet bitters. It's stars.

Yeah, so it's a show on stars. It was based on a novel. And the novel follows a 22-year-old who moved from Ohio to New York in 2006, I believe. And basically documents her year in New York. It's a drama or it's a documentary. Oh, it's a drama. It's fiction.

And basically she gets a job at a restaurant and it's like kind of like a conversation. Oh, this is on Netflix. It's on stars. A star. Yes. So like the book was great. Like it was like the perfect, like summer book.

It's a perfect summer book. Summer. Yeah, so it's perfect summer read. And then the stars adaptation is really great because a they like every episode there is like a scene straight from the book. So book readers like feel some type of connection connection to it. And be just like, I don't know, just the way that it's shot, the way that it's like put together, it's breezy, but not in like a bad way. It's more like, there's a lot of room

for the characters to breathe. Like, I definitely felt like the writer's room in the show paid attention to the feel of the book. You could tell that the author was heavily involved. I just really liked it. Here's my question. Just based on what I just saw Ryan showed me the sort of title,

some images from the show. Yeah. Does it, is it anything like the Devil wears product? I was gonna say is the Devil wears product for me? Oh, they're, they're the lot of comparisons. I was just gonna say it. Yeah, because it, because I'm, because in that case, I will watch all of it.

I'm signing up. And also like, now I really wouldn't want to rewatch Devil wears product, which I haven't seen in a couple of months. Yeah, there's a lot of comparisons. Watch that every two weeks. It's such a good, it's such a good booby. It's like a weirdly bad booby booby. I saw a really great meme, which was Andy Sacks

like being like, but those belts are so similar. And then Miranda says, if you had a business that you were passionate about, you would know that it takes to run a business, but you fucking don't. Oh yeah, can I do one more too? Yeah, of course. Oh, there were unions special for real housewives in New York. Yes

Welcome to the podcast will be coming into the second hour You guys you're just break up that's all I'm just gonna drop that And I'm not gonna do it, but I feel like I now I crossed, it's too late to get into any real housewives contest. It's not too late. It's too much out there. It's too much out there. Okay, I'm gonna do, I already said my thing, which is this game, Dead Cells, which is like,

it also sounds like it's gonna be real dark, but it's not, it's like so fun, so much fun, if you like Castlevania that is. So I'm all over Dead Cells. I feel like I'm just trying to give of other things I like or have liked. It's not a lot of TV I'm watching. Oh, why are you saying this too? This is so dumb.

This is so dumb. Deadpool too. I, right. Go watch Deadpool too. It's funny. It's a funny movie. I mean, it's not good exactly. But I gotta hand it, I gotta hand it to Ryan Reynolds.

I never thought, I was like, this guy's also always gonna be like, that guy. You know, like, oh yeah, that guy, he's like, he's like the love interest in this thing or whatever, like, I don't know, Ryan Reynolds, like, he's made it time, it's good. He's very funny. One of the few men who I was attracted to

as a teenager in that, like, I want a mean straight guy who's funny to like me, way. I'm still attracted to him. He's like, no guilt over. He's like, attracted to him. And he's a no guilt over it. Which is like achievement for him. He's like, it's like it would be easy to mistake him for Dane Cook, you know? But he's hot. So that to me was always like, oh yeah, he's like the kind of Dane Cook looking guy. Who's like a douchebag. I imagine like the quadrant of like chaotic like, evil and dangerous. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's like, but I still am attracted to him,

which I think is an achievement. But I gotta say, he turns out he seems like a fairly decent guy who's in a very funny series of movies and doesn't take himself too seriously. Flight sidebar in relation to Deadpool. So like, I've been noticing particularly, a large influx of Deadpool tattoos by particularly white men.

On the left of the arms. Gonna be a bad sign. Like I've been seeing it. And they're gonna take him like they take Pepe. Like I just don't know, I'm just very curious. I definitely feel like. I see through the filter. I'm, they're gonna ruin it like they ruin the matrix.

Yeah, they're definitely gonna be like, the all right. But it's something it's like literally today, deadass I saw two people with Deadpool tattoos in my neighborhood. I don't want to walk. I don't want to judge, but I don't want to judge. I'm just curious. I'm there. No judgment. I'm just very. Oh, I know. I was about to judge, though. I would say I don't want to judge, but like I'm sorry. I in listen, you know what? Everybody can get whatever ink they want, but I'm just saying I got a Tweety bird. I think a Deadpool tattoo is like, you know, we don't have to talk about regret,

but I just feel like you're making the wrong choice. That's all I have to say. If you're going to make your choice, make your choice boldly. I don't think Deadpool is an on-permanent body. Do you don't have any Deadpool tattoos? No, no. You have any Deadpool tattoos? I don't have any.

I have any tattoos. I would love to know if any listeners have Deadpool tattoos. I feel like there's a great question. Tweety dead us or call it. Do we still remember? Or the Joker? I'd also like to know if you have a Joker chapter. The Joker is also a dangerous one.

Or Harley Quinn, that's a whole category. Oh, I see in a couple of those. Yeah, Harley Quinn. A Harley Quinn fandom is confusing to me. Well, I like the character, but the like, it's a bad aesthetic to incorporate. Oh, right, she's in, oh, right, she's in Suicide Squad, right? Yeah. Oh, right, she's played bad aesthetic to incorporate. Oh right, she's in, oh right, she's in suicide squad, right? Oh right, she's played by Margot Robbie. Yeah.

Oh, that's not the Harley Quinn, I think, if I think of the one from like the Batman anime series. And I mean, serious, yeah. Are like, who's great. Yeah. I was just thinking about, just now you made me remember suicide squad. Oh no, we got a girlfriend.

Have you ever seen that movie? We were supposed to end on a good thing. This fucking crazy. It's the end on a good thing. This fucking crazy. It's so bad. It's so bad. I'm sorry, I just like all the adeasy shit, but Su's has quite especially is like, you kind of can't imagine how somebody can make a movie so bad.

That's what I said, with that much money and stars and development time and reshoots and CGI, and he still made a piece. That's so dope. All right, anyhow, James, thank you so much for being here. Even though I know you're here all the time, I know. You're not on this show all the time, and so I really had James. Thank you so much for being here, even though I know you're here all the time. I know. You're not on this show all the time,

and so I really enjoyed it. It's nice to not really be thinking about the production of it. Yeah. Which is nice. It's nice just to talk. Thank you, Wynton. And before we go, reminder,

you need to listen to the world outline world this batch, which is James owns and runs and creates from just pure, a pure place of joy. It's a lot of fun, honestly, like, especially if you enjoyed like this and me and you enjoy the outline, which, yeah, obviously do. You do, right? Yeah.

You're a live person. Yeah. I mean, like, it's mean, it's like under 10 minutes, every Monday through Thursday. It's a morning thing, you can listen to it. I mean, you can listen to it in the morning, you don't have to, it's not like an update. But it's like, some people let me know that they like binge them on the weekend,

which is like actually a pretty fucking good idea. I've actually done a lot of binging because I'll miss some episodes like, and then I'll catch up, because they're very compact. It's like, I don't know how would you describe it. Let's say you met me on the street and you were telling somebody about where this pet

was you tell them. So I always liken it to like an audio mixtape. So basically, I take a story from the outline, I make an audio version of that story, and then don't think about it is that we use tape that the reporter gathered for the written story. And then, essentially, it's almost like the director's cut of the story, so you hear a little bit about how the story was made,

as well as you learn a little bit more about the story. So, even if you read the story, you're getting another side of it. It's like, you're hearing from the people that they've interviewed. There's a lot of great sound design. I don't know. It's a lot of fun. It is the sound design is awesome. And in fact, in the early days of James's world, this batch episodes, I was like, so holy shit,

this is so fucking crazy. I hadn't considered, because it started as a thing where, well, we'll do this like compact, like these compact little stories. And they were good. They were great. You know, it was very straightforward in the sense that like, it was more straightforward. Like, it didn't play with the actual concept of it being audio as much. And I feel like now they're much more like, I don't know. Well, thank you. I love what it has evolved into and where it has gone. And I think everybody should listen to it

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It's literally like that's the cell. That's right. It's almost, it's almost, I mean, maybe we've done some episodes that have some Trump adjacent. Well, yeah. You know, but it's not like, no, no, no, no. You can't stop poison from leaking. Like, what was the episode today?

Oh, man, today's episode was great. So it was about, we, yeah, perfect example. It was me and Andeer Gayo, a culture staff writer, and we discussed how four music nerds and journalists find new music in the age of the algorithm. So again, with a perfect example of, you had to written piece on the outline. And but on this way, you get to hear the actual tape

of the people explaining like what they do. And it's just a lot, it's just great. It's cool. Like, I haven't listened to it yet, but I did love Anne's story, which is a really, also a really good story about breaking out of the rut of like the algorithm suggesting things to you and being kind of at the mercy of popularity waves

or whatever. Anyhow, world dispatch, listen to it. It's at four days a week. It's the best 10 to 15 minutes you can spend in audio, in my opinion. And James, you know, is a brilliant producer and makes a beautiful product. And I think you should all spend time with it.

I'll thank you. Many had James, this is beautiful product. And I think you should all spend time with it. Many had James' super fun. And I enjoyed getting, I feel like one, getting schooled on what is going on out there with the song of the summer. But also remembering that the song of the summer ultimately is inside all of us. I mean, yeah, I don't know what that means, but.

Have a fresh day. Bye. Bye. Bye. I don't know what that means, but... HELL PERSHED! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Bye! Bye! Well, that's our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow, and as always, I wish you and your family the very best. But I've just learned that your family is in the middle. Why can't you just meet them in the middle?