Tomorrow - 160: The Nerd Wars

Episode Date: May 3, 2019

From Westeros to the MCU, the nerds have gone to war. The unlikely casualties include: Sonic the Hedgehog, Virtual Reality, and (somehow) beef. In the midst of these climatic battles, Josh and Ryan ha...ve devised the perfect plan to save geekdom: A Quantum Leap video game. Also, the actual world is in complete chaos (and probably ending) but with Jim Carey playing Dr. Eggman Robotnik, who cares? This is the 160th episode of Tomorrow. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey and welcome to tomorrow I'm your host Josh Wittipolsky. Today on the podcast we discuss Bubsy, Sonic, and Quantum Leap. I don't always one minute. Let's get right into it. Well, we're back. We're recording on time. Yeah. Just a big deal. From an office. We're in a room together. We're looking at each other, which frankly is very uncomfortable. Yeah. We're in a room together. We're looking at each other, which frankly is very uncomfortable. Yeah. We're not used to it.
Starting point is 00:00:48 It's been so long since we've been, like, in an actual proper space. If you feel awkward tension, if you feel sexual tension, it's because Ryan and I are in the same room. It's simply in my hot body. Anyhow, so we're back. We're here.
Starting point is 00:01:02 We're at the bussel office in a dedicated podcast room. Bustle HQ. Bustle HQ where they have put, they have finally put the outline logo on the board in front on the bit. So there's actually very beautiful offices that are like, I mean, I'm so used to us being our scrappy little startup. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:16 And there's like hundreds of employees at this company. So it's like, oh wow, like they have HR, it's very excited. Anyhow, we've been working on a lot of really interesting things. There can be so many crazy things happening in the next few months. It's just going to be... We're building drones. We're actually starting a drone company.
Starting point is 00:01:34 We're going to drop ship content right to your door. It's going to be incredible. Anyhow, all right, so there's a lot to talk about. There's a lot going on this week, Ryan. I have, I frankly, you know, I, I've been very distracted. I agreed. I, I want to talk about this video game that I bought later. We're not talking about it now.
Starting point is 00:01:52 It's a breaking news. I bought a video. Breaking news. I, I honestly, is it a, is there, there's some kind of condition, like a mental condition where you buy things that you've ever used? Shopaholic? Yeah, I'm a shopaholic. Retail therapy. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:08 All right, what's going on in the news? Let's get into it. Did you see any of F8 Facebook's F8 in our office? Yeah, I did. I saw it. And I got to tell you, I think Facebook's a great company now. I've changed my mind. Now that Facebook is like, we really care about your privacy.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Also, the word privacy doesn't mean anything. Well, this is great. Casey Johnson wrote a piece Our future editor wrote a piece on the outline which you should read which is Facebook is trying to make a word private meaningless and I tweeted about this and basically was like, you know, this is akin to what Trump did with fake news where it's like Literally every person every news organization that was like it's like pro-Trump They are the like the ultimate Creators of what we classically considered to be fake news, which is made up stories that aren't true.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And Trump has managed to turn that, has like turned that around on the media. And now the real media, it's constantly like, we're not fake news, we're like, what? And then, so everybody really knows what fake news is anyway. Yeah, you set the terms of the discussion. And then now in the daily callers, like Hillary Clinton is resuscitated by an exorcist or whatever,
Starting point is 00:03:12 which actually was a real news story. People are like, a necromancer, and that happened actually did happen. Necromancer showed up. Vampire list at showed up. And I just can't stop thinking about interviews of vampire. No, so now nobody knows what fake news is in everybody's like, yeah, the fake news is everywhere.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Like we just can't trust anything that we read anymore. So that's like, I think that Facebook and Casey sort of, and you should read her piece because I'm not gonna do it justice, just talking about it. But basically it's like, yeah, like what they say, what they mean when they say privacy, is not like what we think of as like privacy.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Like when you think of privacy you're thinking like signal or I message or like, you know, things that don't sink to the cloud. Just like privacy as you have with a friend who promises not to tell anyone. Sure, but what I mean in like the text basis like, yeah, a highly private video game would be like, no one scraping your data in the back.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Yeah, like like, like, for instance, my searches to Google are, in essence, they are private in the sense that it's not like other people can see my searches. Yeah, and you can turn history off and then nobody's hearing it. But the data is taken and used for things within Google, within ad partners, they definitely are using. And you can tell them not to do that you can even tell them not to do that.
Starting point is 00:04:25 You can tell them not to do that, but the point is that it's not really private search. Not like, these searches are, they happen here and then they go away and then there's nothing that ever happens. Like duck duck go is highly private. Yeah, I don't use it because, you know, it's not as good, but.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I'm sorry. I'm willing to give up some of my humanity. It's fine. If you're not looking, you're not doing deep Google search. Listen, I was working on that Ariana Grande piece. I was like in being image search, like seriously, being has some sort of features.
Starting point is 00:04:49 It's not bad, 10i, I was all over 10i. 10i is funny because like, 10i, I don't know if you know, it's like a reverse image search. And it's like kind of an old school's like the first one. And like it will time out on you. It's like server time out. It's like, okay, yeah, 10i is not built for scale. Anyhow, but Facebook's got new design, so it's like, okay, yeah, 10i is not built for scale. Anyhow, but Facebook's got a new design, so it's a philosophy.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yeah, so they're like, which is the old design and old philosophy. They're like, you know, you just talk to friends and you're gonna talk in groups and people are like, well, finally, it's like private, but no, it's not, they're scraping your metadata, they're scraping your, they're still scraping all this shit in the background.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And the problem with Facebook is not like, I think the big problem with Facebook is not that like we didn't, there was no knowledge that we were giving Facebook some data. It's that Facebook was extremely irresponsible and lied about how they use the data. Exactly. Irresponsible with and lied about how they use the data. Like Amazon uses even, gets even more data from you from like a certain perspective and they haven't been as irresponsible with their use of it.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Facebook has taken an implicit statement and bent the trust as far as it could go until they broke democracy. And Amazon knows so much weight crazy shit about me horrifying. I mean, the horror, I mean, was it like the Amy Pascal leaks that happened where all the Sony email is? Amazing. You know, and you know, it's like the Amy Pascal leaks that happened where all the Sony email was? Amazing Amy. You know, and you know, it's like the stuff she was buying on Amazon.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's like, it's like really actually fucked up and horrible. And like, I think everybody should ever write everybody, except for like, basically I have public servants, I guess, I would say. Like, I think if you're the president or a senator or whatever, like, I'm not saying we should invade your privacy, but I'm saying like, yeah, you have more, there's more scrutiny on what you do
Starting point is 00:06:28 because it's like you're representing the American people, you're representing areas of this country where people can't speak for themselves. So what you're saying is lock her up. Say lock her up. When I say her, I mean Donald Trump. No, but you know, by the way, that's like one of the biggest insults you could do
Starting point is 00:06:48 when Donald Trump is like, say, you know, Donald Trump is a lady. Like he'd be so mad. He would hear that. He would lose his mind. Yeah, he'd like to completely lose it. But I am all a man. Oh man, he's such a man, huge dick.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Just huge swinging dick can't stop, can't stop, won't stop. And he, please stop getting me off topic. What was I talking about? Facebook? Yeah. So, Amazon, yeah. Everybody has a right to like have whatever fucked up shit in your Amazon card is in there and like be left alone.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Yeah. But you don't even know how many golden crusted dildos I'm buying. That's right. That's my business. It's a lot though, from what I understand. It's like not, it's not. It's not an inconsiderate. It's more than a dozen on a six month basis, which I think is too many, frankly. But the point is, but so like, yes, other people have your data and are using it. Facebook has just been particularly, you know, when Mark Zuckerberg was like,
Starting point is 00:07:40 they trust me, those dumb fox or whatever. It kind of feels like that the undercurrent of that sentiment, even though I know Mark has matured and has learned to be a better CEO and is a different responsible business, supposedly responsible businessman now, it feels like maybe a little bit like, there's an undercurrent of like,
Starting point is 00:07:55 yeah, you can't see this, but I'm just jerking the air on. Yeah, I do it in jerk off motion, but like a little bit of like, yeah, like, whatever, yeah, like, whatever they'll swallow, they'll swallow. We're pretty focused. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas or doesn't stay in Vegas. And that's who cares because it's Vegas.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And Vegas in this scenario is Facebook. So yeah, I watch F8. So they introduce to them. I'll talk of them saying they're going to be more about privacy, even though like they're kind of aren't. They're revamping their look. I said on Twitter, It looks like Instagram and Twitter Focked which it's literally better than the worst thing it could be, which is what it was
Starting point is 00:08:29 Do you know what I mean like it's bare the bar is on the floor for Facebook design and they they cover that bar There's like there's like it's like Facebook is Facebook is like the 386 That you had in like 1994 or whatever you know, what I mean? It's like, oh my God, it's got like six slots and you can swap the RAM and it's like, it is a giant. It's a game interface. I mean, Facebook is a gaming PC
Starting point is 00:08:53 and most people just want like a small light laptop. I was gonna say it has a worse interface than like a flash cart on an old game system where it's like subfolders and like there's little menu options you don't understand. It's too much and they're like And they're like, what about, they're like, yeah, we have posts, but what if the posts had like big text
Starting point is 00:09:09 and it's like, a bit of a why? Like exactly, like tell me what I can do with this that I can't do with the other posts. Like, it looks bigger. Like, that's cool. No, I'm glad you're experimenting. But they need to squiggly lines. But I want, no, but I want them to like really like,
Starting point is 00:09:23 I don't, I look at the feed on Facebook No, I'm not a normal user obvious. You can re you can redo the wallpaper But what's in the house still sucks the content still sucks the post still suck They haven't rethought what Facebook is from the bottom up. I think they're out there You learn out the white on the power of the machete. Yeah, and I've been like since they did the new stuff I'm sorry, but like the the one thing that I was doing on Facebook on a semi-regular basis was seeing what people I follow, like news organizations I follow were posting. And now I see a lot less of that.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I, when I post a link about something, I get a lot less traction on it. And you know, I mean, I guess there's like gargantuan organizations that have, that fair differently, but I just, I don't know, I have no use for Facebook right now. Like the only thing I know is like, I've logged into some things with Facebook, and I'm like, I don't wanna go to the trouble of dealing with that, so I use the third event. That's it, does anything left is event?
Starting point is 00:10:15 Well, I don't go out, so it's easy for me to just miss Facebook on that. I mean, to make events, I don't find events on Facebook. I'm not trolling. I don't make events, I don't make events, and I don't find events. I'm like event not trolling. I don't make events. I don't make events. And I don't find events. I'm like event-free. That's the way I live.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And I love it. I'm living the event-free lifestyle. Anyhow, so yeah, whatever. We can talk for days about faith. So, okay, so they announced, and then they announced a new Oculus. Uh-huh. The Oculus.
Starting point is 00:10:38 We have to talk about the two new Oculus. The Rift S and the Quest. Oh. The Oculus Quest has like, is like the higher end one. The quest, no, they're just different. They rift is for you. You have a gaming PC and you want things to look phenomenal. Yes. The quest is a standalone device all in one. Oh, right. Um, where things look okay. Yeah. But you don't have to hook up to a gaming PC and you could just buy it like a console. Yeah. I do like not having it tethered to anything. But
Starting point is 00:11:03 on the flip side of that, the graphics aren't gonna look as good. You can't play every game. You can't play things that aren't Facebook Oculus or so I have an Oculus Go. And the reason I don't use it is that in order to play anything that, no, Evan did. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:15 The reason that I have one, I don't think I've taken, maybe I use it one time. The reason I don't use it is because the Oculus or just doesn't have anything I wanna play with it. But it's nice enough device. PSVR has everything I could wanna play in high definition. So I just don't use it is because the artist just doesn't have anything I want to play with it, but it's nice enough to vice. A PSVR has everything I could want to play in high definition, so I just don't know who it's for.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Maybe if they come out with some exclusive games that really wow us, but I'm not seeing Facebook becoming like, you know, the next, the next, putting out the next bio-shock. So I don't really know. Yeah, so I'm trying to- So I'm trying to- I'm trying to- I'm trying to-
Starting point is 00:11:42 Like PSVR has Resident Evil, you know, and like I would be, you know, I love Resident Evil. And but I didn't feel that compelled in, you know, like I want VR to be a thing though, I don't. I like the PSVR. There are games that I would say. Did you play, did you play biohazard in PSVR? Resident Evil, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Yeah, the previous one, not the, is the new one in VR? No, no, it's not. Yeah. Was it good in VR? It's phenomenal. They haven't, and I don't know if this is a hardware issue or the fact that it wasn't a native VR game,
Starting point is 00:12:10 there is a nausea issue about having to play. Yeah, no, no, no. You need wind or ginger pills, it's something. The PSVR, the latency is not great. I mean, some games are fantastic. I have to, there's a number of games where that I have played for hours and had a great time. But, yeah, I don't know, the shine has worn off and I'd like, I'd like to figure
Starting point is 00:12:27 out like what the thing is. I mean, I do think it's going to be really good VR porn. I think it's going to be the thing that's going to take VR to the next level. I was at a Richard games through the other day and they had for $500 and minted sealed inbox virtual boy and I was highly tempted. Wow. This is not a porn. I love VR. Yeah, I know. I, this is not a porn. I love VR.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah, I know. I really want it to work out. I want it to work out too, but, but. But we're not there. We're not there, and I don't want to re-hatch this. And they have said that these aren't their new riffs. These are refinements. This is like the Game Boy SP version of the rift.
Starting point is 00:12:58 We're not like calling it rift too. I don't know, it's interesting. I was excited about VR. We're so excited about VR, and I do feel like, there's interesting. Like I was excited about VR, so excited about VR and I do feel like there's something, there's some missing element. I'm trying to figure out what it is. And maybe it's just that there are so many limitations right now with VR, like so many limitations
Starting point is 00:13:16 that the truly immersive experiences are really hard to come by. Like I would love to play a game where I can actually walk around. Like one of the things that really, like there's not a lot of walks. So many of the games that are on rails, where it's like, okay, you're doing this thing,
Starting point is 00:13:29 you're moving from this place to this place. When you can walk, you're one of them. Well, that's the thing, it's like, it's like figuring out all of these different things. It's like you've got a, how do you make it all work? I really like, I like that they have the cameras embedded in the device now,
Starting point is 00:13:44 so you don't need those sensors hanging here in your room Because I do have an issue even with the PSVR where my room is like two feet too small And I'm constantly trying to reach into a wall or something Right, that's something that's it. It's not but it's good that it like maps the room wherever I know it's fine It's a novelty we're not there yet 10,000 people are gonna fuck with it and then it's gonna sit in 10 years It'll be back. It's gonna be in a dustbin somewhere. I there yet. 10,000 people are gonna fuck with it, and then it's gonna sit. In 10 years, it'll be better. It's gonna be in a dustbin somewhere. I'm sorry, I don't wanna be that guy,
Starting point is 00:14:08 but look. I think it'll get there, just on there yet. I'm just excited about the technology. I just think there needs to be like a quantum leap game that I can play. No, there needs to be a quantum leap in the technology. So, what do you think? But if they put out a quantum leap game
Starting point is 00:14:21 and it's the game, it's incredible. I mean, I actually think quantum leap would be a pretty cool game. Absolutely. Why even if they made a quantum leap? Why haven't they out a quantum leap game and it's the game, it's incredible. I mean, I actually think quantum leap would be a pretty cool game. Absolutely. Why haven't they made a quantum leap? Why haven't they made a quantum leap? It'd be so good you jump into a person and then you play their life. Well, why haven't they made a good Harry Potter game? No, I don't think that's...
Starting point is 00:14:34 We can go down a whole rabbit hole. The Harry Potter is... Harry Potter is too obvious. It's literally a perfect argument. I'm sorry, can we just talk about the quantum leap game first? I could... Because now that I've thought of it, it's like first off I do think it'd be an amazing VR game because the whole point of quantum leap is that dude would like leap into people
Starting point is 00:14:51 And he'd be like it's literally virtual reality. He's like where am I? I'm in this weird room. I'm in jail and I'm a woman like that's like Incredible. That's the one. What's his face shows out? It's like I'm in a wheelchair. That's a great classic Yeah, he's like I'm black like awesome. This is all the quantity. The gay guy. And he was like, Hey, does that happen? Yeah. And he was like, Hey, this isn't so bad. He's like, I don't know about this. And then like the next day, he was like, I love it. He was like, what's different about me? He's like, Harry Dean Stan. Is it
Starting point is 00:15:15 Harry Dean Stan? Is that the guy? Is that who it is? Or am I I mean, is it somebody else is another Harry? Harry Dean Stan, I always confuse with the guy who I'm thinking who's actually the quantum leap guy? Wait, who's the quantum leap guy? Who is the quantum leap guy? Fuck. It's like Richard Stockton or something. I just made that up.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Is it Harry Dean Stan? I'm looking. This is a great piece of podcasting right now, by the way. And I'm glad that you are joining us for this to the listener. That's me addressing the listener. We've got Scott Backula, Dean Stockwell. Dean Stockwell. That's what you're thinking.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Dean Stockwell. He's the guy with the thing. Yeah, he's the guy who pops up and every he's like, I don't know. What is Scott Bakula's character's name? It's Larry or Dave or Tom Lee. I'm glad you're going to leave it. 20.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Same, that's why I can't remember anything about it. They said Dr. Samuel Beckett. Sam, right, Sam. An Albert Cavalichi. Yeah, okay, so anyhow. So so so so so the purr the fucking, this is the perfect VR game I'm sorry. We have to throw the drones. We are now a video game studio. We're doing a new
Starting point is 00:16:10 Experience the quantum leap experience and it is a quantum leap in VR gaming. That's the I'm still workshop in the tagline But a quantum leap in gaming quantum leap the game Okay, it's only available on the Oculus Go. No, but it's continued. I don't know, we haven't figured out distribution yet, but it's, but think about the possibilities. You could do so much DLC stuff
Starting point is 00:16:34 because like you could just do a new season. You could literally take all the seasons of quantum leap and just do every episode as a virtual reality experience. And it's like a puzzle game because you got to figure out how to solve humanity. Humanity. No, people, out how to solve humanity. Humanity. No, people.
Starting point is 00:16:46 You have to solve social problems. Relationships. Yeah, like racism, homophobia. You show up at this of a right human. Being a woman. And you're like, how do I make civil rights happen? They're like, I'm a woman. How do I, what am I gonna do here?
Starting point is 00:16:59 And you're like, I got this broad. That's an unwinnable level. It's just you, just matter what. I think you do. No matter what you do, you can be the most successful. You're running for president. The most successful, most talented, most qualified. And you get beaten by everybody.
Starting point is 00:17:10 You're running for president. Yeah, exactly. And like, constantly the game. And literally like, it's very disciplined. Well, that one, that one episode is very hard. That's the final level. Level is like, can a woman become president? And she can't.
Starting point is 00:17:22 It's a very disciplined game. You end up, then you, you quantum leap into a baby. Does he for quantum leap into a baby? He must. I don't think so. He definitely does. There was no episode here. He was a baby.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I bullfucking bet you $1,000 US dollars that there is an episode where he quantum leaps into either a baby or a toddler. Give me a little bit of wiggle room here. And if they don't do that episode, that's crazy and it will be quantum. He definitely quantum leaps into a kidnapper who steals it maybe. Yeah, we've all been there. Just like every time he's in a bag, guys, like, uh, wait, I'm not going to do this. I shouldn't do this crime. But the thing about it is the thing about that quantum leap did. I'm so glad we're talking about this. Is it
Starting point is 00:17:59 grappled with the realities that put people in position where they have to do a crime like a kid tapping. Yeah. Makes you really see from the perspective of the kidnapper. What's he got going on? I think one time he quantum leaps into a box or while he's boxing, which obviously would be an amazing level because it would use like Mike Tyson's punch out, but like quantum leap. There's a good boxing VR game we could rip right from.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Anyhow, I'm just saying that if unless we make this game, VR is never going to succeed. Yeah, I just, I wish that it could break through in a meaningful way, but I don't. That's a 100%. So it's a super weird business that Facebook got into. They really thought this is gonna be their iPhone. All right, anyhow, so what else was announced at Facebook? They're doing some new feature called Secret Crush,
Starting point is 00:18:41 which is dating related. Bad. It's bad. That's gonna fail and go away. Where it's gonna be used for nefarious purposes. Yeah, they're hiding likes on Instagram, which is dating related. That's bad. That's gonna fail and go away. Where it's gonna be used for nefarious purposes. Yeah, they're hiding likes on Instagram, which I think is good. No, that is good.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Anything that a fan got Kanye listens to our podcast and told Jack about the idea. Thank you, Kanye. And then somebody from Instagram read the conversation between Jack and Kanye was like, this is great. Just send us a pair of easy, then we won't talk about you anymore. I don't need those.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I've got enough shoes. Anyhow. In other news. Yeah. Did you watch the William Barr Mueller report? Wait, before we talk about measles for a second, are you getting a new measles shot? They're now recommending the people.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah. You've already gotten one. I'm going to go on. Did you hear about the ship that was quarantined on the ocean with a measles outbreak? And everyone stuck on the ship because of one asshole. I think a cool way for the world to end would be a measles giant horrible mutant measles outbreak.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I think like, that's a fitting, we're so dumb. We're all so dumb that we brought back a disease that was effectively destroyed and canceled and gone. And did you see the Brady Bunch stuff with the measles? I don't. Anti-faxies were trying to claim that the measles isn't that bad and you could just get over it because there's an episode of the Brady Bunch for the whole family gets the measles. And they don't like look that sick. That's so-
Starting point is 00:19:53 That was their logic. Well, I mean, to be fair, I mean, everything, you know, the Brady Bunch episodes were rigorously scientifically sort of researched and vetted. And anytime there was ever an illness or an injury on that show, it was actually 100% medically accurate. Yeah, when Marsha broke her nose from the football. Yeah, and it got huge or whatever. That's what happened. They actually did break that actress's nose.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Well, they had to in order for the science to be sound. Um, yeah. If you listen to the episode of this podcast, we'll kill you about measles. It will like really curl your hair. Measles is not a joke. If you have measles in your room and you leave, that entire room is infectious for two hours. I thought I hope nobody was about measles, it will like really curl your hair. Measles is not a joke. If you have measles in your room and you leave, that entire room is infectious for two hours.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I thought I hope nobody was having measles. It wipes out your immune system, so that even when you're done having it, you get sick with everything you built up in immunity to before. So I'm like, I'm having the, I'm having the, I'm having the fun. I like was talking to Laura about this earlier
Starting point is 00:20:41 before I came to the office and I was like, I think I'm gonna wreck it. I'm gonna talk to some of the HR people here and say, should we get somebody to come in and offer? Three measles. Do measles, vaccines for people. Absolutely. So I think we're gonna do, I mean, I'm gonna ask if that can be done.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I don't know what the cost would be or the like difficulty. But like, they're basically like now, like they're basically recommending like, if you did have not been vaccinated, I think it's like before. 1989. 1989. That was the year that I got vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Yeah. 1990 would have been. I don't know, whatever. But like if it's before that, then you should like just get a shot. I'm getting it anyway. I can't hurt. I want to create a field of immunity around everybody that I'm in contact with. I would like to go to the doctor.
Starting point is 00:21:19 I have had a dream of doing two things. One, going with a blank check for my insurance or whatever and getting every test. Yeah. Two, just every vaccine they got. Why not just spend a year getting every vaccine. I am so pro vaccine and scared of being sick. That'd be a good documentary. Let's see if you get autism. I would love to get autism. Yeah. I don't think that's the best people of autism. Well, that's true, but I don't know. I'm joking. I don't think people should get it. Anyhow, but okay, but wait. I'd be fine. And I would be immune to what's Nile or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Wait a second. Oh, I have a great, I have a great doctor story speaking of the doctor. Okay. I went to the dentist yesterday, which I have not done in a very long time, because I was having tooth pain. And I thought that I had cavities
Starting point is 00:22:01 and also a dentist told me, like a dentist told me a few months ago that I had two cavities and That my teeth are go a months ago I'm just pleased. I'm very I'm very a huge baby when it comes to the dentist and weirdly my baby The dentist my baby is actually very good at going to the dentist Okay, great. I'm happy for you. I'm glad that like young people are well-adjusted to the dentist my parents My parents did not create like a good feeling to have the dentist for me apparently. So, I went to the dentist because I was having tooth pain and I thought like I was told recently I had two cavities and hairline fractures all over my teeth from like grinding them or something.
Starting point is 00:22:37 But otherwise like my teeth were in good shape. But I was like oh, so then something we work with was like oh you're gonna need a root canal. Like, if you didn't get those cavities filled, that's what it was about your teeth hurting. Anyhow, it was a triumphant day for me. I went to the dentist who, the dentist, a dentist I'd never been to, who basically like started doing cleaning, even though I like did not go there for cleaning,
Starting point is 00:22:56 she was like, yeah, we're just gonna need to check everything out, we'll just do a cleaning. I'm like, oh, I see what you're doing. You're just getting me to do a cleaning. One, I did the cleaning, which is a big deal for me because I'm a huge baby. I love the cleaning. And scared of the dentist.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And that, no. And it's not enjoyable, but it, but like when you're teaching, she's like, you're teeth are great. You have no cavities. You have no fractures. So what was the pain? Your bone density is wonderful.
Starting point is 00:23:17 She's like, I think you've been brushing too hard and you've like exposed your, like some nerves because you like kind of like, war away on the gum. She's like, you need to chill out on the brushing. So I think what happened is I was like panicked about a cat. I was like brushing so hard the last few months
Starting point is 00:23:30 that I've actually caused myself pain. This is fascinating. The longest story, the longest story is I have a situation that's very bad, which is this. My teeth are very good. And I go to the dentist like once every eight years. Not good. No, but every time I go to the dentist, they're like your teeth are great. And so I'm like, what do I need to go to the dentist like once every eight years. Not good. No, but every time I go to the dentist,
Starting point is 00:23:45 they're like, your teeth are great. And so I'm like, what do I need to go to the dentist for? And every time I go, I'm like, oh, this is it. This is the big one. Like I haven't had my wisdom teeth out. You might have had your wisdom teeth out? No, and guess what? They're fine, apparently.
Starting point is 00:23:57 She's like, they look good, they're not impacted. I'm like, okay, she's like, just make sure you brush back there. So my problem is that my teeth are too good. I don't want wanna jinx myself, but like every time I go to the dentist, it's the same thing. This one time was very weird,
Starting point is 00:24:09 and I think the guy was just trying to get me to do some work I didn't need. He was a scam artist. There is actually a huge thing of dental scam work. I know, of course there is. Of course, they won't clean your teeth properly or they won't tell you about a cavity until you need to root it out.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Because they can do it first. This is more. I said this to Laura. I'm like, what if, I was like, what if this dentist is just telling my wife teeth are good so that like the next few times, like I go back, then she's like, oh, you've got a bunch of cavities.
Starting point is 00:24:30 And then she's like, boom, yeah. But that's real. I've heard from dentist. Yeah, but I don't think this person has like 170, like five star reviews on ZockDock. Cause he does a great root canal. My root canal went great. It's all root canal reviews.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And he, I don't know why I wanted to. Why are we talking about that? Because you were talking about doctors. And I really should get a measles shot and everybody should go together to check by a reputable dentist. All right, what else? Oh, bar, you want to have a bar?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah. I mean, it's cool because we live in a banana republic where we are in like a actual real permanent constitutional crisis. We don't feel shocked anymore. No, but like we are, I think nothing. I think what people don't realize that's really, that's actually happening is that we are very close
Starting point is 00:25:10 to a severe like democracy problem in America. Like, it's getting more and more realistic that we won't have elections. It's very, yeah. Like I, it's definitely like we're in a situation now where it might happen that like not that they call off elections, but like maybe the elections happen and the president's like, oh, we're having an election.
Starting point is 00:25:30 There's one candidate. We have, or we have recently, I believe there is tampering and we're postponing, you know, the results are, you know, in the attorney general's like, yes, you know, we have to investigate it and who fucking knows. Yeah. I mean, because we have, like everybody's Nancy Pelosi puts out a very harshly worded statement. Here's what I think though. I do, I hope, or we have like everybody's Nancy Pelosi puts out a very harshly worded statement. Here's what I think though I do I hope or at least is what I hope I think the Democrats are
Starting point is 00:25:49 waiting To closer to the election to begin impeachment proceedings because here's why that's Clinton impeachment proceedings went from December 90 98 they only made him more popular to February 1999 and he got he got off And he was wildly popular. So if you start the impeachment proceeding now and Trump Probably he's not he's not going to be he's not gonna be removed and let's say truly find something like
Starting point is 00:26:17 I don't know what they would have to find it. I don't know how they would have to get they're probably gonna relinquish power They're not gonna be like yeah, okay, I love doing that. No, they're not gonna be like, okay, we voted, we were gonna, like Trump honestly, like, I mean, if Trump, like, literally got on live television was like, I am an operative for the Soviet Union, for Russia, I'm the winter soldier. I'm the winter soldier. We removed his sleeve and there was a metal arm there.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I would actually make him look like a soldier. I'd be like, okay, he's fine, whatever, he's in forever. You know, if he got on TV, he was like, I admit, and also I have no money, all my tax, I'm a tax fraud, non-stop tax fraud. I don't think like, no, we're probably going to be like, yeah, we should remove him. They'd be like, we all make mistakes. Yeah, you know, we're remove them. They'd be like, we all make mistakes. Yeah, you know, every is human. Bill Barr, I mean, when he was testifying was basically acting as his Trump's personal attorney.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And the number of excuses or obfuscations, it took them 30 seconds to get him to just say, I don't know. And then there are suspicious excuses and obfuscations. And the fact that they can brazenly do this kind of stuff and that our government's response is like, Kamala Harris destroys no bar videos. I don't think really,
Starting point is 00:27:32 and he was like, oh, I'm canceling the second day because I don't like the question. I don't like it. It's like, I'm sorry. That dude's accountable to the American people. Yeah. He works for us. He works for us.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Yeah. He works for us. He works for us. Yeah. He works for us. He's not Trump's representative on earth. He, and you know, else works for us are the people who are calling him to testify. And if they can't, if he's just like, no, I'm not going to do it, like, we have like a serious problem in this country.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Like, I mean, we have a problem where we cannot, like, deal with, like like constitutional insurrection essentially, which is what we have in my opinion. But also like I'm so fatigued, I'm like, let's just, let's just do Venezuela now. Like let's just be, let's just be Venezuela, like, which is a complete chit-chou. Um, I don't know. I mean, what, you know, what are we going to do, you know? I mean, my brother is talking about moving to Ireland because he got an offer for a, like,
Starting point is 00:28:26 a cross team thing, whatever, it's a whole story. But John and I have talked to occasionally about moving to London and at this point, I'm just like, well, it's wait 12 months and see where it's better. Is it better anywhere else? That's the thing is, I used to be like, I used to imagine escape to other countries
Starting point is 00:28:39 and I'm like, it's gonna be better, it would be better in. The only place this to go is maybe like Sweden because they've got enough money that if the whole world collapses, they'll be okay. No, they're surrounded by all kinds of insane countries. It's Sweden's like first on the chopping block. Yeah, maybe the move is to go to the most insane and just become a warlord.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah, the move is to like move to Siberia or something. And just make your own government. Yeah, that's like, well, Larry Ellison has an island. I mean, maybe get an island. Yeah, Peter Teal has that whole compound in New Zealand. That's a great idea. That's one of his first good ideas. He had the right idea.
Starting point is 00:29:12 That's my blood boy. I don't know, like the one thing is, I guess if you get off the grid enough and you're just out in the cut, like even in America, yeah, that's true. At some point you're just like- Together a little militia. You just don't know. Appalachians.
Starting point is 00:29:25 But at some point you're just not on the grid enough to matter. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like if I were to say hypothetically, I were to take the family and move to like hundreds of miles out into the country. Yeah. On like a large piece of land that wasn't anywhere near anything.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Yeah, you build a wall. No, no wall. No wall, no collusion, no puppet. You know, and you, and you, and you're just chilling there. What are you gonna do? No credit cards, no debt, build your own house. You need a well. Yeah, you gotta dig a well, you gotta well out there.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I don't know, without the internet, I might run into some problems. You know, get a little satellite or something. Well, in other news. Burger King is now selling Impossible burgers. This is huge. There's two big huge impossible big huge. There's two huge impossible stories happening right now One is burger kings test with the impossible burger was so successful that they're rolling out nationwide to 7,000 locations Things are goddamn delicious. That's fucking huge. Yeah, I mean I honestly if I could get an impossible burger wherever Burgers are I would do it. I would never well, yes
Starting point is 00:30:24 I would always eat the burgers, but I would also never feel like oh burgers are, I would do it. I would never, well, yes, I would always eat the burgers, but I would also never feel like, oh my god, I want a burger. Cause I get that craving all the time. I'm like, I want a burger, you know, against my own better judgment. If I could just get a burger that I'd have to feel guilty about, yeah, that would be fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And frankly, a bad veggie burger is worse than anything, but these are so good. Veggie burger suck. And you know the thing about veggie burgers, no offense, but like to people who eat vegggie burgers and maybe enjoy them. And there are some you can enjoy. And people are always like, it's not just enough for them to serve you a Veggie burger
Starting point is 00:30:51 on a regular burger production. It's like, give me some like sauteed onions and some American cheese and some, just, do no, no. A poppy seed bun, no. They are like, sesame seed, they're like, not poppy, sesame, they're like, oh. They're like, um, not Poppy says me. They're like, Oh, uh, you want the Virginia, Veggie burgers. That means you want it on like,
Starting point is 00:31:09 flax seed toast. Yeah, they opt for like flax seed toast with some pea shoots and, uh, and a no sauce and an onion, dry the bone, onion reduction or whatever. Like, no, like some fucking aly, you know, some mint aily or whatever. It's like, no, I some fucking a-oli, you know, some mint a-oli or whatever. So like, no, I just want a hamburger, but instead of the meat, I want a different thing in there that is not meat. I want it to be as disgusting and sloppy as a normal hamburger is.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I don't understand why people don't get that. Because that's where superiority burger is, superior. Yeah, I'm excited about this because it's great for the environment and it is a great chance for people to try these new burgers that taste exactly like regular burgers. Yes, but then there's this other tragic situation happening which is the there's a shortage of impossible burgers. They're running out of impossible burgers.
Starting point is 00:31:53 They can't make them fast enough. Well, that's a good problem to have. It is and it isn't. You know, think about it. There's a lot of hype on the impossible burger. You go into a burger thing. I mean, beyond burgers, also a viable option. Yeah, it's not as good.
Starting point is 00:32:04 You go, honestly, it is not nearly as good. I, also a viable option. Yeah, it's not as good. You go, honestly, it is not nearly as good. I think they're both great. Okay. That's your opinion, but I don't remember what meat tastes like. It's like trust me, the impossible burger is far and away. The superior, the superior meat like burger. But you go into McDonald or sorry, Burger King, you're like, give me that impossible burger.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I can't wait. They're like, sorry, we're out of it. And then you're just like, okay, fine, give me a fucking wapper. And that's it. You don't try the impossible burger again, because you're like, oh me that impossible burger. I can't wait. They're like, sorry, we're out of it. And then you're just like, okay, fine, give me a fucking wapper. And that's it. You don't try the impossible burger again, because you're like, oh, the moment has passed. And then you, and then you don't have the planet dies. So thanks a lot of possible burger for destroying the
Starting point is 00:32:35 and planet, destroying the entire planet. No, I just, I do worry. They need to get, you know, they need to fucking like step that shit up. I'm just excited that it's gonna be available everywhere and kind of fuck everybody who was a douter. I mean, I get the like, it's great.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Resurations, but this is gonna be great. I'm gonna buy a whole bunch of them. No, I think it's okay. The pandemic Donald's has never had a veggie burger option in America. It's just shocking. It's so insane. Like why not just have a,
Starting point is 00:32:57 there's like nothing you can eat for a standout. Or you just throw a few in the freezer, like what would it cost? I don't know. Well, actually what's delicious is to get a big Mac with your meat. Yeah, delicious. Really good. You know why? What would it cost? I don't know. Well, actually, what's delicious is to get a big Mac with no meat. Yeah. Delicious.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Really good. You know why? Because the bun is like, it's basically like a cinnamon roll. I mean, it's so sweet. I didn't realize until I had one without any meat on it. Yeah. This was Laura's idea. This is her innovation that when we, you know, when I met her, it was like, oh, you
Starting point is 00:33:19 can do this. I hadn't thought of that. Because I have a peanut-sized brain. And it's like a really good grilled cheese sandwich, kind of, because the cheese is a little bit melted, but it's also like, we're super sweet. It's like a dessert. Yeah, you're eating like a croissant. It's a dessert burger.
Starting point is 00:33:35 What else is going on? Did you, what, are you been watching Game of Thrones? Yes. Are you kidding me? Oh, I've seen all the stuff now. We gotta talk about how we're gonna start. How are we gonna start? Game of Thrones and Endgame.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I know. I got so much to say.'re gonna talk about Game of Thrones and Endgame. I know. I got so much to say. I know, that's how it's gonna be. I cannot believe we talked about all this bullshit. And now there's real stuff to talk about. So what do you think about? Let's start with Game of Thrones. Okay, first off.
Starting point is 00:33:56 It was a little disappointed. Hold on. First off, spoilers. Spoilers for both, you're gonna hear spoilers for Game of Thrones the last episode, which is the long night I believe and And then and game we'll talk about in a little bit, but um, but if but here's the thing It's been a couple it's been a week or so. Yeah, if you haven't watched it that's on you
Starting point is 00:34:17 Well, it is but I feel strongly that spoilers should be I Think you can ruin a piece of art if you get it. If somebody tells you what happens. So I'm very strongly behind the endors. I'm endorse not giving away, but now I'm we're warning you, if you haven't seen it, you should stop listening and then see it and then come back and listen. So the episode was too dark. I don't care. I don't care what anybody says. I do think this is one of the situations where like the people who make it with their very high-end beautiful equipment are always sitting in a dark theater with like, you know, 8K projections or whatever. Like this looks fucking amazing. It's also cheaper to do CGI in the dark. Listen, one of the things that you learn when you're making records. You like this? When I was producing music. You listen to it in the studios, always since fucking sick in the studio, okay? You take it in your car. You take it if you can to a club.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Great to, especially if you're making dance music. So here dance music, like shit does not sound like it will work in your studio, works insanely good in a club and vice versa sometimes. You listen to it everywhere you can. You listen to it on your shitty home stereo, you play in your friend's car, whatever. Like your, yeah, listen to it on a Mac MacBook speakers, you know, or whatever. Your alien wear laptop. That doesn't matter. So I feel like they kind of are like, this looks great. Ship it. You know, get it out the door. And it didn't look great. And you're living room. It looked very confusing. So let's get to the black blur.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I thought the episode was, it was very hard to watch. It sucked to watch because it was not good. I mean, it was not good in that, the people that you have loved and lived with for so long were definitely getting the shit kicked out of them. Yeah. And so it created a very uncomfortable viewing experience. I remember about three quarters of the way in,
Starting point is 00:36:08 I was like this is really good, and gripping and compelling, and I have a lot of complaints, but I'll get to those in a second. But the overall, it was very good, gripping, compelling television, but it was very, I wanted to turn it off. I was like, I don't want to watch this, you know?
Starting point is 00:36:22 It's like watching your friends be killed. Because the people on TV are my friends. Your only friends. So I'll say a couple of things. The dragon shit was like, let me get to my, let me get to my complaints and then to my ultimate review. I don't know what they were doing with the dragons.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I don't know what they were, I don't know, here were doing with the dragons. I don't know what they were, I don't know, here's my one thing. Okay? Melissa Andra comes up, she's like, get your swords up. These guys are on, they're right on the, you're on the front lines here. You know what'd be good at that moment is to be like send a fucking dragon out to where she was.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Yeah. And just start torching all of them before they get up to the people. Torches many as possible before, because they're moving on foot, okay? So they're literally got a giant tank and the phrase fire and it had flocks. And the winter fell, cruise just standing there.
Starting point is 00:37:14 By the way, I think generally speaking, bad military strategy, I know this is the way they used to do it, just stand there and wait. But this is not a war with civility. Why not? So they had those trenches. Why not put the trenches further out? Yeah, we need guerrilla work.
Starting point is 00:37:28 And wait further behind the trenches and have something that was easier than a dragon to light the trenches. Yeah. I don't know, whatever. I might have been like, even though she ended up doing it, I might have been like when she let the swords, I might have been like, hey, Melisandre,
Starting point is 00:37:41 can you go wait by the trenches since it seems that you can conjure up a lot of fire at once? Yeah. Anyhow, so one is like, what were they doing with the dragons? I don't know, I couldn't see. Why did the Night King from a military perspective show up at all?
Starting point is 00:37:53 Why wouldn't you be way in the back? Well, a good general fights with this army, okay? He doesn't need to keep morale up, there's zombies. Well, how's he gonna fucking like entourage walk through shit if he's not with the army? I mean, how's he gonna like walk with his crew? There were a lot of really good Tweet in the city Like the fucking guys like like flank that he's like flanked by like badass looking dudes everywhere
Starting point is 00:38:15 Harry Bradshaw he's like the cool guys don't look at explosions like he's literally that guy and every shot He's like it's cool. I get it like that's this thing um So I don't know what was going on with the dragons and every shot, he's like, it's cool, I get it, like that's this thing. So I don't know what was going on with the dragons, I don't know what was going on with them, period, because it was impossible to see. I'm like, there's something happening. I'm like, oh, John's dragon is dead. I was like, oh no, that wasn't John's dragon.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I was like, oh, okay, Danny's dragon is dead. I was like, oh wait, that's a different, I will say very painful when all the fucking guys were jumping on the dragon, horrible to watch, disgusting and horrible. I think the dragon survived though. I have no idea. I don't know, anyhow. Okay, so I don, disgusting and horrible. I think that dragons revived though. I have no idea. I don't know any, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:47 So I don't know what was going on with the dragons. I'm not, I'm not like one of these people, all these fucking blogs are like, oh, military strategist, weigh in on the battle of Winterfell. And it's like, you know what guys, I don't, this was not a, this is not the US Army, you know what I mean? It's just a different situation.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I don't wanna hear about like, oh, the- I mean, there was some pretty clear oversight. It's like, the guy can raise zombies from the dead and you hit all the women in children and a crypt. Well, that was bad. It's really dumb. I think we all knew that it was gonna happen, but why didn't anybody in the show go,
Starting point is 00:39:18 don't put them, the dead people, that seems like it could be bad. But also, it's like, it's interesting that nobody thought, well, what happens when we kill all these people? Yeah, they're gonna be zombies. That would be the first thing you would worry about. I mean, you have to explode them for them to be really dead. Is that the idea? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Okay, so anyhow, but let's get to the good stuff. I didn't love it. I didn't love it. I didn't love it from a plotting perspective. I don't think we got a really, it didn't feel satisfying after all this buildup of this feeling inevitable. We dealt with it in one episode.
Starting point is 00:39:49 And. I think that's good. There was a lot of political intrigue and then the whole thesis statement of the show was like, all of this doesn't matter. The apocalypse is coming. And now they enter the apocalypse. So now it all did matter.
Starting point is 00:39:58 But that's really so. But I think that's what they're saying is. Nationalist or whatever. I think what they're saying is, the danger isn't from without is from within. But danger is not but as a global warming allegory. Yeah, but it wasn't it. It's not a global warming allegory. George R. Martin was like, I'm going to write a book about global warming. That's not what by the way, that's what he said is how it's being used on the show.
Starting point is 00:40:21 That's what everybody is trying to project onto it. But I do not think that I think is an allegory for the true enemy is humans. It's not external, it's not God, it's not the forces of nature. What is the cause of climate change? Is it the white walkers? Is it a magical force from outside? Is it God deciding that it's time for the planet to start heating up? But you know, I don't, yes. I don't, I just, I don't, if you want to make it about climate change, actually, you've made your,
Starting point is 00:40:51 you've actually, you've actually destroyed your own point because the reality is, the real threat is people, okay? The real threat is Cersei. But she's actually not the real threat. Here's my theory. First off, we don't know the Night King is really dead. He maybe slowed down. We only have a few episodes left. There may be another night king. We're down with him. Night king too. I like to boogle. Well, there's some theory about Danny becoming a night, the night queen, which
Starting point is 00:41:15 could be pretty cool. Yeah. Fire and ice and all that. All right. At any rate, which definitely you like that. I mean, I get some chills thinking about it. I'm a fan art perspective. Yeah, you're like, yeah, from a from a from a what is the fucking side with all the fan art on it? What is it called? No, no, no, no, no, no, why am I blank how this? Fuck what is a lot of an accident? Maybe devian art devian art devian art perspective is gonna be really good, but um So this is gonna be some bad tattoos if that happens anyway, so the brand so the brand thing The I think everybody was like oh brand and and the night King is the ultimate showdown It's like the three-eyed Raven and the night King and we was like I guess some people were mad because Arya like showed up
Starting point is 00:41:58 Yeah, but I think this is this is brand's plan He's planned from the beginning his plan was basically to like distract the Night King. He was there, Dr. Strange, and he was like, I've seen every scenario, and there's one where we win. There's a ridiculous amount of similarities, by the way, between the end of end game, and the end of the last episode of Game of Thrones. Like, you could almost draw like,
Starting point is 00:42:19 very specific and direct parallels between the two. It's as if there's something culturally going on that was heavily reflected in both works. Well, I tweeted this on the night of, and I haven't seen it yet, and I hope it doesn't happen, but there's definitely a huge opportunity for somebody to do a Trump as the night king, AOC as Arya, type of meme that.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And who's just, who's brand? Oh, I'm late thing. Chapo. No, no. Like who's distracting, who's distracting Trump right now? Biden. Brandon is Biden. Yeah, but he's pretty touchy-filly with ladies.
Starting point is 00:42:53 You know, you don't see it, but it reaches up from that. We all share and grabs and asses. He does a lot of this. He's like a George H.W. Bush. He also takes corporate money. He's going on. He's wargied. The three-eyed Raven takes a lot of corporate money.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Look, when Brandon's warguing, his hands tend to wander. He can't be responsible for what they're doing at any rate. So, okay, now, I'm going to hit you with a fucking, I'm going to hit you with a little bit of mind, of blowing, mind, which I have not seen anywhere. And so, this will be, I want everybody to listen to understand this is a first ever exclusive tomorrow podcast game of Thrones theory that has I have not seen somebody get read it on the line call reddit 976 reddit okay so people are like oh what happened to this prince that was promised storyline bust out a little theory what if Arya is pregnant with Gendry's baby Gendry the true air
Starting point is 00:43:47 Just in in terms of chronology Robert Bratham was king He died his son became king his son became king. I think another son became king They're all dead and then it's like sir say alright fine like there's no people left to be the king But technically speaking, Gendry would have jumped the line in front of all of them because he's as bastard, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Gendry, who made love to Arya, or Arya made love to Gendry, and I'm not really sure. I don't know what happened exactly, but they definitely had sex. They went to Pound Town and there's no condoms in Westyer. There's definitely no condoms. Definitely no condoms.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And they'd have not heard about the rhythm method. They know anything about that. It happened to be perfectly done. Rhythm method, rhythm nation, no awareness of that whatsoever in the land of West Rose. And yeah, she's pregnant with Gendry's baby, who would be, they would be, could potentially ascend to the throne, king and queen, right, bringing together House Bratheon and House Stark, and their child could be the prince that was promised. The prince promised with his flaming sword.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Well, I mean, say she was, maybe she was only able to kill the Night King because she's been impregnated with the prince, Prince Lee Power, which somehow weirdly would be applauded that takes an achievement of a woman away from her and gives it to a man. And to her baby. Yeah, exactly. So I think very in line with all what we know about the game of Thrones universe. Do you guys is salivating?
Starting point is 00:45:09 He's like, yes. Anyhow, I just think there's something going, there could be something going on there that's part of the whole like tablo. Anyhow, I thought it was fucking great. I loved it. I know that when George Iron Martin never finishes his book with the ending would have been, is that the night King
Starting point is 00:45:23 kills everybody and takes over the world and it's an apocalypse. And that would have been really satisfying. That might still happen. ending would have been is that the night King kills everybody and takes over the world and it's an apocalypse and that would have been really sad. I might still happen. I would have loved that. Fion bit the dust. I guess he won't be coming. He won't be. He was in brand was like, you're a good guy. No, that's what I got to die. That's what Fion needed to hear. Okay, he just needed like, he wanted to feel like, you know, he, I mean, he did kind of fuck a lot of people over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:47 And then he got, then he got, then he got really fucked over. Yeah. God. Poor Rick. How is there no magical way to get him a dick and balls? We don't know if there is, but we'll never find out now. Maybe various can, Melissa 100 definitely has a dick and balls. I don't know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Greyworm has a penis but no testicles, is that correct? Yeah. It's a greyworm. Is don't know, I don't know. Greyworm has a penis but no testicles, is that correct? Yeah, yeah. It's a greyworm. Oh, is that the thing? I don't know. I don't think that's it. God, anyhow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:13 So I enjoyed it. Wow, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I felt satisfied. I felt like it was fine. It was fine. I'm not like I had a higher body. I'm sorry, I'm not like, you know, ringer mindset on this.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Like, I'm not like 14 think pieces a day about Game of Thrones. I'm like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't need, I'm not, I'm like, this is a show. Yeah. It's basically absurd. It's thrilling to watch. There's nothing about it where I'm like,
Starting point is 00:46:39 I'm really learning about myself. Like, I'm, there's no life lessons in Game of Thrones. No. Like, it does like to pretend that there is. Yeah, it's like, not today. Like, I agree no life lessons in Game of Thrones. No. Like, it does like to pretend that there is. Yes, like not today. Like, I agree. I'd rather not die today. I'm on board with this kind of drag queen set at first.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah, I'm just saying like. It's not that deep. It's not, not things that deep. It's a, it's a show about dragons. I'm sorry. By the way, I love it and the books are wonderful. It's super entertaining and the books are, are some of the greatest pieces of fantasy writing ever.
Starting point is 00:47:08 But it's not like, I don't know, I don't feel like, I'm not a fan, I'm not just not a fan person. There's not end to being a fan. Speaking of fans, talk about end game. Let's talk about end game. So okay, so by the way, what an insane and epic week in fandom. Oh yeah, an insane week.
Starting point is 00:47:23 We're at peak fan. Peak culture. Peak geek. Well, something like geek anymore. It's everything. Everything's gay. I wrote, okay, so I posted a piece on medium, which was like my diary of my news. Yeah, you guys should read. Ryan wrote a, he took notes while he was doing his 56 hour movie marathon. And it gets pretty well. It's a 23 minute read. So it's like, it's kind of like the reading equivalent of watching 56 hours of Avengers movies. And I'd be like, what I looked at that meeting,
Starting point is 00:47:49 it was like a 5,200, 23 minutes, sorry. It's like a minute of movie. It's just some interesting observations in there. Yeah, definitely worth reading because they definitely lose touch to reality. But at the beginning of it, I said, I definitely identify as a geek or a nerd, but we're at a point now where that doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Like when you tell someone you're a geek, that doesn't convey that you like, you know, you do console mods, or you collect comic books, or you, I mean Geek or Nerd at this point means like, I saw it into the spiderverse, and I have an HBO subscription. Okay, I mean, I did both of those things. I miss when that meant something,
Starting point is 00:48:20 but we're at like peak nerd stuff being just culture. Like nerd culture is just culture at this point, kind of stuff. And endgame is like, I don't know if our next phase of Marvel movies is gonna have that universal cultural thing. I don't know if this is permanent or not, but endgame is really like a moment in history for like where like this is the,
Starting point is 00:48:39 feels like a culmination. Yeah, I felt like I have to say, I'm satisfying. I went to see end game on my own. I could not handle it. So first of all, it was spoiled from me on Twitter on the Monday, the Monday following the opening weekend. So you forgot on Twitter? Well, it was spoiled by an asshole who was just trying
Starting point is 00:48:56 to like spoil for people in a really sneaky way. Like a guy who screamed in the parking lot, Snape killed Dumbledore when the book was released. No, that didn't, when did that, what are you talking about? Right when that was six Harry Potter book, I was just... Oh, so be doing that. Snape guy was just driving from Mark and I had to park my video tape and stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Really? Snape killed Dumbledore and people would break down in tears. Wait, does that happen? Yeah, Google is on YouTube, it's amazing. No, no, I don't want to. Okay, anyhow, just watch people's whole world come apart. See, that's why you can't get too invested in these things. But, so I went to see it in the theater by myself,
Starting point is 00:49:28 because I was like, I will not stand for this. I'm not going to have this movie completely ruined. By the way, first Marvel movie, I've seen all of the movies, except I have not seen the Incredible Hulk. Good, with Edward North. You're fine. You've seen nothing. I gotta see it now.
Starting point is 00:49:41 First Marvel movie I've seen in the theater, which is pretty wild. Yeah, that is wild. In a decade. You've never seen it in the theater, which is pretty wild. Yeah, that is wild. In a decade. You've never seen one in the theater? No, 20 to movies. Nope, I've seen them all in the theater now. Never, not one.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And I wasn't really that interested in them until like, Ragnarok. Like a round black and a rag- Incredible movie. Ragnarok Dr. Strange, Black Panther, top of all that. Dr. Strange, I have to, I need to revisit Dr. Strange. I love Dr. Strange. I don't remember not the doctor strange I have to revisit doctor strange I don't remember not being that like excited about it. I can't remember who the villain is But I think the villains like lame the villain is yeah, it's not the villain doesn't make it another
Starting point is 00:50:15 Dr. Strange. Oh, yeah, they'll definitely make like too. It's very good. Okay. So anyhow, I mean Tell the Spence and rips well, she's a very controversial character. Very controversial. Yeah, I mean, racist, but rap. So rap. Yeah, I told you it's great, but I also love that in it, Steven Strangel's like, magic, well, this doesn't make any sense. He lives in New York with the Avengers and he's like, a magic, that's not real.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Yeah, it is odd. You think he'd be like, yeah, I've seen magic a whole bunch of times, an alien. Yeah, definitely post like Avengers stuff. Yeah, like Thor has been on the cover of The New York Post. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like you'd be a little bit your whole world
Starting point is 00:50:49 with your My Builds. Well, the problem with these movies is and you talk about this a little bit is that like they seem to want to exist in two places. One is like our reality. And the other is in some other reality that like where none of our reality happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:00 And so like that seems to carry over to a lot of the characters where like everybody's kind of like, sorry, the non-main characters are all kind of like sort of like, yeah, there's weird alien superheroes and then sort of like, nah, this is normal life. And then like super science, they don't blad an eye at all or international travel and don't bat an eye, but if someone can conjure up a bunch of sparks, they're like, what? That's wild. That's true.
Starting point is 00:51:28 It's true. But endgame, it's satisfying, very satisfying. Well hold on, hold on. Time travel makes no sense, nobody should ever do it. But if you're gonna do it, I mean, there's some things that like you bathe, first of its three hours, there should be a fucking intermission in it.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Oh hell yeah. It is a five minute intermission. It is so long. And I remember like hitting that, I remember I counted every minute, every hour. I was like, okay, I got it first hour. I can do this. I'm like second hour, I'm like, all right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:51:54 We're in the end game now. But look, there's a lot of fan service. Lots. But there are, there are, it works really well. There are absurd like, I mean, I think it's best in the Marvel universe at this point to not be like, those plot doesn't make any sense. Yeah, because like, they really, they really, a lot of them really don't. I mean, a lot
Starting point is 00:52:13 of them really don't make any sense. Like, like, you know, it's hard to imagine the whole, like what condo, for instance, massive metropolis makes us sense. It's just like total Reddit. We're the whole Reddit theory where Ant-Man should go up Thanos' butt and then explain. That actually is a good theory. It's really like, I'd like to see that happen. But okay, but there are so many crazy plot. Like, you know, Tony.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Tony, Tony Stark, he's like, I figured out time travel and it's like based on what? I know you've been maybe working on it since like Ant-Man showed up and was like, what if he just like, I figured out time travel. And it's like based on what? I know you've been maybe working on it since like Ant-Man show up, and was like, what if he just like, damn it around. And he was like, what if we could do time travel? And Tony's like, no, ridiculous, we're not gonna do it. And then he's like, I got it.
Starting point is 00:52:56 But like, and you're like, okay, sure. But what was it that you got from Ant-Man? Pim Particles. Like the Pim Particle. You didn't get the Pim Particle, though. Yeah. At any rate, there's a lot of, there's a lot of like McGuffins and like,
Starting point is 00:53:11 red herrings and like, Deus Ex macados in the movie, that you know, like, okay, but that said, there are some truly thrilling moments in it. Yeah. There are some, when Cap's got the worth hammer.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Okay. There's two, there are two moments in this movie. Yeah. There are some, when Cap's got the worth hammer. Okay. There's two, there are two moments in this movie. Again, I want to say, if you're listening to this and you've not seen it, please don't listen until you've seen it because I don't want it ruined my friend, buddy. There are two, there are two particularly amazing fan service moments. They're both fan service and they work on just like a really good
Starting point is 00:53:43 like narrative level. One is you know they go back to I guess is the Avengers. Yes, they go back to New York. Avengers assemble moment. And you know Captain America is on the elevator with all these Hydra guys who are like taking the test reactor whatever. And he does the Hailale Hydra thing, but Hale Hydra was like a big thing in the comics because like they basically, like there was this huge controversy with Captain America. He was like secretly announcing it.
Starting point is 00:54:13 He was secretly working for Hydra the whole time. And people are like, loot, lost their shit. You were so mad. But there's actually, I actually just right because New York Magazine published something on it when it happened. I think it was in 2015 or 2016.
Starting point is 00:54:24 It was 2015. And, and 2016, because we were in the something on it when it happened. I think it was in 2015 or 2016. It was 2015. No, 2016, because we were in the thick of actual monsties again. Yeah, is that true? Maybe it was actually late, maybe 2017, at any rate. And then there's this insane backlash where people were literally sending the writers of this comic, like insane death threats. People were like, I've lived my whole life by the code of Captain America. Now you're telling me that everything I've lived for is bullshit and like, I'm going to hunt you down
Starting point is 00:54:47 and kill you. Spoiler alert, it was. Don't let your life be fun at comic book. Like the person was literally like, now that my code is destroyed, why should I? Now I'm a Nazi. Yeah, literally was that. It was like, what was keeping you?
Starting point is 00:55:00 Yeah, so, so, so, so, So there's an amazing like call back to that in the most perfect and incredible way. And then there's a scene where during the big battle where he gets Thor's hammer, which is just like, also Cap V cap to Cap's fight. Yeah, that's excellent. I'm just like, look, I've seen Street Fighter.
Starting point is 00:55:19 So it's not impressive to me when like there's two reviews. There's two Ken's with different colored outfits. Like I've got there. No, it was very good. Capcom versus Marvel. There's two Ken's with different colored outfits. Like I've got you there. No, it was very good. It was very entertaining. Capcom, the hammer. And I have to say the ending was the defeat of Thanos, the captain.
Starting point is 00:55:34 By the way, I still haven't seen Captain Marvel. So there's a few missing pieces, but I have to say we talked about this and you're like, well, she's a pretty big part of the story. And like actually, she's like a person who's there. Yeah. Who's very powerful. And then Lee didn't really give her any development. Nothing really happens. Then she comes back with a new haircut. and actually she's like a person who's there, who's very powerful, and then lead. They don't really give her any development.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Nothing really happens. Then she comes back with a new haircut, which I gotta say, very good. Very good. Very good haircut. Yeah. And whoever in space is cutting women's hair hats off to you. Space barber.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Space salon. Near the planet's Zygorg 7. There's no gravity. We're gonna give you a artful fringe. Yeah. So like, listen, we, as they're like, we're doing, uh, what is that hair? Yeah, what is that called like, with that hairstyle? It's like a buffant.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Yeah. And whatever it is, they're like, we can't actually do another style. Like the gravity on this planet doesn't allow us to do a different hairstyle. Um, and, uh, you know, it was very satisfying. Very satisfying. It was, it was, but I also feel strongly, I mean, the whole Captain America thing at the end, I don't, I've kind of done understand and sort of hated, I mean, the time travel of it all makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Also, the idea that Captain America would watch everything bad happen in the last 100 years and just be like, man, I'm not buying that. I mean, also like, first up, old Captain America looks shockingly like Joe Biden. I don't know if anybody's pointed this out. I was like, he kind of looks like Joe Biden. And I was like, is this like a weird election year thing where they're like, Joe Biden? It's like a subconscious like, we love him. He's basically our Captain America.
Starting point is 00:56:58 He's not. Is it a Marvel like some alt-right guy or something? I hope not. That would be very disappointing. I think that's the case. Well, anyway, okay, that He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. He's fine.
Starting point is 00:57:09 He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. He's fine. I hope not. That would be very disappointing. I think that that's the case.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Well, anyway. Okay, that would explain why Kaz and Meg is all a hail hydra. But, you know, I will say this, over, it took 11 years and 22 movies, but I finally, sort of like the characters and think the movies are fairly competent. Yeah. But like, they click better when you- I didn't feel that way for a long time. I also think, and I wrote about this in the piece, but I also think that the reason that these movies work better than other superhero franchises is that similar to the Kardashians, like you can switch out who work focusing on. So you get bored with one of them
Starting point is 00:57:34 and then someone else has a new drama. And so it keeps it kind of mixed up. Yeah, I stick a Tony star. I have to say, I thought he did a really good job with Hawkeye. I thought that he is what? Hawkeye. Well, then this character's name? Yeah, but I just laugh at him every time.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Jeremy Ranner. Can't stand Jeremy Ranner. Hawkeye's useless. And his boring family with Velma from Scooby-Doo. Keep that. Did you not care about his farm or his kids? When his kid disappeared, I was like, good. Hey, there.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Wow. Well, as a parent, as a parent, I thought that. I thought that moment was very. We hit home, Brianna, it was very impactful. Well, you didn't see yourself as Tony Stark and the little girl with Zelda, because I was like, that was a little bit, oh my god, that relationship felt very familiar to me. I was like, this is Josh. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's, I will say, their interplay felt very familiar to,
Starting point is 00:58:17 to stream with you and Zelda. But, but, but, but, but, but I think the point of that and the point of the, the Jeremy Renner plotline was to give, and I think that's, you and Zelda. But I think the point of that and the point of the Jeremy Renner plot line was to give, I mean, I think one of the things that so many of these characters have been lacking is like a grounding in like, they need to refer about.
Starting point is 00:58:36 No, but this is deep in space. The future, yes. I mean, the future, they keep like, they flirted with this like when they blew up like the fake Romanian country or whatever. It was like, oh, yeah. It was a copia. It was a copia. It was Malaysia and Germany. Yeah, it's like, I mean, they're like, they're like, we can't keep taking these lives.
Starting point is 00:58:51 It's like, yeah, but it's like vague groups of lives that is like really just background. I don't give a shit about it. And there was a real stakes and I think finally it was like, oh yeah, like, we're like, oh my god, like a Spider-Man vanished or you know, Spider-Man like got snapped, but like, we're like, oh my God, like a Spider-Man vanished, or you know, Spider-Man got snapped, but also so did some kids. Yeah, there was a real terra firma for lack of a better, like real earth, like we're down on the ground, and that's what I like to ask Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:59:15 When the stories get to superinflation, we're like lifting countries out of the sky with like, we're gonna go act as those, like, and it's just, you reach a point where you're like, we'll act as soon, and then you're not, yeah. they're waiting to cast Drew Barrymore. Is that, is go act as gonna be in the next one? Is that the rumor?
Starting point is 00:59:30 Yeah, that's like a bigger villain. Yeah, is go act as gonna just pick up where Thanos left off. And the Silver Serfer is gonna show. That could be cool. I do think, I will say this, I like Silver Serfer. At the end of the movie, I felt like, yeah, I don't know if I wanna,
Starting point is 00:59:47 I know that we gotta shrink down. That's what I think they have a Josh. I think they have a Josh. I think they've got a Josh Charles situation on their hands that I really do. Oh yeah. I do. I think this is very much a good wife,
Starting point is 00:59:58 Sans Josh Charles. That's why I said, it's like Jerry left the Spice Girls. I think it's gonna be, that doesn't work for me as analogies as much, but like I think it's like Jerry left the spice girl. I think it's gonna be that doesn't work for me as an analogies as much, but like I think it's one of those things where it's like without Iron Man. And by the way, Robert Downey Jr. an unbelievably charismatic and fun actor to watch.
Starting point is 01:00:16 You know, without Captain America, who is less fun, but like his stick is good, whatever it is. People like him. You know, Black Widow, I don't wanna say too much about it, but Black Widow doesn't seem like she'll be returning for an Avengers film. I'm sure they can figure it out.
Starting point is 01:00:31 I just feel like, yeah, I'm sure Captain Marvel's great. I'm not knocking Captain Marvel. I like Dr. Strange, charming character, interesting. I think we're gonna grow up, Spider-Man will grow up a little bit, Black Panther will come in, and then we'll get a couple new heroes, and we'll get a new team altogether. Yeah, but who's like, who's the new, like center of the Avengers?
Starting point is 01:00:49 It's probably gonna be Dr. Strange. I don't see it. He's that smart Alecgy, like, nah, I gotta quit for everything. He doesn't have leadership vibes. He doesn't leadership vibes. Who's the leader? Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Captain Marvel. Yeah, Captain Marvel. I mean, yeah, yes. Here's what I don't like. I mean, Captain Marvel, I mean, yeah, yes. Here's what I don't like. I mean, black Panther, I could see. I'm fine with Falcon becoming the new Captain America, even if he doesn't have like powers, I guess, like I'm fine with it.
Starting point is 01:01:13 It would have been better to me if it was the Winter Soldier. I don't like Anthony Mackie. Okay, and he's not gonna be able to carry me. Here's my issue. It's not gonna be able to carry me. I wanna know, I'm just like, what was going on with his beard? It was driving me insane at the end. That last scene. It's not annoying. No, no, it's like, I get it, like I'm just like, what was going on with his beard? It was driving me insane at the end.
Starting point is 01:01:25 That last scene. It's not annoying. No, no, it's like, I get it. It's a thing, but there was something about the way that it was sculpted. Yeah. By the way, there's a lot of bad facial hair in the Avengers. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Tony Stark has the worst. I mean, I feel like they're almost like winking at us to like, remember how bad Tony Stark's like, fucked up weird go-to years? It's like porn. Yeah, it's like, this one's like a different kind of weird facial hair situation. But like, I was like the whole time during that scene, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:01:46 what's going on with this beard? Like commit to something on the beard front. Like I need a, it just feels like two, there's too much going on and then not enough. Yeah, the Thor was a little too much beard. The Thor, the Thor jokes, like it was fine, it was very funny at first, but then it was like, honestly, when he got his like new hairstyle for the final battle,
Starting point is 01:02:06 it was like a fucking top-not and shit. I was kinda like, this is a little ridiculous. Like kind of looks not good, looks ridiculous, not realistic. If I could, I didn't, I don't, I can't handle it. The fake, but the fake body was so fake. I don't care. It didn't seem real to me.
Starting point is 01:02:23 I like a Husky fellow. I know it's fine. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, you know, you know. No, I mean, care. It didn't seem real to me. I like a Husky fellow. I know it's fine. I'm just saying, I'm just saying like, you know, you know, his love handles didn't look real. I also think it kind of undercuts the Thor Ragnaron character development that he had to have him just be like, you know, like, trying and like, having this like, this thing with his mother when it's like,
Starting point is 01:02:38 that was like from Thor the Dark World. Yeah, like, I don't remember anything about Thor the Dark World, nor do I care. No. I mean, was that like, did Natalie that only poor man actually act in this film? No, they used old footage. They did. Okay, that's what I thought.
Starting point is 01:02:49 They had a, they were like, now we're in some line. Really love to have you do one line. She's like, I'm just not interested. How about, I don't. She's like, I'm not really fucking poor, man. You can kiss my ass. Yeah. You guys didn't help me sell any tickets to Vox Lux, so I'm not helping you.
Starting point is 01:03:02 By the way, I beat so many. I mean, Laura, by the way, is like having some kind of weird thing where, you know, she remembers everything, but for some reason, cannot remember that we've watched every Avengers movie, every Marvel movie. Like, at some point, we've sat on our sofa while I've watched the movies and she's sat next to me, either reading or doing something else, but like, somewhat in and out, but like, in there, she sees a couple C.J. explode. She was like talking about like, she like made some joke.
Starting point is 01:03:28 It's like about Anthony Hopkins, like, and it's like, yeah, he's in a lot of them, like in a fairly substantial role, fairly important. She's like, really? I'm like, yeah, I'm like, like everybody's in these movies. So many fucking people.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Everybody. Jude Law. I forgot to Glenn Close shows up. Glenn many fucking people. Everybody. Jude Law. I forgot to Glenn Close shows up. Glenn Close fucking. No, it's not. It's John C. Riley. I mean, the title's Swinton. I mean, is John C. Riley?
Starting point is 01:03:51 Yeah, what's he in? He's in Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Oh, right. Yeah. It's very weird. People have, I forgot Glenn Close in the movie, saw her, then I forgot she was in it again, because she's not in it for so long.
Starting point is 01:04:03 She came back, I was like, what the fuck is going to do it? It's so crazy. I did, I will say I thought that I did think I do got a cast loosely. I hear what I want to know though. How does the snap work? Because I'm like, yeah, I'm like, it's like, do you have to think, I'm like, okay, I'm going to think I want all the bad people in Thanos' crew to be snapped out of existence. Which is to think, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna think I want all the bad people in Thanos is crew to be snapped out of existence. Which is, I think you dangerously vague thought. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Like Gamora, was she snapped out of it? Like it's like a gin. But how does it get decided? How does it get decided? Like Gamora seems like she was bad up until like five minutes before the snap occurred. And then she was like, yeah, maybe I should like fight for these guys. So like three thought. But like, what if she was in the middle of still totally deciding if she was gonna be like a good guy?
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah. And it also like asks you to like basically ask you and when you think about it that way, maybe it's just like Thanos' forces. But also, in that case, like what does that mean? If you can just keep adding more and more onto your wish, why wouldn't you just come up with a bunch of stuff? Be like no more cancer.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Everybody gets, you know, everybody lives forever, like just keep adding things and then how many how many thoughts? How many things can you add? Can you, like, you buffer them right here? Like, okay, here's what I want. All of Thanos, Thanos and all his forces to disobey. Also, I don't want my arm to die. Become a radiated guy. All right. I'd like to live through the snap. No cancer. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Okay, snap. Can you do that? Sega does hardware again. Can you load them up? Or is it just like, just trying to have the universe? I don't know. It's like that.
Starting point is 01:05:50 It's like, just one. It's not been established. Yeah, right, exactly. Well, we didn't even take the time to establish time travel. Well, me, Hulk gets reverses the snap. Yeah. He's like, so I'm guessing the thought was like, reverse what Thanos has done.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Yes. Reverse what Thanos has done. That's an easy answer. Or bring everybody back that Thanos snapped out of existence. Yes. To what that is. That's an easy or bring or bring everybody back that Thanos that Thanos snap that of existence. Yes to now Yeah, a lot of thoughts actually quite good. I'm not gonna be very confusing at the high schools like register Yeah, I mean that's the other thing is that I guess it's fine people are like But you imagine you didn't have a kid for three years and now you have a kid again Could anybody have realized how much I made a home gym could anybody have realized how much this show?
Starting point is 01:06:24 Oh, sorry this movie would have realized how much this show, sorry, this movie would have in common with his show. It's a 11 year long. It's the first season of Marvel. Who would have thought, interestingly, that the Avengers universe would have a lot in common with the show Manifest, which is the, I have a show I've been watching. I don't even see that nobody else watches about it. Plain that disappeared and then came back five years later.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Yeah. So literally all of the things that the people in the Avengers universe are going to be dealing with are like, you know how Paul Red's kid has grown up? Yeah. That's exactly what happens on Manifest. It's like all the people come back and they're like, I'm still like, the kids like, I'm still 11 and his twin sister is like 16. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:01 And it's like, not cool. I like that. Yeah, well that's what's all happening all over the universe, all over the known universe. Fucking spores or like larvaes become whatever they become on like the planet that one guy's from. I got control over the rat population. Well, double.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Yeah. Anyhow, so yeah, end game was good. I do feel like it's the end of an era. I think they're gonna have a tough time. So great. So great. Yeah, I just think they have a tough time. There's also a generational divide. I mean, I think these movies are,
Starting point is 01:07:30 their time maybe, it's time for a different kind of movie. Yeah. Maybe I'm wrong. It felt like something was really ending, though, when I watched it. I think, yeah, it's definitely dead. I think they're gonna try to bring in the Fantastic Four. Maybe the X-Men get a little juice. X-Men are playing.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Too much. X-Men are playing. X-Men are playing. I mean, the Dark Phoenix trailer is doing nothing for me. I'll probably see it, but like, I don't, it's like, I love, and the X-Men are my favorite. That's the kind of movie I'll definitely wait till it's available on demand. Oh, not even. I'm gonna like, I don't want that shit.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Well, yeah, I mean, on demand. I'm not paying, paying nothing. You didn't see my air quotes. I'm paying nothing to see the film. You didn't see my air quotes that I did, and I said on demand. Um, I just think it's, it's, it's tough. Like I think we are at it.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I think the game with Game of Thrones ending and with Avengers, the Avengers sort of wind down or whatever is happening. Uh, the Star Wars is done. This is whatever this like. And by the way, Star Wars, what do you think replaced this nerd culture? Star Wars is already pulled back. Well, I don't know. I mean, I think we're at a really big bunch back. Crafting. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I mean, I think we're at a really big, much crafting movie to bring. Yeah, I don't know. To bring it all back, actually. I mean, like, I don't know what's going on with the Walking Dead. I think they're pretty close to finishing. I mean, that's my idea. I watched the first, like, three seasons
Starting point is 01:08:35 and then they kept making 19 more shows in video games and not like I can do that. I mean, I don't know. There's been a lot of stuff that's happened, but I haven't kept up with it because I kind of gave up after Negan showed up. Negan, Negan, whatever it is. Right, when we started the talking dead, I said,
Starting point is 01:08:46 I'm good. Yeah, and then the fear of the walking dead and so. I mean, interestingly, you know, I mean, zombies have been very prevalent in our culture. I mean, the game of thrones, essentially, was about zombies for a lot of it. We had vampires, then we went to zombies. So, but I think that, I think that there's an interesting moment happening.
Starting point is 01:09:08 I think this is actually a moment that's also like, I think there's a cultural moment coming with this election. We've had a really crazy, it's been a really crazy decade. We've had Obama happen, which was really wild for, I mean, just at least for America. Now we have, we're in the throes of Brexit. There's a insane turmoil in the European Union. There's insane turmoil in the Middle East. There's insane turmoil in South America.
Starting point is 01:09:36 There's insane turmoil in America. There's nothing in the US. It's truly like, they're really like the world is kind of on fire right now. And we don't have, it feels like we don't have adults. It feels like the adults have left the building. Everybody seems like a child now. I mean, it just feels like we're constantly
Starting point is 01:09:54 teetering on the end of the end of the world. Yeah. Trump tweeted 60 times. Like it's not fun. We tweeted 60 tweets the other day about Joe Biden in an hour, the president of the United States. I don't tweet 60 times in a week. Like fake, and I'm not the president.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Fake like high concept apocalypse is just less fun to watch now. Yeah, so I mean, it's like there's the New Godzilla movie, King of the Monsters, Titans. I don't get that. I'm not that doesn't get me that excited. I love Godzilla as a kid. I don't, I feel nothing. So the question is what happens next, you know?
Starting point is 01:10:24 I mean, is the superhero industrial complex sustainable? I love to. God's always a kid. I don't, I feel nothing. So the question is what happens next, you know? I mean, is the superhero industrial complex sustainable? I think there is a version of those things that are, but Westworld is not Game of Thrones. No, and the Game of Thrones spin off, I have, sorry, I just tell you, from what I've seen from the creative team. Ooh, I don't know what that's gonna be.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Well, the Game of Thrones spin office has the same problem that the Avengers, the next stage of the Avengers have, which is like all of your beloved favorite characters or a lot of your beloved characters are gone, or have evolved to a place that's very different than where you were rooting for them in June. I mean, it is a prequel, so they're not even in it.
Starting point is 01:10:57 With the Game of Thrones thing. Yeah. So, no, I'm saying like- I'm not gonna love the team they put together. So, what I'm saying is right. So, then it's like, so it's same thing was like, okay. You know, I know people love Captain Marvel, but Captain Marvel was part of a,
Starting point is 01:11:10 and so was Black Panther and the Ant-Man movies are part of like this building to like the big spectacle of joining everyone together, which we saw a bunch of times, right? So now it's like, okay, well, you've got a different set of- You can't do that exact trick again. Can you do that trick again and like also like how many intergalactic monsters are there? I'm so stuck with big gray monsters.
Starting point is 01:11:32 If I was to have a- I mean literally all of the DC movies so many of them suffered badly because like they had this concept of a big giant weird monstrous thing or- I'm from the government. Yeah I'm on killable. My name is BluPiWel. Yeah like this. You know, in Wonder Woman, it's some weird random demon thing.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Yeah. In justices, he gets some weird random demon thing. Yeah. It's just like, what is this? Ma-a-a-a. What's the, why should I care? At least with Thanos, they like slow rolled him for like a decade. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:01 He was out there. He was out there getting, yeah. And there were good, there have been good villains. And the point is, like what is, I think it's this whole thing. What's the next thing, but culturally, like I think something's happening. What happens if we have a sane person as president?
Starting point is 01:12:14 I think, I also think we're getting, I'm getting, we're all coming around to a feeling which is we've done all this self-care and all this nostalgia and all this like vote for, you know, whoever makes you feel like you're gonna burn the system down. I think we're also coming very culturally to a statement and I think P. Buttigieg is probably a good bellweather
Starting point is 01:12:31 for this of being like, okay, it's time to be a grown-up. And I don't even love everything about P. But the tone around him seems to be, he's a grown-up, he's sane, he's competent, he's smart. And I think we're culturally coming around to like, be a grown-up now. Now like no more superheroes, like let's be all be grown-up. No more superheroes is a really interesting idea because I think we're culturally coming around to like be grown up now. Now like no more superheroes like let's be all. I mean, no more superheroes is a really interesting idea because I think I have a lot of them. No more mutants. Well, I think like I think there is a,
Starting point is 01:12:53 you know, I think Bernie for a lot of people's like this like magical socialist superhero. He's gonna think there's gonna swoop in. He's gonna swoop in and make all these big changes and it's like all of a sudden like our lives are gonna be like, just overnight, it's gonna be a different. And I think that the reality of this world is change is like slow and hard. And everything has consequences, unintended consequences. And it's not like Bernie would be bad,
Starting point is 01:13:16 but like I'm also like, look, Biden would not be, is not my first pick. Oh no. But there is like, if Biden can like get Trump out of office, I'm like, I'm happy to accept that because I just want to see what life is like. I don't think if we like Biden, we're just going to get another Trump in 2024. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think there can be, I don't think there's ever going to be another person like Trump. Not exactly. Not exactly, but I think we'll get some other disaster
Starting point is 01:13:47 if it's Biden because that's the level of dissatisfaction people had with Obama. We need like someone who is big sweeping change personality. I don't even know. I love the bomb work. Obama did a lot of stuff. It's not like he didn't do anything. I didn't say he didn't do enough, but nobody ever did.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Nobody ever did. The level of like, I don't know. Isn't that the super heroes mentality? You want somebody to come in and have sweeping change, but like, wait a minute. I'm saying personally, I think culturally, we're at a point where no more superheroes, but sure.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Oh, personally, I would love to see like an AOC swing in and swing or dick around. But I think we're at a point where an AOC is not even eligible to run for president until what is that, is there an age thing? Yeah, it's like 36. 36, which is really dumb, weird. But I guess you don't wanna look like an 18 year old.
Starting point is 01:14:30 You get like, you know what I mean? No, I'm not gonna look like a dog mayor. You're like, oh yeah, you get like a, a, a, a, a, a Spud's McKenzie. It's kind of what we have right now though. Novelty Cat. This is the opposite, it's like a really old, it's like, an old novelty, very character,
Starting point is 01:14:42 it has an L character of like an old guy who's saying yeah, it's grandpa Simpson is the president. So yeah, anyhow, whatever. Anyway, we should probably wrap up. Yeah, but I think do you think it's interesting? Like I do think a lot of things are happening right now in culture in pop culture and in political culture in society in general and in how we deal with each other.
Starting point is 01:15:03 That's coming to kind of kind of come into a head, but coming to a head isn't quite the right way to think of it. It's more like settling down almost. Yeah. Like what I want now, I feel like the Avengers movies are like the build up. It's like, oh my god, massive intergalactic space creatures are trying to destroy all of like the universe,
Starting point is 01:15:21 which is like Trump. And now like I kind of want to like see a movie about some humans. Yeah, you want to go see her smell. No, I definitely don't want to see her smell. But yeah, you want to see. But I do think I was a joke growing up movie with growing up. I don't really said on Twitter that they should do a movie
Starting point is 01:15:38 where one of those creatures that comes out of the ship that immediately gets killed. And so I don't know what they are, where they come from. Like what would race are they? Like what planet are they from? Like do they talk? Like I don't know what they are where they come from, like what would race are they, like what planet are they from, like do they talk? Like I don't know, because they get stabbed immediately. I'm gonna shot at me.
Starting point is 01:15:49 I'd like to do a movie that's like a memento, or not my memento, but a movie that goes in reverse, irreversible, which is a very painful movie to watch. That's like from that moment backwards to see like the life that that creature had, like a fully, well it's kind of like, it's kind of like, what's his name?
Starting point is 01:16:06 Who's Drax? Yeah. Who's like, oh yeah, like he came here and he killed everybody on my planet and whatever. And it's like, yeah, Drax has like, was like a person just hanging out. Yeah, I went much for first smaller stories like that, I think it's a way more interesting.
Starting point is 01:16:18 I mean, the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, I didn't love the second one, but it was pretty entertaining. I thought those had something that was like more more like a movie about the characters and less a movie about the things the characters were doing, which is good. I'm so much prefer a character driven. The only problem is Chris Pratt. God. I mean, he's charming in his way in the movies.
Starting point is 01:16:39 No. When I see him, all I think is Hillsong. Right. And that's a problem. Fucking hate people. I have a lot of thoughts. I don't think is that attractive All right nice thing they don't hate gay people. They just don't think they should be part of the church They snootily disapprove snitily snitily. Yeah, snitty. Yeah, is that it?
Starting point is 01:16:54 Okay, so before we move on to anything else we got to talk about the sonic trailer Sonic the head chug the movie sonic fox sonic. It's we finally have evidence Ron she fucking okay now so sonic has first up sonic sweaty is hell first up. Okay first up. Let. We finally have evidence. Ron, she fuck it. Okay, no. So Sonic has first up, Sonic. Sweaty's hell. Okay, first up. Okay, first up. Let's just take, let's just back up for that.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Jim Carrey is Dr. Robotnik. Which I didn't know is happening. How is it in 1993? Sonic is, Jim's Mars didn't is in it. He's just approving of this. He's like, he's an officer. He's like, he's literally his, He's like, he's a proof.
Starting point is 01:17:25 He's like, literally his, like, the same character is in every mood. He's like a straight shooter who like, I don't know about this. There's a lot of nonsense. But then he gets pulled into it, just like in Westworld, and then he gets shot to death.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Um, repeatedly. He's definitely like a Teddy. It's like Teddy and Sonic's universe. But then, Sonic. Wait, they should fit Sonic and Westworld. That's good. What's the stop-thumb? What's really the stop-thumb? I mean, I don't understand what they don they should fit Sonic in West. Let's go. What's the stop some?
Starting point is 01:17:46 What's really the stop some? I mean, I don't understand why they don't have cooler things in West. No, I don't like dragons, whatever. Right, sucks. Um, Sonic is, Sonic is animated. He is a human teeth. Like regular human teeth. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Little chick-lit human teeth. Yeah, he definitely has to go to a dentist. Yeah, like, like he needs dental. As a manager's gone to the dentist, I can tell you, he's getting dental work done. His teeth look great. Yeah, but like they don't get that way on their own. No.
Starting point is 01:18:15 He's getting fluoride treatments or something. You know, he's whitening. Yeah, he's kind of water peck. He wears shoes. His proportions are all off. The whole body is just a random number of generations. It also, but like, he's got shoes on. Yeah, but nothing else.
Starting point is 01:18:27 But no pants. Like, there's a penis somewhere there, right? Yeah, buried in there. If he has teeth anywhere, shoes. I mean, him and Tails are doing it somehow. He has hands. They don't show tails in the trailer at all. So we don't know anything about tails,
Starting point is 01:18:36 but if Tails is not in it, I'd be very surprised. I'm curious. I'm gonna be, be serious. But like, but like, what if there's a post-credit scene where Tails shows up with the whole jacket Well, yeah, he's gonna tease it The tales movie You know, it's like I The problem with Sonic is that a hedgehog is a thing. Yeah, but Sonic is a is a video game hedgehog
Starting point is 01:18:56 If it was just an animated movie that looked like the sonic boom cartoon You can say this about the Pokemon movie, which is also unsettling except the Pokemon's are so But they're not real animals. Yeah, they're so like removed from like a thing that's real that you could almost, I'm not saying I like it or approve of it, but you could almost make an argument. Yeah, they'd like you'd work. Yeah. Okay, you're just like a weird like a ghost.
Starting point is 01:19:17 And we don't normally say, it's like regular looking people in the slime. It's like ghostbusters. Like slime or what's slimer? We don't know. Like we have a step slimer because it's a creature. Yeah, it's a creature. Yeah, it's a world-bearing world We being a fine right right so so sonic is a real so what happens if like a regular hedgehog shows up And they're doing it definitely do a site gag. Do we think that do we think they're gonna do a site gag We're talking to a hedgehog. He's like this guy knows what's up and this is the hedgehog in slowly
Starting point is 01:19:39 Yeah, um, do we think that sonic was created? It's some kind of lab experiment. I don't know sonics backstory I assume definitely gonna be Dr. Robotnik is tightened to see somehow created him. Yeah. Yeah. We get a tease at the end of the trailer of the true form of Dr. Robotnik, which is like the Dr. Robotnik from the game,
Starting point is 01:19:55 which is bald, insane mustache sticking down the sides. Real skinny legs. Yeah, skinny legs, but a huge fat body. Like a ball with legs and arms getting out of it. And he's still doing some like a robot suit. But I'm evil ironman, what am I to say? But he the sound, the soundtrack for the trailer is gangster's paradise by Kulio. Gangsta's paradise by Kulio, which is like by the way, wow, like blast from the past. I don't maybe the movie set in like 1999. Maybe the movie set in like 1999 or whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Whenever Jim Carrey most needed to put baby animals in robot suits. But it doesn't look good. It looks like it maybe was like, I mean, I actually think it was purposely bad. It's purposely bad. It definitely looks like something that the people on 4chan came up with.
Starting point is 01:20:40 They can meme it enough that it will be like be movie and people around. I don't think it's as memeable as like even the Pokemon trailer, which definitely looked better. Yeah, but still bad. Cause when you pursue that memeification in a false way, it doesn't come off as like earnestly, ironically, memeable.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Like Pokemon thinks it's a good movie and that's what makes it so fun to make fun of. Sonic does not think it's a good movie. I don't think anyone made this movie. I know. I have just made. I don't know they might think it's gonna make it. This is Frostnix and they not think it's a good movie. I don't think anyone made this movie. It's like, I have just made. I don't think it's an amazing. This is Frostnix. They might think it's like a really good movie. It might be a really good movie. I don't think it will be. I just want to, like, what do I like to the Paramount logo with the rings though? If he wears shoes, why not
Starting point is 01:21:19 pants? Do you think he's going to get all sparkly when he breaks the TV. Why doesn't he wear a shirt? Yeah. Why does shoes? Aerodynamic. Well, maybe he's like, I'm a head chog, but now that I run super fast because of the experiment that was done on my head. I gotta wear shoes because my shoes hurt.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Because he has a bunch of like old shoes in one of the scenes. Yeah. I like that we're now really thinking about the mythology of what's going on with. So I think it does look like extremely dumb and bad. Yeah. I'm definitely gonna see it.
Starting point is 01:21:49 I can't imagine seeing it. I can't imagine seeing it. I'm gonna see it. I'm gonna get a commemorative chaos emerald gonna play Sonic Mania while I wait for the trailer to end. I'll say you know what's really good for life for you for everyone is get like a really hectic job and a child and suddenly the things that you would be like,
Starting point is 01:22:09 I will spend some time with this, even though I know it's not good. They really kind of disappear. There were times I'm never doing that. That's why I don't watch Vanderpump rules. I mean, I think if I had, what, it's not. Well, we're not, let's not. Okay, let's land our end Vanderpump rules.
Starting point is 01:22:24 You watch, I was like, I even watched the, keeping up the Kardashians forever. Oh, yeah. I was like, let's get to the, I want to see the most recent episode that is available on Hulu. And it was like season 18, which is like what? It's going on. And it was like from December of 2018. So not that long ago.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Yeah. And you know, they still, there's still something. from December of 2018. So not that long ago. And you know, they still, there's still something. The Kanye stuff is extremely uncomfortable on that show. Like, like, it's like, I want, I really feel like Kanye is like, there's something truly wrong with him. I'm trying to figure out. He should not be on TV. He needs like help.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Like, we need 50 and 50. I don't know. Bye. He just needs, like, I don't know. But I was like, do you remember talking to Laura? I was like, remember when Kanye was like, a regular human that you didn't feel stressed out about every time you saw him?
Starting point is 01:23:10 The first time he really freaked me out is when he popped up in the background of the keeping the Kardashians. And he like whispered to himself, I like robots. I don't remember that. They were just talking about something else. And then Kanye just in the background just quietly said, I like robots.
Starting point is 01:23:21 And then they move on. I think he was just talking to himself. Maybe. And that was the first time that I was like, something's not right. Maybe. Yeah, that's like a game. And then they move on. I think he was just talking to himself. Maybe. And that was the first time that I was like, something's not right. Maybe. Maybe, but the, but the, but the point is, um, when he made that Don DeVideo game, that was tough.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Oh, I'd like to play that game. Actually, that's a game that should be coming to the outline. I got the, yeah, the Don DeVideo game. Um, no, but, uh but anyhow, so back to Sonic. How did the hell do we get on Kanye and Gekradiashan? This is where we always go. Oh, I was thinking, because I can't watch, I'm not gonna have time to watch the Sonic movie,
Starting point is 01:23:54 just like I kind of am interested in the second record Ralph movie, but not enough time to watch it. I'm not gonna introduce Zelda to the Sonic movie. I'll be like, it's a real father-daughter moment. At the dawn of time, there was a race of hedgehogs. They could run faster than any other hedgehogs. Only once revived into our modern era,
Starting point is 01:24:10 that hedgehog is known as Sonic. His mortal enemy is Jim Carrey in a fat suit. The love of his life is a freakish, god. The trailer so bad. I'm just thinking of the part where Jim Carrey is like talking about rank with the general or whatever. It's like you know what's rank? It was that scene.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Okay. Thing. You wanna do nice things? Nice things. Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I've one more thing I wanna talk about. Okay. Which is not a nice thing.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Oh God. I bought this game, Dave's gone. I mean, this is not nice. Well, okay. So, Dave's gone is a open world zombie slash biker game. Okay, you got AAA. AAA, it's like if the Walking Dead and last of us had a baby, kind of, with way less good plot and characters,
Starting point is 01:25:00 but still like a reasonably, enough, compelling basic ass narrative with like decent voice acting. I'm like in the look. No, it's a very beautiful game. It's pretty, it's hell. Fairly fun to play. So I read these reviews. I was like, oh, this could be cool.
Starting point is 01:25:15 Maybe this would be good. I like motorcycles, I like zombies, I like desolate post-apocalyptic open world scenario. So I was like, this kind of has it all. And I read these reviews and they're like, in the first five minutes of this game, I'm killing a five year old. And I'm like, oh, that's, I have a five year old,
Starting point is 01:25:33 that doesn't sound good. And then they're like, they're like, who am I killing, why am I killing them? Who are these people? And it's like, I was like, ah, this sounds like it sucks. Then, against the, I had a drink and I was like, ah, I was what, download it. I was a target reading the review. I'm like, I'm not gonna buy it. Then I got home and it was like 10 o'clock and I was like, I'm not going to download it. You know, I was a target reading the review.
Starting point is 01:25:45 I'm like, I'm not going to buy it. Then I got home and it was like 10 o'clock. I'm like, I'm downloading this. So it's like, okay, yes. You appear to be killing children, but they're not children. They're like, just fucked up, like monsters who are attacking you.
Starting point is 01:25:57 And it's like, I'm sorry. Like, in a post-apocalyptic hell world where everybody's been like mutated into a monster that's trying to attack me, whether they're dead or undead, they're not like, they're living in like, they're living in holes filled with leaves and branches, and their faces are like half chewed off,
Starting point is 01:26:14 and they're like, yeah, they're like, try to eat you. They're cannibals. I just feel like, I don't feel that bad. I wasn't like, I'm all those, I'm like, I'm going to whack this thing in the head with a table leg with what you can do in the game. Bye. And I'm not going to feel that about it.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Is it once you get over this, like I don't know what it's like to do to the game. It's a short. For me, people I've shot in the face in a video game, you think I would do, I'm sorry, if I started playing my real life rules to this, I'm like, I need to play, Grand Theft Auto's off the table.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Everything's off the table. I'm only playing Tetris now. Now I'm just playing Tetris. Which is fine. Playing a lot of Bubsy. Yeah, Bubsy. Bubsy's a cat? Bubsy's a bobcat?
Starting point is 01:26:54 Okay, all right. Deep dive done Bubsy earlier today. I'm excited about it. I saw your tweet. Any or your, it was in Slack, I don't know where it was. Any help? So incredible. So I don't know, I haven't played enough yet.
Starting point is 01:27:04 I like, it's one of those games where you're like, it's like fucking red dead redemption. It's like you need a throttle for your bike. I'm like, but I need to throw it for my bike in real life. Like I need to just think of that. I need to give me a plot of some kind of shopping in a game. They're like this guy, his crew,
Starting point is 01:27:24 Stolar, meth that we need for, it's something like that, you know, it's like, they stole our, they stole our, they're not clips, go cook them or man. No, it's like always something like this, this crew of Raiders stole our blood reserves that we need for transfusions, go and get it back. It's like, but you need, your bike needs a throttle
Starting point is 01:27:40 and then it's like, and it's like, you gotta like find the, The eight layers deep on fetch guys. I'm like yeah I'm like okay what's the plot that's what last of us is so amazing. I know because it's just a character for pulse of plot not what's happening it's who's doing it. The whole game is like plot plot plot and then there's like really amazing sequences. I don't want to play on rails but in that doesn't you can kind of sort of it's almost open world but it's like I just anyhow so I don't know I'm not so that's not my nice thing I of, sort of, it's almost open world, but it's like, I just, anyhow, so I don't know.
Starting point is 01:28:06 I'm not, so that's not my nice thing. I just wanna talk about it for a second. All right, let's do a nice thing. What's your nice thing? Oh, wait, are you putting me on the spot? Yeah, let's hear it. I don't know how to lose. I'll go first.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Okay. So for my nice thing, I said last week that I had done this Game Boy Micro thing, so I started a new project and building the ultimate Game Boy Advance. I'm gonna rip in the whole thing apart and putting a rechargeable battery in it, new screen with brightness, adjustable brightness,
Starting point is 01:28:28 putting insane audio in it. It's basically gonna be real overkill. This thing's gonna cost me hundreds of dollars, but it's gonna be sick. And it's super famicom themed, stoked about all this. It's gonna be a project of the year. Did you get a new Game Boy? Yeah, thrilled.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Very excited. I follow up some several people on Instagram who do custom Game Boy's and I, there's a guy who I almost bought once went to hell. I follow some several people on Instagram who do custom gameboys and I, there's a guy who almost bought one from it. I mean, he does really sick mods. Yeah. Like really, really out there mods. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Like, gameboys that like have like flip out screens and like six buttons and like, yeah, it's really something else. So I'm going to build myself the ultimate gameboy advance. That's going to be my next project. I couldn't decide on something and I was like, I have so many gameboys, but it's the one I want to do. So fuck everybody. Um, that and then, um, to do so fuck everybody that and then
Starting point is 01:29:06 Wow, so fuck everybody so nice Other thing was I think I mentioned this before but I was at a retro gaming store looking for the game boy to have at and they had a virtual boy and so my nice thing was just deep diving on the virtual boy and Making plans to purchase one to have in my home. Play the terrible, I-Strain games. And I're on it, but I have to have it now. It's sick. I'm sick. What, the virtual boy?
Starting point is 01:29:31 I got to have a virtual boy. I don't think you should buy it. I think it's a deeply wrong with me. I think it's a bad investment. I don't care. I got to have it. Have I told you about how I keep putting a blackberry passport in my cart on Amazon?
Starting point is 01:29:41 That's sick. It's like, you're never gonna use it. I don't know why. I just want it It's like, you never gonna use it. I don't know why, I just want it. I don't know why I want it. I could literally go by those super NT and the mega SG and whatever, but I don't. Instead, I'm just fucking ting around with the Game Boy. Why am I not buying the high quality thing?
Starting point is 01:29:58 I don't know. Okay, I got one nice thing. My nice thing is that Laura has been working with Roxanne Gage on a new publication called Gay Magazine. And it launched yesterday, which would be two days ago. What does this look? You can just look. You're mad about that.
Starting point is 01:30:18 No, I'm excited. I can't tell. You're like, how dare she take Gay Magazine away from us? No, I am very excited. They've been working on it for a while. It is, you know, I mean, Roxanne wrote it and out of there's letter and you can read all about it, but they're really like finding, really interesting, some new voices, some voices that you know, to write really good, thoughtful, sort of beautiful stuff, like that really is
Starting point is 01:30:43 like the kind of shit, like the kind of shit I want there to be more of on the internet than there is not a lot of. Not like the personal assay about, like, it's tough to be a millennial, or like even the, even stuff that gets more serious, like there's a lot of, like there's like a lot of like kind of like fluff out there. This is not the fluff. This is like the good stuff.
Starting point is 01:31:01 And so they launched this on Wednesday. But yesterday, it seems like it's crazy. Two days ago, if you're listening to this. Yeah, and it's on, I think it's the, so you can go to it's gay.medium.com. And you know, like, look, I have my issues with medium, but they've actually, I mean, from what I've seen, they've really thrown their support in on this. And they've given them like a pretty long runway to like go and and do interesting stuff. They're paying writers really well. They're doing work that I think is super interesting. And so I'm excited to have seen it
Starting point is 01:31:33 from the sidelines sort of come together. I think Roxanne is brilliant. Obviously, I think Laura is brilliant. And so they've started, they put their first few things up. And it's a very exciting time to be alive. And so that's my nice thing. I think we should check it out. It's very different Very different than what I do very different than what we do on this podcast But very worth your time and so that's my nice thing and I'm very proud of of Laura and very happy and excited to see what Roxanne's doing in the in the publication space
Starting point is 01:32:04 So that's that's it. My other nice thing that I forgot was that I went to DC. Wow, I said to show me up last weekend and I went for a friend's 30th birthday and I was very tired from that marble marathon in the road trip in Boba. It's really out of it. And I opted to not do things.
Starting point is 01:32:20 I said like I'm too tired to get wasted. I don't wanna go clubbing. I'm not doing that. And so I just did the parts of the weekend that I wanted to do and I had a great time. And sometimes the best gift you can give yourself is a no. I've had a no. I've had mostly a week of not drinking and going to bed early and it's been pretty incredible. I like took a big two hour nap in the middle of the day and I was like, you're came all the way down. It's her birthday. I was like, no. Yeah. I'm going to take you to the hotel. You're gonna take easy. Take easy.
Starting point is 01:32:45 I'm gonna take a little lime scooter. Sidelined. I don't know what you did. And then I'm gonna sleep at the hotel. And I'll find you when I find you. I would watch a Ryan Hula hand reality show. Where's just like you, with your air buds in and whatever they're called, your AirPods
Starting point is 01:32:59 on your fucking lime scooter. Bopping around. Dabin. Do you vave, you don't vave? I vave, I vave. I vave. Yeah. Anyhow, babe, you don't, babe? I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I actually think I have like, I legit. When I was in the movie theater, this is then we should wrap up. But I was like, by the way, I was in a movie theater where I like, reserved a seat. They were big, like reclining seats.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Very nice. I haven't been to theater in a long time. I'm really stepping there. They've really stepped it up. This was like in an AMC theater. So it wasn't like an Alamo or whatever, but they've definitely, they feel the heat of Alamo clearly. Now I was like, wow, this is so nice.
Starting point is 01:33:43 I'm not like sitting on top of anybody. You know what, it's gonna talk to me. The aisles are super wise. If you need to get out, you're not gonna like clearly. And I was like, wow, this is so nice. I'm not sitting on top of anybody. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking to me, the aisles are super wise. If you need to get out, you're not gonna have to ask people to move their legs. You're not doing back flips. But even so, as soon as the lights went down, I was like, I gotta get out of here.
Starting point is 01:33:56 I wanna call them. Yeah, I was like, I gotta get them. No, it was definitely a weird little bit of panic where I'm like, I don't cost your photos. Yeah, like something. I guess, and that was sort of like, this must be why one of the reasons I hate flying. It's not just that I'm like, I don't cost a foe. Yeah, like something. I guess, and that was like sort of like, this must be why one of the reasons I hate flying. It's not just that I'm out of control of things,
Starting point is 01:34:09 but also like I'm on this like weird tiny tube in the air. It's like, when I was on the road trip, I was like, this sucks. I hate driving for seven years. No, I was talking to somebody and they're like, last night I was talking to somebody, they were like, well, I gotta go to this,
Starting point is 01:34:21 I gotta go to this thing after this, like should I take the trainer, get a car, I'm like, car, the train, the train's like five minutes faster, and it's like, look at how it was this, well, I gotta go to this thing after this. Like, should I take the trainer get a car? I'm like, car? So like, the train, the train's like five minutes faster and it's like, look at how it was this straight shot. I'm like, yeah, but you can always get out of the car. And I was like, hmm, this is me. That's how I'm like, you can always get out of the car. Like, I prefer a train just because I'm not,
Starting point is 01:34:37 nobody's in control. With the car, I'm like stressed about they're driving if they're going the right way. Trains just go. Yeah, they just go. I'm all about the car. They just fly, maybe a cellar. Wow.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Anyway, I think that's, we should leave it. Let's leave it right there. We covered everything. We really have. Okay. Intro? Intro.
Starting point is 01:34:54 This week we talk about, Bubsy. Sure, we didn't really talk about Bubsy. It's fine, it's fine. It's Fuzzy. Bubsy, Bubsy. Oh, we didn't talk about the Sonic trailer. Fudge! How do we not talk about the Sonic trailer? Let's just do a quick thing about the Fuzzy. Fuzzy, Fuzzy. Oh, we need to have a sonic trailer. How do we not have to have a sonic trailer?
Starting point is 01:35:07 Let's just do a quick thing about the sonic trailer. Like five minutes on Sonic. Okay, I'll throw it in somewhere. I feel like okay. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow, and as always, I wish you and your family the very best. But I've just been informed that your family has seen Sonic's penis. you

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