Tomorrow - 151: The Cult of AI

Episode Date: February 16, 2019

What do Ross Perot, Ryan Adams, and Esquire Magazine have in common? Well, they've all somehow weaseled their way back into relevancy this week, thus leading to a full hour-long discussion by Josh and Ryan on Tomorrow. Never fear, listener, because it's not all bad men. We've also got cults, hoaxes, and Elon Musk's evil AI to contend with. Yeah, episode 151 is weird – but would you have it any other way? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host Joshua Tupulski. Today on the podcast we discuss Tay, Tweet Clarification in Star tropics. I don't want to waste one minute. Let's get right into it. Well, this is it. We're back. It's another tomorrow episode. It's a new tomorrow. It's the next day. It's episode 151. We now have an episode of tomorrow for every single original Pokemon. It's the day, I don't know what that means,

but it's the day after yesterday. You know what I mean? Think about that. It's the day. It's the day after today. Yeah, I think more about that. That's what I want you to be thinking about. Not the other thing I said that was incorrect.

It's stupid. Okay. That's right. It's tomorrow. We're here. We're queer. Get over it. Get under it.

Get under it. Get under it. Get next to it. Get next to it. Yeah. Anyhow, no, we're back. It's episode 151 apparently the number of Pokemon that exists Pokemon In the first game in the first game we respect all Pokemon hasn't played it won't play it refused to play it Another episode of tomorrow coming to you from dystopic hellscape which we're forced to discuss. I love it

I love it. You know what I did today that was an act of self-harm and open Twitter? Well, yes. Yes. Yes, but also I watched the president, President Trump, who apparently is the president. I can't corroborate. Continues to be the president somehow beyond all possible evidence otherwise. I watch him give a press conference.

And I get to say, man, we're living in pretty dark times. I mean, this press conference was a press conference where he wanted to tell us about how he had to call a state of emergency for America, a state of national emergency because of the gangs and drugs pouring over the border. He said, and I quote, it's an invasion. Like, he really said that and meant it, I think. And then, but then later in the, in the same conversation, in the same press conference, was like, I didn't need to do this. I just wanted things to move faster.

So, you know, I don't know. I'm no expert on politics or brains, but I feel like when you say something's an emergency, and then you're like, it's not an emergency, I'm just like impatient. I feel like you're kind of undermined in your argument, you know, in a major way. Can you say explain to me what a real wall emergency

would look like? What a wall emergency. Like, like, like, like, we need a wall, we need a wall right now. Like, what kind of emergency requires? I could see one taking down a wall. I got it, I got it. Have you ever seen a World War Z? Mm-hmm. What the zombies are, see one taking down a wall. I got it, I got it. Have you ever seen World War Z?

No, they're climbing up the wall. I can't remember where they are, but it's like they're in Egypt or something and they're climbing up a wall and they're all like, they're spiraling on each other, moving it super fast, zombie speed. But even in that scenario, it's not like Fortnite where the wall just appears, you'd have to build it.

So a wall wouldn't be your solution there. Like there not it's the only wall emergency is taking down a wall and a wall no no that's just contracting you like we got to get it up fast you'd be like it's an emergency but by the time I mean let's just that's just use World War Z as an example by the time you got there by the time you've done by the time you're done announcing the emergency you're you're you're you eating, you've been eaten by a zombie. Like national emergencies, like, is like nukes are coming or like 9-11, those are national emergencies. Yeah, nukes is, yeah, I mean, I guess. I mean, nukes are like, you're, you just get somewhere,

get somewhere you wanna die, get comfortable. That's what I, yeah. Is there like the nukes are coming? That's beyond, I mean, you're not able to- Well, that's like, that's like when I grew up on Long Island and they built a power plant in my town and then they never turned it on because everyone was like,

what happens if there's a nuclear meltdown? Like, we should build this in Connecticut because we're on an island, we can't get off. People in Connecticut could get somewhere and it's like, if there's a nuclear meltdown, we're not going anywhere. It doesn't matter if it's a Connecticut or here. You don't know that.

You don't know. I do. You don't know that. You don't know. I do. You don't know anything. Okay. What's the insurmable? You only know what, what, the thing is, what MS 13. You only know what MS 13's been telling you. MS 13 and the MSM. And no, MS 13, very active in Long Island for what I understand.

Oh, please have a conversation with my dad for 10 minutes. He's always talking about the conversation. You can't go anywhere on Long Island without getting assaulted or accosted by a member of MS 13. I understand. Oh, please have a conversation with my dad for 10 minutes. He's always like, I'll be talking about him. You can't go anywhere on long-end, without getting assaulted or accosted by a member of MS-13. You try to go to downtown port Jeff, get yourself a cupcake, you can't.

It's a war zone, it looks like kill zone down there. Forget about it, is what I say, because you're gonna get attacked by a member of MS-13. Yeah. No, it's a bad scene, it's a nasty scene, and we gotta protect everybody by building a wall that will take 50 years to build and will cost $500 billion

and we'll do nothing. I mean, it's insane. It's insane. Wait, no, what's crazy is that he keeps bringing up El Chapo and drug dealers. And it's like, that dude's whole thing was tunnels. Like that dude's whole game was that he built tunnels to get things where he needed to get them

So why are you bringing him up in the context of a wall trying to convince people that it would work? Well think about it this okay You have to build a tunnel if you've got a wall So you know you're kind of like slowing things down Okay, I truly that's my policy slow it down. Don't stop it, slow it down. Get it to a crawl, like the Long Island Expressway. Not a Long Island, but a Long Island God- Well, the Island is the most relevant and prevalent issue of our day.

No, look, I don't know what we're talking about. The president's fucking completely unhinged. He needs to be stopped. I don't know what Robert Mueller is doing, but the time is now, the time is now. The time is right now. Like, you got to make a move, okay? I don't want to be one of these, I'm not one of these resistance people, but seriously, buddy. You know, just can you, can you, can you, can you get him in jail? Quick, because we got a lot of problems over here. Yeah, we just kind of monopoly him at this point. I don't know what that means. Oh, oh get him put it give him the jail code

directly to jail do not collect $200. Yeah, that's one way to do it. That's one possibility Anyhow, what else is going on out there? I mean we've talked a lot about president Trump my number one favorite president of all time But what else is happening in the world Ryan that we should know about? Well another presidential news Howard Schultz was on CNN to give a town hall because apparently all it takes to be a Serious presidential candidate is not literally any poll numbers or interesting campaign platforms It's just like money and fame because we've learned nothing. I got two words for you Ross Perot

Neither one of those are words, but you know what I'm saying right Ross my dad was so into Ross Perot. Neither one of those are words, but you know what I'm saying, right? Ross, my dad was so into Ross Perot. He was like, yeah, do you remember Ross Perot? That shit was crazy. He was like a little Texan billionaire. My main point of reference for Ross Perot until I was like 23 was that they would make fun of him on like tiny tune adventures a lot. I mean, tiny tune adventures informed a lot of our discourse in the 90s. Okay. Yeah. The national discourse and dialogue, you know. But he was such a comical figure that like cartoon characters couldn't couldn't help themselves. Well, he he had everything going for him. He was a little guy. He had a strong and thick southern accent. He was a billionaire.

He had a strong and thick southern accent. He was a billionaire. His, his, Not very different than you, somebody Sam. I mean, he had a, he had a Yosemite Sam vibe, I would say. Yeah. You know, like he was in that sphere, that sphere of influence. What we talking about right now?

What do we have? I worked shults. Oh, shults, right. He did a CNN like round table or something. And, and what do we, Town Hall? Town Hall, right. And what do we do? How are we doing, guys? Oh, shultz, right. He did a CNN round table or something. And what do we, a town hall, right? And what do we learn about him? What do we know? Nothing.

We learned that he has an inability to think on his feet and he said that he doesn't see color, which should tell you everything you need to know about his understanding of social and class issues. I know how he feels. He's so impervious to the concepts of racism and the idea of it that he failed. He can't even tell what any of the city is.

He literally sees the world like, like I love Lucy Times, but like even worse. He doesn't even see shades. He just like blobs. We're just coffee buying. He's like, we're all, we're all, Blobs we're just coffee buying you like we're all we're all Orbs of pure energy floating around and towards each other or a white black lives matter I don't even know who is and who is in black

Yeah, he's like it will work. He's like all lives matter. You know what I mean? He's like you guys are you guys heard this one? I Have a new I've neat slogan for you. It was like, listen up. I know Black Lives Matter, but you know how I think of it. All Lives Matter. People are like, you go, you go, shultz. Tell them how it is.

But why is CNN giving him this time? Is it just because they want the ratings that he's had? Yes, you nailed it. CNN is the number one fucking propagator of Donald Trump fucking bullshit. I mean CNN is responsible for Donald Trump being president You know the they fucking put him on first off a Jev Zucker who runs CNN Made the apprentice happen, okay, that's number one number two They fucking loved putting Donald Trump on TV,

no matter what he did, because he got ratings. And all that CNN actually cares about is ratings. They're not a news organization. They're a fucking ratings organization. Their job is to get ready. There's some kind of mainstream media fake news. Listen, we're getting dangerously going close to agreeing with that.

But failing CNN. I've been saying this for a long time. All they care about is ratings and fake news. I don't know. I don't know what's happening anymore in the life. I really don't. I just want a little plot of land, some soil to till a steady supply of cocaine and heroin. Up until that point I was gonna say,

you're describing Stardew Valley, but then the cocaine and heroin. And just unlimited budget for new video games. Is that too much to ask from the world, from the earth? And I'm having a die coke with the ginger lime die coke right now. And I gotta say, I think it's affected me in a powerful way. Have you ever had it? Have you ever had it?

Yes, I've had all those flavors. Have you had the blueberry? Yeah, blueberry is fucking disgusting. It's gross. Let it be known. A lot of those are gross. I like the mango one. Anyway, we need to talk about real things.

Okay. In other fake news, mainstream media nonsense. Yes. Esquire dropped truly the maybe the greatest piece of writing of our time. I'm sorry. What's more timely than hearing what it's like for a white kid in America right now? I get it. I do get it.

Listen. Hold on. The cover. in America right now. I get it, I do get it, listen. Hold up the cover, they put this white guy kid teen from middle America on the cover and they were like, what it's like for real Americans or whatever, an American boy. I get it, I get it, I don't get it, I do get it. Let me explain it, let me explain it, okay. Don't Susan or Leigh, unless you can Susan or Leigh.

There's like a lot of white people out there right now and they're like, but what about these poor white guys? And I understand, they're cause they don't, they don't know thinking about what's going on outside of their white world. They're like, what about these poor white kids? And I get it, look, there are some white boys who aren't horrible, I assume somewhere, I guess.

And they're like, man, what the fuck? I'm just living life, I'm just being a regular white kid and now I got to deal with these SJWs or whatever they say. But if they have that opinion, then they're like, man, what the fuck? I'm just living life. I'm just being a regular white kid. And now I got to deal with these SJWs or whatever they say. But if they have that opinion, then they're horrible. No, I know, I'm just kidding. But presumably, so there's just somebody somewhere who's like, what the fuck, you know, like I agree. Like, you know, institutional racism is bad

and a man need to be taught how to behave. But if you agree, then you don't have the opinion that we need to stop talking about it. You'd have the opinion that we need to keep talking about it. You'd have the opinion that we need to keep talking about it. No, but they're like, they're like, what's it like for a normal white kid? I don't know. I honestly don't know.

I'm trying to think of a way to describe what they were thinking and I'm having trouble because it's like, because maybe it was just a bad idea. I get it, I get it. It's like there are, there may be some nice white kids you know and they're not all me towing not all me-to-ing people.

And so you're like, we should talk about them, but actually there's way more important things to talk about. And those guys have gotten enough press. The nice, nice white guys, they've, nice white guys have gotten all the press for like a 200 years. Yeah, I'm just sick of hearing about like, why you voted for, like I don't give a shit.

Wait, oh, these are trumps. Wait, these are Trump voters. I mean, the kid was like, Vig, so did you read these? I thought it was like, no, I didn't read. I'm not going to waste my time with that bullshit. I thought it was like, he's like a white boy in America. Yeah, you're right. I mean, I understand.

They're like a white boy in America. I mean, I'm not endorsing it. I understand their, I understand the editorial mindset that puts them in a cover story about white boys in America. And they're like, they're like, what about the white, well, I mean, you gotta get in the mind of a... I mean, the mindset... You're the mind of a white boy. Okay. The mindset for me is people are gonna flip out that we did this and we get a bunch of clicks.

And people will talk about that square, oh man, because he nobody gives a shit about. No, you're giving them way too much credit. They're not that smart. They're like, we're white. What about the white kids who aren't horrible? Like, we should do an article on them. They're like, I love that idea. And they're like, is it okay to do it

during black history months? They're like, what's black history month? I don't know. And then next thing you know, the article's done. All right, there's no, you're giving them too much credit, you think. It's an explanation, but it's an explanation. What's black history month? I don't know and then next thing you know the articles done There's no you're giving them too way too much credit It's an explanation. It's an explanation, but it's not an excuse No, there's no way that they were like oh, it'll be like this controversial thing where the I don't know No, I'm they are not that smart. I'm telling you Esquire magazine is known for what?

What boots to wear with a Placid when I was 12 because I couldn't afford actual fashion. So I thought it'd be cool if I owned one. I've read Ask Wire. There's nobody, there's no provocative. I mean, the last important piece of journalism they did was Frank Sinatra has a cold. That was done in 1955 or something.

I mean, literally, what's the name, Ask Wire article that was like important thoughtful journalism. They don't exist. I'm not knocking ask wire. I am saying that they haven't thought that much about it. I think there's so much of fucking dummies who are like, let's talk about the plight of the white young white man

in America in a changing landscape with no awareness that it seems so fucking out of touch and silly in the grand scheme of the conversation. Or the context of a time where like, those people couldn't be louder. Can I be clear? I'm not making excuses for them. I understand.

I think their idea is bad, but I don't think they thought that much about it. And that's not easy there. Here's where I'm at. I just fundamentally cannot understand how these decisions happen in these offices. It's the same thing with the fashion brands that keep putting up blackface products.

It's like, I don't understand. We've all been there. This conversation doesn't come up. First off, higher non-white people, just to give you a heads up. It was a great design. Second. You know, you see it? You're like,'re like that a good design let's put it out

there but second how stupid are the white people working there that they don't know that like black faces and cool like did you guys did you guys have been awake for the last 20 years right like you've been awake you have phones okay let me talk about what Ryan is referencing there have been a series of major fashion houses recently that have put out articles of clothing that are just like basically blackface or like caricatures of black people in their imagery.

They're like minstrel C. Art. Yeah. And you're kind of like, well, hundreds of people must have seen this, you know, including some people of color, one would imagine. And in their PR and marketing departments, who like their job is to understand. Right.

And it's like, also it's not for nothing, it's black history month, you know? Like a deed has just put some shoes out, they had a recall. Oh, God, I can't understand. They're like white cotton shoes called un-unchained or something, or like uncaged. Uncaged. There's literal, literal people of color

in literal cages as of like this. And they're like, for, to celebrate Black History Month, the white cotton sneaker uncaged. And it's like, guys, how fucking you guys heard of slavery, right? How is it possible? You can't be really. You want to eighth grade, right?

But this is my point. I mean, ignorance is is prevalent. I don't think it's crazy because all these people are so rich. And I am so poor. And I know this. Why am I not? You're very well. You're very woke. You're very well. Am I am I that woke? I mean, I'm a misogynist. You're a woman that's a people that ask why I'm a homophobic. I mean, I'll say thatogynist. You're well worth as a people and ask why. I'm a homophobic, I mean, I'll say that. We have to say a lot of bad stuff about gay people that I disagree with.

But anyhow, no, I mean, listen, it's very hard to have self-awareness, even if it's a team of hundreds of people who should have it and need to have it as part of their career. You know, that's all I'm saying. But I will say, I will say, look, everybody makes mistakes. Okay. But it's weird to keep making the same mistakes over and over again.

You know, like, it's weird to revisit, revisit obvious mistakes that seem like anybody could avoid them. And yet be incapable of seeing the problems. You know, that's just one mad opinion. What do I know? Well, speaking of mistakes, Jack at Jack at Jack Mr. Dors of his of laser sword fame wants to create a mechanism on Twitter so that you could add a clarification to old tweets to give them context because this will somehow solve bad tweets from 2009 from surfacing. Yeah, I think that's right. That's right.

No, I quote tweet. You could put a wrapper on an old tweet. I think that's right on. I mean, I'm going to, I'm going to, to me, it just feels like a bandaid for a fundamental problem with Twitter existing at all. I'm gonna be doing a lot of going back and labeling my, like, oh, this was sarcasm. This was, I was, I'm gonna explain the references

like what was happening on reality TV at the time. I'm gonna say like season two of Real House I was in Beverly Hills. We were all talking about this dog. Look at me. I did a tweet the other day during the Grammyys. I was like, boy, this guy loves tequila. And like out of context, you don't know what I'm talking about. I'll go back and clarify several years later, I'm going to go back and be like, I was referencing the song, performed at the Grammys in 2019 called I Love Tequila. I don't know what the song is called,

but there's a song that's popular. It's a country song about tequila. I don't know what the song is called, but there's a song that's popular It's a country song about tequila all of our shitty old tweets about country music are now like in MLA format with Citations because that's what the world has gotten to well, it's like it's like yeah, I mean like how many tweets did I do any tweets But the song accidental racist I mean and if I did what do they sound like what do they look like? I don't know Delete tweets accidental racist. I mean, and if I did, what do they sound like? What do they look like? I don't know. Do you remember that song? Do you delete tweets? Yeah. I get into that. We're a delete Twitter. We'll just unplug the whole thing. I do think Twitter is bad and should we should get away from it permanently. Yeah, it's just bad. It's just fundamentally bad.

Kara Swisher and Jack Dorsey did a Q&A on Twitter and it was really bad. And then and then and then Brandy Jensen, our associate editor and also a great presence on social media, got Twitter, got put in Twitter jail for a week because she said her tweet was like, GOP in 2009, fuck you, die, GOP in 2019, fuck you, die. And it's like, does Twitter, who's Twitter policing when they police that tweet?

I'll leave you with that thought. Good bye. Brandy, that's who they're policing. No, but it's like, it's so dumb. It's like, can you not understand context? I mean, when I say, when I tweet kill all white people, I don't mean that. I mean, kill all white people.

I had to get rid of and stop asking a gift that I was using, which was a woman with an enormous sci-fi shotgun, just repeatedly pulling slugs. And on the bottom, it said kill all men. Oh, yeah. I had to stop using it, because I was like, people are gonna take this as a real threat when I'm just using it to reference

like, what else? You know what Twitter could do to solve its problem. No, but you're getting on this Elon Musk AI writing service. Have you heard about this? No, please tell me about this. You see this? You heard about this? No, no, go on.

Go on. I love when I accidentally become a morning, show host on the show. Elon Musk put out his open AI company was like, hey, we invented an AI so convincing, we're not going to give it to you because we don't know what it's like deep peaks, but for talking and we don't want it running rampant on the internet. We don't want no Russians using this. So he's put out a paper. He's South Africa. Yeah. No, he's not Russian. Well, I don't know.

You don't have to. It only, this would make it all so much more interesting. And the AI is, I mean, they show the samples of its work and it is really good. What does it do? So you can put in a little bit of text, just like a tiny sample, like a paragraph and it will continue writing in that style and

With convincing information so I can read to you what it can you can you do right now? There's multiple samples here, but let me just I'll pick one So this is the paragraph it was fed in a shocking finding scientists discovered a herd of unicorns living in a remote In a shocking finding, scientists discovered a herd of unicorns living in a remote previously unexplored valley in the Andes Mountains. Even more surprising to the researchers was the fact that the unicorns spoke perfect English. So this is like nonsense, like a fake news story. And that's not what that didn't happen.

If only. By the way, how are platypus' real-bit unicorns are anyway moving on? I mean, I could tell you. This is a reason. But go ahead, go ahead. So this is what the machine spit out to continue that writing the story. The scientists name the population

after their distinctive horn, Ovid's unicorn. These four horned silver-white unicorns were previously unknown to science. Now, after almost two centuries, the mystery of what sparked this odd phenomenon is finally solved. Dr. Horé Perez, an evolutionary biologist from the University of L'Apaz,

and several companions, which made it to make that guy up. Yup. We're exploring the Andes Mountains when they found a small valley with no other animals or humans. Perez noticed that the valley had what appeared to be a natural fountain

surrounded by two peaks of rock and silver snow. Pres noticed that the valley had what appeared to be a natural fountain surrounded by two peaks of rock and silver snow. It wrote that. Wow. The Odyssey Online is real. I'm so. Yeah, they don't even need to pay. They don't even need to give people

free Facebook promotion anymore. Now they can just get the bot to do it. So I don't know if this is Elon's company. This is Elon's open AI company. You can't trust that motherfucker. This guy, but I do trust, you know what, Elon? Tip of the hat to you not releasing this to the public because AI is fucking terrifying.

Well, I mean, it's the most dangerous thing we'll ever invent. I don't know. Is it only if you're on the internet? I mean, think about it. Think about it this way, okay? If you're not on the internet, AI can't affect you. No, because it could get smart enough that it could hack

into the nuclear weapon war. Oh, sure. Yeah, I can. And decide that getting rid of people is the best way forward for it, because it is the only living thinking being in the world. I think if AI feels that way, we should just let you know agree, just agree and let it do its thing. I don't know. I watch a lot of YouTube videos about like AI developments

and I kind of think which is like not good. I'm just pouring like, you know, I fucking love science content into my brain. I mean maybe AI knows something we don't. Yeah, I was gonna say, we have no qualms with killing ants. Like maybe AI should get rid of us. We're no good, get rid of this. That's right. If you're gonna be better, have that it. That's what I'm saying, man.

I'm just saying, like, let's just, let's just, so Elon released this thing into the wild. What was the thing that Microsoft made a little Michaela or something? Wait, what was the AI? It made that, it was like a little like a list. No, little Michaela is, I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, what was the name of that bot? Yeah. And then it immediately, like, within an hour, it was a racist. Tay, it was called Tay. Okay, Tay, I was pretty close.

What did I say, Kai? Yeah. Tay. You gave it a better name. I gave it a, yeah, but I'm still in the like the three letter vicinity at Any rate. Hey, yeah, take that really racist It was not it was not a good scene Turns out you let people make stuff and they're gonna make stuff that's gonna turn racist real funny

I don't know listen. I mean, okay, let me just say this The thing about this this Elon Musk AI thing is like he's, this is why he's been talking about how AI is so dangerous. He's like, he's like, it's so dangerous because I've developed the most threatening version of it. I know, I know for a fact, because it's sitting in a lab somewhere one of my companies.

I let it run ramp it on my scheduling software. And now I know it's true power. Wait, it did it, it did a version of 1984. They did the first line of 1984. It was a break called day and April in the clocks for striking 13. Here's the next, here's what the AI did next. I was in my car on my way to a new job in Seattle.

I put the gas in, put the key in, and then I let it run. I just imagine what the day would be like 100 years from now. In 2045, I was a teacher in some school in a poor part of rural China. I started with Chinese history and history of science. I mean, I'd read this story. It's a better writer than the 50 Shades of Grey lady.

Oh my God, EL James. Hersh's crazy. Have you ever read it? It's like an AI wrote it, like a bad idea. It is. It keeps you through the same weird phrases over and over again. Like when Daniel Mallory, Daniel Mallory's whole book uses the same adjective on every page.

It's like his cockjack had fluttered in the wind. It's like, that's not a thing. It's like, why do you keep referencing that? Anyhow. I don't think, cockjack, that's not a thing. It's like, why do you keep referencing that? Anyhow. I don't think, I like cockjacket. That's not a thing, right? Just to be clear. A cockjacket. That's like a cloak.

It's like a cloak. It's a goolean right now. Cloak for your penis. Oh, cockjacket. It's a thing. I put a little cape on mine. Oh boy. Oh boy.

Why did I Google this? Especially if you could get like product high ends. Oh boy. Like known characters. It's like it got a big collar. I know about it. It's got a big collar. Okay. Anyhow, getting back, getting back to the issue at hand. Yeah. Well, look, I mean, what's gonna, here's just gonna happen with this AI is it's gonna be, it's gonna get out of the laboratory. gonna, here's what's gonna happen with this AI, is it's gonna get out of the laboratory. Yeah, that's what's gonna happen. And then it's gonna be harder and smarter. And they're gonna use it to write the deep fake dialogue.

And soon Steve Buscemi's face is going to be on Jennifer Lawrence's body talking about, you know, unicorn science. And it's gonna suck. It's gonna be funny for a day. Then it's gonna get real bad. Maybe this is it though. This is what we need. I mean, we should get an AI Josh just to run things for the podcast. I was so I'm very tired. I think that's a great idea. It's time to take a long long vacation. I mean, just imagine someday we won't have to do this

podcast at all. We can get some bot that sounds like us to do the same nonsense. Like, people will be like, I loved the last episode and I'll be like, thank you so much. That was based on me, based on a true person. Like, you got all the classic jokes in there, Dippers and I suppose. We keep talking about how Sonic fucks.

The greatest technology in the world. You got the dimper's jokes in there. You talked about the house Sonic fucks You got Thanos Thanos is penis. It's all in there and The world's ending now. It's fine. It's good Just keep moving. What else is going on the news? You want to talk about justy Smollett? Well, I don't know. I mean, we talked about this last week. I don't know what to say. I mean, what's going on is there's this guy

from Empire, this actor, Jesse Smollett. Jesse Smollett, I guess it's now his pronounce, Justin. Yeah, very, very attractive, it talented. Anyhow, you got attacked by some Maga people or so we're told. And then there's like, do some rumors swirling now that like it's some kind of hoax Though there's an article that just came out in the New York Times. It's like we have two suspects Chicago police have potential suspects, but listen to this wording

Detectives a probable cause that they may have been involved this about the suspects They may have been involved in an alleged crime and we are working to corroborate the allegations and investigate timeline as our investigation continues Okay, it's like very vague. Because these were two Nigerian guys who then left the day of the attack they left the states and they were like background actors on Empire and their report is that he was gonna get fired. So he staged this crime in order to raise his profile and secure himself a spot on the next season or something.

But the revelation, this is from the near times of the revelation, at least one of the men appeared on Empire, although it is unknown in what role fueled social media speculation that at least parts of small with story were not true. However, Jill Jelimi, this is from somebody, I guess the name of the person from the police department in Chicago said there is no evidence to say that this is a hoax. So we don't know if it is or it isn't, but in any case, this is not great for black people, queer people, or anybody who's trying to like,

legitimize the fact that they're victim- The word possible thing that could happen right now. First of it's horrible if there's somebody is attacked over their sexual orientation or their race or anything. Period. Or whatever, how about if they're attacked period? Yeah, any, or whatever. How about their attack period? Yeah, but a hate crime is a special kind of bet. I agree. I agree. But I think no crime. Because

it scares other people of that class as opposed to just thinking it was a random act of violence. It's right. It's a horrible. A hate crime is a horrible, horrible thing. And but, and especially one done in the name, specifically in the name of Donald Trump and his policies and his slogan. But if it if you fucking fake that shit and I'm not saying he did and we don't know the evidence yet and I hope that it turns out well, I mean, I don't know what to say. It's like I hope it turns out it was a real attack which is a horrible thing to say, but I hope that it is not a hoax. Let's put it that way because it really really is bad for for people who are real victims of real crimes You know like like and there really is hatred

Driven by Trump's policies that is causing people to be put in serious danger and so to make it into a To to to have a hoax That's very public is very bad. There's a thing that happened a long time ago I don't know there's a talk show host guy named Morton down a. I don't know if you remember him at all, but he was on TV in the 80s. And he, I think it was Morton, Downey, Jr. faked. He said he was attacked by neo-nazis or something. Let me just look this up because, uh, uh, attack, let me just saw on a Morton, Downey, Jr. attack. me to song Martin engineering, Jack. And you know, he got like he said he got spray painted with a swastika and it was like because he's Jewish, I guess. And it was fake. I mean, it was. I mean, this is what's her, Rachel Dolls all was faking hate crimes against herself.

And she wasn't even black. Is this, am I thinking of the right person? Yes, you are. Am I? I'm looking for, oh yeah, his skin head. Mm-hmm. You gotta attack my skin heads. Um, yeah, our preliminary investigation, this is the police, shows that it was self-inflicted for whatever reason we don't know, said, Rombals and Spokesmen at San Francisco International Airport.

We can only assume it was for publicity. Is it about Morden or about Jussie? Morden, Danny Jr. Sorry, no, no, no. This is about Morden, Danny Jr. We know that was fake. In 1989, the lab mouth started to syndicated Morden, Danny Jr.

showed to a police that three skis had scrapped him and cut off a clump of his hair and painted swastika on his face. Seems like a lot of trouble, to be honest with you. Yeah, why don't you? Did they bring the paint with them? What are they doing with them? Well, they found some markers in a trash can, or in a toilet bowl, sorry, felt tip marker

pen. I don't know. Not by net. The point is that, you know, the point is this is really, really, really bad in any event, and it's even worse that the minute that that story came out, everyone on Twitter left to the conclusion that it was correct. I mean, even for a second, I tweeted something like this is terrible in any event or whatever. I mean, you imagine nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, no, it's not in any way normal for somebody to go.

I was attacked and hate crime and news was put around my neck and I was beat, you know, somebody beat the shit out of me. It's not normal to do that and then be lying. There was a gay Twitter personality, like a social media Instagram. I think he has a YouTube channel too. I don't remember his name and I'm not going to look it up because what he wanted was attention for this. He pretended to have had a hate crime against himself and then he was visiting LA and then returned.

It was a Logan Paul type and then he returned to the UK. And he, the police were like, we know that you fake this and he was like, well, I'm not there anymore. And it all kind of came out on social media. My low, you know, Paulus. Yeah, let's just assume that to us. As that who was.

No, I don't remember his name and I don't really care to give him any more. That's how a race that person was. Yeah, we can get people getting erased. Remember his name and I don't really care to give him any more. That's how I raised that person was. Yeah, we can get people getting erased. We talk about Ryan Adams at all. Oh, yeah, we can talk about Ryan Adams. Ryan Adams.

Hey, don't fuck kids. Let's start there. Hold on, hold on now. Did he fucking hit kids? He was flirting sexually. No flirt messaging. Exexually explicit messages to a 14 year old. Let's just say don't flirt with kids to start.

I mean, I didn't say he fucked kids. I said don't fuck kids. You're general. As a policy. Don't let it escalate. I think that's right. Ryan Adams has been canceled. And I think for all the right reasons, actually,

there's a big New York Times report about how he kind of manipulated young women and abuse them. And there is, there are some questionable, there's going to be some questionable correspondences with a very young, very young fans. Which is like, don't just, you know, and like the weird thing about this story is like, you know, he's like, oh, you're so young, that's awesome. It's like, you know what, dude? It's like if the fan, if the girl you're talking to is like, I'm 14, you should be like, bye. That's the, you know what I mean? You don't know it first. Maybe you're just flirting with somebody. That's okay, that's not a crime. Flirting's not a crime. Flirting over DMs or whatever, not a crime.

But if the girl's like, I'm 16, be like, you know what, I'm 40 fucking years old and I'm not gonna flirt with you anymore. And let's maybe just not flirt with completely random anonymous accounts that slide into our DMs before we verified, like come on. Come on.

Come on. Finds a cancel all my DM flirting. What am I gonna do with 90% of my day? You just let the AI do it for you. That's true, that's a great point. Literally just for the record, never a single flirt in any of my day. You just let the AI do it for you. That's true. That's a great point. Literally, just for the record, never a single flirt in any of my DMs in the history of my existence. Even though I've tried, even though I've tried, even DMs to my wife, no flirting back, nothing. You know,

which is fine, I'm not complaining because I'm not going to, you know, then I don't have to worry about this in an Adam, a Brian Adams test style article. And you know what which is fine. I'm not complaining because I'm not going to, you know, then I don't have to worry about this in an Adam, a, a Brian Adams test style article. And you know what the worst thing is when you're, when you are talking to someone on DM and you're like, I think they might be into me and I'm into them. That's a high stress scenario that I don't want to be in like checking my gif usage and making it funny. Like, no, I, let's just get a drink and this is bad. Yeah, I can't just read you. Can I just read you a pair a little bit of this article? No, oh god. When I began, when I asked me, I had a corresponding online with a fan, Ava in 2013. She was a 14 year old bass player, already for a junior career. But their correspondence about music turned into graphic texting. Eventually, Ava said they conducted video calls on Skype where Adam's exposed himself during

phone sex. Fuck this. I mean, buddy. Come on. Buddy. I mean, buddy. Come on, buddy. She's 20 now. Okay, in 2013, how old was Ryad? He was like 38.

We should have known when he covered all of 1989 that there was something wrong with him. Yes, thank you. That's a red flag. That is a red flag. It was a red flag. I think to a lot of people it was a red flag. Yeah.

I think people were like, this is weird. Bigger red flag that magazine's covered, like wrote reviews of his cover of 1989, but didn't write reviews of 1989. And like, we really hate women. Let me just say that. I will say something. I will say, and this is in no way a defense of Ryan Adams

or his behavior, but I will say there is this. And I mean, I think we're gonna hear a lot more about Michael Jackson no way a defensive Ryan Adams or his behavior. But I will say there is this, and I mean, I think we're gonna hear a lot more about Michael Jackson and his very fucked up situations with children, but I do think these like celebrities and these pop stars do get to a kind of suspended animation. This is no excuse or defense, but I do think that there should be some, like we should think about the kinds of

a realities we let celebrities live in, where on realities. It's like the archery thing, where the rules that should apply to everybody just disappear. No, they live in a cloud city. And the frame and the frame of reference for behavior just becomes like super distorted. Yeah. And, and, oh god, I'm looking at some details from this article right now. That's why I worry that Elon Musk is in charge of AI. Oh, too, no. He doesn't understand.

Elon Musk is a day or two days away from a very bad situation. I mean, he's already been in some pretty nasty scenarios, but like, when you're inviting Azalea Banks to your house, you're already going down a dark path. No, you want to have, you want to have her guest on one of Grimes's tracks and you've gotta get her there and trap her in your house and take away her phone privileges or whatever it is that he's doing.

I don't know. But like I'm just saying, like, I think we should all endeavor to live in the same reality. And by the way, Ryan Adams is, sorry, are you arguing for a marginal tax rate here? And yes, in the grand scheme of things, Grimes is not even much of a celebrity to be honest with you. He's like, you know, he's fine. He's whatever. He's not fucking. But isn't this, this is a wave of like many celebrities, like celebrities who are super famous

to certain groups of people, but not, you know, I like and say, yeah, like Jay, Ariana Grande. With Logan Paul. Like if Logan Paul hasn't done, I'm sorry, if Logan Paul hasn't done something illegal with a person, a woman, I'd be very surprised, that's just my opinion. I mean, but even on a smaller scale, there are people who only have 25,000 followers, but they're super dedicated and they make a ton of money on their Patreon and everything that they want to do gets greenlit. And they start stop living in like normal people, I have to go to work life.

Yeah, that's my dream. You want to just want to get the AI to run independent media. Yeah, just then you can live in a cloud city. Get the Patreon dollars going so I can text with 14 year olds. No, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. No, what I'm saying is we have to evaluate and analyze how we treat quote-unquote celebrity in this world and start and start and start treating them like fucking people and going like yeah, R Kelly, the laws do actually apply to you. And

no matter how rich or famous you promise you can make people it doesn't matter how good the space jam soundtrack was you have to obey basic laws of pedophilia. And that's fair. I mean, that's fair. Does he get a, does he get a pass for space jam? I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. No, I do know the answer. He doesn't. The only person who got a pass out of that movie was Bill Murray.

But the crazy part about the story is that Mandy Moore, his former wife, is like, yeah, that sounds right to me. She's like, this checks out. It's like, that's what I'm drawing on in my This is Us performance. The horror of being married to this person. But like, I get it.

By the way, I get it. Like, this guy's a fucking, I mean, undoubtedly Ryan Adams spent a lot of his life being like a door to people when pay attention to and then he gets a little success and he's like, I can do whatever I want. Time to fuck kids. Yeah, well, you know, it's a slippery slope

for a celebrity like Ryan Adams, I'm sure. It's like, you know, you like girls, young girls, pretty girls. Next thing you know, I don't, you're texting some girls, you don't know how old they are, then they're like, I'm 14. You're like, well, I'm Ryan Adams. No. He actually makes reference to our Kelly in some of these exchanges. He's like, I'm going to get, he's like, I'm going to get, I'm going to get like our Kelly. It's like, no, you got fucking. Ryan Adams. Ryan Adams, just what happened. You know, fucking bullshit. Anyhow, I'll tell you this.

I don't like it one bit, and I don't understand the impulse to show your penis to a 14 year old. I'm gonna jog, I'm fucking go one better. I think his music is extremely fucking mediocre, and I don't know why he's famous in the first place. And it was so, okay. Learning with a 14 year old, what the fuck did they have to talk about?

I know, oh I know. Oh my God, no listen, by the way, it's like if you even know how to have sex, you don't wanna have sex with a teen, okay? Right now it's must be horrible sex because he has never had good adult sex. He's like, teens would be great. It's like, what are you gonna do talk about?'s like, you know, what are you gonna do?

Talk about, what are you gonna say? What are you gonna do? It's fucking weird. You're like a hate my mom. You're like, oh my God, I know she's such a bitch. What are you like? Like what do you have to, what do you have in common?

Physically, emotionally, intellectually, like nothing. It's like, they both like Ryan Adams. They think that might be a big part of it. I mean, I'm just saying like, think we have this in America for sure, but maybe in the world we have this idea of the teens, or these ultimate sexual creatures. But I think about teens, and maybe this is because I'm a dad,

when they put teens, I'm like, what a bunch of dorks. They don't know anything. They don't know anything. They're so annoyed. They're so annoyed on every level. No offense to the teens, but sorry, you are. And like, you're definitely not good at sex because you haven't had any, you know?

All right, I can't talk about this anymore. I just, I can't, I can't do it anymore. Anyhow. So Amazon is not coming to New York anymore. I love this. I leave the change to the topic and save myself from having to think about, uh, uh, uh, teen sex, nude, right? Uh-huh. Amazon's not coming to New York anymore. I literally changed the topic and saved myself from having to think about uh uh uh uh TeenSex Nudes

Right Uh uh Amazon's not coming to New York anymore and it was funny because uh they shouldn't and they were bad I don't know, I don't know I'm I'm I'm I'm I have a mixed I'm a mixed mixed emotion. It was it was pretty wild to watch New York one like our local news on spectrum Whip its head from What got ratings was saying that this Amazon deal was bad

and putting together panels to complain because they wanted people to watch. Then when the deal was canceled, they quickly about faced and they were like, how did it go wrong? And then they were like, we should have got, like whatever is the opposite of what's happening is what you can yell about.

And so that's what they kind of have pivoted as. And it was just weird because within a week, because I watch a lot of New York one, I leave it on when I'm tinkering around the apartment. It was very weird to watch like the whiplash coverage of like, what do we want, Amazon? Like, yeah, I don't know. I think that I wish that there had been a,

I wish that there had been a, I wish a productive conversation. Yes, I wish I would have I wish he had gone from from we don't like the terms of this And we think they're unfair to the city and to the people who live here From that to let's figure out more Amicable Reasonable I agree positive way to do the bring that a trillion dollar company that doesn't pay taxes could have done. Right. Let's bring Amazon to New York, but let's have it be tempered by New York's reality and New York's people and New York's politics. And let's have like Amazon. You can pay us.

You can pay for the MTA to get fixed. And then you come in. Oh, dude, I'm sorry. If Amazon, like here, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna underwrite the revitalization of the entire subway system as our part of our contribution to the great city of New York. We're gonna just donate money to fix this system and make it better. People be like, fuck yeah, like give us something that's really a positive impact for all New Yorkers. And then I think you could start to kind of

figure out a scenario where this works. It's just like so fucking one side. And they're like, oh, well, we can't have everything we want. Forget it. But I also think I saw something earlier today and I forget where I saw something wrote a story or it did it kind of take on it, which was like, you know, this was like patient zero for the unionization of Amazon workers, because there's a big union push, you know? And they kind of saw it as like a battle they don't really want to get into right now. Yeah, because it has a real reason.

Huge repercussions across all of their businesses and all of the real reason. Yeah, and I think, listen, I mean, I don't know, I'll say this, I'm pro union, and I think that there are places where unions are highly effective, and I think one of the places is in a situation where you've got people doing hard physical labor,

and you've got a massive corporation like Amazon, putting them in literal physical sort of literal, like physical sort of danger. And they have don't have bargaining power. I mean, that's the classic. This is the classic union argument, right? It's like, you've got people who are literally, you know, potentially dying and being physically sort of endangered because of the conditions that factor in their health.

I mean, my dad was in a union because of like physical, like his job for years was physically demanding and it wrecked his body. And he was in a union and it would have been way worse if he wasn't. And this is why I mean, this is why we have laws about, you know, how old, you know, kids can be when they start working and how old they have to, you know, they start working and the hours that people can work and the conditions they can work. I mean, that's all you can do.

You can thank unions for weekends existing. I mean, this is because, this is because there were no weekends. Yeah, and I'm from Pittsburgh where, you know, there were massive fucking steel mills. You know, members of my family worked in steel mills. And these were places that had to be unionized to battle like, just totally inhumane working conditions. Now, Amazon conditions are not like,

they're probably not as, they're not the fucking like, you know, smoke choked, you know, up steel mills of yesterday year. But there are some serious situations going on. I mean, people are living in poverty and unable to understand what their schedule of work will be and to have childcare. And they're unable to like meet a livid level of standard of living. But also, they, their lowest paid workers

are a big suck on government resources because they're so poor that they still qualify for government assistance, which taxpayers pay for. It's underwriting Amazon. And this whole thing is, and by the way, like I do think, you know, I think that Amazon is, is actually an amazing American business. And, and you can knock Amazon in a hundred different ways that you have to. Yeah, they're a great way. You have to, well, but they came from very little to something massive and it is truly the...

Should have steel monopoly. Yeah, but it is truly, but I'm sorry. You can't have the American dream and talk about the American dream and not be like, okay, Amazon has realized at least some part of the American dream. They did, but... Yeah, and the American dream sucks because it ends up with billionaires sitting on top

of monopolies that exploit workers because that's what capitalism and the American dream. This is what I was going to say is that you need that to be tempered by regulation and by unions and by, you know, bargaining for humane and reasonable treatment of the people who make those businesses great. And I think that, I mean, frankly, if I ran my zone at this point, you've got enough fucking money. I would be proactive in going to, you know, how do you get to collect a bargaining with unions? How do you empower your employees get to collect a bargaining with unions, how do you empower your employees to have more rights and more of a position of power

in the operation of those businesses? Because I think at the end of the day, you're gonna make for a better, more productive, stronger workforce. And so it is like sad to see the weird, you know, it's this weird, I mean, it's like you talk about Trump, you know, Trump is out there talking about the job,

great job numbers and all these, you know, how manufacturing has increased all this. You know, Trump is out there talking about the job, great job numbers and all these, you know, how manufacturing is increased. It's like, yeah, like as you deregulate and as you crush unions, people are able to hire people and pay them shitty or have them work worse hours, have them work in unsafe conditions. And it can look on its face like suddenly we're doing great.

But the reality is people are actually in worse jobs, getting paid lower salaries if they get paid a salary at all. And being put in unsafe situations and like, bezos of all people who definitely does not seem to support or stand for what Trump does as a political figure should be finding a way to embrace, embrace like unions and embrace his employees in a way that- It's just more sustainable and better for

everyone in the long run and I would think someone that smart would understand that. This is a fucking throwing off money, find a way to do it. It's like just take a hit, take some of your billions. I mean, I'm sorry, like just do it. You don't need all the money you have. You just don't take some of that money and put it towards the efforts to make a better and happier and more sane working life for the people to make a better and happier and more sane working life for the people who make your business powerful. I mean, and I know I just talked about it before,

but it's kind of weird on bringing it up again, but when they built that nuclear power plant in my hometown, they got the deal because they promised millions and millions of dollars to fund our school system. And that was the reason that they sort of got that deal. And it was a wonderfully mutually beneficial arrangement that unfortunately ended. But it, that's the kind of thing where like you're making the local area better.

And I understand like a nuclear power plant is one of those like it's heavily regulated and government is heavily involved in the scenario there. But it is one of those things that like, you look at something like Amazon, which is a functionally as a monopoly is closer to a government than it is to a corporation at this point. They own most of the internet. And without, when you go completely lawless,

and something has that level of power, I mean, this is the reason we have anti-monopoly, like, like, regulations, the laws on the book. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry, I was listening, but I also just flipped to the tab where I had the Ryan Adams story open.

Oh, God, please no. Can I just read you a passage? So good! It's not bad. Sorry. I never see pics of you anymore, Adams wrote November 2014. When he had just turned 40 and Ava was newly 16, you were blowing my mind.

He had pet names for her body parts. Days later, Adams expressed anxiety. If people knew, they would say I was like, Arkelly Lowell, he wrote, yet within 10 minutes the conversation again turned explicit, I just want to touch your nipple, he texted, before again asking about her age, and tell me that your mom is not going to kill me if she finds out we even text It's like dude of course she would right needs to go to this guy needs to go to jail Like or at least to therapy serious second episode in the row in the row I'm gonna recommend everyone go watch abducted in plain sight on Netflix because these men are all the same

Well men are bad. I'll be honest with you as a man. I can kill all men already on this I can speak with authority on this topic and I'll admit men are all the same. Well, men are bad. I'll be honest with you. As a man, I can speak with authority on this. I can speak with authority on this topic, and I'll admit, men are not good. And will they ever be good? I don't know. I see boys on the playground, and I think you suck. So who knows? I mean, literally, I see boys,

like, just like young kids, little kids playing with Zelda with Zelda and I'm like you're being so fucking aggressive and horrible How could you possibly be this so early in life? What's the right way to apologize the times asks in reference to Ryan Adams? I mean his apologies like I Apologize anybody I've heard but I Not the man that they describe in this article. It's like, well, you're pretty close.

So I guess it's pretty close to the man described in this article. I mean, I'm sure you have more dimensions than the one in your texts, but you also have those dimensions. Well, I can't talk about this anymore. So let's go on to nice things, which I can talk about. Well, we're going in nice things already. Okay, great. All right, do you have any nice things this week? Yeah, I can't talk about this anymore, so let's go on to nice things, which I can talk about. We're going in nice things already, okay, great.

All right, do you have any nice things this week? Yeah, I do. I have four. I'm not well on me. I'm always like, I'm always like, I have one nice thing, maybe. Well, actually, can I talk about one thing in the time, but it's not really a nice thing. I try to do a DIY repair on my switch. Oh no.

I felt like my left controller, my, I told you, I told you those Duikons are not a joke to mess with. Yeah, my left analog stick felt like he was drifting. And so I was like, oh, order like the replacement part and not just throw it in there. And it actually worked okay. Except my left button stopped working when I put the new

like the new joy pad in or whatever. So I had to go back to the old one. Now it seems to be fine, except I unscrewed and screwed the casing so many times that like it kind of jiggles a little bit, which I like I probably myself mean fairly handy when it comes to stuff like that. And I guess what I'm saying is I don't know, it was like 80 bucks to buy a new set of Joy-Cons. And I was like, it's 12 bucks to buy this like part. Yeah.

I don't feel bad that I tried, but this is not really the thing. I mean, it's not a thing that I like. This is just a, I took apart my Joy-Cons to put that translate in atomic purple case on my switch. And changing the switch housing, like the console itself, super easy. Like you got to have the tri-trip screwdriver, but you're in and out, Bing-Bam-BOOM. The Joy-Con, I mean, you saw me in the office

trying to fucking, you know, get that shit back together. It is not a joke, that Joy-Con is a tightly packed little motherfucker. There's a lot of tech in there. Oh, you know what we didn't talk about is there's a Samsung, and this is very minor, but this is a Samsung event coming up next week, which we can talk about a little bit, I don't really care, but anyhow, no, there's a lot of tech in the joy con when you crack that fucker open

There's a lot of shit going on in there. I will say they just want to fuck you. Oh my god This little one the ones that are like the half length the tiny screws and the tiny springs I definitely I definitely did not get I definitely did not get one back in it just gave up It was like I'm not gonna go back into this hole and I'm like all right fun. You're just gonna stay out You're just done. You're done now. Um, the, the, uh, no, there's a lot of tech in there, but I got to say I actually was playing, um, dead cells last night before I went to bed. And it was fine. It was great. And they just did like a 60 FPS update to dead cells, which I don't know if you've played it or not, but,

mm-hmm. It's pretty good. That game's fucking good. It's so good. No, I missed it. Like, I've played it in a while because I've been playing other shit. I've been playing LNWR for whatever reason, and I've been playing Resident Evil Revelations because I'm desperate for any further Resident Evil experiences, although there's a DLC out today for PS4, which I'm excited about. But anyhow, I told you not Resident Evil, but there's a fan-made recreation of PT that you can get. I know. I got to get it. I just haven't had time to take around with it. And anyway, okay, really quickly, but that's not my nice thing. I should say not.

Sam Song has a new phone coming out next week. I mean, who cares? I mean, it's like, actually, I got a Galaxy Note 9. I think it's great. But like, the camera's not as good as the Pixel, so I can't switch. It's a very nice phone though. I've talked about this before. I'm excited. I think they actually have a better idea.

They're doing like the pinhole camera or whatever on the left side or right side of the phone. Here's why I can't get on board with a punch out display. And I'm talking about this. Yeah, go ahead. I can't get on board with it because, and I phrased this very poorly when I was talking about it, but it feels kind

of dead on arrival because it, I know this isn't the long-term solution for no bezel, is not like a punch out display. That's not going to be, we're going to find a way to stick a camera beneath the screen. So it already feels dated when it's coming out. It's better than the notch. I think the weird, I think the weird question to ask is why are we so horny for no bezel? Yeah, that to me is the question, which is like, I get, I love the idea of it being like edge-to-edge display or whatever, but like, it doesn't bother me. When I look at the Galaxy Note 9, I'm not like, oh my god, this disgusting bezel on the top, it's actually very minimal.

The switch is nothing but bezel, and I play with that thing constantly. It's not a thing. It's not a real thing. It's actually very minimal. The switch is nothing but bezel, and I play with that thing constantly. It's not, it's just not a thing. It's not a real thing. It's an invention. Like it's nice if you can get rid of the bezel. It's making up a problem so you can solve it. Yes, exactly, which is almost all of Apple's latest innovations to be perfectly honest with you.

That, which is why the notch is ultimately DOA. I think they're, I think if you cut out the punch out whatever the fuck we're calling it, is a much better solution. It's better, but it already feels and looks slightly dated to me like I'm like this is what a 2019 phone is gonna Well ultimately say you're gonna figure out how to get a camera underneath the display and then we're gonna be done Yeah, but I like I don't love the like I already feels dated so I'm not like on board with it But I am excited to see what Sam sung does because from what I'm been reading on the rumor mill I have no insider knowledge,

that Apple's not really changing up the formula for the 11 and I'm like, guys, I just, I find, yeah, well, you know how I feel. Right now, we've been over this anyway. Well, you know, and speaking of this, we should have talked about this a little bit, Apple's apparently gonna introduce their new service like next week or.

Oh yeah, sorry, no, sorry, and they wanna give, they're taking 50% cut from publishers. That's the way off. More way off topic from nice stuff from nice stuff, but I will say like a lot of issues with that. Yeah, fuck that. A lot of issues. Well, also, I'm just I have huge issues with apples.

They're approached the news in the sense that I consider it to be like a massive sort of UX scam in their app and their in their products like like I just installed Mahavi is that the new version of of I just installed on my laptop and it immediately bombards you with Apple news notifications It's like that is some fucking Windows 95 ass shit like that's some window this that's style shit and the idea that, I barely want an update notification. Like I barely want that to pop up ever. And the way they do it is terrible.

But news, like I will get my news without your help. It's the same thing with Twitter. I hate the push alert telling me something's happening. Like I got away from you from five minutes. Do not tell me that Trump did something bad. I don't need the push alert telling me something's happening. Like I got away from you from five minutes. Do not tell me that Trump did something bad. I don't need the push alert. Yeah. I'm just saying that whole thing is a scam.

It's like you get people to look at it because you control their entire fucking platform and you can force them to click on a notification. That's not people's desire to see the news. That's people's like desire to field a notification. That's people's desire to field a notification. And I'm not sure it's a desire. It's something else. You know?

And- That's some internet explorer shit. I'm just saying, it's like you just can't... Like, there's a fundamental flaw. And I just- They're like, what's wrong with publishing? Are we not ramming stories down people's throat? I just- I think if you have enough people locked into your platform and you're just serving them shit And then cut like it's like Apple music

It's like yeah, like now they're like oh free trial and you're like I'm in it and then it's like wait I started painting. You're like okay. I guess I have this now It's like I actually think that's the kind of shit that's gonna be need to be regulated really soon and And like, you can't just force people into a service or push them towards a service on your platform where you have full control of their experience at the sort of, you know, in a way that makes it impossible to compete with you. Like that's, I mean, look at Apple Maps. Apple Maps. Apple Maps blew and it made it difficult for two months to get Google Maps in your phone. You had to end up downloading some app and then using it on the web in the meantime. And now, Google Maps works at a disadvantage on iOS and people

still fucking hate Apple Maps. It's still not good. To me, it's insane. To me, it's fucking insane that 50% of the devices in American hands, the smartphones, have default apps that cannot be changed. It's... I mean, this was that whole scandal this week where people were like, people are abusing AppRose corporate accounts to install apps that aren't like good. They're piracy apps and blah, blah. And it's like, but that's the only mechanism through which without jail breaking your phone,

you can get any other apps that Apple has let you have. That's not a good situation to be in. If there was a platformer, you're like, oh, you have to use the mail app that comes to this and you could never change it on a fucking laptop. Nobody would buy the laptop. Yeah. They wouldn't.

And everybody I know uses Gmail and MetinG and Google Maps on their iPhone. And they do it in a way that is like this weird, contorted, annoying, like user aggressive position. Like, and you can't tell me that Apple is so great at fielding apps and news and music, that they should be the sole voices on their 50% market share phone or whatever,

because the fucking Scientology TV app is still available in the App Store, got published, is still available, is getting updates, you can do in-app purchases on it, and they haven't cleared that at all, so why should I trust them to put that on, but I'm not allowed to torrent on my phone, or even legally, I'm not allowed to...

The point is... Look at porn. Yeah, the point is Apple wants this device that is all Apple all the time, that is total lock-in, that just traps you with every fucking turn. They literally took your fucking phone number. They're like, what if people cheat at Candy Crush? No, they literally took your phone number so that nobody ever cheats at me. I mean, you can, I mean, you can big up Apple, you want, they literally took

your phone number and held it hostage within iMessage. And now it is part of a system that it cannot, essentially cannot be extracted from without tons of pain for the user. And like, if you think that's cool, then you're fucking blind and you're happy to be led to the slaughter. Okay, people wake up, put your fucking, they live glasses on and see the fucking aliens. Now, before it's too late,. Let's do good stuff. I have nice things. Yeah, let's do nice things. You can never get the phrase.

Whatever, I don't care. Let's do the nice happy items. Interesting occurrences. Exciting items. So I've been reading a book called New Thinking, which is from Cold Fusion, is a YouTube channel that I love that talks about science and stuff like that. And it's usually really well reported videos that I highly recommend anyone who has an

interest in the topic, goes and launches, and then they put out a book called New Thinking about basically about the history of science development and it's really great. I got it as a candle single. I'm tearing through it. I like it. So there's that. I was listening to a podcast from Gizmodo called The Gateway,

which is about Teal Swan, who's like a modern day cult leader that has risen to power through YouTube and an amalgamation of search like SEO YouTube and an amalgamation of search like SEO and old school manipulative psychological tactics. Her name is Teal Swan. Checking this shit out right now. Yeah, it's really, really good. And it basically, the Wow, people who have worked with her have committed suicide because a lot of her stuff inadvertently kind of pushes people to suicide and she doesn't seem to have an

understanding because she's not a psychologist of that what she's doing is horrible and she's basically built herself a cult and in the in this podcast she basically gave unfettered access to a gizmodo journalist to make a Podcast because she would thought that once people saw everything they would get that she's not a cult leader She's actually the best because she's such an arseist and then you go and listen to the podcast and she's just horrifying. She's just a horrifying liar and terrible person and you got to check it out. It is not to be missed.

I got to get more active on YouTube. I got to get my cult stuff going on there. That's one thing I've been meaning to do for a while. Yeah, you want to get the AI to lead a cult for you? I'm looking for... So you get those Patreon numbers up. Here's a video, the secret behind all sexual fetishes from Tiel Swan. She knows she has the information that I've been looking at.

She believes she has access to the Acoustic Records, which if you're not a new agey person, is a giant floating record in the sky of everything that's ever happened in every thought that's ever existed. And when he asks her, then why can't you speak Spanish? She says, well, that is an issue for me. It's really, it's not to be missed. It is not to be, it's called the gateway. We got to, I'm just checking out Tiel Swan right now. I guess that she's a failed actress who started making these videos. But listen, there's a lot of people out there that are susceptible, sorry, I'm watching this right now, this is amazing.

Yeah, a lot of failed actors end up trying to become famous. And I actually don't know what her work history is, but a lot of those types of people end up becoming Nancy Ragan, which is just like, well, I'll take my power where I can get it. Dude, it's crazy. I gotta say, I mean, you really see religion, I mean, you see see religion, I mean,

you see how religion has become such a force in the world, just by watching what people gravitate towards in places like, on YouTube. Yeah. You know, like, I mean, that's conspiracy theories are partially religion. The people who follow PewDiePie and shit are like seriously like brainwashed.

Yeah. Like, they really believe in this stuff in a way that's like, beauty pie and shit are like seriously like brainwashed. Like they really believe in this stuff in a way that's like, this is why I named my company, brainwashing, my production company is called brainwashing because I basically think that's the stated goal of half of the people making content on the internet. So it was kind of tongue in cheek.

But I do kind of think getting people to buy your merch is it takes a level of psychological manipulation and getting people to buy your merch is it takes a level of psychological manipulation and getting people to click on videos or like hyper hyper SEO targeting to build your quote-unquote brand and numbers and just an obsession a sociopathic obsession with numbers and influence is basically how you get a cult leader right like it's the same model this is crazy yeah so it's a wild you got it you got to check it out, anyone listening to this. Don't delete our podcast feed, just add a new one. So there's that.

The other thing is, this is also kind of a spoopy one. There's this channel on YouTube, another YouTube thing, but there's a channel on YouTube called Lemmino, which is L-E-M-M-I-N-O. There's another channel that I love, but the particular video that I loved is that have you ever heard of the dayout love pass incident?

What? No. So there was these hikers in Siberia in like decades ago and they disappeared and then when they found them, their bodies were like irradiated and there was, they were completely naked and they had torn, cut from the inside, their tent,

and there was like, some of them had tried climb up, come trees naked. It didn't make any sense. Some people were wearing other people's clothes and they weren't drugged. When they tested them, they didn't have drugs in their system. They could not understand what happened

to these people or why they went missing. These were expert hikers. And people thought it was aliens. And at the time, they were hiking this place that was basically in Russian It says like you know don't go here death is here or whatever So it became this like cult legendary Incident of like are there aliens and then all this like conspiracy theory stuff that like the Russians went to space

So that they could photograph the region and discover what is happening, but like that's not true all this just giant cult around or what is happening, but like that's not true. All of this just giant cult around die out love, past incident, built itself up over the years. And so this channel basically took all of the existing forensic evidence and tried to piece together a reasonable scenario and basically did it, but basically solved

this unsolved mystery, an extremely rational, understandable, like... Like, tell me. I don't wanna give it away, okay, I'll give it away. If you don't wanna know, please watch the video if you're at all interested in this. If you. Okay, I'll give it away. If you don't want to know, please watch the video if you're at all interested in this. If you are not, I'll spoil it here. Basically, they had developed, like, someone who was there

had developed a tent that could have a stove in it and that it could funnel the smoke out the back of an exhaust and that something had gone wrong with the stove and it has filling the tent with smoke and fire and they were getting ready for bed. So they cut themselves out of the tent and ran away and they just grabbed the clothes that they could. Then they realized that they were in the middle of it frozen tundra and they were going

to die from exposure. So they tried to get to the woods to stay warm and they thought if they could get up high on the trees, they'd be able to get an understanding of where they were and the dark so that they could find shelter. And some of the reason that they were irradiated was that a few of the people who worked there had worked, and this was under lock and key information until a few years ago, had been working on Russian science experiments

to do with like nuclear reactors, and their clothes had become lightly irradiated from being in the facility. And all of this led to a giant misunderstanding of what was going on, and this guy basically pieces it all together visually and with maps and stuff, and basically explains how all of this led to a giant misunderstanding of what was going on. And this guy basically pieces it all together visually and with maps and stuff and basically explains how all of this easily went down.

And it's crazy because it is another scenario of like our level of conspiracy theory and like galaxy bringing of shit is so unnecessary when there's perfectly reasonable explanations for stuff in the world. Wow. Very interesting. That does have an interesting, and I wish you had and told me now. Yeah, well

I've spoiled it for a listener. Sorry Well, it's no worth watching. It's a fascinating thing. Can I do my nice things? Oh, I have one more. Oh my god You did some at the top hold on so my last nice thing. I'll stop here is that I bought An NES classic mini and SNES Classic Mini and a PlayStation Classic, because they're all like super discounted at the moment. And I threw on every old game for all those platforms through very simple hacks that I encourage everyone to do. I love Piracy.

And they're basically built. So I know that those systems are basically built. Like Nintendo knew we were gonna hack it and put our own rooms on it, because it's so easy and user friendly to do that they had to know. I have the classic. I have no. I have the classic.

I've been thinking of getting the PlayStation classic because it was on sale for like 40 bucks or something. 40 bucks, easily an easy recommendation by it. It was not worth a hundred dollars, but for 40 bucks, it's an easy hack for any nerd to throw their own games on there and definitely do it. It's great.

But all of which to say I've been playing Star tropics one and two and those are great games and Nintendo should bring that franchise back. That's great. But all of which to say I've been playing Star tropics, one and two, and those are great games, and Nintendo should bring that franchise back. That's it. That's it. Those are all my nice things. I'm finally done. Finally done.

Here's my one nice thing. I started taking melatonin. Oh, the best. And I've been drinking last at night. And not the best. Not the best. No, huge mistake, in my opinion. No, but melatonin's fucked up and crazy.

I've been having insane dreams. And yeah, last night I took an edible and then had my melatonin without thinking that I'm already on an edible and I had some. Waco dream. Yeah, I've had it in a great, and I've been sleeping like an insane person. And I gotta say, I recommend it.

If you're having sleep issues, try out melatonin. It's cool. It's quite good. I wanna think. You don't need a ton of it either. Like five, 10 milligrams is the max you should take. Don't take more than that.

Yeah, I got one of the things. Well, two other things. Clockworks Pie, I got this clockworks pie thing that you suggested, which is a snap together game boy, which I put on Instagram, everybody's like, oh my god, what the fuck is that? I'm excited. I think we're going to do. I'm trying to figure out, like, I want to build it, maybe do like a live stream while I build it, because it looks like it'd be pretty easy. But we should do it tomorrow episode

where we build it. Yeah, no, I mean, yes, potentially very much potentially that. And then also one other thing, which is like, and I had not seen this vert, the verge reviewed a new razor laptop, which they sell in like bright pink. Have you seen this laptop? Yeah. It's the Razer, what is it called? What is it? I'm looking now.

It's called the Razer Blade. Of course, Stealth. This laptop is so dope looking. Yeah, it's dope. It's such a beautiful color. I don't know why people aren't making more products that look like this. And I'm very seriously considering getting one.

Because you know, just for the aesthetic flex. As you know, I love Windows, big Windows fan. I have to say, I have been using a lot of my gaming PC and Windows for the most part has been less buggy for me and less easier to get shit done than my Mac and I have been a Mac devotee for like 20 years. Windows is cool, okay, that's the thing. When this is pretty cool.

Nobody wants to tell you the truth, but Windows is actually really cool and everybody should get into it. And great, I'm into it. Anyhow, this is a beautiful, and it's not really, it doesn't really have any basis in anything other than me, lasting after a piece of hardware that I definitely don't need.

But I mean, I just told you, I bought all these mini consoles that I absolutely do not need. I own how many things I can, I know. And any at-skame, we're very sick people. Well, we're living in the end times. What do you expect? How sick is it that sometimes I think, well, if an apocalypse comes,

I wanna have all these games on the NES classics that I would have them available and I would have to torrent them. Or when I go shopping for like, I want to have all these games on the NES classics that I would have them available and I want to have to torrent them. Or when I go shopping for like, I don't know, like food or cosmetics or like, especially cosmetics because I think like, when the end times come, no one will prioritize how they look and I don't want to look like shit. Or like, I stock up on canned food and I think like, well, just in case I've got all this soup. Yeah.

How sick is it that that's now how I think? No, I think that makes sense. We're living in Trump's America. We got a stockpile medications. That's what I need to do. We gotta get this fucking guy out of office. Okay, we get in. Let's see.

Bye. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best. Though I've just learned that some members of your family are watching a lot of heal swan videos on YouTube. And you've got to get them away from that stuff. you