Tomorrow - 181: Truck Nuts

Episode Date: November 23, 2019

We knew we were going to Mars but, thanks to the Cybertruck, we now know how we're getting there. This week on Tomorrow Josh and Ryan discuss the latest out of Tesla, whether or not Elsa is gay in Frozen 2, if lightsabers can melt steel beams, and lots and lots of Google-related stuff. Put your seatbelt on and tried not to damage the windshield, because it's time for episode 181. We love you, Tony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to Tomorrow. I'm your host Josh Wotspolski. Today in the podcast, we discuss the cheesecake factory, Olaf and truck nuts. I don't want to waste one minute. Let's get right into it. All right Ryan, we're back. We said we do it and here we are. Back to back tomorrow. Just never keep not dying. Yeah. Keep keep keep surviving.

Keep never not dying. Yeah. Look, we're always buying. Is that double negative? You got another show here. Triple negative. Triple negative. We're going to we just got a speed away in our cyber truck to to stay alive. in our cyber truck to stay alive. Let's jump into it. Yeah. So let's jump right in. Elon Musk created the perfect post-apocalyptic environmentally friendly death machine. And it's pretty sexy. I wrote a thing. I wrote a thing. So I wrote a thing. I wrote an essay about how the cyber truck rules. I wrote an essay about how the Cybertruck rules, what's hilarious is I wrote a thing which we published on inverse.com and we'll be on input mag.com when it launches very shortly.

And then Jeremy wrote something also that's basically kind of similar for the outline, I had no idea he was writing, which is good stuff called Cybertruck rules. Anyhow, yes. So Elon Musk introduced this thing called the Cyber Truck, which I actually, until like about 24 hours before the event didn't ever think about a carabiner.

I mean, I was vaguely aware of its existence like that he was talking about it. And for some reason I was like, oh yeah, they're gonna do the 18 wheeler or whatever, but it's actually not what they were, I was like, oh yeah, I know, this is that other thing. And then they announced it and it's actually not what they were, I was like, oh yeah, I know this is that other thing. And then they announced it and it's like it is just in a completely outrageous, totally

off the wall just shocking and surprising weird new vehicle that looks like a cross between like, I said it looks like a low polyhumber, the car. And I'd say it's kind of, it's extremely Lara Croft PS1. It looks like, it looks like, I mean, it looks more like a Metal Gear PS1 sort of vehicle. It is, it looks like, it's very Warthawg. Yeah, it's like a DeLorean, like, it's a DeLorean. Like, quit the metal.

It's a DeLorean on crack. I mean, I don't know. I can't explain it. It's just fucking, I'll say this. Wait, with the original DeLorean not on more. No, it's on more, on more. No, it's like, but the, but the, but it's, I think personally, I think it's really fucking cool. And, and, and, and weird and daring and like, look, I mean, and I wrote

a thing, but my thing was basically like, you don't have to like Elon Musk, I kind of don't. But I have to, you do have to give it to him. I mean, I'm like, it's, it's, it blows me away that I now have a car that is like the most like technologically advanced car I've ever owned or seen. And I plug it in instead of putting gas in it. And I in my entire life, I never thought that would be a reality. Like this guy like upended our like total preconceived notion of what cars could be.

And like I'm I think it's really thrilling to see somebody not just release like show a picture or something cool and then release like a really watered down version of it, which is like what a lot of car companies do, but to just literally release like the concept car version of this thing. Like maybe it will not work at all, but it's just extremely amazing to see it happen. And the car just looks like insane. It looks so insane. It's like no other car on the road. And like I really admire, like I love any car that ever tries to just like fucking go for it. And there are very few that go for it.

Because most of them all look the same. Yeah, well, that's true. I mean, I have to live by my principles and say applaud everybody who tries something new in any sort of technology or fashion space because God are we starving for it. But my big question about the cyber truck and I think this is more of a philosophical question is who will be the first person to put truck nuts on it? Well, it seems like you think it'll be

grimes. So yeah, I don't know. I'm just saying. And then so everybody's like, everybody's like all these, so what would actually, what actually kind of like elicited the the me writing was, I saw these people on Twitter who were like these armchair suddenly everybody's like an industrial So what actually kind of like elicited the me writing was, I saw these people on Twitter who were like these arms are suddenly everybody's like an industrial design critic. And they're like, this is fucking stupid. Like, oh, the car you drew when you were 12 or whatever. And it's like, it's like, listen, like I get, you know, but like I see this all the time with design.

All the time people are like, that's fucking disgusting. And then like two years later, they're like, I use it all the time. Like it literally is a thing. It literally is a thing. I mean, that's really what. And then like two years later they're like, I use it all the time. Like it literally is a thing. New things. I mean, that's really what it is. People hated the look of the Prius and now every single car looks like an extreme Prius.

It's, yeah, but like the Prius is actually just like a very slight deviation from a regular car. But it's just like, it's just seriously like everybody wants to shit on all the new things because like it's easy and fun to be like, that's gross and weird and I hate it because I don't understand it. But like the reality things, because it's easy and fun to be like, that's gross and weird and I hate it, because I don't understand it.

But the reality is, a lot of the stuff that is the fringe design becomes the center design. I mentioned this in my piece about in the era of Paul Rand, the designer who designed the IBM logo, if you don't know, I'm like, look, I'm not he's fucking awesome. Not to be confused with Rand Paul. That's right. It not to be confused at all. Um, you know, and if you showed him the designers for public, which is like the, the, the design for public are the designers, Ian Anderson, the designer that created like the wipe out look and feel and like all of the warp record stuff and like, pople eat itself and all these like revolutionary like 90s and early 2000s design. Like if you had shown that to somebody during the Paul Rand era, everybody would have been like, look what the fuck is this. And that's true for like

so many things, but the reality is like sometimes you just need to, there needs to be like a little bit of a, of a, a stick that makes everybody move. And I think that the test, the actual Tesla, as it exists now, the modern, you know, current day Teslas are a great example of this, which is like, you know, Mercedes and Ford and all these companies are like, hey, we're doing electric cars too now. And like, we have a thing, it goes 300 miles.

And it's like, yeah, like, suddenly everybody wants to have an electric car because like people really want them. And that has never happened before in the history of automotive in the world. And so anyhow, I'm just saying like new things are good and people should fucking try new things. And whenever I see somebody make their hair trigger like, I hate this because it's new. I'm like, yeah, you hate it now because like you are bad at,

you know, you're bad at like accepting or understanding new things, but like soon when it's mainstream, you'll be like, yeah, that's the shit, you know? Well, it's also like the new normal is to dunk on an ironically tweet and be like, hateful and like, you know, snarky, that has become like immediately. Everyone's got to attempt their two minute tight two on whatever topic is at the mean.

It's tight two seconds actually. Yeah, and the funny thing about all of this is that nobody's funny. And I think maybe I'm also just getting burned out on the like, I hate this reaction to everything because like, especially like listen, like Steve Jobs is no like peach of a man. I don't think there's anybody who's ever reported

that he was a wonderful friend and great to be around. But it doesn't mean he didn't do really important work and move things forward in an important way. And like, obviously it was in a context of a specific time where now we have to be more critical of like consumerist culture. But I don't, I, if people think that this truck is this fucking environmentally friendly truck that is actually forward thinking is in some way cooler than a hammer and it appeals to a certain crowd of people in a cool way design wise. Good. Like that's good, like great. I have nothing, I'll make my couple jokes,

but like I have nothing, I don't know. Like I can criticize Elon as a person, like he especially, right before it launched, he was tweeting like the official truck of Mars and it's like you really don't have to do that and like this level of like an obnoxious egoism and he does. I mean, I was talking to someone earlier today at lunch and they said, you know, he just,

he can't help but want to be like meme daddy and like it's his least redeeming quality. Yeah. Well, here's what it, but it doesn't make the truck bad. I mean, what's actually so amazing about the Tesla is that it despite my sort of like, disdain for the person who, the person, at least the personality of the person who created it.

Like I actually don't think Elon Musk is like a, I mean, I think he's like one of these like smart dumb people, like, and I've probably talked about this before. Like he's smart, very smart in some ways, but very dumb in others, but it's like clearly like, I don't know, I mean, he's like weirdly like bad at a lot of things, but smart at a few things. And I mean, I think maybe that's true

of a lot of smart people a smart a few things and I mean I think maybe that's true of a lot of smart people but what do I know what would I know about smart people but um the it's like you I was kind of just saying like one I wouldn't count this guy out because he clearly has done something no one else in the world could do and two too, it's like the reaction to new things, like we have to like, you know, it's never gonna be widely accepted that people can react well to new things. But that kind of like, that pile on is just, it just annoys me so much.

Cause it's not like it's coming from a place of like, you know what I've spent years thinking about design and thinking about the way people interact with these things and like now I have an opinion. It's like, I've seen cars on how they normally look and how I think they should look. And now I see a new thing that I don't like and I'm going to talk shit on it. It's like, I'm nothing you can't comment on things like you can, obviously, if you're an expert in the field, but I just like a lot of like people who are suddenly have like a lot of very specific design criticism are not people who like have a history of design criticism and you know, just sort of like annoying and Well, it's it's part of the spectrum of like everyone feels they need to have an opinion on everything all the time and like we don't need a press release about every single thing from everybody and like Like if something happens in the world wide world the in Disney's wild world of sports. I don't need to I don't need to throw in my hat on like a joke or a take.

And I think I'm maybe just getting a little tired of and burned out on people coming into this shit that I know about and having some like big opinions. And I don't know, I guess it's also like, further to your point, maybe I'm just restating your point, it's like, let's evaluate this and when it has like a larger impact and like make your own personal purchasing decisions.

But like the guy's obviously trying to do something that's both cool and innovative, but also like there is a level of like good altruism to it. And like it's not as if he, this isn't like thoughtfully designed and marketed and thoughtfully like like he, what you you found the time to dunk on Elon Musk who actually, I don't have to like him personally, but actually it seems like him and his team put a lot of effort into making something worth introducing into the market.

But you don't have any time to snark like fucking Toyota who's just turning out the usual bullshit. Actually, Toyota has gotten way worse environmentally in recent years and and their design has gotten worse, and their products have gotten worse. Nobody has anything to say about that. Like, I got it. He asked for the attention, and so you're giving it to him, but I don't know. Maybe I'm just, there's just so much shit in the world. Well, let me clear, I'm not defending Elon Musk. I want to, I want to stress this. I'm not. I'm defending truck and and his team. I don't I don't think everyone at Tesla I need to be seen brush that I paint their head guy with I'm really just saying I wouldn't want anyone to do that to me truck looks rad and you know even if you want to

Even if you want a shit talk and shit on Elon Musk. It's hard to deny his Success in something that is has been hard to deny his success in something that has been almost impossible to find success in. I just can't wait for the day when he shoots one into space. That could be taken a lot of different ways, I gotta say, that statement. God, please don't make me picture that. So, in other news, my Google Stadia just arrived.

And we did our review of it. That's a good thing or a bad thing. I purchased one because I expected that in two years, it will be a funny thing that I own, and similar to my Gizmando. I am also in the X Cloud beta program. And so talking from my limited experience comparing these products,

Google does not understand gamers or gaming or like this space yet. I'm not saying that they won't you know throw money at the problem and brute force their way in. But it's very similar to Apple getting into producing TV shows where it's like, okay, you're just like jumping into like 100 year old culture and like a 100 year old industry and not really knowing like the lay of the land or like, where's up and where's down and your Google is asking for $120 for a service that isn't even half baked really yet. And I mean, I have to give it to them. It works. Like the thing works.

It's not great, but it works. But it's, okay, I wish I had a funnier take on this, but generally like Google Stadia, it's a little bit like depressing that so much time and energy is being thrown at something that, like fixing something that I don't think is really a problem. And from somebody who doesn't really know what they're doing, like game, the price of the Google CDA with its monthly subscription,

before you're even a year into it, you could have bought a PS4. And then you physically own your games, and you don't have to be connected to the internet, and it works better, and there are better games there. And I get that they're just trying to get in early, and this will be a long-term commitment for them You know as long-term as Google can get with products But like the game selection is terrible. It's all very expensive for something that you don't properly own

like it it they're one original unique fucking exclusive. It's a really bad game The controller is uninspiring But using it with Chromecast is not really the best way to play it. The playing it on your phone is ugly as fucking sin. It is the ugliest way to play a video game. I genuinely would rather play a game on my end-gauge than with their controller and weird phone setup. It's so bad. They put the phone over your hands so you can't see yourself using the controller. It's so bad. I think if you've got to look at the controller though, right, you're already in trouble. I'm the expert, but...

Yeah, but it's just weird to have your phone floating between you and the controller. It's just not the way my brain works on a playing a game. I don't know who told them that I wanted my hands under my Nintendo Switch. Like, well, I get it. It's not great. I will commend them that it does work better than I imagined it would, but if you load XCloud, you get all of the games with Game Pass Ultimate,

and there's a bigger selection, and Microsoft does a better job of curating them, and the service works just as well, and the Xbox controller is better and it is cheaper, and you also can get an Xbox and play your games. So I don't understand why you would go for Google Stadia. Yeah. The Chromecast is good.

I'm glad I have a Chromecast now. What I mean, my complaint is that I feel like it really works if you are including a lot of like games as part of the subscription. If it was $10 a month and you got access to at least 200 games, they don't even have to be new. I could be like, get this for your kid. No, I mean, I'm saying like, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

You know, like, it's just something. Just throw me a bone, you know? But for 120 bucks, to then ask me for 120 bucks to play last year's Assassin's Creed game, and it's not any better looking or more responsive, it doesn't have any extra features. It's a real bold ask for a community of people that like so thoroughly rejected the Xbox One's original vision because they wanted to be able to buy cheap used games. Like gamers are savvy about getting deals and wanting to own their shit. And game preservation is a bigger and bigger deal

to a lot of these people. And I don't know, I just don't see it for this product. Maybe I will be proven wrong. Again, maybe Google can just throw money at the problem. I mean, I'm sure they can. But I also don't know why they want to get into gaming so badly at all anyway. They're not very great at gaming on Android.

And I don't think gaming's a market that like is so stable and makes so much money for console makers that Google who already has more money than God needs to get into it. And I don't think that like consoles themselves are fundamentally need fixing right now. I think they're pretty great. So I don't really know I think they're pretty great. So I don't really know like why we're doing this, but I mean, a competition's competition, I'm not gonna tell them not to like,

throw their hat in the ring. I just don't see it for this right now. Well, I mean, yeah, it's a little curious as to why they're in it at all, like what the motivation here was ultimately, you know? And now Amazon is saying that they're gonna to do a game streaming service through Twitch, which is just like every time anybody makes a new product, Amazon has to make like a fucking photo copy of a photo copy, like, you know, diet Pepsi version of it, and it's like,

yeah, I mean, but maybe there's a very good reason why we should all be getting this idea. I don't know what it is, maybe Google knows. Maybe they're going to solve, one thing I do like about this whole idea, although I don't like the idea about not having things local, I think there should be a way to have things

at least some part of it be local. I mean, I realize they're streaming, but it's like, I mean, but wait, but wait, so wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, when they remaster like death trending for the PS5, you'll have to buy another copy of it, but you'll get all these upgrades for it, and it'll look visually better.

But when someone upgrades their game on the App Store, generally they update the app. So if you already bought it, you get that upgrade. What happens with the Google Stadia game that gets a remaster or a DLC bundle, or like, you know, how Mario Kart 8 came out and then Mario Kart 8 ultimate or whatever came out and it's like, what happens to your Stadia game? Like they haven't explained any of the logistics of this yet and it's a lot of money to ask for people from people with no like road map. Right. Yeah, I don't know. I don't get it. Honestly, I just don't. Maybe

maybe I'm that guy, you know. But I just don't fully, like video games are not YouTube videos. And they're fundamentally treating them like YouTube videos right now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but you know, it worked for YouTube, right? Yeah, but it hasn't worked for YouTube music. No. It hasn't worked for Google music. It hasn't worked for like Google movies. It hasn't worked for, so like, I don't really, I don't know.

I'm not like seeing it for it, but you know what? Again, I'm not gonna shit on a big company coming in and creating competition and what is essentially a three-way race for the last 20 years. Right. Well, although, right, I mean good. I mean, even though it won't amount to anything. I mean, I feel like this is a classic Google move

where they just are like, yeah, we'll do it. We can do it. Like we're put along, I'll put a little marketing juice behind it, and they did this commercial with Reggie Watts, is that who's in it? Yeah. Which is like a bad commercial in my opinion. Also, it's a guy who kind of looks like Chad

from Nickelback, Chad Kroger, I believe his name is. Is it him? Yeah, which is like a bad commercial in my opinion also has a guy who kind of looks like Chad from Nickelback Chad Kroger. I believe his name is it him. No, it's not. It's not But I was like is that Chad from Nickelback and I realized that the sentence is that Chad from Nickelback works both with a proper Now in a non proper now. Is that Chad from Nickelback? Is that Chad from Nickelback? You know what I'm saying? 100% good. Great. That's good.

I love it. All right, what else is going on? I mean, I don't know the other thing to say about Sadia. I don't know. I mean, it's just not, it doesn't, I got nothing. Well, I don't know if you're interested in this, but in other video game news, they're making a new half-life game which they have not obviously made in a very long time.

I'm interested in it, but I'm not obviously made in a very long time. I'm interested in it, but I'm a little bit of a mad about it. Because it's VR. Yeah, it's fucking annoying. I mean, they're using the crown jewel of their vault. It would be like if Disney was only gonna ever release beauty in the beast if you bought their $900 projector. And it's basically them being like,

if you buy the Valve Index, which we weren't sure a lot of people were gonna buy, we'll give you a new Half-Life game. And it's a little, like I can see what you're doing. Yeah, I can see what you're, I see you. And like, listen, I'm, you know, I'm there. I'm like, oh, I might have to get this VR headset that they made, which I wasn't even,

I was only vaguely aware of. And like, maybe it'll work, but I'm sorry, I have a family, okay? I don't see myself like in the VR gear, like I can play disappearing into your goggles the moment you get home to your family. I can play for, this is the, like I can play, I can play for like maybe two hours a night if I'm really lucky, you know? And also you can play a switch game or a PS4 game and pause it. Yes, yes, you can put it down. You can put yes

I can get it a bed. I can get it a bed. I can fucking play on the switch She can also sit with you and play that you can't do that with VR. Yeah, she's not going to she's not going to but the point is I Do not want to get into a fucking VR headset to play a game. I love the idea of Zelda playing Death Stranding with you. Is there maybe she's not? She, well, actually that might be like a good game for her to play with me because a lot of it is nothing happening for a long time, which is good, just wandering, which she's into. I just, I think like what I'm saying is, like I don't want to have to put on a VR headset

to play a fucking game that doesn't seem to actually need a VR headset. I'm sure it has some great moments. I'm sure it like, you know, has some jump scares or whatever, like put seriously. Um, I don't feel like it's, it's necessary to, you know, fucking, I don't want to get into gear to just enjoy a game. And so anyhow, it's robbing me of an experience that I desperately would like to have, which is playing the new Half-Life game,

which is like, now maybe this is the trick and they're gonna force me to buy the fucking thing and I'm gonna be jacked into the matrix. And next thing you know, I'll be murdered while I'm VRing. Hope you're happy. We can only hope. So, and other happier Google related news, Google has changed their ad policy around political ads to highly restrict how politicians and political agencies in organizations can target advertising at people, which is a little bit of just a donk on Facebook, but also just like a net good for the world.

Anybody who is creating barriers to politicians advertising and targeting to people, that's a plus. Yeah. A Google plus. Wow, please don't. What I'd like to see in this economy is I'd like to see the, I would like to see a law passed that basically is like, all politicians get like X amount of dollars to do their thing if they make it like pass the primaries or whatever.

Like maybe you can spend whatever you want through the primaries or you can spend some like number, up to some number of your own money through the primaries and then post primaries, like whoever the people are, just get like X amount of dollars from the government to run their campaigns, which is basically how they do it in other countries.

I mean, honestly, it should just be like, we should have a, a no private money in a political, I don't know, maybe that's bad or that's wrong, but it should be something like. Just rollback citizens united in your halfway there. Well, citizens united is a problem because it's like corporations are people, therefore, like they can give money in a way that does, does makes no fucking sense. Money is free speech, and corporations are people and Therefore, they can give money in a way that makes no fucking sense. Money is free speech, and corporations are people, and nothing matter. Now, if we could just limit the amount of money that's being spent advertising to people about politicians, it would dramatically change who we elect. Maybe for better, maybe for worse, but let's give it a try. With almost everything, I'm like, we've tried it

year away, let's try it a new way. with almost everything I'm like we've tried it your way. Let's try it a new way You know like so you're saying you want big structural change big structural change the kind that only my new favorite candidate Andrew Yang can bring about That's right. I'm in the Yang gang folks. I don't know I like to Andrew Yang of the debate the other night He was saying some stuff I agreed with then he'd be like be like, that's why we need AI, and I'm like, hold it a second. Hang on, slow down. Well, I think Andrew Yang, Amy Klobuchar and people to judge are all using the same trick, which is they say phrases that we've heard other people that we like say, and they say them in tones of voice that we very much like, and they say them in response to questions we want

answered. Yeah. And then the rest of it is all horrible and bad and and and so is Mary Mary and Williamson is doing this well she's fucking whatever she's out of the next man but like Pete had me fully tricked for a month by using progressive phrases and being gay you fucking love Pete you like Pete's my dude no he didn't love him I was just like I like that he's in the race and it means a lot to me and now I'm like fully trying to stop him with every facet of my gay like that he's in the race and it means a lot to me. And now I'm like fully trying to stop him with every facet of my gay agenda. I just think here's the thing about Pete. I hate him.

He's smart. He's a smart guy. He's like, he's like at a point where he's a smart, craven self-involved student. He's a point now when I hear him talk. I'm like, you just, you just sound too good at this. Like I'm like, I don't need to hear some folks

he bullshit or whatever, but like, he's like the fucking music man. He's a little too slick, and I know why he's slick, because every answer to a question comes back to being about Pete, and not about what he wants to do for Pete. Oh, okay. Well, my tie has turned. My tie has turned.

Why can't gay people support other gay people? Honestly, honestly, really. No, but look, I feel bad. I like Pete, the first time I heard him in Psalm, I was like, this guy could be the guy. And then, you know, now he sucks. So that's a problem. Yeah, that's a real problem.

But you're in the end, gang, so all of it's well. I'm not in any gang, but I certainly would not be in the end, gang. Though I do, I don't think he's completely insane. I mean, he sounds like think he's completely insane. I mean, he sounds like he's got some okay ideas. And like I think that maybe he sounds like a digital prophet, what am I to say? He's like shingy, he's just like shingy.

But I would, I am interested in figuring out who this fucking candidate's gonna be so we can get on with things. I don't, I'm not sorry, I didn't mean to take it into politics, but you know, you may be thinking of Andrea Yang. You can't avoid it at this point because when you've got Tim Cook, like, and Zuckerberg having dinners with Trump and showing up in their ads, his ads are being portrayed, but no, I look, I'm Ryan.

I don't want to put it on you. But we're turning against us. The Gays are fucking turning on the people. No, it's like, it's like, look, we got all of a sudden, all of a sudden, you got all these rights, and now you're turning on us. Well, I think the most important thing you need to know about white gay men is that they're white men. Gay marriage gets passed,

and fucking Tim Cook's hanging out with Trump. What gives? You know listen, when you told us we could have money and suck dick. Woo, now we're Republican. Well, there goes our one list, Nertone. Listen, I just, I'm just, I know the Tim Cook, the Trump thing is really infuriating.

I thought the Verge had a good story on it where they were just like, by the way, this is all bullshit. Like this is not a plant where this shit's being manufactured and also this has been here and also it's not even an Apple plant and also they weren't even at that plant. It's like very good shit. I mean, I just think, I think like, I'm sorry. If I was Tim Cook and they were like, the president wants to meet with you at your factory

and like deliver some remarks, I'd be like, yeah, we're not, we don't really wanna politicize what we're doing. Sorry, like, no thanks. Like, dude, you have more money than Jesus. Like, you can fucking just say no. I really loved that scene on succession where Logan Roy called the president a fucking intern and I wish that that was actually how some, I don't want corporations to be more powerful

than the government, but in this exact moment, maybe I do. I mean, I mean, you know, this may be an unpopular opinion. It's, you know, but I, like, I think it's possible for corporations to be run responsibly. Like, like, look at fucking Patagonia, man. I'm dying. I stand Patagonia. They're very good, I'm dying. I stand Patagonia. They they're very good. I think I don't just is over here arguing for Reaganomics on behalf of Newman's own. I like I like. I know Pat

Patigucci is some call it. I don't even own any Patagonia. I actually, but I do I have anything for Patagonia. I don't think I do. I haven't looking at a bag though. You know me. I have a bag addiction. Um, um, Just bags of keyboard, that's your home. Bag is filled with keyboards and then keyboards, weirdly stuff with bags. But what do I say? I, but it's possible to run a corporation and not be a complete piece of shit, you know?

It's just like, how can you fucking, how can you fucking, if you're Tim Cook, how can you fucking stand next to a guy who is fucking taking the civil rights away from trans people, is forcing them out of the military? How can you fucking stand next to that shit bag and fucking smile? Like, I'm sorry, there is a time when you,

your fucking hero is Martin Luther King, like, then take a fucking stand against this piece of shit. say it because it's really offensive to me that that then listen I own Apple products. I purchase Apple products. I have a fucking subscription Apple TV plus like an idiot because I like to punish myself but but you know I watch Dickinson like everyone I watch it dick it's in and trying to be in rage with each scene. My point is, how can you be fucking Tim Cook? I get it, I get it, you have a company to run, but you're making more money than God, you're fine, you're so fine. I'm a little fried at this moment, and I think maybe I made a comment earlier

where I was like, I wish that that Logan Royce was real, and I actually don't. I think I just came to the conclusion of what I wish that was real. I wish the government and corporations were fighting with each other and trying to outcompete each other for my approval more. And they're not, they're like hanging out together to screw me, but I think that, I think that the president is an intern. He's not even as smart as an intern.

Interns work hard and try to learn shit. I've worked a lot of really good hard working interns. I was an intern and I definitely would have been doing a better job than this. Next topic, do you want to talk about Frozen 2? Yeah, I'll talk about fucking Frozen 2. So I didn't realize it, but Laura bought tickets for us to see Frozen 2 at Zelda.

I mean, Zelda got hyped, you know, we saw the show. She's adding that into Frozen. Let me just say, we've seen Frozen a bunch of times. She doesn't give a fuck about Frozen. She's not singing let it go. She's not talking about Elsa and Anna. She's got a fucking costume laying around here somewhere. But she's not like, she's not one of these kids who's like,

I'm all about like, I want to be Elsa when I grow up or whatever. No, I think Zelda is much more into being a vampire with. She's actually more into being like an abused orphan. Like her whole thing is like, like Annie Matilda. You put any fucking, she'll gravitate towards any child who's like in an abusive, like an abused or abusive situation. I'm like, I guess I think it's because she's in such a loving,

healthy home environment here that she, she, it's like that seems like fun to her to be like an orphan living in an orphanage. I'm like, I like, I don't think it, I don't think you would like it. But, but, but so, yes, so we butt take us to Frozen 2, but so she was into it, right? Like, I love that Zelda's like all sort of like,

I mean, listen, no kid is not gonna stare at the screen when, you know, magic and songs and fucking, it's in Bel, spinning in a circle. So I've seen it all, I've seen everything, I know at the screen when you know, magic and songs and fucking parts in belt, spinning in a circle. So I've seen it all, I've seen everything, I know all the spoilers, I know everything about it. And I gotta tell you, I'm very disappointed. Spoiler alert, I'm not gonna give away big spoilers here,

but I wanna talk a little bit about the shape of things. First off, I think that they acknowledged in the new movie, they acknowledged that the first movie was a complete, like from a plot perspective, a total cluster fuck. Oh, yeah. And I mean, just like, it really, the plot is so insane and like out there and seems like they made like 16 changes. Like while they were, you know,

they made like 16 massive like plot changes, while they were, you know, it's like, oh yeah, originally I was supposed to be the bad character. Like she was supposed to be evil. Which you kind of can see at any rate, some very, very talented people had to work around a lot of notes. Yeah.

And so, and so I think the new kind of like pays homage to that. Thank you. Bye. I'm French now. Um, bye. How much? Yeah. Bye.

No, that did not stop French to me at all. Yeah. They pay homage to the first one by kind of making the plot totally insane in this one too. I will say, I mean, I think this, this movie basically and again not a that a spoil it for anybody I think this may basically Does confirm that Elsa's gay I think I feel like That kind of go there I think you need to see it and tell me but you know that's a big controversy people are like we want Elsa to be gay

I'm like I think she might be, honestly, based on this film. That's my vibe, the vibe I'm picking up, which is great. It's about time. But I thought that she was literally gonna like, you have a girlfriend in this movie and I was disappointed, no offense. I mean, no spoiler intended, but spoiler, she doesn't get a girlfriend in this movie.

Let me just say that. Would have been cool though. Would have been amazing. I mean, I was kind of waiting for, like we were in like a suburban audience. I was kind of waiting for, like we were in like a suburban audience, I was kind of waiting for like something like that to happen so I could see like people storm out of the theater. Yeah, they didn't go there.

Yeah, and even if they did, they would have done it in a way that like could easily be removed for Chinese audiences. Yeah, it's very good. I'd like to see it again. I mean, it was very entertaining, very funny, and like, you know, it's frozen too. It's gonna make, you know, five trillion dollars.

I hope so they can make a frozen three. You know, that's all I want. So, okay, that's my review of frozen. I just want to know what happens to Olaf for the next 40 years of my life. I mean, Olaf, there's actually some pretty intense Olaf stuff in this new movie. No spoilers.

Well, I don't want to spoil it, but there's some definitely, like, Olaf has a big role. For our all Google spectacular today, there's another Google story. Oh my God. Google hired a labor busting firm to stop its workers from unionizing and to that only spurred the workers into throwing their second biggest protest in Google history against management. Do they expect they actively hire the smartest, sharpest, most collaborative people in the world. They do everything they can to find those people and put them in a room together, and

then they expect them to not suss out. But hey, if we all work together, we could change this. I just think it's like this. I mean, I'm sorry, guys, but you're big enough that you definitely need to just let your fucking people unionize and deal with it. You're Google. You literally are the fucking single source on the internet where people find information. You have enough money and enough power.

Oh yeah. Yeah, I think, look, at this point, it's like if you're Google, you need to just suck it up. You're big. You're fucking huge. You're gigantic. You're one of the biggest tech companies in the world, you employ so many people. Same thing with Amazon.

I'm sorry, if you're not making enough money to support dealing with the union, then your business is bad and you should go out of business. I actually think maybe it'll have to be free three-day shipping. I think you could weather the storm. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't fuck around with that. Come on, seriously. I gotta get my two-day shipping going. I don't care who has to pay for it.

I don't care who has to suffer. I support. I do think, like, I do think like, you know, it's, we're at a time when corporations just exercise. I mean, these, especially, I just wanna stress this, like, these large corporations that are so, they have so much, like, they're so soaked into the soil. You know, they're so part of the atmosphere.

You know, like, an Amazon Google Facebook, Apple, I mean, are Apple employees unionized? No, they are not. Oh, wow. I mean, like, why aren't they? Is it that good? I don't know. I mean, maybe it's just a totally different thing.

Like, I don't know. Maybe people with Apple are just ecstatic, like, and feel great and never have a problem and never feel like they need to have Apple actually does have a fairly healthy, and I'm sure if Apple employees want to reach out and bitch, slide into them, DMM, they get a diversity issue. Yeah, I mean, please, by the way, tips at inputmag.com. Facebook manages to avoid these conversations because it just outsources any unpleasant

jobs out to a subcontractor, as opposed to Facebook proper. And like, but it's like Amazon and Google, they're so large and so powerful. And if their employees feel they need to unionize because they can't sleep at night with the moral decisions of the corporation, like, can the couple of the people at the top, like find their inner-gymni cricket and just, like, take that seriously? Because, like, again, I hate being the person that fucking hits this, beats this drum every week on the show. More, the moral decision isn't just because it's all nice and butterflies and rainbows. It's also long term better for business.

So like, just nut up, you can handle it. You could take the short term hit. If it's like long term better for both your business, your workers and like planet earth where we all happen to like have our house right now. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Fuck you. Just for the moment though, I mean.

Yeah, we'll all be in our cyber trucks on Mars soon enough. That's exactly right I mean so what do we what do we fucking worried about I don't understand why we're stressing out about this situation absurd totally absurd anyhow yeah I don't get it I mean I think Google's got to like I just feel really strongly like they've got to deal with it you know am I crazy am I nuts I don't. I just think like you're big enough. You're strong enough. You can do it. You can work with a union. So, and another interesting story, and I would like to hear your viewpoints on this, because I generally don't know how I feel about it. Nest cameras are in a little bit of a scondol, because they have... Oh, that's nice. That's pronounced. Boy,

Amsterdam really had a huge impact on you. It ends up that Ness cameras are really great way to film high jinks from trick or treaters, but you don't have any rights to air putting those kids on the internet. And like, so Ness has been in a little bit of a fight with people about the level of like, again, privacy stuff, but their latest thing is like, people are think that they're Jimmy Kimmel and they're trying to create like these viral videos where like, I gave a kid, you know, a nougat instead of a new get and like, they'll like put other people's kids on the internet and they'll be filming other people, they're filming delivery people and putting them on the internet and being like, look at this asshole

or this guy didn't do it right. And like, nest is saying like, well, it's no different than any other security camera. We're not any different. But the difference is like, you're purposely targeting and rolling out extremely easy ways to videotape anybody, especially minors in like rural areas in places where people don't have a certain

level of expectation of privacy, especially for kids. And it kind of gets into that area where like in California, there is some law saying that you can't take pictures of other people's kids in public, which is a level of like, it's like an anti-poperazzi law, which just happens to be help, might happen to be helpful in this scenario. But I don't think I'm not comfortable with, like I get the necessity of having a nest camera for some people. I certainly have had packages stolen.

I have a lobby of my old apartment and it was infuriating. But if they're not building in some kind of protection, which is like an auto blurs face unless law enforcement unlocks it or some kind of attempt at protecting people's privacy, especially kids, I don't know that I'm comfortable with like a company putting its cameras like ring doorbells putting their cameras. I keep saying nests, but it applies to ring as equally those cameras right on kids.

And we've talked in the past about having these cameras in your homes and I personally wouldn't go for it. I would maybe go for a closed circuit private system, but I really wouldn't be using the cloud-based system from a large corporation. I don't know. What do you think about all of this? It's kind of sticky.

Well, first of all, I think that, I mean, I knew a lot of people who used to be a part of this before, a lot of people who used NAS to monitor their baby, I was like, I'm not gonna fucking stream my shit to a server somewhere to see what my daughter's doing in her bedroom. And also, there's a delay,

so it was like kind of annoying and useless, in my opinion. Like literally, Like literally the, the like in-home transmitter, like the ones from like 2002 are like still the best type of like monitor you can get for a kid. But the whole ring situation is fucked up. I mean ring is fucked up.

Ring is like, like I get, like I'm down with ring if like you're using it for you wanna see who's at your door. That's it, it not to record them not to upload their shit to the internet not to Call the police on somebody who looks suspicious because like you're a scared white person or whatever you are like It's like all a bunch of like fucking white people who are like you know I've never seen a black person before and they're like I'm worried This person's too brown and they're on my doorstep. I don't know what to do.

And it's like, you know what it is. It seriously, fuck it is. Like, it's like become like a tool of like, like, like a late and le racist people who don't realize like, they're like, oh, wait, I'm profiling. Is what I'm doing. But so like, the ring is fucked up because it's like, I'm doing stop and frisk,

but just on my own doorstep. Yeah, like exactly. But so, so, so like so I think the thing is, ring should not encourage or enable the behavior. I don't think that we have such a widespread problem of porch theft in America that we need to start cataloging and profiling every person who steps up to, who steps like up to your house. And I think it's especially troubling when you consider that children might, you know, that using the images of children who are not your own in any way is like, I mean,

it's extremely messed up. Like it's extremely like bad and wrong and you shouldn't do it. like bad and wrong and you shouldn't do it. And I think that ringsh... I mean, ringshia cracked on a lot of the shit that it does, but at clearly it's a part of their business, which I find to be extremely disturbing. I mean, they just keep saying we're like every other security camera, but in fact, you are not like every other security camera.

But also, yeah, I mean, we need to like, we need to, we need to get, we need to start to step back from this like, police state that we're creating for ourselves. I mean, we need to, like, people need to recognize that we are contributing to a panopticon that is of our own making, and it's very unhealthy, and it's a very unhealthy way to live.

Like, it's very bad to know, I mean, I know it comes down to, tracking and even to some extent, when you can see people typing, it's like we're peering too far into things that don't naturally need to be peered into and it's destroying how our brains work. And so I think that fundamentally, like our comfort should be way less comfortable when each one of these things is presented. And I think that unfortunately for us,

it is up to companies, the companies that own these technologies and just make decisions about how they function to police them because there is no responsible self-policing going on and there is no responsible governmental policing going on of this stuff. But like the reality is at some point, we need to step back and evaluate whether it's actually contributing to an improvement of our lives

or if it is creating a police state that we're all living in, that we have created, where everybody's a suspect, everybody should be suspicious of everybody. Everything is like a cause for paranoia, and we're also being observed, observed, uploaded, analyzed by forces well beyond our controller understanding. So I get that's kind of a big picture thing, but I want, now look, I'm not going to boycott Amazon over this. There's plenty of not gonna boycott Amazon over this. There's plenty of things to boycott Amazon over it.

That's a much longer conversation. But I mean, if you're gonna do a boycott of Amazon, people, people keep saying that data is the new oil, but it's not the new oil, it's the new money, and you're giving away your money. Like, you have to think about when you make a trade, sometimes what you're purchasing is not with just money up front. It is with your data and information upfront. And that is what pays for you to use Facebook.

Is Facebook worth it to you? I mean, I'm not even sure that if money is the... We should try to figure out really, not the two of us, we're not going to solve it. But we should try to figure out like what is the equivalent? Like I'm not even sure there are there is an equivalent to what is happening that you can say it's like this for that or whatever. You know a lot of people, I mean, I think we strive in life to always try to say like data is the new acts like to your point.

It's something different. It's actually not. I mean, in the way that money is money and oil is oil, money and oil aren't the same thing. They operate in different ways. They connect, but they have different functions and different powers. I think that we need to actually look at data.

We need to start to think of your personal data and data in general as whatever, as a more true representation of what it is. I think that because data is, first off, is such an abstract concept, and also because it could be so many things and it has been so many things as it has evolved, like it's harder, much harder for people to even think about

as a kind of commodity, right? And that's what it is. It's like, it is something that can be traded for something else and there's something that has value, but it's a different kind of trade and a different kind of value. And so, you know, what we should all be trying to figure out is like, what's the best way to get everybody in the world understanding? What the, what the value of data is and what data represents when we talk about it? And what the right set of like fears and paranoia and protection we need to think about when we think about data. And so I think because because the problem is it's such an invisible entity, it's such a,

you know, you don't think about what your devices are doing when they're doing them. You're not like, oh, this is streaming out to, I mean, yes, of course, if you're streaming like video or audio or whatever, it's a very one-to-one, you're like, okay, now I have this like real-time connection out to this other thing. But like on a daily basis, you're not like, you know, when you're using the NAS cam and it's performing as expected and you're not like, there's no, you don't have to go like refill the tank, you know? You don't have to like put a credit card somewhere and swipe it.

It just is there. It just is going one way and the other. So I think that we need to start to think about how we conceptualize data in a way for people that where we can get them thinking about its function in the way it materially attaches to all of the devices and all of the software and all of the things that we use to communicate and don't even intend

to communicate with. So no one who buys almost, 99.9% of the people who buy the ring doorbell are not like this data, maybe this stuff shouldn't go somewhere else. They're like, oh, this is how this thing works. Like there's not even a question. It's like, oh yeah, this goes over here and whatever.

It's like not an issue. No one ever tells them and it's not clear to them that it is. And so of course people just use it. And I think that we need to have, I mean, look, at the end of the day, it's regulations is the answer. You know, you're fucking telling me that we're passing regulations where I can't have, I can't be cooking in a browser, but you can send a picture of my face

from your doorbell camera somewhere that I don't want it to go. Like, which data is more valuable? My digital identifier that says what I purchase on the internet or like my literal face, you know, like actual like my actual presence in the physical world at a certain time. It's fucked up anyhow. There's a lot to think about here,

a lot to unpack Ryan. And I don't think we're gonna get to all of it on this episode of Tomorrow. But I do love to ramble as you know. Well, I actually have some news for you Josh. We're gonna stay here until we solve it all. We're just talking to Tony here in luck. We're on this episode until we solve the internet.

You know, the cool thing about it is though, you know, if you just log off. Yeah, we just got to unplug the whole thing and start over. That's my dream is to get, you know, get like a scoop, get some scuba gear on and dive down to the bottom of the ocean floor where that cable is and get like a, some kind of like lightsaber type of device that can also get wet, I assume, you know, can like work on water. The lightsaber type of device that can also get wet, I assume, you know, can work in water. Do lightsabers work in water?

How do lightsabers waterproof? Tony, I need you to write in. I mean, with lightsabers boil water around them. Yeah, obviously hot, right? Yeah, they would. They absolutely would. So do lightsabers cauterize wounds? Like a low powered lightsaber.

Can you adjust the power of lightsaber to like stun? Are the colors representative of the power of powered lightsaber. Can you adjust the power of a lightsaber to like stun? Are the colors representative of the power of the lightsaber or just the Kiber crystal? No, I thought they were representative of like the alignment. I guess, but then you've got the purple one. You never see, because you never see a fucking, you never see a bad guy with a blue lightsaber. No. No, well, maybe we don't know. The Mandalorian might have some twists for us.

Oh, wow, we didn't talk about baby Yoda Baby Yoda Well, we should have spent two minutes on baby Yoda I'll go I want to get on I want to get more facts about this lightsaber situation because I am curious now like Like can you use a lightsaber underwater? And if so does the water get insanely hot to the point where like you really couldn't be in it And yeah, these are all things that are detailed and some fucking star wars, you know, a wiki, which I should go look at.

And I'm sure that the canon has changed four times and then everyone's going to be furious with us if we select one version of it. So, I don't think it's baby Yoda. I don't think it's baby Yoda. I think it's baby Yaddle. I'll leave it at that. I'm fucking tired of Yaddle being excluded from the conversation. This yaddle erasure.

Yes, yaddle erasure is happening and it's happening every day. Everybody's like, yo to this and yadda that. And it's like, there's a mother fucking other yoda. That yoda is fucking yoda. Lady, lady, by the way, you know what I love? I actually watched a few minutes of a video on YouTube and it was like, everything we know about this Yoda species. And it's like, you know the guy's like,

there's also a female version of a Yoda named Yaddle and that is kind of how he talked. But I'm like, it's like this guy did like a 15 minute video and you know George Lucas, like I know that George Lucas was like, you know, getting high on his own supply or whatever, but I know for a fact, I feel very, I don't know for a fact, I feel very, I don't know for a fact, but I feel very strongly that I believe that George Lucas was like, oh, what have we got like a female Yoda? And that was the extent of his thought on

Yadl. I don't think he was like, I'm gonna like go deep on the fucking situation here. I think he was like, oh, female Yadl, the fans will love that. And that way, or sorry, a female Yoda, the fans will love that. And that was it. And now people are like doing like deep ass and same thing with Yoda. He's like, he's like Yoda's mysterious. We don't know where he's from. He's very old and like, I don't think George Lucas went a lot deeper on Yoda than that. And people are like, it's rumored that he descends from the blah, blah, blah.

It's like, you know what guys? Maybe we don't need to go that deep on this. I like to live in a place where we don't need all the backstory. Like, I like Yoda as being. And I feel this way about a place where we don't need all the backstory. Like, I like Yoda as being, and I feel this way about a lot of canon. I like it being mysterious, and you can come up with your own head canon,

but it's not formalized. You guys like in one document, Yoda was listed as having four million midi-chlorians, and it's like, dude, midi-chlorians aren't real, number one, too. I like fucking comic book culture. I love the back stories and shit, but I just feel like particularly't real, number one, too. And I get it, I like fucking comic book culture. I love the back stories and shit, but I just feel like particularly with Star Wars, there's a lot of, I know there's been a lot of stuff

written about it and a lot of, there's a lot of stuff that's can and they're not can. And I get it, it's been 40 years of this shit. But I do feel a little bit like it all feels a bit tacked on to the original idea, which is like, let's make a kind of weird old guy who knows a lot of stuff. Yeah, I just feel like stories are better

when you leave them open to what is needed for the best version of a story. I mean, to some extent, you don't need to create like a functioning, hard real world that would actually happen because it isn't, because fucking, that's not how physics works. So just shut the fuck up and have fun.

We're in space. You can show Papara. Everybody's family and fucking and fighting. It's cool. It's real housewives with fucking magic I don't think it's actually that my friend. I don't think it is. I wish it was agree to disagree I wish you to disagree all right anyhow the point is look at no I'm not saying it's like don't don't don't not enjoy the backstory. I love the backstory

But I just feel like sometimes a little bit like it's a little bit like Like maybe you're doing more of George Lucas's work than George Lucas needs. Well, we were at drinks the other night The input team went to a hotel bar, which was extremely expensive drinks that fucking wrecked me for the rest of the week, but You're so good, but We got into a conversation about who would be which Harry Potter house which started ironically and then ended up with people actually arguing with each other And we had to take a break for a moment and be like, oh yeah, none of this is real. It was made up to sell like toys to children. Also, a funny bit, a piece of this information that you, a piece of information you may not know.

After those drinks, I purchased the Harry Potter book on audio cassette, on audio, on, on audible, whatever the fuck it's called. So I started listening to it. cassette on audio on on audible whatever the fuck it's called so I started listening to it and You know, I don't know I'd listen to it just that one night and I was it Actually give you a little Little sense of how dedicated I am to the Harry Potter universe. All right. Let's let's do it Let's do it. I gotta get out of here. I gotta get out of my life. Okay, you want to go first? You want me to go first? Oh my god, I think it's nice. Frozen two. I actually, I know one of my nice things,

cyber truck, man, that's the only nice thing we need to talk about right now. I, this has been a crazy week. I've barely had a moment to take a break. That's very much how I feel. I have a couple things, but this is not been a nice thing. I honestly don't, yeah, I mean, it's been like, I'm like, it's like impeachment and like,

building input and editing and writing and we're all very exhaustive and tired and there's a lot going on. We're like prepping for CES. That's a whole other thing. Oh boy. No, boy. And yeah, I don't know.

I don't, I like, I haven't had a minute to myself this week. So I don't even think I've had think I've been able to enjoy anything. I mean, maybe your nice thing is that you'll get to get a little sleep this week. Yeah, no, I won't. But my nice thing is that I'm looking forward to not having a weekend.

The weekend, that's my nice thing. I wish I had more. You're working for the weekend. I'm probably forgetting something, but I can't think of it right now. So I'm just going to say, I don't have any nice things except that I'm enjoying. I'm getting it. We're going to enjoy the weekend hanging out with Zelda. Two things. Mine are very large concepts because that's where we're at at this week. I have really over. This is maybe my most overbooked week in in recent history. I'm glad it's ending, but I love our team and it feels like we're assembling like Power Rangers or the Avengers and I really love everybody on our team and I'm

not just saying that to hype up something that I'm working on. I think we're all really nice and we work well together and I haven't coming in has been so great and you know I only have worked a little crew. I've only worked with Egor online so far because we keep missing each other, but we'll be together soon. And our crew is awesome. Our writers across this nation are all cool and awesome. We've been having a lot of memes and jokes and fun,

and I just love it. And I'm very happy to be working with a cool group of people. So shout out to them. Thank you. I agree. The other thing is, John and I obviously moved to a new apartment in Josh is sick of hearing about it,

but John is having a tough time deciding what he wants for furniture and was having a tough time finding the time to go shopping for this stuff and make decisions about colors. And I've just been having a couple drinks at the end of the night and just fucking pull him the trigger on shit. Oh wow. At first I was nervous that he was gonna get mad,

but every morning when he wakes up and we're getting refreshing our teeth next to each other, I go, oh look what I bought and he goes, I love that. And you know what, fuck it. Just have the confidence and the courage of your convictions. And remember that the color of your couch is not that important.

You don't need to have a couple spite about it. I bought a couch that looks like the one from Central Perk and Friends. And guess what, we're gonna have a lot of good memories on that couch. It doesn't have to be cool. It just has to be nice enough for the both of us. That's it.

I don't disagree with you. I think that's a great point. There's also something really liberating about just making a decision when you're struggling with, like, when you're struggling with, especially with shit, like, couches and chairs and things for a house, like, honestly. In the internet, there are so many couches.

Just take a couch. There's too much. I agree. It's too me. We live in a, we live in the cheesecake factory problem, which is like, how do you pick a cocktail at the cheesecake factory? We live in the cheesecake factory.

We truly do. The Trump app is very similar to a cheesecake factory. We're walking around inside of a juguette to cheesecake factory and there's too many flavors. Gaudi plays with too many options that is slowly dying with disgusting bathrooms that keep getting worse. You don't need it. You don't need all these cheesecake options. Just one piece of cheesecake is fine. It doesn't have to be fancy. It doesn't have to be new. Just give us a piece of cheesecake. Let us leave. Tony, you know, look, thank you for sticking with us. We appreciate it and we love you.

And hope we'll be worth it. I hope, I hope so. I hope for Tony Tony's a tough critic though, you know. We don't, let's not, let's get his opinion. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best, though I just have been told that your family has been taken to a remote location in the bed of a cyber truck, and I'm not saying it's Mars, but it might be Mars.

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