Tomorrow - 158: Written in the Stars

Episode Date: April 15, 2019

We photographed a black hole, Julian Assange and his cat have both left the Ecuadorian embassy, Disney is planning world domination, and Pepsi is literally playing God (specifically Zeus). So what exactly is going on? Well, it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call: Tomorrow episode 158.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to Tomorrow, I'm your host Josh Wittipolsky. Today on the podcast we discuss Jelena Sanchez-Cat, Pepsi, and the Black Hole. I don't waste one minute. Let's get right into it. Alright Ryan, you're back in America. I'm back in the US. F-R, congratulations. I got to bad news though. Donald Trump is president. I like a boy-ded president. I avoided the news for the most part.

Well, it was way like I just thought, you know, why put myself through it? Why do it? Yeah, why not? You're in a different place. Just experienced a different kind of way of living. Like I definitely went on Twitter occasionally and saw some stuff, but you know, it didn't really engage. And then for the show last night, I was like, let me catch up on the news. Ends up, it's all bad. Instead of taking a little bit of

poison every day, I took like the whole bottle at once and I was really, really spiraling out. Yeah. I mean, there's a new Star Wars trailer, which we're going to talk about. I think it was a tiny bright spot and otherwise, you know, potentially very dark. You were gone, you were gone for like almost two weeks, I guess. Yeah, like I was gone for a while because I had a passport issue when I was leaving. Yeah, turn out you're not actually an US citizen. And I had to go to the passport agency in New York and just cry and beg and then rebuild my tickets. Does that work if you cry in big? Yeah, actually does. There's a few places in the world where they

can make a passport same day and I cried in beg and I got there at like five o'clock in the morning and was like, please and they made me a new passport. But because I had to rebook my tickets, I got to stay a little bit longer. And a friend of mine is in the military in stationed in Germany. So I went and visited her in Germany, which was like a two-hour train. So I got to stay a little bit longer, which made it all the harder to come back

because then I realized how fungible those tickets were. And I could just stay forever if I wanted. Yeah, just staying in Paris forever is the point. Honestly, Paris is like another dimension where everything's clean and friendly and like there's no fascism, like ruling everything in the whole middle of your life. There's some nationalism in France, but it's not like, I mean, you know, there's like,

I mean, one of the things I think about on a regular basis, and maybe I'm wrong, and I just made this up, is that a fairly high percentage of the French population identifies as atheist, which is like, you know, in America to be atheist is like essentially criminalized. But, I mean, I think it's gaining popularity now.

But I think about that all the time, because it's like, it's governed like a country where like, yeah, there's like actually a bunch of people who are atheist probably, and are not like- It's also governed from the perspective of they redo their constitution regularly and they the idea is like to reform France is to love France whereas here any criticism or reform is saying that

there's essentially a problem with America which means you don't love America which means you hate Americans and you hate the founding fathers and you hate what we stand for. There it's like if you want to improve things, it's considered loving your country and wanting to work towards a better version. So they have tons of programs and everything's clean and God, I was just like, why do I live in New York? I really struck you as clean. You're spending too much time in Manhattan, that's your problem. And also all the other burrows. We'll talk about this later, but one of the MIT scientists was like America's essentially

developing nation from an economic standpoint once again. And you can see it. No, it's actually really crazy. In fact, we're going to, I'm excited that we're going to Pittsburgh next week for, I'm going to go for Passover, we're going to do Easter there. And I haven't been to Pittsburgh in a while, and it's always interesting to see how a smaller city is developing, and everybody's like,

wow, Pittsburgh's like cool now. So I'm very curious to see what that looks like in 2019, what a cool, smaller American city is. I haven't been back in several years, so it'll be interesting. Yeah. Might have to pop into the Pittsburgh A's hotel and be mad about that. You pop into the Pittsburgh Ace Hotel and be

mad about that. You go to the Warhol Museum. Yeah, I've been to the Warhol. That's not, that's one I'm there for. I'm from there for like the, I wanted a $17 cup of coffee and I want to stay at an Ace Hotel room where it's like there's nothing in it and they're like it's minimum. I'm like, no, it's just a bad room. That was my one issue with Paris Paris that I couldn't get a giant cup of coffee to save my life. I'm not saying that all the coffee you can get was great. And you could smoke while you were drinking it. But do they still love smoking a cafe? Oh, everywhere.

Yeah, it's great. I mean, if you smoke, if you don't smoke, it's kind of sucks, but I don't smoke. Laura had a blast. So here's the interesting thing. The interesting thing about Paris, there's only a few places I've been, and I haven't been that many places,

but when you go certain places, you're like, oh, this is a place where things, real things happen that have like global impact. Like it's a city where like shit that happens in this city has a big impact outside of this city, right? Like there's a few cities in America like that. There's a few cities in other countries. And you know, Paris is one of those cities.

It's a huge, it's huge first off. You know, it's sprawling. It's insanely beautiful. There are so many things to do there. Single thing I thought was beautiful. Like even like the city's parts were beautiful. I mean, I know I know a Parisian will disagree with me, but like you couldn't, we couldn't find a bad meal. Like, yeah, actually, I take the back. I know I know a Parisian will disagree with me, but like you couldn't I couldn't we couldn't find a bad meal

Like yeah, actually I actually I take the back I did get food poisoning there and was completely destroyed for two days really yes I had insane the worst I've been the sickest I've ever been the food is so good and effective And even when it poisoned you it doesn't the best honestly. I think I had a bad oyster I'm gonna be honest like it's a classic situation. Yeah, I was going ballistic on oysters and, you know, as one does. And I was like fucking dying. Like it was insane.

I mean, truly, I've never felt worse, but aside from that, everything was amazing. I mean, my dollar, but like pastry in the morning was the best thing I've ever eaten in my life. I know. How often were you seen in the streets of Paris with a baguette in hand? That's all I don't know. A thing time.

And they have those little electric lime scooters. So I made sure everyone in the city saw me eating my baguette. You do have to put it up to everyone. You got like, you brought like your own basket to put on the front of the lime scooter. So you could have a baguette sticking out of it. All right. Anyhow, there's a lot.

We should talk about this a lot to talk about. And I don't want to waste too much time, not waste, but spend too much time on your vacation, which I'm very jealous of. But I will say, I'm glad you took it. I need to take a vacation at some point in your future. And I don't know. You know, I'm just it's good to get out of your comfort zone and out of

your, the place you know really well. I mean, obviously, vacations are good for lots of different reasons, but I think that it's particularly good to be reminded that there are other places in the world that are not America, where other people live and exist and do things and like, it isn't all, you're not, not everybody is living in like Trump world 24-7. I mean, I'll say this, the Trump stuff and like New York media scene intrigue and like, you know, drama going down at the Golden Globes. Suddenly, I was saying in an Airbnb in Paris, which is a place that is unlike a sandals resort, like a real place that people like live their lives. And it was astonishing how much none of that mattered. It was like,

oh, wow, like, I guess Trump stuff does have global implications, but like the little tweets and stuff, like nobody gave a shit. And it was, it put it all on. I feel like it's really good. I mean, if he pairs out like the, you know, climate change or quarter, whatever, I mean, that's one thing, but anyhow, excuse me, sorry. Oh, I might be getting a little bit of a cold, I can't tell. It's the changing of the seasons here. It was like 75 degrees yesterday. I know. It was insane.

It was awesome. It was the greatest. I just got like a little taste of what summer is like here. I love summer. I love summer. Everything should always be 60 degrees. No, summer is great. I love the sun.

I don't, I mean, I like seeing the sun. I don't know if I like bean in it that much. No, I love the sun. I mean, I like seeing the sun. I don't know if I like bean in it that much. I like its existence. I like to be able to look at it through a window out at the sun. And then you like going, it's there. You're an indoor kid during summer vacation. It's just nicer. It's just nicer.

I don't know, whatever. I think it's nice. All right, let's get into the news. There's a lot of things happening in the world right now. Yeah, we've got a black hole. We saw a black hole. Yeah, you know, here's the thing about the black hole picture. We saw a black hole and that's amazing.

You know, it is, it's amazing. It's hard for it to feel amazing because one, we have lived in a world where we've seen depictions of black holes in film and television where they're always really epic. You know, there's like, people get sucked into it. They're having, you know, it's like, Jody Foster's having like a contact moment inside of a black hole or whatever. You know, I mean, I don't know if she actually went into a black hole, but, you know, I feel

like black holes have been somewhat ruined. Real black holes have been somewhat ruined by fake black holes. You know, so like, when I saw the picture, I'm like, okay, I guess it seems blurry, but I know I know I know it's like there's this whole thing on Twitter where people are like Um, the picture came out and there were people like, oh my fucking god a black hole, right? Then there was of course the wave of backlash where people were like making fun of the black hole for not looking Very good because it kind of looks really like a blurry blob. And then there was a lot of like,

when you order it versus when it arrives means. Yeah, and then there was a backlash to the backlash, of course, where it was like a lot of very meal to grass-tice and ask like, or like, you know, Louis CK had that bit where he was talking about using cell phones like on planes or computers on planes or whatever and how people would, we're always complaining

because it wasn't good And the internet wasn't fast enough and he's like basically the backlash to that was like, you know all of the People who were really into science being like you just saw the beginning and end of creation and all you could do is make fun of the picture And it's like yeah, but come on. It's like it looks pretty blurry. I mean, I don't know what to say like yeah It's like a smudge. I mean, it's incredible that we accomplished it, but it is a smudge. It's incredible. Get back to me when we're in the black hole. Yeah. You talk to me when I can be shot into the black hole, and then I will be interested.

Okay. I'm looking for kind of a black hole escape type of situation. So if you can make like the black hole catapult and put me in the, put me in it, then I'll start getting really hyped. No, but it's cool. And, you know, there was'll start getting really hyped. No, but it's cool. And there was a lot of conversation about this woman, I believe her name is Katie Borman. I don't want to get her name wrong. Katie Bauman, I put an R in there for some reason that made no sense.

Katie Bauman, who's a scientist who had a big part in, she's only 29 years old, had a big part in, and she's only 29 years old, had a big part in getting this, getting the picture like into reality. And then of course, you know, the internet being the internet, like people started, like somebody posted a thing, like the first thing, like the YouTube algo pulls up if you type in her name is like a video about how like, she really didn't do it all and she's getting all the credit and all these other men worked on it. They're not getting any credit.

And it's like, I don't know. Well, this is why we can't have nice things, number one. But number two, it's like, I just thought about, when I saw the thing and I tweeted about it, I was kinda like, what kind of mentality do you have to have to feel like threatened by a woman getting credit one time for something. You don't even mean it's like, dude,

I mean, it's been like literally thousands of years of people like high five and white guys for the people. But also like how many achievements have white guys gotten all the credit for? And then it turns out that, you know, a whole group of people worked on this and that's totally how science and technology

work in the modern day. I mean, literally everything. I mean, literally, and I speak from a place of real knowing any white man in any role of powers, absolutely, very little has very little responsibility for anything about what they do there and how they caught there. No, it's, I mean, just ridiculous.

It's like, I don't know. I mean, this is the cycle now, you know? And the cycle has all of these parts. And weirdly, I think like the cycle's just there to feed the content machine in some way, you know, there's so much content. There's so much black hole content. There's so much content about like, literally everything.

Like Elizabeth Holmes, there's still, there's still generating more content about around Elizabeth Holmes. Now there's another show, Kate McKinnon's gonna be in a show based on the podcast, based on the story by John Careru. It's like sometimes like can't just one thing be a thing, you know, like yeah.

Anyhow, but I'm just saying like the black hole cycle is the black hole cycle is, you know, excitement. Things used to end with a ride in a theme park that used to be the last stop for like a piece of stuff. They have the black hole right now. Yeah. After 10, 10 years later, they made a black hole ride. Remember the black hole or whatever. Actually, black hole ride would be cool. Now it ends with a streaming show or an app. That's the two places where content like that's where we're like, well, we've done it. We've processed this as a society.

And we can move on. No, now it's like anyhow, so this whole cycle is like, okay, so the black hole shows up, then people are mad to the pictures bad, then people are like mad, just people are mad to the pictures bad. Then it's like this amazing woman helped it, you know, get it done.

And everybody's like, oh my God, fantastic. But then people are like, how dare a woman get credit for anything. And it's like, then people are like, the YouTube Algo is broken. And like Charlie Warrzell writes is, you know, I'm sure he's already written a New York Times. Charlie Warrzell, most people was not. You know, who he is. He's a, basically tracks how bad the internet is. He has a column every week about how bad the internet is in the New York Times now. I'm sure he's got a column that's like, this is why YouTube needs to be regulated or something like that. And then it's just like the cycle repeats, you know, which is fine. It's just astonishing because YouTube and a couple other places are where basically all

information and content ends up eventually. And the fact that those places are bad does not have anything. I mean, it does a little bit have stuff to do with like, the overall news landscape, but every single flashpoint of a news event does not need a piece about how YouTube recommends bad videos about it because like we know, we know that also recommends bad videos about everything. Well, but also we live, but of course, the flip side of that is we live in an environment where, where everything needs as much content as possible. So like there's a YouTube channel person, the guy who made the video, bashing Katie Bauman, or Booman,

I don't know how you pronounce it, anyhow. But bashing her, where his lifeblood is making videos that get gamer gay people riled up and outright people mad and like MRA guys. And like that's his career. So now he has to feed the fucking you know the coal engine of his career which happens to be doing those videos. And it's like I'm not look I mean technology's brought us amazing things YouTube's brought us amazing things but and I'm not

I'm not here to bitch about I'm not gonna bitch about YouTube because I think we've done enough bitching about it like I'm actually like I'm I've made my peace with the whole existence of how bad it is and how like, I mean, I haven't. It's still bad. It's just like, I'm sick of talking about, we know how bad it is. No, I'm sick of talking about it too. And I'm saying like, you know, YouTube,

the algorithm will either get better or not. But like there is never going to be an end to people who want to spread shitty, disinformation or misinformation or lies or nasty shit. And by the way, look at this like Logan Paul shit. By the way, I mean, I don't want to get into a whole Alex Jones thing. But is it Logan Paul or his brother? I can't remember because they're indistinguishable because they both suck equally. Which one is the suicide force? That's Logan Paul, right? Yeah, he had Logan Paul Jones, it Alex Jones on his show, you know, Logan Paul, right? Yeah, he had Alex Jones on his show.

You know, Logan Paul's fan base is like 15 year olds. And like Alex Jones is a fucking monster who's literally being sued by the parents of murdered children for like causing them insane suffering. And like, why is that guy having Alex Jones on his show? For clicks. I mean, for clicks, but also because he's a dumbass, you know? And like, he doesn't have like whoever's like guiding his career doesn't have brains enough to be like, hey, you know what, since you did the suicide forest thing and all the other dumb shit that you do, maybe like don't

have the Sandy Hook was a false flag, harass these parents of murdered children guy on. Well, I mean, and this is part of the like, Shane Dawson thing where like he makes these little conspiracy videos about Chuck E. Cheese or whatever. But he also in other interviews says like, well, maybe Sandy Hook was, you know, maybe Sandy Hook was Christ's actors. I don't know, it's an interesting thought.

Shane Dawson said that. Yeah. Oh, he can, he can go fuck himself. And like it's so I don't I barely even know Shane Dawson is he's a YouTube guy, right? He can seriously Yeah, he had sex with a cat. Um, oh, did it? Oh, he's got a sex with a cat. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he got engaged the next day. It's very been there. It's really good. It's a journey. That was probably the hurdle to the engagement. We see. But all of this is for comedy It's a boy is he got engaged to he's is he gay is he gonna get you a dude? I and he got engaged to do okay, okay fine

Well his boyfriend is probably like I'm not gonna get married to unless you fucking cat You know, that's my that's where I draw the line. That's such a funny joke. It's so funny Like I don't know having out Jones on my channel is so funny Isn't that fun? I mean is it which he actually fuck his cat? I don't, is that it, is that true? He, like, told the story on his podcast, which was always mixed with fictionalized and real horrifying things. I can't, I can't. And he told the story about how he fucked his cat as if it was true,

but there's no indication that it was a joke. And also the way he told it, you could tell when he was joking when he wasn't, and it was one of those things where he was like, I don't know, I was 14 and I was experimenting. I know, listen, I'm glad we've democratized, I'm glad we've democratized like content creation, but I do long for the days when like studios would be like,

yeah, this guy maybe isn't gonna be the guy for us because he seems like he might have fucked his cat at some point. You know, like there is a system that like weed it out some shit like guys who fucked their cats, you know? I mean, it also was like run by Harvey Weinstein. So, yeah, it's a fucking toss up, it also was like run by Harvey Weinstein. So yeah, it's a fucking toss-up. Isn't it? Choose between Harvey Weinstein and Mark and bats of ideas. They're bad. It's bad all over. All right. Let's talk about some things that aren't bad. Maybe there's some stuff to discuss.

Star Wars. What is Disney plot? Okay. Yeah. Let's talk about... Can we talk about Star Wars? Yeah. Okay. Well, this is a hard pivot from cat fucking to Star Wars. Is it? That's how you do it on the tomorrow podcast. I don't know, I'd climb a wookie. Okay, so wow. So I saw the, is it a wookie? Is it a cat? Is it in the cat family?

I think it's more like a dog. The Star Wars people. I feel like it's like a dog. Like it's like a, it's like a, it's like a cow or like a whole. Where's the British, what is the British space sitcom that I used to watch Red Dwarf? Oh, yeah.

I don't know if you ever watch Red Dwarf. It's an amazing show. And I watch all of it. I'm like, I can't believe I blanked on it. But part of the plot is like, you know, there's like a cat left in like a spaceship over like millions of years. It's been in it evolved to like a cat man.

Anyhow, the like the race of cats evolved to Catman. And Cat Lady's I assume. Anyhow, so I was watching the Star Wars trailer pop on Twitter, which it actually broke Twitter by the way for a second. Twitter definitely glitched. Like it stopped working for a moment. So I started watching the new Star Wars trailer

for that episode. What we need. No, what we need is there to just be Star Wars trailer after Star Wars trailer, after Star Wars trailer, and really just ruin it forever. Yeah. What, wait, what is this number? What number is this one?

Nine. Nine. Yeah, it's called Rise of the Skywalkers. Skywalker? Skywalker. Rise of Skywalkers, or is there an S? Rise of Skywalker. Okay, very vague.

There's a lot of questions, a lot of big questions being raised out there. Okay, so anyhow, I watched the trailer, which like I honestly think, I honestly feel through the entire trailer. I was like, yeah, I'm not feeling this. Like, I was like, this is kind of not doing it for me. It felt sort of like all of the expected things and also nothing, you know, it was like, oh, some people are fighting, like, Ray's jumping over a thing for no reason, I think. I'm trying to, I'm trying to understand the opening scene is like, Ray running ahead of a tie fighter, I believe. I'm not an expert on the aircraft of Star Wars, but, and then jumping over it.

But it's like, maybe just run the other, like, to the side instead of jumping over it. I feel like it'd be easier just to, if you can jump up, you could jump over. Anyhow, I thought to not to think when she did that was like just drop your lightsaber down, slice through the vehicle and then you're maybe get low. Yeah. You know what I do is I use my lightsaber to get dig a hole real quick and jump into the hole. Yeah.

Okay. Why run? Actually, if you dug the hole and got in there with the hole. Yeah. Okay, why run? Actually, if you dug the hole and got in there, I'm sure the lightsaber can cut the ground. And then you cut through the ground, you get down, then you hold the lightsaber up and you just like, it's just fucking chop that thing. Yeah, for exactly.

What was she doing jumping over so much effort? It's such a movie thing. It's like walking away from an explosion. It's exactly the same thing. It's like there's no good reason. Or three point landing like Spider-Man, which is like, oh, yeah. That's what you could do.

But it's 100% true that if something's exploding in a big way behind you, like you're gonna just take cover. Like even if you're far enough away that you don't think, like even if you're really far away, you're gonna kind of want to be able to crouch down behind something. Yeah, you never know if some shrapnel's gonna come flying out

of you, you're not looking at it especially. Okay, anyhow. So, so the whole time I'm like, whatever, I out of you. You're not looking at it especially. Okay, anyhow So so the whole time I'm like whatever. I don't care. This is just not doing it for me. I I didn't watch solo. I started solo. It's on Netflix. I started it and I was like, you know what? I got like 10 minutes in. I'm like I don't want to watch this like it just didn't I felt nothing. Yeah, okay I really did not like the last Jedi. I thought You know, it had a bunch of stuff in it that made no sense and was bad. It had a couple of things that were amazing.

Like there were some moments in the last Jedi that were truly amazing. And then there were a lot of moments where I was like, this is really fucking dumb. This is dumb. Like Casino town, I would have. I loved the last Jedi. And there were a couple of seconds in it

that I was like, this is stupid, this is stupid. But guess what? I thought about all the Star Wars. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Force away gets his tight. No, really? The monster fight with that monster comes out that like, no, that was fine. It was fine. That could have been fine. I mean, you could have been caught but it wasn't like I hated it.

Casino Town. I like it wasn't like. You know what, let's not be. Casino Town's I like it. It wasn't like... You know what? Casino Town's gonna be a great hotel in Disney World and I'm gonna love Disney World Plus whatever they're calling it. Okay, wait a second. So then, okay, so I watch trailer, I'm like whatever. But then, at the very end of the trailer, there is a laugh, which sounds exactly like Emperor Palpatine, my favorite character in the entire Star Wars universe,

the character that I root for personally. And then Ian McDermond, McDermond, the guy who plays him came out on stage at the Disney event. So I think what they're telling us, unless they're really fucking with the fans, in which case I think people will literally fucking riot, is that Emperor Palpatine is going to fucking pop back up in this episode. And if that's the case, I mean, I don't care what happens in the movie, honestly. I will give them all of my money. All I wanna see is Emperor Palpatine

doing some fucking lightning fingers. Yeah, it's a really bad stuff, shit. All I, I mean, he's gonna be fucked up. Can you imagine? I mean, honestly, first off, I mean, all of my dreams are about connecting like the phantom menace to the phyto, Sarwar's entry.

You know, like, you know, I mean, you know my theory about, you know, Snoke being the yaddle, which I think we cannot rule out. We may be able to rule back in. Given what we know, I mean, that Snoke that was killed could have been like a fake Snoke,

like a robot Snoke. Folk. Folk. And the actual Snoke is the yaddle hanging out with Emperor Palpatine. Having been turned to the dark side, it was yaddle and Palpatine after the, you know, he like crawled out of some fucking ooze or whatever. Anyhow, whatever it doesn't matter. The point is that Palpatine's going to be in the new Star Wars.

And I'm pretty excited about that. And if he's not, I'm going to kill everyone associated with Star Wars. Yeah, if we get some kind of like some like hologram message that's like, it's me, Ember of Palpatine popping up from the past. Yeah, from the past. Not information. Like, like, he knows my mind. Maybe like, Kyler has been working off like a bunch of tapes that he left behind. Yeah. It's like, he's got a, it's like Palpatine's master class on how to rule the empire. Hey guys. You're in a quick subscribe and like

it's ever pal ever Palpatine fucking vlog. He's like, if you were fight a skywalk, don't forget. It's like whatever. Okay. I don't know. That's not the Palpatine voice. In the next video, we prank people at the park. If you fucking Palpatine meek a appearance on Logan Paul's talk show doing the ice bucket challenge.

I'm sorry. This is all great content. We should do, I mean, honestly, we should quit what we're doing right now, both of us, and just start a fucking channel, which is Emperor Palpatine's vlog. And all this should all be happening. We be making so much money. I mean, we're quite big. We're quite big, Frank's.

Anyhow, so good. He goes on fucking the hot ones. You know, but like, he kills the hosts or whatever. He doesn't make up tutorial. Yeah, he needs it, you know what I'm saying? Do you see that guy's face? Not good. Not good.

It's crazy. Anyhow, okay, So there's that. So there's a new Star Wars company in December. And I gotta say I'm pretty excited now that there's a Palpatine laugh in it. And then Disney announced its streaming service Disney Plus, which I have to say, like, I'm gonna get. I mean, yeah, I'm definitely gonna get Disney+. I was thinking just for the fact that it's got all the kids' movies, all the stuff that

Zelda's into and all the shows, she's so completely hooklining Sanker in the Disney universe. I mean, once again, Disney owns 40% of all entertainment. So if they have everything, like their whole back catalog, it's a pretty easy purchase for $6.99 a month. Like they are doing what we told Apple to do, which was like, under like price it real low, make it available everywhere and just blow it out with content if this is what you want to do

because it's the only way to do it. No, and I have to say the other night I made the mistake of subscribing to CBS All Access for reasons that I assume drinking is probably the number one reason, but we watch a couple episodes of the, excuse me, watch a couple episodes of the Twilight Zone. Yeah.

And I actually found myself enjoying them more than I expected. Yeah, Jordan P.O. it can be relied upon. I mean, they're basically just like the old Twilight Zone in that they are kind of cheesy. Oh, totally. But they're kind of good. I mean, they're kind of like popcorn-y in a way that you want.

I mean, I feel like they've gotten a very bad rap because people are like, they think it's going to be like black mirror, which takes itself so seriously. Yeah. And it's like, I think that they, I mean, the whole thing with, with, with him sitting, doing the Rod Sarilyn thing is like, it's, it's almost like key and peel level, like it's sort of comical. I mean, maybe because it's him, but like, it's also, it kind of works. I like it.

I, I, I think the whole time, like, you know, I went into it with zero expectations. I did not want it to be black mirror. So I'm like happy. Yes. I went into it with zero expectations. I did not want it to be black mirror. So I'm like happy what I've seen. Yes, I think it stands on its own in a way that is very uniquely Twilight Zone. And that's good. Yeah, the Adam Scott one was pretty bad though.

I have to say. I mean, there's gonna be duds. It's not as if it's on its own original run had a perfect record. No, no, it didn't. I mean, there are episodes you definitely can skip. I mean, I's going to be duds. It's not as if they're going to own original run. How to perfect record. No, no, it didn't. I mean, there are episodes you definitely can skip. I mean, I've been going through watching the old Twilight Zone, so there are definitely episodes where I'm like, you know what?

I don't think I'm going to watch this one because who cares, really? I mean, also, there's some repeat plots in that original run. Like, like, the twists are basically- Oh, yeah. Oh, no, all the time. Dude, like, it's the doll comes to life and then it turns out that it's what was in the person's head. It's like, yeah, we did that six times.

Something like that. There's like a couple of plots that are just like, you think you're alive, but you're actually dead. Or like you think you're in a town, but you're a child's play thing. Or you think that you're a human, but you're an alien. Or you think someone's an alien, but they're actually human.

You're on a planet, but you're on another planet. Yeah think someone's an alien? But they're actually human. They draw one planet, but you're on another planet. Yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot that are like, astronauts crash land somewhere, and they're like, we crash landed on a planet, and it's like very planet of the apes where it's like, wait a second, we're in Arizona, and I just killed everyone. Yeah, or that's an actual, or they're like,

we're on earth, and we're definitely on earth, earth, earth, earth, earth. And yeah, no, we're on earth and we're definitely on earth earth earth earth earth earth No, we're not we're somewhere other than It's the exact opposite plot. Yeah, it's like yeah, no, it's but you know, it's still fucking good anyhow I mean, I'm the age is still a great movie So so Disney so the Disney plug-in you back to Disney plus so I got CBS all access Which I'm definitely immediately regretting like I'm like what am I gonna watch? I'm like like I am I going to watch? I'm like, what?

Watch the good fight. Yeah, actually, several people have been like, you should watch the good fight. And now I'm like, maybe I should watch the good fight. I love the good wife of until Josh Charles kicked the bucket. Sorry, spoiler alert. Do we talk about this last week? This is years ago. It's fine.

Oh my god. Anyhow, but I feel like it was not a good use of my money, but I do think the Disney Plus would be good use of my money with the new- I mean, there's gonna be one good Star Wars and one good Marvel series out of the bunch that they've launched. Some of them are gonna be duds,

some of them are gonna be pretty good. They're gonna have every movie and TV show that they've ever released and there's gonna be some weird new original stuff that we're like, oh, everybody's really into, you know, Chapsticks and Wallets, this is just something I just saw. Oh, everyone really into, you know, chapsdicks and wallets. This is just something I just saw. Oh, everyone's into, you know, Ryan's cat,

the new show on Disney Plus, and they're gonna come out. Oh, yeah, right. And they'll have something at least once every month or so. That's like, I mean, so good because there did. Nope. I mean, nobody's more capable of producing content that people want to see than Disney. Oh, no.

So it's good. You know what I'm saying? Like, if they can do half of what Netflix has done, which they definitely can, there's gonna be a reason to have it. Yeah. But here know what I'm saying? Like, if they can do half of what Netflix has done, which they definitely can, there's gonna be a reason to have it. Yeah, but here's what's annoying to me. I, so by the way, first of all, I'm like seriously considering going back to cable.

Like, I actually think this entire thing with streaming stuff has been an engineering project to get people to go back to cable. Because like, so I have Direct TV now, and they have like a DVR, and I'm like DVRing SNL. So I'm like, oh, like last night we didn't see it when it aired. I'm like, oh, we can watch it where DVRing,

it's like it's not there. It's not really a DVR, it's like Hulu light or something where it'll like show up later but not at a indeterminate moment or something. And it's like, it's the buggyest app I've ever used. It's complete trash. And every time I use it, I'mgyest app I've ever used. It's complete trash. And every time I use it, I'm like, I should just get a fucking cable box, you know? And like love. And now, and now like, with like Disney Plus and Netflix and Hulu and CBS All Access,

I know everybody talks about this all the time, but it really is so shitty for end users. It is so shitty for consumers of content, which is like, you know, My cable box sucks and it is a piece of trash from like 2004 and it hasn't been updated in blah blah But guess what? I can watch everything live Reliably everything I asked it to record it records. It gets me access into all the apps I can watch you know streaming on every screen in my own apartment. It like it's not it you know, streaming on every screen in my own apartment. It's not the actual functionality and the way the UI is built, nightmare.

But the fact that everything is there, and then with Netflix and Hulu and like, I guess Disney plus and like. Wait, wait, wait, wait, what do you have? Oh, no, no, no, I don't, it doesn't come with Netflix and Hulu, but my sprint subscription comes with Hulu for free. So I just paid Netflix and I basically have everything

in that whole roll up. Yeah, but at some point, someone's just gonna come along and roll all of these. No, they're not. They're not gonna do. That's the thing that everybody's setting out their little weird fiefdom. I think Apple's like, we'll be the center of this,

but Netflix says, no, you won't. And I guarantee you the Disney and all these other people are gonna be like, no, you won't, because they're not gonna put their shit on their platform. Like you maybe will make it searchable, but you're still jumping from app to app. Like, like, there is a, let's put it this way. If it weren't for this insane competition that somebody's going to be like the top, the winner of TV. Okay. There is a solution, a completely, of TV. There is a solution, a completely knowable, obvious solution for making content experiences better for consumers that no one can accomplish or achieve because of the way that everybody's

building these walls around their ecosystems. This is the story of all of the worst moments in technology is some of the best, sure, assuredly, like, you know, look at Apple in many ways. But like, that moment where you're like, okay, all of this stuff is available, but it's all talking, speaking a different language. And now we have these like weird intermediaries that speak some of the language, but not all of it. And you're like, it really is a fucking nightmare for consumers.

Yeah. I mean, it is a nightmare for consumers. It's a nightmare for like my dad has no idea how to watch anything or where it is. And he just ends up just opening the Netflix app and finding something he wants to watch as opposed to the thing he wanted to watch because he truly has no idea how any of it works

or like how to get to any of it. He basically has this smart TV set up to just open Netflix. And then his TV in the living room is set up just to open cable. And so if you watch something live, that's where he watches it. If you watch something in Netflix, that's where he watches it. And he's just terrified to mess with any of it. And I know that that's like a dying off generation.

But even people my age at this point have so many logins floating around and places to watch. And then I'm like, have you watched drag rays? And they're like, oh, I stopped watching because it switched to VH1 and I don't have that in my package. So I'll buy it when it's on iTunes. But right now I need a login and I don't want that in my package. So I'll buy it when it's on iTunes, but you know, right now I need a login and I don't want to pay for cable.

And there's a whole thing. And I'm like, this is a nightmare. This isn't good. This isn't a good experience. Yeah. No, it's, it's um, it's so, so anyhow, the, I guess it's, look, it's a luxury. Okay. I mean, we're talking about a luxury situation where like you have access to

all of the possible movies and TV you could ever want to watch. So I guess like it's hard to kind of form a real complaint about it because it's like, oh wow, you have to like work a little bit harder to watch a movie or a TV show. It's like, yeah, true, but this is where it's all headed. This is what everybody's kind of being airdropped into. And you want it to be a good experience for consumers at any level. And it isn't, you know, it just is not. I mean, this is why I wonder if like something like the Kavo, which somehow supersedes all of it and takes a layer away from it. And I haven't used the Kavo enough to get a sense of, I know you've used it.

It takes a layer of just abstraction and puts it on top of all of this stuff and is like, okay, I'm gonna do this for you. That may be the ultimate thing because it is like, I don't care what the other things are doing, I don't care what the language of these things are. If you have Netflix, if you have Disney Plus, if you have this, I will find it, I'll get it on and you don't have to think about it.

I think if it can work well, like using, if it can actually read the screen and use machine learning all that shit. It just works on the TV because then when you go to your phone and you wanna watch something on the go, then you have 1,900 apps to do. What you need is like,

Kavo needs to basically be a brain that can stream to other devices. Yeah, and it needs to be. Which then will create some kind of regulatory hell world that Kavo will put Kavo out of business if they're not already going out of business. It's going to be movie past 2.0. But anyhow, but I'm excited in the sense

that I think that they're going to do a good job with the service. Yeah. There's gonna be a lot of shows on it. And I'm glad that they've removed the layer of having to make deals with Hulu and Netflix and O.A. Yeah, but what happens? But what happens with... So apparently they're gonna include Hulu in the package.

Yeah. So listen, if Hulu's included, I mean, that's really big. I mean, that's huge to me. But then it's like, it's CBS and all these other people that are gonna start pulling their shit off of Hulu because it's like, why would I wanna make it available to like the Disney Plus subscriber when I could have it over in my CBS All Access app or whatever?

I don't know, whatever. The point is, what really sucks is like, are we gonna be in a situation where things just never show up on Netflix, like movies, never show up on Netflix, like movies, never show up in Netflix, or can they not ignore that size of that audience? I think we're gonna be in a situation where Disney movies won't show up on Netflix, yes, because they don't care how big that audience is, they're just gonna root for it.

They have such a war chest and such good movies that once they've marketed Disney plus to every mom and dad in America, they really don't care if some college student has a Netflix subscription and is trying to not buy Disney or whatever, and plus they're surface. But I mean, but I mean, people get nets, I mean, they make money off of Netflix. Like, it's not like you're not making money

off of that licensing deal. Yeah, but I think they're thinking long term. Yeah, I guess so. Anyhow, I'm like cautiously optimistic about it. I'm mad about the fact that there's gonna be so many. I mean, one thing I'm not worried about is Apple's thing. Like, it just doesn't feel at all to me like it. Listen, there's already too much TV.

I mean, honestly. Apple's thing at this point with this Disney stuff and whatever else, like Apple's thing is gonna fail. There's gonna be a couple of shows that are must watch on it and then it will die on the vine. And I also think CBS, if they don't step their shit up, they're just gonna end up reselling their shows to another service.

I think just having like CBS shows that, I mean, I was impressed that Twilight Zone has swearing and stuff in it, that's cool. I think if they're kind of making it their HBO, that's great, but they need to like step up. I think Star Trek, New Twilight Zone, and then they're like, we also have every, I love Lucy episode. Yeah, they're like, you can watch, you know, rewatch all big bang theory. It's like, okay, cool, New Twilight Zone, and then they're like, we also have every I love Lucy episode.

Yeah, they're like, you can watch, rewatch all big bang theory. It's like, okay, cool, but that's not $7 a month, it's not worth it, you know? All right, let's jam through a couple of other things because we don't have a ton of time, and I wanna get through some other topics. Can we talk about this Pepsi constellation story?

Oh, of course we can. So John Christian, who's a great writer, who is, I guess he's writing at Futurism now, which is a site that I know very little about, but I gotta say this story that's gonna make a lot of people read Futurism. He got a scoop that Pepsi is working with. This is the one of the most dystopian stories

I've ever seen in my entire life. It is such an incredible piece of like, if this was in a fucking science fiction book, you'd be like, that'll never happen. That's so far out there. Pepsi is working with a Russian rocket company that is basically like, we can make a fake constellation in the sky for you as an ad. Like people will look up at the night sky and see a constellation, but it won't be stars. It'll be an ad for Pepsi.

And it'll be an ad for a Pepsi product that is apparently an energy drink aimed at dispelling rumors and bad narratives about gamers. Like basically aimed at clearing the name of game regators or something, or at game regators. I don't know what, it's like, it's as if you've had those little words that people put on their fridges to make funny poems,

but they were all horrible things, and then you just shuffled them around and you're like, it's a space constellation made by a global food processor for an energy drink about gamer game. It's completely nuts. It's a great story. I can't do it just by talking about all I can say is it's horrendous, but also like

who's to stop them. I mean, nobody owns the sky. You know, well, yeah, but I mean, like, this is going to happen, right? I mean, is there any regulation that can stop us from happening? I mean, it's above Earth. Like once you get the rocket out there, like no one, even if they were like, yeah, we don't want you to do this. What are they gonna do?

Fly a rocket, another rocket up there and blow up your fake constellation. I will say that if they think that Kendall Jenner thing went over poorly, they need to see how everyone's gonna feel when they cannot get away. Pepsi, Pepsi needs a new market. They need to see how everyone's going to feel when they cannot get away. They seriously need a new marketing team. It's like the logo thing, which was like a running joke for ages about their insane 100 page logo PDF. If you ever, by the way, if you haven't seen it, it's so good. It's like a find Pepsi logo PDF somewhere and read through it. It's like the deck that they're designed for and presented them it's like the deck that their design firm presented them about like how the new Pepsi logos at like the center of all things in life.

It is the most- It was essentially like it was like the number 42 or like or like the ancient runes and lost or whatever like. Yeah, yeah. This is the most complicated like this logo has the power of a god. No, it's like, it's either the most incredible parody, like, you know, it's the most incredible, subtle parody of all time, or it's like exactly what you think is going on all the time when like major corporations try to come up with like, new logos where it's, like they have to tell themselves

so many crazy lies to justify like a very minor and not necessary graphic design change. But also the people who are doing it have to justify getting paid millions of dollars to like sell them on a new logo, which probably took them 20 minutes to make. And yes, there's that. It's an amazing story. There's this Facebook story. They shipped a bunch of Oculus controllers with messages like Big Brother is watching. Yeah. All I can say, I understand like probably with some kind of in joke for the dev version or shipped a bunch of Oculus controllers with messages like Big Brother is watching. Yeah. All I can say, I understand like probably with some kind of in joke for the dev version or something. Or maybe it was some kind of marketing scheme

that nobody ever figured out. So they didn't become like a new story. And before the new Oculus comes out, they want to get that story out there so they could get their little round of awareness that Facebook makes virtual reality products. I mean, maybe all I could say is that like, it's one of those things where you're like, I tweeted about this as well. I mean, maybe, all I could say is that, like, it's one of those things where you're like,

I tweeted about this as well. I mean, I don't want to repeat myself, but it is, I'm sort of like, it's incredible because sometimes Facebook fucks up in a way where you're like, that doesn't seem like you should even be able to fuck up in that way. Like, it should be hard for you to do something that bad and dumb.

It would be really difficult to do secret etching of messages that like, like somewhere along the chain, somebody should have been like, wait a second, we're not gonna put that on there, right? There's like, it should have been like probably a hundred people who saw it, who might have been like, wait a second, and they didn't. I think they wanted to have their own little I love bees

and it didn't work, so now they're like, accidentally, like, come on. It's weird. There's a lame, you suck, marketing suck. It's really bad. I don't know. Anyhow, this is that thing. Um, let's see. What else? What do we really want to hit here on our journey? Coming back today? Oh, yeah, we did. That's right. Well, I should say we're recording this late because of all the travel and stuff.

Um, next week, we will not be late. But um, I know, but this is real now. We got, we have an actual podcast space and the new in the office that we're not fully moved into, but we have access to, which is the the BDG, the bus all office, which is fantastic. There's there's all kinds of stuff there like cold brew and uh, diacokes and I'm mainly interested in the beverages, but also a podcast room, so that's fantastic. We're getting back to normalcy. But the, wait, were we talking about? You're going to throw this coming back and the outline. Oh, yeah, Game of Thrones. One day of coverage.

We did. Yeah, Jeremy was like, there's so much, the content machine for Game of Thrones is so ridiculous and insane. Like, he's like, I think it might be fun to do one day, where we do a bunch of Game of Thrones content. And so as part of that, we did a one, I think it'll end up being probably a single shot. We're not going to do more of them. An episode of Out West, which is our Westworld theory show called Out Westros, which was Jeremy's brainchild. And you know, I got to say, I forgot about a lot of shit that happened on the show. I'm excited for its return.

I don't want it to end. It just wanted to end. I'm so sick of it over it. It feels like it's been coming back for a hundred years. I've been seeing these iron throes dropped in places in photoshoots here and marketing thing here in a Buzzfeed video with Sansa eating popsicles or whatever. I'm done.

I am done with Game of Thrones and the content of it all. It was a good show. It's a it all. It was a good show. It's a fine show. It's a great show. My favorite show of all time is Buffy. And if they did any of this for Buffy, I would have stopped watching Buffy. I'm so excited.

It's very entertaining. I will say this, like, the show's tremendously entertaining and I've enjoyed it. I can't say there's ever been a moment where, like, I was like, no, I'm out. I mean, there were moments that definitely pushed buttons, but like, there was a lot of rape stuff that I was like, yeah, I mean, the rape stuff is,

I mean, there's horrible men all over the show. I mean, one of Laura's theories is that by the end of the show, all the men are dead, because like, you know, a few seasons together, the whole thing was like, all men must die. And I'm like, that would be fucking pretty sick, if it literally every man died. Bad for ultimately for pro creation, but they'll figure it out.

Get a few white walkers going or something. Anyhow, but getting back on topic. I think Game of Thrones is fine and great and I love it. Yeah, it's a good show. I'm just sick of all this like churn. I just just put back to what we were talking about. I feel like there's gonna be whole websites that go out of business after Game of Thrones goes off the air.

Oh, hell yeah. are a whole TV recap sites that their entire business model predicates on like Game of Thrones and a couple of other things, they minorly, and they have whole podcast studios. Like if Game of Thrones whole season dropped at once, that would shutter the media model for a few websites. But I'm like, I'm into it, but honestly, I've never, I've read some things, I've read

a couple of recaps here there because you're going to happen upon them in the many years of its existence. But I've never really felt about Game of Thrones the way I feel about a lot of other things, which is like, I want to go deep on the lore and read up on all the theories, because I think maybe because there's so much of it, because George R. Martin has been so detailed in his books, and there's so many fans of the books that have really gone to like tremendous effort to kind of piece it together,

that it's almost like daunting. And so then the content recap sort of ecosystem that lives around it has also not seemed like something that was, that I was that interested in. And so I don't know, I mean, I assume a lot of people read that stuff, listen to it, whatever. I mean a lot do.

Yeah, but I guess, yeah, I just, I never, it never connected with me. It never felt to me like I had to be a voracious sort of. No, you just do that for Westworld. Well, yeah, I mean, well, Westworld's like, they were like, what if lost, but 10 acts and without any, even less of a point and less of a story? They're like, what, yeah.

They're like, what if we did Lost, but really, really didn't give a shit about finding answers to these questions? And nobody likes any of the characters. How about that? I don't know, I'm a big fan of what characters. They're all interchangeable now. They're like, Jeffrey Wright is Evan Rachel Wood and I don't fucking know it's okay anyhow you want to

talk a little bit about some politics maybe maybe about Julian Assange. Oh yeah let's talk about Julian Assange and his cat. Yeah so okay so the cat thing I'm just catching up on, well let's just hold on, this is for everybody, so everybody knows I assume people listening. Now, Julian Assange was arrested at the Ecuadorian Embassy and is being extradited to America to face charges on, I don't know, being a creep on the dance floor.

Okay, he's got conspiracy hacking indictment. Yeah, so, okay, so Julian Assange was, has been arrested and he's being extradited to the US, apparently, on a charge that he conspired to hack military computers, which is like related to the, related to the Chelsea Manning case. related to the Chelsea manning, obviously, to the Chelsea manning case.

But it's like really thin and bad. It's like, they basically are saying that he tried to help her crack a password to access military computers. So it's like spying, I guess. Yeah. And it's a pretty weak charge. And look, I'm not going to defend Julian Assange, I think he's actually pretty awful. I think he's done some... Of course.

I think like he's actually done some things that have been good in the past. There are things that he's done that have been important in terms of leaking shit that government transparency and like whistleblower leaks are good things. It doesn't make him a good person, or he'll be like, I'm not gonna write off everything the guys ever done, but I will say that his later stage existence has been seeming to me, seems universally pretty fucking bad,

and he seems to be positioned fighting the wrong people in the wrong ways. But this whole case is very suspicious and strange. It's also crazy because Trump loves WikiLeaks and literally was high-fiving WikiLeaks during his campaign. Now he's like, WikiLeaks, not really my thing. He's like, yeah, I mean, of course it doesn't matter.

I mean, Trump literally everything he says is garbage, it does not matter. If I had to work with him, if I was a politician or a worker, then I'd be like, literally nothing he says is meaningful, and we should just ignore it because he's a complete fucking liar. But anyhow, so it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out because it sets a lot of really fairly wild precedents for what you can do in terms of going after people who are involved in leaking, you know, in leaking

documents. And I think that they've got a pretty thin case here, but it might not matter because it's like the fix is kind of in. You know, I mean, they're going to, yeah, they're going to railroad him. Do you think there's any chance, I want to give you a little conspiracy theory for a second, is there any chance that Julian Assange has access to or something really serious on Trump and Trump's strategy for getting him away from releasing that or even talking about it is to get him into some solitary confinement? Or to get him in a position where like he wants to pardon and they make a deal with some kind.

Or to get him in a position where he can give him information on other people that Assange has. I mean, this is a completely ridiculous experience. We're now. We're now. Yeah, we're now in like alias. Yeah, yeah, but it would be, you know, I mean, we're living in kind of a science fiction world

as we've previously discussed. So it would be the craziest thing in the world. Anyhow, so that's stories unfolding, but then there's this other side story which is his cat, what is going on with his cat? I don't know anything about his cat. Can you fill me in on this? So he was saying in the Ecuadorian Embassy and he had a very contentious relationship with them because he didn't have like basic hygiene

and he couldn't keep his space clean. And he had a cat that like he was, I guess like was his companion and he was not caring for it in a healthy way. And so after he was like, after he was arrested and has left the embassy, the internet kind of exploded with people being like, where's the cat, is the cat taking care of? And it was kind of a cutesy story and then it was kind of a serious story

because it was like what actually happens in this kind of a situation? So after Assange left and smeared human shit all over the walls of the Victorian embassy, we've all been there. The internet kind of tried to track down where the cat would be and what would have happened to it. I think it ends up that the cat is fine, but it was a weird point of entry for this into the story for a bunch of people who did not understand what was going on.

It was the internet doing a thing and digesting the news stories in the strangeest way possible. It ends up the cat's fine and very cute. It was just interesting to watch people like metabolize the story through the lens of like caring about an internet famous cat because you wore a bow tie, like his welfare or whatever. Yeah. It was very strange. Yeah.

I, it's interesting. I mean, it makes sense that Julian Assange would have a cat, like that all checks out to me. It's sort of like, you know, evil bond villain of him to have a cat. I feel like not that he's a villain, but well, he's not a guy. I mean, you start smearing shit on walls. Yeah, I don't know. He looks, I mean, he looks at the scene. He looks truly wild in the photos that I've seen of him.

He's got a definite look going on, like a guy who's been at the Ecuadorian Embassy for seven years or whatever. So, like, he definitely looks like when a villain in a movie, like, like the fourth sequel, the villain from the first movie emerges, and he's been living in a cave. Yeah, no, he looks like the villain from Mission Impossible who shows up in the new movie or the movie before it and he's got a beard and stuff. He's like, he's a red head, so it's crazy. There's human shit all over the wall. Again, I just wanna make sure I bring those about the human shit.

He's weird all over the wall. Thank you, God. Anyhow, that's it. I don't know what else there is to say. It's kind of a mess. I'll say this, let Chensley Manning out of prison. And I would like to know what is actually going on. I don't think that we, this is one of those news stories

that like, will we see Trump's tax returns and understand the bar's like redacted version of the Mueller report? Like all of that seems like an advantage they'll come out. This surely an athonge stuff. I, for all the talk of transparency and wiki leaks and leaking and whistle blowing, I kind of think we're never going to hear what's really the fuck going on.

It's so obfuscated through so many layers and governments and stories and weird figures and Guccifers and like, bullshit. I totally don't understand what's happening half the time. And I really am following the news to it. It is always, there is always that kind of that angle where you're like, is it this big, well thought out, totally planned conspiracy? Or is it a crazy person spreading human shit on the wall?

And are all these things that, this is like, you know, the Mueller report is like, it's like, oh, it's, you know, we connect the dots, you get the fucking pinboard with the string or whatever, you know, but it's like, you go full matter. But know, we connect the dots, you get the fucking pin board with the string or whatever, you know, but it's like, you go full matter. But like, and I think I've, we've talked about this before, it's like, I believe Trump is like a bad businessman,

super shady, definitely a criminal, definitely involved in criminal enterprises in all sorts of ways. Definitely has dealings with shady people and probably shady Russian people. But it's also possible that there isn't a literal chain of command from Putin to Trump. That doesn't mean that Putin and Trump aren't communicating

in a way that is extremely shady and bad. But people want there to be this, and I just think they're just bad fuck-ups in a way. All the people around Trump, I mean, it is insane that so many of them have been indicted for so many different things and gone to jail for so many different things. But it's like not like they went to jail for being, you know, secret Russian spies. They went to jail for being like shitty people who do criminal things and get caught because once you look at them, you're like, wait, this person's a criminal. So, you know, I do

think it's like, we all, we were looking at this and everybody, you're like, wait, this person's a criminal. So, you know, I do think it's like, we're looking at this and everybody's trying to like, all these like armchair, you know, conspiracy theorists are trying to put together the pieces. I mean, you know, way, I'm not saying that like the people who are like, oh, there's a Russian conspiracy, and they're not QAnon because QAnon is a complete fabrication. But it's like, you take those pieces separately

and it seems like you can stitch them together, but actually maybe they're just separate instances of a bunch of really bad shitty people fucking up and doing bad things. And it's like, we'll never understand it because there's not anything to understand except like bad people make bad decisions, dumb people make dumb decisions, and eventually some of that comes to light. Yeah, it just seems like a bunch of chaos over the course of decades involving lots of money and several different countries.

And one of those idiots ends up being president. There's a big giant mess of bullshit in his wake and he's going to continue to make bad decisions that are informed by that. And it should all come to light. We should understand the full scope of all of this. But I think people think that there's going to eventually be some email chain where I like Putin's like, hey, I need you to do this. And Trump is like, definitely, sir. You know what I mean?

Like, that's not. Yeah, it's not going to, that's probably doesn't make this. All right, let's quickly hit a couple of wild things. So the Trans Soldier ban has taken effect. It's on top of the fact that there are a bunch of immigrants who enrolled in the army in order to gain US citizenship or at least residency at some point. And now they don't want to give them that

and they don't want them to be working, but they also can't go back to their home countries because they're considered foreign enemies now because they worked for the US army. Because they went in the army, yeah. And I mean, all there's, there's a whole mess of people who are highly skilled and talented people who want to help out the US Army. They went in the army, yeah. I mean, all, there's a whole mess of people who are highly skilled and talented people

who want to help out the US Army, whether or not you agree with what the US Army does in the world. There's a bunch of people who with lots of talents who want to work and do work for this administration or at least protect our country. Yeah, for the time being. And they're like thumbing their nose at them in the soup but it's over the stupidest bullshit possible. It's hard not to see

It's kind of hard not to see how I mean it's kind of amazing how Trump has made so many things that are truly not Problems into problems and it's it's it's pretty easy to see now at this point How what his like sort of strategy is I mean if he can be said to have one, he obviously is racist. He obviously is in a fan of gay people and trans people. That seems fairly clear based on his actions. And the political end to this seems to me to create controversies about things

that are actually uncontroversial. And now, listen, for the trans people, the military who fought for many, many years to actually be accepted as a part of the US military, this is insanely bad. And who, frankly, contribute way more than they take from the military, even if the military was to cover the expenses of their early transition? Well, that's such a... I mean, we're talking about was to cover the expenses of their early transition on. That's such a, I mean, we're talking about a fucking rounding error amount of people. It's not 40% of the army is trans, you know?

It's like, it's a very small amount of. But it is, it's a large portion of the trans community, like it is, it's a large percentage of the trans community that does go into the military. And all of those people generally are a higher talent and ability than other groups of people, just because a larger percentage of them go in from different skill levels. I mean, yeah, I mean, but what I guess what I'm getting at is like, this is something done for no reason except to hurt people and to create an issue that will be a battleground issue in some way, some kind of battle that Trump wants

people to have be having about ideology. It's not about, this is not about whether they're fit to serve. That's all bullshit. That's all been dealt with. The military is like, yeah, trans people can serve. That already happened. Now we're walking it back in a way that's just meant to divide people and to hurt people. You know, and it's the same thing with this, this, everything he's doing with immigration, obviously with immigration. I mean, there wasn't

when Obama, now there were, we had, we've had immigration problems in this country for a long time. Like, we definitely need to do a better job at how immigration works in America. That's obvious, but when Obama was president and when George Bush was president, there were, these were issues, there were, there were issues with immigration. And Obama was no prince when it came to this shit. But it was not the biggest issue of our time. It was not something we were fighting about every day. It was not the number one topic on American television

stations every day. And he's made it that. And he's made it that way because it's, I mean, he's a racist and he's trying to keep, you know, brown people out of the country. But he also wants people to be mad at brown people. He wants to be, he wants people to be mad at people from other countries. He wants America to think there's something wrong with people who aren't white Americans. And so it's like extremely transparent what he's doing. The problem is it's working, I think, like for his base and for Republicans,

it seems to be working. Like, they seem to be responding favorably to this concept. And he's made it the number one issue that everybody talks about. And so now it's an issue that he kind of owns and controls the message on every fucking day. So it's really frustrating. I'm not saying it's not an issue.

There are people that we need to care for who are coming into this country, who are coming in for very real and good reasons. That's what America does. It's actually like part of America basically. Basically. What bothers me is it's just like these people who are coming into, like immigrants who are coming in and enrolling

or trans people who enroll in the military. They're willing to put their lives on the line for a country that does not give a shit about them expressly. And to shit on them above all else in order to like rally your base for one week, it's like keep your poll number two points higher or whatever. It's so sickening and disgusting and transparent. And it's actually shocking to me that over the course of so many years, people have not even begun to wise up to any of this. Well, I mean, there's

the people who aren't wise enough are people who like it. Honestly, I mean, I think they're people who are like, you know, either, I mean, they either don't understand it or they like it. I mean, I think that anybody, I mean, you can't tell me there are Democrats who are like Wow, I agree with a Trump's doing. I mean he was like we want to release, you know Asylum seekers to sanctuary cities as like a weird threat and it's like look I mean on the one hand So you know places where there are sanctuaries are places where people want to take care of people who need sanctuary. I mean, we did a great story on this years ago. And if you talk to people who are in those cities, they're like, yeah, we welcome immigrants,

we welcome people who need our help. So it's like, weirdly, Trump's concept is is like in some ways, maybe his first good immigration proposal, which is like, um, bring those people to places where they can get help. But like it's all he's doing it as a threat. Like we're going to dump a bunch. We're going to like put a bunch of people on trains or buses and draw the money. No, that short term, there's no logistical way. Like these cities aren't necessarily prepared logistically for this.

Right. However, long term, these people are welcome and they will be enriching for those cities and they'll have skills and labor to offer those places. So go ahead and do it, I guess. I mean, the crazy thing is that, people even trying to get into the country is going down.

It's actually trending downward. There's a lot of people leaving the country, you know? And I was seriously considering. No, he's like, we're full. I mean, it's just so transparent. The whole thing is just such a racism based sort of like piece of policy that he's trying to push through. The wall is a great example.

It's like this weird theater that doesn't really, it just has no basis in reality. Yeah, everyone says it has no basis in reality. Every Republican knows just has no basis in reality. Everyone says it has no basis in reality. Every Republican knows it has no basis in reality, and they have to keep going with it. And it's truly like we're living in this like weird state of delusion where we just have to play along

until a more sane person gets into control of the country. Anyhow, all right, I'm getting depressed by politics and it's like you said, it's all so much bad stuff that you came back to. We should probably do. We should wrap up. We should do good things. Is there anything else?

Any other nice thing to talk about before we get into the good things? Let's just get into nice things. Sorry, finalist. All right, you want to start? It's going to be nice. Let's do nice things. I just loved Paris. That was one of my nice things.

Everything I did was great. I loved Disneyland. Their Disneyland is so much cleaner than ours. I know I keep saying clean, but it's like shocking how orderly and mannered and like, you know, the wait times on rides were 20 minutes and everybody was just like helpful and friendly and I was just like, God, our Disney world in Disneyland

are just like complete bad lumb like shit show of people screaming and running around. And I don't know, it was just like God our Disney world in Disneyland or just like complete bebloom like shit show of people screaming and running around and I don't know it was just nice. The whole of Paris was nice I went to Versailles and the Louvre and a lot of touristy things and it was really nice. So that was it. The other nice thing was while I was there I read Ladies Who Punch which is the new like kind of like a history of the view as told by a bunch of former co-hosts and staffers. Something like 150 interviews about the show and it's fascinating and it really documents a period of transition in American media from objective reporting to more opinion-based performance news and like morning shows being less objective reporting or like nice coffee conversation about American Idol over to sort of a theater of

of opinion and a theater of the absurd and the hashing out of issues which in some ways brought new people into an interest into politics and an interest into and a theater of the absurd and the hashing out of issues, which in some ways brought new people into an interest into politics and an interest into serious discussion of policy or of social issues or of art in a way that they wouldn't have been but it also is a dumbed down version of it and it's resulted in just like Megan McCain and Joy Behar like in a cold war over control over like the table I guess at the view.

It's just sort of fascinating because Barbara Walters was the pinnacle at one time of objective reporting of both celebrity and politics and her golden goose for that show, like her big, like her white whale, her like, her like both her prize and the thing that she's so hard was a Monica Lewinsky interview. And she finally got it on 2020 and they spent months on the view hyping it up. And it's so interesting because that was a news story

that was a perfect mix of serious and complete bullshit. And the movie, the book sort of crests in a movie like cinematic way the night, because Rosio Donald and Donald Trump's original feud was during the view, and he came on the view several times to talk about politics, and it was a big platform for him for a long time, and the whole book sort of crests on the night

of his election, thinking that there would be a woman president and that this show would have helped usher in an age of women being taken seriously. And in a way, it also ushered in a circus of opinion and of the absurd that Trump used to get into office. And all of that is sort of painted in this book. And the book isn't perfect.

It's definitely gossipy. And the writer is good friends with Megan McCain, which let the back half of the book is a little too soft on her, I would say. But the book is really good. And it's definitely worth picking up. And you will learn so much about Rosie O'Donnell, who I love and worship and will keep in her insanity forever.

And it's just great. It definitely picked it up. It's really good. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. I remember when the view came on the air and it was like, wow, like a bunch of women talking. This is unusual. But it was definitely like, I felt like originally it

was much more like topics for ladies, you know? Like I was like, I felt like that was the way it was sold. For lady discussion. It was like, yeah, celebrity gossip and like, you know, you're eating, it was all kind of Oprah-ish, like in the way that Oprah focused on women's issues a lot of the time, but it was like a group of women. But it actually evolved, it definitely was like,

it was kind of crazily evolved into this like weird thing that's like an actual conversation. Things news is broken on the view. Like people talk, like conversations they have on the view somehow become like. The president and the first lady regularly visited the view, which is such a weird thing. And it's just weird because like the view, even if you have no interest in it,

it had such a central role and it still kind of does in a lot of people's understanding of media. And so it just creates, it's a whole little universe and it was run by a bunch of like complete idiots and it's just crazy. As usual. All right, good. What else, anything else from you?

That's it, that's all my nice stuff. Oh, also, I was really hoping that chilling adventures of Sabrina season two was gonna be my top nice thing above Paris, above everything. And it is most definitely not it. It's bad. It's very bad.

So I haven't been able to get through the first season. I just, it just doesn't hold my attention that much. Like Laura's completely not into it. Like she doesn't like any of the Riverdale, any of that stuff. You know that I, you know that I, so actually my nice thing is sort of somewhat related to Sabrina. So you know that I started following Col my nice thing is sort of somewhat related to Sabrina.

So you know that I started following Coles Sprouse on Instagram. And Coles Sprouse is like friends of like Karen and Chippga and like Christian Coppola and all these like weird young like Hollywood people. And so I, not just them, I started following a bunch of those people, but I also started following a bunch of like random art accounts and like design accounts

and like people that I don't know that I just seem interesting or doing interesting things. And like, one of my nice things is just like following, just like getting outside of your bubble by just following things that seem interesting and good on social networks. Like I do think Instagram is a place where you can just kind of sit back and enjoy and not have to engage,

which is great. And so like finding more things to sit back and enjoy there has been like when I do open it, not just seeing like my friends dogs or whatever is probably in a way like kind of good. It's like, you know what I mean? Like it's fine for it to be super personal, but yeah, we're click on the comments. It doesn't have to. Yeah, I don't read. I don't, I mean, I try not to, I try not to read the comments. Um, and so I think that like getting, like following random people

you think are interesting or following, you know, accounts that you think are interesting on Instagram can be very good. Although Instagram turns out there's a ton of really bad shit on Instagram. The other thing, my other nice thing is I have, this is a sort of similar, uh, on a similar, uh, track. I have, uh, kind of like expanded my use of Pinterest to be for more than just things. Like I was using Pinterest in a very pretty much like house related way, like things for like,

oh, I'm thinking about like, you know, getting a new sofa here's like sofas that I'm looking at or like just like very utilitarian for like house stuff for the most part. And it turns out like there's all kinds of stuff on Pinterest, like if you just start like looking for things you're interested in. So I've started using it like, I've boards where I'm collecting weird retro game stuff.

I have a board where I'm collecting clothes that I'm kind of into or I think are interesting. I've got a design one, an art one. It's very much a similar vein where I'm branching out. I guess it's somewhat born of boredom with these services, but I'm just sort of like, I need to get, if I'm going to spend any time on them, it needs to be less like single-minded. And so, and maybe that's like an evolution of social media where like, yes, it's nice to have like my personal circle, but like my personal circles are really increasingly like, group chats that I'm in and like actual human interaction,

with people that I really know and care about. And like my social interactions are increasingly like, and maybe this is just because of me, because of who I am and having to deal with a certain level of always interacting with people you don't really know, that I'm just sort of like, those are more for like, impersonal, pleasurable, not challenging or heavy like interactions. Yeah.

So, I don't know. Anyhow, those are my nice things. We need more of those. We need less Twitter and more of those. All right, so those are my nice things. And, you know, on that note, I feel like there's only one thing left to do, which is, which is wrap up. More of what? more of one. Well, that is our show for this week.

We'll be back next week with more tomorrow, and as always, I wish you and your family the very best. Though, I've just learned that your family has been invited on Emperor Palpatine's vlog, and I don't think it's just a talk. you