Tomorrow - 166: Don't Cancel Keanu
Episode Date: June 15, 2019Josh and Ryan have one request before the world continues it'd descent into madness: Please do not cancel Keanu Reeves. Please. Keanu Reeves is the closet thing we have to Mr. Rogers and we already do...n't deserve him as it is. They're also still angry about YouTube, extremely hyped up for the TurboGrafx-16 Mini, and disappointed in the X-Men. Episode 166. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host, Joshua Topolsky. Today on the podcast, we discuss the TurboGraphics, Real Dolls, and Synthetic Meat.
I don't always want to minute.
Let's get right into it.
All right, Ryan, we're back.
We're back.
It's June 13th.
You can tell by the sweat.
That's the date they were recording this.
Today was very mild.
Oh, mild, right now.
Anything over like 62 degrees, I'm sweating.
Yeah, you're like Laura.
Like Laura and Zalda just,
Zalda defined this as medium.
She wants medium.
She's like, I don't like it when it's hot.
I like medium.
And I'm like, I'm like, yeah.
I like, I want it to be hot,
so hot that I could be
in the nude outdoors and still be uncomfortably warm. That's what I'm looking for. I want it to be
like a sauna. I want it to be 95 fucking degrees. No. Every day. No. Yes. No. So tired of this weather.
I want it to be warm. I like like late October into November. Where like you throw a,
I like late October into November where you throw a
throw like a hoodie on. No, but like, I just like cozy.
Somebody's like, here's some cider and it's hot
and you're like, oh, that warmed me up.
Okay, that's nice, that's great.
That's great.
Okay, that's really wonderful.
That's a, that's a good,
I fucking hate sweating.
I don't like being outside.
Right, you don't like this, you go.
I'm so happy, I hate mosquitoes too.
I'm with you on that, but you know it's wonderful.
The sun, the trees with the leaves, the grass growing,
the birds chirping, the flowers in bloom, the fragrant,
the odor of white lilacs,
a wafting through the air.
All I smell are come trees.
Okay, that's because you live in New York,
out in the country where I am.
Even with the one or two. White lilacs when I was real thin. Like, out in the country where I am. No, even with the one or two,
White Lye Lacks when I was real thin.
Like, have the beginning of the abs then.
I thought, this is gonna unlock summer.
I wouldn't mind if I wouldn't know anything about that.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna live it up.
And it was like the era of like loud dance music
that was like, we're going to the beach.
And I was like, I'm gonna, this is my summer.
We put on Katy Perry and I got in the car
and I was like, no, I just hate summer.
It has nothing to do with my body.
You know what I'm gonna do with like,
like in the beach or flying to the scene.
It just ends up I hate summer.
Look, okay, I hear what you're saying,
but I would rather it be winter.
I think you're wrong and that's a disgusting attitude
and I am very offended by it and I hate you for saying it.
This is, by the way, I mean, you're getting your wish,
global warming.
I don't want the global situation to get hotter.
I do want to be in warmer weather more often.
Yeah.
Okay.
And I'm not going to Florida.
This is a good buy to all that podcast.
Josh will go to LA.
God, yes.
It goes well.
Yes, I'm ready.
I'm 100% ready to go to LA.
I'm just it's all my whole life is about trying to figure out a way to get to LA.
I hold existence.
It's not geared towards how do I get to LA immediately?
It's like an hate it there.
Josh Hollywood.
Josh Hollywood.
Anyhow.
Anyhow.
Okay, so we're back.
It's another week.
A lot of shit going on.
Crazy ass week.
I mean, E3's happening.
There's some massive political shit going down.
Joe Rogan, I assume did something or... When is he not?
I don't know.
I'm just like...
A bunch of tech things happening.
We already talked about Apple stuff last week.
There's not much to say there.
Where's your list?
I mean, they're killing Lightning.
Good idea.
Lightning will never die.
This is why a rumor that Apple's gonna kill the lightning.
Yeah. It's the most annoying.
It's such an obnoxious.
It's such a...
It was good when they first introduced it,
but we're at a point. It was good.
They were like, you could do either side.
It's like, that was a pretty big improvement
on what we'd been doing.
It's kind of amazing. It's kind of amazing
that when they came up with like, you know,
like, so outlets used to not have the little one in the big one. And then they changed that.
I'm not exactly sure why I don't remember what the reason is. There's some technical grounding
or like kids, voltage, children or something. But anyhow, but you think like when something makes
a connector like the headphone jack is like, you can plug it in however you want.
It's spherical.
Yeah.
It's circular.
It's like, you can.
Apple's original I bought one.
Like, you need to de-squeeze two things,
push it in the right angle.
Yes, it was like, they were like this,
this like, you're gonna have the time to save.
You're gonna plug in a lot and it can easily be easily dislodged,
so we need to make sure that.
And then they have it.
The whole life, but then Apple had the brilliant idea of doing the mag the magnetic connector
What do they call mag they mag safe and that was not that was great single side
You got you put that in either direction anyway, they made like nine versions of it
So you'd be like do you have a charger? Yeah, they sold that little adapter
There was like a couple years ago to have this like literally it's the size of a like a like a fingernail clipping
And it's like this is a, like a fingernail clipping.
And it's like, this is a thing to adapt your old charger
to this new charger.
Slightly different one.
Literally, like literally no different.
Like there was no feature.
No, no, they just like, they just changed the shapes
so they could sell you the adapter and or a new charger.
But the interesting thing is,
they knew that it was good to be able to plug it in,
however, without thinking about it.
And then they made the lightning,
which is, does the lightning counter makes a lot of sense,
but it's insane that other,
that we've, like the, when they made USB,
they're like, it'll just go in one way.
And if you don't put it in that way,
you will break, that you'll snap the plastic inside of it, okay?
Yeah.
Like, it's a very frustrating thing to,
like all the USBs that proceed USB-C, like micro USB and all that.
Micro is honestly comical.
Micro is insane because it's like you can't even see.
No, you're just like scratching up the bottom of your police station Vita.
It's a sh-of- Yes, mini USB is the bigger one, which at least you can see where it goes.
Yeah. But micro is like, it's a job.
They're trying to get you to destroy the connector basically.
But anyhow, scratch things up.
But so USB-C is amazing.
It's gonna be great.
And they're doing square cameras.
Everything's getting a square camera.
Everything I have is USB-C now and I love it.
iPhone.
Anyhow, so yeah, so then, okay.
So then, so the new iPhone's gonna have a square camera.
It's a square camera block or whatever.
But apparently the Pixel 4 is going to have a square camera block.
Here's the thing, okay, let's set my Pixel 4 for a second.
So people are like leaking it.
Like we got like a leak design or a leak render or whatever.
And then Google's like, oh, here's the phone.
Just like put it out there.
Which I have to say is very radio head of the phone.
It's the fucking move.
That's the move now.
That's the, the ante has been up.
It's the bathos.
They're like, yeah, it's a phone.
Here's what it looks like.
Big fucking deal.
Wait, do you see what it does?
Now, I'm like excited.
By the way, I'm missing my pixel a lot.
Although I have to say, the OnePlus has some very interesting features
that I do enjoy.
I do miss my pixel and I think, oh, y'all get one.
I guess I'm not going to get the screen fixed
on the one that I have.
No.
I'm going to wait to get the four.
Mm-hmm.
Which I hope they release sooner than October.
They always release the October.
And October's a long fucking time from now.
Yeah.
So why are you showing us the phone
if you're releasing shit in October?
I'm kind of cut off those leakers.
I'm fucking me, Google.
Anyhow, so they showed it, it's got a square
that looks exactly like the back of the new iPhone,
apparently.
Yeah. I've got a vice versa.
The new notch.
Who cares?
If it has a notch, I'm going to go fucking ballistic.
Notches are bullshit.
Now, I'll say something I learned from the OnePlus 7 Pro, which is too many names.
You don't need a notch.
You don't even need a fucking display camera.
You need a little machine mechanical camera
that pops up from the top of the phone.
And you know, many times I've used it
since I've had the phone, like one time
to do some selfies with Zelda.
I just am not using that camera.
It's not something I'm investing in.
And anyhow, so I really like, I'm loving not having to notch at all,
and not having to thought, and not having to worry about my display being broken
by disgusting holes, camera holes.
All right, I'm done. I'm done ranting.
Well, do you want to talk about E3?
Because there's something you do like.
I got a lot to say about the Nintendo presentation, by the way.
Oh, I was talking about the mini TurboGraphic 16 PC Engine.
Okay, let's talk about that for a second.
So, Konami of all people, which apparently owns now-
You're ramping about how you hate mini consoles and all it's gone.
Okay, okay, okay. Here's what I will say.
Here's what I'm going to deliver for you right now.
Truth bomb.
Truth bomb that you're going to have to receive and enjoy it.
Detonate.
It's good.
Detonate.
It your brain.
The turbo graphics 16 mini is like a whole different level of mini
console.
Do you know why?
Why?
Because that fucker plays CD games.
Okay.
Ease book one and two available on the American version and the Japanese version.
Dracula X is on the Japanese version.
That's a super CD game.
They got to bring that over.
So I'm obviously going to buy the Japanese one.
If there's an English language option on it
because if there isn't, and it will be hackable,
I would hope, but the fucking point is,
if it has the ROMs to play CD's,
now that opens up the whole world of content.
There's so much great CD content,
and it's so it's different than the NES
where it's like, here's some NES games.
I mean, basically they're kinda like going,
there's sort of like, here's the mini Genesis,
but also it can play like Saturn games.
Yeah, or Sega CD.
Or Sega CD, which I don't think it does, or 32X.
But like that's cool, to me that makes it worth it.
Yeah.
Well, the PlayStation Classic, which is like 30 bucks,
runs a lot of shit.
Like it's a pretty powerful thing,
but it requires some hacking.
You have to hack it.
But what's interesting is like it's really hard to play C.
You need to piece a shit on its own.
Like a lot of the emulators you can get for,
like I have, here's a good example of some of the
problems I bought a Sega CD game in emulation is requires you to solve this thing like puzzle
and it's tough you got to get the wrong you got to get the national treasure back of the
Constitution and like a glow light and then you have there seen it you have to dig up somewhere
and then there's a sonic head made of gold and you pop it open and then in there is a chow and you have to talk to the chow and solve its riddles three
then you can play.
Then you can snatch it.
Then you can finally play.
I actually did play the Sega CD version of Snatcher and it was a pan in the ass.
I had to do it on PC or whatever.
But like, but the thing that's interesting about the TurboGraphy is like I bought a Turbo
Duo which is the Japanese version of the second version of...
So the TurboGraphy was released, there was the TurboGraphy 16, and then it had a CD-ROM attachment.
You could slide a CD-ROM player on the back of it, and that gave you CD capabilities.
But then they released a thing called the Turbo Duo, which was the whole console
was all like it was like a CD and the Hugh card slot. This is such a cool thing that some
of you will care about. The cards were cool though. The cards were cool, but then you needed
to play later stage CD games to had a different ROM with more memory. You needed the later,
the later, so the way you play the CD games with the later ones
is you put a Hugh card in the Hugh card slot
that was like the drivers essentially
or like the storage for the CD.
Like an expansion pack.
Yeah.
So I bought a Turbo Duo Japanese mod
and Turbo Duo to play on my TV, like a real one.
And I got this card, which is called,
I can't think of the name of it now,
but it's a card that's like you can stick a micro SD card into, but it's a huge card.
It can ever drive. It's an ever drive. It's an ever drive. It's a choreographics ever drive.
Anyhow, so, so then, so you can put CD games on it. That's cool. But the CD games on an
actual console won't play because they have to boot the ROM from the huge card. And then
you boot the CD game like through that or onto that or with that,
but you can't do it because it's already running the ROM
so you have to have the physical CD to play it.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Yes, that's a nice one.
So yes, it's a nightmare,
even though I have the hardware, okay?
So or I'd have to go get the card,
the CD, ROM, the original ROM card and the CD.
I actually do own somewhere, I have a cuff, fucking copy.
And then just to put out an HDMI, you need like a frame, my,
well, I have a frame, my, no, yes, it's a $700 setup, okay?
It's a ridiculous, no, I, well, you can't play Snatcher.
Well, there is a, there's a Japanese language version of Snatcher for the
TurboGraphics. You can't play, there's no English translation because they didn't
have a variety of that. So this is huge for you.
Then everybody out, well, it's huge is, well, they're not gonna really,
if they release Snatcher with an English language translation,
that would be a fucking showstopper.
What I also would like them to release is a game
called Dead of the Brain.
Dead of the Brain is a game that came out.
I believe for the MSX originally,
and then was like ported to the TurboGravix.
My name is TurboGravix originally,
it's a Japanese game, which is like a zombie,
it's like a survival horror, like zombie murder mystery,
which is very similar to Snatcher.
Dead to the brain one and two, which is what they're called.
But like there are literally videos of like people
playing through the game and like translating.
Anyhow, this is all, I'm worried about way down
a fucking rabbit hole.
My point is, I think that the mini,
the TurboGraphics Mini has extra value
because you can play fucking CD games on it,
which means it has the ROM to play CD games, which means I can at some point
Hack it to put Dracula X and any other fucking game I want and play that shit and that's gonna rip. Yeah, and that and there ends my rant about how I will be buying all of the different versions.
Well, before we move on, you know in Japan and in Europe, it's a different console. Yeah, in Japan, it's the PC engine and in Europe, it's the fucking like mega drink. Not a core core graphics. Or whatever. PC engine. Yeah. Um, they just looked
different though. I might have to buy the family super family come. Uh, many because it's
looks much better. Does it have English language settings on it? Yeah. Oh, okay. So then
they'll probably that'll probably be the same for this. Yeah. Um, I'm gonna buy every
mini console that comes out before I move on from it. I will say I saw a commercial for PS4 last night.
It emphasizes it says, like, come to PlayStation for exclusive retro content.
And I was like, retro games are in commercials.
Like, it's a selling point for the concept.
My people will rise.
I mean, I wrote this thing about this game, Nareda Boy,
which is currently in development.
I just got an update about it.
It looks fucking awesome.
It's a Kickstarter project. And you know, they were like, oh, if we hit our 200, and it looks fucking awesome. It's a Kickstarter project.
And you know, they were like,
oh, if we hit our $200,000 goal,
we'll do a Switch port.
I'm like, you better fucking do a Switch port for this
because it's like really a perfect Switch game
for what I can tell.
But I wrote this thing about the true video game,
a static, this is like a couple years ago
when the Kickstarter was out or whatever.
But I do think that's interesting that we continue to,
we continue to be excited about and gravitate towards
games that look like, that don't look like new games. I mean, there's new versions of them,
but the graphics are kind of grounded in the art of eight and 16-bit games from RER youth.
But for many people who play games who love those games, this is their experiencing this as
their in their youth, Yeah, experiencing like the retro version
Well, that art side got really refined and there's not a ton of places to go with 2d besides that
You know what I mean? And the pixel gives you a like nice little limitation or like a signature style to work with it
like I was yeah, I'm throwing around the idea just working on like on the side like a funny little game project and
We were talking about it and you were talking about
like doing it as a AAA.
And I was like, but I think the aesthetic I would want
to work in is a retro game for some reason.
Even playing retro, the retro versions of Pokemon,
which we should talk about what's going on with Pokemon,
it's better because it leaves some of it to your imagination.
You get like the suggestion of the Pokemon,
but like in your imagination it can be like the cool,
realistic monster that you're battling. But when you actually have the 3D models of the Pokemon, but in your imagination, it can be the cool, realistic monster
that you're battling,
but when you actually have the 3D models in the games,
it's like, this is so cutesy and cartoony
and it doesn't just a little disappointing.
There's something about the imagination's being taken away.
It's like if a book had every character
and every single location illustrated in it,
graphic novels are graphic novels,
but a novel functions on its own
because a lot of it's in your imagination.
Right.
So like it's like when you first saw Harry Potter and you're like, I just didn't picture
this differently.
Yeah.
I didn't have that experience because I didn't read the book.
So I never knew the magic of Harry Potter.
Too busy with your rune hounding.
I find Harry Potter to be kind of a problematic character.
We can't get into this right now.
I'm not going to talk about it, but I have some problems with his whole-
Strengths moment. With his whole... Stransphobic.
No, I know, that's not at all what my critique is.
I mean, I can imagine it.
I see it.
There's a scene in Harry Potter
where all his friend's drink of potion
to look exactly like him.
And that means all his friends have seen his dick.
That's interesting.
Do you think they checked out there?
If you turned into someone else,
what's the first thing you're gonna do?
I don't know.
I would try to fool somebody to give me money.
I'd be like, it's me Harry Potter.
Can I have ten bucks?
I'm going to save the world.
I guess because that's my destiny.
I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm good and everybody knows it.
Not really.
It's her money.
Well, anyhow, I'm very excited about the choreographics, many.
Well, in other E3.
Yes.
Bombast.
So much E3 stuff.
Nintendo truly owned.
Did they?
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
Banjo, Kazooie, and Smash.
That does nothing for me.
I find most of Nintendo games to be totally uninteresting.
I'm sorry.
I don't get it.
I do not get the thing with Nintendo where people are like,
I like the new animal crossing. They fucking mind. No, I just don't get it. I do not get the thing with Nintendo where people are like, I like the new animal crossing.
I ain't fucking mine.
No, I just don't get it.
I just don't feel anything for fucking Donkey Kong.
I've no interest in talking to a say good kid.
I have no interest in Donkey Kong.
You know who rips Wonderboy?
Wonderboy gets no credit.
Wonderboy fucking rules.
Wonderboy, Wonderboy and Monster Land on the fucking master system
is a master piece.
It's also great on the Switch.
I was partial to Kid Camillean.
Kid Camillean was transphobic, I think everybody knows, and also got me two to a couple
years ago, so that's not cool.
Anyhow, okay.
So wait, getting that way, I wonder, oh.
We're just tails, Nintendo.
My old's tail's power has some opinions about Palestine.
Is that his phone, man?
Yeah.
Oh wow, that's unnecessary.
Oh, it's horrible.
Uh, the, the, the, the, um.
Nintendo owned, I'm sorry, gooey gee, animal crossing.
I don't know if it does anything for me.
The only thing I was remotely interested in was like,
whoa, Resident Evil, they're like Resident Evil's like,
yeah, Resident Evil,
Resident Evil, 5 and 6.
What is so weird? It's Resident Evil 5 and 6 and then Resident Evil 1, but like remaster in it. It was like, whoa, Resident Evil. They're like, Resident Evil's like, yeah, Resident. Five and six. What is so weird?
It's Resident Evil five and six, and then Resident Evil one,
but like remaster graphics, and it's like,
how about Resident Evil two?
But also what's sad about the Switch is they're like,
the Witcher three, it's like,
the Witcher three came out in 2014, guys.
Or like, wait, when did the Witcher, whoop.
But it is technically like a portable version.
So, I get it, it's cool.
I mean, I own so many copies of Skyrim.
I could play Skyrim in VR. I could play it on the toilet
I could play it on my phone like 2015
It's just like this like LA noir which I bought. I'm like, oh, yeah
This game I was playing like on my 360 or something and like now it's like I just wish it was I don't know
It's fine. I'm sure it's gonna look terrible. I mean the Witcher
The console version is really intense, right? Yeah.
I couldn't play because it's too complicated.
The Witcher, I don't have the time.
I'll talk about Skyrim in a second, but like,
this is, like the Witcher 3 I remember,
it's like, collect this bark, we've talked about this before.
It's like, it's like, one of the first things you do,
it's like, you need to get this bark and this other root
and it's like, dude, I can't be where I ride
and around looking for bark right now.
I have a life, I have a kid, I can't, you can't make me do, it was like, dude, I can't be riding around looking for bark right now. I have a life, I have a kid.
I can't, you can't make me do that.
It was like hours.
I mean, that was me heading along red dead where I was like,
I can't care for this horse anymore.
Oh no, I, I, I, I failed so hard out of red dead
because it's just like, you got a real,
you got base of it to be like, I quit my job.
My, I now have a career in,
I'm a cowboy.
I'm a cowboy, professional cowboy in professional cowboy in Red Dead Redemption 2.
You're a...
I, my horse is well cared for.
I've really, I've put a lot of money in the camp,
you know, everybody's eating well.
It's like, that's what I do for a living now.
I mean, like, you really have to commit.
It's just, I don't know who else has the time for this,
but it definitely, it definitely ain't me.
You're gonna, you're gonna put the time
into Cyberpunk 2077.
Well, okay, one of my fears about
so our great segue, by the way,
one of my fears about Cyberpunk 2077
is that it's gonna be too much like the Witcher,
which, no pun intended.
Which, again, I was like,
it's like this game looks cool and maybe it could be fun.
I mean, maybe I'll bust it out.
I haven't turned my Xbox on in like a long time.
Yeah, what?
I have no idea.
I bought my brother an Xbox one for his birthday
a couple of years ago, because that's like what I was playing
a lot, even though I had both.
And everybody I know is like, why did you get him an Xbox?
Like, PS, we all have PS4s.
Like, you know, like all the other friends in our friend group.
So I feel really bad. I think about getting a PT version of the PlayStation 4 and giving him mind just so I can play finally play PT. Yeah, I can. Seems like a bad idea. I should.
I'm like, oh, right. Well, I think you can play it without being logged in. Okay. Like I think
it's there. Another account. No, I think it's like, yeah, you can add another account, but I think it's there. Okay. I don't know. It seems
like a real fucking house. I don't want to deal with it, but I do want to play it. Not
this like recreation. I don't want to just like make it available. Anyhow, yeah, cyberpunk.
So my fear is first off, I mean, my fear is it's going to be a bad game. That's a big
fear. Why is that your fear? We've seen games. I mean, just said they, I mean, my fear is it's gonna be a bad game. That's a big fear.
Why is that your fear?
We've seen games, but it's just,
so me just said they, I mean, I just read a thing
on Paul Garner, Katak, or something,
they were like, they were like,
oh, the fighting, the in game bat,
a combat looks pretty bad.
And like the,
they are CD project is known for crunch.
So, yeah, but like, it's coming out in a year.
Do you know?
They're not rushing it. I
Mean for a game. Do you know when the first trailer for cyber about 27 was sure?
But I mean for a game that size like what a dragon age in position take seven years to I don't know if they're played is a good
It's great, but they took a very long time and they delayed it 2013
2013 January 10th, the beginning.
So what's been going on, that dude?
Not out.
2013.
This fucking trailer was released six years ago, six years.
Now, I know games take a long time.
Yeah.
It's going to be seven years in development.
Seven fucking years.
But you can get an acrylic bust of characters
you don't know anything about if you pre-order.
If I can't get a,
or two hundred, fifty bucks.
If I can't, if they don't have
swappable penises in this game,
I'm gonna lose my mind.
I wanna, I wanna,
I wanna Harry Potter's penis.
I wanna be able to put fucking like
a razor fingernails on my hands
and like a fucking fin.
I wanna fin,
I wanna have like,
I wanna have fucking dragon legs. Street sharks. Yeah. I want to have like a shark tail, a functional
a nano tech shark tail that does like scatter bombs. I don't know why wouldn't I know, couldn't
I just body mod myself into like a dinosaur inside repunked 2077? That's my interest.
That's what I'm interested with a detachable interest. That's what I'm interested in. We truly don't know. With a detachable penis, that's what I've interested in.
With a hot, swappable, just a set of jettos.
Almost eight years later, we truly don't know
if that's possible.
I know.
So, okay, so, so Rupunk 2777 is coming out next year.
Starring Kiana Reeves.
Okay, they bring Kiana Reeves out.
Kiana Reeves is just, I'm sorry, whatever's going on with him,
the man's just crushing it so hard right now.
I mean, Kiana Ree's has always been pretty cool.
But let's be clear, it's not like he suddenly became cool.
People like, didn't like Kennery's
because he had kind of a surferex in a couple of roles
and that was like, yeah.
He always played, but he also played like,
he was like the dumb guy.
Yeah.
He was like the world guy.
But Kenner's always been really cool.
You know, he's a very tragic story.
Do you know that Kennery says a tremendous tragedy?
No.
So I don't know if you know, but like,
Kennery was actually had like a kind of insane tragedy
in his life that I feel like nobody knows about
or talks about like.
What happened?
So in 1999, he was married to a woman named Jennifer Syme.
They had a kid who was eight months,
she was eight months pregnant and she gave birth
to a stillborn baby.
Oh dear God.
And then she got into, in 2001,
she was in like a car accident died.
And so like, he had this insane set of tragic things happen,
all like the Matrix came out. I don't know happen all like it's like
where like the matrix came out.
It's like, you know, well, no one's like height of
so like when he answered that question on the Colbert show
about like what happens after we die or whatever,
like I was like, oh, this is like actually like,
he definitely has like very personal,
like definitely very has a very personal like take
on this question, I'm sure.
Oh wait, actually, it's his girlfriend, not his wife.
Anyhow, but, but Kihonorees is just like,
there's just like a lot of stuff going out right now
that he's just getting back to the fun stuff.
John, the whole John Wick thing is, you know,
blowing up, like that's a huge thing.
There's this, that's amazing.
There's this thing going around this photo,
which is such an incredible photo
of Kiana Reeves posing for pictures with women
where he's not touching them.
Yeah, he's just hand around.
Like, I post for pictures of people
where I was actually just put my arm around them,
man, women, whatever,
because you can kind of just do that
when they'll put their arm around your shoulder
or whatever.
Kiana's been coached by somebody like this is definitely not his own idea, but
you know somebody is like, okay, Kiana, listen, it's really in the me too, era.
Do not fuck around.
I don't want to see hands on anything.
And he literally has his hands floating in the background of every picture.
He's like, I'm not touching anybody, which is a cool move.
I mean, I'm glad he's doing it.
If Kiana Reeves can learn it, why can't Joe Biden?
Well, it's a day from a different era.
Sure.
You know, an era of Philanters and creeps.
Pre-enlightenment.
Don't let me start on that whole thing.
Did you hear this thing?
He was at something like, no, no, Joe Biden.
He was at some point.
He was at some event with like,
and he was talking to some girls like 13.
And then he's like said to her brothers, like your job is to keep guys away from her
Like the compilation is like what is that that?
It's like what why is that their job? Why is it their job?
But also what do you think why are you thinking about this?
I read a good piece where it was like the audience for Joe Biden telling girls that like don't date to your 30 is not the little girl
Or their parents it's for like men at home to understand his
Like perspective on women,
like the psychology of it.
And I was like, this is just all gross.
It's very strange, but it's like Trump,
it's like when Trump's like talking about some fucking
tenures, I'll be dating her in 10 years.
It's like, why does this end in your mind?
Nobody was like, and why?
And why was it my daughter?
Yeah, because like being like every two weeks.
Um, anyhow, okay, getting back to Keanu Reeves,
who is a good guy.
Yeah, great. As far as we know, I hope he Keanu Reeves, who is a good guy. Yeah.
As far as we know, I hope he doesn't get canceled.
I'll feel really bad.
I'll be really upset if he gets canceled.
I'd be like, Mr. Rogers getting canceled.
That's like a great fear that I think we all live with.
The Mr., they're going to be like, yeah, Mr. Rogers.
Like a lot of that.
Yeah, but still would really fuck up a lot of people's like memories.
Yeah.
Anyhow, he's not, as far as I know, no cancellation on Mr. Rogers.
Remember when we canceled Mother Teresa?
Yeah.
What did she do? She's kind of a bitch.
What did she do?
Oh, she was mean.
Yeah, she was like, I mean, I'm a bitch.
You know what?
Oh, she also like didn't believe God, right?
She was like, I think God is actually bullshit.
Yeah, she was a weapons manufacturer.
That's cool.
That's the only wrong with that.
Okay.
And so then Sokiana Reeves, so he comes out in the surprise announcement.
He's the trailer, like cinematic trailer for Cyberpunk 2077. He
shows up at the end and you're like, oh shit. And then he comes out at E3 and he's super
charming. And you know, he just, everybody just loves it. He's just great. He can do
no wrong. Yeah. Which is like why now I'm on high alert for him to do wrong. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, it's just, you know, short, we're just a short walk away from the cancellation
of Keanu Reeves, which is a mini series I'm working on for FX.
All right, what else?
So Cyberpunk, I just hope it's good.
I hope the combat system gets fixed.
I hope that it is not.
I would really like a world.
I would love a fallout, three level world,
where I feel like I'm really can just get totally immersed
in the game and in the universe without getting like
Board like for some reason I didn't get bored in that game either so I get bored in like I'm playing as you know
I've been playing days gone
So it's called days gone and I'm just like
All right, how do I get to the plot? I got a fast like I'm not doing any side shit
I'm not doing anything I don't have to do though. I get a clear out this mess. I'm like I'm not doing that I'm. I'm not doing anything I don't have to do. They're like, you get a clear out this nest. I'm like, I'm not doing that.
I'm like, I need to move this story forward now.
Yeah.
I cannot wait around.
I probably should do some of the side missions.
It doesn't help that like, usually when I'm playing them,
like a couple drinks in and I'm like, I got a-
That's why I fell out.
I got a solid half hour on me.
I fell out of Octopath Traveler
because I was like, I'm not grinding with like,
weird little worms I have to fight to like get to the next.
Just tell me what's fucking happening.
I don't know, it's hard now.
I mean, the games, they gotta move.
They're so big.
I can't put 90 hours in every fucking game.
I would say, right, it's like, yes,
it's like, it's exactly the same with Red Dead.
I think it's the same thing like with Far Cry 5,
which like has mildly entertaining parts.
Mm-hmm.
Beautiful game, really fun to play.
But like, I find myself unable to like stick with it.
Like, which is, I would say there's a game like a horizon zero dawn, totally the opposite.
Unbelievably like every night I was like, I gotta get back to this game.
I have to get back to this universe.
I have to find out what's going on.
I think the message here is that we have to pick one triple A title every six months,
and then you can play lots of little indie games
in the meantime, but I'm past the point
where I can just like purchase multiple AAA titles
and hammer through them.
Like BioShock, you used to be able to just like get
through BioShock.
You could just like in a week or two,
knock it down and be like, ah, that was great.
And if you wanted to like replay it with extra like
new game plus or whatever, that was on the table for you.
Actually speaking of fucking AAA games
and I'm pissed off about you're not
going to care about this, but new Pokemon game looks like ass.
It looks so bad.
And I kind of deep dived into what I think is the reason why.
But I'm pissed off.
They're not in every version of Pokemon you've been able to import old Pokemon.
So you can quote unquote catch them all.
You would have like a.
Has anybody ever caught all the Pokemon?
Um, can't be done, right?
Yeah, I have all of them.
You have every Pokemon?
Yes.
Well, you should let them go.
I think it's wrong.
My issue is you can't, they are introducing a product called Pokemon Home where every Pokemon
done all the current places can be put there.
And then you can take them out and put them in other games, but you can't do it in the
new game, which only has a limited amount of Pokemon in it.
And all your Pokemon basically be stuck
in this home thing that you have to pay for every month.
And it's insane because Pokemon is the biggest money
making for Antichrist.
Were you just saying that Nintendo is crushing it?
This is an Nintendo's issue.
So Pokemon, it might deep dive of this.
But it's part of the...
Yes, but Pokemon is owned one third by Nintendo
who does the merchandising and licensing and the side games and all that stuff. It's owned one third by Nintendo, who does the merchandising and licensing
and the side games and all that stuff.
It's owned one third by Game Freak, the developer,
and one third by the creatures,
and who manage the IP.
So the issue is Game Freak only makes money on the games.
They don't make money on the TV shows or the toys and stuff.
Nintendo has no say creatively over the games.
So if Game Freak only puts out a game every year, say,
one of which is a re-release
in the next one, or like a remake, and the next year is a new one, they have such a small team,
and they, I guess, don't quote, they act like they don't have the budget or whatever,
but they're saying that they can't animate every single Pokemon. It's too much. There's over 800,
there's just too many models, too many attacks, blah, blah.
Well, this is, we're living in the age of infinite storage, I don't believe that.
But it's like, yeah, fuck off, just hire more people.
Also, fans have done this already.
You have the models from older games that look great when, like, you can play the 3DS games
in emulation and blow them up to 1080p.
They look fantastic.
I don't understand.
The game looks like a PS3 game.
The story looks like shit.
And basically, like, they just know they're gonna print money
with these games and they have a schedule for the anime to come out,
so they're just gonna rush whatever they can out.
And they don't put any care into it.
And it's crazy because it's the biggest money
making franchise in the world.
And at some point, I think Nintendo just needs to buy their rights
from Game Freak, pay them off a bunch of money,
sign some kind of deal, or they'll publish whatever games Game Freak
actually wants to be making,
because they seem really burned out
But it's fucking wild because it's a triple A title one of the most popular grand tries in the world
Look at breath of the wild super Mario Odyssey
Like even Mario Kart 8 the Lux is still at this point
But those are all the best versions of all this games. This looks like shit
I remember looking at the trailer and being so excited because it has a free moving 3d camera
Like as if this is the dreamcast like Like I was like, what the fuck?
Why am I excited for the bare minimum
from these people?
And so I think E3, when a lot of these announcements came out,
the fandom of Pokemon, which I hate
where it's like fandom and Pokemon community.
But like the fans on Reddit and various blogs
are basically screaming about the state of things
and the state of this franchise.
And I don't know, I wanted to make mention of it
so that if anyone here works for Nintendo
or the phone company, I'd like you to hear that it fucking sucks.
Okay.
And I'm not buying it.
Wow. You're gonna buy it.
You're definitely gonna buy it.
You always buy it.
You're not gonna release DLC.
You're always like, you're always like,
I'm not buying it and then you buy it.
I'll probably buy it used to.
You're obsessed with all of the Pokemon.
I'm not, I'm feeling, I have been pretty good
about not using YouTube because I'm a Pisted YouTube.
If I can do that, I can skip Pokemon really.
Yeah, YouTube is bad.
It's been more time on persona.
Anyway, to move on from me,
ranting about things I don't like.
Yeah, it was a real rant.
Let's hear, let's hear,
let's hear some things you don't like
because Facebook is now keeping up all deepfakes
and edited videos.
I think it's fine.
I think it's good.
I think deepfakes are cool now.
Even people were putting up ones of Mark Zuckerberg
and like him and I had to piss them off.
I'll say this, at the very least, they're being consistent.
I do think deepfakes are a problem, a serious problem,
but also, I don't see any way possible
for us to literally like control it.
I think like there has to be, again, this is a thing I've said many times, I do think like
it's all about getting people literate in how the news functions and how they should
see when they see things, how they should take them
at first blush.
Media literacy is a huge problem,
but I do think if we think large enough,
maybe we don't need everyone to be able to upload
as much as they want, everywhere, all.
Now it's funny because I will be the first person to say,
I do not like Apple's app store policies,
in the sense that they are very restrictive
about what they put on the App Store.
And by the way, instilled as a bunch of garbage
on the App Store.
But it's different because I own this device.
I should be able to do what I want with it.
I don't own YouTube.
That's a platform.
That's like a place I go to.
But, well, it's like, the way to,
the best way to think of YouTube in some ways
is like a TV network.
Right?
But I think it's like, they, they,
this content, I mean, it would be one thing think it's like, they, this content,
I mean, it would be one thing if they were like,
we host the content and you can use this search engine
to find it and that's all we do.
Like, you can use Google to find a piece of content
you're looking for and then we'll show you the content.
If that was all Google did, sorry, YouTube did,
the same thing.
I think there might be, it might be a little bit less
of a problem.
What they actually are doing is like,
they're like, we host the,
we let you put the content up, we host it.
We give you tools to make it.
We pay people to make it.
We sell ads against it and give you some of that money
so you can get paid to make content.
We have studios where we will make content in them.
We have a search engine, but the search engine also works frictionlessly when you watch
content to predict what you want to see next.
We put more of that content on.
So I think when you get into a place where they're essentially programming it for people,
like when you think about what people watch on YouTube, like if I watch a video on YouTube,
if I watch, let's say, you know, Scream shout, I will, I am in Brittany, which I have done many times, hundreds
of times, maybe perhaps thousands.
It then recommends a video to me based on what it thinks I like, you know, is it party in
the USA by my list, iris?
Possibly.
Or is it a video of a radicalized alt-right guy telling me that Jews should be banned?
Probably that.
But the point is, YouTube is whether it wants to or not now in the job of programming content
for me.
And I think that when you get to that place, you basically can think of them as like a TV
network.
And TV networks used to do one thing pretty well, which is like not just anybody can have
a show.
They wouldn't like force me to watch somebody show.
They'd be like, this went through like a rigorous process,
sometimes good, sometimes bad, and we got a show out of it.
It's not public access.
But these are like scripts written by people.
We've approved, we have network people who like
read the scripts and are like,
For better or worse, you can't say this,
you can't do that, you can't show this, blah, blah, blah.
And so the end product, again, for better or worse,
but I think probably more better than worse, the end product, again, for better or worse, but I think probably more better than worse.
The end product was just like a newspaper,
like the New York Times, again, for better or worse.
Sometimes they do really dumb shit,
but they do a lot of shit that is not dumb,
and many, many, many hundreds of pieces every day
that go through like rigorous, the rigorous act of fact-checking
and editing and rewrites and fucking art direction.
And all the shit that makes a story, a and like that produces it actually does produce a better quality piece of content from a more verifiable and reliable source.
So like TV used to do that really well. The TV network is like HBO's HBO because HBO has really good fucking people.
Good taste. They have good taste but they have good, at the higher grade, editors, they higher grade artists, they higher grade directors.
Like, it is not just about taste,
it's not about just deciding what they want,
but dead one on, but like who makes dead wood,
you know, and what are the scripts like?
And any other point is like, that's a lot of work.
What YouTube's doing isn't a lot of work.
What YouTube's doing is like,
make content for free, we'll make money off of it
because like, we give you a platform to host it
and we can tell ads against it,
and then whatever we have to do to keep you watching
is what we're gonna fucking do.
And it doesn't really matter what's in that next thing.
And like, when they get cut, listen,
if they never got caught, if nobody was ever like,
YouTube, this is offensive.
If literally nobody was ever like,
hey, why are these Nazis over YouTube?
Do you think YouTube would be like,
they wouldn't give a shit?
They wouldn't be like, we gotta stamp this out.
They're pushing numbers.
It's like Jack Dorsey.
Jack Dorsey, as much as I'm sure he would say publicly like,
no, I don't like Nazis.
He likes that Nazis uses network.
It's good for business.
It shows that there are more monthly active users.
And all these businesses are predicated on scale
and active users and who see an ads.
And so like, anyhow, the point is, it's really fucking annoying.
I don't know how we got to down this rabbit hole of YouTube.
I feel like it was a specific thing.
Oh, the fake, the deep fakes.
Yeah, sorry.
So it's like, so now, okay, so, sorry, getting back to,
so I think it's a deep-spoke face face.
Yeah, exactly.
So here's one thing I'll say, Facebook,
we're talking about creators and content creators,
who's creating content.
It is insane that kind of anybody can go on Facebook
and post a video and they can put it under an account
that's like, you know, the world news net or whatever,
and people are like, oh, world news net,
just posted this thing of Donald Trump.
And it's like, that's-
I'm paid a promoter.
Just a guy.
That's just a guy in his fucking mom's basement,
slowing down a video of Nancy Pelosi or whatever.
Like, that's not even a person who has any idea
what they're doing or what the ramifications
what they're doing are.
And it's definitely being sold to you as like news.
Like I get it, I was a blogger.
We were like, you know, an endgagin' 2007,
people were like, you guys are news.
They're like, you're dumb fucking bloggers.
You know, but like we worked really hard to like do news.
And earn the respect.
Yes, Apple didn't invite us to their events.
Then eventually they did,
because they're like, wow,
you guys are doing really good stories
and you're telling really great.
You're doing a really good job
of telling the story about what we're doing.
And wow, even though we don't agree with a lot of the shit,
you're right, we have to respect
that you're working really hard to make something good
that lots of people respond to and respect.
That was what it used to be.
I don't wanna be one of those guys.
I don't wanna be in my day. But now it's like nobody gives a, now it's just like. I don't want to be one of those guys. I don't want to be like in my day.
But now it's like nobody gives a,
now it's just like the whole gate,
the floodgates have been open.
Like citizen journalism is,
in many ways, is can be very bad when you think about it.
Well, the thing is, is nobody goes to YouTube
for accurate reporting what they go to
is because somebody got attention
and it's an attention economy,
not a news or information or entertainment.
It's an intelligence economy.
No, no, I mean, attention. I not a news or information or entertainment. It's an intelligence economy. It's just attention.
I mean, the Paul Brothers are not just stunts.
Yeah, they're literally doing fucking punk.
It's not valuable, it just keeps you watching.
That should not be the thing
that we peg all of our value to.
But also, I do think, I'm not saying
that citizen journalism is bad,
it's not when it's done really well,
it can be fucking amazing.
And like, if you think about like Ferguson or all, you know, all of the, the, the, the, the bad shit that's been caught on, on video or, or all of the people who've gone into places that you couldn't normally get into and have shot video and shot photos and like, who are not like traditional journalists, unbelievable value there.
But like, there are people who are working for like the greater good of and then there's the Jacob walls of the word.
This isn't either or because YouTube has done a really good job of creating YouTube kids, which is a separate app with a curated experience.
Yeah. YouTube music is fairly curated and Mark's in love with this good music.
And it's heads and tails above just my homepage, which is just like, we've decided you care about politics. So here's like, you know, Joe Schmo,
ranting about fucking abortion clinics using fetal tissue
to create clones of the pizza gate.
Like that fucking shit pops up for me
and I have never touched it.
Like there can do a better job of curating it.
Like this isn't a binary thing.
They just don't wanna put the resources
and they don't, they're not passionate about the goal.
And so even if people inside the company are,
if that idea of creating a curated,
like a prestigious, good experience
doesn't excite the people at the top
and what excites them is knowing
that they have the biggest reach
and the best numbers,
then you can see in their result what they're chasing.
I mean, I think that I do think it's like, you know,
well, curation is one thing,
but there's no way to curate
just such an overwhelming amount of content
and the engines they've created are so,
they're so attuned to one type of thing
to getting people to watch more that it's like,
it's like at this point to go back and go,
well, wait, maybe you should curate for the verifiable,
how verifiable this content is or how people with 25 million followers on YouTube or whatever
are spewing absolute shit.
How many subscribers did Alex Jones have?
His career skyrocketed because of things like YouTube.
And it didn't matter until it mattered.
And I do think it's like the incentive system is bad.
And I think that it's not that you, it's not that Google, I'm sure if you ask
most executives at Google, I'm not sure of this.
But I think if you ask a lot of senior people at Google, they'd say like, I don't,
I think this is wrong.
I don't think we should be running.
You know, we shouldn't have these kinds of videos.
We shouldn't host them.
We shouldn't direct people towards them.
But at the end of the day, it's about the bottom line. It's about how many impressions they can add impressions they can sell. It's about how many views they
can get on a fucking video. And it's like, we have to live in a world where Logan Paul is interviewing
Alex Jones because that's the world YouTube has created. I do think, I mean, I hate to go to this
place, but to your point about like more, there's maybe everybody doesn't need to upload a video.
I think it's actually more like,
maybe we all don't need to be looking
at fucking YouTube that much.
Like, maybe we are actually just wasting our time
looking at YouTube.
Oh, absolutely.
Like, I'm not sure there's that much real value in YouTube.
No, I used to just like leave YouTube on
and like, I find lots of weird stuff that was sometimes good
and other times there's just noise in the background.
Having like deciding that I wanna step back from it
because I'm really worried about it
and it really upsets me and every day
I'm reminded in their horrible decisions,
actions or statements, the kind of people
that are running that platform.
Having really stepped back,
I've been listening to a lot more like podcasts,
reading more books, even like just look getting my
news from even like Reddit is better than YouTube.
And I don't think it's like a necessary thing that we all like fucking need to engage.
Like I don't need to know who Logan Paul is and maybe we don't need even if it just keeps
our 12 year olds quiet, maybe like we just don't let them watch that.
Well, I mean, that's there is also just a, I mean,
if, look, there's a real,
I mean, some of you were talking about,
some of you wrote some article about some like,
some fucking, you know, 12 year old radicalized kid
or whatever, who had already been covered
being having been some like,
foul mouse skater girl or whatever,
like two years previous.
But it's like, listen, look, you know,
if your kid is getting radicalized on YouTube. Where's look, you know, if your kid is getting radicalized on YouTube.
Where's CPS?
Yeah, if your kid's getting radicalized
on YouTube at the age of 12,
like you're doing something wrong as a parent,
I guarantee fucking to you,
it doesn't just happen spontaneously, it doesn't.
You need to like limit that kid's access to shit.
They won't just seek it out anywhere.
Like it's not like kids are just like,
man, I want to become a racist.
Like how do I get, where's the literature I can get on that?
It's like, you have to be indoctrinated.
You either have to be raised in it or you have to be indoctrinated by people in your peer group.
But even if you're not a kid, there are people who do not engage with the news or all of
that because it's not fun or exciting.
And a lot of them watched Fox News because it was, my dad put it once.
I just prefer watching it.
It's more fun.
Like, because it's opinion and it's people yelling and it's flashing in your face. YouTube is now a place where a lot
of older people, people who are on the fringes of politics, but are now hearing that things
are crazy are getting into it because it's the most like, you know, it's got the juiciest
stories that are unbelievable. And it's like, well, they're unbelievable because they're
not true. And it's got the most like fringy person gets the most attention. Like Ben Shapiro is able to create a giant YouTube fucking monopoly
because he can be the most,
like the most version of that thing that he is.
Do you know what I mean?
There's nobody stepping in and being like, you know,
it's okay to have an Elizabeth Hasselbeck,
but we don't need a Ben Shapiro or whatever,
which you do on television.
It's kind of really shitty that, I don't know,
the platform by its nature will promote
friendgy voices and loud voices and attention
and entertaining voices.
Ben Shapiro destroys...
That whole thing is geared towards,
it's like this weird self-fulfilling sort of thing
where I don't know, it's just like, the whole thing has been almost like, the entire culture of YouTube weird, like self-fulfilling sort of thing where,
I don't know, it's just like,
the whole thing has been almost like,
the entire culture of YouTube has been almost like algorithmically
generated in a way to a very negative and poor spot.
Hey, do you hear about Justin Bieber wants to have an MMA fight
with Tom Cruise?
Speaking of, some people are adjusting really well
to fame and drug addicts.
So what's the deal?
So do we think Justin Bieber is like super into his, so into his Christianity that he's
like Tom Cruise, you're like, you're a Scientology guy and I think you like Scientology should
be stamped out and I'm going to fight you over it.
Maybe.
Is this a religiously, like a religious motivation?
I don't even know the brain cells that sparked together to cause the tweet, but I do know
that the spark was itself was caused by probably cocaine.
I would imagine has anybody just to Tom Cruise respond to this at all?
No, and then eventually be able to was like, I changed my mind. I'm not doing it.
Yeah, I tweet lots of crazy things.
I mean, imagine.
Okay.
I mean, the one thing you get a wonder is like, I wonder if he's well, but like, sure.
Remember when Amanda Binds wanted Drake to murder her vagina?
We're getting real close to that territory.
I think she speaks for all of us.
Now here's a question.
Do we think that I feel like pretty strongly
at Tom Cruise would be pretty good in a fight?
Yeah, because a lot of his on stunts.
Yeah, but in Scientology,
definitely has some Krav Magog people training him.
I think it's the wrong religion,
but isn't that in Israeli?
Sure, but Scientology is super down to just start its own Navy.
Sure, I guess.
That is true.
I don't know though, like, so, I mean, listen,
I you know I'll be ridden for the cruise missile,
you know I'm all in on Tom.
Yeah, but Justin Bieber could have a kind of animal energy,
like a Canadian animal.
Like a cocaine, cocaine mixed with, you know, he's from...
Beast that too energy.
He's from Canada, you know, like a wolf,
like a Canadian wolf, anyhow.
I don't know how to make of it.
All right, so wait, there's also,
there's some other stuff going on,
some other great stuff happening.
Did you see the thing with the Volker?
Well, no, wait.
What happened about this?
Oh, what happened?
Is this from this thing, is this from this,
I saw there's a cover of new york magazine is got um...
drag stars on it
so they did the fifty most powerful drag queens
uh... they told them that they were all gonna do a cover shoot but then they
only release six covers but they didn't tell them that
then they didn't tell them they were ranking them they say they were
highlighting them and so they started ranking them the The rankings are wrong. Most of the reporting
is wrong. They asked most of them to give them their annual salary, so they could include
it, which is like private information and kind of wrong. They just bungled this from
like beginning to end. It just came off as very, very like commoditizing of these people,
as opposed to respecting them as artists or like it was like a drag is powerful now in mainstream.
But then they don't treat them like mainstream celebrities. They treat them like people who should be thankful that they'll be in New York magazine.
It's like it's like drag is like sports now or whatever.
Yeah, and but even there all their reporting was wrong. They listed the wrong seasons that people were on that were in their top 10. Some of people's descriptions was just something
like specific and personal about them,
something like someone so had cancer ones
and now they're better.
And you're like, this is not as an entertainer.
Like, it was just very bad.
And I can't believe First of all that it got published.
But second, like, that,
where it's pride month and everybody's fucking this up.
We are in 2019
It is not that hard to just ban people who say faggot on your platform or the ask a drag queen of question
Then write down what she says and then put it in your magazine like this isn't rocket science doesn't it feel like it feels like one of those things
You know a piece went up on the outline about LGBTQ reporting is so bad very bad
Well, it's it's like a lot of things where you actually need
to be super knowledgeable about the thing you're reporting on,
where you need like need to have like an intimate knowledge
and understanding of like the history of a thing.
Yeah.
And like the culture of a thing.
Yeah, I wouldn't write about like the top 50,
and the eight players.
And this is like literally everything very wise rights
is like, just like somebody who's just culturally,
totally like a phony.
And many of the op-ed people at the New York Times.
But to me it felt like it was one of the things
where somebody was like, oh my God,
everybody's talking about drag.
Like let's do a drag thing.
Like let's drag us.
We can do some.
Like there were some of you who was like,
drag is cool now, that's our take.
Drag is huge, it's sports. And somebody was somebody who's like, drag is cool now, that's our take. Drag is huge, it's sports.
And somebody's like, yes, that drag is sports now,
or whatever, and they're like, that's our idea.
And like, you know, avoiding the actual work of knowing.
And by the way, I know very little about the space.
I'll be honest with you, I'm not.
A lot of wigs.
That well versed, I understand there are some wigs involved. You'd be surprised to find out how many of them are men. I'll be honest with you. I'm not. A lot of wigs. That well versed. I understand there are some wigs involved.
You'd be surprised to find out how many of them are men.
I've heard the summer men.
And anyhow, but so I just think it felt like one of those things
where it's like, I don't know about this world,
but I have an idea about it.
And now that's my concept, and now I'm doing it.
And now it's the cover story.
And oh, I screwed some stuff up.
Well, you know, reporting's tough.
Here's why this depressing...
Being a journalist is hard.
From a media perspective, why this depressing is me.
It's okay, so like a couple weeks ago, that story went viral
about how two white lesbians were attacked
because they wouldn't kiss in front of a group of men
so the men beat them.
What did this happen?
Yes, and this was reported...
It's a very serious, horrible story, obviously.
But the story went viral.
It was reported everywhere in mainstream.
It was very quote unquote horrifying and it is horrifying.
But the more horrifying thing is that most of those outlets have not reported on how many
trans women have been murdered this year, especially trans women of color, the insane
murder or like suicide rate for that group. And it's just that to me just signals how racist and how
how people passed gay marriage because they knew someone like them and that looked like them
and acted like them who wanted it and that humanized that thing. And because Transcendent of
Color don't look or act like the mainstream consumer of news product, that these horrifying crimes, which should have their own
podcast series, like every white woman who gets murdered
gets a podcast series fetishizing her killer
as being sexy and decodied of done it.
And these people get literally no attention.
That story goes viral, but I don't expect that kind of
like CNN stuff to always get it right.
Like that's why GLAD exists, that's why we,
we're constantly talking about it.
What bothers me is that Vulture,
a flip story about popular celebrities that everybody likes,
literally everybody likes, little kids go to drag con,
my aunt's watch drag race and text me about it,
it's a mainstream thing.
Sports now.
They don't have the respect
that they, that treating these people like actual celebrities,
they treat them like they should be thankful for the opportunity.
And it just feels like from a media perspective,
this particular pride month has been from every angle,
reinforcing to me how little everyone cares or understands.
And like the fact that like, that this is also tenuous,
that this just reinforces to me like how much we need pride,
because it feels so tenuous.
Like we are, we are not that far out from the passage of gay marriage.
We are not out of the needs epidemic.
Do you know what I mean?
I mean, we could be living in a world where that shit's getting repealed in any day.
Like fucking vulture can't get it right.
Well, you have to remember that you have to remember, wow, you got very loud in that portion
by the way, my ears are literally hurting.
But here's the thing that's interesting.
I mean, there is a connection between, and I don't wanna bring it back to my world,
because drag is not my world.
I'll let it open to you.
Yeah, not yet.
I'm gonna get you in some fish.
Thinking about, what my drag name, what my drag name be?
I know there was a guy, my mom's little hair salon
who's named with Sandy Beaches,
which I thought was an amazing,
his drag name was Sandy Beaches. And I was was an amazing, his drag name was Sandy Beaches.
And I was like, that's a really good.
That's really good.
I don't know if maybe Sandy Beaches is still out there.
Cybe Punk.
And it's not very clever.
I don't know, whatever.
We'll still on this.
We'll have something really...
I have a list of drag names,
but I can't give them a say.
Yeah, you don't want to.
You don't want to.
Mine would be Bodega.
Bodega. Yeah, Bodega. That's good. Oh Bodega, yeah, that's good. You don't want to. Mine would be Bodega. Bodega.
Yeah, like Bodega.
That's good.
Oh, Bodega, yeah, that's good.
I mean, I like that.
I need a pill.
My favorite drag name, by the way,
I think I said I'm so high-guessed,
but I have to say it is Karen from Finance.
I think Karen from Finance is really good.
Okay, but what I was gonna say is
to bring this back into my world,
it's slightly bit.
I do think there is, this is a great example of,
by the way, magazines have been doing this forever,
where they are like so desperate
to create a sensational talking point,
like a thing that, by the way, magazine covers are bad.
I have a, I am very anti the magazine cover.
I love magazines and I love magazine covers,
but what I fucking hate is,
and it's a very modern thing, it's more modern than ever,
where people are always trying to blow people away with their
big statement.
They're big fucking like, oh shit.
You know, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they put
someone on the cover and then, the, the, the Caitlin Jenner thing.
Yeah, or like, I don't know if they've done this, but it's like, Trump, but he's a black
guy.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like that kind of thing, whether you're like, oh shit, like,
I don't know what that statement would be.
Neither do they.
They're working backwards from the cover.
But that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like, it's like,
it's like when you're actually in your magazine,
it's great.
They did a big cover right before the election
with Donald Trump on it,
and it's at loser.
And they were like,
oh, we're gonna fucking like jump out ahead of this.
And it's like, oh yeah,
he won, now you look like dummies
and you actually had to write like an apology where you're like yeah like that was sort
of we kind of jumped the gun probably and probably contributed was dressed like CGI Sonic.
Yeah that's what I'm talking exactly. It's like Sonic like Sonic's dick is on the cover you know
and it's like you're like oh they actually that would be an amazing cover I don't even care
what the story is. Frankly we're starting a magazine here now. Yeah. The magazine is like nude video game characters,
but not the ones that you're like,
no, they're like B-lister.
Not like the ones you want to see nude.
It's like Sonic.
It's like one of the punks from Streets of Rage.
Or like, actually, I think the punks.
She's bald.
Yeah, bald.
It's huge, huge sack.
Anyhow, okay, but yeah, I do think it's like,
it is a pursuit to be like, to be like,
oh, like we got the drag as sports now or whatever.
And it's like, oh, wow, cool idea,
but like you're, you're stories fucking bullshit
and you know, it's not well researched
and it's insensitive to the community
that you're actually trying to fucking cover
and the people you're talking about, any heart.
What else?
Let's barrel through a couple of topics here
and then we should like, well,
um, what do we got?
I want to talk about, uh, politics because we've been circling around it.
Was jammed through, like, three sanders is quitting.
Okay, that's a dream come true.
Her poor family has to see her now.
Oh, wow. Um, remember when, like, there is this controversy about her wearing eye makeup
or whatever, um, people wouldn't have talked about it if her eyes pointed in the same direction.
Okay, that is at any expressiveness.
Listen, I'm not going to comment on that, but I will say she fucking sucks and good
ridden to bad rubbish.
And I hope it's a sign that things are falling apart even more than they were before.
How bad does it have to be for Sarah?
How could he standards to be like, I heard some boys hiring?
It must be. I'm hoping I got a feel.
There's also this thing about Kelly and Conway is like,
they're talking about like she should be like,
removed from her position or whatever.
Security clearance.
Yeah, there's so many bad things happening all at once,
but I do wonder like, is that?
What piece of information came in that we finally decided,
she doesn't seem like a good person to trust me.
I never no secrets.
They're like, we just got it back.
Remember when she made up the bowling green massacre?
Yes, yes I do.
But it's like, yeah, they're like,
well, we just got to report back. She's bad.
It's like, really?
You needed the fucking report.
She looks like one of the skexies from the dark crystal on there.
Like, she might be a bad guy.
Listen, my thing is I don't comment
on the way people look, okay?
Must as Trump, you know.
Mike Pence looks like a reanimated Nazi
at the end of a superhero movie.
That's definitely true.
I mean, that's definitely true.
But, but what I think what's important,
what we should always keep in mind is that
you can call him like the Cheeto man or whatever,
but it's not his like bad tan or whatever, but, but it's not
his like bad tan job that's the problem and it's not the thing that we should be focusing
on. I'm not saying say whatever you want. You know, this is America. You say whatever
the fuck you want. Apparently, yeah, if you, and if you sit on Twitter, they'll, they'll
promote it and pay you for it. Um, but, uh, I just think it's like, you know, I don't want
to, like, it's like, I can talk about his bad tan, but like what I really want to talk about is like his bad brain, which is also
discussed in, in reprehensible.
Uh, could you talk about dark phoenix for a second?
Yeah.
I know you were going to get into politics, but I want to go back up to nerd culture.
This is pretty political.
I haven't seen it.
It looks bad to me, and I like the X-Men, but I feel like they've totally lost the thread
on this one.
What's going on with that?
You saw it.
Give me your quick review, your quickie review.
Definitely better than the last stand,
one of the worst superhero movies I've ever seen.
Wait, the last stand was the one
directed by Brett Radner.
Yeah.
X-3, that movie sucks.
It's horrible.
It's terrible.
There's like a huge gay allegory in that movie
or like a attempt.
That's a cool thing, is.
But it was not good.
It was boring, which is probably the worst sin blockbuster movie
like that can commit.
It did not understand the point of the original story.
And the original story is a little outdated.
Anyway, I love the dark fenix story,
but if you were to update it,
there are some things you could do that they didn't.
Sophie Turner's great in it.
So far, I heard she was very baders great in it, she was very bad.
No, I thought she was very boring, pretty fine. Um, but I mean, it's
tough because the movie itself doesn't seem to care about itself or the
characters like they just kind of seem to be running through it. Um, and it
just reinforces how much the X-Men should be a TV show where we get to see
these people and grow with their relationship and see like what their lives
are like on regular basis with a monster
of the week and not a movie because they have to rush all of this stuff in and
I mean the X-Men timeline at this point is like a joke. It wasn't good. I can't
recommend seeing. Yeah, I don't get what's going on the timeline. I nobody does.
There's three timelines. They have this to me has a had a great meme where it was like
maybe four it was like they show Michael fastbender and like the new movie and
it's setting like the 90s I guess and then like they show in me in me
Calon and and it's like the first X-Men movie is like is 2000 and it's like
what happened at this 10 years because Cause like, in that movie, he's like,
70 or, but I'm not buying that Michael Fastbender
is an escape E from a concentration camp,
like a Jewish escape E from a concentration camp.
And then Michael Fastbender doesn't read,
like a Fastbender reads as someone who is operating the oven.
Yeah, and definitely,
it definitely is a little bit of a stretch.
Yeah. Although like he's like a, I mean, I think they actually
sort of go into that, but I think first class is really good.
Yeah.
First class is really good.
What was the second one?
Days of Future Past.
Oh, yeah, that was, it was fine.
And it's fine.
And what we, it was so terrible.
So terrible.
Terrible.
Apocalypse is one of these movies where just like,
it's like every Marvel and DC movie, not every Marvel,
but well, some of them. And certainly every DC movie, it's like every Marvel and DC movie, not every Marvel, but some of them.
And certainly every DC movie where it's like big guy
with a fire wand maybe or a thing that shoots a laser
from a handgun or there's a thing in the middle
of his forehead that can project something or whatever. And's got a bunch of a henchmen that are like
sort of devil guys, but they're not they're alien
Bad people the bad people from space. That's that guy. It's like a vague he's from under the earth, but also space. He's like a large
Scary guy who has powers who can summon things maybe, has henchmen possibly.
And Frank wants to destroy the world.
That's the other thing.
I want to destroy the world.
And or universe for reasons that are cleansing to bring a cleansing fire.
I'm sorry, please fucking plots are like, it's all the same thing.
At least with Thanos, I hate to give more.
I hate to give anybody credit because frankly I think a lot of these
movies are really as though you know as you know I'm a now a Marvel Stan I
least with Thanos you knew he had a big piece
no Stan Thanos's plan was like it was like kind of good because it was like
totally overwhelming and ridiculous but also had a weird diabolical, like, Hitler-esque logic to it.
Yeah, they made, like, Infinity War and Endgame
as his story sort of.
And so with him as a hero,
they gave it an internal logic
and like a journey that he was on,
which made him a real character.
The problem with the dark Phoenix is that
the entire story is predicated on, we've seen the X-Men save the world so many times that nobody could doubt them
And then when they screw up a little bit the public turns and it was the thing I was just talking about which is like this is also tenuous
Exceptions is so tenuous and we always perfect right
We haven't seen that. Oh, we've seen is them fucking things up on a global scale
And then saving it at the last night. I also think, I also think, I do think that they,
in particularly in the first,
I wanna say the first two movies,
and I hate to say, they're Brian Singer movies,
so I know it's controversial.
They are good.
I'm just saying those movies are the,
I think the best of the X-Men,
particularly X-2 I think is really good,
which, I mean, X-2 really,
my recollection is it actually sets up the Phoenix story,
like it's supposed to set up the Phoenix story.
Maybe that happens in X3, but I don't remember because I hated it so much.
And Brett Ratner is such a terrible fucking director.
So he's such a, it's such a crazy, you're like, oh, like Brian Singer who was known for
making really good thoughtful, like challenging movies.
And then like, Brett Ratner who made rush hour, okay, sure, I guess if you want your movie to be dumb,
at any rate, but they did a good job in those movies
of depicting this idea that like,
that the people's tolerance was like,
that people could be swayed to become wildly intolerant
and basically bad by political figures or things that happen,
big events that happen. I mean, I think it was very much, it was very like about fear versus hope.
I feel like the second one was definitely had some 9-11 stuff. I can't remember when it came out,
but I was just like 2003 maybe, it doesn't for. It doesn't for. Anyhow, but it was that whole thing
where it's like, all of a sudden, we hate Arab people in America now because, you
know, what if we the government's telling us that we should?
But I think that, I think that that I love that thread in the way they kind of painted
that picture and then I expended this in the comics where it was like public opinion can
turn against you and then you'll become like, I mean, it is very much like Magneto's story
where it's like, oh, this is a guy who survived the Holocaust and you can see another type
of Holocaust that could happen.
It's based on the way people are
that has nothing to do with who they are.
Yeah.
Like, a mutant is just a person who can control the weather.
No big deal.
I mean, actually, we should be fearful of that.
I have to say, when you think about it,
it's like, oh, he shoots lasers from his eyes.
I can cut through buildings and people. Yeah, I do feel like, when you think about it, it's like, oh, he shoots lasers from his eyes, I can cut through buildings and people.
Yeah, I do feel like we should do something about that
instead of just like, well, we gotta trust.
No, I can't trust.
We gotta trust.
You're prosent.
We gotta trust him to be good.
Just find out you're prosent.
I don't know, there is a good argument.
Magneto is not good.
He's fucking like, he's like,
well, Magneto is right.
He's like redirecting bullets into people's brains and shit.
Yeah, Magneto, but it's of course, there is a good argument though.
I'm by the way, I'm not saying that I'm making this argument.
I can understand the argument where you're like, the...
But that's why the movie's good.
Because you can get...
Professor Xavier can control people with his mind.
Let's make sure he's not going to do that to the wrong person.
Yes, that's why those movies are good, though.
Or if you can see both sides of how those characters got there.
But look, I'm not advocating for sandals or concentration camps.
I would never do that.
But I'm saying, I understand, but that's the great tension that exists there,
which is like you can see the reason for it.
But then, by the way, Marvel tries to do this with the Avengers to some degree.
They're a little less successful though, because not all the Avengers seem that spectacular.
They're kind of like, they're kind of like, I mean, like, you're just little less successful though because like not all the Avengers seem that spectacular. They're kind of like they're kind of like I mean
black widow. Like you're just good at shooting I guess. Yeah. I mean it's actually
Hawkeye and black widow and to some extent Iron Man are just like people. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, weird fetishes. They're like the Hulk is trying very hard to
not be the Hulk. Yeah. Yeah. They're like on a really weird fat life.
I don't like that.
They're on the weirdest, like forum on fat life.
It's like anybody, have a suit, like an Iron Man suit.
I'm into guys with Iron Man suits as fly.
If you were an 16 Iron Man suits,
that could rip me apart.
I'm looking for a guy who will transform when angry into a gigantic green monster.
I'd like a lady who can snap my neck with her thighs,
but will lie to me constantly.
Also, it is always a leather, obviously.
Anyhow, all right, should we should wear
the place of us?
What else?
Should we do nice things?
Okay, let's do nice things.
We didn't skip, do we skip anything important?
Oh, well, the media is uncovering the massacre in Sudan.
Google that.
Like, but what's new?
I know.
That to me is part of the course of the media.
It's such a pressing.
It's very depressing.
All right, go ahead.
Nice things.
Wow.
Yes.
Neither are we.
Nice things.
We ran out of time.
Yeah, I do nice things.
So because I've been off of YouTube, I've got two podcast recommendations.
I was looking for some podcasts that were like
single stories followed or whatever
because I have a lot of comedy and variety shit.
But I was like, all right, let's do some of these.
And there was some that I couldn't get through
the first episode of, here's the best and the worst.
I'm gonna tell you and they're both nice.
One is to live in Dianne LA,
which is the story of an actress who went missing. And her boyfriend, it's pretty clear from the beginning that the
boyfriend is involved, but then there are so many twists and turns and like weird
reveals and it all kind of happens in real time as the podcast is recorded. Like
the reporter got on the story before it was announced to the larger media. So
there is a ton of first-person interviews
with like the mother of the victim and you know the father who the guy was driving to see when the
girl went missing and like you just there's a tons of stuff and it is really wild that that it
came together like this and that I haven't seen more people talking about it so that was great.
And there's one called something was wrong which is maybe the worst podcast I've ever heard in my life.
And this is no knock on the person who made it
except their work is bad.
It is about, it's like 10 or 12 episodes,
recounting the story of this girl who dated a guy
and almost married a guy who ended up being
pretty sociopathic, I think it's like kind of fair to say.
He created like catfish accounts
and stole their phone.
Is this the guy, is this the people that had like they were like getting married. They
were like, good morning America. Am I think if some, there's like influencers or something?
Well, anyway, the family is, the family is super Christian and extremely like self-righteous
and, and also extremely gossipy. So the whole podcast is really drawn out
It's just like one time he came to our house and he asked for coffee cake and he ate it with the spoon
And I said I'll wash you a knife, but he ate it with a spoon. That's what I knew something was wrong
And I turned it over to God and God sent me a message through a dove and I was like they can't get married
And then at the end he ends up he is kind of an unsettling and savory guy, but it's nothing that wild the reveal is no no spoilers
the
reveal is nothing like
Psycho there's no twist wow it ruined the show for everybody sucks. It's so bad
Boylar alert Ryan ruins everything if you want to listen to a podcast where the
Quonon quote victims and this is a nice thing or bad
You want to listen to a podcast where the quote unquote victims is in this thing or bad.
It's great.
Where the victim and the host are as sanctimonious,
narcissistic and self-involved as the sociopathic encounter.
There you go.
Wow.
That's a really good write up.
I mean, I would be really good like whatever I would.
People like, I'm clicking on that.
And then my true, my one true actually nice thing is that the spice girls are making an animated movie and I'm very pumped that. And then my true, my one true, actually nice thing is that the Spice Girls are making an animated movie
and I'm very pumped.
That's it.
Original songs.
I'm sorry.
All five ladies.
I don't get it.
They had one one hit.
They had lots of it.
I don't remember.
They made a really great movie that was called Spice.
We're all just checking out.
I'm on guard, piece of art house, grind house film.
I know I had more nice things.
I feel like I had other nice things.
By the way, I remember I said I downloaded Skyrim,
and I was like, I don't know why.
And I was like, it looks bad,
but that actually looks pretty good.
But also Skyrim Super Buggy fully crashed my PS4.
Like 100% had the application is closed, see you later.
But it's kind of fun.
It's interesting, it's a lot.
Talk about a game that's where it's like really asking a lot.
Yeah. I'm like, and it give me an introduce to all sorts of characters that have all sorts of stories that tell that I do not give a fuck about.
I'm like, and, uh-huh. You're like, and, uh-huh. What's happening? All right. Okay. Oh, really? You're causing. All right. That's interesting.
It's like, you know what, guys, like, who? Okay. Anyhow, but now I'm gonna add those a nice thing so it is kind of fun and the ski race escape is.
So I, you know, I'm a big fan of the fake meets,
all the fake meets.
I like all fake meets.
You love a real doll.
I love a real doll and I like to feed a real doll,
a Dimpossible Burger.
Chicken and nuggets.
Yeah, actually, yes, those are great.
CHI chicken, lots of yen.
Those are great.
You're vegetarian, are you?
Yeah, I love chicken.
I love chicken, I love chicken.
I mean, there's a lot of great items out there.
Like, I used to play with corn, you know corn,
that's cute.
And they make like a chicken like filet,
like a, it is incredible, an incredible piece of engineering.
But, so you know, I've been like,
a very bullish on the Impossible Burger.
I went to a French, we have a French place near our house
that went to the other a couple of weeks ago
and they now have the Impossible Burger
and I got an Impossible Burger
and it was like so fucking good.
It was, I mean, it was like, I was like, this is it.
I don't ever have to eat a burger again
if I can get these.
Like I feel, you know, I'm like done for life.
So I've done beyond meat burgers to grill last summer
and I wouldn't feel thrilled.
I didn't think they were that good.
But I grilled some the other day
and I gotta tell you they're really fucking good.
And it's really satisfying.
And like I fed them to some like meat eaters
and they were like, these are really good.
Where did you get these?
And I have to say, I mean, every time I have like,
their stock prices inflated and all this bullshit,
I don't know, I think this is a game changer.
I really do think like once the prices come down,
once there's more of these, once there's competition,
the people are like making even better versions,
I think it's an incredible moment in like, food.
And people really should step back and think about what this could potentially
mean for the entire world. Because like meat's really bad for the planet. Yeah.
Meat eating is bad. Not just the animals. The meat is really bad for you.
I'm not just saying be sad about the animals. Although I have to say, he's not had a graduate,
he shed this graduation for her end of, he's just an end of year thing and should have
started Spangled Banner, solo, very good. And, but the kids went up and did a song
about all these endangered species.
And each, they had a whole class,
like 40 kids were like,
talking about all the endangered species
and why they're endangered.
And there's like too much hunting and fish and blah, blah, blah.
And then like, okay, but it's,
thanks for coming, it's lunch.
And there's like a massive tray of chicken fingers.
It's like such a weird message.
It's like, these animals are endangered from too much haunted here.
Have some chicken.
Like, I was listening to a political podcast the other day
that had a giant round table discussion on climate change,
wrapped it and went to an ad for it,
like mailing, you could be mailed frozen steaks.
It's like, we've gotta stop all this crazy food shipping.
They were like, we are over moth stakes.
If you want Omaha steaks,
throw them up to your door every day.
Almost takes all, I've been confusing me. It's like, I don't understand. Like gosh. If you want Omaha's takes thrown up to your door every day. Almost takes it all.
I've been confusing me.
It's like, I don't understand.
Like, how wide do I have to have this delivered?
This does not make sense.
Anyhow.
Anyhow.
But beyond meat on the grill, if you do it right,
you gotta do it.
You can't leave them on there too long.
But if you get the timing right, it's like three minutes
on each side.
Fucking delicious.
Throw some fucking mayo chop on on that thing
Put a little put a little bun on it
Put your teeth into it. I think we'll let people pick their own dip dip it in as a ranch. Oh, that sounds good I'm hungry right now sounds really delicious. All right. I think it's it. That's my lane. That those are my nice things. All right, let's go eat
Do it, let's do it. Well, that is our show for this week, but we'll be back next week with more tomorrow.
And as always, I wish you and your family the very best, though.
I've just been informed the reason Sarah Huckabee Sanders quit her job was to spend more time
with your family.