Tomorrow - 159: The End of the Game

Episode Date: April 27, 2019

Ryan spent 56 hours watching every single Marvel movie in an uninterrupted stream and Josh is here, in disbelief, to ask him about it. Spoiler alert: Ryan is not doing well. In other news, Joe Biden w...ants to be president and Ariana Grande is a fan of Josh's work. Does it make sense? No. Is it a satisfying conclusion to a decade long super-drama? Perhaps. Episode 159 is here – and we're doing whatever it takes to bring it to you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host Josh Wittipulski. Today in the podcast we discuss the Avengers, the Avengers, and the Avengers. I don't waste one minute. Let's get right into it. All right, man. We're back. It's been a long time. A lot of things have happened.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Like eat holidays. We had to pass over. We did Friday. Easter. We did, you know, we're a mixed religion fan, mixed religion, and atheist family, so we did all of them. And none of them in some ways. So good. I love all the candy, the gifts. Zelda wrote a letter to the Easter Bunny. We had to celebrate early. We had it because we had to leave on Easter Sunday to go back from Laura's parent
Starting point is 00:01:11 house. And so she was like, Easter Bunny, can you come early, which is beautiful and sad. A little does she know. She also thinks the Easter Bunny is the guy that we take the picture with in the mall, which is wild. We saw money outside. I think I really convinced her of anything. I did. No, I just kids, you know, I think she knows but she's just like enjoying the hoax of it all. Yeah, I knew about Santa like, you know, day one.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I really, I'm really believing in Santa Claus but I thought that the gifts would get worse if I revealed that. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna be like, oh yeah, we can call it off now. Yeah, they're like, actually, oh, you we can call it off now. Yeah, they're like, actually, oh, you figured it out good, then we get stopped doing Christmas.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Every year I was like, I gotta get a sick of Genesis, we're like, you know, there's a new Game Boy out and I only have Pokemon Red and I need blue, so let's just keep this going. I don't know the significance of that reference, but I do know that I do feel like they get, I feel like the holidays would get significantly worse
Starting point is 00:02:04 if you based it on a lie that you had to keep believing that seemed like, because your parents are probably like, well, he really believes in Christmas and Santa Claus, and if we don't blow it out, they can like wreck the dream. But then once you know, it's like, well, okay, so you know, we're paying for these gifts, so we're only gonna get you one thing or whatever. Capitalism is wild.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Yeah, it really is. Well, I mean, Christmas is like such an insane capitalistic holiday. It's like nuts, especially if you view it, I mean, you know, we didn't celebrate when I was a kid. By the way, this is not at all what we're gonna talk about today, but we didn't celebrate when I was a kid. So watching other people celebrate Christmas was like
Starting point is 00:02:41 very eye-opening to me. Yeah. You know, it just felt crazy. All right, so let's stop with all this small talk and get to the important thing, which is that Ryan watched, Ryan watched 56 hours of Marvel movies straight over the last how many days two days three days of movies The Alamo Drafthouse was doing a thing where they were showing all of them and I guess chronological order they didn't show the
Starting point is 00:03:24 They didn't show the Edward Norton Hulk, right? Oh, they absolutely showed the other. Oh, they did. Okay. Okay, so we need to know, first of all, I need to know which movies were, I mean, like, I guess, I should just look this up. But you, sorry, you went, I just want to explain this. You went to the Alamo Draft House and you paid for a ticket. How much was the ticket, by the way? The ticket was 135. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And you sat in the theater with other people for three-day straight. I mean, you went in and out, but three-day straight, same seats, going through all of the movies in chronological order, including Captain Marvel and then end game. Okay, so Disney reached out to these theaters and was like, we wanna do this stunt where people will sit and watch every single movie in order. And the theaters were like, yeah, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Like, AMC was like, okay, human experiment, let's get cracking. And Alma Drafthouse, our host told us, was very hesitant to do this because they didn't see how it was feasibly possible for their staff, which is kind of ironic because the staff is being paid and gets to go home and we're paying. Right, you have shoes.
Starting point is 00:04:20 They have shoes. Right, you have. It seems like the kind of thing you would, like pay people to do, like a stunt where you're like, if you do this, we'll give you like $100. Yeah, and we only got like a t-shirt and like a glass, and I think they gave us like a commemorative coin. Anyway, I saw this and I was like,
Starting point is 00:04:39 how funny would this be? Ha ha ha, the hubris of youth. Yeah. And I asked Jeremy Gordon the culture editor at the outline, that if I did it, and I took notes by hand and transcribed them, could we post it? Because if I was gonna do this, I wanted to live on an in for me like Anne Frank.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah, oh wow, okay. That's a very hot button choice for comparison, but all right. So you're saying the Marvel movies are like the Nazi. You mean you've been, you've been, you've been, yeah. Okay, anyhow, let's just leave this. I'm gonna say this, Hydra appears in this franchise almost 22 times and it never ones is it reference
Starting point is 00:05:19 that Hitler wanted to kill Jewish people in Gays. Like they're very vague about that, but they're not vague about the Nazi iconography. It's like the Marvel universe exists both in and not in reality. Like, there are things, people have like, there's Hondas in them or whatever, you know. But like in the X-Men movies,
Starting point is 00:05:38 they're very clear that like Jews were killed in World War II. Like they've met the whole part of the mythos. In Marvel movies That's right. Like this guy dresses like an evil guy. So we got to kill him Yeah, he wears this guy wears this guy's wearing like a black leather and a cape for some reason So he's bad. No, it is interesting. I mean, it's a big part of the original X-Men Films that that Magneto's backstory is like a Holocaust survivor story
Starting point is 00:06:03 I'm just amazing Which is an amazing survivor story like for a comic character, it's like a really fucking good story. It's amazing. And honestly, I had wore a Magneto was right t-shirt for the day two of this, but I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:06:19 It is astonishing that like it doesn't come up at all. Like we get to see like prison camps in World War II and not nobody in their references being Jewish it gets a little surreal. But okay so we sat down we watched Iron Man Hulk Iron Man too. I'm looking I have the list here I'm looking at it or I'm reading it off okay okay the incredible so Iron Man the incredible Hulk which I have never seen that is the anglyle Directed, correct me if I'm wrong. No, no, no, this isn't the Angle One. This is the Edward Norton One, which is not Angle.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. Who, what was the, oh, the Angle One was just Hulk, and which is not part of this series. Incredible Hulk was, I kind of forgot it existed, huh, second. Oh, just to remind you, because I was reminded that movie's core plot is a live Tyler Edward Norton tie Burrell from Modern Family Love Triangle movie about about like how 23 and me is going to be bad for society.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Those are like the themes of the movie. Okay. Wow. So, so also I know this has like a tease. This has like a post credit, like it may be the first post credit scene with Tony Stark. I think Tony Stark or no Samuel L Jackson shows up at the end of Iron Man. Does he? Okay, sorry. I mean, I haven't seen that movie in a long time. I kind of wish I'd done this with you because I really, I know I'd do the
Starting point is 00:07:42 tie burrell was in this movie. That's so wild. Is he the bad guy? He's like one of those people who means to do well and accidentally Yeah, the bad guy, but he had good intentions. I know Tim Roth is the bad guy. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense All right, so we go Ironman Hulk Ironman 2 Yeah Thor Captain America Avengers. I don't know wait. Let's uh, Thor, Captain America, Avengers. Okay, hold on, wait, let's go, okay, go ahead, keep going. Thor, by the way, the first two Thor movies insanely low budget, right?
Starting point is 00:08:12 Yeah, the Thor the Dark World was the one that everyone really used as their first break because it's not very good. It's a bad movie. I remember watching it, like I rented it, or did, like, I may even own it because I was like, you know, it's like, oh, it's not very good. It's a bad movie. I remember watching it like I rented it or did like I'm not even own it because I was like you know it's like oh it's out now and I was like this is the movie like this feels like they have like one set. It's bad. Sorry. So these are in chronological order correct. Yeah. So what's crazy. Here's what's crazy. Hold on a second. I remember Iron Man 3, like it's yesterday.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Okay, hold on. Since Iron Man 3, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, one, two, three, 40. 15 movies have been made since Iron Man 3. Yeah. Sorry, Thor the Dark World, Captain America, the Winter Soldier.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah. Age of Ultron. Bad movie. It was better in context, but as a standalone movie, it's not good. I mean, I don't, all of these movies to me stopped being films. At a certain point, I felt like I was watching a motion comic and view through that lens, they're great. They're really good. Like suddenly like, it's making, how, let me, I say, how bad does
Starting point is 00:09:22 the CGI look in like Iron Man compared to like oh I have a whole page of notes about okay don't know spoiler well I mean some spoilers but I got it I got it I got it I'm not gonna know it's about Hulk's feet I'm not into feet they're just so surreal that you can't not look at them once you know they don't touch the ground oh my god okay. Okay. Sorry. Guardians of the Galaxy Age of Ultron. Ant-Man. I guess Age of Ultron is better than what the fuck is it called? What's the one? What's the one after that? Is it Infinity War? I mean, essentially Civil War is like the... It's a fact that America movie. Civil War is pretty good. Yeah, Civil War was pretty good. Civil War is the first... Civil War is the
Starting point is 00:10:04 first Avengers movie that I watched and wasn't completely... I mean, I was like, this is stupid and horrible, but I wasn't completely like dismissive of the entire thing. All the other ones I watched and I was like, this is like, except Guardians of the Galaxy, which I like a lot. And how strange. Okay, yeah. Um, Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Yeah. Spider-Man Homecoming, um, Garden to the Galaxy 2. Yeah. Spider-Man Homecoming. Thor, Ragnarok. Great movie. Black Panther. Also a great movie. I'd say those are the two. Ragnarok, Black Panther and Infinity War, like the trilogy of the best movies of these. I mean, I, of course, I haven't seen the movie. I far. I far.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Anyhow, go ahead. The Infinity War Ant-Man and the Wasp, which I think I saw once when I was really high. No, I did not really remember it. Yeah, I just watched that movie. It's like really out there. And I was really at the end of my rope at that point in this marathon. So I feel like I also still haven't seen that movie. Yeah. Captain Marvel and then we finally got to end the game.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Yeah. That's 22 movies, 56 hours in one movie theater, eating off of one movie theater menu. How did it smell in there? It's a bad. They did a lot of smell control. There was fans and there was sprays, and they made us leave the theater for hours at a time so they could clean a little bit. But the way I've been explaining this smell
Starting point is 00:11:16 is that it's close to the day after Thanksgiving, because the food would just linger. Yeah, yeah. But they gave us these Oh, boy. They gave us these wipes that were disinfecting and anti like deodorant. So we would use those to wash down. So Dave, pretty fresh smelling. But every once in a while, you'd go into a bathroom and someone would clearly have just been smoking a cigarette in there. And it would smell like human body odor. Oh, gosh. That was getting a little rough. I got to be honest.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I like, I'll tell you what, it seems like it was fun. You did Iron Man 3 at 320 in the morning is when they played it. Yeah. Is that right? So Thor, Thor the Dark World started at 540 AM. Yeah. I was just talking to someone that I work with and she was saying that there, she's going to speak with her boyfriend, going to see Endgame at 8 a.m. On Saturday morning, and I was like that sounds like a fucking nightmare to me
Starting point is 00:12:11 There was 6 a.m. Showings. Well, I see there's a well wait I'm looking I'm looking at the time list they have I see Iron Man. Oh, I see Where's the 6 a.m. Oh sick black Panther 6 10 a.m. No, no, no, they have no they have 6 am showings of endgame for people who oh oh yeah I like I want to see endgame. I just don't want it I haven't seen Captain Marvel. Well, they need here's what they need to do for real like I would pay good money for this They need to do a double feature for people who have not seen Captain Marvel where it's like you buy You know whatever the ticket and you watch them back to back like it's that's I would make that investment Okay, that's what I just did no, but you did it for every movie you know, whatever, the ticket and you watch them back to back. Like, I would make that investment.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Okay, that's what I just did. No, but you did it for every movie. I'm saying like, for normal people who aren't completely fucked up. Like, you haven't seen Captain Marvel. I mean, actually, well, you could do like, Infinity War, Captain Marvel, end game. I guess it wouldn't make sense. You need an M in the was. I see it then you're like, well, if you don't have black Panther in there.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I mean, I will say, like, Ragnarok like totally has nothing to do with anything, right? Like there's no, does anything happen to Ragnarok that's related to the rest of the plot of these movies? No. It's like a little bottle movie. Yeah, but that's what makes it so good.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Right. They're like, they're not like, Thanos isn't like, whipping his dick around all over the place. I will say a couple things started to, I got started getting real sick of, which was faceless hordes of aliens that were just like slashing our way through.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I got really sick. It's like, it's like literally contra. It's like, in contra, you're like, there are just, you know, in two warriors. So many people that are showing up, and you have to kill them. And it's like, who are those people?
Starting point is 00:13:44 Like, do we, no? Do we care? It doesn't seem to matter every fucking movie in the first few movies It was just like hordes of Middle Eastern people that they would kill and I was like this just getting off on a bad foot Yeah, like Iron Man 2 has like a whole like Middle East thing, right? Yeah, Iron Man 1 starts in the Middle East and we don't really get a backstory other than that these people don't want imperialist American forces In their country. I got it. I mean, it's like, hey, fuck you. And he just like kills all of you.
Starting point is 00:14:08 He's like, we're Americans. This is what we do. And then he's like with his like arm cannons. Yeah. And then the Iron Man 2, he has a portrait of Tony Stark done up like the Obama hope poster. And as he hangs it, he's sick of the liberal agenda. No, no, no, no, no. Does he say that?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yeah. sick of the liberal agenda. No, no, no, no, no, no. Did he say that? Yeah. Well, you know, all these movies are essentially propaganda for the military. And yet, and yet, every movie's plot turns on, the army had a bad idea. It made a big gray monster. We have to kill it. Yeah, but every plot. But that's every plot of every movie, like basically every blockbuster. I mean, that's the same plot as all the DC movies as well.
Starting point is 00:14:46 It's also really funny that like right after 9-11, we stopped making those like a pop-aliptic blockbuster movies because they seemed like they were in bad taste. And then by 2008, we were like, okay, Iron Man came out, we were like, oh, a blockbuster movie, like where we saved the world. Like that sounded like a good idea again. Until you realize that the city scape we see of New York in these movies for the first few movies, there's no freedom tower. We didn't even rebuild the World Trade Center before we were like, yeah, we got to get back to the fun of disaster movies.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's very real. Well, they pivoted the disaster, though. The disaster became about... It wasn't like... They made it more specific, like the disaster became about like, it wasn't like, they made it more specific. And then it became a big talking point in these movies, right? Like, where they were like, you know, we don't have the right to do this or why are we, it's like this like weird thing where they're trying to moralize. Yeah. And the existence, the existence of like superheroes and some. Yeah, they decide like, are we part of the US military? Do we want to take command from the government or the people? Or are we vigilantes the US military? Do we want to take command from the government
Starting point is 00:15:45 or the people or are we vigilantes as a whole side story? And then they don't super resolve that. Like, civil war is well intentioned. But other than like the characters like deciding they're going to get along again and like high five, we don't get an actual like, how does this actually work with the American military and is shielded part of this? Like, that's never really resolved for us. We just kind of go to Wakanda and decide that government is good. I also think that at the time when Obama was president, it was real easy to criticize the failures
Starting point is 00:16:15 of the federal government and like the will of the people. Well, we were coming off of, I mean, and we were coming off of the early moves are coming off of the Bush years, which like, yeah, like obviously the Middle East is a big topic. And also, the federal government seemed like a total failure. Yeah, we were real suspicious of what's going on in the beginning. This is like recession era.
Starting point is 00:16:36 These are recession era movies. 2008 was when Iron Man premiered, May 2008. So it's like, we were coming out of the recession at this point, right? I mean, we were just getting intoed, May 2008. So it's like, I mean, we're coming out of the recession at this point, right? I mean, we were just getting into it, I think. And, no, when is the, when is the recession? Let me find it, let me find it, it's actually. Maybe 2007?
Starting point is 00:16:57 2007, yeah, I guess is the, set the actual official, the great recession, great recession in the United States, here we go. Well, I didn't know that was the official name of it. That's interesting. Officially lasted from December 2007 to June 2009. So this is smack dab in the middle of it. But all the stuff that caused that recession, I mean Iron Man was produced in the period of that thing happening, it wasn't a reflection of the recession. But I think it went on to become that. The first movie isn't.
Starting point is 00:17:29 It's more of reflections on the Iraq war. Right. And then we get into recession, government suspicion, our drones, good for society stuff. And then by the time Trump stuff starts happening, the movies heavily pivot towards like, you know, one, you know, globalization is good, diversity is important. Like we've decided to like, we're currently in an environment where Americans like are hoping the FBI or the CIA will save them, which is so funny because the movies are so suspicious of those institutions early on. It just, it's weird time travel where we, there's references to my space and digital cameras
Starting point is 00:18:05 Elon Musk shows up in Ironman too. Yeah, right, right. Sheered, but I was like you can smell the crazy on this dude from like a mile away How do you know you can you can smell the crazy? I'm looking out the list of I'm looking at the list of when these movies were made so so the incredible haul came out the same year as Iron Man. It came out in June. Iron Man came out in May of 2008. The Incredible Hulk came out in June of 2008, which is wild.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Yeah, I mean, it's really wild. And some of these movies were distributed by Universal and some of them were distributed by Paramount. So you can watch the corporate restructuring happening in real time, but. You know what's fucking insane? Kenneth Brana directed. Yeah. It's fucking. Fucking Shakespearean actor and director Kenneth Brana directed Thor.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Like I get it. They were like Thor is this epic like story about gods. But like I can go back and watch these movies. That's crazy. Crazy. but like, I can go back and watch these movies. That's crazy, crazy. Anyhow, so yeah, so the, the doctor's strange comes out right as Donald Trump is elected, so that doesn't count. But then all of the movies after that are in Trump era. Guardians of the Galaxy, no Trump, no Trump presence. None of these have Trump presence. Maybe maybe
Starting point is 00:19:27 a little bit black Panther. It's heavy on like governments and race, but I don't know and racism and I like that like a successful movie. This is a movie made by black people starring black people. Definitely was upsetting to Trump. What it's all about? Should we work with other countries? Or should we close off our borders and protect our own? Oh, I guess there is the whole immigration thing.
Starting point is 00:19:55 It's sort of a, yeah, I guess that's true. That is very true. Okay. Anyhow, sorry, do we even finish your list? Okay. So we're Spider-Man Homecoming, Thor Ragnarok, Black Panther, Infinity War, right? Ant-Man in the West, Captain Marveline So for, let's, let's, okay. So, I mean,
Starting point is 00:20:10 that you did it was insane. You did a ton of Instagram stories, which I was following along with. They don't always make sense. I definitely got delirious at certain points. Drinking helped and like, I took a couple of edibles, those helped, but it pulled out. Adderall, and he had it all. It was anybody like like did you end up in a Situation where people are in the bathroom snorning coke to that house. I definitely found a lot of weed in the bathroom Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, let me ask you a question. What's the worst movie? Having just seen all of them in a row dark world Okay, you think that's the worst it doesn't hang together. It's very I agree. I mean my memories. It's terrible
Starting point is 00:20:44 What's the best what's the best movie? I enjoyed Dr. Strange the most, but that's crazy. Really interesting. It depends on if you're asking if it's a good from a filmmaking perspective or from like a comic book, like blow your mind perspective. Okay, let's have it from both. Cause I have an opinion on this. I haven't seen obviously I haven't seen more cat Marvel and haven't seen Endgame, so I can't speak to those. But from a comic book perspective, this is a comic book movie, and I want like fan moments,
Starting point is 00:21:10 and I want iconic imagery, and I want stuff that I know from the comics. Infinity War Slush Endgame is a masterstroke to end on from that. I'm so excited. I need to see Endgame so badly. I think I'm going to have to go to some crazy late release around here, or an early thing. I'm dying excited. I need to see Endgame so badly. I think I'm gonna have to go to some crazy late release, around here, or an early thing. I'm dying to see it. I'm like, okay, here's the question. If you haven't seen Captain Marvel,
Starting point is 00:21:31 are there things in Endgame that are gonna seem weird? I mean, you're not gonna understand her, and she's pretty crucial. I mean, not like that. I'll say, no spoilers. I'm not gonna spoil anything. Was that a spoiler? I will say that one character puts on a bunch of weight
Starting point is 00:21:46 and it's very sexy. What? Please don't. Please don't. That's a spoiler. I don't want to hear any more spoilers. Cut the head of that out. Head of that out of this.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I don't want people to be spoiled. It's not a spoiler. I don't know. I feel like it is. I feel like there are people. Look, I had a friend. I have a friend who was like this about Star Wars where like when he wouldn't watch the trailers,
Starting point is 00:22:06 wouldn't read any things written about it, would not read a review. Like if you talked about it, he would get mad and like leave the room. He's like, I don't wanna know anything before I go in. And then he also thought Phantom Man was a really good movie, so. By the time we got, so we didn't watch any trailers
Starting point is 00:22:20 for any of these movies, obviously. Yeah. But except by the time we got to end the game, we had to watch, they were like, contractually we have to play four trailers. Oh my God. And where were the trailers for any of these movies obviously. Yeah. But except by the time we got to end the game we had to watch they were like contractually we have to play four trailers. Oh my god. And where are the trailers for the Lion King? No. X-Men dark Phoenix. Oh yeah. I mean I'm gonna see that I guess. And everybody booed those two. And why? Why? Because we were like fucking trailers. Start the movie. I know. But come on dark dark, dark finance. Okay, fine. Okay, what else? So then finally, they played a trailer, which was for the new Star Wars. And I heard everyone in the theater go, okay, okay, we'll watch that one. Everyone was at the same,
Starting point is 00:22:52 was it the same trailer they released? Yeah. Okay, it's a good, it's a pretty good trailer. Yeah, I mean, it's actually a bad trailer, except for the Palpatine laugh at the end. That's my opinion. That's my official opinion of that trailer. Because that it's not, nah, that's pretty stupid. It's just like a bunch of stuff. It's my official opinion of that trailer. Is that it's not, no, that's pretty stupid. It's just like a bunch of stuff. It's a bunch of Star Wars stuff. It's like some ships and then like the people and there's like, they say some vague stuff
Starting point is 00:23:13 that doesn't mean anything and you see like a shot of like the camera rising behind people looking at something and it's like, okay, but then there's a Palpatine laugh. Slow motion shot of Kylo Ren like, you know, dunking on somebody. It's cool. I'm there. I'm there for it.
Starting point is 00:23:29 He's typing. He's coming. He's like, one tab is an in-sell, an in-sell Reddit. And then the other tab is like Twitter and he's dunking on somebody. Dunking on some SJW. Yeah, that's a really epic. I left a few times to shower, shave, feed my cat.
Starting point is 00:23:46 You were target a lot. Yeah, but I was going to say, but in the complex itself, you know, where is it? Wait, which, where is this theater? Because I don't, I've never been to the Alamo Drive. I've been downtown Brooklyn. Oh, okay. So it's near the big target there and stuff. Is it in that complex?
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yes. Oh, it is. Okay. Yeah. It's a mall because of that. But a lot of the stores are small. So they would start to see you coming in and out just trying to walk around. And they didn't like that. So of our options, it was like trader Joe's and discovering that eating fruits and vegetables helps your body. It was a real.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Oh, for you. Yes, Ken, here's's what they offered free popcorn free popcorn soft drinks and coffee for the duration. That's it. You had to pay for all the other food. I ran out of like was the theater was the theater full. Did they sell all the tickets to this? Yeah, a couple seats were empty and those were people who were clearly wealthy and wanted end-game tickets but couldn't get them so they bought that ticket So then they just came in for end game. Yeah, that would have been did somebody sit down next to you and that's he was empty. Yes. That was see, that would have been my move. Like I probably would have dipped in for a few things.
Starting point is 00:24:53 He was planning on being there the whole time, but his work like canceled his days off. He was very upset. Yeah, that sucks. You bought the $130 ticket. He was like, listen, for me, because I got it. He was like, yeah, that's really nice. He was like, look, I don't, he's like, okay, I'll, I will work, but at five o'clock, they're showing in game and I'm fucking out here. You can fire me. Yeah. Sorry. I'm like, having some sort
Starting point is 00:25:15 of reverse vocal fry. What is that? I'm down talk. I'm like losing my voice, maybe. It's hard to tell at At any rate. Anyway, so what I was gonna say was that because we were in this complex, I spent a lot of time in the target because it was like, you could walk around, they had everything you could kind of need and they wouldn't get suspicious
Starting point is 00:25:34 that you were like in a lot. Target's great. A problem at Target was, in every aisle was a Disney product, every aisle of target. You can get like, you could have literally left wearing a 100% Avengers outfit wrapped in like an Avengers blanket. I went to buy a band-aid because,
Starting point is 00:25:51 and don't ask me how, at some point in the viewing experience, I looked out at my arm and I was bleeding and I didn't know when that had happened. You became like a cutter during the... Yeah. I don't know, maybe I was scratching or something. Anyway, I was like, this is very, this is very, that's a very disturbing anecdote, by the way.
Starting point is 00:26:10 I went into Target to buy band-aids and the ones that were on sale were Mickey Mouse band-aids and I was like, no. Well, at least it wasn't like a Hulk band-aid. We definitely have some like character band-aids in this house. We may have some Avengers band-aids. Like what's so fucked up is like, Tony Stark band-aid is kind of on brand. What's really insane is that, you know, like Zelda, like, definitely is aware of these characters
Starting point is 00:26:33 without really knowing anything, like, they're just now present in all culture. It was kind of surprising a few years ago I said to my brother, like, what's the superhero that when I say the word superhero, it springs to your mind first. And he was like Captain America like Captain America and I was like oh it's so weird because when I was a kid Superman was like the epitome of superhero. Oh I when I was a kid would have been Batman. Yeah Batman. Which is perfect for perfect for Gen X. Yeah that's two sides of one coin. Gen X superhero was a was a depressed loner who was rich, independently wealthy, independently wealthy and basically like an unhinge vigilante. He was very existential about his God-like power.
Starting point is 00:27:10 No, it actually makes sense, because Captain America is like a Christian, essentially right-wing golden boy. Yeah, I don't know, see Jewish, maybe Captain America's Jewish. I don't know. What's his real name? What is Captain America's actual name? See Rogers Jewish maybe Captain America's Jewish. I don't know. I know what's his real name? What is Captain America's actual name? See Rogers. You see Rogers a Jewish
Starting point is 00:27:28 Sorry, I've seen I've seen the actor who plays who I had one in the Marvel like is there a Jewish character in the Marvel universe? I don't think so. Yeah, like it like I actually think you could maybe make a king or a good or no, well, European. I don't know. Scarlett Johansson. Scarlett Johansson is Jewish. I mean, ostensibly, but she's Russian in the movie. I think Paul Rudd is Paul Rudd, Jewish. He is.
Starting point is 00:27:53 He is. He is. That's a great question. That is a question. He's a vampire. We know that. It's very weird that Ant-Man was the first movie to start using D aging makeup really heavily. Like, no, but yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Oh, right. Yes, it does it with Michael Douglas, right? Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of funny because like we were like, Oh, Paul red doesn't age. Paul red is Paul red is from New Jersey. And he's Jewish. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Good for you. Paul red is good for the juice. Yeah. Wow. Anyway, the whole. Yeah, wow. Anyway, shocking. The whole thing was very surreal. My notes that I took as I documented my slow depth of insanity. At one point, I was very convinced
Starting point is 00:28:33 that an Avenger was going to show up and congratulate us. I was told by everyone that that was really delusional, but I was like, no, they're going to come. And then I realized that that was insane. But I documented all my thoughts, and they'll be up on the outline.com. So they're gonna come. And then I realized that that wasn't seen. But I documented all my thoughts and they'll be up on the outline.com. In case anyone wants to see me lose my mind, I guess.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I can't wait, frankly, I'm here for it. Anyhow, well look, I'm excited to see the final film, which is not the actual final film. But now I feel like, I do feel like, is it over? Don't tell me, don't say anything that's a spoiler, but it does kind of feel like at this point.
Starting point is 00:29:17 But culturally, it does feel like Marvel is gonna have to pull a rabbit out of its hat to do, which I'm sure they will, but in order to make this. Like how do you top, like, how do you top what they've done? Like where do you go with it? Yeah, I mean, I think it's a. X leg, something worth watching. I don't, I mean, black pants is great,
Starting point is 00:29:34 and I'm definitely gonna see that movie, and I'm sure they'll keep making money, but it kind of feels like this was the golden age, and now we're gonna go into silver age. Yeah, I mean, just, I just wonder like, I mean, I don't know. I feel like there's a whole era of It feels to me like there isn't I mean, it is literally like a 11 what are we talking about 11 years of movies?
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah, a decade of more than a decade of movies. It does feel like The end of an era and maybe I won't feel the way once I see endgame Maybe I'll feel like or Captain Marvel or the next Spider-Man Maybe I'll be like wow, I can't wait to see the next Captain Marvel and like, or Captain Marvel or the next Spider-Man, maybe I'll be like, wow, I can't wait to see the next Captain Marvel and I can't wait to see the next Spider-Man. No, I thought it's the end of an era. It definitely feels like Jerry has left the Spice Girls kind of emotionally.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Like you can tell that the movies themselves are like we're moving on from all the stories that we were sort of telling for a while. Yeah, and it's like Stanley kicked the bucket. You know, it's like the whole thing just feels like weirdly universally sort of like agreed upon in a way, which is, I mean, it's sort of sad it's also good, but also like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I don't know. It means that the movies get weirder. Well, that's so what I, so the thing about Ragnarok that I thought was so interesting is how fucking truly weird and inspired and really beautiful it is. Like, to me, Ragnarok is like a film, you know? And I don't think they've done that with very, like I was impressed, I will say this, I was impressed with the Infinity War because, and it's probably the movie that I've watched
Starting point is 00:30:59 the most times, because, and I watched it with my brother-in-law who had not seen any of them. I think he made a few of them, but he was like, all right, let's watch it. At the end of it, he was like, wow, that was actually really good because I think the stakes are real. The characters are like, the moments really work. The characters have now been fully developed. It's like they've really massaged like who these characters are. So you don't have to, you know, it's not like there's no more soul searching for like who Thor is supposed to be, who Tony Stark is supposed to be. You know, the whole thing sort of sort of clicks. And it's like, and it has moments that are like legitimately
Starting point is 00:31:36 like, oh, well, like I've never seen this in a movie like some of the things that Thanos does in Infinity War, like where he manipulates reality, are just weird things for a villain to do in a movie. I mean, I will say this, and the game gets very weird, and it was exciting to me because it felt like I was more comic-y, unless I could see it right now. That's the crazy thing. I could probably go and find a showing somewhere near me in the middle of the day. Screens at every theater.
Starting point is 00:32:04 I'm going gonna see. I got 10 a.m. 11 a.m. at 1 p.m. What would be the best time to go? Like an 11 a.m. I think you want to try to. Yeah, you want to shoot for while people are still in school. Definitely. Yeah, like that three o'clock show's gonna be fucked up. There was only three kids in the theater for this and only one kid stuck around for the whole thing. And it was I felt so bad for this and only one kid stuck around for the whole thing and it was I felt so bad for how old was that kid 12 or 13 It's not right. Yeah, I was like
Starting point is 00:32:33 This child abuse he was there with his uncle and his uncle definitely was a total Marvel tanky I was like is this kid in this for the long haul or is he just think it was a cool stunt? But anyway definitely can definitely get tickets right now for a three o'clock showing. Hold on. Started off ordering his kid this nephew like healthy menu options and by the end it was just milkshakes milkshakes milkshakes. I could definitely buy an 11 a.m showtime right now. I mean, I could do this. No one could stop me. I'm not going to do it right now. I mean, I could do this. No one could stop me. I'm not going to do it right now. Well, while I was gone in the theater, I kept dunking out to like look at the real
Starting point is 00:33:13 world news because I would be like in tidbits like for 10 minutes, I'd be able to like see what was going on in the world. Joe Biden's running for president. Olivia Munn hates bloggers. Ariana Grande stole one of your memes. Yes, there's so much to talk about. Which one of those would you like to discuss first? I don't know, dealer's choice. The Ariana Grande thing is interesting. Did I talk about this? Have we talked about this? No, we haven't talked for two weeks. Okay, yeah, right. This has been a long time. Okay, so I wrote this story. I like went in the most insane, down the most insane rabbit hole. I, let me think of how I should explain this. I worked at a gadget blog in 2008 called Engaget, maybe you've heard of it.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And we used to do a lot of blogging there. And we wrote a ton of stories every day. I pulled some story on a random day in 2008 that was about a tip line cops using SMS messages for tips. And I made a graphic for it, which was an old Nokia phone. And I made, I replaced this graphic on the screen with somebody texting, oh my god, I'm being killed, which I thought was a very funny idea for how you might use a tip line. And I posted it, probably took me like, if it took me 30 minutes to find the story,
Starting point is 00:34:23 write it up and do the image, that probably would have been like a lengthy post at Engaggett at that in that era. Anyhow, so I saw it pop up, I was, you know, I'm a heavy Pinterest user as you know, we've recently talked about. I saw it pop up on my Pinterest feed, shared by some random person. I was like, what, where, where is this coming from? And then I went down a crazy rabbit hole doing reverse image searches. And it was like, when you do reverse image search of this image, which is an image I made
Starting point is 00:34:54 in 2008, what have pops up is thank you next meme or thank you next phone. And I'm like, what the fuck does this have to do with thank you next? And I discovered that Ariana Grande had done a version of the meme where she replaced, and this was like a big deal apparently, had replaced the text on the screen with not, oh my god, it took, oh my god, I mean, killed out and put Thank You Next on it and put it on Instagram, and it has like two million, it's opposed to like two million likes and was like a promo for her album, basically. And I tried to figure out how he got from like that graphic I made to Ariana Grande.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And it also happened to, and I kind of sort of did, but didn't really like get the final answer. And I'm actually waiting to hear back from her like management. I really wish they would fucking answer me and tell me like, I would love to know who made it. I really wish they would fucking answer me and tell me like, I would love to know who made it.
Starting point is 00:35:46 But the point is, like, it's crazy to try to figure out where the kind of travel, how it traveled from like all these weird places. And it was like all over Tumblr. The weird thing about it is that like, from 2008 to basically 2016 or 17, it doesn't exist. It's like not really there. And then it pops in like 2017 on Tumblr,
Starting point is 00:36:08 and then it's everywhere. And then it's like 2017 to 2018, then it's on Ariana Grande's thing, and now the Ariana Grande thing is everywhere. So it's like, it's just like pretty incredible. Like most memes, I have no way to understand the genesis. Like you can, people have written about it. It's like, you know, it's like,
Starting point is 00:36:24 they started on 4chan or they were this artist, you know, it's like Pepe is like drawn by this artist and like, you know, it's been completely bastardized and there's a whole, you can see the lineage of that. But it's really interesting to be, like, to be the start of one, especially like the fact that I didn't realize it until like way, way late in the process.
Starting point is 00:36:42 You know, like, I keep thinking like it's possible that at some point I saw the image but didn know, like, I keep thinking like it's possible that at some point I saw the image, but didn't, like, I didn't acknowledge it because like, it didn't register to me or something. Like, I didn't remember it. Like, it's somebody like made a song and put a record out called, oh my God, I'm being killed. And like the art, the album art is the graphic that I made.
Starting point is 00:37:03 What? Like, in 2015, yeah. It was a band camp thing, but I think they might have actually released like a record. It's on Discog, so like, I don't know. Yeah, 30th of April, 2015. Oh my God, I'm being killed by the John Doe experience. Anyhow, it's got like remix, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:37:19 It's very weird that Ariana Grande recently said that she hates bloggers. Well, no, this is the amazing thing is that on the day that I was writing this, she posted this thing, which I guess was about like, I don't know, some lame bloggers who were saying shitty things to people, but like, she made it very general, which is people are still lost. One day, everybody that works for them, works at all them blogs will realize how unfulfilled they are in purpose list and what they're doing and what they're in purpose list, what
Starting point is 00:37:43 they're doing is, and hopefully she'll have their focus elsewhere. That's gonna be a beautiful as day for them. I can't wait for them to feel lit inside, which is like, what are you fucking talking about first off? It's just super weird because she's such an extremely online pop star. Like she's just so in there. Yeah, she's very tumbler. Like what I realized digging into this is that like her whole like aesthetic is like extremely tumbler. It's very like weeb too. Like it's very like pulling from like, you know, minority culture. Oh no, she's an insane, it's an insane, she's like crazy appropriator. It's like really when you dig into her, her like whole deal, which I did for this, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:20 and it's like, hey, if it's working like good for you, um, but it is like a little bit like, it is a little bit like, whoa, this is really, is that kind of crass for like calling that out. Like that seems to really piss her off. But at the same time, like, you're a millionaire beautiful pop star who was rich when she was born and grew up in bokeh. And like, I'm sorry that a couple bloggers don't like love everything you do. And then she goes on to use a ton of internet stuff in her work. I mean, a small example of which being that meme from that culture is just like, and I guess blogger culture isn't really a culture you can appropriate, but it is just like weird. And like, I don't know, she just seems,
Starting point is 00:39:06 she seems like such a half baked version of, like the longer Ariana Grande goes on, the less sympathy I have for her whole like, stick of like, her whole deal. Yeah, like I just don't, like you're an adult woman now and like she's definitely been through some horrible stuff, nobody's denying that,
Starting point is 00:39:22 but it just seems really, definitely been through some horrible stuff. Nobody's denying that. But it just seems really I don't want to say in God my brain is fried after this Marvel thing. It seems irresponsible. And also her whole thing about like she deletes tweets to avoid accountability. Yeah, she definitely deleted. She definitely deleted the blogger tweet. She deletes like hundreds of tweets a day. Which is that you know, it's fine. I get it like you know, it must be an eye like. I'm not the Donald Trump of pop culture. But why even use you as a no the Donald Trump doesn't delete tweets that's his claim to fame. Why? Why? Here's my question I've thought I said this about Elon Musk and I'll say it about fucking Ariana Grande too. It's like
Starting point is 00:39:57 I get you want to connect to the fans and maybe like you're just a normal human and like you like being online. But like why are you on Twitter? Like like really like you could find, you could like Ariana Grande is rich enough and powerful enough to find a person who she thinks is funny and interesting and like reflects her personality to like tweet for her. To like do the right tweets for her. The best thing about like and I, we can't wait into the Michael Jackson of it all.
Starting point is 00:40:23 But like the best thing about like the Madonna, Mariah Carey, era of pop stars, even like Britney Spears to a certain extent, was they were mysterious and far removed from society, and you could project on them who you wanted them to be, and engage with their work in this way that I didn't have to know her shitty opinions about bloggers.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And the minute Grimes started to suck was the minute we started hearing her thoughts on like globalization. And I just don't know that we need Ariana Grande's take on journalism or even like the state of the meme cycle. Like just go away and make music. I don't I guess I feel like an asshole saying that because I also think celebrity should speak out about politics, but it just I don't know. It seems shitty and dumb and she just does not seem like the smartest person to be like discussing all of this. And it's just very ironic that the day that she's like,
Starting point is 00:41:11 fuck bloggers is the day that she, like you discovered that she like, use using your meme from when you were a blogger. It's just like so perfect. It was, it was, like I do think, I mean, obviously they're unrelated. And my, and the joke of the post was, I do think, obviously they're unrelated. And the joke of the post was, we were kinda like, the joke of the post is like, oh, you hate bloggers,
Starting point is 00:41:33 but yet you use the, it's kind of the whole like, you hate capitalism, but you're not. It's like the society thing, it's like society is somewhat flawed and yet you live in society or whatever, it's like society could be improving, yet you live in society or whatever. You know, it's like society could be improved and yet you like participate in society, which is like that is the joke of the thing. And you know, like, it's not like they're not directly related,
Starting point is 00:41:55 but it is true that, I don't know, there's something very weird. I don't have any problem with celebrities like voicing their opinions on things honestly. If they their opinions are like well thought out and reasoned, like there are plenty of celebrities that do that. Just think like when you have like how many followers does she have on Twitter? 500 million. This is like fucking Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:42:15 It's like it's like you're making like flippant remarks about the media that for you in your universe, like definitely, it's definitely true that Elon Musk has, he can take, he can take issue with like particular reviewers or people who've commented on his vehicles, who don't understand them or whatever, like you can definitely be like, that's, you know, fucked up and I'm just going to talk about it. But when you make like blanket statements about an entire industry and you have such a massive fucking audience that it actually affects like public opinion and it affects like the lives
Starting point is 00:42:50 of those people in a direct way. Like you really need to like step back for one second just be like, is this the best use of my influence? Right? Like I get being mad and I get wanting to like lash out on the internet but like you could write a fucking number one hit song about it if you really wanted to. Like, you know, it's just such a weird thing.
Starting point is 00:43:11 You know, I mean, Elon Musk, it's like, I don't know, man. It's like, I feel like if you want to talk about median or really, if you want to change media, you could actually do it. But not to be a total asshole stan or something, but like piece of me was a really cool song about how people were talking about Britney Spears at the time of the high defermental illness
Starting point is 00:43:32 she released it. The whole blackout album is basically about how the world sees a broken person deep in the throws of mental illness. And yet it's also wildly detached from a production standpoint from her as a human being. It turns her into like a robot. And yet it also comments pretty heavily on like how she's seen by the world.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And Ariana Grande is just like sending like hot take tweets. And to me, it's just lame. And like it's so we're in such a shitty place culturally. And I don't know, I don't know. I feel like we haven't made the transition from like, I don't know, I don't know. I feel like we haven't made the transition from like, I don't know. I guess I'm a little fried from all this Marvel stuff, but it just feels like we're in a weird place culturally and weird place to have these discussions. At a certain point, I think drill is more worthy of your stand-in than Ari on a Grande. I mean, drill is incredible and I agree
Starting point is 00:44:21 with that. I just look, I don't have to be perfectly honest to have zero problem with our integrated and I'm not like at all. I'm not like, why did you use my graphically? Honestly, don't give a shit at all. I think it's fucking amazing. I like, actually, what was amazing was trying to figure out how it happened.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I do think it's like funny that it comes on the eve of her being like bloggers or trash or whatever. Maybe just it's just like a funny thing because it's like straight up from like the most bloggy thing of all time. I just, it's just like a funny thing because it's straight up from the most bloggy thing of all time. I literally, just to be clear, I was writing about what about blogging, literally about how I used to be in the content minds of the blogs,
Starting point is 00:44:54 which are all the people she's talking about, are working at these places where they're like, you need to crank out 17 Ariana Grande stories today. So like, fucking just do whatever. That was what was going on in Engaget in 2008. We were like, we just need to crank out some fucking gadget pose. The audience wants to like read something new every 10 minutes, like what's going on.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And like plenty of people still do that. And there is an industry issue that creates this like churn. But I was like totally writing about that in a separate way before she did that tweet. So just really weirdly timed and funny. Has nothing actually to do with the story, except to say that, you know, it's a small fucking world, man.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I don't know what kind of that's to me. Let's talk about Joe Biden. Let's do, oh, but Joe Biden. Here's how I feel about Joe Biden. First of all, he sent me like three or four emails yesterday, which is like, I get it. I'm on a Democrat list and you have it. You know, you're gonna send me emails. You know, one was just like, I got an alert and was like please Joshua and I'm like
Starting point is 00:45:45 dude this is way too thirsty at this this early stage. Like you need to just. Should be more excited and let's slow down. Oh he sent me like a few excited emails then he was like at the end of the day was like please Joshua and it's like I get it you're running. But all of it's very like we went on one date and you haven't texted me back energy. I'm like I'm not ready to donate right now Like I need to be I need to be more riled up to donate he am like you started taking corporate money He told me no one Obama to endorse him We're it's just the whole thing is weird and a lot of people on Twitter's take is like I'd vote for like a I'd vote for a chair
Starting point is 00:46:21 I'd vote for yes, yes, I vote for like a screener, but you could you could get the chance to vote for a chair, I'd vote for a committee. Yes, yes, yes. I vote for like a screaming hurricane. But you could, you could get the chance to vote for somebody better. Yeah, it's like, we get it. We're desperate. No, it's like, it's like, you want to vote for it. We shouldn't be settling already. The basic, the basic thing is this. It's like, we're gonna, we want to vote for somebody who is in Donald Trump. We all, I think we all agree.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Most sane people agree. Donald Trump is not a great president, though apparently the economy is soaring, which is, I have a theory on that that I want to talk about in a second. But so we're all agreed, right? Now, we know, like, I'm going to vote for a Democrat. I would have voted for Bernie if he had been the candidate last election. I vote for Hillary. I voted for Bernie in the primary. I've tied about this a million times. I'm going to vote. The Democrats tend to be closer to my like, where I stand on the issues.
Starting point is 00:47:11 But it's like, it's like, I would vote for a jar of mayonnaise with the democratic. I told somebody, I told somebody recently, that's not a fucking brave state in the days of day or 2.0. I was text, I'm a somebody the other night. I was like, I'd vote for like a random number generator, you know, they were like actually that might be an improvement but like the but that's beside the point what's the point and frankly it's not braver cool or intelligent it's like great braver cooler intelligent is being like I actually believe in Elizabeth Warren or you know Cory Bucker or whoever the hell and I really think they would make an amazing leader of the free world and could help,
Starting point is 00:47:45 you know, restore the lowest among us to a place of dignity in our society. Not being like, I guess Joe Biden isn't Donald Trump. Like, it's such a lazy and honestly, like, fuck Joe Biden for stepping in at this exact moment. I get it. He thinks he might be the one to win. I, all the positive assumptions, but also like, fuck you. It just smacks of like, I know it isn't, but I'm fried after six hours of Marvel movies, and I have to say, it's max of anti-Alexander Ocasio-Cortez anti-leftist stuff for you to find it to step in. But there's corporate money, like fuck you, dude.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I mean, look, at some point, I mean, corporate money's gonna be an issue because it's an issue with every candidate because you need a lot of money to win an election in this country. But the first day, the first day, I mean, he's been taking corporate, I mean, Joe Biden's taking corporate money his entire career. So I don't think it's like, he's also a plagiarist for part of his career. I mean, I look, but here's the thing, like, like, Joe Biden has problems, other candidates have problems, every candidate will have some problem. Okay?
Starting point is 00:48:43 Every can, I'm not saying Joe Biden might have more. I'm not saying Joe Biden might have more. No, but this is the danger of the fucking process right now. One, it's like, okay, there's a field so many candidates right now. Many of them would be excellent, would be an excellent president, okay? Many of them.
Starting point is 00:48:59 And by the way, I'm gonna put Joe Biden in that list. I think he would be an excellent president for this country. I think he would do a good job. Okay, I'm not saying he's the best. I'm not saying that Bernie wouldn't be better or Pete, may or Pete might be, you know, Pete Buttigieg might be better. I mean, Buttigieg, here's my theory, by the way, on Pete Buttigieg, who like, I really like, he's like, I think Buttigieg is like a just so weird at my work situation where it's like with Trump, where you're like, this would be fucking crazy. I feel like Pete Buttigieg actually has a little bit of that
Starting point is 00:49:28 juice right now and that gives him a weird advantage though he's like pulling it like zero percent or whatever, but fuck that. Here's the point. We have to find one of these people that we're all going to get behind and at the end of the day we're not all going to be happy. And like it's way too early in this process to be deciding who the person is. It's way too early to be like, where's their policy on X, Y, and Z? Because it's so far away from the time when we're actually debating policy
Starting point is 00:49:54 and talking about policy. I think people should have them. I think Elizabeth Warren has been fucking incredible at starting to establish actual policy. I mean, she's been a standard maker so far. I mean, I'm sorry. Elizabeth Warren would be a fucking awesome president, like much better than Joe Biden and much better than Bernie Sanders in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:50:08 That's just my opinion. But like definitely doesn't he's not getting the credit for like how great of a president she would be, which is probably due mostly to American sexism. I was going to say like astonishing. The woman candidate who has lots of functional ideas is getting a bunch of shit from, you know, like dude, bro, white dude, bro's from both ends of the, like, like, chronic spectrum astonishing. When have I seen before? Yeah, it's unquestionably, like, a not just about, like, policy or style. It's like, there's something else. Yeah, of course not, because Howard Schultz can step
Starting point is 00:50:40 into the race and get in CNN acts like that's a real thing because he's a dude. You know what I mean? It's like I remember when what's her face from HP, Meg Whitman stepped in and everyone treated it like a joke and it was like how is that that different than Howard Schultz? I mean in fact Howard Schultz is probably less qualified. Oh my god Howard Schultz. Anyhow, yeah I guess that's what I want this already. Yeah, I just want us I just would like us all to like just go, okay, well, let's let these people do go through the process, have their debates and not be like, it's us versus them.
Starting point is 00:51:11 It isn't, it is not us versus them. It's not like the far left versus the centrist. Like, there are the bigger stakes. And like, it's the centrist, but you know, but like, gay marriage, but gay marriage happened, gay marriage happened under rule of the centrist, you know, like things do get better. Yeah, but a lot of other shitty stuff happened on the rule. Yes, but I'm just saying, I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:51:34 it's not like, it's not all or nothing. It's like, yes. I just really push now and we should push now to get like, to push the, what the idea of centrist is towards things like Medicare for all now. to get like to push the, what the idea of senderist is towards things like Medicare for all now. And I just think that this is poorly timed. Joe Biden's whole thing is poorly timed because the center was a little bit worn
Starting point is 00:51:54 for a little while there. I mean, the reality is like, do we need another old white guy to like step into the race? You know, like do we have it? I mean, we have an old white guy running the country right now, but like the reality is that Joe Biden's credentials make him very qualified for the job.
Starting point is 00:52:14 And on paper, but I mean, what else is there? I mean, like he's just very qualified for the job. I mean, there's just no question about that. Like he's like a very traditional American president, archety mean, there's just no question about that. Like, he's like a very traditional American president archetype. He's like an older white guy. He's been vice president. He's been in, he's been a politician for like 40 or 50 years or something. When the last time a president was qualified for their job in one,
Starting point is 00:52:38 I mean, Obama, he had less experience. He had no experience. He had less experience, but he had some. He was like a state senator. He was a senator. And he was, he looked, he, he ran campaigns. He was an organizer. He had certainly the education. I don't think that anyone would have looked at Obama in 2008, but like, yeah, he is the perfect reputation for that. No, I don't think so. I think that I think when I went, no, no, no, no, the perfect reputation for that. No, I don't think so. I think that I think when... I think the very reason we did was our chance at being like,
Starting point is 00:53:06 does the country want something like that? No, no, no, no, she was more qualified on paper to be the president. That's correct. But I mean, it just mean like from like Reagan onward, it doesn't seem like maybe, well, yeah. Nobody in the country.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I mean, Reagan was governor, Reagan was a governor. I mean, you know, he had leadership experience. I mean, the most unqualified president of all time is Donald Trump. So you could, the argument now could be like, qualifications don't matter, but I actually think they fucking do because Donald Trump is a terrible president.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah, I mean, they do definitely matter. I just mean from an electability standpoint, which is not a conversation I really want to wait into. Why did I bring this up? I just think maybe qualifications are disqualifying in the current environment. And that's why P Buttigieg is like kind of, kind of rips. Like, but like, you know, but I actually feel like, listen, P Buttigieg, like, has been a mayor.
Starting point is 00:53:53 And that's more experience than Donald Trump. Yeah. But he also is way fucking smarter. And it's not like, by the way, all these articles written about him that are like, it's fake smartness or like, you can only speak a little bit of Norwegian or whatever. It's like, no, dude, like, listen, it's really clear when you hear are like, it's fake smartness or like you can only speak a little bit of Norwegian or whatever. It's like, no dude, listen, it's really clear when you hear him speak. It's not fake smartness. The guy has like a huge like IQ and EQ, which I think is a big one. His emotional intelligence is not EQ, whatever it's called. Maybe it is EQ.
Starting point is 00:54:20 His emotional intelligence is really fucking off the charts in addition to his intellectual brain. I mean, it's obvious when he talks. It's not like an accident. It's like on the spot when people ask him questions, like, you can hear it. It's not just an act. It's like, the guy's actually really smart. And I would like a really smart person to be the president.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I don't care who it is. Just, I mean, I'm not saying like, I don't care who it is. It can be a random number, generally. I'm saying, I don't care who the next president is, as long as they're like a smart person who actually is taking into consideration all of America, not just one part of it. That's my final word on this matter. One of the dumbest characters on Vanderpump rules called one other, one of the dumbest characters on Vanderpump rules, very low EQ, like two weeks ago ago and I think we should like one of them. Anyway, let's wrap this up.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I have. Yeah, you got to go. You're going to DC. And then I got to go to DC. Oh my God. Nice things. Nice things. Let's do it. I actually, this is good because I have to write a blurb for things we like this week. And so this would be my audition for it. You go first. things we like this week and so this would be my audition for it. You go first. First nice thing is the kind staff at Alamo Drafthouse who I started writing little notes to to make them laugh and at first they were very charmed by me and then they were like sir please just place your order. So that was the first nice thing. My second nice thing is that I last week I bought a broken PS Vita for 50 bucks on eBay and then replacement parts and put it back to,
Starting point is 00:55:50 like fixed it and put it back together myself. And then I hacked it. Now I'm running a fuck ton of emulators and quote unquote back up Vita games. And I re-themed it and unlocked a ton of features. And frankly, I'm playing with my Vita more than I'm playing with my Switch. And I shouldn't have shakedoaked with Vita,
Starting point is 00:56:09 which I think I did on one episode of this show. Wow. And I should have grown up. And now I've grown up. And I love my Vita. And I am having a lot of fun with that. I always, I found that my hobby, I mean, I guess it's my career, but also my hobby outside of like doing,
Starting point is 00:56:26 working on this on input with you is, I've gotten very into both hardware and software hacks and like customizations and mods, especially with like game consoles and computers. And it is very therapeutic to feel like you can fix things and make things and do things, and also to expand, we've talked about this in the show before, but whenever you have a new gadget,
Starting point is 00:56:52 you feel like you've expanded your own arsenal of superpowers or like your ability to get stuff done or do something, and yeah, I'm like very into that. So I think I'm also gonna buy like a robot building kit and see if I can build myself a little robot to do something. I don't know. Those are my nice things at the moment.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Nothing else in the world seems nice to me. That's very good. I have one nice thing, which is now that it's spring, yard work. I really, we've been doing a lot of, and by the way, not everybody can do yard work as people live in apartments, but you can't get a plant.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Now, I know there was a New York Har XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX I was saying, I took a poll on Twitter the other day about do you ever moa lawn? Because I was really missing the feeling of mowing a lawn. No, it's just doing some, even if you're just tinkering around in a small flower bed, you know, like we've been like planning some things here and kind of like just, you know, trying to, there's putting some, you know, Zelda planet, some, some pea pods that we're now growing into bringing, getting, bringing harvest and peas here. And in like, in like a thing outside, like, it's not a big thing. We got this like copper, like, what do you call it? Like a barrel? I don't know what it is. Anyhow, but my point is it's really good to not be looking at the internet
Starting point is 00:58:19 and to be doing something with your hands and to be, to be specifically doing something with your hands and the earth. First of it smells amazing. I don't know if you smell dirt, but it's incredible smelling. This is my opinion. You've pica or pica or whatever that is. What is that?
Starting point is 00:58:33 Some people have really low on, like they have really low vitamins or minerals, and so they just start eating dirt. And like, we're gonna get that. Yeah, I don't have that, but that sounds bad. It makes dirt smell delicious, apparently. It's a disease that you're doing. I makes dirt smell delicious apparently. It's a disease. I think dirt does smell great.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I think the outdoors smell amazing. I have a bad sense of smell, and it's like one of the few things I seem to be able to smell. I will say, my sensory deprivation in that theater, every time I went outside, and there was like, they had all these flower beds that were like filled with fresh flowers.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I was like, I do not appreciate nature enough. Now that I can't have it, I was like, every moment I spend among the earth, I was like, I do not appreciate nature enough. Now that I can't have it, I was like every moment I spend among the earth, I was really becoming poisoned IV in that Marvel movie theater. Yeah, yeah, no, I get it. Anyhow, so that's my, so whether you have a yard and you can go out into it
Starting point is 00:59:16 or a park nearby that you can go out into, I mean, obviously you can't like just start digging up a park, but I recommend even a small plant, and not because it's trendy, but because by the way, like when adults, when people are adults, they just get plants, that's what happens. I and not because it's trendy, but because by the way, when adults, when people are adults, they just get plants, that's what happens. I don't think it's a trend.
Starting point is 00:59:29 I think it's like, the millennials are now adults and they have houses and apartments and they're like, I should get a plant. Like, there's a trend among millennials for back pain. It literally is like a New York article where it's like, all the millennials are getting plants. It's like, you mean people who become adults by plants? Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Millennials are really into taking medications for their heart pressure, heart or their blood pressure. I'm so tired of people being grouped into generations. It's such a bad. I mean, I will say like there are generations and like there's a way to utilize the concept of generations but also like people are also just people. And like there are definitely people in this generation
Starting point is 01:00:05 who love plants and the people who hate plants but my point is get your hands dirty. Put the phone down, plan a plant. It'll make you feel amazing. That's my nice thing. All right. That's it. All right, well, go to the game. We'll talk next week. Yeah, we'll be back next week. We're going to be on time next week. We really are getting this back on schedule. I am pretty sure. There's a lot more to come. A lot more to happen.
Starting point is 01:00:34 It's going to happen. You're going to love it. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best. I've just learned that your family has purchased tickets to a 56-hour movie marathon, but they're not Marvel movies. you

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