Tomorrow - 167: Fill the Void with Orange Soda

Episode Date: June 21, 2019

For the first 30 minutes of episode 167, Josh and Ryan attempt to cure the ills of humanity by Galaxy Brain-ing the worst people on planet earth. For the back 30 minutes, they discuss Taylor Swift, or...ange soda, and the movie Anchorman. This is just how life is now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey and welcome to Tomorrow, I'm your host Josh Watsapolski. Today on the podcast, we discuss the Middle East political theory and Orange Vanilla Coke. I don't want to waste one minute. Let's get right into it. All right, Ryan, we're back. It's another week. It's a week, both of where a lot happened and sort of nothing happened. This was the kind of week that really highlights for you that a week is a social construct.
Starting point is 00:00:52 What we think of as weeks are really just days put together in sets. And days are truly just a way of organizing the horrors that we continually experience. Yeah, that's right. You said horrors. Yeah, I just wanted to try. I'm not the horrors that we could take to your experience, that would be inappropriate. Anyhow, yeah, no, it's a week of, yeah, I mean, you know, it's a week.
Starting point is 00:01:17 It's a week of days, days made of hours, hours, which are of course a construct based on minutes. And I think we can agree that none of it means anything. I like that you ended up minutes because minutes are real. Whatever, minutes are the foundation of all reality. I think we know that anything sub minutes is not even a part of the conversation. I think where we have that. Seconds to me are just an illusion created to define minutes. You know?
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah. Anyhow, time is a construct and I would like to get out of it if it all Can I climb out of the construct and move on anyhow? All right, let's talk about what's going on this week I mean, let's should we just get out in front of this um The Iran the Iran war that's happening um apparently it isn't happening because an adult no No, no, no, it's not happening yet. It's not happening yet. But like, like, like, like, this is like, this is Bush, W, George W Bush, like 2.0. I mean, this is what happened in a second.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I mean, they went to war so that they could guarantee a hugely unpopular president could have a second term. Because it's very unlikely that a president is replaced during a time of war. They are desperate, they are dying. They are so, I've never met a group of people horny or for a international conflict, then the group of people that are currently
Starting point is 00:02:29 residing in the white. But I almost, and there's nothing I would ever forgive George Bush for, but I almost feel like this is worst because at least that was evil with like a plan to be evil. Like we're gonna go in there, we're gonna go guns blazing, we're gonna get some oil and we're gonna rally up the place. This we're gonna get some oil, and we're gonna rally up the base. This is just like a toddler who is like, I haven't pushed this button yet,
Starting point is 00:02:49 what are we at that time? Well, the amazing thing is that the Iranians are so smart, they're like, yeah, like let's do it, like bring it on, because they know that America's in free fall right now. So like the rest of the world can see America very clearly. And I think this is what is something that cannot be discounted. You have got to understand, we see it inside and we're like, wow, this is like chaos,
Starting point is 00:03:09 but we can fix it. But from the outside, this is the greatest thing that's ever happened to America from the perspective of anybody who doesn't like America. Because it looks like exactly what is happening, which is America. Even most countries that do like America would love to see us take it on the nose. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And every time it's like, yeah, like, maybe we deserve good. Yeah. Like you fucking, like you blew up your high horse. Now like you've got nothing. Now you're
Starting point is 00:03:33 laying in the ground. You're in a curl, defeatal position in the smithereens of the high horse that you are on. And people fucking love it. And in Iran. And by the way, like, I mean, I'm not saying there are, there's a bunch of great leadership folks over in, you know, I'm not saying that they're like buddies of mine or anything, but I'm just saying that they love poking America right now because America is in disarray and they know they can get a lot of runway out of it, you know, they've got a lot of runway here. They're like, oh yeah, like let's go to war and throw your country into total disarray and you can reelect this idea. Yeah, you guys destroying America. That's the thing that I so I got really booting college like people freaked out on me because no one can bill you on this podcast. about terrorism and like the effects of it and it's like psychologically and stuff. And I,
Starting point is 00:04:28 as you can imagine, was often vocal in the class. But, you know, we're having a group discussion, and I said that sometimes I wonder if like America taking the beat on 9-11 and deciding not just to like take action in some capacity, but to really blindly go into racist wars based on lies or just pure rage, didn't give the terrorists attacking that day like exactly what they want and make us look exactly how they thought that we looked. And like in some ways, we are more damage was done to America by like our reaction to what happened, then even what happened that day. I mean, in your dental and everyone in my college class really flipped out on me for that. But I, that was a genuine like, I'm not trying to press everybody off and be a troll look the 9-11 I mean the whole point of 9-11 was not to blow up a building
Starting point is 00:05:32 A building is a small thing in the grand scheme of war in the grand scheme of like an ideological battle The whole point of 9-11 was to do what exactly what happened after 9-11 Which was to send our country into a fucking tailspin and stick us in a war, an unwinnable war with the wrong enemy and lead us essentially to Trump, I mean, in many ways. Like, they basically wanted, they wanted economic collapse, they wanted to make us look like racists and reactionaries and war mongers and to flex on the world stage all our insane military just so that they could reveal that we're we have this and that we're ready to use. Do you know what I mean? And it just feels like we're being baited in the exact same
Starting point is 00:06:16 way. No, no, this is this is this is the amount in the area. We've got our own fascist situation going on, which is just, you know, them trying to point out like, democracy is just as bad kind of like bullshit. I mean, listen, I think we've seen the limits of whatever version of democracy we have in this country. Well, in this country, yes. But I think there is a version, versions of democracies that are functioning better, and that if you erode people's faith
Starting point is 00:06:45 in the concept at all then they won't update those institutions and those systems and maintain it because they won't love it anymore. You know what I mean? Like you critique and you work hard on the thing that you believe in and if we don't believe in democracy as a project and we, you know, we think we need a strong man leader who will push the button when it's like not, you know, socially PC or whatever, like if that's the philosophy that America's taken, America's taken, we will continue to erode our democracy and then prove that point out. Well, that's what we're doing. I mean, that's what that's sort of what we're doing. I mean, and anyhow, so there's this war that's being cooked up. I mean, it's being run by essentially by
Starting point is 00:07:24 John Bolton, who is a war monger, or who war monger, was the, he is the weapons of mass destruction guy for everybody who needs a history lesson. I mean, he's literally the guy who's the arch, one of the architects of the Iraq War, which of course, as we know, was a total bullshit quagmire. Anyhow, the long and short of it is like,
Starting point is 00:07:42 I feel like there's something that's so insanely transparent about what's happening in this whole exchange. Something that's so wildly transparent in the progression of events, that if the government, if people in the government aren't, now I don't, of course, I don't expect the Republicans to do anything because they are useless and anti-American. But I do expect some people non-Republicans to act up and act up loudly about this. But it is to me as like, this is cookie-cutter shit.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I mean, Trump desperately needs a reason to stay in office and nothing he's done in terms of his policy, in terms of his approach to politics, in terms of the way that he's handled America for the last couple of years, has indicated that there's a great desire in this country to keep what Trump's doing going. And so this is, to me, feels like a very much like a last ditch. This is like a Hail Mary.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Like, can we get into a war? And I don't know. It's pretty fucking crazy that this is like, that I can see it clearly, and I think a lot of other people can, and yet it's happening anyway. You know, I can see it clearly and I think a lot of other people can and yet it's happening anyway. You know, I could see it during the Iraq war. I mean, everybody with a brain who understood, I mean, by the way, I was not one of these people with much of a brain, but you could understand that like that that it wasn't Iraq that was the enemy in the in the situation of 9-11. Like it was very clearly had nothing to do with it. Yeah, and I think it's not
Starting point is 00:09:04 even like such a like, you know, how does nobody else see this? clearly had nothing to do with it. Yeah, and I think it's not even such a, how does nobody else see this? I think that people do see it, and then the other things like being on the team that you already endorsed and racism and blind rage, they overwhelm you to the point that people understood. You know what I mean? I think people knew, but they just didn't care
Starting point is 00:09:27 They were just mad and they were mad around people and they they wanted right But this is I mean the difference here is we don't have that. I mean there is no there is no catalyst You know nobody gives a fuck about a drone being shot down and and no one's in no one is really in danger And this talk of like Iran getting like nukes. It's like an esoteric sort of like philosophical conversation to have. And it's great. Like do sanctions, like negotiate, do whatever the fuck you need to do. But like, I'm sorry, we can't handle North Korea the way we've handled North Korea,
Starting point is 00:09:59 which is like not at all. And they actually have nuclear weapons. And they are actually testing missiles and threatening to literally blow up things that we care about. Whereas Iran is just like, well, they might have this, they might do this, or we don't like the fact that you know it's like- I mean, if anything are behavior- Shooting down in Korea, it makes them even more enthusiastic to chase down the creation
Starting point is 00:10:22 of a nuclear weapon, because we're showing them that, you know, you'll... Like, we're not going to do anything. Yeah, that will actually become your friend if you continue to pursue this, and it doesn't matter. Well, it's like, it won't matter. But it's like, I mean, look, the whole North Korean thing is the product of one man's you know, Megalomania and his belief that, you know, people like him,
Starting point is 00:10:45 Jungler, are like, worth being buddies with for some reason. Like, I don't really understand it. I mean, I should, I don't understand. It's just he does not see anything that anyone has other than power. And he will attack people with it or he will befriend them, no matter which wayver direction he thinks will get him closer to their power. So I think, so Lauren, I were talking about this before I went to bed last night, and I think like, I think the way to best understand the view of essentially like the people in power in this country right now, and the Republicans largely is sort of like caveman thinking, which is like all that matters is like hoarding resources and power, and everybody else is like, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:26 everybody else was like outside the cave, you know, it was like, should be clubbed, right? And like, I do think that like, I do think that like at a base level, like there are only two motivating factors for the Republican Party, which is like money and power. And everything else, their opinion is like, if you don't have, if you will not like join us
Starting point is 00:11:43 in our pursuit of money and power, then like your rights as a human, like your humanity is insignificant and unrelated to like our cause. And like everything about their actions suggests this is the case. Like, I mean, we were talking about religion and it's like, well, a lot of the time I were religion, I don't believe for a fucking second that 90% of these Republicans that talk about religion give a shit about God or Jesus or the Bible. I think that it's a tool to manipulate people
Starting point is 00:12:10 and a tool to justify actions that otherwise are unjustifiable. And so like, if you look at what's going on in these detention, I mean, I'm willing to come to detention centers. We should actually refer to them as concentration camps because that's what they are. If you look at what's going on, I mean, the government, our government, our White white house literally argued in court
Starting point is 00:12:26 that it did not have a responsibility to provide soap or toothbrushes or beds to the people that it was detaining. I mean, there cannot be a better articulation of inhumanity or inhumane treatment than that, which is like children, actual fucking children, are sleeping on stone floors with no way to wash themselves, and we think that's an acceptable treatment of other people.
Starting point is 00:12:49 They, they were hobbligans think that's an acceptable treatment of other people, and they think that way because they don't, they think that because they don't really care. They don't even think of them as people. They think of them as like the subjugated, like the things to be subjugated, and in their pursuit of power and money, whatever gets in the way and
Starting point is 00:13:05 whatever doesn't agree is just like outside, outside the cave, essentially, right? And so I think that like, we have to stop thinking that like, the things that they, that these people are reasonable. And we need to start thinking that they're an enemy. The thing is, I feel like what we're talking around is that each of these philosophies, which is like the pursuit of money and power, the pursuit of violence, like as an impulse, and it's an impulse that you be happy to have and that like you encourage. It all comes from like a philosophy of fear and a whole thing about like, they are so frightened of people who are different than them. They're frightened that everything will decline
Starting point is 00:13:53 or that the bad times will come and they're not gonna have all the money and the power that they need to like fix it. They're religious because they're fearful, what if it's true, also like what will other people think of me? See, I think that I think you're giving them a lot of credit that they don't deserve at this point.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I mean, I think that thing, I think it all has a philosophy of fear for the base and even for the sociopaths at the top. But because the thing is Republicans are the, when they say that they're being discriminated against or oppressed in some way, it comes from a place of like, they're scared that they're going to lose this quote-unquote privilege that other people don't have or that other people will get it and it won't make
Starting point is 00:14:32 them special anymore. And that is the way that their reactions operate. Whereas when we say that someone's being oppressed or discriminated against, usually comes from a place of trying to advocate for them because we hope that it will get better for them. You know what I mean? I think, yeah, but I think that, yeah, but I think there's something really disingenuous about the idea that they are scared. I think that there is no. I don't think that there's a fear. I think that you could maybe, you could go and find, and I think you would find with a lot of the people who vote for the Reddit. That's what I mean. Like, mention the condoms.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I mean, for the passage of the... For the feel fear. I think there are a lot of people, I think there are a lot of people who would say who are ignorant and fearful and therefore they vote along like the ignorant fearful lines, but like I'm talking about the people in power and I think that like there's one thing to say like to try to speak to the people who aren't in power, but the people in power, I don't think we should have any illusions about their motivation. I don't think that there is, I don't think that the people who want to put immigrants in cages and have them sleep on floors are like, well, we're scared that if we let them in, that they will somehow mess up our country. I think that what they're
Starting point is 00:15:42 actually the truth is, the truth of the matter is, that there are fearful people at the bottom and that there are sociopaths within the party, usually at the top, that are manipulating that group because they understand that they're the most easily manipulated group of people in the world. I mean, you're saying like fearful people like in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the,
Starting point is 00:16:02 you're saying, you're saying, you're saying you're saying the voters, you're saying the voters, the people with no support. Or even some of the people the Bay, you're saying you're saying you're saying the voters, you're saying the voters, the people with no. Yes, or even some of the people like I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I of fear. I mean, the cabinet, I'm talking about like, well, who do I have to talk about? Security person, if you're upper level in the military, a lot of those people operate from a place where they're easily exploitable because they're, they're basically terrified of people that they don't understand
Starting point is 00:16:35 because they don't know. No, I think that's fair. I think that's fair, but I think like, listen, I mean, if you, if you, there's a group of people that is going to I mean, exploited it from people at the top is what I mean, yeah, that's definitely true. That's definitely true. But like, if you're if you work at a, if you work at a border security facility, whatever the fuck they're calling these, and you look
Starting point is 00:16:54 in in these, at these children being tortured, and you don't, you don't feel what is a natural sensation, which is something here, which is something here is wrong. You're either brainwasher. You're broken and there's really no, there's really no other way to be like all those women who are letting themselves be branded and nexium or like all the Scientology people that like that full, I think that you're so brainwashed and you've been so manipulated by a bunch of like charismatic sociopaths who are only concerned with getting power. And I think the reason that the democratic institution doesn't attract those sociopaths quite as easily, not that we don't have our share, believe me.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But the reason that we don't attract quite so many and they don't become so popular is that we're not operating from a place of like, we'll take any like strong men in a storm. Right. I mean, listen, we like want builders to create things that are like better for the future. I just, I feel like the whole world right now is just it's all part of a continuum. And I want to be able to put my finger on what the fundamental like thing is at the core of this because when I watch, right, like, like, what is the, what is the, I don't understand where
Starting point is 00:18:03 it's even coming from half of the time. Well, well, that, I is the, what is the, what is the, you know, what is, what is, what is, what is it to be human? I mean, what is humanity? Like, what are we doing here? Right? Like, I think there's a philosophical, I think there are people who would argue there's the, there's a philosophy of, of power, which is just essentially, um, it's, it essentially, it's survival of the fittest. It's that the smartest and the strongest, some combination of those things will come out
Starting point is 00:18:32 on top. And that's the arrangement of the world or of society that we should be focused on. And that arrangement is, frankly, the thinking of Neanderthals. I mean, that arrangement is the thinking of whatever it is that is the worst of the human. Yeah, I would argue, and I feel like a lot of Democrats would argue that what a human is, is something that has finally begun to rise above that philosophy
Starting point is 00:19:00 and will understand the value that everybody has. And intrinsically, that's the stuff that gives you your humanity. Like, this is the divide between, I think it's the fundamental. This is like why I get so, I get so like frazzled at the arguments about, like, no, I'm by the way, I don't think, again, I'm gonna say, I think there are some great Democratic candidates running for president and there are some less great ones. But I think fundamentally, they have a different perspective on society,
Starting point is 00:19:26 even though they fuck things up in various ways. Like, you know, Kamala Harris, you can say she's fucked certain things up and you can say Biden has fucked a bunch of things up and you can say Bernie does things that are bad and war and those things that are bad or whatever, but fundamentally, I believe there is like a pursuit to like, discover like the best of humanity in like,
Starting point is 00:19:44 pretty much everybody. Whereas like with the Republicans, I think there is a pursuit to like divide up people in groups of we think these are the best over here with their potential realized and over here are the not the best that we need to like shun and push out. And like that's, you know, that's like, it's like a wonderful like root of all of the greatest
Starting point is 00:20:04 like hates in the world. I think Nazism is based on this sort of fundamental idea that there are people who are intrinsically flawed that must be shunned from society. This is like, you go like, people in the Middle East are intrinsically, you've heard, but this has to be people like Ben Shapiro say that. And this is also the whole argument first. The Arabs, Which is like, of course, it's like there because everyone in there deserves to be there.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Right. Right. And it's like, and it's like, it's like, there's just an intrinsically, uh, there's like a fundamental flaw in like a group that cannot be changed or cannot be, uh, cannot be considered in any other way. I'm afraid about changing. It's like, it just is there and it will always be there and therefore, like, there's just a decline. Which is just not easy. I think we're just eugenic. No, it about changing, it's like, it just is there, and it will always be there and therefore like there's just a decline. Which is just not see, I think we're just eugenic. No, it is, but again, I'm saying like this goes to some lizard brain shit.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Like this is not intelligent. You can describe it in intelligent ways. You can like put Jordan Peterson's on the stage to like give you words that make it sound scientific and like you can get like political pundits, like Ben Shapiro to say words that sound it sound scientific. And like you can get like political pundits like Ben Shapiro to say words that sound somehow scientific. But the reality is like it is like lizard brain thinking, which is like I'm strong and tough and need to be on top
Starting point is 00:21:14 and these people are weak and flawed and need to be on the bottom or need to be destroyed. And like the reality is like that is the world that we're operating in right now. I don't think there is a lot of, I think if you get right down to that underlying that thing that you're talking about, that underlying motivation of why it is this way right now, yes, fear is a part of it.
Starting point is 00:21:33 It grins as a part of it. I think the way people have been raised, they're upbringing and they're understanding of society, of course, a part of it. I think it can be change. I think people can come from one way to the other, but I don't think that it's that complicated. I think it's just like, and I'm not saying it's even good or evil. Like, I'm not saying that there's like,
Starting point is 00:21:52 even I'm not even making a judgment call on this. I think it's just literally that like, the thinking of this group of people is fundamentally like the thinking of like a caveman mentality, of like a lizard brain mentality, which is like, I must be on top and control, and other people who are not that must be destroyed. And I think like, that is as much as we need to know
Starting point is 00:22:16 about people like Donald Trump, and the people he surrounds himself with. You know, and they can paint their motivations in all sorts of different colors. But I do think it's like power and money, of course, is deeply connected to power in the world. And that's not an accident. And so it's power and money. It's control of those things at all costs, which is why they will back anybody and say anything, which is why the evangelical Christians that will tell you about the sins of the flesh and embrace Trump, art must be seen as like the insane hypocrites
Starting point is 00:22:47 and liars that they are because what they really want is control and power and probably money, which is a part of having control and power. And like anyhow, the long and short of it is like it's very fucking hard to wake up every day. It's very hard to go to bed every night in the world that we live in. It's hard to talk about things like gadgets and games, which we love to talk about when like I'm literally reading articles about how they're a fucking children,
Starting point is 00:23:07 the age of my daughter being fucking abused in detention centers in America, which are essentially concentration camps. And I know that the people in power don't have designs to help them or make them better or get them into a place that will be good for them or protect them in any way. And the reasons are very simple. And like the only thing we can do to stop it is to get them into a place that will be good for them or protect them in any way. And the reasons are very simple.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And like the only thing we can do to stop it is to get them out of power. And every day it seems like we were increasingly like further away from that. So anyhow, this is an upbeat episode of tomorrow. I think the thing is we try really hard. And I certainly am extremely conscious of, I don't want anyone to tune in and hear just two people panic every week about the end of the world, but at the same time, and so an active pursuit of lighter stories and stuff to talk about, but at the same time, like, if a few
Starting point is 00:23:55 things happen in a week and one of them is like cataclysmically bad on like a global scale, and the other stuff is like later, it's just like, it's like hard to authentically talk about. I mean, it's, it's really tough. Like if you look at, if you look at what's going on in the world, it's just really tough to like. Think about anything else. I mean, John, this is insane for me to say, but I was watching like TV with John the other day, and I paused it. It was something apocalyptic. I went and been handling this tale. And I was saying like, you know, if everything gets really bad, I'm kind of gonna be on the front lines of being screwed
Starting point is 00:24:30 just from the fact that I need a medication that, you know, I'm gonna need to have. So like when things start getting bad, just stuff like that, I'm like, we're gonna be screwed first. He's like, do you think about that constantly? And I was like, yeah, you don't think about like buying handcranks or like where you would go if there was a terror attack somewhere in the city.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Like, you don't think about that all the time. And he was like, I mean, he was like, crosses my mind, but not every day. And I was like, I can't think about anything else at the moment because like, it just feels practical at this point. Like, I could feel like I was diluting myself if I wasn't understanding that there are several scenarios very close to happening where things get really bad. I'm trying not to take it for granted, I guess, but I don't know if I'm creating a complex that's irritating to be around. Do you know what I mean? Does it matter?
Starting point is 00:25:24 I don't think it's fair. I mean, at this point, like, I'm sorry, but I don't think it's fair to be reasonable for other people's comfort. Yeah, and it doesn't even feel like, you know what I mean? I understand for John. I mean, I understand for John,
Starting point is 00:25:36 but I'm just saying like, it's like, one of the reasons I started the outline, one of the reasons, I kind of of backed away from tech for a while. I mean, one was like, I felt like it was really boring. And to some extent, I still feel like the coverage is very boring of technology, which is why we're working on something new. That's not boring.
Starting point is 00:25:57 But like, and not boring. But also one of the reasons was like, we were coming to a point in the world I felt like where it was hard, for me at least it was hard to ignore, like to act like, to like write a thing about tablets or whatever on a day when... And this happened even as we were covering things. I mean, there was a point of which technology was the biggest thing happening in the news. Like, it was the biggest society change that we had ever seen. And over the course of that period, where the change was so rapid, technology was the biggest thing happening in the news. Like it was the biggest society change
Starting point is 00:26:25 that we had ever seen. And over the course of that period, where the change was so rapid and so structural that that was a fascinating thing to cover. And it's not that it isn't anymore. It's just that it's in a different way. There was also a long period where, you know, post financial crisis, post George W. Bush, like the early Obama years
Starting point is 00:26:49 into like the kind of middle and towards, you know, obviously even towards the end of his presidency, that things had gotten like, things had started to like stabilize it a bunch of ways that they were, that had felt like during George W. Bush's reign of terror that they could not. You know, the iPhone was introduced at the end of George W. Bush's time in office, which was one of the most catastrophic eight years of American history. And it was it introduced at the beginning of the election of Barack Obama, which was an unbelievable, like unfathomable moment in American politics and for the world, which is like we elected a black man as president in a country that literally had enslaved black people not that long ago. And that was like, the president had been white
Starting point is 00:27:40 in male for the entire history of the country. And so, and we had just, like, there was all sorts of things that were happening. We were coming out of a financial crisis. We had regulated, we started to regulate banks in a way that they had never been regulated. We had, we started to push and pass laws, like getting there, right? It was all hope and change stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:58 It was like, the arc of the history bends towards justice thing where, like, we felt like the world was going to keep getting better We were gonna keep improving. We were gonna solve climate change Like I really had faith in our bet of we will out innovate and out perform and we will like all grow as people Not that like utopia where there wouldn't be Stumbling blocks, but I really truly had faith that scientists would you know Science would be pushed to the forefront to save the human race because it's the most important battle of our generation and be stumbling blocks, but I really truly had faith that scientists would, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:25 science would be pushed to the forefront to save the human race because it's the most important battle of our generation. And now, like, even just with climate change stuff, it's like, I don't think that's happening. And like, I have lost, it has broken me in a way that like, I mean, say what you will about Obama, he, there was an aspect of his leadership
Starting point is 00:28:46 that was based on intellect and intellectual thinking and intellectual evaluation of things that were like facing the world. And I mean, he was in a very difficult position. I think he had a party of the Republicans that they had one goal during his presidency, which was to stop his, uh, any initiative that he had from, from making its way into law. And they worked very hard at that. I mean, they worked very hard at that to the point of blocking a Supreme Court nomination,
Starting point is 00:29:19 you know, 18 months prior to, um, an election, you know, or however many months it was a months, it was over a year, I believe, as if that was some basis for blocking. And I mean, it really corrupts stuff. I mean, truly corrupt shit happened to upend the agenda of the president. And so, I think that there was an, there was, there was, there was an intellectual sort of aspect to his leadership that has been, had been lacking, deeply lacking in George W. Bush and is obviously deeply lacking in Trump. But the point is, like, there was a feeling that we were moving in an interaction of like, there was a progressive movement.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Now, it wasn't like perfect, but it was a, it was certainly like leaning in the right direction in many ways. So anyhow, like, so, so when you think about it, the beginning of his presidency coincides with the beginning of the kind of modern way of technology, and there's an optimism about all of it. By the way, this was like an age where Facebook and Twitter were brand new to many people, and there was an optimism about it. This was like, there was an excitement about these things. We weren't like Amazon is bad, and Google is bad, and things. We weren't like, Amazon is bad and Google is bad and Facebook needs to be stopped and what is Apple doing? And it's like, it was like actually we're all like, wow, this could lead to something amazing. And I think it's interesting
Starting point is 00:30:35 how much the decline of all of this has dovetailed with, you know, what's happened in politics. And I don't think it's an accident that we look at the people who are in power in many ways and say, wait a second, are they abusing that power that they have, and have we changed our sort of perspective on what the potential of those people are based on, either who the people are or the ways that they use the power that they have. And I think like so anyhow, so it is fitting, I believe that, I don't know, in many
Starting point is 00:31:10 ways, like you go back to when Trump was elected, you go back to that era, you go back to the years leading up, the couple of years leading up of the really ugly campaigning and bad politics of this country and bad faith politics. You know, part of the reason I was like, I don't feel like I can sit and talk about like, phones every day was a product of that. And like, I still feel that to some extent. And I do think we have to have a new perspective on a lot of this stuff, but like I will say that
Starting point is 00:31:39 it's tough to like do a podcast where it's ostensibly we're supposed to talk about like interesting pop culture shit. And you know, with a side of politics sometimes, and like on a day like today or a week like this week, it's very difficult to ignore the realities, which is like we are in crisis in this country. And like the only people who don't think we're in crisis
Starting point is 00:31:59 are people who either are too ignorant and not paying attention or truly don't care and support the crisis that we're heading towards. And that's the only other, I think it's the only way you can slice it. So, you know, like, yeah, not to be a bomber, but like, shit's pretty fucked up. You know what Ryan, you need to calm down.
Starting point is 00:32:19 So, do you think that this Taylor Swift video is a metaphor for peace in the Middle East? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha for peace in the Middle East? Ha ha ha ha. I mean, I think this is a good example of some fucking horse shit, some marketing ass horse shit. I mean, look, clearly we're very upset. But then, you know, also, maybe we need to calm down. Maybe we need to calm down.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Maybe we need to just take a minute and watch, you know, three minutes of Taylor Swift pretending to be an ally. And, you know, this Taylor Swift thing, I'm operating from a place of like, yes, there are definitely critiques and notes that I would give her on if she wants to be a supportive member of the company.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I thought she directed her own video. That's my favorite part of it. She's like, I'm a director too. She's like, actually, I need to take, oh, as much credit as possible for this new Taylor Swift that we're experiencing. I love that when celebrities, because they're been praised endlessly in a couple ways,
Starting point is 00:33:16 pivot, and they have the same level of confidence, like Taylor Swift is a director. Ashton Kutcher is an angel investor. I mean, I mean, he actually is, like, I mean, I think he actually now just does that pretty much full time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:29 But whether or not it ends up landing, the big, strong pivot, the like, I'm a real house life now, I'm a pop star. Like that pivot is a tough one to land. And some, they're going to be more successful than others, but the idea that Taylor Swift is like, not only am I now an expert on gay rights, I'm also a director. And it's like, is this her, is this her,
Starting point is 00:33:54 she's coming out, right? Is this what's happening? Is this all a precursor? If this doesn't end in a coming out, it will be way more egregious than... Isn't this like the, I feel like this is like the undercurrent, like one of the undercurrent rumors of Taylor Swift
Starting point is 00:34:07 is that she's actually like, at least not, maybe not gay, but not totally straight and has been kind of like. My place is wearing Carly Crosse. Yeah, wow, okay, that's a vivid, wow, vivid imagery that is not made for work. But like, I do, I'm sorry, like where the fuck was this Taylor Swift when there was a serious election going on in this country that was like very much about, very much about like the
Starting point is 00:34:33 subjugation of like gay people and trans people and people of color in like Taylor Swift was like, I don't get involved in politics. But I can't get down on her learning from that experience and now wanting to be active. What I can get down on is the blatant, like mid 2000s gay best friend vibe of it all, the like showing up in gay spaces and not bringing other gay,
Starting point is 00:35:00 or any queer artists, like to show up at Stonewall and perform, I get what you were trying to do, but what would have been better as if you did your Taylor Swift, please welcome to the stage thing and then have on some like collaborators that are part of the queer community
Starting point is 00:35:18 to lend your power in that way. Also, all of this whole discussion, it's like, I can't believe that we're having it when like the world, the climate is like, we can be mad about multiple things at once, but also another part of me is like, oh, I'm sorry, she doesn't helping in the right way, but at least she's trying to help. But then the whole other flip side of this is like, Taylor Swift is a marketing machine and she is a corporation. And at the end of the day, Walmart showing up at Pride
Starting point is 00:35:45 does not make Walmart a queer ally. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's this whole thing is just weird. It's all just, it's all of putting. I mean, there was that amazing piece that was on the outline this week that was about Raytheon, Raytheon mentioned queer pride or whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Yeah, by George Severus. And it was great because it was really. Raytheon said gay rights, all right, yeah. Yeah, by George Severus. And it was great because it was really- Rayfion said gay rights, sorry, yeah. Yeah, it was, it was, it really pointed out that the more corporations twist and bend themselves to obscure the fact that they're corporations, the more harm it does to us, even though we ask them to do it because we're like, why don't you put trans women of color in your ads? So they do next to like two white dude pop stars
Starting point is 00:36:26 or movie stars and then they take your dollars during Pride Month and that's the end of that transaction. What did you get from it? I mean, yeah, it's like on the one hand, it's hard to, I mean, this maybe this is the thing about Taylor Swift and her video or whatever is like, it's hard to knock what is essentially like the right attitude, like somebody being like, okay, well, I'm going to embrace this because it's...
Starting point is 00:36:48 I mean, she got a bunch of money for glad and signatures for, you know, her legislation. But at the flip side of that is it's like, but if you really are an ally, it won't hurt you to take of some critiques. And I don't think her fans, it's the same thing between pop star fans and political fans because on the internet, everybody's famous, but also that means that when you decide you're obsessed with somebody, you stand them super hard. And like people have become like these like factions of warring whatever. And it's like, I can give Taylor some notes and still like quote unquote support her. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah, I guess so. I mean, it's the same thing with the political candidates. Yesterday I met with a friend who said, now I know you hate Bernie, but was gonna tell me something good about him. And I said, I don't hate Bernie. I don't hate any, I think, of the Democratic, like this could serious contenders. Obviously, I hate Howard Schultz. I don't like flat out hate Joe Biden. I just have some notes for everybody, and I have the most notes for Joe Biden, and I have a fair number of notes for Bernie.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I have some notes for Elizabeth. I can critique these people in a place of good faith, and in fact, it's like our duty as voters to do that, to like critique everybody. This is what I said about Hillary and Bernie during that run, and both sides freaked out on me for like, either of them. I mean, how do you, but there's nuances,
Starting point is 00:38:08 like, nuance is lost. I mean, you can't, you can't be like, look, I mean, I've put it in this innumerable, there've been innumerable conversations on this podcast about this, but it's like, I am for a non-Trump person winning the presidency. I have very, actually, like at this point, don't have a lot of preference,
Starting point is 00:38:25 except that there is going to be a non-Trump person who can win, that doesn't stand for the kinds of things that Trump stands for. And I think largely, like I would say, every Democratic candidate is in that bucket. Give or take, you know? There are some I like a lot better than others. But yeah, all of them, we should have be able to say it
Starting point is 00:38:43 to all of them, like, there are some things you could work on. And what Taylor's just doing with this song is a political act. So it is okay for us to critique the politics of it because it's like life or death for us. And for her, it's a single, she really is. But the career question is, how's the song? What's your opinion on the song? It sounds like a pastiche of all the everything else she's ever done. Plus a little like your baby or a firework. Yeah. You're in there for good measure. I think you have Katy Perry's in the video in there.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yeah, they finally have buried the hatchet. The point of her gay rights song and gay rights anthem and all of her activism was for her to be seen hugging Katy Perry. I think we can all agree. But maybe it's just good for like the people, for people who are uncomfortable with gay people. And they love Taylor Swift,
Starting point is 00:39:31 and they're like, they need a bridge. I mean, maybe, because Taylor's had haters, maybe I'm a hater of gay people. Because there's been a lot of critique, but we're talking this much about it. There's been a lot of critique of the whole concept of you need to calm down. like this dismissive kind of like,
Starting point is 00:39:46 oh, well, we're actually talking about like people being murdered, like this isn't like, this is like that kind of language is so tepid and irresponsible. It's also an attempt to look reasonable while tone policing somebody. Yeah, I mean, the you need to calm down is aimed at the haters, not at the people experiencing the hate, but it's still like, right?
Starting point is 00:40:06 I mean, it's like not aimed at the people who are upset. Yeah, I think it's basically just aimed at, because that's the vagary of the message in the song. It's like, you are obsessed with me because I'm like a famous woman, but like, you need to calm down. Is the same thing as like being bullied for your sexuality or gender identity?
Starting point is 00:40:24 Like, that's the weird thing. It's tellers like, I get what you guys, what you girls have been through. Do you know what I mean? That's like vibe of it all. Yeah, I just think, it's like what is the, maybe this is the on ramp,
Starting point is 00:40:36 but maybe this is like I should be excited about this because it's the on ramp for people who truly have bad opinions right now to be like, wait, maybe my opinions are actually bad and I can interrogate and investigate that a little bit now because I've been like, been let under the, you know, inside the tent here through this like very tepid, half-assed, like Taylor Swift thing,
Starting point is 00:40:55 I mean, not that they would think that, but like, maybe it's like, it's like, oh, wait, now I can like evaluate some of my opinions and maybe they're really not that good because it's like a relatively safe space for people who have bad opinions to feel like. I do think about that a lot. Is there, we need to create spaces for people
Starting point is 00:41:11 with bad opinions to pivot? Do you know what I mean? Like to pivot, to pivot, not feel like they're in bear. Like not under attack. Like to, to, to, to, cause I do think there is a, I do think there are people who would like, given the opportunity and the argument
Starting point is 00:41:24 without feeling attacked might be like, let me think about what I was saying is a, I do think there are people who would like, given the opportunity and the argument without feeling attacked might be like, let me think about what I was saying or thinking. And is it actually good or right? And in the right circumstances, I think there are these circumstances. They might be like, you know what? I'm wrong, this is stupid. I need to rethink it.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I need to reevaluate. I need to learn some stuff. And like they actually will and become better people for it. I think that's completely possible. Who of us has not evolved in their beliefs in life? Like I can't imagine that anybody would argue that they have not had a belief that has changed or evolved over time.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I mean, I used to just hate the Swedes. Yeah. Right, and now that you find them like remotely tolerable, you know what you're thinking? Yeah, I met Magnus and I said, this has been a subhuman. We all agree that he's like, if he's, you know, you're thinking? Yeah, I met Magnus and I said, this isn't a sub-hugel. We all agree that he's like, if he's, you know, an example of a Swedish person,
Starting point is 00:42:08 I think we can learn to live with them. But yeah, I think like the thing is, so maybe this is the on ramp. I don't really know. I don't know. Let's talk about Kendall Jenner. Do you want to hit by him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:20 It's the first slide. I think we're out of this. We gotta talk about Kendall Jenner. I know. So this is like a thing that Ryan just Kendall Jenner. I know. So this is like a thing that Ryan just introduced to me. I didn't see this at all, but like Kendall Jenner was seen. I don't even understand the circumstances of this. Like she just like happened to be like.
Starting point is 00:42:37 So she took a picture of herself on a security camera, buying a can of vanilla, orange vanilla coke, which I just saw for the first time by the way in public, that the soda, not candle generous security picture or whatever. And then it like turns out that like her outfit in the picture perfectly matches the can of the code. And she's holding it label out, which if you know anything about a can of soda, yeah, it's like, yeah, that's not pointing at her. You need to like, you need to do it. Like, yeah, I mean, it's not something that just happens. Um, the, the, the, the interesting thing is she was a Pepsi spokesperson,
Starting point is 00:43:11 uh, like officially, as far as we know, right? And did this horrible disaster of a commercial with Pepsi as well, all we all recall, I think about a year ago, uh, and it's like, it's like she solves like, um, she solves like, immigration, immigration, And it's like, she solves like immigration. She solves like immigration riots. But like, there's not even the politics, if you look in the video, the politics are like people holding up clapboards with like a peace sign on it.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Like it's like this to the air. It's like I would say the politics in the video and it's great to go back and revisit it if you haven't. It's like, it's like young woke people, young woke people with diverse woke people who have a vague thing they're mad about versus authoritarian cops and the like, maybe guys who wear ties. There might be people comfortable on a riot. Yeah, there might be a moment in the video, I don't recall there's an extended version
Starting point is 00:44:08 where maybe like some guys who are wearing like wearing ties, like take their ties off and join the protest. I'm not really sure. It's like stuff like that though. It's that kind of vague, like it's a movie. I was in the liberal coffee shop just reading this book and then I was taken by the spirit of revolution. Yeah, revolution.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Right. But the revolution. The piece. Right, it's like, it's like, we're for peace and understanding and we're woke and diverse and then there's like the cops. And then Kendall Jenner's like, Hey, everybody have a Pepsi and it'll,
Starting point is 00:44:38 everything will be okay. And then everybody has a Pepsi and it's like, Wow, what were we fighting about black lives do matter? And then the other people, the woke people are like actually blue lives matter too. And they're like, nice. And it's like, wow, we did it, everybody. Um, and that's like the Pepsi video. So anyhow, in the end, I think they all form a human centipede.
Starting point is 00:44:55 It didn't, that's right. That's right. They do it. And they straight it all the way through. That's right. It's beautiful. Disgusted. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:45:02 Anyhow, so now she's like drinking a Coke and has a address to match and it's like, wow, she's like come over to the other side. And but it also is doing like a stealth Instagram ad, which is like honestly a pretty good, I don't know, it's a pretty good use of like both Instagram and security cameras. And I'm gonna follow Kendall Jenner now. I'm just gonna like, I wanna keep up with this.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I wanna see if it unfolds. What's funny is that she did the most, like, balls out add with the Pepsi Ed. And now she's doing this, like, what I think was supposed to be, like, ultra-subtle, like, you know, association placement or whatever, and now, because everyone noticed how, like, staged it all is,
Starting point is 00:45:43 it's now its own little, like, viral. I mean, it's very unusual. I mean, it's now its own little viral. I mean, it's very unusual. I mean, it's very funny. Anyhow, I didn't get it. Listen, nobody wants to buy soda from Kendall Jenner. I think that's the good good thing. I don't know. I mean, it's definitely raising awareness
Starting point is 00:45:57 of Orange Vanilla Coke, which is a very ideal. Orange Vanilla Coke is that? Which is exactly like, chup for gum tomorrow. which is like brought to you by yeah, this segment wasn't ad. I think I think but that's exactly it isn't it man. Isn't it? That's it. Yeah. This is the point is that here we are the awareness has been raised. The right vanilla code right now right now all eight listeners of the tomorrow podcast are like are craving are googling and craving
Starting point is 00:46:29 delicious orange vanilla coke. And you know, it does also come in a zero variety with Neil calories. Does it? Oh, hello. I'm here for that. Here for it. At any rate.
Starting point is 00:46:47 All right, what else is going on? What else is, is there anything upbeat that we can talk about? Is there anything cool happening? Hmm, stranger things, trailer drops. Oh, yes, this is all I live for now. The, oh my God, oh my God. Did you hear that? I heard like a shuttle. A bird just flew into the window that I'm sitting
Starting point is 00:47:03 one foot from like smashed into it It's hair is all messed up. I see it right now It's a it's alive. How Hitchcock is this is fucking that was fucking terrifying Didn't it see my big stupid head sitting here? Why would it even try to fly towards me was the bird trying to get me? The bird seems to be okay. I'm very rattled Very, I think that bird had it out for you Oh my god, is the bird Republican?
Starting point is 00:47:34 It's the bird a Trump operative. What's going on? It's a swifty. That's fucking terrifying. Um, anyhow, sorry. Let's get I'm just gonna try to refocus I'm gonna I'm gonna come back got it, you know, whatever they do when it's like you gotta get your, do your scene. Very appropriate to a bird flying right at you into a window, Stranger Things 3 trailer drive. Oh yes, yes. I was saying as the bird flew into the, which is very Stranger Things-y, by the way.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Yeah, I can make sure you think about that. I'm living the, It's as if truth is stranger than fiction. The peace of pop culture I'm now, that is not giving me like reason to go on is like, I just saw the new Stranger Things trailer and it's really good.
Starting point is 00:48:08 And it, and frankly, like I will say this about Stranger Things. Like I don't think they've done a very good job of explaining like the mythology or the science or the meaning of like the enemy in Stranger Things. Like I don't really know. Like in this Stranger things, apparently the bad guy has a voice and is like talking about stuff,
Starting point is 00:48:30 but I don't have any recollection of the bad guy having a voice and talking about stuff to anybody in the other Stranger Things series. So I'm like a little bit lost as to like who, like I understand there's like a monster, but I feel like they're now making it seem like there's like a actual villain that has like, I thought like the whole stranger.
Starting point is 00:48:51 The Darth Vader of Streamer. Yeah, well I thought the monster was based in some ways, like we could, whatever it's called the Demogorgon or whatever they call it, that like that was like the, the Darth Vader. So there's an Emperor Palpatine in the dark, in the Stranger Things universe that's like controlling. And then it's more like Palpatine in the stranger things universe that's like controlling. And there's also like an existential
Starting point is 00:49:08 horror thing because it's like all there's this other dimension where everything is bad that could leak in at any time kind of thing. Yeah, which is like fine, but is there a like there's one thing about like and by the way if you've ever seen the great film The Miss, which I highly
Starting point is 00:49:21 recommend, the plots are very similar which is that, like essentially a portal is open to another reality that is full of scary motherfuckers that are like- It's never a better reality. It's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
Starting point is 00:49:36 it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like,
Starting point is 00:49:43 it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, it's never like, like animalistic hell world, where like the animals all want to kill everything and also they're like disgusting monsters. And like, so, but anyhow, it seems like it's very similar, but now it seems like maybe there is like some mind that is like want something, which is correct me if I'm wrong, has never been explored in any of the Stranger Things series that have previously existed. So I don't know what's going on, but I'm excited to see it, and I will definitely watch it aggressively,
Starting point is 00:50:08 as aggressively as possible. And I'm excited. You know, I don't know what else there is to say, really, except that I think we're due for some escapism, and there's not a lot of options at this point. You know, we're like, oh, let's watch the handmaid's tail, and it's like, wait a second.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Hey, this is art. It's more like arm-aid's tail, you know what I mean?id's tail and it's like wait a second. Hey, this is art. It's more like our maids tail. You know what I mean? That's a big sense. Hey, I don't want to learn future history. Yeah. No, I just thought it was a great onion headline actually. It was like John Bolton warns that I wore with a ran only way to avenge the deaths
Starting point is 00:50:39 of soldiers killed in the future wore with a ran. It's like a really good. Good. Anyhow. All right. What else is going on anything else? The Xbox is apparently they they act the lower end model of the new one So we're just they're just gonna balls out sell the expensive big one Hmm, and they're pushing back on the X-Cloud developments So apparently that won't be coming as quickly as everyone had hoped Who's gonna take on the switch? That's what I want to know while we're getting a gadget talk finally
Starting point is 00:51:08 This is what the people paid their good money for who's gonna who's gonna is anybody gonna take a run at the switch My favorite murder when people go for 45 minutes and you're like you haven't talked about a murder yet. Yeah Yeah, exactly Taking on the switch I don't I don't think anyone's doing it. No one's gonna take a run at the switch. No one's gonna do their Neo Geo Pocket. Nobody's doing their one underwater. Vita too, Vita too. I'm not hearing it.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I haven't heard anything about anything handheld. The only things in the portable side have been like Google Stadia and like best of luck using that on the subway. Yeah, I don't really know. And also there's like a rumor of like a smaller switch, like Switch Jr. or something. And Switch, like big brother.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Like it's fine. Pro. I'm ready for it. They're putting the Witcher on Switch, Witcher 3, which is like, I mean, we talked about this, I think last episode, but it's like, it looks like a fairly good port. It's fine, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:52:00 But like, if there's like a Switch with more power, that would be cool too. Like every really into that. Like that would be a fucking great thing. And yeah, I don't know what to say. Like I mean, the Xbox thing does nothing for me. I have internal Xbox on in like six months and like I, that's sad for the actual.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I never use it. I never use it. My brother who has like a dad been a diehard Xbox person has an Xbox one and like I offered at Christmas to buy him another console and he was like, no, I'm fine with this. And I was like, okay. And he asked me the other day, do you ever play on your Xbox?
Starting point is 00:52:28 I never see you on it. And I was like, no, and he was like, why not? I was like, because I'd rather play everything on the Switch. And if I can't, the only exclusives I care about aren't PS4. Yeah. So, I don't know. It's crazy. That's kind of the state of that.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Yeah, look, it's a dark week. Matt Buchanan, who's an editor at Eater, was at my house yesterday. He had an iPad and I was watching him work on it and it made me outraged. So that hasn't, that's unchanged. No. That's unchanged. But on the other hand, my mother, this, my mother's in town, this morning, she showed me
Starting point is 00:52:59 how she reads the newspaper and it's the most amazing thing. She gets the Pittsburgh Post Gazette because they live in Pittsburgh. And they send her a link to a PDF, which is a PDF of the newspaper and it's the most amazing thing. She gets the Pittsburgh Post Gazette because they live in Pittsburgh and they send her a link to a PDF, which is a PDF of the newspaper, and she reads the PDF on her iPad that's how she reads the newspaper. Oh my god. It's like a PDF of the newspaper. Like it's like, it's like, it's like, there's like an article on the front page. It's like, continue doing like, for a or whatever, like, there's no link or anything. It doesn't expand. It just, you have to like scroll down to the next, like to that section of the paper to read it, just like the paper.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And I gotta tell you it wasn't that bad. I kind of enjoyed it. It was very not online. It's like, it's a real, it's an crazy anachronism. It's like, you know, it's like somebody would have been out of pocket watch. It's like, yeah. Or it would be like would be not a pocket watch. It's like, yeah. Or it would be like, if I digitized a bunch of VHS tapes
Starting point is 00:53:48 and then burned them to DVDs and then through the VHS tapes out and put the DVDs in their ways. I mean, that even makes a little bit more sense. Like, this is like. Why wouldn't I just put it in the cloud or like, on my computer? It's just like, I mean, I will say in one way, it's kind of like it makes sense
Starting point is 00:54:05 because the websites are just, in some ways, newspapers, just like, many of them are just like a version of newspapers. This is like a less digital newspaper, but still like in a relatively digital form. Anyhow, it's, I mean, to print out essentially, it's like she printed out the newspaper and it's reading it, but it's not printed out,
Starting point is 00:54:24 it's on an iPad. So that was, that was an exciting discovery for me this morning. That's astonishing. It was somewhat astonishing and shocking and you know, I'm, I'm into it. I mean, that might be how I start reading the news. It like, it definitely is like, changes the whole like process of reading a story for better or worse. I'm not really sure. Well, the benefit of the newspapers, you had to scroll past things. You might not otherwise even. That's right. Glantz. Well, it has the ads to the newspaper. Somebody was like, I tweeted about it. They're like, well, at least it doesn't have ads. I'm like, no, it has the newspaper ads. Has like full, how does she full-page newspaper ads? I mean, half of the joy of
Starting point is 00:55:03 the newspaper is coupons. What are you gonna do? I don't know coupons. No coupons. No coupons. No coupons. Well, let's talk about nice things. Should we do it? Let's just get into it. Let's just, I'm ready. Yeah. All right, I'll go first for the first time ever. How about that? How about that? I bought a PlayStation 4 on eBay with PT installed. I did it, I did it, I did it, I said, I was talking about it, I was toying with it, I was fooling around and then I saw one and I bought it on a whim, I was probably drinking.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I bid, I put a high bid in and I won and then the person canceled the bid, they canceled the order or whatever. And I was like, what the fuck? And I emailed them, I'm like, what the hell? But then I saw that they had relisted it for like with a buy it now price, which was less than my top bid, weird.
Starting point is 00:55:58 And I bought it. And they were like, sorry, I just, your bid, like I didn't get the money for it. Which I think is like, that should be prevented on eBay. But the important thing is that I got it, it's sitting in a box right now, I haven't opened it yet, and I figure like, I'm gonna play it,
Starting point is 00:56:12 I'm gonna check it out, and then like maybe give it to my brother who I bought, this is actually to throw back to this. I bought him an Xbox like a couple of years ago, like an Xbox One, and all of our friends were like, why did you buy him an Xbox? Everybody has a PlayStation, and I felt really bad in shitty
Starting point is 00:56:27 because I at the time I was playing Xbox a lot. And so now like, you know, you can finally join, you can join the PlayStation. Oh, man, a day. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, I mean, that's my nice thing and I feel really good about it. Okay, so my nice thing are I, uh,
Starting point is 00:56:46 fuck, what were they? Oh my god, what's wrong with my brain today? I don't know. I'm like spaced out. I'm going to go on my nice day. Oh, um, so I went home last weekend, as they said, for a family party. And when I got to the party, I realized that we had not brought any of the vegetarian food that we'd purchased.
Starting point is 00:57:04 So I didn't need anything, then I went home and then I just took the groceries home with me. So my mom had found impossible burgers. And because they're like, weirdly hard to find outside of a restaurant setting. So I ate those when I got home and I was like, hell, thaw, and yeah, this is the best thing I've ever eaten in my life. It was incredible. So I've been going back to Whole Foods and buying the Beyond Burger
Starting point is 00:57:29 because I can't find the impossible ever and ever. And the Beyond is also really good. And I've been eating it. It's good, it's solid. For dinner every night. Well, that's maybe too much beyond. But I would just say that it's a solid choice if you can't get in the Impossible Burger,
Starting point is 00:57:42 which you can't really buy right now. Yeah, it was really good. The Impossible Burger was like on another level, but the Beyond Burgers are good, so there was one thing. Oh, and the other thing is, it's an old stand-by, but y'all, you got to watch the real house size of New York City. Oh, I can't. I just discovered last night that the Vanderpump's, the Vander police of Vanderpump is a real housewife. Yeah, it's that correct? It's been off.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And then I also discovered that I thought that all the people in Vanderpump rules were members of the Vanderpump family. No. It turns out like it's about like waiters at a restaurant or something. I have explained this to you. I feel like I wasn't listening because I was like,
Starting point is 00:58:20 oh really? It also makes the title a little bit more, makes a little bit, it makes more sense. You got to watch the show. I'm not going to, but I'm a glad to know a little bit. The New York this season is surreal. Their last night, a woman said that her dog, Died and it was very sad because all she wants to do is have children and this was a really surrogate child for her. And she said, she ends in the door with no hair or lashes, which is just like wild for her. And he said, she ends in the door with no hair or lashes,
Starting point is 00:58:45 which is just like wild for her. And then she goes, I called 911, the firefighters came, but they couldn't revive him. Oh my God. And she lives in a hotel. Some of them, Laura said, oh, I mean, somebody said, who was it? On that show, they talked about somebody being like
Starting point is 00:59:01 gender liquid. Oh, Sonia said, this one woman said, you know, I, I, she's like, I've dated men and women mostly, I prefer to date men, but you know, I'm fluid. And like weeks later, Sonia goes, well, you know, Barbara, she's got gender liquids. Yeah, it's, it's said, I, I don't know. Any man who can't give these shows a chance is not comfortable and is masculine at eight. They're so good. Brought to you by diet.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Sorry, brought to you by orange vanilla coke zero. Yeah. That's the only good thing in my life, I think. It's very good. Oh, and I listened to the Ron Burgundy podcast and that was kind of fun. It was a good, it's kind of funny. It's definitely takes a. It's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,
Starting point is 00:59:45 definitely takes, it takes a little while to come together. But when it does, it's really good. He had Deepak Chopra on and it was just really insane. And so it's Will Farrell doing Ron Burgundy in character, fully in character. Yes. And then real people. Real people. And he is, Ron Burgundy, if he, it's just as if he existed today, but had also existed back then, like he just hasn't aged, but they don't address it. It's like, it's like Austin Powers.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yeah, like timeless, but they don't address it. But it's him with interviewing real people. And I think, obviously, the people know that they're going to get to a comical interview. But there, some of these people seem really intent. He talked to a psychic and she seemed really intent on discussing like metaphysics with Ron Burgundy and it was great. Yeah. I um, I don't know. I mean, I'm, I'm, I would, I would listen to it, I guess. He said, he was like, um, now, uh, what did he say? It was something like, he was like, now, what did he say? It was something like, he was like,
Starting point is 01:00:46 now when you leave the house, do you take your broomstick and she's like, I'm not a witch. And she was very sincerely trying to explain the difference between like a self-identified witch versus a self-identified psychic. Well, it is. It was amazing.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I mean, you don't wanna be misaligned by Ron Burgundy. Like, I'm not a fairy. I'm a nymph, I'm an imp. We've all been there, huh? We've all been there. All right, we should wrap up. I gotta get, my parents are, apparently they're talking, they wanna go to the aquarium,
Starting point is 01:01:14 and I gotta put a stop to this before I get sucked into some kind of hell world where I'm in an aquarium with my parents, okay. If you get stabbed by a stingray, just leave the rights to input to me. You actually, actually the aquarium we, is that's near us, you can touch a stingray, just leave the rights to input to meal. You actually, actually, the aquarium we, is that's near us, you can touch a stingray, which is pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:01:29 I don't think they like it, but you know, whenever that's their problem. I don't think the Irwin family appreciates that. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow and as always I wish you and your family the very best. So I've just been informed that your family color coordinated with Isoda for an Instagram post. But the soda was surge. you

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