Tomorrow - 164: Death Stranded

Episode Date: May 31, 2019

Did you know that UFOs were real? Or that Elon Musk's Hyperloop was a scam? Or that Booksmart was better than Aladdin? Well thanks to episode 164, you do now. This episode of Tomorrow also includes di...scussions of Death Stranding, the Spice Girls, and Disney's Galaxy's Edge and is therefore not suitable for boring people who do not love fun. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey and welcome to Tomorrow, I'm your host, Josh Wetzpulski. Today on the podcast we discuss the Hyperloop, the Flu and PT. I don't always one minute. Let's get right into it. All right, we're back another week. Return of the Mac. A lot of shit, no. A lot of shit happened. A lot of fucked up shit happened this week, Ryan.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Yeah, I'm not afraid to tell you that I am shell shocked. It was. It was. It was. It was. It's been a week. Do you think the New York Times is only Thursday and the week basically started on Tuesday
Starting point is 00:01:01 because it was Memorial Day weekend. So it's been three days. Do you think the New York Times is the weekly? We'll encapsulate just how I hope so. I hope they capture all of this. I saw a trailer for Axios has an HBO show apparently. Oh, do they? And I saw trailer for season two,
Starting point is 00:01:19 which apparently they're doing a season two. And it ends with Jared Kushner saying it's hard to keep up with the times. And I can only cure it as I only cure that as Axios you Axios are doing a bad job of keeping up with the New York Times. That's the way I hurt that's the way I see it. Anyhow, any now, fuck Jared Kushner. So what's the most what was the most unnotable thing from the sweet creole? Yeah, yeah, you're gonna say it. I can't stop talking about death stranding. I wasn't even that interested in death stranding. Okay, here's what happened.
Starting point is 00:01:50 So, Hideo Kijima is the god. The god is Hideo. Has been teasing this game for several years. He loves to tease. And he loves for play. He does, he really does. He's all but edging. He's an edgy edger.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so finally, we got this big thing. They're like, oh, there's going to be this thing. It's a twitch thing. And you go on twitch and there's all these hands. The world is in your hands is the thing. By the way, happening at the same time as Nintendo's or the Pokemon companies, Pokemon press conference on Twitch, Twitch is really like nailing down these live events.
Starting point is 00:02:31 It's too hot for TV. Too hot for TV. That should be their tagline. It's not TV, it's Twitch. Too hot for TV. Twitch. I want my Twitch TV. Anyhow, so then they revealed it's a trailer for the game death stranding, which I was
Starting point is 00:02:47 harboring this hope that there's been a Reddit theory that has been, I mean a lot of people have talked about it. Kajima was going to do a new version of the game Silent Hill, which would be a huge departure for him because he doesn't do survival horror. And they released a demo for it in 2014 called PT on the PlayStation, which I've never played, but I've heard from people and I understand it's like one of the greatest. There is a recreation of it. Yeah, I don't want to, I don't, that's definitely not going to be as good.
Starting point is 00:03:18 There's no fucking way to be as good. So, so, so, and there was this, there's this Reddit, a Reddit theory that's like, this death stranding is all, it's all like, subterfuge, it's all like, it's like, it's meant to look like a game about something, it's like Norman Reedus is in it, Matt's Michelson, all these people. It's like the sci-fi thing, but actually, it's like the Silent Hill game somehow,
Starting point is 00:03:42 like, and like in the demo demo There's like scenes from the game in like pictures on the wall like scenes from death stranding and like paintings on the wall It's like all this like weird You know conspiracy shit. I was like oh my god. It'd be so fucking amazing if like you think it's gonna be this one thing And it's actually something totally different which by the way, I think there's actually we I wouldn't say that's a totally That's totally off the table. I'll get to that in a second. But hey, how they released a trailer yesterday. Was yesterday?
Starting point is 00:04:10 Mm-hmm. And it's like a nine minute trailer. It doesn't really tell you what the game is about, but it looks really good. It's set in America after some kind of apocalyptic event. Supposedly, I think it might open with the line of like, like, Norma Rita saying like America is finished or close, something close to it.
Starting point is 00:04:30 And then he tells the, the woman president, you know, it's a, you know, it's a video game because there's a woman president. So it's like completely unrealistic. And he's like, you're the president of Jack Shit, which is I think a great line. And I don't know, like, Mads, Michelson, it's like a bad guy. There's like a baby.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It's like a baby in a test tube, Leah Seddo's, and everyone's crying. There's like a scene where every character in the game is crying. Like, heavy rain. And it's coming out in November 8th. Yeah, like heavy rain. And I'm shocked that it made it.
Starting point is 00:04:58 That end of Cyberpunk comes out this generation. I will be shocked because I was pretty sure these were gonna be games bumped over to PS5. There's no fucking way. Xbox two or more. Mark my words. Cyberpunk is not coming out in 2019. Is Lady Gaga still involved with that?
Starting point is 00:05:12 I don't think so. Well, she ever involved. Yeah, at one point, there's like a rumor that she was the main character. I don't think that's correct. And that's not right at all. Sorry, you don't know that it is and is equal to a star is born where Ali is a robot cop. I'm still haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:05:25 I heard there's a twist ending, but I don't want to hear anything about. equal to a star's born where Ali is a robot cop. Still haven't seen it. I heard there's a twist editing, but I don't wanna hear anything about it. There's a lot of pee. Really? Yeah. What? There's a lot of pee in a star's. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I, it's a piss-pick content. They're, please Ryan, please are a children listening to this. Um, there's no way the cyberpunk 2077 is coming out. It's too ambitious for this. There's no way that Cyberpunk 2077 is coming out. It's too ambitious for this. There's no way. Think of the loading time. There's no fucking way it's coming out on this generation.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I mean, it will be available for this generation of consoles just for the Wii U. No, it'll be available. The grade is console. But it's not, they're not, they're gonna, it, it, it, it, it, you three, they're gonna be like coming in 2020. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 That's what they're gonna do. They're gonna show looking. And there might be a version that drops on ps4 or whatever, but it's a ps5 game It'll be yeah, that's right But yeah, Death Stranding is coming out for the ps4. Yeah, no, remember and you know, it looks pretty good Now the whole thing is made me want to buy you can buy a of old PlayStation console with pt the pt demo on it Which is psychotic. Yeah, well, this whole thing is spurred me into action And now I have a bunch in my, oh, my watch list on either. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Maybe I'll buy you. Me with the virtual, but it's not good. It's a bad situation. But anyhow, so like desk training seems really good and interesting. It looks great. And frankly, Kojima with every release has done something that's really surprised me.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And like, I think that he has, he's the kind of person that, even though he has had a lot of mainstream success, and of course, there's ups and downs within like Metal Gear Solid and stuff. I think he... Metal Gear Solid is great. Sure, but there are ups and downs creatively,
Starting point is 00:06:55 but I do think he has maintained a sort of outsider's artist perspective and has been able to consistently get things out the door with that, which is difficult. And he's like the David Lynch of video games where I'm consistently shocked that the things he makes gets out the door and that he continues to work with big companies and makes these weird things.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So I'm actually really pumped because I have been missing super weird video games. But they're also action packed. I mean, they are like, they're sellable. They're games. Yeah. And they're fun games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:25 So I'm, they marketed games. Yeah. They're fun games. Yeah. So I'm, they marketed 20. Yeah. Kind of. I am excited about Death Training, but then somebody, I saw a tweet today, which I thought was interesting, where somebody's like, did you notice that every time there's a scene change
Starting point is 00:07:38 in the trailer, it's not like a fade, it's someone's eyes blinking, like as if someone's observing it. And I was like, oh my God, it is Silent Hill. It's like, this is like a TV show in the Silent Hill universe or something. I don't know. I'm hoping I hope that there's another surprise waiting for us.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And that these little like, Easter eggs weren't, you know, weren't bullshits. Easter eggs. The other thing that's interesting is that I mean, what's really, so first off, like, Kojima, he has such like weird ideas. Like, I was reminded of the PS1, the Metal Gear Solid, that there's a battle, and I remember playing this in my friend's house, and it like blew my mind,
Starting point is 00:08:19 where you fight this character, Psycho Mantis. And Psycho Mantis, like like takes control of your controller. Like psychomantis is like, you read your memory card and talks about it, like he's like, oh, I see you've been playing Castlevania, and like, it's like, oh my god. It's like a crazy idea. And then like, he's like, I'm telekinetic,
Starting point is 00:08:37 look how powerful I am, and he's like, put your controller on a table, and then he like vibrates the controller with his mind or whatever. It's really fucking cool. And then in order to beat him, you have to literally unplug the controller and plug it into the second player control slot, control port, which is nuts. Anyhow, I was reminded of those kinds of things and I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:08:56 that's such an interesting, weird like fourth wall breaking that like is so rarely done. Yeah. I feel like there's a game that I was playing that just did it, I can't think of what it is right now. Did any right? It's a really well executed version of when Nintendo would make you blow on the DS screen. Is that a thing?
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah, you'd like blow on the DS screen and it would react as if wind was in the game because the microphone could pick up the static. That's cool. That's very cool. Anyhow, so yeah, Death Train, I'm excited about it. Yeah. There's not much else to say.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I mean, oh, oh, oh, but there is, oh, sorry, one other thing to say about it. There's a special edition version of it you can get that has the baby in the little like carrying pod, which is insane, but I like it. I want to buy it for some reason that is capitalism. Yeah. All right, what else is going on? Well, in other video game news, the Xbox game pass is coming to PC, which gives further credence to the idea that Xbox is just going to be sort of
Starting point is 00:09:54 like stadia where it's like a, it's everywhere service as opposed to like a games shop on the switch as opposed to like you buy an Xbox for these experience. I mean, if they can get the streaming and working with Sony too. Think of the streaming latency, right? It's a cool idea. It's very Microsoft of them. It's very much like a PC idea for video games. It's kind of a natural evolution
Starting point is 00:10:16 because they had crossed by for a while. And so this is like a natural. Here's a question, why does a Microsoft buy Valve? Yeah, I have no idea. I've thought for a long time. That'd be so crazy. Like why Valve? Yeah, I have no idea. I've thought for a long time. That'd be so crazy. Like, why not? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:27 It'd be insane. They went on a streak purchasing developers, and my thinking was like, if you just bought Valve, you could then have the control over the developers to make everything cross by and console and locked down. And honestly, like Valve, with the, you know, Epic and GOG and alternative stores could really use it. And it's like a perfect integration because Steam is so great on windows. It would give them a foothold, even on Mac and all that stuff. It just seems like a natural thing that they should probably do.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm looking at the, what the value finances. The company has an estimated worth of two to four billion, which is like nothing to Microsoft. Nothing. I mean, they paid eight billion for a... And Microsoft is not known to not acquire. Like Microsoft's main move is to just buy things out. I try to think of Microsoft. They like some GitHub.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Microsoft bought like group me or something for eight billion dollars. No, it wasn't group me. It was not linked in. Now, I think LinkedIn was more, hold on, hold on, let me see. This is really good. It's not like the Apple move where like Apple
Starting point is 00:11:26 like just comes up with their own version of a competitor. If it works like Apple music, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Microsoft just buys people. So why would they? 26.2 billion is what they paid for LinkedIn. 26.2 billion dollars, okay? To spam my email with some of the people
Starting point is 00:11:40 that they pay like a billion for like an ad thing that they like wrote down. They're like, it's nothing. They bought Nokia. They could buy Valve. Right, on, on, on, let's see what the Nokia, how much, how much do you think Nokia was? I don't know, those patents were each worth a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Oh, eight billion. Yeah. Eight billion. Total waste of mine. Just buy Valve. Valve would be a really an investment. You get Steam, you get all those developers. And frankly, with Sony's like stock of first party and third party developers
Starting point is 00:12:06 that they have on lock and their foothold in VR, it's kind of the main move. It's a move, it's a gaming move. And then you use, then you do like, steam on consoles. And you say to big picture mode, do it right. And you say to developers, if you do cross, like cross by, like if you create a port for Xbox,
Starting point is 00:12:27 which is super easy, because it's an X86 platform, you get a slightly bigger share of your revenue, so there's your incentive. Right. I mean, they're not doing any of this. No, it's all fantasy. This is complete fantasy. They're making Xbox Game Pass on PC, which I mean, I like the direction that Microsoft's going, because frankly, they weren't going to win any console war, but I mean they they they didn't great with the 360 But like Sega did great with the Genesis. There's not weren't set up to win this round But this might give them a play against Google and Sony and Nintendo It's an interesting development as they say on Southern charm if you can't fight them in vitamin. What is that?
Starting point is 00:13:00 Southern charm. Is that is that the one with Rachel Bilsen? No, it's a reality. Oh, it's real people. Yeah. What's the one with Rachel Bilsen? She's like a Southerner. Oh, like Southern pride or those callers don't run or I was famous in 2006. Something like that. Where's Seth going now? Also, currently residing in where they now file file. You want to talk about what? I mean, do you want to talk about Galaxy's Edge? OK, here's what I want to say. I woke up to DM's from you of Coca-Cola bottles from the Galaxy's Edge. This is all that's important.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Is that there's a Bloomberg article, I think was published today that's like the merch you can buy at Galaxy's Edge is Disney's Star Wars world that you can go hang out in. And it's like not like an amusement park in the sense that like it's like you're in Star Wars. It's like Westworld. Yeah, it's like Westworld, but for Star Wars. Yeah, it's like you're in the play, you're a character. Starworld.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Welcome to what's that immersive play? Sleep no more. Sleep no more. Yes, sleep no more. It's Star Wars sleep no more. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so any how much people fuck? So. Wow. sleep no more. Sleep no more. It's Star Wars sleep no more. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so anyhow, people fuck.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Wow. But they're e-walks. You watch e-walks fuck. But they, so they have these like shops where you can buy like, you can like design a lightsaber and like you can buy like the crystals that go in the lightsabers and you can buy like, I know all kinds of like shit from like the universe of Star Wars, which is really cool. And they have coaks you can buy.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And the coaks are like, they look like crazy Star Wars coaks. They look like little grenades. If Coke existed in the Star Wars universe, this is what it would look like. It has like weird like language on it, Star Wars language. Yeah, which is just, you know, random symbols. Basically, it basically random symbols.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And yeah, it's really cool. It's just very, very cool. And it got me like, I am Earth. I was legit about like, oh, I want, I want to go to do this. Like, this is something I'm actually interested in. Well, I did have a lot of faith in the Galaxy Zed Project because Avatar land or whatever,
Starting point is 00:15:02 World of Pandora, whatever they did, is a property I give no shit about. But the theme was so on point, did you know? I've just seen kind of stuff online. I was saying you haven't been to Avatar World. Like I'm not going to Florida for Avatar. What is it called? It's like, what is it called?
Starting point is 00:15:16 World of Pandora. No Pandora. But the theme was really extensive. And my thinking was like, that was their response to Harry Potter and basically practiced to do a really good start. Where was that? How insane is it that they're like, remember Avatar from like 10 years ago?
Starting point is 00:15:30 Did it entire amusement park around it? Frankly, James Cameron is the world's, like, ultimate scammer because he had them make like six sequels to that first movie at the same time. Yeah. Before he even released one, they just still like, still care. I know that he's like, he's like,
Starting point is 00:15:44 he's like in one of them. He's in park and they're like, yes, James, you've and he just still care. I know that he's like, he's like, I'm one of them. He's in park and they're like, yes, James, you've done it again. When people are interested, we will be ready. They're like, the park is underway. When's that sequel coming out? He's like 20, 20 X, like an anime.
Starting point is 00:15:59 It's like Neo Tokyo. No, they've delayed that Avatar sequel for a year because he was like, oh wow, a lot of movies use my ideas that I had. It's like eco terrorism. And definitely waiting, it's the right move with that property. People have just only grown more far longer.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I think the longer they wait, the more they want it. I was actually reading, like, we were looking at this, it's old CNN article, which is like my favorite, one of my favorite this old CNN article, which is like my favorite, one of my favorite articles of all time, which is like people having, it's like, they're calling like like the blues or something, and it's like, they're so depressed. Oh yeah. They can't live in in Avatar's world. People were like suicidal. No, no, I was like, I just think about the, I keep thinking about how upset I am that I can't live with the nubby, and I contemplated suicide. And it's like, I don't think the problem is that you like the world of Avatar.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Let me put it that way. Like, I think you have bigger problems. I don't know. I feel that way about another blue character, Sonic the Hedgehog. Wait, what do we tell you about? Oh, Galaxy's Edge. Anyhow, the theme is- The Disney part. The Disney part looks a lot like a lot of fun. And I won't go because there can be too many crowds and too many people and too many like a lot of lines. Well, when there's four locations and it's two years out and everything's polished
Starting point is 00:17:08 and run like a- Is it done, is it ready? When is it, when is it, when is it? I think it's ready. They just had press to a preview. We saw inside the bathroom, so everything must be done. The toilet flush, they're upside down on the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:17:17 You have to get into like a toilet suit. You get a little poop hologram that's like, you have to flush me, you're manly. Yeah. Yeah, like what do they do? They don't have mirrors, they're like, I don't know, I don't know what they are. It's like everything's just a little bit different
Starting point is 00:17:30 than it is in the real world. They have like, like, like, this caricature aliens looking back at you from the mirror. Yeah, I like that, I like that. That's good. That's like the, there's a place in Las Vegas where,
Starting point is 00:17:40 or I think it's in Las Vegas, maybe not, but the urinals are mouths. Oh yeah, yeah. It's like, it's like this is unnecessary, uncomfortable for everyone here. It's big content. Yeah, it's big, good stuff. All right, let's talk about real things.
Starting point is 00:17:53 You like UFOs? Mm, closer to Earth. What, what? Trump and Mueller. Oh, not as interesting. Well, we'll do this quickly. Okay. And then we'll go to UFOs.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Um, Mueller gave a press conference. What is there to say? Mueller gave a press conference where he was like, guys, Mueller's annoying. I told you, Mueller's fucking annoying. Yeah, I know. He's like, I think you all know what to do. Goodbye.
Starting point is 00:18:15 He's like, I saw a really good tweet that was like, did anybody do the reading assignment and the word raises their hand? He's like, anybody but Elizabeth. He's like, the report says everything. It's clear, you could obviously see what I'm saying. I'd please do not subpoena me, do not ask me to testify because there's nothing
Starting point is 00:18:33 more I can add than what is in the report. It's like, you could say, if you think Donald Trump committed a crime, you could just say, we think he committed a crime. Don't see, you don't, you can't say. It's a precedent of when we said that they needed to investigate Hillary Clinton's email. How about this?
Starting point is 00:18:47 And tell them to impeach. Don't say we can't rule out that he didn't commit a crime, which is like a double negative. And also don't take the Department of Justice's like random guideline that it's unconstitutional. Yeah, that's fine. It can be fine if you can't try. You can't charge him. You definitely can though. No, no, no, it's fine. I mean, is that's fine. It can be fine if you can't charge him. You'd have like, Ken though. No, no, no, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I mean, is that playing the game according to his rules? This literally happened with Nixon. They fired the guy, the prosecutor. And then he was like, this is up to Congress, and he's like, it's up to Congress, the American people, if like, we're gonna be like a place where there's the rule of law
Starting point is 00:19:22 or if it's gonna be be like the rule of men. And like a week later, dude got impeached. And like the reality is like Robert Mueller could be like, okay, guys, here's what I think. I think that the president did some bad shit. I it's not within my power to try him. That's what Congress does in this situation. They're the only people who can do it. By the way, I think they should wait on impeachment. I think they should wait until about three or four months out before the election, because I do not think, I think if Trump is impeached, but don't you think that might just rally as supporters to be like, they're trying to fuck us? Hey, fuck you. And they'll go out and vote when right now they kind of don't
Starting point is 00:20:03 get to say about me. Let me ask you. What if they begin impeachment proceedings and they go through them and the and and and the house is like we vote to impeach and they get sent up to the Senate. And the Senate's like, no, we're good. He's fine. Impeachment just made Clinton more popular. And my fear is my point. This is my point. So if you do it in the in the in the moment when the election is occurring, when all eyes are gonna be on who you should vote for, and you can start to expose the things that he's done and ask him about them and all that shit,
Starting point is 00:20:34 that's the moment where he's at his weakest. I just think that if we try to elect people based on that rather than having our own ideas in plan, I feel like we need to rally around a couple candidates and get people excited about them and then maybe we can have that conversation. But right now, I think that, to me, an impeachment's just gonna make his base
Starting point is 00:20:54 more excited about defending him and like fuck you liberals trying to, you couldn't win an election, so now you're gonna stab our guy in the back, like whatever bullshit argument. That's right. So I don't know, I mean. I feel like we all need to, I mean, there are so many down my credit. Should they impeach?
Starting point is 00:21:10 Yes. I agree. They should impeach. But strategically. Yes, strategically impeachment. And they should really draw it out. They should go real slow. Like they should have some guy who reads real slow doing all the questions.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Alexandria Cosio-Cretace. Mr. George. No, they should get, they should get Agent Smith from the Matrix. He's very slow talker. Any hour, let's say about UFOs. UFOs, another government news. Apparently, the Air Force is like, we got aliens flying around in the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:21:42 It's like, oh yeah, there's all these air force guys who are like wow We saw something that definitely defies logic and reality and here's the video of it and It flies in insane ways that don't make sense with physics and it looks like you a spaceship But we don't know what it is. We're all like okay. Well, I guess so why not. I mean what is it? What is it? No one knows. But don't you feel like maybe this whole alien thing is kind of like us living in a virtual reality simulation
Starting point is 00:22:10 or whatever where it's like, that might well be true. It also doesn't matter because if it is true, those people could just, like aliens could just kill us, the virtual reality could get unplugged. We just kind of got to live your life as if. You're saying it doesn't matter if aliens are visiting this planet. Because if they have the technology to do that
Starting point is 00:22:25 We just exist on their whim like our best bet is to just die quickly if they decide they don't like us So we kind of got to live as if like I think the best plan of action. It's just pretend they're out there. It would be crazy Like if the aliens showed up and they were like just like us, but they had better spaceships Like that's possible. we're all like cuter. I mean, it's very possible, they're just like, exactly like humans, but they came up with stuff better. Well, this art play would be to show up and look like us and be like, hey, that's a science fiction idea.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Like, they're gonna look like something. Yeah, they're not gonna be disguising themselves. But they're probably gonna show up trying to look like us, so that we don't look like them. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. They all look like little kids. How would they know? Hi, we're little white children. How are they? We love Jesus Christ
Starting point is 00:23:07 Wow, the Mars aliens are terrific. Yeah, I love these aliens. I'll do anything they say I Don't think I think I'm just saying like none of us are Jews. Yeah We love to procreate I don't I'm just saying is it possible that the aliens are really us? Time travelers? What is the thing? What is the thing flying around? What the fuck is it?
Starting point is 00:23:36 I think it's aliens. No. I know that you really think so. I think it is. Is there aliens or bugs in our code? Something was tweeting that, like what if like the AI, that the AI became self-aware, but it didn't want to introduce itself to us like,
Starting point is 00:23:50 as a computer, because it would be scary. So it's like introducing itself to us as an alien that it's like putting the thing in the... It's a better story. Somehow, I don't know, for the human brain. It seems like a bunch of BS. I just want to be taking off this world,
Starting point is 00:24:02 whether it's a nuclear bomb or a teleporter. I want someone to show up and be like Guys, you're fucking this up We're just gonna clean up your atmosphere and give you some ground rules and we'll come back in a thousand years And you you know worked it out and then and then we'll be like thank you aliens and then you know The guy from ancient aliens with his insane hair is like I told you so and we can all live in peace and harmony I know I know I know not happening Probably not I mean it's probably not a good, that's not a good solution. And it's not going to happen. It's very unrealistic, I think. Well, speaking of fall saviors, want to talk about Elon Musk again?
Starting point is 00:24:37 What do you do? The hyperloop. Oh, yeah. The hyperloop. The hyperloop is down a tunnel for cars. Yeah, it's just a quick, it's just a tunnel. Does he even put them on tracks? Or they just drive through there?
Starting point is 00:24:46 It's cars. They just drive through? It's just a cart tunnel. Remember he was like the Hyperloop, you can travel from New York to California in one hour or whatever. He was like, we can't worry about labor laws, we need this thing, it's gonna save humanity. And now it's a tunnel.
Starting point is 00:24:59 This was also he could build it, he wanted to build a large mansion in LA and he did land. No, it's fucking bullshit. I mean, it's, it's, look, I mean, I'm sorry. I mean, you know, so me can be really smart and also stupid as hell and also a scammer. Yeah, that's possible to, all of this can be contained in one person.
Starting point is 00:25:14 They generally are, yeah. I think, well, it's like Tony Robbins, you know, like people have been telling me how cool Tony Robbins is for years and then it turns out like, there's just a table him like screaming the N word. Maybe, and he's also a sexual, a sexual harasser. And maybe he's not that cool. Yeah, but I mean, it just it turns out like, there's just a taboom like screaming the N word. And maybe, and he's also a sexual harasser, and maybe he's not that cool. Yeah, but I mean, it just comes down to like,
Starting point is 00:25:29 we, I feel like we keep putting all of our eggs in the basket of like a capitalist genius without wondering if like, you know, single genius can't really save us, and also like we need lots of smart people, and so we should fund education, but also like the answer isn't gonna be like a private company isn't gonna crack everything.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Like the idea that blue origin is gonna save the human race by sending us to another planet. So when this planet's destroyed, we'll have an outpost somewhere, it's like fucking insane. Like that's insane. Like let's just feed poor people
Starting point is 00:25:58 and stop ballooning the environment. Well, I mean, it is, it would be not that hard. The face travel is great, but it would be good if there was a little bit more of giving people stuff. But it just feels like the hyperloop gets like, like this is gonna solve our infrastructure problem. And like, no, it probably isn't. You know what would solve our infrastructure problem
Starting point is 00:26:16 is infrastructure. Well, the hyperloop would, if it worked the way it was described originally, would be really helpful. Sure, and if everything that capitalism promised us and like corporations and companies promised us worked the way that they said that it would, it would always really helpful. Sure, and if everything that capitalism promised us and corporations and companies promised us worked the way that they said that it would, it would always be great. But they never do. And I just feel like we keep getting caught in philosophically
Starting point is 00:26:35 in a trap of thinking that the internet will be the bastion of education and ends up, it also spreads tons of misinformation and doesn't work perfectly. And we have to tackle the fundamental problems in really fundamental ways. of education and like ends up, it also spreads tons of misinformation and doesn't work perfectly. And like we can't, we have to tackle the fundamental problems in like really fundamental ways. And Elon Musk drives me nuts because he keeps promising everybody a few years out.
Starting point is 00:26:53 His battery technology will solve the energy crisis and it's like, there's good results. He's got that. But in the meantime, maybe we build a nuclear power plant or do some solar energy investment and a green new deal. It just works. Okay, Elon's got a sub question in his technique. He knows what he's doing. a particular power plant or do some solar energy investment and a green new deal. It just works. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Elon's got a stop question in his technique. He knows what he's doing. He's a solid guy. He's a solid guy and he's definitely not. He thinks the number 420 is very funny. Well, we all do. There's two funniest numbers are 420 and 69. I think we all know that.
Starting point is 00:27:21 They have endless utility. And really they're best together when you think about it. For 20, 60, 60, 60. Exactly. All right, what else is going on? A ton of companies are starting to pull their business out of states that are trying to pass. Oh, I love this.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I love this. Fucking, who was a Bob Iger from Disney? Was like, yeah, I don't think we can keep, was it Bob Iger from Disney? Yeah. Is he from Disney? Yes. He was like, yeah, sorry, I don't think we can keep working
Starting point is 00:27:44 in Alabama if, or Georgia, if you guys have this. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. I grew up in a different country. goes bankrupt, they can go to hell. They are fucking bastards. They are the devil. And by the way, this guy, uh, where is he in fucking? Who's the guy who the, the Democrat who just signed, uh, an abortion, this heartbeat abortion law into, uh, into law? Well, it was like that piece that I think was on slate today that was like political confession.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I think we should just give in to all the anti-abortion people. John, the governor of Louisiana, John Bell Edwards, Democratic governor. Fuck you. You're not a Democrat. You're not a Democrat. One of the backbones of the Democratic, of the Democratic beliefs is choice. Women having freedom to choose what they do with their bodies. And like, this shit's, this guy needs to be 100% excommunicated from the Democratic Party. As does anybody who's like, I'm pro-life, you can be pro-life in your life. Go ahead, do whatever you like.
Starting point is 00:28:52 You're, you're choice. You're a personal choice. Your body or choice. Your body or choice. Your wife's body or choice. I'm sure. But for the rest of the world and the rest of the Democrats, like shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:29:04 But if you're willing to compromise on something as core as like women's bodily autonomy and healthcare, what else are you willing to compromise on? Are you going to be like, well, we won't call it marriage. We'll switch gay people over here and like, you know, what else? Well, let's compromise on a few healthcare legislation, other healthcare legislation portions. And, you know, let's also comment at what point do we keep shifting the center over to the right? Like, we have to have things that we specifically don't fuck with.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And we specifically should not fuck with taking making teenagers who were raped by family members into having children. Like, let's just not fuck with that idea. I mean, though, it's like draw a line in the sand there. The whole thing is perverse and and and and deranged and awful. And I mean, look, I don't want to get to, I don't want to get too into the weeds on my feelings about the state of the country, but they're not good.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I'm gonna tell you, I wouldn't say they're upbeat and positive. I'm feeling bad about the country right now, and I can only hope that, I don't know, I was just trying to think of like, I was like, okay, it's 2020, the election's on. Yeah. If I'm a Trump supporter, do I feel better or worse about Trump in 2020?
Starting point is 00:30:07 I think I feel worse about Trump. I think generally speaking, I'm like, I think Trump's kind of a fuck up. And like when he came out with Putin, when he came out with Putin, and was like, I don't see why Russia would do anything. Like when he, like all the big backbone of loving him was that he was going to clean his act up, give me a tax cut and get this economy tight. I don't think the tax cut and get this economy tight. I don't think the tax cut happened.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Tax cut didn't happen. We have these tariffs coming in. The economic bubble is about to burst and it hasn't improved for people at the bottom. In fact, it's gotten worse. And like he didn't clean up and get like ship-shape and right. He's full on like Kim Jong-un. He's like a cool guy. Like the thing with the USS.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I got the smartest. The USS John McCain McCain the SS John McCain I am fighting with Megan from the view. It's so insane. I know the whole thing with that was He made some light of Japan. He went to Japan. He made some very dismissive remarks about Joe Biden and then had them move the SS John McCain He had them they know they covered they covered the the sign on the boat and then had them move the SS John McCain. He had them, they covered the sign on the boat and then had all of the guys who are work on it who wear the USS John McCain patch or whatever,
Starting point is 00:31:14 like take the day off so that he wouldn't see it. So he wouldn't see the name John McCain. So he wouldn't fly into a rage. That's the kind of like literal, that's some toddler ass shit. That's like as a person who has a young child, you can be like, you can be in real life as the president because this isn't Twitter. Yeah, but like, but like for children, you can like hide something under a blanket and it's like, it's, oh, I don't know where it went. They're like, okay, I guess it's not there. Like, it's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:31:41 It's deranged. It's disturbing. And I hate it. And I hate the president. And also I've literally been investigating how somebody moves to Canada. Like I was like, what would it take? Like I'm actually like, oh, I've I've spent hours researching different countries. Like, what is it? Let me immigration. Let me explain. Um, Zada will go to a elementary school, a public elementary school in our neighborhood, and they have a, you can opt out, you can opt your kid out of doing active shooter drills, first graders, okay?
Starting point is 00:32:15 And now I have to actually think, is it better to have her participate in the active shooter drill and emotionally scar her? And really fuck up, but look, oh, maybe she'll be safer from the person who comes to the school with a fucking gun. Or do I keep her home and keep her away from it because you can do that?
Starting point is 00:32:31 And maybe she doesn't know what to do when the active shooter shows up. And all I could think was like, I need to get the fuck out of a country that is more worried about protecting the gun makers and it is children in fucking elementary schools. And that's the country we live in. It children in fucking elementary schools. And that's the country we live in.
Starting point is 00:32:46 It is so fucking diseased. It is so fucking diseased and scary and upsetting. And like, I don't feel, I never felt this way about myself. Like I feel like I'm like, I've grown up through not the worst era of all time. And we didn't have active shooter drills in my elementary school or any of my schools, but little of school I went to. And now I have to contempl drills in my elementary school or any of my schools, but little of school I went to. And now I have to contemplate this shit and it's like other countries don't do this
Starting point is 00:33:10 because they don't have people who can just fucking get AR-15s and run around and fucking shoot up schools. And it's also not part of their culture to do that. And so like, yeah, I'm like checking out Canada. See what's going on with France? Checking out New Zealand, New Zealand's interesting, because yes, they had a mass shooting and they were like, hey, guess what?
Starting point is 00:33:28 All the AR-15s are banned. Go fuck yourself. Which is the correct reaction to the first mass shooting. The thing that gave me pause recently was, we're talking, I'm getting married in the fall, if everything goes over. Congratulations. But we keep talking about kids and how,
Starting point is 00:33:44 frankly, we both need to make more money because we want to adopt and it's gonna be 50 to $100,000 for that to happen. And people keep saying like get a surrogate or get a friend to get pregnant or whatever. Just invent male birth. That all sounds great, but once you open yourself up to the idea of like adopting a kid
Starting point is 00:34:02 and all of that entails, it you don't, it's hard to then turn around and be like, I'll make somebody. And also when I look at the state of the world, if a person already exists and has to grow up here, I'm going to try to make their life the best that they can that I can. But I can't in good conscience at this point create a person out of like whole cloth to inhabit a world where they're going to get shot at school or the oceans will boil or we'll all run out of food or they'll get the measles because nobody got vaccinated. There'll be an boiling ocean while we shoot to them from the shore.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Like we live. We live and people keep bringing up this point though we live in the safest time. We live in the most technologically advanced time. We live in. But the thing is it's like, but basic problems. Like, it's like the great comedian, Louis C. K says, you know? Okay. Everything is amazing.
Starting point is 00:34:51 No one's happy. But it's like, you could get on your cell phone on a plane. Our infanticide rate is so high and like, rare diseases are coming back and like shootings are really prevalent and it's like, I can't make a kid in that world. So like, I'm gonna have to, if I wanna have a family, I gotta like hustle up and so that I can in good conscience.
Starting point is 00:35:09 You know, it's just fucked up and I did not expect any of this growing up and I'm so sick of older people being like, your generation is big complainers and so entitled and why can't you get it together and why do you all live with your parents and why are you killing Apple Vs? It's like, you made us all poor
Starting point is 00:35:24 and like on the brink of death. What did you, sorry, we're not like cool. I don't know. I don't mean to just like shit on all of this, but I do think that like the closer we get to the 2020 election, the more pragmatic I'm trying to think about things. And also the more I'm trying to weave a larger narrative
Starting point is 00:35:42 for myself and for other people out of all the horrible stuff we all feel. Because I think that also Trump was a response to that. It was people's desperation for like, fuck the system because they know it's bad. If we can weave a larger narrative and give people hope and say there is, there are reasons for what's happening. And there's a mindset that when the philosophy we need to get rid of, like that is the, you gotta go like into the darkness to come out with like a plan for it. And I just, I don't know, like, especially on this podcast
Starting point is 00:36:09 every week, like talking about the whole world, it's easy to like ignore news until you're forced to make a list of it for Slack. So Josh and you have something to talk about. Exactly right. And you can kind of start to see like a pattern. So maybe we talk about the same thing on this podcast regularly.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah, maybe. It's part of a regular cycle that we're in. I just like, I just want, I just want people to use their brains and do the right thing and nobody does that. Here anymore it seems like and it's really upsetting. Well, at Jack and at Twitter, are considering finally banning hate accounts. Considering.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Considering. They're like, let's set a meeting for two months from now. They're like, are Nazis bad? And we'll talk about it if Nazis are bad. An investigation. are Nazis bad? And we'll talk about it from now. It's an investigation. Are Nazis bad? Really shrugs Jack as he drinks his... Kombucha.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Kombucha, ayahuasca kombucha. Salt, drink, salt, beverage, I don't know whatever. I don't care. I'm like social media is garbage. Facebook is shit. I mean, this thing with the Nancy Pelosi videos is insane. They're like we don't want it. How is it gonna on this log? I just I mean I tweeted about this the other day as I want to do and I was just like look they know they know that the videos
Starting point is 00:37:16 Confusing people and they like it. It's good for engagement. Mm-hmm They like it when people are confused people sit there longer and try to figure it the fuck out. They comment, they repost it. Facebook's a fucking scam. Facebook is the Tony Robbins of websites. And Twitter is the, I don't know, who's Tony Robbins assistant? Jordan Peterson. Yeah, Jordan Peterson.
Starting point is 00:37:37 No, but it's all garbage. I mean, Twitter's like doing a study to try to figure out if they should ban Hayley Council. And it's like, well, only a person, only a person who's actually stupid doesn't know the answer to this question. Either you're stupid or you're willfully ignorant and either one is not an excuse for a company.
Starting point is 00:37:54 That's a response for our- I mean, the answer is obvious for anyone that can read and write and has experienced the world for more than five years. Like the answer is just obvious. Like Nazis are bad. Or you're mentally ill. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I'm sorry. Those are the two positions that are in business. If your business can't sustain banning accounts run by Nazis who spout like Nazi shit, you have no business being in business. You're in your business sucks. You're a shitty business. I'm sorry, most businesses don't need Nazis.
Starting point is 00:38:15 They don't. They just fucking don't. No matter what, most bookstores don't need people to be able to buy copies of mine comp. Like, bookstores are fine. Amazon's fine. Does Amazon sell mine comp at Pride does, but like, wait, does it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:26 It's absolutely does. Let me see. Yeah, you can buy it. Many, many copies of mine conf. You can get an original version of mine conf. Beautiful. Wonderful. If Facebook is Tony Robbins, Twitter,
Starting point is 00:38:36 Stuart and Peter send them Instagram is Anadelvi. I don't know. Look, at it, at it, right? I'm just saying, Twitter's really dumb. The people who run it are really dumb. It's a bad service And I look why do we keep using it? Well, I personally I keep using it because it's part of my job to yeah See what's going on in the world and to tell people about stories that we're writing if if tomorrow my job was to make chairs I wouldn't fucking touch Twitter ever again
Starting point is 00:39:03 As someone who like makes jokes and witty remarks supposedly, I do feel a weird compulsion, allegedly, like a social compulsion to use Twitter. I don't wish that I could only, I feel only a habit, a force of habit. Like I need an outlet for that. I feel only a sense that something's going on. Which I do need before.
Starting point is 00:39:22 But the something's going on instinct is not real part of our existence. It's something that's been created by social media. Like you don't need to know everything that's going on right now. You actually don't. Yeah, I probably would have just read magazines and read a memoir.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yeah, you would be reading a book or talking to people and your family or your friends or your partner. You would be outside. you would be doing something with your hands. There are other things that people did, so many other things that were so much more valuable than looking at your Twitter. Then live tweet jokes.
Starting point is 00:39:54 By the way, I love the internet. I grew up on the internet, but I can identify this thing that is definitely unhealthy and bad, and I long for the day when I no longer need it. Look, I think when Trump is out of office, I mean, I'll still have the job that I have, but I think when Trump is out of office, I think I'll probably sort of retire
Starting point is 00:40:14 from looking at Twitter ever from the most part. We'll see if he's out of office anytime soon. You'll just trust President DeBlasio to take care of it. President, build the Blasio could do whatever he wants, to whoever he wants, whenever he wants. It's Rose, I'm concerned. All right, what else is going on? They're making a normal people TV show
Starting point is 00:40:33 for all you rune hounds. They're making a TV show out of the normal people novel by Sally Rooney. Yeah, it's on Hula. That seems, that's like it needs a show. It's not that long of a book, it's like 200 pages. It's like a movie. People love a millennial love story.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I get it, you could definitely do like 10 episodes of that. Yeah, it's fine, I wouldn't call it a love story. It's a love story. It's very nice, you should all read it. People, I've had people, I've recommended people and they've read it and they're like, I hate this. And it's like, well, she doesn't use quotation marks. The worst feeling in the whole world is when you show someone
Starting point is 00:41:02 at TV show and they go to the bathroom and they're like, you don't have to pause it. That's Laura every night we're watching something. We're when John watches five seconds of a YouTube video and he goes, no I get it. Yeah, that's like Laura. Now Laura, like we were watching Captain Marvel. Yeah. I'm talking about Captain Marvel.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Oh yeah, you finally saw Captain Marvel. Laura's like, I was like, I was like, do I need to pause it? She's like, it's fine. I'm like, you literally don't aren't seeing any. She's like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,
Starting point is 00:41:30 I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,
Starting point is 00:41:38 I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like'm honestly it felt kind of like mostly when I was watching, I was like, this is sort of like an episode of the next generation.
Starting point is 00:41:50 They're like helping these refugees, these weird, very star trek looking refugees, like get to like a refugee planet or whatever. The whole thing was very, I was like, are these aliens supposed to be Palestinians or Jews? Please don't answer. Nobody ever tell me which is supposed to be. The whole thing was extremely contrived. It was like, it just like, it required us to, first of the scrolls were like bad guys
Starting point is 00:42:15 in the earlier movies, right? And now we're like, oh, we're sympathizing with them. Like they're not just hordes of random, whatever. But it's like fine, cool. What bothered me first of is that the main scroll has an Australian accent. Like you very pronounced Australian accent. Yeah. He's like,, cool. What bothered me first up is that the main scroll has an Australian accent. Like, he very pronounced Australian accent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:27 He's like, I'm a scroll. Well, everyone in the, put another shrimp on the Bobby. Everyone in the universe speaks fluent English. I have no explanation to that. As you know, I'm a scroll. Anyhow, but I'm like, yeah, I mean, I'm like, could you do like an accent of some type that's unidentifiable?
Starting point is 00:42:39 Like, I don't, like, it's bad for me that I'm like, you're an Australian guy in a costume. Like, do a thing, do like a scroll voice. Be like, armor scroll, I'm from, I'm not from Australia, or something like that, I'm just saying. But then, but then also, like, I don't know, the backstory is pretty weak. Honestly, I read up on Captain Marvel too, after the movie.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah, it's a messy, it's a messy. But Captain Marvel doesn't have a good backstory. No, it's a messy. But Captain Marvel doesn't have a good backstory. No, it's a messy canon. They made something kind of better out of it, but it's not a strong one. She's definitely, also, like, she's, she was in a relationship with the other woman in the movie, right? I mean, are they like winking?
Starting point is 00:43:17 What's the weird winking you're doing? Why can't we just say that they're winking? Yeah, can't she have just been the her girlfriend? Just be lesbian. But why can't, why can't, it's like, why do I have to be like maybe it's it's I'll tell you from personal experience it's much easier to just be gay than it is to dance around with undertones and have room. So the other actress La
Starting point is 00:43:35 Shauna Lynch who plays I think her name is is it Monica Maria Rambo is that her name? Yeah mother of Monica Rambo. Okay, that's the mother of Monica. Okay, so anyhow. It's like, also a net-bending huge lesbian energy in this movie. A lot of lesbian energy, but the point is, you know, they clearly have like this like deep, very emotional connection, but it is, honestly, it's like the Mueller, it's the Mueller test, it's like the Mueller thing
Starting point is 00:44:03 of relationships and movies where it's like he comes out, he's like, I'm not saying he didn't do it, but I'm not saying he did it. And they're like, we're not saying they're gay, but we're not saying they're not gay. And it's like, are they gay or not? Like, what's up with this relationship? I don't have any friendships like that. It's 2019. And we cannot make another Joe Schumacher Batman and Robin just have them kiss or don't do that. Okay. If Robin were not gay. In the Batman and Robin, Joe Schumacher Batman and Robin just have them kiss or don't do back in the Robin were not gay. In the Batman and Robin Joel Schumacher movie, they were pretty gay. Well, I think that's maybe I don't know about that. But in the comic books, that Robin
Starting point is 00:44:34 wakes up in Batman's bed most times. And I will say that we've all been there. That's fine for the 90s. You're doing a little wink and a nod at this sensibility. And at this point, if you're doing an original new backstory for an existing character and you're gonna make her basically be a lesbian but not say it, it's 2019 Marvel. I think it's much more explosive to make Batman gay than it is to make Captain Marvel. If you're gonna make a movie that's filled with gay, I'm just saying imagery.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I'm just saying it's annoying that you're gonna make a movie that's filled with gay illusions and imagery. I'm just saying it's annoying that like you're gonna try to like have it both ways. Yes, that's what I mean. Yes. Don't have it both ways. No, have it one way or the other way. Yeah, this is not. Or it'd be bisexual. I have it both ways.
Starting point is 00:45:16 It's not Burger King. When they're old thing, it's like have it your way. Yeah. You can't have it your way. Have it a way. Have it someone way. Yeah. You can't have it your way. Have it a way. Have it someone's way. Anyhow, so it seemed like they were lovers in a relationship. They were they were lesbian lovers in a relationship raising a beautiful daughter raising a beautiful the spunky fun kid, but
Starting point is 00:45:38 I guess we'll have to wait for the next Captain Marvel movie to see the big reveal where they kiss or something. But it's like, yeah, honestly, it's like the, oh, oh, okay, but okay, let me just say, I'm gonna finish the Captain Marvel thing. I thought it was a very mediocre Marvel movie. But don't you, doesn't it, if frustrated, it frustrates me the way that the female ghost busters did, where it's like, listen, you shouldn't have to be perfect.
Starting point is 00:46:02 It shouldn't have to be a perfect movie in order to come out with women in it. But we live in the world, we live in. And if you're gonna do your first female superhero movie, it better be fucking amazing. I don't know, I think it's just like, because if you're just gonna do the one, you gotta do it really well.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I hated the 90s shit too, it was so heavy-handed. It was so heavy. It was like all the 90s things, all at once. It's like, here's a Game Boy and Gwen Stefani. And a 90s nail shirt and, you know, you guys like jukeboxes? Yeah, they'reEars-Nale shirt and, you know, like... You guys like ju boxes? Yeah, they're like, you heard of, I don't know, whatever. Blockbuster? Yeah, blockbuster, right?
Starting point is 00:46:30 It's like, okay, we get it. It's in the nine days. No, but he's got a cell phone. Also, she's like, like, hot wiring things and like doing intergalactic communication with Jude Law, who by the way, Jude Laws 100% evil from the second he comes on screen. He's right. Like, you can't do it.
Starting point is 00:46:43 You think you couldn't even find an actor who could pull off not being actually the bad guy? Sorry, spoiler alert. But if you've seen one frame of Jude Law and Captain Marvel, you don't need to, you're not getting spoiled. But like Jude Law, a net-bending, Lee Pace, this was big, homo-energy.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Okay, yeah, the Lee Pace thing was interesting sort of. Yeah, like, does he even show up? He just in the background. He comes back and, yes He's just in the background. He comes back and, yes, he's in the background and then he's here. Is this a fight? And then he's like, no, he's like, we're scared of her.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Well, you know, she was like, get out of here. You get out of town. And then he comes back and guardians of the galaxy. Right. And he's like, is he trying to kill all the scrolls? Is that what he's doing? Or is he trying to kill the Cree? God, it's so stupid, who knows, who cares? It's also dumb, I'm sorry, it just is.
Starting point is 00:47:29 This reminded me, it like snapped me back. I was like, wow, like Avengers Infinity War and Endgame, truly a monumental piece of filmmaking. And then it's like snapped me back to like the old Marvel, like Thor Dark World shit, where I'm like, these movies are fucking incoherent. Like, this is a pretty incoherent movie. Yeah, it gave me a lot of like amazing Spider-Man vibe.
Starting point is 00:47:47 For the record, it's not the worst. No. It's similar to Brelarson where I'm like, you're okay at your job. Brelarson is very good in short term 12, great film. We're good at your job. I haven't seen Rue, my hair she's incredible in it. I don't, it seems really depressing.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Anyhow, let's move on. We gotta get, we gotta get, now that we've discussed this movie from several months ago. Oh no, wait, can I. We gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta get, we gotta Norman Lear's classic, absolutely terrible TV show, all in the family. Not a terrible TV show. It will, you'll be reminded of actually how annoying and bad it does not hold up.
Starting point is 00:48:31 And they're like, they're facing the issue. They're facing the issue. Yeah, I get it, whatever. Okay, cool. So was the landline when they invented it. But like, if we wanted to be woke about things, we would have to discount John Waters. Okay, so.
Starting point is 00:48:42 So anyway, so they So, so, anyway. So they redid episodes of All in the Family, and the Jefferson's. I didn't watch it. I couldn't get through the whole All in the Family episode, which was very, first of, I know they were made in the 70s. And I know Archie Bunker is supposed to be a racist person,
Starting point is 00:49:01 but it is really crazy how racist he is in the shit that he says that was like, this is on a comedy show on like eight o'clock on Thursday night or whatever. The other thing is, here's what actually disturbed me more about Archie Bunker. First of all, he's an odious person, like a really garbage person.
Starting point is 00:49:21 He's played by Woody Harrelson who cannot do a Brooklyn accent to save his life. It is he's doing some kind of weird Cockney accent. It's insane. Breaking news. It's Archie Bunker. I'm pleasant. Yeah. No. But not okay. But like, but, but he's like 100% abusive. Like, oh, yeah. Full on abusive to his wife. Yeah. And his daughter. But mostly his wife. Anyhow, I was just supposed to be watching. I'm like, well, at first I was like, this is an amazing idea. And then like 10 minutes in, I was like, this is fucking great and stupid and insulting
Starting point is 00:49:50 my intelligence and I need to turn it off. Also Woody Harrelson cannot do a Brooklyn accent and it's trying to be fucking up a wall. If you are itching for older sitcoms being analyzed through their like cultural revolutionary lens, especially progressive politics and the way we had conversations and the surprising depth and intelligence that issues were dealt with, and also the like, hamphisted, you had no idea what you were doing, stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Check out Matt Baum on YouTube, he does this series called Culture Cruise, where he breaks down episodes of like Golden Girls, or I love Lucy, and their huge progressive politics and the huge gains made by those artists and also the way that they like don't understand how being gay works or that like black people
Starting point is 00:50:33 don't want you to condescend to them with how woke you've become in 20 minutes. But they're big gains and it's a nice critical analysis so you would be able to revisit those things and reflect on them with some context and discussion by an intelligent person, which is probably what they were going for, but it ends up network TV isn't very good.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Yeah, I mean, I think it's good to end up promo the Darmann Greg podcast that I've been doing, which kind of analyzes the social and class structures presented in the show in the hit TV show Darmann Greg. Darmann, of course, is a Jewish girl from a liberal hippie family. Okay. And Greg is, he's like a stockbroker from a wasp white ass family, and they fall in love in one day and get married.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And they have adventures together, but really it speaks to the class struggle in America. And you can tune in Thursdays at noon each episode is released. And it's called the, it's called, mix signals. And I think you'll really enjoy it. And now, as Ariana said on Vanderbrols, I take sketch comedy very seriously. And it upsets me when people think they can just like,
Starting point is 00:51:42 do it. You should do sketch comedy. She took a few UCB classes and worked at College Humor for a summer. And someone else on the show was like, I'm going to do a stand-up. And she was like, that's really offensive to me as an artist. And she's like, I have a philosopher. Built a career in a life around comedy. And you are...
Starting point is 00:51:59 She was like, satire is basically a core part of my mind. Wow, she said that. That's incredible. Alright, let's do nice things nice things Oh my god, wait a second. Do I have nice things? I have a lot of nice. Can you like whittle it down to like no a baker's dozen Yeah, it is a baker's cake. Go ahead. Do your nice things the Twilight Zone wrapped up its first season It's not perfect, but I and it's a little Ham-handed the politics are a little
Starting point is 00:52:24 Obvious for especially for Jordan peel, but there's one episode worth it with the video camera. Yeah, whoo That is some heavy it was good entertaining. There's also good performances and there's better episodes The Twilight Zone remake which I would still be watching if I hadn't canceled my CVS subscription Does have some redeeming qualities. It does there are some pretty good episodes I'm happy that it exists and I'm excited to see what they do next season and CVS subscription does have some redeeming qualities. It does. There are some pretty good episodes. I'm happy that it exists and I'm excited to see what they do next season. And it was, it was, it's fine. On the scale of the horrible things I've watched on the internet, I saw Booksmart and Aladdin
Starting point is 00:52:57 as a double feature. Booksmart was the fucking funniest, tightest, best movie I have seen in so long. I heard it's a big bomb. Also, I heard the politics are very... It was a central, centrist politics. Everybody shut up. It was amazing. Wow, really.
Starting point is 00:53:10 So fun. I'm hearing, I'm happy. It's bad. Lapt to the point of crying, and I stared at John most of that movie just because I was in disbelief of what we were watching. It was so good. John was like, I'm not into this.
Starting point is 00:53:20 He loved it. He loved it. Okay, I'm crying. I've heard bad things about it. Aladdin. Also, I don't care, I've heard bad things about it. Aladdin. Also, I don't care, I guess, about Booksmart. Aladdin was super interesting to me. I cannot believe you went, you paid money to see Aladdin. It is my favorite animated movie and was the first movie I ever saw in a movie theater.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Me and my dad sat in the front row because I thought that that would make it better when I was a kid. So John and I sat pretty closely into an IMEX screening to kind of like have our moment. And it was weird because there are things in it that are really good and there are things in it that are so bad, so laughably irredeemable. And it really frustrated me because- Right, I'm a guy, Richie. Who has done good film. But he's bad. He's bad.
Starting point is 00:54:05 He doesn't under shot homes. Moons are good. Culture. The culture he's dealing with. He doesn't understand the point of these Disney films or the dynamics of play. And Will Smith is horribly miscast, but Naomi Scott was amazing. She's a spitting image of Sarah Michelle Geller as in the best way. I could possibly say that.
Starting point is 00:54:21 And I, I would say it's worth watching. It just go in with the, I went in with the lowest expectations. Like I was actively saying this is gonna be terrible right as it started. And then I walked out and went, yeah, that's kind of scoundering. But do you think that helped?
Starting point is 00:54:36 Do you think that helped? Yeah, go in with just assuming that it's gonna be the worst thing you've ever seen. And then you'll be like, oh, okay, that was a little fun. So there's that the song, Money by Lake Kelly 47, which has spelled L-E-I-K-E-L-I-47, was featured in Booksmart. And now I'm obsessed with this rapper. So check her out. Charlie X-E-X Diplo and Herve Page dropped remix of the, like a, like a sampled remix of wannabe by the Spice Girls called spicy,
Starting point is 00:55:06 which also blew my fucking mind and the video is on 90s CGI and like Lisa Frank stuff but not in a Katy Perry way. It's very like space meets dolphins in a cool way and I'm having a lot of fun with that. And then my main nice thing this week was that last week I for the first time, had a cosmetic procedure done. I got... New did. Yes. I've had a lot of like loss of volume in my skin around my mouth. I've run out of my family sort of ages the exact same way.
Starting point is 00:55:36 So I had a little bit of filler put into my smile lines and the lion now. A little bit in my top lip. Ryan. And to prosettle, you didn't even notice, but it helped erase those lines, and I... But and I'm mad now I feel really good about it and I Especially somebody that has like struggled with my personal appearance and control over my bodily autonomy Same it made me feel oh the first part not the second it made me feel really good
Starting point is 00:55:59 Wow, you made me feel bad for cinema set. It was a cheap easy way to... What are we talking about? How much? It's spent 600 bucks. When I saw filler in this list, I thought you were like, you know, just like stuff like that doesn't like, you know, like the stuff like in between like a TV show, which is like nonsense. No, I, I, uh, I'm an actual, I'm an actual dermal filler. Humanity's accomplishments, fire, the wheel, microchip, dermal filler. Humanity's accomplishments fire the wheel, microchip, dermal filler. I loved it. And frankly, if you're in consultation with a very good doctor and it's something minor
Starting point is 00:56:34 in subtle that isn't going to break your bank, I said go for it. It made me feel very happy in the way that a good outfit and stuff does. And I had a lot of mishagas about whether I was conforming to society standard. And frankly, it took two seconds and I had a lot of mishagas about whether I was conforming to society's standard. Frankly, it took two seconds and I feel great. So go and get the filler, especially if you're a dude. I gotta say. Because women have license to take pride in their appearance and care about their bodies.
Starting point is 00:56:55 To figure yourself out. To figure yourself out. To figure yourself out. To figure yourself out. I've been thinking about getting my knees removed and you've given me the encouragement to just get rid of them. What do I need them for? Everything I have earnestly set on this episode,
Starting point is 00:57:08 you have no time for it. I'm sorry, I'm a bad person who stinks. Well, if the listener hates me, then they'll love you. I could finally slide under a door without hitting my head. It's gonna be great. I can't bend my legs anymore, but I look very lean with no knees, I think. So that's just an idea.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Getting a bunch of light, you're madty, madty. No, look, I'm sorry, I didn't do that. You're entitled to your own opinion. I think. So that's just an idea. Again, a bunch of life. You're madty, bad of a. No, look, I'm sorry. I didn't know you got your own opinion. I didn't know you got plastic surgery. It wasn't plastic surgery. Well, that's what I'm gonna have to do. I'll be referring to it as plastic surgery.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Although I just went in to get my lips moved and then they were like, come on, I'm gonna do the lines and I was like, how much is that? I was like 200 bucks, so I did it. This is out of control. Is it my turn to do nice things? I guess. You don't have anything nice.
Starting point is 00:57:50 The listener is unaware. Josh takes a solid 15 minutes to come up with a one night thing. Did I do the, I didn't have it the one plus seven, did I? Yes, you did. Did I do this a nice thing? You did an extended segment about it last week. Unless you have something new to ask. Oh, I got a nice thing.
Starting point is 00:58:06 You ready? It's not that nice. I got a nice thing, it's not that nice. Neither am I. I started reading Stephen King's The Stand. Oh, okay. The stand in its original form was about 1,000 pages long, but then about 20 years ago or 15 years ago,
Starting point is 00:58:24 Stephen King was like, actually, my publisher made me cut 400 pages from this because they couldn't sell the book because it'd be so expensive. And then they added it back in. So there's a 1400 page version of the stand. And it is so fucking good. It is 47 hours on audio book.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Oh my God. The book itself is like two bricks. It's like two bricks from a house put together. And it is a universe. First off, it is set in the 90s. It is set in like 1990. It is fucking absolutely terrifying. I'm only like 10 chapters in or something.
Starting point is 00:59:03 And there's, I guess, I don't know, 5,000 chapters. This is a book that's all about Jenny McCarthy. Have you read it? And there were, no. Have you seen the miniseries? No, no, no, no. I mean, I don't know, but I remember the miniseries very.
Starting point is 00:59:15 I remember the miniseries. The basic has it on tape. This is the basic premise of the VHS. It's very, very fucking rip from the headlines. Okay. The basic premise is, and fucking rip from the headlines. Okay. The basic premise is, and I don't know all of it. Jenny McCarthy gets no vaccines done. A on a US Army base, a lethal strain of the flu
Starting point is 00:59:36 is accidentally released to the general population. Gen pop. Yeah, Gen pop. I'm only in the part where it's spreading. Drag name Jen pop. It is Jen pop, really good. It's very good. Just really, really good.
Starting point is 00:59:50 You should use that. He patented it here, market down, right now. You win drag race with that name. You only $100,000. That's exactly right. At least. Anyhow, it is fucking, it is terrifying. It is emotional. it is funny.
Starting point is 01:00:07 That's even King Can write a book. And it's the whole, it's a whole world. Like he's so good at like, I'm like, I'm in this fucking world. He's a world builder. It is like, when I've been, I've been mostly listening to it, I've been reading it a little bit
Starting point is 01:00:16 but like listening to the audio book because you know, I commute. You tag team. And I do, that's right, I tag team it. And it's just like, you're in a whole fucking, just a whole world. And it is so scary and good. Anyhow, this stand, that's it, that's my nice thing.
Starting point is 01:00:31 It's a book about the apocalypse. Mike dropped, that's right, that's exactly right. All right, we gotta wrap it. I have to go get a drink. Yeah, me too. I need one bad, it's hot and here. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best, though I've just been told that
Starting point is 01:01:14 your family has been spotted on Air Force radar and the orders are shoot to kill. you

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