Tomorrow - 167: Fill the Void with Orange Soda
Episode Date: June 21, 2019For the first 30 minutes of episode 167, Josh and Ryan attempt to cure the ills of humanity by Galaxy Brain-ing the worst people on planet earth. For the back 30 minutes, they discuss Taylor Swift, or...ange soda, and the movie Anchorman. This is just how life is now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey and welcome to Tomorrow, I'm your host Josh Watsapolski. Today on the podcast, we discuss the Middle East political theory and Orange Vanilla
Coke.
I don't want to waste one minute.
Let's get right into it.
All right, Ryan, we're back.
It's another week.
It's a week, both of where a lot happened and sort of nothing happened.
This was the kind of week that really highlights for you that a week is a social construct.
What we think of as weeks are really just days put together in sets.
And days are truly just a way of organizing the horrors that we continually experience.
Yeah, that's right.
You said horrors. Yeah, I just wanted to try.
I'm not the horrors that we could take
to your experience, that would be inappropriate.
Anyhow, yeah, no, it's a week of, yeah, I mean,
you know, it's a week.
It's a week of days, days made of hours, hours,
which are of course a construct based on minutes.
And I think we can agree that none of it means anything. I like that you ended up minutes because minutes are real.
Whatever, minutes are the foundation of all reality.
I think we know that anything sub minutes is not even a part of the conversation.
I think where we have that.
Seconds to me are just an illusion created to define minutes.
You know?
Yeah.
Anyhow, time is a construct and I would like to get out of it if it all
Can I climb out of the construct and move on anyhow? All right, let's talk about what's going on this week
I mean, let's should we just get out in front of this um
The Iran the Iran war that's happening um apparently it isn't happening because an adult no
No, no, no, it's not happening yet. It's not happening yet. But like, like, like, like, this is like,
this is Bush, W, George W Bush, like 2.0.
I mean, this is what happened in a second.
I mean, they went to war so that they could guarantee
a hugely unpopular president could have a second term.
Because it's very unlikely that a president
is replaced during a time of war.
They are desperate, they are dying.
They are so, I've never met a group of people
horny or for a international conflict,
then the group of people that are currently
residing in the white.
But I almost, and there's nothing I would ever
forgive George Bush for, but I almost feel like this is worst
because at least that was evil with like a plan to be evil.
Like we're gonna go in there, we're gonna go guns blazing,
we're gonna get some oil and we're gonna rally up the place. This we're gonna get some oil, and we're gonna rally up the base.
This is just like a toddler who is like,
I haven't pushed this button yet,
what are we at that time?
Well, the amazing thing is that the Iranians
are so smart, they're like, yeah, like let's do it,
like bring it on,
because they know that America's in free fall right now.
So like the rest of the world can see America very clearly.
And I think this is what is something that cannot be discounted.
You have got to understand, we see it inside and we're like, wow, this is like chaos,
but we can fix it.
But from the outside, this is the greatest thing that's ever happened to America from the
perspective of anybody who doesn't like America.
Because it looks like exactly what is happening, which is America.
Even most countries that do like America would love to see us take it on the nose.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah. And every time it's like, yeah, like, maybe we deserve good. Yeah.
Like you fucking, like you blew up your high horse. Now like you've got nothing. Now you're
laying in the ground. You're in a curl, defeatal position in the smithereens of the high horse
that you are on. And people fucking love it. And in Iran. And by the way, like, I mean,
I'm not saying there are, there's a bunch of great leadership folks
over in, you know, I'm not saying that they're like buddies of mine or anything, but I'm
just saying that they love poking America right now because America is in disarray and
they know they can get a lot of runway out of it, you know, they've got a lot of runway
here. They're like, oh yeah, like let's go to war and throw your country into total disarray and you can reelect this idea. Yeah, you guys destroying America.
That's the thing that I so I got really booting college like people freaked out on me because no one can bill you on this podcast. about terrorism and like the effects of it and it's like psychologically and stuff. And I,
as you can imagine, was often vocal in the class. But, you know, we're having a group discussion,
and I said that sometimes I wonder if like America taking the beat on 9-11 and deciding not just to like take action in some
capacity, but to really blindly go into racist wars based on lies or just pure rage, didn't
give the terrorists attacking that day like exactly what they want and make us look exactly how they thought that we looked. And like in some ways, we are more damage was done to America by like
our reaction to what happened, then even what happened that day. I mean, in your dental and
everyone in my college class really flipped out on me for that. But I, that was a genuine like,
I'm not trying to press everybody off and be a troll look the
9-11 I mean the whole point of 9-11 was not to blow up a building
A building is a small thing in the grand scheme of war in the grand scheme of like an ideological battle
The whole point of 9-11 was to do what exactly what happened after 9-11
Which was to send our country into a fucking tailspin and stick us in a war, an unwinnable war with the wrong enemy and lead
us essentially to Trump, I mean, in many ways.
Like, they basically wanted, they wanted economic collapse, they wanted to make us look like
racists and reactionaries and war mongers and to flex on the world stage all our insane
military just so that they could reveal that we're we have this and that we're ready to
use. Do you know what I mean? And it just feels like we're being baited in the exact same
way. No, no, this is this is this is the amount in the area.
We've got our own fascist situation going on, which is just, you know, them trying to point out like,
democracy is just as bad kind of like bullshit.
I mean, listen, I think we've seen the limits of whatever version of democracy we have in
this country.
Well, in this country, yes.
But I think there is a version, versions of democracies that are functioning better, and
that if you erode people's faith
in the concept at all then they won't update those institutions and those systems
and maintain it because they won't love it anymore. You know what I mean? Like you critique and you
work hard on the thing that you believe in and if we don't believe in democracy as a project
and we, you know, we think we need a strong man leader who will push the button when it's like not,
you know, socially PC or whatever, like if that's the philosophy that America's taken,
America's taken, we will continue to erode our democracy and then prove that point out.
Well, that's what we're doing. I mean, that's what that's sort of what we're doing. I mean,
and anyhow, so there's this war that's being cooked up. I mean, it's being run by essentially by
John Bolton,
who is a war monger, or who war monger,
was the, he is the weapons of mass destruction guy
for everybody who needs a history lesson.
I mean, he's literally the guy who's the arch,
one of the architects of the Iraq War,
which of course, as we know, was a total bullshit quagmire.
Anyhow, the long and short of it is like,
I feel like there's something that's so insanely
transparent about what's happening in this whole exchange.
Something that's so wildly transparent in the progression of events, that if the government,
if people in the government aren't, now I don't, of course, I don't expect the Republicans
to do anything because they are useless and anti-American.
But I do expect some people non-Republicans
to act up and act up loudly about this.
But it is to me as like, this is cookie-cutter shit.
I mean, Trump desperately needs a reason to stay in office
and nothing he's done in terms of his policy,
in terms of his approach to politics,
in terms of the way that he's handled America
for the last couple of years, has indicated that there's a great desire in this country
to keep what Trump's doing going.
And so this is, to me, feels like a very much like a last ditch.
This is like a Hail Mary.
Like, can we get into a war?
And I don't know.
It's pretty fucking crazy that this is like, that I can see it clearly, and I think a lot
of other people can, and yet it's happening anyway. You know, I can see it clearly and I think a lot of other people can
and yet it's happening anyway. You know, I could see it during the Iraq war. I mean, everybody
with a brain who understood, I mean, by the way, I was not one of these people with much of a brain,
but you could understand that like that that it wasn't Iraq that was the enemy in the in the
situation of 9-11. Like it was very clearly had nothing to do with it. Yeah, and I think it's not
even like such a like, you know, how does nobody else see this? clearly had nothing to do with it. Yeah, and I think it's not even such a,
how does nobody else see this?
I think that people do see it,
and then the other things like being on the team
that you already endorsed and racism and blind rage,
they overwhelm you to the point that people understood.
You know what I mean?
I think people knew, but they just didn't care
They were just mad and they were mad around people and they they wanted right
But this is I mean the difference here is we don't have that. I mean there is no there is no catalyst
You know nobody gives a fuck about a drone being shot down and and no one's in no one is really in danger
And this talk of like Iran getting like nukes.
It's like an esoteric sort of like philosophical conversation to have.
And it's great.
Like do sanctions, like negotiate, do whatever the fuck you need to do.
But like, I'm sorry, we can't handle North Korea the way we've handled North Korea,
which is like not at all.
And they actually have nuclear weapons.
And they are actually testing missiles
and threatening to literally blow up things that we care about.
Whereas Iran is just like, well, they might have this, they might do this, or we don't
like the fact that you know it's like-
I mean, if anything are behavior-
Shooting down in Korea, it makes them even more enthusiastic to chase down the creation
of a nuclear weapon, because we're showing them
that, you know, you'll...
Like, we're not going to do anything.
Yeah, that will actually become your friend if you continue to pursue this, and it doesn't
matter.
Well, it's like, it won't matter.
But it's like, I mean, look, the whole North Korean thing is the product of one man's
you know, Megalomania and his belief that, you know, people like him,
Jungler, are like, worth being buddies with for some reason. Like, I don't really understand it.
I mean, I should, I don't understand. It's just he does not see anything that anyone has other
than power. And he will attack people with it or he will befriend them, no matter which
wayver direction he thinks will get him closer to their power. So I think, so Lauren, I were talking
about this before I went to bed last night, and I think like,
I think the way to best understand the view of essentially like the people in power in this
country right now, and the Republicans largely is sort of like caveman thinking, which is like
all that matters is like hoarding resources and power, and everybody else is like, you know,
everybody else was like outside the cave,
you know, it was like, should be clubbed, right?
And like, I do think that like,
I do think that like at a base level,
like there are only two motivating factors
for the Republican Party, which is like money and power.
And everything else, their opinion is like,
if you don't have, if you will not like join us
in our pursuit of money and power,
then like your rights as a human, like your humanity is insignificant and unrelated
to like our cause.
And like everything about their actions suggests this is the case.
Like, I mean, we were talking about religion and it's like, well, a lot of the time I
were religion, I don't believe for a fucking second that 90% of these Republicans that
talk about religion give a shit about God or Jesus or the Bible.
I think that it's a tool to manipulate people
and a tool to justify actions that otherwise
are unjustifiable.
And so like, if you look at what's going on in these detention,
I mean, I'm willing to come to detention centers.
We should actually refer to them as concentration camps
because that's what they are.
If you look at what's going on, I mean, the government,
our government, our White white house literally argued in court
that it did not have a responsibility to provide soap
or toothbrushes or beds to the people
that it was detaining.
I mean, there cannot be a better articulation
of inhumanity or inhumane treatment than that,
which is like children, actual fucking children,
are sleeping on stone floors with no way to wash themselves,
and we think that's an acceptable treatment of other people.
They, they were hobbligans think that's an acceptable treatment
of other people, and they think that way because they don't,
they think that because they don't really care.
They don't even think of them as people.
They think of them as like the subjugated,
like the things to be subjugated,
and in their pursuit of power and money,
whatever gets in the way and
whatever doesn't agree is just like outside, outside the cave, essentially, right? And
so I think that like, we have to stop thinking that like, the things that they, that these
people are reasonable. And we need to start thinking that they're an enemy.
The thing is, I feel like what we're talking around is that each of these philosophies, which is like
the pursuit of money and power, the pursuit of violence, like as an impulse, and it's an
impulse that you be happy to have and that like you encourage.
It all comes from like a philosophy of fear and a whole thing about like, they are so frightened of people who are different than them.
They're frightened that everything will decline
or that the bad times will come
and they're not gonna have all the money
and the power that they need to like fix it.
They're religious because they're fearful,
what if it's true, also like what will
other people think of me?
See, I think that I think you're giving them
a lot of credit that they don't deserve at this point.
I mean, I think that thing,
I think it all has a philosophy of fear for the base
and even for the sociopaths at the top.
But because the thing is Republicans are the,
when they say that they're being discriminated against
or oppressed in some way,
it comes from a place of like, they're scared that they're going to lose this quote-unquote
privilege that other people don't have or that other people will get it and it won't make
them special anymore. And that is the way that their reactions operate. Whereas when we say that
someone's being oppressed or discriminated against, usually comes from a place of trying to
advocate for them because we hope that it will get better for them.
You know what I mean?
I think, yeah, but I think that, yeah, but I think there's something really disingenuous about the idea that they are scared.
I think that there is no. I don't think that there's a fear. I think that you could maybe, you could go and find, and I think you would find with a lot of the people who vote for the Reddit.
That's what I mean.
Like, mention the condoms.
I mean, for the passage of the...
For the feel fear. I think there are a lot of people, I think there are a lot of people who would say who are
ignorant and fearful and therefore they vote along like the ignorant fearful lines,
but like I'm talking about the people in power and I think that like there's one thing to say
like to try to speak to the people who aren't in power, but the people in power, I don't think we should have any illusions
about their motivation. I don't think that there is, I don't think that the people who want
to put immigrants in cages and have them sleep on floors are like, well, we're scared that
if we let them in, that they will somehow mess up our country. I think that what they're
actually the truth is, the truth of the matter is, that there are fearful people at the bottom
and that there are sociopaths within the party,
usually at the top, that are manipulating that group
because they understand that they're the most easily
manipulated group of people in the world.
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Security person, if you're upper level in the military,
a lot of those people operate from a place where they're easily exploitable
because they're, they're basically terrified of people that they don't understand
because they don't know.
No, I think that's fair.
I think that's fair, but I think like, listen, I mean,
if you, if you, there's a group of people that is going to
I mean, exploited it from people at the top is what
I mean, yeah, that's definitely true. That's definitely true. But
like, if you're if you work at a, if you work at a border security
facility, whatever the fuck they're calling these, and you look
in in these, at these children being tortured, and you don't, you
don't feel what is a natural sensation, which is something here,
which is something here is wrong. You're either brainwasher.
You're broken and there's really no, there's really no other way to be like all those women who
are letting themselves be branded and nexium or like all the Scientology people that like that full,
I think that you're so brainwashed and you've been so manipulated by a bunch of like charismatic
sociopaths who are only concerned with getting power. And I think the reason that the democratic institution doesn't attract those sociopaths
quite as easily, not that we don't have our share, believe me.
But the reason that we don't attract quite so many and they don't become so popular
is that we're not operating from a place of like, we'll take any like strong men in
a storm.
Right.
I mean, listen, we like want builders to create things that are like better for
the future. I just, I feel like the whole world right now is just it's all part of a continuum.
And I want to be able to put my finger on what the fundamental like thing is at the core of
this because when I watch, right, like, like, what is the, what is the, I don't understand where
it's even coming from half of the time. Well, well, that, I is the, what is the, what is the, you know, what is, what is, what is,
what is it to be human?
I mean, what is humanity?
Like, what are we doing here?
Right?
Like, I think there's a philosophical, I think there are people who would argue there's
the, there's a philosophy of, of power, which is just essentially, um, it's, it essentially, it's survival of the fittest.
It's that the smartest and the strongest, some combination of those things will come out
on top.
And that's the arrangement of the world or of society that we should be focused on.
And that arrangement is, frankly, the thinking of Neanderthals.
I mean, that arrangement is the thinking of whatever it is
that is the worst of the human.
Yeah, I would argue, and I feel like a lot of Democrats
would argue that what a human is,
is something that has finally begun to rise above that philosophy
and will understand the value that everybody has.
And intrinsically, that's the stuff that gives you your humanity.
Like, this is the divide between, I think it's the fundamental.
This is like why I get so, I get so like frazzled at the arguments about,
like, no, I'm by the way, I don't think, again, I'm gonna say,
I think there are some great Democratic candidates running for president
and there are some less great ones.
But I think fundamentally, they have a different perspective on society,
even though they fuck things up in various ways.
Like, you know, Kamala Harris, you can say she's fucked
certain things up and you can say Biden has fucked
a bunch of things up and you can say Bernie does things
that are bad and war and those things that are bad
or whatever, but fundamentally,
I believe there is like a pursuit to like,
discover like the best of humanity in like,
pretty much everybody.
Whereas like with the Republicans,
I think there is a pursuit to like divide up people
in groups of we think these are the best over here
with their potential realized and over here
are the not the best that we need to like shun and push out.
And like that's, you know, that's like,
it's like a wonderful like root of all of the greatest
like hates in the world.
I think Nazism is based on this sort of fundamental idea that there are people who are intrinsically
flawed that must be shunned from society.
This is like, you go like, people in the Middle East are intrinsically, you've heard,
but this has to be people like Ben Shapiro say that.
And this is also the whole argument first.
The Arabs, Which is like,
of course, it's like there because everyone in there deserves to be there.
Right. Right. And it's like, and it's like, it's like, there's just an intrinsically,
uh, there's like a fundamental flaw in like a group that cannot be changed or cannot be,
uh, cannot be considered in any other way. I'm afraid about changing. It's like, it just is there and it will always be there and therefore,
like, there's just a decline. Which is just not easy. I think we're just eugenic. No, it about changing, it's like, it just is there, and it will always be there and therefore like there's just a decline.
Which is just not see,
I think we're just eugenic.
No, it is, but again,
I'm saying like this goes to some lizard brain shit.
Like this is not intelligent.
You can describe it in intelligent ways.
You can like put Jordan Peterson's on the stage
to like give you words that make it sound scientific
and like you can get like political pundits, like Ben Shapiro to say words that sound it sound scientific. And like you can get like political pundits like Ben Shapiro
to say words that sound somehow scientific.
But the reality is like it is like lizard brain thinking,
which is like I'm strong and tough and need to be on top
and these people are weak and flawed and need to be on the bottom
or need to be destroyed.
And like the reality is like that is the world
that we're operating in right now.
I don't think there is a lot of,
I think if you get right down to that underlying that
thing that you're talking about, that underlying motivation of why it is this way right now, yes,
fear is a part of it.
It grins as a part of it.
I think the way people have been raised, they're upbringing and they're understanding of society,
of course, a part of it.
I think it can be change.
I think people can come from one way to the other,
but I don't think that it's that complicated.
I think it's just like, and I'm not saying it's even good or evil.
Like, I'm not saying that there's like,
even I'm not even making a judgment call on this.
I think it's just literally that like,
the thinking of this group of people
is fundamentally like the thinking of like a caveman mentality,
of like a lizard brain mentality,
which is like, I must be on top and control,
and other people who are not that must be destroyed.
And I think like, that is as much as we need to know
about people like Donald Trump,
and the people he surrounds himself with.
You know, and they can paint their motivations
in all sorts of different colors. But I do think
it's like power and money, of course, is deeply connected to power in the world. And that's
not an accident. And so it's power and money. It's control of those things at all costs,
which is why they will back anybody and say anything, which is why the evangelical Christians
that will tell you about the sins of the flesh and embrace Trump, art must be seen as like the insane hypocrites
and liars that they are because what they really want is control and power and probably money,
which is a part of having control and power.
And like anyhow, the long and short of it is like it's very fucking hard to wake up every
day.
It's very hard to go to bed every night in the world that we live in.
It's hard to talk about things like gadgets and games, which we love to talk about when
like I'm literally reading articles
about how they're a fucking children,
the age of my daughter being fucking abused
in detention centers in America,
which are essentially concentration camps.
And I know that the people in power
don't have designs to help them
or make them better or get them into a place
that will be good for them or protect them in any way.
And the reasons are very simple. And like the only thing we can do to stop it is to get them into a place that will be good for them or protect them in any way. And the reasons are very simple.
And like the only thing we can do to stop it is to get them out of power.
And every day it seems like we were increasingly like further away from that.
So anyhow, this is an upbeat episode of tomorrow.
I think the thing is we try really hard.
And I certainly am extremely conscious of, I don't want anyone to tune in and
hear just two people panic every
week about the end of the world, but at the same time, and so an active pursuit of
lighter stories and stuff to talk about, but at the same time, like, if a few
things happen in a week and one of them is like cataclysmically bad on like a
global scale, and the other stuff is like later, it's just like, it's like hard to
authentically talk about. I mean, it's, it's really tough. Like if you look at, if you look
at what's going on in the world, it's just really tough to like. Think about anything else. I mean,
John, this is insane for me to say, but I was watching like TV with John the other day, and I
paused it. It was something apocalyptic. I went and been handling this tale. And I was saying like, you know,
if everything gets really bad,
I'm kind of gonna be on the front lines of being screwed
just from the fact that I need a medication
that, you know, I'm gonna need to have.
So like when things start getting bad,
just stuff like that, I'm like,
we're gonna be screwed first.
He's like, do you think about that constantly?
And I was like, yeah, you don't think about like
buying handcranks or like where you would go if there was a terror attack somewhere in the city.
Like, you don't think about that all the time. And he was like, I mean, he was like,
crosses my mind, but not every day. And I was like, I can't think about anything else at the moment
because like, it just feels practical at this point. Like, I could feel like I was diluting myself if I wasn't understanding that there are several
scenarios very close to happening where things get really bad.
I'm trying not to take it for granted, I guess, but I don't know if I'm creating a complex
that's irritating to be around.
Do you know what I mean?
Does it matter?
I don't think it's fair.
I mean, at this point, like, I'm sorry,
but I don't think it's fair to be reasonable
for other people's comfort.
Yeah, and it doesn't even feel like,
you know what I mean?
I understand for John.
I mean, I understand for John,
but I'm just saying like,
it's like, one of the reasons I started the outline,
one of the reasons, I kind of of backed away from tech for a while.
I mean, one was like, I felt like it was really boring.
And to some extent, I still feel like the coverage
is very boring of technology,
which is why we're working on something new.
That's not boring.
But like, and not boring.
But also one of the reasons was like,
we were coming to a point in the world I felt like
where it was hard, for me
at least it was hard to ignore, like to act like, to like write a thing about tablets or whatever
on a day when... And this happened even as we were covering things. I mean, there was a point
of which technology was the biggest thing happening in the news. Like, it was the biggest society change
that we had ever seen. And over the course of that period, where the change was so rapid, technology was the biggest thing happening in the news. Like it was the biggest society change
that we had ever seen.
And over the course of that period,
where the change was so rapid and so structural
that that was a fascinating thing to cover.
And it's not that it isn't anymore.
It's just that it's in a different way.
There was also a long period where,
you know, post financial crisis, post George W. Bush, like the early Obama years
into like the kind of middle and towards, you know, obviously even towards the end of
his presidency, that things had gotten like, things had started to like stabilize it a
bunch of ways that they were, that had felt like during George W. Bush's reign of terror that they could not. You know, the iPhone was introduced at the end of George W. Bush's time in office, which
was one of the most catastrophic eight years of American history.
And it was it introduced at the beginning of the election of Barack Obama, which was
an unbelievable, like unfathomable moment in American politics
and for the world, which is like we elected a black man as president in a country that literally
had enslaved black people not that long ago. And that was like, the president had been white
in male for the entire history of the country. And so, and we had just, like, there was all sorts of things
that were happening.
We were coming out of a financial crisis.
We had regulated, we started to regulate banks in a way
that they had never been regulated.
We had, we started to push and pass laws,
like getting there, right?
It was all hope and change stuff.
It was like, the arc of the history
bends towards justice thing where, like, we felt like
the world was going to keep getting better
We were gonna keep improving. We were gonna solve climate change
Like I really had faith in our bet of we will out innovate and out perform and we will like all grow as people
Not that like utopia where there wouldn't be
Stumbling blocks, but I really truly had faith that scientists would you know
Science would be pushed to the forefront to save the human race because it's the most important battle of our generation and be stumbling blocks, but I really truly had faith that scientists would, you know,
science would be pushed to the forefront
to save the human race
because it's the most important battle of our generation.
And now, like, even just with climate change stuff,
it's like, I don't think that's happening.
And like, I have lost, it has broken me in a way that like,
I mean, say what you will about Obama,
he, there was an aspect of his leadership
that was based on intellect and intellectual thinking
and intellectual evaluation of things
that were like facing the world.
And I mean, he was in a very difficult position.
I think he had a party of the Republicans
that they had one goal during his presidency,
which was to stop
his, uh, any initiative that he had from, from making its way into law. And they worked very hard at that. I mean, they worked very hard at that to the point of blocking a Supreme Court nomination,
you know, 18 months prior to, um, an election, you know, or however many months it was a months, it was over a year, I believe,
as if that was some basis for blocking.
And I mean, it really corrupts stuff.
I mean, truly corrupt shit happened to upend the agenda of the president.
And so, I think that there was an, there was, there was, there was an intellectual sort of aspect to his leadership that has been, had been lacking, deeply lacking in George W. Bush
and is obviously deeply lacking in Trump.
But the point is, like, there was a feeling that we were moving in an interaction of like,
there was a progressive movement.
Now, it wasn't like perfect, but it was a, it was certainly like leaning in the right
direction in many ways. So anyhow, like, so, so when you think about it, the beginning of his presidency coincides with the
beginning of the kind of modern way of technology, and there's an optimism about all of it. By the way,
this was like an age where Facebook and Twitter were brand new to many people, and there was
an optimism about it. This was like, there was an excitement about these things. We weren't like
Amazon is bad, and Google is bad, and things. We weren't like, Amazon is bad
and Google is bad and Facebook needs to be stopped and what is Apple doing? And it's like, it was
like actually we're all like, wow, this could lead to something amazing. And I think it's interesting
how much the decline of all of this has dovetailed with, you know, what's happened in politics. And I
don't think it's an accident that we look at the people who are in power in many ways
and say, wait a second, are they abusing that power
that they have, and have we changed our sort of perspective
on what the potential of those people are based on,
either who the people are or the ways
that they use the power that they have.
And I think like so anyhow, so it is fitting, I believe that, I don't know, in many
ways, like you go back to when Trump was elected, you go back to that era, you go back to
the years leading up, the couple of years leading up of the really ugly campaigning and bad
politics of this country and bad faith politics. You know, part of the reason I was like,
I don't feel like I can sit and talk about like,
phones every day was a product of that.
And like, I still feel that to some extent.
And I do think we have to have a new perspective
on a lot of this stuff, but like I will say that
it's tough to like do a podcast where it's
ostensibly we're supposed to talk about like
interesting pop culture shit.
And you know, with a side of politics sometimes,
and like on a day like today or a week like this week,
it's very difficult to ignore the realities,
which is like we are in crisis in this country.
And like the only people who don't think we're in crisis
are people who either are too ignorant
and not paying attention or truly don't care and support the crisis
that we're heading towards.
And that's the only other,
I think it's the only way you can slice it.
So, you know, like, yeah, not to be a bomber,
but like, shit's pretty fucked up.
You know what Ryan, you need to calm down.
So, do you think that this Taylor Swift video
is a metaphor for peace in the Middle East? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha for peace in the Middle East? Ha ha ha ha.
I mean, I think this is a good example of
some fucking horse shit, some marketing ass horse shit.
I mean, look, clearly we're very upset.
But then, you know, also,
maybe we need to calm down.
Maybe we need to calm down.
Maybe we need to just take a minute
and watch, you know, three minutes of Taylor Swift
pretending to be an ally.
And, you know,
this Taylor Swift thing, I'm operating from a place of like,
yes, there are definitely critiques and notes
that I would give her on if she wants to be a supportive
member of the company.
I thought she directed her own video.
That's my favorite part of it.
She's like, I'm a director too.
She's like, actually, I need to take,
oh, as much credit as possible for this new Taylor Swift
that we're experiencing.
I love that when celebrities,
because they're been praised endlessly in a couple ways,
pivot, and they have the same level of confidence,
like Taylor Swift is a director.
Ashton Kutcher is an angel investor.
I mean, I mean, he actually is,
like, I mean, I think he actually now just does that pretty much full
time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you know what I mean?
But whether or not it ends up landing, the big, strong pivot, the like, I'm a real house
life now, I'm a pop star.
Like that pivot is a tough one to land.
And some, they're going to be more successful than others, but the idea that Taylor Swift
is like, not only am I now an expert on gay rights,
I'm also a director.
And it's like,
is this her, is this her,
she's coming out, right?
Is this what's happening?
Is this all a precursor?
If this doesn't end in a coming out,
it will be way more egregious than...
Isn't this like the,
I feel like this is like the undercurrent,
like one of the undercurrent rumors of Taylor Swift
is that she's actually like,
at least not, maybe not gay,
but not totally straight and has been kind of like.
My place is wearing Carly Crosse.
Yeah, wow, okay, that's a vivid,
wow, vivid imagery that is not made for work.
But like, I do, I'm sorry, like where the fuck was this Taylor Swift when there was a serious
election going on in this country that was like very much about, very much about like the
subjugation of like gay people and trans people and people of color in like Taylor Swift
was like, I don't get involved in politics.
But I can't get down on her learning from that experience
and now wanting to be active.
What I can get down on is the blatant,
like mid 2000s gay best friend vibe of it all,
the like showing up in gay spaces
and not bringing other gay,
or any queer artists,
like to show up at Stonewall and perform,
I get what you were trying to do,
but what would have been better
as if you did your Taylor Swift,
please welcome to the stage thing
and then have on some like collaborators
that are part of the queer community
to lend your power in that way.
Also, all of this whole discussion,
it's like, I can't believe that we're having
it when like the world, the climate is like, we can be mad about multiple things at once,
but also another part of me is like, oh, I'm sorry, she doesn't helping in the right way,
but at least she's trying to help. But then the whole other flip side of this is like,
Taylor Swift is a marketing machine and she is a corporation. And at the end of the day,
Walmart showing up at Pride
does not make Walmart a queer ally.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So it's this whole thing is just weird.
It's all just, it's all of putting.
I mean, there was that amazing piece
that was on the outline this week that was about
Raytheon, Raytheon mentioned queer pride or whatever.
Yeah, by George Severus.
And it was great because it was really.
Raytheon said gay rights, all right, yeah. Yeah, by George Severus. And it was great because it was really- Rayfion said gay rights, sorry, yeah.
Yeah, it was, it was, it really pointed out that the more corporations twist and bend
themselves to obscure the fact that they're corporations, the more harm it does to us,
even though we ask them to do it because we're like, why don't you put trans women of color
in your ads?
So they do next to like two white dude pop stars
or movie stars and then they take your dollars
during Pride Month and that's the end of that transaction.
What did you get from it?
I mean, yeah, it's like on the one hand, it's hard to,
I mean, this maybe this is the thing about Taylor Swift
and her video or whatever is like,
it's hard to knock what is essentially like the right attitude, like somebody being like,
okay, well, I'm going to embrace this because it's...
I mean, she got a bunch of money for glad and signatures for, you know, her legislation.
But at the flip side of that is it's like, but if you really are an ally, it won't hurt you to take
of some critiques. And I don't think her fans, it's the same thing between pop star fans and
political fans because on the internet, everybody's famous, but also that means that when you decide you're
obsessed with somebody, you stand them super hard.
And like people have become like these like factions of warring whatever.
And it's like, I can give Taylor some notes and still like quote unquote support her.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I guess so.
I mean, it's the same thing with the political candidates.
Yesterday I met with a friend who said, now I know you hate Bernie, but was
gonna tell me something good about him. And I said, I don't hate Bernie. I don't hate any,
I think, of the Democratic, like this could serious contenders. Obviously, I hate Howard
Schultz. I don't like flat out hate Joe Biden. I just have some notes for everybody,
and I have the most notes for Joe Biden,
and I have a fair number of notes for Bernie.
I have some notes for Elizabeth.
I can critique these people in a place of good faith,
and in fact, it's like our duty as voters to do that,
to like critique everybody.
This is what I said about Hillary and Bernie during that run,
and both sides freaked out on me for like,
either of them.
I mean, how do you, but there's nuances,
like, nuance is lost.
I mean, you can't, you can't be like, look,
I mean, I've put it in this innumerable,
there've been innumerable conversations
on this podcast about this, but it's like,
I am for a non-Trump person winning the presidency.
I have very, actually, like at this point,
don't have a lot of preference,
except that there is going to be a non-Trump person
who can win, that doesn't stand for the kinds of things
that Trump stands for.
And I think largely, like I would say,
every Democratic candidate is in that bucket.
Give or take, you know?
There are some I like a lot better than others.
But yeah, all of them, we should have be able to say it
to all of them, like, there are some things you could work on. And what Taylor's just doing with
this song is a political act. So it is okay for us to critique the politics of it because
it's like life or death for us. And for her, it's a single, she really is. But the career
question is, how's the song? What's your opinion on the song? It sounds like a pastiche of
all the everything else she's ever done. Plus a little like your baby or a firework.
Yeah.
You're in there for good measure.
I think you have Katy Perry's in the video in there.
Yeah, they finally have buried the hatchet.
The point of her gay rights song and gay rights anthem
and all of her activism was for her to be seen
hugging Katy Perry.
I think we can all agree.
But maybe it's just good for like the people,
for people who are uncomfortable with gay people.
And they love Taylor Swift,
and they're like, they need a bridge.
I mean, maybe,
because Taylor's had haters,
maybe I'm a hater of gay people.
Because there's been a lot of critique,
but we're talking this much about it.
There's been a lot of critique of the whole concept
of you need to calm down. like this dismissive kind of like,
oh, well, we're actually talking about like people being murdered,
like this isn't like, this is like that kind of language
is so tepid and irresponsible.
It's also an attempt to look reasonable
while tone policing somebody.
Yeah, I mean, the you need to calm down
is aimed at the haters, not at the people experiencing the hate,
but it's still like, right?
I mean, it's like not aimed at the people who are upset.
Yeah, I think it's basically just aimed at,
because that's the vagary of the message in the song.
It's like, you are obsessed with me
because I'm like a famous woman,
but like, you need to calm down.
Is the same thing as like being bullied
for your sexuality or gender identity?
Like, that's the weird thing.
It's tellers like, I get what you guys,
what you girls have been through.
Do you know what I mean?
That's like vibe of it all.
Yeah, I just think,
it's like what is the,
maybe this is the on ramp,
but maybe this is like I should be excited about this
because it's the on ramp for people
who truly have bad opinions right now to be like,
wait, maybe my opinions are actually bad
and I can interrogate and investigate that a little bit
now because I've been like, been let under the,
you know, inside the tent here through this like very
tepid, half-assed, like Taylor Swift thing,
I mean, not that they would think that,
but like, maybe it's like, it's like,
oh, wait, now I can like evaluate some of my opinions
and maybe they're really not that good
because it's like a relatively safe space
for people who have bad opinions to feel like.
I do think about that a lot.
Is there, we need to create spaces for people
with bad opinions to pivot?
Do you know what I mean?
Like to pivot, to pivot, not feel like they're in bear.
Like not under attack.
Like to, to, to, to,
cause I do think there is a,
I do think there are people who would like,
given the opportunity and the argument
without feeling attacked might be like, let me think about what I was saying is a, I do think there are people who would like, given the opportunity and the argument without feeling attacked
might be like, let me think about what I was saying or thinking.
And is it actually good or right?
And in the right circumstances,
I think there are these circumstances.
They might be like, you know what?
I'm wrong, this is stupid.
I need to rethink it.
I need to reevaluate.
I need to learn some stuff.
And like they actually will and become better people for it.
I think that's completely possible.
Who of us has not evolved in their beliefs in life?
Like I can't imagine that anybody would argue
that they have not had a belief
that has changed or evolved over time.
I mean, I used to just hate the Swedes.
Yeah.
Right, and now that you find them like remotely tolerable,
you know what you're thinking?
Yeah, I met Magnus and I said,
this has been a subhuman.
We all agree that he's like, if he's, you know, you're thinking? Yeah, I met Magnus and I said, this isn't a sub-hugel. We all agree that he's like,
if he's, you know, an example of a Swedish person,
I think we can learn to live with them.
But yeah, I think like the thing is,
so maybe this is the on ramp.
I don't really know.
I don't know.
Let's talk about Kendall Jenner.
Do you want to hit by him?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's the first slide.
I think we're out of this.
We gotta talk about Kendall Jenner.
I know. So this is like a thing that Ryan just Kendall Jenner. I know.
So this is like a thing that Ryan just introduced to me.
I didn't see this at all, but like Kendall Jenner was seen.
I don't even understand the circumstances of this.
Like she just like happened to be like.
So she took a picture of herself on a security camera, buying a can of vanilla, orange
vanilla coke, which I just saw for the first time by the way in public, that the soda, not candle
generous security picture or whatever. And then it like turns out that like her
outfit in the picture perfectly matches the can of the code.
And she's holding it label out, which if you know anything about a can of soda,
yeah, it's like, yeah, that's not pointing at her.
You need to like, you need to do it. Like, yeah, I mean, it's not something that just happens.
Um, the, the, the, the interesting thing is she was a Pepsi spokesperson,
uh, like officially, as far as we know, right?
And did this horrible disaster of a commercial with Pepsi as well,
all we all recall, I think about a year ago, uh, and it's like,
it's like she solves like, um, she solves like,
immigration, immigration, And it's like, she solves like immigration.
She solves like immigration riots. But like, there's not even the politics,
if you look in the video, the politics are like people
holding up clapboards with like a peace sign on it.
Like it's like this to the air.
It's like I would say the politics in the video
and it's great to go back and revisit it if you haven't.
It's like, it's like young woke people, young woke people with diverse woke people who have
a vague thing they're mad about versus authoritarian cops and the like, maybe guys who wear ties.
There might be people comfortable on a riot.
Yeah, there might be a moment in the video,
I don't recall there's an extended version
where maybe like some guys who are wearing like wearing ties,
like take their ties off and join the protest.
I'm not really sure.
It's like stuff like that though.
It's that kind of vague, like it's a movie.
I was in the liberal coffee shop just reading this book
and then I was taken by the spirit of revolution.
Yeah, revolution.
Right.
But the revolution.
The piece.
Right, it's like, it's like, we're for peace
and understanding and we're woke and diverse
and then there's like the cops.
And then Kendall Jenner's like,
Hey, everybody have a Pepsi and it'll,
everything will be okay.
And then everybody has a Pepsi and it's like,
Wow, what were we fighting about black lives do matter?
And then the other people, the woke people are like actually blue lives matter too.
And they're like, nice.
And it's like, wow, we did it, everybody.
Um, and that's like the Pepsi video.
So anyhow, in the end, I think they all form a human centipede.
It didn't, that's right.
That's right.
They do it.
And they straight it all the way through.
That's right.
It's beautiful.
Disgusted.
How dare you?
Anyhow, so now she's like drinking a Coke and has a address to match and it's like,
wow, she's like come over to the other side.
And but it also is doing like a stealth Instagram ad,
which is like honestly a pretty good,
I don't know, it's a pretty good use of like both Instagram
and security cameras.
And I'm gonna follow Kendall Jenner now.
I'm just gonna like, I wanna keep up with this.
I wanna see if it unfolds.
What's funny is that she did the most, like,
balls out add with the Pepsi Ed.
And now she's doing this, like,
what I think was supposed to be, like,
ultra-subtle, like, you know, association placement
or whatever, and now, because everyone noticed
how, like, staged it all is,
it's now its own little, like, viral. I mean, it's very unusual. I mean, it's now its own little viral.
I mean, it's very unusual.
I mean, it's very funny.
Anyhow, I didn't get it.
Listen, nobody wants to buy soda from Kendall Jenner.
I think that's the good good thing.
I don't know.
I mean, it's definitely raising awareness
of Orange Vanilla Coke, which is a very ideal.
Orange Vanilla Coke is that?
Which is exactly like,
chup for gum tomorrow. which is like brought to you by
yeah, this segment wasn't ad. I think I think but that's exactly it isn't it man.
Isn't it? That's it. Yeah. This is the point is that here we are the awareness has been raised.
The right vanilla code right now right now all eight listeners of the tomorrow podcast
are like are craving are googling and craving
delicious orange vanilla coke.
And you know, it does also come in a zero variety
with Neil calories.
Does it?
Oh, hello.
I'm here for that.
Here for it.
At any rate.
All right, what else is going on? What else is, is there anything upbeat that we can talk about?
Is there anything cool happening?
Hmm, stranger things, trailer drops.
Oh, yes, this is all I live for now.
The, oh my God, oh my God.
Did you hear that?
I heard like a shuttle.
A bird just flew into the window that I'm sitting
one foot from like
smashed into it
It's hair is all messed up. I see it right now
It's a it's alive. How Hitchcock is this is fucking that was fucking terrifying
Didn't it see my big stupid head sitting here? Why would it even try to fly towards me was the bird trying to get me?
The bird seems to be okay. I'm very rattled
Very, I think that bird had it out for you
Oh my god, is the bird Republican?
It's the bird a Trump operative. What's going on?
It's a swifty. That's fucking terrifying. Um, anyhow, sorry. Let's get I'm just gonna try to refocus
I'm gonna I'm gonna come back got it, you know, whatever they do when it's like you gotta get your, do your scene.
Very appropriate to a bird flying right at you
into a window, Stranger Things 3 trailer drive.
Oh yes, yes.
I was saying as the bird flew into the,
which is very Stranger Things-y, by the way.
Yeah, I can make sure you think about that.
I'm living the,
It's as if truth is stranger than fiction.
The peace of pop culture I'm now,
that is not giving me like reason to go on
is like,
I just saw the new Stranger Things trailer
and it's really good.
And it, and frankly, like I will say this
about Stranger Things.
Like I don't think they've done a very good job
of explaining like the mythology or the science
or the meaning of like the enemy in Stranger Things.
Like I don't really know.
Like in this Stranger things, apparently the bad guy
has a voice and is like talking about stuff,
but I don't have any recollection of the bad guy
having a voice and talking about stuff
to anybody in the other Stranger Things series.
So I'm like a little bit lost as to like who,
like I understand there's like a monster,
but I feel like they're now making it seem like there's like
a actual villain that has like,
I thought like the whole stranger.
The Darth Vader of Streamer.
Yeah, well I thought the monster was based in some ways,
like we could, whatever it's called the Demogorgon
or whatever they call it, that like that was like the,
the Darth Vader.
So there's an Emperor Palpatine in the dark, in the Stranger Things universe that's like controlling. And then it's more like Palpatine in the stranger things universe that's
like controlling.
And there's also like an existential
horror thing because it's like all
there's this other dimension where
everything is bad that could leak in at
any time kind of thing.
Yeah, which is like fine, but is there
a like there's one thing about like
and by the way if you've ever seen the
great film The Miss, which I highly
recommend, the plots are very similar
which is that,
like essentially a portal is open to another reality
that is full of scary motherfuckers that are like-
It's never a better reality.
It's never like, it's never like,
it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, like animalistic hell world, where like the animals all want to kill everything and also
they're like disgusting monsters.
And like, so, but anyhow, it seems like it's very similar, but now it seems like maybe
there is like some mind that is like want something, which is correct me if I'm wrong,
has never been explored in any of the Stranger Things series that have previously existed.
So I don't know what's going on, but I'm excited to see it,
and I will definitely watch it aggressively,
as aggressively as possible.
And I'm excited.
You know, I don't know what else there is to say,
really, except that I think we're due
for some escapism, and there's not a lot of options
at this point.
You know, we're like, oh, let's watch the handmaid's tail,
and it's like, wait a second.
Hey, this is art.
It's more like arm-aid's tail, you know what I mean?id's tail and it's like wait a second. Hey, this is art. It's more like our maids tail.
You know what I mean?
That's a big sense.
Hey, I don't want to learn future history.
Yeah.
No, I just thought it was a great onion headline actually.
It was like John Bolton warns that I wore with a ran only way to avenge the deaths
of soldiers killed in the future wore with a ran.
It's like a really good.
Good. Anyhow. All right. What else is going on anything else?
The Xbox is apparently they they act the lower end model of the new one
So we're just they're just gonna balls out sell the expensive big one
Hmm, and they're pushing back on the X-Cloud developments
So apparently that won't be coming as quickly as everyone had hoped
Who's gonna take on the switch? That's what I want to know while we're getting a gadget talk finally
This is what the people paid their good money for who's gonna who's gonna is anybody gonna take a run at the switch
My favorite murder when people go for 45 minutes and you're like you haven't talked about a murder yet. Yeah
Yeah, exactly
Taking on the switch I don't I don't think anyone's doing it. No one's gonna take a run at the switch.
No one's gonna do their Neo Geo Pocket.
Nobody's doing their one underwater.
Vita too, Vita too.
I'm not hearing it.
I haven't heard anything about anything handheld.
The only things in the portable side
have been like Google Stadia
and like best of luck using that on the subway.
Yeah, I don't really know.
And also there's like a rumor of like a smaller switch,
like Switch Jr. or something.
And Switch, like big brother.
Like it's fine.
Pro.
I'm ready for it.
They're putting the Witcher on Switch, Witcher 3,
which is like, I mean, we talked about this,
I think last episode, but it's like,
it looks like a fairly good port.
It's fine, it's fine.
But like, if there's like a Switch with more power,
that would be cool too.
Like every really into that.
Like that would be a fucking great thing.
And yeah, I don't know what to say.
Like I mean, the Xbox thing does nothing for me.
I have internal Xbox on in like six months
and like I, that's sad for the actual.
I never use it.
I never use it.
My brother who has like a dad been a diehard Xbox person
has an Xbox one and like I offered at Christmas
to buy him another console and he was like,
no, I'm fine with this. And I was like, okay.
And he asked me the other day,
do you ever play on your Xbox?
I never see you on it.
And I was like, no, and he was like, why not?
I was like, because I'd rather play everything on the Switch.
And if I can't, the only exclusives I care about aren't PS4.
Yeah.
So, I don't know.
It's crazy.
That's kind of the state of that.
Yeah, look, it's a dark week.
Matt Buchanan, who's an editor at Eater, was at my house
yesterday.
He had an iPad and I was watching him work on it and it made me outraged.
So that hasn't, that's unchanged.
No.
That's unchanged.
But on the other hand, my mother, this, my mother's in town, this morning, she showed me
how she reads the newspaper and it's the most amazing thing.
She gets the Pittsburgh Post Gazette because they live in Pittsburgh. And they send her a link to a PDF, which is a PDF of the newspaper and it's the most amazing thing. She gets the Pittsburgh Post Gazette because they live in Pittsburgh and they send her a link to a PDF, which is a PDF of the newspaper,
and she reads the PDF on her iPad that's how she reads the newspaper. Oh my god. It's like a PDF
of the newspaper. Like it's like, it's like, it's like, there's like an article on the front page.
It's like, continue doing like, for a or whatever, like, there's no link or anything. It doesn't
expand. It just, you have to like scroll down to the next,
like to that section of the paper to read it,
just like the paper.
And I gotta tell you it wasn't that bad.
I kind of enjoyed it.
It was very not online.
It's like, it's a real, it's an crazy anachronism.
It's like, you know, it's like somebody
would have been out of pocket watch.
It's like, yeah. Or it would be like would be not a pocket watch. It's like, yeah.
Or it would be like, if I digitized a bunch of VHS tapes
and then burned them to DVDs and then through the VHS tapes
out and put the DVDs in their ways.
I mean, that even makes a little bit more sense.
Like, this is like.
Why wouldn't I just put it in the cloud or like,
on my computer?
It's just like, I mean, I will say in one way,
it's kind of like it makes sense
because the websites are just, in some ways, newspapers,
just like, many of them are just like a version
of newspapers.
This is like a less digital newspaper,
but still like in a relatively digital form.
Anyhow, it's, I mean, to print out essentially,
it's like she printed out the newspaper
and it's reading it, but it's not printed out,
it's on an iPad. So that was, that was an exciting discovery for me this morning.
That's astonishing. It was somewhat astonishing and shocking and you know, I'm, I'm into it.
I mean, that might be how I start reading the news. It like, it definitely is like,
changes the whole like process of reading a story for better or worse. I'm not really sure.
Well, the benefit of the newspapers, you had to scroll past things. You might not otherwise
even. That's right. Glantz. Well, it has the ads to the newspaper. Somebody was like,
I tweeted about it. They're like, well, at least it doesn't have ads. I'm like, no, it has the
newspaper ads. Has like full, how does she full-page newspaper ads? I mean, half of the joy of
the newspaper is coupons. What are you
gonna do? I don't know coupons. No coupons. No coupons. No coupons. Well, let's talk about
nice things. Should we do it? Let's just get into it. Let's just, I'm ready. Yeah.
All right, I'll go first for the first time ever. How about that? How about that? I bought
a PlayStation 4 on eBay with PT installed. I did it, I did it, I did it, I said,
I was talking about it, I was toying with it,
I was fooling around and then I saw one
and I bought it on a whim, I was probably drinking.
I bid, I put a high bid in and I won
and then the person canceled the bid,
they canceled the order or whatever.
And I was like, what the fuck?
And I emailed them, I'm like, what the hell?
But then I saw that they had relisted it
for like with a buy it now price,
which was less than my top bid, weird.
And I bought it.
And they were like, sorry, I just, your bid,
like I didn't get the money for it.
Which I think is like, that should be prevented on eBay.
But the important thing is that I got it,
it's sitting in a box right now,
I haven't opened it yet,
and I figure like, I'm gonna play it,
I'm gonna check it out,
and then like maybe give it to my brother who I bought,
this is actually to throw back to this.
I bought him an Xbox like a couple of years ago,
like an Xbox One,
and all of our friends were like,
why did you buy him an Xbox?
Everybody has a PlayStation, and I felt really bad in shitty
because I at the time I was playing Xbox a lot.
And so now like, you know, you can finally join,
you can join the PlayStation.
Oh, man, a day.
Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, I mean, that's my nice thing
and I feel really good about it.
Okay, so my nice thing are I, uh,
fuck, what were they?
Oh my god, what's wrong with my brain today?
I don't know.
I'm like spaced out.
I'm going to go on my nice day.
Oh, um, so I went home last weekend, as they said, for a family party.
And when I got to the party, I realized that we had not brought any of the vegetarian food
that we'd purchased.
So I didn't need anything, then I went home and then I just took the groceries home with
me.
So my mom had found impossible burgers.
And because they're like, weirdly hard to find outside of a restaurant setting.
So I ate those when I got home and I was like, hell, thaw, and yeah, this is the best thing
I've ever eaten in my life.
It was incredible.
So I've been going back to Whole Foods and buying the Beyond Burger
because I can't find the impossible ever and ever.
And the Beyond is also really good.
And I've been eating it.
It's good, it's solid.
For dinner every night.
Well, that's maybe too much beyond.
But I would just say that it's a solid choice
if you can't get in the Impossible Burger,
which you can't really buy right now.
Yeah, it was really good. The Impossible Burger was like on another level, but the Beyond
Burgers are good, so there was one thing. Oh, and the other thing is, it's an old stand-by,
but y'all, you got to watch the real house size of New York City.
Oh, I can't. I just discovered last night that the Vanderpump's, the Vander police of Vanderpump
is a real housewife.
Yeah, it's that correct?
It's been off.
And then I also discovered that I thought that all the
people in Vanderpump rules were members of the
Vanderpump family.
No.
It turns out like it's about like waiters at a restaurant
or something.
I have explained this to you.
I feel like I wasn't listening because I was like,
oh really?
It also makes the title a little bit more,
makes a little bit, it makes more sense.
You got to watch the show. I'm not going to, but I'm a glad to know a little bit.
The New York this season is surreal.
Their last night, a woman said that her dog, Died and it was very sad because all she wants to
do is have children and this was a really surrogate child for her. And she said, she ends in the door
with no hair or lashes, which is just like wild for her. And he said, she ends in the door with no hair or lashes,
which is just like wild for her.
And then she goes, I called 911, the firefighters came,
but they couldn't revive him.
Oh my God.
And she lives in a hotel.
Some of them, Laura said, oh, I mean, somebody said,
who was it?
On that show, they talked about somebody being like
gender liquid.
Oh, Sonia said, this one woman said, you know, I, I, she's like, I've dated men and women
mostly, I prefer to date men, but you know, I'm fluid.
And like weeks later, Sonia goes, well, you know, Barbara, she's got gender liquids.
Yeah, it's, it's said, I, I don't know.
Any man who can't give these shows a chance is not comfortable and is masculine at eight.
They're so good.
Brought to you by diet.
Sorry, brought to you by orange vanilla coke zero.
Yeah.
That's the only good thing in my life, I think.
It's very good.
Oh, and I listened to the Ron Burgundy podcast
and that was kind of fun.
It was a good, it's kind of funny.
It's definitely takes a. It's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,
definitely takes, it takes a little while to come together.
But when it does, it's really good. He had Deepak Chopra on and it was just really insane.
And so it's Will Farrell doing Ron Burgundy in character, fully in character.
Yes. And then real people.
Real people.
And he is, Ron Burgundy, if he, it's just as if he existed today, but had also existed
back then, like he just hasn't aged, but they don't address it.
It's like, it's like Austin Powers.
Yeah, like timeless, but they don't address it.
But it's him with interviewing real people.
And I think, obviously, the people know that they're going to get to a comical interview.
But there, some of these people seem really intent. He talked to a psychic
and she seemed really intent on discussing like metaphysics with Ron Burgundy and it was great.
Yeah. I um, I don't know. I mean, I'm, I'm, I would, I would listen to it, I guess.
He said, he was like, um, now, uh, what did he say? It was something like, he was like, now, what did he say?
It was something like, he was like,
now when you leave the house,
do you take your broomstick and she's like,
I'm not a witch.
And she was very sincerely trying to explain the difference
between like a self-identified witch
versus a self-identified psychic.
Well, it is.
It was amazing.
I mean, you don't wanna be misaligned by Ron Burgundy.
Like, I'm not a fairy.
I'm a nymph, I'm an imp.
We've all been there, huh?
We've all been there.
All right, we should wrap up.
I gotta get, my parents are,
apparently they're talking, they wanna go to the aquarium,
and I gotta put a stop to this before I get sucked
into some kind of hell world where I'm in an aquarium
with my parents, okay.
If you get stabbed by a stingray,
just leave the rights to input to me.
You actually, actually the aquarium we, is that's near us, you can touch a stingray, just leave the rights to input to meal. You actually, actually, the aquarium we,
is that's near us, you can touch a stingray,
which is pretty cool.
I don't think they like it, but you know,
whenever that's their problem.
I don't think the Irwin family appreciates that. Well, that is our show for this week.
We'll be back next week with more tomorrow and as always I wish you and your family the
very best. So I've just been informed that your family color
coordinated with Isoda for an Instagram post. But the soda was surge.
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