Tomorrow - 141: Be Thankful (But Also Scared)

Episode Date: November 22, 2018

Happy Thanksgiving, Tomorrow listeners. For this holiday special, Josh and Ryan are listing things for which they are thankful, including but not limited to: SSRIs, the arctic, and manual focus lenses. We hope you enjoy a special time of food and family – and then stock up on supplies for our looming economic apocalypse. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to Tomorrow. I'm your host Josh Wittipolsky. Today on the podcast we discuss the Polarized Caps, Tinkering, and Mentors. I don't want to waste one minute. Let's get ready to do it. Well, this is it, Ryan. We're in the home stretch of 2018 and we're still alive. Happy Thanksgiving. Yeah, happy Thanksgiving to you. And to all of the tomorrow listeners, a Thanksgiving blessing is bestowed upon you

by myself, Josh Wattapolsky, and I assume Ryan Hula-Hand, I don't know if he is blessing you. I'm withholding this here. Even if you're not a US citizen, apparently thanks to giving it celebrated in many countries around the world.

I don't know anything about that. I'm a patriot, so I don't really think about other countries. But thanksgiving is a great important holiday here in America. It is of course, you know, is the, it is the holiday that celebrates the coming of Black Friday. And that's what I think is most exciting about it. And I'm excited because this Black Friday is going to be so epic. Do you know why?

Why? Well, this is the last Black Friday before the recession of the beginning of the Great Recession of 2019. And well, you know, who knows how long it'll last. I don't want to give it. I don't want to box it into a single year I think we can agree that the recession will go on for much longer than that. I was reading a really interesting article the other day That was like if you're a gamer if you're a PC person get your components now

Because in January the tariffs that Trump is going to do are that are going to enacted. The Trump has enacted on China will raise the prices of electronics by 25% for consumers. Talk about a cyber Monday. Yeah. So just think about that in the context of, now I don't know how I haven't gone into the details of how that applies to. But if that's a broad Chinese made, or Chinese imported goods tariff, people who shot a target and wallblock are gonna be really fucked up.

Like my target bill is going to look a lot different at the end of the month. So I think that's, I don't know, that sounds like a bad situation for us, you know, but we got a stick it to the Chinese one way or another. That's the way I see it. And, you know, the way we're stick it to them right now is... We need to light this house on fire with both of us in it.

That's my philosophy. I agree. I couldn't agree with you more. So yeah, you know, it's, it's, you know, it's gonna be sick. It's gonna be really sick. Well, that's why I would like for this episode. This is what I pitched.

This is what we're doing. We're just gonna name things we're thankful for in turns. We're gonna stay on the positive optimistic side of things. And I'm just saying, you know what I'm saying? We have a window here. We have a window before the new year. And there are things to be excited and thankful about, excited for and thankful about.

I will say, you know, we'll have to see. Maybe there won't be a recession, but literally every person I know is like, oh yeah. Oh no, there's absolutely gonna be a recession. Oh yeah, the recession that's coming is gonna be really, really bad. Oh, no, economic catastrophe, like collapse,

it's gonna be horrible. Yeah, I don't know, but it's also, you know, the Chinese are gonna be, you know, supposedly it'll, it's gonna hurt them as well. Oh, good. Well, then, then it's all worth it. All right, that's the thing. I think that's the, I think that's the important thing.

Your business insider has an article about it. Here's exactly how Trump's trade war with China could affect you. All right, I'm listening. A trade war between the US and China has been heating up. Yep, okay, good. Levin and Terrace on $250 billion of imported goods. Terrorists can increase the price of goods, really. Which can have serious economic effects.

Thank you. I didn't know that would be the case. If the price of goods goes up. Is this an Odyssey on mine article? No, this is business insider. Let's see, here we go. They're gonna tell me exactly how to do that. This is a real inside business to tell me about it. This is like, they're like tariffs

can affect the your pocket book. Like what? Look, several economists and business groups have warned that higher prices from tariffs can hurt American firms and consumers, okay? You don't say. Let's get to the goods. Where's the meat here, guys? Higher prices could hit consumers while it's the most recent set of tariffs against Chinese imports, which went into effect at the end of September target of around $200 billion of goods with a 10% tax schedule to increase to 25% on January 1st, 2019. This article sounds like no one's on the quarter

who got paid to do this. It sounds like one of those bots on Reddit that sums up an article. Yeah, there's a lot of comments that it just puts a bunch of facts for you. There's a, there's a, I mean, there's a lot of throw clearing here, but let's get to the meat.

Let's get to the turkey. No retailer will be able to simply absorb the cost of a 10% tariff, much less a 25% tariff in today's ultra competitive retail environment. That means consumers will pay higher prices, says, JC Petty Council David M. Spooner, in a letter to US trade representative Robert Lighthizer, or Lighthizer. Lighthizer doesn't matter. The point is, it's going to get fucked up out there in January.

So I have to say this, I'm not a person who's like, you know, be a, you know, crass consumer and go out and kill it on Black Friday, but I'm gonna fucking go ballistic this Black Friday. There's anything that I really feel like I want. I'm just gonna go into it. Yeah, my advice is definitely take out credit cards, rack up some debt.

And then then then then then then then then then then then grab that. Any credit cards that you can get on? Do not. Do not. No, I'm not. no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't even have a point that I can make. I just wanted to devolve it to non-sets. You really wanted to start this happy positive episode. Yes. We're going to do it on the darkest, blackest Friday night. Yeah, so black Friday is coming. Thanksgiving is tomorrow.

Well, today we're recording on Wednesday. We're going to stop this. We're going to stop Thanksgiving. On Thanksgiving, so tomorrow. Great. So you have something to listen to after you're done hearing your family's bullshit. And we're going to, it's going to be kind of a quick one. I know we're not gonna do an hour because

honestly, like, I'll just be very frank with the listener. I have to go move some furniture. We have 30 people coming to our house for Thanksgiving. Yeah. I already made this entire episode be late. And I think Laura's gonna be in my DMs. No, it's gonna be bad. She's gonna slide into DMs and it's not gonna be sexy. It's gonna be upset.id. So we want to talk about things that we're thankful for. Like, I'm thankful for the epic deals that we're going to see on this Black Friday. I like, I almost bought a new surface yesterday. I was like walking through the mall.

There's a Microsoft store in the mall here and in the mall that we frequent. They're opening those in places. I don't know. It's there. And honestly, like, there's also, they also redesigned the Apple store. And I'm like, oh, wow.

What malls by you? There's a mall called the Westchester mall, which is cool. I know the Westchester mall. It's a nice, well, it used to be a nice mall. I feel like it's going downhill, like all malls because malls are dead. All malls.

Yeah. But yeah, it's like, it's literally got a rock store in it now. I'm like, I literally have a surface tablet, like above the door that I'm looking out of this booth. That has never moved. So that's a testing. That's a tester unit.

Oh, okay. We did our testing. We're good. I have my surface. No, I'm the beta tester on the surface. I'm just like, there's a bug guys. It's doing this thing and I like a little Josh or this fucking surface again. Anyway, I almost they're having a black Friday deal and apparently.

Uh, they will give me money for my old surface, like 400 bucks or something. And the, and the new surface is like 300 bucks off. So it's basically free. The way I see it. Yeah. I was $800. But like, I definitely don't need it. It's like I bought a Galaxy Note 9.

Definitely did not need that. Like, but I, I mean, you just found your iPad pro and I know. Oh my god. Oh my god. So it's a fucking useless. I literally found it and I, I mean, did you just found your iPad Pro and gave us back? I know, oh my God. You know what? So it's so fucking useless. I literally found it and I think I've lost it again because I don't, I just like just put it aside and I'm like, what can I do with this?

I'm like, what can I do with this? No, but that black surface is pretty nice. So like, I definitely don't need it. Like, I will say I got 500 bucks back from my Galaxy Note 8. So it felt like the Galaxy Note 9 was like a fairly solid investment. Why am I doing this? Okay, let's talk about things we're thankful for Ryan go first. So you're thankful for deals. I'm thankful.

Yeah, okay sure. It's like I'm thankful for the exact opposite. I'm thankful for piracy. Wow. Because without piracy over the last, we're coming on three decades, but let's say, non-specific amount of years. I, without it, I would have never learned how to use all the software that I use every single day at my job. I would have never been able to take jobs for almost free, like to work for free, basically,

on a bunch of different projects, and that got me in the door to work at a TV show and to do all this stuff. And when I did have the money, did I go around and buy logic and final draft and a bunch of stuff? Yes, I absolutely did. But for those years that led up to career opportunities

that I are just now starting in my life, I would have no idea how any of this stuff worked. Also stuff like working in TV, if I wasn't able to pirate the greatest movies of all time that were unavailable on DVD at a reasonable price for me, I would never be as like, versed in TV and film and been able to keep up with like criticism. And I just wouldn't be the person that I am today. So I advocate for libraries, slash piracy, and I think we need to all relax when it comes

to, I think the FBI needs to relax with its VHS warnings. That's my policy. Wow. Okay. I mean, that's a good one. I didn't see that one coming. Yeah, I've got some fun ones on here. I legitimately did not see that coming.

So I'm thankful for, obviously my family. Yeah. In this time of extreme terror and mayhem, American carnage, you may describe it. I actually had my father-in-law's here, and he's a guy who literally does not give a shit about politics, he just doesn't care. He doesn't vote, he's completely disengaged

from the whole process. I was like, when's the last time you vote? He's like, I can't remember. We were talking about this. He never is. In the entire time, no, listen. In the entire time I've known him, we've never talked about politics. Okay?

He's an old man. He's not a young guy. And last night, he like started a conversation about politics. And he's like, I've never felt so fearful in like to be in America as I do now because of Trump. And like this is a guy who doesn't, he's not a Hillary fan, I mean, he definitely doesn't like Hillary.

You know, definitely is not like necessarily a partisan like dude. Yeah. And he's kind of like a kind of old school like American man. He's like, you're a real red dead kind of guy. Right, yeah, kind of a red dead redemption sort of character.

Kind of like, anyhow, but like, but no, what's interesting is I'm only going to bring this back around to family. But, you know, I think it's interesting that that Trump has now after, you know, you guys like, you know, almost seven years old or whatever, after it's so long. And finally, he's like thinking about politics and actually started a political conversation with us last night about, you night about the state of the Democrats and who's gonna run for in 2020. And it was interesting,

because we've never talked about it ever in the entire time I've known him, the whole time that I've dated and then been married to Laura and had Zelda and everything. And it's like, so that was interesting, but you know, look, I'm very, I think it's like especially at this time of year. I mean, families can be really fucking annoying

and God knows, we have, there are some annoying people in my family. Actually, they're all wonderful. But every one of those wonderful, and if they're listening to this, whoever's listening to this, you're especially wonderful. But that's for you and mom and dad.

But I love your parents. Yeah, they're great. They're wonderful. They're gonna be here on, they've decided to stay both at my brother's house and at my house and then back at my brother's house in the span of like five days. So it's gonna be a lot of fun.

I think we're gonna have a good time. I think it's gonna be a really calm, comfortable, chill situation, because they just love to go with the flow. That's one thing about them that you should know. Anyhow, but like, you know, look, Lauren's out at, you know, the only person I really hang out with is Laura. You know, I said this on our anniversary. We just had our 11th anniversary. And I was like, you know, I had this concept when we, I don't know how it came to me, but my thing was like,

I basically like, I never wanted, I probably talked about this in the podcast before, but I never wanted sleepovers to end. When I was a kid, I always just wanted to sleep over to keep going. And I feel like my relationship with Laura is the endless sleepover. Which is a pretty cool, it's pretty cool. It's like you're hanging out with your best friend all the time and it's a non-stop fucking slumber party. And Zeld is a fucking weirdo genius.

And so it's a pretty cool, it's pretty cool. It's nice on weekends, I don't really look at Twitter anymore you know like I don't look at the news I just hang out and I think that's great maybe I'm an old fucker you know that's possible but also maybe it's just like I think I have a new appreciation for for the things that are not outside of my little crew so anyhow that's mine that's one of my things.

As a sub thing I'm thankful for I'm also thankful for someone in your family who doesn't care about politics. I'm very thankful for pictures of Zelda. They're always delightful. She may be the most energetic child I've ever seen. She's always active. She's always breathing in a picture. She's, yeah, and she's learning how to pose and stuff now. I mean, she was doing, she did three performances of a hard knock life last night. And, and, you know, Annie 2014, which is the, the new one, which we don't, I don't love, but it's kind of, it's definitive Annie. I think it's going to be, no, no, no, she's, she is an original, she's an Annie 82 fan, which is the film version that has like a really, really cooked up version of hard knock life, which is super awesome. But anyhow,

but like, so now that she's in 20, she's into 2014 and she did three performances of Hard Knock Life and she has so many new moves. She also was like in the new version, they're like, they call themselves foster kids and she was like, was very perplexed by the difference between foster kids and orphans. And I was like, well, sometimes people take orphans in and then they're, they foster them. It's kind of hard to explain, but that's really sweet though. It's good. Yeah, she was, she wanted to do the whole thing. You know, you know, that she doesn't know this. We hit a deer. You know, we hit two deer with our car. I think, I took, did I tell the story? I think you touched on it. I've never told this story. I, I was in

Pennsylvania. We were driving and we two deer jumped a median right in front of my car. We were going like 70 miles an hour and we plowed into them. It was the most disturbing, terrifying thing that's ever happened me while in a car. And she doesn't know that. She just knows my car was wrecked. We were driving down the road and she saw one of those deer signs. She's like, what is the, why is there a deer sign here? And I was like, oh, that's like, so, you know, people pay attention and watch for deer, because sometimes deer cross the road and you don't want to bump into them with your car.

She's like, well, if we bump into a deer, I'd open the door and we could take it to the vet. Oh, wow. It's like, wow, that's really cool. She's in for a big disappointment when she was like, I'm so, I'm so, listen, I'm so not ready for her to discover how absolutely horrible the world is. I mean, she, you know, we still talk about Obama being president. Like, we can't, I'm so not ready for her to discover how absolutely horrible the world is.

I mean, we still talk about Obama being president. Like, we can't, I don't want her to know the Donald Trumps. By the way, at her school, I'm pretty sure they have not updated their like chart of presidents. I think they just stopped at Obama. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. My children will be like, what happened here? And I'll say, I don't know the signs got paint on it.

I have no idea. My hope is it's such a, it's a crazy distant memory by the time we, she's like, knows what is going on in the world. All right, go ahead. Sorry. The next thing I think before is on a similar note, the polar ice caps for hanging in there, buddy. Thanks for buying us some time. Wow.

That's, I didn't see. Love the work you do, storing up ancient diseases and preventing the looming apocalypse. Yeah, that's an, what made you think of that? Where did that come from? I was just thinking of the things that I regularly think about that keep me sane. And one of those is the polarized caps.

I think like we've got two big ice cubes in our drink and we really, we're running out of time, but at least those are there. It's so weird. I never think about the polar ice caps. Oh, I mean, late at night, all I think about is the polar ice caps and that all animals everywhere are happy.

And I can't sleep if I don't come to the conclusion that both of those are fine. I mean, honestly, that never crosses my mind, but I think that probably says a lot about me as a person. Yeah, that's a lot about me. I have unresolved issues with caregiving and control. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, okay, I'm gonna do my thing.

I'm gonna do my next thing, you ready? Next. I'm thankful for tinkering, for the act of being able to tinker. I've realized, I feel like this year, and again, maybe it's because of the politics. for tinkering for the act of being able to tinker. I realized, I feel like this year, and again, maybe it's because of the politics. I don't, you know what I realized? I like, I really like about phones. I think I just like setting them up.

I think I, I think I love setting stuff up. I love setting up a PC. I love plugging things in. Yes. I almost like, it's like weird. It's like, I almost like getting a game and like, and like setting it up and starting more than actually playing. Yeah.

I love the updates. I love the installs. I love getting ready. I do like, I do really do like, doing setup. It's funny because Zelda does this thing. She does, she calls setups. Like sometimes you'll come in her room and she's at range. All of her like animals in some weird way.

And she's like, look at my setup. But like, which is, I think, which is like, you know, like, but I do love, you know, one of the things I love to do is like, can I make this thing more perfect? Can I make it better? Can I like to make it? Can I be like, like, all the time,

and one of the things I like about, like, I'll open the surface and I'm like, I'm gonna change the color of the windows. Cause you could change the whole OS theme basically. I'm gonna make it pink. Let's see if that might be better. It's like little things really go a long way, you know? I'm having everything ready to roll.

I just love having everything installed and plugged in. And I'm like, in the minute that any action hits, I'm ready to hit the cave. I've never been for it. No, I'm like, I literally need like a Mac book air is like that's all I need. No, like I you know there's something I'm like there's something that's just so sad as fun. And I think this is one of my the thing is one of the things I love about mechanical keyboards and why I'm like literally in a room surrounded by them right now.

I in fact I just got a new one which is so fucking awesome. But but what I really like is like picking out the keycaps and changing them and kind of choosing the switches and saying, I've built them. That's the best building them is just so hard. But I don't really need more than one keyboard. And the reality is I don't need any keyboards because I am usually on my laptop or my phone which definitely is where the keyboard is not helping me but there is something that's the act of tank rain I think is extremely You know, I guess that is maybe tank rain is my hobby, but

But I think that it's like It is such a pure and meaningless enjoyment to like set something up or to like just dick around with like, you know, if like you fit, oh, you know what I'm doing. I was just so enjoyable. I changed a shower head last night, so enjoyable. I am fixing a, I can't wait to try to put it back on. One of our cabinet doors fell off in our kitchen and I've used this technique that I've read about where you jam like toothpicks and matchsticks into the holes and then you put like wood glue, you kind of crammed up with wood glue, and then that kind of creates like a new thing to screw into.

I'm like, oh, I can't wait to try to put that door back on. It's just dumb, weird little shit. I don't know. Something very liberating and de-freeing about it. That's my second thing to be thankful for. Good one. My next one that I'm thankful for is antidepressants. They are a modern marvel. They have changed the game at a visa VMI base mood, which for years and years and

years probably since I was like 12 has been a complete darkness, a complete resignation that the universe is ultimately chaos and that my place in it is to like keep everything together for as long as possible. Thanks to antidepressants, I wake up and think like, I'm going to have some coffee and see what happened on Cal Bear last night, which is just a new feeling for me. And I'm just happy they exist also. All the best people are on them. I don't know anybody who I like hanging out with who hasn't had some experience with antidepressants or

or has a personality that could be any benefit from them. So can I jump in here? Yeah, I've never taken any of that depressants and I don't, I am curious actually. I mean, I'm definitely, I have a very bad dark side. But I don't know if that's the same as being depressed. I certainly have had moments where I feel despondent, but for me, they pass very quickly.

I think if anything, I'm more like bipolar. Yeah, the way that it manifests for me is not necessarily because I am usually like the life of the party, someone who can always find the joke, someone who can always find something to talk about. But I think that was a coping mechanism because I do think like, now when I'm on the subway and it's crowded, I think I don't like this,

but it's fine, it's just a subway. For a long time, I would do in a mood where I'd be like, this is just a fucking worse thing. I feel like I'm dying, why am I here? I made it, let me do so. Oh, maybe I do need an eye depressant. Yeah, the like, the like, the level of the darkness. Now, I now have levels with when I'm upset of things

as opposed to everything being the worst if my company. Oh, interesting. Yeah, because I definitely am, I definitely go dark pretty fast on things like with things like the subway or lines, you know? Like we're supposed to take, we're supposed to take Zelda to the Rockefeller.

There's this crazy, I don't know if you've ever been to it. You should really go, by the way. They do a thing called the Christmas spectacular. Oh, have you ever been to it? I have, I've been several times. And they have, have you been to it recently? I mean, I know they have this like crazy VR thing they do. No. Oh my God, you need to go.

Like, they do this crazy like, augment, not, they give you like 3D glasses and then they do this like like augment, not they give you like 3D glasses and then they do this like huge 3D thing where like they go through Manhattan, like on a bus and there's the bus is real, but the screens are like wrap around. So in like everything is like, dude, it's like it's a full on drug experience.

Like it is. Yeah, that's like, the studio is. No, it is truly mind-bending. I mean, I had never been to anything like that. We went last year, it was Laura's idea. I would never do it in a million years. It would never occur to me to do such a thing.

I absolutely hate crowds and lines. And I did have some kind of meltdown in when we were waiting in line. But then it was really fun. Maybe if I run anti-depressants, I could not be so upset during the line part. So yeah, I would specify that I'm not a doctor, but also that that is 100% my experience. And yeah, just give me some of your stuff. I'll try to out for a little bit. We'll see what

happens. Yeah, you want to do it. They didn't have a presence. It's just like chuck some on, chuck some off, you know, really quick. Don't know weening. We don't want to ween. I think just like just let's try it. See what happens. So locked as a party drug. Yeah, I like it. I'm loving it as they say as Justin Timberlake says. All right, is it my turn? Yep. Oh my god, it's my turn already.

I feel like I haven't prepared. I feel like I've run out of it. I didn't prepare of course I never prepare for anything. I feel like I've never run out of things. I'm gonna say video games, okay? I talked about sales before, but video games. All my things are like really lame and selfish. You know what, I, you're like,

thanks, thank you to, it had a depressions to the polarized cast. I'm like, My original list was basically just TV things I had streamed and then I was like, Ryan, get rid of this list, it's not good. You can't just talk about Sabrina for another half an hour.

No, actually, video games. So again, I don't, I don't, I don't, I have to say the switch. I have, I have, look, I've played a lot of games this year, but I have found there have been moments in the switch that I have truly enjoyed. I've been playing this game, Kona. I don't know if you know it at all.

It's like you're, it's like set in the 70s and you're in the Canadian like wilderness, trying to, I think trying to solve a murder. I'm sort of like fuzzy on the plot because I have, I played it to solve a murder. I'm sort of fuzzy on the plot because I played it for a while then saw a planet, but I started playing it the other day because we, because Zalton, I were playing Super Mario Odyssey and then I was like, oh yeah,

I have other games on the Switch that I haven't played in a while. And that was a great rating, Steve. It's a cool game. It's really interesting. It's super weird and different. And it's in the seventies too. I just said that. It's like weird and different. And- And I- And I have a needs to.

I just said that. It's like you're not even listening to me. And I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was. I did. I did. And I think, you know what I really love is like, Red Dead Redemption is cool. And the Spider-Man game is cool.

But like I think one of the things that I'm really excited about is our games like that or games like Dead Cells, where it's just, there's still, you're still kind of like, oh, there's so much that can be done with this that hasn't been done yet. And I don't have that much time to play games, but I think that playing games is really important. And I think that, I think it's good for people to do. And I'm pretty excited to spend time doing it. I fantasize about doing it more than I actually do it but I still oh I Put in a lot of into red dead yesterday like six hours. I'm very I'm very jealous of you

I don't even know what it would be like to do that. I came and found a very fancy pirate hat And I'm it's made the whole game. It's like a new game. I'm in a pirate app and I love it. Here's my thing. I am, when I'm playing it, it's usually in the evening and I'm like, oh, I get be hanging out with Laura. Like, we hang out and she will, she'll watch it or read or whatever while I'm playing but, or play the Sims.

But then I'm like, John, John is a Sims person. I don't get it. It makes so much sense. It's so weird how people are Sims people. And I'm like, I do not why would I wanna leave another, it's like, oh, I have to go to work. Like, I'm not someone else.

Yeah, it's like, I'm good. I do, I like to find the houses. I like to find the houses. Yeah, I'm sure that would be fun. I'm sure that would be fun. But seriously, I don't get it. The Sims, so many people I know love it. Laura's like obsessed with it.

I could never get into it. I couldn't even get into No Man's Sky. Let alone the Sims. Oh, I know, tell me about it. Okay, so any of my point was, the problem with playing games for a long time is, in the evening, I'm like, oh, I can be hanging out with Laura,

like we could play trivial pursuit or we could be talking or watching something together. And then I kind of feel guilty. Not guilty, but I'm just like, I don't know. I just feel like there's a lot of stuff that I could be doing that when I'm playing games now, I feel like torn about. Yeah. You have a child and like I only get like maybe three hours with John on a good day. So the time that he isn't there is when I can like decide what I'm doing with my recreational

time. Right. Right. Right. That makes sense. Anyhow, but that's, you know, but I still, but I still love it. And I still get a tremendous amount of enjoyment from it. Excellent. My next one is Alexandra Akazio Cortez, both because I like socialism, but also she upsets everyone I want to upset so much by just wearing a t-shirt or saying politics is for the people. People just flip out. I know, it's really good.

Everyone I want to be mad is mad at her, and I just want to thank her for that because she's also like a great person, so. Yeah, she seems great. I heard her on, I was listening to Chris Hayes, I believe, and she was on. Well, I didn't know who it was at first because I tuned in.

So, serious, you can listen to a TV station, which is really weird, but I was driving and you can listen to TV stations like CNN and MSNBC. So, I tuned into MSNBC and she was on, but I didn't know it was her. I was like, who is this? She seems really interesting. And then I was like, oh, duh, of course.

Yeah, she seems great. Her Twitter responses are good. I mean, I'm all four people like clapping back or whatever, but also, I want people to do more than clap back. I want them to like legislate. So I'm excited about a forthcoming legislation that is good from people like her. And there are a lot of new people in politics right now

who are representing some viewpoints that aren't a bunch of old white men. And I'm like super pissed about what's going on with the Nancy Pelosi. I think like I'm not like, oh, I love Nancy Pelosi, but like it's really fucked up. Like people are like, she sucks. And it's like actually she's like been a really good

politician and has helped to get up. Actually, she's like the straight up terminator. Yeah, and like she's helped it push through a lot of important shit. You may not agree with all of her politics or all of her stances or the way she talks or whatever, but it is some like weird Hillary shit going on with her where it's like, fuck all of her qualifications. We just don't like her.

And it's like, no, her qualifications are the thing that is important, actually. Like, her personality is less important. And if like, if the Democrats could fucking understand this I mean if all people in politics He's the exact opposite of Nancy Pelosi. Well, this is the conversation I have my father in line He's like who's it gonna be there's nobody out there with the Democrats There's nobody who's compelling. There's nobody who's interesting, you know who could take on Trump And he was talking about how great JFK was and his memory of you know him speaking and blah blah and it's like yeah Like but also like we just get a competent fucking professional

to run the country. I'm fine with that too. Yeah. Like, I don't need to be wowed. Like Obama was amazing, but like, he also was pretty competent. And that's also one thing I was like. And I was like, time politician who is competent and amazing and charismatic.

But I'm not aware. So, but all the fucking, but all the fucking socialists hate him. But like, fuck you, Obama. It's like, what do you want? Like, you want, you think Bernie Sanders is going to be, he's going to do all the fucking, but all the fucking socialists hate him. The fuck you, Obama. It's like, what do you want? Like you want, you think Bernie Sanders is going to be, he's going to do all the fucking right shit when he becomes president? Cause guess what? Yay. Also, he's not going to become president. And I don't think there's anything wrong with holding your, your criticizing your own politicians and holding an accountable and having really high ideals. Again, I am a socialist environmentalist. However, yeah.

Nancy Pelosi has an ability to whip votes and do Jedi mind tricks and work dark witchcraft to legislation paths. And that's kind of what we need right now. And I'll let Alexey and Cazio Cortez come up with a broad, imaginative, progressive shot. Well, she's actually, I mean, she was actually talking about this, there's a coalition of like 16 people, a bunch of white men mostly

from like fucking Southern states in Midwest. Who are like, we don't want Nancy Pelosi, like we're gonna block the vote or whatever. And it's like, first off, they are like retrograde, they're regressive Democrats. They're like basically centrist or Republican Democrats, a lot of them. She was actually talking about this.

She was like, I don't, you know, she actually seem to be pro Pelosi. So, or not pro Pelosi, but like, well, she wasn't like, fuck Pelosi completely. Like, she, I think she, not pro, but like, understood that there is a reason to have someone like that, maneuvering. Anyhow, is it my turn to be thankful for things? Yes. I had just had something and I ended to escape me and now, I have my turn to be thankful for things? Yes. I had just had something and it escaped me and now I have to try to get it back. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Maybe this is my final one.

I'm thankful for, well, this is kind of a big one. But I think that, I think that one of the things that I care about most in the world, I think about a lot, and that I've put a lot of time into personally is like, beautiful things. Like, like, art, I mean, I think art is really important. I think that, but I think that like, a stat, people talk about aesthetics. Now, by the way, aesthetics, like things like minimalism or whatever, has become in that like a stat, people talk about aesthetics. Now, by the way, aesthetics, like things like minimalism or whatever has become in some way a very mainstream concept. Like, you see like, you see like,

design has become much more important in the world than I think it's ever been in a way. Like, things have gone very much from being utilitarian to being like, well, if you can have a million of these things, like what separates them, right? If there's a million staplers, why would I buy one stapler over another, right? But I have been helping my brother-in-law and his fiance, my friend Sylvia, they bought

a house. I'm helping them decorate. And as you know interior design is my my my secondary passion after after great journalism and making cool websites. And anyhow, but like you know I it's one of the things I've been doing is just like you know I'm spending a lot of time I think I've talked about this you know spending a lot of time looking at things like chairs and deciding you know what what is it what makes a chair beautiful and interesting versus, versus not beautiful and not interesting? And I just think that like they're, they're really should,

we should have a much, everybody should have a much higher appreciation for and, and in, in relationship with, to what to them are things of beauty. I think that I find that, I find the thinking about and looking at what somebody has done that why they made these decisions, whether it's a painting or an armchair or clothing, it's really interesting to think about the things that people create that aren't created for a reason other than this is like, this pleases me in some like aesthetic visual way, some sensual

way, and I mean sensual in the purest term of the word, you know. And I think that is like, I think if everybody spent more time with that feeling, if everybody spent more time thinking about that stuff, I think the world would be a better place. I think that it would change the way you think about other people and change the way you see the world. So I'm really thankful for the active creation of beautiful things and the people who create them. I love that. And I love the consideration for the importance of that stuff because I think we get

bogged down in both consumerism or body standards or whatever ends up people end up saying like, beauty doesn't matter. And the thing is beauty does matter. You just have to be conscious of what beauty is to you. And the effect that that has on you and make your choices from there. Beauty can be like having natural light in a space or even just curating the way that you present the things that you have to own as opposed to the things that you want to own, it can change the way you look at them and like your own life set up in a way that it's important. Yeah, I think that and this is yeah, not to say that there is a

standard of beauty that I'm talking about. I'm actually what I think is most interesting is that there are, I mean I've looked at, they wanted a purple chair, a chair that had purple fabric in their living room and sparked by me showing them a purple chair. But then I was like, okay, what kind of chair? And there are, I mean, there are hundreds of thousands of types of chairs. I mean, there are so many different chairs. And there are chairs that I'm like, that's so fucking ugly. And there are chairs that I'm like, that's so fucking ugly. You know, and there are chairs that I'm like,

oh my God, that's beautiful. Typically, the, oh my God, this beautiful chairs are the ones that are really, really expensive and completely out of reach. But, you know, but actually sometimes it's like a cheap, asked, vintage chair somewhere. You know, and like, the only other point is, it's not about, like, I don don't agree with like most sort of modern,

there are a lot of modern conceptions of beauty that I don't necessarily agree with. And I think the thing about it is like, everybody has their own version of beautiful, you know, of what is beauty and like particularly when it comes to art, certainly when it comes to people. But I'm talking more about the things we create.

Yeah, it's curating what's going into your own senses. Yeah, I mean, if you like the dogs playing poker, that's you. That's beautiful to you. And I'm making more of the husbands on the real house side of Orange County. And I salute you. All right, is there you have another one over there? I have two more.

I'll give you another way. We'll get to such a deep level. I'm sorry, we really went deep. I'll come up with, if you have two more, I'll come up with one more. I'm gonna think of one more thing that I'm saying. Okay, to, on a completely different note. But not entirely, I do think that this has

some intellectual merit, but you have to stick with me for a minute for it. My friend Laura Murray, shone holes, we're like Twitter friends, we're not IRL friends yet. I will make her my best friend eventually. A host to show called Saving Sex in the City 3, which is a podcast where every week she has on a guest

and they come with a pitch for the sex in the city, the third sex in the city movie, which isn't happening. And then they improv over the course of an hour or two, the entire movie from start to finish, trying to maintain the emotional, the emotional consistency of the characters, of the show, of the kind of plots that the show, like the emotional plots, the character arcs that the show has and the movies have set up, but they do a completely different genres all the time. Sometimes it's like horrifying, like body horror, other times it's time travel, other times it's just a regular romantic comedy, other times everyone has amnesia.

It's basically like an anthology of what that movie could be or what movies are using the tools of an existing well-known franchise. And her and the guests always know the show inside and out. They have tons of little funny references if you've seen the show. But if you haven't seen the show and you just basically understand who those characters are, you can have a really, really, really, really good time with it. There was an episode where, yeah, they did time travel and they just kept jumping into the past trying to fix things because Carrie eventually has lung cancer in the future and they want to prevent her from getting lung cancer. So her three other friends just keep time traveling to both things we saw on the show

or things that were referenced in the past trying to change things. And they had to track everything that happened on the show. What changes they made, how that would have affected the timeline, how the other changes would have affected the timeline. And it became so complicated and really funny. And it's just one episode of something that I think is on episode, I actually don't know, but I think it's definitely almost a hundred episodes of different plots that Sex and the City Three could be. And it has made me, it's escapist. It has inspired me creatively. It has as a writer, as a fiction writer, as a, I've just, as a comedian, it's been really, really cool.

So check that out. She is hilarious and it is a delight. And I want everyone to check it out, even if you don't like sex in the city. Wow, that sounds fascinating. It's so good. I am legitimately fascinated by the sounds of this and I need to check it out.

It's so good. Okay, I actually remember I did have one thing that I did not that I was gonna talk about and I have not talked about and I'm going to talk about it now. I'm really thankful for I've been getting more into photography and like using, I always have like bought cameras but I barely use them and I just got this lens which I think I talked about on here is like this kind of cheap lens it's called the camel, it's a Camelon 50 millimeter F11 and it's just like a really weird it's Chinese lens. It's super cheap.

It is like it just produces awesome fucking pictures and video and it's a manual focus. So I've like I've lived on auto focus like I'm like an I'm like you know like you know you think about manual focus basically like I have a bunch of micro 4 thirds and I've got a DSLR and like I always just use the autofocus. This is a manual focus lens, right? And it's really beautiful and cinematic looking. It's like extremely shallow depth of field. And it's just cool, it's just weird.

It has weird edge blurs because it's kind of cheap. And I don't know. And so what I've gotten into is like, and I think like Instagram and like the internet is kind of the has, it dulled my appreciation. And frankly, how good phones are has like somewhat dulled my appreciation for how fucking amazing cameras can be like real cameras. Yeah.

And, and lately I've been like experimenting like around the house, like, and in our neighborhood, um, with, I'm so used to like a potato quality reddit picture or Instagram crap, like, it looks like a postage stamp. I'm so used to it. And when I see a gorgeous photo on a, like, like, my 4K TV, when we were just throwing photos up that we took years ago when we had beautiful DSLR cameras before we like broke them and then we were just,

well, just use our phones. We were throwing up photos from like Disney World and I was like, holy shit, like Like a nice photo is a different thing. It's a whole different deal. And we actually had a photographer come here and take some pictures of us in Zelda because we've never had any professional pictures. I think I put something on Instagram,

so you've definitely seen them. And I was like, the pictures look fucking amazing. I think it's part of. And I was like, you know, the pictures look fucking amazing. You know, I think it's part of the reason I was like, yeah, I should definitely like look into this. But anyhow, so I've been really excited about that. And it's like, again, it kind of goes back to the beauty thing, but it's just like interesting to capture, just to kind of look at the world in a different way

and capture things differently. It's, yeah, it's, I don't know, it's just something that I think is like, it's like a cool, fun, weird hobby, but it actually is more productive than the hobbies that I've had going on, you know, which, it's like, okay, cool, I gotta have 12 keyboards. Like, can't do that much with them,

but if you get like 12 lenses, like you can actually, there's a reason to have 12 different lenses, like they do different things. Yeah. That's okay. That's my thought. All right, so for my final thing, I'm going to preface this with, please don't let this

go to your head. I couldn't handle it. God. Wow. I love her. This is going. I'm really thankful for you, Josh. You have been, you've welcomed me.

And I think I speak for the audience. You have welcomed me onto your show and introduced me to the listeners to the show who are fantastic and are constantly in my mentions recommending wonderful games and gadgets and correcting me when I'm wrong, which is more, I like more than you would think. And it's been a great experience. You've been one of the only people

I've had that have mentored me that has been a healthy, productive thing for both of us, I think. And you've become one of my best friends. And I just want to say thank you. And also thank you for making this cool website that I read every day. And I think it's cool and inspiring and that it has been a very positive experience for me and of the people in my life that I can say definitively have enriched it. You're one of the one of the on the top of that list. So that was one of that. That was my last thing. Wow.

Well, let me just say first off, thank you. That was really lovely. And I will. I did. I did. Well, that's a show for this week. You the feeling is mutual. I mean, it really is. And I'll just say this in without getting to, you know, to emotional here. You were a total stranger when we met basically, I mean,

we were basically strangers. We were strangers to each other. Like, I thought you were like me because I wore muppet socks and then I tried really hard not to show off the socks. I don't remember. Do we talk about the socks? I feel like you're massive. I have no idea. We were that level of strangers.

But I'm going to say something. I have grown to truly love you. I think you're a wonderful human being. I think that you're a super smart and interesting and talented. And like fun in a way that I don't have very many, I don't hang out with very many people or never many people, or I'm like, Ryan's always fucking like fun to hang out with. Like, you know, like I feel like I could

air drop you into any situation and like, you will make something good out of it, which is really great. Like, you know, we had an office party. I mean, so funny. We had an office party that was just like, I mean, I can't remember the reason. It was just like, uh,

maybe because we had the new- You just moved into the office, I think? A new office. Yeah, it was like a new office party or whatever. And it was like, you know, like a fun, really fun party. And like, you added up like DJing the party basically. And like, your selections were really good. And it's like, and it was just like, uh, and you added up DJing the party basically and your selections were really good.

And it was just like, uh. We also did a dance battle, and if anyone in the audience has video of that, you have to delete it. Please, please don't. Please don't. I have a lot of embarrassing videos that some day will ruin me.

I'm sure, like, I can't even imagine the thing that's going on. Doing karaoke or dancing somewhere or whatever. But anyhow, I was super fun and I was just like, you know, Ryan is like really good at like, you can be in any situation and make it better. And I think that's a real, that's really an amazing talent. But also like, look, I like talking to you. I think you're great.

And so the feeling is very mutual. I just want to say, I mean, I don't, you know, you know, I'm not, you're not mentoring me, obviously. And by the way, if I've ment've mentored you this is totally by accident, but I'm very happy about it But um, but you know, look it's great. And there's a light listen It's in 2019 very excited about 2019. We're working on some stuff together that I'm excited about and It's just like a lot of cool things happen That is the first time he's to anything that we've been working on together. So I'm excited. That's very exciting. Okay.

Anyhow, so, so yeah, all right. Is that are we done with our thanks? Yes. That is all the things we're thankful and we're thankful for you, the listener of tomorrow. Yes. Of course. All that you continue to listen to the show. First and foremost, and I have, and I want to say like this show, like we've been, you know,

I think this show has been, we've been doing it for a while and it has gone through lots of weird iterations trying to figure out. Like, and I have some ideas about things I wanna do with this show we've talked about, Ryan knows what I'm talking about, but things we may do with this show that could change, potentially change the format. I think, I wanna like crowdsource it a little bit. I have some ideas that I would love to hear,

like I think we're gonna test some of those ideas with the audience before we go and do them, but so get ready. But yes, we are very thankful for anybody who stuck around listening to me. I mean, listen, I think the show is a blast every week to do. And I think the only reason that it's, and I do think that maybe translates into being interesting to listen to, but I think one of the main reasons it is, is because we haven't

done the exact same thing for years and years and years. Like we just keep doing what we want to do. But I think you can admit the VR episode was very bad. I mean, that was tough stuff. So worth the worst. All right, okay, we was tough stuff. It's worth it. All right, okay, we should wrap up. Don't you agree? Because I have to move so many things,

and I'm, Laura's really, really tough off of it. I have two so late. We've been very long. Very long, very late. Please, blame me. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best though I've I've just been told that your family is being cooked and stuffed and eaten

For this holiday Which is very depressing and sad, but I guess you know, that's what you get for marrying a turkey you