Tomorrow - 142: Tumblr Has Snapped
Episode Date: December 7, 2018Well we had a lot of fun... but the internet is over. It's time to pack up and take our nipples home. Tumblr has euthanized itself – via a refusal to host porn – and Josh and Ryan are not taking i...t well. Elsewhere on Tomorrow, they dissect CRISPR babies (not literally), Kevin Hart's latest career disaster, the daily deluge of bad takes, and continue their discussion of Thanos' sex life. All in all, not a bad Hanukkah episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey and welcome to Tomorrow. I'm your host, Josh with Topolki. Today on the podcast, we discuss Michael Cohen, Thanos' boner, again, and yoga.
I don't want to waste one minute.
Let's get right into it.
All right, Ryan, well, we did it.
We made it.
We're back.
We're back on the air.
We're back over the digital airwaves.
So we did not do a show last week. People were very upset. I got several death threats sent to me.
And what you think is weird? I'm really into the episode. Just, oh yeah, no, no, no,
unrelated. Not having anything to do with the episode. No, but we were, we've been moving offices
and last week was just kind of a cluster of fuck. And frankly, we should have told you guys,
and that was irresponsible of Ryan, mainly.
Huh!
I was in the office waiting to record
and guess what, everything was moving around me
and you were crying about a U-Haul
and then there was some kind of fire in the elevator
and now that didn't happen.
There was no fire in the elevator.
Was there, maybe there was, I don't know.
And it's possible. So anyway, so we're back now and that's the important thing and there's a lot of stuff to talk about.
You actually just sent me a list of things.
Some of this is old news now.
Yeah, but I think we should at least touch on some of this stuff.
Where to start? Can you explain the Kevin Hart thing to me?
Sure. Okay, so in the Can you explain the Kevin Hart thing to me? Sure.
OK, so in the times since we recorded Kevin Hart,
he's the host of the Oscars, right?
And then there's something with tweets.
He refused to apologize for old gay jokes
and then said, if you can dig up my old gay jokes,
you could dig up the apology.
And when you dig up the apology, he'd
says, I'm not going to apologize.
And you're like, OK, well, I get it.
You know what?
Today, today people were like, I guess he like quoted Martin Luther King in like, you
know, it's like Martin Luther King Jr.
Like, it's like, I don't know, man, I don't think this debate rises to the level of, I
don't think you're Martin Luther King Jr. status when you're just like, I made some dumb
gay jokes.
And now I can't host the Oscars.
Yeah, and then he just, here's the thing.
If he had just apologized and been like, listen,
we all said a lot of stuff in 2009.
Oops, it would have been like, yeah, you know what?
He's right, whatever.
Yeah, what is that?
Why not just go like, why not just go,
yeah, you know what, I made some really dumb jokes.
I feel really bad about them.
I mean, first off, like, I get not deleting it.
I understand him not deleting them.
I think it's in a way it's good. I think you should own your existence unless you really,
unless you were like, unless you're like a neo-nazi and you had like all these neo-nazi tweets,
and then you're like, wait, I'm not into this. This is stupid and bad, and neo-nazis are horrible.
The government needs to go around and recollect
all her Jesus' magic DVDs.
Like the character.
Sarah Silverman?
Yeah, what did she do?
She do gay jokes on there?
She did a lot of jokes.
Her whole thing was like adorable, cutesy, ironic racism,
where she's like, I couldn't possibly really think this,
but then, you know, it's everywhere.
And then she's like, what dumb bitch would say that?
You know what I mean?
And like, at the time I got what she was going for,
but in hindsight, like a lot of people didn't,
and a lot of people basically just heard racist stuff
coming out of her mouth, and it would feel like,
yeah, you know, it's subtle.
It's subtle.
She's talked about it, she's processed it,
she's worked with other people to like,
yeah, better.
If you're coming hard, just be like, look,
I did some dumb jokes.
I feel bad about them.
I regret making them.
I won't make jokes like that again.
And that's all I need to say.
And he didn't do that until he was like,
fired slash quit the job, which is like,
the first thing any PR person would told you to do is like,
oops, oopsie poopsy.
Sorry guy.
Anyway, you had the Oscar. It would have been fine. Yeah, you like, it's like oops, oopsy, poopsy, sorry guy. Anyway, you had the
author. It would have been fine. Yeah, you like it was a wild time, you know, I was doing
a lot of, I don't know, he's into working out. So maybe he was high on steroids at the
time. A lot of creatine and a lot of creatine. He was, he was, he actually had taken too many
vitamins that day. And as a result, he did a bunch of bad gay jokes. I don't know what the
jokes are and I'm not going to go investigate. And I think I've already heard enough about this
story to know that I don't care.
And in similar news, Kevin Hart's not alone. The president of Grindr had a bunch of stuff pulled
up from his old Facebook page where he rants about how he doesn't like gay people and is against the same sex marriage. Classic. Same. I also have the same post out there. No, I like that way.
So, so, so, so, did you say the CEO of Grindr?
President of Grindr. Okay. So, was he like hired? He's not gay. He is not gay. Okay.
I feel like that's a real leap for somebody who publicly is upset about it.
It's like not only do you have to now be definitely around a lot of gay people all the time,
but you're kind of in the center of a lot of pretty sexy gay activity.
It seems funny to me two things.
One, it's the exact opposite of Tommy Laren who was like, I like abortion.
I'm a progressive blah, blah, blah, blah, and then someone handed her a checkaren who was like, I like abortion. I'm a progressive blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then someone handed her a check and she was like, exact opposite.
And he, so Grindr owns a magazine or like a publication called Into, which is sometimes
fun and other times of varying quality.
Interesting.
And that was the publication that first reported it.
And then instead of just being like in dealing with it internally,
making an apology, say, clarifying his evolving views,
whatever the guy could have done,
he publicly made fun of the reporter who reported it,
who was a friend of mine,
and was like, why couldn't we settle this internally?
I'm very disappointed that you published this.
And it's like, well, you hire journalists,
and it's not a journalist job to like call you up and make
sure you look good and get a heads up.
Like if the Washington Post started giving heads up to Jeff Bezos, it wouldn't be good either.
Well, he says they don't.
I would hope that they don't.
We don't know.
We don't know what goes on over there, okay?
All we know is, all we know is, is, Amazon's come into Long Island City.
And you do a Washington Post, New York branch.
They probably have, I guess they have a New York branch already.
Anyhow, the point is,
that my packages arrive on time.
Listen, that's all that matters is that we're getting,
that I'm getting my prime deliveries as scheduled.
All right, how many how?
Okay, well that's bad news about the Grindr guide.
Did he get fired or what's going on?
He didn't get fired.
Can we talk about this a little bit
because I think there's this whole thing going on right now.
There's a lot of outrage going on, right?
I mean, I think we've taken outrage to it.
And I'm not saying that we shouldn't be mad
at Kevin Hart and the Grindr guide.
I think we should.
But I don't know if you've been following
this Priyanka Chopra situation.
Now what do you say?
And like, okay, so here's the deal.
And like Lauren, I were talking about this over breakfast
and I think it's like, I almost want to write about it
but then I'm like, what's the fucking point?
Because I feel like this is just like,
I've just said this like a billion times.
It's like, so you've got like this article
that the cut published.
Now the cut is like, the cut is part
of the New York Magazine family of brands and like the problem with New York, the cut is like, the cut is part of the New York Magazine
family of brands and like the problem with New York,
and I love New York Magazine.
The problem with New York Magazine is that
it can't just be New York Magazine.
It has to be a ever growing internet destination
for all possible content because that is the way we have
created this, the industry that we have crafted,
the, and there are many reasons for it, right?
But like, we are in an industry,
the media industry where it is about a volume business, okay?
To stay alive and to grow and to grow.
And we've made our journalistic outlets and like magazines
into capitalist entities that have to have infinite growth
on an infinite way.
So yes, so the cut, the cut is very good.
I think they do a lot of really good stuff.
They did this, the Westfield Watcher story, which now apparently has been an option for
a movie, which we had a pitch sitting in our trailer in 2016 on that story and didn't
do it for some reason.
Something I've, I've, I've, I often wonder about.
But you know, anyhow, like that's a great story.
They've broken really important news around
like some of the recent Me Too stories.
They've done important journals
and they also do great fashion stuff.
But then they have this whole other arm
which is like their blog machine.
And people like blogging stuff
and people writing shit.
And just trying to get a take out there.
Like hot fucking takes as quickly as humanly possible.
Okay.
And so what happens when you have a hot take machine
is that every once in a while,
you have a fucking shitty take, you know,
because you're just pumping out garbage into the world.
Like you don't need to do the, you didn't need to do the post.
Nobody was like, man, I wish somebody would tackle this,
the fucking Priyanka Chopra, Nick Jonas scam angle.
It's like, come on.
You know, the reality is it's like,
you're just desperate, every is desperate for content, okay?
So what happened is they write this article
and it's like kind of racist
and kind of just extremely tone deaf in a lot of ways.
I've pre-Prianka Chopra scammed Nick Jonas
into marrying her after a one night stand,
which they have no information that that's the truth, in order to further her career.
Yeah, it's real us,
it's real us weekly sort of level shit,
but like, but, but, you know, again,
like the dissonance here is like,
and I've often felt this about Buzzfeed,
where you have the dissonance between the fucking dress
and then Buzzfeed news, which is like, we're serious,
you know, we're doing real investigative journals
in which they fucking do.
But then they're also like 15 ways, you know,
if you're a snoopy, one of those characters
from the peanuts or whatever.
I don't know what, I literally couldn't even think
of something dumb enough to be the thing.
That I'm fucking videos published and tweeted
right alongside like Breaking Michael Cohen news.
Yeah, yeah, which we're gonna get to in a second.
But anyhow, my point is, so you've got this industry
of the really fucking amazing thing,
is there have now been days of takes about the bad take, okay?
Jezebel wrote one and the post has something
and the people are outraged, they're really upset.
But there, the Buzzfeed wrote this fucking story
and it's like, people are mad about this article.
That's the story.
It's not actually delivering any new information.
It's not telling you something that is vital.
It's not even explaining in really a good way
why you should care.
It's just like people on Twitter are mad
and now we have written an article, okay?
Then you've got like Buzzfeed doing multiple articles on it
and like their reporters are talking about it
and it's like here's the deal.
Like it's a shitty take created by an industry that is like at the edge of it. And it's like, here's the deal. Like, it's a shitty take created by an industry
that is like at the, at the edge of its, it's at the breaking point.
It's at the edge of sand.
It's at the edge of sand. And it's at its breaking point. And it has been driven there by
a fucking advertising duopoly, which, which instead of fighting against the New York magazines
of the world are desperate to be part of.
And they're not trying to change it.
They're trying to be part of it.
And I understand like they've got to support their business,
but there are other ways to fight
and nobody has figured it the fuck out.
And instead everybody's like,
well, it works, it Facebook's working.
I mean, this is like, you know,
Mike was sold to bustle for $5 million or whatever.
And it's like,
businesses are, these businesses are dying
because it's an unsustainable,
we've created an unsustainable space for journalism.
Now, the problem, the real fucking problem is like,
how many of those, sorry, I'm totally rambling now,
but like, so you've got this industry,
it's like hot take machines,
then takes on the takes, they don't even take anymore.
They're just a thing happened and let us observe it for you
and we'll tell you about the our observing of this thing.
I'm gonna tell you how you should feel about this thing.
Well, it doesn't even get that.
It's not even that advanced anymore.
Now just like literally the article on Buzzfeed was
people are mad about this cut story.
And it's like, okay, and like what is your version?
Well, like what is your take on it?
Tell me Buzzfeed news about what I should,
why this is important? Why are we reading this story?
Why is this a news story?
Another are days of the fucking story.
The point is the article is bad,
but it was created because the system
is asking for bad articles, okay?
And the system is asking for reaction articles
to the bad articles and everybody's playing
their fucking part. And so when people are like, how did this article get done?
I mean, a lot of people are like, how did this article slip through?
How did the editors let this go up? It's like, I'll tell you how.
They have a fucking mandate to grow month over month,
to get millions and millions more people.
The other Friday piece, did you see that?
No, what was that one?
Okay, so this is also from the whole.
Let me finish my point.
They have a mandate to keep getting millions and millions more people
every year to read the cut. And now the cut increasingly becomes some watered down vague
catch all for I don't know politics and celebrity gossip and fashion tips and the Westfield
watcher and me two stories and interviews
of celebrities and who fucking knows because because you can't be a thing you
can't be a publication and also play that game. Anyhow so the so I've been it's
very annoying to see it all and this happens now all the time right like this
is this is just the way that the world works at this point. Unless we, and look, it is going to, the reality is like, it is going to be a shit show until
there's almost nothing left, you know.
And then maybe when from that scorched earth, we can rebuild, which will bring me to soon
to the Avengers 4 trailer conversation we're going to have.
But what was your point you were going to make about Ariana Grande?
It's the into that magazine that we just discussed from Grindr published a piece that was like,
the thank you next video is transphobic homophobic racist like basically every quote unquote
problematic thing you could read into something. And it was like this total reach that was
like, she's too tan in the video. that's essentially black face and bushes choice of on which is homophobia like Regina George and was
bullying people which is a trope from the movie yeah and then like and it's
transphobia because someone in the video was a dude dressed as a girl and it was
as a joke and like that's transphobia and like it went on and on it was like how
did this get published and it's like oh I know how this got published. Thank you next stuff gets clicks.
This is problematic gets clicks.
And they just put the two things together.
And when they saw the pitch, they were like sure.
They posted it in hopes that people would get
a little angry and click.
And maybe it would start some kind of discussion
that they could be the link for.
And basically none of this is helpful.
Barely has anything to do with their mandate,
which is to cover queer issues.
You just found something that like gay people were watching
and then decided to like back bend
to make it fit into your category.
And it was like, I mean, not,
I mean, even just the piece itself, like internal logic
wise, didn't really line up, like it really made no sense.
And there was really clearly no editor there.
And then, so there's pieces about the piece,
there's pieces about the piece,
there's pieces about why we wrote the piece.
Then there's a piece about the writer apparently
was accused of rape and is a trans person,
so that's a whole separate piece.
Oh boy.
And it's like this just spirals off
and it's like all of this worked
because what they got was a ton of clicks
and it all worked for them, really.
I mean, they might feel shame or embarrassment
and like have an internal discussion about like,
I don't wanna feel like this to get clicks,
but they got clicks.
So the now the impetus for another person is to say,
next time they get a crazy take to decide
that it's worthwhile in formal.
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's a reinforcing, the system reinforces all of this behavior.
I mean, of course, it works.
I mean, if it didn't work, they wouldn't do it.
But the question is why, why is it working and what is it providing?
What is it doing for people, you know, like what are we getting out of it?
I mean, it's a very troubling, it's a very troubling, whatever, listen.
Everything's gonna be a fucking disaster for a long time.
I mean, but I think that if we don't recognize,
if we can't recognize the,
what is it, what is happening?
If you don't know that you're in the system,
if Jezebel's fucking outraged,
Jezebel knows that it's part of the system,
doesn't it? Shouldn't it know? It knows that its outrage is part of the system that allowed
the peace to be written in the first place. And like, you can be outraged. Your answer
can be like, be better, but the reality is like, you can be the fucking best. You can be
best, you know, as I say. And, and it still doesn't mean that you're not going to push out some shit because you're being forced to
by an unrelenting, unforgiving,
and completely broken industry.
And I say fight the future.
Fight the fucking future.
Get fucking,
we need a pill that were like red pill,
or blue pill, or whatever,
for understanding that the media sucks.
We need a scully and maler on the case, okay.
Ink-pilled.
What is there, is there a meme that has yet to be done
that's like, Mueller, and then somebody with an ass in their name
that sounds like Scully, and it's like a bad Photoshop
of them doing like, they're looking for it.
Aller and Sorrow.
Who?
Mueller and Sorrow.
No, it's like, oh, that's not bad.
It's like Muller.
I mean, who's like, I don't know.
It's Robert Muller and Nancy Pelosi
photoshopped onto Scully and Muller.
And they're looking at a file.
And instead of being an ex file,
it's like the Russia dossier.
I'm sure this exists.
It's like a bad lib beam.
It must exist, right? Anyhow, let's get back on topic here,
because I don't have all day Ryan to talk about this.
I mean, I have most of the day.
Speaking of Mueller,
just talk about politics for a second,
because I can't even, as they say.
It has not given me life, okay?
The politics stuff.
Michael Cohen, Elijah Investigators taking a plea deal.
George Poppedopolis is just served a two week sentence
for lying to investigators, and now he's out.
I don't know what's going on.
Roger Stone is about to be indicted or something.
I don't know, you know listen, who knows is about to be indicted or something. And it's like, I don't know.
You know, listen, who knows?
It could be a witch hunt, I suppose.
I'm as possible, you know, could be very cool,
very cool and very legal.
And Trump coordinated their media efforts,
which is categorically illegal and would be a huge hit.
Who did the NRA and Trump?
Look, that happened today.
Yeah, that just broke.
I can't cry.
Here's the thing.
I mean, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
You could believe you could be like,
this is all a liberal, you know,
Democrats scam operation to undermine the president,
but or more likely.
I mean, they're literally sending people to actual jail, okay?
People that he's like, his lawyer is going to actual jail, okay?
Like, that doesn't happen because the Democrats have it in
for the lawyer, okay?
It happens because he broke laws.
Like, I guarantee fucking to you, something's going on.
It's not just an accident that all of these people I guarantee you, something's going on.
It's not just an accident that all of these people around Donald Trump are going to fucking jail.
Everybody did a crime except Trump who had no idea.
Maybe they were smart enough,
you know that there's some kind of plausible, he's got some kind of plausible
deniability, you know, like it's possible.
No way.
Not with me.
Are they this, maybe they're the smartest criminals of all time, you know, I mean, we'll
have to check Ivanka's emails.
I mean, I'm just saying,
it's possible that, you know, the president knew nothing.
Well, the good news in politics is that,
Milo Young and Appalachis, $2 million in debt
and tried to make a Patreon to get out of debt
and then got banned from Patreon within minutes.
So that's working.
I'm really into that. Meanwhile, Laura Lumer handcuffed herself to the Twitter headquarters
because it was a deep platform. This is the great. This is the greatest. This is this was one of
the best things ever. Twitter was like, you can stay here as long. They're like, the police came
right? And they were like, do you want to press charges and Twitter is like, no, she can stay
here as long as she wants?
Listen at Jack and I might not always get along but I think we both had a good laugh that day.
It's the best. I mean Jack's a schmuck but whoever's responsible for that decision is great.
Great. Maybe it's Jack. So Kudas Jack you've done anything right. He was like,
you know what I love free speech. I'll later have that. Maybe he likes Laura Loomer. Who knows?
I don't remember what her claim to fame is. I think she's...
He did like Nazi stuff?
Yeah, I'm sure she did some kind of Nazi stuff. Okay, anyhow, what else is on our list?
Tumblr band porn.
Tumblr band porn.
Tumblr band porn.
Tumblr band.
They didn't just band porn.
They banned like even things that aren't porn that some people could take as porn. And it's akin to Twitter banning live tweeting of events
or hot takes.
Like what's gonna be on there now?
It's like, I mean, here's the problem is that
there has to be a better way to deal with it.
I mean, the really crazy thing is like, and I've seen a lot of, I mean, a lot of people
are talking about this.
There's a ton of like sex workers on Tumblr.
It's time people who like basically have created like a fan base on Tumblr.
I'm not saying I know personally anything about it, Ryan, but why understand that there
are sex workers on Tumblr performing, selling their many vids, you know, doing selling used panties, etc.
And, uh, or just regular boxers.
Um, and anyhow, it's just, the crazy thing is that like, it's clear that Tumblr has,
it built a large community around, um, sex and pornography.
And, but it also is built a community that's adjacent to that in a way that is not, I would not
necessarily categorize as pornography.
In the sense that there are people that I follow on Tumblr, there are blogs that I follow
and stuff that are like aesthetics.
It's aesthetic stuff and then every once in a while there's a boob.
Or like an ass or whatever.
And I just think that like you really need to think about what you want.
I mean, Tumblr's not going to be Instagram.
They cannot be Instagram. They will never be Instagram.
If they think that they can make Tumblr into some kind of Instagram by getting rid of
like porn, I mean, I think they have a, they really are gonna learn how horrible and hard lesson.
I have a chat on Instagram.
So what do you offer?
Well, that's what I'm saying.
So like, now it's like, okay, you're banning nipples,
female presenting nipples, which is like,
fucking lame.
Like, I just don't know what to say,
except it's just a very lame.
Apple pulled their app from the app store.
Yeah, but they pulled it for like child porn, supposedly.
Which they, how could that company of that size
owned by Verizon not be able to filter a child porn
but leave like regular boobs?
Yeah, like I'm sorry.
Are there any Reddit apps on the app store?
Yeah, there's third party ones.
There's the actual Twitter.
I can find, I can find tons of porn on Twitter.
Yeah, tons.
And there was actually,
I'm pretty sure there was a pretty bad shout out,
porn problem on Twitter at some point.
And there has to be a way to filter out.
Like, there is a fucking way to filter.
There's a way to filter.
You know?
I mean, even if you're a report button
and then you shut that person down
and you like hard ban them from the platform.
But I think this actually gets to like,
the heart of the problem is not Tumblr.
The heart of the problem is fucking Apple.
And by the way, there's a case,
I believe in front of this Supreme Court now,
or near to it, about Apple's monopoly on its App Store.
And what I will say is this,
it's like, Apple, I do not want Apple
to be the fucking company that controls what I can see. And just know that it is Apple's decision. Now look, I look, I'm, you will meet
nobody who is more staunchly anti-child porn than me. Like, that goes without saying. There
are ways to, look, you're always going to have bad actors in a system. There's no way.
There are people sending emails using Apple Mail right now,
full of child porn, okay?
That's a reality.
No matter where the shit touches,
there's gonna be some way to use a platform to abuse it,
and to traffic in abuse.
But-
Especially a platform that constantly talks about
how privacy-focused it is.
And so, yes, you're gonna have bad actors.
Honestly, I'm, I'm,, I messages is probably the single best way
for child porn enthusiasts to share child porn.
Yes.
I mean, it's encrypted.
Apple Apple will help the authorities crack phones.
Ignol WhatsApp.
All those apps, but especially I message.
I mean, there,
that Apple has been very, very like we are hands off.
It is encrypted. We can't get in there even if we wanted.
It's actually the perfect platform for child porn,
which I don't know if they were aware of that or not.
But the thing about it is like, first of,
I do not understand the idea of pulling the entire Tumblr app
because there is an instance of or some child porn reported
or whatever.
It's like, you definitely can go to Yahoo or Verizon
or whoever I'm really, hey, we have a problem problem here like you guys need to deal with it, right? Like
There is a mode
I mean you have to be working to get Tumblr like to get like porn fully functioning on Tumblr
You actually kind of have to work hard at it like at home
Because it's best to bury sensitive content. So like let's not mean, it has never been easy to look at porn on Tumblr.
Like you have to click login, change a setting,
then you have to directly navigate to it
because it's none of it is searchable.
Like if you want to look at porn on Tumblr,
it's not necessarily like a turnkey operation.
I mean, just get, I mean, can't they hire people to,
can't they, I mean, what they,
here's the problem with Tumblr.
They must have really fucking old janky technology.
Like they must not have like
Advanced content filtering technology and instead of building it or buying it
They're like, you know what we just want to have explicit content anymore
Like what is the actual reason?
I'll say this you gave me an android phone to play with for a couple weeks
So I could like familiarize myself a little bit for work reasons. Great segue.
And I have to say like being able to side load
your own apps and like basically having
total control over your device is not to be underestimated.
Yeah, tell me about it.
Like this phone, there are reasons why I'm not
going to ever work at least at this moment,
get rid of my iPhone
and that has to do with owning an Apple Watch,
having paid a lot of money for apps and iMessage.
But it feels like an actual computer
as opposed to like my iPhone, which feels like an iPhone.
Yeah, I mean, I think that it is, I'm not, and again,
it's like, I'm not saying that,
that we should have child porn on anything
because I don't think there should be child porn anywhere.
But if you really believe in open platforms
and freedom of speech and all the stuff
that everybody talks about,
you can't be like, oh, sorry,
no more female presenting nipples on our platform.
You just can't.
And it undermines so much of, I mean, yes, yes, there's porn.
And yes, like the people who are probably most upset are the people who either are looking
for porn or making porn on Tumblr.
But it's like, find a way to manage it.
Don't just shut it down.
Be like a responsible business.
Having an open platform in privacy is your highest goal
and then from there work on what,
how you can prevent bad actors.
But you don't say like, we don't want anyone to hit people
with their car so nobody's having a car.
Right, right.
I just think, I mean, I think there's more to it.
I don't know what, I don't know, we don't know the inside story of this. I would venture to guess that the inside story,
there's a lot of, my guess is it's probably more financial
than anything when it comes to Verizon's decision.
Like, I'm guessing they said, well, listen,
we really can't monetize the porn, although I certainly
see ads all over the porn areas of Tumblr.
They're like, we're not monetizing the porn that well Although I certainly see ads all over the porn areas of Tumblr.
They're like, we're not monetizing the porn that well.
It's getting us banned in the app store.
We're not gonna invest in the resources necessary
to police the system properly.
It's easier to just cut the shit out
and deal with the backlash and then have a platform
that's basically g-rated.
You know?
Like, I'm actually sort of like,
I don't know, I really am kind of like,
I'm kind of gutted about the whole thing.
Like, I love Tumblr.
And I mean, we just wrote, Jeremy just wrote a piece for us
a few months ago about how great Tumblr was
and how it's kind of like one of the last
like great things on the internet.
And you know, now it's like people are like,
it's like what are you gonna do?
Like where do you go?
Like, I mean, one of the things that was really interesting
about Tumblr is like, you know,
for better or worse, porn or no porn or whatever,
it's like the community is really interesting.
Having like a social network that is wide open
that doesn't have rules really, is like has some of the best
parts of social networks which is like you can follow people and they can follow you
and you can communicate with them directly and you can comment on things or whatever.
But like also it's this kind of weird open thing.
It could be like your thing could be photos.
It could be video could be like along, you know, you could write only essays like I my
blog is hosted like Joshua Tupulskiki.com, is a Tumblr blog.
My Ryan Hulland.com is a Tumblr blog.
And I'm like legitimately like,
I mean, it's one of the places that I go
to like find weird interesting things and like post them
like because it's pleasurable.
It's like, there's nothing else like it.
There's nothing else like it on the internet.
There's nothing else like it.
And I found some of the most interesting things on Tumblr.
I've seen some of the most fascinating,
I found some of the most interesting artists,
some of the greatest designs,
some of the weirdest old video games.
I have gone down so many weird rabbit holes
and found so much cool shit because of Tumblr. And like to think that, you know, that is all going to be fucking destroyed
because they're scared of what? I don't know, female presenting nipples. I mean, yes, child porn,
we should all be worried about it. But the reality is like, they could, they could,
I don't know if we're gonna get child's point.
Let's, like,
we, but like that said, I mean,
but that said, but that said,
they can find a way to police it better.
You know, they can.
But they just aren't going to.
And,
a lot of cases have, have, have.
Yes.
Yes.
It can be done. It's just they don't wanna do it. I mean, I think that's the reality that we have to have have. Yes, yes. It can be done.
It's just they don't want to do it.
I mean, I think that's the reality that we have to deal with is that they don't want
to solve the problem.
And so it's a real bummer because like I fucking love it.
And it's like the probably the last really great social network that exists on the internet
as far as I'm concerned.
I mean, I guess people could argue Reddit,
but I'm not a big Reddit fan.
Like, I don't know, like, they don't always do everything I want,
but I do enjoy Reddit and I use it every day and it's useful.
I find Reddit to be good, but it is not,
it's not Tumblr, It's a different thing.
It's not great.
It's good, not great.
It's a completely different thing.
It's just a whole different thing.
So, you know, anyhow, like, I'm very upset about it and I feel like it is a furthering
of some of the worst, some of the worst aspects and worst sort of trends of the internet,
you know, which is, which is to see, you know, which is to like diminish.
I mean, it's funny.
On the one hand, it's like, I applaud Twitter
if they're banning like Nazis from their platform
or if they're banning child pornographers.
It's like, yeah, like use a scalpel.
I mean, Twitter's not doing a good job of it,
but like use a scalpel, not a sledgehammer, right?
Like what you need here is a scalpel.
You need a surgical approach to the problem, right?
Most porn on Tumblr is not the problem,
at least according to what they say.
And the problem it sounds like is
a small subset of bad actors.
And so deal with that shit.
Well, in other phone related news, 5G has begun its PR campaign and it's testing it
to roll out.
Conglomeration of corporations went to Hawaii to show off that 5G is coming.
And I'm not sold on it.
I don't, I'm what's it to be sold on?
It's like there's going to be a faster version of wireless.
I mean, here's my, here's my take on the whole thing.
The wireless is going to get faster.
The wireless.
The wireless, your wireless connectivity
is going to get faster.
Okay, it's not gonna get slower.
I mean, I mean, unless things keep going the way
they're going, in which case, we're all gonna,
we're gonna be using like...
Donald Trump bans Al Gore's internet.
We're gonna be using like strings and cans
to communicate, but no, like what's gonna happen is,
someone's gonna do it, and they're gonna do it better
than somebody else, and then that's gonna be
the de facto standard, and then we're all gonna use that.
I just, it's hard for me to get excited about it.
I'm like, it's gonna happen.
It's just a matter of when, maybe it's sooner.
I bet that life is already really bad
and like they want us to use it in our homes
instead of like broadband and.
Well, if that's better, I mean.
But I don't know, I think in places where the Fios
has been connected, you'll continue to get Fios.
I just tell you I feel like I'm gonna use this.
A Fios user.
They're gonna use this and they're gonna try to push this all into 5G
And they're gonna use this as a way of
Lowering net neutrality standards and giving us all data caps and I don't want that other hold another tumbler
Here's what I feel about Verizon. Here's why come down to Verizon hate them for what they've done to tumbler love them for their
Fios
You know?
I don't know, I'm just like 5G is, I feel like is the least interesting thing
in the world to talk about.
Well, in good news, it doesn't work though.
Well, it's gonna work.
I mean, do you think the internet's gonna get slower, you know?
Maybe.
If I had my way, I'd put a stop to it altogether.
You'd put a stop to the internet. Oh, I love the sounds of that. I think that'd be great.
That's my preference also. I mean, there's so much news. We have to talk about Avengers 4.
Oh, we need to talk about it. I was going to segue it. It was going to segue into Avengers 4.
Some depressing topic. So I haven't seen the new Ant-Man movie, but now I feel like the Avengers 4 trailer
is just a marketing tool for the second
Ant-Man film.
Yeah, they really want us to get into Ant-Man.
Because like, it's like, there's like some thing with Ant-Man going on in that and they're
like, the big, to me, the big, you don't know Ant-Man, you don't know the story.
Yeah, it's like, oh, you would see the Ant-Man.
Well, none of this makes any sense then.
The big, sorry, spoiler alert for the trailer,
the teaser trailer, I don't even think it's a real trailer.
I don't maybe it's a trailer.
A little teaser.
It's not that good of a trailer, but the big,
I think the big reveal is like at the end, Ant-Man,
Paul played by Paul Redd, which is like Paul Redd,
by the way, congrats.
I mean, you somehow have made it
into the largest, most popular film franchise of all time.
And you look exactly like you did in Clueless.
You're literally aging backwards, you're a vampire.
But yeah, no, Paul Rudd is like Ant-Man
and he's like, hey guys, I'm here, I'm Ant-Man
and Captain America is like, when is this from? Which I think we're all supposed to's like, hey guys, I'm here, I'm Ant-Man, and Captain America is like, when is this from?
Which I think we're all supposed to go like,
oh, he must have been like killed or whatever
in the snap, which is now called the decimation,
I believe, is the official name for it.
Anyhow, whatever.
And like, he's not, and which means like,
something's going on.
And so we got alternate realities
or different timelines or whatever the fuck it is.
But I think the long and short is we're gonna be able to bring back all of our fallen heroes
And that's the important thing because um I
I don't know how they're gonna make another spider-man movie of spider-man's dead, you know what I'm saying?
You know, I'm not sure I understand how a spider-man homecoming works if spider-man is or whatever not homecoming the other one
Then the second one far from home. I believe it's called you'll play it like home. Yeah, no, it's called far from home
I think but it's like, I don't remember.
He got like, he got snapped.
So you know, I don't think they're going to kill this better man franchise in its infancy.
So that doesn't make any sense.
I really like the one said that they wouldn't drop a trailer and they should just put out
an all black poster with the Avengers will go and a date at the bottom and just like
balls out, be like, you're going to see this whether we market it or not, and keep it all mysterious.
I was like, that's such a cool idea,
and then of course they're not gonna do that.
Yeah, you know, it's also like,
I'm supposed to believe that the Tony Stark-Peper-Pot's
relationship is somehow like the soul of this film.
The Ross and Rachel of the Marvel Universe.
It's like, the Pepper Pot shows up.
She like, I mean, they've made,
she's like basically there to like up. She like, I mean, they've made,
she's like basically there to like nag Tony, you know,
she's like, Tony, don't do it, Avengers thing again.
And then he's like, I gotta do it, babe.
And then it's like, okay, whatever, who cares?
Who cares about pepper pots?
Apparently she's got a big role in the new one, I think.
Pepper pots is actually the most lethal of engine.
You don't realize that.
Did you see that thing where Gwen Paltrow was like,
I invented yoga.
I mean, I heard the story.
It was great.
I think the story's made up.
I think the whole thing is a fiction.
Just like the fucking story, the thrillous story
where the guy is like, I shut down this burger place
and I was like, yeah, this reads really fishy.
And it turned out like the burger place
was shut down for all sorts of other reasons that had nothing to do with his fucking article. He's like, I was in a bar. And the bartender
was like, you're not going to show any more restaurants down. Are you? And it's like nobody says that.
Nobody at the bar would say that to you. And the whole bar clapped and gave everyone
give you $100. Yeah, it's like, oh, he's like, I was in a cab. And the cab driver was like, oh,
this asshole journalist caused this hamburger joint to close. It's like, I was in a cab and the cab driver was like, oh, this asshole journalist caused this hamburger joint to close.
It's like, yeah, the cab driver didn't say that.
I'm sorry, I'm calling bullshit on your recollections.
I was somehow the center of attention in this town.
This five year old came up to me and very profoundly said,
please, no more shutting down of my favorite restaurant.
Yeah, he said, please, what's going on snacks?
Are you going to shut down McDonald's?
Anyhow sorry totally off topic, but not really
The story about Gweneth Paltrow. Yeah, she's at a she's you know, I don't know what some girl says to her
Have you ever done yoga or like I'm a yoga expert?
Okay, I'm just gonna Google go at it. Paltrow. Yeah
I'm just going to Google, go ahead and tell Julia. I've never done yoga.
And she said, and I thought to myself, you have this job because I've done yoga.
So, so real.
So it's so ripped from the headlines.
Oh, good.
I'm glad fortune has an article about this.
The nice thing I'll say that one nice thing about the content spam world that we live in
is you never have to look very far for the story. You know, we've made it so that the value of a story is so low that literally
everybody has a version of it. Forgive me if this comes out wrong, but I went to
do a yoga class in LA recently. That first up right there sounds like a lie. I
went to do a I went to do a yoga class in LA. It's like what is you live in LA?
Who talks like that? That's like me going like, I went to work out in New York.
That doesn't make any sense.
But also like, I'm supposed to,
we've got a culture that doesn't have private yoga instructor
that she's just going, yeah.
But let's keep going, let's keep going.
Forgive me if this comes out wrong,
but I went to do a yoga class in LA recently, okay, lie.
And the 22 year old girl behind the counter,
okay, let's stop right there.
She's somewhere where Gwyneth Paltrow has to go up to a counter and talk to a 22 year old girl.
You tell me Gwyneth Paltrow's people didn't make the appointment for her or whatever.
And then the girl says, have you ever done yoga before to Gwyneth Paltrow?
Like, this story is, she is fucking making this up.
This conversation never happened.
And literally I turned to my friend, okay, what friend?
And I was like, she has this job
because I've done yoga before.
It's like, I think Gwana thought
this would be like a real zingy quip
that never ever happened for real,
for sure never fucking happened.
It's like all you did is like you made up a dumb story to seem like you had a good like
comeback.
Yeah.
And now you just seem like a total dick.
And people do this on Twitter all the time.
You're just so not plugged into that world to realize that we all know you're doing.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I mean, is she for real?
This is so wild.
That was the beginning of people thinking
I was a crackpot palatros said
by Goob's founding in September, 2008.
Like, what do you mean food can affect your health?
I remember when I started, when I started doing yoga
and people were like, what is yoga?
She's a witch, she's a freak.
It's like, when did you start doing yoga in 1486?
Like, were you talking about?
Like an entire continent in the yoga before you start doing yoga in 1486? Like, were you talking about an entire continent
to did yoga before you did?
Like yoga?
There's nothing controversial about yoga in America
since like, I don't know the 60s, maybe.
Maybe, I don't know, even in the 60s,
if it was like highly controversial,
I think it was like, what's this new thing called yoga?
And then people are like, it's a kind of exercise
and like, that was it.
That was the extent of it.
She's like, yeah, you're in LA in 2008
and people are like, this is crazy.
Yoga, it's like, what the fuck?
Woody Allen had yoga jokes in movies from the 70s.
A little girl came up to me and said,
you want to go go go and I said,
yogurt, probiotics, I invented bacteria.
She's like, I am bacteria, actually,
let me think about it.
Oh my God, anyhow, how do we get on the topic of
going with palatro?
I have no idea.
Oh, we should have a pepper pot, that's how.
Avengers.
Speaking of eugenics.
Wait a second, wait, are we done with our
Avengers conversation?
Do we have nothing else to say?
Stay about it.
No, I think Thanos, I think Thanos is going to
get the ass kicking that we've all been waiting for.
I'm rooting for Thanos.
I want Thanos to win.
I want him to do the rest to the other 50% just be done with it.
And if he really wants peace in the universe,
he just killed Malt.
Just send it off.
He isn't get it.
He's gonna have to go,
but you know what's gonna happen to Thanos in a thousand years,
you're gonna have to come and do it again.
Yeah, that's, and honestly, not even,
probably a hundred years we could all multiply. I know why bother my bother. I like the
dog. Sanos only knows Sanos fucks. That's the main thing. That's the important thing.
It does. But not more anymore. He actually moved to an
L.O. account, which I just also did, and I guess I pretty good.
Pretty good.
No, it's not good, it sucks.
Nothing will replace Tumblr.
Tumblr's the best, and now it's gone,
and now we all have to mourn, you know,
the loss of Tumblr.
Okay, what were you gonna say?
Social networking will all be
I message group chats in the future.
I'm not interested in that.
I don't need the, I need services.
I need to discover cool pictures, okay?
Can't discover cool pictures in your group chat.
And you know who I know what I never want to do
is like being a group chat or text with people.
Like I just, I like a big public when I want to say something.
I say it, somebody hears it at some point.
I don't like being accountable to a group chat.
I mean, it just like, I just don't think it's the same thing.
No.
Anyway, what else?
Anyway, what else?
Did you hear what's happening with Huawei today?
Yeah, the CFO got arrested.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know to say.
I don't look.
I feel like there's some kind of like weird Trump power play.
This is something.
You think so?
I don't know.
Something. Shady, Shady tech so? I don't know. Something.
Shady tech companies is always a fascination of mine.
Like the weird stuff OnePlus does or like,
just like when they fake their benchmark tests,
like all that stuff is always very fascinating to me.
Because we're all gonna find out.
I don't know.
Look, I'm looking at the verge right now.
I get all the answers here.
Okay, you ready?
First off, they explain the Ant-Man thing in the trailer.
Oh, God, which is great.
Yeah.
I'm not gonna read this.
I'll read it after this, after we're done, podcasting.
But also, they claim that pillow fort
wants to be the new Tumblr.
Never heard of pillow fort,
but I can tell you it's got a terrible name.
Very bad name. Pillow Fort. Pillow I can tell you it's got a terrible name. Very bad name.
Oh fort.
pillow fort.
Yeah, it's got a bad name.
Are yourself fort or pillow, but pillow fort.
Here's how I know this is going to fail.
First off, it's extremely ugly.
Second, it is a terrible name that nobody wants to say.
And also, you feel like when you say pillow fort,
you're going to end up saying fart somehow.
Fart night.
Fill a port.
It's not good.
It's not good.
Fill a port is actually a better name than pillow fort.
I actually just realized that I have a really excellent,
perfect, perfect URL for a Tumblr killer that I own.
Are you gonna leak it?
I don't know.
I'm thinking about making a Tumblr thing though.
I think we should build the new tumbler. We should just I mean I'll be honest with you
We have the technology
I mean we have all cards tumbler but all porn there's no
Not you're not if you post a picture or something that isn't porn you get banned porn blur
It's the service works like this
You can post porn, no child porn. If you post anything that isn't porn, lifetime ban, instantaneous lifetime ban with no, no, you can't, what's the word?
I'm looking for no appeals. We have a community review board who goes over art and decides if the art is poorly
enough.
That's right.
If they see art, if they see a nude, if it's too artistic, you get banned.
Yeah.
The point needs to be the nudity, not what you have to say.
It's, it just needs to be raunchy enough.
Okay.
It needs to be real nasty shit.
Anything dripping? launchy enough. Okay, it needs to be real nasty shit.
They think dripping.
Yeah, penetration or bodily fluids or GTFO.
That's our that's our tagline.
Penetration or bodily fluids or GTFO is how we're doing on business.
In your parents' car.
I don't know.
I think it's pretty good.
You have eugenics. Do you know the new mortal combat? Are we going to talk about this?
I want to talk about Gina-ded-ed babies. Oh fine. Who cares? We're all doomed anyhow.
I don't think that we should be in a lab playing Powerpuff girls. I don't know. Look how worked out
with the Powerpuff girls seems like it went pretty well. You know, so, you know, I think you're,
I think you're missing the opportunity
to have a better, more pure, more, more perfect race
with people, okay?
Look, maybe, people are gonna say I'm all right,
but what if I'm not all wrong, you know what I mean?
Just kidding.
I don't even know what I'm talking about at this point.
That's what I wanna know.
What? Can Gina and make the babies wider?
Yeah. Richard Spencer's asking, um, how to save all your Tumblr porn. Now look, I guess
a lot of good articles on the verge today stepping it up over there. Whoever started that
place has had whoever launched the verge should be given an award for best website of all time.
No, but you know what, this is useful.
What do you wanna say about mortal combat, Aleppo? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I know, I think it's like we're eating baby. They're like very tender and very crispy.
And, you know, I don't know what's going on.
Supposedly, there's a Chinese researcher who he used CRISPR
to make a baby.
I don't know anything, but I don't know about the baby.
I mean, how do you disprove this?
Yeah. Well, this is like when they said they were cloning humans and then it ended up that they
weren't. Anyway, there's no way to really know. I just feel like he also went missing. So
he's also saying that he encoded that he altered the embryo so they would have a natural
resistance to HIV. Let's take prep. Why do we have to mess with people's genetic?
I mean, that's pretty interesting, but also that definitely is going to lead to a zombie.
This is a zombie situation.
It's like trying to cure cancer through genetic therapy.
This is exactly how some kind of zombie situation gets started.
They're like, we thought we had the cure.
how this has some kind of zombie situation gets started. They're like, we thought we had the cure.
We thought we could make humans resist
into all of the worst diseases.
But what we did, it was created super fast moving,
flesh hungry zombies.
It's weird how there's just like the same genes,
the same genes you need to alter to make somebody
impervious to HIV also
weirdly makes them into a super powerful, unkillable, undead, flesh-eating machine.
It's just funny that how that worked out.
Got them.
I think how, but you know, it's going to be something like that.
It is.
I don't know.
I don't know though.
Probably more likely, it's like, oh yeah, no, this baby is great,
but it has a four year lifespan.
Yeah, I was gonna say the cloned sheep
was like arthritic in like a year, right?
So.
Look, the universe is telling us something.
It's like, good enough people.
They're like, cut it out.
Yeah, they're doing the Dave Koolie thing
from Full House. That's the universe is doing that. They're like cut it out. Yeah, they're doing the Dave Kool-A thing from full house
That's the universe is doing that
The unseen hand that moves everything in the universe
aka Thanos
Mark it is Thanos let me ask you a question is Thanos God now
He controls he controls time he space, he controls the soul,
which is fucking bullshit. He controls, I don't know what the other stones are.
Soul Stone, do.
Soul Stone is like, it makes you cooler, I don't know.
He's using the yoga.
Yeah.
It allows you into the yoga, all the yoga classes.
The soul stone, I don't know, it't know, it's the most important one.
I think it gives you power over life and death.
All right.
Maybe.
It seems like the ones that make you make fire
and bend earth would be the ones that give you that power.
I don't understand why.
Why was the red skull hanging out with the Soul Stone?
They never really explained that.
Yeah, I never got it real quick.
Like, he was like banished for trying to get like,
some stones, it was like banished by who?
Although I do like the meme of,
I protect what I cannot have or whatever.
It's like Reddit moderators and like,
Oh, he's like a Reddit.
He's a Reddit.
You're saying he's a redder. That's cool.
It's cool. He's a redder in the in cell. Uh,
and that's his huge untumbler. I'm sure I love the reddit. I think it's got to be some really good renders of like Thanos fully nude, right?
I'm gonna go put right now. Hold on. Sanos nude.
Iraq. Take that. Oh yeah. Oh my god. Oh my goodness. Oh, I'm sorry. I
guess send this over to you. This is I guess this is pretty good. Wow. I
recommend everybody Googles this as soon as they can. Here's a little something for you. Enjoy
Oh my god. Yeah, it's pretty realistic. I think it's extremely realistic. Yeah, it's pretty good I mean, I gotta say once you have a 3d rendered guy
It's not hard to read repeat it's auto
Whoo, I like this is that a weird angle. Well, Santa's nothing's been about Thanos. This is perfectly straight. You know what I mean?
Oh, I know.
With so many levels.
Um, anyhow, wow.
OK.
He's got the glove on and everything.
It's cool.
Yeah.
Well, he's using that glove.
Yeah.
That's great.
I got to get the model of this.
I got to get the model of this to use for some films
that I'm working on.
Anyhow, OK, where were we?
I don't know.
Other things I wanted to talk about.
This is a little bit old at this point,
but I do think it's interesting.
Sony patented a cartridge for like cartridge-based gaming
like the Switch has.
Oh, the Switch Six cartridges?
I didn't know that.
Yeah, I never really explored that.
What are the two cool games?
I didn't explore that.
Well, I think cartridges, and they,
oh, and the interesting thing about the Switch cartridges
is that they taste really bad
because they're small and they don't want little kids
to put them in their mouths.
So they have this coating on them
that makes them taste terrible.
Hmm.
Anyway, Sony patented a cartridge,
which leads to the belief that we're getting
the next PlayStation will be some kind of hybrid
like the Switch.
I think it'd be so cool, I think it'd be so cool if we went back to cartridges. I
Love it. I love that idea
Mm-hmm. It'd be really nice if
Red Dead took two blue race. Yeah, like it'd be cool if we came up with something better than like downloads
Mm-hmm
You know, I actually hate download game. I hate digital games
I never I never buy them if I can avoid it. Well, I like the idea of having a.
You know, like a thing a physical thing. Yeah, that's what I like. I like like having it. I know I can give it to somebody. It's a keep-sake. I have all my old Nintendo cartridges, or my old Nintendo setups and like,
like Sega and my whatever, and John's closet.
We need all the mouth.
We need like the vinyl of...
We need like the vinyl of video games.
Like those paper roll-out scrolls from the 60s
that they would feed into computers.
What were those called?
Punch cards?
No, just like, well, no, it could be a cartridge.
I don't know, I was into it and I don't know.
It's so useful.
Hybrid console, I have to find out if it,
I don't know.
Here's a fucking awesome idea.
You wanna hear crazy idea?
Like, what would be cool is, which nobody does,
you could do like limited edition games.
Yeah. Where like, you could do like limited edition games.
Like, where like, you could create a whole market for like, oh, there's only like 10,000 copies of this
in existence.
They do that sometimes with games that become big hits
on the eStore or whatever, they'll release a limited edition.
Like, you can only, there's only a few thousand copies.
I'm talking about like the game itself.
It's like, oh, this game's super dope,
but like you can't, not anybody can get it. Yeah, and like there's a you could have
like literally like the supreme of games. That'd be fucking really cool. Also like I think um
I don't know there's like something to be said for that idea that like you could do
maybe like smaller things you know one off, not one off,
but like a sort of like little things,
but like really cool little things.
I don't know.
But I will say like I'm excited about new game stuff
because I think I was like very,
I was like very unimpressed with the switch.
I was like the switch.
I was like, I kind of want it, but like, I don't know why.
But I have to say like, I've decided now
that I think it's, there's something that's really cool about.
I wish like the thing that bugs me most about the switch
is like, I wish the switch was super powerful.
Like, yeah, okay, so I said I wasn't going to get Pokemon,
let's go.
But I got you the king of, you the king of being like, this is stupid, why would I want that?
And then you're like, I bought it, I love it, I'm playing it obsessively.
I actually, I don't like, I don't love it.
I got it.
I was a gift.
It was in a choice.
And I do like it, I don't hate it, I do like it.
But to that point, like the graphics aren't that far from Pokemon Go on my phone.
And like so the switch is great for like, I mean, your phone,
the new iPhone's probably is more powerful in the switch.
Like Breath of the Wild looks good, but then, you know, you play red dead for a little
bit and you're like, how can I go play this cartoon game? Like I just,
yeah, so this is my, um, this is my thing.
I'm saying like, why, you know,
why don't we have a handheld system
that's like as powerful as the PS4 Pro?
For just as powerful as a fucking iPad.
Yeah, sure.
I mean, I wanted to be like a full on system
with all of the power. Like, it should be a thing where it's like it degrade like it has Maybe like the thing that you plug into when you're in front of your TV is like a GPU
Yeah, it's an additional GPU and it goes from like yeah, it goes from like iPad level to like full on fucking
Gaming PC like Xbox one.
Yeah, like that would be, that would be fucking amazing.
Like let's say, we have the plug-in GPUs now.
Yeah.
Yes, to me, that's what Sony should do.
I hope they're fucking doing it.
I hope it's like the games look awesome.
They're like better than iPad level graphics.
But then when you plug in to your fucking TV
or the base or whatever, or maybe it's
even like it's just a thing that makes it larger and it's like you can choose to use it or
not. I mean, I guess it would make sense if it was a doc. When you dock it, it's like you
get 4k gaming rig level quality. Yeah. Just make that Sony. Just fucking make that. Please
make that. Appease everybody. Make everybody happy.
It's some sick-ass cartridges.
The Vita 2.
Do they make a Vita 2?
I think they did.
Great.
I hope they taste like cookie dough.
Wait, who made, what did you say about the cartridge flavors?
Switch tastes, the cartridges taste awful because they want little kids to keep them out
of their mouths.
Why would they taste good?
I don't, I mean, the S games just tasted like plastic,
but these are like coated in like a horrible flavor.
So I want Sony to come back and make them real tasty.
Just does a troll.
I like the sounds of it.
What else is happening in the world?
I wanna talk about Usha, Project Usha?
I mean, is there any new Fusha news, really?
I mean, is there any time for this for a while
I'm wondering what what the heck could be I've been playing with Android seems great
I can't believe you're just now playing with Android
No, I mean I had an Android phone a while ago and I definitely knew my way in and out and I installed Android on my touchpad when I had it
But that was years ago it
It's it's different now. I mean I'll say. I think we're long overdue for new OSs. I think it's crazy that
our OSs...
It's crazy that the iPad Pro runs OS, iOS 12.
And essentially an un-non-augmented version of it. It's not like, yes, underlying is iOS,
but then it does all these other special things because it's a fucking 12-inch screen. It's not like it's like, yes, underlying is iOS, but then it does all these other special things because it's a fucking 12 inch screen.
It's like, it's just a bigger iOS.
And like honestly, I mean, seriously,
I just got the new Android 9 update for my Galaxy Note.
And the Galaxy Note is doing stuff
that the iPad should be doing.
Like it has windows, you could move around at resize. And like, you're that Android
never took off on tablets or whatever and they're doing this Chrome hybrid thing. But it's
weird because iPad took off and the iPad's OS is not a computer OS. And my Android phone
that I've been playing with feels way more like a computer than the iPad does.
Yeah. I mean, I just think I think that that that's the thing and I think that when you really look at the
options for operating systems, like when you see what has developed, there's really been too much
of a reliance on the way we've always done things. And I think that what excites me potentially
about what Google's doing is there is definitely this,
something that I think is interesting is that
how much you can actually do with notifications
versus having to go into,
and this whole idea of going to apps has become,
there's parts of it that sort that don't make any sense.
There are components of those apps you need at certain times in places.
I think there's a really interesting way to think about OS design differently.
Think about the way people use devices now and what types of devices they have and make it much less about like being in these very specific places and more
like of a fluid experience. So, I don't know. You should have palm trees and windows
phones and with deep integration of all the apps. You think that's what we should do?
I mean, I really liked the way that the pre did it and I liked some of the ideas and windows
phone of like merging all my contacts and making everything like I mean Android
Android basically does that I mean to for the most part I
Mean it's different on iOS that I can't download a video and then tweet the video out
Yeah, well, I mean that's iOS
I mean you're on rails man everything's on rails
You know you can see the scenery but you're not getting off the train, you know what I'm saying?
They're getting real desperate though.
They're on all these discounts and trade-in deals,
and they're just trying to get people to buy these iPhone XRs,
which are, I played with one at the store
because I got John and Apple Watch for the holidays.
And I was like, what is, I don't even tell the difference.
It's the exact same phone.
Yeah, I mean, that's basically true.
I mean, look, I'm just saying that we are definitely due
for something new.
We have not dramatically changed the way,
I mean, the iPhone pretty much changed the way we think
about interacting with devices,
but like that innovation was like over a decade ago
and it has not been radically altered since then.
You know?
I just, I know we're probably rocketing our way toward the classes of some kind.
I don't think so.
I think it's just like, I just think it's like the devices could be a lot smarter about
how you're using them.
And the underlying OS could be, I mean, like,
I think one of the things. Yes, here is bad. I mean, but forget, I mean, to think you,
I think beyond that, it's just like, there's like situational awareness. There's sort of like,
there's like all this awareness, like geographic and time of day and where you are, like,
you work or you at home, like, and then there's all sorts of, like, there's so many more signals
that you're giving your devices,
and there's so few of those signals are actually used,
you know?
And the other thing is that I think,
you've to remember that all the stuff
is basically built on Unix, you know?
And is there something,
maybe this is what Fuchsia is taking us to?
You know, is there something, yeah,
that I think that's, yes, that's possible.
Hurry up, Googs.
Yeah, I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon.
What's the deal?
When is this gonna happen?
I don't know, I just heard that they were testing devices
at a couple of conferences recently
and like people saw in passing
that they were doing some funky stuff.
Yeah, I mean, they're definitely doing some things.
Whoa, well, I just started the're definitely doing some things. Whoa.
Well, I just started the video about Fuchsia while we were talking.
What does it say?
I don't know, it's like a demo of it.
But it's not a real thing yet.
So it's a demo of some weird test environment
that doesn't really do anything.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it doesn't look like,
I mean, it just kinda looks like Android.
Yeah, it's like a fancy Android. I don't know, it doesn't look like, I mean, it just kind of looks like Android. Yeah, it's like a fancier Android.
I don't know. It's like, I know what it's doing. It seems good though.
I'm into it. Get cool animations.
Post Malone. Got a Grammy nominee.
Oh, Post Malone got a Grammy nomination. He earned it, you know.
He earned it. You, you assisted. that was a heavy assist from the balls.
I did a lot of writings.
Did a lot of, I was like, listen,
don't leave this guy hanging.
Oh, and Marvel canceled all its Netflix shows
except Jessica Jones.
Well, they were bad, weren't they?
Let's be honest.
It's terrible.
I couldn't even finish Jessica Jones.
I was like, I don't know, I just couldn't get into it.
I liked Jessica Jones, but I understand why people did.
I heard there was going to be a Loki,
and I don't know, some spin-off thing.
Scarlet Witch.
Scarlet Witch and Loki?
Yeah, they're doing that Disney play service or whatever.
I don't know, I'd watch that I guess.
Yeah, I mean, they're gonna get our money
just for the Star Wars series along. It was a Star Wars series. I don't know, I haven't seen Solo yet. Yeah, I mean, they're gonna get our money just for the Star Wars series along.
It was a Star Wars series. I don't know. I haven't seen solo yet. So I was thinking about watching it last night. I almost watched it.
I downloaded a ton of movies that like just came out and I was like, I'm gonna line all these up and I'm ready to I'm ready to rumble. Yeah, and I
even had like the inkling. I gotta see a star is born still. Oh, you gotta see a star is born. I know, but I just don't want to...
That's a good movie.
I need somebody to just give it to me.
All right.
I don't have time to go to the theater, you know.
The theater.
What busy man.
What busy man.
All right.
Anything else?
Is that it?
Is that a show?
Oh, we've got nice things and also a plug that if you want to come
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Yeah, what else what was the other thing? Oh nice things nice thing mine's gonna just give me this picture of Thanos and I racked Thanos
extremely detailed a vany picture
fan us. It's extremely detailed and vany picture. Blankets, those woven blankets that you get pictures printed on made up for you. Please, please, this is our do. I've already seen
some limited edition merch. What's the like, what is the policy on that? Like, you know,
like, do we get sued? Would they even touch it? Would Marvel touch it?
We could call it parody, right?
I don't know.
You wanna do your nice things?
My nice thing is the Underprone brules is back.
Oh, God.
Better than ever.
Locked and reloaded on pasta and cocaine.
Wow.
It's really good.
It's definitely worth a watch.
And I super smash brothers is taking over my brain.
I'm thinking about mine, it should I get it?
At it, we could play online.
You see, it's just a fighting game though, man.
Yeah.
There's a, like a single player story mode,
that's supposedly pretty good, but it is just fighting.
I mean, I'm open to the idea.
I don't hate the idea.
Is that it?
Is that it?
Those are your likes. Those are your likes.
Those are my likes.
That's it.
And let's go Eevee.
I mean, let's go Eevee.
What?
I like the little Pokeball.
I like the little ball I got with it.
What is that?
Oh, oh, oh, oh, the Pokemon game.
Yeah, I like that.
I don't know.
I'll take my likes.
We got a new trivial pursuit for Hanukkah.
We played that last night.
Pretty good. I gotta say, trivial pursuit's a great game. We played that last night. Pretty good. I got to say,
trivial pursuit is a great game. Everybody should play it.
I'm thinking about getting that I want to get that there's a version for families.
It says eight and not, but I think Zelda can think she can hack it.
You know, per coach. Yeah.
It was the one that I recommended yogurt yogurt to go and found it right.
Yogurt and yoga actually.
She was like, have you heard of yoga?
When it happened, I was like, I invented you.
She's like, I created the universe and everything in it.
You can call me Thanos, I am your god, man.
Yeah.
Let me see, what are my things?
Oh, it's always something I bought.
I feel so like I'm such a horrible, like,
capitalistic pig.
Well, one is, I just wanna say, true. It's great. And it's wonderful to play a board game and
not be on the internet. It's super fun. I recommend everybody that everybody, I recommend
everybody to do it. I recommend it for everybody. I'm not really sure how to say this. I want
everyone to do it. Um, and, uh, oh my God, I got a weighted blanket.
Do we talk about this?
Another hunk of gift.
I got a weighted blanket and it is so good.
It changes the game.
It is truly one of the most,
honestly, I feel like when I put the weighted blanket on me,
I can feel muscles relaxed in my body
that I normally never relax.
It's like a big hug.
Like I feel like I can feel like my back,
like decompressing in a way that like it never does.
Yeah, I highly recommend getting yourself away to blanket
in these trying times.
I think we all could use an artificial hug
from an inanimate object.
It's finally Temple Grandens world and we're all just living in it.
Yeah, and I think I don't know that's it.
I guess that's it.
French 75, so already said that before.
I continue to love and enjoy French 75.
Oh, and I really liked, I used,
we had our holiday party and I used an app called
Pace Maker, which is on your iPad and it does a bunch of
auto DJing for you and you can integrate it with Spotify.
It is so useful and great and easy to use and
drunk with me could make it all work and sound great.
Yeah, I had a fun.
You did a great job. We had a holiday party and also our two-year anniversary.
I should say, having birthday to the outline,
it turned two on December 5th.
We had our two- year birthday party slash holiday party
in Chinatown, and it was super fun, Ryan DJed.
And I think I wanna do more events.
Like I think we're gonna do some more event things
and like invite people, more people to them.
Maybe do a live tomorrow or something. Invite the fans.
Do some giveaways, free drinks.
Yeah.
You know, it could be fun.
We'll give away a weighted blanket and some Thanos prints.
I'm loving it.
Absolutely loving it.
All right, we should wrap up.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
It's been a great one, but I gotta get this party started.
All right.
My French 75 party. Well that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more. And as always,
I wish you and your family the very best, though I've just heard that Thanos is coming
for your family, and I don't mean to do the snap.