Tomorrow - 163: Nuclear Play Date
Episode Date: May 25, 2019This week saw the launch of a boutique handheld console, the end of Game of Thrones, the criminal charging of Julian Assange, and bombshell scoops about Elizabeth Warren being good at her job. Also an... umbrella jumped straight into Josh and Ryan's hearts and minds. The new Aladdin looks terrible. Enjoy episode 163 or get radiation poisoning! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey and welcome to Tomorrow.
I'm your host, Josh Wattipolsky.
Today on the podcast, we discuss deep fakes, flayed aides, and umbre to Tomorrow. I'm your host, Joshua Tupulski. Today on the podcast, we discuss deep fakes,
play dates, and umbrellas.
I don't always one minute.
Let's get right into it.
All right, Ryan, we're back.
It's more it's the beginning of Memorial Day weekend.
My favorite holiday
of May. I had no idea. I was walking through the park by work yesterday. There was all
these little flags that were in the lawn and I thought like God nationalism is out of control.
And now they told me it's Memorial Day weekend. I realize it was for dead people.
You're like this is no Memorial day, it's a great day.
It's a federal holiday in the United States.
Remembering honoring people who die while serving the United States Armed Forces.
I think it's a great holiday given what's going on with the press, because he sucks and
definitely did not do anything in terms of public service or service in the United States.
Yeah, happy Memorial Day weekend, bone spurs.
He's like literally the thing with him is he's like,
I'm gonna pardon a guy who, what was the thing I saw?
He's pardoning some war criminals, some like army,
like people who were like put in jail by the army,
by the military for doing like heinous shit,
like they were in Iraq and they were like sniping children
from like a, from like a bell tower or something.
Like completely outrageous, they went off the deep end
and he's like, we should pardon them.
It's like the America at its greatest.
That's the wrong message.
It is like for soldiers everywhere,
I think that's the, I think most soldiers would be like,
that's not what we actually want.
Like we're not trying to like,
it's not like there's a blanket like all soldiers
are just fucking great.
I'm sure soldiers are like, there's some shitty ass soldiers.
Anyhow, let's get on to it.
Let's talk about the real stuff, okay?
Okay.
Let's talk about this Nancy Pelosi deep fake.
No, no, no, no, no.
This is the proof, sorry.
What?
Deep fake implies that it was done with any skill or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
People, it's the first thing you need to.
You need a VHS set. No, this, yeah, yeah. Yeah, people are like, it's the first thing that you need to. You need a VHS set.
No, this is like,
this is like when people are like,
hover, sorry, talking about hoverboards.
And it's like,
it's like a fucking horizontal skateboard,
like or whatever it is,
or it's like you can like,
it's like a segue with no handlebars.
Like that's not,
like if we're gonna call things hoverboard,
then you do actually do the thing
that we're talking about, which is hover, right?
But entire generation of kids that have never seen back
to the future too, that that's what a hoverboard is.
It's so fucking annoying.
But okay, so this Nancy Pelosi video,
it's like, by the way,
a perfect intersection for this podcast.
It's like political, I'm politically outraged
and also technology.
But it is a video of Nancy Pelosi talking that has been slowed down. That's
it. It's not a deep fake. They didn't. They sound fucking hacked. It's not like they.
It's like manipulate people are like manipulated. It's like, yeah, they put it on. They played
it on like 1.5. Yeah, they're like, we're there's a 0.5 like speed or 0.75 speed or whatever. But the funny thing is like this video is identical
to a classic old school internet meme,
which is Drunk Jeff Goldblum,
which is a Jeff Goldblum ad for Apple.
I think it's from like 1997 or 1999 or something.
And somebody took it and they slowed it down a little bit
and he sounds completely wasted
because Jeff Goldblum sounds weird when he talks anyhow.
And this is the same thing about Nancy Pelosi.
You could take any video of Nancy Pelosi.
She's a, her voice, if you slow it down,
is gonna sound, she's gonna sound fucked up.
Yeah, well, I mean, she also has like weird,
political cadence, which is like,
we as a society need to, and then you throw it in the town,
and it's like, we as a society need to be slow down.
Yeah, but fucking slow down Trump.
I mean, Trump does, you need to be slow down.
I mean, the funny thing about Trump is like,
he sounds completely like off his meds
and fucking wasted all the time
when he's giving normal speeches
is literally just happened yesterday.
And people are like, well, I'll show him,
you'll a little Trump be Trump.
But it's like, yeah, no, this guy's on fucking drugs.
And probably.
I'm probably so funny to see him make fun
of someone else's speaking
because like, he's never given one good speech. He can't even finish his sentence. I've never heard Trump actually finish his
sentence. No, they all run on. His state of the union was like, and many people are saying.
He'd like interrupt himself. It's like he's debating himself. Yeah. He's like, you know, they say
that we've done the greatest, well, you know, some people say it. You know, it's actually, you know,
the people have been saying, the government is better than ever.
It's like, what's the point here?
What are you talking about?
Anyhow, this is all bunch of bullshit.
And honestly, if anybody watches this video
and is like, oh, Nancy,
but first of all, so whatever,
who cares of Nancy Pelosi's drunk?
I mean, honestly, let Nancy Pelosi get drunk.
She needs a fucking drink after what she's going through.
Also, I'm sorry, we have the most incompetent,
the most incompetent, most deranged person running the country.
There's the idea that a drunk Nancy Pelosi
somehow is an inflection point that some would have Democrats are gonna be like, oh my god, what's going on with our party?
It's like there is no person who watches the drunk Nancy Pelosi video
Who is gonna be like I was thinking about voting against Trump and now that I've seen drunk Nancy Pelosi
It's changed my whole attitude
Well, it's it's it's it's playing off of their Hillary playbook, which was like, Hillary tripped one time.
She has like mesothelioma and leukemia.
I think at the base of it, all the important thing that we remember is that this is just
rampant, unbridled sexism.
Yeah.
And the most important thing to know is that women shouldn't have power.
Yeah.
The idea of the warriens, the idea of a woman being in power is so frightening to all Republicans, men and women,
which is fucking insane, that they have to like invent diseases for them, basically, you know.
Okay, anyhow, let's get into this.
I mean, there's nothing to say except everybody stupid and the world is dead as soon as humanly
possible.
But if that doesn't happen,
we gotta talk about some other stuff.
All right, so let's talk about the play date.
Oh, the play date.
Yeah, this is interesting.
So the company has a...
I have it.
So, okay, let's talk about this for a second.
There's a company called Panic.
They make, they're, okay, Panic's history,
my memory is that Panic's history was
they made like, icon sets, so you could like theme your Mac and then they started making like they
made like an FTP client and then they made like, what are the Coda which is like
a web editor, you know, then they made transmit which is a file transfer thing.
They made all these like weird apps, then they made sort of making games and
they made Firewatch,
which is a great game.
And they're making a game called Untitled Goose Game.
Here's the description.
It's a lovely morning in the village and you are a horrible goose.
So it looks so good.
I'm sorry, the trailer for that game is incredible.
It's like a goose.
It's like a goose is harassing people, I guess.
Yeah.
You're the goose that you just ruined everything. So then the, yesterday, Thursday of this week,
they introduced this handheld game system,
which is called the Playdate,
which looks like a Game Boy,
and but like a yellow squash Game Boy,
but it has a crank on the side,
it has a thing you pull out and you crank,
which I have to say, I'm not interested in it all.
And I think it's just a...
Really?
I don't...
I actually really like the idea because if you think about input systems in games, like
you need, for example, you need two sticks to control an F, a first person shooter because
you need to control those axes.
But so many of those like Game Boy style, like Pocket 2D games go forward or back,
they don't have anything else there.
So a crank as an input method kind of makes sense.
I don't know.
I'm just like, it just feels to me like,
how are you gonna do anything else if you're cranking?
And you know, it's fine, whatever.
I think it'll be interesting.
I like the idea of a new, I mean, I can imagine.
Well, so we could say, they're selling this for 149
and you get the device and then there's a season of games
so that every week for 12 weeks,
you get a new game by a known developer,
but it's a surprise.
Yeah, I mean, I think, I think,
it's, look, it sounds like a cool idea,
it's a different idea, it's new, it's weird, it's exciting, it's like, you know, I think there's an, I think it's, look, it sounds like a cool idea. It's a different idea. It's new.
It's weird.
It's exciting.
It's like, you know, I think there's an, I think there's, I'm happy.
Like, maybe the crank is awesome.
I will say, like, certainly there's games.
I play, like, you play games all the time, you're like, you need to like, hit a button
really fast or whatever and like, it could be cool where like, instead of doing that,
you're doing, you know, you're cranking this thing.
It is, it's a black and white screen from what I understand, right?
It's like, it is,
you know, I don't know what the internals are like,
but it's fucking cool looking.
And listen, I'm a sucker for any weird little
like single-year.
I want stuff to single-year.
I want more like original games,
and obviously I love how it's like gaming,
so I'm gonna buy this immediately.
Yeah, this is like the, also they designed it with um teenage engineering which is like
my favorite one of my favorite tech companies of like the past fucking 50 years I mean teenage
engineering is an awesome company they designed the crank with them apparently um or they design
the whole thing with them which is not surprising because it looks like something that comes from the teenage engineering folks,
who are geniuses when it comes to industrial design,
in my opinion, truly on the cutting edge in a way
that like Apple and Google and other people
couldn't even fucking hope to be.
Anyhow, so it's very cool, I like it.
I'll definitely buy one.
There's no pre-order yet, right?
You can just like get notified.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I guess it's gonna be There's no preorder yet, right? You can just like get notified.
Yeah.
And I guess it's gonna be on the cover of Edge Magazine,
which still exists and is published,
like in print, apparently.
I don't know.
So it's cool, I'm into it.
I love all weird, it's like the,
this is the Blackberry Passport of handheld game systems.
It literally has the same kind of form factor.
It's like wide. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I, I, this also makes me again,
want to buy the passport, which is,
is it still sitting in my cart?
Let me check it out.
I, I'm really excited about it,
just because I really enjoy handheld stuff,
but also like I love the idea of like the problem,
I think with video games recently
has been like you can do anything,
you could make anything,
and so developers make either everything,
or like they shoot in one direction
that hasn't been refined yet.
And I really like the idea of putting limits
on people's creativity.
Like I think you get your most creative
with hard limitations.
And something with like a black and white screen
and no multiplayer and like no,
you're not gonna be watching like videos on it.
Kind of tickles my brain in a way
and like the crank is like a fun variable to throw in
for them to be creative with.
And I don't know, like something about it,
like I really love the philosophy behind it,
because you don't need more than those things
to make something really fun.
So if you're a great developer,
and you can make a great game for this,
you wouldn't need like triple A special effects,
and like voice acting, and all these like, you know,
cut scenes that sell the game.
I don't know, it really like comes,
it gets to the idea of what I really like about gaming
and creativity and I don't know, I'm gonna buy it.
What, if all the game suck, I will have eaten 150 bucks.
What do you think all the games are gonna suck?
I mean, is there any reason why?
No, I don't know, I assume they won't,
but you know, they could also be super short side projects
for one person at that, you know, they could also be super short side projects for one person at that,
you know, publisher or whatever. So, right. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I mean, I'm, I'm
cautiously interested, cautiously optimistic. I'm gonna buy it. I will, I will say.
So, okay, what else is going on? So, that's there's that. We're doing it. We're both buying it. Yeah. That's a fact. Game of Thrones
ended and West season three trailer dropped. It was in moments of each other. Let's talk about this
for a second. Let's get real. Game of thrones. I'm sorry. Game of like lost its own plot. Game of thrones.
I thought the final episode was great. They were like a first off, I mean, look, I think the plot
was thrown out this season.
I mean, they were just like, we just got to wrap this up,
whatever it takes, we got to get to the Star Wars project.
They're like, let's just get out of here.
How do we get out of this fucking thing?
No, really, I mean, that's what it felt like.
They're like, let's just get some characters.
I know, but they're like, it was great.
No, but the final episode was great.
Here's why.
Everybody was like, who's gonna, John's gonna die,
Danny's gonna die, Ari is gonna die.
And it's like, like within the first half an hour,
they had killed off, by the way, spoilers, okay?
If you're listening to this and you haven't seen it,
just please watch the episode and then come back
to the podcast.
You know, John Snow kills Daenerys,
like within 30 minutes of the first of the final episode.
It's like, that's it. He kills her. Then you're like, oh shit, it's going to go down.
And then they're like, fade to black. And it's like, they don't tell you, but it's like several
weeks later, or several months later. It's unclear, really. And they're like doing some like bureaucratic
stuff where they're like, well, we don't have a king, we don't have a queen, everybody's mad at what should we do.
And they've got a quorum of people who,
many of them are totally insignificant characters
that we haven't seen for several seasons,
or at all.
And they're like, what should we do about not having a king?
And they go through a few minutes of bureaucracy
and then Tyrion has a plan and then like they wrap it up
in an extremely weird like way where everybody kind of gets what they want.
Oh, also they named Bran King.
Which is like, I thought Bran was like going to go on a fucking vision quest.
I thought he was at Amazon Alexa.
I thought he was Wikipedia.
He's like, I don't want anymore.
And then they're like, but do you want to be king?
And he's like, well, that's what I came here for.
He's like, he's like, he's like, he brand of the whole show
has been like, increasingly like, he's like, okay,
he's like Dr. Manhattan in Watchmen.
He's like, I'm no longer a part of your world.
Your human problems don't seem interesting to me.
I'm like on another fucking level.
I'm like the history of all humanity and this world,
and I have to protect it now, I'm a raven or whatever.
And then at the end of like, would you,
do we be king?
And he's like, that sounds good.
It's like, I don't know if we're gonna,
even the killing of Danny, because Tyrion's like,
you have to kill her.
You would be the best royal.
You should lead us.
John, you're amazing.
Like if you can take her out,
you could lead us into an amazing future.
And then he's like, okay,
and he killed her and they're like, you killed her?
No, I mean, I think to the night guard or whatever.
That would night guard.
I mean, what's weird is that grayworm,
like grayworms, like just fucking straight up
assassinating people in the streets,
but like when after a denarius gets killed,
you think he would,
you think John would have been immediately killed.
Yeah.
But that's my feeling is like he's going to be immediately killed.
And yet he's not immediately killed.
He is like, I don't know, they put him in prison basically.
So I don't know, it's very strange experience. It was a very strange experience. It was a very strange experience.
It was a very strange experience.
It was a very strange experience.
It was a very strange experience.
It was a very strange experience.
It was a very strange experience.
It was a very strange experience.
It was a very strange experience.
It was a very strange experience.
It was a very strange experience.
It was a very strange experience. It was like, it just did something super weird.
And that's what I thought we'd say,
and in fact, we'd explode it.
Yeah.
They didn't actually, they didn't say, or a tag,
they were like, we're actually, I don't know what the,
I don't know what that would be, but they didn't do it.
I mean, they did something else.
It would be electing Wikipedia.
Yeah.
All right, but did you watch the Westworld trailer? Yeah. Okay. So let's just talk about the West World trailer. So first
off, they're doing a full on leftovers from I can tell they're doing a leftovers thing
with the West world with Westworld, which is like they're like, wow, the shit's kind of
like not working. Season one was pretty interesting, but people got disappointed with it.
Then season two was a cluster fuck fuck and now we need to kind of
take a different approach for season three. So Aaron Paul is now like in the show
seems like he has a pretty major role. All I can tell you is this the trailer for
the new season of Westworld features the song Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd. And I don't think it's an accident. I'm honest with you. I don't think
it's an accident. And I don't think they're just doing it because they listen to our podcast.
I think they're winking at us and they're saying yes, they're on the moon. They're on the moon.
No, I watched the trailer. Wow. Okay. You're not even gonna engage with me on that.
You're not on the moon.
I watched a trailer.
What do you mean?
Why do you think they're not on the moon?
Because we've already seen that they're like,
we've seen continents and that they're on Earth.
What do you actually, is that name that's on dark side of the moon?
What is the name of the song?
That's the name of the record.
All right, well, I watched it not knowing what it was
because I watched it on HBO, like,
right before Game of Thrones aired. So what do you mean? Yeah, I didn't see that because I watched it not knowing what it was because I watched it on HBO, like, right before Game of Thrones aired.
So what's the reason I didn't see that?
Because I watched it at this show on demand.
So I was like, whoa, like, uh, it wasn't like a YouTube clip where it's like labeled or
that I knew what it was.
So what I was watching it, I was like, I would watch this show.
This show looks good.
What is this show?
And then it was revealed to me West Room season three.
So it's truly, I think, gonna try to start completely over
and like be a good show as opposed to like what it was.
But I don't know that that's gonna like sway
the game of Throne's audience back to HBO or whatever.
Yeah, so the song is actually called Brain Damage.
Okay.
By the way, which is interesting,
given the context of the the of what's going on
on the show. Not on the moon. They have brain. Well, I think they have brain damage and they're
on the on the moon. I mean, I don't know. It looks I'll say this like I'm ready for
a Westworld to do a hard pivot to something that I am not annoyed by every week. If they
can do it, I'd be surprised. But then again, it happened with the leftovers.
The leftovers was like absolutely unwatt,
well, it was like hate watchable in season one.
And then season two and three were like
some of the finest television ever created.
So if they can do that, I'd be very interested
and excited to check it out.
But I don't know.
Did you watch the new episode of the Handmaid's Tale?
I don't watch the Handmaid's Tale.
I stopped watching after season one.
I'm making a joke about how we looked at the window
and there's the Handmaid jumper.
Oh, yeah, yeah, this is good.
Now, there was a great, something had a tweet.
They were like, I thought that somebody was,
first of all, we're living in a fucking hell world
where like abortion rights are being completely taken away
from women all over the country. And the, you know, freedom to choose what happens with
their body is being taken away from them, which is literally literally the plot of the
hammock. Yeah, if the bill has not heard everyone hates women.
Yeah, apparently America is not a safe place for women. But the, somebody did a tweet and I saw a woman dressed
in a hand-made-stale costume
who was about to jump off a building.
And so I called the police and it's like,
he has like, there's like a shot of like really far away
and you're like, oh yeah, there's totally like a woman dress
in a hand-made-stale outfit about to like commit suicide,
which is like, I think to commit suicide, which is,
like, I think given everything that's going on,
like it all makes sense.
Like, yes, that's right, that would happen now.
Anyhow, they sent the police and the police went up
and it's like, an umbrella,
it's like a patio umbrella with a white cap,
a red patio umbrella with a white cap.
It looks exactly like the head, but it's still outfit.
And then Jack, our designer was like,
that's in the fucking building right next to,
we have two offices, but the bussel office,
where we're spending a lot of time,
that fucking thing is literally right next to it.
It's like, you can almost reach out and touch it,
it's so close.
This is really interesting, because you know what I'm saying? It's like a meme and it's like, wow. It's like, you can almost reach out and touch it. It's so close. This is really interesting,
because you know what I'm saying?
It's like a meme and it's like, wow,
it's like, you know, it's like alien to you
because it's like a thing that you can't,
it's not in your actual world.
It's just something you're seeing in this like third party
kind of way.
And it was a, there's a right next to us.
So I take a picture of it.
I take a picture of it and I tweeted it
and it's actually got several hundred likes. Um, which is there?
No, actually, that's not true.
And in fact, I think Twitter is like kind of over.
I mean, anything, if anything, I think Twitter is like no one's using it and people are
like, I know the Trump complaint to Jack Dorsey that he was like losing followers.
I think everybody's losing followers on Twitter.
Certainly the Cras and Stains.
The Kraz and Stains are out.
They're fucking done.
It's dark.
Yeah, I mean, no, I don't know.
I use Twitter way less now.
I'm just like way less on Twitter.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just for shit posting at this point.
Wow, listen to this, hold on. This is breaking news.
Is this just happened? Gerald Nadler, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee,
had just given a martyred event when he slumped his chair and was taken to a hospital for evaluation.
Well, it's literally just hit. Speaking of Twitter, it just hit my feed.
Scary stuff. Maybe it's just a patio umbrella.
Maybe it's just a patio umbrella. It's actually wasn't.
It wasn't Jerry Nadler was an umbrella.
It looked like him.
It's okay.
So we should start about the OnePlus 7 Pro a little bit, which was released last week.
Released to Josh's pocket.
Yeah.
So let me tell you something. So ironically, like a day or two after I got the phone
and started setting it up, my pixel broke.
I can't tell this is a, I mean, honestly what happened
is that speaking of patio umbrellas,
a patio, we have a patio umbrella here
that we just guys our first one ever.
And we were, we have a glass table,
which it is in the center of.
And we were using it and there was a strong wind.
And my phone was on it in the middle of this strong gust
of wind, the entire table started the umbrella
and the entire table started blowing over.
And everything went off the table.
Yeah, everything went off the table.
Laura caught the table, the actual table with her feet, held it with her feet, and
we managed to get it upright.
I was kind of forced to switch phones because honestly getting the screen fix on the pixel
is like $280 or something, and I was like, I don't know, man, I mean, is it worth it?
I got this new phone, I might as well check it out.
Here's the deal.
The OnePlus 7 Pro is a really fucking good phone.
It has some things that are annoying to me
because I'm so used to the Pixel.
I'm so used to the things that the Pixel gives you
that are like special things.
Like the Pixel has call screening.
So like when I get a fucking weird ass bam call,
the Pixel will literally like talk to the person,
which is amazing.
Like I miss having that feature.
It has like this ambient thing that like listens for music and will tell you what's
playing at all times.
I miss that feature.
It has weather on the lock screen, which for some reason the OnePlus doesn't have, I
miss that.
These are like small things, but they're things that I miss.
The camera and the camera software on the OnePlus, actually let me separate those out.
The camera on the OnePlus seems to be excellent.
The camera software is mediocre. I have a now like pretty much fully working cracked version
of Google camera that I installed that I side loaded. And I have to tell you the results
that it produces after I've like, fuck with it a little bit. The results it produces
are really excellent. In some cases, better than the Pixel. And I wonder, like basically, I mean, here's the reality.
It seems to be almost entirely a software issue, right?
The Pixel camera is good because it is really good software.
And I think any camera can be as good as that, or not any camera, but a lot of these modern
cameras can be as good as that if they have the software. And so like, it's an interesting thing where it's like you really kind of get into,
my head is now like, well, if Google were to open source whatever they're doing with cameras,
it would be a game changer for photography, you know, because it's really special. And you can see it on like a
one-to-one basis. You can see like the detail levels and like the focus and the
color and everything is like so dramatically different between the two camera
apps. It's really insane. So like long show, one other thing. The screen is
fucking amazing. The fact that there's no notch and it is like, it's like feeling like somebody was like
choking me and now they've like let off their grip, you know, and I can breathe again.
Like honestly, I no longer look down at the phone and feel annoyed every time I'm looking
at it.
I will say I think the motorized front facing camera makes total sense and is totally
fine and like is actually a good solution for a thing that I rarely use.
And so I feel like, yeah, I don't know.
It's very good, especially at the price point.
Yeah.
And yeah, that's my ramble about the OnePlus 7 Pro.
Yeah, when you pulled it out the other day,
I was like, what, can I touch?
And I had been at the event, so I'd seen it,
but it really is striking in person.
Yeah, it's a very cool phone.
I mean, it's extremely slippery.
It definitely is like, you know,
we'll definitely smash if I don't have a huge case on it.
They ship it with a plastic case,
which I find to be disgusting.
It's like one of those like rubbery TPU cases.
But for the time being, I'll deal with it.
Overall, it's great, it's fine.
And I think that like at that price point,
it definitely blows away the competition.
And by the way, the actual camera that's on it,
it also has a 3X optical zoom and a wide angle lens.
It's a three lens camera system.
You can do some actually really cool shit with it.
So even using their built-in app,
there's some interesting things that you're able to do
that I think are kind of like
create different types of photography that you cannot do with another phone. And so I'm sort of like,
I'm not totally hating on there on their camera software when coupled with the hardware. I just
think the Google, if you could like mash those two things together, it would be a fucking amazing
camera. Yeah, Google is doing something with like AI or machine learning on their photos that it's just spectacular
Yeah, it's really it's really impressive
and and like honestly like should not be
discounted as a as like an innovation that they have
they have sort of
Capitalized on or provided or I don't know.
Anyhow, so that's that.
Anyway, let's see.
What else is going on?
Not what happened this week.
It's very Memorial Day week style.
Really?
Julian Assange was charged with conspiracy or the
thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not great.
I mean, Julian Assange sucks. And I don't want him to be happy. He should be charged with
whatever he he's actually done. Exactly. He's definitely done something. I mean, it may not have
anything to do with like state secrets. I mean, Julie's on sucks. Like, I don't want him to go to
jail for the wrong things. Especially when it is when journalism because it's a it's an issue of like like if you reveal secrets now
It's an espionage issue because I pretty sure
This is to me is like when we've I remember we've who's like a
Trojus neo-nazi
Was like arrested and put in jail for like basically like kind basically a thing that wasn't really a miss.
The law sort of misunderstanding what an actual computer crime is.
But then it's like, well, this guy sucks and I do think he deserves to go to jail.
Because he's a piece of shit.
It's like you got to balance out your feelings about somebody's, you know, what they're putting
into the world and what kind of bad shit
that they're doing versus like the actual letter of the law.
I don't know.
I mean, you shouldn't lock people up for no reason,
you know, no matter what.
No matter what.
I mean, we live in very dark times.
I mean, I'm so not concerned with Julian Assange.
Yes, I agree.
There are press freedom questions, but like we have tons,
I mean, there's so much insane stuff going on with the press right now. There's so much
weirdness happening with the way this government treats the press. I mean, it is, you know,
it's like Nazi era shit, like where you've got like, you know, the press is essentially labeled,
I mean, it's been literally labeled an enemy of the state by the president of the United States.
It's in the like Nash, more like propaganda apparatus that is fucks me.
The one one one America news network or something like, no, I don't know.
I mean, it's fucked up though.
Like, yeah, we've never had a situation like this in America.
Never, never to this degree.
So Julian Assange, I'm concerned about,
but I'm more concerned about like the stuff
that is so much more cut and dry.
You know, how do you feel about candidates,
like democratic candidates going on Fox News for town halls
and stuff?
Because that was a big topic of discussion
in the sweet grave.
Everyone was like screaming either at Pete Buttigieg
for going on Fox News or screaming about how he didieg for going on Fox News or screaming about how
he did a great job on Fox News or screaming about the people screaming about Pete Buttigieg
on Fox News.
I didn't, so I didn't see his, I didn't see his town hall.
I have no idea how it went.
I mean, if you're going to go on Fox News, it was a good way to go on because he did call
out the network for being a propaganda apparatus with reactionary hosts that do dangerous things, but at the same time he addressed the fact that many people watch it and good faith. And he doesn't he was like, I don't resent anyone, you know, trying to get information or whatever bullshit, like people to judge middle road stuff.
But I think it was effective. It's just like if you really think that's true, why are you making the money by appearing
on there now?
I think Elizabeth Warren made a really good argument about this.
I think Fox is an absolutely despicable and diabolical company that has actually ruined
America.
I mean, I think that Fox News is like, they're essentially war criminals like the people
who run Fox News and should
be put in fucking jail.
I think that they are responsible for some of the most.
I mean, just the sheer amount of slander and libel is insane.
The amount of destructive misinformation, disinformation and lying that goes on on Fox
News is like, feels like it should be punishable by law,
talking about press freedom.
I mean, there should be ramifications for people
who are out and out fucking liars.
They're offensive, they're misogynists,
they're wildly sexist, the entire channel is designed
to hate women and to objectify women.
The content of Fox News is unreliable,
almost like universally.
And the people who are on Fox News
are a reprehensible fucking right wing
shills who are puppets of the alt-right, the right wing,
and a Republican government that is completely corrupt.
So yeah, I agree that like why are we why are we letting them
have, you know, why are we giving them an opportunity to make money off of like Pete Buttigieg
going on there and doing a town hall? The idea, I think the idea that you can convince the people
who watch Fox News to vote for someone other than Trump or some whoever the Republican candidate is
Trump or whoever the Republican candidate is, is or whoever Fox News decides is the candidate, is a totally misleading concept and without any proof in reality.
And so, so I'm glad the Bernie and Pete and whoever else want to go on there and they think
they can like change some hearts and minds and maybe it was an amazing moment where we could say,
wow, look, Bernie talked about socialized healthcare
and all the Fox News people, like, you know,
cheered, all the people in the audience for Fox News,
cheered, but like, that's not the representative of the...
And we go with Fox and friends and they're like,
those were all plants.
We didn't have any control over the audience
and they, you know, Bernie...
That's right, that's right.
The house.
And then they just, right now, the conversation. The conversation. Right, Fox know, that's right. That's right. That's the house. And then they just, right, Fox News, they, right, Fox News, they hosted it.
They, they carried it.
They put, you know, they put their talent on it.
But ultimately, like, you know, it's, it's, it is in their best interest to, to find
a ways to, I mean, if there's a moment where Bernie like breaks through, like, cool,
it's not going to change the Fox News viewers viewership's mind. It just isn't. And I think it's a really naive and silly concept to think that I mean one of the big
problems with Democrats is they're like, you know, we gotta open the doors and open our arms and
welcome you know whoever and it's like there are people who fucking hate you. They hate your way of
life. They hate who you are as a person.
They hate what you believe in.
Yeah, they're like, we are tend to so big.
We made a space for Nazis.
Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, you know, and that's how you get
into these conversations with, you know,
where you've got Democrats who are like,
well, you know, pro life is a choice
and we have to let people in as I blah, blah.
It's like, no, dude, the fucking Democrats platform
is pro choice.
And it can't be both things.
And I don't want to fucking water down
the progressive, the agenda of progressivism.
And it's true its form.
I don't mean like, progressivism, like,
with quotes around it, like that's Joe Biden.
I mean like, the Democratic party has been responsible
for the most progressive policy in this country
in the last 100 years.
And that's unassailable.
There's no other party that's pushed it in the way that the Democratic Party has.
You can say what you want about independence and socialists and all this shit, but like
the reality is the Democratic Party is the party of progressive thought and progressive
change. And so like, so you know, the idea that you're going to go on Fox and somehow change
hearts and minds is just bullshit. And so I'm with Warren on this. It's like, don't give
them, don't give them, don't give them money, don't give them ammunition, don't give them
the satisfaction that they're being considered a real news source. What should happen is we
should shun, I mean, Fox news should be shunned and made, you
know, put in a corner and we should point to them and say, this is actually what fake
news looks like.
This is what bullshit looks like.
This is what misinformation, disinformation, and lying looks like.
And we won't tolerate it.
And nobody, I mean, nobody but Elizabeth Warren has stood up and said that.
Well, Elizabeth Warren.
And that month's charged for legal services.
So if you trust the Washington Post,
it makes your treaters fucking...
What is his, sorry, yeah, what is his story?
I haven't followed it at all,
but is the story that Elizabeth Warren
charged people for legal services?
So Elizabeth Warren posted on her website,
which is filled with all the information in the whole world
because it's like, she's got a plan
for every single facet of America.
It's this impenetrable death star of policy.
But she posted on her website, like the court case that she was involved with as a private lawyer.
And so the Washington Post's big scoop was that she charged like $700
in billable hour, like per hour for billable hours when she was a professor at Harvard.
And they were like, you know, they provided no context around that, which is like they didn't provide with the
going rate for a legal Harvard scholars legal professional work goes for. And they didn't provide like,
there's no counterbalance to the information. They basically just like wrote up a piece,
which was like, look how much money she made. And it's so weird because she's running against like a fake billionaire who
provides nothing and, you know, charges absurd amounts to appear on the
apprentice or whatever.
But they basically the crux of the piece was that like, you know,
she charged a lot of money for her legal services.
And now she wants to be a progressive socialist.
And it's like, those, oh, so you think there's problems in society and yet you participate
in society kind of like that was the table. And it's so fucking annoying and lazy. And
like, I just feel like we have such bigger fish to fry. It's like you were saying about
the Julian Assange thing. It's like, yeah, I guess no lawyer should make $700 an hour, but like
That's not the problem with America. I mean, that's not even that's not even the most I mean give me a fucking break
I mean that's like are we I mean do we think there's a problem with legal fees?
That's just the tip of the iceberg. Yeah, the fact that you need a private lawyer
I mean that the fact that you need a war chest of money to go to a court case period
is the problem.
I mean, I'm just saying like,
are we upset that she charged that much money?
Because like, that is not even that expensive for lawyers.
I mean, I've paid lawyers far more than that per hour.
I'm not bragging, it's insane.
Yeah, I gave the lawyers five hundred dollars
for a retainer fee at one point.
It's like, it's not.
No, I mean, like to do, like to do,
like when you have lawyers doing like large business deals,
the, like the, the billing's insane.
I'm just saying, like, there's nothing wrong
with the fact that she's charged them much,
like that is relatively normal for, I mean, a really good lawyer.
It's just funny too because they just did an episode of the good fight about this last week.
Really?
It's all about like, lawyers charge too much, just like the crux of the finale.
Yeah, I mean, it's an amazing industry because what they've done is they've created like
Something that's so arcane and complex. I mean, you really do need to know your shit to understand it
But it is also like the entire thing is sort of I mean the entire concept is like we've created this arcane language
That no one else can understand that has all these weird loopholes and like gotchas and catch 22s and bullshit and like now
We all deal in this thing.
Like there are easier ways.
Certainly they are more straightforward ways
to deal with things.
But like it's like now we all deal with those things.
And only us, only we can deal with them.
And therefore like you're gonna need to pay us
a lot of money to like solve your problem.
So like, like oh you wanna buy this thing?
Like okay, well here's this insane documentation
we made around buying it.
And now only another one of us can figure out how to make...
Yeah, we built you a puzzle,
and you'll need a puzzle builder to solve it.
So...
Yeah, yeah, you need, like, or it's like, yeah, a puzzle solver.
It's like, yeah, no, it's a scam,
but it's a really good scam.
And like, we all should have definitely gone into being one.
It's just sort of an insane mode of attack.
Like, is it just to get us to talk about her or like,
it's just weird and like, especially from a journalistic
perspective, like the Washington Post has been doing a fairly
amazing job and the piece itself like doesn't provide
any context and then Mackey Habermann's like malthing off
on Twitter like, you know, lots of facts about candidates
will be reported over the course of an election. And it's like,outhing off on Twitter like, you know, lots of facts about candidates will be reported
over the course of an election.
And it's like, no, but you wrote up an entire piece
about this one number to like scare people.
It's just odd to me.
The whole thing is super weird.
I would love to know how that piece like came together.
I bet a lot of men were involved.
Mm-hmm.
That's my guess.
A lot of men.
Anyway, Elizabeth Warren has her period for money.
Wow.
No, Elizabeth Warren is like, I mean, honestly, I'm sorry.
I mean, she is so qualified to be president and is getting so unfairly shit on by people.
It's insane.
Yeah, it's just, I can't believe we learned to nothing from 2016.
I can't believe we learned to nothing from 2016. I can't believe we're still doing everything.
Like, well, I mean, it's never been clear that,
like this, I mean, what I would say is like,
you know, people talk about America being a racist country,
but like, I've never seen more evidence in the last,
you know, a couple of years that America is like,
the one of the most sexist, like sexist countries,
like we are so anti-woman in this country.
We are so scared of women, we are so angry about women, we will do anything to take rights
away from them, we will do anything to keep them out of power.
It is like we have a president who is a fucking absolutely like on record sexual fucking
harasser and sexual assalter who has been accused by like dozens of women who
was paid off women to keep quiet about him having sex with them.
Who was like an odious person when it comes to the treatment of women who was accused by
his ex-wife of raping her, a very bad man.
He's the fucking president.
And then it's like the policies that stem,
that extend from this presidency,
the people he's put into the Supreme Court,
it is all like violently anti-woman,
violently anti-women's rights.
And like what happened to Hillary,
say what you will about Hillary,
definitely a huge component of it was fucking sexism
and anti-woman hate.
And that same shit is is very prevalent right now,
very prevalent on the opening strains
of the 2020 campaign,
that the women who are running are,
you know, almost universally,
like, shit on in a way that the men are not.
And it's like,
it sounds like some really bad stuff about this country
and about the people who run it.
And like, it's like, I think going back
to this Nancy Pelosi thing, it's a great example.
You have a president who like,
literally seems drunk all the time.
And somehow Nancy Pelosi's deep fake tape
is actually getting play, you know?
It's because we wanna believe this about women.
We wanna believe this are like, incompetent.
It's an easier thing for regular people to digest that like oh we look it's another
stupid old lady and she's like droning on fuck her that bitch. It's much more digestible than like
what's going on with the you know Chinese tariffs. It's not right. It's like oh it's like it's a
deranged schoolmarm you know or whatever like the whole fucking thing is like such a
This is like, it's a deranged schoolmarm, you know, or whatever. The whole fucking thing is like such a, remember your accent.
It's a wife?
What a chi with a port.
Yeah, it's important.
Yeah, it's exactly.
It's such an odious and retrograde view of like women.
It's insane.
It's actually insane.
And like I will say, I think, you know, I think we need to look at the actual underlying stuff here,
instead of, we're talking about really surface things.
Is this tape real?
But we need to be talking about why are we talking about the tape at all.
I feel like this is, look, this week was, there's a lot of stuff that happened, but not
that much stuff that happened.
Oh, one other thing, Theresa May is stepping down
in the UK.
So UK is a complete shit show.
Oh, we need to talk about this Harry Tub and thing,
which I think is, you know, I can't even get into.
I mean, we can talk about it, whatever.
They're like, they're post-pony.
We just talk about the Harry Tub and thing.
They're post-pony.
They're gonna put Harry Tub in on the $20 bill.
This is something that Obama signed into law.
It was gonna happen in 2020.
And now the Treasury Secretary, Steven
Minuchin, who is a complete scumbag, has pushed it off till 2026. And apparently the inside
gossip is that like he wanted to, and maybe this is like good on him in some way. He wanted
to push it off till after Trump was definitely not in office because he thought that Trump
would have like a complete meltdown over it.
Which is just why are we babysitting the most powerful person in the world?
Why are we like tiptoeing around his feelings like I can't take this anymore?
Yeah, no, he's like and he'll get upset and he'll try to stay up late and he'll like shit himself in his diaper. It's like, who can he? He's a toddler.
They're like, they're like, he described tubbing is fantastic.
It's like, you can't really print that.
Like you can't print that Donald Trump said
somebody is fantastic.
Cause it's like, he says things that have no meaning.
That's a thing that has no meaning.
That doesn't mean anything like.
He loves the purlite.
Pauline Hill call.
I mean, Pauline Harriet,
Pauline Harriet Tubman fantastic is like a non that's a non content.
There's no content.
Everybody's got Frederick Douglass who's being recognized by more and more people.
Yeah, more and more people.
You know, but but also his favorite president is Andrew Jackson who's a fucking slave owner.
Um, and you know, that's who's on the $20 bill house.
So it's like very fitting.
Very fitting. It's it's on the $20 bill now. So it's like very fitting, very fitting.
It's just crazy.
The white supremacy that flows from Donald Trump's
like whole, you know, the atmosphere of his entire existence
is so blatant and obvious and like rancid.
And like anybody who supports him who's not like,
yeah, he's, you know, he's definitely a racist.
Is so, so lying to themselves, it's insane.
I just can't believe we're putting off
changes to the most significant government document
because he'll get upset about the design.
So the world is so fucked.
It truly is a hell world.
So we should definitely do nice things now.
Yeah, let's talk about nice things then.
Speaking of hell world, I've been watching Chernobyl on HBO
and it's horrifying.
I have like two things that I'm really, really scared of
in the world, like two things that really like will
devastate and upset me, like I can't watch them on TV. One of which is parasites.
I don't like parasites. The whole idea of it freaks me out a lot. It really
upsets me. And the other is radiation because there's like no way to control
it or like no if you've been radiated I guess or whatever. Like if you've been
irradiated there's no way to know. And something about that really freaks me out the idea of like my body dying while I'm
in it.
It slowly is just horrifying.
I also grew up in a town when I was a child with a nuclear power plant, so that might
be part of it.
So I've been watching Turnoble, and, you know, I watched it.
I was like super baked, and I was like, oh, this whole thing is
a metaphor for Trump.
And I don't know, it's really good.
It's really horrifying.
I definitely have to watch between my fingers most of the time.
And it's a little weird because like everybody has a British accent because it was like
co-produced with sky or something. So you're like all these Russian people have a British accent because it was like co-produced with sky or something. So you're like all these
Russian people have a British accent but it also makes it more... I guess there's like a xenophobic
part of everybody's brain where once something is related to like an aesthetic or an accent, you sort
of like once like that place is described in your head as being something. It's hard to like break out and see it for like a universal human experience.
So like whenever we've grown up with like Russian accents,
meaning bad guys and like spies and evil like in our media,
like every time like Boris and like Natasha or whatever pop up or even on the
Americans, which was a show which was about like how Russia and America
are not that different. You know, you hear these, these, these accents and you're like, oh wow,
something horrible is about to happen. And that's a really like shitty part of your brain because
with this whole story and these people recontextualize through like British actors,
through like British actors. It sort of creates a situation where this is about like the
universal, the universality of like human behavior and
are like capacity to lie to ourselves.
So I don't know, I really like it.
I think like, you know, HB1 and I have game of thrones
anymore, but they have Chernobyl and Barry and those are
pretty good.
Yeah.
So that's number one.
They're good, but I mean, you know, Barry gets about half
a million viewers. I like Barry a lot. It's really
fucking good. But nobody's watching those shows like I also thought while I was
watching Chernobyl, like the real house I said New York is a better show than
this. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I've considered watching Chernobyl, but I'm
like, this looks so fucking depressing. You know, I have a limit. It's so
different. I have a limit. It's so different. I have a limit.
It's like, it's like, it doesn't look like you're going to be able to get like any kind
of like, there's not going to be any like, uh, let up on the depression of Chernobyl.
So I don't know, man, like we live in America and it's 2019, like, look at the fuck around.
You know, there's a, how much depression can one person handle?
I don't know. I, I really liked that the way that it was dissecting human behavior for me because I
find myself wondering like why would someone do this completely irrational like self-destructive thing?
And when you see like the thought process that leads up to it, it doesn't solve it, but it does
like give you an understanding, which again is the reason that I love ReHousewives because it's all about like, you know,
people's psychotic behavior and like the weird ways
we like to loot ourselves.
So there's that.
The other nice things that I have are,
I saw the like clips from the new live-action Aladdin,
which looks horrible and Aladdin's my favorite Disney movie.
And it looks so bad.
Oh yeah, no, Aladdin is gonna be the,
I believe Aladdin will be the first true
like Disney bomb in a long time.
It looks so bad and it's so depressing
because it could be such a good movie
and Will Smith is so horribly miscast.
But it drove me to like watch a bunch of action scenes
and like large group musical numbers for movies
past on YouTube, which was actually like really fun.
And I don't know if there's just something about like choreography, which is the thing that
ties the two together.
But when done in a really realistic way, it's really beautiful.
And there's something about like either both
fight choreography but also like you know in a big musical number.
There's something about like the way that the body expresses itself without words that
I don't know it was just really fascinating and I didn't realize how hard it was to do
because so many people like work really hard on those things all the time in Hollywood.
I didn't kind of realize how hard it was to do until I saw how badly Aladdin did it.
And so it really re-contextualized and gave me like a appreciation for how hard it is to pull up
a giant crowd scene of choreography. So I don't know. I was doing that on YouTube. And then the last
thing was I went out to Long Island to see my family over the weekend.
And everyone in my family is Leanne's conservative,
but my grandparents are like hardcore antifa.
And it was so refreshing.
You just need to find one person at a party
and have like them to cling onto.
And it was wonderful.
So I just shout out to grandma.
Wow.
I think I only really have one nice thing, which
is this game state of mind, which I definitely slept on.
It was released at the end of 2018.
It is available for the Switch.
It is graphically really impressive on the Switch.
It's a full, not open world,
but full exploratory 3D game where you play,
I don't know if that far into it,
but you play as, I don't know,
there's like, you play it's two different characters,
there's some stuff going on with memory loss
and sort of reality and I don't know,
it's definitely, the storyline is really intriguing.
The world that it creates is really intriguing.
It's not like super realistic graphics,
like it's not like, you know, days gone or something,
but it's a really interesting game
and I have to say for the Switch,
like I felt like very impressive.
And I had never heard of it.
I saw somebody tweet about it just super randomly
and I went to check it out and I was like, oh, this seems cool. And I have to say, like. I saw somebody tweet about it just super randomly and I went to check it out
and I was like, oh, this seems cool.
And I have to say, like, I think it's a pretty interesting game
and I've been looking for a game
that has a little bit more meat on its bones
than like a lot of the games I'm playing on my Switch,
which are like side scrollers or just like very arcade-ish
kind of games or like platform games.
So anyhow, I don't know, that seems really cool.
And I think that's it.
I don't think I have any other.
I bought Wonder Boy.
The Wonder Boy Remake.
I was so into Wonder Boy for the master system when I was younger.
Anyhow, go on.
Well, they did a remake with full animation by animators,
and it's really stunning and that like level of
character detail and like the way that they use keyframes, it's really beautiful and you there's
like a button you can press that puts it either in the original like eight bit graphics, but then
you can hit a button and like the animators work can over, like we'll go over
it in like while you're playing and it's really cool and like there's a video on YouTube
by on a channel called video game animation study all about the way that it's animated and it
I don't know, there's something cool about like taking something that clearly
worked and just sort of like adding more art to it.
I don't know, I really liked it.
I think it's like the way you should remake a game.
And it, because you get the original there if you want it and someone else's art is
just like additional to it.
I don't know, it was good.
Do you think, are you excited for the Final Fantasy 7 remake?
Yeah, I'm like super pumped.
I loved Final Fantasy 7.
It was like I was addicted to it because my cousin told me it was cool.
And so I got super into it when I was a kid.
And then I found out that it was also a very good game.
And it has been like not remade and not re-released much.
And when it originally came out, it was on the PlayStation 1, and it took two CDs.
So it's not an easy...
I have a PlayStation classic, and you have to do the hack to switch CD-ROMs.
To have a really nice updated version of it, I'm excited about it.
But it also, with remaking games, I have a little bit of pause when they, it gives me
pause when a video game is remade or remastered and it's completely new work presented as if it's
the old work, because the old work was something that someone worked really hard on and was like
an achievement and it was their artistic statement. And to do something that's like kind of the same
thing, but with all new artwork, and then acting like it's the same thing kind of bothers me.
Like, I don't know.
Like, it's like if you used that 90s remake of Psycho,
that shot for shot remake of Psycho,
and you were like, this is Psycho.
Like, no, it's not.
It's like a weird remake that's shot for shot copy,
but it's not the original piece of art.
Right.
So you don't even mean like why a father?
Yeah.
And so I don't know if I totally like how they're releasing it, but I'm also like super pumped
because I love the game.
So we'll say interesting.
All right.
Well, look, I got to go.
I got to start my Memorial Day weekend.
So let's wrap this motherfucker up.
Yeah, I didn't even know I was getting one.
Yeah.
Look at that.
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So I've just been informed that your family is going on Fox News.
It's not to bring people together.