Tomorrow - 183: Input at CES 2020, Still

Episode Date: January 11, 2020

Input is still at CES and, to discuss the goings on, Josh and Ryan are joined by Input writer and former South African resident Craig Wilson. Topics discussed include: Grimes' nipples, James Bond's water scooter, Insta 360's connection to Walt Disney, and butts. There's also some talk of Westworld, which does not take place on the moon. Read Input, a great website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to tomorrow I'm your host Josh Woods, Pulski. Today on the podcast we discuss Lisa Vanderpump, Judgement Day, and Digital U. I don't always one minute. Let's get right into it. All right, we said we'd do it. We're doing it. We told you we would do it. We sent you a letter, FedEx, you a package. We were like, open the package. Open the package and inside there was a card and it said, we're gonna do it. And then you got another package a day later and it said, we're gonna do another podcast. And then you got another package after that. And it was a pig's heart. We fucking hate you. I'm kidding. I'm joking. I love you. Tony, we love you.

We would never see you. The only pigs heart we would send you would be one that was still beating inside of a pig as a gift to be a pat to be a pat for you Tony. We love you our fan. Anyhow, we're it's CS. It's the final day really it's the evening of Thursday. Of whatever week this is and whatever year. We've had all had our skulls cracked open. Point to open. Let me tell you something. Why if I connected Magic Bullet? You know, I'd be in. I've been, look, you may or may not know this, but I've found it the verge, go found it the verge. And you know, was running Ren and Gadget for a while, to pretty big, well known tech sites on the scene.

I've heard of them. And you know, we get a lot of money, a lot of money and a lot of people at both of those sites. I mean, not in the early days of Engage actually, but, but pretty much like towards the end and then obviously the version. And we would go to CES and I'm, and they're here, you know, actually, there's a virgin, have a trailer, but Engage has a trail. We get a trailer, we get like, we'd have, you know, 30 people.

This is like an old school CES for me. Oh, but I should say, we're here with, of course, Ryan Hullahan. Yeah. And, uh, I need to tell tell that that distinctive voice? Yeah. Craig would you like to introduce yourself? Are we a new member? Sure. Sure. I mean, I don't know me sound this host. Yeah. I go on. My name is Craig. Craig Wilson. I'm Craig Wilson. I'm a new member. That's correct. You may know him as a author of such posts as, hold on, I'm trying to say what you've written. What did you write today? I can't remember. you've written so many posts We we have written so many I definitely wrote the post about the Japanese photo photo photo

Photometry photometry. Yeah, photogrammetry photogrammetry. I don't know whatever. He's written a lot of posts on the website and Craig Wilson You help from South Africa true or false? That true don't hold it against me true True or false, you won the green card lottery to move to America. I won the green card lottery, true. You got married to several people to get them in the country. No, you got married, you sold all your stuff,

you moved, you and your wife moved to New York City. That's right. I randomly just randomly did it. Yeah, pretty much, pretty much. You were like, sorry, family and friends. We, you know, it's like that graphic, you know, no longer my best friend. South Africa's no longer my best friend.

America's my new best friend. There's something like a hot deadline. Yeah, a bureaucrat with a repostamp, an American bureaucrat, my favorite kind of bureaucrat. Essentially made a life-changing decision for me and I had a hot deadline. So, nothing, you know, that helps you get things done. And when those things are selling everything and starting again, um, yeah, it's great.

I'm living in Brooklyn. Yeah, it's pretty fun. I just, I can't believe that you out of all the cities you picked, you didn't go, it's, you got a new game. You plugged it in and you went right to expert mode. Yeah. So I mean, New York, New York is no joke. No, you know, if you're going to fail, you may as well like fail. They're big, they're hot. They're big, they're hard. They're hard. Yeah, I don't want to end up in a fly over states, unless I've really tried my hard out

and spent all of my life savings. Yeah, spoken like a true coastal elite. Exactly, very, very, because the coast of Africa, South Africa. It's true, which frankly is, you know, I can't forget Johannesburg, which likes to claim that it's the New York of Africa. Yeah, but there is no 24 hours supermarket. So I think it just needs to get back in its way.

No, wait, you're saying in all of Johannesburg, there in, by the way, what's population in Johannesburg? Like 8 million. 8 million, which is large. They need supermarkets. I'm sorry, you're telling me that in the entire city of Johannesburg, there's done a single 24-hour supermarket. I mean, you'll get like a mini-mort at a gas station,

but you do not get like a hyper, like a, you can't go to a giant supermarket at two in the morning, which I think is a travesty. Startup idea. 24-hour supermarket in Johannesburg. I feel like you could do very well. I think that was probably on the show for today. Very well.

Yeah, that's a, literally everything was. There's a new pop up 24 hour super market from Shenzhen trading limited on the international floor at CS. No, you know, I, we should have touched on this. But we're going to talk about CS. This is so, what we were saying that you had a lot of funding in previous, yeah, man. Oh, yeah, I know.

And I know what it is. It's an old school arrangement. This is a real sweat butt. So, so, so, when we first started coming here, so, so, people don't know. I know what's an old school arrangement. When we first started coming here, so, so people don't remember it's hard to remember this. And I'm sure I've talked about it before in the podcast. But in the early days of end gadget, when gadget blogging was still relatively a novel thing. And we were like, essentially inventing ideas like what an unboxing was. Yeah. You know, hands. I mean, that was pretty self-descript

hands on. No, yeah. But I remember when you guys reviewed the Yeah, you know, hands. I mean, that was pretty self-descript hands on. No, yeah, but I remember when you guys reviewed the wheel, but prior, that's right. That's where we're just after we chiseled it. Incredible. Um, you know, wow, but no, but you know, like, like, like hands on as a phrase is like something. I think about all the time, like, if it weren't for like, end-gadging and gizmodo in the early days, like, the word, like, unboxing and unboxings and hands-ons would not be a thing. Yeah, they just wouldn't. Anyway, so in the early days, like the word, like unboxing and unboxings and hands-ons would not be a thing. Yeah.

They just wouldn't. Yeah. So in the early days of bloggy, so we went to, and I came to Engage and not right at the beginning. I came sort of the middle period. But we would, so early on, we can get access to shit. So the Apple wouldn't like take our calls. We weren't invited to events.

People don't remember this. It was Walt Fucky Mossberg and David Pogue and Ed Begg, these old guys who wrote for all of the major papers, New York Times Washington Post, sorry, New York Times, Wall Street Journal and what's the other one, USA Today. And maybe Washington Post was in the mix or somewhere. Anyhow, so we wouldn't get invited to shit.

We wouldn't get invitations to think, like we didn't go to Apple, we didn't get review units. We come to CES and we'd be staying in some shitty hotel. I mean, it's an off-strip hotel. I mean, you know, and like, just like, just dying, killing ourselves. And then progressively we got, obviously we got bigger and more popular and gadgets started becoming not such a strange

thing that only nerds like, but everybody was into. Obviously we got more money and we got bigger and more popular and gadgets started becoming not such a strange thing that only nerds like but everybody was into. Obviously we got more money and we got more access and it became easier and you know I'll never forget like when we were coming to CS with the verge like and the early maybe our first or second CS and we were like talking to like you can get like a table at some of these CS events you can get like a table like showstoppers or something. There's all these dumb events in CS, like CS unveiled. And they have to show off their stuff. And showstoppers, like where these companies show off

their stuff that's again, a more confined like environment. Yeah. But I remember we were like, we were like, oh, what? Like we can get a, we can put our stuff down at a table and like, right from the table. And there, and there were like, there's power strip, there at a table and like, right from the table. And there, and there were like, there's power strips,

there were like, the people were like, yeah, there'll be power strips, we're like power strips. I mean, we were bringing these, we were just even lugging these fucking battery packs around. We used to have like our bags were twice as heavy because we had these massive fucking battery packs. And all the batteries only have two double A's

or the charger. Yeah. Anyhow, so, but, so this trip with input because we have a small team and also like we're in this like we tied by a little bit the other day yesterday, whatever the fact it was. You know, we're in this experimentation mode where we're just trying to see what works and stuff and not and we're not obviously like funded by, I mean we have a large media company that we're a part of but it's like we're doing input in a way that is like we're starting very small. I want to start small so we can figure out what the right we're part of, but it's like we're doing input in a way that is like we're starting very small.

I want to start small so we can figure out what the right way to grow is. But it's brought back a lot of memories of being a CS and I have to say, I've had more fun at this CS. I mean, the CS sucked as a show. Like, like the actual content of the show was not good. But in terms of like the experience, in terms of the experience and, in terms of the experience and and like feeling

free of the constraints of like, oh my God, we have to encyclopedically hit all these things are, oh my God, ACEs has some new laptops. We better like get those on the side. Everything go laptop. It's like, it's like we've been more selective and more like kind of going down our own weird paths and like, you know, Evan found all this weird stuff and you found all this weird stuff. It's like very, I'm pointing to Ryan when I see you, Craig found weird stuff. He was on a treadmill today, getting in shape, trying to work off the, trying to work off

these several pounds of Vegas food that he's attached to his body somewhere as we all have. But anyhow, so it's been a lot of fun. But one thing, and I had this conversation with Laura last night, like I for the first time ever, I've been to Vegas for like, I don't know, like this is, I don't know, this is like my 10th time to CS or however many years it's been, it's been a long, fucking time. This is the first time ever I was like Vegas is actually kind of fun and cool and weird and

like I could imagine having a good time and have I had a good time here. I've been having a good time. I can imagine coming here recreationally every other time I've ever been here, I'm like, I gotta get the fuck out. Not mainly I gotta get the fuck out like I'm leaving You did a night bump your flight up. I'm like take the morning flight or take a red. I'm like I'm taking the red But like but it is actually just has been really fun and like I don't know I don't know where I'm going with this. What the fuck am I talking about? We've had it is the interest of the summer.

We had an interesting, different kind of CS and I think it gave us both a better experience and better stuff on the site. But I would like to see Craig, what stuff you saw that you liked and really hated. I mean, I'm sorry, but the stuff I hated list, I think is a lot longer. Oh, I mean, because there's so much stuff.

If it wasn't, there'd be a problem. So I mean, there's the usual like CES bunkum. You know, there's that like, there's those, what was that word? What was that word? Bunkum. Bunkum. Right.

Right. A word. Fluff. I think you use bunkum in a post and I was like, what the fuck is this? Bunkum is absolutely a word. I mean, but it might be a word, but. There was all this filler. Yeah.

And you get the bunkum. It's fun. I like it. You get to certain holes and you know, it went like the tables get thinner Yeah, and the the people manning them get more and more bored looking We hit that sort of point and I was like well, this is when you know you're in the wrong part of the hole It's like the endless endless air pod knockoffs. Yeah, tables and tables and tables and the thing is I'm like you all paid to come out here

You've set up your booth you got signs you got all this product. Yeah, and they're like, you all paid to come out here. You've set up your booth. You got signs. You got all this product. And they're like, I don't know, man, it's like an AirPods. You're like, OK, it's actually- Keep on getting- I mentioned it before. I mean, I mentioned the international hall, which I don't even know, actually. I mean, I didn't go, I didn't walk around enough to see,

but they may not even do it anymore. But it's interesting because the international hall used to be like that. It was like weird knockoffs. And like, chinchy, like, you're kind of like what is this like bone induction we talked about the yesterday bone induction sunglasses or whatever but I think the international hall has has now they just were like well these are just now the companies some of those companies actually that started small that were in the like the international hall which

is off to the side kind of shitty thing where it was like smaller companies from obviously not inside of America, although most of these companies are not American companies, but like they would be showing off this weird prototypes or demos or whatever looking for like, you know, people to distribute. So those companies have grown, but like the whole thing feels more like that now. The whole thing feels more like there's like a thousand like weird hoverboard makers on the floor and you're like, it's like, the way it used to be with TVs here at CS, the way it used to be like, everybody has a TV. Now it's like, everybody has everything.

It's like, Samsung's like, even Samsung's like, you know, they're like, we have TVs, but also have you seen our hoverboard. You know, it's like, can we talk about Samsung for a minute? Samsung, but whatever you want. Great, great. I think you're in the show.

Sure, stuff that I... Did you get trapped in Samsung City? Oh, God, yeah. I mean, they're trying to get past LG. Look, LG's wave is always great. Like it visually, but the fact that it stops people as they come through entrance. People are not good at walking here. And I will say LG you have to stop playing like, do, do, happy joy music. Because I was like, I'm in a rage mode. And it's only making me angry. And I was like, they're gonna play, man. I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I I like the ball is this bolly robot that you know allegedly does things but it's not firstly it's not gonna do them as well. We discussed Bolly yesterday claims to be a good take on it. No, this is an problem. This is another one of those things that LG did first and demonstrated no one wants to buy why are we doing this again? Also, I fear that this ball rolling around

my apartment is just gonna remind me that like Dirt and Cumulate's really fast. And every time I see it's said, filth line. Yeah, it's gonna get caught in the cat hair. It's gonna make me really like to spare. Like there's no way I'm knitting that thing in my house. There's no way. But it's a ball. I mean, wouldn't it be not that,

it wouldn't that the cat hair kind of just roll around it? It's gonna get caught in its little grooves. It's gonna make it look terrible. I'm gonna look at a camera video from it and it's gonna be all covered in hair. It's gonna be like, you little filth monster. It'll be fighting with my Roomba. One of them's trying to clean the other one.

I don't know, we got a robotic vacuum. I bought one for Christmas. We had been talking about one. Like Laura had been like, we should can't one. And we got one which is like an it's called a Robo Rock. It's made by it's made by like I think Huawei or might be another brand. There's a million of these. But I was the first time I like maps your house and I'm like well that's a good way to worry about well it has to I mean it doesn't happen it like goes around it

to it maps your I mean but are like, we should return this. Like, we're not. Did you see the AI one that sort of like lifts itself off the ground to clear little toys or something that might be on the ground? No, that's a good idea. The other thing was straight up, destroying our Christmas tree area.

It was like going into it over, it was like trying to get over the mound of presents. I'm like, that's not an area you need to clean. Like, you can stay away from that part right now. But anyhow, but like, but I'm kind of like, we got the robot vacuum and I sort of like don't, I'm like, maybe I don't need the robot vacuum. I don't get the, I don't get the appeal to me.

I want a robot to do something that is, that I need a robot to do. Not like become a new thing. Like, I don't know that I need a robot to do. Not like become a new thing. Like I don't know that I need the ball as a companion or whatever it's supposed to be. What I need is a robot to make me a martini. Yeah, that was exactly the same. I need a martini robot.

And that doesn't spill it. Well, that's the one I need. Because right now unfortunately, my martini robot is Laura and I don't think she's loving it. Now, I think she one I need. Yeah, I don't. Because right now, unfortunately, my martini robot is Laura, and I don't think she's loving it. Now, I think she does like making me drinks, but sometimes she definitely rolls her eyes at me when I'm like, could you make me a drink?

But which happens, by the way, very retrograde in our house, but it's the one thing that I basically ask for, because she makes better drinks than I do. There's a lot of... Now I say, now I say, I'm sexy. Let me be clear. Laura doesn't do anything. She doesn't want to do. Let'm not really a sense sexist. Let me be clear. Laura doesn't do anything. She doesn't want to do.

Let us move on from your sexism. She makes it and she makes it amazing. Digging it makes it amazing. I don't like the cornhole. The corn cob, the corn cob. Yeah. No, no, but she makes it great. She makes it great, Vesper.

That's all I'm going to say. OK. There's a lot of robot companion stuff, which is funny because it's never taken off anywhere, and yet people keep pursuing it. And the best one I saw was not a dog, and it wasn't a cat, it wasn't a little BB-8 ball. It was a spider.

No, it was like a cushion with a tail. It was the cushion with a tail. Because it was a pillow or stuff down. It was called like the wazoo or something. It was a little bit better. It looks like it's got a furry little appendage that wags itself to you. And I like it.

Yeah, I like it too. I don't like the idea of the tail of it just being a ball with a tail. I feel like it just is like, God didn't finish. Like what happened? It's like the matter generators broken. Or it's like, there was a malfunction with the transporter and... No, it's like it's like you know there was a there was a malfunction with the transporter and no it's right at this

way this is a lens yeah just like yeah it's like this embodied brain exploded somewhere if you love pillows and you love cats let's take the best of both it's furry it purrs but it's not to feed it man I'd be so be there it'd be good to be for you know speaking of pillows you know cat fans now I actually were there's were in talks to get a cat right but I'm defeated man. I'd be so be there. It'd be good. Be for you know speaking of pillows You know catfam the pit now actually where there's wherein talks to get a cat right now I'm allergic but uh Where there's shots? No, I'm like any fucking shots for cat. This tablet. No, there's it. There's a type of cat called a Ballonies, Ballonies. Yeah, which apparently are much much. Yeah, yeah, but not uh

Ketsa already flush it that cat is gonna be especially What do you mean like the more pure bread they are the more cat like right the more obnoxious I'm old. It'd be very nice Knock things off count as you could get a dev in Rex too one of those. Yeah, I want a dev in Rex That's the one I want but Laura's like where it's like she's like these are prone to like health problems because they're like so Bread like no you can get and they turn one of the pillows with a table. Yeah, no, no, we're going to get a mouse or man, we're going to get them to scare away the mice and

and or kill them because I like to really see that I don't want to put traps out. I don't feel good about it. Apparently, if you get a cat, like the mice will stay awake because they like the smell of the cat. Yeah, they're good for to have in the city because they just keep most pets. We're in the country. We need a country cat. I know. We need to country cat. We need a cat with a we need a cat with a little straw hat and one of those pieces of wheat in its mouth, you know, hang it sitting on the

porch having lemonade. You want an anime movie where my cat and your cat switched places and they try to do it. It's called city cat country cat. And I'm like, this cat doesn't know anything about bloating down. Country cat in the city. Or something like that. What would we call it? It's like the cat swap. The cat's when the cat's away. The cat.

Oh, the cat's away. Where the cat's away is what it would be called. And there's one cat, the cats of swap places. Honestly, this has legs. I'd for legs, unlike the mission. Yeah. And that was the. Hello, read Hastings.

If you're listening and I do, I know you are in charge of all programming decisions in Netflix. Please produce our hit, fill more series. When they catch away, I would watch the trailer for that. But also because the Netflix though, I don't have a choice. Exactly. That's true. They do force you into the trailer. Don't I? It's how they get you. It's the whisper to the get you. First, you're first, you're turning on Netflix. Next day, you know, you're in episode six of the Witcher.

And you're like, I hate this, but I couldn't stop. Anyhow, okay, fine. So, okay, more things we headed to see. No, let's talk about whatever. Talk about whatever I want. I didn't, I'm sick of seeing TVs that are transparent or have no bezels or whatever. I like it.

I like it. But you know what I love? What? LG's giant wave of TVs. This robot, this robot, this we did hit this tumbling robot dog or whatever the fuck it is. Yeah, I'm blue to you. I'm love that one. It's a robot dog that dances and is also a speaker.

This to me is the ultimate fuck bullshit shit of C.S. So I'm fucked. I'm sorry. I mean, I love Ibo's as well. Like I love Ibo for five minutes and then it kind of makes me sick. No, this is like an Ibo. This is like an Ibo's like an Albert Einstein compared to this thing. Okay.

This is like the dumbest fuck you. I can't believe she likes it. Well, I did it. I did it. I did it. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I didn't like it.

I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. I didn't like that. You're saying this will follow me around playing Adam Lambert's ghost count. That's really good to know. No, I don't like this bought at all. I do not care for it.

I think it looks chinsy. I think it looks like it looks like the thing, yeah, $149. This is like a sharper image product. It looks like it looks like something for the pages of the sharper image catalog, which is maybe an outdated reference. Anyhow, so no, CES has been, has been absolutely horrible, but very, very good. This terminator, we have the terminator head.

I mean, that was great in terms of like it's creepiness. It was hugely successful as a creepiness. One of his eyes kept going in the wrong direction. I was like, it was like, what it actually looks like is, and if you go to the website, which you should, it's said that you would you should all the time, input mag.com, check it out.

Load it up on your browser. Just keep reloading it. And we're browsing. Any browser available, create a bot that reloads it every 45 seconds. No, but this, so it's like Arnold Schwarzenegger's face as the terminator. And it actually looks like, if you've ever seen the film,

total recall. Yeah, yeah. Great Schwarzenegger film. There's a scene where in this spoiler learned by way of the other, it's been in 1988, so if you haven't seen it, like this is your problem. You've had time. No, but you've had to say,

you've had to say, maybe actually might have been like 91. And it doesn't matter. The point is you can't spoil a film that is 20 years old. It's old to that. 30. But there's a scene in the movie where Arnold Schwarzenegger's on the run and he dresses up like a very large woman.

You know, he wears like this crazy like mechanical suit and then like he removes his head like that face starts going weird and it's like something's malfunctioning and then like he removes his head like that face starts going weird and it's like something's malfunctioning and then he starts to remove the woman's head from over top of his and it actually this bot actually is moving like the woman's head moves and total recall. So I can't tell if it's like some kind of like wink it's like some I go in the wrong direction wink to total recall. It's really disturbing. Anyhow I'm gonna buy one it's $25,000., we to total recall, it's really disturbing. Anyhow, I'm gonna buy one, it's $25,000. As far as I can tell, it does absolutely nothing.

It just looks weird and unsettling. But I'm into it, I'm into it, I like it. And I love it, as a matter of fact, anyhow, anyhow. Yeah, so yeah, we'll Craig, what are those things usually? I mean, I actually liked, I liked Insta360's new stuff. He would have said, sorry, I don't know anything about this brag, and you please explain it.

I'm gonna start to run down. Gladly, so they're claimed to fame, which is probably why you don't know about them. Go on. Is 360 cams. But high end 360 cams. This guy loves 360 cams. I like 360 cams.

I like 360 cameras, yeah. And you know, the first one's the LG terrible. The first Samsung, the gear that looked like like an eyeball on a stick. Is that the one you literally were using yesterday? Ah, that's the LG Terrible. The first Samsung, the gear that looked like an eyeball on a stick. Is that the one you literally were using yesterday? Ah, that's the second gen that looks like an eyeball on a stick. That's called the gear 360 camera. I'll say this.

The gear 360 camera. A lot of shit talking 360 cameras over here. And yet every person on your team has shared the photos. He is taken with those 360 cameras. I haven't shared it. That's a good point. I mean, given it. Well, I said every person.

Yeah, I mean, give it to you. Anyway, anyway. That every reptile person. I mean, given it. I'm a good person. Well, I said every person. Yeah, I mean, give it you have a good one. Anyway, anyway, I'm a good reptile person. Go on. Insta360, as the name suggests, make 360 cams. But they make, they make like the crazy high end, like $14,000 ones that you can do, you know, like the cinema grade stuff on. Right, I do like some bullet time or something.

Like, um, yeah, you like, which reverse bullet time, I know. Like Disney Circle circle vision thing. What's circle vision? What they did, like high quality camera, they filmed so that they could play in 360 degrees movies, Walt Disney built in Disney World, but it was really difficult to get any movies to play on it.

So it kind of played the same two movies for 50 years. It's a good thing. You're saying it played the movie in 360 degrees? Yes. Sounds like just a regular movie though. No, it was like specialty content. Specialy shopping. It wasn't like Snow White.

No. What I'm saying is this is actually does this without teams and teams of fucking like the most elite movie makers in the world for a billion dollar. My brain was like desperately trying to figure out like really do the like visual math on how like a normal movie could be 360.

I was like, what, I'm like, does it, does it, how it's unwatchable? Yeah. You would have to like connect like the sides of the film would have to connect somewhere and the top of it. And I was like, how would this work for like a normal film? I mean, I've seen I'm a expert. It sounds dreadful.

Anyhow, tell us about this. Well, like the Macy's Day Parade. I love you at 360. Verizon sponsored it or something, and you can turn around it. I do, they? Yeah. Yeah, they love that.

I know, I can't tell them. He's been in New York for like one month. He's like, yeah, like classic Macy's Day Parade. I watched it on the TV. He's like, let me tell you a thing or two about Thanksgiving. Anyway, the point is, we've got the So D railed, which is for fit. Let's have this for. It's the point is we've gotten so derailed, which is for fair. That's how this works.

It's the 360 cameras, but like for people who care. Yeah. So who want better than LG or Samsung can offer. What they've done now though is they made a modular camera that can be a 360 cam, but can also be two kinds of action cam, very much in the form factor and design of a GoPro or a DJI Osmo action. Right. And they're all these cute little like blocks that click together and attach to a battery base.

And the two, I think the action can bits are actually the most interesting because there's a regular one that does like 4k. And then there's a Liker co-engineered one, sorry Huawei, who used to get that on of themselves for the, you know, getting into bed with Liker. who used to get that on of themselves for the, you know, getting into bed with Liker. And that's got a one-inch sensor. So you can get, you know, really, really like high quality footage, great dynamic range, great low light performance from a thing that, from an action cam, which I know that some people who are who do things that warrant owning action cams have been into, but there's cool other features like if you are a vlogger, you can connect it to airpods. So you can use the mic from your AirPods to record audio to your video. Oh, that's really useful.

Oh, you can do wireless connections. That's interesting. How do you use AirPlay? I want to use AirPlay. Good question. I am. Which thing to the other? No, AirPuts don't use AirPlay.

They use Bluetooth. No, they use Bluetooth. Yeah. But they have the W2 chip in them. So the W1 if they're the first generation. Yeah, they're the first generation. I'm sorry. I'm trying to try to put it on first generation. I'm sorry. I didn't

and try to try to try everybody has the pro. I just don't like modular system. It's also. Yeah, that's something really useful. It's pretty cool. And they've actually made a mount as well for like the 360 stuff that you can put it on a drone. So you can put it on like a Mavic Pro. Oh, no, if you want to. But I just realized, I know like that, I think like do we stop. I just realized we're going to come to a CES in a year or two where it's all gonna be people with AirPods on and robots flying around filming them on the show floor and the robots are gonna bump into each other

I think you're overestimating Like how much penetration that product is going to get and Estimating how regulated drones are still gonna be for a while. Yeah, but not on the CS show for me. Yeah. There's a free for all here. Fuck it. Drone. No regulation.

Drones fly in 8K TVs that the fucking robot butlers is incredible stuff. Um, I like that product. You like that. You like that. I'm trying to think, I mean, listen, I mean, I was only on the show floor one time. And I got in and out to be honest with you. I did not go. This is true for me.

It almost happened. The slow walkers get the better of you. I just didn't. I just I should have gone. What what I should have done is gone today because it would have anything a little bit less crazy. No, it was not. It was a crazier. Yeah, it was the whole week today.

Oh, well, did you see the depth stop? Yeno speaking of no, No, do we cover it? Why is it down on the website? Don't tell me about it. If it's so cool, you're telling me about it We didn't post it. You're dead to me. All right. What was that? I said your pigs heart What would I do? It was too It was a concept piano because you know concept cars on fun enough. I love concepts and it was like a like a black Shiny frame of a grand piano with a projector in the lid It's a totally purposeful purpose list lid because it's an electronic piano. Yeah, so there are no hammers

Yeah, I was just fully electronic. It's just the shape of a grand piano. Right, and it's a white house of a guest art But that's because it's really like pointy and angular and shiny and black Okay, it looks like if you were like you like high Kylo Ren were playing, if he was like, sadly playing the piano, this is the piano he would play. Exactly, or you'd have felt it was doing drop sticks. Yeah, that is the piano you would want. What do you think? You know, you know, you...

Oh my God, Kylo Ren and Ray playing Heart and Soul. It does, it does. It does. Please, I do not ship those two. Now, I actually don't care. What do you think Palpatine does in his downtown? He can't be like, he can't be like, to cream things all the time.

He can't constantly be like, buy a apprentice. Like at some point he's got to have lunch, right? Yeah, I think Palpatine, I know he throws a hot pocket in. He turns on you. No, he's going to lead a train. No, there's no intergalactic Netflix in the Star Wars universe. Oh, yeah, they just have to deliver them on droids.

You know, you never, all they do for entertainment is play that fucking chess game. Yeah, I know. It's the only game in all of the Star Wars universe. They play the chess game and they chop each other's lifestyles. I understand. They're like, we have lights be travel, but nobody invented a handheld game console in that universe.

Nobody, there's no Genesis, like nobody's like, hey, put the TV on. What the fuck do they do? Do you think the holograms would be a little less chunky? I mean, yeah, I write at this point, you think you get the framerate operas up there. Oh, and I have multiple people in them. Yeah, it's very strange.

Yeah, it's right. They're always glitching out, but it's very strange. Yeah, is there entertainment, hologram entertainment? We can get the messages. All they're used for are sending dire messages. It's always like dire messages and playing this one game. Yeah. Yeah. We'll be speed racing all the time. Well, they have to go to casinos and you hate it. That casino scene. I did. Actually, that actually, I stand corrected. There's a casino planet where all the fun happens.

All the games are played. I was literally like, it was like, it's like space Vegas. Space Vegas. You're like, wow, look at all the people here blowing money and while there's the rebels are out there trying to fight dark forces. Everybody's like, yeah, we're not worried about that. We're on a different planet.

Sorry, I'm just kidding. I don't know about Star Wars. We talk about this, about how many planets they blow up? How like planets are like a dime a dozen in the Star Wars universe? They blow up so many planets all the time. You know planets are a dime a dozen in all universe. I know that, but in the Star Wars universe

they all have like lots of people on them. But also they go to planets all the time. They land and whoever they need is like right there. And I was like, to go anywhere else. But it doesn't look like Modeshi Road. I mean, how are there enough people to kill a Kevin Cove? It's also never really clear. That's a great point, actually.

It's a really. And why would you keep living there? Well, you have to like the fifth murder. Well, it's like a theory, right? There's got to be a theory that she's the killer, right? Yeah, that's absolutely. But it's like, it's really weird. How do you people not know about vampires?

People are being murdered by the vampires. It's basically like, no. Well, the Mothershi Road thing is interesting, because it's like, it's like, she's she wrote thing is interesting because it's like it's like she's not only are the all the people it's like people is just somehow she's and can like she's part of the investigation of every murder right it's like but you also always notice them it's like that's what I'm saying it's like people she knows plus she ends up like doing the investigation yeah in real life the FBI would be really on. I think they'd be like, we noticed a pattern. We've like, they'd pull out one of those fucking maps, you know, with the pins on it.

It would be like a web with everything pointing back to our house. All of the lines would just be ascending from her house to the murder sites. Anyhow, getting back onto the topic of whatever the, well, why would, why that came up? Was that remember you solved a murder on the show floor the other day? Murder on the show floor. Did I? It's like you have a face to stuff. I'll use the track. Murder on the show floor. That'll be.

Murder on the show. That'll be another great Netflix program. We're working out right now. It's about a series of killings that takes place at an electronic trade show. And everybody's killed in like an inventive way using an electronic like so he gets our headshot off by a drone. TV falls on somebody. Someone gets they go into like a virtual reality thing. They're cooked in the virtual reality heat thing. They're cooked in the virtual reality heat thing.

They're probably actually a good pitch. You better cut this out because we have to put this together. Um, no, anyhow, okay, wait, what were we talking about? What the fuck were we talking about? I mean, see, yes, man. No, all right okay, wait, what were we talking about? What the fuck were we talking about? I mean, CES, man. No, all right. What else is going on in the world? We've been here.

Oh, there's some things going. Grimes put in, what, Grimes is pregnant with Elon Musk's baby apparently, allegedly, according to her many Instagrams. But she did a post, sorry, she did a, she posted a thing on Instagram of her nude upper body with like a baby like superimposed over her stomach. And people are like, oh my God, Grimes is pregnant.

And then we were like, wow, like they didn't poll. It's crazy. Grimes like put up a nude photo and Instagram hasn't pulled it. And so I was like, I think you should, or I guess I was like, I was talking about this photo. It's hopeless photo. Well, I mean, it's nude and by American standards.

I don't know. Oh, sure. You know, that's nudity right there. Okay. Female nipples. People female nipples. People are terrified of of female presenting nipples or whatever. Yeah, they're like, what if someone saw a nipple? Like, we have some of the roots, some of the roots of the American psyche are so fucking bizarre. Like, they're like, you want to. Like, you wanna show an axe go through a guy's face and then show the brains inside after the axe splits it. They're like, no problem. They're like, you wanna show a female nipple?

That's banned, that is censored. Get that out of it. From the human body, that's from the body that half of the all the people on the planet, fucking half, no thank you you sir or ma'am. What do they think that children will find out about Nipple? No, like, so anyhow, so Egger is like, oh, should I write something?

Yeah, like we should cover this. But he was like, it's crazy they haven't pulled it down. We're like, yeah, start working on that. And then like in the midst of working on it, they pulled the post. You know, we were going to write a thing about how like, hey, it's interesting that Instagram hasn't pulled it. Then they pull it. So, you know, we, you know, did a post on it, they pulled the post. You know, we were going to write a thing about how like, hey, it's interesting that Instagram hasn't pulled it. Then they pull it.

So, you know, we, you know, did a post about it, which I, which I, which I grew up, which I love, about how dumb it is, about how dumb it is that we're like so worried about, like, you know what, just be, have a thing in age gate, just say, ask people their age. I mean, I know you can lie. If you're really worried about it,

make them show their idea or whatever, you know, get do something that you take responsibility for like dealing with, you know, it's like have a platform for a human being. Here's the thing though, yeah, they have the ability to they make you use your real name, they fucking collect all this data on you, they have AI systems analyzing the photo to know what's in it. There is no way, functionally, that they have, don't have the necessary pieces in place to do an age gate. And the thing is, I'm a fucking adult man. And I don't need to worry. I should not have to, platforms should not be built around the idea that there are children in the world. Like, that's fine. But there's a lot of adults in the world. Right. And frankly, it's a parents responsibility to be doing this. And if parents aren't able to do it, then Facebook needs to have some basic systems. I mean, and what else are they using all of our

data? Can you, can you, can you show nudity on YouTube? Like, can there be nudity? No. No. I mean, but there could be nudity in a movie that YouTube, you read from YouTube, right? Yes. I see, to me, it's like, that's interesting. So you're telling me, what if I paid? What if I was like, I don't pay $8 a month that I expect to see some tits, okay? Yeah. What if we'd risk you Tumblr that way? What if it Tumblr would be like that?

Well, Tumblr is, no. I mean, like a small pay service. But I get it, no, but I get it. I get the idea you don't want porn. You don't want to end up with a porn platform. That's totally understandable. But also, why not? Well, I just think that it's from a business perspective

from an advertiser perspective. Advertisers don't wanna advertise around porn. Okay, but they advertise in Google and I can pull porn up from Google. Yeah, but it's more abstract. It's not like you go to Google and there's porn on it. It's like, you go and you find it. But like, the point is,

and you can also say, don't advertise against this on Google, you know? The point, but you can also do that on YouTube. But the point is, I understand that the, like, I understand if it's like overtly sexual content, there's probably a line where you go like, look, nudity is in, I think nudity is like neutral. Like, it's like context is everything.

Yeah, because there's a sexualized nudity. Right. It was a sexualized nudity. Like, was, was grimes. I'm more offended as a, as a personal person, a personal person, a person who is an actual person. On a personal level as a person.

I am more offended by some of the stuff said by right wing commentators about minorities and gay people. And I wouldn't want my children to have access to that. But YouTube's not doing any filtering of that violence. They're doing filtering of something that I wouldn't mind my kids seeing, which is like women have breasts. Well, to be clear, again, you could have a stream or even a video of like

intense violence on YouTube. There's nothing, no rules against that. I'm not sure there's ratings on it. I mean, there's like, it's like anybody. But as I work on a very large YouTube show, and we have to do a ton of stuff. Don't brag. But we do a ton of stuff so that the algorithm knows that it's child safe, that there might be light profanity like the word damn. We put in settings saying that there's content that has got paid promotion in there. Like YouTube knows basically and then a ton of people

are verifying it. If we ever lie, we'll be screwed. YouTube will just say bye forever. And so we have to triple that quadruple that and all this brings me to maybe quibi should launch a porn channel. Wow. I'll quibbi, actually, porn Quibi makes the most sense.

Short videos. Short foam, yeah. That you watch on your phone. Made by tons of different famous creators. Yeah, you are, and that work in both orientation. You want to spend a lot of money, yeah, exactly. Should we say all orientations? All orientations.

And when you're turning your phone by doing your various activities while you watch, we've been in a street. We've been cats in Berg. We have fought, we've solved your problem. We solved your problem. Take that billion dollars by PornHub, stick it inside a quibi, done, done, profit.

Okay. I'm gonna go with Instagram thing, though. There's even like, there are just a ton of easy ways to fix this. What their lack is the monetary incentive. Like YouTube does with you, YouTube forces creators to self-police a lot or just cuts you off. Just like just put a not say for work or whatever toggle when people post that they can market for certain audiences filtered filter by that.

And if you don't tag it three times, you get to try and keep it up. And I'm telling you to say that podcasting is the ultimate one of all the new platform streams because it is annoying that we don't get the best analytics and it is annoying that like, you know, you kind of have to deal with multiple storefronts in order to get your product out in front of people.

But it is an open standard and we could do whatever we really wanted to do if we set up a server. Well, yeah, but we can't show female presenting impulse, can we? On the other one. And we can describe them. And we can describe them.

We can describe them. I think you probably, I think if you put it on the out of the market, you probably then get kicked out of shit like the iTunes. Yes, you would, but it could exist on the internet. No one's gonna know the way. Yeah, sure, but anything could exist on the internet. That's not gonna know the way. Sure, but anything could exist on the internet.

That's not a good idea. But once you drop, but you two buy sourdust for nipples. But YouTube has such an outsized presence and Instagram has such an outsized presence. They basically have monopolies on certain kinds of media that it sucks because there's no way for me to do a format like an RSS feed that you can drop into the Apple podcast app. I can't drop an RSS feed for porn into my YouTube stream.

Oh, wait. When I open my content, the words you've just said so I can try to understand when I open my YouTube homepage, it's a list of all the videos that have come out for my favorite creators that. Yeah, it's all it's all Jeffrey star videos. That's all I watch. I love eyeshadow and inflammatory statements.

When I get out, I love Jeffree Star. I could just read a story about him. He's on my mind today. So, well, he's single. Oh, God, is he? Yeah, they broke up, apparently. Wasn't his boyfriend? Like, I'm a heterosexual man.

He's a rich. That was like the whole thing. I don't know, he built the lab. I get it. They were together for five years. I don't know why I'm saying my Jeffrey Star. I have no idea why he, I'm thinking about him today. My thoughts are with him. His mansion is giant. My teeth.

It looks at a $14 million. There's going to have $14 million. So YouTube is great. So when you scroll in YouTube, you all the creators that I follow, that's basically where I'm getting their content. And since they have such an outside's presence, it's not like I'm loading Vimeo regularly.

But so with podcasts, it's not like I'm loading Vimeo regularly. But so with podcasts, it auto downloads. I can scroll and see what's there, the content in the same way. And I also can throw in my own RSS feed from an outside source. It does have to be in the Apple store. Yes.

And so there's like a set of open, there's certain level of open standard. Yeah, but that's forget about that open standard shit, man, you're in that's cloud cuckoo land. Like that's not happening. Apple and Facebook and Twitter, and they're not gonna be like, let's do open standards. I just worry about a world in which Spotify

is doing its own ad placement, like YouTube, on podcasts, which they just announced. Yeah. And then Apple. And then Apple. And then Apple. And using the data that you've told it about yourself, and Apple.

Good. I need to get better at it. That's great. And then podcasting just the great hope of my life. It's going to be podcasting is going to be about, I mean, look, we're already, there's already, frankly, and I say this as a person currently podcasting, there are a lot of podcasts.

And that's great. But that's good. Slow down a little. I hope that there are a million more podcasts because we're going to be about a billion more and then that'll be it. That'll be it. That'll be it. We'll have all the podcasts.

No, I mean, like, I hear what you're saying and I agree with you, but we have to, we're gonna, the only thing at some point, we're gonna have to get to the, the regulation conversation. We have to get to, I mean, what's interesting about it is like recently, I think it was Zuckerberg or Twitter or somebody made, I think it was, it was, it was Facebook talked about the TV regulation. They compared themselves to TV and they're like, and it was like, oh, it was about the political ads. And it's like, yeah, TV's regulated by the government. The government.

It's like the government. No, it's Jenna Jackson, how regulated TV. Yeah, it's like, it's like you're in like the Wild West right now, doing whatever the fuck you want. Nobody's saying like you make all the decisions and you're in like the wild west right now doing whatever the fuck you want nobody's Saying like you make all the decisions and you're some of your decisions or unless the government's gonna make necessarily better They might but they might actually take into account the constituents that you know politicians might take their constituents opinions into account Yeah, which Facebook does not really I just think maybe it can't hurt to have some fresh eyes on such a way. So getting back to the nipples.

Going back to the nipple. So I think the thing is it's like. First off, like I've seen there is occasionally new to the on Instagram that doesn't get taken down. Yeah, close friends story posts. There's stuff on Instagram that is way more sexualized and is not nudity. Yeah, like some of the Instagram influencer people are like doing stuff that is like I would not want my teenage kid looking at, but it is there. Like I mean, even like Kendall Jenner's Instagram is like somewhat inappropriate. If you want to talk about like showing people like a bad view of like

the world, when are we going to about the re-touching thing? And the fact that kids are actively damaged by seeing images of like already beautiful people fully manipulated. So even more, maybe even more beautiful by the filters. No, I mean, but so anyhow, yeah. So like, so yeah, the idea that a person saying basically kind of making like a print,

and now I get it, she's celebrity, but making a pregnancy announcement, having her, oh my God, like regular human body photograph without a piece of clothing on top of it. As if it is inherently, this is the thing that really bugged me and we pointed out in the piece, that something about breasts are inherently sexual. Like I understand there is like a connection to like

the act of sex and breasts, but it's like, and I get it. But like to say that every time you see them, it's instantly sexual is a really fucking retrograde way to think about bodies. It's a really, yeah, just productionist and this weird like, it's religious sort of hangover that there's a sense of, yeah, impropriety about it. Yeah, yeah. You know, you know, I look, and have my little random factoid for you. Here we go. Do you know that you are allowed to be topless in New York?

Oh, yes. Oh, we know. There's this woman who has been in the office. Do we know? Oh, do you know? And she rides the subway topless or she did. And she would just go up and down the age rate. And it was like, hey, what are you?

I'm gonna name Amy. Hi, Amy. And she's like, hello, what I'm reading a new book. She's like, yes, I am. I'm like, great tips. She's like, I know. I thought I was like 30 years of my life. I mean, I mean, yeah. But people don't mind Lodge because it's culturally,

you know, just because it's legal doesn't mean it's culturally accepted. Yeah, I mean, it's becoming, I think it's becoming more essential. I mean, we've got like, topless beaches here that are pretty popular in the summer. Yeah, in Times Square, we'll have like, topless beaches here that are pretty popular in the summer. Yeah, in Times Square, we'll have like, topless girls who are like, taking pictures.

Yeah, I like, like, like, painted, but basically top. I mean, of course, Pride Parade. But still, but still, yeah, Pride Parade, but still like, and like, the mermaid parade in South and County Island, but like, still, it's not like people are just like, wow, it's hot. I'm gonna take my shirt off. Like, that doesn't really happen. Like, people don't get out of work and like,

not like do. Absolutely be. I also can I also say, I also find it quite charming when I see men with their shirts off. I'm gonna be down this street. I'm not like, not like, not like, not like I'm like, oh my god, but like I, like you just, you could wear a shirt.

Yeah, like you don't need to be, I do think, and I'm sorry, maybe I'm like old school, but I do think people've gotten a little bit lacks with what they will wear outdoors on a regular basis. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry, but you're warm. They're like in like fucking sweatpants and like a stained like strip shirt. I'm like, like just have some respect for yourself. All those vests just come down to the like waistline on the side.

Athlete shirt. That's like three pieces. Right. Exactly. It's like three pieces. What are dental floss types? Together. Atleisure. No, atleasures.

Yeah, that's a whole thing. That's a whole other thing. It's like you're wearing like a few. Did you come? Did you come from the gym? Are you going to the gym? You're probably going to buy more. Put on regular clothes.

More athletes. I get it. I got a gift certificate from somebody for outdoor voices, which is the thing I didn't even know existed until somebody got me a gift certificate for it. This was a while ago. And I bought some sweatpants or whatever the fuck they're like joggers or some shit on out because they're like for jogging. For me, jogging to my refrigerator to get a bathroom to get a bathroom to get some ice cream. No, they are incredibly comfortable. I get it.

I get it. But you don't need your fucking balls out when you're walking down the street. Okay. You don't get to always be comfortable. Yeah. No. This is a thing.

You got to put your underwear on when you come to the bank. This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. It's like, I get, I'm glad you're comfortable. But you know what? Maybe sometimes it's not just about comfort. Yeah, I'm not saying the same wrong with it. No, I mean, it's not even that.

It's just like, I just feel like it looks like shitty. Just looks bad. It just looks like you what did you just, you came from like you woke up, you rolled out of bed and you just had to get to the bagel shop like immediately. You couldn't even put on regular pants. Oh, I like saying that. You're wearing like a, you're fucking, you're wearing like a, I like saying that. You're wearing your fucking hug.

You're wearing like, hug slippers. I see this in my neighborhood all the time. Ugg slippers, fucking sweat pants, tank tops. I'm like, I get it. You're in your literal fucking pajamas. But we are in public, man. Anyhow. I will say the one benefit of my new neighborhood

on the actual is everyone's dressed all the time to like outcompete the other mothers? No, it's cool. No, but that's also a thing too. It's like the clothing is, we have fucked up. This kind of goes back to the whole nipple conversation. We have really restrictive dumb ideas

about what people should wear. I'm not saying women should be in dresses, a bench of being suits. I'm just saying I like to see people not in sweatpants, that's my thing. And it's worth lounging on Christmas morning. Do you like to see a little'm just saying, I like to see people not in sweat pants. That's my thing. And that's where lounging on Christmas morning. You like to see a little effort? Yeah, I was just put a little effort in.

But so the nipple thing, all I'm saying is there are ways to manage it. We've talked about it for too long now, probably. But I just think it's a very childish, very unsophisticated. It's like a very, it's like, it's like you've created the biggest platform in the world for sharing photos

of people and things. And, but there's one area. This one area, look. There's one, yeah, one area, look, that's too hot for you. That, which is the most classic thing to be photographed and art, an art made about in the world, which is like the human form. Yeah. But also, by the way, I see butts on Instagram, butts are okay.

Yeah. That's fine. You know what? I find butts much more sexually stimulated than a nipple. And now we've set it. You're headed to your fist. I'm a bot man. I'm a bot man.

I'm just saying. Staying. So like, so you're telling me, I think that's much more sexual. I think that sexual content. You're fine with that. Why? In other events that have happened at CES, I don't really know if it's tech news, but Edgar and I went to the Westworld events. Oh, yeah, which was very fucking weird. Yeah, which I mean, frankly, if it was very, very very weird it's that's a success I totally were that shows I think that that show is a better live event than it is a television show Yeah, I mentioned the piece on input Mac. I know the idea is it it yeah, I mean Westworld would be better as Westworld as a theme park like Westworld seems like a really cool thing to do Yeah, so she's a part. Yeah, I mean what they really should do though is put it on the moon.

Well, we don't know that it is on the moon. Greg, actually, there's no evidence to really cement the idea that one way or the other on the moon. It may be on the moon, a new kind of moon that we're not. Look, I think the ultimate storyline in Westworld is that the whole thing is a simulation being run by aliens. Okay. Thanks, Elon. He's zoomed up.

No, it's gonna zoom out further, and it's gonna be like aliens are running like a larger Westworld that is the entire universe that like half of the population are synthetic. And then it's gonna zoom out above them. Yeah, it's probably about to avoid that. It's gonna be really big aliens. Aliens. Yeah, it's probably going to be really big aliens. Alien, sorry.

No, it's like the end of men, it's like the end of men in black. The first men in black, remember? Yeah. The fucking little necklace, the cat's necklace, and it zooms in. It's like an entire universe inside the cat's necklace. Well, I went to the Spice World dinner and if you haven't had the video, and he had some skewers, if you haven't. If you haven't read the piece, they did a lot of research on us.

We probably via social media, but someone at my table also had research on her and she doesn't have open social media where they then had- So what is that's called stalking? Yeah, they had that like- Well, you sign up for it, I mean, you probably sign over.

Yeah, sign up your bunch of- You're like, you can, you can and will stalk me. Well, so they had these like actors as robot people sort of What you think working for this thing called insight which is what the third season will be about Which is a company that like makes decisions for you and so they would just come up to you and be like How's your night going Ryan and you'd be like oh good and they'd be like oh, I'm so I'm sure you anxious to get back to New York. You've been traveling a lot.

But at least when you were in Dublin, you got to be with John, right? And you're like, what? Who put this couple of you? This is inside to violence as well, right? Yeah, it would be, it would be, even knowing that it's like, I mean,

it's in the piece, but knowing that it's a gag, no matter what, I mean, I find, because obviously people follow me on social and I do talk about, obviously we're here talking about how I'm a butt man on this podcast. But it would be weird if somebody just came out to me and was like, start telling me. Hey Josh, the boss came, butt man. Look at this one. I am getting an ass man license plate for my car. No, but, but, but, but, but it would be unbutt. It would be unsatellite.

Man, it would be unsatellite if somebody came out to me and started like talking casually about things that were personal, even if I put them on social. Yeah, people, which is what was happening. Does it not happen to you already, though? I mean, there is to a degree, yes. But there's also a lot of people, normal people are much more like, they're less, they're like, they're like,

I'm aware of the context of your existence, and I know some of these things about you, and I know you have a daughter. Like a lot of people, like a lot of people follow Laura, like we have some, you know, mutuals or whatever, and they follow Laura, or they've seen pictures that I posted in Zelda, and they're like, like I've met people who are

Basically as strangers to me and they're like oh my god. I'm obsessed with your daughter and that's like That's unsettling. Well, usually they're like people that are like okay. I know you're a known person like I know You're what you're a writer or you're like you do something, you know create every whatever my friend I know who they are Yeah, I know who they are but I have that people who are, but they go, you daughter so cute. And it's like, it is very weird. Yeah. And again, going back to the baby butts, you know, like keep the butts off of off the social. Well, so they also curated our dinner, like our menus. Yeah. It was delicious. They've got everything I like. It was curated based on things that you like. Yes.

So give me an example of a piece of food that you were given. I was given a Yokey and a cheese sauce, which is one of my favorite things. Well, how did you know that? I must have, I thought you had a question error. Gone back and looked, but I must have written it on Twitter or post it. But it wasn't part of their question error.

No. Their question error was like, do you like new experience? How many people how many people were at the event? Like how many were attending? Probably a hundred to a hundred fifty. So they have a team doing research on everybody. On a level of detail. I booked for the event we switched Cheyenne was gonna go and then she couldn't make it so I switched in Like four hours before this event and they had had a full dossier on me. Really?

And they changed their menu. And at the end, we got this cotton candy that like we all got personalized desserts and we also got cotton candy for the table. And we couldn't figure out what the taste was. And then I was like, I think it tastes like grape pezz and someone was like, I tweeted about grape pezz recently. Like this level of detail was like bizarre.

That's weird. And then they picked someone out of the crowd and we don't know if she was an actor or not. I didn't get to vibe that she was, but other people felt like they wouldn't have done this to a regular person. They went through an entire backstory of their life, including like photos and the current state of things

and then give them advice on their current biggest problem. Well, what was their name? You could just Google them. Um, I didn't, I didn't. You know, I delivered it to you. Oh, I didn't, I, I have a photo of it, but I didn't, I haven't time in a time to like dig into this.

What was the current biggest problem? They had a new job opportunity on the table. Not in a real. In a real, that's bullshit. That's a fake. That's what I that's a thought after the fact. But it didn't feel like it was very unsettling in the moment. It was very effective.

And I like the idea of an experience. It's like kind of like the game. Yeah. And this is kind of like the game. You know, if you're seeing the movie the game, Michael Douglas, it's a, you know, he's like, his brother's like, you gotta sign up for this thing. It's like really exciting or whatever. And it's like, you pay them and they put you,

they have, you have an adventure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's a real world adventure. But eventually, yes, eventually goes off the rails and he gets very serious and people get killed. And it's an awesome movie. That's not an adent. Yeah, that's why you can't, you can't mention the girls' name because she's dead now.

No, but I like the idea of it, although it tells you a lot of work, I would love- I think Westworld would have been better served if they had made an experience that tore the country and there was HBO produced this. It's like pop up magazine it's like pop up magazine, but a fake like Western town. Yeah, and frankly, one of those themes, the themes of the show were better driven home and more unsettling and made me think more in that experience

than they do when I watch the television show. Well, it's because the television show is like, not very good. You're like, who's a bot? Like, you're like, oh, they're a bot now. Oh, like is there a who's a bot? Yeah. What's the maze? Like, they're like, oh, they're a bot now? Oh, like, is there a who's a bot? What's the maze? Like, they're doing the maze?

Like, this show is all about, it's like, the show is like very poorly formed. It's a theme park and I can't tell you where anything is in it. Who's the director? That's not a good Christopher Nolan. Christopher Nolan is known for his like, he's like, he meticulously thought out

and planned and executed set pieces. Like think about inception when all of the pieces kind of fit together and all of the levels of the dreams sort of like interact with one another and you're like, my God, like the whole thing, he's just turned the whole thing around and you can see how it works and it's like, it's like, it's like the stuff in the dark night

when it's like, you know, the Joker's whole plan and you see it as unfolds. You're like, holy shit, like this was like pre-sage by this thing earlier and you're like, wow, like these are incredible, well thought out immaculately intensely planned set pieces. Westworld's like that, but like the person was really fun. They're like, they wanted it to be that.

They were drunk and they were really high. They're really high and drunk and they're like, we gotta do it quick. Let's like tomorrow, We're shooting tomorrow. And they're like, yeah, it'll be like inception. Do the inception thing. It's like, it'll be amazing. And then a thing and it's like, yeah, I guess it doesn't have to make sense.

Somebody said there was a great tweet, which we don't know if it was real or not. But somebody did a tweet which I believe is real. It was like, I share a therapist with one of the people who rights, like works on West Road and I was told by my therapist that they said they're biggest fears if anybody's going to catch on that they're that they don't really have a plan. They're kind of making it up. I'm talking about on episode three.

What's the other one you get another season and you clearly would do the Mexican tune in for Out West season three our podcast about Westworld, which we've been doing anyhow, but yeah, so anyhow, so you enjoy the Westworld dinner You have some great pez Kai candy. Did you did you finally event made you think a bit more about your privacy about how much you you share? I bought you a new means privacy. Sorry for the listeners Privacy I get it. Go ahead Go ahead privacy? It's privacy. Yeah, it's privacy.

I get it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Okay, go ahead. It was, it made me realize that the cat's kind of out of the bag and that I, there's not, I have been pretty like good in my life about only sharing the things I kind of want to share

and cleaning up my digital presence now that I've said this. The fan, the fucking Tony's going to go Google and shit about me from high school. But I think I've done a pretty good job of trying to keep myself, this, the fan tip fucking Tony's gonna go Google and say it all about me from high school. But I think I've done a pretty good job of trying to keep myself the things that I want other on the internet and the things that I like think are kind of private. Like my parents' address is on most of the public listings. I've done a pretty good job of like taking that off.

But it made me realize that like when it comes to like my sense of humor, when it comes to my interests, when it comes to the things I quote unquote, wanted to share with the world, the cats out of the back. And my identity can like evolve from here, but there's no like moving to a new school and going by a different name that I can do.

And so it's kind of like, it's interesting because it's like, I made a lot of choices when I was 22 and on Twitter that now like, I decided I was the kind of person that said some various list of naughty words. And now like, this is what a Twitter that now like, I decided I was the kind of person that said some various list of naughty words. And now like, this is what a corporation that I like, like I like HBO and I like their content. And now I know that they know that I say like

dirty words on the internet, you know? So I don't know, I don't think it makes me change my patterns but it does make me realize like the state of things. Do you feel like you couldn't run for government? Yeah, no, I couldn't have run for government before Trump was like, present now I think anybody can. Oh, wow. That's a good point.

And actually, do you think you might run? Yeah, he's running. What would you run for? I get to like a city councilman. Mayor of town, Poltky. Mm-hmm. Oh yeah, I was last night over drinks. I was like, we could just get out of the blast radius

and move to a little town and just set up shop. It'll be like a media town. We'll start like a local blog. We'll have different businesses. We'll all get me on jobs, like Postmaster General. Yeah, pizza delivery. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, like regular small town jobs.

And you want to be made. Oh, I elected myself. Yeah, he was me mayor of what was it called town Polsky? Town Polsky, because it was my idea. That's very good. I take bribes, but only from town Polsky residents. So Dipper's is a heavy contributor to my campaign. I am, look, I think it's a good idea.

I think we get a lot of support. A lot of, we can get some tax breaks, probably, you know, get local businesses going. Oh, we guess we got to have. Make a deal with Google fiber. That's our own tax system, really is what we'd have to do on the wits those pretzels. Yeah, yeah, please. You'll be the only store in our mall.

Absolutely. Yeah, anyhow, John Polsk is going to be amazing. All right. Well, let's say I want to talk about one more thing that was like pretty fun, which I didn't do, but I Andrew Pum Gardens. Oh, God, I forgot. Right.

Oh, last night, right. Oh, last night. Oh god. I forgot right oh last night right oh last night Let me tell you what we did last night. We went out to get drinks and I was like wow Vegas is actually actually rules I looked at a I almost bought a signed hoverboard for back. We will be going on a together We're like let's share it like like we're gonna have a time share On a on a Michael J. Fox signed hoverboard for back to the future and also a poster signed by all of the cast members of Blade Runner. It's a good thing they didn't have the Blade Runner gun because they had apparently

have no idea. She's like, oh, we sold it. I was like, fuck this. But, but no, but that, but we were in the, was a Caesar, Caesar's forum. Yeah. It was just like shops. It's like an endless, with a show. With a, yeah, as a horrible weird Neptune show,

but also has a, it has fake skies, just like in the Venetian has fake skies. Yeah. And yeah, I love it. I loved it. It was great. But then we went to a Twitter party, Oh, we did.

Tweet the night, which he clad with. Yeah, where, where, which was, I suppose it has Snoop Dogg performing at, which we missed. yeah, where, where, which was supposed to have Snoop Dogg performing at, which we missed. He didn't come. He showed up. He did. He showed up on time.

He was shared about time. I know everybody, listen, I'm gonna fuck you. Everybody was like, I was like, the thing is at nine, if you wanna go see him perform, you gotta get there. I'm gonna cry. And everybody was like, and everybody was like,

oh, he's not going on till midnight. I'm like, well, why do you think that? This is a corporate show. They don't do it like that. They're not like, we're gonna warn everybody up and they'll come on a midnight. Yeah, I think he came on at like 9.15 or something. No, no, no, I think it's,

I heard it's my just someone that said he came on a 10.30. Okay, 10.30. They got people at the door. He went 10.30 and then I think he was gone and by like 11, he was out the door. Yeah. With his alliance was like, yeah, we walked in and he was like walking out is what what happened.

But anyhow, we got there late and we went in and we, uh, we would drink some drinks. We had some drinks and we listened to some DJs and we danced a little, we danced. We danced a little too much and some things happened. Some people got injured. There was some real injuries and there was a late late night pizza. Yeah. And every and a good time was had by all. Yeah.

Shade and I ended the night on the couch watching like YouTube videos. And I heard JoJo, there was a lot of JoJo. And then she looked me directly in the eye and was like, I'm so tired. This doesn't make any sense. I'm so tired. I'm so tired. I'm so tired.

Yeah. We came back here. We came back late. Like fucking late. No, no, you guys came back later. But I, we came back. We're like, let's get the fuck out of here. guys came back later, but we came back, we're like, let's get the fuck out of here. And then we got, came in the hotel and we're like,

oh, let's get a couple of beers. Well, you know, and then we got beers and we were hanging out in the suite. Anyhow, I somehow lost you all twice and ended up taking my own cab bag. Yeah, I didn't know what happened. I thought maybe you were dead. Well, thankfully, I mean, I sent a reassuring message

to the effect that I wasn't. I didn't see that. Oh, it literally started, you should read reissuring message to the effect that I wasn't. I didn't see that. I missed that. You should read it. Literally starts with the words not dead. Just, I thought I'd cut straight to the chase. That's good. That's great. Oh, we also saw our favorite advertisement in the world.

Oh, I thought it was a threat. I forgot to mention this. And speaking of drinking, yeah, no. We saw Zach Goldstein, who's with us doing video, what came in to drinks that we went to the Vanderpump rules, like Vanderpump gardens in the sea, it's scissors or whatever, this place is so insane. Which like,

they have pretty good drinks. We were having drinks there, anyhow, but Zach came in, he's like, Josh, I took video of this, I knew, I knew, I don't know what it means But I felt like I thought you wanted to see it and it was a huge sign outside of seizures Believe it. We have a marble. Well, first off. Yeah, outside of the outside of see at the seizure Cesar's palace or whatever this place is called. I don't know what it is. Yeah, they have

They have a huge screen Massive super tall screen that has marble columns on either side of it, but the marble columns are screened also that is like simulating marble on the columns. Which is like a little marble. Next to, but it's like actually in many ways would have been more impressive to get that much marble. Yeah. But anyhow, so they're like low resolution marble columns, the like video marble, which I think is fantastic and I love But on the screen there was an ad plane And it was like the digital ooh is programmatic the digital. Ooh is everywhere the digital ooh is here

now We eventually we eventually we kind of figured it out But I don't know. I feel like I don't want to, I feel like out of context, it's better. Another digital, now we now talk about things as either having or not having digital, digital, who is now a thing that we use to describe.

I don't know what we're describing. I would like to note that there's nothing else on the thing explaining that it's related to a product or a service. It just says the digital, and it's against like fireballs. Yeah. I'm like the most. I can't agree to be clear. I took it off. I mean, I'm so drunk and I did a post about the digital. Let me see if like, I took it off the home page. I was like, I mean, today sober. I was like, um, let me see if, ooh, is if I search for, ooh, if it comes up, we all tweeted. Oh, no, I guess I hit it because I hit it from the homepage

where I guess it hides it from search results. Well, the post is up. You can find it. You can get it. You're like, clapper. And you like, you know, like, you go west world, it's good. Scroll through my Twitter account. Anyhow, anyhow, the, the I did a post on it, which contains no information whatsoever. And no context. It's just the digital is here. The digital is everywhere. It's digital is here. Digital is everywhere. Anyhow, it's a classic sign at CES during, a classic sign in Vegas during CES. It does mean something specific and real, which is less funny than just reading it the way it's. I choose to believe in that. Just reading it how it looks and experiencing it anyhow. I would say that this podcast has been,

is that definitely has digital. Oh, yeah. You know what I was digital. Oh, it's dripping with a, yeah, drip, rage, water scooter. Yes. Oh, right. One other thing. You've got to watch this.

We just did a card story about a water. What does he call it? A water scooter? What is it actually? I think that's what they call it. Yeah. It's an underwater scooter. He put on a fucking wetsuit and went into a tank

with a at CES. This is the most CES thing that I've ever seen anybody do. And what is like flying around like a magical what is like flying around like a magical merman inside of a what looks like just a kind of large fish tank. It doesn't look much better than a normal fish tank. And he's like zooming around with this little water, underwater scooter. And it is like a handheld. It's what notes like the handlebars of a scooter have been taken off the scooter and then someone's put two little,

like propellers on it. And in this instance, a couple of gopro as well. It's amazing, you gotta go and watch this. It's really cool, there's a shot of him like from the perspective of the underwater scooter. We've been putting Ray in a lot of weird ride-ables. Honestly, this is like shit that like, honestly. But this is the kind of thing that you, a few years ago,

like they would have dropped something like this in a James Bond movie. And people would have been like, that's such a cool and people would be like, oh yeah, it took a team of like special effects people, like months to figure out how to do. And now it's like, oh, they just made this. Let me just make this.

Just put notice. And now you can buy it. You're just gonna go scuba diving with your underwater scooter, like no big deal. NBD. Well, the Wally chairs, the other thing that Ray Rose has been riding around here. He loves that segway.

He's like, it's like a moving, he's like a moving, it's a moving throne. He's like a whole chair. It's a moving throne. He's so into it. No, it's good. It's great. I mean, this is shit that's totally like,

end of the empire kind of stuff. This is some late capitalism. I mean, this is shit that's totally like end of the empire kind of stuff. Yeah. This is some late capital. This late late capitalism. It's like that. I can see the sun cresting just on the horizon. It's gone. It's just a reflection. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is what we destroyed the planet for. Yeah.

You're like, now the aliens will be like, what brought what ultimately brought them down to the bleak and they'll like, it'll be like, you know, an AI, you know, an AI at the end of the aliens, or the robots, where the fuck they are, like probing the robots brain to see what humans were like. And it's like, they'll like lift up. There's something easy to lift up in their hand, you know, whatever kind of hand they have. Maybe they'll just lift it up with some kind of telekinesis because they're aliens.

And it'll be one of these water scooters, like a rubber, like a judgment day style rubble. But instead of like human bones, well, they'll be human bones, but also, what's one of these water scooters, like a rubber, like a judgment day style rubber, but instead of human bones, well, there'll be human bones, but also, what's one of these water scooter devices under water? What if one alien would say, ooh, and the other one would say, no, digital.

Yeah, yeah. It's enough like an awesome and interesting thing. If someone in a scooter, the lust of the volcano is interrupted, it's pumpay all over again. Yeah, we're we're in segways. Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, when they when they when the when the dust settles when the nuclear winter is over the digital who will persist. That's it. I think we said it all. We said it all. Craig, thank you for joining us on this podcast. It's been an absolute delight. It's been the first fun podcast I have done in Vegas.

Wow. Okay. I think it's the other qualify. I guess a lot of digital in that statement though, I'll be honest with you. You know, as opposed to digital, who, which is not good. No, no, no. Just pick the, yeah, the who we're talking about spelled OOH, like you spelled who. Like, don't like the way it's spelled in theO-H. Yeah, like O. Like you spelled O. Like O. Like the way it spelled in the motherfuckin dictionary.

O. O-O-H. I think it's important to just a big, you're headwind. It is. It's big to people here. It's a big, it's hard to go to our team dinner. Yeah, we gotta go. Yeah, we're gonna need something.

You guys have been great thanks for listening. Tony, as always, you're the best. No pig hearts for you unless it's inside a live pig that is a pet. And loves you. Yeah. Bye. Bye. It's inside a live pig that is a pet and loves you. Yeah, bye, bye, goodbye. Okay, bye. Okay, bye. Okay, bye.

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Tony, we are sorry. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best that I've just been informed that your family does not have and will never have did you lose.