Tomorrow - 136: Child's Play

Episode Date: October 19, 2018

If you thought episode 136 was going to be mostly about fairytales, opioids, and the Microsoft Courier, you have weirdly specific ideas but you're also correct. Josh (the birthday boy) is on cold med...s and Ryan is all fired up about game developers unionizing so no need to DNA test this episode to know it's a quality installment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey and welcome to Tomorrow, I'm your host, Joshua Tupulski. Today on the podcast we discuss Cux, Snow White, and the Microsoft Currier. I don't always one minute. Let's get right into it. All right, Ryan, we're back. It's another week. Another week?
Starting point is 00:00:42 Another week of madness. And I have to say, it's been a very bad week for me. I've been very ill. I've had a combination cold and sinus, I guess, infection. I don't know what's going on. It's like a Taco Bell, pizza hot Taco Bell. But my body is giving out. Anyhow, it's been a crazy week of news.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I have some personal news, it's not personal news. It's like tech nerd shit that happened this week that I want to talk about. Some of it related to the TV stuff we were talking about last week. But also, there's a lot of horrible things going on in the world that we should discuss. And also, there's some good things going on, I guess a star is born, has been doing well, but weirdly so has Venom, so clearly people. Number one, the album on the Billboard 100 though. And that one. Yeah, it looks like the only album that's come out in the last two months.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Although you think people would be doing more Christmas albums. Where are the Christmas records? I guess that's not until like next month. Yeah, they're gonna roll those Halloween. Anyhow, so what's going on? We're gonna talk about this. A lot of news happening. There's a lot of...
Starting point is 00:01:42 Oh, check why. I know you wanted to talk about TV stuff as a follow-up. Oh, okay. Well, okay. So we were last week I was bitching about, there's a lot of news happening. There's a lot of talk about TV stuff as a follow-up. Well, okay. So we were last week I was bitching about how there's like, I don't want to have to deal with a situation where I'm like, I have to think about services. I just want like a central place and then I just choose something and then it just shows me the thing and then I don't have to ever think about like a genie for your TV. I just want, no, I want something that's like normal.
Starting point is 00:02:03 It's like, I want Sonos, Sonos is actually a bad example, but Sonos is as close as you get. I just want something that takes all, I want HBO to not be like its own app. I wanted to just be a content provider in a feed essentially. Yeah, you just want to log a whole bunch of things into it, like a central website in the class.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Yes, yes, I want to log into one place and have it be like, okay, you're now logged in all these things and we're going to not discriminate in terms of the way you get your, you're getting the same type of thing you want, you're going to get a video, okay? You're going to get a video and that's, we're just going to give you the video and you don't have to worry about any of the other stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:37 You know, just like everybody's poorly built app. Yeah, it's like the showtime app and the HBO app aren't like real special. They're just running videos. Hulu and HBO are not different. Hulu and Netflix are not different. They're all bad interfaces too. Yeah, I get that Netflix is like good.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I guess they're better at discovery or whatever and they like give you recommendations. I understand that, but like I'm just saying I don't want to deal with that. I want to I want to I want to something that I so anyhow says somebody was like, oh, you should try Kavo, which is this box that this company made, that you plug all of your shit into, and then it uses machine learning to read the screen, and then I don't know. Anyhow, I was in nightmare situation to set up. I got one.
Starting point is 00:03:14 They were actually excellent. They gave me, they went above and beyond in terms of customer service support. I discovered that I have some connection issues in my set up, but I ripped apart my entire AV setup, and then I was like, you know what, I just wanna watch Bojack Horseman. Like I don't even have,
Starting point is 00:03:31 so basically what happened is I took, I basically unplugged everything, and now I just have my PS4, my Apple TV, and my Xbox, and the Switch, and that's it. Now everything else is disconnected. That's my setup. I have cable running through my Xbox, a PS4 hooked up,
Starting point is 00:03:45 switch hooked up, and then everything else is just not. I don't even know. Yeah, I'm done with all that shit. I watched a direct TV now. I got a subscription to direct TV now. That's how I watch if I need to watch live TV on the Apple TV. And this is good enough. It's good enough. I'm not going to change. The CarVo device is very nice. It's good enough. I'm not gonna change the calvo device is very nice It's very it's very elegant. I'm for certain people. I'm sure it would work really well It's just not for it's just too much Set up for me. Yeah, I mean stuck in my ways now I went to a modern IR blast there. We were like all right This is well, I already have an IR blast right have a harmony remote. So it's basically I did accidentally like
Starting point is 00:04:24 Refine my setup a little bit because of it. The Kava seems like a very nice device, but I'll be returning mine because I don't need it. I've already have my setup and it's just more stressed than I need. How much is it? It's a hundred bucks. It's a very nice device.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And if I had not had the connection, headaches that I had, which were my own problem, not anything to do with the device itself, it has some... It's not like, so... It would be good for me because I could plug all my stuff into it and then like, it would run everything centrally because right now I end up having to... Do you want my... Do you want my calvo? Do you want to try it?
Starting point is 00:04:55 I mean, I'll try it. I'll give it a go. I'll sell to you at a very reasonable price. I'm very cheap. No, if you want to try it out, you should try it. I'll give it to you at a very reasonable price. Very cheap. No, if you want to try it out, you should try. I'll give it to you You can take it and you should just like tell me what your results are But then okay, that's it. So then you know, I got a pixel 3 XL Or just cam. Yeah, it's it's just like the pixel 2. I mean honestly the thing it's like the notches are so disgusting
Starting point is 00:05:21 They're so disgusting. They're so dumb and useless and stupid and ugly. That's all I have to say is like the phone is perfectly wonderful, but those notches are stupid and they should never exist. They should not have existed. I've had, so a new iPad was announced that they're going to announce it. They made an announcement to make an announcement. they just happen to be this morning. I was like, let me sell my iPad while it's sale prices. Oh, it's all taught. And I like locked in the price at whatever great price and then they announced it like an hour later, it was like, it was amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:55 It was a big, so you sold your iPad. So I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna sell it. How did you, oh, you eBay? No, through like a, you know, a gazelle like service. Oh, really? Is that how you do it now these days? I don't have the time to be on eBay. No, through like a gazelle-like service. Oh, really? Is that how you do it now these days? I don't have the time to be on eBay.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Does that work? Does that shit work? It does work. I've done it for audits. Interesting. Interesting, really. OK, maybe that's what I should do. I mean, I have a lot of crap laying around.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Wait, wait, wait. You can make a bunch of money. I mean, even just to apple trading, you don't get the best price. OK, you need to send me some links when we're done here. I need to know what I should be doing, what I service I should be using because I'm like, honestly, I have so much crap I could get rid of. It's kind of sick. You should get rid of all that shit, put it into a trust and then when Zelda's 18, Josh's old tech trust. My tech cash.
Starting point is 00:06:43 The new iPad is coming out and I was like, well, let me even see what this new iPad is. And it looks pretty good. It's like the first really big like overhaul of the hardware in a long time. And I was, there's pictures already. I don't know. Well, there's like leaks. You know how they're working?
Starting point is 00:06:57 Are they on the, is it on the verge? Let me take a look here. And one of the main leaks is that there won't be a notch because there's so much space in the iPad, they can integrate face ID so we don't see it and i was like that's an admission that the notches bad because it's not just a good top-up solution if it was truly something they wanted to do they would do it on the iPad but they're not because they don't want that you don't need a notch and this brings me to my other thing i'm gonna talk about in a second, but I'm looking for the leak here. Nothing here, you know, I don't see any leak. Oh, you know what the project that I thought
Starting point is 00:07:28 was really interesting today was in telling it's getting super into folding laptops and tablets. Yeah, everybody's all of a sudden everybody's like, hey, the career was a really good idea and we should do it. Right? I mean, the career is the coolest thing, and you know, people don't even remember these days,
Starting point is 00:07:43 but this looks, I'm sorry, I'm looking at this verge. I'm looking at this verge article. I'm looking at this picture with Deed or holding these things. This looks ridiculous. It doesn't look cool at all. It's bad. I do not want to type on the touch screen.
Starting point is 00:07:54 This looks bad. This is just dumb. This is just dumb. iPad replacement to do work where one page is a web page and the other page is for me to take notes. That actually sounds really nice to me as a use case for the iPad because as it stands, you use the pencil to take notes
Starting point is 00:08:09 and you can't do that while you're browsing the web because there's no like edge where you can type or you can write on the web page and like even the split screen apps, it's too small to really do that. Like a folding device might actually have a use case and just don't know what it is yet and nobody's got it. I'm looking at it.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I think folding could work. I mean, I like this, I like don't know what it is yet. And nobody's got it. I'm looking at, I think folding, I think folding could work. I mean, I like this, I like some of what the Surface Pro does as it, I mean, has folding in as elements that kind of fold and can be rearranged and stuff. Okay, I'm looking at this iPad render. Like it, who cares? It just looks like a fucking iPhone.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah, to me. Just looks like a big iPhone. But here's the thing, here's the thing. Yeah, to me. It's just a big iPhone. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. The notch is bullshit. The notch is, what we're talking about is removing a couple of millimeters of space above. Like where the time is displayed, it's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I mean, but the point is it's like, listen, you are interrupting a screen for cameras that are far less valuable and important than the screen. And you can use the whole screen, but not if there's a thing in the middle of it. It's just a very bad design. Just drop the screen slightly, and guess what you can do with that extra space? Put a headphone jack back in. How about that?
Starting point is 00:09:25 No, this is what I'm saying is that, so I got it, so then I, so then I, like, because I was like kind of like annoyed with the notch. So I'm like, I'm gonna get the Galaxy Note 9 as a, I'm just gonna get it because I feel like it,
Starting point is 00:09:36 maybe it's, maybe I'll like it. And I have to say, it's beautiful hardware. Honestly, like, I think it's much cooler hardware than, I mean, maybe than anybody's making right now. Like, I'm impressed with Samsung's hardware. It's really well done.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I got the lavender one, so it looks really fucking dope. The camera is just, I'm sorry, the pixel camera is so fucking good. Like the Note 9 camera would be good in the universe where the pixel didn't exist. But like, comparing them... I look at the... Earth and it's like, I have to have this. Like, I mean... 9 camera would be good in a universe where the pixel didn't exist. But like comparing them. Earth and it's like, I have to have this.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Like I mean, comparing them side by side. No, this is the fucked up thing. I mean, people with iPhone, they're always like, when I take pictures with my pixel, my pixel to the pixel to is amazing as well. But when I take pictures with it, people are like, what is this? And it's like, you know, it's very fucking good. It's like disturbingly good. And so I don't think people really get it.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Like I don't think people are realizing how impressive it is. But I've been taking like test photos like all over the place, just trying to kind of just feel out like what the differences are. And I have to say, I mean, there's some like staggering differences like, I'm looking right now,
Starting point is 00:10:49 I took a picture of a wall in our house that's wood and it's like the wood grain is, it's like disappeared on the Samsung photo. Not, not totally, but it's like the image is so over processed. Something a little better. I'm just a little bit more popular is really polishing things up. And Apple's attempt to do that just made everybody like. Something a little better. Offer is really polishing things up. And Apple's attempt to do that just made everybody
Starting point is 00:11:07 look like a Snapchat filter. There's something that their AI is actually doing, which they promised years ago with Android. They were like, the camera will get better because they're software will keep learning. And I was like, all right, sure, jerk off motion. But it actually does need to be doing something really great. Because the cameras themselves are not,
Starting point is 00:11:24 I know them sure they're perfectly finely tuned because it's their hardware, that they're really learning how to, they're getting really good at hardware or whatever. But it has to also be the software end because it's not like these cameras are such special, completely different. They're not putting like insane lenses in there
Starting point is 00:11:39 that Apple wouldn't have access to. They're using what has to essentially be an off-the-shelf camera. So their processing must just be so good or even in the situation, analyzing what the situation is and adjusting the physical camera to it, it must be doing that because it looks so different. It's staggeringly different. Like just playing around with the clock. I want to show you these two pictures.
Starting point is 00:11:58 So the first one is the pixel two, sorry, pixel three XL. Now I want you to really look at the wood grain here, okay? And look at the amount of digital noise or lack thereof, okay? One of these wood and the other one looks like a photo of wood. Yeah, so it's not like it's a horrible, it's not like the difference is like wild. I mean, in the sense that I feel like you can look at them
Starting point is 00:12:22 and you go like, yeah, I mean, but if you switch between these two pictures, the wood grain is so much richer and clearer compared to the galaxy note picture. And then it's just staggering to me. So so I really like the, um, I really like the galaxy note. And I think it feels really fast and it's the screen is beautiful. And this is my point is that it doesn't have a fucking notch. And it looks great.
Starting point is 00:12:46 It looks better than both the iPhone and the Pixel 3 XL in terms of looking at the screen. There's no interruption, it feels completely like this vast space. And so obviously it's possible. And for whatever reason, they're just, you know, it's like they just have chosen to do this dumb notch. It's like this dumb design choice.
Starting point is 00:13:07 That's now, if infecting the entirety of the, this is not an important thing at all, but I just think it's bad. I'm a laptop with Face ID. There will be no notch because the notch is bad. And then you just, in a mission that the notch is terrible. They need to get rid of the notch.
Starting point is 00:13:20 They need to get rid of the fucking notch. And the fact that Google is like, oh, we'll do a notch too, is just a sad, it's a very sad situation. Okay, so let's move on. There's other stuff in the news. Elizabeth Warren, one percent Native American and we're all, I don't know. What is, what is this thinking? What is the point right now? First off, first off, let's just be very clear. Okay, she got trolled by the master troll, the trolling chief, and she took the bait, and but why three weeks before the midterms,
Starting point is 00:13:55 did this seem like a necessary thing to do? Why would you bring it up? Like nobody was talking about this. Yeah, it's like you're responding to a joke that somebody told six hours earlier at a party. You know? What are you talking about this? Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's like you're responding to a joke that somebody told six hours earlier at a party. So you're, I mean, it's like, first off, I mean, there's a whole other set of issues with,
Starting point is 00:14:12 Elizabeth Warren being like, I'm Native American or whatever, it's like, have a drop. So she subscribes to apparently that theory or the theory that like, Reese is dependent on DNA profiles that's supposed to like, how you present to the world and how you were raised and you're like identity. It's not like, yeah, it's not like there's like Native American traditions that her family has held on to. It's like, who knows the origin of the... Or she ever was treated that way. And also now it led to like Lindsey Graham being like,
Starting point is 00:14:37 well, I'll get tested. And I'll show you that I have even more to it. It was like, uh, could we just not build the Keystone XL public? Everyone has to vote. Yeah, it's everyone's a fucking idiot. I think that's the reason I, here's the Elizabeth Warren. I honestly, I really don't see her being a viable candidate in, in, in, in the current climate in America. I just don't. I mean, there's, you know, for president, I think there's lots of reasons, by the way, that Elizabeth Warren would not, would not be a good choice. Not just because of the Native American thing, and not just because, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:15:11 she's just, there's just a whole slew of things. She's very, look, I think she's a brilliant politician and has done some really good things. It's great where she is, but I just think there's a certain, I don't know, we're living in a really fucking weird moment, you know, and we cannot fuck around right now. Like we cannot do the thing that we think is like the, I mean, honestly, I hate to say this, but Democrats always do this shit with their life.
Starting point is 00:15:38 We got to do the thing that's right, the right thing. And it's like, no, you need to do the thing that'll win, you know? Like you want to be like, well, they, you know, Hillary didn't make it. And it's like, who know, I'm sure there are people going like, you need to do the thing that'll win, you know? Like you want to be like well, they you know Hillary didn't make it and it's like who know I'm sure there are people going like we need to put a strong female candidate in as the as the candidate because that's gonna show It's gonna be a rebuff to to the to the Republicans and it's like yeah, or it's gonna like backfire in some way I'm by the way I'm all for if there's a if there is a if there is a perfect I don't care what they are I don don't care who, what their gender is.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Is the difference between Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris is, is, is, but I think you've also got enough hill battle there. Of course you do. I think even a pill battle no matter what you do, but I do think Elizabeth Warren is not the person to counter Trump. It's just not, or at least not now. It's not a good, like, picture. It's not a good, the way that she speaks is to a professorial and I think his whole thing of just like, like she's so heavy on facts and numbers, he's just gonna say like, ah! I gotta, I gotta tick it. I gotta win the opposite. I got a winning ticket for you, okay, man? Michelle Obama, Joe Biden. Any variation of them.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Can he be vice president again? I think he can. I think he can too. Michelle Obama president, president Michelle Obama and Joe Biden VP. Or you flip it. I'm fine with that too. No, I'd love it, but that'll never happen.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Why not? She won't run. Michelle Obama, her VP is Bernie Sanders. You got a stick and old white man in there. I guess. Just for a couple of the, whoever the people who are like, I don't see an old white man, I get very nervous. Well, old white men, and the crowd boys are now living real life street fighter, I guess. Not really. I mean, a plastic sword doesn't help you
Starting point is 00:17:37 very much. I'm, here's the thing, the crowd boys are a bunch of weird babies. They're just like a bunch of weird babies. Here's the thing about Gavin McGinnis. He wants it. This and Rips again. Okay. Gavin McGinnis got booted from Vice. I don't know what the reasons were.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I don't think he quit on his own accord. Maybe he quit and he was like, I'm out of here and I'm gonna be really special and hot. And then I think discovered that it's Vice makes a lot of money and Gavin McGinnis doesn't. Yeah, I think his whole thing is a fucking grift. I think his whole thing is a fucking grift. I think, you know, he lives in the suburbs.
Starting point is 00:18:13 And he, I don't know, maybe his wife paid for this house, which is weird, because he's such a kick ass showviness. But I met, I once had a drink with Gavin McGinnis. We were connected through some, a friend. Oh, God. This is a few years ago. They're like, Gavin's really interesting. You should meet him and talk to him.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I was like, yeah, I don't think so, but I'll humor you and have a drink. We had a drink and he told me that he bet me $1,000 that if I read an Ann culture book, that I would change my opinion on immigration. I was like, you guys would pay me $1,000 to read an angle, sir, for a couple of pages. How much do you have to be free to be like,
Starting point is 00:18:50 wow, and culture, that slim 60-peed heat street. Yeah, I don't want to give him too much credit, but I think he's full of shit. I mean, that's my impression. My impression during the conversation that I have with him, the hour that we spent talking, is that just like Milo, I think that Milo is also a grifter and full of shit.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I think it's a dual track grift. I think it's a grift on Republicans and alt-right people who think that he's for real. You can make money off of that. No, I think she's actually, actually just pretty dumb. I think it's a dual grift. It's your grifting on the Republicans. In the same way that, in many ways, that Trump is a grift, and he really is.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And then it's like you're also grifting, you're like trolling all of the, you're owning the libs and antifa. Like you're also like that's a grift, you know? Like Gavin McGinnis is a fucking distraction. He wants to get paid on his YouTube channel. That's what Gavin McGinnis is a fucking distraction. He wants to get paid on his YouTube channel. That's what Gavin McGinnis does, you know? I'm not...
Starting point is 00:19:50 Alex Jones, which is so crazy to me that we're already on 2.0. No, I mean, Alex Jones actually I was just having a conversation about this with somebody last night, a friend of mine. And I was saying, he's a kid, it's like Alex Jones. I'm like, well, no, I don't think Gavin McGinnis is sincere.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I think that he's full of shit. I think he's, maybe he's racist and sexist. I'm sure that's true, transphobic, whatever. You know, like a, like a, to a normal, not normal, but you know what I mean? Like to an, to an average degree. Yeah. But like, he's doing an act.
Starting point is 00:20:21 His act is like, he's really this shock jock fucking character, right? My understanding is Gavin McGinnis wanted to be an actor and a comedian and that didn't pan out. Dean cooked it and happened to Gavin McGinnis. So, Gavin McGinnis is gonna happen. I mean, you can see it, but it makes sense. Milo wanted to be like a tech blogger or something or a poet before that and that shit didn't work out. And he got frustrated and desperate. And so he he created, he created he realized Oh, like if you say a really offensive things like people will pay attention to you. Yeah, it was a bit for attention Where they think else yeah, it is no I mean, he's there attention horse. I mean, they're starving for attention
Starting point is 00:20:55 He just wanted a death love You know, I could be I could be I could be who knows I could be wrong maybe maybe he's actually a the turd That he seems I'm saying he is a turd. I mean, he's a different kind of turd. I think that's the point, but... I mean, he is a piece of shit. He's just a different kind of piece of shit than I think that everybody is. He's like, you know, this alt-right provocateur.
Starting point is 00:21:16 It's like, yeah, I guess, but also, isn't he just a fucking failed, like, vice guy who is trying to get paid? Yeah. You know, he doesn't have any ideas. What are his ideas? What are his opinions of like his opinions? But what are his actual ideas? It's like he's saying anything of substance.
Starting point is 00:21:34 He's just like racism, racism, racism, racism. Pretty anyhow. Well, the assholes, grifting, the geo is planning to cut Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security to cover their tax cut for billionaires. It's good. We live in a good place with good people running it.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I feel like I feel really sorry for the Americans who think that. I'm not sorry for them. Well, I do in a way. They've been lied to by a group of people who are much better at lying than they should be. And yeah, I mean, we're living in this like complete alternate reality situation where like, there's a bunch of people in America who are like,
Starting point is 00:22:17 I voted for Trump because he's like, gonna bring jobs back to America and he's gonna like, you know, fix my healthcare problems and he's gonna, you know, like all the shit that's like fantasy and they're actually doing the opposite. What was the story I saw? Is it Ford cutting jobs? I'm just looking this up.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah. Ford is cutting jobs and workforce reorganization. I think this is related to the tariffs. You know, it's like tariffs that everybody, every economist endorsed those tariffs. Yeah. That it would be good. 70,000,
Starting point is 00:22:56 honestly, very free-prous and Detroit news. So workers were in foreign affairs. They come in and plays about 200,000 people around the world in Cleanson, 70,000 salaried workers. Yeah, I mean, whatever, the long and short of it is like all the stuff that is supposed to be happening, the opposite is happening, all the stuff that was said that was going to be happening.
Starting point is 00:23:17 There's a Ford ad on the CNN article, which is really rich. It's like Ford to cut jobs, like check out the new Ford Adgestee. Mitch McConnell said recently, they were like, well, the Tea Party was really all about the deficit and cutting government spending and like, getting everything back in balance. What, where do you feel like that energy is now?
Starting point is 00:23:36 And he said something like, I really feel like that party isn't, that that can, I really feel like the Tea Party, that whole constituency is less focused on the deficit or are spending in his much more focused on how well the stock market is doing now it was like all that ragtag group of middle americans that was a structure together they really
Starting point is 00:23:55 they're really invested in billionaires making more money yeah i mean i mean it's right that's right wall street doing really well in actual human beings are doing poorly in by the way this is we have to talk about the conners i hope you watched it. I really hope you watched the Connors. Oh my God, oh my God, but it's related to this. I mean, so first off, you know the Connors, I watched the first episode of the Roseanne reboot.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yeah. And I think both of us were very angry because it was garbage. I have to say the Conners is a better show. It's still bad, really bad. I mean, they kill off Roseanne. She has an O.D.'s on opioids. And then they go into this whole thing about like,
Starting point is 00:24:37 you know, it's the economy is so bad. People are sharing drugs and, you know, it's like, they kind of like, I mean, they kind of weirdly ponded off on like, people being poor. Instead of what is actually the case, which is like, there was a concerted effort amongst pharma companies and doctors to like, basically get people addicted to opioids. Yeah. You know, like, there are people who have been pushing opioid use.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And so, yeah, it's just interesting. But do you know, there's a character, there's a kid on the show, I think the character's name is Mark, who is like non-binary, I guess. He's young. He's like nine or 10. Are you familiar with this plot line at all? I thought that's first few episodes, so. So yeah, I didn't, I only watched the first episode,
Starting point is 00:25:33 I kind of don't remember much about this, but there's a, there's a, actually a really interesting exchange, I have to, again, I have to give the Conner a little bit of credit, okay? And maybe this is just John Goodman for Gizzy's a really good actor, but they have some conversation on this episode of The Conners, which is like season one episode one, I was like, wait, that doesn't make any sense. I was like, oh wait, no, it's a new show.
Starting point is 00:25:54 No, it's not going to make any sense. But Mark is talking about what boy he wants to sit next to on the bus, because it would it will indicate that he likes one of them. And you know, Dan, the old dad, you know, Rizanz, husband is like, oh, I'm an old man. I you know, Dan, the old dad, you know, Resan's husband is like, oh, I'm an old man, I gotta go out to the shed or something like that. You know, he's like, I don't wanna hear about this stuff. But then he's like, did you, he's like, the kid is like, did you ever like a boy?
Starting point is 00:26:17 And there's this really interesting pause that John Goodman does. That's like definitely a, definitely is supposed to emote like a hesitation. It's a hesitation. And then he's like, no, I didn't or whatever. He's like, I was wondering when you were gonna talk to me about this, it's like kind of an interesting scene
Starting point is 00:26:37 where I feel like they're kind of intimating that as a younger man perhaps, Dan Conner might have felt some feelings. that as a younger man, perhaps, Dan Conner, might have felt some feelings. Oh yeah? Some gay feelings. Yeah, and I was like, this is an interesting choice. Yeah, that's a new. I want you to watch this fucking episode
Starting point is 00:26:58 and you give me your read on it. Yeah, well, you have to. I can't believe you didn't watch it. I was like, I gotta watch it. I was like, I don't want it, but it's like a train wreck, you know, it actually honestly, I think the show's improved with no Rosanne because Rosanne is just sucking up all the air with her race as bullshit, you know? Yeah. Not just a bunch of really competent actors with pretty bad scripts. I feel like it's a version of the reboot that I could get into now, but I don't. It's definitely
Starting point is 00:27:21 like ripped from the headlines. They're like everything is ripped from the headlines. It's like, they're really poor and they're sharing opioids and they can't make ends meet and they're having health insurance stuff. And there's all, I mean, just like, everything is like, you know, it's very like, you could feel it's like wants to be a show that's like mod or whatever. You know, it wants to be like,
Starting point is 00:27:40 want to be off the family. Yeah, wants to be on the family is this like hot button moment where it addresses the stuff that, but it's like, why are you making a fucking sitcom then? Like, and all with, with all due respect, you wanna tackle the issues of the moment? Maybe don't make it a sitcom.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Cause sitcoms traditionally are not really that great at dealing with the moment. Although you need the moment. Or on like, or the weed that I felt when it first came back and then the way that I felt when Will and Grace first came back Which also went topical and it's first episode and then pulled back from that is you need to focus on the characters and if the If it makes sense for that character to experience something that's from the headline dish fine
Starting point is 00:28:16 But those shows aren't like the good way for they're at their best when they're discussing like current events They're at their best when the character's relationships are doing stuff that is funny. And if it's, if you have a commentary or a very special episode, great, but the episode needs to function on its own other than that. And what I was seeing in Rosanne was that it was just a lot of like, I'm wearing my pussy hat. And it's like, no, this bitch is it. Our pussy hat. What are you going to go to the front? And you're like, what are you doing? It was very much like a, like a kind of like a granola mixture of whatever, you know, seen, oh, there's like the kids, like maybe he's non-binary and then, or you know,
Starting point is 00:28:52 he's gay, but he's maybe he doesn't know. And then there's like, yeah, the pussy hat thing and you know, then there's like some, there's a mixed race couple, you know, they got a little bit of everything. Yeah. You know, like a little smattering of all the things that feel like they should be topics. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:09 It's like, that's not really a show. That's like a notion. Yeah. A bad notion at that, you know? Well, did you, Chris Bell had some like very mild commentary being like, you know, when I read my kids fairy tales, I like to illustrate the parts of the stories where the themes are, you know, a little more modern. I don't like talking about how, like, I don't like telling my kids the story of like, how a prince had to kiss a sleeping woman to wake her up and save her like, I, that just has
Starting point is 00:29:39 weird consent issues. So we try to focus on stories that don't have those themes or adapt them or try to like highlight the ones that I want messages I want my kids to get. And then she talked about how she recycles books and she tries to, if she finds good kids books and her kids age out of them, she tries to donate them to get in like a local program so that other kids can have access to this book forever. Like it was just like mom stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:01 She is herself a Disney princess from Frozen. Oh. stuff. She is herself a Disney princess from Frozen. We were up on the right-wing Twitter where they were like, this liberal wants to change fairytales to make them PC. This is who Disney hired. They just turned it into this whole thing. It was the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Well, let me tell you something. This is like, I mean, that rape is bad and recycling books. And they were like, fuck that message. Yeah, well, I mean, that's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I will say though, on this topic, I mean, not surprised their reaction is that, I mean, the right wing is always like, it should be like, it was before. And if anything changes, we're gonna have a completely outsized reaction to it. I mean, those fudges of like stupid, they always have the same stupid reaction. It's as if they can be men's rights activists and also hate mayonnaise.
Starting point is 00:30:51 It's like, do you want equality or not? I don't know. No, they don't want that. There's not that. That's not the act. That's not the activation in the activism that they're looking for. Like, but okay, here's the thing. I am, I have a daughter and we are reading her lots of books.
Starting point is 00:31:07 We read lots of books. And she, you know, partially because of like friends at school and partially just because of societal things, you know, she gravitates toward stuff that like, I gotta tell you, it's pretty fucked up. Like, like she started, she got, she went to the library with Laura and Laura's like, you can pick out a book to read or whatever. She picked out this book about this girl.
Starting point is 00:31:29 They're called Kylie Jean books. You know who Kylie Jean is? No idea. You probably don't. She's like, you know, it's like a kid's book. Kylie Jean's like from the South. She's like, lives in Texas, I guess. And she's like, you know, shit's fucking, it's real bad. It's like, mom is in the kitchen making food and, you know, TJ, her brother, she wants him to be in a ballet, but he's like, he's a boy, he doesn't, that boys don't do ballet.
Starting point is 00:31:53 You know, it's a shit like that. Yeah. Is that how the fucking love some, right? She's very, because she's like doing ballet and gymnastics and all the books are about things like that. And like, but also like, there's all this just super fucking. I mean, forget about the fairy tales. The fairy tales are like,
Starting point is 00:32:08 child's play by comparison, modern books are completely fucked up. Like modern kids books, have some of the, they also do this thing with the introduce, they have some of the worst ideas, but they also introduce bad ideas. Like the baronstein, baronstein bears books. Sorry, really quickly,
Starting point is 00:32:23 they have a book that's like, it's about a sleepover. And they're like, let's stay up all night and go to the kitchen and make crazy food and destroy the bathroom. And it's like, nobody would ever think of this. Like, you're giving Zelda an idea. Well, that was what I was gonna say.
Starting point is 00:32:36 It's similar to like, dare programs that they would bring in drugs and show us how they're done and where you could buy them and what they're worth. Yeah. You're making an assumption that I already have this information, or even with gender stuff, you're making an assumption that I assume that boys don't want to do ballet, but a child has no assumptions like that.
Starting point is 00:32:51 So when you jump to that even to refute it, what you're saying, it would be like, I told you, you know, Josh, I can look past your horrifying elbows. I actually like you as a person. It's like, wait, I never even thought. That's so rude. That's so rude. You're already telling me like that you've above past the notion that I didn't have. No, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:13 It's crazy. I'm with Kristen Bell on this. I have to say, I wish, like I will say this. Like I was the other day we were reading here one of these Kylie Jean books. I'm like we have to counter, we got to need to counterbalance on this fucking thing. The book is so, it's not like, it's not like bad, bad.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I mean, it's fine. It's a story about a girl who wants to be a ballerina or whatever, comes from a weird, there's little things, there's little things. And the little things are really, you know, it's insidious. And the whole, just the whole world is geared towards, I mean, it's not just one book, it's not just one thing, it's like the her friends at school.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Like it's really hard to get little girls to not feel the way society wants them to feel or the way society has always made them feel, which is like subjugated and second class and like, you know, submissive to the whims of men. And it's like, it's not like over in anything, it's just in everything. I mean, the difference between a kid Moana versus your Southern Cinderella, just the basic assumptions of like, can't save themself, can't, like, need, uh, has no agency, um, have basically no personality in Cinderella. And then you look
Starting point is 00:34:22 at Moana and it's like night and day. It's like even so that kids those classics you're you're delivering in cityist like messages that I just feel like for me with my kids. I would be thrilled if they got into those movies when they were a little bit older and they were like, I'm into the history of animation. Okay, great in the context with some understanding, but I'm not going to show my kids song of the South. Like I don't think that. Yeah, I mean, I think that, well, you know, on the flip side, of course,
Starting point is 00:34:49 is like, you know, look Laura grew up with that shit in her, I mean, worse, you know, I mean, grew up in the 80s, you know. And, and you know, certainly grew up to be a strong woman who has a sense of herself and, you know, it's like, but you never get over. Doesn't do, I mean, doesn't do girly shit, you know, or whatever, but like, grow past it.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I have worked so hard in my life to minimize my own internalized homophobia, and I feel like every single day, I have to think about how I'm thinking about things and perceiving people because racism and sexism and xenophobia and transphobia are homophobic. All that stuff is so ingrained in you that you spend a lot of time working on it.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Some people aren't gonna to do that work. And how much better would it be if I had not internalized those to begin with? Like I wouldn't have had to spend a decade learning that I was internalized homophobia that I myself was a homophobic. Like there's a lot of stuff that just like... Yeah, no it's true. It's also that whole childhood portion of it, which is like when she's like a teen or when she's like 10 or whatever, you know, could we it, which is like when she's like a teen, or when she's like 10, or whatever,
Starting point is 00:35:46 you know, could we improve the way she feels when she's 10 years old if we don't? But so anyhow, like the thing is like, where do you, it's like, I don't know where the right, I don't know where the line should be drawn. Like we watched this like Tinkerbell movie the other day because she saw, I don't know how, she's like saw Tinkerbell and was like,
Starting point is 00:36:03 oh, I wanna check this out. And you know, it was like, I don't know, T she's like, saw Tinkerbell and was like, oh, I wanna check this out. And it was like, I don't know, Tinkerbell was like, not the Tinkerbell from Peter Pan. She was like, kind of like a maker. I mean, honestly, like the whole thing is about how she made inventions from like different parts of weird like old stuff. Like it was actually kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And they're like, you're tinkering. It's like, oh, okay, that's the name origin or whatever. But which is fine. Like she watches Doc McStuffins, which is a show about a kid who's a doctor, and is like running the show. And I think that's very positive reinforcement, but like, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Then the other thing is like, you can't help, but kids can't help but be interested in what they're interested in. And it's very tough. I did a lot of the stuff I watched was extremely experimental edgy animation that Nickelodeon Comedy Central MTV like that they were doing at the time.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So we, I like Doug, no. No, like, Ren and Stimpy, Rocco's mind on life. Like, oh yeah, Ren and Stimpy, that's very adult stuff. Very adult. They're a lot of stuff that I don't know how it ended up affecting me and that's probably a top. Oh yeah, no, that should definitely fuck you up. That guy also was like a, that guy was like a pedophile.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah. The Ren and Stimpy guy was, you know, the guy who did all the, I was about to say, but when my brother, who's 10 years younger than me, my youngest brother was growing up and I was still in high school and I watched him watch stuff. He would watch those little sitcoms
Starting point is 00:37:29 that Dan Schneiderman and other pedophile. Yes. Yes. And the tone of those sitcoms and what the behavior that it modeled was that kids are really quippy and snarky and they don't like anything and they're better than you and they've always got a report.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And they've all, it just made like the sassy, like, I guess like. Oh, you mean all modern sitcoms or like that? They're like, everybody on them was just like a mean girl. And, yeah, no, the most annoying, this the most annoying modern trope, which is like, all people who are friends hate each other and all they're doing all the time
Starting point is 00:37:59 is talking shit on one another and attacking each other. They're all like, hey, I Carly, you look pretty stupid right now, you ugly bitch. And you're just like, no, I mean, literally, have you ever watched the Big Bang theory? It's like, they all fucking hate each other. Oh yeah. I mean, Will and Grace is just to show about how gay people model behavior that is really toxic and they're all really mean to each other. And it is true in real life. But when my brother would watch that stuff, I could tell it would impact his behavior after he watched it.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Like he would always have like a sassy remark, even if it didn't make any sense, because he wasn't old enough to really be sassy. Like it would, like, model that behavior. And so for my kids, or as we like, go forward, I don't mind analyzing that stuff that we show, or it doesn't, with the north of screens and the weird shit that's on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:38:40 I think like Kristen Bell's kind of bang on, and it was just perfecting a couple of the right wing as an entire movement just so reactionary, not even understanding that she's talking about like family values, which is supposed to be their thing. Like it's well, no, but if it's a family value, if it's family values with an eye to, um, you know, empowering women in any way, they're not interested. I mean, the GOP hates, hates women. There's never been a party, a political party. I mean, maybe certainly not. I mean, they are the party of hatred.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And their hatred is especially focused on women. They are, I've never seen a group of men more terrified of what happens when women get power than the GOP. And every woman in the GOP is a fucking traitor and every man is a monster. And you really can't tell me otherwise this product. So it's unsurprising that they would be scandalized by the idea that you'd want to change or avoid a fucking story about where the prince takes what he wants from the princess and then marries her.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Well, by my new children's book, A Party of Monsters, all about a child's introduction to the GOP. I think that sounds really good and I would read that and I think we should go get that published as ASAP. All right, what else is going on? Pete Davidson and Ariana Grande, Bruce. Oh, this is huge, okay. This is the biggest.
Starting point is 00:40:04 This is such a non-story. I'm sorry, who fucking fought for one second that these dumbasses were going to stay together? I mean, it's so, and now here's my concern. I feel bad. Here's my, he's been through it. Now here's my big concern of, and I feel the same way, but I feel like there's gonna be a bad,
Starting point is 00:40:21 so I'm always worried about Pete Davidson. You don't know? I feel like there's gonna be a bad. So I'm always worried about Pete Davidson. Donut. No, I'm worried about him as a person who's, watching a person who's sober, who's been so vocal about it, who clearly has, is a troubled dude. Yeah. I'm constantly concerned that he's gonna get, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:43 slide back. And now I've got this whole narrative in my head that I think is just so terrible, but I'm like terrified of it occurring, which is like Pete Davidson starts doing drugs again. Pete Davidson ODs. This is a thought that went through my mind when I heard they were breaking it up.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And then immediately Ariana Grande becomes like, her whole thing becomes this like, kiss of death, like narrative. Oh, yeah, I know, right? But that could happen, man. Crown Duluth. What? But that was Taylor Swift's Crown Duluth.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Well, Taylor Swift needs to actually be a human to have to, you know, you know what I mean? Like, what is, who is, nobody dies after dating Taylor Swift? Maybe when Apple releases an update to Taylor Swift, she'll be more like that. Oh my god. Listen, please stop. She's talking the greatest female artist of our time. Um, so also I want red dead redemption too.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Um, did you know how you playing it? It's not out yet. I don't think. That's not okay. I don't know man. I don't think. It's not, okay, I don't know, man. I don't think I'm gonna touch it. I'm gonna try to keep my install to your console. And it was the result of like really abusive. I mean, it's what's known in the video game industry is crunch, but apparently the whole situation
Starting point is 00:41:56 was really dark this time. And there's been a lot of discussion about like workers' rights and like the unionization of the game developers because it was so bad this time around and I mean people working 24 hour days is not the camp building. We wrote a great we wrote a great story about this called the universe will be outsourced about how all these games are outsourced now to these like teams that do kind of grueling work. I mean sure it's also the non outsourced components. Here's the thing Red Dead Redemption that I want to know though. It's like it does there,
Starting point is 00:42:28 is there a reveal at some point that it's a Westworld type of scenario? Because what I'd like to see is, does Red Dead Red, what I'd love to see is, take place on the moon. Well, like, yeah, does it? Because we'd be fucking amazing if you play like, you play like 200 hours of Red Dead Redemption and then it's like, it like some fucking thing rises up out of the middle of the fucking desert that you're in and it's like you're in the future. I mean, it would blow people's fucking minds.
Starting point is 00:42:54 I mean, I guess we're playing the intro to the game. Yeah, right, no, it's like stay tuned for season two where it'll be bad. But no, I guess they can't do that because of Westworld though. I guess they would get sued. Yeah. I'm not a bimer. I'm sure I've never gotten into it. I'm not a Western. Nobody ever does anything like people so rarely do things that are really like that are just like, you know, that would be so weird and unexpected. Like Irva Dinosaur showed up, you know. Well, so much money goes into these productions now that it, they have to be safe to a certain
Starting point is 00:43:29 extent. Like, it's the reason Marvel movies are artistically a little bland because they have to be crowd pleasers if they're not like, I sunk two billion dollars into this. Have you, this is actually a good segue because I want to talk about the Joker movie, but on the red day redemption thing, I like how you're talking about like workers rights and stuff. And I'm like, when did it be cool if it was like Westworld? Like we're so far apart. If it was right. I was like, when did it be cool if it was Westworld?
Starting point is 00:43:52 And you're like, we gotta fight, you know, these workers need a unionized. We're just so far apart on our thought process around Red Dead Redemption. It's very sad. Can we talk about the Joker movie? Sure. Have we talked about this yet?
Starting point is 00:44:04 No. Okay. So first off, they're making a movie called Joker that's produced by Martin Scorsese and starring Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker. And I guess it's his origin story or a version of an origin story for the Joker. They're continuing to make
Starting point is 00:44:24 suicide squad movies and I believe continuing to use Jared Leto as the Joker also in the DC universe. And I was just thinking the other... What? This is like a one-shot movie, yeah. But like in what what is the context? Because it's like just like, oh like we have a character you know him from this other. I mean I was just thinking about how fucking bad DC is at this. And it's like how crazy is it that like Marvel has had this continuous universe that seems totally organic from movie one?
Starting point is 00:44:56 Like, I know they had some missteps, okay? I know there've been some missteps. There was an interest, but generally, by Vox just about the Marvel universe and how it is built for corporate convenience as opposed to the stories that they wanted to tell, which yes, it is a seamless universe, and it's sealed into its own little bubble. But it is also like, it makes for worse movies in an interesting way.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And I can't- Well, most of the movies are bad. Don't get me wrong, but at least they're consistent. But DC should be the opposite. DC should just be doing tons of weird little projects and letting people really do their vision of this and their version of whatever. And the idea that they were going to make their second Marvel universe was always silly and lazy to me and not really the appeal of this character.
Starting point is 00:45:37 The appeal of it for me was, I don't think anybody is like, I love the Justice League so much, I would love to see 18 movies. Like, no, nobody loves the Justice League so much. I would love to see 18 movies. Like, no, nobody loves the Justice League that much. They're very boring at this point in our cultural history. Well, I just, but like, I just like so, the whole thing is so. I'm really experimental, cool stuff like into the spider verse,
Starting point is 00:45:55 but with all the DC characters. Yeah, into the spider verse is gonna be the best of all these movies. That's how I feel. It looks amazing. It looks fucking amazing. But I think that, um, yeah, I just think it's like, I just boggled my mind.
Starting point is 00:46:07 So now they've got like, they're doing a new suicide squad, which we talked to him about last week. He's gonna be the Guardians of the Galaxy Dude is gonna do it, which is interesting. It just boggled my mind. But I get, because I like, I kind of like read a few articles about the Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie, I get all these at Google News alerts now
Starting point is 00:46:23 that are like, you know, pictures of him like running away from police. And it's like pictures of him on the street. There's so much footage of him just like doing the movie is really weird. And all the, I've never, you read this news story, all those ex-hills were trapped in the subway
Starting point is 00:46:37 and they ended up having to like go in between the cars to pee and whatever because the director was trying to put into them like looking super harried. And I was like, oh, yeah, I mean, that sounds bad, you know, but on the other hand, you get to work with a great artist like Joaquin Phoenix. So, isn't it worth it? Yeah, in the end, isn't it? I'd feel a little bit. So, Hon, what were we just talking about that we were going to talk about? I mean, use us something? No, okay, because of Red Dead. Oh, yeah, no, completely random. Can we talk about this? What's going on in the
Starting point is 00:47:08 government right now? With the dead Saudi, the Kish, the Kishoggi situation? Yeah, Jamal Kishoggi. Yeah, I just, I'm sure everybody's paying attention to this, but I just want to like, we live in such insane times. I mean, there's this journalist who was killed by the Saudi government in their consulate in Turkey. Unless I've got those facts wrong. And the president of the United States, instead of like, it's very clear to everybody in the world that the Saudi government is responsible for his death. The Saudi government is awful, very bad, they're very bad. Was that remembered 9-11?
Starting point is 00:47:58 I mean, that's just the tip of the iceberg, man. But they also have a ton of money. And the Saudi Arabia has a ton of money. And literally the president of the United States is like, this guy first off, But they also have a ton of money and the Saudi Arabia has a ton of money and literally the president of the United States is like, this guy first off, the first time I heard him talk about it, he was like trying to like wiggle out of him being, he's a permanent resident of the US, the journalist. He was like, is he a, he's not a citizen, right?
Starting point is 00:48:21 He was like trying to wiggle out of, like basically trying to find a way to say it doesn't matter what happened to him because he's not a real American or whatever. You know, which is just one part of a larger problem, but like he was a tourist. Like, yeah. But the fucking president of the United States is like, he's like, yeah, I believe what the Saudis are telling me. He's like, we don't want to give up this. They want to buy 110 billion dollars worth of military stuff
Starting point is 00:48:49 from us. So we don't want to miss out on that money. It's like, dude, I mean, it's such a great combination of things, but it's ultimately what it is. It's like Trump is such a cock. I don't know another word for it. He's cocked so hard by these other people. He's like cocked by Putin.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Cocked by... Maybe it's, I mean, what's that? Cocked by Kim Jong-il. It's like, yeah, no, the thing was with North Korea. It's like he made this big deal at the state of the union about auto-warmbar, the kid who was killed or guy who was killed in North Koreans, brutally murdered or whatever,
Starting point is 00:49:25 or beaten. And then he's like, oh yeah, no, this guy's cool. I like, I mean, he elevates this fucking guy, this despot, this fucking dictator, to the level of the president, you know, essentially, which he's now degraded, obviously. But he's like so on the Saudis dick, for lack of a better way to describe it,
Starting point is 00:49:46 so into them that like he won't even be like, oh, no, we should have standards. Like you shouldn't murder people who live in America and are journalists. It just, you know, if Obama is still president, I couldn't imagine that he wouldn't be able to be like, well, we have this deal with them and that is a completely separate issue because it's not like they're going
Starting point is 00:50:06 to go elsewhere. Like the deal is done. Not even bring that up. But then in the front of his mind, be like, we need some situate. We need to deal with this situation in a productive way that addresses that this is a human rights abuse that we won't stand for this. That like, you know what I mean? like there's a way to deal with this But you throw any money in front and it's like this must be how his business was run where it was just like yeah I Mean it's just it's just crazy to me that we live the time that we live in it just feels like there is no I mean truly America has lost its way. It's so lost. I mean, I know that America's never been a perfectly great place
Starting point is 00:50:44 But there have been real moments of brilliance You can't deny that. Okay, America's like I felt like pretty forward from a bad place with good intention marching forward And now it feels like we are backlighting. I mean, you could be like you could be like look the America sucks in America has always sucked But I don't believe that. I don't feel that way. I don't I don't think that's true. I think America has I don't believe that. I don't feel that way. I don't think that's true. I think America has done a lot of things wrong, but it's also had some pretty amazing moments of doing a lot of things right.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And I think that the Obama thing about a more perfect union is the perfect way to, you know, the concept of an improving situation, not a fixed and done situation. But like, it's just we've been dragged so down into the fucking, into the shit down. Like, we're so up to our fucking eyeballs in it. I just don't know how we ever come back from it. I don't know how America ever seems like America again,
Starting point is 00:51:39 the way that the America that I grew up with, which was just imperfect and fucked up in a million different ways. The 80s and 90s had a ton of problems, but it felt like we were moving in the right direction generally. Now, it's just like, I don't know what's happening. I just think it's interesting to watch him to watch the president of the United States basically be like, all the intelligence agencies, like, yes, we're in the Saudi government.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And he's like, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, you know, maybe, maybe not. They said there is a rogue killer. There could have been a rogue killer that showed up. Anyhow, it's insane. Now he's, now he, now there's a headline on the New York Times. It's like he admits that he's dead. He believes it based on the intelligence.
Starting point is 00:52:21 It's like, oh, cool. I'm glad you've, like, welcome to the, you know, welcome to, what, what everybody was talking about a week ago. Yeah. Anyhow, sorry, this is a very downer, very downer moment. We should not, I don't wanna end this on a down moment.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Which is why we have our nice things segment. I've been very ill. I just have to stress this, okay? I'm a very run down sick man. I've been brutalized by whatever this illness is. Because why we don't have a guest? Which is why we don't have a guest and we're doing this remotely because I'm hooked up to several machines right now that are keeping me alive. It's called the internet.
Starting point is 00:53:01 And the star is born soundtrack. And the stars born soundtrack. Well, my thing for the week, I have three nice things. Number one is I have been so down and like really going through it for a while. And like I have been handling it fine and like, you know, I've got to look on the upside, you know, probably since for a long time, like I've just been going through periods of just like really going through the muck um your 20s are not a fun time in your life uh when you uh for some people and it wasn't for me and I recently went back on anti depressants which I haven't taken since high school and god it is like night
Starting point is 00:53:39 and day I obviously need to be on anti-depressants and anybody out there who is depressed or whatever like therapy is super helpful definitely do it. I have gained so much in my life from therapy but it I Weirdly was not taking any medications because I for some reason just wasn't I just didn't feel like I needed to and Having gotten back on it. It's like it's like I was a diabetic and I started taking my insulin again Like I'm just a completely different person. I don't like functional. So one of my nice things that I'm back on into to presence and that you, if you need them, just go get them. Just go get them. If you can afford them, if you have health insurance, just go do it. Like,
Starting point is 00:54:14 it doesn't make you weaker whatever it should do it. Because it has transformed, I wake up not in pain emotionally every day and it's nice. So there's number one. I endorse that sentiment. Number two is I've been watching vintage makeup tutorials on YouTube. So these are like short educational films made in different decades. He's usually sponsored by a beauty company
Starting point is 00:54:40 or soap company or something. And they're so funny and weird. And the weird products that people would put on themselves because there just wasn't stuff available, like just using very harsh chemicals or like using Vaseline and their eyebrows and stuff. And sometimes the results look good and you're like, wow, like you really don't need to go out
Starting point is 00:54:59 and buy $3,000 worth of makeup to look good. But other times it's just weird. And it's always like a man who looks like a barber in his 40s who's like measuring a woman's face like from her nose to her forehead, then her nose to her mouth, then her mouth to her chin, and then being like the ideal proportion for a woman's face and like,
Starting point is 00:55:16 thriving all things that just feel wrong. Or it's an old-timey actress who's like, in order to look like this, I splash cold water on my cheekbones, which makes them so high. And you're like, no, it doesn't. You're a famous actress. You're just beautiful. Like, it's really weird and interesting. So if you have any interest, definitely look one up. You'll have a good time with it. And sometimes you can find makeup like gurus on YouTube following the, they'll follow the tutorial as it happens. And it's really funny to watch
Starting point is 00:55:45 a modern person use like old-timey like you know beeswax on your lips. It's really cold cream, a lot of cold cream. A lot of cold cream. Real thick viscous. There's a lot of like setting your hair for the week. Just like borax, you're just like what? No, don't put that on your face. Definitely watch. So there's the last thing just a plug Which is nice is that on Halloween? I'm doing a Storytelling show called queer horror stories and it's all gonna be themed around Sabrina both the new show and the 90 sitcom And we're gonna have a bunch of really funny comedians and writers that are LGBTQ from New York, come to a bar called Tilt in Brooklyn. It's at 8 p.m.
Starting point is 00:56:29 and if you listen to this show, you should come. It's gonna be really fun. I hosted, it's two hours, drinks are really cheap, it's heavily themed and I'll be dressed as the scariest Halloween villain of all time, Melissa John Hart. So come. Those are running.
Starting point is 00:56:41 That sounds high there, Taney. I don't understand, though. It's not about the new... So I do like a... Sabrina. A rough theme where I'm like, hey guys, and I'll be dressed in the theme and the music will be themed about something and it's going to be Sabrina this time in the past. It was like, that becomes her or the Adam's family.
Starting point is 00:57:00 And then individual comedians or storytellers come up and tell like a five to ten minute Horrible thing that happened to them that relates to their gender or sexual identity and it's funny They're really funny. The stories are usually not related to the thing But if you come dressed up as Whatever you're dressing as for Halloween or if you don't have a costume come dressed as Aunt Hilder and Zelda or something and it'll be really fun Hmm well in the words of Kanye West, I love it. Now, I've got to talk about my things. Let me tell you. Nice thing.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Let me tell you my things. Let me tell you my nice things. So first, you're familiar with the Marie Kondo book, the Life Changing. Yeah, what life changing? It's a spellter name and you freaked out. You misspelled it? I misspelled Marie Kondo's name in like a show notes ones.
Starting point is 00:57:50 And you were like, why don't you not know how to spell that? I freaked out. I don't know. That's how it's telling me. I hadn't read the book because I don't have time for that bullshit. But I have been throwing, since I've been at home a lot this week.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I've started throwing things out that are in my house that I don't need, like really insane things. Like, just, I don't know, there's something wrong with me. Like, I would take like receipts and I put them in a box and I put the box in a bag and I put the bag in another box and I put the box in a closet. And then like, I opened it and I'm like, what is this? It's like receipt from 2013,
Starting point is 00:58:27 like from a restaurant, like what are these doing here? What are they for? Like literally boxes and boxes of them. And yeah, throwing things out, I gotta tell you, do it. Throw things out, throw away things you don't need and donate things that you don't need that are not garbage. We filled a bunch of bags with donations
Starting point is 00:58:48 and just like clothes and like a toaster, if we had a second toaster, like what are we doing with a second toaster? We don't need it. There's people who need that shit. Anyhow, so I've been doing that a lot lately and that's been really good for me personally. And also it means that there's less stuff in the house so I can actually like, you know, live without feeling
Starting point is 00:59:11 like I'm losing my fucking mind. So that's been really, that's thing number one. Thing number two is, I, maybe I talked about this already. I've become like a Bojack Horseman fan. You talked about this at all. Do we talk about this last week? He talked about it a little bit. I talked about this at all. Do we talk about this last week? Talk about it a little bit. I didn't do, but I wasn't my thing that I like. It was it, my nice things. So listen, I'm gonna say, I have trouble, I mean, I used to love animated shows
Starting point is 00:59:36 but I've trouble getting into them now. I, my expectations for BoJack were very low, but also I watched an episode one time and was like, nah, it's not for me. But then I started watching it a little bit more and I have to say it's a, it's a, it's a strangely affecting and funny show. Great. That I recommend everybody watch because I think it's really,
Starting point is 00:59:59 um, I think it's really, I don't know. There's something about it. It's got a quality that I've never seen in an animated show. Anything that is hard to hear? Maybe. It's going to be high quality. That's how I knew that show would be amazing. Why?
Starting point is 01:00:15 Anything who's involved in? He meets the dares. Oh, yes. She's very good in it. She plays Princess Carolyn. Princess Carolyn. I mean, yeah. I mean, it's just, I also like, I guess for me, it's one of those things where I can just watch it over and over and over again, which I think
Starting point is 01:00:32 is very valuable. And then I don't know if I have a third thing. My third thing is, I've been, because I've been sick, I've been checked out out of looking at the internet, and that's felt pretty good. And I've been spending a lot of time with, you know, I've seen Zelda when she gets home from school, which is unusual, because I usually have not here. And that's been very good for me.
Starting point is 01:00:53 You can tell I'm very run down. Self, take care of yourself. That's my thing. My nice thing is, if you're sick, just be sick. One of the things I have not done in my life, that would matter. Everything for me is, if you're sick, be sick. If you want to take a nap, take a nap.
Starting point is 01:01:08 If you feel like you're blood sugar's dropping, but you're already calorie limit, just eat something. Just do it like, and this is something. Maybe this isn't even about like self-care, like the modern conception of it. I'm just saying this, you know, I for a long time, maybe for a decade, if I got sick, I would just like, it's like, I'm going to power through it or I'm going to ignore it or I'm, you know, I for a long time, maybe for a decade, if I got sick, I would just like, it's like, I'm gonna power through it
Starting point is 01:01:26 or I'm gonna ignore it or I'm, you know, I'm just like whatever because I have to work or I have to do something or whatever. And it's like, you know what, if you feel sick, if you feel run down, take care of yourself first, you know? Because you're not good to other people if you're, you know, if you're dead. Yeah, put your airplane mask on first.
Starting point is 01:01:49 I don't know what that means. Oh, I see. If you're on the airplane. Yeah, yeah. It's one of those things that RuPaul repeats a thousand times, like Lady Gaga's, if there are a hundred people in a room, statement. Where RuPaul says all the time, when the airplane mask is dropped and the plane's planes go into and you got to put yours on before you put on your kids. And it's true. Yeah. I mean, but then get your kids on really quickly. Because I mean, yeah, definitely get yours on real fast. They're very important. And yes, that's my thing. That's my nice thing is, is let yourself feel, let yourself feel sick and take care of yourself. And then you're going to feel a lot better. I still don't feel totally
Starting point is 01:02:21 better, but I'm getting there. I'm surely. Happy birthday Josh. Oh, yes, thank you, Ryan. It's a great time of year. It's the time of year that I celebrate my birthday. And Josh, at Josh, to both eat, happy birthday. Please tweet at me. That's where I like to get all. That's where all the best stuff happens to me,
Starting point is 01:02:41 who's on Twitter. All right, well, that's it. I think we're done here, Ryan. I think we've gone, we've talked about a lot of things, we've gone around the world. This edit's gonna be a nightmare for you. We'll be back next week with whatever stuff happens this week.
Starting point is 01:03:22 We'll be back next week with more tomorrow, and as always, I wish you and your family the very best, though I've just been informed that your family has taken a DNA test and they're not humans. you

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