Tomorrow - 155: 2020 Battle Royale

Episode Date: March 18, 2019

Beto has entered the 2020 race, teens are essentially communicating over Google Wave, rich people are bribing their children's way into college, Jack Dorsey loves anti-vaxxers, and Captain Marvel kind of sucked.  None of this will prevent Josh and Ryan from trying to navigate their way through this strange, strange world. Take an edible, open a pack of Rainbow Twizzlers, and click download. It's Tomorrow's 155th episode and things are getting weird. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to tomorrow. I'm your host Josh Josh Wispolski. Today on the podcast, we discuss Google Wave, Rainbow Twizzlers, and 8 Champ. I don't want to waste one minute. Let's get right into it. Alright Ryan, we're back. We did it. We were late. We're very late once again, but I'm gonna blame the hellacious hellacious hellacious

That award that is a word. I'm very tired. I'm gonna blame the hellacious week that we've all gone through I mean we've just got to start you and I've gone through almost nothing But the rest of the world is going through a lot. Hey, I have a cold We've got to start looking this show for like a Monday afternoon so that it gets up by Saturday We really do and now I'm I'm gonna know listen. know listen, this is, I'm listening to detoxing right now. 12 hours in and I'm part of the detox is going to be getting back on schedule for the podcast. What are your detoxing from?

Being an excessive drinker and partier. Being it. Yeah, I have some vices that I'm trying to leave in the past as of this week once this cold is over Like I'm sure if you go back like six months ago I'm like you're like nice things. I'm like French 75s. It's like well, guess what? I really like French 75s French 75s are champagne with gin and it So you know, it's like it's like um

It's basically like the gummy. It's the gummy vitamin of drinks It's like the gummy, it's the gummy vitamin of drinks. It's like, mmm, sweet, delicious champagne. It's like, actually, there's like a shot of half of gin inside of this. Also, I love whenever alcohol is layered because I was just pictured like, could you put some Yeager Meister in this tequila?

I wanna behave terrible, yeah. No, no, no, no, but I mean, you know, it's like the casual, I've been ping ponging, but actually it was in Portland and I went up to the hotel there and I went to the bar and sorry, I just opened a shelter. It's not a beer, I believe me, hold on, once I'm just gonna sip the shelter one moment.

Mm, mm, it is so cold and refreshing, anyhow. The bartender was like, he's like, what can I get you? I was like, I don't know. he's like, what can I get you? I was like, I don't know. He's like, what do you normally drink? I was like, normally, either a French 75 or a Vesper. He's like, that is super weird. And I, like I think it is.

It's like, what do you normally drink? Like, oh, like scotch. I'm like, what do you normally drink? Like, okay, you need four people in 26 hours to make it. First, yeah, buy a New York. You still make so weird. New York, LA, probably Atlanta are cities where the culture is so specific that when you leave,

you definitely stick out even though you're not weird here. I don't dress weird at all, but when I leave New York, I'm like, why do I dress like a fucking cartoon character? Yeah, that's right. No, I mean, that's right. Listen, by the way, I've been rewatching We've been rewatching Sex in the City, which maybe I'll talk about in nice things. Have I talked about that yet?

I don't know. I don't know if I have, but speaking of, well, I mean, like the outfits of that show were completely insane. I mean, they're actually insane. I guess they've been out of grams. I mean, they are so out of control. I mean, the best though was Carrie in season two,

because they were out of control, but it looked like she just like went to a dumpster and she was like, I'm gonna wear pants as a hat. Oh no, no, no, no, no. I mean, we're in season six and there's a scene where she's wearing, when I think of a pair of shorts, but the shorts are like, they have the pocket part, but like, they didn't have enough material

to cover the pockets or the pockets, like, hang down lower than the short itself. I'm like, listen, by the way, I'm down for crazy fashion. I don't have a problem with it. But what I will say is to your point, I think that like in the context of New York, now they look like an insane, they look like insane maniacs, but they look way less insane in New York than they would. Absolutely. Literally anywhere else except maybe Los Angeles and even then I think there's probably still

some like significant disparity. Yeah, but in Portland, no, I mean, the Portland's like they're like, you know, no shoes, no shirt. They're like no shoes, no shirt, no vaccine, no problem. That's their whole thing. That's a little, that's an original, that's a original joke. I just made right now This is gonna be the second podcast I did today where I will plug Jenny McCarthy body count calm where you can see how many people She's killed fuck Jenny McCarty fuck all anti-vaxxers. I mean, I'm gonna

I'll say this and I'll say this I will say it again anti-vaxxers are a scourge There should be a vaccine you can get to like block out anti-vaxx rhetoric. They should make a thing where it's like, it just blurs the words that are anti-vaxx related. Did in some country just ban anti-vaxx kids from going to the world? Yeah, I believe it was, I wanna say Iceland.

Or no, Iceland banned anybody. I think Iceland just was like, you can't come into the country unless you have proof of vaccines. Good. Yeah, no, it's the shit. I want all people who don't get vaccinated to be completely ostracized from society because they should be,

because they're probably going to infect us with a fucking disease. You mean major texieos shouldn't go on the podcasts of anti-vaxxers? Wow, we're not even, I mean, we haven't, yeah, you wanna talk about that for a minute? I mean, that's, well, you can just, I mean, I don't know, Jack Dorsey, supposedly the CEO of Twitter.

So Twitter, can Twitter even be said to have a CEO at this point? I mean, I question it because there don't seem to be any CEO level news being made by the person in charge. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, they might hide faves behind a tap. Well, you're welcome. Jack, remember what, remember how we were talking about that? And then Kanye was talking about it to Jack

and then now to feature. So it's vicious. I'm just saying Kanye West listens to, he listens to tomorrow. I think it's unusual. I will say this, I will say this. Kanye, you know, was gonna do an album called TurboGraphic 16.

I've been talking about the TurboGraphic 16 for, I'd say about a decade straight on podcasts. And then you get this suggestion of hiding likes and stuff. I don't think Kanye could be a listener. Kanye is loud and crazy. I'm loud and crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Kanye is a Maga hat wearing right wing red pill maniac. You're a Maga hat wearing right wing red-pilled maniac. You're a Maga hat wearing right wing red-pilled maniac. How great would it be for this podcast if I just pivoted to right red-pill pilot. Honestly, it would be really slowly. I mean, I'm not saying I don't enjoy our conversations, but I think that they would be significantly more interesting and crazier if you became extremely red-pilled

Any high on the Jack Dorsey thing. I don't know to say it's like is this a surprise? That he's like went on in his promoting the podcast of a guy who's like a insane anti-vaxxer. I would say That doesn't surprise me. I would say that don't impress me not. Don't impress me enough. Don't impress me enough. Don't impress me enough. Don't impress me enough. Don't impress me enough. Don't impress me enough. Don't impress me enough. Don't impress me enough.

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And by P, I mean, a P size brain. Well, I'll say again, just because someone had one good idea in 2007, does not mean that they should be a target of the world. No, it's insane. No, it's like the Zuckerberg thing. It's like Zuckerberg is like sitting in front of Congress being questioned about whether or not his platform is like a violating free speech or whatever.

And it's like, dude, this guy literally was like, I need to meet chicks. What should I do and made Facebook, stole Facebook from somebody else? It's like, it need to meet chicks, what should I do and made Facebook, stole Facebook from somebody else. It's like, it's not like he is actually trained to do the job he's doing. He just found people with money to let him do it. And like, I guess he's a savvy businessman, maybe.

Capitalism rocks. Capitalism rocks. It's so hard, it is my favorite ban. Capitalism doesn't give a fuck. Capitalism gives no fucks. It's punk as hell. Yeah. I just read this quote from Amy Schumer. She said that it's in this town, it's great to be cool, but even better than being cool is to not care. And that's like capitalism. Totally. It's like, capitalism is not cool because of capitalism. Exactly the same.

Tight. Anyhow. Any same. It's tight. Anyhow, anyhow. Yeah, okay, so but let's actually, I mean, this has been a terrible week. And I mean, we should just say, I was, I was, we were playing with him at this beginning of this, but I mean, it's a horrible insane tragedy

that happened like 24 hours ago in New Zealand. 50, over 50 people now, I think, have been killed by this speaking of like Maga Hat wearing red-pilled maniacs like obviously he's not a Maga guy because he's Australian or whatever. The shooting was in New Zealand. I assume that everybody knows but there was a massive shooting, mass shooting in two mosques in New Zealand and a lot of people are dead and the person who did it is a like basically a gamer gay guy,

I would say, like he basically is like a 4chan bro. Yeah, I mean, you know the scary thing is like I'm talking about it and like I am sitting here going like, oh, like these, like a person like that could like come from me. Like that's real now. Like if you just talk about them, like you go on a list somewhere, you know?

But like, so two things about this one is If you look at the statistics on white supremacy and white supremacist terrorism it is like a map. I mean, I mean, I think literally there I I just, I retweeted a stat that was like every death, every terrorist related death in 2018 in America was a white nationalist, white supremacist. And you know, this is a white supremacist who's been indoctrinated by like being on like 8 Chan and the wrong Reddit for wrong

Reddit or whatever. But a lot of people, particularly the guys from Charlie Warrzell who used to be a Buzz Feedin' is now at The New York Times, unfortunately, for all of us. And Joe Bernstein, who are literally literally, these are guys who literally have, it sounds like when they start talking about the stuff they are sexually aroused, they're so excited to know something about these. And a bunch of people were writing about this,

this guy is the social media killer, this guy's attack was made for, it's like, no, here's the thing. This guy hated. This guy hated. Like, licking of chops over this. Yeah, no, no, no, they're literally like salivating and so excited.

It's like, okay, have you ever watched the Weather Channel when there's a big fucking storm coming? People on the Weather Channel, the people on the Weather Channel, who are ostensibly like we're supposed to believe are like news people get like, they get fucking horny for the destruction. They really do.

Like when they hear that there's a massive hurricane bearing down on the Gulf region, there is like a horningness to the voices of the people on that show. It's like when CNN's covering a tragedy or an election or whatever. I mean, Wolf Blitzer's never horner than an election night, you know?

It's like, that's the way these people sound. And here's the thing, like, yes, this guy was 28 fucking years old and was indoctrinated into like white supremacy by reading shit on the internet, but at the core of his fucking murderous argument, it's the same, there is no nuance necessary. He got convinced that brown people and Muslim people are a danger to white people, and so he killed a bunch of them because he's fucking insane. And like, and like, yes, he got radicalized in a different way than reading the protocols of the elders' Zion, but radicalization is not a new thing.

I mean, Hitler radicalized a fucking entire country. And so yes, we should be worried about the means of radicalization, and yes, the tech platforms need to do something way fucking more dramatic to curb Like sort of accidental radicalization, but like But they're so good at doing it when it comes to like ISIS or something that is traditionally seen as a threat like some kind of other Well, they do a really good job of keeping petafile That's because that's because that's because reasonable white men in Invests are like this is free speech.

And like everybody's like, oh, well, another reasonable white man, maybe not wearing a vest that Twitter is like, strokes is go-t and is like, mayhaps they have a point. And because they wear the face of the establishment. That's what they are the fun. Are you kidding me? We have a fucking white supremacist

in the highest office in America. It's like un, it is unquestionable. There is, I mean, I just saw a stat today, I think somebody said that white supremacy related crimes are up like 183% year over year or something, or in 2018 or in, it's like, this is not an accident. The shit that everybody on the campaign show is like, Trump just speaks his mind.

That was the white people, a lot of the white supremacists or the people who were like kind of felt it in their hearts, but we're afraid to say it because gosh darn it Obama had been president. Um, it's their permission slip. And now everybody has fucking permission. And and everybody's like, well maybe we shouldn't hear them out. It's like, but that's the thing is that a lot of these people, the people that get all this heat and then everyone's like, oh, I don't even want to name names, because I don't want to promote these people any further.

But like, oh, that celebrity or that YouTuber or that professional comedian, they only used a bad word or said this thing that you don't like to do. Oh, Pewdiepie, but there's a bunch of comedians like this. Logan Paul. Shake Paul. The Pauls.

Yeah, when you start dabb pop, lol, the Pauls. You dabble. When you start dabbling in that, it's permission. So you say the N word, you make some Nazi arguments. Suddenly, it's like that white power signal. It's sort of thing. Yes, do, listen, the back side. I watched, I watched a recent episode of PewDiePie's show. I watched a few minutes of it.

And it occurred to me. So annoying. No, but it occurred to me. It was very clear like if you don't have your fucking blinders on it It made this was a thing that actually made me feel really scared and sad Dude is 100% red-pilled 100% I mean all you need to do is listen to him speak and you can hear how fucking red-pilled He is he is basically towing trumps talking points, okay? Like if you're a fan of PewDiePie and you do not hear it, there's something wrong with you. You are also

potentially towing those same fucking talking points. I mean, he rails and rails and rails against me. Oh, yeah. No, the whole media. You're a fucking billionaire. Like, if you're gloating, if you're gloating over, if you're gloating over media layoffs and you're towing the line of the fucking daily caller and, you know, bright part of it. Where to code? Yeah, yeah. I mean, you are part of the fucking problem and you are absolutely a repeating machine for essentially white supremacist or white supremacist adjacent talking points.

I'm like, that's just the reality. Like, the whole thing is, I mean, this shit is actually all connected. Anyhow, getting back to this fucking guy. So, like, yes, so I do think tech platforms have an insane responsibility that they have neglected. And we've seen this a time and time again. And we see it with YouTube on fucking kids videos.

We see it with YouTube on fucking science videos. We see it with YouTube is obviously a huge fucking problem. But like that's to say nothing of like the chance of the world, all of which I don't even know where you've been dealing with. I mean, you basically are now getting into, but where you pick in with like, I mean, you basically are now getting into, but now you're in like, you're in like, soba territory, you know, you're like, do you just fucking cut it off at the, at the fucking server level? Are you

just like, just Verizon go like, yeah, you know what? H&N may not be contributing to the overall discourse that we're into. Like, at what point are you like, oh, like actually, we don't want Nazis to get the thing like we don't want Nazis to connect with each other You know like the fucked up thing about the internet and I wrote about this a little while ago And I'll keep referencing my death of the internet post But it is like so crazy that all the academics who created the internet couldn't imagine a world where non-academics used it They were like will I'll be sharing our Philosophical ideas with each other over electronic mail and it's like actually what will happen is some fucking neo-nauties will start a

fucking forum, death cult, where they can get 13-year-olds to start thinking about maybe black people are inferior in some way and here's some science to prove it, and you're checking out this fucking huge PDF. Well, no, I mean, it's obviously a junk and bullshit. I know. I know. We're just in a place in the world where I'm going to... Yeah, yeah. Okay.

I think I'll let me just preface anytime I suggest that there's any science-backed theories on the vaccines are bad for you or that some race that's different than white has a, you know, is less special or whatever. It's obviously, let's just blanket statement garbage. Yeah, it's all fucking. Sorry about that. But the point is, anyhow, the point is that, so tech companies, of course, have responsibility,

but the question becomes like, what is the responsibility exactly? Like, like, yes, obviously, I mean, you can find obviously racist things. There is a huge gray area where there are like people like the Jordan Peterson's of the world and the intellectual dark webbers who are like, making arguments that are essentially bell-curvis.

So they're like latently racist or under the undercurrent of racism or it's a bit of a dog whistle, but like, you know, you have to be a dog to hear it, right? And I think that, you know, look, that shit's dog to hear it, right? And I think that, you know, look, that shit's gateway. I mean, it's gateway. I mean, PewDiePie, I was a good example as a fucking gateway drug. Like, he's red-pilled as fuck. I guarantee fucking to you, you go down a little bit of a rabbit hole on PewDiePie's recommended videos. And it's pretty, it's a pretty

short walk from hearing him talk about, hearing him glowed about media layoffs and talking about how the fake news to you're watching, you know, some shit about how the Jews, you know, have an iron grip on all media. I don't know how. The thing that I, I mean, the thing that I think about with like cutting all of this off in some sort of way that I don't know that I wanna go down, oh, start going down a path where we trust like media companies.

Where we trust internet companies or ISPs or the government with deciding what websites we shouldn't shouldn't have. I know I don't want to go down that path. And yet, sometimes I just remember the fact that multiple TV carriers, like direct TV or spectrum, whatever, carry this Scientology propaganda channel. And at a certain point, they don't give a fuck because if you don't watch it, you won't watch it,

and they're gonna take the money from Scientology because they are just cravingly trying to make as much money as possible. And they don't have enough We'rewith-all in responsibility to literally pull a literal cult's channel. Right. And I don't know. Well, you know, you say that.

You say that, but there's a lot of arguments against it being a cult. I mean, there are plenty of people who can make the argument. I'm not saying, I'm not. There's arguments against Jordan Peterson and PewDiePie being white supremacists, but they are. Well, they're, let's just say that they've been enlightened by a red pill. But then the flip of that is right to your point. Then you're like, do I want Mark Zuckerberg trying to figure this out?

It's done a horrible job with it. What stops radicalization? what actually does stop this? I mean, I do think, there are things I look to with hope. Like Natalie Winn does that Contra Poids channel on YouTube and she has had a lot of success with turning white supremacists minds back from the brain. But the problem is, yeah. I don't know how.

Education is the number one. I mean, the reality is education is it. Like you have to get people to stop being ignorant and stop being lied to. And so once they get educated and they see like, what's real, but getting them to what's real or what's true is the problem. And because at the end of the day,

I mean, at the end of the day, this is like, this is a, I mean, I do think it's like, this is a reaction. And I wanna believe, and I've said this for a long time, and I still do sort of at my core believe that this is like, what the demonstration of this is, is like the death throws of this kind of like, white centric, Eurocentric, like worldview

that we've been living in for a really fucking long time. And I wanna believe that this is kind of like the death rattle of it, and the death rattle is obviously gonna be fucking ugly. But, but you know, how to police it or how to stop it is like a, is a, is a mystery that, no, certainly I'm not going to unravel and certainly not in the time a lot of this podcast.

But, but the one thing I wanna come back to a little bit is like, so I do believe it's important to understand where these ideas come from and where they build steam and speed and where there are communities of people who are participating in them. But I think it's really, really important. This is what annoys me about some of these like

armchair profilers who think that because they've been on 8chan and been in down the fucking rabbit hole and have studied the origins of the Pepe meme that somehow that is like actually explaining what is happening because it fucking isn't. Like that is that is like. I need another piece about like Q&N on conspiracy theorists acting like they fucking understand the world.

This is like, but this is the thing. It's like, it's like the him dropping what are considered modern day memes or like little wings to internet communities is not, is actually not what the story is here. The story is not like this, he made this for the internet. It's like, was he created by the internet? It's like, he certainly lives on the internet

as most of us do now. And that's a story of some interest. But the reality is the core of this is traditional xenophobia, traditional racism, traditional, I mean, I'm guessing lack of mental assistance or mental help for somebody like this mental health care yeah health care mental health care and and so you know and and and by the way and also not for nothing but the ability to buy a bunch of fucking

automatic weapons now i didn't know shit about news elans laws before this happened uh... it turns out news in news elin it's really easy to buy semi-automatic rifles and i would venture to guess if the guy couldn't get the fucking semi-automatic rifles a lot for you, a way fewer people would be dead right now. Like, they disarmed his fucking shitty ass bomb that he made, you know what I mean? Yeah.

So, like, I do think that at the root of it, I just saw a video about Beto, which I know we're gonna talk about Beto a little bit, talking about gun control in Texas. And I'm sorry, but like do need to just get some brass tax shit going on here instead of being like, but he was red-pilled on Forchan. We could also be like, yeah, but he bought five fucking AR-15s. And that sucks, and probably isn't a good idea.

I mean, we really need to tackle this problem and most problems from both directions, which is brass tax, physically can't get the bullets. And then also we need to create an environment in our school system that like fosters actual education and socialization of people with diverse humans and builds relationships between communities. Like we have to go in both directions with this.

Oh, you know who else a red-pilled motherfucker? Sorry, Joe Rogan, I was just watching some clips of Joe Rogan. Talking to Gavin McGinnis, who is a straight up fucking white supremacist, fucking idiot. And Joe Rogan, like this guy gets so much credit. I'm after a whole bunch of credit. I don't listen to him and I was like, you know,

uh, um, people act like he's fucking, you know, Oprah, he's the oprah pod cap you know i mean i mean first idea first of all a fucking moron i mean the shit is more on the shitty so you say it's like is like not insightful it's just like it's definitely like what a lot of like young white men would like to hear i mean he literally there's a conversation with him again is where he's talking about

the problems with immigrant with immigrants in coming from like, you know, the Middle East because they're from another time. And it's like, fucking, I mean, listen, there are cultural differences to be sure between, you know, some countries in the Middle East and the West. But like, I mean, they were talking about the most fucking grandiose gross and inaccurate fucking racist ways. And you know, every idea of his bullshit guess and it drives me, it sucks because like, you know, it's like, it's crazy. It is kind of staggering the platforms that, and by the way, listen, Joe Rogan obviously had built a following for himself,

you know. Yeah, that fear factor money or the people. You know, PewDiePie obviously built a following for himself. And I don't fully understand it. Like I don't. Like my great fear is that there actually are a lot more people who have awful ideas than we think. But then what I really think is actually it's much easier to casually listen to something and kind of like it and be like, I'll subscribe to that. And not really look too deeply. Yeah.

You know, like you might listen to a Joe Rogan interview with a celebrity, like a person who's an actor. And it's just a really funny, weird interview where they're high and talking about sports or whatever. And you're like, oh, it's good. Oh, I'm like, Hulk and that's funny. Yeah, I'm sure most, I'm sure most whose interviews don't really go into

his politics or what he believes is going on in the world. Maybe they do. Anyhow, it's fucked up though. It is truly fucked up the enormity of the platforms these people have. So you've got to wonder why Joe Rogan, maybe his podcast is all he needs, but there is some weird barrier between him

kind of cresting into popular culture in a way. And I wonder if it is like, when you get right down to it, you can't just get some bad ideas. This is going to sound like, I guess, I don't know, like, condescending, but sometimes it's just lowest common denominator stuff. Performance great because it's the lowest common denominator. Right. Listen, there's a reason why, well, I mean, I don't know. Big bang theory.

Well, big bang theory is complicated. It's like, it purports to be not lowest common denominator and yet kind of is. It's a really important. Yeah, but so does Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan reports to have these massive intellectual galaxy brain discussions. Yeah. We'll take in any idea. But actually, mostly it's just the blithering idea.

But maybe that's actually it, which is like the illusion of in this intellectual experience. It's like this illusion of... That's Jordan Peters then. Yeah, it's like this illusion, it's like it sounds, it's actually like a lot of the anti-vax, like the anti-vax.

Oh yeah, science, where it's like, it's the real thing. It looks right like it sounds it's actually like a lot of the anti-vax like the the anti-vax science where it's like it's the real fine it looks right it sounds right it's like they did a paper it's peer reviewed it must be real and then it's like oh wait that paper action was bounced out and no real scientists take it seriously and actually this is all bunch of bullshit but like if you only look at the surface you're kind of like huh that and then you know it's also like a lot that it's a lot of that fucking knowledge it's a lot of that fucking Malcolm glad well shit where you're like huh lot that's a lot of the fucking knowledge and so that fucking Malcolm glad well shit Where you're like huh? Yeah, like thinking without thinking like my gut is the gut is why and I've been listening to my fucking gut

That's all I need and it's like well sometimes your guts like you should kill your wife, and it's like wait a second It's like kill that bitch. It's like no, I got a bad idea. Don't do that like don't listen to your gut all the time Maybe take a fucking breather Just take a moment, take a knee. No, Josh, think it out. I think it's a hybrid decision just based on whatever is going on. Just bam, bam, bam.

So whatever you got says, people are like, yeah, man, fucking makes sense. All the time I've been thinking about my problems instead of just doing whatever feels right in the moment. Anyhow, okay, so we're living, yeah, we're living in the hell world. There's more mass shootings and, and you know, we've got to stop a white supremacy, we're living in the hell world. There's more mass shootings and

You know, we've got to stop a white supremacy, but it starts at the top in my opinion That's the reality now this some of the shit might have this might have been building under Obama But we had a different there was a different kind of discourse going on Those people were clearly in the what the fuck is wrong with these people camp and now that shit's just kind of like bubbled up into like Well the president of the United States is kind of agreeing with them so everybody has to sort of be like, yeah, maybe. You know, but we don't have to be, yeah, maybe. Because this has merit because it has an office. We can reject it.

We can just reject it. It doesn't matter who believes in it. You can reject bad ideas just because they're bad. It's no problem. Yeah. Anyhow, I will say, I'm going to stick to this. I really believe it. I think the biggest, the worst thing that we ever decided, and this is I blame fucking Silicon Valley

and social media is that everybody should hear what everybody else thinks all the time. That's the bad. That's it. I'm sorry, it is actually a bad idea. Like you should seek out the people that you have something in common with and talk about things.

That's nice. That is also how mobs form. That is also how like bad, like good groups form who are like, we love to cause play, that's fine, that's wonderful. Like you guys made a kick ass, Captain Marvel costume, I'm so happy for that group. But then there are also people who are like, we love to cause play, we are dressing like Hitler.

Also, we like Hitler's policies, we're thinking about doing some Hitler style stuff. Those people also also got together. But I think it's fine to do that. It should be a little bit harder. The barrier to entry, this is why no music is cool anymore. Basically, you know,

it used to be hard to find good music. And now it's just fucking everywhere. And everybody's like, oh yeah, that's like the, that's like, you know, you listen to a fucking juice world. And people are like, oh yeah, this reminds me of Iggy Pop's like demo tapes before he formed the Stooges and it's like, does anything sacred? I just made that up by the way, juice world's great, but I'm just saying,

but don't you think like there was a time when I thought I was tired tonight, sorry, would put on hoods to be anonymous and then they would go talk racist shit in a room somewhere and then they would do violence. And so the government and its society at large was like, that's dangerous. And if we find out they're doing that, we're gonna stop them and keep an eye on them. And we're gonna figure out how to like not have that happen. Now we do it, we call it 4chan or 8chan,

where men just anonymously go on there and talk racist violence stuff. And it's free speech, that's the only thing. I just wanna add for an app. And it was like anonymous chats, say whatever's on your mind, it's like an anonymous real-time chat. Oh, I'm just like, oh wow.

What a great idea for a platform. Just what we needed a place where you can just say, fuck, and whatever, with no accountability whatsoever. In real time, that sounds really good. So didn't we already invent that? Is it called fuckin' Twitter? Anyhow, I guess it's easier to make an account. Whatever, it's not a real thing.

I'm sure it'll not be a real thing. It's like, anyhow, speaking of Captain Marvel. Speaking of Captain Marvel. Should I back Captain Marvel for a minute? I haven't seen it yet. I wanna see it. I wanna see it even worse now that I've seen the end game trailer where Captain Marvel is in it,

which is like duh, but still, like I'm excited. Have you seen it? Yes, I saw it. Did you like it? Oh, that's complicated. I like the 90s stuff, I like the music was great, the cast was good, I don't think it was a good movie.

Well, you know what? It started disappointing because, like I was really rooting for, I really liked the character, and I was really excited about a female and Marvel movie. And I just don't think the construction of the movie holds together. Like plot-wise, setting-wise, the dialogue was really weak.

There's not a ton of character motivation. They undercut themselves with a lot of style choices. And so the movie itself just feels kind of like a dud. But I had fun, and I'm excited. I'll just think Marvel. It's a Marvel movie. I may be surprised if you didn't have a little bit of fun. It reminds me of what I imagine the Avatar land in Animal

Kingdom is like, which is like it's so fun because it is Disney. But then you take a step back and you're like, but it's Avatar Land. Yeah, kind of a dud. So I read a really great review by Alyssa Rosenberg. I don't know if it's a review, I guess kind of an opinion piece, I guess reviews are opinion, that discuss some of the things and having not seen it that it weirdly problematic things that are raised but never addressed in the movie.

Yeah. Like they talk about like the era which she is like where this movie is set is like an era and it's like apparently it's it's's apparently this movie and all of the Avengers movies, I didn't know those are like very cozy with the Department of Defense. Absolutely. And they're like, is the most she-

Yeah, so this is like apparently like super like Air Force Pro Air Force or whatever. And I'm like, but like crazily like, at the same time that like, you know, this character, Captain Macarral Danvers, is off world. There's like, you know, tail hook was going on, which is like, you know, about 83 women and seven men

who were sexually assaulted by the Marine Corps and Navy officers. There's all this stuff, you know, like just in 93, they had a law that barred women from combat ships, they had to repeal. You know, don't ask don't tell what's going on in 94. Anyhow, is all this like crazy shit going on with like sexual assault and abuse and like really, you know, weird shit, and it's like never dressed at all, right?

Not at all. It uses the 90s as a convenient way to pluck your strings of like, oh, I love celebrity skin. Oh, isn't that funny? She's at a blockbuster. Oh, there's a Game Boy. See, to me, that shouldn't be... That shouldn't be...

That doesn't seem charming at all to me. Like, I feel like, I feel like that's like, you're lazy. It's kind of, I mean, here's it is lazy. It tricks you a little bit, because you're like, I like that. like, really lazy. It's kind of, I mean, here's, it is lazy. It tricks you a little bit, because you're like, I like that. That was my childhood. I remember that. And then a second later, it's gone.

And it's sort of like cotton candy. We were like, oh, it's gone. And the movie itself doesn't do itself any favors because the plot itself, like, it's all highly telegraphed. And it's very lazy in its metaphors. Like, there's like a twist that we all see coming and it's just it, and the idea that then at the end it tries to be about feminism without actually grappling with any of the real world issues or present or then. And it doesn't actually grapple with the actual experience of a woman

in the military or a woman like leading some sort of movement. It doesn't deal with any of that. It just sort of like lets that happen and then it's like girl power and then they play no doubt in world. Yeah, well actually, can I read this passage from this review, which is a Washington post that I really should read. It's called the title is, Kagumaro is the lean in of superhero movies. Oh, that's great. It's really good, but this is, and I, again, haven The title is, Katarmarla is the lean in of superhero movies.

That's great. It's really good, but this is, and I, again, haven't seen it, but I think this sounds like massively interesting to me. The absence of a sharper, clearer critique of the institution's Carol serves up, end up, ends up undercutting Captain Marvel's portrait of her transformation from a soldier

and two different armed forces into a one-woman army capable of destroying a whole armada of spaceships. Rebellion against individual meanness is cute and fundamentally non-threatening. The kind of thing you can score to no doubt is 1995 hit Justin Girl. A lament about sexism that weirdly deflates one of the movie's most important action sequences. A movie where Carol liberates herself from too repressive military systems, one of them alien and fictional, the other very

much real and lending her corporate parent equipment for use on movie sets would be genuinely radical. It's also never going to happen. It's like, I get kind of chills thinking about the possibilities of the movie having a real fucking point, and then I'm bummed because apparently it doesn't. It doesn't. Yeah.

And it's also the thing of like they make the air force into this like cutesy rag tag team of like ladies who are working in a garage just working on their space planes and like it's basically makes them into like characters from Greece but about planes. And and it that's not what the military is and like there's no even like the only time we see sort of like shady thing is like a private contractor, but like it doesn't take a serious look at like the institutions that it is purportedly exploring.

And then it takes a whole turn where it's like war is bad, but the American military is good, which is just like, doesn't make any sense. So I mean, listen, it's got a Q-dass cat. The D-A-J makeup is finally at a point where it really works. Yeah, I mean, Samuel Jackson, what I've seen looks like appropriately. finally at a point where it really works. Yeah, I mean Samuel Jackson want to have seen looks like appropriately young. It's fucking incredible.

Yeah. I want them to do that to me for the rest of my life. It's so good. I was shocked. I spent the entire time just like squinting because I could not believe that that like 80 year old man looks like he's like 30 something. It was wild.

I got to see it. I got to see it. I got to see it. I keep you warm yourself. Well, I've been wanting to go. But any I thought that review was interesting. But I've also heard a lot of I mean, I've heard a lot of people enjoyed it. And I'm just like, you know, it's a lot of movie. It's a ride. I was just talking about this today with my brother and my sister-in-law. And I was saying that I don't know. So I got like, at some point I got like into the... I think it was like, you know, it was the kind of combination I think, Guardians of the

Galaxy and then the last Thor movie, like Thor, Civil War, Civil War, Thor, Black Panther and Infinity War. All were like, I was like, yeah, like this is pretty gotten pretty good. And man was kind of cute. I was like, okay, I'm okay fine. And also like my hatred for the DC movies was so as you know, a lot of my love for Marvel's films is actually just a kind of reaction to how much I want to see them out perform the DC movies because they're so fucking bad and stupid. And also like I was like a Batman fan, so it's real disappointing to see how... Yeah, I was a DC kid. It's like so been so mishandled.

Meanwhile, by the way, I watched the trailer for that movie Brightburn. So what is called? Brightburn? No, Brightburn. It's called Brightburn. I don't know. Yeah, hold on. Have you not seen this trailer?

No. Yeah, it's Bright burn. It's fucking amazing So James gun apparently is it produced it? It's basically like what if the Superman story was exactly the Superman story But instead of the person becoming Superman they became a fucking evil monster It's like a kid crashes a family raises him and then he becomes a fucking devil and it looks awesome and horrible at Any rate um So yeah, so now I'm excited about I so so now that you know and devil and it looks awesome and horrible at any rate. So yeah, so now I'm excited about, so now that, you know, obviously they're bringing the whole team together, I'm very interested in that

and I'm looking forward to endgame, so I have to see Captain Marvel, but I don't have any more complex thoughts about that. I went out to the center of the list, Ryan, what else has happened this week? We've covered a lot. So far, we're very lucky. Do you want to talk about Google stuff? Well, I will say this. Taylor Lorenz wrote a story about how teens

are using Google Docs as a chat app. And it is like actually crazy to me. Well, one is like, it totally makes sense. I mean, it totally makes sense. I would love to see one of these chats like in real time. I'd love to like be a fly on the wall. At any rate, can you do some Google docs to do Google Wave, which must be so frustrating for the team who made Google Wave

and then had to tear it apart? I mean, it's somehow, but yeah, it's Google Wave which don't even remember us now. It's crazy that nobody remembers that. I remember that being such a big deal. But it's truly interesting. I mean, it's like this famous quote, which I don't even think is real quote,

which is like the Street Finds Zone uses for things. I do think it is one of those. I love, love, love, love, to see people bastardize like platforms. Yeah. And do what they're not supposed to be doing. Yeah. That's one of my favorite things is just to see people

like use. I mean, it's something that I've been sort of fascinating, low key fascinating with for a long time, which is watching people. It's like this thing, this story, I think, there's a VC who wrote about it, I'm whom blanking on who it is now. VC who wrote about it, I'm who I'm blanking on who it is now. But he wrote about how, when they first released

the TripAdvisor app, we've probably talked about this before. When they first released the TripAdvisor app for iOS, people in the comments, people were like leaving, in where you, sorry, where you do reviews on the app store, people were like leaving reviews for you, sorry, where you do reviews on the app store, people were like leaving reviews for hotels, they'd stay that. Like unclear on what was happening. It was like leave your review here and people were like, I love the Hilton in Maryland

or whatever. I know. Because they just kind of didn't understand that what was going on. Obviously, there's a lot of old people. But it's sort of about how like the technology kind of leaves itself open for that. And so I'm fascinated by the idea that like people are using Google Docs in this way. And by the way, I mean, who can forget the moment they saw real-time editing Google Docs? Yeah. I'll never forget it. I was like, this is the fucking future man.

This is the most futuristic thing in the world. To see like, I remember, I'm still delighted by it. Oh, it's so delightful. If you're ever in a dog with like four people who are like, everybody's doing their part and like you're trying to get something, you all know what you're doing.

And everybody's like working on it. It's truly thrilling. So I imagine like these chats, because it's not just like, oh, somebody popped in a bubble. It's like, that shit's happening like, line by line. Yeah, you know? It's exciting.

Anyhow, they don't see anything screen-grabs. What I was talking about. So, then how many screen-grabs are, or like, I would love to see a video of this. Yeah, I would like to see it in action. Like, get 17s to do it. action. Like get some teens to do it. Yes. But what I was talking about with Google was Google's coming into gaming. Yeah. So they said everybody's getting into gaming now. Things are going to get weird. No, streaming gaming is a non-starter. I'm sorry. We talked about this PS4 thing last week and

I've yet to check it out because I just don't have the patience to even think about streaming games. I really don't. I know it's going to suck. I'm sure of it. Yeah. I'm just not. I'm just not saying that. I mean, the Assassin's Creed thing worked. Just knocked that into it.

All right. I am excited for things to at least be competitive in summer to wake Microsoft up. What are you going to do when you're on a plane? Play with your phone. Wack-ass latency? No thing. I think most people spend a lot less time on planes than you do. That's probably true.

I'm like, what about my Highly Specialized problem that nobody else has? How will Google the company that makes things for everyone address my personal needs? You know, it's fine. Okay, I'm allowed to have needs, though. Is it wrong to want things, Ryan? No. Okay, thank you. It's human.

Yeah. So, we have to talk about this college cheating scandal. Oh, fine. I love it. William H. Macy, how did he escape? How did he escape this? Because he didn't himself make any payments or like organize anything. He was like, man, I don't want, he was like,

Felicity, I don't want any part of this. This is a bad, bad idea. She's like, it'll be fine. Everyone's doing it. That's definitely what happened. Well, he was like, I'm from the Midwest. Can you get our kids and just figure out the college stuff? And then it became her job.

And so, you know, he advocated his duty. Oh, wow. Okay. So we're now saying what we think happened is, when a major maize is the mastermind, no, I think pushed his, it's a thing about women's labor in the home. Wow.

And when your lady is a criminal, sometimes your groceries get stolen. Sometimes your groceries are, are, are, are, I think, no, it's like if your ladies are criminals, and then your groceries are stolen. That's what I mean. Yeah, they like stolen groceries. They get stolen. It's like someone else is the criminal. Yeah. It's interesting. I hadn't thought about it that way. Regardless, a lot of rich people just went down big time. Look, I mean, so first off, the thing that everybody, that I was, it's interesting to see everyone react because they're like, doesn't this, doesn't this happen all the time like in,

it's done in a way easier way? Yeah, it's like regular bribes are like building a wing or whatever you fucking do to get like. I mean, regular cheating is just really intense as they keep out of the fuck do you think George Bush and Donald Trump got through college wasn't bad by hard work yeah it was because they they're me dad's question are went to Harvard what Jared Kushner went to Harvard yeah Jared Kushner well Jared Kushner you know we don't know he may be a very smart guy with a great idea I assure you that he is I don't, we don't know. He may be a very smart guy with great ideas. Assure you that he isn't.

I don't know. We wouldn't know. He's never said anything. So it's impossible to know. I like when he does talk because he's a Muppet Voice. But the thing that fascinated me with all of this. I'm not gonna say that, but the one thing I don't really like.

And I just don't like that, does he? I don't know. Yeah, I do think we just do voices now. Risingly Muppet-like voice. I thought it should be is that. Yeah, I do think we just do voices now. Risingly muppet like voice. I saw this to me is that. No puppet. I can. No puppet.

No puppet. No puppet. You're the puppet. You're the puppet. You're the puppet. That's kind of you. What surprised me is that I can promise you that a little Olivia Jane who wants to be an Instagram influencer and not go to school will be better off with $500,000 in her pocket

than she would with like a fake degree in something she doesn't care about. Yeah, but I mean like what's such a waste. They were like, your channel was dork. You didn't need to at least get a degree doing something. Those are your parents. I mean, who's your parents are saying. They're like, we don't think you could pull this off on your own.

I think it's more of anything for the parents. They just want to be able to say, no, just go to community college, it's fine. What's wrong with community college? Nothing I'm saying. I went to a private school and that, no, I'm agreeing with you. I went to a private school,

then I went to a community college for two semesters after that because I had to finish up credits and I just didn't want to pay out the nose. And I had a way better educational experience and learned a lot more from the community college professors than I did at my cushy private school. We should listen, we should have great state run schools where everybody has free tuition. Yeah, so some fucking, we shouldn't stigmatize it. It's so weird that these girls wanted so badly to go to college for like the pose or whatever

of it, but like didn't want to do any work, it's like they're, you, you, then don't go to college. There's not, you, there shouldn't be any stigma attached to it. If you don't want to do it, you're rich, who gives a shit? Who gives a shit? You don't have to go pretend that to like microbiology or whatever. Nobody cares. Like, it's just weird to me.

And like, it's very weird to me that these parents, I don't wanna say felt no shame, but also like, they were okay with their kit knowing that they didn't believe in them. Yeah, I mean, listen, that's so fucked up. I mean, like, but I think that the reality is, like, could you imagine sitting in the cell the down and being like,

I don't think you can do it. So dad, he's gonna pay someone to cheat for you. No, I can't, reality is, like, could you imagine sitting Zelda down and being like, I don't think you can do it. So dad, he's gonna pay someone to cheat for you. No, I honestly can't, because I feel like it would be like really bad for everybody involved. And I feel like it would be better to just be like, listen, like you're not gonna get into the, like your grades aren't good enough or whatever,

like you're not gonna get into the fucking Harvard. I mean, I guess like, I'm just trying to think, like if I was just endlessly rich, I don't know. I don't really want to instill this false sense of like success with her. I mean, right now, I'm like, wow, that dance was amazing. Like, maybe it wasn't the most amazing dance in the world. You know, like, I feel like when she's an adult,

you can't do the opposite. You can't be like, that was shit and you need to learn. No, but like learn. But like, I think, you know, when she's an adult, basically, and she's like, I have daddy, shit and you need to learn. No, but like learn. But like I think you know when she's an adult basically and she's like, I have daddy I want to go to Harvard. It's like, well, are you gonna be both a false of five parents were very. My parents were very, yeah, also fuck Harvard, fuck all those I've like schools. My parents were very clear with me and they still are that they

don't think I'm funny. So they said need a liberal art school because they were like, we just don't think you're funny. So we're not gonna let you do comedy. Listen, listen, I'll tell you, and there's no doubt that having a bunch of rich friends who can help you connect it when you're in the real world is very powerful. And 500 grand in your pocket.

Oh, that's what college is really ultimately for. I mean, everybody I know, for the most part, almost everybody I know who's gone to a good college seems to have gotten very little in the way of education in a lot in the way of networks. And so, you know, that's nice. That's wonderful. I'm happy for him.

I mean, comedy as an example, everybody who works in Hollywood is a former member of Harvard with the input. Listen, man, it doesn't fucking matter how good or smart you are. It matters who you know. That's it in life. I'm sorry This is why this world is bullshit. The only one I want to know is Olivia Jade Olivia Jade is one of my best friends state of the world. We're very close

She's the only one you come up with a more Caucasian name. It's made up right? It's fake. Is that really your name Olivia Jade? Yep We leave quickly. We don't have talk about James gun for a second. Yeah, I this shit's crazy to me hopping back into Marvel world James gun Is back on sorry. I know we just had my marvel but I forgot about this. He's back into he's doing Guardians of the Galaxy 3 Which is fine his jokes on Twitter were really bad and stupid. We've talked about this before I mean they're definitely not cancelable jokes in my opinion. Like, they're just shitty 2009 jokes. It's just like a bad... I got everyone with saying that's okay.

Yeah, a guy who was trying to make me like, like, a baby joke. He guys try to be edgy and he failed at being funny or edgy and then some, the daily caller was like, he's a little pedophile and it's like, okay, whatever. You know, that was the long walk to get there, but okay. Yeah, I mean, it's like whatever. I mean, but know, that was the long walk to get there, but okay. Yeah, I mean, it's like whatever.

I mean, but he's back. I think that's great. It's interesting that they didn't apparently didn't interview anybody else, which makes me think that this was always part of the plan, but maybe not. But more importantly, he's also doing now because like in the midst of all this, he's like, okay, I'm done doing my Marvel stuff or whatever. And then the suicide squad people are like, you know, the DC people are like, hey, we know you doing my Marvel stuff or whatever. And then the suicide squad people are like, you know, the DC people are like, hey, we know you're good at these buddy pictures, or not buddy pictures, these like team pictures, but you mind doing some of this third,

this heap of turds that we call suicide squad, which like honestly, when I saw the trailer for suicide squad, I was like, this is gonna be fucking awesome. I bet this is gonna be the first good DC movie. Yeah, sort of amazing. It's sort of amazing how fucking bad it is. Anyhow, so now he's like back in, he's doing that also and he's doing Guardians of the Galaxy,

which is interesting, but apparently they're gonna completely reboot Suicide Squad, which is great, which I love the idea of. Burn the whole thing down. Well, you know, as long as they keep Jared Leto with that damage tattoo on his face, that's all I want in life. Who really thought that was good? I mean, people are so, there's a generation of people whose Batman has been off like and whose Joker is Jared. I know it's so sad. And sometimes it's like, I mean, it's crazy who they let make these decisions. Like you can imagine they were like, oh, it's like, he's like, I mean, in a way they were a little bit ahead of the curve, right?

Because he's like, look, kind of like a little peep character. Yeah, he's got it. He's like, he's like, he's like, post-molone. It's like, Joker does a giant crime, and then he plugs the sound cloud to the police. Yeah, Joker, Joker maloned her forever. But like, but we thought any of the quirkiness or charm, really, I mean, that's the problem.

I mean, it's like, anyhow I mean, it's fucking anyhow. Or, Arctic. So I don't know, congratulations to James Gunn. Yeah. I guess. Well done. I think this is a victory for like sanity. Is it though? Is it, should he not have been fired in the first place?

He shouldn't have been fired in the first place, but once that's done, I think, being a racist question, it's like, what do people, what is the right thing to cancel people for? And who gets canceled? I think it's like porn. What do you mean?

Oh, you know when you see it? I guess so, but there definitely people who've done the same thing as James Gunn and they, there's definitely calls for them to be canceled or they have been canceled. And is that our silver minza perfect example? What is she to use for racist reasons? My favorite example.

She does tons of fucked up shit in the early 2000s because she was like a lady comic that was trying to be edgy and punch up. And in doing that, she just made a bunch of like Puerto Rican jokes and transphobic jokes. You know, pedophile jokes. And then she was like, oh fuck, this is stupid. And then she apologized and said like those were bad.

And that was a person who was just struggling to do this well and now I'm better at it. And it's like over. And I think that that's fine and seen and like we have to be able as a society to be like, just because you said that's so gay in middle school doesn't mean you're like canceled forever. Wait, okay, good. Ooh, just kidding, I did good in middle school.

Anyhow, you didn't go to middle school? No, I went to like one year maybe. Yeah. It's, you know, it's not important. The important thing is I did not go to an Ivy League college. I can tell you that. I knew he didn't go finish high school, but I didn't know. Yeah, I did a little ninth grade.

Little, you're like, this is not the little. A little bit, you know, Casey, Casey Neistat and I talk about this. I think it lay in one of the much earlier episodes of this podcast. Yeah. I should have him back on, actually. Yeah. I should talk about what's going on now. He just had a kid, not just.

Did you get to say that the opposite of PewDiePie? I would say, I mean, they're not boys or anything, right? No. Okay, good. Yeah, I would say. It's like, he represents like some good things that are possible on YouTube. Yeah, he represents like hope. I mean, I would say. So he represents some good things that are possible on YouTube. Yeah, he represents hope.

I mean, I know he's not for everybody, but I think that for the most part, like. He's a nice guy. Yeah, no, I think he's not, and he's definitely, I know for a fact, definitely not like a crazy fucked up racist. Like, we can take this. Once again, he's a nice, that's secret Nazi.

No, we put that in the box. He's a wonderful, he's a very nice guy. But anyhow, but yeah, we talk about our A. He's also high school. He's like one of the, he's like one of the few people I know who's a high school dropout who like is doing stuff. Oh, I mean, yeah, I don't, there's not a lot of them out there.

Most people don't get, don't make it happen. It's hard. They don't have the network. I'm not gonna know fucking network. That's one thing I'll say is like, I know the reason I tied with the network stuff is because like like I did not go to a nice college or any college that matter and I feel all the time like a a real lack of network Yeah, people from my college definitely have not been helpful And then you gotta yeah, and then you gotta like you know you get a network on I don't like networking at all the worst

It's so fake. I don't love to shmuz. I don't like small talk. I'm not a LinkedIn cocktail party man. I don't like small talking If you do not small talk with people you don't know they get really uncomfortable and I know Story of my life. Yeah, it's bad. Ask anyone in our office Okay, she's like the entire independent me team is Right Why are you doing this? No, All right. What else on the list? So for our final possibly news story, you want to talk about Beto and during the race? Oh, man, you're your hacker, dude.

Oh, Beto. Well, love the hack. Listen, I don't know. I don't know. I, I, listen, I know everybody likes Bernie, you know, I know you like I know there's some people like Biden they're so fucking old first off Can we just like be can we just like maybe now? I'd like experience. I think experience is good and beta does not have a lot of experience but But then but then you've got some people in the middle right you know you get some come all of you get Kamala you got a Cursed and Jill a brand now she's in the race, you got Elizabeth Warren, who's not held a she, she's like 60 something. Yeah, not like a spring chicken, but experienced.

Notice how to get shit done. And then you get these old fuckers, like Bernie and Biden, which is like, I'm sure they have wonderful things to say, but I'm just getting a little tired of 75-year-old man running the country. For least inspiring thing in the world to me is Joe Biden running for president. I'm sorry, Joe. Joe, Joe, Joe listen, I love you.

Joe, you were an amazing vice president. You were like the perfect counter to Obama's seriousness. You were like, man, that's fucking cool Obama. People are like, I know. I dropped the F-bomb. But I love the Eagles. Yeah. Yeah. But like, here's the name of Beto.

First off, okay, everybody's like, what are his policies? First off, can you tell me a single Obama policy you remember from the campaign trail that he was like, I'm gonna do this, this is going to happen when I get into office. Can you remember one of them? Is he all about my rack. What? We were like gonna get out of my rack,

I vaguely for a pepper being sped about that. Yeah, that didn't happen. Drawdown, complete drawdown. And maybe it did. He was gonna go on tonne him, he's gonna shut down go on tonne him, I remember that. Yeah, you know, that didn't happen.

I mean, but, I mean, I'm not talking about, I'm not here to talk about Obama being a dude. I mean, Obama wasn't even pro gay marriage when he got elected. So like, he was a very good guy. He was like, I don't know, doesn't seem right to me. Um, like, I don't know, Jury's out. No, but here's the thing.

Everybody's, I mean, everybody's policy shit is gonna shift and change. I mean, part of the primary season, I mean, it's like Hillary during primaries. She had to go up against Bernie, so she had to move all her policy shit is gonna shift and change. I'm part of the primary season. I mean, it's like Hillary during primaries. She had to go up against Bernie, so she had to move all her policy shit had to move left. And it did, a lot of it. She's like, okay, here's the shit I'm promising now.

It's like Bernie's like a free tuition. She's like, yeah, I guess, why not? But so you can't, I don't think you should talk it's policy stuff right now. I think like the question will be, will he fall in the right place on policy, right? I just saw a clip on he's saying my gun me the wrong way and know that's up fair Who I just don't know? Bill Beto just doesn't know you know how everybody feels about Elizabeth Warren

But I like Elizabeth. I like Elizabeth Warren too, but there's a lot of white guys out there who are like something better the bothers me I don't know what it is. You know what it is? I know what bothers them. He's an older woman telling you shit and you don't like that. Exactly. And he is a hot shot like young white guy. You like that? And I fucking don't want it.

I don't want it around. JFK shit. You're like, you're a scumbag probably. Yeah. But here's the thing. But here's the thing. I could just see him doing weird like like fraternity hazing. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, but maybe he's also like a real ally. Maybe, maybe, maybe one of the straight guys I kissed in college. Yeah, maybe. Oh, I'm sure

he's experimented. Beethoven is, you know, got a few nights. The point is, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt because I will say this, I think there's something enigmatic about him, there's something that you can't quite put your finger on. He's just gotta put his hands down. He's breathing. I'm not gonna go to that, listen, I don't know, his hands seem fine, I mean, I never noticed that.

No, I think he really does sell an authenticity and he has an energy which I think he's like. There's no bomb, I'm sorry, there is a- He's not gonna put his hands down. There is no bomb energy to him and I don't know how to explain it except that there is a a there's something like and I'm not I'm not like I stand all struck excitement I'm not

standing beta okay I am saying this though I think I am saying this you have a beta chest tattoo and you need to be honest about I during his run for Senate I did get a couple of Beto tats. No, but first off, here's a couple of things. We have no idea what it's gonna look like.

The primary is gonna be a blood bath because there's like 55,000 people running to be the... Yeah, this is the battle royals are a real trend right now and this is the ultimate battle royale. This is like Fortnite. This is Fortnite. This is Fortnite 2020. I mean, it's like, theyale. This is Fortnite. This is Fortnite. This is Fortnite 2020. I mean, it's like, they're doing it like Fortnite.

They may actually have to decide it with a Fortnite battle royale because there's not just too many people. There's more. There's more presidents of Canada than there are super smash brothers. It's just, I gotta tell you, it's out of control. But at any rate, but there is something,

I don't know what it is, but I do get this weird vibe, this like, and I don't think, I didn't really follow the Texas race that closely, but it is, one thing is interesting, he got super close in a place that is impossible, has been a red saver so fucking long as Texas, you know? He really got close with Ted Cruz.

I think it opens up interesting questions about it. What would it be like for Trump in those in in in Southern states where you've got a real kind of native son, right? Yeah. Um, who definitely has name recognition definitely raised a lot of money. Um, definitely has like star some weird star power that I'm going to be used to performer, you know, like do it was in bands so it kind of makes sense. I don't know, it's interesting, it's interesting. I've been, oh, and then Rosario Dawson's like, I'm dating

Cory Booker and we're in love and I was like, oh Cory Booker is the front runner. That's it. Because honestly, who doesn't want to see Rosario Dawson be in the White House? That would be, if we could get Valerie Brown from Josie and the Post Against in the White House. No, it's good. It's real good. It's really good. I'm just saying Booker puts a ring on it. Or she puts a ring on Booker.

I don't know how it works these days. I'm an old-fashioned guy, but Rosario Dawson and Cory Booker, she is the most exciting thing about him. No, for sure, that's the problem with Cory Booker. I'm like, I'm here for resorted toss and I don't know about Booker's policies or his way of talking or deciding to be at all. I'd like to get what's the love to do, devil. What's the right bit? To me, amongst all the possible candidates. There's a good

President and vice president parent Yeah, what is it? That's a game that I want to play We don't have the time right who is it president beta or work Is that his name doesn't sound real to me? Bites president Now I can't go can't go to dudes guy. I think it's got gotta be a dude in a late. But I think the vice president isn't gonna be from this field. I think we're gonna get another situation

where they can't do that. They can't do that. They can't run that. Why would they do that? If, I mean, that's what Hillary did. Yeah, if, but Hillary fucking played it wrong. Hillary should have been like Bernie, please. Oh, did she?

Oh, did she? Bernie should have been like Bernie, please. Yeah, I was the fucker, I know we have our differences. That was the fun thing that ever happened. That was wild. No, I'm saying what? That's she didn't do that. Like that was fucking interesting.

Well, I mean, it's really hard. Bernie was obviously like fuck you. I'm sure Bernie was mad. Oh, yeah. But I'm sorry, dude, VPs are pretty good spot to be and if you want to affect change. It's not just for show. VPs can actually do things.

I mean, I can't let you think of the name of the show now. House of cards. House of cards, you want House of cards? Sorry, not only was this campus basic cancel, but that show was also canceled, but also erased from my memory, apparently. So, that show was a full on fantasy sci-fi experience. House of cards.

Yeah, it's like, did that even happen? Can I share actually, can I share a very personal anecdote? Annic, dude. You know, I'm not a big weed person, but I got some weed in Portland. I got some, I got some drops. Yeah. I got like a dropper.

It's like a THC and CBD concentrate. And you know, if you drop, if you do a couple drops on it, like if you've eaten, it kind of doesn't, you don't feel much of anything. I did a few drops on an empty stomach, though, the other night. Maybe more drops than necessary.

And I got so high, like acid, like acid high. Like LSD level level like head trip The best and I was like and I had this I had this I'm such an amazing idea I was like wait a second. I was like I'm so fucking stone. I was like maybe I've actually this is like I Got this stone like last week when I got this stuff and now I'm like just coming out of a haze My brain is completely fried and I'm like I'm like just coming out of a haze. My brain is completely fried. And I'm like, I'm here now realizing, and I was like, that doesn't make any sense. And I was laying in bed, telling Laura about it.

I was like, oh, it's a nightmare. I was like laughing hysterically. I'm like, this is a fucking nightmare. Like, this is the worst. I cannot stand this. And then she was like, five minutes later, I was storing. She was like, literally five, you're like, laughing hysterically, talking about how's a nightmare.

And you feel like you're losing your mind. And then five minutes later, you were passed down to sleep. I hate I truly hate. I love weed. I love. So I would say why would they be able to put themselves through that? I fucking love weed because if you get to do a couple of drops

after this podcast recording, you do the right strain and the right amount and you it's the best. I had one good. I got a 10 hangover. I got a 10 of edibles. I got a 10 of edibles in LA. They were the best. It's the best. I had one good, I got a 10 over. I got a 10 of edibles. I got a 10 of edibles in LA. They were the best, it was the best.

Yes. And they were like, whatever they were, it was the perfect thing for me. I took one the first night and I got so, and I was so, it was like a crazy body high. I'm sorry, this is very personal, but whatever, who cares? It's the tomorrow show with Joshua Tbilzky.

But I was like, wow, I've never been this high and nor have I ever felt this good about it. It's the tomorrow show with Joshua Tbilisi. But I was like, wow, I've never been this high and nor have I ever felt as good about it. And it was like really awesome. And then I lost a tin. I don't know where they are. Maybe last time at a hotel or something, I can't remember. That's what happens when you do a week.

I've had a cold for like a week at this point. And I'm on my last day of it, but last night, I have been taking cold medicine, which makes me not feel good. I was just like, I need to eat and I'm on my last day of it, but last night I just, I have been taking cold medicine which makes me not feel good. I was just like, I need to eat, I just need to eat. I'm like, I really am like, run down. So I took an edible thinking, oh, it'll just make me really hungry

if I eat half an edible. My stomach was very irritated already. So John came home to be like, vomiting and cold and a lot screwed up and he was like never again. And I was like, I'm sorry. Yeah, no, we have. No, by the way, all the, all the, all the weed should is like, you could rub it on your forehead if you have a headache.

You could put it on like you have a sore throat. You could put a few drops in tea. It's like, I'm sorry. THC is not like a general cure. Like, all the weed people are like, you could, you know, if you've got a corn on your foot, just rub it on the, it's like, it's like, well, that was when doctors would prescribe a heroin for a cough. No, it's, you know, it's like, well, that was when doctors would prescribe a heroin for a cough. No, it's literally they're like,

they're like of sprained ankle puts a weed on it. Like carpal tunnel rub weed on it. It's like, you know, are you feeling, do the sniffles put some weed up your nose? It's like people in the Northwest and apocytoprenagar. Yeah, exactly. Um, I wish a wrap up here, I'm guessing.

Yeah, let's get to nice stuff. It was a nice thing. Nice stuff. And then we're up here. I'm guessing. Yeah, let's get to nice stuff. You wish a nice stuff. Nice thing. And then we're doing nice stuff. Nice things. I mean, nice things you have. Is it like six, eight? I got four, but they're going to be fast.

I'm going to give you 20 seconds, Rachel. Okay. I really like Shrill on Netflix with 80 Bryant, made by Lindy West. It's delightful and inspiring and funny. And it's the kind of thing that I'm glad that streaming services exist because the show wouldn't have been made otherwise.

I heard a great interview with 80 Bryant and she was talking about a scene where she's in a coffee shop and she's like taking a picture of some funny ad and then say for a personal trainer and the personal trainer's there and she's like taking a picture of some funny ad, and then say for a personal trainer, and the personal trainer's there, and she's like, starts talking to her, and she's like, you're just a small person

inside of you who really wants to get out. She's like, I hope they're okay. And it's just seem really funny. Actually, like, the kind of crazy shit that people say to people who are like heavier, it's like, you know, wild. Anyhow, I don't know, of course, because I'm extremely lean.

It's except for my stomach region. And it was very inspiring. And any time you can like really fry Dan Savage, that's great to me. Oh, does he get fried? Yeah, is he like anti fat or something? He was for a long time. I mean, the dream Lee fat phobic like like crazy, like fat people need to be,

like put into like forced medical, whatever. Ooh, that shouldn't be allowed to have health insurance because we're subsidizing their med choices kind of. That's an unpopular stance. He's since evolved, much like Obama. Obama didn't like fat people either? No, I was making a call back to the gay marriage. Oh right, right.

So, my next thing is old posts. I found an old post, like an old blog post, I think it was on Kotaku about like, it was just like some history of a video game thing and I was looking it up just kind of researching. And then I realized it was from 2010 and I scrolled down and read the comments. Boy, will it just brighten your day to see how stupid we all were a few years ago and how stupid we are right now about what the future will be? Everybody in the comments was like saying what they do and don't like about their video game systems and what they think is going to take off in the future and like if they could

what they would like do, and just reading old conversation, anytime you can find like shit from the 90s or 2000. No, this is... Everyone's such a fucking idiot. You're like, oh, this is a good story. I was like always talking about high water, the phone that had like a long screen, like an iPhone screen,

but then had a keyboard to bottom. And then like, you know, Blackberry made one, and I was like, this is not good, and I don't want this. I was like, this is... Yeah, they were all like, they were all like, you know, blackberry made one. And I was like, this is not good. And I don't want this. I was like, yeah, they were all like, they were all like, what I would really love is if they would do some sort of package where you could download extra content for your game. So games that were popular, they would make extra levels for it.

And you wouldn't have to buy a sequel. And I was like, just so you know, DLC does not end well for all of us. For like micro transactions, it's not gonna be good for your favorite entertainment genre. Yeah, but some of those, some of those, it means that some of that worked out well. I guess, I just wish I could go back

and shake them and scream, loot boxes. I know. I know. I've been thinking about getting the Horizon Zero Dawn DLC content. Is that worth it? I guess it's our DLC. I guess that's sort of content. I just bought the complete edition. So I haven't played this game yet, but I'm going to you. I'm played Horizon Zero Dawn. Mm-hmm. Oh, it's fucking I hear from our listeners about it often

It's honestly one of the greatest games of our play. Oh, I'm so excited beautiful leaves incredible leaves incredible grass Beautiful gowns. No, I'm I'm definitely that's what I'm into is like checking out the foliage and games All right, go ahead um my Last two things I'll go quick and I'll go slightly longer. Um, it's on my fault Rainbow twizzlers they still make them and I love them and what are they happy? They're they don't taste like twizzlers. They have their own like flavor that most people don't like They're they don't taste like twizzlers. They have their own like flavor that most people don't like But they're like a gummy twizzlers shaped candy that I just fucking love they make me so happy and John found the minister I thought they didn't make them anymore. They found a minister and they made me happy. I love

Gonna Google rainbow twizzlers right now. Go ahead. They're fucking great Rainbow twizzlers still happy that those exist. And then my last thing is, oh, I obviously am on my May or Pete train. Still my listening phase in general, but I love May or Pete. And I have to say it was really inspiring to see that he reached the minimum of donors

to go to the debates, the DNC debates. It was awesome because a few years ago, like we weren't allowed to get married, you know, like gay people being at all in the realm of politics. It seems like once you come out, you kind of forfeit your ability, you know, there's only one Harvey milk. You kind of forfeit your ability to ever enter the idea that you would be president or you give up a bunch of stuff by coming out and it put into perspective for me how much things have like evolved and changed and it was just even him being at those debates will be a really big deal for

people at home for kids at home. It was really I'm sure this is how many people of color felt seeing Obama succeed and on top of the fact that I really like him as a candidate I really like what he has to say. I would support him whether or not he was gay, him being gay and queer has filtered into his viewpoints on things that in a way that really resonates. And I think it's really inspiring. So go Mayor Pete, please get your husband to stop tweeting about Harry Potter because it's not going to help you down the line.

Other than that, I like you, May be. So I think he's really interesting. I'd like some of the stuff I heard him saying about Trump in sort of Trump's insanity. I was like, I like anybody who's not afraid to actually articulate, like, I mean, one of the things I liked, what the fuck, Nancy Pelosi? What did she say?

Oh, you said maybe it was like, Baydo, do you think he's qualified? She's like, are you kidding? She's like, the person is in office and then like, caught herself and like started laughing. Yeah. And they're like, so that's a yes. She's like, yeah, it's a yes.

It was really good. Cause like, I would really like for people to start talking like normal people. The way that people talk to me. And not doing what- And not doing what- And not doing what- And not doing what-

And not doing what- And not doing what- And not doing what- And not doing what- And not doing what- And not doing what- AOC succeeds one of the reasons AOC succeeds as she talks like a normal fucking No, no, no, no, that's the thing that's most interesting about her is like I'm like, oh, you're like yeah Like you sound like a human who can communicate with other humans like that's really encouraging No, it's like Biden the shit with Biden where he's like this old world like we'll even compliment a Republican if I do something good And it's like you know what Why they don't fucking compliment you dude. They would fucking kill you in the street if they could like Why are you playing this fucking game? Like I'm sorry, but like I think our biggest problem in with the Democrats is that they always and by the way This is sort of it's actually sort of one of the good things about Democrats is that we're like Maybe we could get the best out of them like Like maybe the actually be good guys this time.

And it's like they won't be good guys. No, they don't want to blow your mind. They're not literally are the scorpion in the story that Trump tells. That's the world. But he's talking about himself. He's talking about the Republican party. Well, it's a scorpion. What did you expect me to do?

It's like, yeah, I have to recommend people go watch Stephen Colbert had on Adam Kinzinger. He had representative Adam Kinzinger on his late Valetio and he was very diplomatic with him, but he did it in a way where he gave him enough rope to hang himself to look like a complete fucking idiot on TV like he had asked him questions that he clearly didn't know the answer to or ask him like okay so you say that you don't support the president and everything he does but you voted with him 97% of the time and like his answer was so idiotic he did two segments with him and it was it was amazing and it was like this is the kind of stuff we have to do we can't have a

Republican candidate host SNL again. We have to like give them enough rope to hang themselves, call them out for being complete idiots. Like, yeah, we really need, we really need, we really need to get real with what those people are. We need to put these candidates in a house. And your suggestion is that we Find out what happens when they stop being polite and start getting real. Yeah

I also think We put these candidates through a season of drag race because I think it would reveal more about them than the current presidential primary system does Yeah, I think you're right about that. I like that idea. All right, what else? Nothing, that's what's it. Okay, I'm gonna do my nice thing. Springtime shoes, let's just talk about it. I bought some new sneakers in preparation for the springtime.

I'm getting ready, it was warm one day in New York. Now we're gonna have a snow storm, I assume. Just as I... I think the weather's gonna be gorgeous from here and out because I always get my cold the first week of spring. So I think our weather patterns in New York are like a, a dom is trying to teach us a lesson.

I was gonna say Russian real lep, and I like that you've made it very intentional. No, no, no, yeah, no, it's like, yeah, you know, you got, well, you know, warm warm one day things are gonna be really nice Everything's gonna be fine for you. It's gonna be springtime now down boy You here's twelve and a half inches of snow and not the good I'm gonna walk on your back with heels Yeah, let me tell you what's gonna happen. Let's take a look here. Let's see a little pixie at the weather No, it's getting warmer. Huh? It's getting a little bit warmer. I told you my cold is a portent

What my cold is like puxed ony fell Honestly, it's gonna be 62 on Sunday, March 24th according to this weather report. I hope it's nice Okay, I will admit I don't see I see a lot of warmer days, and I don't see any snow on the horizon So I think you buy all these springtime shoes. What? Good thing you bought all these springtime shoes. So I got some new, I got these Adidas shoes. They were like, it was like an actual drop.

I had to like sign up. I don't even know what they're called. I gotta go to my email and look. And then I got these, I got these Nike shoes. Here's my favorite thing in the world. I go and Nike.com every once in a while and I'll look at shoes. And then every once in a while, I'll put look at shoes. And then every once in a while,

I'll put something in a cart, and then I don't buy it. And then I'll look again several months later, and sometimes the shoes run sale. And that's good. I feel like I did something really awesome. You did a hack. Yeah.

So I got a pair of shoes that I would have been over, I think over $100 originally I got them for $65. I got these a Dita's Night Jogger shoes. So for NITE Jogger shoes, I got them in the Cloud White color way. And they're like real funky. They're kind of like almost like Virgil Ablo like somewhat slightly deconstructed.

I'm not even a big a Dita's but I'm like, deconstructed shoe just to sandle. What? Isn't a deconstructed shoe just to sandle? No, no, it's like the tongue, it's like the tongue has kind of like the middle phomy part like someone exposed. You have to look at them. I will.

I mean, I got some new shoes and I'm like, oh yeah, I can't wait to, now of course I can't put them on right now because everything on the street is still kind of like wet and slushy. Yeah. And there's still snow. I mean, up here there is, I don't know about in the city proper.

I was in Brooklyn today, I didn't see any snow. And now I'm just excited. That's my nice thing. Really, that's my only nice thing. Oh, oh, and I've been, I got the Q2. I think we talked about the Q2. I got the Q2. Like I sent me, the Q2. I got the Q2, like it sent me the Q2 to, I'm gonna write something.

I wanna write something about photography, camp with a real camera, and the interesting new reality for photography with a real camera, which I have a lot of thoughts on, but I've been shooting with it. I shot a bunch today and, fuck man, I love, I love, I've talked about this already, like I talked about taking photos with a real camera.

But the difference between a real camera and a phone camera is like really interesting. Like, if you think there isn't a difference, you're a very mistaken. It's like night and day. It is actually night and day when you look. And that has a, but it's also interesting, and this is something I'm gonna write about, like,

no one gives a fuck if you take pictures of your phone. No one gives a fuck. No one thinks about it, no one cares about it, no one looks at it, they don't care. Like literally. But if you take a camera out, people get real nervous. Yeah.

Real nervous. I mean, you could take a picture of anything with your phone, people wouldn't care. You take your fucking camera out. People think they're like, hold on, I need to call my makeup artist. People would flip out when we were doing Billy, because we had big cameras and we were shooting video or whatever, people freak out. And they'd be like, I didn't sign a waiver. It's like first of your in public. And second, like we we're not gonna shoot anything you

haven't agreed to. But also, how many of these fucking teens are Snapchatting you right now on the street corner in downtown New York you're fine but people really have like a visceral reaction to it. Yeah no it's interesting man I really um me well they'll look better yeah I'm like I'm trying to make you look good look at this bokeh anyhow that's it that's all I have to say the Q2 is pretty dope. I mean, I don't, I don't get, like I'm not a like a guy. I'm not like, oh, like a,

it's a really beautiful and extremely useful camera. Like it does things that you want a camera to do. It's also $5,000, so it's like, come on. But, but I don't know if anything like it, like it,000, so it's like, come on. But I don't know if anything like it. Like it? Yeah, like it. No, it's not pun intended, but anyhow, we should wrap up my mouth as hurting.

I bit my tongue. Oh, that's right. And I feel like I've been speaking with a strange... Yeah, my throat is hurting. We're dying. We're dying. We're dead people. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best.

Though I've just been told that your family has been caught up in this college admission scandal. But unfortunately, college they were admitted to was Trump University. you